Zbigniew Brzezinski's book BETWEEN TWO AGES.

[Tony]

This was taken from: Zbigniew Brzezinski's book BETWEEN TWO AGES.
It show what he was aware of in 1970, and how to interrupt spiritual development. Brzezinski is the man behind many top elite players.
It's heavy going, but you can get the feel of it.It is very cleverly written. I may be as thick as two short planks, but he seems to be saying, this is how we do it, without saying, this is how we do it!

See what you think.

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Zbigniew Brzezinski Between Two Ages - Senses Overloaded
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BETWEEN TWO AGES. America's Role in ... Copyright © 1970 by Zbigniew Brzezinski All rights reserved. First published in .... THE AGE OF VOLATILE BELIEF.

BETWEEN TWO AGES
America's Role in the Technetronic Era
Zbigniew Brzezinski


Instead of accepting himself as a spontaneous given, man in the most advanced societies may become more concerned with conscious self­analysis according to external, explicit criteria: What is my IQ? What are my aptitudes, personality traits, capabilities, attractions, and negative features?

The "internal man"— spontaneously accepting his own spontaneity—will more and more be challenged by the "external man"— consciously seeking his self­conscious image; and the transition from one to the other may not be easy. It will also give rise to difficult problems in determining the legitimate scope of social control.

The possibility of extensive chemical mind control, the danger of loss of individuality inherent in extensive transplantation, the feasibility of manipulating the genetic structure will call for the social definition of common criteria of use and restraint.

As the previously cited, writer put it, ". . . while the chemical affects the individual, the person is significant to himself and to society in his social context —at work, at home, at play. The consequences are social consequences. In deciding how to deal with such alterers of the ego and of experience (and consequently alterers of the personality after the experience), and in deciding how to deal with the 'changed' human beings, we will have to face new questions such as 'Who am I?' 'When am I who?" 'Who are they in relation to me?'" 6

Moreover, man will increasingly be living in man­made and rapidly man­ altered environments. By the end of this century approximately two­thirds of the people in the advanced countries will live in cities.†" Urban growth has so far been primarily the by­product of accidental economic convenience, of the magnetic attraction of population centers, and of the flight of many from rural poverty and exploitation.

It has not been deliberately designed to improve the quality of life. The impact of "accidental" cities is already contributing to the depersonalization of individual life as the kinship structure contracts and enduring relations of friendship become more difficult to maintain.

Julian Huxley was perhaps guilty of only slight exaggeration when he warned that "overcrowding in animals leads to distorted neurotic and down­right pathological behaviour. We can be sure that the same is true in principle of people. City life today is definitely leading to mass mental disease, to growing vandalism and possible eruptions of mass violence." ‡ 7

[crosby]

very telling indeed. thanks pie. i'm going to chew on this for a while; then go buy the book and get really pissed off.
regards, corson

[NeverMind]

Thank you. This is bound to be a highly interesting book.

Brzezinski is one of the most brilliantly intelligent men in politics; and he has also done a lot of good, internationally, behind the scenes (so well hidden that the public never knew). But the latter is probably beside the point in this context.

A fascinating mind and, I am sure, a fascinating book.

[Limor Wolf]

As a member of the CFR, Trilateral commision, Bilderberg etc, to what kind of 'good' behind the scenes are you refering to, Nevermind?

[ViralSpiral]

Thanks for the link Pie.
Unquestionably an exceptional and pragmatic mind.
Here is a clip of what he terms:-The co-incidental phenomenon of global/political awakening, creating a worldwide surge in the quest for personal dignity and cultural respect in a diversified world.....

The heading is unfortunate (in context)


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And if you haven't watched the interview in January with Charlie Rose, about his latest book, it can be watched here (http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12103). He also speaks about Iran



gives me the heebies.....

[Tony]

Here's another portion... Their hope is to keep us running round in circles.

In addition, so highly rationalized a society as the American tends to be a dangerously boring society. Because of this, sheer boredom as the source of alienation—that oft­ cited catch­all explanation—should not be underestimated as an important cause of restlessness. In our society "the excitement of the unexpected, the ­invigorating state of mind produced by shifts in pleasure, pain, tranquility and anxiety are largely missing.

Underlying the rewards of being a cog in the wheel can be a sense of boredom and thinness of self." 34 To escape from it into a revolutionary "happening" can be freedom, and endless discussions exalting one's personal refusal to participate in the "automated society," the "gadget economy," and "corrupting affluence" become a form of group therapy.

This mood prompts a search for new sources of feeling and of authority, which the simultaneously
impersonal and permissive existing institutions fail to provide. It creates a responsiveness to highly generalized mobilization against the status quo. Paradoxically, the vaguer and more ambitious the demands, the closer and more rapidly narrowing the gap between the reality and hope.*

[NeverMind]

As a member of the CFR, Trilateral commision, Bilderberg etc, to what kind of 'good' behind the scenes are you refering to, Nevermind?

I actually came back to erase that portion of my message (not because it wasn't true, but because it's beside the point, as I indicated - I should have known better), but since it's already been mentioned....
Pulling strings to prevent some events.
Let's leave it at that. :-)

Things - and people - are hardly ever what they seem at first sight.
But in some cases the hidden truth isn't always bad.
And of course, not only is it possible for people to do genuinely good AND genuinely bad things - it is actually the norm of human behaviour. :-)

[CdnSirian]

Pie'n' eal, viewing this guy's name used to make me feel like I would pass out. I know who he is. With you holding my cyber-hand in cyberspace, maybe I'll be able to read a book or two by him. But, maybe I won't. I get it. Oy! The roles we spirits play. He is he, so we can be us!

[Curt]

There's no doubt about it, he's a fascinating guy and he has a massive amount of raw insight into human nature. I wonder what 'his' purpose is in sharing these things.

Is the information intended for those who have eyes to see--as a fair warning?

Is it just open communication among the elite, presumed to be inaccessible to the vast majority of people? Is it an act of cruelty--or of misguided compassion-- to share with the people you plan to eliminate the plans, or at least the rationale, for doing so?

His thinking has such a dispassionate, super-rational feel to it. You can't help but come away thinking he's brilliant, but that his thought-process is missing some key ingredient common to most of humanity.

On the one hand, he's incredibly wise about human behavior, and on the other hand he seems to lack any real empathy for us. Maybe his is the wisdom of the predator watching and predicting the movement of its prey.

Or maybe these are my biases based on what I've read and have come to believe about him. One of these days I will actually read his books.

Anyway, thanks Pie.

[conk]

Ziggy telegraphed the Middle Eastern wars so accurately in one of his books, so as to seemingly have taken it directly from some organized plan or script.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted By Nevermind: "Things - and people - are hardly ever what they seem at first sight.


originally posted by CurtisW:"Or maybe these are my biases based on what I've read and have come to believe about him."

Very true to both of you, However, Vibrations never lie. To think about someone or to try to rationale analyze ones behaviour is one thing But FEELING someone may possibly be quite another, and I feel that Curtis's analysys is quite percise and not very far from the truth about Mr. Brezezinski, not to imply that his book is not worth of reading, On the opposite, there can be a couple of good reasons why to read what this human/hybrid person has to say..

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I rarely post outside of my threads, but a link to this thread appeared on one of mine. Back in the 1990s, the big Zbig bragged about destroying Afghanistan by baiting the Soviet Union into invading it, as a Cold War ploy:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#brzezinski

I don’t think that it has ever been reproduced in the American media. The French interview used to be posted in France and it looks like it disappeared, but I was able to translate it in about 2000, well before 9/11 (William Blum's Rogue State is where I first saw the quote), and I was able to translate it just about like the English translation is presented on the Internet. Of course, times have changed since the triumphant 1990s, when the USA and capitalism were so cocky. Now, the big Zbig disputes the accuracy of the interview. :)

A close relative worked in those circles:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

That world is a dark, evil one, for sure.

Best,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

Alas, I visited Afghanistan before its 20th C woes. I had never heard of ZB on the day I read that Afghanistan had been invaded by the Soviet Union, and that day I wept.

[Limor Wolf]

Thank you very much Wade,

Makes one wonder what is pumping inside this man's chest .. surely not a heart.
Not a spark of thought or any slight recognition of the suffering and devastation caused by his and his likes with their political playful tactics on the poor Afghan nation, not to mention another quarter of the world by now.

I hate to say that, but sometimes it feels like god makes mistakes.

Nice nickname:) But I lack to see anything 'big' on this guy, the 'Zbig' part can stay.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Back when Obama was first elected to the Senate, before he was even sworn into office, he wrote an article on the need to bomb Iran, in Time magazine, as I recall. That was in late 2004, while the aftermath of the unprovoked invasion of Iraq was going just swimmingly. At that moment, I knew all that I needed to know about Obama. When (OK, Limor, Not-So-Big, but he might tell you differently) Zbig was Obama’s foreign policy advisor when he ran for president, I am not sure if I was horrified or merely disgusted. The sitting American president is a puppet, but people looking for positive change from Obama were clueless, and surrounding himself with people like Zbig sure gave him some imperial “credentials.”

Best,

Wade

[Limor Wolf]

"Tell me who are your friends and I will tell you who you are.."

Obama was groomed from an early age, it appears, and I identify with your disgust, I have only managed to read 3/4 of his self written biography before throwing away the book to a distant shelf.

May I take advantage of your presence here Wade, and ask (If I may) what are your views on the Ron Paul nomination for presidency and how is it possible a man with his understanding and courage has got so far, is it yet another manouver?

Thanks in advance,

~*&^~*&^

Limor

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Limor:

I don’t want to derail this thread about Zbig, but briefly, none of the important solutions are going to come through retail politics, especially American presidential politics. I only look to who the American president is as a kind of barometer, and it hit rock bottom with Bush the Second (but Palin would scrape to a new, lower level, IMO, where we would truly be getting down to the Caligula’s Horse level).

Brian O advised several presidential candidates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O%27Leary#Political_activities

and in his last years he told me what a dead end electoral politics is. Even so, he was still “imprinted” on Washington D.C., and I helped him write a DOE proposal,

http://www.brianoleary.info/Impacts.html

but I wondered what Brian was thinking. I have been invited to the White House, but I never want to see the place. The bottom line is that the human journey’s problems cannot be solved by politicians, especially American politicians. Until the energy problem is solved, the rest is just noise:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=440998&viewfull=1#post440998

Not-So-Big Zbig, for all of his global chessboard games, lives down the food chain a ways from the Global Controllers (AKA Godzilla, The Big Boys).

Best,

Wade

[Tony]

He is still orchestrating!

We need to ask who is the enemy, and the enemies are terrorists.
Zbigniew Brzezinski

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Wade,

Thank you for relating to my question in your response.


"none of the important solutions are going to come through retail politics"

Maybe Brian O'Leary's aim, Being the man that he was - a visionary, together with his other well known qualities and the knoweldge he owned, was to to try and make an impact inside the decision holders arena - meaning politicians, or to try and feel if there is a 'pulse' or any readiness for the free energy knowledge to take root, and of course, to give advice. Could it be that he got to the conclusions eventually, that, as you said- "Electoral politics is a dead end", while you have stayed away from it, sensing the situation is what it is.

Sorry for the simplicity of my words.

What are the ways to introduce and (with hope) to implement FE in our lives then, without creating any real damage? is it possible that maybe the process is combined with our growing awarness and expended consciousness as society? maybe the true beginning of the implementation of FE got to be in our minds and consciousness first, rather than in the lab..?

I do appologise, since it has nothing to do with ZB and his book of revelations :) He is simply doing his part in the chain of this global controling Agenda.

It seems like the only solution for this planet, is raising our awarness ,our vibrations, our consciousness, expanding, finding out who we are and what we are constructed of, while under the camouflage of this container,tending to our environment.
We are energy and we are free to make this (our) energy flow any way and anywhere we like.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm curious how this pool of rat sputum has done any good at all. And Corson... are you sure you want to buy the book? You might want to look into getting it second hand (if that's available) so your money doesn't go to him.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Limor:

Good questions, big subject, and I am going make my response over on this thread, so we stop polluting pie’n’eal’s thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=445881&viewfull=1#post445881

Best,

Wade

[firstlook]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39386-Zbigniew-Brzezinski-Former-National-Security-Advisor&p=411882#post411882

[Flash]

I hope Pîne'al that I am not polluting your thread and if so, please tell me I will remove my post.

Did you know that Brzezenski acutally is an expert in Totalitiarism (facism) having studied it at McGill and Harvard University. Did you know that he wrote quite a lot on totalitiarism?

He know the exact recipe to impose facism on a country. In one of the video posted by Viral Spiral post 5 of this thread, he says that in the old time, it was easier to control 1 million people than klll them, so control was chosen we can infer, but that now it is easier to kill 1 million people than control them. What should we infer from this? Mostly when coming from someone working for the President of USA.

In French wikipedia, a very good description of his thinking and writing about totaliarism (I do not know how to write this word in English).

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarisme

Here is the few paragraphs about it


Mais lorsque les historiens s'emparent du concept, c'est beaucoup plus selon la définition fixée, à l'origine, par le politologue Carl Friedrich, qui a permis au concept de totalitarisme d'acquérir sa the work written by Friedich and his young collaborator from Harvard, Brzezinski is, following Traverso, "the book that polarised most the debate during the fifties and sixties". Their analysis of totalitarism was for a long time the theories that are the most impact. Both authors presented a syndrom of totalitarism that had 5 characteristics: 1: A unique party controlling the state apparatus with a charismatic chief (my note: in US you are getting there with rig elections) 2. A state ideology promising the accomplishment/evolution of humanity 3. A police organisation using terror 4. A central direction of the economy 5. A monopoly of mass communication means (my comment: you are getting there USA) pleine légitimité dans le domaine des sciences sociales. L'ouvrage écrit par Friedrich et son jeune collaborateur de l'université Harvard Zbigniew Brzezinski26 est, selon Enzo Traverso, « le livre qui a le plus polarisé le débat pendant les années cinquante et soixante27 ». Leur analyse du totalitarisme a représenté pendant longtemps le traitement théorique qui a fait le plus autorité. Les deux auteurs présentaient un « syndrome » du totalitarisme comportant cinq caractéristiques fondamentales : (1) un parti unique contrôlant l'appareil d'État et dirigé par un chef charismatique ; (2) une idéologie d'État promettant l'accomplissement de l'humanité ; (3) un appareil policier recourant à la terreur ; (4) une direction centrale de l'économie et ; (5) un monopole des moyens de communication de masse. Dans cette vision, les dictatures totalitaires, en tant que forme nouvelle et extrêmement moderne d'autoritarisme, étaient la forme achevée du despotisme. De plus, les sociétés totalitaires étaient présentées comme fondamentalement semblables entre elles.

We can add as practical approaches the total control of education in order to base it on the ideology and the implementation of a surveillance network of the individual that is omnipresent. A prepoderance given to technologies to have a total control of populations, a large bureaucraty extremely efficient and with little errors. A physical and mental enrollment towards an ideology. Population endoctrination through propaganda leading to brainwashing leading to an submissively agreeing population.
On peut y ajouter comme autres aspects pratiques, la prise en main totale de l'éducation pour la baser sur l'idéologie et la mise en place d'un réseau omniprésent de surveillance de l'individu28. Une prépondérance était accordée au facteur technique : c’est la technologie moderne qui rendait le pouvoir politique capable d’avoir une emprise totale sur les populations. L’État totalitaire consistait en une énorme bureaucratie, laquelle faisait preuve d’une efficacité sans failles. Une des caractéristiques du totalitarisme était qu’il enrégimentait physiquement et mentalement la population. L’idéologie constituait un instrument de gouvernement sans pareil, par l'endoctrinement des populations. La propagande avait l’effet d’un lavage de cerveau, permettant d’obtenir l’assentiment du peuple. Selon Claude Polin, les idéologies totalitaires permettaient « de mettre les esprits même en esclavage, et de tarir toute révolte à sa source vive, en ôtant jusqu’à son intention même29 ».

Les politologues de cette période tiraient des conclusions très pessimistes à propos du futur. Selon eux, il était improbable que la dictature totalitaire, compte tenu de sa dynamique interne, s’effondre d’elle-même ou soit renversée par une révolution. Il y avait aussi d’énormes obstacles à la libéralisation du régime, étant donné la loi arbitraire et l’absence d’initiative démocratique. Les structures du totalitarisme le rendaient incapable d’évoluer, mais pas incapable de se reproduire. Cet État tout-puissant tâchait même d’étendre son emprise sur l’ensemble du monde. Les projets totalitaires de révolution mondiale semblaient seulement pouvoir être contrecarrés par une intervention militaire extérieure, comme cela s’était passé face au nazisme.this above paragraph is not translated not being from Brzezinski

Dans son premier livre traitant du totalitarisme soviétique, BrzezinskiBrzezinski was putting the accent on the total resources mobilisation by the state (wow, US, you got there with Bush and Obama), the elimination of all opposition and the implementation of general terror (9/11 was the start imho, then Airport security then...). Purging the system which is at the heart of totalitarism feeds the system in dynamism and continuous energies. In this work he was foreseeing the constant aggravation of totalitarism. Totalitarism movements are terrible because they want to insitutionalise revolutions spreading and intensifying as the regime get to be more stable and in power. The objective of this revolution is to pulverise all existing social units and to replace the past pluralism with homogenous unanimity, says Brzezinski. mettait l’accent sur la mobilisation totale des ressources par l’État, sur l’anéantissement de toute opposition et sur la terreur générale. La purge, perçue comme le noyau du totalitarisme, « satisfait les besoins du système en dynamisme et en énergie continuels30 ». Dans cet ouvrage, Brzezinski prévoyait la constante aggravation du totalitarisme. Les mouvements totalitaires étaient particulièrement redoutables car « leur dessein est d’institutionnaliser une révolution qui progresse en étendue, et souvent en intensité, à mesure que le régime se stabilise au pouvoir. L’objectif de cette révolution est de pulvériser toutes les unités sociales existantes afin de remplacer l’ancien pluralisme par une unanimité homogène31 ».

La destruction de la société ancienne, par l’application croissante de mesures de coercition, était menée afin de reconstruire cette société et l’homme lui-même en fonction de certaines conceptions « idéales » définies par l’idéologie. « La terreur devient donc une conséquence inévitable, ainsi qu’un instrument, du programme révolutionnaire32. » Dans son analyse du totalitarisme soviétique, Brzezinski accordait un grand poids à l’idéologie révolutionnaire qui, une fois prise en main par un parti unique bureaucratisé, engendrait un impact social total.JDestruction of the old society by constantly applyig coercicion measures in which terror is unavoidable as well as an instrument of the program. He was given lots of weight to revolutionary ideology that, once taken by a unique bureaucratise party, was having a total social impact

Le politologue reconnaît que « le système politique de Khrouchtchev n’est pas le même que celui de Staline, bien que les deux puissent être généralement décrits comme totalitaires33. » Sous Khrouchtchev, la terreur a laissé place à une politique d’endoctrinement qui est devenue la principale caractéristique du système. Mais quand le dynamisme et le zèle révolutionnaires décroissent, « le système est renforcé par des réseaux de contrôle complexe qui imprègnent toute la société et mobilisent ses énergies à travers une pénétration très fine34. this last paragraph not translated


I have the impression that he has been hired to implement totalitarism in USA - even if at the beginning he may have studied it in order to combat it, being originally from USSR.

[Flash]

interesting, I am reading in French another article mentioning that Brzezinski was vehemently combating Bush foreign policies against the Muslim world and mostly the anti-terrors politics and is, in fact, against the new world order, saying that most of the planet is far from ready to be "mondialisé" including the USA and the a new world order would be detrimental to the USA interests in the long run, although he acknowledges that the economy in integrated quite tightly worldwide actually.

Who knows, may be somewhere he is on the right side of the fence, thinking of people, although it does not feel like it.

For French readers:
http://www.futurquantique.org/2010/08/18/leveil-politique-et-le-nouvel-ordre-mondial-la-revolution-technologique-et-lavenir-de-la-liberte/
I love those French reporters, very intellecually acutte, putting every single world of Brzezinski within an historical and political context, and giving an overview that I rarely see in American newspapers, even the best - please America, read foreign newspapers, yours are completely twarted and censured. I am not from France by the way but from Canada - our newspaper look more like the American ones, not much in it.

[Flash]

Wow, family is at the top worldiwde, I just read that Olivier Sarkozy, the half brother of President Sarkozy of France, is actually managing the worldwide financial services of the Carlyle group, which is tightly associated with the Bush familiy as well and the Saudi royal family. We are now electing worlwide family....
Now I did hijack your thread Pine'al, sorry.