Don't give up on Avalon

[Tony]

Don't give up on Avalon!

I have noticed quite a few names disappearing...and I miss their presence.

It's understandable, as the forum does get a bit – how shall I say – 'lightweight' from time to time...you know...! It's only a natural cycle of things. But I tend not to tell people about Avalon any more as there is often a lack of subjects that they can get their logical teeth into.

But you 'heavyweights' and thinkers and questioners are sorely needed to keep logic and clarity at the forefront of investigation. Even though one might not be participating in some threads, it is always interesting to pop in and see how people are thinking.

There are a lot of new people on the forum, which is a wonderful thing. But what could be a slight problem is that some subjects are being resurrected again and again, with much speculation, and some of the older Avalonians may think they've done all this before. But I've found it does help to give a subject another viewing from time to time.

It's good to take a break, but don't go too far away. I regard this site as extremely special. I personally have a problem with predictions and feel-overly-good threads because we do have to be realistic. I think it's of paramount importance not to get stressed over anything, and communicating with others in an intelligent, light-hearted way can sharpen our faculties immensely. I often wonder whether one can become more intelligent, and my reasoning is that yes, you can, if you can learn to drop the mundane (your personal hobby horse) in the mind. If you can do that, you might find there is more in there!

Put it this way...who else are you going to talk to?!

I would suggest that, instead of being confrontational with one another, we should question what that person really means because there is knowledge and information at the back of people's minds, and sometimes it doesn't make itself known clearly. At the risk of sounding weird, sometimes when someone questions you, knowledge can come out from somewhere deeper in your mind – sometimes you wonder where it came from – especially when the other person is being empathetic and asking kindly. Then you feel more open to discuss: if people are adversarial and back others int corners, then there is just reaction - and it gets massively entertaining but doesn't actually go anywhere - the thread goes wild and someone has to go on holiday... lighthearted is the way!

We are all students of life – and we are all teachers. A teacher in as much as we can instruct someone else from an experience we have had or skill we have learned. But a real teacher is a master in their subject, and that is different, because they will look at the whole person. If you went to a master chef to train, they would look at the bigger picture, at your tendencies, and advise you that maybe you should be tidier or that your sense of seasoning needs to be developed, rather than just showing you a skill such as how to scramble an egg. We sometimes get confused with our terminology.

We are all teachers because we all have interests and experiences.
So we don't need to be confrontational.
Just, perhaps, a little more precise and light hearted.

PS This is not mind control, and no aliens have been consulted or harmed in the writing of this piece ;)

[Feritciva]

Great post Pineal. Thanks for that.

There's a thin line between being "lightweigter" and being gullible, also another thin line between being "heavyweighter"/sceptic and being egoistic and negative, sometimes we all seem to lose the balance.

[NeverMind]

To put it bluntly, it is because of people like you, Pie'n'eal (damn those pesky apostrophes!), and a few others, that I haven't left yet.
And if I ever do, for whatever reason, it will be because of people like you, and a few others, that I shall return.
Even if I don't, I don't think I shall ever forget you people.


PS This is not mind control, and no aliens have been consulted or harmed in the writing of this piece

Yeah, you would say that, wouldn't you?

:-)

[Tarka the Duck]

There's a thin line between being "lightweigter" and being gullible, also another thin line between being "heavyweighter"/sceptic and being egoistic and negative, sometimes we all seem to lose the balance.

Yep! Been there! Will no doubt be going back there too...:o
Kathie

[David Trd1]

We are all teachers because we all have interests and experiences.
So we don't need to be confrontational.
Just, perhaps, a little more precise and light hearted.




concurred.

Peace.

[Intranuclear]

I am in awe as all of the previous posts said what I was thinking.

[Tony]

I have a confession to make ....... the first web site I check in the morning is...David Icke's headlines.

[Orion142]

Yes Pie'n'eal I wholeheartedly agree with your comments with regards to Avalon.

It is inevitable that from time to time articles will be repeated and reposted along this journey. But we have to stay true and focussed as to the real aim which is to search for, and find out, the truth regards these important subjects.

and this forum more than adequately fills that requesition.

[toothpick]

Hi Pie,n,eal, another great thread.
Agree with all your points, especially the last line, very funny.

[ViralSpiral]

PS This is not mind control, and no aliens have been consulted or harmed in the writing of this piece ;)


http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/moods/laugh.gif

Panacetic velcro. Thats what you are!

Yes, I too get sad to see great minds depart.
I think there comes a point when one sees that the only truth is your own scrambled eggs.



Peace, Love, more tolerance.
Faith, hope, trust in the same name of God in whose
name we die for, take an innocent life for
well that's not what he means..
and it doesn't matter what Book you read



KP6umfuKqdo


Bless you pie!

[kersley]

Yet another great thread from Tony. Thank you..
The sad thing is, the way members turn against each other. I'm not saying we should all agree with each other, but the manner that it's been done is very destructive.
A little more love, care, and understanding should fix that. I came here to learn, teach, and meet like minded people in pursuit of the truth.

Quiet often when I browse through posts I wonder if some members have been sent here to cause seperation and distruction and if their goal is to turn us against each other. I tend not to subscibe to those members as I don't feel a connection deep within, but I do respect the opinions of others. Would all those members please stand up?

[Debra]

Thank you for this considerate post Pie ´n´eal. As a relative newcomer on here, you get a little tested from some quarters, that is for sure. But I kind of put it down to people being passionate about what they think is where I should be focussing my attention. That´s ok too. Because sometimes, that is a sign for me to re-look, re-consider and go looking further.

I also enjoy the light side, sometimes the wicked humour from time to time too, but ultimately when it is kind.

Thanks all ZEBRA x

[Eric J (Viking)]

Ahhh Mr 'Soul'...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aH3H1auHcA

viking

[music]

Good points. There is, however, a presence here planting thoughts that advance the NWO agenda, either consciously, or unconsciously, and some may see this as a good time to leave. The last that caught my attention had as it's goal the undermining of the family bond à la 1984. Now, pi, I know you don't mean me in your op, but for the record, I haven't been on since statements seeking to normalise child rape and pedophilia went unchallenged here. The taste left in my mouth took a while to fade.

I admire your heart, and your spirit

[Tony]

I'm actually still on a break :eyebrows:, and feel the same as you.
But had to reason, 'they' are continually 'at it', so how can I give up?

Tony

[BlueGem]

With the heer volume of information and thread here, Im not surprised that there have been repeated conversations. I hope they stand to benefit both new and seasoned Avalonians!

Pie'n'eal I agree that we have to stay somewhere in the middle, ie. nothing too lightweight and nothing to controversial/confrontational. Just seems to make the most sense to me anyway!

Peace

[frances]

Yes I agree with all you say. Bill, Kerry and all the people here at Avalon have given me knowledge that would have taken me years to research. I have been able to get this at the press of a button and for the price of my Internet connection. The videos and articles you post about all subjects and the laughs you bring are all good. Many thanks. Frances.

[Daft Ada]

Well, if you include me in your list Tony, I am still here, I come on and read every day. I don't post anywhere near as much as I used to because of all the forums of which I am a member I can rarely post on this forum without someone taking offence or jumping down my throat and attacking me. So it's easier if I read a post I feel the need to comment on just to click the button and move away.

Hey Duckie cluckie I don't know if you meant to post that in a pm to me but you posted it in my profile and it's where I left your reply xx

[Sabrina]

Yet another great thread from Tony. Thank you..
The sad thing is, the way members turn against each other. I'm not saying we should all agree with each other, but the manner that it's been done is very destructive.
A little more love, care, and understanding should fix that. I came here to learn, teach, and meet like minded people in pursuit of the truth.

Quiet often when I browse through posts I wonder if some members have been sent here to cause seperation and distruction and if their goal is to turn us against each other. I tend not to subscibe to those members as I don't feel a connection deep within, but I do respect the opinions of others. Would all those members please stand up?

I agree on this Kersley and no doubt there are some deliberate attempts to cause separation going on (especially as energies change). The whole channeling debate seems such a waste of time when we've got intelligent members who can read or not read what they want. So I wouldn't encourage anyone to walk off into the sunset just because there is some mischief making going on from time to time - as that's what they want! And there are months when I hop on and off very quickly and read a few things and don't post, and other times when I get the weird compulsion to voice my opinion. But I don't think it's a good thing to make it a sort of 'old boys club' where a few favoured members pat each other on the back all the time vs the new ones and ones who don't post so much. And don't mind control my alien pls Pie :).

[Cjay]

No way! I am not giving up on this forum or the widely different individuals who make up this community. I love you all, even if you piss me off sometimes.

[Little Ishta]

Tony, I love your post. And maybe just maybe that one morning in time we'll all be standing hand in hand.

[Deega]

Thanks Tony, great Tread!, and how's true!

I've been following Avalon, Camelot since 2008. In the beginning, I was mostly reading, not participating. I have seen a lot of members choosing to leave, and new members constantly getting in.

I find that this is similar to life on Earth, birthing, dying, with all the emotions that it portends

And yes Ideally, the way we communicate is of outmost importance, respect, decency, honesty are the necessary qualities to help in communication, otherwise, it's non-conducive to reach the wonders of other people. But even so, it wouldn't stand to hold members in. We are in quest, we are in search, we often think that we might find something miraculous in another forum! And usually we do find something different in other forums, yes!, we find different thinking people and it's great!

I've been here for a while, during the Charles thing, I didn't much participated in the discussion, I thought I couldn't associate with this, but I didn't left, I keep reading what I find interesting.

Tony, thanks again, I like your stand on many things.

All the best to you.

Deega

[CD7]

LOL!!!! i guess its all in perspective...there are many more individuals to discuss these off the beaten path subjects here then in PC forum. NOT THAT ANYTHING WRONG OVER THERE! Some may want to bounce over there to add some peeps as the same issues are discussed!!! So to me its been real exciting here as there have been many more insights into different perspectives as well as alot of people who are expressing my exact sentiments, hopes, dreams...

I see a very full glass here...Thankyou :grouphug:

[Vanessa]

As a newbie here, lightweight has it's merits. I became a member to learn more about myself and the whole scheme of things. (How's that for lumping it all together. )

Have to say that you have cost me a great deal of thinking, and I've yet to respond to a particular post because I'm still trying to get my post in as logical fashion as possible. Thank you for that.

This forum is unique and needs as many of it's heavyweights here to keep it so. I need it to have enough for me to further my learning.
But the forum is big enough and varied enough that almost anyone can come and find something of interest. Perhaps even the even the ones who come for kicks can also accidentally learn something too. Everyone is on the path, yet not all are at the same point. We need trailblazers to show us how far we have to go.

[gripreaper]

Avalon, as any forum, ebbs and flows with certain collective energies which are coalescing in the matrix of ideas. Sometimes these ideas get energetic perturbations in them as they are developing and forming, as a natural consequence of change. It's like cleaning out an old closet, you need to dig through those boxes and purge what no longer fits, and try on some new digs to see how you look in them.

This forum is not an entity unto itself, but a compilation of the sum total of the souls who contribute. We make Avalon what we want it to be. For example, recently there has been a deluge of channeled posts, and this community has reacted to this energy. Some say they are harmless and uplifting while others say they are harmful, deceptive and come from the cabal as "feel good, do nothing, everything is handled" psyops. I think both points are valid and deserve respect, although I'm adverse to channeling which comes from the dualistic dimensions. I've seen channeling from the dimensions of pure light, and nobody can take that much refined light energy every day. The content from the pure non dual dimensions is so different, it seems obvious to me, but I still respect those who choose to believe in those channelers who put out six pages of channeling a day.

This too shall pass, just as the whole "Charles" phenomenon did. Tomorrow there will be some new energy to integrate and the forum will take a different path. So no worries, it's all good.

[Vanessa]

Good points. There is, however, a presence here planting thoughts that advance the NWO agenda, either consciously, or unconsciously, and some may see this as a good time to leave. The last that caught my attention had as it's goal the undermining of the family bond à la 1984. Now, pi, I know you don't mean me in your op, but for the record, I haven't been on since statements seeking to normalise child rape and pedophilia went unchallenged here. The taste left in my mouth took a while to fade.

I admire your heart, and your spirit


Glad I wasn't reading the forum during the pedophilia issue was afoot.
I hope that those that might want to promote the NWO agenda either don't stay, or realize they are wrong and begin to change. Certainly the NWO agenda is playing out and not going to work.

[waves]

I know how controversial, separatist and judgemental this suggestion might be judged, but here goes. I think Avalon has gotten greatly polluted with too many people not ready for the depth many others are, having not done enough homework and spending too much time posting and arguing down paths many of us have long since graduated from and want to move on.

I would also like to see far less 4 inch long posts dragging out threads with one liners saying 'good job', 'thanks, I agree'....etc. I request the mods delete the one liners and send them notice that that's what the gratitude button is for. I'm a mod on a local forum, I offer to do it.

Since having to be invited to be here in the first place is already mildly separatist/judgemental, why can't we start univiting under the same premise? There's nothing wrong with a certain group of people who have decided they mostly share similar ideas wanting their own club.

I know it brings up a sticky pile of decisions as to where to draw the line, who's going to do it and would very much ruffle the feathers of those who would perceive it as being unloving and/or not living an implied premise of tolerance. But every garden has weeds and you have the right to pull them. OR, maybe there could be two levels of invitees, and a choice at the start of a thread where the postee can choose to allow all to post or only Level 2 members.

Most importantly, we have serious work to do, and it will be far better served if unmuddied as much as possible.

[lightseeker]

Thanks Pi n eal for this thread. And thanks regarding your comment on David Icke's web site. I decided to check it out, and their is a lot of interesting information there to chew on. In response to your original thread, there may be some who have left this wonderful site or just decided to take a break. The longest brake I have taken was possibly a few hours LOL! Never the less I get your point. It is difficult to discuss many of the subject's brought up on this forum with my family and friends. I am fortunate though that my brother in Vancouver and my eldest son and I are on the same page. We do often discuss just about everything that is brought up on this forum and many others. Sometime however the amount of information and what is happening can become overwhelming. At moments like this I connect with myself through meditation and nature. I am fortunate to have a park behind my home with nature trails going around it . I consider this a blessing. However I must say that living in Ottawa with its parks and wooded areas is wonderful. Just across the Ottawa River in the Province of Quebec are the beautiful Gatineau Hills. I am surounded with beauty everywhere and very thank full for it.

I will continue to come to this forum. I have learned so much from the wisdom of so many.

[Vanessa]

I think Avalon has gotten greatly polluted with too many people not ready for the depth many others are, having not done enough homework and spending too much time posting and arguing down paths many of us have long since graduated from and want to move on.

I request the mods delete the one liners and send them notice that that's what the gratitude button is for. I'm a mod on a local forum, I offer to do it.

Since having to be invited to be here in the first place is already mildly separatist/judgemental, why can't we start univiting under the same premise? There's nothing wrong with a certain group of people who have decided they mostly share similar ideas wanting their own club.

I know it brings up a sticky pile of decisions as to where to draw the line, who's going to do it and would very much ruffle the feathers of those who would perceive it as being unloving and/or not living an implied premise of tolerance. But every garden has weeds and you have the right to pull them. OR, maybe there could be two levels of invitees, and a choice at the start of a thread where the postee can choose to allow all to post or only Level 2 members.


Most importantly, we have serious work to do, and it will be far better served if unmuddied as much as possible.

Two levels, with an invite to the top level makes sense. As a full member I don't feel I have the same level as some of the more mature members have. To me it would be fair. I've noticed that any growth doesn't usually work like taking the stairs, some steps are skipped and some are revisited. Give everyone a chance to skip if they are ready. But let them wait to revisit the missed steps before declaring them master members, white hats or whatever you want to call the top level.

Yes, one liners could be handled with a simple agree or disagree button.

No, why not have a masterclass forum here that we less informed can read, yet if there are questions or input we can just respond privately to the poster?

I agree, we all have serious work to do, we also have the responsibility to help others transition.

[Charlie Pecos]

Hi Tony,

I drop in from time to time and read a bit, but quite frankly I have long since moved past most discussions on Avalon. Whats the point? I started to feel as though I was proselytizing, enunciating my own beliefs too much. I now feel the overwhelming need to be silent and observe. I am observing a planet and a civilization in decline. The experiencers are unwilling or unable to fight it. Many see but many don't. I have come to the realization that it is meant to be.

There is not much any one of us can do, aside from being a positive influence in the lives of those around us. perhaps that will be enough, indeed I hope. But the reality is, it will not be. Look at the patterns, they show us where this is going- there is no denying it. I firmly believe that even if they lead us to destruction and our end, they will also invariably lead us to a new beginning. Perhaps we can yet get it right. We must somehow find a way to learn from our collective mistakes, we must find a place of respect for all living things, not the least of which would be our own children. They are the key. They mirror our mistakes and our failings, and they give us great hope.

It is possible, heaven on earth. But we have a long way to go, and the patterns say we are farther away from it with each passing day. Ironically, we are also closer with each day gone- if that makes any sense. I don't know where this is going, I don't know what's going to happen. I see much darkness, and yet much beauty is intertwined. I see human emotions run amok, I see war and apathy, and I see compassion, kindness, and love- all mixed in together. The Human Condition. There are those who seek to see the big picture, to have a greater understanding. And there are those who are content to play their roles, never wondering if there is more to this and why do we exist?. Such is our world. I seek to reconcile the evil and the righteous, the light and the dark- to obtain the "God Consciousness". The two cannot be segregated, they are each a part of a whole- and I seek to understand that whole, to let go of the programming and preconditioning. It is what I must do.

Avalon has been a huge step in my growth, and I feel others should be allowed to grow here. Please do not attempt to restrict any discourse, all must pass through the stages of learning and learning is a difficult, uncomfortable and necessary experience. It is vital to our evolution. I made many mistakes in my time here, and I offended some people, for that I am truly sorry. I thank all who helped me to grow while I participated here.

Thank you for inspiring me to write today, Tony.

[Galaxy22]

I personally think that the last line is important information, though I doubt if all that many consult aliens, though you never know.

[christian]

I appreciate all the intelligent and deep-thinking and feeling people here having a conversation.

The way I see it, Avalon came up organically and grows this way. Parts come, parts go, rearrange, there is a transformation etc. -- It's only logical, that some people would at some point leave this place. But even some of those, that went, are still here frequently, like Fred S. ;)

Anyways, I trust you all to do the right choice for you personally, what is the most appropriate thing for you to do right now -- and it might not be reading and writing on Avalon. Bill hasn't been seen lately a lot (if I even can judge that, haven't been on much myself), but I'm sure he's doing great and I appreciate all those lightworkers who do their job quietly and unseen.

[Aryslan]

I stopped posting here after some serious nuggetry went down, you know what I'm referring to, pie. ;) I still visit this site every day, but more and more I find less and less. I won't be leaving till the internet goes, but long silent periods are not uncommon.

You've learned, and taught much here, pie..don't lose hope, my friend.

[write4change]

I appreciate this thread because it incapsulates so much of what I think. On a whole I read something everyday. I am always thrilled when I find something really important to me for at least once a week. Often where I find it is highly unexpected. For example Terrance McKenna's last interview in 1968. I have listened to it now at least five or six times. Prior to finding it here, I thought I had seen most of them on you tube but this was an unknown site to me that had preserved it. These things keep me coming back.

The need to for so many to parse so much deters me from writing more. Yet, I am aware that the failure of the many to reach out and connect is precisely what has led us as a planet to this place. I am not sure talking about it now is so effective as actually trying to do something about it. That has been where a lot of my energy goes but that often does not work very well either. So then I have to mentally regroup and come back here for feed back. The one difference is that since I have written less, I know much more about the space that different people approach their issues. Thus, some feedback will be water off a duck's back and some will be critically important to me.

Thank you for this thread of consideration of these type of issues. These very thoughts and expressions begin regeneration and inspire me to replow.

[Mulder]

I personally feel many people leave Avalon because they need "immediate gratification" - the problem is with life is that it's boring most of the time. People seem to expect some amazing disclosure or a new "guru" to talk to them everyday, but it's rare that these things happen. I personally don't want "big things" happening everyday - e.g. WW3 starting, or a collapse happening as it will cause suffering for millions of people.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

If you get frustrated, just take a break and breathe it out. Let it go.

I get frustrated for sure. There are strong opinions on Avalon. Strong reality models. I'm sure we all feel at times that some other person "just doesn't get it". Sometimes we need to focus in on what things we all have in common. We are a community, so something must draw us together and bind us. Cue Sister Sledge. :dance:

[king anthony]

Don't give up on Avalon...

If I may, would it not depend on what can be "offered" and what can be "gained" by all; which would depend on why one enters another's home. For the likeminded will attract those of like mind, thus selecting, rejecting and eventually dominance of a type of thought prevailing in the home. Of what benefit is it for one/some to remain!?

By way of example, if one has (more) knowledge of fact, (more) understanding of fact and is willing to share it, meaning not to discuss "fictions" - of what value is it to the one wishing to share with others (or for others), when what is being offered is rejected!? How would any of "like mind" know if and when one comes who does know, has understanding and is simply willing to share!?


...not mind control, and no aliens have been consulted...

You did not mention if any government agents were involved in the writing of your piece - you gave yourself away (said in jest).

[Tony]

Don't give up on Avalon...

If I may, would it not depend on what can be "offered" and what can be "gained" by all; which would depend on why one enters another's home. For the likeminded will attract those of like mind, thus selecting, rejecting and eventually dominance of a type of thought prevailing in the home. Of what benefit is it for one/some to remain!?

By way of example, if one has (more) knowledge of fact, (more) understanding of fact and is willing to share it, meaning not to discuss "fictions" - of what value is it to the one wishing to share with others (or for others), when what is being offered is rejected!? How would any of "like mind" know if and when one comes who does know, has understanding and is simply willing to share!?


...not mind control, and no aliens have been consulted...

You did not mention if any government agents were involved in the writing of your piece - you gave yourself away (said in jest).

We are all a bunch of aliens, we just arrive in wombs......!

[aranuk]

If you get frustrated, just take a break and breathe it out. Let it go.

I get frustrated for sure. There are strong opinions on Avalon. Strong reality models. I'm sure we all feel at times that some other person "just doesn't get it". Sometimes we need to focus in on what things we all have in common. We are a community, so something must draw us together and bind us. Cue Sister Sledge. :dance:

Hi there Whiskey M

Has anyone ever told you that you are a ringer for Bill Murray?:p

Stan

[YoungSoul]

I have much more to learn, to read and to partake in. There is no way I'm leaving anytime soon.

[onawah]

I think Avalon has become something of a habit for me, and I often feel I'm addicted in a negative way, because there are other things I should be doing which I neglect.
However, it has been a huge learning experience for me, and I don't think I would choose differently, if I had it to do over again.
The main problem is that it entails so many hours in front of my computer, and I've become a "computer potato"!
:embarassed: :ranger: :behindsofa:

Thanks to Charlie Pecos for the thoughtful post, which really made me reflect and brought me closer to grasping my true feelings about my experience over the last couple of years here on Avalon, and to Pie'n'eal for providing the right kind of space for this discussion.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

If you get frustrated, just take a break and breathe it out. Let it go.

I get frustrated for sure. There are strong opinions on Avalon. Strong reality models. I'm sure we all feel at times that some other person "just doesn't get it". Sometimes we need to focus in on what things we all have in common. We are a community, so something must draw us together and bind us. Cue Sister Sledge. :dance:

Hi there Whiskey M

Has anyone ever told you that you are a ringer for Bill Murray?:p

Stan

Santori times, my friend.

[jorr lundstrom]

Im here. Dont give up Pienugget. :hug:

[Cilka]

I have a confession to make ....... the first web site I check in the morning is...David Icke's headlines.

I like David Icke, I have all of his books. I was introduced to his books a decade ago by myself accidentally. Even though not everything is true what he is writing in his books, he still has good lessons to teach us all.

Personally I like this forum. I am not going anywhere, despite having different views on a few issues that have been covered here. At least I can say what is on my mind, where else can I do that in this world?

[WhiteFeather]

Agree Tony, way too many good souls have bailed, hope your post makes an impact on them to stay a while longer, as it has for myself. Wanishi bro.

[Dennis Leahy]

Avalon, as any forum, ebbs and flows with certain collective energies which are coalescing in the matrix of ideas. Sometimes these ideas get energetic perturbations in them as they are developing and forming, as a natural consequence of change. It's like cleaning out an old closet, you need to dig through those boxes and purge what no longer fits, and try on some new digs to see how you look in them.

This forum is not an entity unto itself, but a compilation of the sum total of the souls who contribute. We make Avalon what we want it to be. For example, recently there has been a deluge of channeled posts, and this community has reacted to this energy. Some say they are harmless and uplifting while others say they are harmful, deceptive and come from the cabal as "feel good, do nothing, everything is handled" psyops. I think both points are valid and deserve respect, although I'm adverse to channeling which comes from the dualistic dimensions. I've seen channeling from the dimensions of pure light, and nobody can take that much refined light energy every day. The content from the pure non dual dimensions is so different, it seems obvious to me, but I still respect those who choose to believe in those channelers who put out six pages of channeling a day.

This too shall pass, just as the whole "Charles" phenomenon did. Tomorrow there will be some new energy to integrate and the forum will take a different path. So no worries, it's all good.
I've quoted gripreaper's post, because it displays so much wisdom. Worth a re-read.

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I also would like to add something from another angle:

When I was a boy, I lived in the country and had creeks, rivers, ponds, lakes, forests, meadows, and farm fields as a living classroom and playground. I was never bored; always excited to embark on the latest adventure.

One of the creeks I loved to visit had a "dump", a landfill full of junk and trash in a ravine. As a pre-teen boy, a dump was yet another adventure zone. I don't even remember any bad smells, but there probably were and I simply avoided them as I sorted through someone else's junk, finding what were treasures to a young boy. Not treasures as in collectables to take home, but pieces and parts of that day's adventure. A broken mirror supplied solar signaling devices; old pipes provided sturdy uprights for a teepee or fort; a basin became a temporary holding pen for a turtle or frog. I remember one time being hungry (having escaped the bounds of home after breakfast and not remembering to bring any lunch), and my friend and I hunted for and found an old pan in the dump (and "cleaned" it by scrubbing with wet sand), caught a bunch of crayfish from the stream, lit a fire, and boiled them up for lunch - using the water from the stream by the dump.

I suppose, in a way, I'm lucky to be alive to tell these stories. But in a much bigger way, I am lucky to have lived the adventures. Somehow, I had no negative reaction at all to a place others would see as dangerous, dirty, smelly - but again, the dump was just another adventure zone for me. It was every bit as magical as the patches of old forest in the area near my home, or the fields where I found Indian arrowheads, or the quarries where I spent time fossil hunting.

Avalon is like that. You want mystical? We've got that. You want geopolitical, exopolitical, alternative medicine, UFOlogy, anthropology, free energy, reincarnation, conspiracy? We've got that too. We've got a smorgasbord of topics and defined zones (sub-forums) with multitudes of interesting material to read - and to interact with the authors, if we wish. We have the freedom to bring to Avalon anything within forum guidelines that we want to share here - anything that we think we may have some kindred souls to enjoy or debate the material. And we even have some material - each of us gets to define just how much there is - that is landfill, junk, trash...or maybe it is pieces and parts of an adventure waiting for your imagination. It all depends on your perspective.

Oh, and I suspect that most of the people who "give up on Avalon" still read frequently as "guests" - and a few of them will wander back in when they feel like interacting. So, no need to worry.

We live in serious times. Serious times call for a blend of serious debate and lighthearted conversation. I'm ready for both.

Dennis

[Strat]

Tony, I'll have you know that if I cut weight then I'm a heavy hitting lightweight! And I think I'm quick as a welterweight.

Seriously though, I use Avalon as a tool to educate myself and broaden my perspective. And regarding in-fighting; internet forums are an inadvertent and fascinating experiment in human psychology. It is a reflection of oneself. If folks are arguing, it is because that is who they are 'on the inside.' At least this is what I think, I'm no psychiatrist.

In my opinion this is where energies are involved, though I like to say emotions but I don't want to get hung up on semantics. Once arguments start, they just drag on and on. An internet forum is still new to human psychology, and understanding to manage ones emotions can be difficult.

I just don't do it, if someone takes a jab at me then I simply don't respond to it (slip the jab!). There is no good reason to quote someone with a perceived witty response. It just leads to more arguing.

[EnergyGardener]

pie,

Your heavyweight and lightweight reference explains why many are leaving, or merely taking a break. The illness that prevails here and elsewhere is the same; circular feel-good discussions, but above all else, condemn real solutions. The irony is that those that claim the opposite and portend heavyweight status, while offering kind words of consolation, are not-so-subtle programming, explaining the rules acceptable to the mods, the "heavyweights" and their negative attack dogs. This condescending humus is enjoyed, even worshiped here.

After some strange reactions from Illie, abhorrent treatment of Darla and review of Bill Ryan's post on Viking's "channeled" thread, GFL, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU?~~Greg Giles 02 .03 12, I understand why.

The Water's not that fine, boys.

EnergyGardener

[Cartomancer]

To be honest I am becoming discouraged. I post and add to many threads and no one will discuss or rarely answers or replies to what I post. Its not just me I see this on many threads here.

I accept the fact that people might not be interested or have any comment but if this is happening to everyone then something isn't right. It seems like only a very limited number of posts get any real attention here. There are really only a few subjects that get any play here. I will continue to read and enjoy the posts here but it is hard to post anything because no one is interested in talking about anything. If I'm boring then I accept that (the truth hurts) but it just seems like no one has any motivation to chat about things here very much. I accept that this is my experience and may not reflect what you have seen here.

So I am going to take a little break from Avalon. I will prepare myself for the inevitable flood of emails begging me not to go but I must (insert sarcasm). Love all you guys and will be back even though there are only a few here that I feel I have gotten to know. I think the more recent migration here may be because of another forum. I am not going to join that one either. Everyone have a really great day and I will see you soon!

[Tony]

I fully understand how you feel, all this can wear one down. Taking time to rest and reflect is always useful. After all, this is maybe what Bill is doing. I had a break last week...and it was good! Our problem is, the illuminati and friends (although I can't imagine that they know what friendship is) don't sleep, so we have to be even more vigilant!

As you say we have to sharpen our discussions, and not get so personal. It is still all about freedom of spirit or will or being, whatever we want to call it. We need to make a tremendous effort not to have digs at each others. That just clogs the mind with trivia.

Whoops I'm getting a bit passionate!



Of course when I do get bored, I shave my head....and then find I start shaving other parts....for something to do!

[Tony]

We must not be afraid of putting the another aspect to a subject.
The funnier the better!!!!
An example: Someone put on a thread, "There are no absolutes" I replied, ( and very funny I thought)...." How sure are you, there are no absolutes!"

[Tony]

..and you think life's not exciting!

dAobIpnkCNw

[Mike]

i can't say anything here that Strat and Dennis haven't already said better, but i think it all comes down to simple ebbs and flows. sometimes the forum is roaring with energy and sometimes it's down. if it was always roaring it might be a bit much, and if it was always quiet it wouldn't be enough.

balance.

those that 'retire' usually do so in response to a perceived injustice, and it's usually designed to make some sort of statement. otherwise they'd just sign out and never sign back in, right? my guess is that they regret it almost immediately, but can't return due to all the pageantry involved with their exit!;) my advice: if you're annoyed or frustrated with the forum, just sign out. cool off. come back later. simple.

as Dennis pointed out, many of our visitors are likely former members who wished they hadn't 'retired', and are peeking in with what i'd guess is a touch of regret.

Avalon is the best forum on the net, hands down. not the best alt forum, THE BEST FORUM. it may be down at times, but it'll never be out.

[ceetee9]

Thank you Tony for this thread and to all the Avalonian's for your insights, comments and heart. I often think about leaving Avalon as I really just came here (via Project Camelot) because of the UFO and Advanced (aka Free) Energy Technology discussions--which have all but disappeared lately, but, like onawah, I think I've become a bit addicted now myself. I miss those who have left who provided some great content, ideas and stimulated my thinking and I hope those who remain don't decide to leave as well.

And thank you Dennis for your childhood/Avalon analogy. It not only was well said, but it took me back to my youthful days and put a smile on my face. Thank you for that!

[onawah]

I think Bill Ryan's post, referred to in Energygardener's comments, deserves copying here:

So many people are so desperate for answers to important questions, they become open to being fooled by New Age 'High Priests' like Clif High (and Ben Fulford can now be included, to some degree, and also, at least partially, David Wilcock) -- besides channeled messages by the thousands.

Anything sourced from Mike Quinsey, 'Tolec', Nancy Lieder, Greg Giles, or Georgi Stankov (this list is very far from complete! ) -- can in my opinion be totally disregarded as indicators to truth. And regarding Clif High -- please note that nothing happened yesterday. When will we stop being so gullible?

Any 'White Hat' reports containing references to NESARA -- another hook that catches so many people -- can also be safely deleted. NESARA is certainly now a fiction, whatever its provenance many years ago.

The only definition of 'Ascension' that has any validity is Inelia's: "the expansion of consciousness" -- which is definitely a reality. Any other discussions that describe Ascension as any kind of rapture or magical universal transformation are simply misinforming and misleading.

Some forecasts are accurate. Some messages received from ETs or discarnate entities are valid. Consciousness is expanding. But the nonsense far outweighs the accurate reports, the noise drowning out the real signals almost all the time. I'm not saying that Avalonians are not discerning. I'm just saying stay focused, keep balanced, and remain logical. Belief is no substitute for knowledge.

Greg Giles is another Amerocentric 'channeler' who in my opinion can be safely discounted. But I will read with great interest any channeled messages that provide accurate information about:

Future events (note that such sources need a track record to be credible)
Technical information, such as free energy and non-local communication blueprints, or hyperspace drives
The real workings, plans, structure and modus operandi of the global controllers.


Credible messages containing these details will deserve and demand our attention. I humbly suggest that most else is really a waste of time.

pie,

Your heavyweight and lightweight reference explains why many are leaving, or merely taking a break. The illness that prevails here and elsewhere is the same; circular feel-good discussions, but above all else, condemn real solutions. The irony is that those that claim the opposite and portend heavyweight status, while offering kind words of consolation, are not-so-subtle programming, explaining the rules acceptable to the mods, the "heavyweights" and their negative attack dogs. This condescending humus is enjoyed, even worshiped here.

After some strange reactions from Illie, abhorrent treatment of Darla and review of Bill Ryan's post on Viking's "channeled" thread, GFL, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU?~~Greg Giles 02 .03 12, I understand why.

The Water's not that fine, boys.

EnergyGardener

[etm567]

pie,

Your heavyweight and lightweight reference explains why many are leaving, or merely taking a break. The illness that prevails here and elsewhere is the same; circular feel-good discussions, but above all else, condemn real solutions. The irony is that those that claim the opposite and portend heavyweight status, while offering kind words of consolation, are not-so-subtle programming, explaining the rules acceptable to the mods, the "heavyweights" and their negative attack dogs. This condescending humus is enjoyed, even worshiped here.

After some strange reactions from Illie, abhorrent treatment of Darla and review of Bill Ryan's post on Viking's "channeled" thread, GFL, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU?~~Greg Giles 02 .03 12, I understand why.

The Water's not that fine, boys.

EnergyGardener

Yes, the treatment of Darla was pretty extraordinary, to say the least. It also seemed to make the point that everyone is not equally welcome here to share their opinion. To say otherwise is just silliness. Maybe this happens to all forums, at some point. But I certainly do not feel like I could dare to express some of my opinions here -- far too politically incorrect. And since when is this supposed to be a political forum? Oh, well, sigh....

[Dennis Leahy]

To be honest I am becoming discouraged. I post and add to many threads and no one will discuss or rarely answers or replies to what I post. Its not just me I see this on many threads here.

I accept the fact that people might not be interested or have any comment but if this is happening to everyone then something isn't right. It seems like only a very limited number of posts get any real attention here. There are really only a few subjects that get any play here. I will continue to read and enjoy the posts here but it is hard to post anything because no one is interested in talking about anything. If I'm boring then I accept that (the truth hurts) but it just seems like no one has any motivation to chat about things here very much. I accept that this is my experience and may not reflect what you have seen here.
Allow me to offer the notion that our words (as in, "in the beginning was the word") have a lot of power. They are the second step in the process of creation (the first being the insight/thought/concept.) When we publish anything publicly, we often have no idea who is touched, moved, spurred to investigate further, inspired, has an epiphany...or the other end of the spectrum, irritated, disgusted, even enraged. (And all the gray zones between the extremes)

You take what you have at your present stage of development, and offer it up to those you can see sitting around the campfire with you, and all those you can't see. Trust that you're connecting with some folks.

This forum software has a nice feature, the "Thanks" button, which is a way for those folks who appreciate that you took the time to speak up to offer a bit of recognition. Sort of like someone nodding and making eye contact in a physical, one-on-one conversation.

I also think that is some ways, we are all "buffering" and "processing" an immense amount of information and disinformation, and on some topics - especially where I need to investigate further before having even a chance to offer intelligent feedback - about the best I can do is hit the "Thanks" button.

Cartomancer, in less than 3/4 of a year, over 1500 people have hit the "Thanks" button on your posts. It may not be the conversation you are hoping to spark, but you're not being ignored.

Dennis

[Church]

I've been here since the beginning. I doubt anyone knows me, because back in the 1.0 days there was a forum troll making homophobic comments in a thread and I got into an argument with him and people were agreeing with him, even some mods. Then my posts were getting edited, when all I was doing was pretty funny, like posting a picture of 2 dudes kissing each other, in response to some of the gay bashing. (I'm a married, fully-heterosexual man, by the way). But the picture got removed and I was told to stop posting gay images.

Point of the story is I stopped posting, because I realized I didn't fit in, being one for freedom and equality for all. Yet, I've continued to hang around in the sidelines ever since. I just don't post. Lately though, this place is really sinking deeper. There is so much division here. Everyone starts entire campaigns against people, imaginary or real ones, and then entire sub forums are created to allow for such drama to play out.

There was a time when this place was all about information. That time is sadly over.

Understand, I'm not hating on anyone. I just prefer not to engage in those reindeer games that most active posters here seem to engage in. I have gotten some valuable information from this place, and that's how I'll always remember it.

Does anyone know of another forum these days that is what project Avalon used to be? Would you mind PM ing me? I just want to be able to learn new things and watch a few videos when I log into a forum. This place has become too diluted.

I still love you all though. See you in the singularity.

[Mike]

I've been here since the beginning. I doubt anyone knows me, because back in the 1.0 days there was a forum troll making homophobic comments in a thread and I got into an argument with him and people were agreeing with him, even some mods. Then my posts were getting edited, when all I was doing was pretty funny, like posting a picture of 2 dudes kissing each other, in response to some of the gay bashing. (I'm a married, fully-heterosexual man, by the way). But the picture got removed and I was told to stop posting gay images.

Point of the story is I stopped posting, because I realized I didn't fit in, being one for freedom and equality for all. Yet, I've continued to hang around in the sidelines ever since. I just don't post. Lately though, this place is really sinking deeper. There is so much division here. Everyone starts entire campaigns against people, imaginary or real ones, and then entire sub forums are created to allow for such drama to play out.

There was a time when this place was all about information. That time is sadly over.

Understand, I'm not hating on anyone. I just prefer not to engage in those reindeer games that most active posters here seem to engage in. I have gotten some valuable information from this place, and that's how I'll always remember it.

Does anyone know of another forum these days that is what project Avalon used to be? Would you mind PM ing me? I just want to be able to learn new things and watch a few videos when I log into a forum. This place has become too diluted.

I still love you all though. See you in the singularity.


Church, i think your response to the homophobia was hilarious, though i find it difficult to believe that mods were condoning this type of homophobic behavior you describe. thing is though, we have a completely different set of mods these days, a great group that can't be blamed for stuff that happened a year ago.

as far as videos, Avalon was and still is the spot. If you want new material I'd suggest Camelot. Kerry is still quite prolific with the interviews, and she always seems to have something fresh and current going on over there.

[seko]

I very much like the people that come to avalon and share their knowledge and experiences with us, this place is amazing even with the trolls(bacteria) this community will stay on line for a very very long time.

Happy to be here with my virtual friends.:grouphug:

[Guest]

I fully understand how you feel, all this can wear one down. Taking time to rest and reflect is always useful. After all, this is maybe what Bill is doing. I had a break last week...and it was good! Our problem is, the illuminati and friends (although I can't imagine that they know what friendship is) don't sleep, so we have to be even more vigilant!

As you say we have to sharpen our discussions, and not get so personal. It is still all about freedom of spirit or will or being, whatever we want to call it. We need to make a tremendous effort not to have digs at each others. That just clogs the mind with trivia.

Whoops I'm getting a bit passionate!



Of course when I do get bored, I shave my head....and then find I start shaving other parts....for something to do!


I noticed too that a lot of the threads turn into personality conflicts or expressing points of views in an in-cohesive manner -without discussing the original posts or view points clearly.

I'm not going to give up and you wont see me shaving me head:)

Appreciate your spirit

Love

Nora

We are all related

[sdafnom]

We must not be afraid of putting the another aspect to a subject.
The funnier the better!!!!
An example: Someone put on a thread, "There are no absolutes" I replied, ( and very funny I thought)...." How sure are you, there are no absolutes!"

"There are no absolutes" is an absolute statement itself.
Agree Tony...

Stavros

[Whiskey_Mystic]

As I have said, I get frustrated here. But also... now and then someone posts something that really touches me. And then it is all worth it.

[Dennis-G]

To be honest I am becoming discouraged. I post and add to many threads and no one will discuss or rarely answers or replies to what I post. Its not just me I see this on many threads here.

Yes, that would be discouraging, and it's something I've noticed as well. I've started exactly one thread here. After 100 views with no comments, I deleted it. I received several private messages thanking me for the post, saying it was well written, etc., but yet no one commented. I realize cliques develop in every forum, but it also seems like there's a lot of marginalization here.

While I'm not one of the "heavyweights" pie'n'eal described, it makes me wonder who the next round of heavyweights will be when a good portion of the members obviously feel more comfortable watching the circus rather than joining in. That's why I've stopped commenting . . . for what it's worth.

As the heavyweights drift away for a variety of reasons, and others feel stifled or unaccepted, there is only one direction for the forum to go.

[xbusymom]

I agree with everything that has been said so far... and I want to add this to the mix...,

I thank you (OP) for supporting the diversity here at Avalon. I have visited a few other forums and continue to be amazed at the permissiveness and the variety of information on this great forum... you don't find that often enough out there (a huge hug to Bill Ryan for that) and I do miss everyone here... I wish I could gather everyone up and plunk them down in one spot for our own community.

THANK YOU for missing me... I appreciate being appreciated...
Most days I would much rather deal with my thinking-debating avalon family than with the real people in my small corner of the world.

but in light of that I have reduced my time here on avalon...
I have stopped creating threads because everything I post is stupid until it becomes someone else's brilliant post tomorrow, but that is ok- and I am starting to get used to the fact that I am just supposed to serve as a catalyst in a lot of issues...in both the cyber and real worlds...

I have popped in and out often enough to peek in on the days' “mood”,

I have even been passionate/disgusted enough to get up on my own soap box a time or two...debate is good , and I have reached the balancing point of only reading what I am interested in in the allotted time I have daily

but the main reason I take long breaks from my wonderful Avalon family - is ONLY because I am forced to...

in this economy no one is going to step up and pay all my bills so I can lounge inside Avalonian cyberspace everyday...

[RunningDeer]

So I am going to take a little break from Avalon. I will prepare myself for the inevitable flood of emails begging me not to go but I must (insert sarcasm). Love all you guys and will be back even though there are only a few here that I feel I have gotten to know. I think the more recent migration here may be because of another forum. I am not going to join that one either. Everyone have a really great day and I will see you soon!

Enjoy your break, Cartomancer. And I'll leave the light on for ya! xo

PS I am aware and in full appreciation when you've popped in on my threat.

[RunningDeer]

Cartomancer, in less than 3/4 of a year, over 1500 people have hit the "Thanks" button on your posts. It may not be the conversation you are hoping to spark, but you're not being ignored.

Dennis

That's great concrete evidence, Dennis Leahy & and yeah! for Cartomancer.

[pyrangello]

I always said this is a an Avalon Family here , just like any other family on this planet, differences of ideas, differences of opinions, and a great deal of love here . Yes there are individuals (none specific) who rattle the sabre in life, typically individuals like that don't last long because as friend of mine told me once long ago " Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry enough and you'll be crying alone". I was here for the beginning of avalon , due to the people who I have met personally and thru this forum or on private emails or threads in a general discussion this HUB / Family HUB has continued to open my inner self like taking a pry bar and forcing myself open as I am experiencing light within that has no structure or boundries as my thought process is rethinking the way I have been brought up in a man made way.

There have been so many profound statements and ideas brought forward here that have had me saying to myself in resonation "yes" and I could feel the light switch turn on that I can't even begin to list. This family reunion of ideas has also periodically made me re-evaluate who and what I really am and what really is my purpose here . Yes all of you have provided many answers or keys to my questions but just as in life , the older we get the more we realize we don't know. Some good souls have come and gone. Those who have left have made their impressions longstanding. I believe the reason why Avalon got started still holds it's main core values today in the quest for many to come together like a family does periodically during a reunion , only this family is very special as that we are a group from around the world coming together in one place to share , learn , and yes laugh too. For me , I'm here for the duration even if a glacier moves here in northern michigan I'll keep drilling upward thru the ice as it gets thicker to get my avalon reception. :)

[RunningDeer]

I always said this is a an Avalon Family here, just like any other family on this planet, differences of ideas, differences of opinions, and a great deal of love here.
Lots of thoughts expressed here, pyrangello. I just wanted to say thanks for "putting pen to paper" and sharing your unique sense of humor. And I agree with this:
"..only this family is very special as that we are a group from around the world coming together in one place to share , learn , and yes laugh too..."
Project Avalon, is a family that shares, learns and laughs. We can all use more laughter in our lives, huh?

Peace.

[kcbc2010]

I think that everyone brings a different set of skills and knowledge to PA. However, we only benefit from that if we share what we know w/others.

I come from a political background and I'm still an activist. Since I'm still in that world I try to share what that world is like and the perceptions I see and hear from fellow activists and "people in the know". I'm really not interested so much in debating as sharing information to help people get a clearer picture of what's going on because I don't have all the pieces, but I'm willing to share what I do have.

I know this thread isn't about me personally; however, my impression is that there's a conflict between the different types of people who come here. Some people are looking to make connections. Some come to share information. Some come to learn and research and ask questions. Some just come to complain because nobody seems to be awake. Not everyone has the same goals, so finding a united outcome or set of goals is like trying to "round up a herd of cats!" because we are all independently minded.

[CdnSirian]

I think that everyone brings a different set of skills and knowledge to PA. However, we only benefit from that if we share what we know w/others.

I come from a political background and I'm still an activist. Since I'm still in that world I try to share what that world is like and the perceptions I see and hear from fellow activists and "people in the know". I'm really not interested so much in debating as sharing information to help people get a clearer picture of what's going on because I don't have all the pieces, but I'm willing to share what I do have.

I know this thread isn't about me personally; however, my impression is that there's a conflict between the different types of people who come here. Some people are looking to make connections. Some come to share information. Some come to learn and research and ask questions. Some just come to complain because nobody seems to be awake. Not everyone has the same goals, so finding a united outcome or set of goals is like trying to "round up a herd of cats!" because we are all independently minded.

I see what you're saying. There is also a unity amongst all who come here.

[Wiremu2011]

Project Avalon for me - is one of the best rides on the internet. I dont post that much, but I've learnt a lot from those who reside here. As I said, it's just a ride and I'm going to enjoy it until whatever happens in the so called near future.
Unitl then, much love and peace to you all. You're all beautiful to me - every single one of you. :)

[RunningDeer]

Project Avalon for me - is one of the best rides on the internet. I dont post that much, but I've learnt a lot from those who reside here. As I said, it's just a ride and I'm going to enjoy it until whatever happens in the so called near future.
Unitl then, much love and peace to you all. You're all beautiful to me - every single one of you. :)

I'm sending much love and peace and joy right back to the beautiful Wiremu2011!
And I'm tossing in a hug and a kiss - xo. Poof!
WhiteCrowBlackDeer
Heck why not? Here's a :cool:, too.

[Sidney]

Hey Pie-remember this thread you started??????????? Ironic don't you think? Please, just take a break, and come back.

[Tarka the Duck]

Hey Pie-remember this thread you started??????????? Ironic don't you think? Please, just take a break, and come back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

We were wondering how long it would be before some smarty pants brought this back !!!!!:hug:
Kathie

[EnergyGardener]

Pie,

Thanks for Rocking the Boat.

Sometimes people fall out, but often times people jump out.

You can see there are plenty of outreached hands if and when you want to climb back in...mine included, for what that's worth.

EnergyGardener

[Sidney]

I am Bumping this thread for the obvious reasons. : ) :bump::bump::bump::bump::bump::bump2::bump2:

[Hermite]

I, too, shall miss him. But I've got your You Tube channel bookmarked and hope that the videos continue.

Kindest regards.

[Calz]

Hey Pie-remember this thread you started??????????? Ironic don't you think? Please, just take a break, and come back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

We were wondering how long it would be before some smarty pants brought this back !!!!!:hug:
Kathie


As above ... so below ...

Outside world is healed by looking inside ...

What goes around ... comes around ...

Careful what you wish for ... you just might get it ...


Aw shucks ... see what a gaping void is left without you Tony???


Nobody does it better (I'll spare you by not breaking into song).

Chocolate covered karma ...


Cannot help but feel with your sense of humor one of these will soon be appearing (created by the pie in the sky as it were ...)


14687

[NeverMind]

I've started exactly one thread here. After 100 views with no comments, I deleted it. I received several private messages thanking me for the post, saying it was well written, etc., but yet no one commented. I realize cliques develop in every forum, but it also seems like there's a lot of marginalization here.


You may have jumped the gun, Dennis.
You may be right about cliques developing, although I can't say I've noticed it myself - but then, I am notoriously blind to such things.
However, I often see an interesting thread and do not comment, at least for a few days, and I can assure you it has nothing whatsoever to do with any cliques. I may be too busy to comment; or my mind could be occupied with other concerns; or I simply need some more time to think about it.
I may even never comment on it; but that doesn't mean that I haven't benefitted from the thread. In fact, some of the most influential threads I've ever read, here and elsewhere, were ones that I never replied to.

Am I unique in that?
I doubt it very much.

Think about it. :-)




Hey Pie-remember this thread you started??????????? Ironic don't you think? Please, just take a break, and come back.

We were wondering how long it would be before some smarty pants brought this back !!!!!:hug:
Kathie

That's the first thing that occurred to me, too!
And to others, I am sure.

Now, I don't know about the others, but I DEMAND my hug and kiss, too!
Intention gotta amount to something!



:)

[NeverMind]

Project Avalon for me - is one of the best rides on the internet. I dont post that much, but I've learnt a lot from those who reside here. As I said, it's just a ride and I'm going to enjoy it until whatever happens in the so called near future.
Unitl then, much love and peace to you all. You're all beautiful to me - every single one of you. :)

I'm sending much love and peace and joy right back to the beautiful Wiremu2011!
.

Same here. :)
Absolutely.

[Deega]

Hi Tony,

You’ve developed this Tread, it’s your signature.

You were proud, delighted, to defend Avalon as all members participating are! You own it to yourself to get back on the road to share the interesting knowledge you have gathered through the years. Shake it up Tony, you’re more than the negative shed on you.

A lot of members manifested the lost you going, give them the gift of love, sharing your knowledge.

All the best to you.

Deega

[Tarka the Duck]

Hi Tony,

You’ve developed this Tread, it’s your signature.

You were proud, delighted, to defend Avalon as all members participating are! You own it to yourself to get back on the road to share the interesting knowledge you have gathered through the years. Shake it up Tony, you’re more than the negative shed on you.

A lot of members manifested the lost you going, give them the gift of love, sharing your knowledge.

All the best to you.

Deega

You are so right in this Deega, and you can see, I haven't given up :eyebrows:

[nearing]

Hi Tony,

You’ve developed this Tread, it’s your signature.

You were proud, delighted, to defend Avalon as all members participating are! You own it to yourself to get back on the road to share the interesting knowledge you have gathered through the years. Shake it up Tony, you’re more than the negative shed on you.

A lot of members manifested the lost you going, give them the gift of love, sharing your knowledge.

All the best to you.

Deega

You are so right in this Deega, and you can see, I haven't given up :eyebrows:

Um. So, you haven't left. Why all the drama? It's looking more and more like there is much more to this that meets the eye and that is a disappointment.

[Black Panther]

We give much attention to people leaving the forum,
but why not celebrate people coming back

MargueriteBee:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42669-My-Journey-by-MargueriteBee

Quantum Logic:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42782-I-have-returned-but-with-defined-purpose-and-vision.

And of course many others who just can't live without us :cool:

:welcome: Back!