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DreamsInDigital
5th March 2012, 02:51
There has been a great debate that continues on between me and few friends on how TIME relates in the different Dimensions/Densities. And frankly it's got me confused, so I am hoping someone here can explain to me how in comparison to 3D, time in the higher dimensions like 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th for example relate to how time is perceived here. Like how long is a day in 5D vs a day here in 3D? For example.

Mandala
5th March 2012, 03:19
To be honest, I have never seen a comparison. I believe time is an "Earth construct", used in 3D, possibly lower 4D realms. Not sure, good question.

DreamsInDigital
5th March 2012, 03:37
Well yes, I understand that Liner time is an "earth" thing. But I am trying to understand how "time" moves in some of the higher dimensions/densities compared to here in 3D. I hear all kinds of different things, someone said that like 5D every day here is a month there, others it's like just "3x" faster. Then you go to 6D and it's "4x" faster, etc.

humanalien
5th March 2012, 03:44
If time moves faster in the higher dimensions then it makes sense.
The higher the dimension, the faster time will move, since lifeforms
vibrate at a high rate...

Of course, none of this is provable.

DreamsInDigital
5th March 2012, 03:49
But at what rate? I have a feeling there are some of those here that do know the real rate of speed of which time moves in the higher dimensions/densities. And, also it will be interesting to see what others think about that aspect of Quantum Mechanics and Hyper Dimensional Physics.

ajyana
5th March 2012, 06:24
i read these from one of the Dolores Cannon's book:

QUOTE:

"Time is energy that spins, the pulsation of matter....
it's the actual traveling of matter, physical matter...
it's exists causally
if there is matter, there is time
if there is energy, there is time
if there is consciousness, there is no time, because we are creating our physical worlds from consciousness..."

ajyana
5th March 2012, 06:35
i guess, just a guess:

time is not an "earth" thing, different beings of other dimensions will have totally different perceptions of it.

apokalypse
5th March 2012, 06:49
on earth human usually have appointments like have meetings on X Days X Months X:XX time or see someone in X mins/X Hours, if we in 5D or whatever how do we make meetings with fellow eartlings or other civilization from outer space since there's no time in 5D and other civilization doesn't perceive time like earthlings do.

Kristo
5th March 2012, 07:32
Hello my lovely Sister!
From what I understand (which is, for all of us as you know, subjective) the query in which you seek an answer is a conundrum and in itself subjective, because the answer is Quantum. The answer is simply 'Fractal'... only our perception changes. I know you will 'Get' this ;) It's literally impossible to determine a fraction or ratio of time-change because the answer will always be proportional to one's chosen Vantage Point...
Love you my Soul Sister!!!!!
Kris



But at what rate? I have a feeling there are some of those here that do know the real rate of speed of which time moves in the higher dimensions/densities. And, also it will be interesting to see what others think about that aspect of Quantum Mechanics and Hyper Dimensional Physics.

Free Bird
5th March 2012, 07:44
This might help you:

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The way I understand it, time does not exist as such in the higher dimensions because from the 4th dimension onwards, an individual perceives all that was, is and will ever be simultaneously.

Hope this helps

Peace and Love
-x-

songsfortheotherkind
5th March 2012, 07:44
Hello my lovely Sister!
From what I understand (which is, for all of us as you know, subjective) the query in which you seek an answer is a conundrum and in itself subjective, because the answer is Quantum. The answer is simply 'Fractal'... only our perception changes. I know you will 'Get' this ;) It's literally impossible to determine a fraction or ratio of time-change because the answer will always be proportional to one's chosen Vantage Point...

Oh I do so love this reply... *happydance*

Bo Atkinson
5th March 2012, 10:52
I think the dimensional-density-frequency perceptions have always varied among populations. We accepted what became available and gradually formed stable conclusions and latent-reactions (childhood). Does my observation of 'blue' absolutely match your observation of 'blue'? How can it really be proved? We end up juggling metaphor. Science does not officially recognize metaphor. Academia (corporate control) dumps it on the glee club. Even truth is becoming contraband, (or perverted by shills).

The concept of a holographic-matrix might also suggest the theatre of life which we experience. Ceiling lights out, projection lights start up with audio. Or a digital vid starts for each being born, into a resultant script. So who writes or who wrote the available scripts, the archetypes and all the rest? Just how is all this beamed in through astro-alignments or galactic centroids? Why has it been largely obscured? What would happen if we mastered all of this scripting and theatrics? If we lucid-lived this life instead, freelancing forever?

My reaction is to avoid over reaction. Generally, we could loose interest, inspiration and fun. Sure, we could solve all of our problems too, but what is left? Are matter-energy-space-&-time just gone like that? Never more returned? I expect there is an abundance of galactic-planetary lives to be had. But not unless we build up an appropriate matrix or veil, ( the sleep to manifest the dream). These veils or lives are not necessarily interactive, one to another. Wherein, we could sneak from one theatre to another, then it may indeed be done.

Perhaps that next theatre-matrix utilizes more advanced equipment. It may magically inject other sensations. Fragrance wold be nice,but only if non gmo, eh? But how will one know for sure? That is why some teachings will mention caution, clear headedness and calm. Otherwise we may come to know too much.

DreamsInDigital
5th March 2012, 16:05
i guess, just a guess:

time is not an "earth" thing, different beings of other dimensions will have totally different perceptions of it.
I meant as it is perceived in it's liner form. Out side of earth, Time, Space and Thought are not the separate things they appear to be here.

Great posts guys! All of you! I have found so far this entire conversation delightfully interesting :)

Artemis
5th March 2012, 21:48
this is thirty years ago... ( yes Iam old ) :) our old math professor taught us to calculate how things change in the dimensions... as for example time... first we make the assumption that the time is linear... and you has the 3 dimensions as x, y, and z axl ....if you then put in the time linear as ofcourse a linear function... you can then calculate the change... actually ...it was so interresting to see the time for example turn into a point... all time happens in the same point.... or in another dimension... turn into a flat surface... and you can imagening moving on this surface... but all this was with the assumtion the time is linear... which I do not believe today...today I have the experience of the time as spiral... then those calculations will be diffrent... you have to put the time as a function of a curve... and how that will affect the outcome I dont know...well...thats thirty years ago... and I have happily let my math slowly dissaper... and it will take me a couple of years to get it up to date...

Ba-ba-Ra
5th March 2012, 22:19
I'm sure many besides myself have had this experience. Wake up with alarm (so you know the time it went off) fall back to sleep, have a really long involved dream. Wake up and it's only 10 minutes later. All the things that happened in 10 mins. in the dream state (which I consider a different dimension) would have taken many hours in the awake state. But is dream state considered higher or lower dimension?

Also, I have had several experiences where I've gotten a lot done (I mean a really lot) when I wasn't rushing, thinking the power was off which is why the clock wasn't moving - only to find the power wasn't off. Did I slide into another dimension?

Also had an experience, where in a dream I was told what publisher to send one of my books to in order to get it published. I did what I was told and nothing happened. I was devastated thinking the information I was getting was not accurate. A year plus later I got a contract from that publisher with an apology for taking so long to review it. So does that mean in this dimension things take longer - or does it mean it took my guides that long to put things in place? We've all been experiencing what we call "time speeding up". Actually according to some Mayan Calendar experts, it's actually compacting, meaning more things are happening to us in a shorter period of time, which is making many of us feel time deprived. Perhaps it's doing this to prepare us for what's coming next i.e. moving into another dimension.

I've been experimenting with time lately. In situations where I need more time, I've literally pushed the air in front of me away saying: "More time" and it always seems to work when I remember to do it.. If everything is energy, then time is energy, so in my world it is then malleable if we just understood how to do it and IMO it's with consciousness (mind). I'd be curious to have others try this (if you haven't already) and see if the results are the same - and remembering Quantum physics, what you believe will effect the outcome.

meat suit
5th March 2012, 22:24
Dreams my friend,

these questions have been rattling my grey matter too.....
all I can suggest for now is to look at a 2d enviroment and try to scale it up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG17TsgV_qI

cheers
meat

<8>
5th March 2012, 23:38
Hi..

To answer the question: I have no idea!

But if I have to speculate, I would lean on Jurgen Ziewe and the experience he had so far in his life.
He goes under the name: Multidimensional Man
His home page: http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=multidimensional%20man&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.multidimensionalman.com%2F&ei=J0tVT4-EKof44QStjsmjBA&usg=AFQjCNGkZSDG6pKnIM1KR1kLbisXWh169Q

As far as i know, he never experienced any time difference. But then again I have not gone through all his work yet.
Maybe you can find your answer there, Good luck...

..8..

white wizard
6th March 2012, 00:07
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Here is an interesting video channeled by bashar on a perspective on how we

experience space and time enjoy :thumb:

EnergyGardener
6th March 2012, 04:17
This might help you:

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The way I understand it, time does not exist as such in the higher dimensions because from the 4th dimension onwards, an individual perceives all that was, is and will ever be simultaneously.

Hope this helps

Peace and Love
-x-

I guess it's a variation of the old adage: "You just have to be there."

DreamsInDigital
6th March 2012, 04:27
I did get the answer to my main question, but still I find this conversation interesting. I hope others continue to contribute to it and share their experiences and thoughts.

rgray222
6th March 2012, 18:40
Time is necessary for the human experience, time does not exist for the soul, the importance lies with the journey and the knowledge you gain. You must think of yourself as a soul having a human experience not as a human with a soul!

BlueGem
20th March 2012, 17:40
Lots of great ideas and information in this thread! My understanding of time is related to atoms (ie. how atomic clocks operate). Also, our own perception is quite relevant, and as others here have said, your perception of time often changes.

To look at time physically, we can notice the movements of objects. If a cup is on a table, and it is moved across the surface, then time is equal to the journey of the cup, using its starting spot as a point of reference. So when you look at the starting point and the end point at the same time, then you realise that those two moments exist at the same time. They are not happening at the same time, because that implies start and end points for those two moments, but they are existing simultaneously.

The same is true of all atoms too. The orbitals of electrons can be treated in the same way as the cup. Each electron is rotating and jumping around to different orbitals. Electrons are probably in any given point on that orbital, meaning they have (and will be) anywhere around the nucleus of that atom. So when you look at the electron in the same way as the cup, you can condense each point in time to one point and realise that the atom is existing in a huge number of states.

So, since atoms are our building blocks, I think it would be fair to assume our reality can (and does) exist in an almost infinite amount of states, and all moments of experience exist at the same time.

Whew! I hope I have explained myself clearly enough. :)