Something to show UFO sceptics

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[DreamsInDigital]

Did you include the Press Conference put on by all those Nuclear and Military Officials at The Press Club, or the Canadian Finance Minister I think it was that talked about the US Government Involvement with UFOs since the 1930's or the TONS of Government Files multiple world wide governments have released concerning UFOs/ET/IAC's etc? Or the COMETA report? Another official source of information. We've already had "soft disclosure".

[Nice1]

WOW nice work on the site :)

I've often thought about doing a site like that - now you've done it for me :)

I'm still looking it over now but Stanton Friedmans work on trace evidence cases and Stephen Michilaks close encounter, have you got those on there?

I'm going through it all now - great work :)

[jc71]

Hi,

Great site!

Have you considered adding Stephen Hawking as someone who acknowledges the existence of alien life?

Just a thought and apologies if he is already in there - am looking through the site more now.

Great work.

Regards,

JC

Links:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1268712/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-living-massive-ships-invade-Earth.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

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[kersley]

Well done..
Did you include the One? That's right, The One. right here a member of Avalon. There isn't anything he don't know about UFO's
You should contact him.. I'm sure you'll find him very knowledgeable...

[rgray222]

Here is a little food for thought, something that I recently put together!
Theory on UFOs, where do they come from
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2012/03/ufo-theory-sightings-research-reports.html

Here are some famous/older/credible cases, I think you covered most of them but there are a few that you may not have mentioned.
Some Credible Case Files
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/p/most-credible-ufo-cases.html
Some famous or landmark cases
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/p/landmark-ufo-cases.html
Some Pre 1900 Cases
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/p/ancient-aliens-ufo-cases-pre-1900-early.html
Hope you find this helpful

[meat suit]

Awesome site !!!
well done!

[DreamsInDigital]

Cometa report is in there, Nuclear press conference is as well. Former Canadian Defence Minister is in there, but not Finance Minister - will have to look that up. Or do you mean Defence Minister?
I meant the Defense Minister. I was half right, my memory just wasn't coming up with Defense. But, definitely check out the British Ministry Of Defense Site, there are many files there on UFO's from their files. Also locally the FBI and NSA have files on their sites concerning their investigations.

[Prodigal Son]

What else does one need to see after this?

CNN - NPC - UFOs disable Nuclear Weapons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuqENCAcwsE

[Fundy Gemini]

Very nicely done & a great service. .
Thank You :-)

[ulli]

One good piece of evidence is the areal photo taken by a map-making plane of the Costa Rican government in 1971.
The photograph shows a UFO entering Lake Cote, a lake so deep that until this day it's bottom has not been measured. It is conical and may well have an underground connection to nearby Volcano Arenal.

The plane flew at a steady 10,000 ft altitude and the camera installed on the bottom of the plane was automatic,
hence no one saw the UFO in the picture until later.
Many sites deal with this.
http://wiki.razing.net/ufologie.net/htm/decote.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Cote_ufo.jpg

[aranuk]

Well done Paa. What a terrific website you have there. A great idea to add to it all the time as things turn up.


Stan

[The One]

Check this site out some awesome footage http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=best+ufo+military&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hyper.net%2Fufo%2Fvideo-documentaries.html&ei=1X5WT5nTIs3J8gOqhMXTCA&usg=AFQjCNEviwGecePjpzJcsM_sGVhEaq1tdQ

(Project Blue Book Special Report #14).

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=project%20blue%20book%20special%20report%20no.%2014&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CDwQFjAD&url=http://bluebookarchive.org/browse.aspx&ei=mvkNT7zGIYebOrLHqLgH&usg=AFQjCNGBiUeosHo9gUGGiie97tsniZ9Ftg

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=astronauts+audio+recordings+of+ufos&source=web&cd=15&ved=0CEwQFjAEOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fken-welch.com%2FReports%2FAliens.html&ei=A35WT-GVBIKs8QP649DDCA&usg=AFQjCNHvpwWdhdoVypyxR5fkv0KjCSmHXQ

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ufowikil&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnidentified_flying_object&ei=uIFWT7bBG4mP8gP_jt3oCA&usg=AFQjCNGMRUTowGxfdCvPvWP0hVEUIkQ5KQ

[boja]

In the UK, GARY HESELTINE (A serving Police Officer) has an online database called PRUFOS.

This is an ongoing project so far containing over 900 cases documented as evidence by Police Officers (often with multiple witnesses), which stretches back as far as 1901.

Gary, whose database is also recognised by the police authority itself, currently has become a considerable source of knowledge on UFO research.

We must realise that evidence from serving Police Officers, is often what gets people imprisoned for life or sometimes executed !!!

Short of them landing on the white house lawn, WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO THEY (sceptics) NEED ??

[jackovesk]

For those of you who are interested in the Complete Official Story of Dr.Jonathan Reed's Alien Encounter you can watch it here...

ODISEALINK THE MOVIE DOCUMENTARY: THE ALIEN ENCOUNTER OF DR JONATHAN REED

http://www.odisealink.com/images/cover.jpg


"Throughout this emotionally devastating and physically paralyzing ordeal, Jonathan takes us with him, "through the looking-glass", to experience the very moment of his startling Alien Encounter and all the terror and disruption to his life that has since ensued. As if in a continuing nightmare, his serene life has forever been fractured into a heterogeneous enigma."
PART 1 of 14 ODISEALINK THE MOVIE DOCUMENTARY MAY 9TH 2009:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Fl-MsNkXY&feature=related

Here's a picture of the Bracelet...Which can be found on his Official Website if you want to do further research...

http://www.odisealink.com/

http://www.odisealink.com/images/_artifact01.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19840-Complete-Official-Story-of-Dr.Jonathan-Reed-s-Alien-Encounter-WATCH-it-here...&highlight=jonathan+reed

[Paladin14]

Awesome website thank you!
I haven't looked much into this case to determine if its real or not but the footage is pretty awesome...
UKQBqLc2g2A
Antonio Urzi, and you can find some more as interesting cases covered by Jaime Maussan

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[Debra]

Thanks Paa! I was just considering developing a site similar to address the society wide perception of ufo/ET presence.

You have done a fine job with creating those foundations - we need a quick reference area that is to easy to engage with - to give us relevant, up to date information.
:cool:

[The One]

Lots of good stuff for me to consider including, thanks a lot guys!

@the things showing aliens. I've thought about including one additional section below sightings, but at the same time I am afraid people who are new to the whole subject will reject it all if they see it. Thoughts, should I include it or not?

I guess if so, it would be some of these:
1. http://i.imgur.com/q7R1g.jpg (warning, some disturbing)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uqP46zdsA
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXST4IWXe0k
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ARFOhF4NU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDNUmtVdAY
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJwRMQEU6o

Dr Reed case is seen as very controversial, many claim fake, even though my personal gut feeling seeing the being is that it was real, when I first saw it (eyes, blinking).

Include aliens or not?

Hey my website http://jandeane81.com/forum.php is new and mostly about the UFO phenomena.We could send each other the latest info :wizard:

[jackovesk]

Lots of good stuff for me to consider including, thanks a lot guys!

@the things showing aliens. I've thought about including one additional section below sightings, but at the same time I am afraid people who are new to the whole subject will reject it all if they see it. Thoughts, should I include it or not?

I guess if so, it would be some of these:
1. http://i.imgur.com/q7R1g.jpg (warning, some disturbing)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uqP46zdsA
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXST4IWXe0k
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ARFOhF4NU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDNUmtVdAY
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJwRMQEU6o

Dr Reed case is seen as very controversial, many claim fake, even though my personal gut feeling seeing the being is that it was real, when I first saw it (eyes, blinking).

Include aliens or not?

IMHO - Yes...:yes4:

Re: The Dr. Reed case, I believe it 100%

Why..?

The evidence is there for all to see


No man who loves his dog would make up a story like that if it were'nt true
Why & How could anyone go to such lengths to make up such a story, when witnesses have died because of it, he has had to leave the country, he lost his identity and job because of it not to mention his dog, basically he's lost everything..! For what..? To sell a Video..? Don't think so...:nono:
You've seen the footage
You've seen how the PTW tried to erase his identity and even murdered his best friend and tried to silence all the other witness
You've seen how quickly the CoIntelPro/Debunkers were so quick to criticise both him and his story
You've seen how well known UFO Reporter and investigator Jamie Maussan supports his story 100%

There is just way too much evidence to call Dr. Reed's case a Hoax...

Even (Hollywood) could'nt make up a story like that...:nono:

Seeing is believing and its all there right before your very eye's...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[Debra]

I spent hours last night watching as much as I could on Dr Jonathan Reed, including the video series that you posted.
Jacko, I am so confused.

My gut says this man and his verbal testimony is for real (although the link artifact/teleportation video did him no favours, it was very cheesy in production values). But other evidence!! Damn, this is pretty significant. On what grounds do researchers and other key players in the disclosure movement have on this man to call him a fraud? Why has the alternative media community largely ignored this man as well? I cannot find information or interviews by Camelot, OffPlanet or on Red Ice Radio. Yet Jamie Maussan, Art Bell, Wendelle Stevens .. backed him up. I cannot believe that I have missed this. What is going on?



Lots of good stuff for me to consider including, thanks a lot guys!

@the things showing aliens. I've thought about including one additional section below sightings, but at the same time I am afraid people who are new to the whole subject will reject it all if they see it. Thoughts, should I include it or not?

I guess if so, it would be some of these:
1. http://i.imgur.com/q7R1g.jpg (warning, some disturbing)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uqP46zdsA
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXST4IWXe0k
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ARFOhF4NU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDNUmtVdAY
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJwRMQEU6o

Dr Reed case is seen as very controversial, many claim fake, even though my personal gut feeling seeing the being is that it was real, when I first saw it (eyes, blinking).

Include aliens or not?

IMHO - Yes...:yes4:

Re: The Dr. Reed case, I believe it 100%

Why..?

The evidence is there for all to see


No man who loves his dog would make up a story like that if it were'nt true
Why & How could anyone go to such lengths to make up such a story, when witnesses have died because of it, he has had to leave the country, he lost his identity and job because of it not to mention his dog, basically he's lost everything..! For what..? To sell a Video..? Don't think so...:nono:
You've seen the footage
You've seen how the PTW tried to erase his identity and even murdered his best friend and tried to silence all the other witness
You've seen how quickly the CoIntelPro/Debunkers were so quick to criticise both him and his story
You've seen how well known UFO Reporter and investigator Jamie Maussan supports his story 100%

There is just way too much evidence to call Dr. Reed's case a Hoax...

Even (Hollywood) could'nt make up a story like that...:nono:

Seeing is believing and its all there right before your very eye's...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[Vielle]

Congratulations and thank you!

You have done a significant work on the site. This kind of highly evidence-based send the right message about how to approach the phenomenon.

[jackovesk]

I spent hours last night watching as much as I could on Dr Jonathan Reed, including the video series that you posted.
Jacko, I am so confused.

My gut says this man and his verbal testimony is for real (although the link artifact/teleportation video did him no favours, it was very cheesy in production values). But other evidence!! Damn, this is pretty significant. On what grounds do researchers and other key players in the disclosure movement have on this man to call him a fraud? Why has the alternative media community largely ignored this man as well? I cannot find information or interviews by Camelot, OffPlanet or on Red Ice Radio. Yet Jamie Maussan, Art Bell, Wendelle Stevens .. backed him up. I cannot believe that I have missed this. What is going on?



Lots of good stuff for me to consider including, thanks a lot guys!

@the things showing aliens. I've thought about including one additional section below sightings, but at the same time I am afraid people who are new to the whole subject will reject it all if they see it. Thoughts, should I include it or not?

I guess if so, it would be some of these:
1. http://i.imgur.com/q7R1g.jpg (warning, some disturbing)
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uqP46zdsA
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXST4IWXe0k
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ARFOhF4NU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDNUmtVdAY
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJwRMQEU6o

Dr Reed case is seen as very controversial, many claim fake, even though my personal gut feeling seeing the being is that it was real, when I first saw it (eyes, blinking).

Include aliens or not?

IMHO - Yes...:yes4:

Re: The Dr. Reed case, I believe it 100%

Why..?

The evidence is there for all to see


No man who loves his dog would make up a story like that if it were'nt true
Why & How could anyone go to such lengths to make up such a story, when witnesses have died because of it, he has had to leave the country, he lost his identity and job because of it not to mention his dog, basically he's lost everything..! For what..? To sell a Video..? Don't think so...:nono:
You've seen the footage
You've seen how the PTW tried to erase his identity and even murdered his best friend and tried to silence all the other witness
You've seen how quickly the CoIntelPro/Debunkers were so quick to criticise both him and his story
You've seen how well known UFO Reporter and investigator Jamie Maussan supports his story 100%

There is just way too much evidence to call Dr. Reed's case a Hoax...

Even (Hollywood) could'nt make up a story like that...:nono:

Seeing is believing and its all there right before your very eye's...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack



although the link artifact/teleportation video did him no favours

I Whole Heartedly Agree...:yes4:

...But he was entrusted with this Alien Artifact and was told he was not allowed to film it...

The Video did'nt come from Dr. Reed obviously...

Every single clandestine Agency wants that Alien Artifact, so its unfair to judge the entire 'Evidence' on it...:noidea:

Rgs,

Jack

PS - Just forget about the Dr. Reed case for a second...

Do you know what really (PISSES ME OFF) more in life..?

Is the 'Fact' that most people can't (DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND) and 'Stand Up' for they believe in, regardless of the consequences...:yes4:

PSS - I'm just about done here, too many (FENCE SITTERS) that like to have a bet each way...:yes4:

[Debra]

I hear you and like your passion Jackovesk. In this forum of understanding and words, you are where you are, and for reasons known only to others, they are where they are. It has taken you time to reach conclusions, and thus it is the same for others.

However, my question still remains, why have a significant section of the ufo research/reporting community ignored this man? WHY THIS IS SIGNIFICANT ON THIS THREAD, IS BECAUSE IT LEADS TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOURCES WE FIND.

In the Reed case, I have come across websites that unearth quite a bit of dirt on him: http://www.ufowatchdog.com/jonathan_reed.htm and also this one: http://www.charpy.com/Odyssey/Default.htm BUT can we trust this information as well? Is it disinfo? Can someone weigh in on this? This maybe a naive statement to make, but if the man was a true con man, would not more sophisticated organisations, including the police, have reported or warned about his activities?


PS - Just forget about the Dr. Reed case for a second...

Do you know what really (PISSES ME OFF) more in life..?

Is the 'Fact' that most people can't (DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND) and 'Stand Up' for they believe in, regardless of the consequences...:yes4:

PSS - I'm just about done here, too many (FENCE SITTERS) that like to have a bet each way...:yes4:

[jackovesk]

I hear you and like your passion Jackovesk. In this forum of understanding and words, you are where you are, and for reasons known only to others, they are where they are. It has taken you time to reach conclusions, and thus it is the same for others.

However, my question still remains, why have a significant section of the ufo research/reporting community ignored this man? WHY THIS IS SIGNIFICANT ON THIS THREAD, IS BECAUSE IT LEADS TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOURCES WE FIND.

In the Reed case, I have come across websites that unearth quite a bit of dirt on him: http://www.ufowatchdog.com/jonathan_reed.htm and also this one: http://www.charpy.com/Odyssey/Default.htm BUT can we trust this information as well? Is it disinfo? Can someone weigh in on this? This maybe a naive statement to make, but if the man was a true con man, would not more sophisticated organisations, including the police, have reported or warned about his activities?


PS - Just forget about the Dr. Reed case for a second...

Do you know what really (PISSES ME OFF) more in life..?

Is the 'Fact' that most people can't (DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND) and 'Stand Up' for they believe in, regardless of the consequences...:yes4:

PSS - I'm just about done here, too many (FENCE SITTERS) that like to have a bet each way...:yes4:

Don't worry Zebra,

I have read them all and then some...:yes4:

Right or Wrong in (LIFE) you've gotta start listening to your own (GUT FEELING), I don't care whether you believe in Dr. Reed's story or not...:noidea:

I DO...No matter what any debunker says...:yes4:

Whether you believe or don't believe, is (Totally) up to you...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[Debra]

I know where I stand Jack :neo:



Whether you believe or don't believe, is (Totally) up to you...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[boja]

Another one to add to the list :-

RAUNI-LEENA LUUKANEN-KILDE, a lady who is FINLAND's former CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER.

Her unedited interviews about UFOs and ET life can be found on Richard D. Hall's website, richplanet.net

The list of well respected people's testimonies, is seemingly endless.
Anybody could almost be forgiven for believing them ! (Joke !)

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[giovonni]

Greetings Paa,

Very well done and thanks for sharing :yo: