Invisible Children: KONY 2012 - a plea to stop the demented Joseph Kony in 2012

[Spacyman]

http://vimeo.com/invisible/kony2012

Hi,

I wanted to share with you this new short film (24min) from the good people at Invisible children.

I think this is something huge for the world right now. It could change not only the lives of thousands of abducted children but also change the way the world thinks. It could show that, we, the people, are the real power that be, when we dare speak the truth with one united and powerful voice.

Enjoy.

[Corncrake]

Make Kony Famous - important new video to rally us all to the aid of the invisible children. This video tells the story of Jacob and the abduction of children in Uganda into the infamous LRA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

[RunningDeer]

Hi Spacyman, I click on the link and a blank page comes up with this: NoSuchBucketThe specified bucket does not exist​kony2012F757703B78112948MnN63ebpbXI0YzSjgIiemLEdPaGmXNbaVs6Mlr6ehFeqTlCerzxtFM3Bkju43kCU

I hope you can fix because it sounds interesting.

[etheric underground]

this has been posted as kony 2012 today

[Spacyman]

Hi Spacyman, I click on the link and a blank page comes up with this: NoSuchBucketThe specified bucket does not exist​kony2012F757703B78112948MnN63ebpbXI0YzSjgIiemLEdPaGmXNbaVs6Mlr6ehFeqTlCerzxtFM3Bkju43kCU

I hope you can fix because it sounds interesting.


Sorry I fixed the link, it should work now :)

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this has been posted as kony 2012 today

Oh I didn't know... Thanks for the info. I just thought it was worth sharing. In fact IMO it's even worth a duplicate post :P

[RunningDeer]

Hi Spacyman, I click on the link and a blank page comes up with this: NoSuchBucketThe specified bucket does not exist​kony2012F757703B78112948MnN63ebpbXI0YzSjgIiemLEdPaGmXNbaVs6Mlr6ehFeqTlCerzxtFM3Bkju43kCU

I hope you can fix because it sounds interesting.



Sorry I fixed the link, it should work now :)

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this has been posted as kony 2012 today

Oh I didn't know... Thanks for the info. I just thought it was worth sharing. In fact IMO it's even worth a duplicate post :P

I tried twice. Maybe because I'm using a Mac? It shouldn't effect it. I refreshed my browser, too. This is the message that comes up: AccessDeniedAccess Denied5C4CF1B2230CBEEDT0Zi9+u3d9Xi3w7i/4m0gkSLrUTb9g/pP4lNpfDVV6Qtcg+tYkUt9rOGO5l0q3py

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Hi Spacyman, I click on the link and a blank page comes up with this: NoSuchBucketThe specified bucket does not exist​kony2012F757703B78112948MnN63ebpbXI0YzSjgIiemLEdPaGmXNbaVs6Mlr6ehFeqTlCerzxtFM3Bkju43kCU

I hope you can fix because it sounds interesting.




Sorry I fixed the link, it should work now :)

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this has been posted as kony 2012 today

Oh I didn't know... Thanks for the info. I just thought it was worth sharing. In fact IMO it's even worth a duplicate post :P

I tried twice. Maybe because I'm using a Mac? It shouldn't effect it. I refreshed my browser, too. This is the message that comes up: AccessDeniedAccess Denied5C4CF1B2230CBEEDT0Zi9+u3d9Xi3w7i/4m0gkSLrUTb9g/pP4lNpfDVV6Qtcg+tYkUt9rOGO5l0q3py

Oh, got it. That second link works. Thanks!

[Spacyman]

Oh no it's nothing like that, in fact the link worked earlier but it seems that they have trouble with the site, I suspect a too big affluence. go directly to the website http://kony2012.com

[RunningDeer]

Great hundredth Monkey story. Almost gave up watching in the beginning. Too, brutal. Though, 15 minutes into one has hope. Joseph Kony, there is no word in the dictionary to describe this diabolical evil. It’s great that many are taking action steps.

Two important counter points: 1)some/more than some of the people they are reaching out to for help have been openly linked to the Illuminati 2) the symbol @ 27:30 minutes is connected with the Illuminati.

[Little Ishta]

Bumping this! Let's make it happen! Get Kony famous!

[Corncrake]

Thanks Little Ishta but this has also been posted today under the title " Invisible Children : A new video and a way to change the world'. I listened to a documentary about Kony on Radio 4 a few months ago and to my shame had to turn it off because I was out walking and it was making me cry so I was really keen to support this movement. However, someone has just sent me a link to a blog which is highly unflattering about the 'invisible children' movement. I will post it here http://sammhayden.tumblr.com/. In this instance I don't agree with the Political Scientist at Yale's comments - although in other situations I might - because the Lord's Resistance Army is so very brutal is just has to be stopped and as quickly as possible. Regarding the finance's of the Invisible Children - this is a difficult one. I don't know how valid his comments are and would appreciate anyone else's input.

[Peace4all]

This video is popping up everyone on Facebook, catching like wildfire.. I've seen at least 20 people post it.
4.2 million views in 2 days..
Something seems suspicious about the video for me though, and i can't quite point a finger at it.

[jackovesk]

A Noble & Just cause...

...But I find it extremely difficult to believe Kony is not being funded and has been allowed to continue this Rein of Terror untouched for 26 years..?

Mugabi is still at it and he has the support of (ALL) Western Govts, if he did'nt he to would have been stopped just like #24 on the List (Muammar Gaddafi) and we all know what happened to him don't we...:yes4:

The Parrot-Talking Creeps me out aswell as the (Turncoat 'Bought & Paid For Politicians) that say they want to support the cause..?

Again Obama & Nato got rid of #24 on the List (Muammar Gaddafi), so why can't they get rid of #1...?????

Very suspicious indeed...

Having said all that the children must come first & Koni must be stopped once & for all..!

[Dennis Leahy]

I am inspired by the video's author. A human doing, not just a human being.

But, so many people completely ignore politics, so I'm baffled why they would make up signs that look like Kony is running for political office. Rather than

"Kony 2012",

the signs should read

STOP Kony in 2012!
Kony is a Killer!

And why use the word "famous?" It should be "infamous", not "famous", right?

Yes, Jackovesk, if Kony threatened international bankers...if he succeeded in getting rid of the Ugandan Central Bank, he would already be dead.

It really is amazing that this Kony guy is still alive after decades of this maniacal behavior. How about dropping leaflets showing a reward for Kony? $10,000 dead or $100,000 alive. They probably don't use Facebook much, but I'll bet that news would travel from village to village quickly.

Dennis

[rabbit]

Here's what I don't get. I saw "Invisible Children" at least a year ago, if not more. So why is everyone going nuts over him today, specifically? Did I miss something overnight?

[S-L]

Here's what I don't get. I saw "Invisible Children" at least a year ago, if not more. So why is everyone going nuts over him today, specifically? Did I miss something overnight?

They are making this video go viral right now because on April 20th they want people around the world to post those KONY posters everywhere. The idea is to blanket every city with this message and capture headlines everywhere, reaching even more people.

Overall I can't speak to the quality of the NGO, but I think this project serves as a useful tool to reach people who are blissfully unaware of what's happening around the world. It's a small, specific, targeted issue, but it can spark some to awaken. Just like the Zeitgeist video did for some. People are tuned off, watching TV, reading celebrity gossip... a video like this can engage the younger generation. On that level I think it's a worthwhile project.

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

A Noble & Just cause...

...But I find it extremely difficult to believe Kony is not being funded and has been allowed to continue this Rein of Terror untouched for 26 years..?


Having said all that the children must come first & Koni must be stopped once & for all..!

I agree with this.
My first reaction was the same...why hasn´t this been stopped? Why?

Although I admire the cause, and am sickened to the core of my being at the atrocity occuring in Africa, I found the video to be "over the top icky" towards the end. T-shirts, wrist bands, posters....for sale!
The motto :-"Make him famous to get him arrested?" is so far out of my paradigm, that I begin to question the whole project. What started out as a noble cause has become a full on Hollywood production, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.






Overall I can't speak to the quality of the NGO, but I think this project serves as a useful tool to reach people who are blissfully unaware of what's happening around the world. It's a small, specific, targeted issue, but it can spark some to awaken. Just like the Zeitgeist video did for some. People are tuned off, watching TV, reading celebrity gossip... a video like this can engage the younger generation. On that level I think it's a worthwhile project.

Yep. The very least this video will do, is raise an awareness to the fact that this is going on and for that I am grateful.
I am reminded of a video I watched on Prof. Roger Nelson ( who I first saw in the movie WAKE UP ) on global consciousness.

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He said :-
"If meditation and intentions and prayers are directed toward a better world, I think the global consciousness would be pleased about that and may react."

So, for the sake of the children, may the intention of this video production cause a shift to occur and all children live in peace throughout the world in the furure.

[sandy]

There is a much greater agenda here than meets the eye and although the original promise to stop Kony has genuine intent it leaves me wondering why TPTB are finally helping. This has been going on for Years (way too many :( ) however why now might there be some intervention>>>>>including famous stars know to be connected to the Zionist Elitists ??

Could it help those running in the election ie Obama, Gingrich even saw Harper's picture for heaven sake :) (I wonder what Harper is doing about the deaths of our aboriginal children in residential schools that went on for years other than trying to squash the publication of this news!! )

Another distraction and soft soap sale to see TPTB as good guys helping the little guy. Also they are testing the waters to see how many get on the band wagon so they can count the numbers of those participating to get a feel for how many are still sleeping and believing this new line of propaganda.

Don't be surprised if you get emails after signing on or promoting this on Face Book from your local government reps asking for your support in upcoming initiatives and elections as now that you have taken the bait they will assume they have a fish on the line.

[chomo1968]

could it be,cos gadaffi had oil and kony hasnt got what they are interrested in??
if "they" really wanted to kill him he would be dead already,or not??
looks like the big bosses dont give a **** about 30 tousend african kids....
sad,sad but thats our reality
love
chomo

[Paa]

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[Mandala]

KONY 2012 is a film and campaign by Invisible Children that aims to make Joseph Kony famous, not to celebrate him, but to raise support for his arrest and set a precedent for international justice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=player_embedded#at=206

[gooty64]

Oh my Mandala, very important video-thank you!

[Mandala]

I believe in order

Invisible Children : A new video and a way to change the world.
Kony 2012
Demented Joseph Kony

[seko]

great work all of them and I want those kids live a healthy life, please.

[Mandala]

A Noble & Just cause...

...But I find it extremely difficult to believe Kony is not being funded and has been allowed to continue this Rein of Terror untouched for 26 years..?

Mugabi is still at it and he has the support of (ALL) Western Govts, if he did'nt he to would have been stopped just like #24 on the List (Muammar Gaddafi) and we all know what happened to him don't we...:yes4:

The Parrot-Talking Creeps me out aswell as the (Turncoat 'Bought & Paid For Politicians) that say they want to support the cause..?

Again Obama & Nato got rid of #24 on the List (Muammar Gaddafi), so why can't they get rid of #1...?????

Very suspicious indeed...

Having said all that the children must come first & Koni must be stopped once & for all..!

My dear, I know it can be stopped in an instant.
Once any Seal Team intel identifies him, he's gone. Those guys are that good. if given the ok. I live and breathe Seal Teams. Those guys are my heroes, and always will be. Mandala for Seals

[Carmen]

This film seems to be going nicely viral! I have been told about it from so many different sources today!!

People Power! Yay!!

[etheric underground]

Let the people here and now on avalon join the army...
We talk about doing the work.... well lets do it.

[Corncrake]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17295078

Uganda rebel Joseph Kony target of viral campaign video

[Falcor]

just saw this all over my facebook.

this is very powerful and in my eyes speaks for much more than kony. it is a global cry for a movement by the people for the people. we have the power to change our world like this everyday. we are beginning to see......how its all going to change :)

[angel in disguise]

Not sure if anyone has seen this but after watching the Kony 2012 and seeing so many posts about it... People started posting this... http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

[Phoenix]

For the folks who think this is a psy-op, thanks for your perspective, it's an interesting thought. But for the love of life, how will anybody ever do ANYTHING positive without people claiming psy-op!? I feel like it doesn't matter what the idea or initiative or movie or organization is, some just feel it'll always not be for the good of humanity.

What evidence do we have other than the finances of Invisible Children and the fact that possible Zionist celebrities are supporting this cause? Thanks. Your response means a lot to me. Why? Because after watching this yesterday, I was really moved... and was really inspired with the creativity here... and then I see the naysayers and it just decimates my new found hope and kicks me to the ground ONCE AGAIN, reopening the wound and bleeding more than the last time.

phoenix

[Phoenix]

Hi, just wanted to suggest that we merge this thread with the other one found here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42123-Kony-2012

[jcocks]

This is getting huge momentum here in Perth. 14,000 have joined the perth facebook page for this.

Although a little suspicious that this has garnered so much attention when there are many many other worthy causes out there, some more worthy than this....

Maybe the trick will be to keep the momentum going after this and go after more causes.....

[Phoenix]

Maybe the trick will be to keep the momentum going after this and go after more causes.....

I think this is KEY. Good stuff jcocks.

[ajyana]

read this from my facebook this morning :

by "The Real Alternative News Source"

"Beware of a propaganda war piece called, Kony 2012. It's emotionally driving, yet it panders to the leftist blood lust for war to nation build in Uganda. Now as if the U.S doesn't have enough problems as it is with it's declining economy and continuation of G.W Bush era wars and expansion by Barack Obama. Where are the so call "anti-war" left at?"

[Anchor]

IMO

This is one faction of the PTW against another.

Donations...

Rhianna... tweeting

Justin Bieber... tweeting

'Nuff said.

[meeradas]

looks like the big bosses dont give a **** about 30 tousend african kids....

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[Anchor]

There is a much greater agenda here than meets the eye and although the original promise to stop Kony has genuine intent it leaves me wondering why TPTB are finally helping. This has been going on for Years (way too many :( ) however why now might there be some intervention>>>>>including famous stars know to be connected to the Zionist Elitists ??

Could it help those running in the election ie Obama, Gingrich even saw Harper's picture for heaven sake :) (I wonder what Harper is doing about the deaths of our aboriginal children in residential schools that went on for years other than trying to squash the publication of this news!! )

Another distraction and soft soap sale to see TPTB as good guys helping the little guy. Also they are testing the waters to see how many get on the band wagon so they can count the numbers of those participating to get a feel for how many are still sleeping and believing this new line of propaganda.

Don't be surprised if you get emails after signing on or promoting this on Face Book from your local government reps asking for your support in upcoming initiatives and elections as now that you have taken the bait they will assume they have a fish on the line.

The video lost me at this part

"The next 27minutes are an experiment, but in order for it to work, you have to pay attention"

[Cjay]

I just sent the video, with a very strong but brief plea for help, to about 100 people.

When I watched it, there were 21,107,207 views in three days. I want to see that number exceed 100 million by the end of the week.

[miqeel]

No doubt Kony is as evil as you can find and what's happening is utterly wrong. But it's also important to know more about Invisible Children!

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithoutPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1128466&SubsidiaryNumber=0

-No actual data on how much money do they spend on charity work.

-Accountability of 2/4 stars

-Group favours direct military intervention,

-Their money funds the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces.

-Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting

-Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission

"Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re helping fund the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem."

And as well as that: http://tinansubuga.com/2012/03/07/practicality-of-the-kony-2012-campaign/

Let me just put a quote from one of my facebook friends, who summarized it best.


I mean, it's not like I'm pro-Warlord or anything but what really annoys me is that of the 38 people in my newsfeed who shared the video, three quarters of them are the type of idiots who think that by sharing this video they're exempt from doing things, meaningful things, in their own communities...!
It may not have a sexy Youtube video or an annoying American narrating, but they could go sit with an old person who has nobody down the road from them. They could volunteer in a hospice. They could join St Vincent de Paul & do some soup runs with the homeless.
Instead, they share a ****in' video & talk self-righteously about it.

More pertinently though, think people should be cautious about an NGO who refuses to have their accounts independently audited, reportedly spend only 37% of money raised on the cause they advocate.

This is not to even mention that their proposed solution is, inexplicably, to actually promote warfare in an extremely volatile region.

[meeradas]

... and i thought: "Who'd choose Hitler's birthday as their campaign's culmination point?"

Plus, wearing a bracelet with a mass murderer's name on it feels very odd. No good, that.

[Sidney]

The thing is though, is that ONE person cared enough to start this. Maybe its not the solution to everything, but it is what has been manifested by one persons passion, to save his brothers and sisters. So what if its the military. They are there, and they are spreading the word, that WE CAN. Give the guy some credit. But I do agree that the signs are misleading, they should say WANTED-Dead or alive.

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Just saw a movie last night, called Machine Gun Preacher. It´s exactly about it.

Check out the trailer:

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Cheers,

Raf.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Uploaded 5th March 2012 ... 26,684,765 hits so far ..... WOW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=g-logo&context=G27d6ca7FOAAAAAAAAAA

viking

[S-L]

Here's what a friend of mine had to say about KONY 2012:

The danger with this awareness campaign is a structure of charity and dominance. So that we get into this mentality that its *our* duty to save *them*. Rather than looking at how our domestic and foreign policies impede others in being able to self-determine. A focus on awareness needs to be on how are we contributing to the problem. Awareness of how our own privilege leads to oppressions world wide is necessary. Its likely better for the U.S. and Europe to consider their colonial impacts and the on-going oppressive trade sanctions that maintains an army like the LRA. I'm not actually convinced that getting Kony will do anything different while social conditions permit any rebel warlord to take over and continue brutalizing communities. One will replace another. America needs to realise how its complicit in world violence and not by being ignorant of the violence but by being ignorant of how their dominance and the maintenance of their dominance contributes to it. This is not an *us* vs. *Them* thing. Their social issues are Our social issues. and we need to see the connections and make real local changes if we want to help places like Uganda.

[grapevine]

Why not get behind this campaign and see if it works? If it does then (presumably) they'll go onto the next despot on the list. If it doesn't work then the campaign will die a death and nothing will be done at all. There's nothing to lose really is there, and so much to gain. This campaign appears to have affected the 'sleeping' people, so it can't all be bad. Just give it a chance . . . .

[Paa]

-I've removed this post-

[Eric J (Viking)]

Interesting article here...

Why the ‘Stop Kony 2012′ campaign is malicious, vile and repulsive

http://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/stop-kony-stop-conning/

viking

[Cjay]

Perhaps the Mods would like to merge this with the other Kony thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42123-Kony-2012

I suggest a new thread title: "KONY 2012 - a plea to stop the demented Joseph Kony in 2012"

[Mandala]

Perhaps the Mods would like to merge this with the other Kony thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42123-Kony-2012

I suggest a new thread title: "KONY 2012 - a plea to stop the demented Joseph Kony in 2012"

Mods, can we merge these 3 threads?

Invisible Children : A new video and a way to change the world.
Kony 2012
Demented Joseph Kony

[haibane]

I've watched the video, and have to say I feel kinda uneasy about it. And fortunately before I even started formulating my feelings, the Corbett Report comes to rescue:
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[Peace4all]

Please don't fall prey to this campaign.
I can't help but feel this is a distraction, apparently only 1/3rd of the money invisible children raises goes to the actual cause.
If we want to help lets find a different way than donating to a foundation that uses their money to pay the salary of the filmmakers.
P.S: Notice the use of the little kid, making us all feel empathy for the little children in Uganda, the whole video also promotes american government and puts fear and anger in our hearts. Im not saying we shouldn't stop KONY, he is obviously a very evil man, you can tell by just looking at his picture. There has got to be a better way than to support american military intervention don't ya think?
There are so many of those children are starving in Africa commercials they could have stopped the famine with the money it cost them to air the commercials. Why do you think they keep doing it? Someone is getting paid.

[nearing]

In response to the video 2 posts above:
These 2 are crazy and make me really angry.

Just because it's been going on for years, doesn't make it any less urgent to stop it. Why shouldn't the people actually rise up and make a statement that forces the hands of our governments to actually DO something? NO one wants bombing to occur! And it doesn't have to! He is one thug! This guy is a criminal who needs to be arrested and tried. Period.

What is the alternative? Just look away? That's better? Really? I got one word for that: Hitler.

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In response to the post above:
The article where the 1/3 of the $, blah, blah was stated, had no stated author. I have heard that the Kony people actually wrote that!

Please don't believe everything you read just because it's written somewhere on the net. Think about the motives...

[Peace4all]

I guess what you have read and heard has a lot more credential then what i have, sorry master Nearing.
I don't believe everything i read, i also don't believe every movie clip i see,
I never said that we shouldn't stop this guy, just perhaps in a different fashion would be better, do you really think frikin American intervention is going to solve **** all? Has it ever?

[nearing]

I am glad you don't. What motive could possibly be behind telling people that only 1/3 of that money goes to the organization by someone unwilling to put their name on it or say HOW they got that info?

I don't care if it's American or not - it's not as if this guy has an army behind him. Should be pretty friggin easy for any government to go in and arrest him. Obviously they need public pressure to do it. I am all for this public pressure BEFORE we have another Hitler on our hands.

[Peace4all]

Well from what i read, they are a non-profit organization so they have to put up how much they are spending on everything. I guess what you read its Kony's people doing it... right.
He has an army of children with him, would you shoot a child in the head? NO
Would a child you shoot you? Maybe
I'm interested in seeing how all of this turns out, im hoping for the good.
But I'm not going to sit and dwell on the subject, nor will i get sad or angry.
/http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3424382/suspicious+about+kony+2012/

[ThePythonicCow]

Perhaps the Mods would like to merge this with the other Kony thread


Mods, can we merge these 3 threads?
Three threads merged, and thread title (for future posts here) changed to "Invisible Children: KONY 2012 - a plea to stop the demented Joseph Kony in 2012"

[alxz]

I feel uneasy with what he is saying on 25:45 ..
we have thousand of konny 2012 bracelets, that we want everyone to wear, This year only. Each bracelet has a unique ID-number. Input that number and you enter the mission to make konny famous..... Sounds like an RFID test chip. Touching story, but there is something fishy bout the whole thing..

[Phoenix]

What is the alternative? In 1994, in Rwanda, what was the alternative other than military intervention against the Interhamwe by the Rwanda Patriotic Front and Paul Kagame?

In Germany, what was the alternative to stopping Hitler?

What is the alternative to violence when dealing with genocidal or democidal aggression? Can we please talk about this?

[nearing]

I feel uneasy with what he is saying on 25:45 ..
we have thousand of konny 2012 bracelets, that we want everyone to wear, This year only. Each bracelet has a unique ID-number. Input that number and you enter the mission to make konny famous..... Sounds like an RFID test chip. Touching story, but there is something fishy bout the whole thing..

Sounds like signing a petition and wearing an acknowledgment that you did.

[Phoenix]

I feel uneasy with what he is saying on 25:45 ..
we have thousand of konny 2012 bracelets, that we want everyone to wear, This year only. Each bracelet has a unique ID-number. Input that number and you enter the mission to make konny famous..... Sounds like an RFID test chip. Touching story, but there is something fishy bout the whole thing..

Sounds like signing a petition and wearing an acknowledgment that you did.

IMO that's brilliant marketing in today's instant gratification tech culture

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http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/qm349/why_the_kony_documentary_and_invisible_children/

A very interesting read:

Dear Jason Russell,

After being bombarded with your KONY 2012 crusade, I have no choice but to respond to your highly inaccurate, offensive, and harmful propaganda. I realized I had to respond in hopes of stopping you before you cause more violence and deaths to the Acholi people (Northern Ugandans), the very people you are claiming to protect. Firstly, I would like to question your timing of this KONY 2012 crusade in Uganda when most of the violence from Joseph Kony and the LRA (The Lord’s Resistance Army) has subsided in Uganda in the past 5 years. The LRA has moved onto neighboring countries like the DRC and Sudan. Why are you not urging action in the countries he is currently in? Why are you worried about Kony all of a sudden when Ugandans are not at this present moment?

This grossly illogical timing and statements on your website such as “Click here to buy your KONY 2012 products” makes me believe that the timing has more to do with your commercial interests than humanitarian interests. With the upcoming U.S. presidential elections and the waning interest in Invisible Children, it seems to be perfect timing to start a crusade. I also must add at this point how much it personally disgusts me the way in which you have commercialized a conflict in which thousands of people have died.

Secondly, I would like to address the highly inaccurate content of your video. Your video did not leave the viewer any more knowledgeable about the conflict in Uganda, but only emotionally assaulted. I could not help but notice how conveniently one-sided the “explanation” in your video was. There was absolutely no mention of the role of the Ugandan government and military in the conflict. Let alone the role of the U.S. government and military. The only information given is “KONY MUST BE STOPPED.”

I would like to inform you that stopping Kony would not end the conflict. (It is correctly pronounced “Kohn” by the way). This conflict is deeply embedded in Uganda’s history that neither starts nor ends with Kony. Therefore, your solution to the problem is flawed. There is no way to know the solution, without full knowledge of the problem itself. We must act on knowledge, not emotions.

Joseph Kony formed the LRA in retaliation to the brutality of President Museveni (from the south) committing mass atrocities on the Acholi people (from the north) when President Museveni came to power in 1986. This follows a long history of Ugandan politics that can be traced back to pre-colonial times. The conflict must be contextualized within this history. (If you want to have this proper knowledge, I suggest you start by working with scholars, not celebrities). President Museveni is still in power and in his reign of 26 years he has arguably killed as many, if not more Acholi people, than Joseph Kony. Why is President Museveni not demonized, let alone mentioned? I would like to give you more credit than just ignorance. I have three guesses. One is that Invisible Children has close ties with the Ugandan government and military, which it has been accused of many times. Second, is that you are willing to fight Kony, but not the U.S. Government, which openly supports President Museveni. Third, is that Invisible Children feels the need to reduce the conflict to better commercialize it.

This brings me to my third issue, the highly offensive nature of your video. Firstly, it is offensive to your viewer. The scene with your “explanation” of the conflict to your toddler son suggests that the viewers have the mental capacity of a toddler and can only handle information given in such a reductionist manner. I would like to think American teenagers and young adults (which is clearly your target audience) are smarter than your toddler son. I would hope that we are able to realize that it is not a “Star Wars” game with aliens and robots in some far off galaxy as your son suggests, but a real world conflict with real world people in Uganda. This is a real life conflict with real life consequences.

Secondly, and more importantly, it is offensive to Ugandans. The very name “Invisible Children” is offensive. You claim you make the invisible, visible. The statements, “We have seen these kids.” and “No one knew about these kids.” are part of your slogan. You seem to be strongly hinting that you somehow have validated and found these kids and their struggles.

Whether you see them or not, they were always there. Your having seen the kids does not validate their existence in any shape or form or bring it any more significance. You say “no one” knew about the kids. What about the kids themselves? What about the families of the kids who were killed and abducted? Are they “no one?” Are they not human?

These children are not invisible, you are making them invisible by silencing, dehumanizing, marketing, and invalidating them.

Last year I went to Gulu, Uganda, where Invisible Children is based, and interviewed over 50 locals. Every single person questioned Invisible Children’s legitimacy and intention. Every single person. If anything, it seemed the people saw Invisible Children as a bigger threat than Joseph Kony at the time. Why is it the very people you are trying to “help” feel more offense than relief with your aid?

“They come here to make money and use us.”

“It makes us feel terrible to be presented as being so stupid and helpless.”

These are direct quotes. This was the sentiment of the majority of the people that I interviewed in varying degrees. I definitely didn’t see or hear these voices or opinions in your video. If you are to be “saving” the Acholi people, the very least you can be doing is holding yourself accountable to them and actually listening to what they have to say.

This offensive, inaccurate misconstruction of Ugandans and its conflict makes me wonder what and whom this is really about. It seems that you feel very good about yourself being a savior, a Luke Skywalker of sorts, and same with the girl in your video who passionately states, “This is what defines us”. Therefore, I can’t help but wonder if Invisible Children is more about defining the American do-gooders (and making them feel good), rather than the Ugandans; profiteering the American military and corporations (which Invisible Children is officially and legally) than the conflict.

Lastly, I would like to address the harmful nature of your propaganda. I believe your actions will actually bring back the fighting in Northern Uganda. You are not asking for peace, but violence. The fighting has stopped in the past 5 years and the Acholi are finally enjoying some peace. You will be inviting the LRA and the fighting back into Uganda and disturbing this peace. The last time Invisible Children got politically involved and began lobbying it actually caused more violence and deaths. I beg you not to do it again.

If you open your eyes and see the actions of the Ugandan government and the U.S. government, you will see why. Why is it that suddenly in October of 2011 when there has been relative peace in Uganda for 4 years, President Obama decided to send troops into Uganda? Why is it that the U.S. military is so involved with AFRICOM, which has been pervading African countries, including Uganda? Why is it that U.S. has been traced to creating the very weapons that has been used in the violence? The U.S. is entering Uganda and other countries in Africa not to stop violence, but to create a new battlefield.

In your video you urge that the first course of action is that the Ugandan military needs American military and weapons. You are giving weapons to the very people who were killing the Acholi people in the first place. You are helping to open the grounds for America to make Uganda into a battlefield in which it can profit and gain power. Please recognize this is all part of a bigger military movement, not a humanitarian movement. This will cause deaths, not save lives. This will be doing more harm, than good.

You end your video with saying, “I will stop at nothing”. If nothing else, will you not stop for the lives of the Acholi people? Haven’t enough Acholi people suffered in the violence between the LRA and the Ugandan government? Our alliance should not be with the U.S. government or the Ugandan military or the LRA, but the Acholi people. There is a Ugandan saying that goes, “The grass will always suffer when two elephants fight.” Isn’t it time we let the grass grow?

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Amber Ha

Does anyone have evidence to support these claims? I will talk to my Ugandan friends asap and report back...

[Phoenix]

Hey folks,

Just saw a movie last night, called Machine Gun Preacher. It´s exactly about it.

Check out the trailer:

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Cheers,

Raf.

Wow. This is really in your face, huh RMorgan? What do you think would be a better thing for Gerad Butler to do? I wish I knew how a hero could succeed without going down this path...

[haibane]

Journeyman Pictures has just published the following video. Not that it brings much light to the whole matter, but it seems to me everyone ought to seek more information an insight before jumping onto ANY bandwagons like sheep.

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[Dennis Leahy]

Those that had a "funny feeling" about this...

A propaganda piece, making Kony out to be the only bad guy in central Africa? Did he learn his tricks from Ugandan dictator Museveni? Is this highlighting one bad guy really all about opening the door to US military involvement in central Africa? A little bit of groundwork for the US military, dropping a marker for the next spot after they drench the Middle East in blood? And worse - getting the American (and world) public to cheer-on military "intervention?"

The author/director of the film does seem sincere - but where did he get the (I would guess) $50,000 for the post-production work on that documentary? Are they using his initial enthusiasm, and making the director a pawn on yet another battlefield/chessboard?

http://www.blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/8007/2012-03-08.html


Invisible Children's goals initially may have been to publicize the plight of children caught in Uganda's decades-long conflicts; lately, IC has been acting as apologists for General Yoweri K. Museveni's dictatorship and the U.S. goal to impose AFRICOM (the U.S. Africa Military Command) on Africa.

IC has produced a brilliant film that's making the global rounds on Facebook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc)

It's a classic as propaganda pieces come. The short but overwhelmingly powerful film uses all the best tear-jerk techniques. In the end, the film denounces Joseph Kony, the leader of the brutal Lord's Resistance Army, while giving the impression that Museveni's dictatorship and his brutal military, which was found liable for war crimes in Democratic Republic of Congo by the International Court of Justice, has nothing to do with the atrocities committed against children in Uganda. It also doesn't inform viewers that Museveni abducted thousands of child soldiers to win his insurgency in Uganda in 1986, launching the pattern of child soldier recruitment all over Africa.

In fact, Kony's insurgency against Museveni was launched later, meaning he too learned child (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upITVcXw_Gk) soldier-abductions from Museveni.Dennis

[Hughe]

Americans should take care of their own citizens in big trouble. Leave other nations alone.

I stopped showing empathy to this type of action. I'm sorry.



http://www.prisonplanet.com/kony-2012-wrapping-imperialiam-in-activism.html
KONY 2012 is produced like any other sleek marketing campaign – instead of stimulating elements of self-satisfaction like advertisers would do to promote a product, US military intervention is justified to end an atrocious humanitarian catastrophe. The film also plays on an underlying theme of the White Man’s Burden, a notion that persons of European descent inherit a quality of guilt for their ancestors’ inclination for slavery and colonialism, requiring an activist response to finally correct the situation by “saving Africa.” During the Nigerian civil war in 1967, western media successfully used images of starving children for the first time to strengthen public support for military aid to the secessionist Republic of Biafra before rebel forces were defeated. This film attempts to purportedly “change the conversation of our culture,” however it remains a highly sophisticated refurbishment of pro-military interventionist foreign policy propaganda, dependent on dangerous subliminal messaging.

[RunningDeer]

Great hundredth Monkey story. Almost gave up watching in the beginning. Too, brutal. Though, 15 minutes into one has hope. Joseph Kony, there is no word in the dictionary to describe this diabolical evil. It’s great that many are taking action steps.

Two important counter points: 1)some/more than some of the people they are reaching out to for help have been openly linked to the Illuminati 2) the symbol @ 27:30 minutes is connected with the Illuminati.

There's a good chance that my suspicions hold merit. I watched the whole thing a couple of days ago and thought it was a red herring or is it call a red flag? See the two points above.

Today, on Alex Jones, "...powered by the system.." He also makes reference to those from industry @ 5:20 minutes into vid, and officials. Jones, "...pretext to invade.."

Please know, I am not saying forget the children. I have stepped in front of children to take blows meant for them. (Both figurative and literal.) This discussion is from the greater perspective.


FFT: "Problem, Reaction, Solution"?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

[Corncrake]

We have all read and seen far too much over the past years to take anything at face value and that is good. However, what is happening to those children is real - there is plenty of other evidence out there. The trouble is it is horrific - not easy to read about or view. Idi Amin - President of Uganda in the 1970's - was also known as the Butcher of Uganda because of his violent and despotic rule and there have been many others. We are also very well aware of government agendas and their service to self form of assistance. There are of course many other atrocities going on in the world and it is tough, with limited funds and not much free time, to know where to concentrate ones efforts. Some difficult choices have to be made. Sometimes charities do have to pay 'a fee' to corrupt leaders just to get supplies into a country - immoral but there is no option. One of the reasons I don't tend to support big charities is because a lot of their income goes on salaries and admin - as has happened with the maker of this film BUT as we are always reading on this forum people do have to earn a living. I have a highly qualified friend who has worked for Oxfam for many years working in war zones - he has just returned from Afganistan - at a fraction of what he could have earned in the City but he chose a different path. If you don't want to support Invisible Children may I suggest you contact the Red Cross or another of the many charitable organisations helping African countries - there may be another way of supporting these children.

[nearing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

Wrong, Alex. None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

If they think we will swallow this as an excuse to go to war - they are sorely mistaken - we aren't so gullible. WMDs did not exist.

[RunningDeer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

Wrong, Alex. None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

If they think we will swallow this as an excuse to go to war - they are sorely mistaken - we aren't so gullible. WMDs did not exist.

He's in agreement with what you speak of. That's one reason why I've posted it. He's trying to get the word out so war, blood shed and suffering doesn't happen. Alex Jones is also educating us on how the soulless people are trying to tug at the heart strings of young people, by flooding media through accounts like twitter. It is a smoke screen while greater monstrosities and controls are committed.
Peace.

[nearing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

Wrong, Alex. None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

If they think we will swallow this as an excuse to go to war - they are sorely mistaken - we aren't so gullible. WMDs did not exist.

He's in agreement with what you speak of. That's one reason why I've posted it. He's trying to get the word out so war, blood shed and suffering doesn't happen.
Peace.

He clearly thinks that those of us calling for this man's arrest are willing to blindly support a war. He is wrong.

I am glad you posted.

[Hym]

For a so-called non-profit to use over $8 million to promote the cause is very questionable. I saw a report on MSM last night where the spokesman for the charity connected to the video claimed those numbers. Remember that the non-profit took in over $11 million over the years it has been in existence. The spokesman also noted that only a little over $3 million of that $11 million was given to the cause in Africa. Due dilligence is due HERE.
Many have known of Kony for years and those who would protect themselves have been prohibited from doing so by the ptw. Go ask the U.S. command and control in Africa, Africom, about the present situations there and why the many situations there are the way they are....Those of us here have enough discernment and investigative abilities to answer that ourselves. It is hundreds of years of rape, murder, abuse, and all to steal natural resources. I defer to Major General Smedley Butler's book called "War Is A Racket" as to why these atrocities have happened for hundreds of years all around the world.

[RunningDeer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks

Wrong, Alex. None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

If they think we will swallow this as an excuse to go to war - they are sorely mistaken - we aren't so gullible. WMDs did not exist.

He's in agreement with what you speak of. That's one reason why I've posted it. He's trying to get the word out so war, blood shed and suffering doesn't happen.
Peace.

He clearly thinks that those of us calling for this man's arrest are willing to blindly support a war. He is wrong.

I am glad you posted.

Oops, I was too slow to add the last paragraph, so I've added here just to create the fuller picture: "He's in agreement with what you speak of. That's one reason why I've posted it. He's trying to get the word out so war, blood shed and suffering doesn't happen. Alex Jones is also educating us on how the soulless people are trying to tug at the heart strings of young people, by flooding media through accounts like twitter. It is a smoke screen while greater monstrosities and controls are committed."
Peace.

[eaglespirit]

The Malevolent Media IS Going Down

The People are the New Media...this is going to make that 'crystal clear',
simply be relentlessly personally responsible

This is all leading to a Higher Worldwide Entrainment for the Good of Humanity, Now

They CANNOT propagate wars without Us...Wars are about to become the most foolish of ways and means

ALL travesties are about to be uncovered worldwide...EVERYTHING they manipulate

BE Good!!!

[Kimberley]

Yes a must watch for sure, IMHO!!

KONY 2012 on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc


A very big part of this story is that as of this moment there have been 56,647,137 views since March 5th.

Power to the people!!!

I would love to see the views double and triple...

Much love!!!

[christian]

None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

If they think we will swallow this as an excuse to go to war - they are sorely mistaken - we aren't so gullible. WMDs did not exist.

If it would be that easy. Of course the CIA 'could'. The elites could end wars, poverty and enviromental destruction with the stroke of a pen. But they got a bad track record... I wouldn't trust them or any of the old elite organizations with bringing out my garbage...

Comparing this Kony issue to all the crimes going on in the world today, this campaign seems like an orchestrated distraction to me.

[Hym]

Thanks WhiteCrowblackDeer for the rest. Before I responded to the thread, I actually wrote a longer, more profanity laced, response to my son sending me the video, reminding him of the years of insight and discovery I've instilled in him and he's just 17. Sometimes I see my responses as a constant reminder to myself to maintain the activities of positive movement forward and personal responsibility in knowing the truth of the power of my own thoughts and actions. It always has to come back to each of us actively loving ourselves into the world we want to live in.
I used to get ticked off about cigarette ads and hard liquor ads as a kid, which used to get me in trouble. The funny thing is that a lot of my friends were the misfits of the area, early into the unhealthy things adults did, doing stuff I didn't do while getting good grades and being athletic and all. All of this started with one very cool teacher in SoCal years ago who asked us 7th graders to bring in magazines to investigate the images in advertisements....I can't thank Mr.Fox, our English teacher, enough....for all of the positive aggravation this discernment has led me to.

[haibane]

None of us want an 'invasion' or a war. We would like the CIA to quietly go in there and pick up this one criminal. Surely, with the intelligence and resources the CIA has - they can arrest one little man who has but a very few people surrounding him.

Please forgive my bluntness - but what does that thing have to do with what you or I want, as long as you or I aren't in charge of it? What IS it that makes you even for a second consider the idea of CIA actually going to dedicate those resources and intelligence to something that's truly right with no malevolent agenda at all?

/facepalm

[Referee]

Wake up this is PSYOP to get the US to declare war with Uganda. This is BS all the way be careful.............Anything pluged this hard by the MSM is never a good thing.............Most likley will be co-oped with OBAMA re-election campaign.

[haibane]

Nice to see the propaganda is apparently backfiring / imploding - took me quite a while to find a positive comment about the Kony thingy on YT (^__^ )

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[haibane]

I guess this ought to shed enough light onto the matter, right? Could it be that simple?
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[modwiz]

Let us not lose sight that Kony is a Saddam, or an Osama ploy. He is an excuse for putting our army into a foreign country that has lots of untapped oil that we want to get our hands on. The name Kony should be seen as a red or false flag if it is used in any way to foment an emotion or reason for military action.

No more bogey-men! Enough! The action packs they are selling to kids for 25 dollars a pop is just the sleaziest angle I have ever seen in a war propaganda action.

[modwiz]

Wake up this is PSYOP to get the US to declare war with Uganda. This is BS all the way be careful.............Anything pluged this hard by the MSM is never a good thing.............Most likley will be co-oped with OBAMA re-election campaign.

We will have crossed a real threshold if any politician who mentions Kony and the associated propaganda anywhere gets booed, and loudly. That will be music to my ears and heart. Booing the TV at any mention of it there will help any duped family members. Oh, silly me. I forgot nobody watches TV together anymore. Everyone does it alone these days. Almost. :doh:

[motherlove]

I don't support US or any other troops going into any country because they will never leave. It's not about the children. Best Wishes

[nearing]

Mea Culpa. I didn't post earlier but I realized pretty soon after posting that there was something amiss. Of all of the evidence that this isn't what it's made to be, the date they chose for the big unveiling was the clincher.

Clever campaign.