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jackovesk
12th March 2012, 03:47
March 11, 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGEBmSmOqI&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGEBmSmOqI&feature=player_embedded

RELATED: Kony 2012 Hoax Exposed (http://www.infowars.com/kony-2012-hoax-exposed/)

RELATED: Armed Troops Burn Down Homes, Kill Children To Evict Ugandans In Name Of Global Warming (http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-troops-burn-down-homes-kill-children-to-evict-ugandans-in-name-of-global-warming.html)

RELATED: British Corporation Mass Murdering Ugandans in UN Sanctioned Land Grab (http://www.prisonplanet.com/british-corporation-mass-murdering-ugandans-in-un-sanctioned-land-grab.html)

Angelia Jolie openly works for the UN and CFR pushing globalist wars under the cover of humanitarian intervention.

Drunk on the blood of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and scores of other nations Jolie is now pushing military invasion to “help” Africa. She and her masters know full well that they are carrying out destabilization operations in the 3rd world so population can be reduced and resources stolen.

We need to call a spade a spade, this is part of a new branding rollout to launch a AFRICOM take over of Africa. This constitutes a crime against humanity and Jolie is a party to it and needs to be arrested along with other globalist that are using left cover to widen globalist empire.

The problem is you can’t go to the UN because it is at the center of the corporate global government takeover, the people are asleep and wars are being launched against innocents in the name of a bleeding heat liberal agenda. THEY COME IN PEACE!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4UwyGFKks&feature=player_embedded

http://www.prisonplanet.com/arrest-angelina-jolie-for-war-crimes-kony-2012.html

king anthony
12th March 2012, 04:07
After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?

gooty64
12th March 2012, 04:09
Brad Pitts first major role was that of a socio-path in Thelma and Louise movie.

I have always known Jolie and Pitt are psychopathic.

Dennis Leahy
12th March 2012, 04:22
I was pleased to see several people post an "I'm not so sure about this" and "this doesn't feel right" when the Kony 2012 stuff first hit the airwaves. I salute them, and remind them to trust that inner polygraph.

Me? Dammit... I immediately, initially fell in to the emotion, the compassion of severely abused children. I'm not ashamed to admit that I lead with compassion, but it does mean that until I fine-tune my internal polygraph and ulterior motive detector, that I'll need to rely on the early warning system some of you have developed. Perhaps, as a community, we are getting better at spotting psyops. Hope they don't double our dose of fluoride in retaliation.

Now, I'll also caution anyone against being so jaded and so skeptical that every single effort that anyone makes on this planet is first seen as evil - and then has to prove it's not.

Alex Jones - you're on notice! You have just completely blown any chance at receiving an invitation to the Jolie residence to feast on poached Komodo dragon.

Thanks Jack. Power-packed post!

Dennis

Dennis Leahy
12th March 2012, 04:46
After Angelina Jolie... how many more?Without the supporting roles of tens of thousands of individuals that deliberately and consciously acted as minions for the most evil Global Cabal, the Cabal would probably not have been able to function. The crimes against humanity are not stealing a candy bar, or even stealing a car - The Cabal have enslaved and deliberately damaged billions of people, and have slaughtered tens of millions. If you believe all justice is vindictive, then I cannot win an argument. With massive, monumental property crimes, I suppose that I could agree that getting caught, exposed, stopped, and the ability to continue curtailed, could be the place where we use the metaphysical power of forgiveness to make a transition that justice alone could never make.

However, these crimes are too grave, too evil, too heinous, too premeditated, plotted, and planned, too devastating, too harmful, too psychopathic, and too life changing (and life ending) to simply forgive. I believe the Cabal and their minions should not merely be forgiven. So, my answer to your question is: all of them. I don't believe in the death penalty for any crime, but I do want the Cabal and their minions not only stopped, but also tried, convicted, and jailed for life. Once the threat has been eliminated by incarceration, then we can work on forgiveness (but not pardon.)

King Anthony, did I read your question correctly, or did I read between the lines too much?

Dennis

jackovesk
12th March 2012, 04:49
If anyone is interested Alex goes into more detail on his Radio Show...

The Alex Jones Show -- 2012 Mar 11 SU

The 2 hour Sunday show is typically a review of the past week's news and a look forward to the coming week's events. The Infowars web site describes today's broadcast as follows.


On the Sunday, March 11 edition of the Alex Jones Show...

Alex talks about the establishment's latest propaganda effort -- Kony 2012 -- as it takes its bankster and war machine into Africa. Alex calls for the arrest of Hollywood darling Angelina Jolie, the CFR "ambassador" who has enthusiastically provided her services as part of a cynical propaganda cover for the next phase of globalist war crimes.

He also runs down the latest developments in the effort to hold Obama responsible for High Crimes and Misdemeanors and the latest on the simmering Iran attack.

Alex also covers the economy as Obama and the establishment cheerfully claim we are now out of the woods.

:director:...The Alex Jones Show - 2012 Mar 11 SU.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/bgwapb665ij0mnu/Alex_Jones_Show_2012_03_11__PPTV-members-edit.mp3)

king anthony
12th March 2012, 04:53
...did I read your question correctly, or did I read between the lines too much?

My comment was in jest - however, thank you for the answer. :)

jorr lundstrom
12th March 2012, 05:32
After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?

Well, its declared open season on predators. We dont know how this
part of the cleansing process will play out, yet. But Im afraid its
gonna be a hard lesson for everyone.


Jorr

Debra
12th March 2012, 06:02
You are the master curator of hot news packaging Jacovesk. Respect. Sensational post.
I am rudely awakened again.

So, so tragic that this perspective will just be dismissed by a larger populace, high on the Jolie diet.
She is a powerful meme, and what was that leg thing about!??
http://hurricanevanessa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Picture-616.png

songsfortheotherkind
12th March 2012, 06:23
After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?

Well, its declared open season on predators. We dont know how this
part of the cleansing process will play out, yet. But Im afraid its
gonna be a hard lesson for everyone.

Yup, because I don't know *anyone*, myself included, that isn't infected to one degree or another with the mind virus, particularly those who aren't actively addressing it within themselves, so I guess the only thing to do is exterminate the entire species from the face of the planet and the Universe, and chalk it up to 'oh well, that one didn't work'. *shrug*

I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break when I even dare to discuss how money isn't real are 'intentionally' working to foster the aims. Angelina speaks out against female circumcision- oh no, the Cabal is at work! She does her best with what she believes and she must be arrested! Then so must every religionist (religion is the tool of the Cabal) everyone who votes in elections (politics is the tool of the Cabal), everyone who sends their children to schools (education is the tool of the Cabal) and everyone doing these things are intentionally guilty of supporting the Cabal and should be jailed/punished/shot at dawn.

Blah. Blerk. Ok, here's a thought- what can be directly done about this that *doesn't* involve feeding frenzies, mobs at dusk with pitchforks, vigorous fingerpointing, table thumping, paranoia, conspiracy theorist gatherings at the waterhole? Are the individuals getting involved in these actions claiming to be absolutely mind virus free? Do the individuals concerned claim to be entirely 'predator' energy free? Is it a predator action to rip shreds into the appearance of a woman, casting aspersions on her character in part because she is thin?

*This* is evolution? The name calling, the hysteria, the hyperbole? So, no humanitarian efforts, *anywhere*, because they're ALL tainted (the Cabal is *every*where, all the time, in everything), so no interventions are possible, must leave the warring factions in such countries to their sovereign right to exterminate one another, no outside perspectives can/will be tolerated, it's the individual's sovereign right to slice off their daughter's external genitals because any intervention will be tainted by the Cabal, no matter what *anyone* does or believes, if it's not firmly embedded in the conspiracy world then they're ALL WORKING WILLINGLY FOR THE CABAL... *lynchlynchlynch*

ugh. Ugh. I'm not going to visit any of these threads from now on, they most definitely are not where I want my evolution to be going- just ignore my intrusion.

songsfortheotherkind
12th March 2012, 06:31
She is a powerful meme and what was that leg thing about!??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2107370/Angelina-Jolie-Oscars-2012-right-leg-pose-goes-viral.html It's called, in some circles, geek humour and Hours of Fun with Photoshop, but I guess in this realm it's called Fodder for Character Assassination and Proof of Conspiracy Involvement. *shrugs*

im awake
12th March 2012, 07:27
i knew for a fact it was a sham when he said "this video is an experiment" and normally im really gullible but when something goes this big in a couple of days you can be sure its got a hidden agenda.
i guess the experiment was to see how many sheeple are still out there and by the looks of it we can push this straight back in there face and say NO MOAR WARS

Debra
12th March 2012, 07:28
OK, they did go to town. I did not watch the Academy Awards.



She is a powerful meme and what was that leg thing about!??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2107370/Angelina-Jolie-Oscars-2012-right-leg-pose-goes-viral.html It's called, in some circles, geek humour and Hours of Fun with Photoshop, but I guess in this realm it's called Fodder for Character Assassination and Proof of Conspiracy Involvement. *shrugs*

jackovesk
12th March 2012, 07:37
After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?

Well, its declared open season on predators. We dont know how this
part of the cleansing process will play out, yet. But Im afraid its
gonna be a hard lesson for everyone.

Yup, because I don't know *anyone*, myself included, that isn't infected to one degree or another with the mind virus, particularly those who aren't actively addressing it within themselves, so I guess the only thing to do is exterminate the entire species from the face of the planet and the Universe, and chalk it up to 'oh well, that one didn't work'. *shrug*

I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break when I even dare to discuss how money isn't real are 'intentionally' working to foster the aims. Angelina speaks out against female circumcision- oh no, the Cabal is at work! She does her best with what she believes and she must be arrested! Then so must every religionist (religion is the tool of the Cabal) everyone who votes in elections (politics is the tool of the Cabal), everyone who sends their children to schools (education is the tool of the Cabal) and everyone doing these things are intentionally guilty of supporting the Cabal and should be jailed/punished/shot at dawn.

Blah. Blerk. Ok, here's a thought- what can be directly done about this that *doesn't* involve feeding frenzies, mobs at dusk with pitchforks, vigorous fingerpointing, table thumping, paranoia, conspiracy theorist gatherings at the waterhole? Are the individuals getting involved in these actions claiming to be absolutely mind virus free? Do the individuals concerned claim to be entirely 'predator' energy free? Is it a predator action to rip shreds into the appearance of a woman, casting aspersions on her character in part because she is thin?

*This* is evolution? The name calling, the hysteria, the hyperbole? So, no humanitarian efforts, *anywhere*, because they're ALL tainted (the Cabal is *every*where, all the time, in everything), so no interventions are possible, must leave the warring factions in such countries to their sovereign right to exterminate one another, no outside perspectives can/will be tolerated, it's the individual's sovereign right to slice off their daughter's external genitals because any intervention will be tainted by the Cabal, no matter what *anyone* does or believes, if it's not firmly embedded in the conspiracy world then they're ALL WORKING WILLINGLY FOR THE CABAL... *lynchlynchlynch*

ugh. Ugh. I'm not going to visit any of these threads from now on, they most definitely are not where I want my evolution to be going- just ignore my intrusion.

On the Contrary songsfortheotherkind, you have Every Right to express your opinion...:yes4:

Sometimes the 'Truth' does knock you about a bit...

Here's another 'Theory' that hasn't been mentioned...

What if...Angelina Jolie is secretly working for the 'White Hats' to get a 'Leg Up' (pardon the punn) into the inside operations of the UN & CFR...:spy:...:pound:

Rgs,

Jack :yo:

AlexanderLight
12th March 2012, 15:29
The trend of being a 'celebrity' is fading, while the spiritual awakening is spreading around the globe. The awakened people are humble and loving, which is the exact opposite of what these NWO-'celebrity'-puppets are! Angelina Jolie, Kanye West, Jay-Z & Beyonce, Rihanna, etc. they are nothing more than puppets. The shadow elites use them to disguise their sick plans into something positive. Remember, all negative changes have been disguised as something extremely positive and beneficial to us!

All we can do at this point is to spread awareness and stop accepting the established institutions.

RunningDeer
12th March 2012, 15:29
I was pleased to see several people post an "I'm not so sure about this" and "this doesn't feel right" when the Kony 2012 stuff first hit the airwaves. I salute them, and remind them to trust that inner polygraph.

Me? Dammit... I immediately, initially fell in to the emotion, the compassion of severely abused children. I'm not ashamed to admit that I lead with compassion, but it does mean that until I fine-tune my internal polygraph and ulterior motive detector, that I'll need to rely on the early warning system some of you have developed. Perhaps, as a community, we are getting better at spotting psyops. Hope they don't double our dose of fluoride in retaliation.

Now, I'll also caution anyone against being so jaded and so skeptical that every single effort that anyone makes on this planet is first seen as evil - and then has to prove it's not.

Alex Jones - you're on notice! You have just completely blown any chance at receiving an invitation to the Jolie residence to feast on poached Komodo dragon.

Thanks Jack. Power-packed post!

Dennis
To Dennis:
:wizard:

xo
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

PS Also, I love your phrase: "internal polygraph".

cloud9
12th March 2012, 15:39
I honestly think this kind of rumors are the reason why many people don't take conspiracy theorists seriously... because they (we) see conspiracies everywhere...
according to them (we), there are no normal real human beings anymore? Everybody is an enemy!

This is absolute manipulation, somebody is playing with our minds and we just let them.
We really need to wake up and decide not to participate in this crazy game!

Maia Gabrial
12th March 2012, 19:43
Wow! No doubts about what he feels about Jolie. And, I totally agree with him about her. But then I have no respect for the UN or it's killing machine, NATO. Since she worships them, I have no respect for her either.
NONE! I want them held accountable!

Black Panther
12th March 2012, 20:07
You are the master curator of hot news packaging Jacovesk. Respect. Sensational post.
I am rudely awakened again.

So, so tragic that this perspective will just be dismissed by a larger populace, high on the Jolie diet.
She is a powerful meme, and what was that leg thing about!??
http://hurricanevanessa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Picture-616.png

That's a weird powerful picture :eek:

firstlook
12th March 2012, 20:24
Brad Pitts first major role was that of a socio-path in Thelma and Louise movie.

I have always known Jolie and Pitt are psychopathic.

give me a break.

gooty64
12th March 2012, 20:38
I should not have worded it that strongly, my bad. I just get the creeps whenever I see these two "people". Sorry!



Brad Pitts first major role was that of a socio-path in Thelma and Louise movie.

I have always known Jolie and Pitt are psychopathic.

give me a break.

pixiestix
12th March 2012, 21:01
Well said Alex!
As well, I think many hollywood celebrities though, know little of what is actually going on outside their own neighborhood. Unfortunately, their spoken words (through ignorance) carry much weight in the MSM. A VERY powerful tool for the PTW...............

Delight
12th March 2012, 21:06
[QUOTE=king anthony;446702]After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?


Yup, because I don't know *anyone*, myself included, that isn't infected to one degree or another with the mind virus, particularly those who aren't actively addressing it within themselves, so I guess the only thing to do is exterminate the entire species from the face of the planet and the Universe, and chalk it up to 'oh well, that one didn't work'. *shrug*

I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break "at the mention of INSERT Something beyond the known"........

......*This* is evolution? The name calling, the hysteria, the hyperbole? So, no humanitarian efforts, *anywhere*, because they're ALL tainted (the Cabal is *every*where, all the time, in everything), so no interventions are possible, must leave the warring factions in such countries to their sovereign right to exterminate one another, no outside perspectives can/will be tolerated, it's the individual's sovereign right to slice off their daughter's external genitals because any intervention will be tainted by the Cabal, no matter what *anyone* does or believes, if it's not firmly embedded in the conspiracy world then they're ALL WORKING WILLINGLY FOR THE CABAL... *lynchlynchlynch*

ugh. Ugh. I'm not going to visit any of these threads from now on, they most definitely are not where I want my evolution to be going- just ignore my intrusion.

Dear songsfortheotherkind,
Thanks so much for your words. One of the traps well intentioned people fall into in Idealism is to make a bargain with the demon, believing the END justifies the means. I want to post a link to Paul Levy

http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/84778


Forbes laments, "One of the tragic characteristics of the wetiko psychosis is that it spreads partly by resistance to it. That is, those who try to fight wetikos sometimes, in order to survive, adopt wetiko values. Thus, when they ‘win,' they lose, or at least, the people lose."[xxvi] When we see people who are taken over by wetiko and we feel superior to them, our feeling of superiority is itself a symptom of the disease. If we unconsciously react against wetiko, having judgement, anger, hatred, etc., we are then acting out, however well-intentioned, the same process of shadow projection that underlies the wetiko disease in the first place - which is to dissociate from, project outside of ourselves, and react to our own evil. We are then unconsciously reacting to the unconscious part of ourselves which the wetikos embody. This re-action is an unconscious ritualistic invocation and re-enactment of the initial impulse within ourselves of turning away from and contracting against a part of ourselves. This is the timeless, primal act which called forth and spawned the spirit of wetiko in the first place. To the extent we are unaware of what we are doing, we, as ‘reps' for wetiko, are compulsively re-enacting our trauma, participating in re-creating the wetiko virus in this very moment. We are then playing out our unresolved internal affairs in the outside world by, in and through our reaction, unwittingly becoming a vector that is carrying the wetiko bug out into the world (please see my article, Triggered by Evil). Instead of unconsciously reacting and projecting the shadow outside of ourselves, when we consciously relate to and take responsibility for the evil within ourselves, we are energetically withdrawing and dis-investing from our complicity in the continual re-animation of evil in the world.

etm567
12th March 2012, 23:47
That's not the real picture! That's a photoshopped one. She was showing just one leg. Honestly... Some folks here will just accept anything? Does it make any sense at all that Jolie would pose like that?

ETM

nearing
13th March 2012, 00:09
You are the master curator of hot news packaging Jacovesk. Respect. Sensational post.
I am rudely awakened again.

So, so tragic that this perspective will just be dismissed by a larger populace, high on the Jolie diet.
She is a powerful meme, and what was that leg thing about!??
http://hurricanevanessa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Picture-616.png

Photoshopped or not, the result is that she looks like Baphomet.

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/76/bullsik_baphomet.jpg

CdnSirian
13th March 2012, 00:23
I am so sick of successful women getting trashed.

songsfortheotherkind
13th March 2012, 00:33
I am so sick of successful women getting trashed.

I saw this comment on the side bar of the main page, which is why I came back into this thread. I heartily endorse this comment and the sentiments expressed therein- because, you know, all ultrathin women are vampires and hags, all fat women are vampires and hags, all old women are crones, hags and black art practicing witches- and if they aren't then they wish they were, all young women are brainless whores if they're not subjecting themselves to some other standard of the dominant paradigm...

globalisations and generalisations. Aren't they just the solid, good ole fashioned core that the world turns on? J Edgar would be *so* proud. Combine this with the 'female illuminati' thread and Lilit's original disgust with 'subjection' seems rather pertinent today from all these eons ago...

cloud9
13th March 2012, 00:34
As far as I know, Angelina and Brad Pitt are good people who try to help others. Brad Pitt has been working in New Orleans helping to build houses for homeless people and he has given high sums of money. I really don't understand this, I think trashing people's reputations is not something I'm pleased with.

songsfortheotherkind
13th March 2012, 00:42
[QUOTE=king anthony;446702]After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?


Yup, because I don't know *anyone*, myself included, that isn't infected to one degree or another with the mind virus, particularly those who aren't actively addressing it within themselves, so I guess the only thing to do is exterminate the entire species from the face of the planet and the Universe, and chalk it up to 'oh well, that one didn't work'. *shrug*

I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break "at the mention of INSERT Something beyond the known"........

......*This* is evolution? The name calling, the hysteria, the hyperbole? So, no humanitarian efforts, *anywhere*, because they're ALL tainted (the Cabal is *every*where, all the time, in everything), so no interventions are possible, must leave the warring factions in such countries to their sovereign right to exterminate one another, no outside perspectives can/will be tolerated, it's the individual's sovereign right to slice off their daughter's external genitals because any intervention will be tainted by the Cabal, no matter what *anyone* does or believes, if it's not firmly embedded in the conspiracy world then they're ALL WORKING WILLINGLY FOR THE CABAL... *lynchlynchlynch*

ugh. Ugh. I'm not going to visit any of these threads from now on, they most definitely are not where I want my evolution to be going- just ignore my intrusion.

Dear songsfortheotherkind,
Thanks so much for your words. One of the traps well intentioned people fall into in Idealism is to make a bargain with the demon, believing the END justifies the means. I want to post a link to Paul Levy

http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/84778


Forbes laments, "One of the tragic characteristics of the wetiko psychosis is that it spreads partly by resistance to it. That is, those who try to fight wetikos sometimes, in order to survive, adopt wetiko values. Thus, when they ‘win,' they lose, or at least, the people lose."[xxvi] When we see people who are taken over by wetiko and we feel superior to them, our feeling of superiority is itself a symptom of the disease. If we unconsciously react against wetiko, having judgement, anger, hatred, etc., we are then acting out, however well-intentioned, the same process of shadow projection that underlies the wetiko disease in the first place - which is to dissociate from, project outside of ourselves, and react to our own evil. We are then unconsciously reacting to the unconscious part of ourselves which the wetikos embody. This re-action is an unconscious ritualistic invocation and re-enactment of the initial impulse within ourselves of turning away from and contracting against a part of ourselves. This is the timeless, primal act which called forth and spawned the spirit of wetiko in the first place. To the extent we are unaware of what we are doing, we, as ‘reps' for wetiko, are compulsively re-enacting our trauma, participating in re-creating the wetiko virus in this very moment. We are then playing out our unresolved internal affairs in the outside world by, in and through our reaction, unwittingly becoming a vector that is carrying the wetiko bug out into the world (please see my article, Triggered by Evil). Instead of unconsciously reacting and projecting the shadow outside of ourselves, when we consciously relate to and take responsibility for the evil within ourselves, we are energetically withdrawing and dis-investing from our complicity in the continual re-animation of evil in the world.

I have no idea of the intention of this quote you posted. Are you pointing it at me specifically, at the subject in general, at *waves hands* just *some*thing? Because any response I might make to that quote is specific to the context in which it was posted.

gooty64
13th March 2012, 00:46
I have never seen a Jolie movie. I saw 2 Pitt movies in the 90's Thelma and Louise and A River Runs Through It, in both movies Pitt plays a sociopath.

Then I stopped watching the programming.

jackovesk
13th March 2012, 01:19
Our Secret Soldiers in Africa :spy:

March 13, 2012

A SECRET squadron of Australian SAS soldiers has been operating at large in Africa, performing work normally done by spies, in an unannounced and possibly dangerous expansion of Australia's foreign military engagement.

The deployment of the SAS's 4 Squadron - the existence of which has never been publicly confirmed - has put the special forces unit at the outer reaches of Australian and international law.

The Herald has confirmed that troopers from the squadron have mounted dozens of secret operations during the past year in various African nations, including Zimbabwe, Nigeria and Kenya.

http://images.smh.com.au/2012/03/12/3121599/ipad-art-wide-1_WarAus-420x0.jpg

They have been out of uniform and not accompanied by Australian Secret Intelligence Service officers with whom undercover SAS forces are conventionally deployed.

It is believed the missions have involved gathering intelligence on terrorism and scoping rescue strategies for Australian civilians trapped by kidnapping or civil war.

But the operations have raised serious concerns within the Australian military and intelligence community because they involve countries where Australia is not at war.

There are also concerns within the SAS that the troopers do not have adequate legal protection or contingency plans should they be captured. ''They have all the espionage skills but without [ASIS's] legal cover,'' said one government source. In a comment relayed to government officials, one soldier said: ''What happens if we get caught?''

A professor at Australian National University, Hugh White, a former deputy secretary of Defence, said: ''[Such an operation] deprives the soldier of a whole lot of protections, including their legal status and in a sense their identity as a soldier. I think governments should think extremely carefully before they ask soldiers to do that.''

Despite the dangers, the then foreign affairs minister Kevin Rudd last year asked for troopers from 4 Squadron to be used in Libya during the conflict. His plan was thwarted by opposition from the Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, and the Chief of the Australian Defence Force, General David Hurley. Mr Smith and General Hurley declined to be interviewed for this story.

SAS 4 Squadron is based in Victoria, at Swan Island in Port Phillip Bay, a high-security facility that has doubled in size in the past decade, in part to accommodate the new squadron.

The squadron was formally raised in 2005 by the Howard government but the Herald has learnt that its intelligence-focused role was authorised in late 2010 or early 2011 by Mr Smith.

The SAS is at the forefront of gender change in the Australian military, with six female soldiers being trained in the US for their work with 4 Squadron.

Collecting intelligence overseas without using violence is the main function of ASIS, which was created in 1952 but not officially acknowledged until 1977.

Since the mid-1980s, ASIS has been refused permission to carry weapons or use violence but in 2004 the Howard government amended legislation to allow officers weapons for self-defence and to participate in violent operations provided they did not use force.

It was about that time that the creation of the fourth SAS squadron was authorised, to be an elite version of bodyguards and scouts for ASIS intelligence officers.

The African operations by 4 Squadron initially centred on possible rescue scenarios for endangered Australian citizens, such as the freelance journalist Nigel Brennan who was held by Somali rebels.

The soldiers have also assessed African border controls, explored landing sites for possible military interventions and assessed local politics and security.

ASIS officers are legally permitted to carry false Australian passports and, if arrested, can deny by whom they are employed. Defence Force members on normal operations cannot carry false identification or deny which government they work for.

While the SAS has worked alongside Australia's intelligence agencies for decades, the creation of a dedicated squadron mirrors the US model in which the military and intelligence services have forged much closer links.

That close relationship has resulted in the growing importance of the US's Joint Special Operations Command whose soldiers killed the al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden last year.

Some staff at the ADF's special operations command see 4 Squadron detracting from what they believe is the main effort - the war in Afghanistan and the counterterrorism teams on the east and west coasts of Australia, manned by soldiers from the 2nd Commando Regiment and the SAS respectively.

Others argue it is vital to Australia's contribution to the US fight against al Qaeda - particularly in the Horn of Africa where in recent years the US military and intelligence agencies have sharpened their focus.

US intelligence believes that many second-tier al-Qaeda fighters and leaders from Afghanistan and Pakistan have fled there. The intelligence gathered by the Australian soldiers in countries such as Kenya flows into databases used by the US and its allies in Africa.

Australia's security service, ASIO, is increasingly concerned by the domestic threat posed by the Somali Islamist terrorist group al-Shabaab. ASIO has concerns a group within Australia's growing Somali community is sending money to al-Shabaab.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/secret-sas-teams-hunt-for-terrorists-20120312-1uwhy.html#ixzz1oxIFFaA1

PS - Thanks Angelina & Kony 2012 for (Acting as a Smokescreen & the Psyop) helping us to clear a path for an Africom Invasion...:thumb:

ghostrider
13th March 2012, 01:32
it erkks me , that so called celebrities think because they act in movies, what they have to say carries more weight than what real working people have to say.... you have to be a maniac to think more killing will stop killing... the only way to stop killing is just STOP KILLING.

jackovesk
13th March 2012, 06:57
I am so sick of successful women getting trashed.


As far as I know, Angelina and Brad Pitt are good people who try to help others. Brad Pitt has been working in New Orleans helping to build houses for homeless people and he has given high sums of money. I really don't understand this, I think trashing people's reputations is not something I'm pleased with.

I'm sick of successful women & men who lend their name to and support War & Genocide...

I'm sick & tired of sucessful women working for the PTW, UN & CFR...

I'm not sure whether you know it or not, but Brangelina were both interviewed on (Australian TV - 60 Minutes?) and said they were both going to retire from acting in 3 years...

That will give Brad some more time to look after the Kids, whilst Angelina working in tandem with the UN, NATO & CFR is out there killing them...:yes4:

Maybe you guys know more than I do, but in case you don't..?

Feel free to do some research on the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) & UN (United Nations) & NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) a Military Alliance (Responsible for over 70% of the World's Defence spending) that was a key player in Bosnian, Kosovo, Afghanistan, IRAQ & Lybian Wars that collectively have Killed & Mamed Millions of people..!

UN = NATO = CFR

Yeh, I'm sick & tired alright..!

PS - If you don't want to listen to me, maybe this young Ugandan descendent may help convince you that Angelina Jolie and those like her are on the wrong Bus (NWO/PTW Bus)..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y&feature=player_embedded

Maia Gabrial
13th March 2012, 19:09
Zebra,
Actually, my take on that picture is that it's a vulgar guesture at everyone. It's much like a middle finger. I'm sure you can guess what she pointing at everyone....

Delight
13th March 2012, 19:33
[QUOTE=songsfortheotherkind;446755][QUOTE=jorr lundstrom;446735][QUOTE=king anthony;446702]After Angelina Jolie... how many more!?



I have no idea of the intention of this quote you posted. Are you pointing it at me specifically, at the subject in general, at *waves hands* just *some*thing? Because any response I might make to that quote is specific to the context in which it was posted.

It was not directed at you personally? Sorry if that was not clear that it was not about any persons but about a tendency. I am not sure what was said to seem I did mean you or any one here. But I did insert something to your quote to take it from one "subject" to any subject that may "break" the brain when one first is made aware.


I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break "at the mention of INSERT Something beyond the known"........

People take our projections of whatever we cannot accept and digest of our own and this forum actually shows that again and again. If the behvior is just not what we would do, we just ignore it. When there is outrage and the desire to attack, that is absolutely a function of the wetiko (or ny name you choose that is he real adversary we face).

My post was directed at the thread and responds to the "complaint" against "them" but if there is any misguided something in "them" to complain about, it responds to the way that we ALL potentially caught up by the inability to work on "problems" where they start. Where they start in the infection which causes projecting out of our internal trauma elsewhere and then perpetuates the trauma cycle. That cycle works to no advantage except the perpetuation of the virus.

firstlook
13th March 2012, 20:35
The issue a lot of people have here is guilt by association. I don't believe that because you talk to people who do bad things that makes you responsible. You have to take the best of people and work with it. Look at this thread, people saying you can't stop killing with more killing (which in the end I agree with) and yet how are you supposed to help solve things if you cannot be associated with the UN and other organizations. The point is whether you have the right ideas or not, most people are working with hat they know. You can't go arresting everyone. Laws are meant to be broken, it depends on whether your making a contribution or not. But remember guilt by association is a dangerous concept. If that were how everyone should be judged, then Alex Jones is a crony of the Big Oil Cartel that murders innocent children. He buys their gas. Throw him in prison.

Its an endless chain of fear. You just got to switch it to seeing the good and adding to it. Its that simple if you can remember it.

Also, as much as people hate to hear it, a lot of the time when people to bad things, they don't know any better. No one thinks they are a evil person. Calling someone that just makes you feel better, like you don't have to think about the complications of peoples choices. And that's OK, its just not very productive or inspiring. Lets Go arrest a mom who does plays in front of a camera. Yeah, that will make me feel like were doing some good. (Sarcasm)

Peace

firstlook
13th March 2012, 20:43
Yeh, I'm sick & tired alright..!


Maybe your sick and tired from all the guilt you carry. There are not Good or Bad people, Just imperfect beings who make good or bad choices. All the people who make up those organizations do not consider themselves evil. I know that can be a hard truth sometimes but its how it is. I will tell you there is more good then bad, but you have to keep supporting the good within those things to help them work WITH the bad. You cannot just Kill and Arrest Everyone. Seriously, its not possible, your wasting useful brain power.

Peace

westhill
13th March 2012, 21:00
Why does a film concerning child soldiers show a montage of the rings of Saturn?
When this is NOT a film about child soldiers (or even Kony).

The film "spells" it out that this is an "experiment" and for it to work "you need to $pay attention."
They are using our mass energy through the social networking to misdirect our attention.
If we were really serious about invisible kids, we'd be investigating the over 700,000 missing here in the US each year.

Look at the logo.
http://childvoiceintl.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kony-2012-take-action1.jpg

An inverted triangle stands for Isis. IC,InC.
Jason's wife's name is Danica, which means Morning Star, Lucifer is the morning star.
"When We Cover the Night" date April 20 has occult meaning...


The Occult View and Numerology of 4/20:
The Occult Holiday requires Blood Sacrifice To “The Beast”, a most critical 13-day period. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19 or 20. April 19 is the first day of the 13-day Satanic ritual day relating to fire and the fire god, Baal, or Molech/Babylon, Amun/Egypt (the Sun God). There are two cosmic factors on April 18th that could empower the occult to cause an occurrence around, or on April 20. This day is a major human sacrifice day, demanding fire sacrifice with an emphasis on children. This day is one of the most important human sacrifice days, and as such, has had some very important historic events occur on this day. The Illuminati Occult considers war to be a most propitious way to sacrifice, for it kills both children and adults.

This goes beyond celebrities like Jolie. It's a fight for how you pay attention and to who or what.

westhill

goinghome2012
13th March 2012, 21:06
stop judging others and forgive, who know what we have done in our past lives.

Forgiveness from the heart is the key.

Trismegistus
14th March 2012, 00:08
I am so sick of successful women getting trashed.



I am so sick of successful women getting trashed.

I saw this comment on the side bar of the main page, which is why I came back into this thread. I heartily endorse this comment and the sentiments expressed therein- because, you know, all ultrathin women are vampires and hags, all fat women are vampires and hags, all old women are crones, hags and black art practicing witches- and if they aren't then they wish they were, all young women are brainless whores if they're not subjecting themselves to some other standard of the dominant paradigm...

globalisations and generalisations. Aren't they just the solid, good ole fashioned core that the world turns on? J Edgar would be *so* proud. Combine this with the 'female illuminati' thread and Lilit's original disgust with 'subjection' seems rather pertinent today from all these eons ago...

I am reticent to be inflammatory as I am so new to the forum but I can't let the above posts go by without sharing my two cents. I think comments like this are indicative of the latent hypocrisy and reactionary tendencies of modern academic feminism. In no way did I sense that Jackovesk or any of the others that question Mrs. Jolie's motives were intending to disparage her because she is a female. There are very obvious reasons to question any ones motives, male or female, when they choose to support the neo-colonial concerns of the UN and NATO in Africa.

In my mind a true philosophy of feminism is based on MUTUAL respect and upliftment. The human being has two aspects, male and female, and even if it were physiologically possible to procreate without one or the other, the race would be far less grand if either one were eradicated or oppressed.

A responsible and healthy culture would do well to celebrate the differences and complimenting strengths of females AND males and in so doing uplift and glorify the best aspects of both. In addition, decrying every questioning word against a woman as misogyny only serves to dis-empower the strong woman in her fight for equal respect.

I realize as a society we still have much to do to ensure women have the respect and equality they deserve, but the knee jerk disparagement of men and the inability to honestly assess the role women have played in building this system only serves to make the oppressed the oppressor.

jaybee
14th March 2012, 00:24
.


Alex Jones....up to his old tricks again.....(and promoted here by one of his adoring fans...:)....the OP)

To divert attention away from the matter in hand.

I mean...just imagine...if the wider public, who are not members of conspiracy forums and so can't have their minds twisted..right left and centre...

Just imagine...if they get a taste for this kind of thing...who might be next?

I can tell you now...it won't be Angelina Jolie.

Maia Gabrial
14th March 2012, 00:28
I wouldn't sign up for this "invisible children" Scam until the US and all of its organizations, UN, CIA, FBI, NSA, Vatican and every global involved agencies get out of the slavery and pedophilia business FIRST!
Damn hypocrites!

Debra
14th March 2012, 00:33
I had no idea it was a photoshop job, until pointed out to me. I missed watching the academy awards this year as I was so busy, and this picture was sent to me. I thought she was having some fun, to be honest, and making fun of herself and sending up the glamour move culture of the red carpet.
Your observation could possibly also have some truth in it Maia :) I wonder if we will ever find out. I later read that she thrust her leg out because she was angry at her stylist for putting her in that dress - apparently she thought it hung like a garbage bag, so made good use of the split and the rest is history ! ;)


Zebra,
Actually, my take on that picture is that it's a vulgar guesture at everyone. It's much like a middle finger. I'm sure you can guess what she pointing at everyone....

Operator
14th March 2012, 00:46
Jason's wife's name is Danica, which means Morning Star, Lucifer is the morning star.
"When We Cover the Night" date Satur(n)day, April 20 has occult meaning...


I am not so much into this stuff ... but I realize that dragging masses of people into "covering the night" would
get them to participate in a mass ceremony that make them witness a dawn of a new day ... :p

DoubleHelix
14th March 2012, 01:00
Seems to fit nicely here -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68GbzIkYdc8&feature=player_embedded

gypsybutterflykiss
14th March 2012, 01:28
Anybody up for a lizard sandwich??


Honestly, I dont care who you are. Famous or not... If you are guilty of hanest crimes you should be sentenced.
Here's the tooth puller though- Those involved and "God" only knows.. If you don't believe in God, when that only meAns you're lying to yourself- no consequences.., especially if one is narstistic or a pathological lier.

Ho hum

Damn those solar flares, eh? Let's just blame those and not take responsibly for our actions and pass the buck onto the sun..
*sigh*

It's been one of those days where I just wished wished I lived in a bubble and was completely ignorant to everything and everyone around me..

*sigh*

Let there be light!!! :)

gypsybutterflykiss
14th March 2012, 01:32
What can I say.. God or no God- karma's a b@/!h!! All in time, lil gypsy. All in time..

goinghome2012
14th March 2012, 01:48
Anybody up for a lizard sandwich??


Honestly, I dont care who you are. Famous or not... If you are guilty of hanest crimes you should be sentenced.
Here's the tooth puller though- Those involved and "God" only knows.. If you don't believe in God, when that only meAns you're lying to yourself- no consequences.., especially if one is narstistic or a pathological lier.

Ho hum

Damn those solar flares, eh? Let's just blame those and not take responsibly for our actions and pass the buck onto the sun..
*sigh*

It's been one of those days where I just wished wished I lived in a bubble and was completely ignorant to everything and everyone around me..

*sigh*

Let there be light!!! :)

who knows maybe you were a war criminal in your past life, let's sentence you now

gypsybutterflykiss
14th March 2012, 02:46
Yes, perhaps I was. I know. I have my past life karma is biting me.. I will not deny that. But- I am aware of my emotions and my actions.. And do my best in this life now.

I feel I frocklicked in the depths of evil in my past, actually- I know I did.
Just to let you know- I have been sentenced. And I live and breathe through those lessons to never be whisped away into darkness again. As you know- history does not run in a straight line. It runs in cycles.

The lord is my Shepard .





Anybody up for a lizard sandwich??


Honestly, I dont care who you are. Famous or not... If you are guilty of hanest crimes you should be sentenced.
Here's the tooth puller though- Those involved and "God" only knows.. If you don't believe in God, when that only meAns you're lying to yourself- no consequences.., especially if one is narstistic or a pathological lier.

Ho hum

Damn those solar flares, eh? Let's just blame those and not take responsibly for our actions and pass the buck onto the sun..
*sigh*

It's been one of those days where I just wished wished I lived in a bubble and was completely ignorant to everything and everyone around me..

*sigh*

Let there be light!!! :)

who knows maybe you were a war criminal in your past life, let's sentence you now

CdnSirian
14th March 2012, 03:49
"I realize as a society we still have much to do to ensure women have the respect and equality they deserve, but the knee jerk disparagement of men and the inability to honestly assess the role women have played in building this system only serves to make the oppressed the oppressor. " This kind of intellectualism, not personal to you, is the stuff that has been slung out there for decades.

Saying that I am sick of successful women getting trashed, has nothing to do with "the knee jerk disparagement of men". In fact, there is nothing referring to that in this entire thread.

songsfortheotherkind
14th March 2012, 04:42
It was not directed at you personally? Sorry if that was not clear that it was not about any persons but about a tendency. I am not sure what was said to seem I did mean you or any one here. But I did insert something to your quote to take it from one "subject" to any subject that may "break" the brain when one first is made aware.


It was an ambiguous context to me, which was why I asked. I wasn't presuming or assuming anything at all, I wanted to clarify because the context was important in considering the reply.


I do not believe that Angelina Jolie is intentionally working to foster the aims of 'the Cabal', just as every individual I meet whose brains break "at the mention of INSERT Something beyond the known"........

People take our projections of whatever we cannot accept and digest of our own and this forum actually shows that again and again. If the behvior is just not what we would do, we just ignore it. When there is outrage and the desire to attack, that is absolutely a function of the wetiko (or ny name you choose that is he real adversary we face).

My post was directed at the thread and responds to the "complaint" against "them" but if there is any misguided something in "them" to complain about, it responds to the way that we ALL potentially caught up by the inability to work on "problems" where they start. Where they start in the infection which causes projecting out of our internal trauma elsewhere and then perpetuates the trauma cycle. That cycle works to no advantage except the perpetuation of the virus.

This is absolutely my perspective when it comes to the wetiko sickness, the collective expression of the mind virus. It's also why I turn away from the majority of the threads- I can't get into that vibration, I know what it is, I don't want to feed it, I don't want to get into it myself. For me there's a profound difference between knowing what's going on and having a response to it internally that *doesn't* feed the virus and finding information, plastering it with mindvirus rhetoric and spores and putting it out carrrying the infection while saying it's a wake up call. I just can't go into places where the energy is the latter: I don't want to pimp the virus so obviously.

songsfortheotherkind
14th March 2012, 05:25
"I realize as a society we still have much to do to ensure women have the respect and equality they deserve, but the knee jerk disparagement of men and the inability to honestly assess the role women have played in building this system only serves to make the oppressed the oppressor. " This kind of intellectualism, not personal to you, is the stuff that has been slung out there for decades.

Saying that I am sick of successful women getting trashed, has nothing to do with "the knee jerk disparagement of men". In fact, there is nothing referring to that in this entire thread.

Ah, don't you just love it (not) when someone responds to a comment with a globalist statement that completely derails the discussion at hand into something utterly different? And construment, we can't forget that useful chestnut. I find this intellectual derailing to be fairly standard practice, particularly when it's applied to discussions regarding one subject, such as the experience of women within a patriarchal system, or whatever, and these sidelines are inserted with absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the discussion. It serves to muddy the focus and can eventually dilute or dissonate things to the point where anything useful can't emerge.

Thanks for calling it out, I for one appreciate it.

modwiz
14th March 2012, 05:48
"I realize as a society we still have much to do to ensure women have the respect and equality they deserve, but the knee jerk disparagement of men and the inability to honestly assess the role women have played in building this system only serves to make the oppressed the oppressor. " This kind of intellectualism, not personal to you, is the stuff that has been slung out there for decades.

Saying that I am sick of successful women getting trashed, has nothing to do with "the knee jerk disparagement of men". In fact, there is nothing referring to that in this entire thread.

Ah, don't you just love it (not) when someone responds to a comment with a globalist statement that completely derails the discussion at hand into something utterly different? And construment, we can't forget that useful chestnut. I find this intellectual derailing to be fairly standard practice, particularly when it's applied to discussions regarding one subject, such as the experience of women within a patriarchal system, or whatever, and these sidelines are inserted with absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the discussion. It serves to muddy the focus and can eventually dilute or dissonate things to the point where anything useful can't emerge.

Thanks for calling it out, I for one appreciate it.

Annoying. ain't it?

14600

Trismegistus
14th March 2012, 06:00
This kind of intellectualism, not personal to you, is the stuff that has been slung out there for decades.

Saying that I am sick of successful women getting trashed, has nothing to do with "the knee jerk disparagement of men". In fact, there is nothing referring to that in this entire thread.

Ah, don't you just love it (not) when someone responds to a comment with a globalist statement that completely derails the discussion at hand into something utterly different? And construment, we can't forget that useful chestnut. I find this intellectual derailing to be fairly standard practice, particularly when it's applied to discussions regarding one subject, such as the experience of women within a patriarchal system, or whatever, and these sidelines are inserted with absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the discussion. It serves to muddy the focus and can eventually dilute or dissonate things to the point where anything useful can't emerge.

Thanks for calling it out, I for one appreciate it.

I wasn't going to respond to CdnSirian because I really didn't want to derail the thread but I feel compelled to reply to songsfortheotherkind. First of all, being intellectual is not an insult or a problem in my world and I fail to see how anyone could find fault with holding oneself to a high standard of critical thinking and grammar.

Secondly, what did you mean by calling my comment 'globalist'? Did you perhaps mean general? As in I made a general, blanket comment? Or did you really mean globalist? Because if you think I support any globalist agenda you are quite mistaken, which could be inferred in my previous post.

Third, it was not my intent to derail the thread and I don't see how CdnSirian's statement of disdain for successful women being trashed (which, as I said before, I don't think was really pertinent to this thread) was anymore on topic than my response. The entire purpose of my response was to add a balancing perspective to a thread discussing a person who deserves to be scrutinized for working so closely with the UN. The UN is not one of the good guys, so it is my opinion that anyone working in conjunction with them deserves questioning.

Edited to add this off topic point: You should not presume to understand my stance on hierarchy and patriarchal systems based on one comment, without knowing me. Your response was reactionary and seems to infer a great deal that is not actually present in my thought process. For your information I think one of the great changes we are experiencing in this world is the reassertion of the divine feminine and with it will come a great BALANCING and will help return us to a more holistic way of living and thinking. That's how I see it, at this point anyway. Now back to the show....

Trismegistus
14th March 2012, 06:26
Annoying. ain't it?

14600

It took me a minute to realize what your picture was about, but I finally got the implication. Haha, good one. I fail to see how my post was troll like behavior, especially as I was responding to off topic posts and trying point out that even women in cahoots with an organization as nefarious as the UN deserves scrutiny. I've been a reader of the Avalon Forums for much longer than I've been a member and I've usually enjoyed your posts so I am sorry I seem to have started off under the bridge with you as a member. By the by, did you read my entire post or just the part that was quoted out of context?

Trolly yours,
Trismegistus

modwiz
14th March 2012, 06:30
Annoying. ain't it?

14600

It took me a minute to realize what your picture was about, but I finally got the implication. Haha, good one. I fail to see how my post was troll like behavior, especially as I was responding to off topic posts and trying point out that even women in cahoots with an organization as nefarious as the UN deserves scrutiny. I've been a reader of the Avalon Forums for much longer than I've been a member and I've usually enjoyed your posts so I am sorry I seem to have started off under the bridge with you as a member. By the by, did you read my entire post or just the part that was quoted out of context?

Trolly yours,
Trismegistus

I hadn't even taken notice of you, so I am clueless of any implication of you. You are nowhere to be found in the post I remarked to. Sorry about not noticing you, but I am only as of this post aware of your existence. In short, I was not addressing you and I never read you post either, that I remember. If I did, it slipped past me.

Trismegistus
14th March 2012, 06:38
I hadn't even taken notice of you, so I am clueless of any implication of you. You are nowhere to be found in the post I remarked to. Sorry about not noticing you, but I am only as of this post aware of your existence. In short, I was not addressing you and I never read you post either, that I remember. If I did, it slipped past me.

Oh haha, I see. It was a post of mine previously in this thread that seems to have rankled songsfortheotherkind and CdnSirian. One line, taken out of context was quoted by CdnSirian in the piece of text you quoted so I assumed you were aware of who they were referencing. My apologies. I'll let the class focus on the topic at hand now.

songsfortheotherkind
14th March 2012, 08:45
[QUOTE=CdnSirian;447998] This kind of intellectualism, not personal to you, is the stuff that has been slung out there for decades.

Saying that I am sick of successful women getting trashed, has nothing to do with "the knee jerk disparagement of men". In fact, there is nothing referring to that in this entire thread.

Ah, don't you just love it (not) when someone responds to a comment with a globalist statement that completely derails the discussion at hand into something utterly different? And construment, we can't forget that useful chestnut. I find this intellectual derailing to be fairly standard practice, particularly when it's applied to discussions regarding one subject, such as the experience of women within a patriarchal system, or whatever, and these sidelines are inserted with absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the discussion. It serves to muddy the focus and can eventually dilute or dissonate things to the point where anything useful can't emerge.

Thanks for calling it out, I for one appreciate it.


I wasn't going to respond to CdnSirian because I really didn't want to derail the thread but I feel compelled to reply to songsfortheotherkind. First of all, being intellectual is not an insult or a problem in my world and I fail to see how anyone could find fault with holding oneself to a high standard of critical thinking and grammar.

There is a marked difference between intellectual and intellectualism. If you had read anything of mine previous to this you would have discovered that not only to I have a high standard of both grammar and critical *and other* thinking, I am highly intelligent and happen to live with another Being who is a genius; we both have higher than genius level IQs, we both think IQs are nothing more than the ability to do well on IQ tests, we have no issue with intelligence or even intellect- intellectualism, however, is generally either energetically empty or openly destructive. You appear to have made a great leap of assumption about my Self, my perspectives, my abilities and the point I was making, all of which are actually incorrect.


Secondly, what did you mean by calling my comment 'globalist'? Did you perhaps mean general? As in I made a general, blanket comment? Or did you really mean globalist? Because if you think I support any globalist agenda you are quite mistaken, which could be inferred in my previous post. If I had meant general, I would have used that word; what I was was 'globalist', as in globalising, as in turning something into a global, all encompassing something else that was a diversion from the topic the poster was discussing. It's an intellectualism trick, one that I have observed in many, many contexts, having grown up in a household of highly intelligent yet spiritually void Beings who used their intellectualism to keep any kind of spiritual progression at bay.

I am not suggesting that you are such an individual. I am saying that I have seen those 'changing the context/topic' comments employed and seen the outcome- the discussion gets caught in an Escher like loop wherein nothing truly useful or energetically transformative can happen: each attempt is met with another 'well, what about THIS?' remark and the discussion is drained of energy.


Third, it was not my intent to derail the thread

derailing a thread and derailing the discussion at hand (which may be a subset happening within the thread) are two different things. I did not suggest that you were derailing the thread. You may have no idea how it is that the comment you made was subverting the intention and purpose of the poster's remark; regardless of your awareness level, that's what intellectualism does- it's an endless loop of 'can't really get to anything', a favorite I've observed within the domain of university students. Good Will Hunting has a fantastic scene pointing up this behaviour.


and I don't see how CdnSirian's statement of disdain for successful women being trashed (which, as I said before, I don't think was really pertinent to this thread) was anymore on topic than my response. Part of the foundation for the attack on the woman concerned was a) her success as an actress b) her work as a director/producer/writer c) her appearance and weight d) her choice of partner e) her political and world views f) her adopted children and g) other personal parameters I can't be bothered watching that awful video, or reading related information again to be specific about. I feel the ones I've mentioned are sufficient to establish the point I am making. In order to give weight to the accusations made against her all kinds of 'supportive evidence' was trotted out, which had more to do with the bias of the accuser than the woman concerned. It is on this basis that I personally agreed with CdnSirian regarding the 'trashing', seeing it as entirely on point. Very little was being put forward, other than her association with organisations that aren't what they purport to be, and a general leery reading into her public comments- not to mention dragging the Photoshop dribble into it.


The entire purpose of my response was to add a balancing perspective to a thread discussing a person who deserves to be scrutinized for working so closely with the UN. How many individuals work for the UN? Hundreds? Thousands? Are these minions all well versed in the evil machinations of the organisation they're working for? Or is it actually possible that, like the several billion other Beings going about on this planet oblivious to the deeper machinations of the organisations they're working for, these individuals actually might think that they're helping the world, given the context and perspective of their understanding?

There are individuals on this board who have, as their signatures, open endorsements for particular political candidates. Why are these individuals not being castigated? Why are they not being accused of openly and intentionally supporting the Cabal? However, should said individuals somehow become *famous* THEN all bets are off and they are obviously involved right up to the eyeballs in being privy to the whole scheme and are faithful supporters. It's disingenuous to say that one obvious supporter of the Cabal is less responsible than another because of the degree of fame or whether they are working publicly to support the purported aims of such organisations.

I've met individuals that had very, VERY high profile international banking careers and had NO IDEA of the game that was being played until *after* they left and started on the road to 'discovery'. Do you think the average bank teller has ANY IDEA that money isn't actually *real*? Try handing one a Bill of Exchange and see what happens- instant brainmelt. My point is to highlight the ludicrous suggestion that *everyone is in on the secret*, like that ridiculous video that tried to insist that David Icke and Richard Branson are the same man- conspiracy, conspiracy is everywhere!

Wouldn't it have been far better to discover the six degrees of separation thing between here and Angelina and done some quiet checking in? Even some open dialogue, offering her the evidence that is causing concern and asking her to comment on it or engage in a discussion? Nooooooooo, Plan B, the Inquisition Approach is the best method! And the awakening community is supposed to be leading the charge in the evolution/critical thinking stakes? With this sort of behaviour? 0-o


The UN is not one of the good guys, so it is my opinion that anyone working in conjunction with them deserves questioning. and this includes EVERYone, yes? The cleaners, the typists,all the minions that are keeping the wheels of the grindhouse turning, and they are JUST as important. It's a big list. Is Alex Jones going to start publishing shame pictures of every individual who works for the UN, call for their immediate arrest and insult their appearance? Because that would be consistent with the assertions and rhetoric.


Edited to add this off topic point: You should not presume to understand my stance on hierarchy and patriarchal systems based on one comment, without knowing me. I am intrigued as to where you perceived I was in any way doing any such thing. Is it because I mentioned the patriarchy word in my response? My response was based on the widespread occurence of this sort of intellectualism, which I have *personally* experienced in discussion based on such things as I mentioned. It was not directed at you. Perhaps asking me if this had been the case would have been useful, as I would have been able to clear the confusion easily. It was not aimed at your personally. It was a *general* comment, as was my whole response, the topic of which was the irritation of intellectualism.


Your response was reactionary subjective analysis


and seems to infer a great deal that is not actually present in my thought process. supposition based on subjective interpretation of erroneous presumption. Things get really messy in that world. *nods*


For your information I think one of the great changes we are experiencing in this world is the reassertion of the divine feminine and with it will come a great BALANCING and will help return us to a more holistic way of living and thinking. That's how I see it, at this point anyway. Now back to the show....

Thanks for that sharing of your perspective, I appreciate knowing it, although I never suggested anything to the contrary. This rising of the feminine is something I also experience and work towards in my own life for exactly the reasons- and others- you mentioned. it's a wonderful energy to be playing in, that's for sure.

I hope this helps clarify things.

(the 'Le Sigh' I have removed was from an earlier part of the post, not this discussion)