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Debra
4th May 2012, 17:47
Thanks for letting us know Bob. I hope Maizie has some relief soon. Sending her extra love! You too, friend. Congratulations on squashing those tumours - you have done well.

Easier times I wish you for you both.

Zebra xx

Borden
4th May 2012, 18:01
Thank you for letting us know this, Bob, and we are all wishing you and Mazie strength and grace to get through this ordeal of a time.

Cerridwen
4th May 2012, 18:41
Yes, thank you for letting us know whats going on with the two of you, Bob. I'm so happy to hear that your tumors are now benign. I will continue to send Mazie lots of love and strength.

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 00:40
http://www.healinglight.ie/assets/upload_files/files/13340/original/HealingHandse029.jpg?1289998152

http://forums-gfx.tarot.com/e3e0fdc7f43b35c2c73194f219f1f0c5.jpg


On a practical level, transdermal magnesium oil is one of the most powerful painkillers I have come across- oral magnesium just doesn't get absorbed. I also tune the water into a painkiller when my pain is bad; it works to tune all the water in my body as well. I have been able to completely do away with heavy duty codeine with these two things; perhaps they can be of some small assistance to Maizie also. The two of you are in the thoughts of all in the Pub.

A Simple Human
5th May 2012, 00:43
Is it just me or does the general forum sometimes seem like the meeting in Pee Wee's basement.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tx8jnndMes&feature=related

Thank you for sharing this, CurtisW. Not only did this video clip bring me back to my youth for a moment, but it also made me laugh as I feel it is quite apropos. :biggrin1:

A.S.H.

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 00:49
http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swfbin/watch_as3-vfl3Xv_kR.swf


from this site here, which also has some information-

http://www.finerminds.com/happiness/the-power-of-introverts-susan-cain/

The Pub and its patrons are basically the only individuals I interact with, apart from a tiny circle of Beings here in my physical world. I am an introvert, my partners are almost always introverts, and my two youngest daughters are extroverts.

0-o

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 02:37
http://barbarasclub.com/how-to-get-what-you-really-want/

I love this woman's work, because I'm a skimmer. There is a lot to be mined in understanding the difference between skimmers and divers. I love the full title of this mini-course: How To Get What You Really Want (even if you have no goals, no character and are often in a lousy mood).

I really enjoy her approach to the mind set of skimmers, those who look like they can't stick with one thing because they actually can't. It would be fun to have a discussion around skimmers: a lot of those who are here to do Big Things have been hamstrung by the many tricks of the dominant paradigm that is designed to cripple the abilities of those who carry within them some major Power of creativity and transformation. I'm going to share some of Barbara's perspective here at the Pub because as far as it goes for me, I'm ready to do something way more interesting than what I've been doing so far. I want to look at- and then toss away- the things that have been parping away in my head and stopping me from doing the things that I want to do, living the way I want to live, being as much as I know I can be.

Things have happened for me in the past 24 hours that have had measurable impact on me. I will write about those but not yet- my house badly needs cleaning and I have a 14 year old daughter to go pick up this afternoon and that's a 140 k round trip. I need to get order around me again, so I'll do that while my backbrain is processing the new information that's flooding through me.

I've been walking for a long time to get back here- yet it happened in nothing more than the right moment.

http://www.ancienthealings.net/uploads/1/3/8/6/1386158/1320543122.jpg

http://www.photographyblog.com/images/sized/images/uploads/Wave-550x384.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 12:28
This is a piece of writing written by my not quite 14 year old daughter when she was about 12 1/2.

This is the sort of family that we are. I wanted to share some of her with you all.

****************

I shut my eyes, and open my imagination. The world around me is new, or so old it has been reborn. The creatures that only exist within me swirl and dance about my twisting into the open sky, that burns with three flaming moons. The stars shift and dance above me forming and breaking nebulas and galaxies, so close I can almost feel them brush across my cheek. They reflect in my wide, shimmering eyes as I try to implant their image into my mind. I breath in the scent of the air. It smells... Like home.


The girl from my dreams steps up onto the blue tinged grass with her forever bare feet. The perfect smile that I have come to know is presented, as she welcomes me back. But the sadness in her eyes shows that she already knows I can't stay for long.

Not yet.


My soul appears beside me, and whispers with its flames. I am home. There is no other place, not anywhere else I come from.


We dive into the sky and burst through the breaking waves of the sea in my heart. Burning our lungs with the salt, and stinging our eyes, trying to hide our tears.

We land again, and I know I must leave. I can never stay. The thing with my world is that it is in me, but I can't stay in it. It is my eternal torture. To be so close, yet not to be able to touch.


The girl turns and presses us together, I feel her heart break again. I don't know who she is, but she wont let me be. I break apart from her and lunge into the sky, break through the atmosphere, and leave.


I open my eyes, and look about, tasting my own sadness as I breath in the bitter air once again. My friends turn to me, but it does not comfort me. I am already preparing to leave again.

To go home.

Noah-Lilli, 2011

Calz
5th May 2012, 13:00
This is a piece of writing written by my not quite 14 year old daughter when she was about 12 1/2.

This is the sort of family that we are. I wanted to share some of her with you all.

****************



Nice.

Thanks for sharing that Songstress.

My 10 year old is more of an artist than a writer although he likes doing both in creating "comic book" style stories. Here is something he drew about a year ago:



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Eram
5th May 2012, 13:23
[IMG]On a practical level, transdermal magnesium oil is one of the most powerful painkillers I have come across- oral magnesium just doesn't get absorbed. I also tune the water into a painkiller when my pain is bad; it works to tune all the water in my body as well. I have been able to completely do away with heavy duty codeine with these two things; perhaps they can be of some small assistance to Maizie also. The two of you are in the thoughts of all in the Pub.

To my knowledge there are lots of magnesium supplements (which one takes orally) that do get absorbed.
It just needs to be bound to another substance like -taurine or -glycinate.
It's my experience that it does a bit work as a painkiller.

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 13:28
Nice.

Thanks for sharing that Songstress.

My 10 year old is more of an artist than a writer although he likes doing both in creating "comic book" style stories. Here is something he drew about a year ago

He has the eye for the anime style, that's for sure: two of my sons drew, the youngest rang me today to tell me that he's enrolled in Australia's premier academy for training computer game designers and programmers. He is also, at 17, rapidly making a name for himself as a knife craftsman; he has the craftsman's eye for detail. It's amazing, watching the creativity in them spring out in all directions- the hardest part seems to be holding the space for them to simply keep springing and exploring, to keep out the insidious drain of the paradigm that leeches out all the bright possibility and replaces it with a grim illusion called reality.

Thanks for sharing his art- I'll try to find an online example of my son's knife craft and post it here. My 21 year old has recently re-discovered his passion for fire twirling and martial arts/gymnastics; one of my reasonings about moving closer to where the kids all are is that I can support them in playing with their interests, rather than buckling beneath the demands to 'pick something and stick to it', which my entire family sucks at except my partner- he knows his passion and talent and his ability to be enthusiastic every day about the thing he's been enthusiastic about for the past 15 years intrigues and puzzles me no end. :P

Mad Hatter
5th May 2012, 14:05
*plants tongue firmly in cheek*

But but but....if we don't keep eating cows there will be more cows....
and if there are more cows there will be more methane laden cow farts....
and if there are more methane laden cow farts the atmosphere might explode.....
and we'll all be doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed i tell's ya doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed !!!

PS much love to all those in need and even those who don't...

PSS is it just me or do the flora of the general fora seem in desparate need of fauna since at the moment any fatuous flatulance will seemingly suffice? :p

*wanders away scratching one of his heads*

songsfortheotherkind
5th May 2012, 14:10
To my knowledge there are lots of magnesium supplements (which one takes orally) that do get absorbed.
It just needs to be bound to another substance like -taurine or -glycinate.
It's my experience that it does a bit work as a painkiller.

The level of magnesium I'm absorbing transdermally I could never ever get orally. My osteo is the one who got me onto it and she was telling me the difference it has made in her life; she was taking large doses orally of high quality magnesium and her migraine/cluster headaches were so severe that she ended up flying to a specialist in the States to seek relief from them as they were crippling her. Since she began the transdermal magnesium she has not had a single migraine or cluster headache and a whole host of other issues- physical *and* not- have disappeared. She uses it every morning and every few days has a bath with magnesium flakes added. There are so many benefits that I've experienced since using the magnesium oil that I'm buying bigger bottles of it and starting to spray my daughters as well; I'm also getting their iodine levels tested and seeing if anything needs to be done about that, *before* the problems start. Here in Australia the ignorance surrounding iodine and thyroid function is boggling- had I had a practitioner that understood it a few years ago I would not have progressed to the point I have now. I'm still in the range of 'don't panic' and it's been hellish- I don't want to think about what kind of state I would have had to be in before the doctors actually started paying attention to my rising blood markers. I'm so glad I've found someone who knows what they're doing- it's nice to wake up without 15-30 minutes of agony while I get my body used to moving again, which is something I could not achieve on the expensive oral mag.

Hurrah for finding things that work. :D

Calz
5th May 2012, 14:24
*plants tongue firmly in cheek*

But but but....if we don't keep eating cows there will be more cows....
and if there are more cows there will be more methane laden cow farts....
and if there are more methane laden cow farts the atmosphere might explode.....
and we'll all be doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed i tell's ya doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed !!!

PS much love to all those in need and even those who don't...

PSS is it just me or do the flora of the general fora seem in desparate need of fauna since at the moment any fatuous flatulance will seemingly suffice? :p

*wanders away scratching one of his heads*

Donning my *Mad Cow* hat ... I will share something interesting I heard just yesterday watching the lastest DVD from James Gilliland.

He said shortly after his near death experience at age 25 he was having a real hard time "staying in 3d" and received word from a high level source that he needed to do three things to become more grounded:

1) Go barefoot more.

2) Have sex.

3) Eat meat.


Take that for what you will. As Songsie points out everyone is different and our "earth suits" have different needs at different times.


http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-threatens-you-with-mad-cow-disease.jpg

Borden
5th May 2012, 14:33
A long time ago I used to allow myself to have conversations with people who wanted to know why I don't eat cows, and who wanted to assert the correctness and sense of eating cows. 'What would we do with all the cows?' ... 'God put the animals here for us to eat' ... 'we're predators'. These were some of the dazzling genius grenades that would be hurled at me. The sublime moment of epiphany was never reached. It never could be. I once even heard, 'where do you think 'your' hamburgers come from?' Said with an air of intellectual victory.

The irony of justifying cow use and abuse with the argument of superior intelligence is one wholly lost on he who attempts it.

PurpleLama
5th May 2012, 14:35
This is a piece of writing written by my not quite 14 year old daughter when she was about 12 1/2.

This is the sort of family that we are. I wanted to share some of her with you all.

****************



Nice.

Thanks for sharing that Songstress.

My 10 year old is more of an artist than a writer although he likes doing both in creating "comic book" style stories. Here is something he drew about a year ago:



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Yep, that's Vegeta, from Dragon Ball Z. We watched the very episodes that image was taken from just a few nights aga, in fact.

PurpleLama
5th May 2012, 14:41
I have been shouting from the rooftops:

Atomidine!

Atomidine!

I have been taking it this week, for the first time, and the results have been outstanding every aspect of energy has been steadily increasing.

meeradas
5th May 2012, 14:59
the last 'cow thing' i could accept

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16138&d=1336151188

Mad Hatter
5th May 2012, 15:23
magnesium oil

Thanks for the heads up on this peeps...thats at least five people connected to my life that you will have helped....

PurpleLama
5th May 2012, 16:23
the last 'cow thing' i could accept

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16138&d=1336151188

A cousin of mine sent me this very comic, last week.

onawah
5th May 2012, 16:28
I've found that if I'm feeling ungrounded and craving meat, small, occasional portions of free range organic chicken or turkey suffices very well.
Maybe one whole chicken in a month's time, or 1-2 lbs of ground, free range turkey will do it for me.
The animal lover in me hates it that my body still needs this at times (usually in winter months), but I am happy with the progress I have made over a lifetime, growing up in a family of meat eaters, eating meat on average at least once a day, and feeling like an addict needing a fix when I couldn't have it at least that often.
I was a primarily live food vegan for about 5 years and felt great, but it was a difficult discipline for me to maintain in my present circumstances, so I went back to lacto-vegetarian, my diet of choice for most of my adult life.
Eating organic and when possible, raw and/or fermented dairy foods feels good.
Making my own raw milk kefir is an important recent addition to my diet.
Dawn's thread has some great info at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43548-The-gut-of-most-disease...-NOT-what-you-think-
I've been ingesting about a pound of fresh aloe vera per day to keep inflammation under control for a long time, and that would probably be helpful for rheumatoid arthritis.
Aloe is great for so many things.
I don't recommend the bottled stuff, but there is a new product now that is freeze dried that I've heard is really good (I'm going to try it one day.)
There's some very good info about the benefits of aloe vera here:
http://www.jonbarron.org/immunity/barron-report-aloe-immune-system-boosters?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Alerts&utm_content=DHT+Aloe+Vera+5%2F4%2F12
I can recommend the nutritional info and product line from Jon Barron.

Debra
5th May 2012, 17:38
I've found that if I'm feeling ungrounded and craving meat, small, occasional portions of free range organic chicken or turkey suffices very well.
Maybe one whole chicken in a month's time, or 1-2 lbs of ground, free range turkey will do it for me.
The animal lover in me hates it that my body still needs this at times (usually in winter months), but I am happy with the progress I have made over a lifetime, growing up in a family of meat eaters, eating meat on average at least once a day, and feeling like an addict needing a fix when I couldn't have it at least that often.


Programmed consumption, this reminds me of. I slip still, but I am consciously working on it. I was really inspired by this chef - american Matthew Kenney, who was raised to hunt - and was one of the top chefs in the french tradition in the world. However, he has come to link meat eating with diseases that kill hundreds of thousand every year. Now his kitchens are raw ..

_MT5zE5plno

I really want to know how you take raw aloe flesh onawah .. and a pound a day as well? What do you suggest?

Debra
5th May 2012, 17:44
Calz and Songs .. you must be so proud of your children. Songs, your daughter is a chip off the old block, she is a writer too. The same for your son Calz, his image has an energy signature, so like his Dad :)

I will think a little before I post some examples from my children. I love their expressions, obviously - and they arrive in surprising ways, no exception.

Debra
5th May 2012, 17:53
For when you are too lazy to go into the forest for a picnic ..
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onawah
5th May 2012, 18:23
You can buy aloe leaves for consumption at many Mexican markets by the pound, but what I do is buy about 33 lbs per month from Aloe Labs in Harlingen Texas, and have it shipped. It's about $47 total currently. Most of the cost is in the shipping, and UPS prices fluctuate.
To buy from Aloe Labs, you have to purchase at least 25 lbs.
These leaves are large, from 1-2 or more lbs. each, and are specifically for consumption. Aloe Labs mostly sells to big companies that bottle the gel, but if you want to order as an individual consumer, you can call Mike Hernandez at 800 258 5380 and he will fix you up. Tell him Natalie sent you.
The leaves will keep for a month or so without refrigeration if kept cool, dry and well ventilated. In the summer months, if you don't use AC, you can just train a fan on them.
I have shelving that is similar to stacks of metal cages, and I store the leaves in that, placing them so that they don't touch each other, which gives lots of ventilation.
To prepare, I just trim off the prickly edges on both sides of a leaf, then peel off the skin from one side, exposing the gel, which I then scoop into a blender with some fruit juice.
You don't want to scrape too close to the skin, which is very bitter, and be careful of the juice getting on clothing or porous countertops, as it stains.
In this form there is a lot of bio-available oxygen and with our depleted levels of oxygen on the planet at this time, that is a real boon.
Keeping the intestinal tract well oxygenated is very important for keeping non-beneficial bacteria in check.
And anything that prevents inflammation as well as aloe does is a great preventative measure for most any degenerative disease.



I really want to know how you take raw aloe flesh onawah .. and a pound a day as well? What do you suggest?

update: I should add that if you don't use a whole leaf up as soon as you cut into it, cover the unused portion in plastic and store in the fridge. It will keep for about a week on average, depending on how fresh it was to begin with. If the gel starts to turn pink, it's beginning to go "off" so use it up quickly, and if it's brown, throw it out.
You have to keep an eye on the leaves while they are being stored and watch for brown, soft spots on the skin. Cut those out and use those leaves up asap. If one goes into full rot, it will liquify and can make quite a mess, "infecting" other leaves as well, so vigilance is important.

Also, it's good to know that a Texan University did a study on AIDS patients whose disease was well advanced, giving them fresh aloe every day with a good diet and exercise, and their symptoms disappeared as long as they followed the protocols.

meeradas
5th May 2012, 23:35
at last i know what to do with the aloe on my balcony

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 02:21
I have been shouting from the rooftops:

Atomidine!

Atomidine!

I have been taking it this week, for the first time, and the results have been outstanding every aspect of energy has been steadily increasing.

I've been looking through the research on this product and noted that it was recommended for all types of arthritis conditions, as well as asthma. I think I'll be getting some of this and giving it a go, thanks Lama. :)

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 04:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5cjfllaDA&ob=av2e

Music from a different time is helping me today. Ultravox and OCMD for the win.

onawah
6th May 2012, 04:18
I've been using Atomidine too, and like it.
Meeradas, not all strains of aloe are good for consumption, though I'm pretty sure all aloe is fine for topical use.
I would research a little further before ingesting the aloe on your balcony.
And I would just take a little at a time to begin with, as it can trigger detoxification, resulting in diarrhea.
For people who are chronically constipated, though, aloe is a lifesaver!

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 09:42
Today has been a day of moving slowly through molasses; I currently have a dreamy and Otherly quality that is leading me to attention focusing spaces.

I've been meditating on and off all day; I had one spell where the poison started rising in me and I took to bed, lying there observing the grasping talons reaching into my body, squeezing my system into panic and toxicity; I let my Self sink into the space and embrace it, consciously expanding in the physical areas that were in distress and being willing to have a conversation with that part of me, willing to hear what it is doing, what it wants.

I drifted through the day, listening to the many voices, my ears and eyes turned inwards as I moved along the bazaar, fingers trailing in information and imagery, picking up ideas and then moving on, the discerning buyer in a dazzling market. Not all shiny things are worth taking home, nor is every trinket the real deal. There is a signal pulsing from my heart chakra and I'm listening to it with interested focus; I want to know the answers to my own questions, the landscape of my own instincts and path.

There is a Being here in the Pub who is quietly observant, who knows how to watch from the shadows and the still spaces, who smells like forests and the sound of sudden laughter and tastes like deep places and starlit moonless nights. I'm mapping his signal to help me remember that space in me, those calmer waters and quieter groves; there is such richness in the circle of Clan here for me, so many different elements and possibilities, so many perspectives to borrow and learn from. I am entranced by the rise of this voice and space n me because I am reminded of things I like to think about, places I like to roam in, energy I like to immerse my Self in.

I have been reminded of the immense power in the full expression of sui generis; I have been exploring new language and concepts that are helping me turn more towards that signal than where I have been. I knew when I started the Pub that I had processes that I wanted to work through and I have been, I really have; I needed to blast my Self out of the encasing rock of useless beliefs and stifling concepts so that I could create the new Self I'm wanting to become. I have shattered off the fear of rejection that had been wrapped around the top of my spinal cord like an Aliens facehugger, that weird part of me that I simply couldn't seem to shake: now I'm more like the motorcycle and bareback horse riding Me than I have been for decades. I'm using a lot of binaural beat frequencies to support the changes and help hold the space; I'm using the magnesium oil, other oils, living on mostly green superfood smoothies and I'm focusing inwards, learning how to use my sui generis compass to navigate through all the noise.

I want to write about that process, but not yet; all this shedding of skins has left me slightly tired and impatient, much like how a snake gets when it is shedding its skin. I am walking in the energy of the Beltane supermoon, navigating the hidden rocks as I'm sailing through the silvered waters so close to the cliffs that sometimes I can reach out and touch them.

I had a metamedicine session last night regarding some of the physical challenges I've been having with the thyroid condition. What came up was a link to the constant sense of 'it doesn't matter what I do, it's never going to be enough, I'm not going to make it' that I've lived with since I can remember. I am working with this internal sense of futility and expanding beyond it to embrace it and let it go; it's not my story. It was actually a really interesting session and brought up some things that I'll put in the next post.

For now, I am mapping deeper stillness and the sound of distant laughter.

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 10:17
Oh, and I think pleonasm is the word you're looking for. :P

Debra
6th May 2012, 11:16
I just learnt something new :nerd:

http://www.pleonasms.com/#o

What an unexpected surprise,
Thankyou ;)

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 12:16
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gzJNgdzjlJY/TYC31a8OK0I/AAAAAAAAE7M/QOYyLjO1hTs/s1600/Inflabitan%2B2010%2BWanderer%2BOf%2BGrief.jpg

Calz
6th May 2012, 13:10
At last ... a way to still the mind ... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/electricf.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/4.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/budo.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/t2.gif


http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/57000/No-Brainer-57238.jpg


http://www.pic4ever.com/images/7AD_headspin.gif

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/5735.gif

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/meditationf.gif

RunningDeer
6th May 2012, 13:12
Calz - My Blue Hero...
Loving Being with gifts of tenacity, compassion, joy-fill & sharing joy, keeping the balance between all, diplomatic, Big Heart, bottomless pocket with photos that transcend the boundaries of words ...

Love,
Paula

xo :wave:

Calz
6th May 2012, 13:24
Calz - My Blue Hero...
Loving Being with gifts of tenacity, compassion, joy-fill & sharing joy, keeping the balance between all, diplomatic, Big Heart, bottomless pocket with photos that transcend the boundaries of words ...

Love,
Paula

xo :wave:

Paula you are way too kind as always. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/thankyou.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mY6ZxQlT8gE/Tj1POAHdMhI/AAAAAAAAEKA/JNfG9VDFIo4/s1600/Smurfs_Wallpaper_Smurfette_And_Shy_Smurf_With_Flowers.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 13:34
At last ... a way to still the mind ...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3a8nDVtKilg/TcQbOJKsZmI/AAAAAAAAAdk/6Gfuund-VM8/s1600/child-flying.jpg

http://morfis.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/magical-creatures-by-sergey-ryzhov.jpg

Mad Hatter
6th May 2012, 14:14
Hmm... maybe we have all lost the ability to feel dizzy... :p

http://images.mynikonlife.com.au/photos/14649/medium/Moonlight_Night.jpg?1292986603

Calz
6th May 2012, 14:26
Hmm... maybe we have all lost the ability to feel dizzy... :p

http://images.mynikonlife.com.au/photos/14649/medium/Moonlight_Night.jpg?1292986603


Perhaps we need to work on that ...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/432324_2745087989786_1335090152_32264538_218782924_n.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ytjsjR1CNaw/TQ6-pr5aCOI/AAAAAAAAACY/M28RDcvBwLs/s1600/Dizzy_Guilty_Gear_by_endscape.jpg

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/picture/TheWheelman/Dizzy.png

Calz
6th May 2012, 17:13
U6tV11acSRk

http://www.maniacworld.com/holding-the-sun.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3528/3904319863_289c78dfd8_z.jpg

http://www.sun-nation.org/Images/holding_sun_1.jpg

http://sciencelinkcafe.com/images/boy_holding_sun.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 22:04
Hmm... maybe we have all lost the ability to feel dizzy... :p

http://images.mynikonlife.com.au/photos/14649/medium/Moonlight_Night.jpg?1292986603

YES! And I love that that photo looks like out West here in Oz. :D

There is something definitely right about the way you've described it- I feel like I'm walking differently, moving differently. I have felt dragons around me for the past year, on and off- now they're here again.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i9m2-XnyFTw/TPkcVLvZ22I/AAAAAAAAAEI/ivuttfxwZEo/s1600/dragonkeeper-new.jpg

This black water dragon year is proving so amazing for this dragon year woman...

songsfortheotherkind
6th May 2012, 22:13
[http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3528/3904319863_289c78dfd8_z.jpg

These photos were just right, Calz.

:)

http://www.tarotcardsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/tarot%20high%20priestess%20meaning.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 00:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1a1QJW7d3-M


This is really interesting...

onawah
7th May 2012, 02:15
You might like this channeled message from James Tyberonn, who is a geologist, metaphysician and sacred tour guide., entitled "Parallels of Omni Earth – The Kingdom of Fae,Elementals, Unicorns & Dragons" at:
http://shiftfrequency.com/james-tyberonn-parallels-of-omni-earth-the-kingdom-of-fae/
I think the being he channels is a good friend to forests, the fae, deep places and ancient and future wisdom.
You can see more of the messages at
http://www.earth-keeper.com/articles.shtml
Here is an excerpt:

Elementals & Divine Intelligence

That which we term the Devic Kingdom, are essentially projected aspects of the elemental, mineral and plant kingdom that find conscious dynamic expression through vehicles of electro-magnetic and crysto-electric energy.

Some Devic forms are more advanced than others. Those of the Fae possess divine intelligence, whilst others of the Devic realm are more like the lower fields of that termed the bird or winged kingdom, in terms of having awareness within a group-thought pattern as opposed to individual consciousness.

The higher intelligence of the Fae will more willingly interact with certain humans, while the majority are less drawn to close communicative interaction, and keep a certain distance…not unlike a sparrow or thrush in ones garden that will fly away if one gets too close.

Not all Devic forms are what you may think of as positive or benevolent in nature. Some are consciousness sourced from electromagnetic fields and as such both positive and negative are required to balance the electrical spectrum you see. Some view mankind as brothers, others do not. Some project the vibratory essence of supreme love, others are somewhat malicious and mischievous, from your perspective. Yet both are electrical l forms of bio-plasmic life, in a manner of speaking.

The Faerie Kingdom is light based elementals generally sourced of air. There are varieties of faeries that are water sourced and plant kingdom sourced. The plant sourced faerie is traditionally referred to in your folklore as pixies and brownies. Both having a very excited positive vibration, often creating a sensation in humans associated with delight and laughter. They are quite real, and exist all over the planet. The Kingdom of Fae tends to mass in areas of higher energy. In those places termed powernodes and sacred sites. But to be clear, such locales are termed sacred and powerful precisely because the dimensional veils are thin in these vectors. All variety of the Fae are particularly drawn to gurgling brooks, small cascades, pools, plants, mushrooms and particularly ferns & flowers.


There is a Being here in the Pub who is quietly observant, who knows how to watch from the shadows and the still spaces, who smells like forests and the sound of sudden laughter and tastes like deep places and starlit moonless nights. I'm mapping his signal to help me remember that space in me, those calmer waters and quieter groves; there is such richness in the circle of Clan here for me, so many different elements and possibilities, so many perspectives to borrow and learn from. I am entranced by the rise of this voice and space n me because I am reminded of things I like to think about, places I like to roam in, energy I like to immerse my Self in.

onawah
7th May 2012, 02:19
Here's more, this section about Dragons:

Dragons, Mer & Unicorns

Masters, what we tell you now may surprise many of you, but the host of etheric beings also includes that you may term the Unicorn, Mer and Dragon. These benevolent and fully conscious beings exist, and are as much a part of your Earth as humanity. They possess supreme divine intelligence and are extremely advanced. They are protectors of humanity and of the planet, and are awakening into greater role in the Cosmic Trigger.

The Mer oft referred to as Mermaids and Mermen are part of the elemental aspect of the Sea and Water Kingdom. These are keepers of the waters and possess Divine Intelligence. Many of you have experienced life in this capacity in the pre duality earth, as we have discussed. These beings are seen by and interact lovingly with the dolphin and whale. But let us be clear, dolphins and whales are physical and highly evolved beings , while the Mer of the higher levels within the elemental matrix, and are non-physical.
Unicorns

Unicorns are conscious ‘Spirit’ projections of both the animal kingdom and human thought, merged in the etherium aspect of the 5 elemental kingdoms. Your indigenous often interacted with evolved conscious forms of the animal kingdom as totems, including the bear, Wolf, Puma and such. The very process of interaction with the overlight group-spirit energy of these of the Animal Kingdom created a very real thought form intersection in which through the mutual intersection of energies, a communicating, very real energy emerged, in etheric form. These are not elemental energies, but exist as very conscious, self aware energies in the anti-matter or ethereal realm.

Because the Unicorn was so focally included in lore in areas of Britain, Ireland and Europe, these forms do indeed independently, consciously exist, particularly in the concentric field energies of Ireland, France and southwest England. This in the same manner that Buffalo Spirit, Eagle Spirit , Bear Spirit, Wolf Spirit and Jaguar Spirit (as well as others) exist in a tangible form in areas of the Americas….areas of sufficient power nodal energy to afford & offer full dimensional- lap spectra projection.

Thought forms do absolutely exist in myriad formats. Your Edgar Cayce once spoke of the thought form of a Shakespearian character, Cassius, attending one of his classes in Virginia Beach, in thought form matrix, quite independently conscious and seeking to learn. Imagine that! While these are not elemental in source, these exist in the same parallel dimensional frequency as elementals.
The Sacred Dragon

The Sacred Dragon are benevolent and fully conscious beings. These do indeed exist, and have existed on the planet long before humanity. They possess supreme divine intelligence and are extremely advanced. They are protectors of humanity and of the planet, and are taking a greater role in the Cosmic Trigger. These beings are Masters of what is termed earth-kundalini and as such are involved in engineering aspects of the aptly named dragon line-currents and ley lines which are in fact arteries of life force on your planet. They are now in a greater role, involved in the formation of new energy lines within the crysto-electromagnetic surge of the Cosmic Trigger, or crystallization expansion of the Ascension into and the Earth-Current Leys.

Have not your cultures throughout the ancient world had legends and stories of these beings, even religions in Asia devoted to their worship. These beings are extremely advanced, and fully conscious, and have existed on the Earth since the beginning. We tell you there are benevolent ‘Angelic Dragons’ are among the Ascended Masters.

Do not confuse these with the concepts in myth and lore of evil dragons who kidnap princesses into castles and caverns. Nor with sensational provocative theories of evil reptilian take overs of your planet.

Now, the mythology of your Arthurian stories in regard to fire-breathing dragons as evil beings that capture princesses are indeed myths and the descriptions are distorted and quite obtuse.

We tell you this while in ancient days, pre LeMurian, pre Atlantean phases of the earth, there were dragons that entered the Earthplane from Zeta Reticuli that were not benevolent. These were in fact battled and driven from the earth by the sacred benevolent dragon beings that still reside on your planet. Although much fewer in numbers, they have always existed here, and are great protectors of your planet, and work closely within the energies of the planetary kundalini force.

Now, there are also extra terrestrial beings of a reptilian nature that do indeed exist. Just as humans, some are benevolent and some are warlike. There have been periods in the earth’s unfolding in which reptilian beings have attempted to enter the Earthplane, and not always for benevolent purpose. These are NOT the beings to which we refer.

Even yet the words, dragon, serpent and reptilian cause humans of the western world to shudder in fear and associate them with evil or dismiss them completely as mythological folklore. The metaphors of St George slaying the dragon or variations of this tale are seeded in the Church’s reign to demolish paganism in their crusade to politically reign & dominate. Yet in many other cultures and religions, especially in Asia, the dragon was revered, and considered a source of wisdom, divinity and ‘good-fortune’.

There is a Devic form of ‘dragonesque’ beings that exist in the elemental kingdom, but these are not the Sacred Fully Conscious Dragons of which we speak. Rather are they elementals that are a conscious form of the elemental realm , projections of the Fire element. The indigenous have often used Fire Devics in ceremony, assigning a ‘Fire-Keeper or Fire-Spirit Talker to hold ceremony in vision quests and ritual dances. There are also fire elemental projections considered as etheric salamanders and fire-glyphs.

The fully conscious divine beings of which we now refer abide both in the inner earth, particularly in volcanic regions and others are drawn to magno-crystalline mountains in high elevations. These beings are not of the elemental electromagnetic kingdom, although they are closely aligned to the earth’s electromagnetic and crystalline energies.

Some of these are massive in size up to 50 meters in length , and radiate a golden light . They exist primarily in higher parallel dimension, but do also bodily exist in your physical world. These are beings of golden light, and are actively involved in the energetics of your planet. They are guardians of certain of your interdimensional gates. They are indeed of divine intelligence, both etheric and physical.

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 03:41
Here's more, this section about Dragons:

Can I say thankyou for the post while at the same time knowing I won't read it? It is in no way at all intended as a slight against your generously and sincerely offered information and I do find it difficult to present my perspective without sounding like an arsehat to most: I stopped reading such things years ago, because I kept running into a wall of 'too little history', a history that didn't encompass the histories *before* the current iteration and that is definitely based on a christian perspective of dichotomy and conflict even if it does not directly openly ascribe to such perspectives.

I have discovered that many individuals have, at different times, asked or accused me of having gotten my knowledge and perspective from others- 'you've read Alistair Crowley!' 'you've read Zechariah Sitchin's books!' 'that's in blah blah blah- obviously you've read that', or insisting that I've listened to this information or watched that video. The consistent answer I have to all of that is 'no, actually, I haven't' but that has only fueled the fire and my integrity has immediately come into question.

I'm one of the bearers of the Lucifer signal. Everything that I talk about is mine; I'll have conversations with Beings about *their* perspectives, experience, signal, sui generis, but I tend to be less engaged when someone starts talking about the realities of others, when the speaker has no clear signal of their own in relation to the information. I live from the perspective of my own sui generis: I can learn from others, sure, I'm constantly evolving, constantly, and at the same time I know that the Self that is downloading into this avatar hasn't even begun to express the full capabilities that are available to me if I just get out of my own way.

Sui generis means, in part, 'own authority, own jurisdiction, own source, unique'- own authority. I Am the I Am in my life. I would love to hear your own experiences and perspectives on the Fey, the Dragonkind, the veils between realms and how to slide between them, how it all works with you. I have known about the Dragons all my life, since I can remember; I have always known that the stories about them were wrong, as were the stories about everything else. I long ran in terror because of the Lucifer stories in my head, having been programmed that these were demonic, and so I must be demonic, and I kept rejecting my horns, and my wings, and all the other things that went along with 'me' in my memories, but I've done my own research into the sealed off places in my mind and got peace around what I am and how I experience things.

This isn't meant to be a thing about not posting such infor; I'm not trying to say that at all, and I hope that the Pub gets the whole sui generis thing enough by now to get that I'm not into doing anything of the sort, despite being headtilty about some things: I'll only move when blatant virus is brought here, I'm not interested at all in tolerating that crap. This isn't the same thing at all, although in truth I can see where the virus is in it; not enough for me to go all Oracle or even look at twice, because we're not out of the noise yet and it's going to be present until we've leveled up out of it. I think what I wanted to be clear about is that this isn't my thing, and by thanking you for contributing and sharing I'm not buying into the information. Why do I go to the trouble of doing this? Easy- misunderstanding. I've experienced enough that accepting other's perspectives without qualifying my own position on things has led to worlds of Goo in terms of individuals thinking that if you accept their sui generis, then it must be yours as well, or at least the bits they want you to agree with.

I passionately love to uphold your sui generis, I don't personally experience the Otherrealms, including the Fae and Dragonkind amongst many others, in anything like the terms described. It's what I've got to go with and share, so I'm going to go with that. :)

Calz
7th May 2012, 03:53
Nice thing that ... images ... none of those pesky words need be involved ... :blah:

http://wallpapersget.com/wallpapers/2012/01/anime-albums-video-game-trailers-600x960.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GML7q1t0JhY/TWxRXrbU4HI/AAAAAAAAFkA/XoXQ6QDoPOo/s1600/dragon%2B6.jpg

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs8/PRE/i/2006/162/2/5/Hydolic_Hydra_wallpaper_by_Ironshod.jpg

http://tylkogroup.com/camp/michael/gold_dragon-1.jpg

onawah
7th May 2012, 04:40
Fair enough, Song.
It was not my intention to foist off another's beliefs on you.
I won't post anything like that again on this thread.

Calz
7th May 2012, 06:17
Thinking of Mazie and Bob ...

http://soultherapy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Soul-Connection.jpg

http://amalisenanayake.synthasite.com/resources/energy%20healing%201.jpg

http://www.leeplifecoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/healing-energy1-300x296.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 07:35
Fair enough, Song.
It was not my intention to foist off another's beliefs on you.
I won't post anything like that again on this thread.

Uh, let's try that again- please go back, reread what I wrote, pay particular attention to the following:


It is in no way at all intended as a slight against your generously and sincerely offered information and I do find it difficult to present my perspective without sounding like an arsehat to most;

This isn't meant to be a thing about not posting such infor; I'm not trying to say that at all, and I hope that the Pub gets the whole sui generis thing enough by now to get that I'm not into doing anything of the sort,

I passionately love to uphold your sui generis

If you get 'don't post that stuff here' from my response, then you've got something else going on that has nothing to do with what I've actually written. I was really clear about the reasons *why* I wrote what I did, I thanked you for the post, and I didn't write 'this is rubbish, don't post it here'. I invited you to share with me your personal experiences.

I'm not angry or anything, just surprised that you'd bother responding like that. I don't do that sort of stuff, playing out the games of the main forum. I'd like to offer a resource that I've personally found really interesting- http://www.radicalhonesty.com/ and if you think I'm some kind of dictator for this thread then you're missing the point of the approach of sui generis.

*looks over at you with curiousity*

Now, do you want to have honest dialogue and communication, or do you want to do something else? Because I will tell you most sincerely, and with zero game playing or aggression, that I have no interest in supporting those kind of contortions. There's no room for contortions in sui generis, it's one of the main reasons that the virus cannot exist within its realms.

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 07:49
Let's play join the dots. :) This is what I've come up with so far.

Here are some important concepts and explorations:

sui generis

sui generis noun in its own category, in its own group, of its own character, of its own class, of its own classification, of its own denomination, of its own desiggation, of its own genre, of its own kind, of its own nature, of its own type, of its own variety, peculiar, special, the only one of its kind, unique

Burton's Legal Thesaurus, 4E. Copyright © 2007 by William C. Burton. Used with permission of The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

The sui generis Being gets to decide for its own Self what its own parameters are, on every level.


Heteroclite:
[fr. Gk. heteroklitos, different form] /HE-tuh-ruh-klite/
[adj] 1) irregular or abnormal; anomalous
[n] 1) a person or thing that deviates from the ordinary rule or form; fig., a maverick

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary:
Het·er·o·clite

a. Deviating from ordinary forms or rules; irregular; anomalous; abnormal.

Het·er·o·clite
n.
2. Any thing or person deviating from the common rule, or from common forms. Howell.

"I mean the disorder in which fragments of a large number of possible orders glitter separately in the dimension, without law or geometry, of the heteroclite..." Foucault -The Order of Things.


abnormal
 [ab-nawr-muhl]
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: different from standard or norm
Synonyms: aberrant, anomalistic, anomalous, atypical, bizarre, curious, deviant, deviate, deviating, divergent, eccentric, exceptional, extraordinary, fantastic, funny, grody, gross, heteroclite, heterodox, heteromorphic, irregular, odd, off-base, off-color, out of line, peculiar, preternatural, queer, screwy, spastic, strange, uncommon, unexpected, unnatural, unorthodox, unusual, weird
Notes: abnormal means 'not normal, different from normal' while subnormal means 'below normal'
Antonyms: customary, normal, standard, straight, usual

Main Entry: anomalous
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: deviating from normal, usual
Synonyms: aberrant, abnormal , atypical, bizarre, divergent, eccentric, exceptional, foreign, heteroclite, incongruous, inconsistent, irregular, odd, peculiar, preternatural, prodigious, rare, strange, unnatural, unorthodox, unrepresentative, untypical, unusual
Antonyms: conforming, normal, regular, standard, usual

Main Entry: atypical
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: nonconforming
Synonyms: aberrant, abnormal , anomalous, deviant, different, divergent, exceptional, heteroclite, irregular, odd, peculiar, preternatural, strange, unnatural, unrepresentative
Antonyms: conforming, normal, ordinary, standard, typical, usual

Any truly sui generis Being is going to look anomalous, peculiar, strange and unnatural to any Being *not* practicing and embracing their own sui generis.

het·er·on·o·my

 [het-uh-ron-uh-mee]
noun
the condition of being under the domination of an outside authority, either human or divine.

Het`er`on´o`my
n. 1. Subordination or subjection to the law of another; political subjection of a community or state; - opposed to autonomy.
2. (Metaph.) A term applied by Kant to those laws which are imposed on us from without <snip>
(Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913 by C. & G. Merriam Co.)

ho·mo·ge·ne·i·ty
   [hoh-muh-juh-nee-i-tee, hom-uh-] Show IPA
noun
composition from like parts, elements, or characteristics; state or quality of being homogeneous.
Also, ho·mo·ge·ne·ous·ness  [hoh-muh-jee-nee-uhs-nis, -jeen-yuhs-, hom-uh-]
Origin:
1615–25; < Medieval Latin homogeneitās, equivalent to homogene ( us ) homogeneous + -itās -ity

ho·mog·e·nize

 [huh-moj-uh-nahyz, hoh-] Show IPA verb, ho·mog·e·nized, ho·mog·e·niz·ing.
verb (used with object)
1. to form by blending unlike elements; make homogeneous.
3. to make uniform or similar, as in composition or function: to homogenize school systems.
verb (used without object)
5. to become homogenized.
Also, especially British , ho·mog·e·nise .

Origin:
1885–90; homogen(eous) + -ize

Related forms
ho·mog·e·ni·za·tion, noun
ho·mog·e·niz·er, noun
o·ver·ho·mog·e·nize, verb (used with object), o·ver·ho·mog·e·nized, o·ver·ho·mog·e·niz·ing.
un·ho·mog·e·nized, adjective

Related forms
non·ho·mo·ge·ne·i·ty, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2012.

There are two states: autonomy or heteronomy/homogeneity. To any Being in the latter, all autonomous Beings are going to be unnatural and therefore experienced as a possible danger; the challenges presented to heteronomous Beings by automonous Beings is a level of freedom and unpredictability that often proves to be overwhelming to the heteronomous Being, causing them to erupt into any combination of reactive behaviours. It's frequently not possible for autonomous Beings to have actual connected and co-creative interchanges with heteronomous Beings due to the dissonance the autonomy creates: the autonomous Being often has to engage in cloaking or signal minimising behaviours just to be able to be in the same space as the heteronomous Being without triggering them into some kind of reaction. No real engagement can happen.

World English Dictionary
autonomy (ɔːˈtɒnəmɪ)

— n , pl -mies
1. the right or state of self-government, esp when limited
2. a state, community, or individual possessing autonomy
3. freedom to determine one's own actions, behaviour, etc
4. philosophy
a. See also categorical imperative the doctrine that the individual human will is or ought to be governed only by its own principles and laws
b. the state in which one's actions are autonomous

[C17: from Greek autonomia freedom to live by one's own laws; see autonomous ]

au'tonomist


categorical imperative
n.
In the ethical system of Immanuel Kant, an unconditional moral law that applies to all rational beings and is independent of any personal motive or desire.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language


Beginning to tie it all together:

The sui generis Being is fully autonomous, navigating life always first from their internal compass. They do not engage in any kind of heteronomous/homogenising behaviours, including those social stroking and meme behaviours that heteronomous Beings engage in. Sui generis does not consider that hiding, masking, distorting self truth, 'being polite' or any of the other programmed social distortions are an honest expression of their Being and so they will not engage in them. Any distortion is considered intolerable between sui generis Beings; it is fully understood that it's possible to hold all perspectives in honour within the framework of sui generis and do no harm; there is a difference between honouring another's perspective and agreement/adoption of that way of Being. Agreement is not a requirement between sui generis Beings. It is understood that one's personal path is one's own, and no other's, so there is no necessity to look for agreement; in engaging with another it is the offering, accepting and exploration of different viewpoints that is the goal, not to persuade another to one's own way of thinking. Expansion, not contraction, is the purpose and intent. Homogenisation of thought and Being is not a goal or even considered.


In my exploration of what it will take to create a society that *doesn't* act like a bunch of arsehats on a regular basis, sui generis and do no harm is what I came to. The depth of the exploration is profound, for such simple concepts, which is what makes it work for me: when I consider a society that TRULY uses these concepts as a foundation for Being, I can never see it waging war, tolerating starvation or inequity, allowing domination and control. There is NOTHING out in the main forum- or anywhere else I've looked, for that matter- that comes close to these two concepts: everything else is a rehash of the virus based system that we already have.

I want to talk about things from this perspective, to learn how to talk and Be with each other without the old stuff kicking in. I want to explore what it takes to fast track the understandings and practices. My evolution happens at bullet train speed most of the time, and I get that it doesn't do that with others, so how do we build a platform that fast tracks the understanding while not wiping out the recipient? Or is the evolution only looking for those that can evolve fast enough? I have no idea, which is why I want to play with the explorations; if the ability to evolve fast is a requirement, then that would mean discovering tools to assist with that. I'm not yet convinced that's part of the game, so I'm going to stick with this one for now.

come on, I'm jumping in the bouncy castle, backbraining these ideas and a thousand other permutations...

Calz
7th May 2012, 08:08
this accidentally got posted, that's twice that's happened now.

You'll have to wait to find out, mwahahahahahaa....

... but what if I was going to reply and already had "snatched it"???

hmmmm?????

mwahahahahahahaha ...

Problem is with drinks already on the house ... blackmail is rather moot.


http://40kintheuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/01-mwahaha.jpg?w=490

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 08:32
... but what if I was going to reply and already had "snatched it"???

hmmmm?????

http://40kintheuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/01-mwahaha.jpg?w=490

This baby has got to be one of the best things you've posted. I am a total sucker for baby glee.

Besides, you should know by now, I'm immunez to blackmail- I'd rather have a nerf gun war or engage in a bout of jelly wrestling.

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/Q7bz3_2wKho/hqdefault.jpg

http://rafflesnerf.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/nerf-bazooka.jpg

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/suprise_attack.jpg

Calz
7th May 2012, 08:48
This baby has got to be one of the best things you've posted. I am a total sucker for baby glee.

Besides, you should know by now, I'm immunez to blackmail- I'd rather have a nerf gun war or engage in a bout of jelly wrestling.

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/Q7bz3_2wKho/hqdefault.jpg



Everything jelly wrestling related I could find ... I'm thinkin' I won't push my luck with this time ...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_twFVQ6kYa2U/SXF8qd69NYI/AAAAAAAAGEg/sIMSBawBtbA/s400/zzzzzzzstop-you-are-killing-me.jpg

http://thelaughingstork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/MirrorMirror.jpg

http://www.funnyzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/funny_excercise_picture_1.jpg

http://images.picturesdepot.com/photo/b/baby_with_a_beer-4031.jpg

http://themescompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/funnybaby03.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 08:58
Everything jelly wrestling related I could find ... I'm thinkin' I won't push my luck with this time ...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_twFVQ6kYa2U/SXF8qd69NYI/AAAAAAAAGEg/sIMSBawBtbA/s400/zzzzzzzstop-you-are-killing-me.jpg



Heh heh heh, why do you think I stuck to nerf gun pics?

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/Motivational-Posters-star-trek-the-original-series-10517509-684-504.jpg

PurpleLama
7th May 2012, 11:03
Here Thar Be Dragons

Calz
7th May 2012, 11:08
Let's play join the dots. :) This is what I've come up with so far.




Bugger ... gone back to change the text I see ...

Sorry ... only one thank you per post allowed. :nono:

... and *just look* at all those big words I have to decode and engage my mental unit with :shocked::faint2:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jDQe6MkjiaQ/THaBznfAmPI/AAAAAAAACBM/n3PLjcKR8JQ/s1600/38356430.jpg


... can I take the easy way out and simply accept your offer to play *join the dots*???:eyebrows:


http://cssa.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lovemachine-condoms-connect-the-dots.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 11:09
Let's play join the dots. :) This is what I've come up with so far.

Further to living into the sui generis perspective in a world that is constantly demanding heteronomy:

The establishment of one's own sui generis is the living, breathing avatar. The police take fingerprints to identify a Being because these prints have been established as being unique to the individual and thus a reliable way of identification. Modern biomarker identifications indicate exactly the same thing: that the physical avatar is an utterly unique expression of the unique Being/intelligence/essence/spirit that is inhabiting it. This is the evidence of the biology- even identical twins have differences; although these are much more subtle than usual *they are still present*- the individual is sui generis in all ways, unique, one of a kind; even identical twins still need anti-rejection drugs if one get the organs of another, the doses are just much lower than usual. Our bodies know what is ours and what is not- everything not 'us' biologically is rejected, because the biology is a direct reflection of our unique signal. For those unfamiliar with such ideas, the works of Dr Bruce Lipton are enormously helpful in understanding these concepts.

If we want to get better at this physical avatar incarnation, we need to make the uplink/downlink stronger. I'd like to have some conversations around the possible explorations around this goal; lucid dreaming is one possibility that has become a strong part of my signal just recently. The changes in my diet are another. Shedding the subtle machinations of the virus are a third area. Let's get these experiments more solidly grounded in the culture of the Pub.

Language explorations, getting really comfortable with honest expression (the radical honesty stuff is quite fantastic for this- challenges the beejums out of the virus and its systems, heh), as does the non-violent communication language. Being able to express one's Self without being snowed under a ton of virus manufactured political and other correctness is part of the process of creating a deeply connected community, as far as I've been able to discern. Dissolving all the metaphorical sacred cows is a big step forward also.

These are the realms that I'm playing in now and I am pulling off some amazing stunts with my bouncy shoes, wondering if anyone wants to come play with me...

http://www.joecrazy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/nakamats.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 11:14
... and *just look* at all those big words I have to decode and engage my mental unit with :shocked::faint2:

... can I take the easy way out and simply accept your offer to play *join the dots*???:eyebrows:


heh heh- sure...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bUuJcUhKOs8/R3Q-JTXOwKI/AAAAAAAAAB0/LSQpUVPoRrM/s400/chart.JPG

but I don't think I've posted anything your brain can't handle, Calz... *sideways eyed grin*

Calz
7th May 2012, 11:19
but I don't think I've posted anything your brain can't handle, Calz... *sideways eyed grin*




Hmmmm.

Frisky fractals .... I think I see the light!!! :nerd:


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songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 11:19
Here Thar Be Dragons

Now why does that not surprise me one iota?

Calz
7th May 2012, 11:24
Here Thar Be Dragons

Now why does that not surprise me one iota?


Remember he took the Purple Pill ...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DqSfQX8RQ5w/Sdp47FAi2hI/AAAAAAAAA3w/8TCmNObEHm8/s400/Morpheus-Red-or-Blue-Pill-the-matrix.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 11:39
Remember he took the Purple Pill ...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DqSfQX8RQ5w/Sdp47FAi2hI/AAAAAAAAA3w/8TCmNObEHm8/s400/Morpheus-Red-or-Blue-Pill-the-matrix.jpg

*grinning* Perhaps we could have a bowlful of them at all the entrances?

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Curt
7th May 2012, 12:10
Hi Songsy,

This was the first thing I learned how to read when I was a very little kid. In a strange way I am reminded of it now as I read your post...


"The Little Red Hen"

Once upon a time, there was a little red hen who lived on a farm . She was friends with a lazy dog , a sleepy cat , and a noisy yellow duck .

One day the little red hen found some seeds on the ground. The little red hen had an idea. She would plant the seeds .

The little red hen asked her friends, "Who will help me plant the seeds ?"

"Not I," barked the lazy dog .
"Not I," purred the sleepy cat .
"Not I," quacked the noisy yellow duck .

"Then I will," said the little red hen . So the little red hen planted the seeds all by herself.

When the seeds had grown, the little red hen asked her friends, "Who will help me cut the wheat ?"

"Not I," barked the lazy dog .
"Not I," purred the sleepy cat .
"Not I," quacked the noisy yellow duck .

"Then I will," said the little red hen . So the little red hen cut the wheat all by herself.

When all the wheat was cut, the little red hen asked her friends, "Who will help me take the wheat to the mill to be ground into flour ?"

"Not I," barked the lazy dog .
"Not I," purred the sleepy cat .
"Not I," quacked the noisy yellow duck .

"Then I will," said the little red hen . So the little red hen brought the wheat to the mill all by herself, ground the wheat into flour , and carried the heavy sack of flour back to the farm .

The tired little red hen asked her friends, "Who will help me bake the bread ?"

"Not I," barked the lazy dog .
"Not I," purred the sleepy cat .
"Not I," quacked the noisy yellow duck .

"Then I will," said the little red hen . So the little red hen baked the bread all by herself.

When the bread was finished, the tired little red hen asked her friends, "Who will help me eat the bread ?"

"I will," barked the lazy dog .
"I will," purred the sleepy cat .
"I will," quacked the noisy yellow duck .

"No!" said the little red hen . "I will." And the little red hen ate the bread all by herself.

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 12:28
"The Little Red Hen"


Once upon a time, there was a little red hen who lived on a farm . She was friends with a lazy dog , a sleepy cat , and a noisy yellow duck ...

And the little red hen ate the bread all by herself.

*looks over at you, Shining*

http://data.whicdn.com/images/696207/rosie_cd_cover_sanna_dahlen_albumart_sea_thumb.jpg

who knows what wondrous and lovely creatures will emerge from the mist...

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 13:50
"The Little Red Hen"

... And the little red hen ate the bread all by herself.

*trails her fingers in the waters, watching the light morph and twist on the surface*

Is it inevitable, Curtis, do you think, this solitary dining, given the nature of sui generis itself? I wonder about that, considering the elements of the territory I'm currently exploring, and yet the chasm doesn't seem to be set in stone; perhaps it's one of those things that is limited to the imagination of the Being more than anything else.

I am a vast and creative visioner, I know this about my Self; I'll hold the space for something more interesting than eating my yummy feast alone all the time- and I do agree with you about the nature of some would be feasters, but then that's not sui generis anyway...

http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ChildrenWhoChaseLostVoices3.jpg

onawah
7th May 2012, 15:39
No offense intended, Songs, and I did get your point.
I wrote what I did before because you had indicated you detected virus in the channeled information, and so I concluded that you did not consider that information source to be useful to you, so I concluded it would be best not to post such info on your thread.
That's all I meant, and no such accusations as you've read into my response were intended.
Perhaps what I should have done in the first place was just ask your opinion of that information, rather than assume that you might find it to be of interest.
Though I thank you for your kind offer for sui generis communication, which I also value, it's not where I'm focused right now, other than with a few particular friends of long acquaintance that I can meet with in the flesh or talk with on the phone.
I find that it's too easy to be misunderstood in forum conversations, and for my tastes, takes too long to untangle the misunderstandings.
I'm actually trying to wean myself off of my computer these days, since I am very sensitive to EMFs and need to heal myself from years of too many hours online.
My goal is just to skim a few of the threads for useful info for an hour or so each day and post very little unless it seems like I might have something to share that would really be useful or of interest to someone else.
I'm focusing more on doing art work, spending time in Nature and local community activism, etc.
But I do still appreciate the unique character of your thread.
I am just as happy to see it evolving here on PA as I was when you first started it.
Please carry on...




Fair enough, Song.
It was not my intention to foist off another's beliefs on you.
I won't post anything like that again on this thread.

Uh, let's try that again- please go back, reread what I wrote, pay particular attention to the following:


It is in no way at all intended as a slight against your generously and sincerely offered information and I do find it difficult to present my perspective without sounding like an arsehat to most;

This isn't meant to be a thing about not posting such infor; I'm not trying to say that at all, and I hope that the Pub gets the whole sui generis thing enough by now to get that I'm not into doing anything of the sort,

I passionately love to uphold your sui generis

If you get 'don't post that stuff here' from my response, then you've got something else going on that has nothing to do with what I've actually written. I was really clear about the reasons *why* I wrote what I did, I thanked you for the post, and I didn't write 'this is rubbish, don't post it here'. I invited you to share with me your personal experiences.

I'm not angry or anything, just surprised that you'd bother responding like that. I don't do that sort of stuff, playing out the games of the main forum. I'd like to offer a resource that I've personally found really interesting- http://www.radicalhonesty.com/ and if you think I'm some kind of dictator for this thread then you're missing the point of the approach of sui generis.

*looks over at you with curiousity*

Now, do you want to have honest dialogue and communication, or do you want to do something else? Because I will tell you most sincerely, and with zero game playing or aggression, that I have no interest in supporting those kind of contortions. There's no room for contortions in sui generis, it's one of the main reasons that the virus cannot exist within its realms.

PurpleLama
7th May 2012, 16:06
Onawah, I seemed to me that posting the info was ok, just not something she would be responding to, per se. I understand well where songs is coming from, so much is in me before I ever see it out there. For me, it's Fae and dragons, too, so personally I enjoyed the posts in question.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=444&attachmentid=15903

songsfortheotherkind
7th May 2012, 22:44
No offense intended, Songs, and I did get your point.
I wrote what I did before because you had indicated you detected virus in the channeled information, and so I concluded that you did not consider that information source to be useful to you, so I concluded it would be best not to post such info on your thread.

hehe, the only time we're going to get absolutely virus free anything is well *after* the shift. I did say that I could see virus in it, and then I went on to qualify what I meant by that. Just so the entire Pub is clear, I don't think *my own* communications are entirely free of virus, which is one of the reasons I look to my Clan to help mirror things I can't see; I know the nature of the virus itself is to bury the deep mechanisms below layers of goo, and it's the deep mechanisms I'm after. I want a virus free world: to me there's a vast difference between the challenges arising from evolution and the jangle of virus. In my mind, evolution doesn't have to jangle, depending on how it's done, whereas virus is always going to jangle until it's cleared. This observation was not intended towards you in any way, it's a natural progression of thought for *me* when I'm writing about such things, not personal. If it's personal my language changes so that this is clear.


That's all I meant, and no such accusations as you've read into my response were intended.

Um, accusations is such a loaded word energetically, at least for me- observations is more accurate in consideration of my intention, which was to reflect what I'd actually said.

Do you know why bothering with these clarifications is of interest to me? Because in the environment of my physical world, in all 47 years I've been traversing this oftentimes nightmare landscape, I can use one hand to count the number of individuals that I have truly connected with. The internet is currently the only sphere that I have in which to far seek like minds and the language barrier and contortions this creates definitely causes me to seek solutions; what is the language that holds sui generis in its true signal yet doesn't cause the splat factor? Is that even possible, given the inbuilt splat factor that has been programmed into the paradigm?

I keep looking for those that want to play in that realm, you see, that's the whole purpose and intention in practically everything that I write; I'm pointing to the platform that I'm operating from and wanting to make stronger, asking 'this thing here, do you want to play here?'. I'm trying to find others who want to hold that particular signal in their *own* unique way, I'm not trying to tell others how to be. Again, this is not specifically directed at you or suggesting anything at all about you, this is demonstrating my own mind and workings because that's what I've got to play with.


Perhaps what I should have done in the first place was just ask your opinion of that information, rather than assume that you might find it to be of interest.

Or you could have posted it and not had any problem with my own response because it's mine and you feel differently and that's perfectly fine. That's also an option: you express what you want to express, I express my stuff, there's no implication of loadedness, we peer like curious kids at each other's art, respond- or not- and then go back to our own stuff with new pieces added to our own experience.


Though I thank you for your kind offer for sui generis communication, which I also value, it's not where I'm focused right now, other than with a few particular friends of long acquaintance that I can meet with in the flesh or talk with on the phone.
I find that it's too easy to be misunderstood in forum conversations, and for my tastes, takes too long to untangle the misunderstandings.
I'm actually trying to wean myself off of my computer these days, since I am very sensitive to EMFs and need to heal myself from years of too many hours online.
My goal is just to skim a few of the threads for useful info for an hour or so each day and post very little unless it seems like I might have something to share that would really be useful or of interest to someone else.
I'm focusing more on doing art work, spending time in Nature and local community activism, etc.
But I do still appreciate the unique character of your thread.
I am just as happy to see it evolving here on PA as I was when you first started it.
Please carry on...

*bows respectfully*

I shall indeed continue my exploration. I hope yours are wonderful and joyous.

Borden
7th May 2012, 23:30
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Borden
7th May 2012, 23:37
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Borden
7th May 2012, 23:41
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songsfortheotherkind
8th May 2012, 00:10
JS8m44KjGGU

this is utterly beautiful, thank you.

songsfortheotherkind
8th May 2012, 01:01
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songsfortheotherkind
8th May 2012, 05:27
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I am working on expressing that vision in my life...

Borden
8th May 2012, 11:52
Here's a definition ...

'Pareidolia: the tendency to interpret a vague stimulus as something known to the observer, such as interpreting marks on Mars as canals, seeing shapes in clouds, or hearing hidden messages in reversed music.'

... that really makes me laugh.

Ahem.

When Giovanni Schiaparelli made his observations about the surface of Mars in the late eighteen hundreds, he used the word 'canali to describe what he saw', but he didn't mean they were literal canals. I'm pretty sure he didn't think there were barges moving lazily along them and locks to be negotiated.

Many musicians (and even some pop stars!) have notoriously placed sentences on tracks in reverse. It's called backmasking. Many, many more have done so accidentally. David John Oates has spent decades discovering this, and his theory suggests that the subconscious mind is leaking all over the place in our speech, and does not conform to the 'forwards' state as rigorously as the conscious. It's a bit like the way the brain translates the upside down image it actually receives from the eye into what we're all familiar with.

As for faces in clouds ... well, if it weren't for the way the mind sees faces in clouds there would be no music, no art, no creativity. If it weren't for the history of imagination I would not be in a house right now, drinking coffee that comes from Costa Rica, and using a computer to write this post - much less have anything to say.

I have always, always been angry with this world. I mean the people on it of course, not the planet. Oh look ... I used the word 'world' in a metaphoric sense. Just a bit of very common creativity. Not even my own.

But of course that is the essence of what 'spiritual' actually means. You can observe a collection of thousands of trees ... or you can observe a forest. I could have said 'roughly seven billion bipedal, carbon-based lifeforms intent on missing the bloody point' ... but I said 'the world'. From a purely physical perspective, your body is the spirit of trillions of cells.

I didn't understand why I was angry with the world when I was younger. All I knew then was that it was a loud, ugly place full of people who were dull and unpleasant, and who by and large regarded me as some sort of anomaly. I felt alienated in a place where people did not seem to have anything bigger in their heart than what everyone else told them was possible. I felt and feel disgust at a world full of people who regard themselves as somehow different from animals ... and yet whose behaviour and entire lives seem only to be a self-deluding sophistication of that nature. I've mentioned my feelings on that elsewhere in this thread.

The irony is that each of these seven billion beings could tell you about books, songs, films, romances, tragedies, hopes and fears that move them. That mean something to them. The baby ones will grin at colours and sounds that they like, and the old ones will tell you stories of the past. Those stories of the past are not merely sequences of events ... they have emotional content and context. They are the SPIRIT of those sequences of events. Reductionist concepts like the idea that pareidolia is purely an evolutionary quirk are the enemy of your heart, mind and soul. That kind of thinking is the enemy of life and creation.

It's my experience that faces in clouds differ from life changing creativity only in application. In the same way that intuition and paranoia are similar. A poor workman blames his tools. It's just a matter of recognition of what we can do ... and of casting off the filters that the planet of the apes seeks to impose upon what we can do. The planet of the apes refuses to acknowledge or define the mechanisms by which our true power operates, and furthermore it seeks to belittle, ridicule and demonise them.

I'd love to hear your ideas on this subject. In the meantime, here's a quick word from my sui generis.

i-6L_hT3QtQ

songsfortheotherkind
8th May 2012, 12:04
Today I did the 140k round trip to visit my two older sons and drop my daughter home: my eldest son is in Brisbane and that's a longer trip, one I know I am going to have to make soon because he's struggling and I can feel it. Today, though, it was the youngest two sons and home for my almost 14 year old daughter.

It's a tiring drive, but it was worth it; I got to hang out with them and watch my 21 year old practice for his fire twirling event, which has been changed to tomorrow night instead of Thursday, which means three trips to Lismore this week. Bleurgh. Noah's birthday is on Friday, so she's coming out with the girl that she's hoping to make her girlfriend, and the older boys are coming out to wreak havoc and go magic mushroom hunting, although the season may be over for that.

On the way home, when I was at the petrol station filling up for the return trip, I was approached by a young girl with a hat like an exploded flower and a voice that lilted sweetly- was I going to Byron, by any chance? She had been making her way along the cars ahead of me and I told her sure, I can drop you at the turnoff to Byron, which is about 8 ks from Byron itself. She was delighted- did I have room for two? she had a girl friend- and so I stuffed all their gear into my tiny borrowed shoe sized auto and off we went.

As events unfolded, it turned out they weren't sure where they were going to stay in Byron, nothing had been arranged. Hrm. Not good, considering the hour of the night. But, said Miss Germany brightly, she had an aunt in Newrybar who might let them stay. Texts were sent back and forth and aunt was delighted with the prospect of company from beloved niece from Germany, and her northern Italian friend. So now I was faced with dropping them off and having them make their difficult way to the back hills of Byron, or drive them there my Self.

Which is what I did. The Beltane moon is waning now, but still huge, and hung over the water like a gigantic and slightly misshapen silver dollar, turning the entire coast to liquid silver. It was about an hour out of my way all up, and resulted in a very cranky tiny Empress in the back seat for the last part of my trip home after I dropped them off, but I was driving in moonlight that soaked into my skin and made my heart sing, and I was driving the high coast road so I was sailing above the sea into the clear night sky, scattered with the brightest stars because they were the only ones that could compete with the moonlight. I simply couldn't let two young travellers be stranded; if any of my girls are ever travelling in their future years, I would like to hope that the kindness of strangers would watch over my daughters as I have watched over the many daughters and sons of others. It is a gorgeous interconnection, this great sense of being able to link the global family together one individual act at a time.

I am home now, tired and delighted with the warm blanket around my shoulders, the hot water bottle on my lap, my hot tea and the thought of a piece of toast, if I can be bothered making it. Life can be so sweetly simple, if we're prepared to let that be the baseline for the way we live globally.

I am dreamy and smiling.

songsfortheotherkind
8th May 2012, 15:30
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once upon a time, in a world that is still here...

my world, my world.

I'm not turning away from it anymore.

songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 02:52
In 2004, something that became known as the Beslan massacre occurred in a regional area in Russia. There is much to suggest that, like 9/11 in the US, the crisis was a black op designed to consolidate power in the Kremlin and it achieved this goal, but that is not the point of this writing; what I'm interested in is the situation that exists in Beslan- and in the Ingush and Chechen peoples that were the other side of the story.

Like all wars, in this one children died. Schools on both sides were deliberately targeted and in this case, out of the 777 children taken hostage over half died, with others never being found to be identified and checked off. Eight years later there is a huge, gaping wound in Beslan; time has moved on, flowers grown over the graves, new schools built, but in the hearts and minds and psyches of the inhabitants, the wound is raw and unhealing. The children that survived have PTSD, the perfect fodder for future assassins to be built from; the adults ghost through their days, their eyes turning away from the ghosts that run through the streets, the memories of the morning of that final day, hands waving goodbye and 'see you later!' ringing in the air. The adults cannot move on, and the children left behind carry their own woundings. Beslan, like all the other towns touched by such horror, is a dark Brigadoon, forever caught in the memory of a day eight years when all the school age children were the targets.

It's a story that echoes up and down the micro/macrocosm; in the individual there are a thousand tiny Brigadoons, places where memory recycles and tells the story of wounding, of hurt, of things to be guarded against and to be defended, no matter what; on the macro scale it's Rwanda, and it's the twin towers, and it's Vietnam, and it's Bosnia and the Kurdish chemical weapon attacks and it's a million other stories of suffering.

I used to have this picture on my computer because I didn't want this to have happened with no lessons learned. This is from the Kurdish chemical weapons attack in 1988. Has the world become a better place since then?

http://www.iranian.com/main/files/blogimages/kurdsvictimsChemicalAttacks.jpg

That would be no.

I struggled for a long, long time after these images were released, just as I had when the Bhopal images flooded the world in '84. My own daughter was only 18 months old when Bhopal happened and I felt the suffering on such an acute scale that I was practically useless. I felt my Self falling into a hole where there was no answer to the horror that was being inflicted on the world at large, where individuals thought it was permissable to do such things to one another. I was unable to function for quite awhile after the Kurdish images were released, as had been the case with Bhopal. I am actually having to be incredibly careful as I write this post, because I can feel the pull of that old space coming to me- Magneto's absolutes which, while I understand them, I find no solution in and no point in taking up- so I'm writing this walking on the knife edge of my own inclination to horror and story. There is no power there, just defenses against the memories of wounds, and stories of revenge and iron wall defenses against pain.

I had reason in my own life to explore those themes of trauma and healing. I've written about that in other places; what is sufficient to know is that I knew trauma personally and I spent years investigating the treatment of and healing from such deep level trauma. I became an EFT/Matrix reimprinting practitioner based on the modality's effectiveness with previously untreatable Vietnam and other war veterans. EFT is rapidly becoming the number one choice of treatment for severe PTSD and other similar crippling trauma reactions. I knew from my own experience that it doesn't take a war to create these kinds of wounds.

So I was a kid that would cry at the black and white images of starvation and war on the tv, would ask my grandparents to send my food to Ethiopia because the kids there needed it and I wasn't really hungry anyway, who thought that if I took stuff on my Self then that was better than it being on someone smaller and more defenseless. When I was living on the streets in Melbourne I'd give my dole money away because I figured there were others worse off than me and I didn't really eat anyway; later on I'd drive my partners nuts by bringing homeless people home for a shower and a feed. I grew up looking for answers because clearly, the adult world was deeply insane and only taught children to find new and better ways to be insane. I went looking for my own healing for the sake of my own children; if it had just been me, I would not have survived my twenties, so great was the internal distress.

So I kept looking at the patterns, piecing together all the elements of trauma studies and healing- which, until EFT, was frankly pretty thin on the ground and didn't really work; I was a careful little spider on her big web, paying attention to the merest vibration on the strings, scuttling back and forth to investigate any possibility. (I like spiders and their dew laden webs, I don't use spider in the sinister sense here). I spent over 15 years in that mode. There wasn't a lot of good signal out there to hone in on back then. There still isn't, really, unless one knows where to look.

I began to create a new pattern in the fabric of my awareness. I pulled in themes and colors from all over, drawing a thread of memory from here, a different thread from the ideas of another; I watched the loom as patterns rose and fell beneath the shuttles of my mind, and gradually I began to trace my fingers over prominent patterns that kept rising and repeating, rising and repeating, until the fabric shifted into the new theme, colors and images leaping out beneath shuttles suddenly skimming in a blur across the shed; when I am unclear on something, the shuttles move much more slowly, but as awareness and consciousness increase so does the speed.

What I saw was a story of micro/macro; it was the clear realisation that healing of entire families, communities, countries and the paradigm itself, could only begin in the individual. There was no lasting answer that could come outside of this model- everything else was repeat patterns of domination, control, force instead of true power and no sui generis, no evolution. What I have learned with this patterning the landscape of my inner worlds is that healing of any kind always begins and ends with me; my sui generis does not work applied to another, because that is domination and control, which never comes from a healthy space. Never.

You want to know what motivates me, at the very core of me? It's images like the one above, a mother desperately trying to save her child and unable to; it's the hatred burning in the hearts of the men who came along afterwards and buried their dead, vowing to revenge the fallen and keep the flames and homes burning; it's in the images of the Bhopal chemical disaster,

http://static.dnaindia.com/images/cache/1541837.jpg

in the image of a final tender and blessing gesture over a tiny face, and the subsequent refusal by the company concerned to take any responsibility whatsoever and a great many other things that I generally keep to my Self; I'm looking for what is actually going to work in creating a paradigm that does NOT support this sort of thing. EVER. Not even for a second.

And that lies in the hearts and Being of the individual, not some knee jerk mob action. It is impossible to legislate intelligence, awareness, consciousness, evolution: every attempt to do so is the fertile ground for just another rebellion against outside domination, against heteronomy, against subjection. Domination, even under the guise of benevolence, will ALWAYS result at some point in rebellion. Rebellion has casualties. I'm utterly, completely, and absolutely SICK OF THE CASUALTIES. I'm utterly, completely and absolutely SICK AND TIRED of the willing addiction to sh!tty, stupid behaviours that have provided absolutely no remedy whatsoever to the continued suffering of the many and the stranglehold of ancient systems of domination that still find the energy to keep going all these millenia later.

I have two things that I can hold that make sense to me in terms of truly undoing the virus: the deep sui generis and do no harm. This is what I have got, it's the only thing that makes any sense to me whatsoever. I'm willing to go anywhere inside my Self to clear out ANY pattern in me that carries the virulent, foetid signal of the virus; I will not be a carrier of it and I know that I have taken my Self to the edge of my ability to handle the fear and storm in an effort to clear it out of me. I don't care if no-one else believes that. I don't care what interpretations are put on my even saying that- my sui generis, the pre-eminent Trust arrangement between my Self and that which created me, what these things mean is that at the end of each day there's me, there are my Creators, and there's my integrity, which no-one else has a clue about. I need to embrace this for my Self, this acceptance that it's highly likely few will ever be able to get me on the level that I want to be seen- and that getting caught up in being seen may be the ultimate thing that gets me off my path.

That's the next exploration- what those triggers around being 'seen' have been doing, and where I'm going with it.

Calz
9th May 2012, 04:08
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songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 05:00
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Calz
9th May 2012, 10:34
A bit quiet in the Pub the last couple of days.

Me?

Oh I have been reading. Bob got me interested in Lou Baldin and I ordered 3 of his books and I am almost finished with the 2nd. Hoping that "another Patron" and his "better half" are doing okay.

http://rydermiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/faceless-friends.gif

songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 11:59
A bit quiet in the Pub the last couple of days.

It has, a ghost town, rather.

*cue tumbleweed*

here's a song from my daughter, Miss 14. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tfuUzK5W4&ob=av2e


Me? Oh I have been reading. Bob got me interested in Lou Baldin and I ordered 3 of his books and I am almost finished with the 2nd. Hoping that "another Patron" and his "better half" are doing okay.

I hope so too. I have such adventures to tell, and an empty Pub to tell them to. Would you like to hear about them?

I wake up every morning at first light, itching to write; it burns in me like it hasn't since I was 15 and writing novels. I *want* to write again- how strange to be back here at this place. I get up every morning and just write for hours...

PurpleLama
9th May 2012, 12:12
Ok, let's see how this works.  I typed out a nice post, detailing the last portion of my dream from last night, only to have the dang blamed phone's browser to freeze and reload, sending all of my words into the aether.  So, I am doing a beta test of typing into my phone's notepad, to copy/paste into the thread.


Last night I dreamt, and dreamt, and dreamt.  The last scene is what I brought back into the seemingly awake world.   It was a shaded, wooden walkway, like one would find in some ghost town from the 1800's.  There was a young woman I knew a decade ago, who was being harassed by a fellow who worked for me at the frame shop a few years back.  This went on for a short while, and I stood still in the shadows, observing.  It came to a point when he pulled out a small, spiked weapon of some sort, and drew back to strike her.  I reflexively rushed him with such force that we flew over fifty meters into a ditch, in the brilliant light of the sun.  His body was pressed into the ground, his hands and feet were bound together and pinned to his chest beneath my feet and left hand.  As he was unable to move, his eyes were filled with rage, he was almost foaming at the mouth.  I said something I don't remember, then I said YOU KNOW WHO I AM, YOU KNOW WHO MY WIFE IS.  (He is a relative of hers, of her late step-father.)  As I said this, this dull light that was white, then red, exited his eyes, leaving them empty, catatonic.  I then looked straight into the incredible brightness of the sun, and awoke.

This seems to relate to songs recent post, not relate so much as respond.  It's acutely in my own reality, as there is a man who had abducted a woman and her three daughters, 7, 12, and 14.  They found the bodies of the mom and the 14 yr old, yesterday or last night, my wife saw on the local news website this morning.

I am really done with this, it is time for the dead hearts to finish dying, to return to the earth, the inner planes, where they can be helped and healed to suffer/cause suffering no more.


I know I can feel this changing in my bones,  the so called shift isn't anywhere but NOW.   The wind agrees, and the sun says And So It Is.

The clouds have a lavender tint, at this moment, as the sun is preparing to
rise.

:wizard:

songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 12:49
Ok, let's see how this works.  I typed out a nice post, detailing the last portion of my dream from last night, only to have the dang blamed phone's browser to freeze and reload, sending all of my words into the aether.  So, I am doing a beta test of typing into my phone's notepad, to copy/paste into the thread.

Since being told about the Lazarus program and downloading it I am a delighted convert: it's been awesome not to lose work! Although the phone could be tricky.

Last night I dreamt, and dreamt, and dreamt.  The last scene is what I brought back into the seemingly awake world.   It was a shaded, wooden walkway, like one would find in some ghost town from the 1800's.  There was a young woman I knew a decade ago, who was being harassed by a fellow who worked for me at the frame shop a few years back.  This went on for a short while, and I stood still in the shadows, observing.  It came to a point when he pulled out a small, spiked weapon of some sort, and drew back to strike her.  I reflexively rushed him with such force that we flew over fifty meters into a ditch, in the brilliant light of the sun.  His body was pressed into the ground, his hands and feet were bound together and pinned to his chest beneath my feet and left hand.  As he was unable to move, his eyes were filled with rage, he was almost foaming at the mouth.  I said something I don't remember, then I said YOU KNOW WHO I AM, YOU KNOW WHO MY WIFE IS.  (He is a relative of hers, of her late step-father.)  As I said this, this dull light that was white, then red, exited his eyes, leaving them empty, catatonic.  I then looked straight into the incredible brightness of the sun, and awoke.

This seems to relate to songs recent post, not relate so much as respond.  It's acutely in my own reality, as there is a man who had abducted a woman and her three daughters, 7, 12, and 14.  They found the bodies of the mom and the 14 yr old, yesterday or last night, my wife saw on the local news website this morning.

I am really done with this, it is time for the dead hearts to finish dying, to return to the earth, the inner planes, where they can be helped and healed to suffer/cause suffering no more.


I know I can feel this changing in my bones,  the so called shift isn't anywhere but NOW.   The wind agrees, and the sun says And So It Is.

The clouds have a lavendar tint, at this moment, as the sun is preparing to
rise.

:wizard:


I am really done with this, it is time for the dead hearts to finish dying, to return to the earth, the inner planes, where they can be helped and healed to suffer/cause suffering no more.

Yes. Yes. A million times yes. Dead hearts to finish dying, that's it exactly. There is no co-existence possible between those two worlds. Time for the realms to split. I am holding that energy in my consciousness more and more now, the clear signal of shift and higher frequency. There's nothing that hasn't already been done before in this merry-go-round, time for something completely new.

I am so sorry about the family. Such unfathomable wrongs being done all over. Your dream was indeed a powerful one; mine are happening energetically but it takes me all day to recall them, and it's in signatures and snatches of ideas. I used to remember my dreams so easily.

*hugs* It's a ride so many of us are finding challenging, right now. I'm glad you are here.

I can so utterly relate.

songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 23:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdiraVxwkI


I'm out here, learning to please my Self. :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E1CbaI1mJXs/TadWXD0lEdI/AAAAAAAAB40/u2DiHh_itko/s1600/Dark+Goddess+Dancing.jpg

Keep your freak flag flying high because there's no point having it at half mast. But don't be self-conscious about it either. Just raise it up, let it whip in the wind and forget it's there.

Wise words I'm sailing my craft by more and more.. :)

http://raffael3d.com/tutorials/images/pirate_flag.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
9th May 2012, 23:50
Yes. Yes. A million times yes. Dead hearts to finish dying, that's it exactly. There is no co-existence possible between those two worlds. Time for the realms to split. I am holding that energy in my consciousness more and more now, the clear signal of shift and higher frequency. There's nothing that hasn't already been done before in this merry-go-round, time for something completely new.

And at the same time, I have the awareness in me that I'm not focusing on those things, just like I'm not focusing on the elements that I wrote about in the 'two worlds' post: I recognise that there are *infinite* worlds, and that these are the two worlds I mean- the one here, where TPTW try to lock everything down into solid state realities and concrete parameters so that slide cannot manifest and do it's work, and the infinite world of Slide, multiverse, where the possibilities are the lingua franca and where there's a completely different focus.

I'm not focused on the harm, I'm focused on the answer, and primarily the refining of the expression of that answer, within me. It makes me look shifting and unstable to many others, because I take up the signal when I see it and discard the signal when its lesson is done, and I'm learning to accept that this is how I'm going to be seen by the many. I'm ok with that, because I know where I'm going with it. I know no amount of explanation will suffice to those that don't get it or can't see it.

Lama, I wrote to you wondering why you didn't post more about your amazing Self that you censor so heavily here. I thought you were being overly cautious. I now know differently. I do apologise most sincerely for that temporary thought of you having more caution than necessary; the arrogance in me, I guess, thinking that I could create a space here that would be able to hold the signal enough to banish the crap. I accept my arrogance and optimism as error. The private space, as CurtisW pointed out, may indeed be a smarter move.

I'm always willing to learn. This has been a good learning! :)

Now I want to learn more. *big cheesy grin*

Calz
10th May 2012, 07:51
Hey there Pub Patrons ... (wherever in the Universe you are hiding instead of partaking of libations with an occasion glance into the corners of the mind and soul).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X--Qh4Ztwh0/TC1Z7Dg2T2I/AAAAAAAAAlM/11WGFxcePXo/s400/e41ac80f02d1fc674d4b3004ec3772b6_emo_heart-1808.jpg

http://whereintheworldismystuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Searching__but_not_seeing__by_Lyndzie-1024x857.jpg

http://metaphysigirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/soul-searching-1.jpg?w=604


Been trying not to go into what Lou Baldin has written about (in various venues) since I don't know if that other bob wants to follow through with his idea to take the topic to a private "group" or not. There is one thing I will mention in the meanwhile since it is not off-topic to what has already been discussed on the thread ... going astral.

He suggests that it is *totally impossible* for humans to go astral *without* the assistance (knowingly or not) from "aliens, ETs, offworlders ..." (whatever label suits your fancy).

What say you Patrons??? :ear:

I expect there may be one or two that will break your "silence" to chime in on that one.


http://www.hedgedruid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/astralprojearth.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 08:55
Hey there Pub Patrons ... (wherever in the Universe you are hiding instead of partaking of libations with an occasion glance into the corners of the mind and soul).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X--Qh4Ztwh0/TC1Z7Dg2T2I/AAAAAAAAAlM/11WGFxcePXo/s400/e41ac80f02d1fc674d4b3004ec3772b6_emo_heart-1808.jpg

I'm here, writing through the physical pain tonight- brilliantly, I haven't had my mag oil and it's really showing.

I want to talk with you and sat down to do just that, but I'll be back in a bit when I've done something about the pain. I'm really interested in this discussion.

and hey, it looks like we have the place to ourselves again, so while you're waiting, have one of these-

http://cdn.epicski.com/9/9c/9c71150f_PieInTheFace2.jpeg

ehh heh heh heh...

Calz
10th May 2012, 09:17
I'm here, writing through the physical pain tonight- brilliantly, I haven't had my mag oil and it's really showing.

I want to talk with you and sat down to do just that, but I'll be back in a bit when I've done something about the pain. I'm really interested in this discussion.

and hey, it looks like we have the place to ourselves again, so while you're waiting, have one of these-

http://cdn.epicski.com/9/9c/9c71150f_PieInTheFace2.jpeg

ehh heh heh heh...


Ooooh ... very well played Songstress (whose voice echoes reverberatingy around the empty Pub).

http://images.wikia.com/smurfs/images/f/f8/Smurf_Gingerbread.jpeg

I bet you know what's coming next ....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d9u-Rz36n94/SSEUpUT_J2I/AAAAAAAAAB0/cWvw4dV0Di4/s400/political-pictures-barack-obama-pie1.jpg

Nah ... not when you are hurting ... help yourself whenever you feel better :hungry:

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20101104/Pumpkin-Pie-Face-1695882.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 09:45
Ooooh ... very well played Songstress (whose voice echoes reverberatingy around the empty Pub).

http://images.wikia.com/smurfs/images/f/f8/Smurf_Gingerbread.jpeg

I bet you know what's coming next ....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d9u-Rz36n94/SSEUpUT_J2I/AAAAAAAAAB0/cWvw4dV0Di4/s400/political-pictures-barack-obama-pie1.jpg

Nah ... not when you are hurting ... help yourself whenever you feel better :hungry:

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20101104/Pumpkin-Pie-Face-1695882.jpg

Oh, nommy- pie! *piggles a piece and stashes a piece in the fridge for my Cerridwen*

What better way to take my mind of force 9 level pain than

http://deadrooster.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/soupy-sales-pie-face.jpg

sharing my pie?

With someone else's face that is- it's way more hilarious.

Portal cream pie fight!

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/5397887_f520.jpg

Do ya have the mustard for the custard? Pie Tank has just one question for you Calz-

http://torreyshannon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Do_you_feel_lucky_Punk.jpg

Calz
10th May 2012, 10:01
Do ya have the mustard for the custard? Pie Tank has just one question for you Calz-

http://torreyshannon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Do_you_feel_lucky_Punk.jpg

Sheesh ... never soft pedal when dealing with a *Sushi Generali*


http://oldflightsims.com/image/cache/A-10_Tank_Killer_Coverart-500x500.jpg


Have your pie and eat your cake too you want ...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SVNvEA1KoFg/Tor5P4SMXCI/AAAAAAAACeU/5dBnuhcNjgI/s1600/yoda1.jpg


Your way have it you will ...


http://www.movieactors.com/photos-60/piefight.jpeg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 10:24
Do ya have the mustard for the custard? Pie Tank has just one question for you Calz-

http://torreyshannon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Do_you_feel_lucky_Punk.jpg

Sheesh ... never soft pedal when dealing with a *Sushi Generali*


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SVNvEA1KoFg/Tor5P4SMXCI/AAAAAAAACeU/5dBnuhcNjgI/s1600/yoda1.jpg


http://www.movieactors.com/photos-60/piefight.jpeg

*licks pie off her fingers*


ooooooooh, raspberry!

*actives pie repelling force field*

http://gifs.gifbin.com/082010/reverse-1280917873_slo-mo-pie-to-face.gif

c'mon, baby, is that all you got?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/22/1332411636919/Extra-bugsy-malone-008.jpg

http://dulwichonview.org.uk/assets/uploads/2011/02/Bugsy-splurgeweb.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 10:31
http://livingfree.aubreecherie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/go-ahead-its-gluten-free1.jpg

Calz
10th May 2012, 10:45
c'mon, baby, is that all you got?




http://wallszone.com/thumbnails/large_Fight_for_Food_Kung_Fu_Panda_2_Wallpaper_38011.jpg

http://www.zenithgallery.com/calendar/tactical-food-fight.jpg

http://www.heraldnet.com/assets/jpg/foodfight_pumpkinpie.jpg

http://ranchwabble.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/food-fight.jpg

http://cardifffoodchain.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/food_fight.jpg

PurpleLama
10th May 2012, 10:45
He suggests that it is *totally impossible* for humans to go astral *without* the assistance (knowingly or not) from "aliens, ETs, offworlders ..." (whatever label suits your fancy).

I suggest that each human is nonphysical in it's being *first*, contrary to appearances.  I will say that I'm always surrounded by my support group, so in my personal experience I cannot exactly refute Lou's words, but I believe his perspective might not be the whole picture.  So much of what I am calling support group could perhaps most accurately be defined as unrecognized portions of my own psyche, and that is the case of many, many, many contactees, and very likely that's a significant portion of Lou's experience as well.  I am saying that having read very little of his material, mind you.  It's just that so very much of what's in mystical experience is just that, experience within our own multidimensional (whatever that means) selves.

Now, back to the pic ninja pie fight.

Calz
10th May 2012, 10:51
He suggests that it is *totally impossible* for humans to go astral *without* the assistance (knowingly or not) from "aliens, ETs, offworlders ..." (whatever label suits your fancy).

I suggest that each human is nonphysical in it's being *first*, contrary to appearances.  I will say that I'm always surrounded by my support group, so in my personal experience I cannot exactly refute Lou's words, but I believe his perspective might not be the whole picture.  So much of what I am calling support group could perhaps most accurately be defined as unrecognized portions of my own psyche, and that is the case of many, many, many contactees, and very likely that's a significant portion of Lou's experience as well.  I am saying that having read very little of his material, mind you.  It's just that so very much of what's in mystical experience is just that, experience within our own multidimensional (whatever that means) selves.

Now, back to the pic ninja pie fight.


*Comes up for air* ...

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2537/3860957585_eccd41d6c0.jpg

Thanks for weighing in your Purple Wizardness :hail:

Should be quite interesting when Bob has time and peace of mind to return. I was wetting the appetite and throwing out a pie ... ummm ... I mean bone.

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 10:55
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_tfBmKYqH1bw/S_VpbaJgSsI/AAAAAAAAE8Q/XiDyI_jSrQs/pie%20vs%20cake.jpg

http://thefeministkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/nancyuptonpie.jpg

or-

no, no, it's all good, I'm going to stick with the pie, pie works for me!

nommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 11:08
c'mon, baby, is that all you got?




http://wallszone.com/thumbnails/large_Fight_for_Food_Kung_Fu_Panda_2_Wallpaper_38011.jpg

http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/1729988/dave-aizer-pied-on-slime-time-o.gif

http://www.pieclub.org.uk/images/darth.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/204/8/e/panda_force___pie_wars_by_silversparlor-d41f641.png

http://s1.favim.com/mini/6/food-pie-star-wars-164664.jpg

Calz
10th May 2012, 11:12
no, no, it's all good, I'm going to stick with the pie, pie works for me!

nommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0910/gun-control-funny-gun-oldie-pie-movie-funny-humor-demotivational-poster-1255129906.jpg


Oh ... *NOW* I get it :doh:

Songsie is indulging in a shameless promotional stunt with debaucherous pie snatching frolics trying to reel back in the sagging attendance.

Gotcha :whistle:

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/wink-happy-16.jpg?w=500&h=300


http://i.tbs.com/v5cache/TBS/Images/Dynamic/i16/trgi2_piefight7_1024x768_050620051613.jpg


I'll limit myself to that one since I am out on "good behaviour"??? :eyebrows:

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 12:05
Been trying not to go into what Lou Baldin has written about (in various venues) since I don't know if that other bob wants to follow through with his idea to take the topic to a private "group" or not. There is one thing I will mention in the meanwhile since it is not off-topic to what has already been discussed on the thread ... going astral.

He suggests that it is *totally impossible* for humans to go astral *without* the assistance (knowingly or not) from "aliens, ETs, offworlders ..." (whatever label suits your fancy).

What say you Patrons??? :ear:

Hrmm, ok, had hot bath and I've sprayed two lots of magnesium oil over me, pain down from 9 to between 3 and 4. Awesome! Astounding stuff. NO codeine necessary on a night that ordinarily would have had me dosing up quite heavily. Am wrapped in a snuggly blanket, with my arms poking out like scarecrow sticks, so I'll discuss this while waiting for hot water bottle water to boil.

Ok, initially a couple of things: we're eseentially downloading our Selves into this avatar, in one way or another- for me, I sort of knew that as a kid, although I couldn't really express the idea, and then Bruce Lipton's work supported and explained the concept and biology. Part of my current change in focus is to more strongly connect with the upload/download mechanism, while working on expanding my own energetic experiences. So, in the case of astralling, it feels like *we* are essentially helping our Selves? I used to astral effortlessly as a kid and did not experience any of the distressing/frightening symptoms that I've read about in Jacob's book, for example; as a kid I astralled practically every night and felt a real sense of loss when I couldn't do it anymore.

I know this planet is in quarantine, so it makes sense that the assistance of the gatekeepers might be required to get beyond the borders, but I've never experienced needing or having that kind of intervention such as when I tune the water and make the jump; then again, I don't consider that a full astral experience either, so that may be no indicator. My guides don't consider this perspective of needing offworld assistance to astral correct, and it doesn't sit with my breathing either, so I don't consider it useful; why would Beings that are sui generis need the assistance of others to do things that are naturally part of the physical avatar experience?

To me personally, with absolutely no need on my part for any agreement from anyone else, this sounds like Anunnaki style 'you need us, inferior beings that you are' kind of falderol. I say this as one who experiences my Self as a creator, who is on the path to being a Creator, and I don't get into the external authority/heteronomy thing at all. There's no sui generis in 'you can't get to where you want to go unless we help you', so I'll be looking for other doors; I am totally up for assistance and eduction, not at all into absolute dependence.

For what it's worth. :)

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 12:15
no, no, it's all good, I'm going to stick with the pie, pie works for me!

nommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0910/gun-control-funny-gun-oldie-pie-movie-funny-humor-demotivational-poster-1255129906.jpg


Oh ... *NOW* I get it :doh:

Songsie is indulging in a shameless promotional stunt with debaucherous pie snatching frolics trying to reel back in the sagging attendance.

Pfffffffft, rubbish, you should know me better than that by now- I couldn't care less about anyone else, I am an utterly shameless pie eater after pie for my Self!

sheesh!

http://davidmerryweather.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/cherry-pie-girl.jpg

Calz
10th May 2012, 12:29
Sometimes you just have to love the way of the Universe ...

Earlier in the pie fight I was going to add that it was lucky for Songsie I was at work or else I would post another Alice Cooper song "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

Off work ... jump in the suv ... how many guesses do you need for the *first* song that came on the radio???

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/146fs495919.gif

http://www.tag-pictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/chimpanzee-funny-pictures.jpg


rNDC9RxVxLc

Calz
10th May 2012, 12:43
Pfffffffft, rubbish, you should know me better than that by now- I couldn't care less about anyone else, I am an utterly shameless pie eater after pie for my Self!

sheesh!




Indeedy I do ...

... but when you roll out the tank and ask if I feel lucky ... punk ...

Can't have your cake ... errr ... deja vu ... and eat your pi ... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/hippo.gif

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/5yjbztv.gif


http://musicalchef.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-challenges-you-to-a-fight.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 12:59
Sometimes you just have to love the way of the Universe ...

Earlier in the pie fight I was going to add that it was lucky for Songsie I was at work or else I would post another Alice Cooper song "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

Off work ... jump in the suv ... how many guesses do you need for the *first* song that came on the radio???

*grinning* Awesome, Calz- now we just need that working for us all on a higher level than-

*smorfled laughing* I was about to write 'crusty cock rock', but then realised that crusty cock wasn't really the image I was wanting to conjure in my head. So I'll conjure it in yours instead! All part of the service, mwahahahaaha...


http://cl.jroo.me/z3/t/R/j/d/a.aaa.png


On a quieter note, thanks for the pie fight- it's a bad time, this time of year- my brother's death anniversary on the 26th of April, 25 years it was this year; my nanna's on the 13th, son's birthday on the 9th, Mum's death anniversary on the 30th of April, second daughter's birthday on the 11th of May, eldest daughter's birthday on the 31st of May, her second death anniversary on the 9th of June. It gets kind of rollercoastery...

I may need more idiocy in the near future. :P

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 13:04
Pfffffffft, rubbish, you should know me better than that by now- I couldn't care less about anyone else, I am an utterly shameless pie eater after pie for my Self!

sheesh!




Indeedy I do ...

... but when you roll out the tank and ask if I feel lucky ... punk ...

http://musicalchef.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-challenges-you-to-a-fight.jpg

http://sp270.fotolog.com/photo/55/31/15/a_kind_ofmagic/1235722086883_f.jpg

Can you handle the pussy? *laughing* She has sharp claws, you know...

Calz
10th May 2012, 13:14
http://sp270.fotolog.com/photo/55/31/15/a_kind_ofmagic/1235722086883_f.jpg

Can you handle the pussy? *laughing* She has sharp claws, you know...


Game on it is ... :chess:


http://x8b.xanga.com/f6ef46e322735245986418/b195027044.jpg

Calz
10th May 2012, 19:17
http://popartmachine.com/artwork/POP+ART+4062709/0/Pop-Art-Photo-Object-4062709-painting-artwork-print.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
10th May 2012, 21:23
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1if0vBySi1qgwh7to1_400.jpg

http://astrocadeage.com/grumpy-cat.jpg

early morning cat.

Calz
10th May 2012, 22:27
A4duZjxusGM

jhat-xUQ6dw

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 00:03
http://markshepardsongs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wild-woman1.jpg


....The hero always attracts friends, supernatural help, little tinctures and potions along the way so long as he's in his quest.

This morning I woke up with things on my mind, inspired by a vision of a minotaur like Being pacing up and down in the background of my Being, willing me to understand something he was trying to communicate. He had shown up last night in response to a situation that I was experiencing with an individual, in the place between us that I've come to call the chasm. It triggered over a week ago and we haven't been able to recover the previous connection since; last night was the first time I'd tried to back into that territory since the explosion. What became clearer was the nature of the gulf that has emerged between us and we ended the conversation unsure if our connection was going to survive this latest development.

http://www.mindvirus.com/images/mind-virus-logo-lg.png

I went to bed exhausted and sad, my mind filled with this enormous, hulking and insistent bull horned Being- I've been trying to find adequate images online and I just can't, so I figure they'll come to me when it's right, or they won't. All night this Otherkind Being and I paced back and forth, with various Otherkind emerging and dissolving in the dreamscape, including my beloved gargoyle, who seemed to sometimes shift shape with the horned one; I woke up with a burning desire to write and see what emerged. What emerged was my tale of two worlds post. That triggered another round of internal communication with the Minotaur and a brief but intense conversation with an incarnate friend where many of the nebulous elements fell clearly into place.

I wrote about the eternal stuckness that arises from an inability to truly release old trauma. Even though the issue between my Self and this other individual only happened just over a week ago, in reality there are many threads of old traumas and stories in the essence of what we're playing out with each other. It's always like that- trauma constantly circles around the fire, looking for release, because nothing new can happen until that story is finished. The mind world and collective unconsciousness is full of bad Groundhog Days and reruns of crappy scenarios devoid of evolution, yet so tenaciously are the stories clung to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQVxZe8Vln0&feature=related

I found stuckness and story in me this morning, connected in whispers by a snuffling and quiet voice, soft shaggy mane of hair tickling the side of my neck. I saw the pieces move and interlock with such exquisite clarity that I cried at the beauty of the shifting happening in me in that moment; I was in awe of the process that is there, waiting in the space for any who wish to avail themselves of it, the ever shifting kaleidoscope of evolution and creativity.

I also became acutely aware of how responsible we are individually for whatever we're adding to the collective unconsciousness at any moment. Every moment we get to choose what we're putting into the energy pool that is being fed upon- we can either give the makers of the virus a tasty snack to feed on, or we can flow a high vibration of energy into the mix that is going to give them a real dose of Bali belly and bad indigestion. Enough of us in there feeding high vibration into the pool and the feeders are going to get quite reluctant to even stop by for a quick snack. It's the gift and the power that we have in every moment, this high beam focus that we can choose to express- and it's how I want to live.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_s6_B05xvr98/SfBAc-PI-_I/AAAAAAAAAU4/NE5YINFzbTI/s320/bat+for+lashes+-+two+suns.jpg

This post has carried over to a new morning and I had strange things going on last night. I was acutely aware of a LOT of energetic activity going on outside my house: at first I was getting edgy and uneasy about it, there was so much noise and knocking going on, but I tuned into it questioningly and realised that it was an activity designed to make invisible my Self , my family, everyone connected to me, and the house. That resulted in gratitude and curiousity, because I was wondering what could be happening to require that level of Otherkind family gathering. Apparently my invisibility factor has now been majorily upped, due to my own leveling up of my Self.

Then I went to bed and just as I was going to sleep someone big sat on the bed. There was so much peace and comfort with the presence that I reacted like a child, as if my carer had just sat down to be with me, and I drifted off in total safety. This morning, something getting off my bed again woke me up.

This used to happen to me a lot as a child; as I got older it stopped for a few years but when it started back up again it felt frightening and unsafe. I think that was a distortion of the dark energy that my mother kept calling into the space. I remember such comforting gestures and presences in my childhood- murmured voices in my ears where I could feel the breath against my cheek, moving my hair; comforting touch, the feeling that there were many walking beside me right next to the veil. my constant chattering with Beings unseen- these are the bright stars of my childhood, the memories that are rising out of the mists and are calling me back again.

http://dancingintothelight.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/woman.jpg

I am laying down my own dark Brigadoons and bad Groundhog Days; somewhere in the sleep realms I've been leaving them behind; I'm increasingly walking through the matrix seeing the tissue paper facades and robotic nature of it all, without it bothering me. I'm living into what I want, not what I *don't* want.

The heroes of the journey don't stop to fix all the minor issues. They trust themselves and accept that their companions are sui generis Beings who know how to walk their own path. One cannot be accomplishing the task at hand if one is having to stop and fix the issues of others all the time, getting caught in the minutae of all that is going on around.

Not everything is treasure, not everything is worth picking up along the way: it wasn't Neo's job to get back into the Matrix and promptly organise a street march and concert against the Machines. I have been walking in other people's realms and getting caught up in their issues with me, thinking I was trying to express my Self in ways that could be more readily understood and thus my perspective- and my Self- be respected. Thing is, that's never going to work. I'm learning the difference between co-creation and having someone demand something from me and I'm recognising that I love the former and have zero interest in the latter.

I'm not here to make anyone feel better. I'm here to talk about a way of Being that, when it's taken up by enough Beings, will alter the way things are done here forever. I'm not here to deal with what that brings up for the individual, Neo didn't stop flying about just because it was going to break some individual's brain. I am beginning to realise that the traps for me in relationships aren't so much the nature of the relationships themselves, it's how I have 'relationship' stored in my internal map and what starts to run when a connection moves from the outer sphere to my inner sphere.

All I can say is, no wonder my mother and grandmother had such sucky sucky experiences of relationship, if that's where I got the foundation of this map from. I have been sitting with this map out on the table, pouring over it in fascinated horror as I really scrutinise this legacy that I've been handed and haven't really looked at with such careful attention to the details. What I've discovered is a boatload of bollocks with little to no sui generis whatsoever embedded in it: stories of placating, explaining, compromise and sacrifice of Self, dumbing Self down, modification, accommodating- OMFG.

Here's my response to all that.

http://images.chifururu.multiply.com/image/ltpygQFa2lYkPNDa9VVCfQ/photos/1M/300x300/65/throwing-trash-sign-thumb2595320.jpg?et=OtCqBHUNQOcOyrd%2C1m5SKg&nmid=0

Yes. I've the new map for my Self, one that I actually want to express and live into, which is the one I already subconsciously knew but have been in the very final stages of claiming. I want to make a vision board of it, so that I can explore it better- I do far better with visual spatial exploration than with words.

As if in recognition of the shift within me, someone rang me last night- someone who knows me and has seen me give talks before, who is familiar with the sui generis work I do- and they told me that they want to film me and put the sui generis/consciousness work up online. So that's what I'm going to do. They also wish to assist me with making other films, and I'm going to take them up on their offer.

http://lyndallmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wild-Woman.jpg

http://www.kaleidosoul.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tamara_wildwoman.jpg

I don't enjoy living in the limitations of others and allowing them to be enforced as my own parameters. I've been letting me diminish my Self out of a weird sense of what caring and connection are, not because I'm weak or don't have better ideas. I'm dropping that now.

Here is me, getting my big time freak on.

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 00:29
http://mrztanyapickles.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/when.jpg?w=470

http://mrztanyapickles.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/workisnotajob.jpg?w=470


After some of the things I've been experiencing lately, giving my Self permission to change on a daily basis again feels awesome. Feel free to change anything at all you want to! I am thinking of what I could possibly do for the very first time today, where I could move into a new experience just for the sake of the experience.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YuAeeF-2Ec&feature=branded

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 00:38
Cookie Monster wishes to express his opinion about the dominant paradigm, the general tone of conspiracy theories, the way most people live these days and monoculture produced food.

http://www.swingingpuss.com/upload/2008/07/Cookie_Monster.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 00:44
And now a reminder to my Self- not just WRITE but LIVE!

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6186/6113186603_f1fcdc298a_z.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 09:58
That at the end of the day, what's really true in the minds of most is that evolution is all well and fine as long as it looks, acts, thinks and appears to be similar to what's gone before?

Is there truly that little imagination and vision? That it's easier to quote Einstein-about needing a different mentality and operating platform from that which caused the problem- than it is to live into the unknown?

Not for me. I'm not taking that path, even if it means walking mine alone: my warrior Self will comfort the more vulnerable elements within me

http://cdn.pixel77.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/angel-embracing-female-nude.jpg

and I will bumble my way through the unfamiliar landscape.

Things aren't going to change in my life, in my world, by me holding back from living into the fullness of my possible Self. I'm determined to do what I've always been good at- going into the dark parts of the map with only the light within me to illuminate my surroundings. It will be interesting to discover who I'll find doing the same.

Calz
11th May 2012, 10:12
That at the end of the day, what's really true in the minds of most is that evolution is all well and fine as long as it looks, acts, thinks and appears to be similar to what's gone before?

Is there truly that little imagination and vision? That it's easier to quote Einstein-about needing a different mentality and operating platform from that which caused the problem- than it is to live into the unknown?

Not for me. I'm not taking that path, even if it means walking mine alone: my warrior Self will comfort the more vulnerable elements within me

http://cdn.pixel77.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/angel-embracing-female-nude.jpg

and I will bumble my way through the unfamiliar landscape.

Things aren't going to change in my life, in my world, by me holding back from living into the fullness of my possible Self. I'm determined to do what I've always been good at- going into the dark parts of the map with only the light within me to illuminate my surroundings. It will be interesting to discover who I'll find doing the same.

:ranger:

http://images.clipartof.com/small/12165-Clay-Sculpture-Clipart-Sleepy-Alarm-Clock-Yawning-And-Holding-Coffee-Royalty-Free-3d-Illustration.jpg

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/pling/pling0908/pling090800007/5371032-group-of-people-holding-sign-with-no-only-one-person-stand-out-of-crowd-holding-a-yes-sign-3d-illust.jpg

http://www.reallygoodthinking.com/images/pink%20girl%20standing%20out%20in%20crowd.jpg

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/michaeldb/michaeldb0902/michaeldb090200018/4332297-one-colorful-individual-person-stands-out-from-large-diverse-crowd-of-gray-symbol-people.jpg

http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp6866946.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 10:46
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l629/synesthesiagarden/Feb12/fatedinnocent_chrystalchan.jpg?t=1329891471

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/Miss_Asphyxia_/May11/_.jpg?t=1304827017

http://img.over-blog.com/600x449/3/50/15/57/The-Crown-of-Love--d-copie-2.jpg

Borden
11th May 2012, 10:55
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l73/welderchick2006/hypocrisy.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 11:10
:ranger:

http://images.clipartof.com/small/12165-Clay-Sculpture-Clipart-Sleepy-Alarm-Clock-Yawning-And-Holding-Coffee-Royalty-Free-3d-Illustration.jpg

http://www.alspics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/coolest-bedroom-in-the-worlds-1.jpg

Calz
11th May 2012, 13:27
http://www.alspics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/coolest-bedroom-in-the-worlds-1.jpg


Nice waterbed there Songsie ... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bathtime.gif

Eleven grand a pop ... didn't know you were pullin' in so much cash from the Pub. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/money1.gif

How does that work while giving away all the drinks for free again??? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/laie_14.gif


http://www.mylifeisbrilliant.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ConradMaldivesUnderwaterSuiteNight-1024x681.jpg

http://onelazyear.com/lazyblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Screen-shot-2011-07-11-at-05.00.56.png


Only $11,710 per night at Conrad Maldives Rangali Island ...
Image Source Page: http://onelazyear.com/lazyblog/?p=235

Mad Hatter
11th May 2012, 13:33
Here is my map and anyone is welcome to take a copy ---->

Alekahn
11th May 2012, 14:53
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Ten years ago now, during an after party I sat with this sister in a warehouse where I lived communally...we spoke of what it means to be a warrior in this contemporary madness. At a certain point, amidst the rhythmic pounding beat of humans dancing around us, she looked deep into my eyes and came out with this reminder. I have never forgotten. A moment of whispered awakening and remembrance.
Respect and courage to all.

The Warrior's Reminder

"I am awake
My mind is free
I am creative
I love myself
My willpower is strong
I am brave
I practice patience
I don't judge folks
I give, not to receive
I don't expect
I accept
I listen more than I talk
I know I'll change
I know you'll change
I'll hold on one more day

I start over when necessary
I create my own situations
I am cosmic
I do not have the answers
I desire to learn

I am the plan
I am strong
I am weak
I want to grow
I know I will
I take on responsibility

I hide myself from no one
I'm on my path
Warriors walk alone
I won't let my focus change
Taking out the demons in my range."

Erykah Badu


QlCBEd7E4no

Calz
11th May 2012, 15:06
Very very nice Alekahn. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/305.gif :humble:

Thank you for sharing that. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/computer3.gif http://www.pic4ever.com/images/thankyou.gif

Calz
11th May 2012, 16:01
Happy to see Borden pop in for a visit.

Been wondering where are all the "regulars"??? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2.gif :cantina:

Missing you we have http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs3647527.gif


http://images4.fanpop.com/image/polls/845000/845751_1317524782602_full.jpg

http://slickzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Going-up-in-Smoke.jpg

Debra
11th May 2012, 18:10
Hello Pubbers,

How are you all? The other lives of Zebra have been demanding .. I've only managed a few little curiosity tours through Avalon. Hilarious, I am feeling guilty for not being here.

http://www.rexwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/cartoons/guilty-gear/guilty_gear_1.jpg

Calz
11th May 2012, 18:16
Well *there* you are!!!

Life has a way of doing that eh???


http://www.presidiacreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/animals_01.jpg

Debra
11th May 2012, 18:28
I feel like drink, Calz .. pour me one will you?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WLHngBeBngg/TFgov_qe80I/AAAAAAAABDI/Hvc_r7n1gBg/wine-glass-pour.jpg

:cantina:

I'm heading back in 5

http://blogs.ngm.com/.a/6a00e00982269188330133f562acd0970b-500wi

Calz
11th May 2012, 18:36
I feel like drink, Calz .. pour me one will you?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WLHngBeBngg/TFgov_qe80I/AAAAAAAABDI/Hvc_r7n1gBg/wine-glass-pour.jpg

:cantina:




Yes of course Madam ... having the usual tonight My Lady??? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2chw5mg.gif


http://www.didyouwonder.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/unique-wine-bottle-holder-5.jpg

Debra
11th May 2012, 19:02
Stirling service, SIR

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vgvqsLhE43g/TM5LRyc7kSI/AAAAAAAAAKY/PpKSyzGDFz0/s320/Halloween+029.jpg

And please .. let me buy you one too, the usual?

http://www.akronlife.com/downloads/670/download/bitblt-400x300-ab4e4b86d4efc7a487391ba5ebf17b0e7a29165e/DSC_0360.jpg

Calz
11th May 2012, 19:03
My memory is shot and I am *way* too lazy to go wading back through 100+ pages to confirm ...

Belly dancing daze ... not sure if this was posted ... but great song so if it was posted before then ... enjoy it again.

HDLLXUaqZxg

Calz
11th May 2012, 19:08
Stirling service, SIR

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vgvqsLhE43g/TM5LRyc7kSI/AAAAAAAAAKY/PpKSyzGDFz0/s320/Halloween+029.jpg

And please .. let me buy you one too, the usual?

http://www.akronlife.com/downloads/670/download/bitblt-400x300-ab4e4b86d4efc7a487391ba5ebf17b0e7a29165e/DSC_0360.jpg


Well thank you ever so much.

Though you have been gone a little while ... you do remember what happens when you start buying me drinks (tho they are free)???


Yes ... I blame myself.


I stopped posting tail feather images :doh:

My bad :tsk:

[zebra thong but you need a magnifying glass to spot it] :eyebrows:


http://www.swimwearplace.com/images/detailed/6/UNR201-2.jpg

Debra
11th May 2012, 19:20
You give me cause to thrash about - a bit ;)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NbYUHzCWMc8/Txmx04NjGDI/AAAAAAAAC54/IHvSQsBSFt8/s1600/Zebra+in+the+Nile+rivers+infested+crocodile+waters+beautiful+dangerous+animal+attacks+news.jpg

OK, after some Santana (THANK YOU BLUE MAGIC MAN!! just the twist to get Friday night started .. hee haa)

... I am going back in for another Lou Baldin listen .. I like his voice, by the way - feel comfortable with his essence - I can understand why AB resonates with him too - there is truth in the man. You bet. I am waiting for my partner to return with our wifi router so I can upload from kindle onto the iPad ... like to start reading him too. Which book, you think, radiates with 5 Calz Stars ?

Debra
11th May 2012, 19:27
:bump::bump::bump::bump::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb: I think belly dancing should be taught from kindergarten - the world over. One session in the morning and one before home time


My memory is shot and I am *way* too lazy to go wading back through 100+ pages to confirm ...

Belly dancing daze ... not sure if this was posted ... but great song so if it was posted before then ... enjoy it again.

HDLLXUaqZxg

Calz
11th May 2012, 19:42
... I am going back in for another Lou Baldin listen .. I like his voice, by the way - feel comfortable with his essence - I can understand why AB resonates with him too - there is truth in the man. You bet. I am waiting for my partner to return with our wifi router so I can upload from kindle onto the iPad ... like to start reading him too. Which book, you think, radiates with 5 Calz Stars ?

3 in print (at least) ... I am into the 3rd.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47sleeper/04images/Sleeper/Book_01.jpg


This was his first one. Written as a "fictional" story with the "wink wink nudge nudge" take what you will from it as reality approach.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YAXTN8Bky_w/TteJloWtFtI/AAAAAAAAAKU/cU6dUq4JJb8/s230/In%2BLeague%2Bwith%2Ba%2Bufo%2B2%2Bedition.jpg


His 2nd. Suggested that the material for this book was presented to him mysteriously by someone he never met before and has not seen since.


3rd book I have not completed is simply a Question/Answer book from the ATS (Above Top Secret) forum for over a year in the 2005-2006 period.


My take thus far is that despite being a lot to swallow ... I find it quite compelling. It is material that almost all people will shove aside (as with several unthinkable topics). It dovetails with the Jim Sparks material (Camelot interview(s) and has a book/dvd).


At this point I find it quite plausible as a historical backdrop ... yet I also feel comfortable with the spiritual information brought through from James Gilliland, Bob Dean and others regarding "higher benevolent beings" coming here now which changes everything. No not falling into the "save me saviour" camp rather it makes sense that the "keepers" of the planet (and myriad life here) are stepping in to stop the insane destruction that is obviously taking place now.


*** adding ***

if you are doing kindle there are a few more available I have not read.

ghostrider
11th May 2012, 19:57
Stirling service, SIR

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vgvqsLhE43g/TM5LRyc7kSI/AAAAAAAAAKY/PpKSyzGDFz0/s320/Halloween+029.jpg

And please .. let me buy you one too, the usual?

http://www.akronlife.com/downloads/670/download/bitblt-400x300-ab4e4b86d4efc7a487391ba5ebf17b0e7a29165e/DSC_0360.jpg


Well thank you ever so much.

Though you have been gone a little while ... you do remember what happens when you start buying me drinks (tho they are free)???


Yes ... I blame myself.


I stopped posting tail feather images :doh:

My bad :tsk:

[zebra thong but you need a magnifying glass to spot it] :eyebrows:


http://www.swimwearplace.com/images/detailed/6/UNR201-2.jpg

she may have a pulse weapon in her underwear, somebody frisk her or I'm running for my landspeeder...

songsfortheotherkind
11th May 2012, 23:23
Here is my map and anyone is welcome to take a copy ---->

I'm liking the look of that map! Here, you can have one of mine too if you like-

http://stagesource.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/you_are_here_galaxy.jpg

http://www.sandtprints.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/You_are_here_image_2.jpg

http://nikolasschiller.com/images/you_are_probably_not_here_web.jpg

Welcome to the universe sized game of 'Where's Wally?'. :D

Calz
11th May 2012, 23:27
http://www.swimwearplace.com/images/detailed/6/UNR201-2.jpg

she may have a pulse weapon in her underwear, somebody frisk her or I'm running for my landspeeder...


Unless you don't have a "pulse" ... I don't think she needs any more "weapons" ... :eyebrows:

songsfortheotherkind
12th May 2012, 00:35
http://wwwsoc.nii.ac.jp/psj/iups/marae4.jpg

A Mãori Põwhiri (welcome)

Haeremai e te manuhiri tǻãrangi
Welcome visitors from afar

Te whare e tu nei
The house standing here
Te marae e takoto nei
The marae lying here
Ténã korua
Greetings to you both
Nga hau e whã
People of the four winds
Nga iwi e tau nei
People gathered here
Ténãkoe
I greet you
I ahau e tu ake nei
While I stand here
Ténã koutou katoa
Greetings to you all.

We are all nga hau e whã here and most of us are te manuhiri tǻãrangi (visitors from afar). I know I am, even in terms of my physical avatar's cultural history; I never knew my father and it is from him that my Maori line comes. I am largely a stranger to that part of my heritage: almost everything I have has been self learned or taught to me by Maoris here in Australia.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--ET8UbQ38s0/TZ9EyPUiYOI/AAAAAAAAAoc/bfCbk2PHawQ/s1600/maori-culture-hongi-greeting_10916_600x450.jpg

Can we not find a way to embrace one another in hongi (the name for that nose to nose greeting) and sui generis?


Hongi is a traditional Maori welcome, which literally means “to share breath”. It is believed that when the two noses meet, people exchange their breath and the visitor becomes one of the local people (tangata whenua), ready to share in all responsibilities and duties.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44385000/jpg/_44385944_circk_getty_416b.jpg

I look to bring the spirit of hongi to that of sui generis, spiraling both concepts ever higher.

I will war with no Being if it is at all possible for me to do so. I am looking forward to getting my formal facial moko (tattoos) when I travel to New Zealand and present my Self to my family clan's marae and am accepted as one of their own.

http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/19366/19366-16/preview.jpg

That will be two Clans formally, and the Clan here informally. I am, apparently, built for living in the interconnection and paradigm of Clan as it exists within sui generis.

songsfortheotherkind
12th May 2012, 01:44
The Warrior's Reminder

"I am awake
My mind is free
I am creative
I love myself
My willpower is strong
I am brave
I practice patience
I don't judge folks
I give, not to receive
I don't expect
I accept
I listen more than I talk
I know I'll change
I know you'll change
I'll hold on one more day

I start over when necessary
I create my own situations
I am cosmic
I do not have the answers
I desire to learn

I am the plan
I am strong
I am weak
I want to grow
I know I will
I take on responsibility

I hide myself from no one
I'm on my path
Warriors walk alone
I won't let my focus change
Taking out the demons in my range."

Erykah Badu



http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/1276134461584824.jpeg

The first song hit so many levels of true.

The poem pierced my heart in beautiful ways.

http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/1288322221360208.jpeg

The second video was blocked to me, and if this is what you actually posted, thank you, because right now here I am undone: The Cure and this song together are stunning in so many ways.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRtFHNen20M


Nothing is ever wasted, especially love
No matter how it seems in the moment
And I will rise, and I will rise and rise again
From the ashes of who I was a heartbeat ago...

Cerridwen
12th May 2012, 02:56
Hey guys! Life outside of the Pub has been pretty busy around here, but I just wanted to stop by and say Hi :)

Off to read what I've missed...

Cerridwen
12th May 2012, 03:29
http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20101104/Pumpkin-Pie-Face-1695882.jpg

Oh, nommy- pie! *piggles a piece and stashes a piece in the fridge for my Cerridwen*



Oooh, just found my slice of pie! Thanks, I love pumpkin too. :hungry:

songsfortheotherkind
12th May 2012, 06:36
A beautiful song in its own right...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZHah-c0hQ&ob=av2e

Calz
12th May 2012, 13:36
Going to submit another morsel to the Pub Patrons for the virus sniff test.

Think this is valid but certainly interested in what others have to offer. Not sure who first posted it but it came to my attention from Lord Sid on another forum. Ties in with the Gnostic materials and Archons etc (love Nash's book as well as Jay Weidner's material on the subject).

Anyhoo ... if we are to be talking about Lou Baldin then the information brought out in this piece is certainly worthy of throwing into the mix for consideration. It could add to the convolution of the matter ... or dramatically simplify it depending on what resonates.


http://www.sharedwisdom.com/article/encounter-jinn-genie-egypt


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs30/f/2008/096/7/9/genie_in_the_bottle_by_patz26.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DJlgifqzwOk/TAlQwuRsiyI/AAAAAAAAAJU/xkVmjxPJ3PM/s1600/fgf.bmp

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/79000/Genie-in-a-Bottle--79180.jpg

Mad Hatter
12th May 2012, 21:50
@Songs
Welcome to the universe sized game of 'Where's Wally?'

Oops, I've spent so much time looking for Carmen Sandiego I had no idea Wally had gone missing... :p

Although I'm pretty sure they are both on this map somewhere...

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LS3wMC2BpxU/0.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 02:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCE_aqeX9ek&feature=related

Go sing, too loud
Make your voice break - Sing it out
Go scream, do shout
Make an earthquake...

You wish fire, would die and turn colder
You wish, your love, could see you grow older
We should always know that we can do anything

Go drum, do go out
Make your hands ache - Play it out
Go march through crowds
Make your day break...

You wish silence, released noise in tremors
You wish, I know it, surrender to summer
We should always know that we can do everything

Go do, you'll know how to
Just let yourself, fall into landslide

Go do, you'll know how to
Just let yourself, give into low tide

Go do!

Tie strings to clouds
Make your own lake - Let it flow
Throw seeds to sprout
Make your own break - Let them grow

Let them grow (Endless summers)
Let them grow (Endless summers)

(Go do endless summers)

You will survive, we'll never stop wonders
You and sunrise will never fall under

You will survive, we'll never stop wonders
You and sunrise will never fall under
We should always know that we can do anything

Go do!

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 02:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOd9zWdH2dQ

You grow, you roar
Although disguised
I know you

You'll learn to know

You grow, you grow like tornado
You grow from the inside
Destroy everything through
Destroy from the inside
Erupt like volcano
You flow through the inside
You kill everything through
You kill from the inside

You'll...
You'll learn to know

I wonder if I'm allowed ever to see
I wonder if I'm allowed to ever be free

You sound so blue
You now are gloom

You're now so blue
You now are gloom

I wonder if I'm allowed just ever to be

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 02:47
Ok. I'm making my Self do this, because I'm no longer worried about experiencing rejection or getting hammered over it. Many sincere and grateful thanks to Borden for getting me over that, and many other blocks I has as well, even if the path wasn't the one I thought I was walking.

*******************************

This is especially written with much love to my beloved gargoyle, my Otherkind family, and the one who watches from the forest.


http://s2.favim.com/orig/30/creative-girl-hands-sparkle-stars-Favim.com-247860.jpg

I'm going to write this out hitman style- I'm just going to sit here and write furiously, ignore everything else, keep the Bat for Lashes /Cure mashup on loop, and write until I can't bear it anymore/life gets in the way. I'll do each installment like that until I've got the basics done.

This is the history that I was born with. It took me decades to find the language: for instance, I still don't have my language from back then, and so I really struggled with words until things came to me from other directions. I can remember my mother's reaction when she first read Eric von Daniken's book Chariots of the Gods- she came to me with the book and a strange look on her face; she said 'this man talks about some of the things that you talk about' and showed me some pictures, and I told her about them in enthusiastic small child fashion.

Her church had a different view of things. I ended up in hospital. We know how that one goes.

I got the name Anunnaki decades ago, when someone told me that they'd read a book by a guy who talked about the same thing and he called that race Anunnaki. I could never hear the old languages, although I used to talk in strange languages in my sleep when I was a kid. I also do when I'm channeling stuff, but that's never for others. We did not call them Anunnaki.

When some of my kids were little we'd play this game where they'd come up to me and start talking in 'gibberish'- I'd flip a switch in my head and talk it back to them and we'd be off. The Empress can keep it up for at least half an hour and the interesting thing is that it settles into a lilting, singsong kind of pattern of words and hand/body movements and a lot of 'pictures' being thrown back and forth, although as soon as we drop out of the space we can't hold onto what we were doing in it. I just know that there is absolutely no question that we understand each other clearly when we're doing that and it gets really interesting when more than two enter that world.

I also know that I am essentially blinded when I can't see someone's energetic signal clearly. It's why writing like this is my least favorite way of doing things. No transmission of signal.

All these elements of every slidey and morphing worlds.

http://dancefilmfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/abyss-dives.jpg

This planet known as Earth is an avatar for a Being. This is no accident. In the beginning there was a vision of the creation of a fully sentient planetary avatar/Being that would be the first of many scattered across the multiverse, a series of dimensional stargates that would link the multiverse with physical portals that could support an almost endless expression of physical and non-physical incarnates. This planet now called Earth is indeed the Mother, the Elder Sister, the beginning of the vision- her daughter/sister worlds are still glowing, spinning into consciousness, connected to the great Song that began all that time/no time ago...

(As an aside, it's ironic, isn't it, all that running around looking for specific stargates and portals and specific doorways, when the whole time they're living on a gigantic stargate...)

Those who are sensitive to the energies here know that there are places on this planet that make one's hair stand on end, where there are clear connections to energies and frequencies that have nothing at all to do with the energy of the homo sapiens. Indeed, there are some places that appear to actively reject homo sapiens energy with a sharp toothed and hostile 'F*UCK OFF'. There are reasons for that, and for now all that is necessary to establish is that there are deliberately created places on this planet for the entry and support of non-human species.

That's because homo sapiens were never the first Beings here and it isn't actually their planet. But that's jumping ahead.

The vision of this great co-creation was that these multidimensional planetary gates would be living Universities, a giant biological and sentient interactive space where the co-creative efforts of a vast amount of expressions of Being could come together and create long term projects and relationships across many dimensions and frequencies. It was the vision of a number of Beings of many expressions, incarnate and non, and was pulled together like the tiny heart of the great spiral galaxies.

It was decided that it would be a planet on which there would be much water, because across the multiverse one of the connectors is water; water is a substance that actively holds memory. As a child I was always playing with the water and it was me that taught my mother how to interact with it by placing her palms flat on the surface and letting her mind go quiet, doing the thing in her body that I've come to call 'expanding' (which is deliberately opening all the internal gates as wide as one can). I just always 'knew' about the water without being able to explain what it was that I knew. Water held information, vast quantities of it. This is one of the reasons the water is under attack- they're trying to wipe all the ancient memories out of the system and cut the physical connection to the rest of the multiverse so that they can get to the vast energetic heart of Gaia. That's the energy they're actually after. They want her heart. It's the last pure energy on this planet.

They're never going to get it, but that's another digression.

So the vision coalesced and we knew that it could only go ahead when the right Being came forward, one that wanted to experience the process of incarnating into a planetary avatar. Not all planets are sentient; some simply hold the space for a specific expression of frequency and some are in the process of becoming sentient. Some, however, are the avatars of great Beings that have chosen the process for their own experience and evolution, as well as expression of their great creative impulse. The Being that I have come to call Gaia is one of these, and for those that can connect with zher on that level, it becomes obvious that zhe is something beyond special.

(Recently someone wrote of connecting to the earth by sending cords down to the heart of the planet. I never, ever have done it that way, nor could I: it's always the other way, I open and connect and the cords come *up* to me. I wait for zhur to connect with me, I don't want to go invading her space, it's interfering with another Being's avatar. Zhe knows I'm there when I'm connecting with her.)

So this stunning and wondrous Being was inspired by the vision and felt the call inside and began the long process of crafting her planetary body. Any kind of avatar creation is a delicate process and interweaving of complex energies, which is why some planets die the same way that some embryos die; it takes a degree of experience- or the support of some other experienced and skilled Beings- to create an avatar that is sufficiently connected to the signal to be able to function and support the download, while not being so solid that the signal is cut. That's in part what death is, too strong an identification with the physical avatar to the point where the download can no longer happen in a high enough way to keep the biology functioning. That's also why there are true immortals on this planet- not everyone is caught in that constriction trap. Then there are those that can hack into the signal of any avatar, but that's not done lightly (*and* needs agreement of the original, before anyone starts talking 'possession' and blah blah blah)- it's all about the fluidity- and non-fluidity- of the avatar process.

It was a wondrous collaboration of Creators and creative Beings from all over the multiverse and no amount of words could ever do justice to the vision and experience; Beings brought together by the joy and possibility and new expressions of connection, co-creation, collaboration and expansion.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xs780uqI1qa8gjpo1_500.jpg

For those that can feel it as they walk the surface of the great Being and beautiful diamond heart of the dream, do you hear the echoes of these great visions? Do you see that the original intention and purpose still beats strongly beneath the virus, zhur pure and unwavering heart still strong in the midst of the noise and onslaught? Do you feel the joy and hear the echoes of the voices in the ground, skipping and whispering past your ears as the wind reaches out and tickles your face, always carrying the trace programs and reminders? Do you immerse your Self in the forest waters and feel the memories and information reaching out to you, urging you to remember something that maddeningly sits at the edge of your mind but almost never moves into the light?

It's not a dream. It's not delusion. It's not fantasy. It's a language that only those who carry the signal can now only get the faintest of snatches, broken and interference signal, searching for the pieces amongst a barrage of white noise. And comparatively few carry that signal now- and it really doesn't come down to a numbers game.

If I was sitting here talking with you instead of writing I would be beaming the energy and signal to you physically, letting my Shine go and reliving the space with you, so that you would know truly what I'm communicating here. The old languages were always meant to be spoken with touch and signal, even if it was across vast distances. Everything has been distorted here.

So the dance began, and the one I call Gaia began her creation process. It was long and intricate, and other dances were going on between co-creators and Creators in other parts of the multiverse, bringing the threads of the multitudes of frequencies back to this point where they could be woven in and interconnected, all the different weavers holding the space for the vibrations and delicate webs.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m20uccTuuq1ro0ixho1_500.jpg

You know this already, don't you- it's in the blood, you see, the blood and the water within are the key and the foundation of the story as it is now: the blood and the water within, carrying the great ancient voices and patterns, fragments and images patterned against the backdrop of every sui generis singularity. The endless corridors and doorways, leading to endless possibilities and expressions- that was the idea.

It still is the idea. Do you really think we'd give up just like that? We are the universal phoenixes, rising upwards again and again, carrying the vision, the intention and purpose, no matter how much opposition there is. Not everyone does that, you know: not every Being is built for that level of focus, not every Being holds the signal.

There are reasons for that. It's become the major part of the unfolding now.

I can never stay on track. Nothing is ever linear with me.

There is a thing about visionaries: often they become so focused on the vision that it never occurs to them that there might a be a flaw in their plan, because it comes from a direction they weren't ever looking in. This was no different. So focused were we on the grand possibilities of the vision, of the positive and the high frequencies, our eyes filled with the delight of connection and the idea of gatesways across the multiverse that it just never occurred to us that it could have other consequences. The enthusiasm of those to whom it would never occur to do harm to any other Being, whose experience and expression of sui generis was absolute. It happens, even now, when those with vision never expect that lower vibration behaviours will come from their discoveries. And even had we known, really, would it have changed anything? Would we have stopped the creation, or tried to change it- or would we have kept going while holding in us the space for things to be different? Just because something can be used for harm, does that mean that the creation of it must be stopped? Chopsticks are such useful tools, yet you can still kill another Being with one. Some things just are.

We didn't look at all the back doors. And things happened as a result: terrible and unspeakably horrendous things that seemed at first to be the ending of the vision.

And then the wonder revealed itself and everything made much more sense- but we're not at that bit yet...

Debra
13th May 2012, 03:15
Thanks Calz,

That was a wonderful read. It shifts my thinking, in a healthy way. And I now have a understanding about orbs. Good message for humans as well, we have no one to blame but ourselves. LOL. Fascinating.

Zebra
http://www.coffeebreakwithlizandkate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/orbs-117-wide-shot-regina.jpg

Going to submit another morsel to the Pub Patrons for the virus sniff test.

Think this is valid but certainly interested in what others have to offer. Not sure who first posted it but it came to my attention from Lord Sid on another forum. Ties in with the Gnostic materials and Archons etc (love Nash's book as well as Jay Weidner's material on the subject).

Anyhoo ... if we are to be talking about Lou Baldin then the information brought out in this piece is certainly worthy of throwing into the mix for consideration. It could add to the convolution of the matter ... or dramatically simplify it depending on what resonates.


http://www.sharedwisdom.com/article/encounter-jinn-genie-egypt

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 03:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQhqikWnQCU

I think it would be impossible to be in a bad mood if one could sing like this. Also, being in possession of such an excellent hat helps.

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 07:05
Going to submit another morsel to the Pub Patrons for the virus sniff test.

Think this is valid but certainly interested in what others have to offer. Not sure who first posted it but it came to my attention from Lord Sid on another forum. Ties in with the Gnostic materials and Archons etc (love Nash's book as well as Jay Weidner's material on the subject).

Anyhoo ... if we are to be talking about Lou Baldin then the information brought out in this piece is certainly worthy of throwing into the mix for consideration. It could add to the convolution of the matter ... or dramatically simplify it depending on what resonates.


http://www.sharedwisdom.com/article/encounter-jinn-genie-egypt


Let me say in advance that this dialogue did not occur in English nor in Arabic but rather in the non-verbal communication modality that I conceive of as ‘think-feeling.’ My job, as always, is to translate and reconstruct the entirety of the contact after the fact from blocks of information that I can recall and transcribe into written notes.

Awesome socks!! I've posted this before I've even read beyond this point, simply because THAT bit there is what I try to describe to so many others and what has, at various time, gotten me hammered. Yay for the 'think-feeling', not so yay for the enormous struggle that it can be to find the words to go with the ten tons of information 'think-feeling' transmits. No wonder I struggle with language so much.

I'm going to respond as I read it.


J: Who can say what is written on another person’s soul? We cannot purposefully influence their destiny without tampering with their agreement.

HW: Agreement with who…?

J: With the higher organizing intelligences...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- this is SO awesome!! Clever Jinni! So clever.


J: Oh… so you know about them… (The Jinn’s field brightened reflecting excitement.) The archons are not true spirits. They are mind beings, mental entities many of who were created by humans as thought-forms. Many of these function as attachments… as mental parasites.

HW: How do they do that?

J: They feed on the energy… on the attention paid to them by humans. This includes the energy generated by human belief systems. But they are not true spirits and they will cease to exist if nobody pays attention to them any more. The ones you call ‘the archons’ are those that we call ‘the deceivers,’ and like us they are not creative. But they can mimic and they can take on forms in response to human belief systems.

*flaps hand excitedly* YES YES YES! So clever, Jinni. So much coming out into the open without getting the Self killed in the process. Always a good move.

Oh nongods, Calz, I'm having a spasm here: my energy body is literally running around the room in glee and I am having to flap a lot. *laughing* Of course, it's going to go south at some point and the virus will kick in somewhere, it always does, but for now it's squee. Also, the stuff with time doesn't just happen with disincarnates fwiw. I still really struggle with it- I thought for awhile I was getting the hang of it but it's all gone south again.

Before I keep reading, here's the clues to where the virus is going to kick in- as soon as hierarchies are mentioned, and bullsh!t spirituality. Well, technically, at this point, the hierarchies have already been mentioned, so they'll get their airing. Wonder where else the heteronomy will kick in...

Oh, and if anyone really thinks they can control a jinn with honey, good luck with that. Yeah right. Stupid enough to swap the sacred name for honey? Never heard of the story of Esau and Jacob? Pffft.


J: The deceivers can take on many forms, drawing from the belief systems of humans… and… there are also visitors who come here from other places.

HW: From other worlds?

J: Yes.

Now, the *really* smart thing to do at the point would have been to ask the jinni to define 'worlds', heh heh...


HW: Who are they and why do they come here?

J: They are ‘others’ and they come here as visitors.

HW: Why do they abduct humans and perform experiments on them?

J: They don’t. That is the deceivers who do that.


ahahahahahahaa.....awesome! *delighted*


J: The Jinn are manifestations of great spiritual force that the Gnostikoi called the Sophia. Everything that exists on this world exists as manifestations of the Sophia.

HW: Who or what is the Sophia?

J: She is the soul of this world.

HW: Does she have a physical aspect?

J: Yes. This world is her physical aspect.

HW: Where did Sophia come from?

J: She came from the center of…

(The Jinn used a strange term to me. In asking for clarification, I was given to understand that the Sophia came from the core of our galaxy.)

*excited bouncing* See what the jinni did there? He's got the uplink going and is using the guy's own paradigms to map the concepts to him. I also love how the guy doesn't know how to negotiate the jinni's reality- he just lets the jinni slide. lol. Clever jinni.

Then some other stuff that is awesome but is too long to quote, then THIS:


HW: Who or what is Yahweh-Jehovah-Allah?

J: He is the arch deceiver. You might call him the lord archon after the terminology of the Gnostikoi.

*dances delightedly*

EH EHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEEHEHEH.

fabbo!

Ok, here's some ten million dollar questions that weren't asked-

are all physical Beings here human? and where did those Beings come from? Were there other races before these ones? Where did they go?

*dances*

There is less virus in this transmission than you might think. The jinni is telling the truth about how Gaia 'dreamed' the Original races into being. It's those that the jinni is referring to as 'human', because some Otherkind don't recognise the homo sapiens as real, due to their disconnection from the cosmic spark. That's what he means about the deceivers, they cannot create: remember how I call the Anunnaki 'makers' instead of creators? They have no cosmic spark, which is why they need to feed off the energy- and why they are starving and becoming more desperate.

The jinni was moving about within the questioner's own prejudices and map- silly man, thinking that the jinni couldn't see those after being specifically caught with the uplink open: the jinni even gave him the heads up about that and the still didn't get it!

Silly billies, always thinking that they're smarter than the Beings they're asking questions of.

*flashes suddenly sharp teeth*

This has made me very Other suddenly. One day these horns are going to sprout from my head for real.

Thanks so much Calz. I'd forgotten about the jinn. This was a cool reminder. :)

http://psdtutsarticles.s3.amazonaws.com/2010/inspiration_eyephotomanipulations/obsidianeyes.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 07:33
http://www.sharedwisdom.com/article/encounter-jinn-genie-egypt

eh, though you know what's likely to happen now, because I didn't have the histories up *before* this- 'oh, you're just bastardising that thing you read!'

oh noes!

See, before, this would have really bothered me and made me jittery, but now I'm laughing at my Self about that and being ok with whatever.

I like this new way much more. :D

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 12:35
http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/11/1ce576b05415dac7459f795f329bebd1.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
13th May 2012, 23:16
does anyone know if he's ok? He messaged me awhile ago and then disappeared. I don't like not knowing if he's alright or not.

That's it. The Club needs a private clubhouse. ><

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 04:39
Oh, I wish I had more hands, I'd be writing three articles at once! So I'm going to have to do it the slow way again- I'll be so thrilled when the think-speech comes back online, and does away with all this confusion.

Ok, I have the Bat for Lashes mashup on continuous loop and I have some time before the youngest beans awake. Let's see what I can get done.


This is a story about some tricky legal contortions that are done by TPTW in the macro and how the population at large does it in the micro. Wait. I have to reboot firefox. Bu*ggers. Brb.

Alright. That's that done. Tricksy contortions.

The way the law- which is the legal fiction that is pushed at individuals every day as being 'law'- fundamentally works is via a method called constru(e)ment. Essentially, this is also how government operates: you vote for an individual based on a few key issues. Politician gets in on this ticket and then starts doing a whole heap of really awful things. Constituents get knickers in a twist and politician responds with 'you voted me in, you now have to accept everything that I do: because you agreed with me on these things here. I have the mandate to rule as I see fit'. The logic of this is that, if you show your agreement with them in one area, you are agreeing with ALL their actions and policies- "I was right here, it therefore means I am right everywhere".

The courts do the same thing:hey consider that if you agree to obey *one* of their fictional acts and statutes, then you are implicating and binding your Self into obedience to them ALL. There is no little bit pregnant with these guys- it's black and white, yes and no, no shades of grey, no doubt or rebuttal- as soon as they get agreement- with full knowing or not- on *ONE THING*, they then push aside every other inherent right and your sui generis and will constantly point to that ONE THING and say 'did you or did you not agree to this?' and when you try to object with that yes, you DID with that ONE THING, and you WEREN'T agreeing to everything else, they refuse to hear anything past the 'Yes I agreed to that' and they put you into a box that you cannot get out of by discussion.

So, construement in politics and in the courts. If you look at the education system, it's the same. Any of the dominant paradigm's institutions, including religion, operate on construement- "did you do this thing?" "yes, but-" "NO BUTS. You are a sinner, that's it! And here is the story about sinners! This is YOU." Blah blah blah.

Now, look at the way most individuals deal with each other. I experience most of my interactions with others as some weird and unpleasant kind of game where I'm leaping about like a fiddler's elbow trying to stay out of their construements and assumptions- 'ah, so you agreed with me here which means-' 'uh, no, actually, it doesn't' 'what do you mean, it doesn't? You agreed with me there, didn't you?' 'Yeah, I did, and that doesn't mean I agree with anything else-' 'oh, so you were lying when you said that?' 'uh, no, not at all-'

0-o

Now, what I have realised about my Self is that I do the same thing. I just think I'm more justified in it, because I generally know more about certain stuff than others, particularly about how energy and frequency behave. What I do is I get caught up in watching the contortions of the other individual and I start getting jittery because I don't want to get trapped in their construements- so I trap them in mine.

Part of how that works is that I assume that if an individual is going to get dodgy *here* then they're going to get dodgy everywhere, and therefore the entire platform is no longer reliable, and I have to immediately go into defense mode, isolate my Self back on my own safe- but distorted and misinterpreting- platform and operate from there. I refuse to come out of there because I simply don't want the pain and struggle of fighting my way out of someone else's noise. So I become the noise that *they* are experiencing. Then connection is broken, defense and constriction become the experience for both, with both refusing to budge because the environment feels utterly unsafe, on the edge of an abyss that neither wants to plunge into again.

At least, that's how it seems.

What's going on underneath is even more interesting. What I'm realising is that these defense patterns are embedded in the dominant paradigm's constant push towards heteronomy and homogeny, even when they appear to be reasonable and explainable to the individual. What lies beneath is always the thing that I'm looking for, and I can see that even when I can create a really clear pattern of events or connections that lead me to particular conclusions, that's not necessarily what's happening: I'm being used again as an agent for the virus, just in a really really subtle way.

And y'all know I'm not going to tolerate *that* crap. Even when getting below the seemingly safe platform temporarily sends me into a feeling of parachute tangled freefall. I don't want to repeat virus stuff blurred under the guise of being my Self; it's not want I want to put out into the collective.

So what is happening, really, in that space? I'm construing someone else into something they don't necessarily see themselves as, under the subconscious justification of 'I have to keep my Self safe--> and now this individual is not safe for me --> because I've experienced things in the past that look like this thing --> and I got hurt badly --> I've learned that others are prepared to sacrifice me if it suits them to do so --> I am not going to let that happen again

http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/fantasy/images/GustaveDore-Andromeda.jpg

--> so because it has some similarities to that event it must be the same sort of thing' --> defense kicks in --> the other person experiences an abrupt disconnect on my part and a wall of defense, with me watching from the other side of the foot thick glass.

http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/57/640x465_10661_Defender_2d_fantasy_defender_girl_woman_warrior_guard_picture_image_digital_art.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2396/dragonagecovershot60734.jpg

I've used these defenses against that construement all of my life. I have never known how to stay out of the firing line without them- again and again, construed into the adult world of bizarre insanity and badness that I couldn't get out of. Even now, the thought of not retreating behind those walls is frightening, and if I could do it *without* construing the other at the same time, I'd do that instead. But I can't see, at this point, how to have both in the space.

See, I'm not talking here about walking away from a clearly toxic situation; that's a different thing entirely, because it's a final action. There's no need for glass shields or defenses, because there's no engagement whatsoever. I make the break and that's it; I go through the cleansing rituals of cutting the energetic cords and I walk away from the whole thing, leaving it behind.

The thing is, there are few connections that can actually be so clearly cut. It's usually *after* everything else has been tried. What I've noticed is, that there's a sense of woundedness that lurks around the glass wall thing; I'm not disconnecting utterly and in fact disconnection is the opposite of what I'm going for; I'm still watching the other individual, the energies and frequencies play out, but I'm doing it behind the thick glass, I have heavy filters and defenses on because I have experienced that only these sorts of connections can gut me.

There's no sui generis in that space. I see that. There might be the idea that I'm living into my sui generis- and in an evolutionary sense, I am- it's just that it's not the place that it looks like. There's no sui generis there for the other individual.

Sometimes that's how it goes, it's true, because you cannot behave towards another with a greater sense of sui generis than they themselves possess. It's why there's no point in having some kinds of discussions with the majority of individuals. It's not arrogance that causes me to simply not engage with the majority, it's the desire to stay on my own path without a huge degree of drama. And I'm not talking about those individuals in this exploration anyway.

I'm talking here about the ones that have approached me with a sense of wanting the high level connections. I've realised there's often something in me waiting for the other shoe to drop, so that I can slam down the defenses the I will not be leashed, chained, construed, sacrificed, but that's not where the problem lies; the problem lies in how I go about that. There's a big difference between ferocious and unyielding defenses, and the graceful ability to sidestep effortlessly, only having to fight when all else has *truly* failed.

If I'm behind the glass wall, something else is going on. I'm not disengaging, I'm engaging with something else: I'm trying to heal the past without getting hurt again, I'm trying to engage the energy that I experienced as being ferocious and that hurt me, in a way that won't allow me to get hurt again. The problem is in the initial premises- by the time I've gone behind the glass the true issues have been running all along in the background.

*turns to look behind me at my glass fortress*

f*uck. There's a part of me that really, really doesn't want me to leave that behind. But if I don't, then I'm stuck in this part of the map. And sometimes, this particular defense is going to be useful, although not in the way I've been using it. I know I can't bring this fortress with me *and* get to where I want to go with those I want to let in. So the key is to get more familiar with where it would be useful to have that sort of defense/shield, and where not.

When I think about that, I see my Self walking through the matrix with the shield beneath my skin, in liquid form. Huh. It only activates if someone tries deliberately to invade or violate the boundaries, but what I'm seeing in that space is that my aura acts far more as a filter than it currently does. The colors are also different, which is interesting. So I'm in the middle of this shifting and pulsating shimmer of light, and it's actually directly responding to me differently than I'm used to.

Sh!t. I'm doing this hack in real time. This is making me extremely jittery because I'm still really not sure on some levels that I want to leave the fortress behind. Crap! I can't bullsh!t my Self either! F*uck. Watch me flounder.

Ok, this post has now turned into a stream of consciousness hack. Scroll down to the line of ****** if you want to skip the process. I'm literally talking to my Self here, I want to keep a record of the process.

http://images.epilogue.net/users/minoukatze/auroranew2.jpg

Hmm. So I come back to the notion that the fortress isn't against those in the matrix, I already have a fluid system of defense against that noise. The fortress is specifically against those that would be a part of the inner sphere. It doesn't happen with women. So it's specifically designed as a male frequency thing. Which means I still experience certain kinds of males and interactions with males of a certain type as interlinked with the fortress. So backhack, backhack...

It's there to defend against something in me. I betray me first, which lets others do things that I experience as betrayal of me, and then I need a defense against the experience and I focus the defense against them, but really it's my own betrayal of Self that I don't want to see. I betray my Self because I won't say 'no' to things that I don't like, because I've bought into the distortions of others about what saying 'no' means. I won't say no because I don't want to be rejected, but I also don't want to be accepted under those terms, so I make them the bad guy. There's also something that they do that triggers the construement thing, but again if I back track that enough they can only do that if I allow it.

Hrm. So does that mean I actually think that most men are essentially betrayers? Hrm. oooooh, a ghost not! Aha! found you! so what are you running- the ghost not of 'all men are betrayers at heart, yes' / 'we know this is not true' / 'the ones we'll come into contact will be betrayers because that's our experience' / 'that's heteronomy-has no sui generis/ 'who cares? men suck' / 'uh-' / 'yeah, that one's not gonna fly' / 'not interested in homogeny, so no such thing as 'men', only individuals / 'well b*ugger it, that's annoying, now I have to treat them as individuals and not a collective' / 'uh-' / 'shut up. I don't want to know.' / 'YOU have been in control of this? no wonder it's been a clusterf*uck!' / 'now we get to be conscious about this too' / 'uh, that doesn't feel so great, actually' / 'it's the only way forward' / 'bugger. ok. yeah, we can see that. le sigh'.

it only works through construement. Always through that. Sui generis and construement of any kind can't co-exist in the same space- construement is a tool of the homogeny, the categorisation of individuals into groups, thus losing their sui generis signal. Huh. So what do I do with the experience of being construed by others? How do I experience that?

*paces back and forth across the signal, watching the patterns, moving my fingers as I search*

It's always the experience of a loss of Self that sets it up. That's the foundation. I stop looking at me. I keep having to orient back to that. That's where it all falls down. I keep getting slammed in these bl*oody images searches too. So I'm on the right track.

I need to have the parameters set differently. I need to keep scanning the signal of connection for the construement and what I'm doing to me and to the other individual. As soon as I move out of sui generis I have to stop everything and reconfigure again, or else it's going to go unconscious and straight back into the noise and construement. The sui generis process means that I do things that slowly, or else lose the signal.

The depths of that which has been lost through the noise of the virus. So it's about getting over my reluctance to use my Self as my own marker. Ok. I get that. I have no idea what that will do to the experience of someone else trying to construe me into their noise, because I don't want to be vulnerable to those who are vicious with that. Which means doing things slowly again, moving more carefully with the trigger spaces, as well as rearranging my own interpretations based on my defenses, which are virus laden distortions.

huh. ok. I can wear that. it's really uncomfortable, and I can wear it.

**************************************************

huh. I wasn't planning on doing that when I sat down to write this several hours ago. So there, have a personal exploration of construement.

http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/f1/0b/arts,erotic,romantic,women,art,artwork-f10b7fa392b8f433de9d1043d579d500_h.jpg

I'm going to take a break now and process that and then write something about the jinni interview.

Calz
14th May 2012, 06:44
This planet known as Earth is an avatar for a Being. This is no accident. In the beginning there was a vision of the creation of a fully sentient planetary avatar/Being that would be the first of many scattered across the multiverse, a series of dimensional stargates that would link the multiverse with physical portals that could support an almost endless expression of physical and non-physical incarnates. This planet now called Earth is indeed the Mother, the Elder Sister, the beginning of the vision- her daughter/sister worlds are still glowing, spinning into consciousness, connected to the great Song that began all that time/no time ago...




http://leleopd.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/044.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4a/Earth_Viewed_From_Space.jpg/768px-Earth_Viewed_From_Space.jpg

http://www.travelimg.org/wallpapers/2012/01/mother-earth-planets-space-universe-wds-widescreen-600x800.jpg

http://spaceadventures.com/Uploads/Image/Galleries/earth/sized_EarthSpaceCover.jpg

Borden
14th May 2012, 07:08
I have mingled briefly among 'normal' people. These people know nothing of astral projection, Djinn, sui generis or difficult horned creatures who write super long posts. They would not appreciate a good pie if it hit them in the face. To them, making points with a weird picture or a song would make no sense. If you presented them with a yodelling man in a magnificent hat they would conclude that there was something wrong with you. Or you were German.

It's given me a reminder that the people who come into my life and actually play any part are all ... otherly. I don't just gravitate to unusual people and vice versa ... I stumble upon them in unlikely circumstances, and the Synchronicity of it all is beautiful. Looking back, even the complete arse-hats I've known for any length of time were otherly too. They can be real trouble, believe me.

It's funny, but I was writing a novel a few years ago, which then turned into a film script, which then turned into yet another half finished project that made me want to put all words, books, films, plots and plans into a conveniently sized box with 'f*** you' written on it, and then drop kick it into space. Anyway, in that plot a rag-tag bunch of diverse people with differing energetic abilities came together, having found each other on the Internet. This plot came to me during quite a Synchronicity storm, one of those periods of evolution and of touching other worlds. It was also nowhere near my thoughts when I joined Avalon, or when Songsy started this thread, or even when we started talking about the etheric pub. Anyway, I was going to call the story 'The Others', except that creepy Nicole Kidman movie put the kibosh on that. A script I had been working on several years ago was called 'Avatar' too. Who do these bloody people think they are? Stealing my script titles ... bah! I'll just have to concentrate on my story of an industrialist billionaire playboy genius who has to build a suit of armour in desperate straits and then goes on to join a team of super-heroes. I'm pretty sure no-one's done anything like that before.

Anyway, here's to the Others.

Calz
14th May 2012, 07:13
Anyway, here's to the Others.

Missing you we have ...

... to the Others ...

16279

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 07:38
http://obscureinternet.com/wp-content/uploads/nicolas_cage_freakout.jpg

Apparently, the Universal Creator is a complete twat in need of some serious meds.


Some threads should simply be dissolved in a vat of lime and buried in an unmarked grave in the woods, and I'm just the ghoul to do it.

http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/579293-bigthumbnail.jpg.

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 07:51
They would not appreciate a good pie if it hit them in the face.


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfixfepshd1qd81jb.gif

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hitler+Spike+Milligan+custard+pie_e57803_3573659.gif

wait, why didn't that work?


Welcome home, you moody bas*tard. Said as only an Australian can say 'bas*tard'.

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/11/xlarge_0f3de06eedc631bdf49f010f147ae9f6.jpg

Calz
14th May 2012, 07:52
http://obscureinternet.com/wp-content/uploads/nicolas_cage_freakout.jpg

Apparently, the Universal Creator is a complete twat in need of some serious meds.


Some threads should simply be dissolved in a vat of lime and buried in an unmarked grave in the woods, and I'm just the ghoul to do it.

http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/579293-bigthumbnail.jpg.


I think I get it ... but I'll hold my tongue :tape:

http://cutedimple.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/www.cutedimple.com_8.jpg

Borden
14th May 2012, 08:04
They would not appreciate a good pie if it hit them in the face.


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfixfepshd1qd81jb.gif

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hitler+Spike+Milligan+custard+pie_e57803_3573659.gif


Welcome home, you moody bas*tard. Said as only an Australian can say 'bas*tard'.

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/11/xlarge_0f3de06eedc631bdf49f010f147ae9f6.jpg

Cheers.

http://www.digitalbusstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Vader-Lightsaber-Lighter.jpg

Calz
14th May 2012, 08:14
Cheers.



Two toasts in one night ... almost like the good ol' days at the Pub ...

http://merimery.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/cheers.jpg

Borden
14th May 2012, 08:21
Join me, Calz, and together ... we can rule the ga-

oh ... sorry. I forgot who I was dealing with.

http://cdn2.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5778/Yoda.jpg

Borden Specials all round!

p.s. that tongue picture will haunt my nightmares. Well played.

Calz
14th May 2012, 08:29
Borden Specials all round!

p.s. that tongue picture will haunt my nightmares. Well played.


Milk it is then ... :hungry:

http://www.coastgrocery.com/pages/uploads/Products/jA627rBordenWholeMilk1Gal.jpg

Okay if I stick with my favorite brand???

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/demotivational-posters-got-milk.jpg

http://www.weidenfeldfamily.com/blogs/rob/uploaded_images/yoda_milk_got-764321.jpg

Borden
14th May 2012, 08:54
Aaaargh ... that carton is an abomination to me! I will explain.

(The boobs are far nicer, by the way, I won't be in the least offended if you stick to your favourite brand!)

When I was given cow's milk as a baby I had a bad reaction to it, and was apparently allergic, though I'm not really the allergic type. The thing is, one of my very early childhood memories is of being at school in London - I think I must have been about five - and being forced to drink cow's milk at some special, designated milk ordeal point in the afternoon. It was an ordeal I truly dreaded. I seem to remember some witlessly stroppy woman insisting I drink it because, for bizarre reasons I don't remember her clarifying successfully, I must. I have no idea what I said to her to try and avoid drinking it, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't, "Hey, beeyatch ... that sh1t don't fly with Borden ... you drink it."

Whatever I said, it didn't work. The milk came in nasty little cartons that were sinisterly bereft of decoration. I was forced to drink it, and it tasted utterly foul to me. I expect we all needed it for our health, because there is no better health giving substance than the horrifically and hormonally over-produced lactation of poor, distraught, tortured, mastitis-ridden creatures for the sucklings of their own, different species, and that has been heat treated, is full of anti-biotics and God knows what else, as well as - in this country - having a four percent allowable pus content. Shyeah ... right.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l87jn73svI1qcbo2to1_500.jpg

I think not!

Calz
14th May 2012, 08:57
Aaaargh ... that carton is an abomination to me! I will explain.

(The boobs are far nicer, by the way, I won't be in the least offended if you stick to your favourite brand!)

When I was given cow's milk as a baby I had a bad reaction to it, and was apparently allergic, though I'm not really the allergic type. The thing is, one of my very early childhood memories is of being at school in London - I think I must have been about five - and being forced to drink cow's milk at some special, designated milk ordeal point in the afternoon. It was an ordeal I truly dreaded. I seem to remember some witlessly stroppy woman insisting I drink it because, for bizarre reasons I don't remember her clarifying successfully, I must. I have no idea what I said to her to try and avoid drinking it, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't, "Hey, beeyatch ... that sh1t don't fly with Borden ... you drink it."

Whatever I said, it didn't work. The milk came in nasty little cartons that were sinisterly bereft of decoration. I was forced to drink it, and it tasted utterly foul to me. I expect we all needed it for our health, because there is no better health giving substance than the horrifically and hormonally over-produced lactation of poor, distraught, tortured, mastitis-ridden creatures for the sucklings of their own, different species, and that has been heat treated, is full of anti-biotics and God knows what else, as well as - in this country - having a four percent allowable pus content. Shyeah ... right.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l87jn73svI1qcbo2to1_500.jpg

I think not!

There there baby ... come to mama ...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-234iQj4ZY70/ToF04XEVxHI/AAAAAAAAAOo/9CdB9LkA_i0/s1600/jordan-carver-milk-6.jpg


Were gonna take care of those nasty old cartons once and for all ...


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0910/got-milk-space-demotivational-poster-1255285694.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 08:59
Welcome home, you moody bas*tard. Said as only an Australian can say 'bas*tard'.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hitler+Spike+Milligan+custard+pie_e57803_3573659.gif

Go here for your present, seeings as the bas*tard thing won't load.




Cheers.

http://www.digitalbusstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Vader-Lightsaber-Lighter.jpg

Oh very very good. Not as good as the one originally planned. Which I hope will still happen. But this was good.

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 09:22
Some threads should simply be dissolved in a vat of lime and buried in an unmarked grave in the woods, and I'm just the ghoul to do it.

http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/579293-bigthumbnail.jpg.



I think I get it ... but I'll hold my tongue :tape:


Really? And here I was thinking that you'd be up for some serious skulking about in the dark getting rid of annoying upstarts. My bad.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsiejxLr2c1qclo1to1_250.jpg

I did love Borden's comment though, and the fruit loops one did make me lol. Still, there's really no room for misogynists in interesting new worlds, especially would-be demigods with seriously screwed attitudes: religion's been swell, but the swelling's gone now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Na1MVp_sTaI/SacH523TEqI/AAAAAAAACAw/s4VieCMShNc/s400/Dabbs_TankGirl.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 09:31
I was going to post something intelligent and expanding regarding the jinni (or djinni) article, but I'm kind of all fake boobed/plastic femaled out. And I'm allergic to milk. So I'm going to revive my Self with yum instead.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l93o71WsWh1qcs1bso1_500.jpg

*happydance* Real women for the win!

I love real curves. I really do.

Calz
14th May 2012, 09:41
... back to otherness it is ...


http://www.escapeintolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/24.jpg

http://niilismo.net/galeria/pictures/relacoes_intimas.jpg

http://www.pix4pix.net/upics/images/10778239050987540438.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2141/1979009440_9208691c28_z.jpg?zz=1

Calz
14th May 2012, 10:18
There is something additional I wanted to elaborate on as well regarding the jinn article as related to the abduction phenomena.








HW: Who are they and why do they come here?

J: They are ‘others’ and they come here as visitors.

HW: Why do they abduct humans and perform experiments on them?

J: They don’t. That is the deceivers who do that.

ahahahahahahaa.....awesome! *delighted*



Read this book a few years back:


DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences

A clinical psychiatrist explores the effects of DMT, one of the most powerful psychedelics known.

• A behind-the-scenes look at the cutting edge of psychedelic research.

• Provides a unique scientific explanation for the phenomenon of alien abduction experiences.

From 1990 to 1995 Dr. Rick Strassman conducted U.S. Government-approved and funded clinical research at the University of New Mexico in which he injected sixty volunteers with DMT, one of the most powerful psychedelics known. His detailed account of those sessions is an extraordinarily riveting inquiry into the nature of the human mind and the therapeutic potential of psychedelics. DMT, a plant-derived chemical found in the psychedelic Amazon brew, ayahuasca, is also manufactured by the human brain. In Strassman's volunteers, it consistently produced near-death and mystical experiences. Many reported convincing encounters with intelligent nonhuman presences, aliens, angels, and spirits. Nearly all felt that the sessions were among the most profound experiences of their lives.

Strassman's research connects DMT with the pineal gland, considered by Hindus to be the site of the seventh chakra and by Rene Descartes to be the seat of the soul. DMT: The Spirit Molecule makes the bold case that DMT, naturally released by the pineal gland, facilitates the soul's movement in and out of the body and is an integral part of the birth and death experiences, as well as the highest states of meditation and even sexual transcendence. Strassman also believes that "alien abduction experiences" are brought on by accidental releases of DMT. If used wisely, DMT could trigger a period of remarkable progress in the scientific exploration of the most mystical regions of the human mind and soul.


http://www.amazon.com/DMT-Molecule-Revolutionary-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0892819278

Many of the subjects in the only controlled testing done with DMT experienced "abductions" or similar type situations while remaining in their beds clearly showing that at least some of the situations are not physical.

... hence ... a possible confirmation about what the jinn/jinni suggest about the "deceivers".

A related article:



The alien abduction story and non-physical reality

William C. Treurniet, July, 2007

Summary. Analysis of the alien abduction story suggests that the sequence of events is comparable to some experiences of the shamanic spirit world as revealed by DMT, a hallucinogenic drug. In the trance state, some people see beings similar to those reported by abductees. Therefore, it is possible that abductees involuntarily manufacture excessive endogenous DMT, which then opens the door to the spirit world. Further, the physical evidence associated with some abductions suggests that happenings in the spirit world can manifest in the physical world. Finally, since the alien abductors appear in the DMT visions, they are inhabitants of the spirit world and likely are not directly responsible for the UFOs seen in the physical world.


Background

Many people recognize the presence of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in the skies around the earth. However, there is little physical evidence available to the public that would help to identify their origin with any degree of certainty. Their nature is further confused by stories about alien abductions. These have created a modern myth that puts a face to the extraterrestrials and attributes motives that may or may not be correct. This paper offers a useful distinction between the abductors and other extraterrestrials that may be visiting our world. It also expands our notion of reality to include an objective spirit world familiar to shamanic traditions.

What we know about UFOs has been gained by consistent observations over the years, and these allow us to list a number of accepted facts regarding the nature of these objects.

Much more: http://www.treurniet.ca/Ufo/AbductionReality.htm

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 10:21
... back to otherness it is ...

pffffffft- since when did my preferences stop you? *laughing*

Although my conversation last night about the jinni *was* really interesting- I was all 'OH, so that's what that was!'

I said I was reviving my *Self* with my own brand of yum, you can post whatever boobed or non-boobed thing you like. *big cheesy grin* I have been actually contemplating what to get my Self for mother's day, even though it's over- it's a toss up between new piercings or some work on my tattoo/ a new one.

Yes. That's what cute 47 year old grandmother's get for mother's day. New tattoos.

*laughing*

Calz
14th May 2012, 10:27
... back to otherness it is ...

pffffffft- since when did my preferences stop you? *laughing*



http://rlv.zcache.com/she_shoots_she_scores_basketball_sticker-p217463482616529286envb3_400.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 10:29
There is something additional I wanted to elaborate on as well regarding the jinn article as related to the abduction phenomena. Read this book a few years back:

[QUOTE]DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences

This is an awesome book that I have in my shelf. Apparently, according to some tests quite a few years ago now, I produce higher than usual levels of DMT naturally. It's my hypothesis that most Otherkind do- it's a precursor to being able to open certain doorways, I think. It appears to be one of the differences between Otherkind and homo sapiens, that DMT link.

Hmm. So that has led me down all kinds of interesting rabbit holes that are interlinked with what I was told about the djinni's answers. Argh. That means writing out that post. I'm not sure my shoulder is up to it. Feck it, I'd rather just sit on skype and blather at you all, to be honest. :P

I'll see how it goes.

PurpleLama
14th May 2012, 12:29
If I find myself being the noise in someones signal,

Then that's the signal for me to get noisy.

PurpleLama
14th May 2012, 12:39
I find only a degree of veracity even in the Gnostic information. Just another lie at another level. I find the material compelling and entertaining, and useful to a certain extent, like any other religious story. So much is just a trick to give your power away when the truth is that the righteous one never left us, because it is us on a very fundamental level. This experience is so much like an interactive video game that is so virtual to be real, when the truth is what we are is so much more an observer than it seems while we are immersed in the reality. Eventually we leave and it's like coming up for a breath of air, and it seems not nearly so vivid, and we haven't any fears, so it's easy to stack up the challenges we will meet. Once again, the best advice of all is what we have on our hitch hikers guide, we just forget to look, sometimes, and be reminded.

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 13:31
I find only a degree of veracity even in the Gnostic information. Just another lie at another level. I find the material compelling and entertaining, and useful to a certain extent, like any other religious story. So much is just a trick to give your power away when the truth is that the righteous one never left us, because it is us on a very fundamental level. This experience is so much like an interactive video game that is so virtual to be real, when the truth is what we are is so much more an observer than it seems while we are immersed in the reality. Eventually we leave and it's like coming up for a breath of air, and it seems not nearly so vivid, and we haven't any fears, so it's easy to stack up the challenges we will meet. Once again, the best advice of all is what we have on our hitch hikers guide, we just forget to look, sometimes, and be reminded.

You rock my socks. I want to write more about this tomorrow. Yes. The Djinn don't lie- they'll just mirror your stuff. lol.

PurpleLama
14th May 2012, 14:44
Nothing on the top but a bucket and a mop
An an illustrated book about birds
You see a lot up there, but don't be scared
Who needs action when you got words?

F0IWHxvswLk

Mad Hatter
14th May 2012, 15:37
NEWSFLASH...just to hand...in a completely different universe it is reported that

the Lord Universal Creator...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kxPG6y8Qctk/S-LeaD7AK6I/AAAAAAAAbPY/NyB0TcafRnk/s800/Bean+Getups.jpg

has put Ms Primordial on notice...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvx1anQmTd1qzmowao1_1280.jpg

that during the upcoming ascension his right hand man...

http://www.silverbulletgunoil.net/images/archangel.jpg

will be making sure that all pulse...

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nice.jpg

weapons...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zMxMhGTLxG8/TRska_eLDuI/AAAAAAAABJY/3zb_hLIuykE/s1600/male+camel+toe.jpg

will be left at the pearly gates because this will prevent further instances of...

http://i.qkme.me/358ue1.jpg

stayed tuned for furter updates...


http://despertando.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/you-r-special.jpg

but you must repent...:wizard:I tells ya... repent !!!

Borden
14th May 2012, 15:47
Wow ... that was some epic pic Ninja prowess, oh sanity-challenged milliner! Excellent work.

I don't know why ... but while hypnotized by the fourth image I kept thinking of a dromedary animal's feet. Hmm ... it must mean something.

Cerridwen
14th May 2012, 18:47
A girlfriend of mine sent this video to me and since it suggests a path to world peace, I figured it might be appreciated here in the Pub. ;)

I know at the very least, Calz will enjoy it.:shocked:

WARNING: Some non-regulars of the Pub might find this offensive.

GCOIeYSwbXs

Borden
14th May 2012, 20:00
Oh well played, Cerridwen! I enjoyed that. (Maybe not as much as Calz will though, I agree!)

On a different yet similarly musical note ... I was thinking about the mixture of depth and silliness that goes on here. We are deeply silly. I post this in a toast to our silliness and our depth and to the bottle I just opened. Not necessarily in that order.

6QgCfnBtF7M

PurpleLama
14th May 2012, 20:20
Just testing out the new avatar. We found this mask at the local thrift store that supports a local animal shelter. FTW

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 22:14
A girlfriend of mine sent this video to me and since it suggests a path to world peace, I figured it might be appreciated here in the Pub. ;)

I know at the very least, Calz will enjoy it.:shocked:

GCOIeYSwbXs

this gave me my first real laughter for the morning. :D As a boob and curves of the female kind fan my Self, I concur. :D

Awesome socks. *happily flashes my boobs at the screen*

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Just testing out the new avatar. We found this mask at the local thrift store that supports a local animal shelter. FTW

love it. the awesomeness of small fry!

songsfortheotherkind
14th May 2012, 22:47
http://www.deviantart.com/download/192275573/religion_demotivational_poster_by_quinn_i_am-d36h4s5.jpg

"give us a saviour!" they said.

"oh ffs, if I give you one will you all shut up and leave me the f*uck alone?" snarked god angrily

"yes yes! verily we will shut the f*uck up!" they all cried. "just give us a saviour! and then we shall be saved!"

"alright, you asked for it" smirked god

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10959/snake-plissken-snake-plissken-religion-demotivational-poster-1259888114.jpg

and the crowd became hushed, until finally a lone voice pierced the silence.

"oh crap. we're screwed."

Calz
14th May 2012, 23:44
I know at the very least, Calz will enjoy it.:shocked:



http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/Auras_3124/Funny%20stuff/WTF.jpg


Iwu-6GxBHN4


http://www.thecomedynet.com/wp-content/gallery/new%20images/startrek%20spock.jpg

Calz
14th May 2012, 23:48
Just testing out the new avatar. We found this mask at the local thrift store that supports a local animal shelter. FTW

http://www.getgreatcodes.com/graphics/funny/18/funnypic257.jpg

Calz
14th May 2012, 23:52
NEWSFLASH...just to hand...in a completely different universe it is reported that

the Lord Universal Creator...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kxPG6y8Qctk/S-LeaD7AK6I/AAAAAAAAbPY/NyB0TcafRnk/s800/Bean+Getups.jpg

has put Ms Primordial on notice...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvx1anQmTd1qzmowao1_1280.jpg

that during the upcoming ascension his right hand man...

http://www.silverbulletgunoil.net/images/archangel.jpg

will be making sure that all pulse...

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nice.jpg

weapons...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zMxMhGTLxG8/TRska_eLDuI/AAAAAAAABJY/3zb_hLIuykE/s1600/male+camel+toe.jpg

will be left at the pearly gates because this will prevent further instances of...

http://i.qkme.me/358ue1.jpg

stayed tuned for furter updates...


http://despertando.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/you-r-special.jpg

but you must repent...:wizard:I tells ya... repent !!!


Yoda dons his deep appreciation hat ...

... preaching to the choir you are here ...

*2bl dares* to post in the appropriate thread I offers ...


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k8/Yourishima_Omauru/1182020661722.jpg

Calz
15th May 2012, 00:06
http://www.deviantart.com/download/192275573/religion_demotivational_poster_by_quinn_i_am-d36h4s5.jpg

"give us a saviour!" they said.

"oh ffs, if I give you one will you all shut up and leave me the f*uck alone?" snarked god angrily

"yes yes! verily we will shut the f*uck up!" they all cried. "just give us a saviour! and then we shall be saved!"

"alright, you asked for it" smirked god

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10959/snake-plissken-snake-plissken-religion-demotivational-poster-1259888114.jpg

and the crowd became hushed, until finally a lone voice pierced the silence.

"oh crap. we're screwed."

http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/religion-funny1.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/funny-pictures-cat-tells-you-his-religion.jpg

Calz
15th May 2012, 02:46
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lyl-E7qZCKk/Tegc6OCFhKI/AAAAAAAAJ1c/VuhYOaLa3wA/s1600/Star+Trek+Enterprise.jpg

http://coolvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/star_trek_caricature-992x661.jpg

http://chzsomuchpun.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-puns-captains-log.jpg

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/star-trek-funny-4.jpg

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/star-trek-funny-17.jpg

http://evansheline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cold-on-star-treck-bridge.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
15th May 2012, 11:35
I've been experimenting with these lately (because frankly I'm a succubus that is sick of starving) and the other night I tried doing something that some call the cosmic draw, which is basically pulling the energy of orgasm back up through the body, distributing it through the organs, and then flowing it up to the head. It's purported to have positive effects on a number of levels.

What actually happened was when the energy got to my heart I went into massive distress and thought I was going to have a heart attack, my heart had gone so berserk. I also get this effect if I do pelvic floor exercises too much or too strongly. I tried the draw again last night and deliberately blocked the energy from going further than my 3rd chakra, redirecting some of the energy up my spine so that it would go to the base of my brain and bypass the heart chakra.

Any ideas as to what the heck is going on with the heart chakra blowout? I'm going to go through the Taoist/Mantak Chia materials that I have to see if there's anything in them about this. It doesn't feel right to me: I am already aware that something odd is happening because my osteo can't get the thoracic vertebrae to move at all, and we're experimenting with different things to assist with that.

Anyone got any ideas or had similar experiences? I'm getting back into my energy practices in a big way for various reasons *and* I've never been able to figure out what this heart chakra thing is- I've had it for ages. I'd love to work through it.

Borden
15th May 2012, 12:09
Stop it with the dirty talk, Songsy! Don't say I didn't warn you when Calz gets here.

I've often wondered what a woman's orgasm is like. They make quite a fuss about them when they're happening so they must be really something. However, I'm not prepared to go the boring route of reincarnation just to find out. Besides, then I'd probably just wonder what men's orgasms are like. If you're wondering, Songsy, for a man, the world turns to opium flavoured candy floss for a few seconds and then you want a cigarette or a sandwich. Then you call her a taxi and kick her out. No, no, I'm kidding. Not about the sandwich though.

Maybe this heart chakra experience is one of the blocks you've mentioned. If you're doing something that directly confronts those blocks (including astral projection) then surely you're identifying them more clearly. Isn't this a good thing? Just be careful ... I don't want you explosively unlocking everything and going all Dark Phoenix on us ... eek!

Right. Enough of that sort of talk. Now I'm going back to being British.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Pictures/4/John-Cleese.jpg

PurpleLama
15th May 2012, 12:52
I am familiar with what you call the cosmic draw. It can be dangerous if one doesn't have control over the rising energy, and I had not seen where there is a proper technique to address this, so, I made my own. (in my early twenties, go figure)

In order to pre-set the energetic pathways, one must focus first on the energetic exchange between the crown and brow chakras first, and use the conscious energy from there to send to the bottom and run subtle energy from the red to the orange, then from the orange to the yellow, and so on, not skipping any chakra space between. It's most dificcult to to from the yellow to the green, and from green to the blue, but if one remembers gratitude at the moment of shifting up into blue, then one proceeds into indigo rather automatically, in my experience.

once the pathways are established, then one can increase the energy in a balanced manner, increasing and increasing, slowly but surely, until the maximum is achieved, a plateau is reached. Then, one may use what you call the cosmic draw, and it will be cosmic indeed.

One starting from scratch and inexperienced may take years, and to try to do it without preparation will burn out upper chakras. This is what's done in many black magical practices, and a solitary practicioner (no pun intended) runs the risk of much confusion and distortion to try to short cut to the end result.

However, one of a positive orientation, one who is already familiar with inner energy work can probably master it in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It's important to realize that the energy produced is far, far more than the human incarnation needs, therefore we should take the healing and wisdom that comes as a side effect, and gift the energy produced back into the higher levels, indigo and violet, and not try to push for anything for ourselves by attempting to harnass said energy.

I'm sure in the realm of sexual tantra there exists a methodology for the same thing, but for aliens incarnate, like us, I suggest the path I've illustrated. When I discovered the realms of tantra I was strongly pushed toward the spiritual practices and away from the sexual practices.

I understand now that I have an incarnational history of misusing sexual energies, so the higher me made sure that I understand now, that it was creator energy in the first place, a holy and hallowed energy, therefore it should be practiced in as pure a form as possible. My experience is quite rich, and modesty will now prevent me from saying more.

Debra
15th May 2012, 12:56
Laugh. Laugh and more !

http://floppingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/man-boobs.jpg
Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.

How you going Songs? Darling, this heart thing ..

Fu#&#D if I know :) Especially doing a reverse orgasm, I prefer just to let it express itself and go the way - it is supposed to go. That´s where I skip the cigarette, Borden, and go straight for the sandwich.

You are a woman of breaking the mould Songs, I salute you for taking us into this new territory. I think maybe I have done one of these - but I thought it was a surprise kundalini - I would not call it a cosmic draw but if there is a distinction, can you tell me? I was in a workshop - medical intuition - my head started to hurt, the facilitator saw something was happening before I did.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/11/07/science/brain.600.jpg
She came up to me, touched me on the arm and said ''go with it, it's about when you were a doctor''
http://www.superhqwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/blown_away-1920x1200.jpg
It came up like a lava storm from some ancient time. I spoke in tongues so wild, and so loudly. I think I moved through every chakra simultaneously. It was so quick.
http://magnetica.ru/gallery/wp-content/uploads/empty.jpg
It left me quite humble.
All I could say was: who the f#€k am I?

old story it was, so hidden, and it all came up -- I was not a nice person in that life.

I am now, though. I am lovely :p

Calz
15th May 2012, 15:30
I've been experimenting with these lately (because frankly I'm a succubus that is sick of starving)







Stop it with the dirty talk, Songsy! Don't say I didn't warn you when Calz gets here.





Suck a *WHAT*???

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1003/magic-school-bus-funny-demotivational-poster-1268675214.jpg




which is basically pulling the energy of orgasm back up through the body, distributing it through the organs, and then flowing it up to the head.



These folks have done a great job for me in the past ...

http://www.thecityofstlouis.com/moving/st-louis-missouri-moving-rogers-piano-organ-moving-co.gif





Anyone got any ideas or had similar experiences?




... is that another trick question???


http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Aint_Logical_Spock.jpg

Calz
15th May 2012, 16:19
I am familiar with what you call the cosmic draw.



Wizards ... gotta luv em :wub: :wizard:

http://allianceangst.com/galeria/desenhos/slides/Luis%20Royo%20-%20Fantasy%20Art%20-%20Wizard's%20Land.jpg

http://www.allendouglasstudio.com/images/lg_wizardscalling.jpg

http://images.elfwood.com/art/u/w/uwejarling/demon_wizard.jpg

http://images2.alphacoders.com/856/1024-768-85622.jpg

http://www.fantasy-graphic.com/gallery/Fgallery2-3.jpg

Calz
15th May 2012, 17:03
Laugh. Laugh and more !

http://floppingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/man-boobs.jpg
Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.



http://www.crazychops.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/facebelly.jpg


Yes I "lurked" you out in the jungle ... actually handled yourself quite well :thumb:


http://www.societiesmirror.com/image/funny-pictures/1107/-funny-pictures-1309626345.jpg

Cerridwen
15th May 2012, 17:38
I know at the very least, Calz will enjoy it.:shocked:



http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/Auras_3124/Funny%20stuff/WTF.jpg




*Laughing* Calz, don't you dare try and tell me you didn't enjoy those boobies!

Debra
15th May 2012, 17:53
*Laughing* Calz, don't you dare try and tell me you didn't enjoy those boobies![/QUOTE]

I think Calz is very happy, Cerridwen :p

Calz
15th May 2012, 17:53
I know at the very least, Calz will enjoy it.:shocked:



http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/Auras_3124/Funny%20stuff/WTF.jpg




*Laughing* Calz, don't you dare try and tell me you didn't enjoy those boobies!

I dunno Cerridwen.

With that innocent angelic avatar it damn near makes me want to go confess to a priest http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pop.gif

Problem is ... he is working on some issues himself ... :shocked: :gaah:

http://supersox.webs.com/photos/Funny%20Pictures/scared%20funny%20cat.jpg

Cerridwen
15th May 2012, 17:53
Laugh. Laugh and more !


Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.

You're very welcome! I think the part when he asked the guys showed off theirs is when I laughed the hardest!




I am now, though. I am lovely :p

Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!:yes4:

Debra
15th May 2012, 18:02
http://www.crazychops.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/facebelly.jpg

Oi oi oi, I know my man boobies portrait was a bit in your face but that is a pleasant nightmare, if I ever saw one :)

Yes I "lurked" you out in the jungle ... actually handled yourself quite well :thumb:
Thanking you kindly Blue crusader, I hoped you would jump in and help me out. Next time you feel like a bit of rumble in the jungle, give me q yell. We'll make it a party. Mwahahahaha!

http://www.societiesmirror.com/image/funny-pictures/1107/-funny-pictures-1309626345.jpg
I love this photo. That´s a prize.

I am now going to check out www.floppingout.com see what else they got ;)

Calz
15th May 2012, 18:05
Laugh. Laugh and more !


Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.

You're very welcome! I think the part when he asked the guys showed off theirs is when I laughed the hardest!




I am now, though. I am lovely :p

Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!:yes4:



Indeed ... actually all the Pub Patrons are ... missing those that are not here.


http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/blue-zebra-sandy-tracey.jpg

Calz
15th May 2012, 18:11
Thanking you kindly Blue crusader, I hoped you would jump in and help me out. Next time you feel like a bit of rumble in the jungle, give me q yell. We'll make it a party. Mwahahahaha!



Perhaps ... I am rather enjoying my retirement in the Pub however ...

http://shadowness.com/file/item3/71838/image_t6.jpg

Debra
15th May 2012, 18:21
Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!:yes4:

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens3032522module27989912photo_1239969335Cerwiden.jpg

Ms Cerridwen, you are the sweetest witch I know :o

Calz
15th May 2012, 18:34
Ms Cerridwen, you are sweetest witch I know :o



... this one has a little 'tude as well ... tho I am in total agreement :hail:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfox8dOTgV1qd3ppyo1_500.jpg

Debra
15th May 2012, 18:48
Hey Calz, Cerridwen, Purple Lama (love your new shoes), you want to retire for a spell:

http://blogbuildingu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/biosphere.jpg

in this little biosphere. We can think about who to visit on the astral plane .. and bring back

p.s. I had a Chianski sighting the other day - he was in prime form, turned another thread into an art form - all about ''the thanks button'' :biggrin:


BALLS!!! not an honest poster among you in this thread!

aside from the posts i like or agree with, i'll thank...

-really long posts that i'm too lazy to read but are written by posters i otherwise respect and thanked by posters i respect.

-in threads where i have started an insidious trend of thanking everyone, and don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by leaving them out (1 member once said to me (and this member shall remain anonymous unless she/he wants to claim this comment) in response to all the annoying thanking she/he felt compelled to do, that the only way out would be to fake their own death and return as someone who never thanked anyone. i laughed for days over this. thank you anonymous)

-i thank people who thank me a lot, even if i don't really like their posts, because i don't want to hurt their feelings.

-i thank new members because i want them to feel comfortable here

-i sometimes wonder why those i thank quite often do not thank me, when clearly my post has been brilliantly funny or witty, and often times wonder if they are simply jealous of my God-given brilliance and uncanny ability with words

-i'm often annoyed with those that are stingy with their thanks, though i secretly admire them because now that i've become quite liberal with mine, i've become annoyed at what i feel has become a responsibility, or an obligation

-confession: i once wanted my thanks to mean something, and rarely handed them out, and even pictured the elated faces of those who had received my divine endorsement, ordering their spouses and family members to the computer to witness the miracle -- "look honey, ive been thanked by CHINASKI!!! bloody hell, i can die now in peace!" Bill Ryan has mastered this technique, and he must feel like God when he clicks that little button, he being about as stubborn with it as a toddler with their favorite toy. i tend to think he gets a queer satisfaction out of this. ( i would!)

-i hypocritically thank people who single me out for praise, even when i can't stand them

-when i start a thread, which i rarely do, i feel a compulsive need to thank each and every poster for participating in it, and if i discover that i have missed someone, i'm overcome by persistent feelings of guilt, sometimes imagining that person as an unstable, emotionally disturbed individual whose sensitivity might cause them to overdose on pills or jump over a cliff at the slightest feelings of neglect; and not only will i go back and thank them, i'll also single their post out for special attention, replying to and praising it as if it had been written by God himself, even if it was the sh!ttiest post ive ever read.

-sometimes i'll thank a poster i like when they're debating with another poster i don't like -- even when i don't necessarily agree with it -- just to be spiteful.

-last but not least... sometimes, when i write something especially brilliant, i wish i could thank myself; and often wonder about the relative intelligence of the forum if said post is not recognized for the inherent genius that is clearly demonstrated. if the post *is* recognized by the forum, it is a wonderful ego boost and i love sitting back and watching the thanks pile up.


http://www.1970company.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/bukowski.jpg

*Hope he returns soon*

Calz
15th May 2012, 18:50
Yes ... he will post to the Pub soon :wub:

Mike
15th May 2012, 18:58
hey guys,

ol Chinaski is alive n well n kickin n will be back soon enough. i just finally got a functional computer after a series of scenarios that could have easily been lifted from monty python.

just posting this msg because it has been brought to my attention that there are a few of you lovely people that were actually concerned for my well-being, and i won't have people worrying needlessly about me. i have an enormous affection for you guys and *do* appreciate your concern, but please know that all is well;)

ive actually developed a few productive habits since my computer initially went down, and have been delicately nurturing them these last few weeks. ive been doing all that writing ive been threatening to do, and also attempting to get fit, with -- believe it or not--a degree of success. also, since my neighbors were struck dumb with my uncanny brilliance for house painting (just painted mine) ive received a few requests to do theirs, which i happily obliged since i just recently quit my job and am now in need of a few coins for bread n butter -- you know how it is. so ive been a little busy.

i expect to be back posting in a couple weeks or so. miss you guys and we'll chat soon.

Calz
15th May 2012, 19:05
Thanks for letting us now ... ya ol' Pubster.

You know you always have a spot for you reserved here at the Pub.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/NixonTickerTapeParadeNYC1960.jpg/1024px-NixonTickerTapeParadeNYC1960.jpg

PurpleLama
15th May 2012, 22:36
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2e6aagcGu1r3tlt0o1_1280.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
15th May 2012, 23:11
Stop it with the dirty talk, Songsy! Don't say I didn't warn you when Calz gets here. Pfffft: if I was going to talk dirty...


If you're wondering, Songsy, for a man, the world turns to opium flavoured candy floss for a few seconds and then you want a cigarette or a sandwich. Then you call her a taxi and kick her out. No, no, I'm kidding. Not about the sandwich though.

*laughing* Or the cigarette.


Maybe this heart chakra experience is one of the blocks you've mentioned. If you're doing something that directly confronts those blocks (including astral projection) then surely you're identifying them more clearly. Isn't this a good thing? Just be careful ... I don't want you explosively unlocking everything and going all Dark Phoenix on us ... eek!

Hrm, now we get interesting. It would seem that I'm being called back to some intense energy practices because I'm actively seeking to create a different kind of dissociation between my avatar and my Self than I had previously; the old dissociation was a trauma response and I couldn't use it to good effect, except to play with the multiplicity thing. Recently I had a situation happen with the Triffid Hunter (for those unsure, he's my partner here) that triggered me so badly something happened that surprised and kind of disturbed me: I switched and a different aspect emerged. I had no idea that a) we could still do that or that b) it could happen if I got distressed enough and c) that our subconscious had organised itself differently than previously, which means I have no idea who that particular aspect was, although I liked her a lot when I woke up again. :P

So lots of valuable lessons were learned recently and I think it's got something to do with trying to trigger the astral capability again. So I'm having to map things differently: I think I'm being told 'choose your vehicle consciously' because there ARE parts of me that would really, really like to go right hand of god on a few situations, individuals and groups. I have to get that clearer before going into certain territories, I'm being shown, because I learned in the years of the subway station training all those years ago that in certain situations I absolutely would go my own particular brand of Dark Phoenix. It's one of the reasons why I never let my Self lose my temper until I was in my mid twenties, the things I saw in that place.

And now I'm beginning to dream again, and my dreams are laced with the shadows of old darkness that I'm working through- I'm not some frightened kid anymore and if I'm going to use this energy at any point I'll be doing it with utterly zero regret or doubt, so clearly, getting a handle on the heart chakra thing is a part of that. The dreams are showing me some very strange things...

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 02:37
I am familiar with what you call the cosmic draw. It can be dangerous if one doesn't have control over the rising energy, and I had not seen where there is a proper technique to address this, so, I made my own. (in my early twenties, go figure)

I can remember having a really strong connection with that energy when I was younger; apparently I leaked it all the time and that's why in part I had the experiences with the masculine that I had, which also had to do with past experiences of being powerful and repeatedly having my throat cut for it. I found it not ironic that the oracle handle got pointed at me in semi jest here, because I've been that before, and other things. The masculine and I have not danced well together in the past and this incarnation I'm being invited to get a handle on that. Right now it feels like I need to do it at bullet train speed and there are all these mundane and not so mundane things getting in the way. Torn between worlds, still having little idea how to balance them- or if that's even possible.


In order to pre-set the energetic pathways, one must focus first on the energetic exchange between the crown and brow chakras first,

*nodding* this has been a focus of mine for the past 8 months or so. The electric shock things come and go, although getting really refined in my diet seems to be making a difference there. Apparently the idea is for me to get more ghosty within this avatar in a way that isn't difficult as it was when I was dissociated previously- I'm aiming for intentional dissociation rather than trauma response. It's tricksy territory because there are quite a number of 'me's' that I can choose from when I get even a little further dissociated than I am now, so I have to keep the thread connected to that as well. Shifting up and down the chakras is something I've been practicing for awhile now and what I've noticed is that my area of difficulty is between the 3rd and 4th- the energy just doesn't like to do that bridge at all, unless I use the kundalini pathway up my spine and then flow *down* from the 5th to the 4th: doing things this way causes no problems whatsoever.

Now that I'm mapping it out in detail here, I'm wondering if this is a result of the dissociation I'm constantly naturally pointed towards as a practice. I wonder if the situation has more to do with a) our individual complex hybridisations and b) our purpose and intentions within our avatar.

See, I thought that I'd incarnated this time with such huge sexual energy and power that it was to engage the masculine that way, but it just has never, ever worked out that way in the physical. I have two lovers/partners in the energetic realms, one of whom is a long, long term partner who I experience as patiently waiting behind the veil for it to come down and for us to be reunited; my partner here in the physical is aware of my Otherkind partners and accepts that at some point things are going to be quite busy, but he's ok with that because he's yet another physical partner I have acquired that isn't interested in sex. It's always the same- starts off one way and goes the other, and I'm done with trying to figure that one out, so I'm following other paths with it now.

It seems I'm only built for pure Otherkind energies and that there's some issue with me bringing the physical into the extreme energies that I hold in the otherrealms. I've spent a long time trying to merge them but I'm now wondering if the lessons I'm getting on *increasing* the dissociation are connected to this as well. This would make the direction thing with the 4th and 5th make sense, at least to me. Everything I experience seems to point that way. I have been told so many times, by so many different kinds of individuals, including the kinesiologist that used to work on me knowing I wasn't human, that I am an anomaly here, that there's something about me here that just doesn't fit, that isn't going to no matter how much I try and that in trying I'm wasting valuable time that could be better spent doing what I'm better at doing, which partly consists of being wyrd and strange. lol.

The gratitude pathway flows *down* for me, not up, so that's something that caused me to get onto that flow of thinking I just wrote out. Even when I visualise the pathways coming up from Gaia, going into my feet and flowing the physical connection to me ( I think I've written before that I never send cords or roots from my avatar *down* to Gaia, I open the gates and wait for her to send them *up* and if I map the energy pathway that happens when I do that, the same thing happens- bypass the heart on the up route, and flow down once it's come up over my crown.

I just had a long phone conversation with a friend and got more info about that pattern in me, so it seems that this exploration is bearing good fruit. :D

I want to come back to this conversation when I'm back from my osteo appointment, because there are really good things you've said that I want to explore more. It would appear that my sui generis is leading me away from human expression completely now, including with how my succubus nature expresses itself. I'm exploring the notion that on those energetic levels, it's not going to work in connection with the physical masculine for me here and that I need to let go those old ideas and see what actually shows up.

http://www.scenicreflections.com/ithumbs/My%20Solitary%20Ground%20Wallpaper__yvt2.jpg



once the pathways are established, then one can increase the energy in a balanced manner, increasing and increasing, slowly but surely, until the maximum is achieved, a plateau is reached. Then, one may use what you call the cosmic draw, and it will be cosmic indeed.

One starting from scratch and inexperienced may take years, and to try to do it without preparation will burn out upper chakras. This is what's done in many black magical practices, and a solitary practicioner (no pun intended) runs the risk of much confusion and distortion to try to short cut to the end result.

However, one of a positive orientation, one who is already familiar with inner energy work can probably master it in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It's important to realize that the energy produced is far, far more than the human incarnation needs, therefore we should take the healing and wisdom that comes as a side effect, and gift the energy produced back into the higher levels, indigo and violet, and not try to push for anything for ourselves by attempting to harnass said energy.

I'm sure in the realm of sexual tantra there exists a methodology for the same thing, but for aliens incarnate, like us, I suggest the path I've illustrated. When I discovered the realms of tantra I was strongly pushed toward the spiritual practices and away from the sexual practices.

I understand now that I have an incarnational history of misusing sexual energies, so the higher me made sure that I understand now, that it was creator energy in the first place, a holy and hallowed energy, therefore it should be practiced in as pure a form as possible. My experience is quite rich, and modesty will now prevent me from saying more.

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 11:20
http://www.scenicreflections.com/ithumbs/My%20Solitary%20Ground%20Wallpaper__yvt2.jpg



once the pathways are established, then one can increase the energy in a balanced manner, increasing and increasing, slowly but surely, until the maximum is achieved, a plateau is reached. Then, one may use what you call the cosmic draw, and it will be cosmic indeed.

*nodding* here's what I'm thinking I'm going to do: I'm going to enlist Pan and my Otherkind partner's assistance and see if there are things that I need to do on a physical level to align the otherrealms energy with mine while in the physical avatar. I was thinking today about this and very clearly got the image of the pale Twins in the movie that pretended to be the Matrix sequel: that ability is what I'm going for, I've had it before and I want it back. I kept mapping what they were doing and essentially they have a very very fluid and casual relationship with the physical avatars they were manifesting. That's what I want- that fluidity- which means, I think, creating a different relationship with the whole physical avatar process and how it works for me as a singularity. Achieving this while staying connected to my fundamentally sexual expression of the creator energy is the big game for me.

You mentioned in the beginning that you had to craft your own path in your early 20's- I think that this requirement of crafting our own path is definitely part of the process. I'm a sui generis, unique Being and I really need to follow my own guidebook. You've mentioned that recently too and I'm in absolute agreement.


However, one of a positive orientation, one who is already familiar with inner energy work can probably master it in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It's important to realize that the energy produced is far, far more than the human incarnation needs, therefore we should take the healing and wisdom that comes as a side effect, and gift the energy produced back into the higher levels, indigo and violet, and not try to push for anything for ourselves by attempting to harness said energy.

heh, I'm not going for the human incarnation thingie, I'm aiming for otherrealms expressions so this might be the key; I'm also wanting to experiment and see if externalising the energy in particular ways works. Fundamentally I want to be able to gather a big ball of really high frequency and point it at the virus source, see what happens. This is one of the ways I can gather that kind of energy.


I'm sure in the realm of sexual tantra there exists a methodology for the same thing, but for aliens incarnate, like us, I suggest the path I've illustrated. When I discovered the realms of tantra I was strongly pushed toward the spiritual practices and away from the sexual practices.

I understand now that I have an incarnational history of misusing sexual energies, so the higher me made sure that I understand now, that it was creator energy in the first place, a holy and hallowed energy, therefore it should be practiced in as pure a form as possible. My experience is quite rich, and modesty will now prevent me from saying more.

Interesting, your perspective and experience. I used to go for the holy and hallowed but I'm learning to accept that I'm apparently not that kind of creature, or that for some reason this experience is not part of my own here; I am learning to be peaceful and accepting that for some reason, that way of Being just isn't on my radar and I'm not going to look for it anymore. If it happens then I'll be surprised and intrigued; I'm no longer convinced that such a thing happens here for Beings like me, or maybe it's just a me thing. I'm aware of the profound connections I experience in the otherrealms and yet I still could not describe them in the words you've used; it's more... *waves hands* Other, horns and falling through worlds and interlocking wings and tumbling through frequencies with purring noises and delighted roaring, wide open gates and minds and feeding and exchanges and love that has less.. *circles hands*- fragility, do you know what I mean? I've looked into some of the tantra practices and have fallen off my chair laughing at Pan's quizzical expressions at the heartfelt staring into each other's eyes and suchforth.

Urhg, I keep re-reading this and it keeps reading as possibly dismissive or similar of your path; it's absolutely anything but that, I fully respect and appreciate your experience of both finding your way and what you found there. In some ways I'm envious, you seem to have found things that I thought I was here to experience and am accepting now that I'm not; I was actually trying to simply convey that some of what you talk about are things I understand conceptually but not experientially and why this is so.

It's a different process with think-feeling, so apparently I just suck hugely at the expressions more described as spiritual. I'm learning to accept that and find joy in it, while utterly accepting that it's a different experience for others. I'm enjoying the process of discovering my own way and am at the same time honoring the sadness that I feel at having to leave some ideas behind: while I have carried these as truly as I could, the concepts simply appear to be revealing themselves as not really mine and I'm working through the process of putting them down without regret. :)

http://www.thefairygathering.com/images/monika-ptok-byard/the-green-fairy.jpg

This is really helping me get some things sorted. Thankyou so much for being prepared to share it with me. Aliens incarnate, indeed... :P

Borden
16th May 2012, 11:31
This may not be very relevant, but I need to express it to my fellow pubbers ...

I went and saw Avengers with my brother yesterday. He is as much a long time Marvel geek as I am. We left the cinema very, very, very happy. If you haven't seen it, and even if you know nothing about the characters I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's enormous fun, and has a lot more big laughs than you might expect.

Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

bkBg_ULvwCY

Nuff said.

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 11:52
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2e6aagcGu1r3tlt0o1_1280.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GJz3bPFtDhc/TMFQ5D8axUI/AAAAAAAAAoM/s1JUPJAxlFA/s1600/weed.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 11:58
Hey Chinaski ...

You think you can just waltz back in here like nothing happened when I know you've been posting in other threads? Is it because this thread has put on a few pounds? Is this thread not blonde enough for you? You're all the same.

Seriously though, your post in the thread about the 'thanks' button was first class and hilarious. Much giggling occurred here.

Calz
16th May 2012, 11:59
This may not be very relevant, but I need to express it to my fellow pubbers ...

I went and saw Avengers with my brother yesterday. He is as much a long time Marvel geek as I am. We left the cinema very, very, very happy. If you haven't seen it, and even if you know nothing about the characters I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's enormous fun, and has a lot more big laughs than you might expect.

Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

bkBg_ULvwCY

Nuff said.

Yep.

I posted something in H&N after taking my family.

More than once I was laughing so hard it brought tears.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/avengers-promo2-570x557.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 11:59
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/27/6b/dramatic,face,girl,woman,photography,art-276b6985fdb88cf6ba2e3ef5d053e651_h.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 12:05
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2e6aagcGu1r3tlt0o1_1280.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GJz3bPFtDhc/TMFQ5D8axUI/AAAAAAAAAoM/s1JUPJAxlFA/s1600/weed.jpg


Traveling back in time yous makes me feels ... :smokin:

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/12/4/129044444867557861.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429233_353807324663325_100001021824383_1195166_524171444_n.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 12:13
http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/27/6b/dramatic,face,girl,woman,photography,art-276b6985fdb88cf6ba2e3ef5d053e651_h.jpg


... yes??? ... :shocked:


http://dreamcatcher.net/images/uploads/6037-medium.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_P0qyDKWeYow/TMZPwa8gniI/AAAAAAAACc4/-L0HoUtpsv8/s1600/mind_meld.jpg

Debra
16th May 2012, 12:28
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m345c7L1JD1qhprtmo1_1280.gif

The expressions on here are taking some interesting, new directions ..

Borden
16th May 2012, 12:33
I just went and looked, Calz ... I absolutely agree. I don't want to say what exactly in case it might spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but there are some properly huge laughs. Hulk has a couple of great moments, and as for Downey jnr's Tony Stark ... class in a glass. He is utterly brilliant. I am so bubbling with Marvel joy that I'd better shut up. I could wax geek for pages about how amazing and wonderful the movie is. Me and my bro stayed sat while the credits rolled, you know, in case of extras, and the guy who does the walking through the cinema thing at the end started a conversation with us. He was lovely, and said he'd seen it no end of times, because of his hanging around at the cinema job, and it never gets old. I'm still grinning just remembering some of the more excellent moments ... and there were quite a few.

I will wait for the DVD release to relive my Marvel joy. I don't do the naughty internet thing of watching films without paying for them. My thinking is that if I do that ... the studios won't find it financially tenable to make such expensive films, and I like them. So I'm a good boy in that respect. Something like 80% of films make a financial loss, did you know that? The studios do, and they don't mind. They rely on their tentpole movies for success, and the smaller movies are a way of keeping a workforce of creatives running. It's crazy at first glance, but pretty simple if you think about it. And of course, they're always aware that more modestly budgeted films can take off, in which case it's Christmas. When something like Avengers comes along, it's win for everybody.

And now I'll shut up about films that cause me to geek-gasm.

Here is what it looks like when me and Songsy have one of our arguments.

fCP2-Bfhy04

I would like to add that in my estimation this was not a particularly good hair day for Mr. Bowie. But ... oh my God, I love that woman's voice.

Calz
16th May 2012, 12:39
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m345c7L1JD1qhprtmo1_1280.gif

The expressions on here are taking some interesting, new directions ..


Gosh ... that almost reminds me of ... nah ... couldn't be ...


http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/funny-pictures-cat-does-not-want-to-get-neutered.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 12:43
Okay Calz, that one made me laugh for a prolonged length of time. I salute you, sir!

By the way, where is Bob? Do people know anything I don't? I hope Mazie is doing well and he will be back soon.

Cerridwen
16th May 2012, 12:44
Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

Nuff said.

Ok, I'm game for playing dress up. Hmmm... there were way more male superheroes than females, who are my choices? Cause, I'm definitely female.;)

Calz
16th May 2012, 12:50
Here is what it looks like when me and Songsy have one of our arguments.




See there is where you got me Borden ... you have *dramatically* more will power than me.

Any time I even get *close* to having an argument with Songsie she whips this sh!t out on me and I am off to lala land ...


16339


http://beyondthebunker.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/adam-hughes-jedibabes.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 12:51
Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

Nuff said.

Ok, I'm game for playing dress up. Hmmm... there were way more male superheroes than females, who are my choices? Cause, I'm definitely female.;)

Well, you can either be Black Widow ... or Black Widow. No! We need new Avengers! Listen, as a long ago avid Marvel reader, the Avengers had a huge roster and there are plenty to pick from, or you can just invent your own. Me? I need to grow my hair long, spend a couple of years in the gym and get some magic Asgardian dwarves to make a really big hammer for me. The only problem with that is that I'm actually far more like Loki than any of the Avengers. Not the killing people thing though, I'm not cool with that. That's naughty.

Pub Club ... assemble!

Borden
16th May 2012, 13:00
Odin's knickers! Don't post your weaknesses, Calz! That's just what they want ... don't you know from a recent thread that women are evil? Apparently God doesn't like them, and that means God is either a conflicted lesbian or a misogynist. I wouldn't trust this God person to use a stapler, let alone run the universe.

Calz
16th May 2012, 13:02
Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

Nuff said.

Ok, I'm game for playing dress up. Hmmm... there were way more male superheroes than females, who are my choices? Cause, I'm definitely female.;)


Oh Bugger ... gonna get myself in *all* kinds of trouble if I don't watch my step this time :decision:

... well ...

... you could be the sister of someone we know very well???


http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_23969/subcat_62865/She-Thor.jpg

http://www.classyartwork.com/images/superhero/green_girl_superhero.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 13:07
Odin's knickers! Don't post your weaknesses, Calz! That's just what they want ... don't you know from a recent thread that women are evil? Apparently God doesn't like them, and that means God is either a conflicted lesbian or a misogynist. I wouldn't trust this God person to use a stapler, let alone run the universe.


Can you pick him (OP concocter) out of a lineup???


http://1stbbw.com/blog/flagellation/flogging-02.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 13:47
Wow, Calz ... that's some pretty heavy giveth and taketh away stuff going on there ... lady Thor I like, self-flagellation I do not!

Calz
16th May 2012, 13:55
Wow, Calz ... that's some pretty heavy giveth and taketh away stuff going on there ... lady Thor I like, self-flagellation I do not!

Point being is not that what the *concocter* of *said thread* doing???

Here ... same idea ... different image :)

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Borden
16th May 2012, 14:11
I think that fellow's locked into a very small and bleak universe, Calz. By the way, that picture of an engorged Data ... genius! I do really wonder what it is that inspires some people to post. I also find people that post some of those things to be almost paradoxical. I mean, when you buy a computer I know everything's made pretty easy for you, with colour coded ports and 'help' instructions and so on ... but even so. When someone who can use English and operate a computer says certain things ... I become mildly confused. I sometimes find it hard to tolerate such people, but I will admit there is always a part of me that wants to reach out, give them a cuddle, and help them with their stupidity problem. It seldom works though.

Calz
16th May 2012, 14:20
When someone who can use English and operate a computer says certain things ... I become mildly confused. I sometimes find it hard to tolerate such people, but I will admit there is always a part of me that wants to reach out, give them a cuddle, and help them with their stupidity problem. It seldom works though.




With an avatar like you are sporting these days who could resist???

http://babypictures.tk/wp-content/uploads/pictures/photos-of-cute-baby-pictures-1113.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 14:36
I know, aren't I cuddly?

http://www.darthvader1.com/pics_pictures_photos_images/darth_vader_sith_lords_7.jpg

If you want to see epic cuteness though, Songsy's girls of of nearly four and (I think) eight are incredible. They would melt anyone. And since they're energetic operators too, I think they could probably melt your mind if you pissed them off!

I just get this huge sense of dissonance with people who post certain things. I so deeply want them to understand that they're talking rubbish. I know full well that it's no good to engage in other people's illusions, but even so. It's lucky for me that my default setting is 'not giving a sh1t'. Saves me a lot of emotional trouble.

Calz
16th May 2012, 14:56
I just get this huge sense of dissonance with people who post certain things. I so deeply want them to understand that they're talking rubbish. I know full well that it's no good to engage in other people's illusions, but even so. It's lucky for me that my default setting is 'not giving a sh1t'. Saves me a lot of emotional trouble.



That is pretty much the way it is when there is a gap between two "reality systems" (programs ... whatever).

Ever had a "bible thumper" knock on your door???

I rest my case ...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RoVKle4RyYs/TTTgU6VcJ-I/AAAAAAAABFU/PpuuRDCclNw/s1600/Creationist_Bible_Thumper_by_BlackRaptor.jpg

Mad Hatter
16th May 2012, 15:07
I'm also wanting to experiment and see if externalising the energy in particular ways works. Fundamentally I want to be able to gather a big ball of really high frequency and point it at the virus source, see what happens.

While that can be fun watching which bits peel away if it's truly virus cancellation your after then that ball of energy needs to be a true phase conjugate of the original... use this as a carrier for the higher frequencies and not only will the virus evaporate but the higher frequencies will manifest accordingly. Oops went a bit left brained there...

*Orders another round of 'nangs' for the patrons whilst attempting to merge with the bar stool*

Hmm... images of bars dropping stools :p time to adjust the medication...or get some sleep maybe!!


Ever had a "bible thumper" knock on your door???

I usually thank the universe for an oportunitty to do my fair share of civic duty by tying them up in conversation for as long as possible whilst planting splinters in their minds so they have less time to annoy my neighbours...

LDS types are a real treat if you can drag em out on the 'magic' undies etc. !! :p

Borden
16th May 2012, 15:12
I get the occasional Jehovah's thickness knock on my door, and I used to find fun in telling them that I am Lucifer. The fun never went very far, so I gave it up. The wings flapping in their face perturbed them, and I do not find any worthwhile plateaus of cool in upsetting dumb animals.

Calz
16th May 2012, 15:24
*Orders another round of 'nangs' for the patrons whilst attempting to merge with the bar stool*

Hmm... images of bars dropping stools :p time to adjust the medication...or get some sleep!!


Wheeeee ... that was fun http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2gwb921.gif

wow ... how to find an image for "nangs, merging with bar stools, medication and sleep"??? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/loudlaff.gif


Have to tip my hat to ya ... not too many members can stump me like you just did ...

:yo:


http://mythbroakia.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/mad-hatter-quotes-mad-hatter-johnny-depp-10826999-1280-800.jpg?w=300&h=187


*** adding ***


yipes ... well


... after slammin' down a few nangs ... Pub Patrons merge with the barstool ... whereupon they quickly become in need of medication and sleep???


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1105/inspiration-upside-down-stool-seats-four-demotivational-posters-1305639926.jpg

Borden
16th May 2012, 16:03
This is the end ...

gGdGFtwCNBE

And this is the beginning.

zc8hbSM1zVo

Okay, look ... here's how it is ... women who know me know that I know them. That turns them to jelly for some reason. It's all so incredibly tedious. The first two songs are excellent of course, but this one's far more my sui generis ...

3NneP-DXT30

Mad Hatter
16th May 2012, 16:29
Hmm...


Okay, look ... here's how it is ... women who know me know that I know them. That turns them to jelly for some reason. It's all so incredibly tedious.

in the Pub's gift shop I spied something that might help with that...

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/7/21/a51c572b-891c-4512-bb36-a872ead4dbbb.jpg

as for dealing with...


Jehovah's thickness :pound::pound::pound:

time for the big guns..

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/Flyingdutchman_2008/MooseKNuckle.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 16:45
as for dealing with...


Jehovah's thickness :pound::pound::pound:

time for the big guns..

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/Flyingdutchman_2008/MooseKNuckle.jpg


Today's dietary standards and health statement depicting the current version of the epic "face that launched 1000 ships" ...

[... adjusted for inflation and today's economy ... of course]


http://c.cslacker.com/1838l.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 16:57
Okay Calz, that one made me laugh for a prolonged length of time. I salute you, sir!

By the way, where is Bob? Do people know anything I don't? I hope Mazie is doing well and he will be back soon.

... and now all the Pub Patrons have returned :clap2:





"When the sun of understanding brightens this road each receives light according to his merit and he finds the degree assigned to him in the understanding of truth. When the mystery of the essence of beings reveals itself clearly to him the furnace of this world becomes a garden of flowers. He who is striving will be able to see the almond in its hard shell. He will no longer be pre-occupied with himself, but will look up at the face of his friend. In each atom he will see the whole; he will ponder over thousands of bright secrets."

"In this Valley nothing old or new has value; you can act or not act. If you saw a whole world burning until hearts were only shish kabab, it would be only a dream compared to reality. If myriads of souls were to fall into this boundless ocean it would be as a drop of dew. If heaven and earth were to burst into minute particles it would be no more than a leaf falling from a tree; and if everything were to be annihilated, from the fish to the moon, would there be found in the depths of a pit the leg of a lame ant? If there remain no trace of either of men or jinn, the secret of a drop of water from which all has been formed is still to be pondered over."


Attar, Conference of the Birds


Delighted to see your presence here Bob ... :hail:

http://blog.jauu.net/2010/06/21/Munich-Symphony-Orchestra-stage-The-Lord-of-the-Rings/ring-thumb.jpg


We have been missing you and you are *most* welcome :nod:

http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/media/galerie/sonstiges_1/sonstiges/PDVD_025-cb57565.jpg

Calz
16th May 2012, 17:34
Funny (in case someone has not already seen this) ...

iOavbyDKSi0

Katyani
16th May 2012, 21:02
This may not be very relevant, but I need to express it to my fellow pubbers ...

I went and saw Avengers with my brother yesterday. He is as much a long time Marvel geek as I am. We left the cinema very, very, very happy. If you haven't seen it, and even if you know nothing about the characters I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's enormous fun, and has a lot more big laughs than you might expect.

Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

bkBg_ULvwCY

Nuff said.


Of course it's relevant!
I've actually never heard of Marvel, I was (and still am) a Tintin-fan. But now that you've so highly recommended the Avengers, I'll look into it.
Speaking of Pub Club and dressing up. I went to bed thinking how great it would be if we could meet for a party - astrally or 3D.
And I dreamt about the best party ever. Everyone was there.
I've spent the evening searching for something that captures the feeling of that dream.
This comes very close:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maUPpTiU-mo&ob=av2n



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4u1RxjxB5Y&feature=related

PurpleLama
16th May 2012, 21:05
Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

I already have my super hero garb, although perhaps not what you had in mind....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16343&d=1337202066

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 21:43
http://ournewwebsite.com/images/drmanhaten3-72.jpg

http://buzzaurus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/female-superhero-dr-manhattan-150x150.jpg

http://buzzaurus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/female-superhero-hellboy.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2010/03/genderswap06.jpg

PurpleLama
16th May 2012, 22:22
http://www.deviantart.com/download/143964972/White_Magician_by_random_victory.jpg

http://emol.org/kabbalah/images/magician.jpg

http://autumnsunshineandgabrielleangel.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/white-magic-purple-abstract.jpg

songsfortheotherkind
16th May 2012, 22:34
While that can be fun watching which bits peel away if it's truly virus cancellation your after then that ball of energy needs to be a true phase conjugate of the original... use this as a carrier for the higher frequencies and not only will the virus evaporate but the higher frequencies will manifest accordingly. Oops went a bit left brained there...

Hey baby, you're speaking one of my languages. :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5fM6WpC_nE

http://i.haymarket.net.au/News/25-best-hacker-movies-ever-the-matrix.jpg

we both know it has nothing whatsoever to do with computers. :D