Welcome to The Pub At the End of the Universe.

[PurpleLama]

I am seeing the virus being hacked in the "normal" :o

[Mad Hatter]

On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting it's shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?

[Calz]

Things to remember when you start to doubt that anything you're doing is making any difference:

No. 23

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3aI_TQ2imrY/St55ihdBMyI/AAAAAAAAALI/YxPC7y-62_I/S1600-R/Zomie5.jpg

this puts you miles ahead, spiritually speaking, of at least 6.5 billion inhabitants of this planet...


Oh good ... that means I can stop saving for one the these ...


14956
[survive the zombie apocalyse]


... wonder if I can get a refund on all that ammo???


14957
[This man is prepared for it. You too?]

[Calz]

*wanders over to the jukebox and punches in her selection for the morning

You know what I love about this jukebox? It makes the performers appear in person on stage...

*snuggles into a comfy chair, green smoothie in hand*

Patrons of our excellent establishment, appearing this morning in the Undersea Cave

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRS-RP--FN6mXbxF9ABkNuo3_cHgOwJOzlYGRoad8hL6NfnQWxs3w

the One and Only

Roy Orbison

(snipping of great tunes)




Okay ... save you from the cute puppy with headphones I will ...


1495914960

[Calz]

New Word INEPTOCRACY

Could not find it in my old Webster's. Googled it and discovered it is a
recently "coined" new word found on a T shirt on eBay. Getting really close to
the bone! Read this one over slowly and absorb the facts that totally are
within this sentence!

I love this word and believe that it will become a recognized English word.
Finally, a word to describe our current political situation.

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government
where the least capable to lead are elected by the least
capable of producing; and, where the members of society
least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded
with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth
of a diminishing number of producers.


1496414965

[davyj0nes]

I think thats awesome about your gargoyle friend. where's he from, what's his name, is he stone grey in colour? is he here on earth, or trans-dimensional?

He is pretty awesome, when he shows up.

Ok, some background:

I'm a succubus.
*falls over*


About six years ago, I ran into a real problem with my succubus nature. I experience it as an aspect of me that I can see and interact with and I call her my Mog.
you mean like this one?
http://www.videogamelists.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mog-final-fantasy-6.jpg


Wow. I'm talking Otherkind stuff in public. *laughing, shaking my head* Clearly, times change...
disclosure is fun!:dance:


i'd love to hear your thoughts on the annunaki some time.


And now that I've gotten over my annunaki traumas to the degree I can talk about it all, I shall tell you my Sui Generis universe history with them and this whole story, if you are interested.
i'm all ears :nod:

[songsfortheotherkind]

It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6l-0mosqsEQ9okMDS-OTffRJnMyuGZMtB7fC2ad04WGhQPs62

My "Consciousness Ursurpation and Normalising Trebuchet" has had a *fabulously* successful first run and I'm *extremely* pleased with the results. Now with the simple touch of a button the subject will be bombarded with a dazzling, overwhelming and soul destroying download of perspective and bias centred solidly around that of the machine's programmer: emotional blackmail, heart felt psuedo-spiritual persuasion, psychological manipulation and diagnosis, linguistic distortions, bombastic superiority, social conditioning, peer pressure, consumer programming,

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBOkoGlEElyyGV0o8-U80-xqLwcU9R_2Sq0bZFH2Czpgi5t4Mm self-loathing, triggers of parental and other disapproval and more from the fabulous tool-kit, with inbuilt 'specific parameter' option so that your session can be personally tailored to overcome any and all resistance and self defense in the subject, thus assuring a successful outcome.

No more tedious hours of engaging in conversation for the express purpose of persuading another to your perspective! Co-creation and multiple perspectives- who needs that rubbish! Now the owner of our new product can rest assured that no traces of the Virus contained within any of their actions, communications, contorted logic and constructed spirituality will ever be challenged! A quick press of a button and all spirit, Sui Generis perspective and experience, individuality or any other pesky and irritating differences in Being will swiftly be replaced by empty, unchallenging and smiling agreement to every utterance and action, no matter how preposterous, blatantly self interested, passive aggressive or simply rat bastard it might be!! And if by some astonishing turn of events any individual should have inner Essence that is unable to be conquered, our award winning failsafe back up programme results in a vice clamping around the subject's head and the Trebuchet element kicks into gear, firing the subject out the roof and (if you've followed our instructions properly) straight into the pool of starving crocodiles in your backyard.

Thus, no matter the route, your place at the top of the consciousness pile will be assured!
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQA8GG5mDJtutej79MvaBRMRnqFqBDORtackPgLmTd4mEN0IOHc


The Consciousness Usurpation and Normalising Trebuchet- used by manipulators, dictators, spiritual con artists, the unevolved and agents of the Virus the world over (because *they* don't need to know they're nothing but puppets too...)

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmR6zv-t7CUg5bP_bpTcX5rCTqhB4m1766B9-wSeSEYJzYlOJI

[songsfortheotherkind]

New Word INEPTOCRACY

Could not find it in my old Webster's. Googled it and discovered it is a
recently "coined" new word found on a T shirt on eBay. Getting really close to
the bone! Read this one over slowly and absorb the facts that totally are
within this sentence!

I love this word and believe that it will become a recognized English word.
Finally, a word to describe our current political situation.

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government
where the least capable to lead are elected by the least
capable of producing; and, where the members of society
least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded
with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth
of a diminishing number of producers.


1496414965

I have added this to my vocabulary and shall be peppering my conversations with it, like an overdose of cardamom. This, and Idiocracy= summing the paradigm up, one word at a time... :D

[another bob]

Thank goodness, things were getting a little too quiet here at the pub . . .


http://i44.tinypic.com/dz9q2x.gif




http://i40.tinypic.com/2d0cmzn.gif


Glad to see you're back to light things up . . .



http://i44.tinypic.com/4segw7.gif

[songsfortheotherkind]

Glad to see you're back to light things up . . .



http://i44.tinypic.com/4segw7.gif

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1NwG3pBLmJCSKvHGX0sk84YsuQaVqWdaWGg0D57JgoGTmaOYkjg


*impressed* nice erection, there! And of course, the mandatory cigarette afterwards... apparently you missed me.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR3DCJF2xGsO25hPVRG3KQlVWqZ2q2zOfoKYIxE_NNNON2I7co

Can't imagine why...

[songsfortheotherkind]

"where have YOU been?" they demanded, looking at the state of my dishevelment.

"Well, if you must know, I just spent 22 hours talking to someone on skype. 22 straight hours. It was awesome. So there!"

*goes in search of a stiff drink- oh, thanks, another bob- and a nice, comfy, throb-a-tron couch...*

[Calz]

"where have YOU been?" they demanded, looking at the state of my dishevelment.

"Well, if you must know, I just spent 22 hours talking to someone on skype. 22 straight hours. It was awesome. So there!"

*goes in search of a stiff drink- oh, thanks, another bob- and a nice, comfy, throb-a-tron couch...*


I did my best imitation of 3-fers at the Pub ... but since I really suck at monologues I sank into the darkened corners of my mind ...

Sounds like you are really skyped up???


I did manage to come up with a nice warning system for posts from another bob ... at least giving our Patrons a "heads up" anyway.


14985

[songsfortheotherkind]

... wonder if I can get a refund on all that ammo???
14957
[This man is prepared for it. You too?]


Hey, wait, I like you in that outfit! Don't refund that one, take that other hideous thing back-

http://tinyurl.com/76zc8qt

I *told* you the fuschia was a better colour...

[songsfortheotherkind]

I did my best imitation of 3-fers at the Pub ... but since I really suck at monologues I sank into the darkened corners of my mind ...

*pokes head up out of the couch, surprised* Wha-? Wait, you mean there are other corners of your mind? Learn something every day, I does....



I did manage to come up with a nice warning system for posts from another bob ... at least giving out Patrons a "heads up" anyway.


14985

*falls about laughing* Yes, yes, this one really worked for me...

[another bob]

Can't imagine why...


http://i42.tinypic.com/fuq2iv.gif


;)

[songsfortheotherkind]

Can't imagine why...


http://i42.tinypic.com/fuq2iv.gif


;)

*laughing* you really do have a lot of time on your hands...

[songsfortheotherkind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HrS6Xz7ZYY&feature=related

I always found this really beautiful.

and now, down in the Psy Trance chill out room

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXRQonsBZHxYYCA8QaUYHoVjQktEA0E ZN5vo-koCc70DBbgyvd

we have something so nice, they played it twice


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_WUagK8UlA

[songsfortheotherkind]

it seems I'm rather en-tranced, so I'm going to go with it..

down in the Trance space

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRU8MN0A67HAOBTKQlDMQy_ITijKTMvd 9TJWJkjc8Iyj43ge8lq

I'm dancing with my glo poi...

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRKvXZKs3e7KDqgjQGmvTr6dE7ppKmF 5JD-0Wpti1MmZ5W8TRq

to this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkD5RLYBG1Q

[songsfortheotherkind]

Fun Steampunk Facts Number 53.

This outfit

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/30/article-0-05256C99000005DC-293_964x979.jpg

will absolutely, definitely get you boinked.

[Calz]

Fun Steampunk Facts Number 53.

This outfit

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/30/article-0-05256C99000005DC-293_964x979.jpg

will absolutely, definitely get you boinked.


You win this round ... I can't touch that.


14996



... however ... I have been training myself to catch a glimpse of those black hissing virus thingies you have been tellin' us about ...



14997

[Ultima Thule]

Oh, barkeeper - the mens lavatory, the john if you will, has ran out of toilet paper... Either you replenish them, or start serving drinks for those stuck in there...

[Calz]

Oh, barkeeper - the mens lavatory, the john if you will, has ran out of toilet paper... Either you replenish them, or start serving drinks for those stuck in there...

Well we all know how long it takes for supplies to reach the End of the Universe ...


14998

[Ultima Thule]

Drinks then ;) OR......... in this case perhaps even easier, allow using of the bar as lavatory???

[Calz]

Drinks then ;) OR......... in this case perhaps even easier, allow using of the bar as lavatory???


That can get a bit tricky ... just need to set up a few boundaries ...


14999

[songsfortheotherkind]

*the bar suddenly goes very very quiet*

Non-human prejudice in the Pub at the end of the Universe? When the proprietress is her Self non-human? And has a sometime lover that looks like this...

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt2ZJrF6akdb15khNo4uQXmD5g6vnUVl6UUWgajw_SHC5BExeW

and another that looks a little like this...

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp653_DplFXwmT2IWJiYyIgLTYnmTaPzOpzPdwDgcCfQtj709FxA



No wonder it's only the aliens that are getting any action.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhZEuAk63YoWeQMsf0sbyWQPZ1tmICeAqD1g_bf3cotbQmxrSn

*the bar erupts into general 'humans, what can you expect?' laughter and a lovely albino with gorgeous green hair hits on the Proprietress**

Mmmm, nommy...

[Muzz]

This jogged my memory and made me chuckle.

An old friend of mine had a party trick when out drinking in a new pub. Once we had been there for a while and everyone was enjoying themselves there would be a loud call at the back of the room. "Hey! Landlord what kinda place you runnin here?" At which point the pub would would go silent as they turned to look in the direction of the toilets. He would be standing there with his trousers at his ankles, waving an empty toilet roll above his head with a genuine look of indignation on his face. There was a moment of stunned silence followed by uproar as the pub rolled about in laughter. He was a real lovable old rogue and probably one of the few people who could pull something like this of without ending up in the cells for the night.

Thanks for the reminder Ultima Thule. :)


Oh, barkeeper - the mens lavatory, the john if you will, has ran out of toilet paper... Either you replenish them, or start serving drinks for those stuck in there...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Drinks then ;) OR......... in this case perhaps even easier, allow using of the bar as lavatory???

*watches as the bartender takes a Jedi laser from behind their back*

sure. once.

Please understand, there are some Beings here who find humans kind of repulsive and they're being on their best behaviour. The Pub takes no responsibility for humans that get their heads ripped off for breaching multiversal etiquette. *Proprietress wanders off, with a big smile in the direction of her bartender* I'm looking forward to the show...

*automated voice message*

Dear Patron, here at the Pub we have dispensed with such environmental uselessness as toilet paper: the instructions for proper use of the facilities are explained upon entering the restroom.

Should you need any further assistance, please approach any of our friendly hospitality droids.

[songsfortheotherkind]

... however ... I have been training myself to catch a glimpse of those black hissing virus thingies you have been tellin' us about ...



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=14997&d=1332755350

*shocked horror* YOU are equating a black dragon with the VIRUS????????????

That's it. I'm telling the bar to water down all your drinks until further notice. Not even a nerf bullet up the conk suffices for that one...

[Borden]

Nearly all humans are prejudiced. Even the ones who think they're not are usually pretty selective in that.

There are gross examples ... like the sort of person who would kill you if you hurt their dog ... but have no problem munching on minced cow while they tell you about this wonderful loyalty of theirs. But there are subtler examples all over the place.

By the way, if you ever see me in the pub, in conversation at a table with a Grey ... don't be alarmed if I raise my voice. Don't even worry if I slap it occasionally for trying that starey eye thing on me. I'll still put it in a taxi at the end of the night and make sure it's all right.

Borden

[Calz]

Drinks then ;) OR......... in this case perhaps even easier, allow using of the bar as lavatory???


*automated voice message*

Dear Patron, here at the Pub we have dispensed with such environmental uselessness as toilet paper: the instructions for proper use of the facilities are explained upon entering the restroom.

Should you need any further assistance, please approach any of our friendly hospitality droids.


:ear::hand::nono::shocked::fear:


15001

[Calz]

... however ... I have been training myself to catch a glimpse of those black hissing virus thingies you have been tellin' us about ...



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=14997&d=1332755350

*shocked horror* YOU are equating a black dragon with the VIRUS????????????

That's it. I'm telling the bar to water down all your drinks until further notice. Not even a nerf bullet up the conk suffices for that one...


Bugger ... in trouble again already I am???

Run out of puppy dog images I will ...


15002



The virus made me see it ... yes yes ... whispers sweet lies into my head it does ...

:yield::yield::yield:

[Cerridwen]

I feel like some more 80's music.

yyZU4iNRdsM

[songsfortheotherkind]

By the way, if you ever see me in the pub, in conversation at a table with a Grey ... don't be alarmed if I raise my voice. Don't even worry if I slap it occasionally for trying that starey eye thing on me. I'll still put it in a taxi at the end of the night and make sure it's all right.

Borden

I can't imagine for the life of me why, but that just reminds me of Fight Club all over again...


*wanders off, humming to my Self*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iC0YXspJRM

[songsfortheotherkind]

I feel like some more 80's music.


Michael Hutchence... good call...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH986VE47M8

[PurpleLama]

v6xU96KLBL4

Another favorite song from another favorite band, oh yeah.

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FJrHDfINzds

[Calz]

Well since I have (once again) been demoted to the (puppy) doghouse for my lack of vision I guess I had best listen to this one a few more times ...


15003


_BcBfjzM1lQ


See, I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your cd's and burn em'. 'Cause you know what? The musicians who've made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years...
Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal ------ high on drugs."
--Bill Hicks


"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

"It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom, it´s what it is ok?. Keep that in mind at all times. Thank you!"
-- Bill Hicks


Dreaming of that face again.
It's bright and blue and shimmering.
Grinning wide
And comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes.

On my back and tumbling
Down that hole and back again
Rising up
And wiping the webs and the dew from my withered eye.

In... Out... In... Out... In... Out...

A child's rhyme stuck in my head.
It said that life is but a dream.
I've spent so many years in question
to find I've known this all along.

"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"

Shroud-ing all the ground around me
Is this holy crow above me.
Black as holes within a memory
And blue as our new second sun.
I stick my hand into his shadow
To pull the pieces from the sand.
Which I attempt to reassemble
To see just who I might have been.
I do not recognize the vessel,
But the eyes seem so familiar.
Like phosphorescent desert buttons
Singing one familiar song...

"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much.
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"

Prying open my third eye.
Prying open my third eye.
Prying open my third eye.
Prying open my third eye.

So good to see you once again.
I thought that you were hiding.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing the tail of dogma.
I opened my eye
I opened my eye
I opened my eye
and there we were...

Open my eye
Open my eye
Open my eye
and there you were...

So good to see you once again
I thought that you were hiding from me.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing a trail of smoke and reason.

Prying open my third eye. x 10

[Borden]

*the bar suddenly goes very very quiet*

Non-human prejudice in the Pub at the end of the Universe? When the proprietress is her Self non-human? And has a sometime lover that looks like this...

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt2ZJrF6akdb15khNo4uQXmD5g6vnUVl6UUWgajw_SHC5BExeW

and another that looks a little like this...

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp653_DplFXwmT2IWJiYyIgLTYnmTaPzOpzPdwDgcCfQtj709FxA



No wonder it's only the aliens that are getting any action.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhZEuAk63YoWeQMsf0sbyWQPZ1tmICeAqD1g_bf3cotbQmxrSn

*the bar erupts into general 'humans, what can you expect?' laughter and a lovely albino with gorgeous green hair hits on the Proprietress**

Mmmm, nommy...

I couldn't help thinking of this ...

i8lrfRwNlfs

And Calz, she only tells you off because those goody-two-shoes Jedi need constant reminding of what limited thinking can lead to.

Darth Borden

[Mad Hatter]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15001&d=1332760392

PS Anything over 5lb to be lowered by hand....:p

[PurpleLama]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15001&d=1332760392

PS Anything over 5lb to be lowered by hand....:p

There is an episode of Southpark, about Bono. I will say no more.

[Mad Hatter]

After careful adjustment of the quantum vector module in the overdrive unit on the 'Bits R Mishing' probability drive, some extremely delicate negotiations with the artists current tour manager who fortunately had no recollection of a certain peace pipe session some eons back combined with a promise to return her 5 microseconds before we left Mad Hatter is able to offer pub patrons a special holographic performance from a very talented being...enjoy!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7TAH8es7QE&feature=related

With a slight trim to Plancks constant for adjustment to the Dirac sea simultaneously in a different part of the hologram...the same artist...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNZYeGohKU&feature=related

[songsfortheotherkind]

I couldn't help thinking of this ...

i8lrfRwNlfs

*sudden fangirl squee*

Galaxy Quest!! Oh, I've been hoping for an opportunity to post a clip and you did it first!

*laughing* That one made me feel so nerdy good that Calz is off suspension. *more laughing* 10 points to the tall guy in the Neo coat.


And Calz, she only tells you off because those goody-two-shoes Jedi need constant reminding of what limited thinking can lead to.

Darth Borden

That's right Calz, because ask your Self- what the dickens is a non-Jedi doing with a light sabre?

*smiles sweetly*


Mmmmm, Darth Borden, eh? Suddenly the cosplay is getting interesting...

[another bob]

... what the dickens is a non-Jedi doing with a light sabre?

Domo gets around . . .

http://i40.tinypic.com/280t5zb.gif

[songsfortheotherkind]

Drinks then ;) OR......... in this case perhaps even easier, allow using of the bar as lavatory???


*automated voice message*

Dear Patron, here at the Pub we have dispensed with such environmental uselessness as toilet paper: the instructions for proper use of the facilities are explained upon entering the restroom.

Should you need any further assistance, please approach any of our friendly hospitality droids.


:ear::hand::nono::shocked::fear:


15001

*grinning* And in the case of those that *don't* wear clothes, please use the back of someone else's jacket.

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... what the dickens is a non-Jedi doing with a light sabre?

Domo gets around . . .

http://i40.tinypic.com/280t5zb.gif

Arigato!

You're such a pic ninja! *laughing*

[songsfortheotherkind]

this clip would have been way more interesting had the female looked more like the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo...

but the song, mmmmmm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2hCeAkD7Ds&feature=related

[Borden]

In any other pub this jukebox selection would earn me the sort of looks, from anyone under the age of about thirty-five, that might tempt my hand to my lightsabre.

FnXPz2bIaFU

Lord Darth Borden of Cheem. I can kill with a tray.

[songsfortheotherkind]

In any other pub this jukebox selection would earn me the sort of looks, from anyone under the age of about thirty-five, that might tempt my hand to my lightsabre.

Lord Darth Borden of Cheem. I can kill with a tray.

*laughing* You just like that the cosplay thing is working, don't you...

[songsfortheotherkind]

For Calz.

http://hedonsalon.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/633809119214872825-steampunk.jpg

although I'm sure a certain hat tipping chappie might also enjoy. :D

[Borden]

Getting an itchy ear in that helmet is no joke. It can make you grumpy enough to start ruling galaxies just to annoy people.

And why would you do that to Calz? Aroused Smurf Jedi can be trouble!

[songsfortheotherkind]

Continuing on the cosplay theme, this one also really works for me...

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGbLTTT5gxd5j7MXumOG6WWTzPSi9UxAiiQPug5k5C_o4uAaZl


the above steampunk picture also works, but I'm not talking about that right now, am I...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Getting an itchy ear in that helmet is no joke. It can make you grumpy enough to start ruling galaxies just to annoy people.

And why would you do that to Calz? Aroused Smurf Jedi can be trouble!

Pfffft, this is the Pub, we can handle one Smurf Jedi. Or even a thousand, although that does get a little traumatising- it's the theme song, you see, goes with them everywhere...

and if the helmet's itchy, take it off and go all manga with the look- Darth Awesome Hair, that's the ticket...

[Calz]

this clip would have been way more interesting had the female looked more like the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo...



We just watched that video over the weekend ... interesting movie.

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For Calz.

http://hedonsalon.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/633809119214872825-steampunk.jpg

although I'm sure a certain hat tipping chappie might also enjoy. :D


Have to "warm up" to that one ... just arrived at work :ranger:

[songsfortheotherkind]

Here is a me update-

I have just had an aromatherapy massage. I smell divine and taste even more delicious than usual. *licks own arm* Dang, there are just *worlds* of difference between cheap crappy oils and the real deal. I'm currently better tasting than the chocolate avocado raw vegan pie I just treated my Self.

I would offer a lick, but then life ever after would be nothing more than a pale comparison of the lusciousness that is me. I can, however, bliss out endlessly on the yumsticks I currently smell like, and that's exactly what I'm doing, hurrah!

MMmmmmmmm is for massage...

[Borden]

Here is a me update-

I have just had an aromatherapy massage. I smell divine and taste even more delicious than usual. *licks own arm* Dang, there are just *worlds* of difference between cheap crappy oils and the real deal. I'm currently better tasting than the chocolate avocado raw vegan pie I just treated my Self.

I would offer a lick, but then life ever after would be nothing more than a pale comparison of the lusciousness that is me. I can, however, bliss out endlessly on the yumsticks I currently smell like, and that's exactly what I'm doing, hurrah!

MMmmmmmmm is for massage...

Why does everyone else choose better lunchtime outings than me?

AL8Kl-8H9k8

Mind you ... chocolate and avocado in the same sentence sounds even wronger than what I do to cats.

[Calz]

Getting an itchy ear in that helmet is no joke. It can make you grumpy enough to start ruling galaxies just to annoy people.

And why would you do that to Calz? Aroused Smurf Jedi can be trouble!

Pfffft, this is the Pub, we can handle one Smurf Jedi. Or even a thousand, although that does get a little traumatising- it's the theme song, you see, goes with them everywhere...

and if the helmet's itchy, take it off and go all manga with the look- Darth Awesome Hair, that's the ticket...


Ruling galaxies ... yes ... yes ... keep going ... annoying I am yes ...


15054
[Invalid your argument is!]


Thousand of Jedi you wish for ... thousand of Jedi you shall have ...

15055


Busy with them you will be ... notice the itch in your ear under that red D-cup helmet thingie you will not ...


15056

[songsfortheotherkind]

Thousand of Jedi you wish for ... thousand of Jedi you shall have ...

15055

*claps hands in delight*

Oh how cute- it's Braveheart, Smurf style!

http://www.11kphotos.com/warrior_dash/images/viking_smurfs.jpg

and look, how thoughtful, they brought their own catering crew...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4861929127_7e02646e77.jpg

and awwwwwww, the family turned up to cheer them on...

http://www.joecrazy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/smurfs.jpg

as for the rest of it...

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQifVmORrkseDN7qwVTt_bDgAKhYPP5KPCeFyb7Ie-hE61WrgxMIg

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRLlSSx6qmlUKzDp1-5BGp2Z0lCgDaB8iY2bOrogolqMtEVf7yGw

[Mad Hatter]

http://hedonsalon.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/633809119214872825-steampunk.jpg

although I'm sure a certain hat tipping chappie might also enjoy. :D

Hmm...1880's delicious conotations indeed...

Both form and function... whats not to enjoy...

http://www.youknowit.com/img/products/87105-smiley-contact-lenses.jpg

*frantically searches for fire extinguisher in case a flame war breaks out over the obviousness of his merely maleness* :p

[Calz]

http://hedonsalon.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/633809119214872825-steampunk.jpg

although I'm sure a certain hat tipping chappie might also enjoy. :D

Hmm...1880's delicious conotations indeed...

Both form and function... whats not to enjoy...

http://www.youknowit.com/img/products/87105-smiley-contact-lenses.jpg

*frantically searches for fire extinguisher in case a flame war breaks out over the obviousness of his merely maleness* :p


Ah good.

Mad Hatter dons his Manly Man Dinner Hat and orders a two-course meal from the Goth Menu.

A very old wine indeed ... but not a problem for our time traveling hostess.

In the meanwhile ... waiting patiently for the main feast ... he eyes his appetizer with glee. Showing an aversion from flame broiling ... he chooses the very rare cut.


15058

[another bob]

For Calz.

http://hedonsalon.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/633809119214872825-steampunk.jpg

although I'm sure a certain hat tipping chappie might also enjoy. :D



http://i43.tinypic.com/5duk9g.gif



:yo:

[Cerridwen]

Oh Songs, you do smell nice. Now where is the massage room again? I think I need a handsome male (human or alien) with nice strong hands to rub delicious oils all over me too. *grins wickedly and saunters off in the direction she points too*

[Borden]

Oh Songs, you do smell nice. Now where is the massage room again? I think I need a handsome male (human or alien) with nice strong hands to rub delicious oils all over me too. *grins wickedly and saunters off in the direction she points too*

Nice strong ... hands? If I didn't know better I'd suspect you of being limb-ist ... er, appendage-ist! Oh well, each to their own.

[PurpleLama]

Seriously. What's wrong with tentacles?

[Cerridwen]

Seriously. What's wrong with tentacles?

Absolutely nothing as long as they know how to use them properly!

[PurpleLama]

The otaku in me wishes to speak, but, No.

[PurpleLama]

OK. I just had one of those realization thingeys happen, saying this video belongs in this thread.

BgBr1pt9r44


WARNING

This song is *very* catchy. It will change your whole life.

[songsfortheotherkind]

The otaku in me wishes to speak, but, No.

Hmm, which way are you using otaku, the Japanese or the American, I wonder.... heh heh heh...

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And now, an early morning Haiku


Slow evolution!
How many ways to say it?
Apply foot to arse!


*wanders out in search of someone to nom on...*

[songsfortheotherkind]

[QUOTE]
*frantically searches for fire extinguisher in case a flame war breaks out over the obviousness of his merely maleness* :p


Pffffffft- no flame wars (unless you really want one and then I'm utterly happy to oblige, heh heh)- *I* like the steampunk poster and I don't have ridiculously vulnerable external dangly bits- or the hormones that come with them- to inspire me. Feel free to ogle and know that, at least in the goth/steampunk/cyberpunk/cybergoth/graver community, females have much more success hitting on other females than the males have hitting on the females.

The Underground subcultures- helping women get laid by other women since the 1880's... :D mwahahahahaaa


Just as an aside, that one clearly wasn't thought through very well, the whole exceedingly vulnerable external dangly bits being on the gender that claims superiority...

[Borden]

I will wait for Songsy to take those comments back.

In the meantime ... here is some music for your enjoyment.

AwTlbs51v2M

Thank you for your patience.

[songsfortheotherkind]

I will wait for Songsy to take those comments back.

*air of innocent interest*

Which part of the comments are you waiting for me to take back there?

*piles you with a year's worth of supplies and entertainment*

I thought I'd stock you up for your wait...

*laughing*


Thank you for your patience.

You are most welcome. *dragon eyed cheesy grin* I'm not going to do that for long though, looking directly up at you gives me a crick in my early morning neck...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Seriously. What's wrong with tentacles?

*looks over the top of her book speculatively*

We're not going where I *think* we're going, are we?

[PurpleLama]

No, not going there. Nope. Against guidelines, that would be.




American Otaku

[songsfortheotherkind]

No, not going there. Nope. Against guidelines, that would be.

American Otaku

*laughing* Yes yes, against them indeed- the rest of my internet is guideline free and I *still* don't go there. I was merely enquiring so that I could point to the 'Please Keep Your Tentacles To Your Self' sign at the front door.

Tentacles- once *they* get away from you, everything goes to hell in a handbasket. I know- I've been there... *shudders*

:P

[songsfortheotherkind]

In the meantime ... here is some music for your enjoyment.

AwTlbs51v2M

Thank you for your patience.

I had to reboot firefox to get the embedded vids to work, so I've only just seen this.

OMFG- KENNY *AND* DAVID together!!!! *major fangirl joygasm*

You are full of win this morning!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYpRkARK8Io

ignore the el crappo editing

[Cerridwen]

Just as an aside, that one clearly wasn't thought through very well, the whole exceedingly vulnerable external dangly bits being on the gender that claims superiority...

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy227/CerridwenSoap/ATT00001.jpg

[songsfortheotherkind]

And now, here's one for all the boys....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7IEBntjuY&feature=related

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Just as an aside, that one clearly wasn't thought through very well, the whole exceedingly vulnerable external dangly bits being on the gender that claims superiority...

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy227/CerridwenSoap/ATT00001.jpg

*gleesticks hugs* THAT'S the one I was looking for! :D

[Borden]

Just as an aside, that one clearly wasn't thought through very well, the whole exceedingly vulnerable external dangly bits being on the gender that claims superiority...

http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy227/CerridwenSoap/ATT00001.jpg

Holy cow! Did Betty White just say what I thought she said?

We need to step down from this oneup-person-ship about genitals, okay?

[songsfortheotherkind]

[QUOTE=Cerridwen;456691]

Holy cow! Did Betty White just say what I thought she said?

why yes, yes she did! *laughing*


We need to step down from this oneup-person-ship about genitals, okay?

Sensitive issue? *polite enquiry*

Hmm, just wondering, is this the bit where we start a fight and then flirt? I'm not entirely sure about how these rituals go, you see...

*gleeful laughter*

[another bob]

Hmm, just wondering, is this the bit where we start a fight and then flirt? I'm not entirely sure about how these rituals go, you see...

http://i42.tinypic.com/6yo48h.gif

[Cerridwen]

*Whispers to Songs "I think we're making poor Darth Borden squirm." and starts to giggle*

[songsfortheotherkind]

And now it's time for BACK TO THE ALMOST 80'S, brought to you by a nostalgia attack inspired by Kenny Everett's Video Show!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_x2-rCFWI

(and something in keeping with the current topic, same band years later, just to prove I don't have the attention span of a gold fish)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz24lF_DrFw&feature=related


and now, in celebration of Love and All Things Related!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdNLe-UODF4

[songsfortheotherkind]

*Whispers to Songs "I think we're making poor Darth Borden squirm." and starts to giggle*

You are a wicked wicked woman.

I like it! :D

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRb7C7GG0Dib3gRoi86RQtqM5BNFwZml7CZkEILIWY-4V6ci-P5

[Borden]

*Whispers to Songs "I think we're making poor Darth Borden squirm." and starts to giggle*

Not at all ... Songsy apparently wanted to know about the sensitivity of certain parts of me, but she had to gently kick me in the ego then scamper away. It's all right, I understand. Anyway, she missed. That was my shin.

You don't get to wield the power of Darth Borden if you couldn't even get past the 'feminine wiles' exams in the first year. Pah.

[PurpleLama]

Good save, Borden.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Not at all ... Songsy apparently wanted to know about the sensitivity of certain parts of me, but she had to gently kick me in the ego then scamper away. It's all right, I understand. Anyway, she missed. That was my shin.

Lol, as if such an easy shot would have been aimed at a Sith. Please- like I'm going to insult *either* of us in such a fashion...

*bounces*

I never kick then scamper! If I'm going to kick, then I want to stay around for the rest of the shenanigans!

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-Sf6UwqKVL1wYkLXPo-hqwzNKSfqCE9U_jhCi03yQNdL0BCRP

[songsfortheotherkind]

The Pub now comes with a Conditions of Entry suggestion:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrrippBDGJ1r30adno1_500.png

slamdance, people! It's called slamdance! :D

[songsfortheotherkind]

Good save, Borden.

*bouncing gleefully* He does have his moments, doesn't he? It all makes the Pub such a fun place to be- even the strangely silent lurkers in the corner add to the flavour of the place. :D


*gives a big cheery wave to all the invisible lurkers*

[Borden]

Good save, Borden.

*bouncing gleefully* He does have his moments, doesn't he? It all makes the Pub such a fun place to be- even the strangely silent lurkers in the corner add to the flavour of the place. :D


*gives a big cheery wave to all the invisible lurkers*

Yes, I thought I heard rustling from empty spaces ...

Anyway, I realized several posts had gone by that have lacked two vital ingredients ... cheesy music, and logistical help for human patrons who may experience trouble with the spatial dynamics of certain rooms

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I can't see how humans could have any trouble at all with that now. What? It's as clear as flat-pack furniture assembly instructions! What's wrong with you?!

[songsfortheotherkind]

Now Showing in our Private Theater-

http://www.deviantart.com/download/108161279/River_Tam_beats_up_everyone_by_deino_erd.png


And for those who aren't sure about how things work around here-

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/mattaniah/l35538f430000_1_12118.jpg

[Cerridwen]

I can't see how humans could have any trouble at all with that now. What? It's as clear as flat-pack furniture assembly instructions! What's wrong with you?!

Well, I will admit to taking a few wrong turns on my way to my lovely massage this morning, even with Songs directions. I'm blaming it on the scotch. *hiccup* *giggle*
Thank you Borden for the YOU ARE HERE video. It explains everything now.

[songsfortheotherkind]

I can't see how humans could have any trouble at all with that now. What? It's as clear as flat-pack furniture assembly instructions! What's wrong with you?!

awesome jukebox selection, it works for me. :D

As for humans and the spatial disorientation issue, perhaps a turn or three in a throb-a-tron couch will do the trick? If it doesn't cure them, it can't do any harm. *sudden thought* Oh, wait, that's not *strictly* true...

[Arturo]

Good save, Borden.

*bouncing gleefully* He does have his moments, doesn't he? It all makes the Pub such a fun place to be- even the strangely silent lurkers in the corner add to the flavour of the place. :D


*gives a big cheery wave to all the invisible lurkers*


Strangely silent lurker stands up awkwardly and waves. :o

Not sure about all dialects spoken here, but the wave seems universal enough, and it's the one thing I'm confident I won't screw up.

Strangely silent lurker sits back down and sips his drink, trying to look cool. Please tell me it's working.

[Calz]

Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:

[Arturo]

Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:


Phew.


(Ok, "phew" apparently is not an adequate response according to the cyber police. It needs to be longer. Do I have to shed my "provisional" status before I can serve up a few of my laconic gems? ha!)


And p.s. Thanks for the warm welcome Mr Calz

[Calz]

Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:


Phew.


(Ok, "phew" apparently is not an adequate response according to the cyber police. It needs to be longer. Do I have to shed my "provisional" status before I can serve up a few of my laconic gems? ha!)


And p.s. Thanks for the warm welcome Mr Calz

House rules are up to our gracious hostess ...

I dare not attempt to speak for her :fear:


PS - quite welcome.

Hope you enjoy your time here and learn a few things along the way (or perhaps teach us a thing or two) :nod:


Cal

[songsfortheotherkind]

Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:


Phew.


(Ok, "phew" apparently is not an adequate response according to the cyber police. It needs to be longer. Do I have to shed my "provisional" status before I can serve up a few of my laconic gems? ha!)


And p.s. Thanks for the warm welcome Mr Calz

You were indeed fortunate to run into the welcome wagon, there are dangerous lurking beasties in this Pub... *grins* I'm not one of them- well, at least not at the moment, but watch out for the full moon- or a change in mood- and just steer clear if you see any epic battles involving Sith and Shapeshifters going on...

*laughing*

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Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:

hey, it appears we might need a 'Welcome to the Pub' icon. *grinning* I wonder what *that* would look like...

[Arturo]

Working ...

:welcome: to Avalon :wave:


Phew.


(Ok, "phew" apparently is not an adequate response according to the cyber police. It needs to be longer. Do I have to shed my "provisional" status before I can serve up a few of my laconic gems? ha!)


And p.s. Thanks for the warm welcome Mr Calz

House rules are up to our gracious hostess ...

I dare not attempt to speak for her :fear:


PS - quite welcome.

Hope you enjoy your time here and learn a few things along the way (or perhaps teach us a thing or two) :nod:


Cal


I'm here to play grasshopper for a while. I'll speak up a little more when I'm certain I won't embarrass myself in a way that'll keep me up nights.

So I gotta check with the hostess, eh? No doubt you're referring to the one with the not inconsiderable bust? he-he.

I've been a lurker on these forums for a while now, and I've got to say (for 10 brown-nose points!) this is the coolest thread I've seen in some time. Looking forward to shootin the breeze here in the future with you wonderfully eccentric folks, but for now it's off to bed. Early wake-up tomorrow. Until then...

Arturo

[songsfortheotherkind]

House rules are up to our gracious hostess ... See 'BLAME' in post #587. :D


I dare not attempt to speak for her :fear:

Learned well, he has, yes



PS - quite welcome.

Hope you enjoy your time here and learn a few things along the way (or perhaps teach us a thing or two) :nod:

Cal

*grins* You're an excellent welcome wagon, indeed.

[Calz]

hey, it appears we might need a 'Welcome to the Pub' icon. *grinning* I wonder what *that* would look like...


Perhaps this will suffice for now when the search is on ...


15082


... although until we get our shipment of toilet paper this one might be more appropriate ...


15083

[songsfortheotherkind]

I'm here to play grasshopper for a while. I'll speak up a little more when I'm certain I won't embarrass myself in a way that'll keep me up nights.

Please, feel free to make a complete idiot of your Self, there are some here in the Pub who can give you some excellent pointers in that direction should you wish. :D Occasionally I am one of them, but when I do it, it has style.


So I gotta check with the hostess, eh? No doubt you're referring to the one with the not inconsiderable bust? he-he.

*pointy eared and curling horns grin* Yes, yes , that would be me...


I've been a lurker on these forums for a while now, and I've got to say (for 10 brown-nose points!) this is the coolest thread I've seen in some time. Looking forward to shootin the breeze here in the future with you wonderfully eccentric folks, but for now it's off to bed. Early wake-up tomorrow. Until then...

Arturo

Plenty of crash spaces here. Enjoy. :D

[Calz]

House rules are up to our gracious hostess ... See 'BLAME' in post #587. :D


I dare not attempt to speak for her :fear:

Learned well, he has, yes




For some strange reason the word Pavlov has just entered the building ... :dirol:


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[songsfortheotherkind]

hey, it appears we might need a 'Welcome to the Pub' icon. *grinning* I wonder what *that* would look like...


Perhaps this will suffice for now when the search is on ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15082&d=1332902608


*coolly polite and slightly eyebrow raised* Calz, are you bagging my Pub, after I was *so* nice to you?


*shakes head* And just when some of the females working here were warming up to you, too- you'll have to watch out now, or did you forget that

http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp178/SickCid/Blog/DerbyGirlsAreDangerous.jpg

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For some strange reason the word Pavlov has just entered the building ... :dirol:

15084

and yet somehow, no...


*squeee!*

Lol, I only just noticed that I got post number 600! hurrah! *bounce*

[another bob]

hey, it appears we might need a 'Welcome to the Pub' icon. *grinning* I wonder what *that* would look like...


Perhaps this will suffice for now when the search is on ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15082&d=1332902608


*coolly polite and slightly eyebrow raised* Calz, are you bagging my Pub, after I was *so* nice to you?


In dreams, we pub . . .

http://i41.tinypic.com/33m7hgk.gif

[songsfortheotherkind]

In dreams, we pub . . .

http://i41.tinypic.com/33m7hgk.gif

pffft, who needs strippers?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgLtBTCdzX8&feature=related

[another bob]

In dreams, we pub . . .

http://i41.tinypic.com/33m7hgk.gif

pffft, who needs strippers?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgLtBTCdzX8&feature=related


Hehe, who needs beer?


t8L_YSYv4uA

njtyFAhJ6ZE

8T9qexXXv9g

0x_y-vGercc

rNzTvv2obHw



:yo:

[Mike]

wow, i've been away for a minute and it's like nothing's changed. boobs, boobs, and more boobs. how wonderful!

may i make 1 small suggestion though: more boobs! after all, if we can't see more boobs then the terrorists have won! :jester:

[Mike]

like the new avatar Songs; you're like a colorful Medusa now. may we all still stare at you, or will we...ahem...run the risk of certain body parts turning to stone?


p.s. oh, and i've really been embracing my americentricism lately, so may i please have a bud light and...(Chinaski reaches into pocket for a dollar bill) some change for the juke box--i'm thinking, since we're embracing the 80's here, a little VanHalen might be in order. Everyone ok with 'Panama'?

[PurpleLama]

Glad to see you back, Mike.

[Mike]

Glad to see you back, Mike.


thank you, your purpleness.

[PurpleLama]

Although it will in no way help this thread getting stickied, I agree with you about boobs and terrorists.

[Borden]

Yes, welcome back Chinaski, I can see from your avatar picture that the trip has done you a world of good, young man!

It's occurred to me that we don't seem to be talking about the etheric pub lately. Hmm ...

Are you all meeting up there and laughing at me because I'm sat here in the physical? "Haha ... Borden is definitely The One ... The only One who can't get here!"

Seriously though ... has anyone had any success - even dreams or other associated strangeness?

[Mike]

Yes, welcome back Chinaski, I can see from your avatar picture that the trip has done you a world of good, young man!

It's occurred to me that we don't seem to be talking about the etheric pub lately. Hmm ...

Are you all meeting up there and laughing at me because I'm sat here in the physical? "Haha ... Borden is definitely The One ... The only One who can't get here!"

Seriously though ... has anyone had any success - even dreams or other associated strangeness?


right, down with the frivolity for a moment. *Chinaski massaging temples and repeating this mantra* :more seriousness, more seriousness, more seriousness...

high strangeness, this is just my game. not sure if this is relevant, cuz i'm a little behind in the thread, but i've been reading a lot of Casteneda lately, and have found myself having very bizarre dreams. one involves me in a storage facility parking lot, dodging shopping carts being dropped from a cargo plane. had that one twice.

*Chinaski dodges quarters and chairs, and jumps off the stage shouting: "i didn't say it was spiritual, or that it'd even make sense, or that it was even remotely entertaining!"

another, and this is one i have at least 10x a month...i'm in some school of some sort, and an exam is forthcoming, an exam that fills me with an incongruous foreboding--a foreboding usually reserved for leaps off high buildings and such. thing is, i KNOW i don't have a chance in hell of passing it, but i worry nonetheless before throwing my arms up and quitting. as i leave the school i'm filled with a profound feeling of hopelessness and despair.

attempting to translate these dreams usually leaves me with a headache, which is normally my cue to grab a beer....speaking of which, where's that damn bud light i ordered a half hour ago?!?

[Borden]

Hmmm ... vere zere any snakes in zese dreams, Chinaski? Or tunnels? How about swords? Donuts wiz holes? For God's sake, man! Give me somethink I can vork viz!

Castaneda, eh? I keep meaning to go and re-read the teachings of Don Juan myself. Especially since Songsy's thread on the mind-virus. I almost found myself trying to help interpret your dreams, but the problem is that not only would it take a more knowledgeable oneirocritic (shut up, red underliney thing, it is a word) than myself ... dream symbols can seem universal but aren't. You know what I mean? Shopping carts may indicate purchases to you ... but to me they recall being pushed in one down a steep hill one fun, drunken afternoon.

Oh, your Bud light came ages ago. I drank it, sorry. I'll get you another one. How many eyeballs?

[Calz]

Although it will in no way help this thread getting stickied, I agree with you about boobs and terrorists.


Errr ... that would depend on your definition of "sticky" me thinks ...


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[Mike]

[QUOTE=Borden;457432]Hmmm ... vere zere any snakes in zese dreams, Chinaski? Or tunnels? How about swords? Donuts wiz holes? For God's sake, man! Give me somethink I can vork viz!

Castaneda, eh? I keep meaning to go and re-read the teachings of Don Juan myself. Especially since Songsy's thread on the mind-virus. I almost found myself trying to help interpret your dreams, but the problem is that not only would it take a more knowledgeable oneirocritic (shut up, red underliney thing, it is a word) than myself ... dream symbols can seem universal but aren't. You know what I mean? Shopping carts may indicate purchases to you ... but to me they recall being pushed in one down a steep hill one fun, drunken afternoon.

Oh, your Bud light came ages ago. I drank it, sorry. I'll get you another one. How many eyeballs?[/QUOTE






did Freud talk like Pepe LePew, or are you doing an interpretation of another brilliant dream analyst i've never heard of?;)

sh!t i know, you're right, i shoulda kept those lame dreams to myself! ha! next time i promise omens, portents and...and...how about 50 ft tall minotaurs with grasshopper legs? symbolic enough? if i fail to dream i'll make something up involving a floating eyeball over my house. right, that'll do.

you're spot on about dream symbols; they're subjective, which is why i find dream interpretation to be about as reliable a science as channelling(ut-oh, here we go again)

not sure what shopping carts represent to me, and i'm much too tired to speculate. wait...no...they represent the show 'Jackass'. yup, that's it.

oh, and i'll take 3 eyeballs. and don't skimp!

[Borden]

Third eye or regular eyes? Or one of each?

How dare you criticize my phonetic Austrian! Right, you ... hey, everyone, over here! Look what Chinaski said about channeling! (Stands to one side and elegantly inspects something non-existent on coat sleeve while whistling thoughtfully ... apparently oblivious to commotion that features Chinaski being engulfed by mob of angry people with higher knowledge that apparently needs aggressive defending.)

Oh, and it sounds to me like you and I share the shopping cart archetype. We know their higher purpose in the energetic realms. And there's no point playing it safe. You know what they say ... live Freud, die Jung.

By the way, last night I dreamed that I had eaten my pillow, and in the morning my giant marshmallow was gone.

[161803398]

you are "parked" and "in storage" while so many choices are being dropped on you.

the dream about the exam is about your father.

[Alekahn]

No dream interpretation here. No boobs either (sorry)!
This I do offer to the patrons at the end...
or is it the beginning?...of the universe.


aSfgsMldtE0

[Mike]

No dream interpretation here. No boobs either (sorry)!
This I do offer to the patrons at the end...
or is it the beginning?...of the universe.


aSfgsMldtE0



no boobs, huh?

well, you should probably be made aware that we have a 3 strike policy here, and you've just taken one enormous hack and missed miserably. :) cool song, by the way.

(ok, no more boob references for me. done. over.)

[Mike]

Third eye or regular eyes? Or one of each?

How dare you criticize my phonetic Austrian! Right, you ... hey, everyone, over here! Look what Chinaski said about channeling! (Stands to one side and elegantly inspects something non-existent on coat sleeve while whistling thoughtfully ... apparently oblivious to commotion that features Chinaski being engulfed by mob of angry people with higher knowledge that apparently needs aggressive defending.)

Oh, and it sounds to me like you and I share the shopping cart archetype. We know their higher purpose in the energetic realms. And there's no point playing it safe. You know what they say ... live Freud, die Jung.

By the way, last night I dreamed that I had eaten my pillow, and in the morning my giant marshmallow was gone.


3rd eye or regular eye? hmmm. great question, and i plan to give it some strenuous thought right after i decide i'm not too lazy to give it strenuous thought. wait...what?

well, seeing as though i'm operating outside of 3d at the moment, let's go with three 3rd eyes, over easy with side of crown chakras.

i do have a few ideas about that dream of yours, but i'm afraid you'll have to pay me first.

[songsfortheotherkind]

*saunters in, hits Zebedee 43 on the jukebox, faceplants on the couch*

I'll tell you about it in a bit...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6mW_x-0MU4&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLD370A1EFF1ED409E

[Mike]

you are "parked" and "in storage" while so many choices are being dropped on you.

the dream about the exam is about your father.



ok, i can see how you might have come up with first. but the 2nd? how do you make the leap from the exam to my father?

normally, i might have not given a translation like this a second thought, but you just seem so damn cryptically certain of yourself in that 2nd analysis that i just had to ask:)


p.s. if i seem skeptical, you'll have to forgive me; i've been taken in by so many would-be metaphysicians in the past, that, well..i'm reminded of a wonderful quote here by a wonderful man--former president of the United States and former 'guvnor of Texas, George W. Bush: "fool me once...shame on...me? fool me twice...we...we can't get fooled again!"

[161803398]

its an authority... a test to pass....that's dad when you are little.

if you get over this part...maybe youll pick the best shopping cart.

[Borden]

its an authority... a test to pass....that's dad when you are little.

But what if he was an orphan brought up in a convent?

But what if he got bitten by a radioactive exam as a child?

But ... but ... but ...

[Mike]

its an authority... a test to pass....that's dad when you are little.


hmmm. and here i thought it was a metaphor for feeling that my time has passed, and it's to late for success, no point in trying etc etc

you may be on to something there, 161803398. (God, i felt really silly writing all those numbers down. may we call you '16 for short?:))

thank you for your analysis there. did you study dreams and dream analysis?

[Mike]

what if i was brought up in a convent *AND* bitten by a radioactive exam?

come on Borden, stop thinking like an insect!;)

[songsfortheotherkind]

like the new avatar Songs; you're like a colorful Medusa now. may we all still stare at you, or will we...ahem...run the risk of certain body parts turning to stone?

Pffft, I don't do that to patrons unless they really annoy me- generally I just serve them up as a snack for my Ravenous Bugblatter. You may ogle to your heart's content, I am an absolute attention whor-

as it so happens, I love boobs too. Hurrah! I get to appreciate them *and* enjoy my own! That's what is known in the military as a win-win situation. :P

[Borden]

For God's sake, man ... arachnid!

Even Doc Ock gets that right when he's trying to knock seven bells out of me!

[Mike]

like the new avatar Songs; you're like a colorful Medusa now. may we all still stare at you, or will we...ahem...run the risk of certain body parts turning to stone?

Pffft, I don't do that to patrons unless they really annoy me- generally I just serve them up as a snack for my Ravenous Bugblatter. You may ogle to your heart's content, I am an absolute attention whor-

as it so happens, I love boobs too. Hurrah! I get to appreciate them *and* enjoy my own! That's what is known in the military as a win-win situation. :P


i'm a big boob fan, but if i don't start getting in shape, i may find myself in a similar situation; though being male, i'm inclined to classify this as a 'lose-lose' type of situation:(

[Mike]

For God's sake, man ... arachnid!

Even Doc Ock gets that right when he's trying to knock seven bells out of me!


sorry mate. my fault. next round's on me.

you prefer 2 eyeballs, correct? Calz, can i get you anything while i'm up? Songs?

[Calz]

For God's sake, man ... arachnid!

Even Doc Ock gets that right when he's trying to knock seven bells out of me!


sorry mate. my fault. next round's on me.

you prefer 2 eyeballs, correct? Calz, can i get you anything while i'm up? Songs?

Sure ... mighty neighborly of you mate :hungry:

I'll take my usual .... "Calz One"


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[songsfortheotherkind]

what if i was brought up in a convent *AND* bitten by a radioactive exam?

come on Borden, stop thinking like an insect!;)

*falls about laughing*

[Mike]

For God's sake, man ... arachnid!

Even Doc Ock gets that right when he's trying to knock seven bells out of me!


sorry mate. my fault. next round's on me.

you prefer 2 eyeballs, correct? Calz, can i get you anything while i'm up? Songs?

Sure ... mighty neighborly of you mate :hungry:

I'll take my usual .... "Calz One"


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a wise choice, sir. our Calz-One is the finest in the universe--aged for 2 billion years as a matter of fact.

[Calz]

Since the Pub activity seems to be quite brisk tonight I would like to call attention to ... and heap adoration on ... a remarkably clever and ingenuitive Patron (who shall remain nameless) that has come up with a ecologically correct solution to the problem we face while still awaiting that star freighter full of our supply of toilet paper.

Very bright chap ... that's using the ol' noggin!!! :clap2::humble::clap2:


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[Mike]

Since the Pub activity seems to be quite brisk tonight I would like to call attention to ... and heap adoration on ... a remarkably clever and ingenuitive Patron (who shall remain nameless) that has come up with a ecologically correct solution to the problem we face while still awaiting that star freighter full of our supply of toilet paper.

Very bright chap ... that's using the ol' noggin!!! :clap2::humble::clap2:


15095




God, and to think: i've just been sh!tting my pants the old fashioned way this whole time!:doh:

[Borden]

Oh blimey ...

when Songsy comes back I'm going to stand as far away from Calz and Chinaski as I can ...

I don't want any bits of either of them on my sunglasses

[songsfortheotherkind]

i'm a big boob fan, but if i don't start getting in shape, i may find myself in a similar situation; though being male, i'm inclined to classify this as a 'lose-lose' type of situation:(

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsg1wiej1L1qdpxono1_500.jpg

The outfit is mine, the model is not. *smiles sweetly*

[Mike]

Oh blimey ...

when Songsy comes back I'm going to stand as far away from Calz and Chinaski as I can ...

I don't want any bits of either of them on my sunglasses



ha! i hope she comes back soon. one of us needs to say something serious at some point, right?

i was just reading some of Songs and AnotherBob's insightful and eloquent posts on the 'Anthropological REview of Sex' thread, and juxtaposed against my last post concerning poop, it's beginning to make me feel a little inadequate LOL

i suppose i'll have to post something proper at some point (sigh)...just not tonight.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Since the Pub activity seems to be quite brisk tonight I would like to call attention to ... and heap adoration on ... a remarkably clever and ingenuitive Patron (who shall remain nameless) that has come up with a ecologically correct solution to the problem we face while still awaiting that star freighter full of our supply of toilet paper.

Very bright chap ... that's using the ol' noggin!!! :clap2::humble::clap2:

If you post another picture of crap hats I'm going to work my computer hacking skillz and you will never ever see boobs in here again. Given the *excellent* picture I just posted... *smiles sweetly*

Besides, that's not a crap hat. *Here* are some really crap hats.

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQDDWldX5Be42zndXxSfmQir0eDPQG245fJBFvziWWPKvoERji

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/110725/a_mdf78506_172pm28-172pm2b.jpg

http://www.midnightdreamslingerie.com/mens%20costume%20dickhead.jpg

You may not want to do *that* again. Be warned. I can be vicious with my crap hattery.

[Mike]

i'm a big boob fan, but if i don't start getting in shape, i may find myself in a similar situation; though being male, i'm inclined to classify this as a 'lose-lose' type of situation:(

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsg1wiej1L1qdpxono1_500.jpg

The outfit is mine, the model is not. *smiles sweetly*



lovely.

that corset must be killing her waist, but damn it's worth it.

this is actually how i might envision you, Songs? any resemblance?

[Borden]

Have you been taking lessons from Bob on ninja pic skills, Songsy?

[songsfortheotherkind]

Since the Pub activity seems to be quite brisk tonight I would like to call attention to ... and heap adoration on ... a remarkably clever and ingenuitive Patron (who shall remain nameless) that has come up with a ecologically correct solution to the problem we face while still awaiting that star freighter full of our supply of toilet paper.

Very bright chap ... that's using the ol' noggin!!! :clap2::humble::clap2:


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God, and to think: i've just been sh!tting my pants the old fashioned way this whole time!:doh:

And to think, here I was, thinking that it was going to be all wit and eloquence when you returned...

[Mike]

Since the Pub activity seems to be quite brisk tonight I would like to call attention to ... and heap adoration on ... a remarkably clever and ingenuitive Patron (who shall remain nameless) that has come up with a ecologically correct solution to the problem we face while still awaiting that star freighter full of our supply of toilet paper.

Very bright chap ... that's using the ol' noggin!!! :clap2::humble::clap2:


15095




God, and to think: i've just been sh!tting my pants the old fashioned way this whole time!:doh:

And to think, here I was, thinking that it was going to be all wit and eloquence when you returned...



wit and eloquence? me? i think you must have me confused with Borden.

sorry Songs, lot's going on at the moment; i'm exhausted and not really bringing my 'A' game tonight......

oh, ok you got me: i heard you were doling out sado-maso punishments for bad posters tonight, and i was really tanking on purpose. please don't bite me!

[songsfortheotherkind]

i'm a big boob fan, but if i don't start getting in shape, i may find myself in a similar situation; though being male, i'm inclined to classify this as a 'lose-lose' type of situation:(

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsg1wiej1L1qdpxono1_500.jpg

The outfit is mine, the model is not. *smiles sweetly*



lovely.

that corset must be killing her waist, but damn it's worth it.

this is actually how i might envision you, Songs? any resemblance?

Corsets are actually awesome to wear, although mine is black and emerald green, not the paler one shown here. And I don't tend to wear it out without the short front skirt, lol.

My hair is garnet and ruby colored, yes, I have piercings, yes, can't see the tattoo from this angle, I have better curves and my mind is awesome, what else could there possibly be? Well, at least that I can mention on a PG-13 rated forum anyhoo, heh heh heh...

[161803398]

yeah 16 is okay with me. I never studied dreams at all, but i had a close friend who did counselling and people's dream's were always coming up. It seemed the symbolism devised by the brain is actually cleverly simple...sometimes even amusingly simple. Its almost like the brain has a mind of its own.

[Calz]

If you post another picture of crap hats I'm going to work my computer hacking skillz and you will never ever see boobs in here again. Given the *excellent* picture I just posted... *smiles sweetly*

You may not want to do *that* again. Be warned. I can be vicious with my crap hattery.



Oooooh ... take away nourishment from a hungry toddlers mouth you would???

Heart of steel you have???
[or perhaps bronze]


15098



Not without some skills of my own I am ...


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15097

[Borden]

Chinaski, after a certain comment you may have made in post 641 ... is there anyone you would like Spidey to web to a flag-pole for you, my friend?

[Mike]

well, now you have me envisioning a goth-ed out Marilyn Monroe...

and i'm going to take that image to bed with me now. very late over here. g'night to all the pubbers. remember your water n aspirin before you lay down--no hangovers this way.

over n out guys n gals...

[songsfortheotherkind]

God, and to think: i've just been sh!tting my pants the old fashioned way this whole time!:doh:


And to think, here I was, thinking that it was going to be all wit and eloquence when you returned...


wit and eloquence? me? i think you must have me confused with Borden. *laughing* I may be a daftie but I don't think I'm *that* big a daftie- he's the one wearing the matrix glasses, you're the one with the cigarette...


sorry Songs, lot's going on at the moment; i'm exhausted and not really bringing my 'A' game tonight......

I set up this fine establishment, I don't police it- I might occasionally bite, but that's just to keep the patrons on their- toes, yes.

I get the exhausted, we have many excellent piles of ridiculously comfortable cushions, although if you're really tired I'd recommend avoiding the throb-a-tron couches- there have been Incidents, you see, individuals overestimating their staying powe...


oh, ok you got me: i heard you were doling out sado-maso punishments for bad posters tonight, and i was really tanking on purpose. please don't bite me! I never bite anyone who reeeeeeeeeally wants it... *laughing*

[Calz]

sorry Songs, lot's going on at the moment; i'm exhausted and not really bringing my 'A' game tonight......

oh, ok you got me: i heard you were doling out sado-maso punishments for bad posters tonight, and i was really tanking on purpose. please don't bite me!


... are there patty wagon ships at the End of the Universe???

Tonight might be the night??? :whip:

[Borden]

'Night Chinaski ...

Water and aspirin before bed ... or Scotch for breakfast ... each to their own.

Calz ... bravo, sir! Is everyone a pic Jedi except me? Dammit!

[Mike]

Chinaski, after a certain comment you may have made in post 641 ... is there anyone you would like Spidey to web to a flag-pole for you, my friend?


hmmmm??? let me get back to you on that one (he-he) it might become a list, actually.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Oooooh ... take away nourishment from a hungry toddlers mouth you would???
You are a hungry toddler? *That* explains a lot!!


Not without some skills of my own I am ...


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15096&d=1332996161

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15097&d=1332996170

*cracks up laughing*

I loves you, I does, I can't help it...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Calz ... bravo, sir! Is everyone a pic Jedi except me? Dammit!

heh heh heh...

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9fuiuYAHtICr1-0TqouYzs8HuiJFe3wguf8Yv39Ej1WpEIdrBSQ

yes, yes we are...

[songsfortheotherkind]

And now, something for the one who can trip over his cape while hanging upside down. With orangey love!

http://www4.clikpic.com/jamesboardman/images/070528_JSB_bank_holiday_01.jpg

http://www.virginballoonflights.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Brabners-Chaffe-Street-Space-Hoppers.jpg

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/spacehopperPA_450x294.jpg

[Calz]

Just for sh!ts n giggles I am of the mind to pose a semi-serious query for Songs. Virus thread seems to be getting sleepy and aside from dream interpretation we have been having *way* too much fun here.

Listened to the recent Clifford Stone and Bob Dean interview by Kerry and was curious to hear from a virus/hybrid/other voices in the ear perspective ... agreement or not relating to at least this small portion:

_______________________



BD: Let me tell you something. It's not easy to say that there are the good guys and there are the bad guys, and we're in the middle. That's true to a certain extent, and it's been true for the last ten thousand years.

But it isn't particularly true today, because a third party has entered the game.

CS: Mm-hm.

BD: An advanced culture -- God knows who they are and what they are, but they're the higher in the aniar ... ant ... anta ... what [do] they call it, the hierarchy?

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: These guys at the top of the hierarchy are primarily spiritual in nature, and they have intervened.

And they have said: ‘Listen -- we've had enough of this bull****, where you've warred among yourselves, you've had these clan disagreements and blah blah blah blah; this family and that family and that culture and that group.

That's going to cease, because the human race has been in the damn middle for long now, that they've reached a cul ... a critical point in their evolution and their development.

And we're going to have to see that the human race survives and makes this awkward, painful transition into a new race, into a new species.’

And this higher element, this higher spiritual element in the hierarchy, has intervened. And they have literally said, Kerry: ‘Knock off the bull****. We're not going to have any more of this. There's not going to be any more planetary wars. We've had enough of that.

We've lost too many millions of people over the years. We're going to control this carefully. We're going to give them encouragement. We're going to give them an opportunity. And we're going to assist them to make this awkward transition into a new race.’

Now, the only reason I'm hopeful now ... When I used to go through this, I was very depressed and very cynical, because I'd seen so damn much of the knock-down, drag-out brawls, not only among our own people, but among some of these guys. And then I found out that there is this third party now, that's involved ...

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: ... that couldn't care less about the clan disputes and the family differ ... disagreements and all that.

All they care is to see that the human species makes this awkward transition into a new race and can reach out and take our rightful place in space. And go to the stars where we belong, for God's sake.

KC: Okay. But that's their, that's their intention.

That's what you’ve been told they want to do, because you were taken off-world by them supposedly and told this.

BD: Yes, I was. And they've given me encouragement.

KC: Okay.

BD: And they've showed me the future, Kerry. And the future is glorious!

We are going to make it, and we're going to look back at this awkward period, this blackness that we've been through for the last century or two, and we're going to look back like students of history and say: 'My God! Look what they went through! Look what they did to each other!'

We're going to look back in the fu... from the future, into this particular time and place, and we're going to say: 'How in the world did they pull that off? Here they are, killing hundreds of millions of people in these wars, butchering each other. This has got to cease!’

KC: Okay, but...


http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/deanandstone_twilight/dean_and_stone.html

[Calz]

And now, something for the one who can trip over his cape while hanging upside down. With orangey love!

http://www4.clikpic.com/jamesboardman/images/070528_JSB_bank_holiday_01.jpg


http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/spacehopperPA_450x294.jpg


Complaints of the bouncing buffoons have been flooding the switchboard.

The State, with it's usual iron fist of might, has sent the appropriate forces to deal with the matter and protect the public.


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[Borden]

At this juncture I feel the need to post something macabre. Don't worry, it rocks rather.

pe6uWzwQ1FE

Creepy Bowie!

[songsfortheotherkind]

The State, with it's usual iron fist of might, has sent the appropriate forces to deal with the matter and protect the public.


[http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15106&d=1333011496

Yes, they're heartily glad for the replacement equipment after the previous debacle-

http://cache.jezebel.com/assets/images/7/2010/02/penny-farthing-crash.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/8/a81b7446-f4db-46ff-b7c5-0dbb4a137699.jpg

[Mike]

Just for sh!ts n giggles I am of the mind to pose a semi-serious query for Songs. Virus thread seems to be getting sleepy and aside from dream interpretation we have been having *way* too much fun here.

Listened to the recent Clifford Stone and Bob Dean interview by Kerry and was curious to hear from a virus/hybrid/other voices in the ear perspective ... agreement or not relating to at least this small portion:

_______________________



BD: Let me tell you something. It's not easy to say that there are the good guys and there are the bad guys, and we're in the middle. That's true to a certain extent, and it's been true for the last ten thousand years.

But it isn't particularly true today, because a third party has entered the game.

CS: Mm-hm.

BD: An advanced culture -- God knows who they are and what they are, but they're the higher in the aniar ... ant ... anta ... what [do] they call it, the hierarchy?

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: These guys at the top of the hierarchy are primarily spiritual in nature, and they have intervened.

And they have said: ‘Listen -- we've had enough of this bull****, where you've warred among yourselves, you've had these clan disagreements and blah blah blah blah; this family and that family and that culture and that group.

That's going to cease, because the human race has been in the damn middle for long now, that they've reached a cul ... a critical point in their evolution and their development.

And we're going to have to see that the human race survives and makes this awkward, painful transition into a new race, into a new species.’

And this higher element, this higher spiritual element in the hierarchy, has intervened. And they have literally said, Kerry: ‘Knock off the bull****. We're not going to have any more of this. There's not going to be any more planetary wars. We've had enough of that.

We've lost too many millions of people over the years. We're going to control this carefully. We're going to give them encouragement. We're going to give them an opportunity. And we're going to assist them to make this awkward transition into a new race.’

Now, the only reason I'm hopeful now ... When I used to go through this, I was very depressed and very cynical, because I'd seen so damn much of the knock-down, drag-out brawls, not only among our own people, but among some of these guys. And then I found out that there is this third party now, that's involved ...

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: ... that couldn't care less about the clan disputes and the family differ ... disagreements and all that.

All they care is to see that the human species makes this awkward transition into a new race and can reach out and take our rightful place in space. And go to the stars where we belong, for God's sake.

KC: Okay. But that's their, that's their intention.

That's what you’ve been told they want to do, because you were taken off-world by them supposedly and told this.

BD: Yes, I was. And they've given me encouragement.

KC: Okay.

BD: And they've showed me the future, Kerry. And the future is glorious!

We are going to make it, and we're going to look back at this awkward period, this blackness that we've been through for the last century or two, and we're going to look back like students of history and say: 'My God! Look what they went through! Look what they did to each other!'

We're going to look back in the fu... from the future, into this particular time and place, and we're going to say: 'How in the world did they pull that off? Here they are, killing hundreds of millions of people in these wars, butchering each other. This has got to cease!’

KC: Okay, but...


http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/deanandstone_twilight/dean_and_stone.html



a third party? hmmm.

right when we think we've figured it all out, right?

"There are more things on heaven and earth Calzatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy!"

i like Bob Dean. I like his message. I like his cigars, and I like the fact that he drinks Jack Daniels. we'll have to run it by Songs, of course, but i think we should award the man with an honorary "Pub" degree. all in favor say 'aye'...or third eye...or...

in all seriousness, i listened to the interview and enjoyed it immensely. may even listen to it again.

(oops, you were asking for Songs opinion, right? Chinaski shuts his trap and slides back into the shadows, pretending to talk on his cell phone because that's what he does when he feels really awkward)

[PurpleLama]

Here is a vote for Bob Dean's honorary "Pub" degree.

[Calz]

a third party? hmmm.

right when we think we've figured it all out, right?

"There are more things on heaven and earth Calzatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy!"

i like Bob Dean. I like his message. I like his cigars, and I like the fact that he drinks Jack Daniels. we'll have to run it by Songs, of course, but i think we should award the man with an honorary "Pub" degree. all in favor say 'aye'...or third eye...or...

in all seriousness, i listened to the interview and enjoyed it immensely. may even listen to it again.

(oops, you were asking for Songs opinion, right? Chinaski shuts his trap and slides back into the shadows, pretending to talk on his cell phone because that's what he does when he feels really awkward)


Thanks to you and Purple for your input.

Perhaps we need to send Songs some healing energy ... it would appear I have shocked her into silence by submitting a serious post???

:shocked::fear::scared:


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[Calz]

Rut Ro ...

Looks like one of the Pub Patrons has been apprehended after too much participation.

Perhaps he should have considered removing that sticker from his vehicle before venturing about???

Take note Pub Patrons and learn from our fallen brothren ...


15150


Man sings classic rock song from backseat of cop car

All it takes to achieve immortality on the Internet is belt a drunken rendition of "Bohemian Rhapsody" from the back of a squad car. This Canadian man regales the arresting police officer with the Queen power anthem after a DUI bust, impressively remembering all of the words, even if most of them are slurred. YouTube commenters just want to know one thing: How in the world did the cop not sing along? For those who don't want to find themselves embarrassingly broadcast in a similar situation, there's this shrewd little technique called "sleeping it off" that works wonders.

http://now.msn.com/now/0329-drunk-bohemian-rhapsody.aspx


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[songsfortheotherkind]

Just for sh!ts n giggles I am of the mind to pose a semi-serious query for Songs. Virus thread seems to be getting sleepy and aside from dream interpretation we have been having *way* too much fun here.

Ok. I'm totally up for semi-serious, mostly serious, deadly serious, and serious with a side of fries; however, there is categorically and definitively no such thing as way too much fun. It's been scientifically proven! With test tubes n stuff! And screaming subjects pleading for mercy- no, wait- wrong context-


Listened to the recent Clifford Stone and Bob Dean interview by Kerry and was curious to hear from a virus/hybrid/other voices in the ear perspective ... agreement or not relating to at least this small portion:

_______________________

BD: Let me tell you something. It's not easy to say that there are the good guys and there are the bad guys, and we're in the middle. That's true to a certain extent, and it's been true for the last ten thousand years.

But it isn't particularly true today, because a third party has entered the game.

CS: Mm-hm.

BD: An advanced culture -- God knows who they are and what they are, but they're the higher in the aniar ... ant ... anta ... what [do] they call it, the hierarchy?

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: These guys at the top of the hierarchy are primarily spiritual in nature, and they have intervened.

And they have said: ‘Listen -- we've had enough of this bull****, where you've warred among yourselves, you've had these clan disagreements and blah blah blah blah; this family and that family and that culture and that group.

That's going to cease, because the human race has been in the damn middle for long now, that they've reached a cul ... a critical point in their evolution and their development.

And we're going to have to see that the human race survives and makes this awkward, painful transition into a new race, into a new species.’

And this higher element, this higher spiritual element in the hierarchy, has intervened. And they have literally said, Kerry: ‘Knock off the bull****. We're not going to have any more of this. There's not going to be any more planetary wars. We've had enough of that.

We've lost too many millions of people over the years. We're going to control this carefully. We're going to give them encouragement. We're going to give them an opportunity. And we're going to assist them to make this awkward transition into a new race.’

Now, the only reason I'm hopeful now ... When I used to go through this, I was very depressed and very cynical, because I'd seen so damn much of the knock-down, drag-out brawls, not only among our own people, but among some of these guys. And then I found out that there is this third party now, that's involved ...

KC: Mm-hm.

BD: ... that couldn't care less about the clan disputes and the family differ ... disagreements and all that.

All they care is to see that the human species makes this awkward transition into a new race and can reach out and take our rightful place in space. And go to the stars where we belong, for God's sake.

KC: Okay. But that's their, that's their intention.

That's what you’ve been told they want to do, because you were taken off-world by them supposedly and told this.

BD: Yes, I was. And they've given me encouragement.

KC: Okay.

BD: And they've showed me the future, Kerry. And the future is glorious!

We are going to make it, and we're going to look back at this awkward period, this blackness that we've been through for the last century or two, and we're going to look back like students of history and say: 'My God! Look what they went through! Look what they did to each other!'

We're going to look back in the fu... from the future, into this particular time and place, and we're going to say: 'How in the world did they pull that off? Here they are, killing hundreds of millions of people in these wars, butchering each other. This has got to cease!’

KC: Okay, but...


http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/deanandstone_twilight/dean_and_stone.html

Ok, I have left the quote as is and will use it to illustrate certain points.

Firstly- the usual caveat. This is *my* Sui Generis perspective and experience, which I've been asked for.

I wrote in my recent thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43036-Missives-from-the-Outposts-of-the-Evolution-Revolution...&p=456935&viewfull=1#post456935) as well as the general themes of my thinking here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42688-Perspectives-on-the-mind-virus-booby-traps-and-other-fun-stuff.&p=452032&viewfull=1#post452032), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41712-Perspectives-on-being-a-Singularity.&p=439334&viewfull=1#post439334) and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42108-Some-Different-Songs.&p=443469&viewfull=1#post443469). There is a theme in my writing: Sui Generis and do no harm.

Sui Generis is a perspective in which the absolute sovereignty, for want of a better word, of the individual is upheld. In practical terms, this means that there is an understanding that the path of the individual is perfect for *that individual* and that it is only when harm is involved that intervention is warranted given certain parameters and protocols that again involve the Sui Generis principles. In other words, it's complex and any Beings that would act in Intervention are tasked to bear the consequences of such acts.

'Harm' is a very personally subjective and often biased perspective- the concept of harm is easily confused within the minds of those who are clouded by virus. A simple explanation of harm can be in allowing a young child to undergo a painful medical procedure because the condition they are suffering from requires it as part of treatment: the child experiences great harm at the hands of adults, harm that no matter how much they protest or try to defend themselves from is still done to them and they experience their beloved caregivers as allowing this process. No matter how the caregivers put it, no matter how much reassurance and support is given, the child experiences a bewildering and betraying allowance of what it experiences as harm and this can leave permanent fractures in their world view if not consciously addressed over time. Human adults are very clear about the benefits and necessity of this sort of harm- it is to save a life, and one day they'll understand: what this *actually* means is that the child's platform *will* most likely fracture in some way but this is acceptable given the alternative of death and thus sometimes, harm is the lesser of two 'evils'.

At what point, then, is it beneficial to intervene in the process of humans struggling through their blindness to their own follies?

Another aspect of harm is the self inflicted kind that arises from a severe shattering of any operating platforms that frame 'the world' in a way that allows the individual to experience concepts of 'safe', 'I am ok here' and other ground level solidities that allow an individual to live in the world, with all its uncertainties, with a level of 'don't panic' and relative ability to function emotionally. Those whose platforms are ruptured don't have this ability and will engage in all kinds of behaviours that can be considered self-harming, life threatening etc.

It is impossible to dissuade, through logical persuasion, an individual so inclined from harming themselves repeatedly: what then is often the next step is the making of the decision to physically intervene, either with physical or chemical restraints, 'therapies', physical imprisonment framed as 'interventive hospitalisation' et al, which are more often than not harmful to the individual in the now and can result in staggering disability in the future. The platforms that individuals- or groups of individuals- use in order to decide if, when and how such violations of the right to choose one's path, no matter how discordant or self destructive that might appear to others, shall be administered. Rationalisations can be applied to anything, and from either ends of the spectrum.

I am a Being that is not interested in rationalisations, no matter how artfully they're arranged or how masterfully they're presented. My 'Verse is founded on the two principles I espouse and the intricate explorations, exchanges and experiences that arise- both internally and externally- with these as my platforms. I absolutely hold the right for other individuals to have whatever experience they wish to have, whether they are arranging this with conscious awareness and attention or not. I will readily hold out my hands to dance with another in whatever form that takes as long as the Sui Generis of both is in the space; I will not tell another what to do even when they ask- I'll illustrate my perspective, share my experiences and learnings, offer a vision of the platform that I am operating from and extend practical assistance if I am moved to but I will not indulge the virus.

It appears that it's being suggested that a millions year old collective experiences mass intervention of the ' oh ffs, you aren't doing it right, here give it to ME' kind is the best approach to the issues at hand. I am of the experience that a collective of Beings (regardless of the homogenous labels of species or kind) tends to get the governments, gods, saviours and enemies (often all four in the one) that they create out of the quality of the frequency they are choosing to use as their foundation, either consciously or not.

To my perspective and experience, this whole unfolding is a spiritual one wherein the individual is invited to realise the cosmic level creative power of intention, integrity, purpose and focus that they inherently possess. For me, everything that is being played out is spiritual. Everything. Including all those things that individuals think *aren't* spiritually connected. So, if the collective here on this planet is going to insist on the creation of governments, gods, saviours and enemies then they're going to get them, because that's what is necessary to evolve the consciousness. Universe is helpful like that.

There are many individuals out there wanting government, a god, a saviour, an enemy- and they're busily creating them, pouring out all this creative energy with that goal in mind. The energy, creative force, isn't discriminating- it will obligingly manifest whatever is demanded providing the signal is clear enough, like any molecular translating device. The question is, how creative is the one doing the demanding, the requesting? What sort of vision is being brought into creation? The vision of a 'benevolent' millions year old race that is smug enough in its own superiority that it thinks none of the myriads of Beings involved in this project on this planet know what they're doing so therefore said benevolent race is going to ride in like the rescuing knight and save all these floundering Beings, who refuse to take personal responsibility, from their own spiritual process? This is the best that can be envisioned, more hierarchy and future conflict?

Um, not by my reckoning. Talk with me for an hour - hell, give me ten minutes- and I can lay out a vision that kicks that one in the arse. And I'm just *one* Being.

Are these entities real? What's 'real'? Who cares? Not me. I have no need for or interest in government, gods, saviours or enemies; I'm happy to deal with things as the Sui Generis Being I am, I'm not in the least bit interested in hierarchies, elaborate handshakes, strings of letters after a name, Supreme Commander, Big Cheese, Head Banana and Lord of the Universe (with the piece of paper to prove it too!)- all of that blibble is, to this Sui Generis being, just another distortion of mind virus one man band, the frantic and wheezing cyclist behind the distorted and wibbling green head of the Great and Powerful Oz.

What's being played out, at least to my eyes, is a gigantic 'pick your universe!' shift, in which one gets to decide what kind of game one is up for. Put me up against any hierarchy argument and I'll demolish it without getting out of my throb-a-tron chair; same goes for gods, governments, enemies and saviours. I'm the Zaphod Beeblebrox of my Self, bouncing out of the Total Perspective Vortex munching on the cake and grinning hugely, knowing that ultimately I Am the Creator of my Sui Generis universe. I'm not here to save anyone, govern anyone, be anyone's god or enemy or even persuade any Being to any way of thinking at all: what I'm doing here is expressing- in the best and constantly evolving way that I can in every moment- the Being that I am, the aspect of the hologram I'm seeing, and engaging in co-creation with other Beings in whatever way that is in the moment. That's what I've got.

The Otherkind and non-terrestrial intelligences that I hang out with have as much interest in all that domination hierarchical stuff as I do. I'm not here to save the masses- have you ever tried to rescue someone from themselves? It doesn't go well. I have no idea at all where the masses are planning on taking their lurching, leaking and unfunvee vessel to, but it's not the ship *I'm* steering; mine looks much like this place, populated with Beings that find the idea of anything other than embracing Sui Generis evolution ludicrous and who don't take offense at a friendly and rambunctious lightsabre riot raging around them, ending in an equally friendly and rambunctious orgy rampaging around a heavily laden smorgasboard and interspersed with witty conversation, flurries of pic ninja activities and hilarious/disturbing shapeshifter party tricks.

I am interested in those who aren't afraid to do what it takes to become their own Neo, who can get kicked in the head by their own crap and will dust themselves off, shake their head and take the next step forward having taken the lesson on board, who aren't interested in rationalisations and bull**** manipulations, who can come up with a better vision than the endless regurgitation of the virus inspired 'you need to be dominated and controlled' programs that have been running for so long. I come from a universe that runs the Sui Generis way. There are, after all, so many far better creations...

In the end, it all depends on what the individual is *really* up for. As it so happens, I'm up for some really interesting stuff...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Perhaps we need to send Songs some healing energy ... it would appear I have shocked her into silence by submitting a serious post???

:shocked::fear::scared:


*laughing* not shocked at all, just getting caught up on things in my Other life as well as writing massive replies and posts- I'm organising for parts of my film to be done, writing music for it, trying to edit my raving down to under less than a week.

[songsfortheotherkind]

well I was all ready to come here and have an intellectual rant about exciting and evolutionary things that happened to me today-




tick ... tick ... tick :clock:


Rather big buildup for a cut and run there oh OP mistress?


Intellectual rants are good (at least better than those from blithering idiots).


Is there a story here to be shared or have us heathen sexo/alco holics driven you away already???

lolz. I can't believe I missed this way back when, it was *such* an opportunity! Fear not, my little blue friend, I shall not miss future opportunities...


Me thinks not (and I won't prove that I am a male or my wifee may take away that option in the future :shocked: )

I, joyfully, have no idea of the mating habits of smurfs. I would like to keep it that way. And I thought in smurfland there was only *one* girl, so I thought wife wasn't the preferred way to go...



The boundaries seem to have been laid and it would appear we are all quite accepting and forgiving.

Anything (else) to get off your chest??? :whistle:

No, my chest is perfectly fine, I could do with a back rub though...

[songsfortheotherkind]

And now, from the wonderful world of autocorrect...

http://www.boredpanda.com/funniest-autocorrects-of-2011/

[Borden]

Some of those autocorrects were very funny.

Is it completely onanistic to enjoy them while knowing full well that many of them are utterly contrived and take the reader for an idiot in assuming that they don't know that? Perhaps. I like fiction. There are many interviews talked about in this forum that I actually watch all the way through even though the first five minutes have told me everything I need to know about the subject matter and the person. Yes, everything I need to know. Not everything about their chosen subject or about them ... but everything I need to know.

You are living in a co-operative projection. It's up to you which bits of it you want to give your attention. The landscape of your mind is entirely your choice.

[Cerridwen]

And now, from the wonderful world of autocorrect...

http://www.boredpanda.com/funniest-autocorrects-of-2011/

Damn you autocorrect (http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/) one of my all time favorite sites! When ever I'm feeling a bit down, I go read a few of those texts and soon I'm wiping tears from my eyes from laughing so hard.

Borden~ Yeah, I'm sure most are made up. It's still just silly funny though.

[Borden]

New avatar, new theme song.

wOZrGHmMl4o

Happy Friday everybody.

[songsfortheotherkind]

You are living in a co-operative projection. It's up to you which bits of it you want to give your attention. The landscape of your mind is entirely your choice.

This, this is the realm I love, choice and the landscape of my mind. Heading into the landscape of others is where things get surreal and strange for me- sometimes it's that which causes me to unconsciously slip back behind my veil, turn slightly sideways to everything because I remember what it can be like to be alone in territory that suddenly turns hostile. It's been an interesting journey so far, this poking my head out from behind the curtain...

[Normalguy31]

Rut Ro ...

Looks like one of the Pub Patrons has been apprehended after too much participation.

Perhaps he should have considered removing that sticker from his vehicle before venturing about???

Take note Pub Patrons and learn from our fallen brothren ...


15150


Man sings classic rock song from backseat of cop car

All it takes to achieve immortality on the Internet is belt a drunken rendition of "Bohemian Rhapsody" from the back of a squad car. This Canadian man regales the arresting police officer with the Queen power anthem after a DUI bust, impressively remembering all of the words, even if most of them are slurred. YouTube commenters just want to know one thing: How in the world did the cop not sing along? For those who don't want to find themselves embarrassingly broadcast in a similar situation, there's this shrewd little technique called "sleeping it off" that works wonders.

http://now.msn.com/now/0329-drunk-bohemian-rhapsody.aspx


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This is the funniest thing I have seen in months. I'm seriously crying right now from laughing so hard.


Thank you Calz. Thank you.

[Borden]

Look ... I'd had a few that night, I admit it. Can we drop it now? I was in fine voice though!

[songsfortheotherkind]

One good Withnail and Star Wars mashup deserves another.

Full credit to the brooding sith in the corner wearing the jaunty santa hat, winner of tonight's Devil Number Post, 666. Congratulations, Darth Awesome Hair!

Language warning- F word ahead...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3EVuoOo3kA&feature=relmfu

[Normalguy31]

Look ... I'd had a few that night, I admit it. Can we drop it now? I was in fine voice though!

I agree sir. Excellent performance considering. Even the solos were spot on.

[Mike]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good.

concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity. the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated. ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality; a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer; but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation? in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;))

[Borden]

Songsy, I asked you not to draw attention! You know that people only see what they want to see, dammit. Matrix guy has changed to Sith guy, but so what? Nobody freaks if they think it's all part of the plan. You start chucking numerical hints around and then even the mortals will put two and two together! I know they're thick, but even so! What are you doing?!

Quick ... a song!

JEgVI-IKpqk

There, that should throw 'em off the scent. Phew. Now be more careful, will you?!

[PurpleLama]

Sink or swim may indeed be the scenario, whether we like it or not.

[gripreaper]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good.

concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity. the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated. ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality; a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer; but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation? in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;))

There you go thinking again, about shifting the entire existing paradigm into something new. As Einstein said, "a probelm cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it"

I tend to agree with him, but I'm still laughing over Bohemian Rhapsody in my head!!

[Borden]

'Sink or swim' implies a scenario wherein we have a choice to do that. It's a philosophical question, not a viable option. The people who control this world aren't kidding around when it comes to the whole control business. Talking about doing away with hierarchies, control structures, etc., is just an idea. I have a suspicion that so many different ideas for society would probably work if only they weren't in the hands of corruptible human beings. What rises to the top sure ain't the cream.

[PurpleLama]

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[PurpleLama]

My eyes have once again been proven wrong
Your clouds, your blanket and my pity song
Hovering on your front lawn
Carry on until it's gone

What can I do? The river's overrun
We're swimming in a flood, you know?
I thought I felt your touch
But the water's rising up

Then I lie naked in a rampage
In the flesh, face to face with the onset
I forget everything that's ever made me
Rise again, now slowly leave my memory

What can I do? The river's overrun
We're swimming in a flood, you know?
I thought I felt your touch
But the water's rising up
Now all my lovers raise their cups

What can I do? The river's overrun
We're swimming in a flood, you know?
I thought I felt your touch
But the water's rising up
Now all my lovers raise their cups

[PurpleLama]

Some day you'll see
Surrounded by angels
Floating atop of the sea
Abandon me
Don't go where they go
Don't sing all the songs they sing

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

Between these walls
Her back, strange glimpse
Casts shadows frighteningly tall
I slow to a crawl
I jump and I yell
But she hears nothing at all

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

Stay, stay the same
'Cause everything else will change
And I've always been to blame
So please just stay the same

The currents pull me in
The tide has reached my chin
The seaweed tickles skin
Just let the water win

I'm freezing to the bone
You'll never be at home
Just watch, you're running out
Just watch your body go

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

Nobody knows you
The way you know you
But I think I do
But I thought I knew
Yeah, I thought I knew

KCtaJxjAnLI

[Mike]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good.

concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity. the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated. ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality; a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer; but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation? in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;))

There you go thinking again, about shifting the entire existing paradigm into something new. As Einstein said, "a probelm cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it"

I tend to agree with him, but I'm still laughing over Bohemian Rhapsody in my head!!



aren't we trying to shift the entire existing paradigm into something new?:confused:

nice quote, Reaper, but i'm not sure how it applies here, exactly. and who's Einstein? never heard of the guy.;)

if you're saying that a massive raise in consciousness is the best answer, i agree with you of course; but in terms of the 'here n now', practically speaking, how do we proceed pragmatically? would it be more desirable for a quick destruction of the current system and it's accompanying anarchy, or a slow death to allow time for our spirituality to reach a point where we can comfortably govern ourselves as individuals without chaos and the post-apocalyptic mad-max world everyone seems to think will result from a government-less society?

[Mike]

'Sink or swim' implies a scenario wherein we have a choice to do that. It's a philosophical question, not a viable option. The people who control this world aren't kidding around when it comes to the whole control business. Talking about doing away with hierarchies, control structures, etc., is just an idea. I have a suspicion that so many different ideas for society would probably work if only they weren't in the hands of corruptible human beings. What rises to the top sure ain't the cream.


i'm trying to reply here, but i just can't think straight with you staring at me like that...

so you don't think we have a choice in the matter, eh? where's your optimism, ya c#nt!?!;)

maybe you're right. i s'pose i'm assuming the ship is gonna go down here at some point, and i'm assuming we're gonna have something to do with it. then again, maybe i've seen too many Matrix movies.

anyway, assuming it collapses, my question is: do we want a quick explosion or a "controlled demolition" (if you will). each have their merits and drawbacks, but i often wonder if we're sufficiently evolved enough spiritually to deal (humanely) with what will initially be a very disorganized society when the cabal (hopefully) crumbles.

[Mike]

hey i kinda like that tune Lama. i'm not holding my breath waiting for the next incarnation of the Beatles, but i've tried to stay sorta hopeful that someone can make good 'pop' music again. these guys make a good sound.

note: though Borden kindly gave me a brief lesson in posting vids, i am simply too stupid to make it happen. if anyone would, on my behalf, post any song (or several) from the Verve's album 'Urban Hymns' (my favorite album of all-time) i'd greatly appreciate it.

[Calz]

note: though Borden kindly gave me a brief lesson in posting vids, i am simply too stupid to make it happen. if anyone would, on my behalf, post any song (or several) from the Verve's album 'Urban Hymns' (my favorite album of all-time) i'd greatly appreciate it.

I am work (mandatory ot slave to dah man stuff) and cannot post vids here ... if no one else does I will try to remember when I get home.

[Mike]

thanks Calz!

work...doesn't it just suck?

[Calz]

thanks Calz!

work...doesn't it just suck?

indeed ... but it beats *looking* for work eh?
[besides ... getting paid to have some virtual and digital frolic at the Pub ain't all bad :dirol:]

[gripreaper]

The Supreme Court, under the auspices of whether Obama care is legal, will one day decide if we have the right to eat eat broccoli, and how much broccoli were are allowed to eat. Remember this skit?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR6y71x3tSY

[gripreaper]

if you're saying that a massive raise in consciousness is the best answer, i agree with you of course; but in terms of the 'here n now', practically speaking, how do we proceed pragmatically? would it be more desirable for a quick destruction of the current system and it's accompanying anarchy, or a slow death to allow time for our spirituality to reach a point where we can comfortably govern ourselves as individuals without chaos and the post-apocalyptic mad-max world everyone seems to think will result from a government-less society?

I like the ending of the movie "Avatar" where we load them back onto their spaceships and send them back where they came from, and then we sit around the great spirit tree and sing "KumBaYa together again...

[Cerridwen]

Here ya go Chinaski! I've always liked this song, but will have to check out the rest of the album since you say it's your all time favorite.

1lyu1KKwC74

I had to use google to find out how to post videos.:cool: You only "copy" the part of the URL you want that comes after the v=

So, in the above URL it would be the 1lyu1KKwC74 part only.

Then hit the You Tube button when you go to post and "paste" it in between the ][

[Calz]

Here ya go Chinaski! I've always liked this song, but will have to check out the rest of the album since you say it's your all time favorite.

I had to use google to find out how to post videos.:cool: You only "copy" the part of the URL you want that comes after the v=

So, in the above URL it would be the 1lyu1KKwC74 part only.

Then hit the You Tube button when you go to post and "paste" it in between the ][

Actually the :mod: mods :mod: have simplified it since then ... you no longer have to parse out the text following the "v=" (provided it is a youtube). Simply cut and paste the address, highlight it then click on the little YouTube icon upper right of text box.

All there is to it. :smokin:

[Guest]

Hi Chinaski

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I'm not the greatest at formatting either.


Have good dreams.

Love

Nora

[ThePythonicCow]

I had to use google to find out how to post videos.:cool: You only "copy" the part of the URL you want that comes after the v=

So, in the above URL it would be the 1lyu1KKwC74 part only.

Then hit the You Tube button when you go to post and "paste" it in between the ][
Actually, you can now put the entire youtube video URL between the ... markers, if that's easier. Sometime a half year ago, Ilie added some code to the server to automatically find the key 11 character Youtube ID (e.g. 1lyu1KKwC74) buried in the URL and automatically extract it for you.

P.S. -- I see Calz beat me to it :).

[Applecart]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/modernmilk/pub2.jpg

[RunningDeer]

This doesn't fit the thread.

[Mike]

Cerridwen, thanks for posting. You're the best! (And Nora, too! thanks Nora;)) that's a great single, but do check out the rest of the album if you can! it has a very dreamy, ethereal feel to it. and that guy Ashcroft is a studio genius.

@WCBD: we're not worthy! we're not worthy!:fans: that is so cool.

@Applecart: you've read my mind as far as depicting the pub's ambiance. somehow i've always envisioned it exactly as pictured, at least as far as the lighting and the furniture. but who's that sleeping there? P'Lama, is that you? wake up, man!

[Mike]

thanks Calz!

work...doesn't it just suck?

indeed ... but it beats *looking* for work eh?
[besides ... getting paid to have some virtual and digital frolic at the Pub ain't all bad :dirol:]



correct you certainly are, wise n blue Yoda.

looking for work: nothing worse than trying really hard to do something you really don't wanna do in the first place.

[RUSirius]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good.

concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity. the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated. ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality; a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer; but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation? in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;))

There you go thinking again, about shifting the entire existing paradigm into something new. As Einstein said, "a probelm cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it"

I tend to agree with him, but I'm still laughing over Bohemian Rhapsody in my head!!



aren't we trying to shift the entire existing paradigm into something new?:confused:

nice quote, Reaper, but i'm not sure how it applies here, exactly. and who's Einstein? never heard of the guy.;)

if you're saying that a massive raise in consciousness is the best answer, i agree with you of course; but in terms of the 'here n now', practically speaking, how do we proceed pragmatically? would it be more desirable for a quick destruction of the current system and it's accompanying anarchy, or a slow death to allow time for our spirituality to reach a point where we can comfortably govern ourselves as individuals without chaos and the post-apocalyptic mad-max world everyone seems to think will result from a government-less society?

ok same thoughts lately, exactly the same, do our thoughts on the subject potentially guide the outcome? Is that our only form of "control" on this matter yet to be seen by me?

[Borden]

'Sink or swim' implies a scenario wherein we have a choice to do that. It's a philosophical question, not a viable option. The people who control this world aren't kidding around when it comes to the whole control business. Talking about doing away with hierarchies, control structures, etc., is just an idea. I have a suspicion that so many different ideas for society would probably work if only they weren't in the hands of corruptible human beings. What rises to the top sure ain't the cream.


i'm trying to reply here, but i just can't think straight with you staring at me like that...

so you don't think we have a choice in the matter, eh? where's your optimism, ya c#nt!?!;)

maybe you're right. i s'pose i'm assuming the ship is gonna go down here at some point, and i'm assuming we're gonna have something to do with it. then again, maybe i've seen too many Matrix movies.

anyway, assuming it collapses, my question is: do we want a quick explosion or a "controlled demolition" (if you will). each have their merits and drawbacks, but i often wonder if we're sufficiently evolved enough spiritually to deal (humanely) with what will initially be a very disorganized society when the cabal (hopefully) crumbles.

Why do you think I had to wear sunglasses so long? My eyes are warm and friendly in this picture. How dare you.

And I don't know why you would call me a cent, but perhaps it is an American currency related insult. It doesn't make much sense to me, but I will forgive you on the grounds that you are American and may not understand that there are in fact other countries in the world, and that they do not use cents or know insults derived from them. I'm sure it has something to do with either cheeseburgers or war.

Any more than one Matrix movie is too many.

I think that if the cabal crumbles in either fashion, we will see a world whose first order of business will be how to get all the toxic medicine, toxic food, toxic currency, etc back on-line. People's freedom of thought has been bred out of them. This is where people are ... this is what people have got. To most people, any amount of global tumult and rearrangement will fail to cause tumult and rearrangement of the mind. It will only hit their panic buttons and they will immediately be looking for someone else to take charge. Disorganization will most likely result in exactly the same kind of re-organization. Just look at world history.

One on one, person to person - I am not and couldn't be so apparently cynical. Of course not. I'm not a complete cent. But the human race is an idiot. If the UFOs are real, then their failure to communicate and land on the White House lawn and that sort of thing is probably something akin to us not opening the car doors when we drive through a safari park.

Your friendly neighbourhood misanthrope.


(p.s. I love your new signature.)

[PurpleLama]

*PurpleLama flips the switch on the Improbability Drive*

I don't see the future being a result of the past.

nxNyoAMqRXQ

....different.

[songsfortheotherkind]

http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens19181806_1330519321a_a__a.jpg

ah, now *that's* the upgrade they were looking for!

oooh, Pub injoke! mwahahahaha!

and hello, Chinaski, I see you there. :D

[Mike]

'Sink or swim' implies a scenario wherein we have a choice to do that. It's a philosophical question, not a viable option. The people who control this world aren't kidding around when it comes to the whole control business. Talking about doing away with hierarchies, control structures, etc., is just an idea. I have a suspicion that so many different ideas for society would probably work if only they weren't in the hands of corruptible human beings. What rises to the top sure ain't the cream.


i'm trying to reply here, but i just can't think straight with you staring at me like that...

so you don't think we have a choice in the matter, eh? where's your optimism, ya c#nt!?!;)

maybe you're right. i s'pose i'm assuming the ship is gonna go down here at some point, and i'm assuming we're gonna have something to do with it. then again, maybe i've seen too many Matrix movies.

anyway, assuming it collapses, my question is: do we want a quick explosion or a "controlled demolition" (if you will). each have their merits and drawbacks, but i often wonder if we're sufficiently evolved enough spiritually to deal (humanely) with what will initially be a very disorganized society when the cabal (hopefully) crumbles.

Why do you think I had to wear sunglasses so long? My eyes are warm and friendly in this picture. How dare you.

And I don't know why you would call me a cent, but perhaps it is an American currency related insult. It doesn't make much sense to me, but I will forgive you on the grounds that you are American and may not understand that there are in fact other countries in the world, and that they do not use cents or know insults derived from them. I'm sure it has something to do with either cheeseburgers or war.

Any more than one Matrix movie is too many.

I think that if the cabal crumbles in either fashion, we will see a world whose first order of business will be how to get all the toxic medicine, toxic food, toxic currency, etc back on-line. People's freedom of thought has been bred out of them. This where people are ... this is what people have got. To most people, any amount of global tumult and rearrangement will fail to cause tumult and rearrangement of the mind. It will only hit their panic buttons and they will immediately be looking for someone else to take charge. Disorganization will most likely result in exactly the same kind of re-organization. Just look at world history.

One on one, person to person - I am not and couldn't be so apparently cynical. Of course not. I'm not a complete cent. But the human race is an idiot. If the UFOs are real, then their failure to communicate and land on the White House lawn and that sort of thing is probably something akin to us not opening the car doors when we drive through a safari park.

Your friendly neighbourhood misanthrope.


(p.s. I love your new signature.)



close. it has to do with cheeseburgers, war, *and* apple pie. (you're thinking like an insect again!) but i'll forgive you on the grounds that you are a Brit, and next time i'm joking i'll be sure to include references to bad teeth, yorkshire pudding, and a 'spot of tea'.

i probably wasn't making any sense in previous posts but you'll have to forgive me. truthfully, i just felt the need to attempt something serious as a penance for my recent frivolity.

i'd like to take credit for the signature, but it's from the movie 'Arthur'. I'd love to post the clip but i'm too dumb.

p.s. i'm speaking of the Dudley Moore Arthur too, not that ****#y version with Russell Brand.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Before I reply to individual posts, I'd like to make this observation- there seems to be a general inclination to looking at the issue from a 'the solution lies out there *points to outside one's own energy field* through 'them' doing/being/getting- '; that's the exact opposite of what I was talking about.

Here's the thing- my future, considering the kind of Being I am, is looking utterly Spocked if I'm dependent on whatever the spock the masses are doing. Utterly spocked! I'm not streets ahead of where the masses are in terms of perspective, awareness of the virus and what to do about it, self hacking and the ilk, I'm not even on the same map because we're not in the same country, on the same continent, or even on the same planet in terms of thinking, experience, Sight, what have you. I have no intention of having the same fate as Thomas Jerome Newton, thanks very much- I have recently had some profound reminders that energy is powerful, dismisses distance and barrier, and has the ability to definitely affect the physical: I'm not accepting the limited version of 'how things work' that is being pimped by the virus, creeping its insidious and covert little presence in this discussion in general and its overt and brass banding in the virus paradigm of society.

We have the opportunity to be reality hackers when we *fully* grasp that the current version of reality is nothing more than a self serving mind virus projection. I am not here to ponder the difficulties of herding a bunch of wayward octopus (which is what the current discussion seems to be focused on- 'oh dear and hmmm, we need to work out what to do about all the dafties and how best to create a world that won't upset them too much, or is it better in the long run to break their brains and then do something?')-

You know what my answer to that is? WHO THE SPOCK CARES about out there???? Said with much love, if you lot want to get tangled up in trying to manage all the noise, the tangled bunch of coathangers the dominant planetary species is, to recycle through all the same old unanswerable questions that have been recycled through this forum, other forums, discussion circles, powerpoint presentations, drunken philosophical discussions and the like, I wholeheartedly support your Sui Generis right to go hard at it! I've set up a 'governing the madness' corner over here so that you can get whatever it is that you need whenever you hit burnout. I, on the other hand, will be over there- *points*- with my VR goggles on, doing what *I'm* up for, what I'm good at, and what I am interested in-

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/USArpKnfP20/0.jpg
virus and reality hacking.

That's the point of reaper's quote, at least to me- there is NO way a solution can be found from within the same mentality that created it. I'm absolutely, utterly and completely not interested in the old virus created paradigm that keeps regurgitating that solutions must be global, that the only way we can get anywhere interesting is through door A- everyone evolves, the heavens part the choirs sing and all that, or door B, those who have more than half a clue get to be the new and improved Cabal, the friendlier and more benevolent version, where all the sheeple live happily, their evolution comes in nicely layered, non-distressing and prepackaged, easily digestible form so that they're not disturbed enough to break out of the curve that some other Being has decided is proper and necessary for them.

I'm absolutely, utterly not interested in either of those doors- option A isn't going to happen anytime soon (it's been tried, it didn't work, too much difference in the Sui Generis signals, new platforms need to be created and they are of a nature that makes it impossible for those heavily embedded in the virus to handle the upgrade- remember what Morpheus said about unwilling minds?) and option B has been tried enough times for all concerned to know that there's no such thing as an *infinitely* benevolent Cabal- why? Because the Cabal ends up being affected, at some point or another, by the witless and lower vibration signal they're immersed in. Only a certain kind of Being likes to herd sheep, or octopus- anyone who does it for any length of time ends up developing a 'system' to help things along. And I know where *that* goes, enough to know that I'm not in the slightest bit impressed. At all. Nope.

So *sweeps doors A and B out the nearest dimensional exit*, what do y'all want to talk about now? Here's how I see it: individuals can either Get A Clue about how spocking powerful they just might actually BE, start opening up to the possibility that they might just actually be the Neo of their own world, start allowing the space within themselves to get some *really interesting stuff* going and generally begin pulsing out some signal upgrades that are going to result in the virus meeting its own particular brand of Dip-

http://images.wikia.com/disneyvillains/images/5/52/Screaming_doom.jpg

http://artoftheprank.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/laughriot-425.jpg

after which we can see what Interesting Things happen-

OR they can keep going on the same carousel that has been going for eons.

Hmm. Which do *I* personally pick, I wonder??

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As I was writing this post I got hit with an attack of the virus in the way that it likes to hit me- massive endocrine and adrenaline upheavals, resulting in revolting panic attacks. I had to get up and start moving physically and while I did I turned like Trinity falling through the air and looked at the virus, grinning. Here is a stream of consciousness dialogue, with descriptions, of what happened to me-

the virus hits, clawing at my brain and telling me that I'm just some broken, haggish and spocked in the head thing that has no business telling *any*one about being their own Neo- look at my broken body, look at my broken head, look at all the scars and fractures on and in me, that doesn't look like a Neo, that just looks like some circus freak that the abortion should have worked on-

(the hatred towards me, the vitriol and violence in the words, is something I've had to work through. the missed abortion thing is a tactic that it's come up with in the past two weeks, because I've been doing some things in my RL that have been flagging a major upgrade in my ability to both hack and aikido the virus- basically it's doing whatever it can to cripple me, using old points of fragility...)

I finally get up from the table because I can't think or type anymore because my throat is constricting (for the past year the virus has been manifesting in a semi-constant strangling feeling that can get brutal) and I'm starting to physically shake too much from the toxic overload in my system, the adrenaline makes my entire body shudder (one of the many reasons I quit smoking and cut my hair short- I hate setting my own hair on fire! it makes me look like an idiot) and I have to move. I go outside, using some physical meridian acupressure and tapping to transform the body distress, and the virus rushes up from behind and we fall off the side of the world-

and there's a new stillness in my mind, so I turn, like Trinity, while I'm falling and look the system right in the eye, no weapons in my hands at all, just a huge grin and it sees that I've seen it and I say 'I'm right. I absolutely, ovaries to bones to huge energetic Self, know that I'm right about this being my path, because you've shown up to try and stop me. Thank you so much for this, now I absolutely know that every time you show up I'm doing something you really don't like- YOU are my best guide, my most accurate compass-'

and it screams in confusion and disappears. I then see other side of the virus, the one that's doing all this so that I can evolve, grin hugely at me and whisper 'oh, well done, beloved! well done!'

Normally it can take up to half an hour for the shakes and the tachycardia to stop enough for me to function, particularly for me to type. I am pacing around outside in full blown panic mode and as soon as I turn and SEE it like that, in the moment that it screams and disappears, all my symptoms go as well. Zero shaking. Heart immediately quietens. My body just stops the process in its tracks. And I've walked back inside to sit back down here and write this out because I know this is the right path for me. The virus itself has just confirmed it, yet again.

I can't begin to describe the profound level of internal laughter and power I'm currently accessing. The timing is perfect.

http://scottburnham.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nerd_graffiti_00.jpg

I am not here to save anyone- if I'm a vessel for someone being able to pick up the frequency for themselves and getting somewhere, booyah! that's what I'm talking about! AND I'm not leveling them, they are leveling themselves up *because they're choosing to*. Simple. So I get to go on with the Vital Business of Being Awesomely My Self, because for me that's where my purpose and power is- if I focus on anything else, sh!t happens, always. I'm not here to help 'the world' with anything, I'm here to hold my frequency and signal in the face of the virus, to be a higher frequency transmitter regardless of what the virus brings on (and if you've been reading my stuff, you'll know that it's brought some pretty serious sh!t on in order to level me up) because I was born knowing that the external is the mirror of what I've got happening internally.

If an individual thinks that they have to manage the masses, then the masses are going to manifest to be managed. That's my idea of the fifth ring of hell, so I'll pass on that. I'm not going to sit here and talk about what I *don't* want, I'm going to sit here and talk about what I do want, and here it is-

I'm looking for other hackers, who are interested in hacking the virus on a really deep level. I'm out here in deep mode, dropping through the virus, not the myriads of expressions of it, so that the pieces of 'what does a virus free individual and group of individuals think/perceive/do/behave/experience/use as a base platform?' can be released into the Consciousness. To me it's absolutely no good to talk about 'transformation' when there's no talk about 'what does this transformation look like?' and all the old tools are trotted out as if they're going to make a new thing. They're not. New and mysterious looking tools produce new and mysterious looking things, that then become understood and finally commonplace. I'm one of those looking for the evolved concepts and tools. I am out here, grinning my cheesy grin, falling through the air backwards like Trinity with no guns, just interesting gadgets in my hand and a concerned looking virus pointing at them going 'ah, hmm, I haven't seen on of *those* before, what does it do?' -

and I press the button.

http://modchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/3084721949_633814c991-300x225.jpg

[jagman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FnJeL-wR3wY

[jagman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EQc2qCfj1Yg

[songsfortheotherkind]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good. *grins* If an idea is worth talking about, it's worth talking about a lot. :D


concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity.

Observation has demonstrated that repeated shocks of this magnitude are excellent petrie dishes for the virus; the Being contracts in a state of fear, preserving the viral programs within, so that at a time of future expansion the virus can restart through the fear and loss programs. It's all recursive, same old same old, trauma patterns, PTSD, shock patterns etc. The species is already running massive disaster survival trauma, culturally hidden in mythologies, religious texts etc- more shocks will only produce the same. Kind of redundant if the energy is pursuing evolution rather than devolution.


the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated.

The question that pops into my head from reading your question is this: who is the 'we' you are speaking of? I can only speak for my Self, and I'm totally up for more than civil- downright friendly to the point of sleeping in a great big puppy pile, actually- and my choices get to start and end with me. Who is the we? I can't base my actions and perspectives on the behaviours of the many or else frankly I wouldn't have taken the universe's 'no' as an answer and I'd have kept having a go with that shotgun at age 14 until the bastard worked. If my future depends on the Idiocracy and all its minions getting a clue then I may as well give it up now, because this isn't happening and it's not likely to, for the reasons I originally posted. My Sui Generis begins and ends with me, and I'm living this way because it's the only way that makes sense. I have enough experience with the amazing powers of creative force, energy, connection and co-creation, as well as a strong link to Other energies, to have a sense of enthusiasm for my own evolution and Something Interesting to happen. Do I have a clue what that might look like? Yep, I sure does! Can I give iron clad, written in triplicate, signed-by-a-god-and-witnessed-by-the-entire-of-humanity, seal of 'You Beaut No Worries' that this is what is *going* to happen? No spocking way. Do *I* need such assurances? Lolz.


ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality;

well, no you can't because then it's just external law, and Beings are kind of built to resist external law because external law has nothing whatsoever to do with sui generis, so mmm. External law= inbuilt mechanism for future rebellion.


a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer;

is it the *true* answer? *sideways eyed grin* I can come up with some much more interesting answers actually, all of which have the potential to be 'true', for a given definition of 'true', so what are we up for here?


but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation?

again I ask, who is this 'we'? Your particular Sui Generis approach may look like Tyler Durden's, and the next individual may be into heavy leaflet campaigns (think Lister and Rimmer in Terrorform , Red Dwarf). The creative force gets tangled up in 'we', because rather than following one's own path, the frustrating and useless exercise of trying to persuade others to one's own perspective begins and the creative energy gets drained away with the efficiency of the Dark Crystal-

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2680342845_46309532a8.jpg

which, personally, I'm thoroughly over. I've seen it happen on this forum- an excellent thread is posted, conversation is being had, co-creation begins and then someone comes in with an argument that derails the whole energy and renders it to nought. It's an interesting and effective tactic, employed over and over again to suck dry any creative juice that might be going somewhere interesting.

I would like to state categorically that I am not referring to your post here, which is entirely exploratory and done in a spirit of genuine engagement. (How do I know this? I am awesome and I just know these things). No, I'm talking about those communications that you can just sit back and look at, see the essence of virus slitherin around the background, coming in to feed and drain. So for me, engaging in the eye sporking unfun that is seeking consensus is something, for some odd reason, I don't actually engage in.


in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;)) *laughing* Not only was it a bullsh!t rationalisation, it was also a misunderstanding of the concept of anarchy, which actually means self rule, which oddly, is Sui Generis... :D

[songsfortheotherkind]

And while we're on the subject of integration...

Rimmer: Erm, I think we're all beginning to lose sight of the real issue here, which is "What are we going to call ourselves?" erm, and I think it comes down to a choice between `The League Against Salivating Monsters' or my own personal preference, which is the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society'. Erm, one drawback with that -the abbreviation is `CLITORIS'.

[songsfortheotherkind]

i probably wasn't making any sense in previous posts but you'll have to forgive me. truthfully, i just felt the need to attempt something serious as a penance for my recent frivolity.

you're apologising for frivolity? In the Pub? Great Flying Spaghetti Monster, are you ill, man? Perhaps you have had a severe knock to the noggin?

*gets comfy chair and a warm throw for Chinaski's obviously unwell form*

I'd hit you on the head with a pool noodle for making such an idiotic reference but it's obvious you're not your Self. I shall wait until you have thoroughly recovered, THEN hit you on the head with a pool noodle.

I'm such a supportive friend. :D Now quick, drink this, it's like having one's brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Oh, and-


Is it completely onanistic

I love your use of that word! *laughing* I love that I had to go and look it up, and then laughed at the meaning, when you first used it. :D

[songsfortheotherkind]

i'll admit Songs, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good.

I get that all the time, actually... *hands Chinaski a cigarette and sashays out the door*

[jagman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZMRDC4UDsnU

[songsfortheotherkind]

A Brief snapshot of my personal dance with the virus, at different times- you know, the bad hair and tragic clothing snapshots that you try to stick in the back of the album? Like that..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao-Sahfy7Hg&ob=av2e


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-QpZcOu-A&feature=branded

[songsfortheotherkind]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Kz6-akRNnVM/Tf4sp2M_foI/AAAAAAAAAE4/FjOUZgDBFQA/s1600/JackSally.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjeNKdhME54

[jagman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AqC_Gma221M

[davyj0nes]

hooray bar at the end of the universe. that is all.

[Carmen]

Hi, just popped in to touch base with this place. The whole Avalon forum reminds me of the crazy bar in Starwars, not just this place. I'm not complaining. It's just that their are so many species here that still come under the umbrella 'human'. Some I'd like to meet, others I definitely would not. I love that expression/word, Sui Generis, songs. I'm still pondering over that one.

Cheers and Love and Light and all that jazz!!

[songsfortheotherkind]

Waterbowl- my idea of foreplay-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWUtMsiKhmM&feature=related

because waterdance is just beautiful- as are the women who do it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=H2_kimp6W9I



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coApz2Zj820

[Cerridwen]

Songs, thank you so much for your post #703, I needed that reminder right now. I’ve been having a lot of difficulty lately remembering that I really am in control. I’ve been handing over my power to a lot of different people in my life and trying to figure out why I’m so spocken tired all of the time. I just keep forgetting that I am only in charge of me and that I need to stop feeling so responsible for others.

I’m with you, I’m not interested in either A or B either. I’d like to join the hacker group.

Im tired of listening to the same old lies and feeling the same old guilt trips that always work so well on me. I know that when I really focus, I can block it out and it feels amazing! That freedom from the virus is absolute bliss! But... then it tries a new, slightly modified version and bam! back to the same old guilt. It seems like I have the attention span of a gnat. I want to work on that.

Your posts are often a whisper in my ear that I appreciate. Thank you.

I’m fine with ClITORIS, but that might make Borden squirm again and he just got rid of his sunglasses.

[Mike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGqj3WbHDvA



mind virus...with Trevor Eve, Friday at 9, BBC 1.:)

[songsfortheotherkind]

hooray bar at the end of the universe. that is all.


*huge grin* Sex, alcohol, great food, gorgeous patrons of every make, model and inclination, music for every tastes, fantastic conversations, entertainment, wit, debauchery, multidimensional portals, an infinity drive, Tardis style space, throb-a-tron couches, couches that *don't* leave you dazed, sweaty, exhausted and in need of a cigarette, piles of cushions, the best library ever, the best film library ever, room for everyone, and all done to the motto of Sui Generis and do no harm (well, unless they ask really nicely)- hmmm, yep, I think we've got it all covered.

Is there anything we've forgotten? Calz, if you say anything toilet related I swear I shall pickle your little blue self in a jar and display you in the science museum.

[davyj0nes]

Song, who is sui generis????

[songsfortheotherkind]

Songsy, I asked you not to draw attention!

*looks over at you in surprise, drink suspended half way to my mouth*

You didn't want attention and you're sitting there in the Santa hat? Isn't that just a tad contradictory?


What are you doing?! You mean, apart from watching a Sith in a santa hat chucking a wobbler? Not a lot really, that's entertaining enough as it is...


Quick ... a song!

Alright! Here, have one! And in honour of your ancestral roots, too!

dBn2ux5vRHk


There, that should throw 'em off the scent. Phew.

I doubt it, it's a terrible song. Next time, you might want to be more specific, like "Quick!... a song that doesn't suck!"


Now be more careful, will you?!

Oi, you're the one waving your lightsabre around drunkenly, not me! Be careful with that thing, would you? People might get the wrong idea...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Song, who is sui generis????

Sui Generis is not a who, it's a concept. I posted some links in post #703 that discuss the concept more, if you're wondering what I'm talking about. It's a way of Being that, as it's more understood and embraced, makes the individual immune to the phenomenon I call the mind virus, the pervasive and toxic form of thinking and programming that has the population by the cerebral cortex.

I'm working on a piece about it, if I can stay out of other fascinating spaces long enough. *laughing*

[Mike]

lwZrAamm86Y



here ya go Borden. signature line lifted from this clip. enjoy.

[Mike]

b5lMLj76Zi4


this guy knew a thing or two about the mind virus, eh? seems fitting.

p.s. i know i'm a little clip happy at the moment guys; forgive me, it's just that i've finally discovered how to do this video thing, and it's new and exciting at the moment. please don't kick me outta the pub. it's just a phase...it'll fizzle out.

[songsfortheotherkind]

p.s. i'm speaking of the Dudley Moore Arthur too, not that ****#y version with Russell Brand.

Thank the nongods you clarified that- I can call off the terrible remake ninjas now...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29byfYNuuUM&feature=related

and because you're a sweetie and I'm in a good mood-

well, I'm not in a good mood, actually , because a day without skyping turns out to be rather pants, but I can BE in a good mood because I have the Choice, hurrah!-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmyJDM09fuQ

[Lita]

Just had to go find this song...

Ok so that embed didn't work from Youtube.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Talking about doing away with hierarchies, control structures, etc., is just an idea.

And therein lay part of the root of the problem as I saw it


What rises to the top sure ain't the cream.

What rises to the top is what the collective is willing to have there- like NIN says, '[they're] going to get what they deserve' because the collective are willing to have it done to them, the collective are willing to buy the lies (as long as the effects of the lies aren't pointed at them- and suddenly I have a sneaking suspicion that I've mixed up effect and affect recently, but that's my grammar OCD kicking in-) there's the willingness for *others* to bear the brunt of corruption, greed, pollution, religion, prejudice and the rest of it, no matter how fine a point the corruption might be, as long as it isn't pointed homeward.

It's not actually possible to externally do away with control structures and hierarchies, war and hate, while these things are rampaging through the individual at the whim of the viral programming. The Wetika sickness within the individual needs the cure, not those thus deeply infected lurching around like a zombie, criticising the munching of brains while holding one in each hand: it's the virus within that something can be about, and spread the cure through the signal that is the Being- I know it works, and others know too, so what is it exactly that is being awaited on I wonder- a god? Permission? A ticker tap parade and an oompah band?

The evolution begins internally, then manifests externally. It's why I am so determined to embrace the lessons in my Self, open my arms to my own terror, all my fears and craziness and prejudice and everything else, so that I can dissolve the dissonance and give my signal its pure form, putting that out into the world and watching the pure form behind the virus emerge to grin at me, the mask removed- and it's me, it's always been me, all along...

[songsfortheotherkind]

b5lMLj76Zi4
p.s. i know i'm a little clip happy at the moment guys; forgive me, it's just that i've finally discovered how to do this video thing, and it's new and exciting at the moment. please don't kick me outta the pub. it's just a phase...it'll fizzle out.

You definitely do not qualify as clip whore of the day, so feel free to post! I hope it doesn't fizzle out, the vids and things are great ways of learning about the mind of an individual. :)

[songsfortheotherkind]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/modernmilk/pub2.jpg

ah, I see you cleverly avoided the throb-a-tron couches. Wise choice when you're tired.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Why do you think I had to wear sunglasses so long? My eyes are warm and friendly in this picture. How dare you.

That is so Withnail. *laughing*


And I don't know why you would call me a cent, but perhaps it is an American currency related insult. It doesn't make much sense to me, but I will forgive you on the grounds that you are American and may not understand that there are in fact other countries in the world, and that they do not use cents or know insults derived from them. I'm sure it has something to do with either cheeseburgers or war.

This, this had me bent over the keyboard with laughter. Priceless. You rock my socks.


Any more than one Matrix movie is too many.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/matrix_revisited.png


I think that if the cabal crumbles in either fashion, we will see a world whose first order of business will be how to get all the toxic medicine, toxic food, toxic currency, etc back on-line. People's freedom of thought has been bred out of them. This where people are ... this is what people have got. To most people, any amount of global tumult and rearrangement will fail to cause tumult and rearrangement of the mind. It will only hit their panic buttons and they will immediately be looking for someone else to take charge. Disorganization will most likely result in exactly the same kind of re-organization. Just look at world history.

*nodding* Yup. That's how I see it too- the historical evidence to support this is all over the shop. I'm not interested in the mainstream leveling up, it's not in my What I'm Doing paradigm- the realm I'm wanting to inhabit needs my focus and I can't be doing that *and* paying attention to the noise. ><


One on one, person to person - I am not and couldn't be so apparently cynical. Of course not. I'm not a complete cent. But the human race is an idiot. If the UFOs are real, then their failure to communicate and land on the White House lawn and that sort of thing is probably something akin to us not opening the car doors when we drive through a safari park.

Yes. Funny that. Even the X-men films point out that humans suck with differences, even when the differences come from within the parameters of their own race, although we don't need mutant humans to demonstrate this- homo sapiens has a problem with someone of a different *skin* color, ffs- but of course it means the NTIs are Up To No Good because they're not interested in having a barrage of weapons thrown at them, let alone the hysteria, hate, mass upheaval and fear.


Your friendly neighbourhood misanthrope.

If you're a misanthrope, what does that make me, I wonder? *grinning*

[RunningDeer]

Dear songsfortheotherkind,
I learn of courageofadifferentkind from you. You are my hero for the day. :wave:
Going..going...gone........:car:

Hearts,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[songsfortheotherkind]

*staggers in dramatically, flails about and faceplants into one of the comfy blue couches*

Right! That's it! I'm staying in here until something interesting happens! I'm not going out there again.

*snuggles down with a Pratchett novel and an enormous mug of milk free hot chocolate, with tiny little vegan marshmallows floating about the top*

[songsfortheotherkind]

Dear songsfortheotherkind,
I learn of courageofadifferentkind from you. You are my hero for the day. :wave:
Going..going...gone........:car:

Hearts,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Hello sparkly woman :) I love your Sui Generis and how you live it so wholeheartedly, with such grace. I know we're very different creatures in many ways and here we are, grinning at one another and not giving a spock about the differences, it's the beauty that connects.

All this coalescence, gathering of hackers and mystics, the discordian misfits, all the shades of the spectrum leaning in together to co-create a different vision. It's working for me. :)

*hugs* and pointy eared laughter.

[RunningDeer]

Doesn't fit this thread.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Songs, thank you so much for your post #703, I needed that reminder right now. I’ve been having a lot of difficulty lately remembering that I really am in control. I’ve been handing over my power to a lot of different people in my life and trying to figure out why I’m so spocken tired all of the time. I just keep forgetting that I am only in charge of me and that I need to stop feeling so responsible for others.

That 'taking care of others' programming was jammed at me from the age of three, when I took on the business of protecting my younger sister from our mother. Another sister and by the time I was 7 I was caring for them, often left to figure out how to feed them with no food in the house, all the same story and how it is. It just expanded from there, until it felt like I was responsible for the entire gorram world- that's what sparked the obviously unsuccessful suicide attempt at 14.

( I say unsuccessful but that is in reality a lie. Yes, I'm really a zombie. How's that for acting skills? The internet is a boon for the undead, I can tell you...)

The reason I'm passionate about Sui Generis is that I've had to fight for my Self for decades; I've been on my knees so many times, all my focus going into remembering how to breathe, how to keep my heart beating, how to keep my head together enough to keep looking for all the scattered and shattered bits of me, the only light around me coming from the ember of my essence that simply refused to go out, one tiny little light to keep the darkness from swallowing me. I know what it's like not knowing how to avoid being swallowed up by others; I used to absolutely suck at it, struggle like a fly in a web around any connection because I couldn't keep the other individual out of my sacred internal space.

That's what I love about sui generis- to be fully practicing it, we must be honoring, loving and holding space for Self as much as any other Being. It doesn't work any other way and it's been an understanding that has given me the gift of finding my path back to my own universe, my own way of doing things. It *can* make me look like a cast iron cent to some, that's for sure, and I'm aware that there's nothing I can do to express to those individuals my Being in such a way that they'll change their mind- and I've learned to be utterly, totally ok with that. It *used* to get my spirit and wring it out like handwashing. I much prefer the way I am now, particularly as the virus doesn't. *big cheesy grin*


I’m with you, I’m not interested in either A or B either. I’d like to join the hacker group. The first rule of hacker club is- never talk about hacker club. :P

Actually, the best practice at the moment is watchful self hacking. Watch where you have been entrained to give away your power and expand into your energy. I've been mapping where I *physically* contract- I've gotten really good at observing when I start to contract my body down and pull away from whatever is happening and now I deliberately breathe back out through the constriction, focus on connecting to my essence and not whatever story is running in my head and causing me to shut off my flow of energy to my Self, which is actually what constriction and defense mechanisms are designed to do. I'm going to post that in a virus hacking thread now that talking with you about it has triggered my thought cascade thing (lol, the sign of Yet Another Epic Post! great sockpuppet nongods, they gasp, does this woman ever shut up??? I sail regally past with a slight rising of eyebrows and a 'what's the matter, finding it hard to keep up?' and smirk on my way) and I still want to write to you about it here. So I did. :D

Whenever the virus shows up, I know I'm doing something right because it's trying to stop me expanding back out. There are reasons for that. Now, I'm focusing every moment on keeping my expanded Self present and looking at how I can achieve that more. It's having mind blowing effects.


Im tired of listening to the same old lies and feeling the same old guilt trips that always work so well on me. I know that when I really focus, I can block it out and it feels amazing! That freedom from the virus is absolute bliss! But... then it tries a new, slightly modified version and bam! back to the same old guilt. It seems like I have the attention span of a gnat. I want to work on that. Welcome the virus now- treat it as an ally, one of those friends who seem to be in your life to teach you really hard and necessary lessons that you wouldn't get any other way, because the virus teaches us about itself and what to do about that through teaching us about *our* Self, being conscious, and what we *really* want to be doing. Being able to see the virus at work in us and turn it to our advantage- now that's a *true* ninja move. *flips overhead, Trinity style* I might have too crippled a body to do that in the physical realm at the moment but spock me, in the matrix, against the virus machines I fight like a bastard, sometimes a stealthy, double handed swords and shuriken wielding bastard at that, although that's not where the real power is- sometimes it's just way more cool to have a knock down fight than it is to go all zen on the machines.

Heh- Zen on the Machine. That amuses me highly.


Your posts are often a whisper in my ear that I appreciate. Thank you. You are most welcome- I know I've been out here for years doing this any way and I'm really, really enjoying opening up the energy to more. I have never believed in all this being a numbers game, as in global eschaton- nope, I'm up for Smaller and Way More Interesting Group Achieving Eschaton and then us all sloping off to do mischief, mayhem and dancing somewhere else.

http://crazyfairycoat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/fairycoat1.jpg?w=1024&h=682


I’m fine with CLITORIS,

*wicked gleam* I'm so glad to hear that, it appears we have many things in common :D


but that might make Borden squirm again and he just got rid of his sunglasses.

I have no issues at all with making Borden squirm, none whatsoever...

*toddles off with utterly innocent expression*

[songsfortheotherkind]

Hello songsfortheotherkind, your lessons helped coax out an understanding of ONE aspect in me, namely:


Energy Stalkers vs Light Warriors

What I’ve come to know is that what may appear as non-combative or a standing down
is just Self stepping out of the game of opposites.
Often this non-engagement springs forth
Ecstasy and Joy that I would have missed by any other choice.

This I had two experiences with yesterday- the first I described in my Epic Post Of the Day, the second didn't finish unfolding until late last night. Both times the lessons were about expansion into the fear. I'm going to write a post about that. So much writing I'm doing lately! More than in years. :D


But, let it be known:
I've stepped in, to shield the blows for others. Countless in number, now.
Today, I choose my battles, and will still be the shield with honor
should that occasion arise.

I know this space. I'm doing it in a much, much more effective way now- today I'm off for some physical therapy to help ameliorate some of the damage that stepping in as a physical shield as a child left me with and while it's awesomely spiffy to have found someone who can help me with the skull rearranging I've decided I'm going to play things much, much smarter these days. Fourth rule of hacking club- if I am forced to fight, hit them so hard the first time that they don't get up for awhile, so that more reasonable discussion can ensue.

[QUOTE] Side bar: An old friend of mine use to pick a fight over something as silly as peas. Until I realized that he was about to go on his 6 mile run and was looking to get “juiced up”. So, I offered him coffee instead of peas. Oddly, many individuals are also like this when it comes to intimacy and connection. :P Perhaps that's why there's so many coffee drinkers in the world.


Love to a Lovely Soul, WhiteCrowBlackDeer

black winged and pointy eared love back at you, although I do find it internally odd to be called 'lovely'- spiritual dysmorphia as well as physical, apparently. :)

[Mike]

i'll admit Songs, that when i first saw your post #662, i thought: God, that's long. but when i finished i thought: God, that was really good. *grins* If an idea is worth talking about, it's worth talking about a lot. :D


concerning hierarchies and control structures...though i vehemently oppose the way the world is arranged today, i often wonder how prudent it would be to suddenly dismantle this monstrosity.

Observation has demonstrated that repeated shocks of this magnitude are excellent petrie dishes for the virus; the Being contracts in a state of fear, preserving the viral programs within, so that at a time of future expansion the virus can restart through the fear and loss programs. It's all recursive, same old same old, trauma patterns, PTSD, shock patterns etc. The species is already running massive disaster survival trauma, culturally hidden in mythologies, religious texts etc- more shocks will only produce the same. Kind of redundant if the energy is pursuing evolution rather than devolution.


the question that keeps popping up in my head is: are we, at this stage, spiritually evolved enough to operate civilly without rights n wrongs being legislated.

The question that pops into my head from reading your question is this: who is the 'we' you are speaking of? I can only speak for my Self, and I'm totally up for more than civil- downright friendly to the point of sleeping in a great big puppy pile, actually- and my choices get to start and end with me. Who is the we? I can't base my actions and perspectives on the behaviours of the many or else frankly I wouldn't have taken the universe's 'no' as an answer and I'd have kept having a go with that shotgun at age 14 until the bastard worked. If my future depends on the Idiocracy and all its minions getting a clue then I may as well give it up now, because this isn't happening and it's not likely to, for the reasons I originally posted. My Sui Generis begins and ends with me, and I'm living this way because it's the only way that makes sense. I have enough experience with the amazing powers of creative force, energy, connection and co-creation, as well as a strong link to Other energies, to have a sense of enthusiasm for my own evolution and Something Interesting to happen. Do I have a clue what that might look like? Yep, I sure does! Can I give iron clad, written in triplicate, signed-by-a-god-and-witnessed-by-the-entire-of-humanity, seal of 'You Beaut No Worries' that this is what is *going* to happen? No spocking way. Do *I* need such assurances? Lolz.


ultimately, of course, you can't really legislate morality;

well, no you can't because then it's just external law, and Beings are kind of built to resist external law because external law has nothing whatsoever to do with sui generis, so mmm. External law= inbuilt mechanism for future rebellion.


a massive raising of the planetary consciousness is the true answer;

is it the *true* answer? *sideways eyed grin* I can come up with some much more interesting answers actually, all of which have the potential to be 'true', for a given definition of 'true', so what are we up for here?


but the $64,000 question is: do we wait till we're spiritually evolved enough(not sure what the critical mass would be here?) to do away with the control structures, hierarchies etc, or do we smash 'em and force a sort of sink or swim situation?

again I ask, who is this 'we'? Your particular Sui Generis approach may look like Tyler Durden's, and the next individual may be into heavy leaflet campaigns (think Lister and Rimmer in Terrorform , Red Dwarf). The creative force gets tangled up in 'we', because rather than following one's own path, the frustrating and useless exercise of trying to persuade others to one's own perspective begins and the creative energy gets drained away with the efficiency of the Dark Crystal-

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2680342845_46309532a8.jpg

which, personally, I'm thoroughly over. I've seen it happen on this forum- an excellent thread is posted, conversation is being had, co-creation begins and then someone comes in with an argument that derails the whole energy and renders it to nought. It's an interesting and effective tactic, employed over and over again to suck dry any creative juice that might be going somewhere interesting.

I would like to state categorically that I am not referring to your post here, which is entirely exploratory and done in a spirit of genuine engagement. (How do I know this? I am awesome and I just know these things). No, I'm talking about those communications that you can just sit back and look at, see the essence of virus slitherin around the background, coming in to feed and drain. So for me, engaging in the eye sporking unfun that is seeking consensus is something, for some odd reason, I don't actually engage in.


in other words: grow up, or else. because as bad as it is now, i do favor it over anarchy (oops, was that a bullsh!t rationalization?;)) *laughing* Not only was it a bullsh!t rationalisation, it was also a misunderstanding of the concept of anarchy, which actually means self rule, which oddly, is Sui Generis... :D


hey Songs,

i meant to give this a proper reply last night, but was chasing my 2 yr old niece around the house till about midnight, so...

please keep in mind that i don't always know what you're saying exactly; i'm damn near positive that this is more of an indictment on me than you, so please don't take offense:)

the *we* i'm referring to, i suppose, is humanity. though from what i understand, this label does not apply to you -- you being an off-worlder n all;). so if it appears i'm speaking on your behalf, please recall that i'm limiting my perspective to earth humans (he-he)

i s'pose you're right in a sense; i am a bit of a tyler durden; i *do* wanna hand out pamphlets and have everyone caught up to speed overnight, followed by a quick charge up the white house lawn and a takeover that favors free-energy, alternative medicine, the dismantling of the pharmaceutical cartels, and ufo disclosure. oh, and if i'm elected i'll also demand an immediate return of 'boo-berry' cereal. and if congress causes a fuss, i'll do it in some sneaky, roundabout way that involves the U.N., and also with clever semantics that foil any attempt at accusations of unconstitutionality.

i like your message immensely. you made a post somewhere regarding the wasting of one's time writing and discussing things we have no power over; it made an impression on me. though i'm not quite ready to concede that i'm powerless over some of these external manifestations of the 'virus'. i'm still prepared -- at least partly --to play 'hero' in my mind, beat the bad guys, and get the cute girl in the end (likely the mind virus at play?) this, however, does not represent all of me. i also agree that we should focus inward, cleansing the conditioning (virus) we've accrued throughout our lives, make the proper changes (hack the virus), and then allow our frequency to effect or not effect those around us.

your message (Sui Generis)is rather Buddhist in that sense, and it emphasizes personal responsibility over 'saving the worldism'; which i like in the abstract, but leaves me frustrated cause i want change *now*. though ironically,(or not) your way would likely produce results quicker. i know external 'results' likely mean little to you; but me, being a mere human n all, i'm anxious for change i can touch and see, not 'change i can believe in' as 'O'Bomber' (thanks for that one Dennis!) is so fond of saying.

ok, lets' see, have i said anything meaningful yet? (sigh) not really...

i stand by what i said regarding the massive raising of planetary consciousness being the true answer. replace *true* with *best* if that helps, Songs.;) or *most effective*, or *most desirable*. i think that's essentially what you're saying here, isn't it? you mentioned that you might have some more interesting ways of explaining that, and i don't doubt it. bring 'em on. let's hear it!

my problem is, my Sui Generis is a little schizophrenic. as i said, i fancy the idea of working on oneself and going inward, and have a deep knowing that this is what my spirit would ask of me if i was truly listening, but i also wanna knock on each n every door of each n every person in the world and yell "WAKE UP MOTHERF#CKERS!!!" until they either wake up or i collapse n die. you see, i'm stuck between "being" and "doing" -- i have a foot in both worlds at the moment, and i'm quite comfortable there.

[another bob]

Actually, the best practice at the moment is watchful self hacking. Watch where you have been entrained to give away your power and expand into your energy. I've been mapping where I *physically* contract- I've gotten really good at observing when I start to contract my body down and pull away from whatever is happening and now I deliberately breathe back out through the constriction, focus on connecting to my essence and not whatever story is running in my head and causing me to shut off my flow of energy to my Self, which is actually what constriction and defense mechanisms are designed to do.


That's it, that's the deal -- you got it, Sister, that's the way to heal!


:yo:

[Normalguy31]

Before I reply to individual posts, I'd like to make this observation- there seems to be a general inclination to looking at the issue from a 'the solution lies out there *points to outside one's own energy field* through 'them' doing/being/getting- '; that's the exact opposite of what I was talking about.

Here's the thing- my future, considering the kind of Being I am, is looking utterly Spocked if I'm dependent on whatever the spock the masses are doing. Utterly spocked! I'm not streets ahead of where the masses are in terms of perspective, awareness of the virus and what to do about it, self hacking and the ilk, I'm not even on the same map because we're not in the same country, on the same continent, or even on the same planet in terms of thinking, experience, Sight, what have you. I have no intention of having the same fate as Thomas Jerome Newton, thanks very much- I have recently had some profound reminders that energy is powerful, dismisses distance and barrier, and has the ability to definitely affect the physical: I'm not accepting the limited version of 'how things work' that is being pimped by the virus, creeping its insidious and covert little presence in this discussion in general and its overt and brass banding in the virus paradigm of society.

We have the opportunity to be reality hackers when we *fully* grasp that the current version of reality is nothing more than a self serving mind virus projection. I am not here to ponder the difficulties of herding a bunch of wayward octopus (which is what the current discussion seems to be focused on- 'oh dear and hmmm, we need to work out what to do about all the dafties and how best to create a world that won't upset them too much, or is it better in the long run to break their brains and then do something?')-

You know what my answer to that is? WHO THE SPOCK CARES about out there???? Said with much love, if you lot want to get tangled up in trying to manage all the noise, the tangled bunch of coathangers the dominant planetary species is, to recycle through all the same old unanswerable questions that have been recycled through this forum, other forums, discussion circles, powerpoint presentations, drunken philosophical discussions and the like, I wholeheartedly support your Sui Generis right to go hard at it! I've set up a 'governing the madness' corner over here so that you can get whatever it is that you need whenever you hit burnout. I, on the other hand, will be over there- *points*- with my VR goggles on, doing what *I'm* up for, what I'm good at, and what I am interested in-

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/USArpKnfP20/0.jpg
virus and reality hacking.

That's the point of reaper's quote, at least to me- there is NO way a solution can be found from within the same mentality that created it. I'm absolutely, utterly and completely not interested in the old virus created paradigm that keeps regurgitating that solutions must be global, that the only way we can get anywhere interesting is through door A- everyone evolves, the heavens part the choirs sing and all that, or door B, those who have more than half a clue get to be the new and improved Cabal, the friendlier and more benevolent version, where all the sheeple live happily, their evolution comes in nicely layered, non-distressing and prepackaged, easily digestible form so that they're not disturbed enough to break out of the curve that some other Being has decided is proper and necessary for them.

I'm absolutely, utterly not interested in either of those doors- option A isn't going to happen anytime soon (it's been tried, it didn't work, too much difference in the Sui Generis signals, new platforms need to be created and they are of a nature that makes it impossible for those heavily embedded in the virus to handle the upgrade- remember what Morpheus said about unwilling minds?) and option B has been tried enough times for all concerned to know that there's no such thing as an *infinitely* benevolent Cabal- why? Because the Cabal ends up being affected, at some point or another, by the witless and lower vibration signal they're immersed in. Only a certain kind of Being likes to herd sheep, or octopus- anyone who does it for any length of time ends up developing a 'system' to help things along. And I know where *that* goes, enough to know that I'm not in the slightest bit impressed. At all. Nope.

So *sweeps doors A and B out the nearest dimensional exit*, what do y'all want to talk about now? Here's how I see it: individuals can either Get A Clue about how spocking powerful they just might actually BE, start opening up to the possibility that they might just actually be the Neo of their own world, start allowing the space within themselves to get some *really interesting stuff* going and generally begin pulsing out some signal upgrades that are going to result in the virus meeting its own particular brand of Dip-

http://images.wikia.com/disneyvillains/images/5/52/Screaming_doom.jpg

http://artoftheprank.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/laughriot-425.jpg

after which we can see what Interesting Things happen-

OR they can keep going on the same carousel that has been going for eons.

Hmm. Which do *I* personally pick, I wonder??

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As I was writing this post I got hit with an attack of the virus in the way that it likes to hit me- massive endocrine and adrenaline upheavals, resulting in revolting panic attacks. I had to get up and start moving physically and while I did I turned like Trinity falling through the air and looked at the virus, grinning. Here is a stream of consciousness dialogue, with descriptions, of what happened to me-

the virus hits, clawing at my brain and telling me that I'm just some broken, haggish and spocked in the head thing that has no business telling *any*one about being their own Neo- look at my broken body, look at my broken head, look at all the scars and fractures on and in me, that doesn't look like a Neo, that just looks like some circus freak that the abortion should have worked on-

(the hatred towards me, the vitriol and violence in the words, is something I've had to work through. the missed abortion thing is a tactic that it's come up with in the past two weeks, because I've been doing some things in my RL that have been flagging a major upgrade in my ability to both hack and aikido the virus- basically it's doing whatever it can to cripple me, using old points of fragility...)

I finally get up from the table because I can't think or type anymore because my throat is constricting (for the past year the virus has been manifesting in a semi-constant strangling feeling that can get brutal) and I'm starting to physically shake too much from the toxic overload in my system, the adrenaline makes my entire body shudder (one of the many reasons I quit smoking and cut my hair short- I hate setting my own hair on fire! it makes me look like an idiot) and I have to move. I go outside, using some physical meridian acupressure and tapping to transform the body distress, and the virus rushes up from behind and we fall off the side of the world-

and there's a new stillness in my mind, so I turn, like Trinity, while I'm falling and look the system right in the eye, no weapons in my hands at all, just a huge grin and it sees that I've seen it and I say 'I'm right. I absolutely, ovaries to bones to huge energetic Self, know that I'm right about this being my path, because you've shown up to try and stop me. Thank you so much for this, now I absolutely know that every time you show up I'm doing something you really don't like- YOU are my best guide, my most accurate compass-'

and it screams in confusion and disappears. I then see other side of the virus, the one that's doing all this so that I can evolve, grin hugely at me and whisper 'oh, well done, beloved! well done!'

Normally it can take up to half an hour for the shakes and the tachycardia to stop enough for me to function, particularly for me to type. I am pacing around outside in full blown panic mode and as soon as I turn and SEE it like that, in the moment that it screams and disappears, all my symptoms go as well. Zero shaking. Heart immediately quietens. My body just stops the process in its tracks. And I've walked back inside to sit back down here and write this out because I know this is the right path for me. The virus itself has just confirmed it, yet again.

I can't begin to describe the profound level of internal laughter and power I'm currently accessing. The timing is perfect.

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I am not here to save anyone- if I'm a vessel for someone being able to pick up the frequency for themselves and getting somewhere, booyah! that's what I'm talking about! AND I'm not leveling them, they are leveling themselves up *because they're choosing to*. Simple. So I get to go on with the Vital Business of Being Awesomely My Self, because for me that's where my purpose and power is- if I focus on anything else, sh!t happens, always. I'm not here to help 'the world' with anything, I'm here to hold my frequency and signal in the face of the virus, to be a higher frequency transmitter regardless of what the virus brings on (and if you've been reading my stuff, you'll know that it's brought some pretty serious sh!t on in order to level me up) because I was born knowing that the external is the mirror of what I've got happening internally.

If an individual thinks that they have to manage the masses, then the masses are going to manifest to be managed. That's my idea of the fifth ring of hell, so I'll pass on that. I'm not going to sit here and talk about what I *don't* want, I'm going to sit here and talk about what I do want, and here it is-

I'm looking for other hackers, who are interested in hacking the virus on a really deep level. I'm out here in deep mode, dropping through the virus, not the myriads of expressions of it, so that the pieces of 'what does a virus free individual and group of individuals think/perceive/do/behave/experience/use as a base platform?' can be released into the Consciousness. To me it's absolutely no good to talk about 'transformation' when there's no talk about 'what does this transformation look like?' and all the old tools are trotted out as if they're going to make a new thing. They're not. New and mysterious looking tools produce new and mysterious looking things, that then become understood and finally commonplace. I'm one of those looking for the evolved concepts and tools. I am out here, grinning my cheesy grin, falling through the air backwards like Trinity with no guns, just interesting gadgets in my hand and a concerned looking virus pointing at them going 'ah, hmm, I haven't seen on of *those* before, what does it do?' -

and I press the button.

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My god....that was.....that was f*cking beautiful. Round of tequila for the pub on me for that one. I feel like I need a cigarette after that.

[Mike]

9F_K0qiUjUc


i've been listening to this song over n over again for the past 2 hours. i can't stop. please, somebody help me.

[RunningDeer]

Love to a Lovely Soul, songsforanotherkind


black winged and pointy eared love back at you, although I do find it internally odd to be called 'lovely'- spiritual dysmorphia as well as physical, apparently.

I did pull out my dictionary because at times I am challenged in the written message. So I looked up your word: "dysmorphia" - deformity or abnormality in the shape or size of a specified part of the body. Me thinkith I need a larger dictionary.

So rather than to misinterpret. I'll say that these eyes only see soul and light from others, not physical. So for "songsforanotherkind" I see only Great Soul Light.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

[Normalguy31]

9F_K0qiUjUc


i've been listening to this song over n over again for the past 2 hours. i can't stop. please, somebody help me.

It's going to be ok. You just need something a little more upbeat

tG6P2rBU-ho

And some of this mentioned in the song. It can only bring good things....most of the time

[Mike]

phew. thanks Noraml Guy. it did the trick.

in fact, in my air band fantasy my talents are so great, my gifts so profound, that i'm able to play lead guitar, drums, and do lead vocals all at once. i had fun playing sax *and* guitar here at the same time. thanks again.

[Normalguy31]

I do what I can. This song breaks my mind virus deal thing ALL the time. It may be avoidance, but hell when I'm drinking, hacking is the last thing on my mind.

Usually It's TEQUILA!!! BUM BUNNA NANNA NA NA, BUM BUNNA NANNA BUM

[jagman]

Frederic Chopin - Nocturne In E Flat Major, Op.9 No.2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5ZUw78FXpG4

[Cerridwen]

Songs, thank you so much for your post #703, I needed that reminder right now. I’ve been having a lot of difficulty lately remembering that I really am in control. I’ve been handing over my power to a lot of different people in my life and trying to figure out why I’m so spocken tired all of the time. I just keep forgetting that I am only in charge of me and that I need to stop feeling so responsible for others.

That 'taking care of others' programming was jammed at me from the age of three, when I took on the business of protecting my younger sister from our mother. Another sister and by the time I was 7 I was caring for them, often left to figure out how to feed them with no food in the house, all the same story and how it is. It just expanded from there, until it felt like I was responsible for the entire gorram world- that's what sparked the obviously unsuccessful suicide attempt at 14.

I'm very glad you were unsuccessful. ((Hugs))

After my father left when I was six, I became the grown up in the house. My mom just kinda crawled up into herself and only came out to do the basics. Thank goodness she was able to get and keep a job so we at least had a roof over our heads. All of the utilities were be on a type of rotation as to which one wouldn't get paid and would be turned off on us. When the water was turned off that ment we'd have to go to the gas station to use the bathroom and no showers before school. When the gas went that ment no heater or hot water and we couldn't use the stove. (This was before microwaves of course.) I didn't mind the electricity being out as much, I always loved doing everything by candlelight and my alarm clock had batteries so I wouldn't be late for school. When the phone was turned off I'd get scared. I was always worried something bad would happen and I wouldn't be able to call for help. My little brother and I ate cereal for dinner a lot, sometimes we even had milk to pour on it. I got a job when I was 15 and took over paying most of these bills for her.


The reason I'm passionate about Sui Generis is that I've had to fight for my Self for decades; I've been on my knees so many times, all my focus going into remembering how to breathe, how to keep my heart beating, how to keep my head together enough to keep looking for all the scattered and shattered bits of me, the only light around me coming from the ember of my essence that simply refused to go out, one tiny little light to keep the darkness from swallowing me. I know what it's like not knowing how to avoid being swallowed up by others; I used to absolutely suck at it, struggle like a fly in a web around any connection because I couldn't keep the other individual out of my sacred internal space.

That's what I love about sui generis- to be fully practicing it, we must be honoring, loving and holding space for Self as much as any other Being. It doesn't work any other way and it's been an understanding that has given me the gift of finding my path back to my own universe, my own way of doing things. It *can* make me look like a cast iron cent to some, that's for sure, and I'm aware that there's nothing I can do to express to those individuals my Being in such a way that they'll change their mind- and I've learned to be utterly, totally ok with that. It *used* to get my spirit and wring it out like handwashing. I much prefer the way I am now, particularly as the virus doesn't. *big cheesy grin*

It took my almost having a nervous breakdown about ten years ago to start behaving more like a cent toward certain persons and keep my own sanity. Some days it comes more naturally and easily than others.

My mom or brother would love to come to me with their drama and ask for help. So I would tell them what they should do to solve the problem and pat myself on the back for helping them. Then a week later find out that they did nothing I said and the issue has become even worse. One day a therapist told me to get off my white horse and stop trying to save everyone because they're not listening to a word I say anyway. That was liberating! After that light bulb went on I decided to keep the two of them at a distance and it has helped me greatly. I don't have a nice touchy feely relationship with either one of them, and it makes me sad, but at least I'm healthier for it.




I’m with you, I’m not interested in either A or B either. I’d like to join the hacker group. The first rule of hacker club is- never talk about hacker club. :P

Got it! I love that movie and I even make and sell damn good handmade soap myself.



Actually, the best practice at the moment is watchful self hacking. Watch where you have been entrained to give away your power and expand into your energy. I've been mapping where I *physically* contract- I've gotten really good at observing when I start to contract my body down and pull away from whatever is happening and now I deliberately breathe back out through the constriction, focus on connecting to my essence and not whatever story is running in my head and causing me to shut off my flow of energy to my Self, which is actually what constriction and defense mechanisms are designed to do. I'm going to post that in a virus hacking thread now that talking with you about it has triggered my thought cascade thing (lol, the sign of Yet Another Epic Post! great sockpuppet nongods, they gasp, does this woman ever shut up??? I sail regally past with a slight rising of eyebrows and a 'what's the matter, finding it hard to keep up?' and smirk on my way) and I still want to write to you about it here. So I did. :D

Whenever the virus shows up, I know I'm doing something right because it's trying to stop me expanding back out. There are reasons for that. Now, I'm focusing every moment on keeping my expanded Self present and looking at how I can achieve that more. It's having mind blowing effects.

[QUOTE] Im tired of listening to the same old lies and feeling the same old guilt trips that always work so well on me. I know that when I really focus, I can block it out and it feels amazing! That freedom from the virus is absolute bliss! But... then it tries a new, slightly modified version and bam! back to the same old guilt. It seems like I have the attention span of a gnat. I want to work on that. Welcome the virus now- treat it as an ally, one of those friends who seem to be in your life to teach you really hard and necessary lessons that you wouldn't get any other way, because the virus teaches us about itself and what to do about that through teaching us about *our* Self, being conscious, and what we *really* want to be doing. Being able to see the virus at work in us and turn it to our advantage- now that's a *true* ninja move. *flips overhead, Trinity style* I might have too crippled a body to do that in the physical realm at the moment but spock me, in the matrix, against the virus machines I fight like a bastard, sometimes a stealthy, double handed swords and shuriken wielding bastard at that, although that's not where the real power is- sometimes it's just way more cool to have a knock down fight than it is to go all zen on the machines.


This is all great stuff here, thank you. I think I'm going to have to put up some stick notes around the house and in the car to remind myself. (I was totally serious about the attention span of a gnat stuff!)

The quote I bolded really hit home for me and another light bulb just went off. WooHoo!


Heh- Zen on the Machine. That amuses me highly.


Your posts are often a whisper in my ear that I appreciate. Thank you. You are most welcome- I know I've been out here for years doing this any way and I'm really, really enjoying opening up the energy to more. I have never believed in all this being a numbers game, as in global eschaton- nope, I'm up for Smaller and Way More Interesting Group Achieving Eschaton and then us all sloping off to do mischief, mayhem and dancing somewhere else.

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I’m fine with CLITORIS,

*wicked gleam* I'm so glad to hear that, it appears we have many things in common :D


but that might make Borden squirm again and he just got rid of his sunglasses.

I have no issues at all with making Borden squirm, none whatsoever...

*toddles off with utterly innocent expression*

*Nods her head and giggles as she watches Songs toddle off*

[Calz]

Love to a Lovely Soul, songsforanotherkind


black winged and pointy eared love back at you, although I do find it internally odd to be called 'lovely'- spiritual dysmorphia as well as physical, apparently.

I did pull out my dictionary because at times I am challenged in the written message. So I looked up your word: "dysmorphia" - deformity or abnormality in the shape or size of a specified part of the body. Me thinkith I need a larger dictionary.

So rather than to misinterpret. I'll say that these eyes only see soul and light from others, not physical. So for "songsforanotherkind" I see only Great Soul Light.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

Whatz dis???

Dictionary???

We don' need no stinkin' dictionary!!! :nono:

dysmorphia = dys more phor MEEEEA!!!


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[Calz]

I, joyfully, have no idea of the mating habits of smurfs. I would like to keep it that way. And I thought in smurfland there was only *one* girl, so I thought wife wasn't the preferred way to go...




How the smurf did I get so far behind ... seems like only yesterday ... change timelines have we???

Picked up a few more Patrons at the Pub have we???

Posts jumping are they??? :bolt:


Well ... hmmm ... yes.

Smurfland only has one official female ... Smurfette of course.

But ... being PapaSmurf with assistance from Brainy Smurf who has detailed knowledge of genetics has it's ... ummm ... advantages it does. :nod:


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[songsfortheotherkind]

Whatz dis???

Dictionary???

We don' need no stinkin' dictionary!!! :nono:

dysmorphia = dys more phor MEEEEA!!!


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15180&d=1333333929

*laughing* awesome sauce for you, there is!