Mental Illness

[Celine]

I have found myself today, a little at a loss for words. Someone whom i felt understood the meaning of Light ...or being awakened, has shown that they have no compassion whatsoever for Mental illnesses present in people in their surroundings.

Unlike physical ailments...like a hole in the gut... Mental illness is not always so easily visible or acknowledged...

In todays world of antidepressants, ritalin etc, we perhaps forget the people , the ones diagnosed with a sometimes deadly disease and how perhaps they may require some extra patience of compassion for the ones around them.

There are many schools of thought out there... change of diet.... nutrients... yoga... mediation...

There is a place in vancouver, a private clinic...that offers a 100% cure rate for anorexia.. 100%!!!!....there is a waiting list of over 3 years..

The cure??

100% love and care 24/7

Each patient has 7 employees assigned to them..they care for them...and in a matter of months the patients are cured.


Love...and Light... are part of the same parcel...

[kcw_one]

I hear you Celine. Earlier on in my life I wound up working as a nurses aide in a couple of psych hospitals in Alberta. At the time I was seriously conflicted about being part of a "treatment" system that I saw as being so damaging to people. Despite my internal struggle, I was given the opportunity to speak with people who were mentally ill and get a sense for myself what was going on with them.

I don't think I have any insights to offer that would be of any use to anyone else other than to say that most of us are mentally ill in some way or another, it is just that those who are labelled with a "mental illness" are ones whose issues present such a significant problem as to prevent them from being able to cope with their reality in ways that society finds acceptable.

I feel that the natural state of being for us is one of joy and happiness. We are meant to feel good. If we do not feel good, then it is because WE are preventing it through the thoughts we choose and he experinces we attract as a result. Many people disagree with me on that. It is much easier to blame one's unhappiness or "issues" on a job, parent, or significant other.

Regardless of my personal view point, what you said Celine about the curing of the eating disorders through pure unadulterated TLC, THAT IS THE ANSWER RIGHT THERE! Our entire culture on the whole is so desperately in need of more love. Not just he narrow aspects we are taught to focus on like "I love my car".

[Celine]

i wholeheartedly agree...

it is so taboo to say , i love you.

or to touch each other.

But sometimes...

i walk by some strangers i can can literally hear there body SCREAMING for touch...a hug, a kiss..holding a hand...or just laying in someones arms.

So ..healing...dont you think?

[kcw_one]

Love is so totally the answer. I see how many who are interested in the enlightenment subject totally miss that one. So focused on the ugliness and scary events that they fail to see that we have won when we can reach a state of being completely in love with life and the universe. I understand that that statement may come off as kind of flakey and dreamy, but I am certain that this is what it is all about. The realization that we all are part of the same Source of non-physical energy, that we are indeed all ONE. Knowing that and feeling it to the ends if your fingertips makes it so much easier to love everyone else regardless of condition and without judgement. The first step, however, is the most difficult -- learning to love yourself.

[HORIZONS]

i wholeheartedly agree...

it is so taboo to say , i love you.

or to touch each other.

But sometimes...

i walk by some strangers i can can literally hear there body SCREAMING for touch...a hug, a kiss..holding a hand...or just laying in someones arms.

So ..healing...dont you think?

I think so! -(me screaming) Please touch me, hug me, hold me in your arms - a kiss of affection would be OK too -- but no that is not OK, it is considered sexually incorrect to do so, we now have policy to prove this is so. So we are isolated - islands unto ourselves, nevermore to know the true warmth of the expressed love of another individual.

[illuminate]

It makes me very sad to read this... someone who lacks compassion for the mentally ill,
but I also know he/she is not alone. I find it sad because each and every one of us suffers
from mental illness...

Every living being on this planet and even some plants and animals suffer from mental
inflictions at one time or another, in all different stages and in varying degrees.

So the people who CHOOSE to sit in judgment rather than acceptance are only fooling themselves...
they simply have neglected to look in the mirror. This is often the case with EVERY issue known to man.
It is also referred to as denial.

Besides... 'Judging' is so 1999... they are simply out of style :P

Depression is considered a mental illness... so please, tell me who out there has never
been able to relate to this simple definition of depression?

Depression: not being able to do, what you want to do, when you want to do it.

There is never anything wrong with being you.

I LOVE YOU!
:love:

[Pan]

But sometimes...

i walk by some strangers i can can literally hear there body SCREAMING for touch...a hug, a kiss..holding a hand...or just laying in someones arms.


I very much agree with this myself.

Its true, it is about love if you ask me.
To hurt someone else is to hurt yourself and so on.

[Celine]

kcw_one said....

"So focused on the ugliness and scary events that they fail to see that we have won when we can reach a state of being completely in love with life and the universe. I understand that that statement may come off as kind of flakey and dreamy, but I am certain that this is what it is all about."

Many think i am a ...flirt.. a flake... or dreamy (when they want to be kind lol)....

i do not care..

*smiles warmly *

i love them, i want to kiss them, i want to hold them.


HORIZONS said...

"So we are isolated - islands unto ourselves, nevermore to know the true warmth of the expressed love of another individual."

*she extends her hand and looks at you with a big smile and says...* No you are not! I love you.


Illuminate said...

" It makes me very sad to read this..."

i agree , i feel sad too...yet a warmth is growing as Avalonians share their feelings. Can you feel it? ...

love,
celine

[greybeard]

By coincidence I had posted this on Spiritual Diary.
There are Attitudinal Healing centers in USA.
You could do a Google.
My main source of Spiritual information Dr David Hawkins is a Psychiatrist swears by this way of healing mental illness and all other ailments.
He also states that very often there is a lack of seratonin in the brain, herbal Seratone helps greatly, he also states that a excess of sugar can cause metal dysfunction.
I agree with Celine that love expressed through touch is vital to our well being.
During the war very young children were evacuated to Wales, they were well fed but they grew ill, professioal nannies were recruited, they cuddled the children and loved them, their health improved dramatically.
Chris
Namaste

The 12 Principles of Attitudinal Healing ~ by Dr. Gerald Jampolsky based on A Course In Miracles
~ a way to see differently ~ not a quick fix but a process to apply to any situation that ultimately brings peace of mind.

1 The essence of our being is love.
2 Health is inner peace. Healing is letting go of fear.
3 Giving and receiving are the same.
4 We can let go of the past and of the future.
5 Now is the only time there is and each instant is for giving.
6 We can learn to love ourselves and others by forgiving rather than judging.
7 We can become love-finders rather than fault-finders.
8 We can choose and direct ourselves to be peaceful inside
regardless of what is happening outside.
9 We are students and teachers to each other.
10 We can focus on the whole of life rather than the fragments.
11 Since love is eternal, death need not be viewed as fearful.
12 We can always perceive ourselves and others as either extending love
or giving a call for help.

[greybeard]

ps yes Celine
The love is growing here.
I love you too.
You make a difference.
Chris

[kcw_one]

ps yes Celine
The love is growing here.
I love you too.
You make a difference.
Chris

YES! More of this please!

The ONLY way to solve any of the problems we face, either individually or collectively is from a place of love. It really is that simple.

I am so grateful to you that choose to spread love and positivity through this forum. I love you all!

[Heartsong]

Mental Illness. It's been a large part of my life. I was twenty-eight before I was advised to get help. I had thought I was deficient in character, inadequate, not strong enough, not fearless enough, not worthy, unable to relate to others to a large degree.

I was too bright, too sensitive, too withdrawn yet I didn't know that others didn't live as I did. Mine was a world of terror, relationships without trust. This was truth to me. This was how the world worked. My task, as was anyone's in my way of thinking, was to simply survive.

I'm 60 now. My perspective has improved. I can believe in myself (although I'm still not sure about others.) I worked until I retired. I have been married to the same fella since I was 21. I have a son in law school. I have a good life. Many a time I thought I would never make it -- didn't even know what "it" was, or why "it" was important.

Mental health is not only about feeling, the structure of a person's reality is involved. The foundation of what a person knows to be true is involved. It's part of my life's journey and I can accept and bless it as that.
Heartsong

[Celine]

Thank you chris heart!

[Ammit]

Well i actually work with dementia, autism and mental health behavoural problems. many people do not understand that WE ALL could one day be that way.
I see family just dump their so called loved ones and run, why, because they cannot cope with the day to day needs of the person dumped.
I love my residents, I often just sit and chat to them knowing that not much is sinking in, but, sometimes I see a light flicker in their eyes and know, someone , a person does reside in that head somewhere.......

Blessings

Ammit

[Rimbaud]

Greybeard..I wish you'd lived down my street when a young lad stabbed his own eyes out with a knife about fifteen years ago...We all tried to talk him out of self-harming himself at the time...I don't know you that much..but I bet you are a very calming guy.

Cheers

Rimbaud

[Celine]

You probably know someone with a mental health or substance use problem

* 1 person in 5 in Canada (over 6 million people) will have a mental health problem during their lifetime.
* 1 in 7 Canadians aged 15 and older (about 3.5 million people) have alcohol-related problems; 1 in 20 (about 1.5 million) have cannabis-related concerns; and some have problems with cocaine, speed, ecstasy (and other hallucinogens), heroin and other illegal drugs.
* Mental health and substance use problems affect people of all ages, education and income levels, religions, cultures and types of jobs.

So it’s likely that you or a family member or friend will have a substance use or mental health problem at some time.
Why people develop mental health and substance use problems

There are many reasons why people develop mental health and substance use problems:

* Some are genetic or biological—people are born with them.
* Some come from people’s experiences—such as stressful situations in their childhood; at school or work; or in places where they lived with injustice, violence or war.
* And sometimes we simply don’t know why a problem has developed.

Regardless of why and how they develop, mental health and substance use problems are health problems—just like cancer, arthritis, diabetes and heart attacks.

So why are people with substance use and mental health problems looked upon differently?
Let’s talk about stigma

Stigma refers to negative attitudes (prejudice) and negative behaviour (discrimination) toward people with substance use and mental health problems.

Stigma includes:

* having fixed ideas and judgments—such as thinking that people with substance use and mental health problems are not normal or not like us; that they caused their own problems; or that they can simply get over their problems if they want to
* fearing and avoiding what we don’t understand—such as excluding people with substance use and mental health problems from regular parts of life (for example, from having a job or a safe place to live).

We all have attitudes and judgments that affect how we think about and behave toward others. When we talk about attitudes and behaviour toward others based on their gender, sexual orientation, culture, race or religion, we use the words prejudice and discrimination.

So let’s call stigma what it really is.

[Ammit]

Hi Celine

Nice write up, but , you would not believe the amount of people who shun us as a care team, when we do something simple like shop for food...
We get targetted for abuse ( verbal and yes sometimes physical) and if we wish to keep our CRB have to accept the fact that most of the people
who see these suffering folk cannot accept them, full stop...

it is a shame as most of them have skills far beyond what we would call normal in everyday folk. And the love that eminates from these poor souls
often leaves me wondering if in fact they are the normal ones and we are the dissabled!!!

blessings

Ammit

[starninja]

I wholeheartedly agree...

it is so taboo to say , i love you.

or to touch each other.

But sometimes...

i walk by some strangers i can can literally hear there body SCREAMING for touch...a hug, a kiss..holding a hand...or just laying in someones arms.

So ..healing...dont you think?

Virginia Satir, a famous american psychologist, said that if we want to be emotionally healthy we need 4-12 hugs a day!

Love and care. Absolutely!


I have a very strong opinion about psychiatry. It is a very powerful tool of mind control. I post a thought provoking videos that explain what is really going on behind the curtain.




http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=872464051371148702#

:wub:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-iYngr6N60

[Tuza]

Can I ask that you all fly to Melbourne and stand in line, because I think I am way behind in my hug count. Thank you advance.

[starninja]

This BBC documentary movie further explains how they totally manipulate and control our life by introducing psychotherapy. It also reveals how CIA and politicians, as well as big business utilized psychology to create people who conform to society rules. The goal is to kill individuality, passions, and inner desires.

Part 1 of 6


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9RfanOEpA0


:wub:

[Caren]

Hello Ammit,
You are a very compassionate individual and I admire you for caring for those who are so very vulnerable,
and needy. Thank you for what you do each day and all the love and respect you show to others. You make
the world a better place.
Blessings,
caren

[BrianEn]

I have had my own battles with mental illness. It wasn't easy especially in the beginning when I was still finding my feet. There were lots of people who had opinions on my dilema. Part of the problem was that I hid it so well from others. I have concurrent disorders that can make my life a living hell if I don't take my meds. Many people seemed to be more concerned about the side-effects of the meds. I wasn't worried about those. The emomtional pain of living in the disease was a much worse prspect.
Now 15 years later, having gone on off the meds a number times I finally come to place of acceptance. I am much more capable of living now then I was then. I do far less venting because my feelings are much more managable.

[starninja]

Can I ask that you all fly to Melbourne and stand in line, because I think I am way behind in my hug count. Thank you advance.

Tuza, I don't think that it is a good idea. You have winter.:lol:

What about this?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDAfB2jAuYw&feature=related

:wub:

[Tuza]

We need some souls like that down here please. Thank you xo

[CetaceousOne]

Mental illness is particularly difficult for some people to understand if they have not experienced it.
An otherwise able-bodied person can experience an incredible amount of pain and suffering that is not
obvious to the untrained observer. This doesn't make the illness any less real for those who have it.

With any type of illness, it can be very diificult to figure out the root cause of the symptoms, because there can be many different
things that cause the same symptoms. And there are many different approaches to treating those symptoms.
It's a little different for each person.

[starninja]

Mental illness is particularly difficult for some people to understand if they have not experienced it.
An otherwise able-bodied person can experience an incredible amount of pain and suffering that is not
obvious to the untrained observer. This doesn't make the illness any less real for those who have it.

With any type of illness, it can be very diificult to figure out the root cause of the symptoms, because there can be many different
things that cause the same symptoms. And there are many different approaches to treating those symptoms.
It's a little different for each person.


People do suffer and they go through enormous amount of pain. I think that it can be an eye opening to those who make negative comments about people who suffer that psychiatry is a form of manipulation. As a result, there is a stigma about mental illness and some people can be very cruel towards those who suffer. I wish they could understand it and see anther human pain and suffering without labeling. I am against any labeling and stereotyping. Well, we have a long way to go to make this world a better place!

:wub:

[frank samuel]

It makes me very sad to read this... someone who lacks compassion for the mentally ill,
but I also know he/she is not alone. I find it sad because each and every one of us suffers
from mental illness...

Every living being on this planet and even some plants and animals suffer from mental
inflictions at one time or another, in all different stages and in varying degrees.

So the people who CHOOSE to sit in judgment rather than acceptance are only fooling themselves...
they simply have neglected to look in the mirror. This is often the case with EVERY issue known to man.
It is also referred to as denial.

Besides... 'Judging' is so 1999... they are simply out of style :P

Depression is considered a mental illness... so please, tell me who out there has never
been able to relate to this simple definition of depression?

Depression: not being able to do, what you want to do, when you want to do it.

There is never anything wrong with being you.

I LOVE YOU!
:love:

Illuminate you hit the nail in the head when it comes to the subject of mental illness which if you permit me will take the liberty to rename,( heartistic disorders) , everyone on this planet is suffering from one form of mental illness or another, most will deny it. Why ? There's many reasons, upbringing traumatic experiences, exposure to a mental unbalance society. As a war veteran this subject hits home, many war veterans suffer from post traumatic stress disorders, meaning we become walking time bombs poorly equip to deal with any type of stress or meaningful relationships.

The solution as Celine mention is healing through loving relationships,relearning to trust yourself and others as we find within ourselves the courage to love once again. Finding the love spark within by forgiving ourselves for the many imperfections and short comings that we all have. Reaching with that love spark to our families, friends, neighbors, community, our surroundings. I guess you can say we all suffer from lack of love because we have become desensitize to this emotion of compassion, care, warmth, touch, smile,share, freely giving of ourselves without expecting absolutely anything in return. Love in that sense has become a fashion statement where it becomes a niece thing to say yet very difficult to materialize because of the many heartistic disorders that we all are suffering from.

To exercise the heart of love is almost unheard of, has anyone ever heard that ? Exercise your heart of love, is funny yet true, once you loose the fear of rejection of getting hurt by others by exposing our inner most self out in the open, then you get hit by the LOVE BUG, experiencing this emotion at every level and through everything you touch. Many of us are still taking baby steps, with the fear of getting trample on. It is no wonder that most people feel isolated, lonely and misunderstood, a sense of belonging someplace else.In that sense we have alienated ourselves from one another.

Right here right now is where we all belong, lets get on with the business of loving. Kicking our fears and imperfections, throwing them in the garbage,restarting our lives all over again, learning how to exercise, revitalize and empower our HEARTS OF LOVE.

Many many blessings to all.:grouphug::wub::hug::thumb:

[Celine]

Oh Frank what a great post!

Yes excersizing the heart of love is a necessity for so many these days...

I started this thread because there is a post on the forum, made by a Senior Member, on the profile page of another Senior Member here at Avalon, that shows a complete lack of love and understanding, or light.

I reported the post, but it is still there...

Someone i love very much posted it...i sincerly hope he reads this thread and learns something about love from all of you.

Every thing i do, everything i see, everything i hear....goes thru my heart first...

i feel...and love, everything.

Richard and i have a deep love that exists between breaths...the song of our love echoes in the silence of space..

That love is a gift, and is far different then the love i speak of...but it has similiarities..

I have tried to explain it to many people...not sure if i always succeeded.

Richard understands.

This person who posted the offending comments....

i love him, i opened my heart and soul to him. i could "feel" his essence near me at all times. I felt his experiences and allow my soul to mingle with his.

This type of relationship is common for me...i had to learn tools of service, which allowed me to disconect from the physical need to then allow the intamacy of human relationships to grow..

Many ...fear the intensity...most are curious...some allow it...

The moment i realized...who...what i am.. A Love being... i was free...

[Caren]

Dear Celine,
Your above posts really touch my heart... thank you for your honesty and compassion and thank you for
sharing your abundant love with others so freely. We must always love and care for others. I'm sending arm
loads of love to you (you may need a wheelbarrow) and in with the love you will notice the beautiful,
extra large, bouquet of flowers; freshly cut today from my garden. I hope you like the soft yellow and pink roses, and the beautiful, pure white baby's breath I have included. Thank you for creating this place,
Always in love,
caren

[Celine]

*celine tries to lift the wheelbarrow, but cant....*

Rich? can i get a hand?

hehe

Thank you for your heartfelt words caren


i feel so incredibly blessed to be part of the Avalonian family...

Thank you.



I suppose one of the hardest things after realising i am Love, is how to deal with the negative side of love.


Ok..heres a question..

Why does a victim of abuse, love her abuser?

IMO....Love is not conditional on anything...it is a state of being.

Can you love the most vile? the most distasteful of beings?

Yes...came my answer...that is when i knew.

i had no choice but to love.

[frank samuel]

Oh Frank what a great post!

Yes excersizing the heart of love is a necessity for so many these days...

I started this thread because there is a post on the forum, made by a Senior Member, on the profile page of another Senior Member here at Avalon, that shows a complete lack of love and understanding, or light.

I reported the post, but it is still there...

Someone i love very much posted it...i sincerly hope he reads this thread and learns something about love from all of you.

Every thing i do, everything i see, everything i hear....goes thru my heart first...

i feel...and love, everything.

Richard and i have a deep love that exists between breaths...the song of our love echoes in the silence of space..

That love is a gift, and is far different then the love i speak of...but it has similiarities..

I have tried to explain it to many people...not sure if i always succeeded.

Richard understands.

This person who posted the offending comments....

i love him, i opened my heart and soul to him. i could "feel" his essence near me at all times. I felt his experiences and allow my soul to mingle with his.

This type of relationship is common for me...i had to learn tools of service, which allowed me to disconect from the physical need to then allow the intamacy of human relationships to grow..

Many ...fear the intensity...most are curious...some allow it...

The moment i realized...who...what i am.. A Love being... i was free...

Celine thank you for being your beautiful self.I think that originally we where just light beings of love who decided to play in the 3 dimensional world, thus we got more than we bargain for, as we have de evolve from what we where to what we are now. Still memories and flashes of our original self sheds light away from this hellish reality helping us to see ourselves outside of the madness if you will.

Life has come full circle as we are learning again to exercise our hearts to bring forth the original light and love that once was abundant within us. We are but mere mirror image of each other in that way we cannot judge others without judging ourselves, for our temporal delusional self has forgotten the cherished memories of oneness that was once a part of our being. One day soon that reality will be permanently imprinted within the very essence of our soul thus doing away with the madness which has temporally derailed us from becoming the beautiful beings of light and love which we have always been.

Many many blessings to all.:wub:

[HORIZONS]

*


I suppose one of the hardest things after realising i am Love, is how to deal with the negative side of love.


Ok..heres a question..

Why does a victim of abuse, love her abuser?

IMO....Love is not conditional on anything...it is a state of being.

Can you love the most vile? the most distasteful of beings?

Yes...came my answer...that is when i knew.

i had no choice but to love.

Very true - for if we only love the lovable or those that love us, what kind of real love is that? For even the lowest levels of darkness love their own kind. But if we can transcend the norms of our self-for-self natures and become self-for-others motivated - an expression of true love - and love the unlovable, those that abuse us, defile us and even spit in our face, then we are free of all belief systems and can be this expression of love you are bringing to our attention. Personally, I think this is the grand quest before us all.

[illuminate]

Wow, what a BEAUTIFUL thread this has become!

All these heartfelt words are a gift we give each other...
I am very moved by these posts!
Thanks to each of you for giving this gift!!!

@Frank... I LOVE the re-naming of 'mental illness' to 'heartistic disorders'... perfect!

With love and a HUGE HUG!!! (and a few extra for Tuza!) :hug:

:love:

[kcw_one]

Hey guys. This thread just keeps getting better.

About loving the abusers, it is difficult I know. The way I have found is to KNOW that the person we look at in the mirror is an extension of the same non-physical Source of AllThatIs, and that everyone else is an extension of that same source energy. From that broader perspective, we are all extensions of the same thing and in reality, THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US HERE. Learning to love one another, even the bad guys, begins with loving yourself.

We come here to experience CONTRAST -- the differences between what we want and what we don't want. The contrast regarding love - wanting and not having it vs. wanting it, having it and enjoying it - is one that we all have power to influence. Be the love you want to see. Love others with every ounce of effort you can manage. Put your attention on being loved, and loving, you begin to actively bring the frequency kf love into your vibrational pattern. On e you are offering love in your vibration, you'll begin to attract love more and more into your experience.

I love you guys and I hope you find all that you seek.

[BrianEn]

This is one of the positive threads I have ever read.


I really have to give kudos to those affected by people living with and loving those with a mental illness. It's not an easy thing. They too need our support not just those afflicted. They often have it worse than those with the illness. To see a loved one who was maybe healthy and happy turn into someone they don't recognize. The pain and frustration must be immense. My kudos to them.

[Fredkc]

Illuminate;
It makes me very sad to read this... someone who lacks compassion for the mentally ill, but I also know he/she is not alone.
I'll try to keep this simple,

It's not compassion they lack, it's compassion, and identification they feel, and fear that drives them.

Externalization is merely the effort to put the illusion of distance between yourself and what rings a bell within you. Ridicule is the method used to gain acceptance in that "distance" by getting others to feel it with you.

It's a constant battle to remember that the things you "bounce off of" in this manner also attracted you, in the first place.

The key is always forgiveness. Forgiveness of self, and others involved is the two-headed approach that will work, when sincerely practiced. It's how things "go away", permanently resolved.

Fred

[Celine]

Forgiveness is a BIG part of love..

People who live in light...easily reach this end...

Fear and hate create unloving hearts

[Pompaul]

A BIG problem within our society seems to be is what many term as 'being normal' ?

From the latter part of 2001 until mid-2005 I worked as handyman/gardner at a secondary college with just over one thousand students. The school had several 'Intergration Students' ~ (With disabilities) physical, mental and often both. Often in my many diffrent duties I would have several of these students help out in the extensive gardens. Combined with their ' Intergratiion Aids' we set up a herb garden for them to work in and the herbs could be used in the "Home Eco" classes. These 'Special Kids' would just love to be out there doing jobs, even pulling up weeds.

In mid 2005 I decided to leave, mainly as my wife was into her 4th year of dealing with cancer and I wanted more time to be with her. On my second to last day at the school I received a message to go to the Intergration office. They were all there, Kids, Aids and associated staff. They presented me with a farewell card full of signatures from the kids and staff, covered in kisses,and hearts too, all hand drawn. Also a laminated poster, again with signatures from kids and staff and hand drawn pictures of birds, flowers in pots and a watering can.

In the centre at the bottom was a message; "Thanks for all your help and making our school look nice. You have been very kind to us all ~ From the staff and students in the support office". Below the message in the centre a hand drawn sun with a smily face.

Those kids were always full of love and passion in the gardens ~ you could just feel it in the air, they often did not want to leave. Most of those students won't be at that school now ~ but I bet the majority are still smiling and enjoying life in their particular world. ( Their whole reason for being here):)

Much Love to One and All Paul

[Celine]

Thank you for sharing such a beautiful moment in your life.

Amazing what a smile can do...

[giovonni]

any human being who has never felt or suffered any mental anxiety> during these last few years ~ is truly not<>human! :(
here's some of the musical soundtrack~ that's streaming through gio's mad mind~ tonite ;)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UD_NVtEV0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eAprKvKttI&feature=related

[Goldenserenity]

There are many reasons why people develop mental health and substance use problems:

True Ammit, there are many reasons.

I myself have worked with people (for at least 10 years of my career) who have had mental health issues, drug and alcohol issues, Alzheimer's and Dementia. The remaining 11 years were with "normal" people. Many of the normal people displayed some of the same characteristics of the "mentally unbalanced" people.

Sometimes though I wonder if some of the mental health issues could be resolved by a person just by changing their thoughts. I know...easier said than done! it wouldn't be an overnight thing, but a process. Lets use an example, and to be nice and not pick on anybody, I will use myself as the example. Say I had some awful teenage years at home with my parents, and from that experience I made some bad choices and went in and out of bad relationships experiencing mental abuse, and physical abuse, and when I finally get myself out of those awful times, I get attacked, choked and raped by some dude. Bad example maybe, but life could be like that for someone. Now, to have many experiences like that in 1 lifetime, one would think that those experiences could lead to a mental disorder and possibly some addictive behaviors. This persons past could lead them in and out of mental institutes for years! And maybe even substance abuse treatment centers as those two can go hand in hand. (Bad experiences in life...cover up with drugs and alcohol to help the self forget those experiences)
So, some could argue that those experiences caused the mental illness and substance abuse issues, but I feel that if a person changes their perspective of the past, and let go of whatever happened to them, that they could get past the so called illness. It's when people choose to hang onto the past issues that they are haunted by them on a day to day basis. Hanging onto a past like that could make anybody feel crazy! So, as mentioned above by someone, forgiveness is in order, not just of the self, but of the offender as well!

Another thing I wonder about is entities. I'm not sure if anybody believes in a person being attacked by entities. (I do!) Some people have one or multiple entities connected to them which I feel could cause a mental illness like issue.

I dunno...I could think of other things that could cause mental like illnesses, but I'll stop for now as I'm not sure how this post will go over with people.:confused:

[Dougall]

I put in a solid decade as Care Giver to Adults with TBI aka ABI. And as well some of my Clients had organic mental illness sans Trauma.
What some people are trying to learn about this field I am trying to forget. Meaning I have seen it all.
I was, Muscle Head - Cook - Counsel - Med Man - Wiper. I wont go into details about the similarities or combinations of Brain Injury vs Mental Illness. I will say I believe I have seen how bad it can get. (Level 4i facility) , I can assure you the Clients were treated with kindness and respect.

I could talk for hours on this subject, I think the one thing I would like to say is that for a Pro to function in such an environment, He or She must remain detached. If a worker assumes the suffering , anger, confusion, etc of the Clients they will not last long. That may account for some of the Nurse Ratchet type characters portrayed in the movies.

Compassionate Detachment :first:

When someone loses their legs, People make allowances because they can see the legless person may be slower or may need assistance.
When someone has trouble intergrading info they get no such allowances because others can't see the cause.

To those who suffer, and can manage independent living or even simi independent living , my hat is off to you.
I would say, continue to take your meds, talk to your shrink, and take a deep breath. There are none of us perfect.
And People do Care.

[frank samuel]

Goldenserenity you are absolutely right, my mother suffer from mental depression, and sought psychiatric help for years. As a young boy I read self help books in order to help my mom snap out of her mental depression. I found from visiting these mental health institutions of that time in the early 70s that they kept these people drug and in a severe dazed, my mom could hardly recognize me, and she could barely speak while under the influence of these type of medications. I decided to take my mom home and help her to recuperate from her depression. Is been over 30 years since my mom recuperated and may I add it had nothing to do with Psychiatric help. She like you said change her way of thinking that itself produce the inner power within herself to snap out of it.

Since the 70s unfortunately not much has change in psychiatric treatments in general, my ex wife works in a local mental health hospital and what you see is people drooling on the floor totally out of it. I asked my ex wife what was the success rate as far as the recovery of these mental health patients , she answer, "2 % at best".

Lets be totally honest we are all suffering from some form of mental health or another, psychiatrist , psychologist, social workers included . No offense to anyone since I have many friends that worked within these fields and we have candid personal conversations.

What is the solution ? Goldenserenity from my experience you hit the nail in the head, the answers to many of our mental health issues and recovery are within us, the way we think, feel, speak. Drugs only worsen the problem, if you don't believe me visit a local mental health hospital and you'll be shocked to see patients totally out of it, on antidepressant drugs so strong that they lay on the floor drooling all over themselves.
We have the inner power of the heart to re transform our lives and in essence help ourselves, family and friends to recuperate from many of the things that afflict us .

Many many blessings to all.:thumb:

[Goldenserenity]

I think the one thing I would like to say is that for a Pro to function in such an environment, He or She must remain detached. If a worker assumes the suffering , anger, confusion, etc of the Clients they will not last long. That may account for some of the Nurse Ratchet type characters portrayed in the movies

That may account for some of the Nurse Ratchet type characters portrayed in the movies.

I never detached from my patients! Most of the patients there needed someone who appeared strong, able to manage their own issues yet capable of showing themself human as well as caring and compassionate. I would sit and listen to them on the 1:1 communications, but I never allowed their issues and problems to become my own. Kind of like when a person goes to work, they hang their problems and issues on the rack outside of the workplace, then collect them again when they leave? Same thing when you leave work. You hang everybody's problems and issues on the rack and not take them home with you.

A nurse Ratchet comes onto the scene because they don't wish to be there. They are in it for the money, so they lack compassion and the caring nature a nurse should portray.

[greybeard]

Having suffered from Alcoholism and being sober now for over 30 years through the twelve step program of AA.
I have seen many hopeless cases become more sane than normal people-- smiling.
The AA program had been modified for use with other mental illnesses ad found to be of great help.
in simplicity first there has to be an acceptance of an inability to solve the problem one self, to realize that a Higher power can restore oneself to sanity.
The Higher Power may be the Power of unconditional love expressed through the recovery group. Certainly that is very effective.
I think the main cause of some mental illness is a feeling of being unloved unwanted not deserving of love, totally alone.
Sometimes this causes attention seeking and this is an unconscious desire to be noticed at any cost, a child can quickly learn it gets more attention through miss behaving than through good behavior. That can set a pattern for being dysfunctional in the eyes of society.
AA teaches through example unconditional love and personal experience better coping mechanisms.
Because people in the group have been there done it recovered and share their experiences, the newcomer will listen when they wont listen to Dr--- spouse, clergy, probation officer, social worker. Then there is the possibility of change and hence recovery of millions of former sufferers.
Unconditional love is the necessary ingredient, faith in a loving God tends to follow.
Chris

[Goldenserenity]

Goldenserenity you are absolutely right, my mother suffer from mental depression, and sought psychiatric help for years. As a young boy I read self help books in order to help my mom snap out of her mental depression. I found from visiting these mental health institutions of that time in the early 70s that they kept these people drug and in a severe dazed, my mom could hardly recognize me, and she could barely speak while under the influence of these type of medications. I decided to take my mom home and help her to recuperate from her depression. Is been over 30 years since my mom recuperated and may I add it had nothing to do with Psychiatric help. She like you said change her way of thinking that itself produce the inner power within herself to snap out of it.

Since the 70s unfortunately not much has change in psychiatric treatments in general, my ex wife works in a local mental health hospital and what you see is people drooling on the floor totally out of it. I asked my ex wife what was the success rate as far as the recovery of these mental health patients , she answer, "2 % at best".

Lets be totally honest we are all suffering from some form of mental health or another, psychiatrist , psychologist, social workers included . No offense to anyone since I have many friends that worked within these fields and we have candid personal conversations.

What is the solution ? Goldenserenity from my experience you hit the nail in the head, the answers to many of our mental health issues and recovery are within us, the way we think, feel, speak. Drugs only worsen the problem, if you don't believe me visit a local mental health hospital and you'll be shocked to see patients totally out of it, on antidepressant drugs so strong that they lay on the floor drooling all over themselves.
We have the inner power of the heart to re transform our lives and in essence help ourselves, family and friends to recuperate from many of the things that afflict us .

Many many blessings to all.:thumb:

I agree with you Frank on the medications keeping people heavily medicated. I remember once when I went to the doctor complaining of a headache back in the early 90's...I left his office with a prescription for Prozac as the doctor felt that the headache was caused by stress which was caused from depression. I was nice to the dr. and took the stupid prescription, but never filled it at the pharmacy. I just didn't feel like I had any depression. :confused:

The joke where i worked that was floating around by the patients was...what's the difference between the patients and the staff? The staff hold the keys to get out of the unit they would say. :rolleyes:

[Dougall]

I never detached from my patients! Most of the patients there needed someone who appeared strong, able to manage their own issues yet capable of showing themself human as well as caring and compassionate. I would sit and listen to them on the 1:1 communications, but I never allowed their issues and problems to become my own. Kind of like when a person goes to work, they hang their problems and issues on the rack outside of the workplace, then collect them again when they leave? Same thing when you leave work. You hang everybody's problems and issues on the rack and not take them home with you.

A nurse Ratchet comes onto the scene because they don't wish to be there. They are in it for the money, so they lack compassion and the caring nature a nurse should portray.

I agree with you Doctor, and clearly you are on the clinical side of things. I like your style, and just want to add that I no longer work in that field. I was on the direct delivery side of things.
We were not allowed to use chemical restraints or any other restraints.
If a Client 'went off' we would use control until the client could resume control of himself.
I have been bitten really badly more than two or three times. I have been slapped, kicked punched, and scratched, like you wouldn't believe. I have been cussed and spit on katie bar the door too wet to plow.
I never held a grudge or slapped back, never slighted a client so much as a corn chip.
Thats what I mean by detached.

[Caren]

Hi All,
Just want to sincerely commend you guys on these last number of posts! It's wonderful to see so
much compassion, empathy, love and respect given to others. My hats off to you guys! (pink ball cap)
and a big Thank You...
caren

[Heartsong]

Just for balance in this conversation, I want to say that it's medication and therapy that kept me out of a mental institution. I'm still on medication and will be forever. I don't go around heavily sedated. No body except my best friends know I'm on it.
Heartsong

[illuminate]

Just for balance in this conversation, I want to say that it's medication and therapy that kept me out of a mental institution. I'm still on medication and will be forever. I don't go around heavily sedated. No body except my best friends know I'm on it.
Heartsong

I just wanted to say that I was on meds for eight years...
Effexor for depression, anxiety, panic disorder and PSTD... and it saved my life.
There is nothing wrong with doing whatever it takes to be the best you can be.
Many blessings to you Heartsong!!!

With Love!!
:love:

[blue777]

I just wanted to say that I was on meds for eight years...
Effexor for depression, anxiety, panic disorder and PSTD... and it saved my life.
There is nothing wrong with doing whatever it takes to be the best you can be.
Many blessings to you Heartsong!!!

With Love!!
:love:

Well done illuminate, I think you will find many have suffered and are suffering on this forum
love and light
blue

[Goldenserenity]

I agree with you Doctor,


I'm not a doctor, I'm a nurse, and I too worked with direct patient care. We did not restrain any patients either. I believe the state stepped in saying that a person is allowed to act in any way they choose. It's their "right"

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Since diagnosed with PTSD in February of 1980, after I was brought back home away from the nightmares of the facility, I've been on various meds ever since, for acute pain, system stabilisers and depression. I still have PTSD stamped on all my med files. Its never gonna go away.

[Swami]

Since diagnosed with PTSD in February of 1980, after I was brought back home away from the nightmares of the facility, I've been on various meds ever since, for acute pain, system stabilisers and depression. I still have PTSD stamped on all my med files. Its never gonna go away.

What is PTSD.......?:confused::o

Post Traumatical Stress Disorder...??

[greybeard]

Whatever works Illuminate my friend.
Love chris

[illuminate]

I just wanted to say that I was on meds for eight years...
Effexor for depression, anxiety, panic disorder and PSTD... and it saved my life.
There is nothing wrong with doing whatever it takes to be the best you can be.
Many blessings to you Heartsong!!!

Hello again... I just wanted to add to my last post on this thread...

I've suffered depression since birth :p then the panic disorder came about after having done too much LSD in high school resulting in a very bad trip.... then the panic continued to worsen through my twenties resulting in much alcohol abuse and smoking more pot than a Rastafarian :p

It was in my thirties, when I watched 911 from the street below that put me ass-over-tea-kettle into a deeper depression, anxiety and then post traumatic stress order (which is what will happen when you watch people jump to their deaths from a very tall building!) This all compounded to the point of being so unbearable I literally could NOT get out of bed, or feed myself or my pets... that's when a dear friend came and dragged me to a doctor and they immediately put me on Effexor. I had fought meds my whole life, but let me tell you, in one day I started to feel better and within a week I was eating and able to get out of bed.... this is why I said that the meds saved my life. I wanted to die! Then a few days on pills and I wanted to live. I needed a crutch and this happened to be it.

I was told I would have to be on these meds for the rest of my life! That, just like how someone who regulates their blood pressure with pills, I would have to balance the chemicals in my brain with meds. And for the next eight years, this was true.

What I wanted to add is that I was able to get off the pills and BEAT the depression, anxiety, panic and PTSD...
how you may ask?

Self LOVE, proper diet and nutrition, meditation and did I mention LOVE :love:
There are a lot of natural remedies to help too like Valerian and Kava Kava and St. John's Wart.
Getting off the pills was NOT an easy task (that topic would take another thread!)
But I did it and I have never felt better in my entire life. I am 39 going on 18 and I love myself as much as I love each and everyone of you!

With Love!!
:love:

[Swami]

Do you have mercury/amalgan fillings in your teeth illuminate....?

[Celine]

YAY LOVE!!!!

that is great to hear/read Illuminate.


It is hard for me to explain sometimes what i mean by Love.. the word has been so distorted.

i am glad for everyone sharring experiences here...it has create a world of positive support and information for many.

Thank you

Here's to living , In Love!

[illuminate]

Do you have mercury/amalgan fillings in your teeth illuminate....?

unfortunately... YES!!!!!!

I want them OUT... but it is not so easy!
I do know for a fact this is quite a problem for me!!
Can you take them out for me PLEASE :p

With Love!
:love:

[Swami]

unfortunately... YES!!!!!!

I want them OUT... but it is not so easy!
I do know for a fact this is quite a problem for me!!
Can you take them out for me PLEASE :p

With Love!
:love:

Same problem overhere.......:(

[Goldenserenity]

I had all of mine taken out and replaced in 2008. I hated the thought of all those shots in my mouth, and the dentist said he would put me out during the whole procedure. It took him about 3 hours to do the job, but now I have all composite fillings. By looking at my teeth, you can't tell that I ever had a cavity in my whole life! :)
Sometimes though I wonder...am I getting more vocal these days because of the amalgam removal, the removal of the toxins from my body and not ingesting fluoride? I used to be so quiet and kept my opinions and thoughts to myself. Lately, I just open mouth and insert foot some of the times. :confused:

[illuminate]

Same problem overhere.......:(

Ah.. ok Swami, let's work together here and manifest this freaking metal out of our mouths!!!!

I want what Goldenserenity got done!!

:love:

[onawah]

A friend of mine had a meltdown this week while staying with me, though it has been coming for a long time.
I have flipped out a few times myself in the past, also had severe physical issues to deal with, had a near-death experience from a near-fatal accident, have nearly been homeless a few times, but I always managed to pull myself together again somehow (with help from friends).
I felt like she had come to me (though she has a big circle of friends who have been helping her who are probably more sympathetic than I am) because I am a survivor of so many challenges and perhaps have a kind of strength she would like to have (she is frail where I am sturdy) .
I found myself being less than the loving person I know she wanted me to be, though I did give her healing, feed her, run errands for her, talk to her, etc.
I felt a need to practice "tough love" and urged her to be more rational and stop being so needy and demanding and such a drama queen.
Her demands were endless: "Stay with me, feed me, give me a food rub, take me to the emergency room, tell me what's wrong with me, take me to the store, buy me some medicine, and if you won't do it, I will call my other friends until I found someone who will!"
I kept getting a picture of her in my head as a little girl with a small whip, standing in a circle of adults. Every time she cracked her whip, the adults would jump through hoops and she was grinning and so delighted to see the power she had to make all these capable adults respond to her commands.
I took her to stay in another town with some caregiver friends who work with Alzheimer's patients and even they could not deal with all her demands, and ended up taking her to stay in a "stress center" where she will doubtless be drugged, though she wants to be healed with herbs and alternative means.
It may be that drugs are what she needs at this point, and if so, I hope they will help her to calm down, because it is very hard to be around her as she was and I am sure she does not want to be institutionalized.
I felt my best wisdom were the words of the Buddha "Rely on no one but yourself". because if you don't have a strong core of determination to survive and be your own best friend, I don't think anyone else can do it for you. I told her to just refuse to let her fear get the best of her and she asked me how. I told her that no one can tell her how to do that, she has to find that answer within.
I don't know if I was wrong to be tough with her, but it was really the best I could do.
I imagine a lot of people are freaking out now, as we get down to the crunch. My heart goes out to them, but I am so conditioned now to put survival first, it is difficult to take on anyone who seems to be a liability to me, though I will do what I feel I can.
Thanks for this thread, which at this time, is a good place for me to get this out!!

[Chakra]

My mother was mentally ill after a nervous breakdown. I grew up with it. I can simpathize with your struggles. But honesty - as Shakespear said it so well 'to thine own self be true' the self he is taking about was the soul. Other's have their own path to healing and they choose it daily... I went though a tough road of illness many years back if you know astrology at all it will show up. I had a grand cross of birth pluto square sun opposit to transiting saturn square pluto. People don't usually live though those I was told. :) Ya for cleaning up karma....

The other thing you might have noticed - I did in your post - was how devastatingly self centered and egotistical this illness can be. I read once that the 1st nations peoples would tie the 'crazy' person to a tree till they got better. lol I can see how this would work quite well for a number of reasons. :)

The PTSD - I healed that by getting pissed and demanding my power back. :) I did this with saying 'no' more, with being gentle with myself, no self criticism and lots of rest. I also moved - the energy where you live can be effecting this too.

I also did active decrees mantra's and meditation - but basically I demanded my right to exsist in the physical as I am that I am. (I just watch a video on David Wilcock's last night and I see he is saying this too now - I got it from one of Buddha's mudra's :) Anyways I got a whole bunch of calls like this on my website. I also did flower essences to heal the soul damage. FES is a good brand. Helps heal the damaged psychi and all.

Depression - don't eat chocolate, or drink beer. Both are depressants - unfortunately. :) 5htp is really good.
Also if you have ever fallen on your tail bone really hard and jarred it. You would need cranial sacral therapy the rhythm of the spinal column is off and will cause depression. It is non evasive and really amazing. http://www.upledger.com/

All the best!

[Ammit]

People having `meltdowns` seems to be increasing, as our life styles and society become more demanding and coupled with less
relaxation time, I am not surprised.
I do sometimes wonder Goldenserenity if the entity theory plays a part with some clients. One of mine shows signs of low IQ and
besides her ramblings would pass as a compasionate and loving individual, but, then it is like "POW" and this person turns into
a very inteligent and sinister person who will in great detail explain how she would like to rid herself of persons not liked in our unit.

At times I find it frustrating as the outbursts last about 5 mins then she is back to normal. I am a little on the sensitive side but not
clairevoyant/claireaudiant but do often sense things around me, the senses she gives off for that 5 mins is like the room is full of
unseen people, and when it stops , so do the senses....

Very strange sometimes.

Ammit

[blue777]

People having `meltdowns` seems to be increasing, as our life styles and society become more demanding and coupled with less
relaxation time, I am not surprised.
I do sometimes wonder Goldenserenity if the entity theory plays a part with some clients. One of mine shows signs of low IQ and
besides her ramblings would pass as a compasionate and loving individual, but, then it is like "POW" and this person turns into
a very inteligent and sinister person who will in great detail explain how she would like to rid herself of persons not liked in our unit.

At times I find it frustrating as the outbursts last about 5 mins then she is back to normal. I am a little on the sensitive side but not
clairevoyant/claireaudiant but do often sense things around me, the senses she gives off for that 5 mins is like the room is full of
unseen people, and when it stops , so do the senses....

Very strange sometimes.

Ammit

I totally agree, as the transmutation takes place, the fuse is getting shorter , more people are getting uptight and having emotional negative outbursts.
lol
blue
dominic

[Celine]

i do not belive that mental illness..all of it...relates to any kind of transmutation.

it is a serious issue in our medical world and our personal world.

To many people judge others, talk about others who are not deemed "perfect" in theire eyes still..

These people speak of love and light...

"oh we are going to help the world"...

and then they bash people who have illnesses that is out of their control.

They tell people they love them...but have no idea what love is.

Fakers...all of them

[rhythm]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4w5sqP13AsU/Rzk6aV0pJCI/AAAAAAAABcw/uXduVbTpBYQ/s320/kindness%2Blesson.jpg

best pills is love n kindness eh!!!!:whoo:

[Celine]

Yes ..as stated all over this thread..

Real love and care... SINCERE love...cures alll..

[Ammit]

Celine
I am not sure if they are fakers or not, all I know is that the guys and gals I try to help and make their lives better are in need of more help then I think any amount of love will give. Along with the dementia, autism and adult behaviour problemed people, we also have some that are there to keep the public safe as they are truely uncontrollable once they set their minds to causing others harm.

When you see a 70+ year old retired person who works part time to look after the animals we have as it has 17 acres of farmland, half beaten to death with a metal dustbin, purely because someone didnt like his hat that day, surely makes you wonder how their minds tick.

Ammit

[Celine]

Yes Ammit, i apologize... im sorry..

i grew up in the world of psychiatry... i know full well many need ALL the help they can get....forgive me if my comments did not allude to that..

i was hurt very badly By someone on this forum making very insensitive comments direct at me and another member..

but this is just an example of the bigger picture.

The ones who behave this way, will only know what true love is, if they realize how being judgmental like that is detrimental to their growth...not anyone elses,

[Ammit]

Celine
No appology is needed.
But none of my comments were directed at you, I was purely trying to remark on the love heals all bit. Some are sadly too far gone for any of that.

Ammit

[John Parslow]

Hello Celine

What a wonderfully insightful person you, I totally agree with you, sometimes you pass a person in the street and just know they would like a hug - after all don't we all - what a shame our social ineptitude (if that's what it is) prevents us from sharing a few seconds of happiness.

Love and peace to you. JP :cool:

[Ghostmarley]

just wanna say : LOVE YA ALL :kiss3: and a very big :grouphug: to all of ya.

[Caren]

Hey there Ghostmarley and JP,
There can never be enough love/hugs given to others in my opinion. So love to all and a big HUG as well!
Have the nicest day...:)
caren

[kcw_one]

In regards to the subject of treatment of mental illnesses, most of our ideas about these things IMO have come from the mainstream medical vantage point of dis-ease. Speaking from experience as a past sufferer of depressive episodes, I know how it feels to be unwell in the head, if you'll pardon the expression. My brief experience with seeking relief through psychology/psychiatry taught me that in their view I merely had a problem with the neurochemical workings in my body which just needed tweaking with some meds. I tried those for ammonth or two, and felt numbness. For a short while, it was nice to not feel crappy about the things that were getting me down, but before long it began to bother me that I wasn't really feeling anything at all anymore. So I said screw it. I'd rather be feeling crappy part if the time than not feel antthin at all.

But such is the case with much of the mainstream medical viewpoint on bodies and health. The body is looked at as a meat machine of chemicals and wiring, in most cases ignoring completely the non-physical aspects of the human BEING. Give them a pill to relieve the symptoms is what most treatment protocols boil down to. Helping people function without addressing the source of the dis-ease.

We've been looking at the idea of a lack of love playing a part in the realm of mental illness, and I think that is a huge part of it. Any illness is easier to heal with copious use of love and caring. The other important aspec has to do with thoughts IMO. We have a vague idea of the power of thought, but maybe no enough. It may be true that our thoughts determine how we feel, according to the perspective we choose. With the social pressures and conditioning we face as individuals, we tend to have accepted perspectives because it is expected of us. Only with constant effort can we change our thinking, but it can be done and the effects can be quite profound.

Thinking about how common these freakouts and depressions and such have become, maybe it isn't so abnormal. Maybe these are health reactions to an unhealthy world.

[Celine]

A very insightful post, kcw_one

i agree that there are other tools that need to be in play to help cure with Love.

Care...sincerity...honor...

Imagine, having someone bathe you, feed you, dress you, read to you , tuck you in, and sleep next to you in a chair watcing over you.


Not always... not for a month...

Just...for a moment... to feel that cared for.

To give up all need to focus on yourself...to submit your body, mind and soul...to the care of another...

In that moment of freedom ...is where the healing begins.

[onawah]

Love can take many forms, depending on the needs of the individual.
Sometimes love means setting healthy boundaries, sometimes it means unconditional motherlove.
Zen masters would often put the mentally ill in a room alone for long periods of time and just give them instruction in meditation. It often worked.
On the other hand, rebirthers often get wonderful results by treating their patients as though they are infants, and that too can work.
Blessed is the healer/ caregiver who knows what is appropriate at any given time!
And who knows when he/she is responding out of a need to feel needed, which can make the patient even more needy and dependent.

[Celine]

we are , our own best healers..

i dont have faith in people who label themselves healers.

but i agree that there is a variety of ways to cure with Love

[onawah]

A "healer" is simply someone who helps another find the space in which to heal themselves or to allow healing to take place. Healing energy is all around us, we only have to prepare a place within us to let it enter. Nature is the best healer.

[Celine]

Agreed..

mais...

there are abusers of that energy...

[greybeard]

we are , our own best healers..

i dont have faith in people who label themselves healers.

but i agree that there is a variety of ways to cure with Love

I agree and disagree Celine.
Have been the channel for healing but would never say that I did it personally.
If I personally could heal the world of suffering would be healed, I cant do that.
The end result is always surrendered to a Higher Power.
In a world of duality it would sem suffering is necessary to invoke compassion, may that be coming to an end.
All healing actually come from within the person with the ailment.
Ive actually seen people with severe clinical depression healed in three sessions using Bio-energy and N.L.P.
Best analogy I can come up with is.
Its a bit like a car with a flat battery, along comes another car, jump leads are connected, the first car comes to life and the leads are disconnected.
First car then is enabled to charge its own battery by going for a long run.
Its the fits and starts of life that drains the battery, stopping and starting rather than a focus ad keeping on going till the journey is completed, what ever that may be.
Much love chris.

Ps I trained with the organization link below

http://www.bi-aura.com/

The person who started Bio-energy training and trained me fifteen years ago is now in Canada.
He is very gifted and a excellent teacher.
His link below

http://www.daltonsbio.com/

[wynderer]

Dear Celine -- i always can feel your own tender love

in the '70s i was at an A.R.E. [Edgar Cayce center in Va Beach] conference -- i can't remember who the speaker was -- to show the power of love, he'd asked a young girl, 10 or 11 years old, to stand on the stage by herself, & for all of us [maybe 200 in the audience] to send love to her -- i wasn't the only one crying -- the little girl -- it was like watching a flower open to the sun -- she was glowing, w/a million dollar smile & all her shyness gone -- the love went all around the room also -- i've never forgotten this

i just listened to one of David Icke's talks on the Maria Heller show -- he said that psychiatrists have told him that 25% -30% of people in mental institutions are there because of spontaneous kundalini awakenings -- very sad

some day we'll all be in a place where Love rules

[Victoria Tintagel]

Thanks, everyone, for all your wise words. Within the philosophy of the antroposofy, many mental illnesses in people that are kept in institutes, behind fences, are an expression of the temperaments in their purest forms: the choleric, the sanguinic, the melancholic and the flegmatic temperaments. See www.rsarchives.org But my input on a personal level is, that when my family asks me why in the world I am involved in all kind of changes and movements, with happy and sad periods..... why not settle for a steady life...... ? I answer "I rather have a blue spot, a bruise, on my soul than that I should not be able to feel that I have a soul.......... that shuts them down for a while ((:

[Ammit]

Tintagelcave, sadly the majority of the folks I work with may have a soul but dont realy know they exist, i do try to tell them of life, the simple things like takeing them out , listen to birds, water and to relax, but most go ape **** because it is simply too mush information. The jug almost full syndrome...
Love to you all

[Celine]

- the little girl -- it was like watching a flower open to the sun -- she was glowing, w/a million dollar smile & all her shyness gone -- the love went all around the room also -- i've never forgotten this

Love rules

What a beautiful story , thank you so much or sharing this..

[Celine]

Tintagelcave, sadly the majority of the folks I work with may have a soul but dont realy know they exist, i do try to tell them of life, the simple things like takeing them out , listen to birds, water and to relax, but most go ape **** because it is simply too mush information. The jug almost full syndrome...
Love to you all

My mother worked with psychiatric patients here in montreal before and after medication came into play..

she told me horror stories of "pits" with men ..(women were held in a different area)...feces on the walls...no clothes... it was horrible...and then when they introduced medication, she was witness to amazing transformations.....she got to brush womens hair, show them how to put on lipstick... simple things ..but gave them so much..

[Ammit]

Yeah but we do however still hace the faeces on the walls, doors ceilings etc, drugs do what they do, make someone a submissive for a short time then when they have worn of ( if they even worked) it gets even worse. No kidding this is my reality..

[Celine]

Oh i am not doubting you..

but they way she described it...it was like an "awakening" for many.

People who had been institutionalized all theire life were able to leave..


"Heinz Lehmann was Chair of the department from 1971 to 1975. Lehmann who had been working at Douglas since the 1930s, became famous for being the first person in North America to introduce neuroleptic drugs for schizophrenia. Although best known as a researcher, he was also celebrated as a teacher, inspiring generations of future psychiatrists. Finally, Lehmann stabilized the department during a time of crisis. Political changes in Québec during the 1970s led to the departure of several senior members, but the department weathered the storm, replacing its losses with a younger generation who had innovative ideas. "

[Celine]

BP pays millions in mental-health aid

BP will provide $15 million for immediate mental-health aid for coastal residents as they continue to struggle with joblessness and depression stemming from the Gulf oil spill.

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20100818/FEATURES12/100819274/-1/living?Title=BP-pays-millions-in-mental-health-aid

Ok its good they want to help...but is this necessary?

[Victoria Tintagel]

Tintagelcave, sadly the majority of the folks I work with may have a soul but dont realy know they exist, i do try to tell them of life, the simple things like takeing them out , listen to birds, water and to relax, but most go ape **** because it is simply too mush information. The jug almost full syndrome...
Love to you all

Dear Ammit, yes I know very well what you mean, when you say patients don't really know they exist, but believe me (or not) their beings know everything and are witness to what you give them, how you treat them and who you are. On the personal level there's a problem of not being able to communicate or process information or impressions and I guess you give them as much comfort and love as you can. I was once in a bus, standing next to a so called "mentally retarded person". I didn't feel happy at all, this person looked at me and placed his hand on my shoulder, without saying a word. This kind of gestures I call little miracles and this person knew exactly how I was feeling, great isn't it? My little joke to my family, about the soul, was something I just spoke out of the blue, without thinking, but I realised afterwards that is was exactly true, for me.
I wish you lots of vitamin L in your work, Ammin!

[conk]

They say there is a crazy person in every group. It must not be true. I've looked around and I don't see one in my group. ;)

It breaks my heart to read about young kids being prescribed dangerous chemicals to treat some made up disease. These drugs alter the brain in terrible ways. Who knows if it's reversible. The disease mongering Medical Mafia must be exposed to all.

[Fredkc]

They say there is a crazy person in every group.

Well, I do try to get around... thanks for asking.

Fred

[illuminate]

‘But I don’t want to go among mad people,’ Alice remarked.

‘Oh, you can’t help that,’ said the Cat: ‘we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.’

‘How do you know I’m mad?’ said Alice.

‘You must be,’ said the Cat, ‘or you wouldn’t have come here.'

Lewis Carroll—Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland

[Fredkc]

"See how Illuminate continues to struggle to get out of her straight jacket? She must be crazy." ;)

[illuminate]

"See how Illuminate continues to struggle to get out of her straight jacket? She must be crazy." ;)

Hey there Fred... for your information, I got out that straight jacket WEEKS ago :p
and of course I'm crazy... crazy in love! :love:

[Fredkc]

crazy in love!
:lock1:
Good for you!
:hippie: Fred

[Victoria Tintagel]

Quote from Conk: It breaks my heart to read about young kids being prescribed dangerous chemicals to treat some made up disease. These drugs alter the brain in terrible ways. Who knows if it's reversible. The disease mongering Medical Mafia must be exposed to all.

Hi Conk, I agree with you that the children of today suffer lots of "alien" stuff in their bodies, like the vaccinations they receive in greater numbers, nowadays. I am a Nanny and a healthfood consultant, I live in Holland. I know about a doctor who treats children to clean their system. He can measure the amount of toxicity of the vaccins and helps children to heal, many of them diagnosed with autism and adhd. Immdediately following the H1N1 Swine Flu vaccinations, lots of children were having dizzy spells and convulsions in their brains. Many doctors in hospitals have witnessed this, but they were obliged to report on side effects only when a life threatening symptom occurred, after this Swine Flu vaccination. Well, well, well, isn't that a shame? The literal meaning of doctor is educator, from the latin educare. If doctors don't educate, we have to educate ourselves, don't you think. Be well and good health, Conk!

This is the oath that doctors take when finishing their study:
The Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.




Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.

[Celine]

Thank you tintangelcave.. i have always wondered what exactly was the oath..

I find it interesting that the first one is about honoring other "scientists"..

Many times ive been told...The act of healing is not about the healer but about the patient...

[MargueriteBee]

We are all mentally ill to some degree on this war torn planet. Awakening is the process of regaining our sanity, IMO.

[Celine]

some loose theire sanity..when they see the world tru clear eyes...

[frank samuel]

Anybody who thinks he or she is sane on this mad planet of ill emotionally equip human beings raise your hand . Is easy to point fingers at others we can do that our entire lives, neglecting at the same time to face our own shortcomings. Is funny how when we have a misunderstandings with other humans instead of kissing and making up carry a grudge for the longest time. Let the time for healing in this globe begin. When I devalue others I am poisoning my own heart and soul. Lets turn this around by being more tolerant, patient, compassionate, forgiving and loving towards one another. After all we are all a little insane in the membrane.:crazy_pilot:

Many many blessings to all.:thumb::wub::grouphug:

[Celine]

it is hard to leave room for healing when the heart is filled with lack of trust..

Either to the self or to the surroundings.

[Lovepromoter]

R.D. Laing said " By the time the new human being is fifteen or so, we are left with a being like ourselves, a half-crazed creature more or less adjusted to a mad world. This is normality in our present age."

nuff said

[Celine]

Normality...only means to be part of the norm..

When i look around, quite frankly, i am very glad not to be part of the norm

Some wish to follow paths that lead them down the same road over and over again.

Such a pointless waste of time, i prefer to grow and learn

[Celine]

I am posting in this thread because I was attcked tonight in a private message by a member here, and as well attacked by another member the other day for being Bi polar

I am not ashamed of this disorder...but i am ashamed of how some people react to it.

This thread might explain to some who were dragged into the dramatic attack, as well as open the discussion to all , why some people feel the need to attack other peoples weaknesses.


I sit here tonight with a broken heart... it cares not whether others find it "pathetic" or " a liability"

We are all human beings here... we all hurt..

What ever wrongs i have done i am sorry.... please...i beg of you...i have suffered enough...

[Beth]

Much love to you Celine, please feel the love I and others have for you. You are a wonderful soul! :hug:

[BrianEn]

I have had my own struggles with being attacked for the state of my mental health. It only shows the state of the minds of those attacking.

[Icecold]

:kiss: Celine.

I like you the way you are Celine.

[Northern Boy]

Normality...only means to be part of the norm..

When i look around, quite frankly, i am very glad not to be part of the norm

Some wish to follow paths that lead them down the same road over and over again.

Such a pointless waste of time, i prefer to grow and learn


Not trying to take away from your post C its just the word Normal reminded me of a video preview I`d seen

Normal isn`t an answer its an Opinion

In todays society Normal has become very expensive to maintain and could well be seen as counterproductive '''''''''''''slip over and preview the film at the link below

http://www.wondereveryday.com/twn.html

[modwiz]

If Jorr were here he would give us all love and carrots. I miss mine.

Kisses to Celine for all she gives to us.

[giovonni]

Everyone i know (and i mean everyone), is going through tough emotional stress these days. It's best to try and stay focused on the moment and let everything else take care of itself.

[thewebkid]

David Wolfe says all mental illness is due to parasites and calcification. I have gotten into the zapper and a decalcification protocol that has really shifted my consciousness. I think he is right.
glYScsxzLVY

I take healthforce nutritionals zeolite, msm (16000 mg/day), and use a zapper (google terminator zapper). Lost tons of weight - increased vitality. Clearer mind. It's only been since early January, but I am pretty convinced so far.

Part 2 is where he starts to get into it. But start here:
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Last time I posted this, I got lots of personal messages about zappers. You can buy the Don Croft version or get the tendollarzapper.com version. Super cheap, and transformative.

I would be curious how someone with bipolar responds to the protocol...

Ron

[myrm]

Big business. People used for profit and if it wasn't profitable our government would just ignore them like they ignore homeless people and incarcerate them sad to say I have first hand experience. http://www.cchr.org

[Anchor]

I sit here tonight with a broken heart... it cares not whether others find it "pathetic" or " a liability"

The unsolicited judgement of others is worthless. Your heart is stronger than you give it credit for.

But you still get upset - and this is sad to read.

I want to share these words, in the hope that you and anyone else who cares to see them can see the profound wisdom within them in this context.


There is suffering involved in each door you open in life, wherever you look, in whatever land, in whatever subject you find that those who would be true servants have made tremendous sacrifices, even unto giving up the life for others. You find people in each situation whose heart has remained open regardless of the circumstances. And you feel the strength of inspiration from those entities, those people who make the news for a day or two because they have leapt into the water and saved five people before they drowned or went into a prison and released the prisoners, paying with their lives. And these stories touch deeply within your being and let you know of the depth and profundity of love that you have within you and [that] resonates and exalts and expresses the light and joy for knowing the beauty of those spirits and their great gifts.

But we say to you that there are many, many millions more whose sacrifices and suffering you never see, for they suffer emotionally, and mentally, and spiritually, bearing witness to love, being givers of light regardless of the circumstances that would fell a lesser being. And each of you has opportunity after opportunity to meet situations without fear, to open to any catalyst whether it seems positive or painful. The faith to remain steady is to be prized for there is in steadiness a vision, clear sight, and in persistence of openness, healing and forgiveness. And these do not come from you, for from you can come very little until you run completely out.

These things must come through your channel. You simply have to allow that channel within not to get clogged up with the lower energy concerns. If we could leave one thought with you this day it would be not to despise your lower self but to love, support, respect and make allowances for the instinctual behavior, the needful behavior of that being that you are, part animal, part angel, and rather a hash between the two, holding you together. Love, care for, and nurse this physical vehicle of yours. Know that this is the building wherein the Creator now lives, and the ground on which you stand, or upon which you sit, is holy ground; not somewhere else, not when you were better, but now, exactly as you are. This is your moment of holiness, and all moments are potentially sanctified, and what sanctifies but the recognition of love in all things.

We do not want you to think that we consider this easy. We do not. We remember most keenly being in third density, living without the memory of things as they really are, and having only that yearning of desire and that movement of faith to rely upon. In this you are wise to encourage relationships with those who have the same concerns, for the gift of one entity to another, both being spiritually concerned, is the gift of the clear mirror that lets the other self see what it is doing, how it is coming across. You cannot see yourself. You must depend upon others to help you, and this is profoundly the work of third density.

You must depend upon others to help you, and this is profoundly the work of third density.

I hope that we can be of assistance, and all the love and compassion I can muster writing this is focussed your way.

John..

PS: The quoted material is an extract of a channeling done by LLResearch. The transcript is available -> here (http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1997/1997_0119.aspx) <-

[pickle]

I am posting in this thread because I was attcked tonight in a private message by a member here, and as well attacked by another member the other day for being Bi polar

I am not ashamed of this disorder...but i am ashamed of how some people react to it.

This thread might explain to some who were dragged into the dramatic attack, as well as open the discussion to all , why some people feel the need to attack other peoples weaknesses.


I sit here tonight with a broken heart... it cares not whether others find it "pathetic" or " a liability"

We are all human beings here... we all hurt..

What ever wrongs i have done i am sorry.... please...i beg of you...i have suffered enough...


A little deep in the thread Celine, but I hope this reaches you.

Now the wrong side of *cough*ifty, I sometimes look back at the terrible mistakes I made through not being able to control each end of the spectrum Bipolar can sometimes throw at us; the tidal waves of sadness and elation (or whatever is prevelant for each of us with this) in particular. Don't feel or think anything about those that have something untoward to say to you, just know that there are parts of the Bipolar jigsaw that are well worth keeping ;-)

Those that throw some nasty vibes your way and attack others weaknesses? Meh...., they make this place less intimidating for me (an Avalon-newbie), I'm of the opinion that those that do that, need to imagine saying those things face to face, not hiding behind the shirt-tails of a forum profile. May the flees of a thousand camels infect their armpits ;)

One last thing Celine. If I had to pick one element of what being Bipolar has done for me, it's that I can deal with anything life throws my way. So can you. Keep 'yer chin up, smile, and be proud of yourself.


Peace and love to you.

Pickle

[sygh]

Can I ask that you all fly to Melbourne and stand in line, because I think I am way behind in my hug count. Thank you advance.

:grouphug: X's & O's

[sygh]

Dearest Celine,

Nature is calling you. The air is crisp, the day grows longer. The trees sleep rem, dreaming of a soft word, a song to rouse them ever so slightly from their winter slumber. Speak to the land with a language of your own making.

Used to live in Aurora, Colorado for a time, close to Cherry Creek. It was a 5 mile reserve - high chaparral. Used to take my dogs running there; everybody did, horses too. First time I saw the place was the end of August. Not much water running through the creek at that time, so-ooo, I called it Dry Dog Gulch. Never knew a dog to pee in water, but one of mine did. Anywho, me and the boys used to take off running on this dirt path, and on this path were prarie dogs (yet another reason for the name). Most every time I ran, there they were standing like sentinals, and those darned prarie dogs would just hoot at me, as I ran by. It always sounded like they were laughin' at me, or making praire dog jokes at my expense. Of course, in reality, those were the lookouts hooting warning signals to the others.

In September and early October, the few baren trees would fill to the brim with black birds at dusk. They reminded me of black leaves. And the sound of them talking, as they settled down for the night, was like a symphony. Oh yeah, no offence but the dirt in Aurora, CO, that was THE nastiest smelling dirt I have ever smelled anywhere else on this earth, so far.

I just wanted to tell you a story to lighten your spirit. We've been fragmented in a lot of different ways. Love. Always love.

[Maria Stade]

Dear Celine the world is sick and your system is with it.

Love your self !

You are the divine spark in this dark time.

Mother earth has been calling your name and have the medicin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoSHh_zF4eo

Love your self NOW

Big Varm HUG :hug: of LOVE !

Namaste


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41xuS84tYAM

[greybeard]

Celine.
This too shall pass.
Clouds can only hide the sun for a short time.
I have sent Pm
Chris

[Celine]

Can I ask that you all fly to Melbourne and stand in line, because I think I am way behind in my hug count. Thank you advance.

:grouphug: X's & O's


This is a great place to come for hugs...


Beth: Thank you it is good to be reminded with words :)

Modwiz: i like carrots and kisses..thank you.

Giovonni: Great advice, i will take it to heart.

John: Never have your words resounded as loudly in my heart as they do today...Your kindness and respect for Richard and I has gone beyond what any cyber world could offer. Thank you.

Pickle: HAHAHAHA!!!! thank you for that laugh... wow...fleas in armpits...who would have guessed!!

Sygh: yes...it is calling... and thank you for painting such a perfect picture

Maria: Oh yes i can smell her waking up already... the flowers ha e almost ended their dreams...

Greybeard: /my friend... you have been one of the pillars that have kept my going, from my heart to yours...i love you.

[Maria Stade]

A message to you and every one !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5PLdIns4aw

:grouphug:

[Flash]

Here my little take on it

I have not work with people with mental illness, nor have I been.... yes I have been depressed. I also have/had a regular intelligence child but learning disabled (aphasia in English, dysphasia in French) with gross and fine muscular problems and attention deficit disorder.

You cannot (or may be you can) imagine how much difference balanced nutrition adressing specific imbalances (has to be studied and blood/urine/other tests taken) makes a difference when corrected. As well as sun, air, sport. It is just incredible. Correcting the body first allows to reach the mind and then correct it if needed. All this with abundant love, needless to say.

However, that love is and has to be unconditional. If it gets better good, if not, well, we try something else with patience. Huge success with my daughter. Only a very trained eye/ear can now see that she ever had something (still slightly has). No more ritalin, no more appearant muscular problems - although a tiny bit - almost no more learning disabilities, and a vibrant happy, creative teenager. With lots lots of work, helping the body first, and love.

Therefore, to me, a lot of mental illness may stem from unrecognised awakening kundalini, which would require love and time, while others may stem from karma.

But also mostly a hugefull lot stems from unrecognised chemical imbalance, due to poor nutrition, poor nutrient body absorption, sickness, disease caught somewhere, and mostly intoxications of all kinds (chemical, water, etc.)etc. All these could be helped with love, but wow does it help when correcting the bio-chemical imbalance.

I am a proponent for helping nature that has problem to help itself when it can't naturally (because of previous destruction, genetic or otherwise).

For example, I have been very depressed since last fall (it started before though). I had a huge change in my work environment (lost quite a lot in some ways, but gained some peace), I would find myself often alone at home (me working crazy hours before), etc etc. Thought: um .. quite depressed. Everyone tought it was because of the job.

But guess what: I took a blood test in october, saw the doctor last week and voilà, my blood iron was at zero. No wonder I felt depressed with no taste for nothing. I have been taking supplements for a few days and today I am starting to feel the difference. Did my iron decrease because I was depressed or I was depressed because the iron was absent. The hen or the egg. Starting with the biological helps.

Of course I will check the physical and spiritual source (we make things happen to us, no!) but having the body recuperating helps a lot. Love would not have changed the fact that the body could not repair itself at the moment.

I think that a lot of help could be given with natural remedies to mental disease sufferers as well. We still have to scientifically understand better what is going on, as well as increase our power of love.

LOVE to you all

[Maria Stade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZjUgRjbTYY&feature=related

[Flash]

I am posting in this thread because I was attcked tonight in a private message by a member here, and as well attacked by another member the other day for being Bi polar

I am not ashamed of this disorder...but i am ashamed of how some people react to it.

This thread might explain to some who were dragged into the dramatic attack, as well as open the discussion to all , why some people feel the need to attack other peoples weaknesses.


I sit here tonight with a broken heart... it cares not whether others find it "pathetic" or " a liability"

We are all human beings here... we all hurt..

What ever wrongs i have done i am sorry.... please...i beg of you...i have suffered enough...

I am sorry Céline about you being bipolar. This is very difficult for you sometimes I am sure of it. I have witness the great suffering of bipolar persons. As I have witness the misunderstanding towards my daughter. At the same time, you must be learning a lot from it. Now I understand much better your very developed empathetic abilities. When one suffers, the heart develops.

All my love is with you (that is it, now I feel a motherly love for you, you have been linked with my daughter in my heart).

[Inversion]

I feel the elite are manufacturing mental illness in a broader scheme to weaken the population. It reminds me of the movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv) Mission to Mars. The robot dog was programmed to injure one of the astronauts to slowdown the group. Operating on the premise that our reality is holographic software and time is an illusion that has purpose then I'm a victim of my own decisions. Maybe I should punish myself.

[Johnnycomelately]

I feel the elite are manufacturing mental illness in a broader scheme to weaken the population. It reminds me of the movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv) Mission to Mars. The robot dog was programmed to injure one of the astronauts to slowdown the group. Operating on the premise that our reality is holographic software and time is an illusion that has purpose then I'm a victim of my own decisions. Maybe I should punish myself.

“Love your enemy”. Most of us are our own worst enemy.

“Like attracts like”. Thoughts and emotions attract their like. I suggest pressing the top floor button on this elevator we are on. Won’t solve our problems, those still take their work, but should help to avoid detours. ‘Experience’ is way overrated.

[Inversion]

I feel the elite are manufacturing mental illness in a broader scheme to weaken the population. It reminds me of the movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv) Mission to Mars. The robot dog was programmed to injure one of the astronauts to slowdown the group. Operating on the premise that our reality is holographic software and time is an illusion that has purpose then I'm a victim of my own decisions. Maybe I should punish myself.

“Love your enemy”. Most of us are our own worst enemy.

“Like attracts like”. Thoughts and emotions attract their like. I suggest pressing the top floor button on this elevator we are on. Won’t solve our problems, those still take their work, but should help to avoid detours. ‘Experience’ is way overrated.

Oscar Wilde - A Florentine Tragedy: “Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.”

I've also heard "Be kind to your enemies because nothing annoys them more."

[Patient]

I feel the elite are manufacturing mental illness in a broader scheme to weaken the population. It reminds me of the movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv) Mission to Mars. The robot dog was programmed to injure one of the astronauts to slowdown the group. Operating on the premise that our reality is holographic software and time is an illusion that has purpose then I'm a victim of my own decisions. Maybe I should punish myself.

I have often thought that they used the vaccines to create high functioning Autistic kids.

[Inversion]

I feel the elite are manufacturing mental illness in a broader scheme to weaken the population. It reminds me of the movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv) Mission to Mars. The robot dog was programmed to injure one of the astronauts to slowdown the group. Operating on the premise that our reality is holographic software and time is an illusion that has purpose then I'm a victim of my own decisions. Maybe I should punish myself.

I have often thought that they used the vaccines to create high functioning Autistic kids.

Making a nation's children defective would be part of a plot to ruin it.

[Tracie (Bodhicee)]

Love is so totally the answer. I see how many who are interested in the enlightenment subject totally miss that one. So focused on the ugliness and scary events that they fail to see that we have won when we can reach a state of being completely in love with life and the universe. I understand that that statement may come off as kind of flakey and dreamy, but I am certain that this is what it is all about. The realization that we all are part of the same Source of non-physical energy, that we are indeed all ONE. Knowing that and feeling it to the ends if your fingertips makes it so much easier to love everyone else regardless of condition and without judgement. The first step, however, is the most difficult -- learning to love yourself.

After enduring a lifetime of sometimes crippling low self esteem it has been the Metta meditation that has been the answer I've long searched for.

I believe I inherited a lot of low self worth issues from my mother, quite possibly beginning in utero (i was the firstborn), but later undiagnosed hearing issues substantially aggravated my path through adolescence and the minefield of school peer groups, killing what little self regard i had in the innocence of childhood.

As an adult I very quickly identified that self love and self regard are absolutely crucial to life and creating a good life...I even went so far as to feel that self esteem is actually the pole star around which all else revolves and that in fact awakening begins with this simple thing because of the power of the frequency shift it can catalyse.

The Metta meditation, based on Buddha's Metta sutra - https://teachingsofthebuddha.com/metta_sutra.htm - has been so very profound for me; it enabled me to feel what it was like to receive love/loving regard and it was very fast acting...... Within days I could feel my whole outlook on the world and people begin to change.

This talk by Jack Kornfield I've found to be hugely beneficial and quite the discovery. The 10 minute meditation at the end is very, very simple but also profound. The energy of his wisdom and compassion is tangible. 7Fy8yxaAU0I.

The script is not fixed, and, even if on saying it one can't 'feel' the words, it's said that the 'mere' practise is enough. You can even focus on say a loved pet; anything, any sentient being....

I played around and created a script that felt right for me.
My script is :

"May you be held in great loving kindness.
May your heart be filled with compassion and mercy.
May you be safe in every way. Safe from all things. Protected.
May you be well, healed in every way, body and mind.
May you be happy and filled with joy.
May you be filled with love.
May you be free."

Another example of a simple script: https://mindfulnessexercises.com/loving-kindness-meditation-script/

This song usually accompanies my meditation as, to me, it is a sung Metta prayer: DzPTHstpJ2I.

In the song you may notice Jack speaking, as well.

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Depression: The Real Causes (& Unexpected Solutions)Johann Hari
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'What really causes depression and anxiety – and how can we really solve them? In this talk, award winning journalist Johann Hari will discuss his recent 40,000-mile journey across the world, where he interviewed social scientists uncovering evidence that depression and anxiety are not caused by a chemical imbalance in our brains – but rather, are largely caused by key problems with the way we live today.

Hari’s journey took him from an Amish community in Indiana, to a mind-blowing series of experiments in Baltimore, to an uprising in Berlin. Along the way, he uncovered nine real causes of depression and anxiety, which eventually led him to the scientists who are discovering seven very different solutions – ones that work.

Johann Hari is a New York Times best-selling author. His book ‘Chasing the Scream’ has been translated into 15 languages and is currently being adapted into a major Hollywood film, and into a non-fiction documentary series.

With over 20 million views, he is one of the most-watched TED speakers of all time. He has written for the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Guardian, and was twice named ‘National Newspaper Journalist of the Year’ by Amnesty International."

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