My Truth Bomb For Today

[crested-duck]

Let me tell you my true story about the catholic church. I was a licenced contractor and used to do a lot of work in Woonsocket RI. There was a nice little coffee shop/food spa that I would stop at to relax and shoot the bull with the older retired guys. There was one man that I got to know really well who confided in me about the worst day of his life. St Pat's church and rectory had a fire when he was younger and running heavy equiptment. He worked on the cleanup afterward and had accidentally unearthed hundreds of bones and skulls of infants that had been buried under the church. He realized then why the public was'nt allowed near the site during cleanup. He was raised catholic and never stepped into a church again his whole life. He had tears running down his face as he explained this to me. Take from this story whatever you want, but it's true.

[crested-duck]

Let me tell you my true story about the catholic church. I was a licenced contractor and used to do a lot of work in Woonsocket RI. There was a nice little coffee shop/food spa that I would stop at to relax and shoot the bull with the older retired guys. There was one man that I got to know really well who confided in me about the worst day of his life. St Pat's church and rectory had a fire when he was younger and running heavy equiptment. He worked on the cleanup afterward and had accidentally unearthed hundreds of bones and skulls of infants that had been buried under the church. He realized then why the public was'nt allowed near the site during cleanup. He was raised catholic and never stepped into a church again his whole life. He had tears running down his face as he explained this to me. Take from this story whatever you want, but it's true.

I got goose bumps as I hit the post button and looked at the time of post-11:11- I think that ol boy is resting easier now that his secret is out!

[Earth Angel]

funny I noticed the time as I opened your post........and I got goose bumps too........sadly this is not the only church where this has happened.......I am a recovering catholic too




Let me tell you my true story about the catholic church. I was a licenced contractor and used to do a lot of work in Woonsocket RI. There was a nice little coffee shop/food spa that I would stop at to relax and shoot the bull with the older retired guys. There was one man that I got to know really well who confided in me about the worst day of his life. St Pat's church and rectory had a fire when he was younger and running heavy equiptment. He worked on the cleanup afterward and had accidentally unearthed hundreds of bones and skulls of infants that had been buried under the church. He realized then why the public was'nt allowed near the site during cleanup. He was raised catholic and never stepped into a church again his whole life. He had tears running down his face as he explained this to me. Take from this story whatever you want, but it's true.

I got goose bumps as I hit the post button and looked at the time of post-11:11- I think that ol boy is resting easier now that his secret is out!

[G.Deluca]

there are many urban legends here in italy,or at least in tuscany,that this is very common,especially in enclosed orders,so im not that shocked

[Debra]

Wow. How awful. Was there any follow up on this crested-duck? You never forget a story like that. The CC covers up left right and centre.

See the film Oranges and Sunshine http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1438216/
Jim Loach film that tracks the true stories of boatloads of British children taken away from the 1950s to 1970s and transported to Australia, ending up in the care of different church institutions - but mainly the Christian Brothers catholic order - where they become slaves in all ways. To quarry stone and build these monolith buildings for the Brothers in the middle of the Australian ouback! And of course, the worse kind of psychological, physical and sexual abuse.

This is a very dirty story and both the UK and Australian governments sanctioned this slave trade. Needless to say, many of these people committed suicide along the way, fortunately a lot found the courage to start coming out, because they were told so many lies - including that their parents were dead or mothers were prostitutes. We are talking about children transported from the age of 4. It is numbing however to listen to die in the wool catholics who still think this is a big lie, that this was not going on. Unbelievable eh?

[crested-duck]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

[Seikou-Kishi]

There are many urban myths here too about, especially, orders of nuns. Their convents/monasteries are often reputed to be full of baby graves where the nuns have trysts and remove the evidence after the birth. Generally suspected co-conspirators in these cases are the bishops as they make their rounds of monastic institutions. I don't know of any specific cases and I as said that's just a 'general impression' here, but I thought I'd include it.

[write4change]

One of my past lives if I can trust such things, is that I was a high eschelon catholic cleric in France in the 14th century and no spring chicken either. I got this young teen age girl pregnant and walled her up alive in the base foundation we will building on. This was the first you are there nightmares I had at 31. The guy I was dating and being really mistreated by was the reincarnation of that girl. Allowed me to really understand things, do some serious reconsiderations, and move on.

I am writing this as a test to see what kine of effect it has. If it is really bad I am celebrating st. patrick's day in the cold rain with excellent old bushmill with clotted cream and tomorrow I won't remember a thing. Always works on this site for the guys. LOL

[S-L]

Let me tell you my true story about the catholic church. I was a licenced contractor and used to do a lot of work in Woonsocket RI. There was a nice little coffee shop/food spa that I would stop at to relax and shoot the bull with the older retired guys. There was one man that I got to know really well who confided in me about the worst day of his life. St Pat's church and rectory had a fire when he was younger and running heavy equiptment. He worked on the cleanup afterward and had accidentally unearthed hundreds of bones and skulls of infants that had been buried under the church. He realized then why the public was'nt allowed near the site during cleanup. He was raised catholic and never stepped into a church again his whole life. He had tears running down his face as he explained this to me. Take from this story whatever you want, but it's true.

Thanks for sharing

[Patrikas]

Here is a link to the the Canadian version of what seemed to be happening all over the world especially with indegenous peoples by religous institutions the site has many testimonies of and even eyewitnesses to murder by that have been covered up continuiously for many years

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

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[Cjay]

funny I noticed the time as I opened your post........and I got goose bumps too........sadly this is not the only church where this has happened.......I am a recovering catholic too


Recovering Catholic. Smile.

[Cjay]

Here is a link to the the Canadian version of what seemed to be happening all over the world especially with indegenous peoples by religous institutions the site has many testimonies of and even eyewitnesses to murder by that have been covered up continuiously for many years

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

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Absolutely chilling! Goosebumps and tears.

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One of my past lives if I can trust such things, is that I was a high eschelon catholic cleric in France in the 14th century and no spring chicken either. I got this young teen age girl pregnant and walled her up alive in the base foundation we will building on. This was the first you are there nightmares I had at 31. The guy I was dating and being really mistreated by was the reincarnation of that girl. Allowed me to really understand things, do some serious reconsiderations, and move on.

I am writing this as a test to see what kine of effect it has. If it is really bad I am celebrating st. patrick's day in the cold rain with excellent old bushmill with clotted cream and tomorrow I won't remember a thing. Always works on this site for the guys. LOL

I think 700 years of guilt is enough. Time to heal now.
Loving hugs.
Cjay

[ljwheat]

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I think if you watch this there is a much bigger conection than you think with all the kids coming up missing around the world and much much more.

John XXX

[sygh]

Someone I knew was tortured in the basement of the catholic church by her grandfather and uncle. This began when she was quite young and continued for many years. She was told she was being trained to be a high priestess. She's had physical and mental problems since.

[crosby]

Let me tell you my true story about the catholic church. I was a licenced contractor and used to do a lot of work in Woonsocket RI. There was a nice little coffee shop/food spa that I would stop at to relax and shoot the bull with the older retired guys. There was one man that I got to know really well who confided in me about the worst day of his life. St Pat's church and rectory had a fire when he was younger and running heavy equiptment. He worked on the cleanup afterward and had accidentally unearthed hundreds of bones and skulls of infants that had been buried under the church. He realized then why the public was'nt allowed near the site during cleanup. He was raised catholic and never stepped into a church again his whole life. He had tears running down his face as he explained this to me. Take from this story whatever you want, but it's true.


my mother told me once that many of the nuns became pregnant by priests in the town that she grew up in. i imagine, that these are children that may have been killed shortly after birth or even late stage abortions.
regards, corson

[Curt]

For those who haven't seen this documentary, it's about the 20th century murder, sexual abuse and outright genocide perpetrated by various church (Catholic, United Church, others) and state powers against the native children of Canada. The victims speak on camera. It uncovers the systematic way in which the various powers conspired to steal ALL the native land, and to viciously abuse, use up and destroy the native people. This is very difficult viewing, but eye-opening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mbjHz-9ViE

[crested-duck]

Thanks for replies and videos. You all can understand now why I hate organized religion so much and feel bad for the unknowing/uneducated falling into the trap. I must correct something so nobody calls me a liar. The name was'nt St. Pats I realized while thinking this morn, St pats was in my old neighborhood where my bf got assaulted as alter boy. The building in Woonsocket is now the cyo centre, a long multi level bldg complex with one side faceing the main st bypass, the other on what I think is main st, it's been over 20 ago so please cut me some slack on this.

[Earth Angel]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.

[crested-duck]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.

Well that proves PA is just as bad as facebook and they are harvesting the information as fast as we post it! But that was instantly done to stop truth in it's tracks and make me look bad. I'm kind of pissed at **** !! Is there anybody else willing to speak out loud on this or am I the only one here with big enough balls today to call a spade a spade? PM me if you're afraid to speak in public and I'll give you my personal email. Rob

[Earth Angel]

not sure this makes any difference to your point but the time it shows when logged out is 15:11 not 11:15 ..... and when logged in it shows 11:11 ....could this have anything to do with different time zones??

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Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.

Well that proves PA is just as bad as facebook and they are harvesting the information as fast as we post it! But that was instantly done to stop truth in it's tracks and make me look bad. I'm kind of pissed at **** !! Is there anybody else willing to speak out loud on this or am I the only one here with big enough balls today to call a spade a spade? PM me if you're afraid to speak in public and I'll give you my personal email. Rob

[crested-duck]

Maybe the mods would like to try and explain this away for all to see ! But I'm feeling really bad vibes at this point today,someone is sending negative energy at me and I do not like the way it feels. I'm going to go sit by the pond and do yard work for a while, I'll check back later today. If my account gets deleted you know why and pass the word!

[cloud9]

When I was a little child I lived in a very small town in my Colombia. I went to the only church in town (catholic) several times and I remember small square plates with names on one of the walls of the church, when I asked what were those they told me they were ossuaries for little children who died before they were baptized or the ones who their parents had some money to pay for the special place instead of being in the cemetery.

[BlueGem]

I grew up in Wexford, where some of the most prolific child abusers were trained as priests in the seminary of St. Peter's College. It's a secondary school now, the one I went to.

The diocese of Ferns is probably one of the worst effected areas. What annoyed me the most about all of the abuse was the fact that clergy officials knew it was happening. If the police did get involved (which was rare in Ireland in th 50's - 80's) then the offending priest would simply be moved to a different parish. The public were so brainwashed by the whole culture surrounding the church, that most people would not believe victims, or else just plain ignore what was happening.

Please send your thoughts to Ferns, where much healing still needs to be done. The church made a large number of monetary settlements over the last 6 years or so, pretty much as an effort to keep the victims happy and quiet. These people must have many scars to heal.

Thoughts to the little ones who never had the chance to grow up.

[hohoemi]

in regard to the logged-in vs. logged out thing:

i'm reasonably sure that when logged out it shows some kind of default time,
and when logged in it shows the time from the view of the time zone you are in, based on your user profile.

in my case (i'm in austria) it reads as 16:11 when i'm logged in, so i suppose i'm +5 hours in relation to your time zone.

not everything is a conspiracy :)


thank you for starting this thread - it's heartbreaking, but eye opening...




Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.

Well that proves PA is just as bad as facebook and they are harvesting the information as fast as we post it! But that was instantly done to stop truth in it's tracks and make me look bad. I'm kind of pissed at **** !! Is there anybody else willing to speak out loud on this or am I the only one here with big enough balls today to call a spade a spade? PM me if you're afraid to speak in public and I'll give you my personal email. Rob

[Carmody]

Maybe the mods would like to try and explain this away for all to see ! But I'm feeling really bad vibes at this point today,someone is sending negative energy at me and I do not like the way it feels. I'm going to go sit by the pond and do yard work for a while, I'll check back later today. If my account gets deleted you know why and pass the word!

I think you are quite wrong in this tirade.

I've no idea where this bit is coming from.

As for getting negative vibes from something connected to the forum, welcome to the club. I'm not getting it anymore but my current posting is not as 'problematic' as it has been at times.



The appearance, to me....... is that you are creating a false premise and then being angry about it as a form of projection, in order to enable that projection to come into being.

As for the whole catholic exposure thing, expect to get that awful feeling and pressure from that crew. That is their normal behavior and state of mental affairs.

That ball of crap is so big, that it has it's own form of awareness, direction, and intent.

It will also cloud/confuse your mind. With anger, violence.... and projection. That is it's very nature.

When you expose it's insanity as the reality that it is, it fights back, through direct interference and injection/projection...of what it actually is, and attempts to invoke in humanity.

[Dennis-G]

in regard to the logged-in vs. logged out thing:

i'm reasonably sure that when logged out it shows some kind of default time,
and when logged in it shows the time from the view of the time zone you are in, based on your user profile.


That's pretty much it. The "default" time as you put, is actually the time when it was posted according to the server wherever the site is hosted. When logged in it shows the time according to your time zone if you selected one when you signed up, otherwise it will show the time according to another parameter, which can vary depending on how it's set up. Very unlikely it's a conspiracy of any kind.

[crested-duck]

Maybe the mods would like to try and explain this away for all to see ! But I'm feeling really bad vibes at this point today,someone is sending negative energy at me and I do not like the way it feels. I'm going to go sit by the pond and do yard work for a while, I'll check back later today. If my account gets deleted you know why and pass the word!

I think you are quite wrong in this tirade. Really???

I've no idea where this bit is coming from. - You and I both know exactly where it's coming from so let's not bull**** ourselves anymore today!!!

As for getting negative vibes from something connected to the forum, welcome to the club. I'm not getting it anymore but my current posting is not as 'problematic' as it has been at times.--- That's great, glad to hear that!



The appearance, to me....... is that you are creating a false premise and then being angry about it as a form of projection, in order to enable that projection to come into being.-- Do'nt talk to me in circles, that's crap and you know it !

As for the whole catholic exposure thing, expect to get that awful feeling and pressure from that crew. That is their normal behavior and state of mental affairs. --Agreed!

That ball of crap is so big, that it has it's own form of awareness, direction, and intent.--Agreed!

It will also cloud/confuse your mind. With anger, violence.... and projection. That is it's very nature.---Agreed!

When you expose it's insanity as the reality that it is, it fights back, through direct interference and injection/projection...of what it actually is, and attempts to invoke in humanity. Agrre here too! Here's the next BOMB for you and everone else-- I've been gone over 6 hours since my last post and NOT ONE mod has given an explanation or DENIED anything I said was absolutely the truth. Neither have they denied ****. I was sent a pm and told I could share on this thread. I AGREE 100% WITH EVERY WORD!! here it is Hey there
Hi Rob,

I was reading the thread you started about the Catholic Church just now, and I felt compelled to talk to you.

Earlier this morning, I was mulling over ideas on starting a thread about questioning the intentions of PA. I found this place a few months back and it has been invaluable to my spiritual development. However, if something is too good to be true, then it probably is right? I do not know a lot about Mr. Ryan, and have yet to read any of the Charles Material. (Basically I have a lot of reading to do already).

So anyway, the more I thought about it, the more it became clear that alternative news sites are the perfect breeding ground for misinformation and disinformation. We are given enough truth to get baited, and then perhaps conditioned towards a more pleasing behaviour, in keeping with the PTW's agenda.

Obviously, there is no way to verify this, and it's a speculative opinion. It's just that, over the last few months, there have been a few red flags for me.

****

Then there was that ridiculous mess where a few hundred people were promised a trip in a space ship. This did nothing but to serve as a means of spreading extreme doubt, embarrassment and frustration. A complete 'muddying of the waters'.

****

For a group of people who claim to be 'spiritually advanced', they sure do have a lot of growing up to do. I do understand the importance of free will. I can understand why people need to learn and develop at their own pace, but I think it's beyond that at this point.

So yes, I know what you mean. I have my own reasons for not starting a thread about this, but feel free to quote from this message if you feel like it.

Kind regards,
Cian.

[crested-duck]

Ok ****.

[ThePythonicCow]

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.
When you're logged in, the forum webserver knows (from what you set) the timezone you're in, such as the Eastern timezone in your case.

When you're not logged in, the forum webserver just makes up the timezone -- always using Greenwich Mean Time, which is near London, and 4 hours ahead of Eastern.

[ThePythonicCow]

in regard to the logged-in vs. logged out thing:

i'm reasonably sure that when logged out it shows some kind of default time,
and when logged in it shows the time from the view of the time zone you are in, based on your user profile.

Yes - uses Greenwich Mean Time (well, actually, Coordinated Universal Time, UTC, without the daylight savings change) - when not logged in.

[kemo]

I once knew the vicar of a parish in Derbyshire who mentioned that during restoration work on the church the contractors digging around the church walls were disturbed to find the bones of small children (this was an Anglican church b.t.w.). The vicar told me that poor people who could not afford a burial would bury babies and children in the night by the church walls so that they were buried on consecrated ground. In those days the infant mortality rate was of course higher and religious belief was 100% so one can understand this. I don't know old the chruch was - I don't think it was medieval so, say, a few hundred years. I also can't say when this practice died out but I wouldn't be surprised if it persisted into the 18th century.

[spiritwind]

"For a group of people who claim to be 'spiritually advanced'."

I read this thread because of my interest in other people's experiences with the Catholic Church. I agree that there is something very dark going on there and felt/knew that since I was four years old when for the only time in my life I attended one with my mother. My question here is where (since I am fairly new to this forum) have Bill or Kerry on either forum (Camelot or Avalon) made claims about being spiritually advanced? I have tried to spend as much time as I can going back through all the threads and have not seen that. I have also watched the majority, although certainly not all, of the interviews. There are a few that just didn't interest me. That is kind of a strong statement because questioning what the truth is and being on this forum or any other is, IMO, no measure of spiritual advancement, nor could we even probably come to any agreement on what that is to everyone. Plus the fact that many confuse religious beliefs, or beliefs in general for that matter, with spirituality. I learned a long time ago that just because you believe something doesn't make it true, even if that belief is held by the majority. Although, it's true that sometimes a large group (or individual or small group even) behaving as if something is true can almost make it seem so (like if we ignore what the Catholic Church is doing that somehow means it isn't happening). I also know that I personally use certain systems of understanding to analyze any given situation in my life to further my understanding and expand my perception and knowledge. I do that because I personally want to do the best I can to make choices based on as much intel as I can. I may use my understanding of astrology or numerology, or I may use information from some branch of the sciences, such as psychology, biology, or geology. Maybe even what is known about history from different sources. I also learn from other people's experiences. That is one of the primary reasons I come here. But until a belief becomes a known through personal experience (and even then it can be suspect) I place nothing, no one, or any system of beliefs in the driver's seat of my life, except in all the ways pertaining to our subconscious programming from birth. From what I have seen, each of us is coming from our own unique perspective based on accumulative experience and how we think/feel about them over time. I have read with interest many of people's experiences, including Bill and Kerry, in what can only be considered the spiritual arena but I always keep in the back of my mind the problems with language and anyone's accurate ability to convey what really cannot be conveyed well with words because it is primarily experiential. But just because someone shares their experience that may seem unique or strain your ability to believe does not necessarily mean they are claiming to be more advanced. Anyway, I will continue to follow this thread if it continues to have relevant info about the Catholic Church, which I feel is important to continue following, as I feel it is going to grow in importance to us all as time goes on. But if it is going to continue in it's current twist of calling out the two people who have worked so hard to bring this info out to the wider worlds attention and have their own personal lives most of us don't know anything about, then I will leave you to it. I work the night shift and I'm tired so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way. If either of them have made direct claims of being spiritually advanced then I will stand, well, more informed.

[Seikou-Kishi]

No no, no harvesting of information goes on. The time issue has been satisfactorily answered.

[crested-duck]

No no, no harvesting of information goes on. The time issue has been satisfactorily answered. I have to correct you here for the benefit of all ! ALL blogs,forums, and everything that's entered on the web at this present time goes DIRECTLY THROUGH the DOD supercomputers for the ONLY purpose of harvesting info, and creating profiles on every individual on earth. I'm willing to accept the TIME explanation from the mods100%. My unanswered questions concerning ****. There is absolutely NO OTHER WAY to look at this intelligently. This thread is all about TRUTH ONLY that can be verified and proven as truth! Let's stick with reality here and get to the bottom and prove who is behind what and why! Sharpen up a stick because we are going to poke at the monster and attempt to kill it here and now!

[ljwheat]

Getting back to topic:

Where in Nature where? In all the realms trillions of forms of life threw out the universe.

There is only one species of life that need a church over its head WHERE? ------- MAN Hmmmm wounder why this is--- you think it might be CONTROL?

Nothing in our known space and beyond has or will worship’s anything. Where in nature do you see a church of any kind where?

Life needs only life to exist, nothing-------but MAN telling man how to live, how to breath, how to see, how to feel, how to think.

Anything that has to be explained twice,-- is a religion.-- is Philosophy,-- is not your idea,-- is not free will-- to explore life as it IS.

Religion is the farmer and its harvest time. ----- Get off the farm at all coasts.

[crested-duck]

Carmody- I want you to ****. Rob

[crested-duck]

Spiritwind- I'm calling a spade a spade and that's an inconvienant truth that has to be faced and dealt with! That is unless you want to keep believeing in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, santa clause, and the devil. The choice to face and accept truth is up to each individual, the game has always been rigged without the true facts being known by all to make a really truely educated decision. CRITICAL THINKING-learn how to do it, and use it for you're benefit as well as all !

[crested-duck]

Getting back to topic:

Where in Nature where? In all the realms trillions of forms of life threw out the universe.

There is only one species of life that need a church over its head WHERE? ------- MAN Hmmmm wounder why this is--- you think it might be CONTROL?

Nothing in our known space and beyond has or will worship’s anything. Where in nature do you see a church of any kind where?

Life needs only life to exist, nothing-------but MAN telling man how to live, how to breath, how to see, how to feel, how to think.

Anything that has to be explained twice is a religion. is Philosophy, is not your idea, is not free will to explore life as it IS.

Religion is the farmer and its harvest time. The crops are on fire and dissapearing and we now know who is going to starve and not get any help from anybody , and exactly who lit the fire and why! Revenge is sweet! Anybody read the Count of Monty Cristo lately ?? Ever seen the movie "Sleepers" dealing with this subject, with DeNero, Bacon,Hoffman, Pitt, and Jason Patric ? If not you really should see it .

[crested-duck]

Absolutely nothing but crickets chirping so far concerning ****! We are all waiting for the truth here ! We all deserve it and want it now !

[Phoenix]

My heart goes out to those babies.

[Camilo]

I am not surprised at all.

[ThePythonicCow]

I just sent crested-duck on a one month vacation ... and replaced his attacks on this forum and some of its members, above, with ****.

Those who have difficulty distinguishing between attacks on the bastards in power, and their fellow members on this forum, will tend to have short tenures here.

Anger at the bastards in power, particularly at those who have abused us or our loved ones, is one stage that many of us know well from experience.

But turning that rage, poorly focused, on fellow forum members, is not acceptable here.

[ThePythonicCow]

No no, no harvesting of information goes on. The time issue has been satisfactorily answered.
The number one "user" of our forum web server is the Google search engine robot. It comes by several times per hour to collect new posts.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

That was just getting a little out of control , IMO

.
I just sent crested-duck on a one month vacation ... and replaced his attacks on this forum and some of its members, above, with ****.

Those who have difficulty distinguishing between attacks on the bastards in power, and their fellow members on this forum, will tend to have short tenures here.

Anger at the bastards in power, particularly at those who have abused us or our loved ones, is one stage that many of us know well from experience.

But turning that rage, poorly focused, on fellow forum members, is not acceptable here.

[Calz]

I just sent crested-duck on a one month vacation ... and replaced his attacks on this forum and some of its members, above, with ****.

Those who have difficulty distinguishing between attacks on the bastards in power, and their fellow members on this forum, will tend to have short tenures here.

Anger at the bastards in power, particularly at those who have abused us or our loved ones, is one stage that many of us know well from experience.

But turning that rage, poorly focused, on fellow forum members, is not acceptable here.

As much as I try to stay out of the fray ... thank you Paul (and mods).

This was really over the top.

IMHO

[Dennis-G]

Anything that has to be explained twice,-- is a religion.-- is Philosophy,-- is not your idea,-- is not free will-- to explore life as it IS.


I guess that makes the instructions for programming my cordless phone a religion. ;)

[ljwheat]

Anything that has to be explained twice,-- is a religion.-- is Philosophy,-- is not your idea,-- is not free will-- to explore life as it IS.


I guess that makes the instructions for programming my cordless phone a religion. ;)

Ha Ha, good point, apparently the cordless phone is trying to exercise it free will and rejecting your indecent punching of the keys. LOL

Inanimate objects are not the topic or the idea I was trying to get across or convey.

There is more truth outlined in nature, than all the Accumulated knowledge of men since time began on this planet anyway.

A truth never needs repeating. Opinions and idea’s, philosophy’s ego based thinking will all ways need some one to argue the point.

Coming to this planet knowing all things with amnesia, coming across a truth that taps that amnesia on the shoulder and your higher self verifies it instantly the amnesia of the VEIL starts to break down and the divinity we all came here with in the beginning of each episode starts to reassemble itself.

That is of course if,- we are not way laid,- or fall into a information pit,-- that takes all the power of the soul away to desolve the VIEL to awaken to the higher self.

Its sad that the church, has been the key player in this deception, and in its final death thralls will take as many soul’s with them as they can.

All life on this planet birth here hole and complete no religion was attracted in birth, Man’s shackles came into play the moment we paid attention to there agenda, church church very early on.

Where in nature dose this insanity men follow,- but with man and ET’s . :sick:

It’s a Grand design,- take man and ET out of the picture and your back to the Garden.

He told you not to partake of the tree of knowledge.

:nerd: Knowledge all ways needs to be explained--- ever wonder why?

[aranuk]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

it says 15:11 on my screen but that is greenwich time or London time

Stan

[ljwheat]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

it says 15:11 on my screen but that is greenwich time or London time

Stan


?????????????????????????????? where did the topic gooooooooo south , tick tock somthing else. this is about the church? LOL please. :focus:

[Earth Angel]

I thought it was about the church but I think perhaps crested-duck was looking for various TRUTHS ..... but now he is on a holiday ;)




Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

it says 15:11 on my screen but that is greenwich time or London time

Stan


?????????????????????????????? where did the topic gooooooooo south , tick tock somthing else. this is about the church? LOL please. :focus:

[ThePythonicCow]

where did the topic gooooooooo south
The original poster found a detail of the timezone's used in post timestamps to be yet more evidence of the evil plot against us that he was describing in the thread's opening post.

[Seikou-Kishi]

No no, no harvesting of information goes on. The time issue has been satisfactorily answered.
The number one "user" of our forum web server is the Google search engine robot. It comes by several times per hour to collect new posts.

I should have been specific: no harvesting of information is done by the moderators.

[aranuk]

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.
When you're logged in, the forum webserver knows (from what you set) the timezone you're in, such as the Eastern timezone in your case.

When you're not logged in, the forum webserver just makes up the timezone -- always using Greenwich Mean Time, which is near London, and 4 hours ahead of Eastern.

Greenwich is 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time I think


Stan

[ThePythonicCow]

Greenwich is 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time I think
We're not doing a very good job of returning this thread to whatever was its original topic :).

I should have said UTC, not GMT, above. Depending on whether we're in daylight savings time, UTC is 4 or 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time (5 hours ahead of EST, 4 hours ahead of EDT). UTC doesn't do daylight savings.

[Carmody]

It is all very odd to me, as I support the discussion of this topic. To the point that I said, in the 'depopulation' thread that I would not even consider looking at that as an issue, until the source of the problem is dealt with, in the most severe and complete way. And in that, I linked to THIS thread.

[ThePythonicCow]

It is all very odd to me, as I support the discussion of this topic.
By "this topic", do you mean the original topic of this thread, involving some shocking abuses of churches such as the Catholic?

[Mulder]

Thank goodness I never became a priest and I left the Church around 15 years ago. The Church has outlived it's usefullness and it is holding the World back from the truth (in my opinion). However, I'd LOVE to see what treasures are hidden in places like the Vatican Library!

[Carmody]

It is all very odd to me, as I support the discussion of this topic.
By "this topic", do you mean the original topic of this thread, involving some shocking abuses of churches such as the Catholic?

Yes, exactly that.

[DeDukshyn]

Someone either needs to start heavy drinking ... or stop heavy drinking ... ;) ;)

How did the timezone question even become an issue? Is it not obvious that that is what is happening? ... something weird is happening on this thread ...

[ThePythonicCow]

How did the timezone question even become an issue?
The original poster of the thread wandered off the original topic (the dark side of the Church) to insist that the timezone matter was evidence that Project Avalon is "just as bad as facebook and they are harvesting the information as fast as we post it!". He then extended that to other attacks on the forum and some of its members, which I have deleted (the **** items earlier in the thread.) That original poster is now on a one month "field trip".

It looks to me like someone(s), of some church, dropped some hand grenades of abuse into the original poster's childhood, and the fragmentation shards are still causing collateral damage, years later.

If someone wants to step forward and develop the original topic of this thread further, I could perhaps split this thread into two parts, one part with the portion focused on abuses in the church, and the other part with the various distractions of timezones, mod-edits and field trips.

But as it stands now, this thread looks pretty well fried to me.


Yes, exactly that.
That could take some work on this thread :)

[RunningDeer]

Title is misleading: I deleted my post because the title sounded like it was of a general nature. When I read the first 10 posts I noticed that it was about the church.

[christian]

Earth Angel, I understand , it's hard to get over realizeing you have been intentionally lied to and decieved for evil purposes by a corrupt organization. Just checked this thread a minute ago and had forgot to log in first and the time of post said 11:15, but when logged in to make this reply it shows 11:11- what's up with that? Try looking at this thread not logged in and let me know what you see. I think somebody is trying to discredit me on purpose to visitors viewing, so please get back to me here or pm. thanks Rob

Actually you are right.....when I am not logged in it shows you posted first at 15:11 and when I am logged in it shows 11:11......very odd.

When you're logged in, the timezone saved in the profile is being used. You can change that, if you like. When you are logged out, time and date is set to "forum standard".