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Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 03:45
After some time away to pause and reflect, I have returned to PA with a specific purpose. I only wish to find the truth about our Universe, and as such have created a specific group with this goal in mind.

It is called Universal Research Group. It is a moderated group that will only be able to be viewed by members of the group. This may seem restrictive to some, but there is a reason for this, so allow me to explain.

The information that will be posted there is extremely scientific and analytical, mostly coming from universities, research facilities, and peer reviewed journals. You do not have to be a scientist by trade to request membership, and if your knowledge level is lacking in areas, we, as a group, will work to provide understanding in simpler terms.

The reason for the members only viewing is quite simple. There will be much information posted there that would be disruptive to many currently held beliefs and understandings that are put forth by mainstream public science. This will attract many whose sole purpose is to discredit or deconstruct using baseless arguments and hearsay, which would be counterproductive. The group's focus will be research and discovery, not defense against willful ignorance or psychopathy.

Anyone who requests to join must be approved, and I will be looking at previous posts of prospective members as a guide to discern whether or not their purpose is research and understanding, or propagation of mainstream systems only. All information posted will be researched and explored to the fullest extent of the group's capabilities, and references must be found for such information as to determine validity.

There are many of you who were following my previous work here that I feel have the same goal as I, so please send a request from the group page if you are interested in joining and participating. I will not be posting this research publicly anymore due to some of the events that have recently taken place.

I truly hope with a focused, collaborative effort that we can determine what is occurring on our world and in the Universe. The truth is out there, and it is our primary purpose to find it- no matter where it may lead.

QL

Sidney
22nd March 2012, 03:59
Quantum Logic, could you be more specific as to what types of subject matter, would be the focus of the research. And, perhaps, what subject matter are you not interested in studying. Regards : )

Alex Laker
22nd March 2012, 04:06
Awww come on now. You just couldn't keep away could you? I know I can't :p

InCiDeR
22nd March 2012, 04:25
Monty Python - Life of Brian - Alright I am the Messiah
kz6Dqi3qJiU

;)

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 04:28
Quantum Logic, could you be more specific as to what types of subject matter, would be the focus of the research. And, perhaps, what subject matter are you not interested in studying. Regards : )

The only things that will not be allowed are topics that are not verifiable in any way. For instance, if someone presents information and states it is from a channeled source, or a friend told them, then unless some type of verifiable information can be found to support that statement, then it will not be allowed. This is not to say that channeling is not real or is bad, but unless the information can be proven by some means, then it serves no purpose other than speculation. It will be the responsibility of the group members to determine if the information they have has any possibility of being proven- through either hard data or recordable observation. Repetitive posting of such information that cannot be investigated will result in removal from the group.

The group's purpose is research and discovery, but without some definitive parameters as to how the research will be conducted, it would quickly become a group of speculative optimism only, which accomplishes nothing. I hope I answered your question.

QL

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 04:34
InCider- That was amusing, but understand that I am just a normal person like most others. I simply have a definitive goal in mind, and I seek others with the same goal to work with- nothing more, nothing less.

QL

write4change
22nd March 2012, 04:41
I am interested. Check me out. I am not computer literate and have not sat down to think about your directions. Since I have never done them, they have no meaning to me yet. I hate acts of futility so if I am not suitable for what you have in mind, I don't need to aggravate myself. And I mean this in all good humor.

andrewgreen
22nd March 2012, 04:50
QL logic previously you posted information about receiving massive information downloads and how you were a 'guardian of knowledge'. You promised to divulge more but this didn't happen, could you explain why not?

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 04:54
write4change-

Your posts indicate someone seeking answers, so go here and click "Join"-

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/group.php?groupid=77

I am still constructing the Topic headers to make it easier to navigate, so no information is posted as of yet.

QL

Kimberley
22nd March 2012, 04:58
marking this to get back here.... Much love!!

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 05:05
QL logic previously you posted information about receiving massive information downloads and how you were a 'guardian of knowledge'. You promised to divulge more but this didn't happen, could you explain why not?

Certainly. There are individuals who exist solely to use information to destroy, not create. I will not allow my discoveries to be distributed publicly for this purpose. I also simply do not have the time to go through pages of psychopathic comments if I were to post everything publicly. Creating the group allows for true focus on the truth, not defending against personal attacks or unfounded commentary.

Believe it or not, I have learned that i am just a human, like everyone else. All of us have the ability to touch this knowledge, but we also have a great responsibility to use factual evidence to backup what we find. I am no better than anyone else- I simply know who I am, why I am here, what I want, and where I am going- and that is down the long, sometimes dark road to the truth, where ever that may lead.

QL

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 05:57
I must get some rest, so I will respond when I can later today. Some of the topic headers are up for those who joined already. Thank you.

QL

Red Skywalker
22nd March 2012, 06:40
Not a new idea, you may have some interest in my thread over HERE: "Asking assistance for metaphysical sacred geometry ideas" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31614-Asking-assistance-for-metaphysical-sacred-geometry-ideas&p=322141#post322141).

It's not to promote my thread, but to compare it with your own info.
The thread is not dead, though it's some time ago last used. I have very little time to do my searching and updating the thread, but I still try to go on with it.

Red Skywalker

MorningSong
22nd March 2012, 07:24
I, too, am very interested in this iniziative.

witchy1
22nd March 2012, 07:36
Can you advise the topics you intend covering? I am specifically interested in medicine/health and what is being withheld, eg Phages somatids etc. Having purchased a lot of really old medical books (prior to the great cover up in the 40's) am wading thru them on a voyage of discovery. Also pre Sumer civilizations and love all things Tesla - tho dont understand a tenth of what is being said so afraid I couldnt not offer up much on quantum mechanics neutrinos quarks and the like.

I understand why you are doing this as many important threads get derailed and that can be most frustrating..... However it is sad that a specialized group is needed to be seperated out from the forum. I wonder if there might be another more open place so that others can at least read what is written? Its important that all information can be shared dont you think?
Just my 2c opinion
W

ROMANWKT
22nd March 2012, 07:42
Dear Quantum Logic

Before you disappear again, and I think you need too, to review your approach to the people here at Avalon. Your very elitist approach to all the psychopathic dum dums here would make us all thing you know something that we don't, or that you have information that we don't.

I am all for sharing knowledge, and getting to the finer details of a particular subject, but it seems you are going to work on specific subject and miss all the correlation between everything else that exists.

Therefore sorry to say that this KNOWLEDGE has already started and will be more comprehensive that you think, I have not asked selected person to take the challenge and read only 800 pages, I have begged them and I am still begging them to read this first, to increase our discernment here at Avalon.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42069-KNOWLEDGE-the-time-is-now. ( Over 64 people have already taken the challenge, and will know more than you will ever know)

If you decide to take the Challenge of knowledge that is based only on what is already known, you will read about yourself there, as it is extensive and comprehensive.

My regards to you Quantum Logic

roman

crosby
22nd March 2012, 12:20
Quantum Logic, thank you for the invite. i have accepted. i look forward to many discussions with you and the other members of the group.
warmest regards, corson

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 13:03
Not a new idea, you may have some interest in my thread over HERE: "Asking assistance for metaphysical sacred geometry ideas" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31614-Asking-assistance-for-metaphysical-sacred-geometry-ideas&p=322141#post322141).

It's not to promote my thread, but to compare it with your own info.
The thread is not dead, though it's some time ago last used. I have very little time to do my searching and updating the thread, but I still try to go on with it.

Red Skywalker

Thanks for the information. I will take a look as soon as I can.

QL

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 13:07
Dear Quantum Logic

Before you disappear again, and I think you need too, to review your approach to the people here at Avalon. Your very elitist approach to all the psychopathic dum dums here would make us all thing you know something that we don't, or that you have information that we don't.

I am all for sharing knowledge, and getting to the finer details of a particular subject, but it seems you are going to work on specific subject and miss all the correlation between everything else that exists.

Therefore sorry to say that this KNOWLEDGE has already started and will be more comprehensive that you think, I have not asked selected person to take the challenge and read only 800 pages, I have begged them and I am still begging them to read this first, to increase our discernment here at Avalon.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42069-KNOWLEDGE-the-time-is-now. ( Over 64 people have already taken the challenge, and will know more than you will ever know)

If you decide to take the Challenge of knowledge that is based only on what is already known, you will read about yourself there, as it is extensive and comprehensive.

My regards to you Quantum Logic

roman

Your post is exactly what I was speaking of when I referred to baseless commentary. It served no purpose other that to destroy or deflect from what the goal is. I do not have time to deal with this type of behavior, and I choose not to do so, as is my right. I am sorry you do not agree, so we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. I will not be responding to any more of your posts.

QL

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 13:11
Can you advise the topics you intend covering? I am specifically interested in medicine/health and what is being withheld, eg Phages somatids etc. Having purchased a lot of really old medical books (prior to the great cover up in the 40's) am wading thru them on a voyage of discovery. Also pre Sumer civilizations and love all things Tesla - tho dont understand a tenth of what is being said so afraid I couldnt not offer up much on quantum mechanics neutrinos quarks and the like.

I understand why you are doing this as many important threads get derailed and that can be most frustrating..... However it is sad that a specialized group is needed to be seperated out from the forum. I wonder if there might be another more open place so that others can at least read what is written? Its important that all information can be shared dont you think?
Just my 2c opinion
W

The topic headers so far are-Technology, Sound Light and other waveforms, Biology and Genetics, Astronomical Phenomenon, Quantum Mechanics and Physics, Magnetism, Solar.

I am sure some of the members of the group will post some of the findings publicly as they are verified. I have sent you an invitation.

QL

ROMANWKT
22nd March 2012, 13:26
Dear Quantum Logic

Before you disappear again, and I think you need too, to review your approach to the people here at Avalon. Your very elitist approach to all the psychopathic dum dums here would make us all thing you know something that we don't, or that you have information that we don't.

I am all for sharing knowledge, and getting to the finer details of a particular subject, but it seems you are going to work on specific subject and miss all the correlation between everything else that exists.

Therefore sorry to say that this KNOWLEDGE has already started and will be more comprehensive that you think, I have not asked selected person to take the challenge and read only 800 pages, I have begged them and I am still begging them to read this first, to increase our discernment here at Avalon.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42069-KNOWLEDGE-the-time-is-now. ( Over 64 people have already taken the challenge, and will know more than you will ever know)

If you decide to take the Challenge of knowledge that is based only on what is already known, you will read about yourself there, as it is extensive and comprehensive.

My regards to you Quantum Logic

roman

Your post is exactly what I was speaking of when I referred to baseless commentary. It served no purpose other that to destroy or deflect from what the goal is. I do not have time to deal with this type of behavior, and I choose not to do so, as is my right. I am sorry you do not agree, so we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. I will not be responding to any more of your posts.

QL

I don't know where you have come to the conclusion that its baseless commentary, and where you feel that its destructive, your attitude is in question here more than what you are trying to do, I have joined a group called Avalon, why are you already condemning people here before you had started, and yes I would of participated but have to join a group within a group,and unless I am the psychopath that you are talking about, Yes I will sign up if you don't mind, and my rejection would be based on what??? your attitude!!!

Regards to you Quantum Logic, as yet not logical

roman

EnergyGardener
22nd March 2012, 13:32
Dear Quantum Logic

Before you disappear again, and I think you need too, to review your approach to the people here at Avalon. Your very elitist approach to all the psychopathic dum dums here would make us all thing you know something that we don't, or that you have information that we don't.

I am all for sharing knowledge, and getting to the finer details of a particular subject, but it seems you are going to work on specific subject and miss all the correlation between everything else that exists.

Therefore sorry to say that this KNOWLEDGE has already started and will be more comprehensive that you think, I have not asked selected person to take the challenge and read only 800 pages, I have begged them and I am still begging them to read this first, to increase our discernment here at Avalon.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42069-KNOWLEDGE-the-time-is-now. ( Over 64 people have already taken the challenge, and will know more than you will ever know)

If you decide to take the Challenge of knowledge that is based only on what is already known, you will read about yourself there, as it is extensive and comprehensive.

My regards to you Quantum Logic

roman

Your post is exactly what I was speaking of when I referred to baseless commentary. It served no purpose other that to destroy or deflect from what the goal is. I do not have time to deal with this type of behavior, and I choose not to do so, as is my right. I am sorry you do not agree, so we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. I will not be responding to any more of your posts.

QL

I don't know where you have come to the conclusion that its baseless commentary, and where you feel that its destructive, your attitude is in question here more than what you are trying to do, I have joined a group called Avalon, why are you already condemning people here before you had started, and yes I would of participated but have to join a group within a group,and unless I am the psychopath that you are talking about, Yes I will sign up if you don't mind, and my rejection would be based on what??? your attitude!!!

Regards to you Quantum Logic, as yet not logical

roman

Q-L & Roman,

I hope that I can be helpful here. Q-L, Please forgive Roman's style of challenge, but he is one of the most precious gems here. I would include Roman in any forum I ever created. Enough cannot be stated about him to the positive. Roman, please forgive Q-L's abrupt response.

The reasons you both have your arms up is the reason you would work well together: you are complimentary.

This is my Love to both of you my good friends.

EnergyGardener

observer
22nd March 2012, 14:30
I've been complaining to the administration, all the way back to the original Avalon Forum, about the useless 'chat room-like banter' that distracts from the content of the threads. I welcome a 'monitoring device' to keep the content of the discussion on topic.

Too many members are more interested in their 'post count' number than they are the content of their message.

I welcome this experiment.... Sign me up, Quantum Logic.

Daft Ada
22nd March 2012, 14:32
Quantum, This looks like something that is one of the reasons I am here, could you please just state is your group looking at factual science of what the universe is and asking the question how did it come into existance, what is the space it's all in, what are we and questions like that. Or are you going down a spiritual or religious path?

Orph
22nd March 2012, 15:07
I can certainly understand why you would want a forum without all the distractions. So having only a few people able to post makes sense. But if the rest of us like myself can't even read the forum, then what becomes of the information you gather? You're creating an elitest little secret society within the greater Avalon Forum. More than ever, now is the time when information has to be out there for everybody. Can't you make it a "read only" forum for the rest of us.

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 15:16
Quantum, This looks like something that is one of the reasons I am here, could you please just state is your group looking at factual science of what the universe is and asking the question how did it come into existance, what is the space it's all in, what are we and questions like that. Or are you going down a spiritual or religious path?

This group is about factual, observable evidence, and while it may delve into the realm of fundamental understanding of consciousness, it is not a spiritual group.

QL

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 15:23
I can certainly understand why you would want a forum without all the distractions. So having only a few people able to post makes sense. But if the rest of us like myself can't even read the forum, then what becomes of the information you gather? You're creating an elitest little secret society within the greater Avalon Forum. More than ever, now is the time when information has to be out there for everybody. Can't you make it a "read only" forum for the rest of us.

You are judging me with the word "elitist", just like another poster did. I created the group after reading an admin's post (Paul), on the creation of groups to be selective in who joins discussions. That is a function of this site, and I am exercising my right to choose to use that tool. Most of our findings will be made public, but the discussion and verification process cannot and will not be clouded with unnecessary subjective information, which is what will happen if it is done publicly at first. I have attempted this publicly before, and that is my experience as to the result. If you choose to be objective about research, then you should request joining, but if you are going to use subjective views and comments, then the group is not for you. I hope this clarifies the purpose of the group for all who read this.

QL

Sidney
22nd March 2012, 15:26
If it was not meant to be utilized the groups section would not have the option for outsiders to observe (or not), so I don't know what the big deal is.

chancy
22nd March 2012, 15:28
Hello Quantum Logic:
After reading most of your material since you began on project avalon I must say that I don't feel different. I don't think it changed my life? I asked you questions and never really got the answer from you even though you answered my posts? All in all it appears that you want your own forum which is ok but I remember when you started posting on project avalon you wanted to tell the people of the world about all this wonderful information you had acquired? What happened to that idea? Did it evaporate into thin air? Now you want a private forum which is ok. How does that get all the wonderful information to the people of the world? Just as originally when you posted you told all of us at avalon that you would change us by what you had been given in knowledge....As I previously said it never changed anything in my life or anyone I know?
Good luck with you new forum but you really don't have to expound on opening a new forum...just do it and enjoy.
As for myself I seek only truth which is Free for everyone whether they be anywhere on the planet. There are no limits to truth only limits to freedom.
chancy

Quantum Logic
22nd March 2012, 17:05
I have allowed all who requested to join access, and I am considering Roman's request at the urging of another member, depending on his response. This is about RESEARCH- NOT BELIEF. They are not the same thing, as all too many times, belief has no way of being verified in a scientific fashion. It is subjective vs. objective- subjective information allows emotion to control the direction, whereas objective information allows logical analysis and proofing. If you can separate your subjective beliefs from objective understanding, then by all means join. I am considering all who ask being allowed to start with, but if I choose to do this, posts will be examined closely and consistent posting of subjective material will result in post removal and member removal from the group.

Until I am otherwise prevented from doing so, this is how I will structure the group, and as stated before, it is my right to do so. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings as to the purpose of what I am assembling.

QL

ROMANWKT
22nd March 2012, 18:42
I absolutely want to join, the subject you cover is close to my heart, and thank you for reconsideration Quantum Logic, yes I will take back my initial accusation, meant more as sarcasm than to actually hurt you, which I apologies. I have always felt strongly about truths being withheld from humanity, I always make all knowledge that I have found of value available to all, and as it should be, its up to the individual to take or dump, but I could never withhold.

I hope you do reconsider Quantum Logic

My regards to you, and thank you

roman

Godiam
22nd March 2012, 19:02
Quantum Logic, I am requesting membership in your group as a seeker of knowledge, and although I have no scientific background! I feel this group may be beneficial to me, even if I rarely post on threads

HUGS...........Godiam

cellardoor
22nd March 2012, 19:03
I have allowed all who requested to join access, and I am considering Roman's request at the urging of another member, depending on his response. This is about RESEARCH- NOT BELIEF. They are not the same thing, as all too many times, belief has no way of being verified in a scientific fashion. It is subjective vs. objective- subjective information allows emotion to control the direction, whereas objective information allows logical analysis and proofing. If you can separate your subjective beliefs from objective understanding, then by all means join. I am considering all who ask being allowed to start with, but if I choose to do this, posts will be examined closely and consistent posting of subjective material will result in post removal and member removal from the group.

Until I am otherwise prevented from doing so, this is how I will structure the group, and as stated before, it is my right to do so. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings as to the purpose of what I am assembling.

QL

An Idealist would say all objectivity is subjective. All is mind. Do you dabble in philosophy?

jackovesk
22nd March 2012, 19:09
After some time away to pause and reflect, I have returned to PA with a specific purpose. I only wish to find the truth about our Universe

When I've got time, I will be happy to answer any questions you may have...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

Jeffrey
22nd March 2012, 23:30
So this is the second coming then?

:sarcastic:

Ammit
23rd March 2012, 00:00
I have to be honest here and say, I clicked join, then I got vibes and clicked unjoin, dont know why but it just dont feel right, sorry.

EnergyGardener
23rd March 2012, 00:13
Q-L,

Outstanding first day and start on the Universal Research Group.

I look forward to learning a great deal, hope that I can contribute and look forward to getting to know everyone in this effort.

EnergyGardener

Ammit
23rd March 2012, 00:31
Thought not, honesty seems to be a thing of the past in this world time line, never mind. I am happy as i am but do wish you all good luck....

Cilka
23rd March 2012, 01:01
I am interested also Quantum Logic. Check me out and let me know if I qualify.

nearing
23rd March 2012, 01:25
For cryin' out loud.

Why make this exclusive or outside the public forum? Because you cannot stand the injection of human emotions or beliefs into your threads? Good luck with that. This is PA, not a scientific nor academic forum. There are plenty of those out there.

I don't know why you left the first time - but trying to corral a bunch of cats isn't going to prove fruitful for you.

chancy
23rd March 2012, 01:56
Hello Everyone:
I thought this new scientific forum was NOT part of Avalon. Since I have been on Avalon alot of people have lost their entrance pass for corralling people into another path.
I'm looking forward to the new soap opera that's coming.......
chancy

CdnSirian
23rd March 2012, 02:28
"I thought this new scientific forum was NOT part of Avalon. Since I have been on Avalon alot of people have lost their entrance pass for corralling people into another path.
I'm looking forward to the new soap opera that's coming.......
chancy "

I think it's clear that QL is starting a group - a function of this forum - no big deal. If you are interested, join. I truly can understand why he would want to avoid an avalanche of antagonistic or flippant responses to whatever he wants to post. He's been there done that.

Craig
23rd March 2012, 02:50
Interested in joining, don't know much and sometimes may ask questions for clarification but would like to read what unfolds.