My thoughts/opinion on Ascension, 2012 and the related events etc.

[DreamsInDigital]

This was my response on another forum/blog site when someone else asked me about my thoughts concerning Ascension, 2012, and the like. We were also discussing the connection between ET/ED's and Star Trek as it's documented heavily and very well known among the higher echelons of the Franchise's production staff that Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barret (his wife) were in contact and on a frequent regular basis with ET/ED's up until their deaths, and those ET/ED's (Extraterrestrials/Extradimensionals) had very strong influences on the franchise and it's creation from the beginning.

Yes, I’m saying “No Ascension”. It’s a case of to many people mislabeling, misconstruing, misunderstanding and calling a Horse an Elephant when about the only similarity between those two animals is they are both huge and possess great strength. Funny enough I asked one time of one of the ET/ED’s I talk to regularly about the whole 2012 thing, and he complained that the Terran Obsession with it gives him a migraine. Which, yes they are capable of getting them. Interestingly enough, despite their advancements in technology and other places, like culture, economy, spirituality, etc there’re are many similarities between us and them.

Think of what is happening more like a dam being ripped down and all that water behind it that has been held back gushing out. The ET/ED’s use the terms “Upliftment” and “Natural Expansion of Consciousness” and are vehemently adamant that neither are in anyway comparable to the true definition of the term Ascension. They just aren’t the same thing. Humanity/Terrans have been held back for thousands (quite possibly/probably hundreds of thousands of years) of years, this time around about 5,700 yrs give or take a century or two. As we’ve already supposed to have had this consciousness expansion a few times already.

They (the ET/ED’s) have said that once the Reptoids, Grays, Psychopaths, Sociopaths and their toxic poisons, and technology are completely removed (which is in the process of being done) that our consciousness will fully expand naturally. What you and others are experiencing is the early beginning of that, the dam hasn’t been fully ripped down but more and more cracks are appearing and more and more water is leaking out. It’s inevitable, it’s already happening, it can’t be stopped this time. The full expansion will take a while to fully swing into effect, there is no specific time frame to it. As it is very much event based and individual. I’m a real bubble bursting party pooper aren’t I?

Even in this expansion of consciousness though it’s not going to be the big grand hurrah! that it’s been painted as. Sure we’ll regain control/use of our natural psi-abilities (for those that haven’t already figured out how), and there probably wont be the amount of wars that have taken place over the past few thousand years (but there will still be wars/battles etc), and the governments wont any longer get away with the deceit and secrecy. We’ll have a huge Technology Boom, and eventually integrate with a more open interaction of ET/ED’s and us, and get to start exploring space. But, no end of the world, doomsday, major catastrophic events or energy belts or anything of that sort has any play in this…nor are they going to happen either.

I’m a real trekky too, and it certainly gave me a whole different perspective and way of looking at the different movies and series and aspects of the franchise even when I found out about the strong ET influence in the franchise over an extended period of time. Here’s something to ponder on, if it wasn’t for all that technology we have been suppressed and terrans being held back. We’d (as I’ve been told) be living Star Trek:TNG/DS9/Voyager by now. The Intent was from The Other Kind/ET/ED’s for those series to be their own form of introduction and adapting us/exposing us to that reality. Preparing us for our future.

[hectorlca]

Awesome post DID. I'm very much of the same mindset. We have trouble grasping that the change we are supposed to experience won't happen in a single moment or in a couple of days. I know most of us feel the world changing daily and this change accelerating. I do believe that there will be a definite moment, but it will only mark the beginning of this breaking of the damn. I'm super excited to continue experiencing 3D with the universe opened up for us to experience it. After that, I guess it's all up to us and how we want to evolve and elevate our experience to include more than 3D.

By the way, I'm a trekkie too, and even before getting really deep into the rabbit hole, I was feeling that Gene Roddenberry was at least trying to transmit his version of the rabbit hole. I remember very specific episode of Voyager and TNG where the message couldn't have been more blatant.

Thanks again for the post.

Cheers

[HORIZONS]

We were also discussing the connection between ET/ED's and Star Trek as it's documented heavily and very well known among the higher echelons of the Franchise's production staff that Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barret (his wife) were in contact and on a frequent regular basis with ET/ED's up until their deaths, and those ET/ED's (Extraterrestrials/Extradimensionals) had very strong influences on the franchise and it's creation from the beginning.

I find this very interesting and would like to hear more of your thoughts on this subject, and what other sources this information comes from.

I've been a Trek fan for more years than I can remember - as back in the day of the original series when I was a kid - and a week ago I started to re-watch TNG series, and will work my way through the series and DS9. I now have a completely new mindset since my Trek days, so it will be interesting to see what new things I pick up from the episodes.

[Sebastion]

Hi DID:

So are you saying that Pane Andov's cosmic super wave is a figment of his imagination? Please say yes-lol

[Alecs]

Hi DID,

Thank you for the post. It leads me to ask for your perspective on these questions . . .

Who's garden is this?
For what purpose does this garden exist?
Why has the garden seemingly been neglected?

alecs

[apokalypse]

Great Post! it's clearly we got held back and alot of us don't know about it...will our so call Junk DNA get fix?

[DreamsInDigital]

I find this very interesting and would like to hear more of your thoughts on this subject, and what other sources this information comes from.
Mostly those inside the higher echelons of the production staff, one of my closest friends is the son of one of the directors that did multiple episodes across TOS,TNG and DS9. GR also kept diaries of the contacts and I was told also Majel spoke of the contacts in an interview, not sure where or which one, have several other sources but anyway, the little bits that never made sense finally did when I found out about the contacts also have seen some of the entries in the diaries visiting my friend's house. The Tau Ceti are credited with inspiring the Vulcans and contributing to many other parts etc, don't remember the other races involved off the top of my head.

Hi DID:
So are you saying that Pane Andov's cosmic super wave is a figment of his imagination? Please say yes-lol
Yes. :) Or misinterpreted data or disinformation to any degree it is certainly inaccurate.

Great Post! it's clearly we got held back and alot of us don't know about it...will our so call Junk DNA get fix?
AFAIK it's already in the process, what do you think would otherwise be our psi-abilities etc being turned on? Coming into the forefront. Our awareness and abilities etc are just part of our 'extra' dna and genetics and third stran being activated.

[passiglight]

Doesn't this belong in the chaneleed material section,,,,,,,,,,,,,

as a side note

perhaps you might explain to me exactly who is carrying out this work - quote from op - "They (the ET/ED’s) have said that once the Reptoids, Grays, Psychopaths, Sociopaths and their toxic poisons, and technology are completely removed (which is in the process of being done)"

and i mean exactly who? and to what end and how are "they" progressing ?

cosmic (totally)

[schneider]

Dreamsindigital, i remember ashyana dean talking about how humans have been prevented from " ascending" for thousands of years. Who is interfering with our evolution and why can't we get out of this endless cycle?

[DreamsInDigital]

The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

[casper]

yeah right....

[passiglight]

Hi Dreams in digital.....hope you don't mind me asking and i am being most sincere here.......

but above i asked you to clarify a point for me to which i quoted you as saying "Reptoids, Grays, Psychopaths, Sociopaths and their toxic poisons, and technology are completely removed (which is in the process of being done)"

and i ask again please clarify exactly who is removing the "Reptoids, Grays, Psychopaths, Sociopaths" etc etc ?

and please could you provide an update on how it is that "they" are progressing ? and source this info for me please ?



The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

and could you please provide either some clarification on how it is these alleged negative ET's " have been holding us back " or some links to back up your comments and would you say tens of thousands of years or maybe less or maybe more ?

Would you say a million years maybe ?

would you say also exactly which reptoids and which greys are involved here and where exactly they come from to get here ?

and what you might think drives this alleged desire to " hold us back " please ?

and would you clearly note which information you are saying is telepathically sourced and which is your opinion and which is sourced from info we can look at our selves ?

many thanks

[9eagle9]

I read Andov's pdf file last year here on the forum. He made a reference to the Galatic Federation of Light supporting his hypothesis and basically that told me everything I needed to know. I spent a day reading that pdf and deeply resent the loss of that day!


We have had consciousness expansion spurts, collectively, throughout our history. One such expansion really entrenched us in the duality paradigm. With consciouness expansion one remembers the ego expands as well.



Hi DID:

So are you saying that Pane Andov's cosmic super wave is a figment of his imagination? Please say yes-lol

[BlueGem]

Hi DID,

Thank you for the post. It leads me to ask for your perspective on these questions . . .

Who's garden is this?
For what purpose does this garden exist?
Why has the garden seemingly been neglected?

alecs

You should check out a book called 'Keepers of the Garden'. It should answer a few questions. :)

[Cilka]

The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

My intuition is telling me that also the ET's, you are communicating with, have been holding us, the humans, back. Why would an ET group want to destroy the Reptilian or Gray ET group? Maybe your ET's want the human species for themselves. By the way, who are your ET friends?

[EnergyGardener]

The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

My intuition is telling me that also the ET's, you are communicating with, have been holding us, the humans, back. Why would an ET group want to destroy the Reptilian or Gray ET group? Maybe your ET's want the human species for themselves. By the way, who are your ET friends?

Your intuition is missing a few key points, but my intuition believes that your post is not a serious one. Are you actually requesting an answer to the absurd contention that a stronger civilization that corrects and eliminates those that are committing heinous acts against humanity, that would otherwise continue our denial of our rights, universal laws, timelines and contracts, would be just as likely to commit the same, or worse?

Are you trying to convince "our ET/ED families" that the genetics and state of the human race is that unappreciative or unintelligent?

Whether serious or not, you are clearly making the case that is true for some.

[Ellisa]

I am a huge trekkie fan, have been for years, way before it was fashionable or even acceptable. I used to watch in back and white, I still watch repeats! I believe that one day we will find out if we are alone in the universe. Meanwhile I think some really interesting and very profound ideas are debated on the various incarnations of Star Trek--- but never have I assumed it is real.

[seehas]

humans on earth still get harvested for energy, we as a race on earth have to reach a point when the harvest gets a bad taste to shake of the parasites, we call this the so called global awakening.

as long as we give power to other "forces" to serve us we will be a great happy meal for parasitic forces and if a outside force would shake of these parasites for us wouldnt they remove a important learning stage?

[EnergyGardener]

Yep, the list of that groups just keeps getting longer...

[apokalypse]

Alex Collier and many others have talked about these Reptilians/Greys already. these Rep/Greys who was part of Orions group who not control and holding us back and also many other civilization aswell.

[Cilka]

[QUOTE=DreamsInDigital;454947]The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

Your intuition is missing a few key points, but my intuition believes that your post is not a serious one. Are you actually requesting an answer to the absurd contention that a stronger civilization that corrects and eliminates those that are committing heinous acts against humanity, that would otherwise continue our denial of our rights, universal laws, timelines and contracts, would be just as likely to commit the same, or worse?



EnergyGardener, is there any proof for your statement, that a stronger civilization, the ET's DID is communicating with, is in fact eliminating those that are committing terrible acts against humanity? You should visit Dr Judy Wood's website regarding the direct free energy weapon that was being used to take down WTC buildings 9/11. I hope you dont think that humans actually came up with such technologically advanced weapon? Or do you? But then there is no point in discussing this because it's obvious that I am on a different page than you are.

[DreamsInDigital]

I am a huge trekkie fan, have been for years, way before it was fashionable or even acceptable. I used to watch in back and white, I still watch repeats! I believe that one day we will find out if we are alone in the universe. Meanwhile I think some really interesting and very profound ideas are debated on the various incarnations of Star Trek--- but never have I assumed it is real.
We are not alone in this universe, there is more than enough evidence out there. I just earlier finished reading another article that briefly mentions the meetings Gene Roddenberry had between him and some benevolent groups of ET/ED's (He received guidance from at least seven groups of ETs in creating Star Trek. He had physical contact with Sirians A's in the desert that showed him technology aboard their UFO.) prior to coming forward with Star Trek : TOS which soon expanded into the rest of the Franchise. The interesting aspects for me of watching the series is wondering which parts are influenced by the ET's and which ones are from the minds of the writers. The article also talked about how the real true star fleet headquarters aren't in San Francisco, but actually are in the Panamint Mountains , Mojave CA. And, have been there for 3,000 plus years so far.

for those that want to check the article out:
Dreamland In The Rockies (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_23.htm)

We have been experiencing the consciousness expansion in trickles from the cracks in the dam but they keep getting bigger all the time. As more and more people keep waking up. Which is great! It's like an avalanche, it can not be stopped!

[white wizard]

Think of what is happening more like a dam being ripped down and all that water behind it that has been held back gushing out. The ET/ED’s use the terms “Upliftment” and “Natural Expansion of Consciousness” and are vehemently adamant that neither are in anyway comparable to the true definition of the term Ascension. They just aren’t the same thing. Humanity/Terrans have been held back for thousands (quite possibly/probably hundreds of thousands of years) of years, this time around about 5,700 yrs give or take a century or two. As we’ve already supposed to have had this consciousness expansion a few times already.
It’s inevitable, it’s already happening, it can’t be stopped this time. The full expansion will take a while to fully swing into effect, there is no specific time frame to it. As it is very much event based and individual. I’m a real bubble bursting party pooper aren’t I?

Even in this expansion of consciousness though it’s not going to be the big grand hurrah! that it’s been painted as. Sure we’ll regain control/use of our natural psi-abilities (for those that haven’t already figured out how), and there probably wont be the amount of wars that have taken place over the past few thousand years (but there will still be wars/battles etc), and the governments wont any longer get away with the deceit and secrecy. We’ll have a huge Technology Boom, and eventually integrate with a more open interaction of ET/ED’s and us, and get to start exploring space. But, no end of the world, doomsday, major catastrophic events or energy belts or anything of that sort has any play in this…nor are they going to happen either.


I couldn't have said it better myself. It has come to my attention regardless

whether you believe in ascension or not the one thing you cannot deny is

the awakening process playing itself out on this planet and the implications

of what a mass awakening even whether it was sudden or gradual would

have on us as a species. The other thing you cannot deny if you see the

big picture is the obvious intervention going on and the rise of UFO activity.

It is becoming so evident know that since 2010 there hasn't been a single

night I have not been able to spot a UFO in the sky resembling a star at

first but after close observation you realize stars do not flash blue, green,

red and purple. I have watched closely as TBTW undermined and

side tracked every shift that we have undergone like the one in 2010

with the American tea parties and then the middle east in 2011 with the

war in Libya were they sided with the opposition to regime in countries that

TPTW wanted overthrown. On the other side they fought movements

for regime change in the puppet countries that did there bidding basically

getting the best of the situation. That was no mistake, but as there

grip on us loosens with our awakening I don not believe they will be able

to get the upper hand and they will loose the ability to control these events.

In the end our future will be in the stars i just hope we don't graduate to

a higher level control paradigm of false love and light like so many have warned.

[EnergyGardener]

[QUOTE=DreamsInDigital;454947]The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

Your intuition is missing a few key points, but my intuition believes that your post is not a serious one. Are you actually requesting an answer to the absurd contention that a stronger civilization that corrects and eliminates those that are committing heinous acts against humanity, that would otherwise continue our denial of our rights, universal laws, timelines and contracts, would be just as likely to commit the same, or worse?



EnergyGardener, is there any proof for your statement, that a stronger civilization, the ET's DID is communicating with, is in fact eliminating those that are committing terrible acts against humanity? You should visit Dr Judy Wood's website regarding the direct free energy weapon that was being used to take down WTC buildings 9/11. I hope you dont think that humans actually came up with such technologically advanced weapon? Or do you? But then there is no point in discussing this because it's obvious that I am on a different page than you are.

That is correct, we are on different pages.

I have observed Judy Wood's videos; I agree that whatever the forces, whether a combination of free energy, nuclear, other explosive means, required some serious technology that we are not being told about by TPTW.

I am willing to wait longer to see actual proof, including shake their hands and thank them, as should everyone else. That does not mean that I will taunt, dare they drop lawn darts tomorrow or state that they are as evil as those they are doing battle with—in the meantime. How intelligent is that? Perhaps it gives you a warm and fuzzy to join the majority of the cynics / negative crowd?

As for proof, it is helpful to look at what we were told would happen by now by the MSM / TPTW: War with Iran; much more was planned to have occurred by now, including stopping us from even discussing things like this.

Now, if war breaks out, large earthquakes and super valcanoes go off and the government comes to take us to FEMA camps, then you will know that: You were right and I was wrong. I, however, believe that considering that eventuality (as you appear to) is negative projecting, visualizing the worst possible scenario, which is very powerful, and against what is best for humanity.

For my reasons stated, I side with the minority, by projecting the opposite: Love, powerful positive energy, prayer, meditation, visualization of the LF, our ET/ED families defeating these miserable reptoids / greys, so we can get establish human self-rule as the intelligent species I believe we can be, as it should be in the universe—and this conversation is but a faint memory.

[Camilo]

This is a universe of infinite possibilities, and everyone is co-creating their own reality, so suite yourself, instead of relying on ETs/EDs

[DreamsInDigital]

Most of that OP came from my own soul memories (outside of the Star Trek references), intuition etc, only confirmed by ET/ED's when I stopped to ask them. Why do you think I titled the thread my Thoughts/Opinions ....because they are mine, and I wanted to share them so I started my own thread. If it was mostly ET/ED supplied I would have put that.

Even Bill Ryan has said himself that the only thing that will happen/is happening is an expansion of consciousness, in another thread here on the forum.

[BlueGem]

humans on earth still get harvested for energy, we as a race on earth have to reach a point when the harvest gets a bad taste to shake of the parasites, we call this the so called global awakening.

as long as we give power to other "forces" to serve us we will be a great happy meal for parasitic forces and if a outside force would shake of these parasites for us wouldnt they remove a important learning stage?

I see what you are saying, and I can agree with you to an extent. It's just not that black and white though. I do believe we already have everything in our power to make the change, but things have gone beyond the point where we can simply start again with society. This has been debated here before, over and back.