New Breaking News - 'Lindsey Williams' on Alex Jones 3-25-2012

[jackovesk]

Mar 25, 2012

This is Breaking News, recorded live on March 25th on PrisonPlanet.tv, with Alex Jones and Lindsey Williams.

TODAY ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW


On the Sunday edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with pastor and author Lindsey Williams about the timeline on the financial crash, what currency is a safe bet, and why Obama may not be re-elected due to his involvement in Keystone Pipeline.

Summary:

Finance & Trade


There will 'Not' be a Financial Collapse during April, May or June...!
Lindsey reiterated: 'By the end of 2012 the $USD will be 'Dead'..!
Don't pay any attention to the New York Stock Market - It means nothing..!
2 Months ago China & Japan signed the Largest ever 'Trade Agreement' in the history of the world, saying they would trade amongst themselves and the would 'Not' be using the $USD..!
India signed an 'Agreement' to buy $1 Million Barrels of oil per day and pay Iran in 'Gold' 'Not' the $USD..!
Saudi Arabia has 'Betrayed' America by building the Largest ever Oil Refinery in Saudi Arabia to supply China with Oil and they too will 'Not' be using the $USD for payment..!
Hence the 'Collapse' of the Petro $USD is enevitable..!
The reason the 'Elite' have 'Not Allowed' the $USD &/or the Financial System of the World to collapse yet is because they want every Nation in the World to 'Max Out' their 'Debt' before they pull the plug..!
Why do you think ALL the Govts. of the World are getting their respective Country's into so much DEBT..!
WallStreet Insider: Tom Fyler as told of How the Elite's/NWO were going to 'Bring Down' the Financial System 20 years Ago by using 'Derivitives' as an 'Economic Weapon' and was told 'Not' to tell anyone..!

Derivatives

DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO: New York Sock Exchange, EURO, Crude Oil Prices (The Indicator as to 'WHEN' the Financial Collapse will take place) is when the 'DERIVATIVE' Market begins to 'Crack'..!

War

At the moment 'No Need' to pay any attention to the Iranian 'War Propoganda, Obama may use it at the least minute e.g. nearing the US Elections if he has to..?

Keystone Oil Pipeline

Remember Obama said he was going to make a decision on the 'Keystone Pipeline' on a certain date. He did'nt he waited 2 weeks! (WHY?) He finally said its not in the benefit of America to do this (which cost 1,000s of Jobs together with $Billions of Lost Revenue)..!

The Liberty Rig on Gull Island that Lindsey mentioned in his book 'Energy Non Crisis' 35 years ago was meant to come online in the summer of 2013 and Obama has prevented the constructruction of the Keystone Pipeline which will not allow the Oil to flow..!

Lindsey Quote: "The Oil Fields of Gull Island is the 'MotherLoad' of all the World's Oil fields and the 'Elite' must bring that Oil out and the 'Elite' were depending on the Keystone Pipeline to get it to market..!"


Monday, August 29, 2011

Liberty Oil Rig GULL ISLAND !!

After years of planning and preparation, sometime this year a drill bit will augur its way into the ground towards BP's Liberty oil field offshore Alaska's North Slope. The drill bit, attached to a massive drilling rig, will test the limits of how far it is possible to drill from a surface well site to penetrate a distant oil reservoir in the deep subsurface. Pastor Lindsey Williams discussed this in a recent conversation with his Mr X . which proves that indeed Mr X was right.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKo_Nb0KmZM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKo_Nb0KmZM&feature=player_embedded

http://lindseywilliams101.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/liberty-oil-rig-gull-island.html


Obama

Lindsey then spoke with his 'Elite Source' and asked him Why? did Obama Cancel Out the Keystone Pipeline to be built across Canada? The Elite Source Angrily replied "Because Obama is a 'Muslim' and the Elite may 'Not' allow Obama a 2nd Term because of it..!

Obama has 'Double Crossed' the Elite in favour of the 'Muslim Brotherhood' and is in (BIG, BIG, TROUBLE)..! He may not get re-elected because of it..! Why then did Obama do it, Lindsey asked his Source.? The 'Muslim Bretheren' gave him $Millions in Campaign Donations 3 years ago and is (Counting On) more Donations from them this year..!

Lindsey 'Clarified' this with his 'Elite Source' and the 'Elite' are absolutely 'LIVID' with Obama..!

Timeline to America's Total Destruction with Pastor Lindsey Williams


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDppA3mMBas&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDppA3mMBas&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp

PS - Remember this: Obama has 'Pissed Off' Lindsey's Elite Sources and they are 'NOT' Happy...:)

Photo taken of Obama less than 2 days ago...

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_vertical/article-images/Obama_7.jpg.crop_display.jpg

PSS - I'd be 'Bloody Worried' too If I were you Barry..!

[WyoSeeker]

I'm always interested to hear what Lindsay has to say but I can't listen to him. Can someone with more tolerance than me post a summary? :)

[161803398]

I don't feel well and can't stand the sound of Alex's voice when I'm sick.

[jackovesk]

I'm always interested to hear what Lindsay has to say but I can't listen to him. Can someone with more tolerance than me post a summary? :)

Done...

See my 'Original Post' above..!

Rgs,

Jack

[schneider]

The most important info. was that the world is going to face a financial collapse this year, 2012, because of the derivatives market. Not just the dollar, but every country's currency is apparently going to fail. He also said Obama is not cooperating with tptb and they are getting mad and may not allow him to be re-elected president.

[ThePythonicCow]

Saudi Arabia has 'Betrayed' America by building the Largest ever Oil Refinery in China to supply them with Oil and they too will 'Not' be using the $USD..!
Detail correction - the new refinery will be built in Saudi Arabia, not in China. From http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/saudi-arabia-and-china-team-up-to-build-a-gigantic-new-oil-refinery-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-petrodollar

The largest oil exporter in the Middle East has teamed up with the second largest consumer of oil in the world (China) to build a gigantic new oil refinery and the mainstream media in the United States has barely even noticed it. This mammoth new refinery is scheduled to be fully operational in the Red Sea port city of Yanbu by 2014.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Saudi-Arabia-And-China-Team-Up-To-Build-A-Gigantic-New-Oil-Refinery-Is-This-The-Beginning-Of-The-End-For-The-Petrodollar-250x245.png

[meat suit]

thank you Jack for the post and summary,
it saves listening to hours of ramblings...

this bit I find most interesting •The reason the 'Elite' have 'Not Allowed' the $USD &/or the Financial System of the World to collapse yet is because they want every Nation in the World to 'Max Out' their 'Debt' before they pull the plug..!

[ThePythonicCow]

Not just the dollar, but every country's currency is apparently going to fail.
I'd guess that the major countries not currently deeply in debt will not have their currency fail. Rather they, meaning Saudi Arabia, India, China and Russia, will transition to the new one world financial system more directly.

That's why, I'm further guessing, that these nations are being allowed already to trade outside the existing petro-dollar system. It's the U.S. and Europe, especially, which will have to be body slammed hard, with the collapse of the derivative market taking out their current financial institutions, while they are as nations over whelmed by debt, in order to force their acceptance of the new one world financial system.

I'm yet further guessing that this new one world financial system will have a number of regional and national currencies, such as we know now, but replace the US Dollar with a new international "meta-currency" in its role as the reserve currency, against which all the regional and national currencies float. The key for the globalists is to control the nations, and the key to that is to control the supply of the reserve currency with which nations must settle international debts.

[jackovesk]

this bit I find most interesting •The reason the 'Elite' have 'Not Allowed' the $USD &/or the Financial System of the World to collapse yet is because they want every Nation in the World to 'Max Out' their 'Debt' before they pull the plug..!

Yes, DEBT is also a problem in Australia, our Fabian Socialist Labor Govt. is still borrowing $100 Million per Day and Waisting $$$ hand over fist with our Debt ballooning out to $148,545,608,506.00 so far and NWO Minion PM JuLIAR Gillard has'nt finished with us yet..! :angry:

http://www.debtclock.com.au/

[andrewgreen]

Just a mouth piece being fed bits of info to add to the confusion, just noise that needs to be turned down.

[jackovesk]

Just a mouth piece being fed bits of info to add to the confusion, just noise that needs to be turned down.

:nono:

If your talking about the Intel provided by Lindsey Williams via his Elite source, you are sadly mistaken my friend..!!!

Perhaps you'd be better off following the info/disinfo provided by the likes of Ben Fulford...:pound:

[jackovesk]

When at all possible, I like to be informed ahead of time what may be coming around the 'Turnpike' so I can make relevant decisions ahead of time for me and my family...:yes4:

The 'Truth' is extremely important to me and being...


"Forwarned is being Forarmed"

PS - I find being prepared & organised for what may be yet to come our way, helps me empower myself, friends and family...

...and it certainly Dis-empowers the PTW/OWO and that renews my faith in 'Humanity's Future' and that puts a :) on my dial...

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[Mod-edit: I moved this post to this thread, from another thread where it was a bit out of place. -Paul.]

[ThePythonicCow]

Just a mouth piece being fed bits of info to add to the confusion, just noise that needs to be turned down.


If your talking about the Intel provided by Lindsey Williams via his Elite source, you are sadly mistaken my friend..!!!

I'd guess you're both partially right. The Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus "greatest show on earth" has something for everyone, with ample deception, distraction, sugar coating, and a bit of truth, but with much left out.

Lindsey Williams seems to be tasked with directing some of the energy of the vanguard of the U.S. Bible Belt (rather like talking about the fastest of a group of turtles) toward survival tactics and minimal situational awareness that will get them and their brethren through the crisis times, without upsetting too many apple carts of the rich and (in)famous. The bastards in charge wouldn't want any of my redneck neighbors (I live in Texas, the western anchor of the U.S. Southern Bible Belt) re-enacting the Civil War when the script didn't call for that. Almost no one outside that select target group can stand to listen to Pastor Lindsey Williams for more than about two minutes, so "they" can speak pretty directly to their target audience through him.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Alex Jones is the nicest sounding cheese grater I've ever heard :D

I can see why the ill might find him hard to listen to :D

[jackovesk]

Just a mouth piece being fed bits of info to add to the confusion, just noise that needs to be turned down.


If your talking about the Intel provided by Lindsey Williams via his Elite source, you are sadly mistaken my friend..!!!

I'd guess you're both partially right. The Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus "greatest show on earth" has something for everyone, with ample deception, distraction, sugar coating, and a bit of truth, but with much left out.

Lindsey Williams seems to be tasked with directing some of the energy of the vanguard of the U.S. Bible Belt (rather like talking about the fastest of a group of turtles) toward survival tactics and minimal situational awareness that will get them and their brethren through the crisis times, without upsetting too many apple carts of the rich and (in)famous. The bastards in charge wouldn't want any of my redneck neighbors (I live in Texas, the western anchor of the U.S. Southern Bible Belt) re-enacting the Civil War when the script didn't call for that. Almost no one outside that select target group can stand to listen to Pastor Lindsey Williams for more than about two minutes, so "they" can speak pretty directly to their target audience through him.

Nice professional put-down Paul, quite impressive...:)

Of course, Mods always know best don't they..?

[Antagenet]

Isn't what one says more important than the tone?

Must be hell to be born with an irritating voice or irritating personality...
but the content of what is said is most important.

[christian]

Great summary!



Lindsey then spoke with his 'Elite Source' and asked him Why? did Obama Cancel Out the Keystone Pipeline to be built across Canada? The Elite Source Angrily replied "Because Obama is a 'Muslim' and the Elite may 'Not' allow Obama a 2nd Term because of it..!

Has 'Double Crossed' the Elite in favour of the 'Muslim Brotherhood' and is in (BIG, BIG, TROUBLE)..! He may not get re-elected because of it..! Why then did Obama do it, Lindsey asked his Source.? The 'Muslim Bretheren' gave him $Millions in Campaign Donations 3 years ago and is (Counting On) more Donations from them this year..!

Lindsey has an impressive track record but that "Muslim Brotherhood" thing is hard to swallow, not least because the actual muslim brotherhood party in Egypt is massively supported by the west (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/8061-george-soros-allies-with-the-muslim-brotherhood). Lindsey didn't specify what he meant with "Mulism Brotherhood", did he? He'll be on the show again soon and I guess, Alex will ask him.

[ThePythonicCow]

Nice professional put-down Paul, quite impressive...:)
Aw shucks - thanks :).

To be clear ... I listen to Lindsey Williams, every chance I get. For myself at least, I find more useful information in what he says than I do in what Benjamin Fulford says. But I'd agree somewhat with andrewgreen as well -- both are to some degree mouthpieces for the bastards in power.

[ThePythonicCow]

Lindsey has an impressive track record but that "Muslim Brotherhood" thing is hard to swallow
The "Muslim Brotherhood" thing was a bit of a cover story, in my estimation.

I'm guessing that the purpose of that strange report from Lindsey was to get his listeners to more readily accept an Obama defeat, if such happened. Lindsey Williams' typical listener is a patriotic Southern Baptist, so associating Obama with Muslims was a convenient way to weaken any loyalty to Obama that his listeners (also predominantly of the same Democratic party as Obama) might have to Obama.

Once again, this goes inline with my view that Lindsey Williams is being used to help keep my good neighbors from taking up arms again. Many of them still remember who lost the Civil War, many of them volunteer for the military, many of them go to church on Sundays, and many of them own guns.

The bastards in power are doing their best to see to it that my neighbors don't get too uppity.

[Dennis Leahy]

Well, O'bomber is NOT a Muslim. Like most high-priced whores, he has no religion but pretends to be some flavor of Christian (which IMO means nothing - "religion" is ritual), but by his actions, he shows that he has no spirituality, and that is a gaping detriment.

The silly talk about Obaminator being a Muslim, because he went to a Muslim school as a kid... well, using that logic: Lindsay used to wear diapers when he was a baby, and crapped his pants - so..., I guess I can say, "Lindsay Williams craps his pants!" (present tense)

The other thing that sticks out is that (even if Williams really does speak to an Elite insider), he is still an idiot when it comes to Big Energy, filthy fossil fuels, "jobs" being more important than environment... who in the hell, in 2012, wants yet another person worshiping oil? Gaaaak!

I don't know what the real reason was behind the (temporary?) shutdown of the Keystone XL pipeline, but I will bet a large sack of potatoes it was not from activists screaming, and was not from Obummer growing a conscience.

Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US preesident double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.

Dennis

[Seikou-Kishi]

Well, O'bomber is NOT a Muslim. Like most high-priced whores, he has no religion but pretends to be some flavor of Christian (which IMO means nothing - "religion" is ritual), but by his actions, he shows that he has no spirituality, and that is a gaping detriment.

The silly talk about Obaminator being a Muslim, because he went to a Muslim school as a kid... well, using that logic: Lindsay used to wear diapers when he was a baby, and crapped his pants - so..., I guess I can say, "Lindsay Williams craps his pants!" (present tense)

The other thing that sticks out is that (even if Williams really does speak to an Elite insider), he is still an idiot when it comes to Big Energy, filthy fossil fuels, "jobs" being more important than environment... who in the hell, in 2012, wants yet another person worshiping oil? Gaaaak!

I don't know what the real reason was behind the (temporary?) shutdown of the Keystone XL pipeline, but I will bet a large sack of potatoes it was not from activists screaming, and was not from Obummer growing a conscience.

Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US preesident double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.

Dennis

Perspicacious and witty with it as ever, Dennis. I completely agree.

[gripreaper]

Well, O'bomber is NOT a Muslim. Like most high-priced whores, he has no religion but pretends to be some flavor of Christian (which IMO means nothing - "religion" is ritual), but by his actions, he shows that he has no spirituality, and that is a gaping detriment.

There is no national affiliation, or any religious, social, or otherwise at the top of the power pyramid. Those contexts and filters are just for us, the slaves.


The other thing that sticks out is that (even if Williams really does speak to an Elite insider), he is still an idiot when it comes to Big Energy, filthy fossil fuels, "jobs" being more important than environment... who in the hell, in 2012, wants yet another person worshiping oil? Gaaaak!

Lindsay still filters his position from a religious and hierarchical context, and he really sensationalizes it (which drives me nuts) and is geared towards a certain segment of the population, namely the religious conservatives (primarily) You can get the full story with all the details if you hurry up and purchase his DVD's.


I don't know what the real reason was behind the (temporary?) shutdown of the Keystone XL pipeline, but I will bet a large sack of potatoes it was not from activists screaming, and was not from Obummer growing a conscience.

The answer lies in the details, which shows that their boy Warren Buffet, the "sage of Omaha" purchased all the railroads in Canada recently. That is the clue, that the transport system has already been decided to be rail. A lot easier to piss away billions of dollars and stick consumers with the tab.


Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US president double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.

Dennis

So Barry Saetoro would get his own special pine box if he double crosses his criminal gangster bosses? Imagine that...

[jackovesk]

5 Banks Hold Almost 96% Of All Outstanding Derivatives

03/26/2012

Every quarter the Office of the Currency Comptroller releases its report on Bank Derivative Activities, and every quarter we find that the Too Big To Fail get Too Bigger To Fail. To wit: in Q4 2011, of the total $230.8 trillion in US outstanding derivatives, the Top 5 banks (JPM, BofA, Morgan Stanley, Goldman and HSBC) accounted for 95.7% of all Derivatives. In some respects this is good news: in Q2, the Top 5 banks held 95.9% of the $250 trillion in derivatives. Unfortunately it is also bad news, because $220 trillion is more than enough for the world to collapse in a daisy chained failure of bilateral netting (which not even all the central banks in the world can offset). What is the worst news, is that the just released report indicates that in addition to everything else, we have now hit peak delusion, as banks now report to the OCC that a record high 92.2% of gross credit exposure is "bilaterally netted." While we won't spend much time on this issue now, it is safe to say that bilateral netting is the biggest lie in modern finance (read How US Banks Are Lying About Their European Exposure; Or How Bilateral Netting Ends With A Bang, Not A Whimper for an explanation of this fraud which was exposed completely in the AIG collapse). And just to put this in global perspective, according to the BIS in the first half of 2011, global derivative gross exposure increased by $107 trillion to a record $707 trillion. It will be quite interesting to get the full year report to see if this acceleration in gross exposure has increased. Because if it has, we will now know that in 2011 European banks were forced up to load up on several hundred trillion in mostly interest rate swap exposure. Which can only mean one thing: when and if central banks lose control of government bond curves, an rates start moving wider again, the global margin call will be unprecedented. Until then we can just delude ourselves that central planners have everything under control, have everything under control, have everything under control.

Top 5 bank derivative exposure:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/03/Top%205%20banks%20derivatives_0.jpg

Exposure by bank:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/03/Risk%20Exposure%20Banks_0.jpg

And the delusion that everyone is somehow hedged. To the tune of $230 trillion!

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/03/OCC%20Netting_0.jpg

Source: OCC (http://www.occ.gov/topics/capital-markets/financial-markets/trading/derivatives/dq411.pdf)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/tbtf-get-tbtfer-top-5-banks-hold-957-or-221-trillion-outstanding-derivatives

PS - Hopefully this will give you a little more insight into Who the 'Derivative Culprits' are and How to track them...

[jcocks]

Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US president double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.[/opinion]

Dennis

So Barry Saetoro would get his own special pine box if he double crosses his criminal gangster bosses? Imagine that...

Really?? Do you think they'd be stupid enough to do something so destabalising as assassinating the US president? Be realistic. There's a reason why we have cloning technology...

(strange acting presidents anyone? Can we perhaps consider that Obama may have been replaced long ago? Yes? That would be closer to the truth I would think, and that "Obamadroid" is merely following his script. Or maybe he's been mind controlled? Either way.....)

[ThePythonicCow]

The other thing that sticks out is that (even if Williams really does speak to an Elite insider), he is still an idiot when it comes to Big Energy
That reminds me, Lindsey Williams attempt to explain derivatives with the story of the prospective hotel client whose $100 is used to pay off a series of debts demonstrated to me that Williams is also an idiot when it comes to derivatives. That story is a well known story for explaining debt; it has nothing to do with derivatives.

Lindsey Williams is just regurgitating, with some loss in the translation, what's told him, by some of the "elite". What's interesting is that what he's saying is what that "elite" wants a particular audience to hear - some Southern Baptists and born again Christians in the US.

[truth4me]

Well, O'bomber is NOT a Muslim. Like most high-priced whores, he has no religion but pretends to be some flavor of Christian (which IMO means nothing - "religion" is ritual), but by his actions, he shows that he has no spirituality, and that is a gaping detriment.

The silly talk about Obaminator being a Muslim, because he went to a Muslim school as a kid... well, using that logic: Lindsay used to wear diapers when he was a baby, and crapped his pants - so..., I guess I can say, "Lindsay Williams craps his pants!" (present tense)

The other thing that sticks out is that (even if Williams really does speak to an Elite insider), he is still an idiot when it comes to Big Energy, filthy fossil fuels, "jobs" being more important than environment... who in the hell, in 2012, wants yet another person worshiping oil? Gaaaak!

I don't know what the real reason was behind the (temporary?) shutdown of the Keystone XL pipeline, but I will bet a large sack of potatoes it was not from activists screaming, and was not from Obummer growing a conscience.

Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US preesident double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.

Dennis For whatever reason this reply above makes sense to me. Spirituality no doubt is missing in American politics.....

[gripreaper]

Also, Barry did NOT double-cross the Elites. When a US president double-crosses the elites, they give him a public craniotomy.[/opinion]

Dennis

So Barry Saetoro would get his own special pine box if he double crosses his criminal gangster bosses? Imagine that...

Really?? Do you think they'd be stupid enough to do something so destabalising as assassinating the US president? Be realistic. There's a reason why we have cloning technology...

(strange acting presidents anyone? Can we perhaps consider that Obama may have been replaced long ago? Yes? That would be closer to the truth I would think, and that "Obamadroid" is merely following his script. Or maybe he's been mind controlled? Either way.....)

I'm open to the possibility that Oh-Bummer could be a Manchurian candidate, fully groomed since birth, through a remove viewing which prefaced his presidency, or that he is an A-I clone, but how can we know?

We do know that presidents are vetted by the CFR and pre-chosen, and that there is a script which they are to follow, and that 50 years ago, if you went off script, you got your own special pine box. Nowadays, anything is possible, yet very difficult to verify when it comes to genetic manipulation, and scalar arrays such as mind control.

[jackovesk]

Lindsey Williams (Follow-Up) Interview from Sunday's appearance on the Alex Jones Show

Mar 28, 2012

Alex also continues his discussion with pastor and author Lindsey Williams. In his Sunday, March 25 interview with Alex, Williams talked about the impending financial crash, what currency is a safe bet, and why Obama may not be re-elected due to his involvement in Keystone Pipeline. On today's show, Alex also runs down the latest news and takes your calls.

Keystone Pipeline Debacle May Cost Obama 2012 Election: Lindsey Williams Reports


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ihn7x60eY&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ihn7x60eY&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp

[gripreaper]

Do you have your pencils and paper ready? The economy is going to collapse, but according to Lindsey's elite, NOT in May, June or July...BUT you need to get gold and silver minted by the United States because it is the currency of the elite! Write this down!! The dollar will be DEAD by the end of 2012 according to Lindsey's elite sources, and you can get the whole story on Lindsey's DVD. Those who prepared for the collapse of 1929 got rich, and you can too, if you order his DVD, you too can be prepared. OH Bummer double crossed the elite on the Keystone pipeline because he is a Muslim and the elite are pissed and Oh Bummer probably wont be re-elected! You can get the whole story on Lindsey's DVD. Gas is going to seven or eight bucks a gallon, you mark Lindsey's word! Now that you've got your pencil and paper out you need to write this down. His elite have told him and you can get the whole story on his DVD. Sheriff Apaio has done a great job. Watch derivatives.

On Lindsey's new DVD series, "The Secrets of the Elite" you can get the whole story.

[jackovesk]

Do you have your pencils and paper ready? The economy is going to collapse, but according to Lindsey's elite, NOT in May, June or July...BUT you need to get gold and silver minted by the United States because it is the currency of the elite! Write this down!! The dollar will be DEAD by the end of 2012 according to Lindsey's elite sources, and you can get the whole story on Lindsey's DVD. Those who prepared for the collapse of 1929 got rich, and you can too, if you order his DVD, you too can be prepared. OH Bummer double crossed the elite because he is a Muslim and the elite are pissed and Oh Bummer probably wont be re-elected! You can get the whole story on Lindsey's DVD. Gas is going to seven or eight bucks a gallon, you mark Lindsey's word! His elite have told him and you can get the whole story on his DVD. Sheriff Apaio has done a great job. Watch derivatives.

On Lindsey's new DVD series, "The Secrets of the Elite" you can get the whole story.

Totally unnecessary sarcasm on the (DVD) stuff IMHO gripreaper...:nono:

I understand that Lindsey often repeats himself and is difficult to listen too at the best of times...

He has given out the 'Majority' of the information he gleened from his 'Elite' Source/s for 'FREE - NADA - ZIP - NOTHING'...Get it..?

What's wrong with an ageing man 'Lindsey Williams' who has been living off a Pastor's Wage for his entire life, trying to provide some kind of 'Financial Security' for his Family, before the SHTF..?

The DVD's if you want to watch them always end up on You Tube for 'FREE' anyway..!

:focus:

[gripreaper]

Totally unnecessary sarcasm on the (DVD) stuff IMHO gripreaper...:nono:

I understand that Lindsey often repeats himself and is difficult to listen too at the best of times...

He has given out the 'Majority' of the information he gleened from his 'Elite' Source/s for 'FREE - NADA - ZIP - NOTHING'...Get it..?

What's wrong with an ageing man 'Lindsey Williams' that has been living off a Pastor's Wage for his entire life, trying to provide some kind of 'Financial Security' for his Family, before the SHTF..?

The DVD's if you want to watch them always end up on You Tube for 'FREE' anyway..!

:focus:

Sorry, I was transcribing "verbatim" as I was listening to it and I'm pretty sure it is not embellished or changed at all, so no sarcasm intended, although I was typing pretty fast and may have missed a few of the nuances.

[vilcabamba]

Can someone who has been following Lindsey Williams tell me if his predictions are valid? I'm really worried about the dollar collapse. I know we are spiritual beings an all..but they have forced us into this slavery and we need to eat. What are you guys doing and preparing? food? Are you guys buying gold and silver? What if they the elite decide to confiscate gold again? Does anyone foresee them doing this? Can people tell me their thoughts on Lindsey's predictions? Is he reliable? Why are they not going after him if he's telling the truth?

[jackovesk]

Can someone who has been following Lindsey Williams tell me if his predictions are valid? I'm really worried about the dollar collapse. I know we are spiritual beings an all..but they have forced us into this slavery and we need to eat. What are you guys doing and preparing? food? Are you guys buying gold and silver? What if they the elite decide to confiscate gold again? Does anyone foresee them doing this? Can people tell me their thoughts on Lindsey's predictions? Is he reliable? Why are they not going after him if he's telling the truth?

G'Day vilcabamba,


Can someone who has been following Lindsey Williams tell me if his predictions are valid?

I can simply Answer this question by saying this, "I would'nt have waisted 1 1/2 Hours of my time transcribing Lindsey's 1st Interview if I didn't think his information from his 'Elite Sources' was not worthwhile...


I'm really worried about the dollar collapse. I know we are spiritual beings an all..but they have forced us into this slavery and we need to eat. What are you guys doing and preparing? food?

I have a cupboard full of can food (just in case), but our situation 'Down Under' is not as bad as the United States.


Are you guys buying gold and silver?

Yes, have been for the last 3 1/2 years.


What if they the elite decide to confiscate gold again?

Simple, buy your Gold & Silver with Cash and if they want people to hand it back? There is no paper trail and just don't hand it in..!


Does anyone foresee them doing this?

Absolutely...:yes4: You don't even need Lindsey Williams &/or his Elite Sources/s to tell you that. The 'Writing Has Been On The Wall' for a long time.


Can people tell me their thoughts on Lindsey's predictions?

Do a You Tube search and look at the accuracy of most of his information going back for the last 3 years. i.e. Oil Prices ($50/barrel to $150/ barrel), Arab Spring Uprising (In order of Countries Attacked &/or Regime Change), Devaluation of the $USD, Increase in Gold & Silver Prices, etc, etc...


Is he reliable?

Yes, he is as reliable as any inside intel source your going to get from the internet.


Why are they not going after him if he's telling the truth?

Because the 'Elites' have given him permission to warn the public. The Elites/Illuminati etc, have to inform the public either directly/indirectly of what they intend on doing (its part of their Ritual/Law).

I hope I shed some light on some of your questions vilcabamba...

Being...(Forwarned is Forearmed)

Rgs,

Jack

[ThePythonicCow]

Do you have your pencils and paper ready? The economy is going to collapse, but ...
gripreaper -- if you're going to channel the good Paster Lindsey Williams, I might have to move this thread to the channeling sub-forum.

<grin> </sarcasm>

[ThePythonicCow]

Is he reliable?
Within a couple of serious limits, I think he's been a reliable conveyor of what he's told. What he's told is sometimes wrong, sometimes intentionally so, and invariably leaves out much essential truth.

The key limits:

Limit 1:
He's only conveying what he's told ... which is a hand picked subset of the truth ... much left out ... just for a particular audience ... roughly the American Bible Belt.
Limit 2:
He has no particularly great understanding of what he's passing along, so one can't read too closely into the details.
If I recall correctly, he's also made some wrong calls, forecasting collapses that didn't happen.

What he's saying regarding the US Dollar as the world Reserve Currency, and the price in US Dollars of petroleum, both seem highly likely to me.

Williams is saying that the Dollar ceases being the world's Reserve Currency. This event will, I presume, be accompanied by a major financial panic, as the debts of the major Western nations are called in and some of their key financial institutions fail. Lindsey Williams is saying this happens by the end of 2012, whereas another forecaster I trust, Martin Armstrong, is saying it will more likely happen in 2015. I'll wager that one of the two of them is close to right.

Williams is also saying that the US Dollar price of oil could almost double again, from what it is now. That sounds about right to me as well.

[ThePythonicCow]

Williams is saying that the Dollar ceases being the world's Reserve Currency. This event will, I presume, be accompanied by a major financial panic, as the debts of the major Western nations are called in and some of their key financial institutions fail. Lindsey Williams is saying this happens by the end of 2012, whereas another forecaster I trust, Martin Armstrong, is saying it will more likely happen in 2015. I'll wager that one of the two of them is close to right.
Another financial forecaster who I have been following closely for the last two or three years is Eric Janszen of iTulip.com. He's just come out with the start of a major update to his analysis, at Ka-Poom Theory Update Two – Preamble: Theory of a Sudden Adjustment (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php/22124-Ka-Poom-Theory-Update-Two-%C2%96-Preamble-Theory-of-a-Sudden-Adjustment). He has been quite successful in predicting the collapse of the dot-com boom, the collapse of the mortgage boom, and the decade long trend in the rising price of gold. He called each of these major trends in a timely manner, sufficient for him and his readers to navigate the collapse.

Eric is also seeing a serious risk that the next major collapse will be a currency and bond (aka debt) collapse. Since currencies and bonds are more fundamental to our economy, affecting almost all of us on a wide basis, this will be a bigger collapse than the dot-com tech stock (NASDAQ) crash or the mortgage market collapse.

Eric is not saying when, or even for certain that it will happen. But we are laying the foundation for it, and we're well along the process of setting the stage for a major collapse of the US Dollar and all currencies tied to the Dollar, of all debt tied to any of those currencies, and of all derivatives tied to any such debt. That is one big pile of risk. He's battening down the hatches, as it were.

To quote a snippet from the above iTulip link:
What happens when the world’s largest economy develops an increasingly over-leveraged, foreign debt dependent growth model over two decades, then goes through two successive self-indulgent market bubble parties and busts in ten years, which cause recessions that demand monetary and fiscal stimulus to keep the indulgent population compliant yet weaken the nation’s fiscal position to near the breaking point, and then said nation experiences a final existential fiscal shock?

[gripreaper]

Eric is not saying when, or even for certain that it will happen. But we are laying the foundation for it, and we're well along the process of setting the stage for a major collapse of the US Dollar and all currencies tied to the Dollar, of all debt tied to any of those currencies, and of all derivatives tied to any such debt. That is one big pile of risk. He's battening down the hatches, as it were.

The amount of leverage is astounding when you consider fractional reserve debt is 100 times the underlying assets, which are deteriorating, with a derivatives "bet" on top of that in excess of 700 TRILLION to ONE QUADRILLION. That's why 15 trillion can go missing and no one seems to notice, as that much money is barely enough to cover a 1% move in this gigantic ponzi scheme. A 2% move brings the whole global system down, as illustrated by the collapse of MF Global, a microcosmic example of what happens when you get on the wrong side of a 2% move.

[ThePythonicCow]

The amount of leverage is astounding
Indeed. Someone has built a giant house of financial cards. One can only presume they intend for that house to collapse at some point ... in my life time.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I wanna give Lindsay a hug ! And a throat losenge to Alex :cool:


Thanks Jakovesk for the info, its awesome.

Cheers

N

[ThePythonicCow]

Eric [Janszen, of iTulip.com] is not saying when, or even for certain that it will happen.
I was reading another thread on which Eric posted on iTulip three weeks ago. In that post, Eric said, roughly speaking, that his working assumption for the failure of the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency was a year or two (I'm rounding somewhat here ... this was on the pay side of iTulip.com).

My current thinking is that this "collapse" will happen in a fairly rapid sequence of world wide financial and monetary crises, over a few weeks or a couple of months. Everyone holding dollars, and many holding dollar denominated paper (stocks or bonds) will take a serious hit. If I had to make my one investment change for the decade call right now, it would be to move my gold related investments into stocks, at about the peak of the panic. By living modestly, I have been able to live comfortably, by my standards, on the social security retirement check that I get. I anticipate that I will likely return to work, in some modest paying job, to supplement my income, after this crash, as I am convinced that the real value of my social security check will decline dramatically, once the U.S. debt market collapses.

I expect a new world reserve currency, used to settle trade imbalances and debt between nations (and regions, such as Europe), and often used to write long term international contracts, would rise from this crisis. They may make noises about this new reserve currency being backed by some basket of precious metals, commodities and/or national currencies ... but the key detail will be who controls that basket.

I expect that the same Bastards in Power who control things now will control that basket. I expect many of the more visible banking, media and political players to lose their position, and some major financial institutions to fail, or in the case of the Federal Reserve, to be re-worked. I expect that those expecting a new awakening on this planet will be disappointed (boy -- sure hope I got that one wrong), and that while the fall of many more visible figures will be taken as evidence of the dawning of a new age, this will be misleading deception. I expect that the real Bastards in Power, the power behind the thrones, will remain in power, after repainting the throne.

[gripreaper]

OK, so mass arrests of criminals paraded in front of us, sent to the international courts (owned by the cabal?) for trials, then economic collapse, and then who comes in to restore order?

If this is the Hegelian dialectic of "problem, reaction, solution" then the new hierarchical pyramid restored with different players at the top, and a monetary system similar to what we have now except backed by commodities (all owned by the same cartel) just doesn't impress me.

The other option considering an alliance of nations who are going against the cabal, with old world money hidden and secreted away over the last century, comes forward with the backing of the worlds military, and we have a global debt jubilee, the release of free energy, and a distribution of the worlds wealth among the people, then i say..OK< lets do that.

So far the details of plan B are scarce.

[Operator]

OK, so mass arrests of criminals paraded in front of us, sent to the international courts (owned by the cabal?) for trials, then economic collapse, and then who comes in to restore order?

If this is the Hegelian dialectic of "problem, reaction, solution" then the new hierarchical pyramid restored with different players at the top, and a monetary system similar to what we have now except backed by commodities (all owned by the same cartel) just doesn't impress me.


Yeah, right ... I have similar thoughts here.
I have some serious doubts about ICC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court).
Some people, like Slobodan Milošević, did not accept the court and took on his own defense. Something I might
do myself in his case, not participating in the fake role play. I do not say his hands are clean but I think cases are
more and more suspicious now that we witness how they are taking out one regional leader after another.
Milošević died suspiciously under the care of ICC. Was that because he decided to speak out for himself and not
through a lawyer ?

Perhaps they are sacrificing the middle management to safe the top ?

I heard Ben Fulford say how they could give every man, woman and child a certain amount of money and poverty
would be over. This raised a big, big red flag for me !!

If they are talking about solving the current crisis by means of money we're absolutely not at the end of it. Period !

The only thing that will improve/dissolve the situation is distribution/decentralization of power.
I mean literally (local owned free energy) and consequent liberty to determine your own future.

I listened to David Wilcock's latest interview. Although the content sounds positive I was amazed by some statements.
He said he was not afraid to die ... excuse me ? I remember differently from Kerry's show.
Also why did he call James Martinez a fake ? James Martinez was talking about empowering people by means of free energy ... hmmm ?

I don't know ... but I still got the feeling we're being played with.

[mexrph]

I agree. Lindsey Williams is a tool of the elite to spread misinformation to us. I prefer to listen to Gerald Celente.

[jackovesk]

I have listened to most i.e. Lindsey Williams, Gerald Celente, David Wilcock, Peter Schiff, Ben Fulford, Alex Jones, Bob Chapman, Max Keiser, etc, etc, etc...

I take in all of what they have to share and say and that's when my Discernment Kicks-In...:)

No-One has all the Answers...:nono:

But if you listen to your 'Inner Knowing' you will find all the Answers you need to help prepare yourself for what is yet to come...:)

No need to bother yourself with the He said - She said Crap..!

Just start 'Believing' in yourself again to weigh-up and wade through the 'Information' you are given or choose to watch, listen or read...

Rgs,

Jack