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silvervioletrubie
27th March 2012, 16:51
Army reviews notorious drug after Afghan massacre

Published: 26 March, 2012, 23:25

The alleged Afghan massacre shooter Sgt. Robert Bales, who was charged with 17 counts of murder and six counts of attempted murder, may have been under the influence of a drug which is known to cause severe psychiatric side effects.
The notorious incident sparked a request on March 20 by Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs, Jonathan Woodson to order an emergency evaluation of the military's use of mefloquine. The purpose of the review was to assure troops were not getting the drug inappropriately.
According to the Huffington Post, the task order by Woodson to immediately evaluate the “review of mefloquine prescribing practices” was to be completed six days after the order was delivered.
Mefloquine, the anti-malaria drug and also known as Lariam,has been associated in several suicides and murders, as well as deaths in the US military. Grim psychiatric side effects which include problems with psychotic behavior, paranoia and delusions are some of the complications that arise from the use of Mefloquine.
“Some deployed service members may be prescribed mefloquine for malaria prophylaxis without appropriate documentation in their medical records and without proper screening for contraindications,” the order says.
Although Army and Pentagon officials would not disclose if Bales took the drug due to confidentiality guidelines, media inquiries were referred to Army officials who have yet to comment on the matter.
The drug which has received a significant amount of scrutiny for the past decade was nearly dropped by the US military back in 2009 in which the known dangers were to blame. The military heavily advised against giving soldiers who had suffered a traumatic brain injury the prescription.
In 2010 Bales suffered a traumatic brain injury while on his third tour of combat in Iraq and according to past reports; repeated combat tours escalate the dangers of post-traumatic stress disorder.
Karilyn Bales, the wife of the alleged murderer, on an interview NBC's Matt Lauer said the recent happenings were “unbelievable.”
Karilyn added on the Today Show, “I have no idea what happened, but he would not – he loves children. He would not do that."
But according to the former Army psychiatrists the scenario was highly possible.
Elspeth Cameron Ritchie, who was the top advocate for mental health at the Office of Army Surgeon General, wrote in this weeks’ TIME “Battleland” blog, declaring the drug is still being used in Afghanistan and is highly possible Bales was exposed to mefloquine.
“One obvious question to consider is whether he was on mefloquine,” Ritchie wrote.
In 2004, the United Press International created a report which recorded the intake of the medicine by six elite Army Special Forces soldiers, the use of the drug eventually lead to all of them committing suicide which is a rare occurrence among among Special Forces soldiers.
In a separate case Special Forces soldiers have explained the side effects mefloquine takes on your mental health.
"You're ready to take that plunge into hurting someone or hurting and killing yourself, and it comes on unbelievably quickly,” said one Special Forces soldier identified with permanent brain damage from Lariam.
“It's just a sudden thought, it's the right thing to do. You'll get a mental picture, and it's in full color."
The UPI report also revealed how mefloquine use was involved in half of the suicides among troops in Iraq in 2003. The reported also stated that the suicide rate dropped by 50 percent after the Army stopped implementing the drug.
The first case where mefloquine's effectiveness was questioned was when Staff Sgt. Georg-Andreas Pogany was charged with cowardice after he suffered an incapacitating panic attack in Iraq in 2003 after witnessing the body of a crushed Iraqi. According to Pogany, he sought help but was rejected and eventually charged with cowardice, but the Army dropped the charges after medical professionals determined the individual suffered from Lariam toxicity. Pogany had taken his third pill right before his panic attack.
Also in 2002 three elite soldiers who were taking the medicine returned to the US and ended up killing their wives then later took their own lives.


http://rt.com/usa/news/army-drug-mefloquine-bales-500/


Wow! Not sure what comment to have on this, except that if you have read the MMS story, this article should clearly show that our military personal are the experiment and their "health" is not in the decision making process regarding prescriptions......mmm how else could a greedy power hungry entity use this.....violence enhancing drug mefloquine? certainly not really a malaria drug.....we can easily cure malaria with MMS.


Love is the answer! Always!

Maia Gabrial
27th March 2012, 18:26
Yes, you're right about the military being the guinea pigs for experimental drugs. I'm surprised that they're going to use this as an excuse to get this Sergeant out of the murder rap.
If you want to know, even veterans are STILL guinea pigs (and probably don't even suspect it).
I used to think that soldiers were valued by the military as human beings because they got good food, good medicine, good everything. I thought it was so nice that there was even a life insurance provided for us in case of death. I can't spell #$#^u&*$# which is what I think about it all now.
It's a shame that the same soldiers that protect this country gave up their own Constitutional rights when they swore their Oaths. (I was shocked when I found out that's what I did!) These are the same people that can't say NO when they're ordered to take meds without knowing what's in it or what it'll do to them. In fact, I now believe they're so expendable that it doesn't matter what happens to them as long as there are more dupes to replace the ones that die or end up permanently in VA hospitals.
IMO getting a "thanks" from the VA is so disengenuous and means squat. It means that now they can play with your health even more. Believe me whenever I see that VA commercial where they claim their services are so great "because the veterans deserve it", I know exactly what the true meaning behind it is. The VA can scream all their denials they want, I've seen the truth in action many times. I can see past their lies....now.
I'm sorry if I got off the topic, but you had it right, silvervioletrubie. The military knows exactly what would happen with this drug. It's probably what they wanted to see happen....

VajraYaya
28th March 2012, 22:08
Yeah, It is quite possible that that guy was having a 'Larium day'. That is really destructive stuff. In my travels, every single person who I met that had malaria was taking Larium prophylaxis. They got it anyway. I'm not sure about MMS. It is something that I would try but i do know that Artesunate works really well of you get malaria. It is effective against both Falcipaurm and Vivax malaria. It is a Chinese product and is made from Artemisia. There are 12 pills in a pack and when you get malaria you start taking the pills. There are no side effects. I don't remember if it is one or two a day but you take them until you finish the pack. But after about two days you are well enough to be completely functional again, compared with being on your ass, fully incapacitated, for about 3 weeks under regular Larium or Chloroquine treatment. In Africa or other places where you can find pharmaceuticals over the counter, you will find it. Stock up when you can find it. The last time I checked you couldn't get it in North America. The important thing is that you need to know how to tell the difference between the real and counterfeit stuff.

silvervioletrubie
29th March 2012, 17:44
I thank you Maia, and VajraYaya for reading this post and including your ideas, where ever and what ever they are and are going to.

I find this logic trail interesting

1) dumb down the education system in the U.S., which dumbs down the general populace (no fault of the persons who are now dumb). Thanks to Carnagie group etc. (read "Cloning of the American Mind, Eradicating Morality through Education, by B.K. Eakman", just one of many..), Here in California it started with Ronald Reagan who took our once great and free education system and began the changes that now isolate higher education (I use those words loosely) away from the general population.

2) use the now dumber population to feed the military experiment, almost like Star Wars "storm troopers", not clones...but really close

3) develop a "trooper" who willingly and knowingly wants to be of service to their master (and who can blame them...the box they come from does not offer anything, and they do not know that the box was created by their new "saviors")

4) Use the new "willing" slave to ???????? That is the question of the hour!

For those who read this and understand something of the universal laws (read the "Kybalion", "New paradigm", "Genius frequency" etc..) It is interesting to see that this thought train allows for the individual to use their "free will", but still creates a race of slaves........

Love is the answer! Always! Really!

gypsybutterflykiss
29th March 2012, 17:52
It doesn't matter- drugs or no drugs.. He still killed those people in cold blood.

But that's just my own personal opinion.

Nick Matkin
29th March 2012, 18:16
Larium has been around for some time and its psychotic side effects are well known. They do not occur with everyone who takes it. My colleague had to stop - after it caused him to behave even more erratically than normal - but the only effect it had on me was to give me very vivid dreams that sometimes continued for some minutes after I awoke! We were both given regular doses a month before travelling in case we had an adverse reaction, so there was time to try a 'second best' drug for that region before we went.

Medical advice given to me has always been that the anti-malaria drug (whatever ones were prescribed) were to be started two to four weeks (depending on the drug) before entering the malaria region.

For those not familiar with the requirements when travelling to malaria areas, the drug required for any particular region depends on the parasite's resistance to that drug. As far as I know Larium is only prescribed when it's the only one likely to be effective, although it doesn't always work, as already mentioned in the thread.

Arrowwind
29th March 2012, 18:23
So sure, give Laurim to men packing M16's and then figure out if they will have psychotic effects or not. A very brilliant care plan, don't you agree?

This guy will be the fall guy. Perhaps they will learn something... but not too likely. The military is slow to learn, to the expense of all.