The Agony and the Ectasy of the Hunger Games

[write4change]

Friday afternoon, at 4 PM I want to see the Hunger Games to see what this was all about. I will usually go to a big teen opening film to see what they are relating to. I was once much more bigoted about it. At 11, my oldest daughter saw Star Wars 13 time before she could drag me to it. We immediately both got back in line to see it again. That was in 1977. What so inspired me was the hope in that film, that somehow the concept of the Force and aligning oneself to be able to align with the Force made me hope we could stop all the judgmental religious crap that was starting to gather up in force.

One of the big issues of the film is control through hope. The President of the Capitol makes the statement that hope is the only thing that counters fear. A little bit of hope is good thing; it makes the fear endurable. A lot of hope must be snuffed out and contained.

I got out of the movie at 7PM, bought the books at 8 PM and finished them Saturday afternoon at 2 PM. I then began reading the reviews on many of the political sites. I believe that the most effective method of moving people is through art which goes directly to the heart. As Gregg Braeden would say large numbers of people sharing the same experience make a disturbance in the Force.

I was amazed to see how much viseral hatred has come from some areas regarding the race of the characters. That it is a political statement and not true to the book that Rue and Cinna turn out to be black dispite the fact that Rue in particular is described as dark eyes and dark skinned. That the black people were made to show compassion and empathy to make whites look bad. This on the background of the recent slaying of an unarmed black teen in Florida feels like record caught in a crack I have heard for the last fifty years.

Then there are the stupid critics that just have to criticize, the leads are too old, it is not faithful to the book, etc. At 2 hours and 22 minutes, it covered a lot of territory pretty damn well on the shoulders of really fine young actors. There is no narration and no intense exploration of personal thoughts and feelings that is the strength and foundation of the book.

The third objection often voiced by "superior parents" is that it is violence porn and they are not subjecting themselves or their kids to it. Porn is gratuitious. Art is profound. This is art.

It is typical of America that we can produce something that is good art, an exciting read, and entertaining movie that is both poignant and profound and then ignore what makes it so.

I wonder what the kids are responding to because this young where I am in South Los Angeles many of them are inarticulate. They are often poor readers. So seeing the film is bringing them up to speed of what they have been hearing about for 3 years.

Tonight I went back and watched the movie again having read the books and knowing what is there and what to expect. I find the criticisms invalid. I was hoping seeing it again would bring some kind of resolution for me and I could stop thinking about it. And I cannot.

It is my hope that writing about this will be cathardic and I will have at least done my job about saying this I have seen, this I have done, this I regret, and can I redeem myself and my country in some way.

I may be totally biased about everything I have written because at 67, Katness Everdeen in many ways is me. She believed her lying eyes and never swallowed the propaganda and I did not. She fought back and I did not.

We are living the Hunger Games -- the 99% vs. the 1% with a ten percent of the population who supports that 1% and gives them control. Can we face this clearly and change without destroying everything.

Because in the past you cannot wirte too much I will do this in sections.

[Realeyes]

My 14 year old daughter is a reluctant reader - that is until she heard about the 'Hunger Games' books - she became rivetted. She was so excited, she even did jobs around the house to earn money to purchase the next 2 books!

For her, this story changed her whole perception of how life is 'ordered' here on Earth - "mum", she kept saying, '"you have to read these books, it fits in with all that you talk about going on behind the scenes in this world". I am sure, if by the huge interests these books have had with her peers at school, this is really changing young minds perceptions - and that has to be a very good thing raising conscious awareness.

The film has just come out here in the UK, and when she has finished her week's work experience, she has demanded that I go with her to the flicks and see this film. smile.

[write4change]

Art has always had the power to change the world because it speaks to the heart with feeling that needs no words. One of the things Maslow said about art is that across all cultures and classes regardless--great art is recognized. It may not be totally understood but it is SEEN or HEARD, or FELT for what it is.

In 1899 an American school teacher, Edmund Markam (1852-1940) was inspired by a painting to write a poem. The painting was "L'hommer a la houre" by the French artish, Jean Millet (1814-1875) the poem was "The Man with the Hoe."

The poem quickly became as famous as the painting. Both continue to be moving testimonies ot what the too prevalent inhumanity of humanity can cause. Neither man ever did any thing else comparable to their most famous work which became their sole ouvre.

The Man with the Hoe

Bowed by the weight of centuries he leans
Upon his hoe and gazes on the ground,
The empitiness of ages in his face,
And on his back, the burden of the world.
Who made him dead to rapture and dispair,
A thing that grieves not and that never hopes,
Stolid and stunned, a brother to the ox?
Who loosed and let down this brutal jaw?
Whose ws the hand that slanted back this brow?
Whose breath blew out the light within this brain?

Is this the thing the Lord God made and gave
To have dominion over sea and land;
To trace the stars and search the heavens for power,
To feeel the passion of Eternity?
In this the dream He dreamed who shaped the suns
And marked their ways upon the ancient deep?
Down all the caversn of Hell to their last gulf
There is no shape more terrible than this....
More tongued with cries agaisnt the world's blind greed---
More filled with signs and potents for the soul...
More packed with danger to the Universe.

What gulfs between him and the seraphim!
Slave of the wheel of labor, what to him
Are Plato and the swing of the Pleiades?
What the long reaches of the peaks of song,
The rift of dawn, the reddening of the rose?
Through this dread shape the suffering ages look:
Time's tragedy is in that aching stoop;
Through this dread shape humanity betrayed,
Plundered, profaned, and disinherited,
Cries protest to the Powers that made the world,
A protest that is also a phrophecy.

O masters, lords, and rulers in all lands,
Is this the handiwork you give to God,
This monstrous thing distored and soul quenched?
How will you straighten up this shape;
Touch it again with immortality;
Give back the upweard looking and the light;
Rebuild in it the music and the dream,
Make right the immemorial infamies,
Perfidious wrongs, immediacalbe woes?

O masters, lords, and rulers in all lands,
How will the future reckon with this Man?
How answer his brute question in that hour
When whirlwinds of rebellion shake all shores?
How will it be with kingdoms and with kings...
When those who shaped him to the thing he is...
When this dumb Terror shall rise to judge the world,
After the silence of centuries?

I learned this poem for Interscholastic League competition in the 4th grade -- age 9. I have never forgotten its essence. It has kept my understanding of being humane. I memorized this kind of poem at least once a year for 8 years. As did most students of my day. It gave us a common ground of understanding. These things are no longer done or taught. That understanding no longer exists as a culture. Part of this is seeing how this evolved to what we are now and why.

[Black Panther]

“The Hunger Games”: A Glimpse at the Future?

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"In this PG-13 movie we see kids aged between 12 and 18
violently stabbing, slashing, strangling, shooting and breaking
the necks of other children – scenes that are seldom seen in
Hollywood movies. While it is surely a way for the movie to
grab the attention of the movie’s target audience
(which happens to be teenagers aged 12 to 18)"

Whole story on:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hunger-games-a-glimpse-at-the-new-world-order/

[Kindling]

Realeyes, I have 14 year old daughter, too. She devoured the books, and told me I just had to read them. I loved the books, too, then we went to the movie together. It caused us to spend quality time together having lots of interesting discussions. I learned that she and her friends are more intelligent and think more deeply than I ever realized!

Thanks for that article Black Panther. It was interesting. In one part it said, "Is the author Suzanne Collins communicating a strong anti-NWO message to the youth by showing its dangers or is it getting the youth used to the idea? Let’s look at the fictional, yet possible, future world of The Hunger Games." Very good question. Maybe it depends on each individual's perception.

Pretty thought provoking books and movie. I can understand why the critics feel the way they do, but it's all good imo when young people are reading, thinking, and asking tough questions about the bigger picture.

[DouglasDanger]

Never take a Critics opinion at face value, always see it or read it for yourself, Critics are paid to write reviews of books and movies, if the person who is paying them does not like the film or book the review will be bad, just look at some of the crap hollywood has dumped on us for years that has been given Critical aclaim!

P.S. I'll wait and see it on video I refuse to pay bloated prices for anything and I get to keep it to watch it again ...

[Earth Angel]

I saw this movie last night when my daughter rented it.....like many who've written above, it was more about spending time with my daughter than seeing this movie.....however, it was a very good movie, but quite disturbing.... having read the Vigilante Citizens review of the movie this part I agree with but was disturbed to realize I had taken part myself

there is little to no difference between movie goers who watch the movie The Hunger Games and the masses in the movie that witness the cruelty of the Games. Both are willing participants in an event that portrays the sacrifice of their own under the amused eye of the elite. Furthermore, one can argue that the movie accomplishes the same functions as the Games in the movie: Distracting the masses with blood and sex while reminding it of the elite’s power.

I hope this movie does have an awakening effect on young people and not a programming for acceptance of this in the future.

[Chris Gilbert]

This movie really caught me offguard, it's now one of my all time faves. :)

I downloaded the second book shortly thereafter. It's encouraging to see a popular series addressing topics related to the NWO, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

[donk]

I thought it was good the first time I watched it. It was well done, and explored a lot of good themes. The contumes were awesome, acting and production top-notch, it was amazing to look, and super supenseful (in some ways). I was watching it not knowing what to expect, some sort of "Gamer" or redo of "Running Man", and was pleasantly surprised, I guess due to expectations.

I watched it the second relatively recently, and was sickened. Underneath the flashy show (makeup on the pig), I agree with Earth Angel---TELEVISED RITUAL CHILD SACRIFICE.

REAL hard to watch when you already know the story and have a heart. Maybe getting those lessons (like seeing some of the images Houman posts on the Horus-Ra thread) is necessary, but going back for more seemed gratuitious to me.

I am sure the books are better. I know there are a lot of good messages and lessons in there. But the heart of it, and what a lot of the audience goes for (like hockey "fans" that go for the hits/fights) is pretty brutal.

[write4change]

What makes the books so potent and why teenagers really like them is the book is it is told in the first person I. The books are the process and reflection of interior thinking. Something that is very rare in action adventure books. Harry Potter is told in third person--he. For me there are very few women leaders of action that are not crazy or sexually captivating. The heroine all through the books is not just saying this is what I did but this is what I felt about it. She also shows that thinking about an act is continuous and changes over time.

I read the whole series twice and I know I am biased as an old woman but I still found them superb for the thinking they produce.

[Maia Gabrial]

Illuminati nonsense. They're making it sound so cool to have kids killing kids just for food. Not a fan.

[yuhui]

Some information I found in david icke's forum(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207061):

"This becomes important when watching Suzanne Collins talk about her childhood in this YouTube clip:

Notice she said she lived in Brussels, Belgium as a child. Also, in reciting the only bit of French she knew, she mentions the DuPont family (an Illuminati bloodline). It is also worth noting she came from a military family. How is all this significant?

Fritz Springmeier has had many Illuminati members give him information. One was Tom Collins, a defector, who described the Mothers Of Darkness (a level within the Illuminati structure on the female side) and the castle in Belgium where they do their rituals. This castle was exposed in the 'Dutroux affair' in Belgium where the top levels of Belgium society where exposed as being involved in pedophilia, torture and child sacrifice during the 90's. Here are some experts from Springmeiers book as told to him by Tom Collins who was present at this particular ritual:

"The year is 1955, and all the Mothers of Darkness level families are attending this ritual. Besides the Collins family, other Illuminati bloodlines such as the Rothschilds are represented. The Grande Dame on the throne is called Queen Mother and she is a Collins… Seven children from generational Satanic families who are dressed in white are presented to the Queen Mother Collins, and then lay prostrate and worship her… After approving the candidates, seven other children where then sacrificed and the blood of the dead child would be used to write the approved child's name on a parchment using a quill pen."

[seleka]

...TELEVISED RITUAL CHILD SACRIFICE. ...



:sad:........