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Heyoka_11
29th March 2012, 21:15
G'day All,

Here is yesterday's email that I received from Elaine Hollingsworth, from Hippocrates Health Institute:



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BLACK SALVE BANNED


Dear Tony,

Unfortunately the government has now banned Black Salve in Australia. Anyone supplying or selling it faces prosecution and severe penalties. Their reason for this is clear to all thinking people: it works. It eliminates skin cancers safely and cuts out some of the most powerful organisations on Earth -- Big Pharma and Big Medicine, and they own governments worldwide.

We think this is outrageous and if you agree, sign the petition (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494038&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2findex.htm) on our website.

Black Salve can still be purchased overseas, but we cannot guarantee the quality, and Australian Customs may refuse entry.

If you can't get it, you can make it yourself. Instructions are in the ONE ANSWER TO CANCER (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494083&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2fbuy_dvd.htm) DVD. Warning: Please be sure to follow the instructions precisely.

You can find the ingredients here (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=493940&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.plantessentials.com.au%2findex.php%3faction%3dsearch%26search%3ddmso%26search_in% 255Bcat_id%255D%3dALL%26search_subcategories%3d0%26submit%3dSearch%2521).

Click for the latest ONE ANSWER TO CANCER MOVIE (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494039&O=http%3a%2f%2fdoctorsaredangerous.com%2fnewsletters%2fmovie-showings) public screening.

Yours in good health,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/webkit-fake-url://4E0FCD5D-D656-4785-A475-FA79365A9C96/signature1.jpg
Elaine
www.oneanswertocancermovie.com (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494038&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2findex.htm)
www.doctorsaredangerous.com (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=493938&O=http%3a%2f%2fdoctorsaredangerous.businesscatalyst.com%2f)

I checked the usual sources in Australia (not that there were many) last night, and sure enough, they are shutting up shop.

I managed to stock up off the Australian eBay site, but be warned, as of the 1st of April, that will be it.

All the Best,

Tony.

Lifebringer
29th March 2012, 22:35
Thanks but isn't garlic cheaper and I saw a video of a man with a neck cancer tumor half the size of his head and all he used was garlic oil, until if slid off. It was massive and on this site. It oozed and then started shrinking and sliding off his neck as if another being attached.

Wonderful cure and much cheaper. I'd rather smell like spagetti and save some cash but thanks for the tip, perhaps others will try the other preferably because of the aroma of garlic.

Just a penny wise cure added, no malice, all is needed in the information age and everyon can benefit from as much as possible here. Also have a 1 part baking soda and any natural sugar 2 parts, like honey, maple syrup, or molasses. They shrink tumors in 7 days by 50% and after a couple of weeks, completely gone and baffling doctors.

witchy1
30th March 2012, 08:57
Thanks Tony, I too stocked up a few weeks ago both locally and the cansema site - just in case. This is a great site for those who dont know about it... http://www.altcancer.com/

I have used it - stung like a bastard, but got rid of that nefarious thing attached to me...LOL!

bluestflame
30th March 2012, 11:16
might have a look and see if there's some seeds i can get started

Avocadess
10th April 2012, 03:40
That black salve is amazing stuff...! But you have to know what you are doing and know ahead of time that you will probably experience some pain (which can be somewhat severe) and if you put on skin surrounding mole or wart it can take away pigment in surrounding area, etc. Definitely something to research well before using but I would choose it over the pharmaceutical answers any day of the week!

markoid
10th April 2012, 04:59
Gobsmacked by the idiocy and criminality inherent in this new bit of legalese!
It is a very effective treatment... signed the petition for sure.
Thanks for the heads up Tony.

Heyoka_11
10th April 2012, 05:28
Thanks for the heads up Tony.

G'day Mark,

Howzya bin mate?

Isn't it a pity to see Aussies at the head of the pack for stupidity?

I just checked eBay locally, and there is one listing remaining. If you do find yourself in need, the link in my OP to ingredients looks fine, and all that you need can be found there. If you have not already, get a copy of Elaine's "One Answer to Cancer" DVD, as the preparation of black salve must be done correctly.

Stay well,

Tony :)

markoid
10th April 2012, 06:39
Good mate :)

Yeh, I looked at the dvd ... inspirational stuff indeed, she is quite the warrior aye. Bloodroot is the only ingredient that I thought might be hard to get.
I have used black salve on various skin lesions that I was told were cancerous and the salve did a fine job.

best to you too my friend :yo:

sdv
10th April 2012, 08:24
Please excuse my ignorance, but on what grounds did the Aus government ban black salve? Even without this information the move to ban it seems absurd to me. Are we really living in such a crazy world?
My personal belief is that the type of medicine that will work for each person depends on the vibrations for that person - what will resonate for me and work for me will not necessarily resonate with and work for another. I thus believe that all types of medicine and cures should be available for everyone.

Heyoka_11
10th April 2012, 08:54
Hi sdv,


Please excuse my ignorance, but on what grounds did the Aus government ban black salve?

Please refer back to Elaine's email; it works, and we can't afford to have the general public aware of a treatment that cuts into the mega-bucks to be made out of cancer. It's that simple!

It wasn't so much the Australian government that has banned the sale of Black Salve for human or veterinary use, so much as it was the Theraputic Goods Administration (TGA); the Aussie equivalent of the US FDA. They are both havens for drug company representatives, ensuring that the interests of big pharma come before the health of their countries citizens.


Even without this information the move to ban it seems absurd tome. Are we really living in such a crazy world?

Yes; though please remember that it's not the entire world that's crazy, just the power tripping psychopaths that run the joint.


My personal belief is that the type of medicine that will work for each person depends on the vibrations for that person - what will resonate for me and work for me will not necessarily resonate with and work for another. I thus believe that all types of medicine and cures should be available for everyone.
I don't think that you will get much argument on that point around here!

Thanks for your input :)

Bill Ryan
10th April 2012, 22:22
Hi, All --

This (below) is what Amazon Black Salve will and does do. This is also why it was banned in Australia. Note, however, that it's readily available from many other sources:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22amazon+black+salve%22

I know someone personally who's used this in exactly the same way. The cancer cells were immediately devoured... and the skin healed over with zero scarring. I witnessed this personally.

MUST SEE. You'll never regard cancer in the same way again. Tell anyone you know who's frightened of what may be happening in their skin.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYbGJZziU8g

MMA_Fan
10th April 2012, 23:19
Don't fancy it myself.

This article gives another point of view as to why it is banned. It's a corrosive for a start and some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it.
(Contains graphic images which may put you off your dinner): http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

Heyoka_11
10th April 2012, 23:30
MUST SEE. You'll never regard cancer in the same way again. Tell anyone you know who's frightened of what may be happening in their skin.

Thanks for the post Bill; it was a must see.

Members and guests, if you find yourself here, please take the time to watch the entire video, and tell as many others about it as you are able.

Heyoka_11
10th April 2012, 23:50
some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it

Thanks for balancing the equation MMA, and you are totally right. If administered by unscrupulous healers, more harm than good can result. It is not simply a case of slapping the salve on and thinking that all will be well. If anyone is considering the use of Black Slave, then it should only be done after thorough investigation of it's correct modality of use, and of course, ensuring that the product has been purchased from a reputable supplier.

As with all things, buyer beware!

Oh, and as for Quackwatch, whilst I admit that there is a great deal of worthwhile information on this site, I have also, on several occasions, read utter prejudiced bunk there as well. It is an excellent platform for spreading misinformation, but that's just my opinion. :)

MMA_Fan
11th April 2012, 00:12
some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it

Thanks for balancing the equation MMA, and you are totally right. If administered by unscrupulous healers, more harm than good can result. It is not simply a case of slapping the salve on and thinking that all will be well. If anyone is considering the use of Black Slave, then it should only be done after thorough investigation of it's correct modality of use, and of course, ensuring that the product has been purchased from a reputable supplier.

As with all things, buyer beware!

Oh, and as for Quackwatch, whilst I admit that there is a great deal of worthwhile information on this site, I have also, on several occasions, read utter prejudiced bunk there as well. It is an excellent platform for spreading misinformation, but that's just my opinion. :)

Absolutely.

The most important thing is whether a certain treatment works for the individual, if it's mainstream or alternative it shouldn't matter IMO.

Christine
11th April 2012, 00:48
Hello everyone that may be interested in this healing modality. I have used the Amazonian black salve that is available at this link:

http://www.herbhealers.com/store/http-www-altcancer-com-cansema-htm.html

It works wonderfully and is considered to be one of the best products available.

A little back ground may be interesting here. My father has had basal cell skin cancer for the past thirty years and gone the "modern" medical route with having the lesions surgically removed. The result has been a body full of scars, open wounds and pieces of his ears and nose are now missing. He has never been free from these lesions which have continued to appear at a steadily increasing rate. The cost both emotionally and financially is large. He has born all this very well and is in good spirits, however last week he was informed that a lesion that was surgically removed and biopsied is a melanoma. He is facing a complicated surgery, plastic surgery, and chemotherapy. This saddens me greatly, as the giant pharma-medical machine grinds up another being. If something as effective as black salve had been made available to him I know that the progression of his skin cancers would have been slowed if not detained and for a minimum of cost.

I have recently spotted the same lesions on my face, having been over exposed to the sun during my life, it was probably inevitable. I feel so fortunate that a friend introduced me to this salve. I must say that it took some initial courage to apply it to my right cheek. I experienced a very slight discomfort and some reddening around the skin, and exactly as the video that Bill posted my body formed the eschar which fell off on the fifth day leaving a 5 mm deep hole. It was scary! First because I knew the cancer was that deep in my body and because I didn't know how it would look when it healed. I am so happy to report that my face healed with a tiny scar that no one can even detect. It took about three weeks total. Since then I have found a couple of more places and have had the same results. (A small round band aid covers the spots nicely while the salve is working.)

If you know anyone facing this type of skin lesion please do not hesitate to give them this information, it can be life saving. Here is a good website with lots of valuable information on alternative cancer treatments.

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Cansema.html

Thanks for starting this discussion.

Best wishes to all,

La Tigra

Heyoka_11
11th April 2012, 10:25
If you know anyone facing this type of skin lesion please do not hesitate to give them this information, it can be life saving.

Hi La Tigra,

And thank you very much for having taken the time to relate your father's experience with mainstream cancer treatment, which I was saddened to read, but very happy to find that your use of the salve has been successful. First hand experience like yours counts for much more than my simply "beating the drum".

The links that you included were also invaluable, as they provided not only worthwhile information as to how best to use black salve, but also an insight into the "disagreement" between Hippocrates Health Institute and Alpha Omega Labs. Deary me!...........everywhere we go, angst!

Stay well La Tigra, and thanks again,

Tony :)

Here is a first time user's account of her experience:

MsjVn9tGMoM

MacStar
11th April 2012, 14:40
Lots to say on this and thanks all for the heads up,will post more tomorrow hopefully as I'm trying to source seed.

This is my area...this I have seen the TGA do time and time again as I'm from an Ethnobotany background.
http://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/species_pages_S/Sanguinaria_canadensis_files/image003.gif
Source: http://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/species_pages_S/Sanguinaria_canadensis.htm

Says it all doesn't it?

Petition away for sure,it can't hurt but I doubt it will make much difference as this is not new to me.

We need to front them.

This madness must stop.

I'm angry.

Rozzy
11th April 2012, 15:22
G'day All,

Here is yesterday's email that I received from Elaine Hollingsworth, from Hippocrates Health Institute:



http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/images/images.jpeg >

BLACK SALVE BANNED


Dear Tony,

Unfortunately the government has now banned Black Salve in Australia. Anyone supplying or selling it faces prosecution and severe penalties. Their reason for this is clear to all thinking people: it works. It eliminates skin cancers safely and cuts out some of the most powerful organisations on Earth -- Big Pharma and Big Medicine, and they own governments worldwide.

We think this is outrageous and if you agree, sign the petition (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494038&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2findex.htm) on our website.

Black Salve can still be purchased overseas, but we cannot guarantee the quality, and Australian Customs may refuse entry. If you are overseas we recommend that you shun the US company, Alpha Omega Labs. They supply it, but we don't trust them.

If you can't get it, you can make it yourself. Instructions are in the ONE ANSWER TO CANCER (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494083&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2fbuy_dvd.htm) DVD. Warning: Please be sure to follow the instructions precisely.

You can find the ingredients here (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=493940&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.plantessentials.com.au%2findex.php%3faction%3dsearch%26search%3ddmso%26search_in% 255Bcat_id%255D%3dALL%26search_subcategories%3d0%26submit%3dSearch%2521).

Click for the latest ONE ANSWER TO CANCER MOVIE (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494039&O=http%3a%2f%2fdoctorsaredangerous.com%2fnewsletters%2fmovie-showings) public screening.

Yours in good health,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/webkit-fake-url://4E0FCD5D-D656-4785-A475-FA79365A9C96/signature1.jpg
Elaine
www.oneanswertocancermovie.com (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=494038&O=http%3a%2f%2fwww.oneanswertocancermovie.com%2findex.htm)
www.doctorsaredangerous.com (http://oneanswertocancermovie.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=9752077&KID=131545&LID=493938&O=http%3a%2f%2fdoctorsaredangerous.businesscatalyst.com%2f)

I checked the usual sources in Australia (not that there were many) last night, and sure enough, they are shutting up shop.

I managed to stock up off the Australian eBay site, but be warned, as of the 1st of April, that will be it.

All the Best,

Tony.


Concerning Alpha Omega Labs I have purchased Lugols from them while Lugols was sequestered, The purchase and delivery went just fine and the product was excellent. Was comparatively expensive when compared to normal off the shelf price. I was recommended A.O.L. by a medical professional I know that buys Lugols from them as well, I am not familiar with the Black Salve though.

Rozzy
11th April 2012, 16:04
http://blacksalveinfo.com/

http://www.blacksalveinfo.com/site_map.htm

Bill Ryan
11th April 2012, 16:23
Don't fancy it myself.

This article gives another point of view as to why it is banned. It's a corrosive for a start and some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it.
(Contains graphic images which may put you off your dinner): http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

Quackwatch (the medical blog of Stephen Barrett, MD) is a pretty much a pro-FDA mouthpiece. The FDA is not protecting your health. Trust me. :)

It should also be noted that Dr Barrett is a psychiatrist. Some psychiatrists are well-intentioned people, but by no means all. Meanwhile, all psychiatrists are gravely misled in one way or another.

Read his Curriculum Vitae (http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae.html): it gets worse and worse.

In 1980, he co-authored a book called The Tooth Robbers: A Pro-Fluoridation Handbook (http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/tooth_robbers.pdf).

In 1981 came Vitamins and "Health" Foods: The Great American Hustle (http://www.amazon.com/Vitamins-Health-Foods-American-Hustle/dp/0893130737).

And he proudly presents his credentials as a member of The Committee for Skeptical Enquiry (CSICOP (http://www.csicop.org/)), as is the famous debunker James Randi.

I will not waste my time writing any more about this anti-human, destructive clown, and his listen-to-me, brainwashed, status-oriented, mainstream viewpoint.

Excuse the rant: but this kind of drip-feed attack on freedom, sanity, truth, and real health makes me angry too. The future of the well-being of the human race is at stake in issues like this.

Rogerc
11th April 2012, 16:34
Sounds amazing stuff - is it the one that the gentleman in the Atherton area developed?

Does anyone know anything about Radium Weed ?

It grows on the Tablelands apparently and a lady friend of mine swears by it for BCC's and Horny Keratosis,
.
Unfortunately I don't know how to identify it in the bush.

MacStar
11th April 2012, 17:30
Sounds amazing stuff - is it the one that the gentleman in the Atherton area developed?

Does anyone know anything about Radium Weed ?

It grows on the Tablelands apparently and a lady friend of mine swears by it for BCC's and Horny Keratosis,
.
Unfortunately I don't know how to identify it in the bush.

Yes Radium has similar qualities and is in the papaver family.The fresh milk/sap is used.I know that ozhare was talking to me about it quite some time ago.
I think he may have some experience with it?

This is the thing that has happened recently in Aus(Early last year).

"They" put forth an agenda to ban 1000's of plants under the guise of the "Analogues Act.".
The proposal was to "Blanket Ban" the possesion by penalty of the Drug Laws, anyone with this vast and utterly unworkable list of plants and common weeds.
We had to even correct them on the nomenclature of the bill as far as Botanical Genus/Species goes*slaps forehead*..as some attention was drawn obviously to DMT containing plants of which we have an abundance of here....our Floral Emblem is a Wattle FFS and this was on the "list" It's not an active one or one that people extract Alkaloids from....they had no clue which ones were,just that Acacia's contain DMT....yes the are well versed....now!
It was an intelligence gathering exercise through which they learned more about plants than they knew.
Obviously the key "watched" groups were infuriated and expressed their concern and their reasons why via a petition that was not accepted by "GetUp" :confused:.
They are OWNED!
:spy:....I knew the outcome and tried to help those on the Forum I was on that this would be the case.
The outcome was that a minority,yet highly insightful/medicinal ones were banned(the ones they wanted!)
Once this was passed,then any state could adopt this as legislation.

We really have to see through this and Rogerc has given us another option that ozhare might be able to enlighten us on hopefully.


Here's a link on Radium:
http://www.beautanicals.com.au/RadiumWeed.html

It's a soft stemmed clover looking plant that exudes a white sap and should be handled with care.Very common weed here.

Learn what you can about these weeds,it's important as Science and Big Pharma are no competition for knowledge of Wildcrafting.The tools I'm using for Benzo withdrawal are all botanicals and work...I can't take(and won't)painkillers or muscle relaxants as they luckily interfere with the withdrawal process.
So knowing Botanical properties of obscure plants and weeds/fungi is very important for survival.

As for the one in Danger NOW, Aussies get seed and distribute pronto!

Thanks too Bill,I agree Quackwatch is disinfo at it's best.

MMA_Fan
11th April 2012, 21:57
Don't fancy it myself.

This article gives another point of view as to why it is banned. It's a corrosive for a start and some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it.
(Contains graphic images which may put you off your dinner): http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

Quackwatch (the medical blog of Stephen Barrett, MD) is a pretty much a pro-FDA mouthpiece. The FDA is not protecting your health. Trust me. :)

It should also be noted that Dr Barrett is a psychiatrist. Some psychiatrists are well-intentioned people, but by no means all. Meanwhile, all psychiatrists are gravely misled in one way or another.

Read his Curriculum Vitae (http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae.html): it gets worse and worse.

In 1980, he co-authored a book called The Tooth Robbers: A Pro-Fluoridation Handbook (http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/tooth_robbers.pdf).

In 1981 came Vitamins and "Health" Foods: The Great American Hustle (http://www.amazon.com/Vitamins-Health-Foods-American-Hustle/dp/0893130737).

And he proudly presents his credentials as a member of The Committee for Skeptical Enquiry (CSICOP (http://www.csicop.org/)), as is the famous debunker James Randi.

I will not waste my time writing any more about this anti-human, destructive clown, and his listen-to-me, brainwashed, status-oriented, mainstream viewpoint.

Excuse the rant: but this kind of drip-feed attack on freedom, sanity, truth, and real health makes me angry too. The future of the well-being of the human race is at stake in issues like this.

Thanks for pointing out his credentials Bill - they are interesting. After reading he seems much more of a debunker than a skeptic.
I should have checked myself before linking to his 'article' so apologies for that.:o

The salve still wouldn't be my personal choice as I would look for other alternatives but then I have never had cancer so don't have that perspective.

Rogerc
12th April 2012, 00:28
MacStar, Thanks for the link to Radium Weed.

Given it's milky sap it's probably an alkaloid - not very pleasant.

However how the medical profession can overlook any possible cure is unbelievable.

My friend had Chemotherapy explained to her as "killing as many cells as possible without killing you"

I've also heard that a teas and poultices made from young paw-paw (papaya) trees are helpful

Problem with alternates is that they are often poorly researched and some claims border on Disneyland , sometimes effect is not carefully equated to cause. Perhaps a careful combination of therapies may be the way to go.

MacStar
12th April 2012, 02:08
MacStar, Thanks for the link to Radium Weed.

Given it's milky sap it's probably an alkaloid - not very pleasant.

However how the medical profession can overlook any possible cure is unbelievable.

My friend had Chemotherapy explained to her as "killing as many cells as possible without killing you"

I've also heard that a teas and poultices made from young paw-paw (papaya) trees are helpful

Problem with alternates is that they are often poorly researched and some claims border on Disneyland , sometimes effect is not carefully equated to cause. Perhaps a careful combination of therapies may be the way to go.

No wuz Rogerc,umm yes it will burn non afflicted skin and eyes especially.It is an alkaloid complex from memory,the sap gives away it's relationship to Papaver or the Poppie family.

As for "Alternative" therapies,well I'm butting heads over at an unrelated Forum over this very thing atm,the Debunkers call it Psuedoscience.The claim being that "Scientific double-blind" studies make something credible,not vast amounts of first hand experience and testimonials :doh:.....there's plenty out there on Psilocybin,Ayahuasca,Mescaline Cacti,Salvia and Iboga to name a few.
These things WORK far better than Pharmaceuticals and are easily grown or found wild...plenty of info out there on them.
Always observe set and setting rules and clearing energies with smoke etc as well as having a sitter and protecting the vessel from invasion whilst in transit.

The shoe would be on the other foot if these people were diagnosed with agressive skin carcinoma's!

I gave the example of the odd's of Amazonian Shaman finding 2 main admixture plants in the vast ecology there that produced medicinal and Hallucinogenic properties,considering the amount of non-active and poisonous "look alikes", plus the precise identification of one of the main active plants being Viridis.This dick put it down to trial and error over time....yah right.like Ayahuasca was just stumbled on with instructions on how to prepare it *facepalm*....they were dircted by an unseen hand and had connections to the Earth that only we can dream of.

The Radium as far as I know is best applied fresh as the Alkaloids break down rapidly due to oxidisation and it will burn healthy tissue.
Vaseline should be enough to protect the area around the application point AKAIK...sent an email to ozhare as I know he has looked into it and possibly used it,so waiting for his input on this.
I know he has used colloidal silver on my advice on a long standing wart and now it's completely gone...oh wait, that's right it's now a "drug" in some parts of the UK and not Psuedoscience ;)
Codex Alimentarius ring a bell?
http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/codex-alimentarius.html
Another thing that helps with a lot of things to put in your cupboard mate,colloidal Silver:
http://www.allansutton.com/
The BEST mate,don't settle for other brands.I have used it for many things as stated on the website and it's all true,every word.(turns out there has been a battle over naming and ownership of the Colloidal Product.)
It's very easy to get and quite cheap considering how powerful it is.

Edit:Seems www.allansutton.com has been in court over this,so I'm sticking with www.suttonssolutions.com.au after further clarification via phone just now...plus,well allansutton is not available anymore in Aus anyway due to TGA rulings.

On the Black Salve,I just hope the old Forum I was on doesn't blow this one too,as it is the most highly watched Aus Forum for these issues.

The TGA don't like them much,just a shame the Owner and King Mod was such a closed minded prick on his high horse.I was there for many years with over 4,000 posts and ended up calling him out,suffice to say I was locked out :boxing:

Shame they use the word Shaman without realising exactly what it means.

Edit:Oh yeah,there are many alternatives for battling cancer like Liposomal Vitamin C(UTube it!).Ilost my cousin this year to Cancer,recently found out a dear friend has just passed away last week and was in contact with a mate who was my boss years ago,a great man...and he has just got through Chemo....****'s me no end.
And believe me,"They" know all too well about the alternatives.
This is just the new "Witch-Hunt" or "Crusades".
Everything we need is in Nature,Knowledge is power!!

I doubt very much that Ben or Drake or whoever is totally on the Human race's side,whether they know it or not.
It's up to us.
Remeber the scene in The Matrix with the Oracle on the park bench?
The one at the Railway Station?
The one in the command centre with the "Creator"?

Ponder these well.

*hops of soap box* ;)

RE:RE: Edit OK well my partner just came back from our usual stockist for "MY Colloidal Siver"... Allan Suttons Colloidal Silver and the bloody TGA has stopped us from getting it!!!!
We now have a copycat company(turns out not to be so!) selling it,check the webpage link above.
(Apparently allan Sutton should have amended this page)

I'm ringing www.suttonssolutions.com.au using Allan Suttons name to clarify this right now.

Ok all seems good,yes the TGA have stopped ALL Colloidal products from entering Australia,but had a chat to the owner and she explained the situation.
She is also aware of the Black Salve saga.

I have invited her onboard, as she is very up to date on these things and will clarify further on this matter.

brenie
12th April 2012, 15:16
Heyoka_11, hello just watched your vid: excellent just the info: people need to give them confidence, and to counter the 'black' propagander against black-salve.
I used BS last year on my face, almost the same location as yours, the follow-up was almost the same.
I had to treat it more than once, but I have no fear of using it in the future.
And I do recommend the dvd 'one answer to cancer' good info there, as well as black salve.

Regards, Brenie.

brenie
12th April 2012, 15:45
Mcstar, hi thanks for all info: sorry to hear they are now blocking Colloidal Silver.
Just wondering have you tried making this yourself, the 'Bob Beck' way ?

Regards Brenie.

Leon
12th April 2012, 15:56
You need to understand Aussieland...

They ban everything...

But release the most stupid things, for the good of the people of course...


Wish I knew about this before my operations... mine touch wood has not returned to date... but I always feel I am on borrowed time, after my operations my doctor told me I had less then a month to live the melenoma was so severe. and it was...

Thanks to my good doctor, doctor G. Stares (RIP) who was driven out of business because he really tried to help his patients by... can you guess?

the Australian Government

MacStar
13th April 2012, 04:16
Mcstar, hi thanks for all info: sorry to hear they are now blocking Colloidal Silver.
Just wondering have you tried making this yourself, the 'Bob Beck' way ?

Regards Brenie.

Hi brenie,no I haven't but I have the instructions here and thanks for the lead,I'll look that one up :)

Colloidal Silver is not Banned in Aus, but it must conform to the Australian TGA Standards,thus no imports.

The site suttonssolutions is here in Aus and that's where you can get it.It's also available via their official outlets.

Cheers :)

Heyoka_11
13th April 2012, 04:40
I used BS last year on my face, almost the same location as yours

Thanks brenie,

Great to hear that your experience with Black Salve was a success.

To set the record straight, the video was a selection off You Tube, not my own. I have not had cause to use the salve personally, but just get jacked off when effective treatments are suppressed or banned.

Wishing you continued health,

Tony :)

witchy1
13th April 2012, 10:56
I was reading one of my early 1900's medical books and they describe an old surgeon who used to treat skin lesions with zinc chloride (effective ingrediant in black salve /cansema) and flour. Worked a treat.

Arrowwind
20th April 2012, 19:55
Hi, All --

This (below) is what Amazon Black Salve will and does do. This is also why it was banned in Australia. Note, however, that it's readily available from many other sources:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22amazon+black+salve%22

I know someone personally who's used this in exactly the same way. The cancer cells were immediately devoured... and the skin healed over with zero scarring. I witnessed this personally.

MUST SEE. You'll never regard cancer in the same way again. Tell anyone you know who's frightened of what may be happening in their skin.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYbGJZziU8g

I am a black salve advocate and I keep a stash available from Cantons company in Ecquador.
that being said it takes in some cases some very skilled knowledge to apply it and use it. For this I recommend this book to have on hand before you start using it especially if the melanoma is greater than .5 centimeter in size. It provides detailed instructions for wound care and gives a photographic case for an internal breast cancer removal, not a melanoma.
http://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Salves-Botanical-Approach-Treatment/dp/1556432704/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334950910&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Salves-Botanical-Approach-Treatment/dp/1556432704/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334950910&sr=1-1)

One downfall with cansema black salve or any black salve use is that if the lesion is significant before treatment there is a risk that the the cancer has already moved to other parts of the body. This possibility should not be overlooked and diligent observation of one's health is required from then on as melanoma can appear in the liver or other organs where it is not seen until late in its development. All cancers, and in this case, especially melanoma for which black salve is so noted for, should also be treated internally with the internal products offered at Omega Labs or perhaps a hoxey tincture. Oral Lugol's iodine should be included in the protocol. Melanoma has a nasty history of reappearing many years after a so called primary lesion is removed, especially if it was a deep one. Of couse the possibility of reappearace is greater if you had it surgically removed in most cases as they end up cutting a root and leaving it to grow. In home treatment hopefully the cansema was applied in time and all the roots are correctly removed. If they break or it is not done correctly you may be in trouble down the line. In some seriously large cases of melanoma the roots can be visualized when the tumor comes out. It they appear damaged or incomplete the wound should be allowed to heal for two weeks or so and then another applicaiton of salve is applied to hopefully get the rest of it.

Arrowwind
20th April 2012, 20:01
MacStar, Thanks for the link to Radium Weed.

Given it's milky sap it's probably an alkaloid - not very pleasant.

However how the medical profession can overlook any possible cure is unbelievable.

My friend had Chemotherapy explained to her as "killing as many cells as possible without killing you"

I've also heard that a teas and poultices made from young paw-paw (papaya) trees are helpful

Problem with alternates is that they are often poorly researched and some claims border on Disneyland , sometimes effect is not carefully equated to cause. Perhaps a careful combination of therapies may be the way to go.

I purchased radium weed seed and grew the plants. I found it very highly INEFFECTIVE for eliminating actinic keratosis for which is is suppose to get rid of... therefor I became skepical of reliable action for skin cancer. I purchased the seed from the correct source, in New Zealand was it? dont remember now.

Arrowwind
20th April 2012, 20:06
Don't fancy it myself.

This article gives another point of view as to why it is banned. It's a corrosive for a start and some unscrupulous healers can do a lot of damage with it.
(Contains graphic images which may put you off your dinner): http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

Quackwatch (the medical blog of Stephen Barrett, MD) is a pretty much a pro-FDA mouthpiece. The FDA is not protecting your health. Trust me. :)

It should also be noted that Dr Barrett is a psychiatrist. Some psychiatrists are well-intentioned people, but by no means all. Meanwhile, all psychiatrists are gravely misled in one way or another.

Read his Curriculum Vitae (http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae.html): it gets worse and worse.

In 1980, he co-authored a book called The Tooth Robbers: A Pro-Fluoridation Handbook (http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/tooth_robbers.pdf).

In 1981 came Vitamins and "Health" Foods: The Great American Hustle (http://www.amazon.com/Vitamins-Health-Foods-American-Hustle/dp/0893130737).

And he proudly presents his credentials as a member of The Committee for Skeptical Enquiry (CSICOP (http://www.csicop.org/)), as is the famous debunker James Randi.

I will not waste my time writing any more about this anti-human, destructive clown, and his listen-to-me, brainwashed, status-oriented, mainstream viewpoint.

Excuse the rant: but this kind of drip-feed attack on freedom, sanity, truth, and real health makes me angry too. The future of the well-being of the human race is at stake in issues like this.

Did you get a load of Barrett in the Gerson movies? He looks to be the slime bucket that he is. He is a very dangerous person is is likely personally responsible for the deaths of many by swaying people from alternative medicines that would have saved their lives. He is less that dirt to me and If I could hold a court I would charge him with manslaughter.

TelosianEmbrace
10th May 2012, 10:05
The youtube vid posted by Bill was one of the most amazing pieces of film I have seen. for all my life I was trained to believe that the big C is the end, period. Yet here is photographic evidence that black salve can work on cancer much like antiseptic cream on skin sores. Thanks so much Tony, for posting this thread. I just had to try out the ban, and ordered a jar of Black Salve from Best on Earth Products www.bestonearthproducts.com

It arrived a few days ago and at some stage I will be trying it out.

Heyoka_11
10th May 2012, 11:11
I am a black salve advocate and I keep a stash available from Cantons company in Ecquador.

G'day Arrowwind,

I just wanted to get your attention, and thank you for your consistently invaluable input to my occasional health oriented thread. The guidance that you provide to those considering using alternative healing modalities is second to none. :clap2:


Thanks so much Tony, for posting this thread. I just had to try out the ban, and ordered a jar of Black Salve

It's my pleasure, for I hope, having helped. Please be aware that this salve has a shelf life, or so I am lead to believe, so do your homework! Having said that, I stocked up to, so I had better do my homework as well :lol:

All the Very Best,

Tony :)

MacStar
16th May 2012, 07:40
Hey all,

I guess you guys from elsewhere are totally aware now about our T.G.A.,the OZ version of the F.D.A. and tarred by the same AGENDA.

Just in from www.oneanswertocancer.com.

YOUR RIGHT TO NATURAL HEALTH INFORMATION IS AT RISK.


For many years, we have supported the wonderful work of the Australian Vaccination Network. (www.avn.org.au)


Now, the AVN have told us that the "Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration has ordered AVN to stop selling" our One Answer to Cancer DVD, which contains information about Black Salve. "According to TGA's code, providing information about products is exactly the same as selling the product that is discussed in the DVD -- Black Salve."


Of course, we profoundly and emphatically refute TGA's outrageous assault on every Australian's right to free speech. We do know, though, that in recent months, TGA have shut down a number of Australian Black Salve manufacturers. TGA may now attempt to bar us, as well, from distributing our One Answer to Cancer DVD.

The government cannot ban Black Salve ingredients, which are available all over the world. Fortunately, it is not too late to protect your family's health now.

See www.oneanswertocancermovie.com to learn how to protect yourself.
Yours in good health

Elaine Hollingsworth
www.doctorsaredangerous.com

The aim of our newsletter is to keep you informed and up-to-date on issues relating to your health. Please pass on to family and friends and tell them they can sign up for Elaine's free newsletter here. http://doctorsaredangerous.com/CampaignProcess.aspx?A=Link&VID=12036756&KID=125515&LID=467209&O=http%3a%2f%2fdoctorsaredangerous.com%2fsignupezine.htm

All you Aussie growers,alchemists and those who can afford to stockpile...you know what to do.It is unfortunately the only way we will keep this Salve available here.

This is not only ridiculous but absolute proof that those who "care" for our health DON'T.To be taking such interest in banning the bloody video is beyond comprehension.

SCUM comes to mind.

Anchor
16th May 2012, 09:53
I'm tempted to get this DVD - does anyone have any direct experience of following the method they give of making it?

MacStar
18th May 2012, 08:25
Not as yet Anchor, but have the DVD ;)

I'd like to hear of anyone's success with the instructions too.

Anchor
18th May 2012, 12:05
I ordered it anyway. While I still have a job, I may as well.

MacStar
18th May 2012, 12:44
Sweet mate ;)

foreverfan
26th May 2012, 05:15
This stuff is remarkable. I can't believe the lengths the FDA will go through for big Pharma.

Carmen
26th May 2012, 06:44
I have used black salve successfully on my hand and on my face. It works beautifully. No more surgeons knife for me! I have also applied it to my daughters leg and a friends face with total healing results. It seems to depend on the type of cancer whether or not it stings, hurts or swells, in my experience. Mine was not painful at all but my daughters leg and my friends face swelled and was painful.

This is a marvelous cure to have in ones medicine chest. A "must have" in my opinion.

Heyoka_11
26th May 2012, 06:49
This stuff is remarkable. I can't believe the lengths the FDA will go through for big Pharma.

Which begs the question............

FDA (TGA here in Oz), and Big Pharma...........what's the diff?

Nothing!

Bumped into a friend a week ago who was worried sick after having the umpteenth basal celll carcenoma removed from his abdomen. He had never heard of black salve, so I put considerable effort into bring him up to speed, offering him a jar of the stuff free of charge. I haven't heard back from him as yet.

Ya' can lead a horse to water I guess, after which, he can dig his own grave.

Straker
26th May 2012, 06:57
I too bought some Black Salve off the Australian Ebay site.

After receiving it I did some more looking around and found a few sources that gave me second thoughts. One was a lady that used it, and it opened a hole in her sinuses that required surgery and building her a new nose.

Here's another example:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

So at the moment it sits on the shelf, and I tried emailing the guy that sold it to me to get his opinion but he would not even return my email.

It's also listed among the 187 Fake Cancer cures on the FDA site:

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/EnforcementActivitiesbyFDA/ucm171057.htm

So not wanting to become a lab rat, I'll leave it on the shelf as a last resort item.

Straker

Heyoka_11
26th May 2012, 07:10
I'll leave it on the shelf as a last resort item.

No, don'd do that!

Why not give it to someone who considers neither Quackwatch nor the bloody FDA's own site as credible sources of information.

Struth!

:pound:

ThePythonicCow
26th May 2012, 07:12
Why not give it to someone who considers neither Quackwatch or the bloody FDA's own site as credible sources of information.
Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it :).

ThePythonicCow
26th May 2012, 07:18
One was a lady that used it, and it opened a hole in her sinuses that required surgery and building her a new nose.
I used Sunspot ES (http://amzn.com/B0011T2HSM) once on a minor skin cancer - it worked perfectly in a few days to kill the cancerous cells and leave the healthy cells only slightly annoyed. The resulting weirdly shaped hole healed over flawlessly. There were pictures of some ladies nose in the research I did for it. She had had cancer of the nose that was in most of her nose, and the cream removed the cancer just fine ... not much nose was left, and what was there was ugly and weirdly shaped. I can only assume that conventional therapy would also have had to remove the nose, and probably kill her with side affects a few years later.

Carmen
26th May 2012, 07:23
My feelings exactly Heyoka!! The person who first put me on to this stuff used to have surgery most years to have cancerous growths cut out!! She said to her specialist one day that she was going to a quack to find another option!! His response was that she should go for it as she had nothing to lose!! At the time she had skin cancer on her cheek that had gone right through to her jaw and she was looking at having teeth and part of her jaw removed!!

She applied the black salve and it cured the cancer. Her specialist was amazed and took numerous photos! Of course, at the risk of losing his specialist ranking he went no further with investigating this.

My friend is absolutely delighted that she now has a means of getting rid of cancers. Each surgery previously had cost her about eighteen hundred dollars an operation!! Not that that was an issue in particular, but it all adds up and is unnesessary expense.

Anchor
26th May 2012, 09:20
I ordered it anyway. While I still have a job, I may as well.

So anyway got the DVD, now all I need to do is watch it :)

I noticed that Elaine Hollingsworth has an article in this months Nexus Magazine that looks very similar to one on Avalon - this time its about Iodine and how replacing it with Bromine, as has been done for some time is generally making a mess of us.

eileenrose
26th May 2012, 09:25
Thanks to everyone for posting. I wasn't clear about this product. The videos (thanks Bill) really helped.

The only other skin cure is probably cannabis. I heard of its being used for cancer skin lesions as well. I use it internally for cancer cells/growths....works well (do follow the instructions on Rick simpson's site for taking it....got to start off at very small dosages and slowly build up over time....easy to take too much and feel awful for a couple of days....I did....oops).

Heyoka_11
26th May 2012, 11:15
Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it :).

Yes, it can be useful, but the element of bunk it contains strips it of overall credibility. To me, it's worthwhile content is simply a sugar coating on a bitter pill.

To quote from post 14....


Oh, and as for Quackwatch, whilst I admit that there is a great deal of worthwhile information on this site, I have also, on several occasions, read utter prejudiced bunk there as well. It is an excellent platform for spreading misinformation, but that's just my opinion. :)

I also appreciated Bill's input in post 21, as for the first time, my suspicions regarding Quackwatch were backed up....


Quackwatch (the medical blog of Stephen Barrett, MD) is a pretty much a pro-FDA mouthpiece. The FDA is not protecting your health. Trust me. :)

It should also be noted that Dr Barrett is a psychiatrist. Some psychiatrists are well-intentioned people, but by no means all. Meanwhile, all psychiatrists are gravely misled in one way or another.

Read his Curriculum Vitae (http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae.html): it gets worse and worse.

In 1980, he co-authored a book called The Tooth Robbers: A Pro-Fluoridation Handbook (http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/tooth_robbers.pdf).

In 1981 came Vitamins and "Health" Foods: The Great American Hustle (http://www.amazon.com/Vitamins-Health-Foods-American-Hustle/dp/0893130737).

And he proudly presents his credentials as a member of The Committee for Skeptical Enquiry (CSICOP (http://www.csicop.org/)), as is the famous debunker James Randi.

I will not waste my time writing any more about this anti-human, destructive clown, and his listen-to-me, brainwashed, status-oriented, mainstream viewpoint.

Excuse the rant: but this kind of drip-feed attack on freedom, sanity, truth, and real health makes me angry too. The future of the well-being of the human race is at stake in issues like this.

MacStar
26th May 2012, 14:10
I watched the Video today and was very impressed.

I've been busy and a bit overloaded so forgive me if this has been brought up before but what's the go with Alpha Omega?
http://www.alphaomegalabs.com/store/salves-and-tonics

and this statement:

"It has been nearly two and a half years since I posted an "Ashwin" -- our periodic update on current events at Alpha Omega Labs . . . begun in 2001 but interrupted frequently, due to my run-ins with the U.S. FDA over the past nine years. (Inmates have no access to internet service in U.S. federal prison, apart from a pathetically neutered email service, called "Corrlinks".)
Since the destruction of our lab in the U.S. by the FDA in 2003, a host of books have flooded the market concerning the corruption of the orthodox medical community. When Cathryn and I first began working in this business in 1990, people still talked about reforming modern medicine. Today, the orthodox community has morphed into a crime syndicate of such breathtaking magnitude that the concept of "reform" is increasing being treated as naive. It isn't so much that orthodoxy has been so blatant in abandoning even the faintest whiff of moral or ethical authority in their quest for greater profits -- but rather, that they take such enormous delight in displaying their contempt for even a modicum of common decency.
A testament to this "over the top" state of orthodox medicine are the documented facts concerning my kidnapping and extraordinary rendition on December 2, 2009. Top officials here in Ecuador have acknowledged that a substantial number of laws were broken during this escapade, all of which I now document in Chapter 3, Section 3 of Meditopia®.
Just as nauseating as the behavior of governmental jackbooted thugs in their quest to please their true masters in the pharmaceutical industry, has been the audacious acts of counterfeiters of our products.
I can think of none that have been more callous than the activities of Bevan Potter and Elaine Hollingsworth in Australia. Allow me to explain:

In October, 2008, I wrote about a clearly devious ploy that Elaine orchestrated in a scandalous attempt to get the public to believe that she and Bevan Potter were making "the real Cansema®" -- and that Cathryn and I were endorsing it!
Never mind that Cansema® is our U.S. registered trademark, and we have used this tradename continually since the early 90's -- interrupted only by five years between my unjust imprisonment and the re-establishment of our lab in Ecuador.
Never mind that Bevan Potter got into the business only AFTER he provided us with a glowing testimonial concerning the effectiveness of our product. He amplified the problem by ignoring Cathryn, my wife and this company's co-founder, by repeatedly ignoring civil requests to stop calling his product Cansema®, and desist from falsely telling the public that I personally gave him "the formula" -- which has been steadily improved over the past 20 years -- while I was in prison.
Never mind that with the online maintenance of Meditopia®, we provide the most complete history of escharotic preparations available anywhere. That much of our work is uncompensated, or "pro bono," so as to educate the general public.
Never mind that we are the only ones -- to my knowledge -- to provide, free to the public, a video demonstration of how one can actually make a basic escharotic preparation in their own home.
Never mind that documented cases of botched results from dealers such as Jennifer Wilson and Bevan Potter were so great -- with many clients not being able to get effective customer support -- that for years we maintained a Compensation for Fake Product program so that the entire field of escharotic preparations would not be tarnished as a result. (We only discontinued the program when it became clear that not even WE could financially support the compensation of all the deceived parties.)

As in the case of the FDA, there is no moral or ethical line that cannot be crossed with these people. Elaine, in particular, understands the truth about the corruption of the unholy alliance between government and Big Pharma and does a good job of articulating this position in her work. And what's why her latest ploy is so aggravating. Simply put -- she knows better.
This week (beginning March 25th) we began to get reports that Elaine Hollingsworth was responding to attempts by Australia's FDA twin sister, TGA (Therapeutic Goods Authority), to make "black salves" unavailable to consumers. We would have to applaud such an effort because making people more aware of the tyranny behind modern medicine is the very reason we put out Meditopia® in the first place.
But she doesn't stop there.
In a massive email campaign sent all over Australia, she goes on to tell consumers that they shouldn't deal with Alpha Omega Labs -- "because I don't trust them." No further basis for her condemnation is provided. Why? Because she undoubtedly remains miffed that we caught her deceiving the public with her "Cansema video" in the first place, and the temptation to slander us for having caught her with her hand in cookie jar was just too irresistible.
And the problem doesn't end there.
It isn't enough that we caught her red-handed misinforming the public at the conclusion of her previous scandal. Now we have to spend time addressing scores of letters we have received from frightened consumers who do not appear to know that when they call us they are addressing the very people who pioneered the industry in the first place -- the very people whose highly efficacious formulas form the coattail that Elaine Hollingsworth, Bevan Potter, Jennifer Wilson, and others, have been riding for years . . . all the while biting the hand that feeds them.
This kind of backbiting saddens me greatly.
On what authority do those of us in the alternative community operate if we don't behave any better than those in Big Pharma? How are we any different from these horrifically evil governmental bodies if we can't replace the effort to "make more money" with a real commitment to safety, efficacy, and low cost? When you deliberately bad-mouth products that you know are effective just because you want to re-direct someone to your store or shop, how is that any different from the kind of "Big Pharma" behavior those of us in the alternative community have been excoriating for years? We lament the official suppression of the work of pioneers like R.R. Rife, Harry Hoxsey, William F. Koch, Nikola Tesla, and others -- so how is the underhanded work of Elaine Hollingsworth any different?
If medicine -- either as taught in the orthodox, alternative, or integrative communities -- never has an opportunity to ascend to something greater than money-making, on what basis do we hold hope that the current condition can improve?
Alternative medicine, if it ever hopes to remain viable at the table of modern health care, must address something more than what it does. It must address what it is. And what it is must stand in stark contrast to the cesspool that is part and parcel of the current system -- one where only tyranny prevails.


Greg Caton --- Founder
Alpha Omega Labs
Guayaquil, Ecuador "

Link to free downloads:
http://www.meditopia.org/video.htm

I'm confused,have we made the situation worse???

Did I fund Elaine's project if this is true?

ThePythonicCow
26th May 2012, 14:33
Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it :).

Yes, it can be useful, but the element of bunk it contains strips it of overall credibility. To me, it's worthwhile content is simply a sugar coating on a bitter pill.


Ah - I entirely agree ... FDA bunkem. I was being sarcastic, saying that one could make a list of what Quackwatch attacks, and use that list as a starting point for what might be worthwhile.

MacStar
26th May 2012, 14:58
Yes Paul and Heyoka_11 I agree.

As pertains to the post above yours of mine,I recevied an email from ozhare and his perspective:

"Hi mate.
If we put aside this valuable salve for a moment and look from a higher
position there is a lesson here.
There is a darker place (corrupt, wanting of wealth,fame,power over people and directing innocent people towards it)
and another place (ripped off, abused, suppressed. then freed to help again. sometimes at no cost it would seem).
There is energy exchanged/ traded here. A profit and deficit for all involved that links you all together energetically.
Balance will be brought to the situation if not today, tomorrow. The universal laws err ever so slightly towards justice
and the light of the prime creator. Everyone will get there lesson from this situation. Even if your input is only money
you will help these people get their lesson. Just pisses you off when those that should work together don't. or are they
for a higher lesson.;-) "

RunningDeer
26th May 2012, 15:20
I used Sunspot ES (http://amzn.com/B0011T2HSM) once on a minor skin cancer - it worked perfectly in a few days to kill the cancerous cells and leave the healthy cells only slightly annoyed.

Thanks, Paul. I just placed my order. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bliss.gif

About a month ago, I ordered “Grandmas Black Salve (http://www.GrandmasBlackSalve.com/)”. The instructions were to keep it in the refrigerator. It hasn’t been opened. Do you or anyone else know if it goes bad once it is opened?

I figured if I have it...I’ll never need it. (in my non-medical opinion) http://forums.newtorrents.info/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

Carmen
30th August 2013, 21:56
I know there are other threads about alternative cures and treatments for cancer but I think black salve deserves a thread of its own.

As I said in another post I am experiencing melanoma on my face near the bridge of my nose. Black salve only works on cancer. Where there is no cancer there is no reaction.

I applied black salve to a small reddish spot on the left side of my nose about five days ago. It reacted for awhile, then settled down. There is still a scab on the spot which I try to keep moist but otherwise if is healing well. Yesterday I noticed two little red marks on the right side of my nose, very close to the bridge, applied black salve and I've had a much more dramatic reaction this time! It was painful for much longer and I can still feel it working now. On waking this morning both of my eyes are swollen, the right one more so than the left. If I hadn't done the research on this product and understood clearly what would happen in the healing process, I'd be rather panicky right now. Now I really look like I've been in a fight!

There is no way I would allow a surgeon to dig out this cancer because there is no guarantee that surgery would get it all. Surgery seems in many cases to spread cancer elsewhere in the body whereas black salve pulls on all the roots of cancer and brings it to the surface. After its done its work, the core drops out which leaves a hole where the cancer has been. The body will then fill in that hole, amazingly. I have seen this on video but also with friends and family who have used black salve.

I wouldn't recommend using this product on anyone else's say so! One must do their own research and satisfy themselves as to what they are doing! Same with anything, be your own authority!

brenie
1st September 2013, 18:47
Carmen good to hear you are getting on top of the problem.
Been there done that had all the same reactions, swelling, black eye etc:
The spot I tackled was just below my rt: eye, about 2 year ago.
Like you say if you have done a little research you are not too surprised when you wake with the swelling, and a week or so later a hole you could post a letter in !
I think my only mistake was not to apply BS again as the hole (and it was a hole) filled in, and the skin smoothed over.
I have just recently had to attack the beast again, but no fears, BS really does what they say, (and probably a lot more).

Wishing good health for the future.

Regards, Brenie.

Carmen
1st September 2013, 20:24
Wow, all the other posts are gone!

Daozen
3rd September 2013, 02:55
Wow, all the other posts are gone!

Did you rub any on your screen?

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I went to the local herbalist on Sun and she refused to sell me the raw product. Said it was dangerous. So I'll get some online.

Anyone know a good source?

Carmen
3rd September 2013, 03:51
Well, in the movie, 'One Answer to Cancer' they list the ingredients and demonstrate how to make it. I reckon that movie is a 'must see' to understand black salve and how to apply it.

Haha! I must have rubbed it on the screen, or the hacker did!!

Carmen
3rd September 2013, 07:17
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Date: Fri Aug 30 18:12:00 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

Thanks to all responders. Recap1, I have not visited the doctor to get diagnosis! It would mean being leaned on to get caught up in the system!! So, what would happen after I have healed would be the comment that it couldn't have been cancer! I know, sounds cynical. This is what happened when my daughter used black salve on her leg. We were pretty sure it was squamous cell carcinoma, but after it healed the doctor said "No, it couldn't have been!!"

The old me would have been scared out of her whits and gone rushing to the doctor, but with this I have no angst. I will use the rife machine as well. I will attempt to post a short video of a woman who cured herself cancer through black salve. This particular cancer is considered I curable! As she said. "As far as cures go, I'm it!"

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Date: Fri Aug 30 18:14:13 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

http://youtu.be/9ooNHlB5UEU

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Date: Fri Aug 30 18:47:05 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

A while ago I had dinner with my daughter and her family. Our local doctor and her family were there also guests. Liz, our doctor is a great doctor and very open minded. She researches widely and uses lots of alternative methods, rife machine, vitamin D prescriptions for winter ills, and is fully supportive of parents not wishing to immunise their children. In short she's a breath of fresh air in our community. Her husband is a cancer researcher at the Otago Medical School. It was his comment to me that cancer research had not progressed in fifty years that prompted me to suggest that we show these two the DVD on Aldarra and black salve.

It was really interesting. The DVD ran smack dab into all their beliefs and their medical training! He mainly listened and made the odd comment. She could not cope. She giggled in parts. I felt like slapping her and telling her to settle down and just listen! I was really surprised at her reaction, but I guess I shouldn't have been. She was quite negative about the black salve to patients who suggested it, citing scarring issues. She has since talked to my daughter Amber about it again and admitted she may have been hasty in her evaluation.

As I've said in another post people have to do their own research on this subject and take as informed a decision as they can.

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Date: Fri Aug 30 20:43:19 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

Here is a link to the you Tube short on One Answer to Cancer

http://youtu.be/ogQwAxiQ2iU

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Date: Fri Aug 30 22:24:17 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: help please, thyroid cancer
Post:

Flash, I feel for you. Much love and support coming your way. First of all google "One Answer to Cancer" In this DVD is an account of a nurse who had cancer of the thyroid. She refused conventional treatment and with a colleague proceeded to treat her thyroid cancer with black salve. I would highly recommend buying and watching this DVD. At the moment I'm treating myself with black salve for melanoma on my face. Do the research. Be happy with what you decide to do.

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Date: Fri Aug 30 23:10:16 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

Right now my face looks like I was on the losing end of fifteen rounds of boxing!! The right side of my face is quite swollen and my right eye is red and half shut!! ****! Not that good looking I'm afraid. I can still feel it working. There is a kind of pressure in my face, my nose especially.

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Date: Sat Aug 31 06:13:38 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Black Salve
Post:

Yes, twin fig, Im taking plenty of vitaminC, and a mineral supplement. I hadn't been taking anything recently so thought I needed to. Also the first spot has now got a scab on it. I keep this moist. Your moles will only react to the black salve if they contain abnormal cells. My granddaughter used salve on a mole of hers, didn't do a thing, no redness, no nothing.

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Date: Sat Aug 31 16:19:42 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Deforestation - the scar of man
Post:

Deforestation is one of the main reasons I am implementing holistic management on my farm. I intend it to be an example of how to run a successful farm on dry land at low cost. No fertiliser applied, just what the animals provide and all systems, mineral, water, biological all in balance and improving year after year. This system serves to bring desert lands back into thriving grasslands with no need to be cutting down forest. It pains me to see trees felled.

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Date: Sat Aug 31 17:00:32 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Is Diet Related to World Peace / True Freedom / Anarchy?
Post:

No, but lack of food, starvation is directly related to war, always has been.

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Date: Sun Sep 1 01:52:13 2013
Poster: Carmen
Thread Title: Re: Deforestation - the scar of man
Post:

So, you starting to see why this holistic management model has excited me so much?!

witchy1
3rd September 2013, 13:04
Hi, my post was caught up in the hacking. Paul kindly found it and here it is.

I have used black salve /cansema on myself and my partner. No reactions on him but I had a reaction to a freckly thing on underside of left arm. I think I did it wrong and have been left with a crappy scar about 1cm round for a 2mm lesion. I can still see where the freckle was. This was the only thing on my body that reacted our of about 5 things, so it was no doubt in my mind active. I used too much product hence the big scar.

Would I use it again. Yes. It definately punches above its weight. They have been using Zinc chloride (I think thats the most active ingredient) since the late 1800's with great success as it says above. Doctors in GB used this with flour initially with great success. If you search for escarotic you will get a ton of information. As always make up your own mind, but the medical profession dont like it.

Delight
3rd September 2013, 14:02
I will repost the pdf. I think it is a good reference.
Eggplant was referenced and I read about it and I think eggplant is wonderful!

http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=143

Selene
3rd September 2013, 15:51
Here's my lost post:

Recap, your point about a follow up exam is an excellent one, always worth doing just to be safe.

I've no idea whether black salve (bloodroot) can do anything for skin cancer as such, but I can tell you from my own experience it does a heckuva job removing other anomalous skin cells with better-than-surgical precision.

All my life, I've had a tiny dark mole right at the center of my cleavage. I'd always considered it a beauty mark, or perhaps a romantic scar from being run through with a rapier in a previous life; who knows? But in the last few years it seemed to have grown unwieldy and I decided Id like it reduced if not removed. My dermatologist warned me that reduction was not an option and removal would leave a surgical scar. Not good.

So after some research, I decided to try black salve (the Dermatend brand available from Amazon.com) What the heck; I could always go back for surgery, right? An improbably small tube arrived, and I dutifully followed the directions.

Wow.

After about ten days with a tiny bandaid over the spot, the sucker fell off cleanly. The pink skin left behind faded to normal color over about four months.

Now there is nothing there, no scar, no trace, no sign whatsoever of something that's been there all my life. Only perfect skin.

Bloodroot, for my money, is absolutely expert at seeking out and destroying cells that are not perfectly formed, or normal, or average. It destroys them deep below the skin surface as well, since my mole had roots dug deep into my skin. And it seems to work without affecting normal skin cells.

Certainly worth a try. But follow up with your doctor, just to be sure.

Hints:

-The secret to success seems to lie in sufficient abrasion or scraping of the skins surface before applying the bloodroot. Dermatend supplies a small nail file for the purpose. Use it, more than you think you need, keep rubbing before applying. And rub some more. The skin surface must be thoroughly broken to allow the bloodroot to penetrate.


- Patience is everything. After you've applied the blood root and a bandaid, wait. Wait. Wait a few more days again. Wait a week or more. Let the skin thingy fall off by itself. This ensures that the new skin underneath has time to rebuild without scarring. Don't pick. Don't peek. Just wait.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Selene

Daozen
4th September 2013, 17:04
Scarring worries? Coconut oil might soften the effect of Black Salve.

Good prices on ebay...

Carmen
4th September 2013, 17:53
I use coconut oil all the time. It's a great natural moisturiser. The swelling of my face is going down now. I'm sleeping a lot. It's really not a case of apply black salve and carry on working. To me, it's a bit like a natural operation. I've had to listen to my body and get lots of rest. Also it looks so horrible I've had to confine myself to home. If I had had no idea of what would happen I would have freaked out entirely and rushed off to a doctor! There is obviously different cancers and the cancer on the right side of my nose was different from that on the left side judging by the reaction to the black salve. I'm happy that I'm getting rid of this melanoma. I'm also aware of the fungal/parasite connection to cancer. I am using the rife machine for parasites and also detoxification. The person who sells the rife machines advised three days of parasite cleansing using the machine twice a day, one holding the rods and the other the paddles on the feet. Next three days of toxicity cleanse. Then cancer after that. So, it's quite a rigmarole I'm putting myself through. It sure beats going under the knife though. I will let you know how it pans out.

NancyV
4th September 2013, 21:46
I also have used coconut oil for many things for many years but I found another oil that works better for scarring, reddish areas on the face and dark or age spots. It's emu oil. I never thought I'd even try anything besides coconut oil since it's so great for the body, inside and outside, and for cooking, but I started reading about emu oil and decided to try it. It worked faster and noticeably better for me mainly in stopping the mild rosacea I was starting to have on my cheeks and around my nose. I have bought emu oil for several years from this place: http://emuoildepot.com/. Of course anyone who is a vegan won't want to be using emu oil!!

How great that you're experimenting with different healing modalities, Carmen! I had a jar of black salve for years and used it for various things on myself and for others. Powerful stuff! I think I'll get some more since mine dried out or was used up years ago. It would be good to have around. Originally I used a product called Cansema, from Alpha Omega Labs. They now have changed the name to Amazon Black Tropical Salve and sell it for US and Canada here: http://www.herbhealers.com/store/salves-and-tonics. There is another site for other countries. Their salves are very high quality.

It's so much more empowering to experiment on yourself without going to doctors. I get so very bored and annoyed when I have to listen to a doctor tell me what little they know and criticize what I have found to be successful, so I have avoided doctors my whole life unless it was an absolute necessity. Yes, they are great to have available in an emergency, but for normal things I do not listen to their advice unless it makes absolute sense to me. It's so easy to do research on the internet now. When I was younger I subscribed to several natural and alternative health magazines since we didn't have the internet, but that worked too. It's just a LOT easier and faster now.

If or when I get cancer I will definitely NOT be doing any of the normal allopathic treatments recommended by a doctor. In fact the only reason I might even go to a doctor would be to get a diagnosis if I wasn't fairly sure about what I was dealing with. Normally I can determine things through researching the symptoms online. Even when I had a stroke I only went to a doctor ONCE, just to make sure it wasn't a heart attack as I was not sure whether it was a heart attack or stroke since some of the symptoms were the same. When I found out it wasn't a heart attack I knew it was a stroke. The doctor then said "of course now you need to have a lot more tests and then we'll start treatment." I said "Thanks, but no thanks!", trying to not giggle. They always get so shocked when I refuse to participate in their normal modus operandi. LOL.....So, Carmen, enjoy your ongoing experiments and I'm sure you will solve your health challenges if you just persist!

Carmen
4th September 2013, 22:21
Thanks Nancy. I do have some emu oil products. I will contact the company and get some moisturising oil. Good .tip! The ugly pill is starting to wear off! I'm not scaring the horses any more!! Haha

Carmen
6th September 2013, 23:10
It's now a week since I applied the black salve to the right side of my nose. A week of my face swelling to the point that my right eye was vertually closed. It was a bit painful and I was very sleepy and I obeyed my body's indications and slept heaps. Now the eschar, I think that's how you spell it, is just sitting on the spot. The spot is a large crator in my nose! Clean and pink underneath. The eschar looked very nasty and pusy, but it was no infection as there was no smell. The redness and swelling is all gone and I feel great. My body will gradually fill in the crator so my nose will be complete again.

Black Salve is called 'natures scalpel'. It's a great description of what it does.

ulli
8th September 2013, 22:17
Thanks for all the info here, Carmen.
How is it going?
A family member has been battling with skin cancer for years, first surgical removal, then Efudix cream, which has done the job quite well, until now. But more keeps appearing, so now I found the most convincing treatment is blending organic eggplant with white vinegar, and making a poultice with that. Every couple of days applying orange oil. Will let you know how that works, according to the testimonies the results are faster than the Black Salve. Whether they are less messy remains to be seen.

Carmen
8th September 2013, 22:28
Yes, Ulli, the hole left when the eschar fell out was quite large and crator like! That was just yesterday morning. Today I estimate that the hole is fifty per cent filled in. I feel great and have no pain. On the other side of my nose where I first treated with salve its all healed with just a slight indication where it had been. I did and do keep the area moist and covered. I've also kept up my mineral and vitamin C intake. Also I have been doing parasite and detox cleansing on my rife machine. I'm really pleased with the result so far.

Bill Ryan
29th August 2016, 17:33
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Folks, a longstanding and greatly loved Avalon member here has a close friend who absolutely needs this and has been told he only has a short time to live. He's in the UK.

Does any UK member have any, or know where it can be bought?

Citizen No2
29th August 2016, 17:42
I don't have any but a shop where I am has it.

How much is needed?

Alternatively, try here(UK): http://herbactive.co.uk/blacksalve.php


R

MorningSong
29th August 2016, 18:34
I just saw this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92640-Suggestions-for-Alternative-treatment-for-facial-tumor&p=1090585&viewfull=1#post1090585

It can be ordered from here also:
http://in2herbs.co.uk/cansema-black-topical-salve-22g/

And here:
https://lozzswellnessstore.co.uk/shop/herbal-remedies/creams-salves/black-herbal-salve-30g/

Bill Ryan
29th August 2016, 20:14
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Many thanks indeed (for the two posts above) -- very much appreciated. I've notified my friend straight away.

This stuff can literally work miracles if a tumor has broken surface, or is on the skin, and the Salve can make physical contact with it. The videos and images on the net are all a little gruesome, but they're highly, highly impressive.

Daozen
29th August 2016, 22:13
It looks like this has been solved, but on Ebay there are many listings for 10-15 pounds. This one ships from Sheffield:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10g-Authentic-Organic-Bloodroot-Black-Drawing-Salve-Balm-/252402906766?hash=item3ac462b68e:g:QTgAAOxy2CZTahA4

Ewan
30th August 2016, 10:44
I don't have any but a shop where I am has it.

How much is needed?

Alternatively, try here(UK): http://herbactive.co.uk/blacksalve.php


R

I assume that link worked for you yesterday but I just clicked it and got an Account Suspended message?

Callista
30th August 2016, 13:07
This is where I get my Black Salve from - we also use the capsules.

https://www.bestonearthproducts.com

Best if you get the salve which has DSMO because it gets into the cells more effectively. I have successfully removed half a dozen eschars using this product. You will need pain killers - I will not use pharmaceuticals but use homepathic Hepar Sulph and Rhus Tox, along with Arnica of course.

much love
Callista

Bill Ryan
29th August 2022, 19:12
:bump:

I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?

There are allopathic web articles everywhere that say it's dangerous (etc etc). Does any reader know of anyone who's somehow been harmed by using it? What seem to be the downsides, besides (apparently) maybe some pain while it does its thing?

Many thanks indeed for any up-to-date and reliable testimonials that I can pass on. :thumbsup:

silver birch
29th August 2022, 20:07
I have tried a homemade "black salve" as it is hard to be sure of the composition of any readymade product today.
The reason is that in most countries, any product containing the effective ingredients (mainly zinc chloride) is illegal.
See link for more info and recipes.

https://docslib.org/cansema-black-salve-recipe-1

The dangerous part of this healing method, is that the salve only can affect a few millimeters of the skin, resulting in
a healed surface but still deep cancer ...
When I did it on a small spot on my breastbone (thin skin), the cancer healed but I had a small nodule under the skin
laying passive for a few years.
When it started feeling irritated again I used psychic methods like autohypnosis to get it to the surface, and healing.

To sum this story up, I can recommend the zinc chloride based salve with DMSO, IF you have a thin growth and use
a good amount of salve, ev two applications, and visit The Scalpel Man if the healing is not complete.

Sue (Ayt)
29th August 2022, 21:20
Just an anecdote, but I had a small annoying darkish spot around 15 years ago which I treated with a paste of DMSO and baking soda (to raise the PH quickly and deeply). I mixed a little up, applied it with a q-tip, and put a band-aid over it. Then I scrubbed it each morning with a washcloth in the shower and reapplied. To my surprise, one morning a week or so later, the whole darkish spot dissolved right off onto the washcloth leaving a scooped out shallow hole underneath. There is still a lighter area scar left, although the skin is smooth and new.
(This was one of my experiments that worked.)

Brigantia
29th August 2022, 22:19
Just an anecdote, but I had a small annoying darkish spot around 15 years ago which I treated with a paste of DMSO and baking soda (to raise the PH quickly and deeply). I mixed a little up, applied it with a q-tip, and put a band-aid over it. Then I scrubbed it each morning with a washcloth in the shower and reapplied. To my surprise, one morning a week or so later, the whole darkish spot dissolved right off onto the washcloth leaving a scooped out shallow hole underneath. There is still a lighter area scar left, although the skin is smooth and new.
(This was one of my experiments that worked.)

These are very interesting posts! Alternative health is of great interest seeing as our NHS is tumbling down a deep chasm so it looks like we're on our own with our health, also natural remedies are always better and less harmful IMO.

I've looked through the previous page and didn't find the answer - what's DMSO?

Sue (Ayt)
29th August 2022, 22:28
These are very interesting posts! Alternative health is of great interest seeing as our NHS is tumbling down a deep chasm so it looks like we're on our own with our health, also natural remedies are always better and less harmful IMO.

I've looked through the previous page and didn't find the answer - what's DMSO?

PA has some threads about DMSO. It is available on Amazon, and elsewhere. Not sure about the status in the UK, though.

DMSO Info
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74073-DMSO-Info&p=867320&viewfull=1#post867320

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43636-DMSO...-Suggestions&p=465720&viewfull=1#post465720

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76294-Positive-effects-through-using-DMSO-on-Rheumatic-inflammations-Morbus-Bechterew&p=892388&viewfull=1#post892388

Brigantia
29th August 2022, 22:35
Thanks Sue! It seems that it's not been suppressed in the UK, I found it on Ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353845221975?campid=5338623317&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=CjwKCAjwx7GYBhB7EiwA0d8oe-PDWHQpf-NXWW4lAC2_n3UEVuvasN-PP75pQ81cPAYFln6C7e-QfxoCMiQQAvD_BwE&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1jcW6eYsSSJCm4XKh5Gm1qA76&customid=CjwKCAjwx7GYBhB7EiwA0d8oe-PDWHQpf-NXWW4lAC2_n3UEVuvasN-PP75pQ81cPAYFln6C7e-QfxoCMiQQAvD_BwE&gclid=CjwKCAjwx7GYBhB7EiwA0d8oe-PDWHQpf-NXWW4lAC2_n3UEVuvasN-PP75pQ81cPAYFln6C7e-QfxoCMiQQAvD_BwE).

Harmony
30th August 2022, 02:07
:bump:

I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?

There are allopathic web articles everywhere that say it's dangerous (etc etc). Does any reader know of anyone who's somehow been harmed by using it? What seem to be the downsides, besides (apparently) maybe some pain while it does its thing?

Many thanks indeed for any up-to-date and reliable testimonials that I can pass on. :thumbsup:


I first came across this product when a friend used it many years ago with great success. Since then I have used it on suspicious little areas that have been exposed to the sun over the years and it has worked very well. If the spot isn't "needing" the salve nothing happens. If it is "needing" the salve you will know it fairly soon after application, and just use as directed.

Bill Ryan
30th August 2022, 14:41
I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?Many thanks for all the replies! :thumbsup:

My friend asks — can she have the spot on her arm excised (cut out, which seems to be a simple thing to do), and then apply the Cansema to make sure everything's okay?

9ideon
30th August 2022, 14:59
I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?Many thanks for all the replies! :thumbsup:

My friend asks — can she have the spot on her arm excised (cut out, which seems to be a simple thing to do), and then apply the Cansema to make sure everything's okay?

It's also called Drawing Salve (https://www.amazon.com/Amish-Origins-Salve-Ointment-Ounce/dp/B00RCDRNIA?th=1) and can be freely bought at Amazon (twelve something).

silver birch
30th August 2022, 17:50
I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?Many thanks for all the replies! :thumbsup:

My friend asks — can she have the spot on her arm excised (cut out, which seems to be a simple thing to do), and then apply the Cansema to make sure everything's okay?

I think it may be counterproductive and painful ...
The smart thing with zinc chloride/DMSO is that you can heal superficial, that is NOT deep cancer by yourself at a very low cost, and without
the risk of getting evil germs in the hospital.
When The Scalpel Man excise a spot he always takes a little more than the growth to be sure of getting everything out.
There may be a risk for complications if you put black salve in a rel deep sore, methinks.
I would prefer letting it heal, use diet and psychic methods to confirm the healing.

Bill Ryan
30th August 2022, 18:44
Thanks! That's all very helpful.

A few more related questions: :thumbsup: (The first seems to be the most important)


How long does the Black Salve (Cansema) take to work once first applied?
How much does one use per application?
How often does one re-apply it?
Is it like any other ointment, needing to be covered with a small bandage?

silver birch
30th August 2022, 19:17
Thanks! That's all very helpful.

A few more related questions: :thumbsup: (The first seems to be the most important)


How long does the Black Salve (Cansema) take to work once first applied?
How much does one use per application?
How often does one re-apply it?
Is it like any other ointment, needing to be covered with a small bandage?


The zinc chloride has instant effect on cancer, but not so much on healthy skin,
and total treatment time may be around three or four days with the salve, and
then just a clean compress till it's healed, that is around one week or more.

Use about two to three mm layer and protect surrounding area with vaseline if possible.

IF you choose to re-apply it, I would guesstimate the optimal time is one day, removing
most of the old black salve layer (hardcore option).

Please cover with expensive compress (like Tegaderm by 3M) or adhesive if not integrated in the compress
to avoid contanimation of clothes, surrounding skin and such.

Leave for several days before replacing the compress. Watch for red lines leading from the area as you may
have a sepsis going which will send you to the doctors.
The best practice before you start the operation is to clean the area several cm around the supposed cancer
with iodine solution or chlorhexidine to minimize the risk for infection.

Bill Ryan
30th August 2022, 19:21
The zinc chloride has instant effect on cancer, but not so much on healthy skin,
and total treatment time may be around three or four days with the salve, and
then just a clean compress till it's healed, that is around one week or more.

Wow, that's crazy-fast. :muscle: I had no idea it worked that quickly!

I really do appreciate all your detailed answers. I'll pass them all on, and I'll most definitely report back. :thumbsup:

Satori
30th August 2022, 22:49
:bump:

I was reading this thread because a friend of mine has a small skin spot on her arm that might possibly be skin cancer. Has anyone now reading this successfully used Cansema (Amazon Black Salve), or know anyone who's used it?

There are allopathic web articles everywhere that say it's dangerous (etc etc). Does any reader know of anyone who's somehow been harmed by using it? What seem to be the downsides, besides (apparently) maybe some pain while it does its thing?

Many thanks indeed for any up-to-date and reliable testimonials that I can pass on. :thumbsup:

My wife had skin cancer, specifically melanoma, about 10 years ago. She had two “moles” surgically excised from her back. She then went to a facility in Oklahoma and had black salve applied to her melanoma. She has been cancer free with no recurrences.

I can ask her for the details if that helps.

Satori
30th August 2022, 23:27
Native Americans in the USA routinely use black salve on skin moles. If you live near an Indian Reservation, or know someone who does, you can probably obtain the product. I’m sure there are other ways to obtain it too.

If applied to a mole, and if the mole is cancerous, it will dissolve the mole, so to speak, and prevent or remedy the cancer. If it is applied and nothing happens, that is, the mole remains, then it is not cancerous and no worries.

If there is cancer present, you do not have to first surgically excise the mole for the black salve to work.

The product works so, therefore, it is illegal in the USA.

Edit. My wife tells me there is also a capsule form of the product.

Bill Ryan
30th August 2022, 23:34
To add to the collection of web pages and articles posted on this thread quite a few years ago, here are a couple of up-to-date pages that I found which are detailed, specific and very easy to understand. They're 100% consistent with all the testimonials and information shared by everyone here. :thumbsup:


Cansema Instructions for Topical (Skin Cancer) Applications
(http://altcancer.net/can5.htm)https://altcancer.net/can5.htm



How Cansema Works: A Pictorial Demonstration
https://altcancer.net/can2.htm

bluestflame
30th August 2022, 23:58
obtained some black cumin seeds ( nigella sativa) the other day am going to see if i can get them growing

silver birch
31st August 2022, 17:28
To add to the collection of web pages and articles posted on this thread quite a few years ago, here are a couple of up-to-date pages that I found which are detailed, specific and very easy to understand. They're 100% consistent with all the testimonials and information shared by everyone here. :thumbsup:


Cansema Instructions for Topical (Skin Cancer) Applications
(http://altcancer.net/can5.htm)https://altcancer.net/can5.htm



How Cansema Works: A Pictorial Demonstration
https://altcancer.net/can2.htm


You are right, but there is one thing in the instructions on that site, I would like to change.
They state you can apply the salve with your fingertip.
As all of us having spent time in surgery (my experience is as anesthesiologist assistant) know,
the surgeon spend about five minutes washing her/his hands and brushing the nails with a
nailbrush several times before putting on single use gloves.
We have billions of more or less dangerous bacteria etc under the nails.
I suggest putting on single use gloves before starting the sterilization of area to work on,
and applying the salve with something sterile or the now sterile finger.
The risk is not great, but the consequenses from introducing "meat eating bacteria" or
the like, may be scary.

Iloveyou
31st August 2022, 19:02
Hi! My brother had a home for the elderly and treated many of them with black salve, always successful. He recommended it to several others and heard only success stories, without exception. I witnessed my mother using it over the years for skin- and breast cancer and treated her myself.

One thing: Beware of anything called ‚black salve‘ and sold by whoever without having detailed information regarding ingredients. I‘m afraid the so called drawing salve (in german „Zugsalbe“) is a nice ointment for various things, but is totally different and has nothing to do with the original black salve for cancer treatment. I have a reliable source for anybody living in Europe. And from what I’ve read I‘m sure Cansema is a sincere, authentic and trustworthy source, too.

I‘ve always followed the protocol of Adrian Jones. His book ‚How Black Salve Is Being Used To Treat Skin Cancer in The 21st Century’ is available online (30 days free-trial on scribd.com https://www.scribd.com/document/226268824/How-Black-Salve-is-Being-Used-to-Treat-Skin-Cancer-in-the-21st-Century
He describes the application in great detail. There are some graphic images in it, but it looks exactly like the process unfolding I witnessed many times.

Here‘s another text (65 pages) with a lot of useful information, including the recipe (f.e. it does not contain Zinc Oxide as often claimed, it contains Zinc chloride(!), big difference. http://www.panaceatech.org/Black%20Salve%20Alternative%20Cancer%20Treatment.pdf

Bill Ryan
31st August 2022, 19:24
obtained some black cumin seeds ( nigella sativa) the other day am going to see if i can get them growingBlack cumin seeds are nothing to do with Amazon Black Salve... the ingredients are all listed here:


https://altcancer.net/salve_use.htm

Bill Ryan
9th September 2022, 15:04
Many thanks again to those who posted sound advice and information above. The suspicious spot reacted 100% exactly as predicted to the cansema — and is now healing fast.

:muscle: :sun:

Perdido
31st March 2023, 09:48
After an automobile accident.. 3 blood clots and a large shin open wound.. my immunity dropped.
I ended up beating over 70 skin cancers... from Precancerous cells from previous sun exposure, using Bloodroot.
The deeper ones on my arms and shoulders had to be treated repeatedly..
But that killed them all.
I did end up with some nice scars on my shoulders only. The worst areas.

Pam
31st March 2023, 12:17
After an automobile accident.. 3 blood clots and a large shin open wound.. my immunity dropped.
I ended up beating over 70 skin cancers... from Precancerous cells from previous sun exposure, using Bloodroot.
The deeper ones on my arms and shoulders had to be treated repeatedly..
But that killed them all.
I did end up with some nice scars on my shoulders only. The worst areas.

I have had excellent results with bloodroot as well. I am also becoming much more discerning about corporate made substances so I just wanted to throw another endorsement at bloodroot.