sjkted
26th July 2010, 06:45
Hi All,
First of all, I would like to salute Bill in his new format to research and independently verify facts and details on news items and whistleblowers. IMO, this is a major issue in the alternative media and would also help us gain some credibility in the mainstream.
I think the main problem we have in trying to discern the truth is that we are faced with a very large, complicated, intricate setup that has been established over many decades, much of which is hidden with hierarchies, groups and secret information. We are trying to put the pieces together from the ground up without necessarily having all of the details 100% correct, which is a task that spawns many different fields of study and experiences which are all largely compartmentalized.
Aside from what is happening in the 3D, there is quite a lot happening spiritually. I would say this part is even more difficult to assess as these non-physical forces are not exactly our native domain and it can be even more complicated to figure out what is happening. This is also similar to the ET issue -- it's possible one has had an "experience", the question is what exactly happened.
When Camelot started, I think we all got caught up in the idea of discerning. It's a good idea and I think it's a necessary skill to develop, but I don't think it is enough. With most if not all of the Camelot whistleblowers, I believe they were essentially good people who were trying to get their message out as best as they saw it, but when they said something that provded to be untrue, it didn't mean they were intentionally misleading others.
One thing that has stuck in my mind is in one of George Green's groundcrew books, it says that we as a species will literally need to invent a new way to deal with the situation we are in that has not been used before in history. Violence won't work as we have less gunpower and less resources and aren't skilled at warfare. And, historically speaking, violent change tends to just produce more violence and instability. Acting passive won't work and hasn't worked in the past. And awakening people seems to be making some progress, but the vast majority of the population seems to be slumbering. Many of these people who are sleeping do not want to be awoken -- they aren't stupid, they're just choosing to be more comfortable in avoiding the big issues.
Our situation as a planet is more difficult than it has ever been in recorded history. When one looks at the practical issues such as large populations, destruction of the environment, escalating wars, potential currency/economic collapses, NWO, etc. In addition, every system we have on this planet is completely corrupt and to "fix" them would be something like the so-called de-Nazification process post-WWII Germany. There really is no way to turn back the clock and do a "do over".
The premise is that in order for humanity to survive and do well, there must be a new paradigm.
In light of all of this, I don't feel pessimistic. One thing I like about forums like this is that the members are real people who are searching for the truth like I am. Much of the whistleblower and new age stories are just dogma. Some of these contain truth, but they aren't the same as the living, breathing truth that we are.
I've heard Bill say he is 99.999% sure we will not ascend. I've also heard from other members who support and reject the idea of ascension. I would be interested to hear from everyone:
(1) How do you define ascension? What does it mean to you?
(2) Do you accept my premise that we need a new paradigm on earth in order to survive and do well?
(3) What personal experiences have you had to shape your viewpoint on the new paradigm?
--sjkted
First of all, I would like to salute Bill in his new format to research and independently verify facts and details on news items and whistleblowers. IMO, this is a major issue in the alternative media and would also help us gain some credibility in the mainstream.
I think the main problem we have in trying to discern the truth is that we are faced with a very large, complicated, intricate setup that has been established over many decades, much of which is hidden with hierarchies, groups and secret information. We are trying to put the pieces together from the ground up without necessarily having all of the details 100% correct, which is a task that spawns many different fields of study and experiences which are all largely compartmentalized.
Aside from what is happening in the 3D, there is quite a lot happening spiritually. I would say this part is even more difficult to assess as these non-physical forces are not exactly our native domain and it can be even more complicated to figure out what is happening. This is also similar to the ET issue -- it's possible one has had an "experience", the question is what exactly happened.
When Camelot started, I think we all got caught up in the idea of discerning. It's a good idea and I think it's a necessary skill to develop, but I don't think it is enough. With most if not all of the Camelot whistleblowers, I believe they were essentially good people who were trying to get their message out as best as they saw it, but when they said something that provded to be untrue, it didn't mean they were intentionally misleading others.
One thing that has stuck in my mind is in one of George Green's groundcrew books, it says that we as a species will literally need to invent a new way to deal with the situation we are in that has not been used before in history. Violence won't work as we have less gunpower and less resources and aren't skilled at warfare. And, historically speaking, violent change tends to just produce more violence and instability. Acting passive won't work and hasn't worked in the past. And awakening people seems to be making some progress, but the vast majority of the population seems to be slumbering. Many of these people who are sleeping do not want to be awoken -- they aren't stupid, they're just choosing to be more comfortable in avoiding the big issues.
Our situation as a planet is more difficult than it has ever been in recorded history. When one looks at the practical issues such as large populations, destruction of the environment, escalating wars, potential currency/economic collapses, NWO, etc. In addition, every system we have on this planet is completely corrupt and to "fix" them would be something like the so-called de-Nazification process post-WWII Germany. There really is no way to turn back the clock and do a "do over".
The premise is that in order for humanity to survive and do well, there must be a new paradigm.
In light of all of this, I don't feel pessimistic. One thing I like about forums like this is that the members are real people who are searching for the truth like I am. Much of the whistleblower and new age stories are just dogma. Some of these contain truth, but they aren't the same as the living, breathing truth that we are.
I've heard Bill say he is 99.999% sure we will not ascend. I've also heard from other members who support and reject the idea of ascension. I would be interested to hear from everyone:
(1) How do you define ascension? What does it mean to you?
(2) Do you accept my premise that we need a new paradigm on earth in order to survive and do well?
(3) What personal experiences have you had to shape your viewpoint on the new paradigm?
--sjkted