Arthritis - ideas?

[TigaHawk]

Heya!

A good friend of mine, champion of a fella has Arthritis.


He refuzes to take pain medication for it unless he's dying (doctor says he should be taking 6 painkillers a day, he takes mabe 2 a month)


He's semi-awake, he knows how stuffed up the world is and that the govt is full of lies and all that stuff but i think (found a thread in here somewhere that mentions beestings) some ideas may be a little too far out for him..


So...



Throw you're knowledge at me, please!

[Alie]

Please look into cayenne pepper, turmeric and ginger.

[Billy]

Sorry for your friend, I also have friends and family that suffer from Arthritis. But it really depends on what kind of Arthritis he has.

What was recommended from a sufferer i met in Bosnia who was a Author but could not write anymore until she began her own treament with a high quality " Cider Vinegar " or Apple cider vinegar either taken pure a table spoon maybe twice everyday, or mixed with a juice drink if they cannot handle the taste, after a few weeks she was able to write again. eventually all her joints regained full fuction.

EDIT. I found this one. Vinegar and Honey

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241303/Vinegar-honey-cured-crippling-arthritis-says-delighted-organist.html

More info here
http://kathleen-duffy.suite101.com/apple-cider-vinegar-is-natural--arthritis-remedy-a159755

[Mad Hatter]

Glucosamine Chondroitin in powder form. It may not feel like its doing much but after two weeks try stopping and you'll find out in a big hurry just how effective it actually is. Mark you I don't have full blown athritis but this stuff has done wonders for joints I have abused over many years. (motorbike accidents etc etc)

[Feritciva]

Ok, I recently wrote somewhere "this is my last post,take good care everybody blabla" but this is my profession - natural supplements I mean, so for once I get out of silence.

There are some very good supplements for arthritis - but depending on the type of the problem.

If your friend have osteoarthritis of the knee, glucosamine-chondroitin can make wonders. But he has to use it prefably for 3-6 months. Look for sulphate forms and get at least 1500 mg glucosamine and 1200 mg chondroitin everyday. If he feels pain and stiffness that effects his life quality he can begin with hydrolised collagen (from fish source prefably) for 1 months then switch to glucosamine chondroitin for long term. It is not type-II collagen, you should look for hydrolised collagen.

If he has rheumatoid arthritis which means a lot of inflammation, then type-II collagen is the right supplement. In this case I would also recommend devil claw extracts, excellent natural anti-inflammatory herb.

Cayenne is also a good pain controller, I would recommend it with rose hips if possible. Turmeric and ginger can also be used as spices, no need to take them as supplements if he uses the ones above.

Best health to your friend!

FC

[freebird111777]

Aloe Vera Juice can help :) Aloe Vera juice contains Vitamin A, B, C and E which are powerful anti-oxidants and strong anti-inflammatories at the same time. The body reacts wonderfully to these ingredients by absorbing the harmful toxins which are produced due to inflammation, thereby reducing the swelling caused.

[red_rose]

I've heard turmeric works a treat.

red_rose

[seko]

My mother had arthritis in her hands, when winter came it was painful for her. I gave her MMS for a month and she has no more pain in her hands and the cold winter is not a problem anymore. Although there is a little pain for all the time that pass that didn't take care of it.

[Unicorn]

The advice given here by PA members is excellent. Apart from that, avoid milk, white sugar and coffee.

[toothpick]

Hi TigaHawk
Great idea for a thread, hope you get a mountain of great things to try, for your friend.
Have no advice for you myself except to stay away from conventional medicine, (licensed doctors) all they can do that actually works is to prescribe narcotic medication that is very addictive.
My advice would be, look to homeopathic solutions.
I am going to try the apple cider and honey, sounds pretty good.

[Endity]

I personally use Skinner's Vaporizing Salve for arthhritis and other moans and groans. Its very effective.

[9eagle9]

I am assuming you are speaking about degenaritive arthritis and not RA.

In addition to the herbal and botanicals your friend would do well with ionized foot bath that leeches toxins out of the body. These are offered in therapy salons but after he purchased about four of them in a salon he could buy a serviceable machine on his own that is hugely effective for arthritis.

Arthritis is when the sacs of fluid that cushion joints become toxic and inflammed , a detox foot bath pulls the toxins out through the bloodstream and the pain relief and symptom abatement is pretty remarkeable and typically lasts ten days to two weeks. That emphasizes a need to just have your own machine so one can do the detox once every ten days or so. Takes about a half hour. A serviceable foot bath detox is abotu 120 dolars us, some run up to 800 or more but have a lot of unnecessary bells and whistles.

Then one maintains that state of detox after the footbath by diet and identifying the toxin that is inflitrating the joint. Hard to know but the bath itself can allow one to find out if it's senstivity to one's own bile, or some external influence that is being ingested. Excercize is not recommending until the toxins and inflammation has appreciably abated.

Monoatomic gold treatments work well too if one has access to mono-gold.

A liver detox is recommended.

To further define ask your friend is gout is present with the arthritis, they are often confused and often present at the same time --both conditions point to the inability to process toxins. We can't reasonably avoid all toxins as we live in a toxic world we keep our body in state where it can process and elminate them withotu being effected by them.

The Arthritis isn't the problem its the symptom ,of something else, put it that way.

Is there a white coating present on the tongue during these worst pain episodes?

Do his joints crack when he moves?

Fever with acute sudden onset joint paint?

Spasms accompanied by joint pain?

There's also a hot salt bath that alleviates both the toxins while one sips the same sort of cell salt mixture while bathing. If you bump the thread later to remind I'll post it up.

[Nerge]

I haven't personally tried the following to any great degree (yet) but someone posted it on here recently:

Perhaps he can try to make sure he grounds himself outside on a regular basis; 30 - 60 min a day is best apparently, outside with direct contact with the earth / grass etc.
If that's an issue - due to weather etc - then via a grounding pad of some variety indoors.

Apparently it's supposed to be good for many ailments, especially forms of inflammation / Arthritis; it's a result of our disconnection with nature these days and not going barefoot any more. :)

Here's a vid:

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[spelsylver]

if your friend wants real pain relief have him make a cannabis tincture.

this requires you to have at least an ounce of high grade cannabis or even trim leaves from a recent harvest.

1 bottle of 101 proof peppermint schnapps or Everclear will do the trick. Soak cannabis in alcohol, let soak for 3 days. get a coffee strainer, strain the alcohol into a spray bottle.

Spray tincture on the inside of cheeks. start off with 2-3 squirts for 1st time users to see how ones body will react...this tincture can also be applied to sore areas. soak tincture in a cloth then wrap the cloth around joints that are sore, cover it with saran wrap.

this tincture will remedy most pains... tooth achs, headaches, joint pain, nerve pain. For those of you who don't believe me, it just means you haven't tried it. cannabis is truly a miracle plant and has been used for thousands of years as a healer.

good luck to your friend with arthritis.

[onawah]

I've been using fresh aloe vera gel for a number of years, and it is quite amazing.
I do not recommend the bottled stuff, however, as it is diluted, adulterated and heat-treated.
You can buy aloe vera leaves for consumption (a different strain than the usual variety used for burns) at Mexican markets, or you can order it from Aloe Labs in Harlingen, Texas by calling 800 258 5380. Ask for Mike Hernandez.
They are shipped by UPS; the shipping actually costs more than the leaves themselves, but you get a lot more value for your money than buying the bottled product.
You have to purchase a minimum of 25 lbs. at a time, but these leaves have a shelf life of a month or more if kept cool and dry, with good air circulation.
Once you cut into a leaf, it must be refrigerated and used within a couple of days.
Trim off the prickly edges, then peel off the skin from one side of the leaf and use a spoon to scoop the gel into a blender.
I use a whole leaf (minimum 1 lb.) per day in a fruit juice smoothie.
I think it is what has been keeping me alive more than any other item in my diet, and I will be 64 in July and have multiple health issues.
There is plenty of info on the web about the benefits of aloe, but here is a good place to start:
http://www.naturalnews.com/021858.html

Aloe Vera Juice can help :) Aloe Vera juice contains Vitamin A, B, C and E which are powerful anti-oxidants and strong anti-inflammatories at the same time. The body reacts wonderfully to these ingredients by absorbing the harmful toxins which are produced due to inflammation, thereby reducing the swelling caused.

[astrid]

Do you know what type ?
If he has RA then removing all
Inflammatory foods and upping the
Anti-inflammatory ones changes things
fast . Foods to avoid are all the deadly
Nightshades , tomatoes potatoes capsicum
Chilli . Foods to add are things like olives
Google for more complete lists .
Sleep and exercise also important

[Cilka]

If I were your friend I would do everything possible NOT to take any prescribed medication from the doctors. Prescribed drugs will help a little at the beginning, and eventually they all will stop working and on top of all that he will also develop side effects which will have to be taken care of with more prescribed meds. But your friend seems to understand this game very well.

Has your friend done any major detox? Like with DMSA, MSM or Chlorella? He has to do the detox for at least 6 months first. If he puts too much trust into taking herbs right now he will get disappointed. He has to clean up his body first. Then he should look into Reishi Mushrooms.

[danielle]

A friend of mine cured her artritis with the fruit-vegetable diet.About ten years ago she suffered of arthritis ?(she had pains especially in her hands-I remember her talking that she couln't turn the key
round to start the engine in her car-it was such a big pain for her.Round her bones in her hands she had something like small tumors visible under the skin.She tried three-week fruit-vegetable diet twice-and her tumors round the bones and pain dissapeared and never came back.Than,being on emigration in Ireland she also had early stage of cancer in her uterus-she cured it with chemotherapy pills.Now she has a1,5 year old baby and she is healthy! By the way-she is the opposite of spirituality and she could count only for herself.But her strong will helped her cure her desease.
The author of the fruit-vegetable diet is Polish doctor Ewa Dabrowska.Here is the link:

http://ewadabrowska.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=10&lang=en








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[161803398]

I think you cant just start taking some kind of supplement and expect it to work. You have to treat the whole body. Personally, I would go to an Ayurvedic doctor because I know what they can do and that I won't ever get arthritis. However, there are other options I've heard of.

A friend of mine, at around 28, had arthritis so bad he couldn't turn a door knob. The doctors told him that they could prevent it from getting worse but they couldn't make it any better. He hated those doctors so much he looked like he'd catch fire when he talked about them. Then he changed his diet. Now hes a bush pilot. Basically he stopped eating any kind of meat or dairy and certain vegetables -- red ones. He also took a Sunrider product. I dk if that company is still around. The FDA was constantly banning their stuff coz it worked.

[RunningDeer]

In Macrobiotics, it is suggested that one should not ingest night shade foods such as: eggplant, tomatoes, potatoes (including potato flour), peppers, hot peppers, and condiments containing these products.

And also author Annemarie Colbin, “Food and Healing,” writes “...Nightshade foods may subtly remove calcium from the bones and deposit it in the joints, kidneys, arteries, and other areas of the body where it does not belong.”

[RunningDeer]

The advice given here by PA members is excellent. Apart from that, avoid milk, white sugar and coffee.

The Macrobiotic lifestyle agrees !00% with the above quote by Unicorn.

[greybeard]

I had bad arthritis in my thirties partly due to my hobby of racing sailing dingies and sitting teaching people to drive eight hours a day.
Im fine now.

I joined this association see link

https://www.arthriticassociation.org.uk/

That helped greatly
In addition I started yoga classes.
I also found that it made a big difference to avoid salt completely.
Hope this helps
Chris

[percival tyro]

Good circulation ingredients, examples hot chillies, ginger,. cayenne pepper are recommended but not from the solanum family examples !. ....Hot chilli and cayenne pepper ???, Most cures seem to go hand in hand with a change of diet. I reckon fresh green vegetables and sunshine. For a balance of natural calcium, Magnesium, vitamin K2 and vitamin D. I have found that additional magnesium, example 10ml of milk of magnesia etc. each day has worked for me since taking it for the last couple of weeks, Shoulders and elbows improved range and mobility.

[conk]

Avoidance of grains, particularly corn is advisable. Avoid omega-6 fatty acids, especially the store bought, rancid vegetable oils. Putrid, vile stuff. Most of the advice above is excellent.

[Astar Of David]

If you'd like to cure his ailment then read this published article that has actual people who will vouch for this cure and that it works.
Please read the entire article before jumping to your own conclusions based on what the corporate media has portrayed (there is a reason why media etc tell you that its not a safe treatment because there is no money to be made from a cure but there is money to be made from treatment such as pills so they WANT your friend to consume pills rather than cure his ailment)
Also understand there are two ways of ingesting it with two very different outcomes.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035400_juicing_cannabis_remedies.html

Also eat organic foods. (We are what we eat and if we eat gmo foods that is food that has been genetically modified to grow pesticides inside the plant itself and it's toxic to insects then it also stand to reason that it will also be toxic to any life form including humans who consume it) Please refer to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-IJikX1144&feature=player_embedded

Take Care.

[The Truth Is In There]

he should avoid animal protein, especially meat, cheese and milk and change to a plant based diet with plenty of green veggies and less sweet fruits. eating lots of supplements and substances may relieve the symptoms somewhat but unhealthy eating habits are the main culprit so they should be changed first and foremost.

[blufire]

I have osteoarthritis in my knees and back (I’m a 53 year old female) from hard physical labor (farming and homesteading) and from running track and field through high school and college . . . I was a pentathlete.

My three biggest weapons in keeping screaming joints at bay are:

(1) Keeping my body system ph balanced (6.0 to 7.5) or slightly alkalized not out of balanced alkaline (like many will suggest) I do this by drinking either a glass of purified water with either 2 tablespoons of raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar or ¼ cup of lemon juice and 2 teaspoons of raw unfiltered local honey. The water should be room temperature or even warmed up a bit.

During certain times of the month, around the “dark moon” or “new moon” phase or if I have been abusing my knees, like climbing up and down these mountains I live in now and my knees kick up a bit I will drink a mixture at night right before bed in addition to the morning dose.

(2) I use a supplement daily that contains high levels of bromelain, turmeric, quercitin. This blend of herbs and enzymes work very effectively to remove inflammation, swelling and pain. I also use a high quality calcium product that contains vitamin D, magnesium , copper and zinc. Also vitamin C that contains bioflavonoids. The calcium and vitamin C repair any damaged tissue, cartilage and ligaments. During the summer months I eat lots of green veggies and fruits . . . .grown on my farm.

(3) On days that I have over exerted I take very long hot baths loaded with Epsom salts. I sometimes will add lavender or rosemary to the bath water to calm my system down over all. I buy 50 lb bags of Epsom salts at the farm or feed store. I’m amazed sometimes what the Epsom salt will pull out of my system . . . .very icky. I always drink lots of water and/or lemon honey water. Okay, okay, sometimes I have a margarita too.

I eat meat, dairy, eggs and all the other “low-vibrating, unspiritual” foods too. Our dinner table looks like the All-American farm family table with big pots of roast beef with all the fixins' or brown sugar coated hams or thick cut t-bone steaks or pork chops or fried chicken with all the big bowls of potatoes, gravy, beans, corn, greens. salads, fresh baked breads with homemade butter and desserts that are usually fresh baked pies or breads . . . .sometimes with homemade ice cream. Breakfasts are two or three eggs, sausage, slabs of ham or bacon, or fully loaded omelets sometimes biscuits and gravy or fried potatoes. On quick mornings we have “steel-cut” oats or cream of wheat with raisins or dates.

I would keel over with what many suggest we should eat . . . . Use your common sense and do not make food judgments from an emotional or guilt foundation. Negative emotions and especially guilt laced feelings produce damaging high levels of cortisol and will acidify your system very quickly. When food becomes your enemy you are in a loosing battle for a healthy well balanced system.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Gotu Kola

Bush tucker remedy :-)

Nice one

http://www.herbsarespecial.com.au/free-herb-information/gotu-kola.html

Works every time

N
N

[etm567]

Heya!

A good friend of mine, champion of a fella has Arthritis.


He refuzes to take pain medication for it unless he's dying (doctor says he should be taking 6 painkillers a day, he takes mabe 2 a month)

Throw you're knowledge at me, please!

What kind of arthritis?

There are several herbal/natural remedies for some types of arthritis. I have psoriatic arthritis, and oil of oregano helps for some reason I cannot understand. Some people have found that MMS is very good for rheumatoid arthritis. That may work the same way oil of oregano does, if there are indeed tiny critters causing these various types of arthritis that mainstream medicine refuses to pay attention to (I think I mean mycoplasma).

But, really, oil of oregano does a very good job for me. I stop taking it from time to time, and always have to start taking it again.

ETM

[mind-scape]

Everyone here has some great suggestions. :-)
Diet, exercise, and overall well being will help a lot. A soft martial art like T'ai Chi will do wonders for the joints.

For what it's worth,
A lady I know uses a detoxing applicator on her knees every two or three weeks.
The product has an organic herbal solution on it. A lot of people use it to go down in inches where applied (believe it or not, spot reduction -is- possible.)-- but it also has anti inflammatory properties. When she wraps her knees, it takes down the swelling in her joints (due to arthritis), allowing her body to heal itself. My friends mother used it on her clients for pain (she's a massage therapist and works long hours), and she realized about a week after using it that it completely cured her tennis elbow (a condition that had been giving her extreme pain for over a year). The solution also comes in a gel form (which is what my friends mother used). I'll link you in case you're interested. :-)

https://novae.myitworks.com/Shop/Product/214

Light and Healing to you!
And thanks again everyone for the great suggestions. I've learned a lot from this thread/

[grapevine]

Kombucha

It's holistic and is a catch-all. I can vouch for it personally and it has turned my life around. There's a lot about it on the internet if you want to research it.

[blufire]

I love my Kombucha!!! Brewing some strawberry laced as we speak . . .just got through cutting the berries and cutting a slab of the "mother"

Some of my brews get a little too fermented . . . .if you know what I am saying :o ;)



Kombucha

It's holistic and is a catch-all. I can vouch for it personally and it has turned my life around. There's a lot about it on the internet if you want to research it.

[Ivanhoe]

I want to thank all of you for this info.
My brother has rheumatoid arthritis and I suspect I'm getting osteoarthritis (from injuries and such). (I've had blood work for RH and it's negative. Whew!!!)
Thank you for this info!!

[fathertedsmate]

18 monts ago i was in constant pain,ankles,knees,lower back,fingers bent and twisted,left shoulder deep pain, 3 days ago i ran up (well most of the way) and all the way down a 2000mtr hill, ankles,knees,left hip,all pain free and running smooth,only 2 fingers to straighten,right hip and shoulder nearly clear,my journey has been dealing with heavy metals,now i know athritis,ptsd,stress,depression,asthma,tinnitus,and many more are the results of processes that take place within the body,heavy metals and chemicals,create the conditions for yeast,fungus,mould to grow, the last 18 months for 10 hrs a day the only thing i have worked on has been myself,as i was the only one who had faith in what i was doing,and why i was doing it, to put things right,you need to think totally different from anything you have ever been taught,a good place to start is, understand you are of no value to the system whilst healthy,
the following has been used, first process was, lemons,grapefruit,root ginger,garlic,hempseed oil,water,apple juice, using this combination every 2nd day for 6 wks,cleaned out chemicals,toxins,started to replace essential oils,vit c,removed masses of calcium/plaque,kidney stones.brought life back into fuel supply system,got the lower intestine,gi tract,kidneys,liver,colon,arteries all cleaned out and functioning more efficiently than before,
mms,old protocoll was used,took it up to 22 drops twice a day,untull candida exploded onto the scene,or should i say departed,4 days worth, this process cleaned out masses of heavy metals,test results showed mercury down from 37mcg/l to 1.75 mcg/l that how i know how mms deals with metals,the doctor who arranged the tests couldnt believe the results,mms did in 6 wks what he couldnt promis in 18 months, a week later herximers reaction put a halt to the gung ho meathods,
magnesium oil was introduced,it is used every day rubbed in from head to toe,iodine was introduced 3 months later,applied on foot daily.
hempseed oil/lemons/water taken first thing daily
kefir,live grains,taken daily,
baking soda and lemon taken 3/4 times a week, and always before exercise,
fast foreward 4 months, i was feeling great,thought i was going to make it,was so confident,i started to test mms 2, train of thought was it can do no harm,i only used it because my uncle had been diagnosed with cancer, what happened next frightend me to death,had me in agony in ankles big toe,knees,hips, all burning like a red hot poker,wife was flipping her lid,extreemly worried, 7/8 days later,left foot all numb no feeling in it,stress,tension etc all returning, one morning the system was emptying,and it was masses of thick calcium all pitted with dots of metal,all the pain was gone,and i came off the toilet like zebedi on speed,
mms 2 had destroyed the fungus yeast,mould, that the previous combinations could not move, i am still using it this process has been in place for 10 months,every few weeks i take it for a few days,4 to 8 days later,the palms of my hand go yellow under the skin,the dissolved calcium etc is looking for an escape route, also magnesium levels are now getting there,as the levels build up,it ejects bad calcium which has taken controll at cell level,still working out how to remove it,but my body knows what it is doing,i can feel the calcium build up on my right hip,that is nearly gone,my left shoulder,which i thought was a muscle tear caused by kayaking years ago,turns out to be a build up of calcium,similar to my hip,how do i know,mms 2 goes in, days later pain changes,then calcium ejection then pain dimminishes,
my journey has and still is about removing heavy metals,they are out from the organs,but still in skin tissues, the procedures used have been worked out for mineral,oil and vitamine content,the delivery system and sequence is vital to build the body from cell level,and it has been the hardest thing i have ever done,nothing 22 yrs military comes close to the determination,will power,self belief, that has been required,
but my main driving force has been,the veterans agencys,doctors,psyciatrists,dentist,i trusted them for 10 yrs,they discharged me when i produced results proving the metal content within my body,and had started the repair process in front of them, they would not accept it so i was forced to go it alone,wow what a journey and its not over by a long shot

[Rogerc]

Really depends on the type of arthritis and the progression.

i had hips that were literally killing me - I'm not into pain killers and tried every herb spice and potion known to modern and ancient man.

Finally had X-rays and the head of my femur and cup looked like the first gear in my non-synchro Mini.

The 'use it or lose it' crew were literally tearing my bones apart.

Ten years ago I had bi-lateral total hip replacements and after hell of a lot of discomfort I felt twenty years younger.

Now the only time I think about it is going through security at airports where I set off alarms like WW11 air raid sirens and am grabbed by gun toting imbeciles who think they've caught Osama Bin Laden (prior to his recent demise of course)

I'm made to stand legs akimbo and arms horizontal, (shades of a Leonardo drawing), while I am patted down in a humiliating manner. Never by a good looking female ,sadly more of the gorilla macho type.

Long story short, sometimes the knife is the answer but do try everything first.

[Connecting with Sauce]

This show today maybe worth listening to on this topic...


Barbara Allan -Conquering Arthritis: What Doctors Don’t Tell You Because They Don’t Know – April 9, 2012 (http://www.oneradionetwork.com/health/barbara-allan-conquering-arthritis-what-doctors-dont-tell-you-because-they-dont-know-april-9-2012/)

Patrick's guests are usually top notch... Hope that helps...

[TargeT]

Lots of supplement info here, that is good; here is a thread on supplements that the discovering individual feels will solve all of our health woes (as he traces all disease back to a lack of something)

pretty interesting information & the best / most tested (in court and other wise) supplements I have ever seen:

Dr Joel Wallach:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41572-Why-do-couch-potatoes-live-longer-than-athletes-Dr-Joel-Wallach&highlight=wallach

[DeDukshyn]

Boswellia Serrata and Curcumin (turmeric)

I have seen tonnes of proper research on these two and combined they are definitely better than taking nothing! I had a friend who had Ankylo Spondylosis and after the NSAIDS ate a hole in his stomach it was the only thing that worked for him. (Disclaimer: This is an educated opinion only. ;))

[mosquito]

Some good advice here, and some frankly stupid !

As well as being different types of arthritis, there are other factors to consider, such as modalities. If you have pain which is improved by heat, ginger will be useful, but if your pain is WORSENED by heat, it will be disastrous. Unfortunately, Western medicine fails to take these things into account, so all you're likely to get from a conventional doctor is anti-inflamatories and pain killers. My advice to your friend (and anyone else suffering from arthritis) would be to visit someone who practises either Ayurvedic or Chinese medicine.

[mosquito]

Boswellia Serrata and Curcumin (turmeric)

I have seen tonnes of proper research on these two and combined they are definitely better than taking nothing! I had a friend who had Ankylo Spondylosis and after the NSAIDS ate a hole in his stomach it was the only thing that worked for him. (Disclaimer: This is an educated opinion only. ;))

For anyone wondering - that's "non-steroidal anti-inflamatories" which were developed in order to eliminate the unwanted effects of using corticosteroids. Unfortunately though, NSAIDS (like all drugs) have their own arm-long list of adverse reactions.

[9eagle9]

My mother had problems for the rest of her life after taking them for just a day. And increase in pain and orgain failure that presented a life time of chronic problems.

Then there's mixing with benighn substances. I think its Motrin you can't mix with stuff like grapefruit juice. I may be wrong and its Tylenol type products but thats pretty spooky either way since both medicine cabinet standbys.



Boswellia Serrata and Curcumin (turmeric)

I have seen tonnes of proper research on these two and combined they are definitely better than taking nothing! I had a friend who had Ankylo Spondylosis and after the NSAIDS ate a hole in his stomach it was the only thing that worked for him. (Disclaimer: This is an educated opinion only. ;))

For anyone wondering - that's "non-steroidal anti-inflamatories" which were developed in order to eliminate the unwanted effects of using corticosteroids. Unfortunately though, NSAIDS (like all drugs) have their own arm-long list of adverse reactions.

[Avocadess]

I used to have CRIPPLING arthritis. Sometimes I could not walk even a few feet without excrutiating pain. Often I could not wear shoes, because of the pain of wearing the shoes (even sandals). I followed the advice of David Avocado Wolfe -- grounding or earthing and what I think helped me the MOST was MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane, which is sulfur). Great for everyone except those with allergies to sulfur (and sulfide drugs). It breaks down the calcification from taking in BAD CALCIUM -- which by the way 90-99% of the calcium supplements on the market are BAD calcium!! Such as ground oyster shells is an example of bad calcium. If you have any bad calcium supplements, throw them into your compost or garden. At least the soil can make some good use of it!

MSM comes in a white granular form, and the best kind to use is the kind made from trees but even the not-best-ever MSM also works. You start off slow -- maybe 1/2 tsp. 1-2 times a day with water and slowly work up to 2, 3 or even 9 tablespoons a day. I personally never did more than 3 a day because it's very bitter and just couldn't get myself to do more than 3 TBL/day. I took it every day for 4 months before I suddenly noticed that ALMOST ALL arthritic pain was GONE. Once you notice the pain is gone -- take note of how long you have been taking the MSM and continue to take the same dosage for the same number of months AGAIN. I'm here to tell you: it works...!!!

For those allergic to sulfur: aloe vera, fresh lemon juice and fulvic acid are among other things that will also help break down that calcification, which is what Avocado calls "nature's way of recycling us"...!!!

Oh, and if you get the non-plant-sourced MSM the best brand I know of is OptiMSM. I don't bother with the capsules. Just a few capsules a day is NOT ENOUGH anyway. I found that the easiest way for me to take it is to put about 1/2 cup of spring water in the blender with 3 TBL MSM and blend. Then I drink it down really fast with a water chaser. It stays in the body only 12 hours, so if you are in a hurry to get results, by all means take it once in the morning and once in the evening 12 hours later for results in half the time!!! ;)

[Dawn]

I would have answered this thread with lots of info about PTSD and supplements. However I am in the middle of a new WOW period of learning and I have information that is really surprising about this. The root of arthritus.... sick gut flora and fauna. Here is a thread I just created on this subject: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43548-The-root-of-most-disease...-NOT-what-you-think-&p=464505#post464505

[PathWalker]

My wife has arthritis.
I search for medical device that is external and has no side effects (no medicine or intake substance).
I found Cosmodic model PS705 mini http://www.scenar.ru/en/productions/scenar_ps705mini/
It works like miracle and best cost effective. It covered the cost of drugs in 18 months.
And it is used by the family for other ailments and as first aid source for almost everything.

We bought it here: http://exclusiv-store.com/store/index.php?cat=4 it was cheaper 3 years ago.

Better research for yourself the Cosmodic technology in google and utube. Is is more then just pain relief as the other devices are.

[WhiteFeather]

Looks like the apple cider vinegar may very well be a good look at for an arthritis treatment. I found this. It resonated with me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CA0LkLvqXM

[Ivanhoe]

I just got back from an exam.
I don't have rheumatoid arthritis (whew!) but I do have osteoarthritis in my neck and hips. Not much to do about it but stay mobile.
My biggest problem is pain.
The doc told me it was probably fibromyalgia and can be managed with drugs like Cymbalta, Savella, or Effexor, but I really don't want to take any of these because of their side effects.
Anyone here know of natural remedies for this problem?
Thanks in advance for the info.

[Unicorn]

Avoid overweight, and avoid aspartame at all costs. Helpful supplements: Vitamins C + D, glucosamine, collagen.

[happyexpat]

I had severe arthritis from an accident when I was a teenager. When I was much younger (and didn't know any better) some winters I would get steroid injections to increase the synovial fluid in my joints just to be able to walk.

I started doing yoga in my 20s and that really helped a lot, but I accidentally discovered extra virgin coconut oil when it was a dieting fad about 8 years ago. I have zero arthritis pain. I also don't catch any colds when I am doing it consistently. Now I am used to the coconut oil, so I can get eat it off a spoon, but I did mix it in oatmeal for a while when I was getting used to it.

I can tell you over the long term, it has definitely worked.