Once you met the Lord Creator, you will never love any human or anything else again..

[seigiarchon]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..

You will remember your love for Him..

Your will remember him as the Most Glorious, Most Holy, Most Magnificent Being in the Universe as He is the Universe itself..

You will find you will never love any other human being or anything else again..

You will lose all your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country...

h-0G_FI61a8

[seigiarchon]

what is Lucifer's most evil and most successful tactic?

he convinces us that our spouses, our children, our parents, our friends and families, our cars, houses and wealth, our career and status, our happiness are more important than the Lord Creator himself..

that is how the devil turns us against the Lord Creator..

the truth is..

nothing is more important than the Lord Creator..

not even our own lives or our own happiness are more important than the Lord Creator..

[Endity]

You feel once you meet the creator you will no longer love anyone but "Them". Seems kind of depressing to me, but what do I know.

[aranuk]

Is the Lord Creator a HIM? Really?

Stan

[seigiarchon]

My love for the Lord Creator will overshadow any compassion I have for other beings..

This is not to say once I meet the Lord Creator, I will hate anyone else..

It is just that when one meets the Lord Creator, his or her love for the Lord Creator will dwarf any other love or should I say attachments he or she has to any other beings or things..

[aranuk]

So why will we never love our wife, husband, mother, father, children again? That video was a waste of my time BTW. What is your point? You have never said anything to back it up.

Stan

[jcocks]

You obviously have never met god. If you did, you surely wouldn't understand it. What sort of loving being would ask you to love it and it alone? We express our love for god through our love for those around us.
To believe anything else is delusional, for we are all one with the godhead.

[Endity]

I have read quite a bit of seigiarchon posts. This is typical 4 chan style trolling. He is rather clever in it but its blantenly obvious. Or there is another alternative which would direct a negative comment towards him which I will refrain------------> :loco:

[seigiarchon]

You obviously have never met god. If you did, you surely wouldn't understand it. What sort of loving being would ask you to love it and it alone? We express our love for god through our love for those around us.
To believe anything else is delusional, for we are all one with the godhead.


Once you meet God, you will find your love for HIM will overshadow any attachments or love you have to your spouses, children, parents, family, cars, houses, wealth, career, status, etc etc..

He doesn't need to ask you to love him.. You WILL love him out of your own free will..

Because The Lord Creator is infinitely more beautiful, more holy, more magnificent than any other thingy which we have experienced in our pitiful 3d lives..

[Cilka]

Seigiarchon, you are a funny dude. I don't know why but I like you. Usually people like you used to irritate me.

I love you!!! :pray: I will send prayers for you to Jesus Christ.

[Endity]

What is your actual purpose here seig? I mean you seem to imply our lives are worthless. May I ask why does your creator leave you here to tell this tale of how much you love him. What is the actual point of it? It cannot be because you LOVE us from what I can tell. This my last post for here. I wish you good mental health and love.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Regardless of intent, the underlying message of the OP sounds eerily similar to a hive mind environment.

I have no idea what awaits after life here, but I do not like the thought of being absorbed by a giant pool of eternal bliss.

As ironic as that sounds, I rather enjoy the journey.

[D-Day]

Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

[marique3652]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..

You will remember your love for Him..

Your will remember him as the Most Glorious, Most Holy, Most Magnificent Being in the Universe as He is the Universe itself..

You will find you will never love any other human being or anything else again..

You will lose all your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country...

h-0G_FI61a8

I have to disagree with you, although I think I have an idea what you are expressing. I have had two near death experiences in which I met "my maker" and it was glorious beyond mere words to express, but when I returned to my body I still was able to feel love for my family and beloved ones, as a matter of fact my love for them was far more rich and strong than before. I will admit that I was depressed for a bit because I wanted to go back to where I had "been" while clinically dead because it was just so intense and beautiful and the feelings of love were so strong there, but I still was able to love my family and beloved ones after I was revived and jolted back into my body. So I believe your premise does not resonate with me.

My creator created all we humans and every other species of living things out of love, but my maker is not a selfish God who wants nothing but adulation. Maybe your image of God is but mine is not. My god created us to learn to love just as he/she does all his/her creations. My God is genderless by the way, so I do not call God a he, by the way.....You can call your any gender you want.

Thank you for sharing your viewpoint and I respect your right to feel that way. Blessings to you and much love.

[seigiarchon]

Regardless of intent, the underlying message of the OP sounds eerily similar to a hive mind environment.

I have no idea what awaits after life here, but I do not like the thought of being absorbed by a giant pool of eternal bliss.

As ironic as that sounds, I rather enjoy the journey.

i used to be afraid of that too..

because i was just like anyone else.. i was afraid of losing my individual identity..

then i realize the whole purpose of our journey.. of our miserable lives on earth.. is to lose our individual identity! and merge back into this giant giant pool of eternal blissful consciousness!

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. I will admit that I was depressed for a bit because I wanted to go back to where I had "been" while clinically dead because it was just so intense and beautiful and the feelings of love were so strong there, but I still was able to love my family and beloved ones after I was revived and jolted back into my body.

what else do i have to say? you know what i am talking about..

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Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

what's in a name?

[marique3652]

You know Seig, I am beginning to get your train of thought a little here, and am understanding your premise a little and maybe I was a bit hasty. I do believe that as souls grow and become purer that the souls are working their way back to the source of all that is or as some call it God. I do agree that as souls progress back to the source that attachments are lessened and that merging back to the source is the destiny of all souls ultimately, and I do agree that people fear losing their individuality and all that they identify as themselves very much. But since I believe we are all "god particles" that are part of the same source and that our purpose is to experience all the emotions and everything possible expotentially for the source, that your premise is not as "wrong" as I originally thought, lol. I see a logic there somehow. Did not like the video but this is an interesting discussion though. Making me put my thinking cap on....hmmmmmm

[enfoldedblue]

Hi just thought I'd share my perspective. I looked within and the deeper I peared the closer I came to the 'source' energy. WHen I connect I recognize that there is no separation between me and (what you call) 'Him' and (what I am calling) Source. We are the most incredible beautiful deep magical being and we are one. The more I connect with this energy, the closer I feel to all around me for I see less and less separation and recognize ALL as incredible unique aspects of source. Every person/thing that surrounds me is an opporrtunity to connect, understand and love more deeply a small part of the incredible mystery that is Source/God/LOve/ SPirit/ Me/Us....

[Feritciva]

So "The Art of Trolling" has taken new courses!

Trolling is an interesting activity, you have to have a little knowledge about the subjects you deal with and you have to know others' weaknesses on these new subjects. Possibly a bored average iq guy between age 20-25 can be a good troll-candidate. But when you're an experienced forum reader, in every sentence you can see/feel this bored troll teen-mind in the posts.

This is what I see here. Sieg, you've got a loong way to become a good troll. These trials are too clumsy.

Good luck on your path.

[StarDust]

Above all is The Law of ONE. Everything else is merely a distortion of The Law of ONE.

[Rogerc]

My love for the Lord Creator will overshadow any compassion I have for other beings..

This is not to say once I meet the Lord Creator, I will hate anyone else..

It is just that when one meets the Lord Creator, his or her love for the Lord Creator will dwarf any other love or should I say attachments he or she has to any other beings or things..

Wow Seigiarchon,

I'm really happy for you.

But since you have met your Creator and are obviously in a state of eternal bliss why are you hanging around proselytising to me - to whom you have no attachment?

Pass on you blessed soul.

I will try to find my own way.

[modwiz]

what's in a name?

Quite a bit of information and vibrational influence. Neuro-linguistc clues.

That is to say, anything but meaningless.

[Flash]

a troll and religious at that

told you in the other thread on the disgusting women

a troll

[cellardoor]

The Itemised Charges against Jehovah
Item: That you did exterminate 70,000 of your Chosen People because King David, your chosen king of the Jews, conducted a census! (1 Chronicles 21)

Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. 2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, "Go and count the Israelites from Beersheba to Dan. Then report back to me so that I may know how many there are." 3 But Joab replied, "May the LORD multiply his troops a hundred times over. My lord the king, are they not all my lord's subjects? Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel?" 4 The king's word, however, overruled Joab; so Joab left and went throughout Israel and then came back to Jerusalem. 5 Joab reported the number of the fighting men to David: In all Israel there were one million one hundred thousand men who could handle a sword, including four hundred and seventy thousand in Judah. 6 But Joab did not include Levi and Benjamin in the numbering, because the king's command was repulsive to him. 7 This command was also evil in the sight of God; so he punished Israel. 8 Then David said to God, "I have sinned greatly by doing this. Now, I beg you, take away the guilt of your servant. I have done a very foolish thing." 9 The LORD said to Gad, David's seer, 10 "Go and tell David, 'This is what the LORD says: I am giving you three options. Choose one of them for me to carry out against you.'" 11 So Gad went to David and said to him, "This is what the LORD says: 'Take your choice: 12 three years of famine, three months of being swept away before your enemies, with their swords overtaking you, or three days of the sword of the LORD—days of plague in the land, with the angel of the LORD ravaging every part of Israel.' Now then, decide how I should answer the one who sent me." 13 David said to Gad, "I am in deep distress. Let me fall into the hands of the LORD, for his mercy is very great; but do not let me fall into human hands." 14 So the LORD sent a plague on Israel, and seventy thousand men of Israel fell dead. 15 And God sent an angel to destroy Jerusalem. But as the angel was doing so, the LORD saw it and relented concerning the disaster and said to the angel who was destroying the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand." The angel of the LORD was then standing at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.

It is stated that "Satan" inspired King David to carry out a census, even though any rational king would surely want to know how many people were under his care so that he could plan their welfare accordingly, and how many men he had to fight in his army. Regardless, the project was so offensive to "God" that he offered David three genocidal choices for the Jews:

1) Three years of famine.

2) Three months of being defenceless against Israel's enemies.

3) Three days "to have the sword of the Lord and pestilence in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying in all the coasts of Israel."

David declared: "I am on every side in a great strait, but it is better for me to fall into the hands of the Lord, for his mercies are many, than into the hands of men.

Jehovah was "merciful" to the extent of exterminating 70,000 of his own Chosen People - and all for the Satanic crime of holding a national census. WTF!

Jehovah sent an angel to Jerusalem - his holy city - to slaughter his Chosen People but stayed his hand after the first massacres had taken place.

In Nazi Germany, Einsatzgruppen were special task forces - death squads - established by the SS leaders Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich. They were the frontline of the Holocaust until the advent of the death camps that turned the delivery of death into an industrialized, production-line process. Einsatzgruppen are estimated to have executed by shooting some 1.5 million people in Eastern Europe and Russia from 1941 through 1943.

Instead of Einsatzgruppen, Jehovah used a specialist hitman - the Angel of the Lord - and biological warfare (pestilence) to exterminate the Jews. The Nazis killed Jews for being Jews. The Jewish God killed the Jews for being counted by their king! He did not kill the king, thus establishing his principle of always killing the innocent wherever possible. The king was David, Israel's most famous king from whom Jesus Christ was allegedly descended (if we ignore the prior claims of the Holy Spirit as Jesus' father!).

Item: You did arrange the extermination of the population of 60 cities. (Deuteronomy 3)

"So the Lord our God delivered into our hands also Og the king of Basan, and all his people, and we utterly destroyed them. Wasting all his cities at one time. There was not a town that escaped us: sixty cities, all the country of Argob in the kingdom of Og in Basan…And we utterly destroyed them, as we had done to Sehon, the king of Hesebon, destroying every city, men, women and children. But the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for our prey."

Here we see a policy of genocide, supervised by Jehovah, in which crimes against humanity are performed as a matter of routine against the inhabitants of sixty cities, just as the Nazis did on the Russian Front thousands of years later.

Jews were appalled when Nazis exterminated men, women and children. However, the Jews themselves were advocates of exactly the same policy, with their God facilitating their war crimes. In the modern day, all of the Jewish leaders of old would have been indicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity (and many argue that present-day Jewish leaders should be similarly indicted).

The Jewish victims of the Holocaust at no time repudiated the actions of their ancestors or their God. They believed it was entirely legitimate and divinely sanctioned to slaughter unarmed combatants, including women and children. The Einsatzgruppen simply copied the Jewish model of extermination, approved by Jehovah himself. If it wasn't wrong for the Jews, how could it be wrong for the Einsatzgruppen? If the Einsatzgruppen were criminals, so were the Jews.

Jehovah sanctioned looting and plunder on a grand scale. The Nazis once again copied this Jewish policy and looted and plundered their Jewish victims. Somehow, it's regarded as horrific when Nazis are the perpetrators, and "Godly" when Jews are the perpetrators.

We see the ancient Jewish mentality reappearing in modern Israel in their treatment of the Palestinians, which many observers declare reminiscent of the Nazis, although the truth is that the Nazis simply copied the Biblical example of the Jews.

Item - That you did expedite the massacre of the population of the city of Jericho. (Joshua 6)

"They took the city and killed all that were in it, man and woman, young and old. The oxen also, and the sheep, and the asses, they slew with the edge of the swords."

Once again, we see that the Jews spare neither young nor old in their exterminatory frenzy. They even butcher animals.

Jews often ask how the Nazis could have committed the terrible atrocities of the Holocaust. They never ask the same question of their own ancestors (and of themselves in modern Palestine). They don't condemn their ancestors. They don't reject the God of their ancestors.

If their God sanctions mass extermination, why should the Jews be surprised when the enemies of their God adopt exactly the same tactics? Why should the enemies of the Jewish God be more moral than the alleged one, true God of the Universe, a being of infinite moral perfection (supposedly)? Why have no Jews ever asked if the exterminatory policy of their God is consistent with any moral code at all?

Item - That you did engineer the almost total extermination of the Jewish tribe of Benjamin by the other Jewish tribes. (Judges 20)

"And so it came to pass that all that were slain of Benjamin in divers places, were five and twenty thousand fighting men, most valiant for war. And there remained of all the number of Benjamin only six hundred men that were able to escape."

Plainly, the Jews don't need any Nazis to exterminate them: they do it to themselves! Jehovah himself, who said he would deliver the Benjamites into the hands of the others, sanctioned this near-extermination of the tribe of Benjamin.

Item - That you did approve systematic murder, abduction and rape. (Judges 21)

"So they sent ten thousand of the most valiant men, and commanded them, saying: 'Go and put the inhabitants of Jabes Galaad to the sword, with their wives and their children. And this is what you shall observe. Every male, and all women that have known men, you shall kill, but the virgins you shall save…And they commanded the children of Benjamin, and said: 'Go, and lie in the vineyards, and when you shall see the daughters of Silo come out, as the custom is, to dance, come ye on a sudden out of the vineyards, and take you your wife from among them…"

The "crime" of the Jews of Jabes Galaad was that they hadn't joined the rest of the Jews in the war against the tribe of Benjamin (who were now apparently forgiven). This was sufficient to merit their mass murder.

In other words, just as the Nazis killed people who didn't join in wholeheartedly with Nazism, so did the Jews kill anyone who wasn't a good enough and murderous enough Jew.

Virgins were to be seized, raped and forced into marriage. Other virgins were to be abducted while they were dancing.

Item - That you did approve regicide and using deceit to massacre the followers of an enemy god. (2 Kings 9 - 10)

King Jehu of Israel killed his predecessor Ahab and his wife Jezebel, both of whom were worshippers of Baal. He arranged for the seventy sons of Ahab to be beheaded. Jehu then pretended to be a Baal worshipper and summoned all the followers of Baal for a great religious ceremony (just as the Nazis pretended to the Jews that they were being sent to resettlement camps). At a signal from Jehu, his soldiers massacred all of the Baal worshippers in their temple. To ensure that none got away, he had previously announced that he would kill any of his soldiers who let anyone escape.


Here we see the same tactics deployed by the Nazis. If you don't obey orders, you will be executed. And deception is entirely legitimate. Just as the Nazis lured Jews into fatal showers, so the Jews lured followers of Baal into a deadly trap. It would seem that the Nazis imitated all of the Jewish tricks. The Nazi handbook of extermination was obviously the Jewish Bible.

Item - That you did institute slavery. (Exodus 21)

"If thou buy a Hebrew slave, six years shall he serve thee: in the seventh he shall go our free for nothing."

"If any man sell his daughter to be a slave, she shall not go out as bondwomen are wont to go out."

Here, fathers are being encouraged to sell their daughters as sex slaves. Bear that in mind the next time the Christian moral majority condemn strippers and lapdancers.

Item - That you did inspire Isaiah to advocate the complete extermination of Babylon. (Isaiah 13:16)

What follows is one of the most horrific visions of slaughter, butchery and pure unadulterated evil ever committed to paper:

"Howl ye, for the day of the Lord is near: it shall come as a destruction from the Lord… Behold, the day of the Lord shall come, a cruel day, and full of indignation, and of wrath, and fury, to lay the land desolate, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it…And I will visit the evils of the world, and against the wicked for their iniquity: and I will make the pride of the infidels to cease, and will bring down the arrogancy of the mighty…Every one that shall be found shall be slain, and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword…Their infants shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes: their houses shall be pillaged and their wives shall be ravished…Behold I will stir up the Medes against them…With their arrows they shall kill the children, and shall have no pity upon the sucklings of the womb, and their eye shall not spare their children…And that Babylon, glorious amongst kingdoms, the famous pride of the Chaldeans, shall be even as the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. It shall no more be inhabited forever, and it shall not be founded unto generation and generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch his tents there, nor shall shepherds rest there."

This "prophecy" belongs to the category of "revenge porn". The Jews, destroyed by the Babylonians and taken into slavery, dreamt of the day they would be avenged. Note the degree of psychopathy in their longing for retribution. They want every Babylonian to be killed. They want to see children dashed to pieces in front of their parents. They want unborn babies to be killed too. They want Babylon to cease to exist. They want it wiped off the face of the earth once and for all. Just as the Nazis wanted to remove all Jews from the world, so the Jews wanted to remove all infidels, and especially the Babylonians.

What "God" did these monstrous Jews worship? A good, loving, compassionate, forgiving, merciful, benevolent, kind and morally perfect God…or the Devil, the Torture God himself?

The Holocaust was exactly what the Jews wished for the Babylonians - for every man, woman and child of them, even the unborn. The Nazis did to them precisely what they advocated should be done to their enemies. A hard-hearted person might in these circumstances declare that the Jews got "justice". As they wished on others, so was it done to them, to the smallest detail. It was almost as if Isaiah's prophecy was about the destruction of the Jews rather than the Babylonians, and at the hands of their own God, Jehovah.

Psalms 137: 8-9 "O daughter of Babylon, miserable: blessed shall he be who shall repay thee thy payment which thou hast paid us. Blessed is he that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock."

Who can be remotely surprised by the Jewish atrocities against the Palestinians, including children, given their long-standing ferocity towards children of infidels?

Hosea 13:16: Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

If exterminating the Babylonians wasn't sufficient for the bloodthirsty Jews, they thought they'd look a bit closer to home - in neighbouring Samaria. Here we see the familiar Jewish recipe for getting on with the neighbours: destroy the land, kill all the men, smash all the babies against rocks and make sure to kill all pregnant women.

So, best not to live in the Gaza Strip or the West Bank!

The astounding thing about the Jewish Bible is that no attempt whatever is made to conceal the legion crimes of Jehovah. In fact, they are described with complete approval and not a hint that there's anything wrong with what he did.

Of course, Christians never draw attention to these passages of rape, murder, human sacrifice and genocide. It doesn't quite fit in with the Christian message of love, peace and turning the other cheek. The Jewish God never once turned the other cheek, and no one in history was more hateful, violent and warlike. And, never forget, Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament because there is only one God in monotheistic religions. It was Jesus Christ, the man who allegedly died for your sins, who carried out the worst atrocities of all time. Jesus doesn't love you. He hates you. He imposed the penalty of Original Sin on humanity and sentenced us all to hell in perpetuity. What kind of loving God does that? Jesus advocated rape, murder, and genocide. Everything Jehovah said and did is exactly what Jesus said and did because there is only one God in Judaeo-Christianity.

Why do the Christians refuse to acknowledge that their God is the Devil himself? Jesus Christ is Satan. He is not the Christ - he is the Antichrist. If Jesus Christ - Yehoshua ben Yosef to call him by his true name - wanted to disown Jehovah, no one was stopping him. He chose not to. He endorsed all of Jehovah's actions because, according to the Christian doctrine of three persons in ONE GOD, he himself is God and any actions performed by Jehovah are also performed of necessity by him: there aren't three Gods doing completely different things and disagreeing with each other.

While most Christians haven't read the Bible, the Jews most certainly have…in minute detail. Many Christians can plead ignorance of the monster they worship. That option isn't available to the Jews. They know exactly what their Torture God does.

Christian priests and preachers selectively edit their readings from the Bible because if they read out these atrocities in Church, people would leave en masse, knowing that they worshipped a God of hate, not of love. The Jews are much less squeamish than the Christians, and they of course completely rejected Jesus Christ and his teachings.

Item - That you did sanction human sacrifice. (Genesis)

[God to Abraham]: "Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you."

Abraham takes his own son up the mountain and builds an altar for burning his body (a so-called holocaust!). He even deceives his son about whom the pyre is for and gets him to help build the instrument of his own cremation. Then he ties Isaac to the altar and places a blade against his throat, ready to slit it open.

Although the human sacrifice is cancelled at the last second, the psychological damage done to Isaac must have been beyond comprehension. His own father had been ready to kill him at the instigation of the morally perfect God of the Universe (allegedly). If that's not the biggest head**** in history, what is?

Not that "God" usually spared innocent children. As we have seen, he loved to see them being dashed to death, and for unborn babies to be killed at the point of the sword.

It's rather surprising that Evangelical Christians are so opposed to abortion when their own Holy Scriptures endorse abortion 100%. The anti-abortionists are evil heretics, defying the Word of the Lord and he shall surely smite them down and despatch them to hell.

In the present day, Abraham, the first Jew, the first Christian, the first Muslim - God's great prophet with whom he made the most solemn covenant - would be facing the death penalty or life in prison for abduction and attempted murder. Social services would take his son from him for extreme child abuse.

Abraham is guilty of cruel and unusual punishment of his own innocent son. He was prepared to kill him because of a voice in his head. What kind of father is that? Abraham was utterly unfit to have any children. Similarly, Abrahamists are unfit to have children.


This tale is the acid test for Abrahamism. Would a morally perfect God order a father to kill his innocent, trusting son? If the answer is no - as it must be for any comprehensible definition of moral perfection - then "God" is not God. Who is he in that case? There can be only one conclusion - he is the Devil calling himself God.

Item - That you did sanction extortion. (Exodus 13)

"Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me…Thou shalt set apart all that openeth the womb for the Lord, and all that that is first brought forth of thy cattle: whatsoever thou shalt have of the male sex, thou shalt consecrate to the Lord. The firstborn of an ass thou shalt change for a sheep: and if thou do not redeem it, thou shalt kill it. And every firstborn of men thou shalt redeem with a price."

We can assume that priests wrote these words. They are to be given the firstborn male of cattle (to eat, presumably) and they must be PAID to prevent them from sacrificing firstborn sons. They are effectively extorting money from the Jews - threatening to kill children if they don't get their money - and making sure they are well fed into the bargain.

Here we see the typical machinations of the priest caste: doing everything to enrich themselves by claiming to act in the name of God and with his full approval. Evangelical Christian preachers in America are notorious for fleecing gullible members of their flock.

Leviticus 27:28-29 suggests a second even more sinister tradition: that firstborn sons became the slave labour of the priests or were indeed sacrificed to God: "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death."

This is an explicit policy of human sacrifice carried out by Jewish priests. One can guess that the evil custom of circumcision was introduced to replace human sacrifice: this ritual symbolised the consecration of baby boys to the Torture God. Part of them had to be cut off - bloodshed - to satisfy the Devil God's thirst for blood like some cosmic vampire.

Item - That you did apply capital punishment to innocent family members of a thief.

After the sack of Jericho, the greedy priests of Israel kept all the looted treasures for themselves. A man called Achan decided to help himself to some of the plunder.

Jehovah (or is it his priests speaking on his behalf?) declares (Joshua 7:15 and 25): "And whosoever he be that shall be found guilty of this fact, he shall be burnt with fire with all his substance, because he hath transgressed the covenant of the Lord, and hath done wickedness in Israel…And all Israel stoned him [Achan]: and all things that were his [his sons, daughters, oxen, asses, sheep] were consumed with fire."

In this sick Jewish society, simply to be associated with a wrongdoer "merits" the death penalty by being burned to death. Here we see the precursor of the medieval witch burnings, and also of Nazi reprisal tactics against people who had no involvement with attacks on Nazis but just happened to be in the area when an attack took place, or were related to the perpetrators.

Item - That you did order extreme religious intolerance and the burning of pagan priests.

1 Kings 13:1-2: "At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, 'O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.'"

Note here the similarity to prophecies concerning Jesus Christ. Like Jesus, Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David and he will be a Jewish Messiah (a king) who will destroy the infidels.

2 Kings 23:20-25: "He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: 'You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant.' There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah's reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since."

Plainly, the Jews expected the Messiah to be a king (the anointed "son of God") exactly like King Josiah - a ruler of extermination, executing the will of Jehovah to the last letter.

Item - That you did plot war and the extermination of Judah's enemies.

In the Book of Ezekial, written while Judah was at war with Babylon, resulting in the crushing of Judah and the enslavement of its population, there is passage after passage of a grotesque revenge fantasy against all non-Jews who have ever fought with Judah.

The following is just one example:

Ezekiel 21:31-32: "As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken."

A remarkable feature of the Jewish Bible is that whenever the Jews are conquered, it is made the fault of the Jews themselves for failing to worship Jehovah properly. Whenever the Jews are victorious, it is nothing to do with the Jews and completely Jehovah's doing. This is the perfect system of mind control. You drill into people that any defeat is their fault and any victory is God's, not theirs. No matter what happens, "God" is never blamed. Heads he wins, tails you lose.

Where was Jehovah during the Holocaust? Well, obviously, the reason he didn't raise a finger was that the Jews were particularly bad in those years and deserved everything they got, right? Why didn't Goering say that the Nazis were simply carrying out Jehovah's rightful punishment of the Jews, and if Jehovah had any problem with it, he would have stopped it? Thus to find the Nazis guilty was to find Jehovah guilty! If Jehovah had no problem with what the Nazis did, why should anyone else, including the Jews? They clearly got what their own God thought they deserved, just as he thought they deserved to be enslaved by the Egyptians, Assyrians and Babylonians and occupied by the Greek-Macedonians and the Romans…then expelled from Judah completely.

Check this out (Ezekial 21: 1-7):

Babylon as God's Sword of Judgment

The word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, set your face against Jerusalem and preach against the sanctuary. Prophesy against the land of Israel and say to her: 'This is what the LORD says: I am against you. I will draw my sword from its sheath and cut off from you both the righteous and the wicked. Because I am going to cut off the righteous and the wicked, my sword will be unsheathed against everyone from south to north. Then all people will know that I the LORD have drawn my sword from its sheath; it will not return again.' "Therefore groan, son of man! Groan before them with broken heart and bitter grief. And when they ask you, 'Why are you groaning?' you shall say, 'Because of the news that is coming. Every heart will melt with fear and every hand go limp; every spirit will become faint and every leg will be wet with urine.' It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD."

So, in order to explain why Jehovah - the infinite power of the cosmos - allowed the Babylonians to conquer the Jews, the Jewish priests and prophets came up with the brilliant idea that Jehovah was in fact using Babylon to punish the Jews (and they could never have won without him). By exactly the same token, Jehovah used the Nazis to punish the Jews. The Holocaust was his doing. Jehovah was goose-stepping, wearing a swastika armband, wearing a tiny moustache and bellowing, "Heil Hitler!" The Nazis could never have harmed the Jews without his explicit help. Why wasn't he in the dock along with the Nazi High Command? Similarly, the only way to explain all the crushing defeats and persecutions the Jews suffered despite being the Chosen People of the infinitely powerful cosmic God is to conclude that God helped the Jews' enemies because the Jews were continually disappointing him and refusing to worship him properly.

Jehovah can never lose in this set-up. He takes credit for victory, and the people are blamed for defeat (in fact, it is actually Jehovah who defeats them). Exactly the same system is applied by the Zionists of Wall Street in the modern day. Victories (massive profits) are thanks to them, and they receive the vast rewards. Defeats (disastrous losses) are because of the failure of regulation, government, the people, the system (and have nothing at all to do with the Zionist bankers). Therefore the people should pick up the bill: the ordinary taxpayers should bail out the super rich. You really can't get better than this system of exploitation. The bankers win in the boom times, and the people lose in the bust times. And the people go along with it!! Has there ever been such an Age of Suckers than the one we are now in?!

Jehovah used the Angel of the Lord to exterminate countless enemies of the Jews in the twinkle of the eye. He often did the killing work himself (Exodus 12:12): "And I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and will kill every firstborn in the land of Egypt both man and beast: and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgement: I AM the Lord."

Why didn't Jehovah use the Angel of the Lord to destroy the Nazis, or indeed do it himself? According to his own bragging, it would have been child's play for him. So, if he didn't it was because he didn't want to, and if he didn't want to it was because he wanted to punish the Jews; he loathed them for being such bad Jews. All those who died were, by Biblical logic, evil Jews who deserved what was coming to them…by the judgment of their own God! It was his infallible and just will that they suffer and die. So what did any of it have to do with the Nuremberg prosecutors? The Holocaust was Jehovah's responsibility, his divine judgment on the Jews. It had nothing to do with anyone else.

By subjecting the Nazis to the judgment of humans rather than God, the Nuremberg Trials were in effect declaring that God did not exist. In a world ruled over by the Biblical God - where nothing happens that isn't his will - the Holocaust was just another manifestation of his will. To defy his judgment and condemn the Holocaust is the same as declaring that there is no God and humanity must take responsibility for judging war crimes. Therefore, every prosecutor at Nuremberg ought to have been an atheist. The first thing they should have declared at Nuremberg was the non-existence of God, hence human beings would from now on judge right and wrong, good and evil.

No one who believes in a God who intervened in the affairs of humanity (and of the Jews in particular) as much as Jehovah once did could also believe that his subsequent non-intervention was irrelevant or not worthy of comment.

Only five conclusions are possible. 1) The Jewish God never existed and the Old Testament is fabricated nonsense. 2) The Jewish God has died, thus can no longer intervene. 3) The Jewish God has abandoned the Jews in particular and humanity in general and now ignores the human race. 4) The non-intervention of the Jewish God is a deliberate tactic - for some unknown purpose of his. 5) As the Devil, and the master of psychological torture and torment, Jehovah has refined his tactics and concluded that it is better not to directly influence human affairs: his Satanic influence spreads more effectively with a lighter, almost unnoticed touch.

If Jehovah wanted to save the Jews of the Holocaust, he would have done so if he were capable. Either he was not capable or he did not want to save them (or he doesn't exist, or he died, or he's Satan!). Whatever way you look at it, no one could possibly go on believing in the Jewish God. Either he is ineffectual, not there, dead, uninterested or a monster who personally presided over the Holocaust. Why does a single Jew remain loyal to this Devil? It's the greatest mystery of all time. It reveals that there has never been a more perverse and mentally ill race than the Jews (and their bastard offspring - the Christians and Muslims).

Item - That you did subject infidels and apostates to a Holocaust.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19: "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

Here we see the classic tactics of Nazi Einsatzgruppen.

In The Rebel, Albert Camus describes the reprisals the Nazis took against the village of Lidice in Czechoslovakia in response to the assassination of Hitler's probable heir - Reinhard Heydrich:

"The destruction of Lidice demonstrates clearly that the systematic and scientific aspect of the Nazi movement really hides an irrational drive which can only be interpreted as a drive of despair and arrogance. Until then, there were only two possible attitudes towards a village which was considered rebellious. Either calculated repression and cold-blooded execution of hostages, or a savage and necessarily brief sack by enraged soldiers. Lidice was destroyed by both methods simultaneously. It illustrates the ravages of that irrational form of reason which is the only value that can be found in the whole story. Not only were all the houses burned to ground, the hundred and seventy-four men of the village shot, the two hundred and three women deported, and the three hundred children transferred elsewhere to be educated in the religion of the Fuehrer, but special teams spent months at work levelling the terrain with dynamite, destroying the very stones, filling in the village pond and, finally, diverting the course of the river. After that, Lidice was really nothing more than a mere possibility according to the logic of the movement. To make doubly sure, the cemetery was emptied of its dead who might have been a perpetual reminder that once something existed in this place."

Camus obviously never read the Jewish Bible. There is a Lidice on practically every other page, and on a much grander scale. The Jewish logic of divine destruction was that it must be infinitely more severe than human destruction, so it took on an entirely different character and became pathological. The Nazis weren't the only ones who adopted the Jewish practice of divine obliteration: the Romans did the same thing to proud Carthage…and to the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, and indeed the whole of Jerusalem.

Prior to his paragraph on Lidice, Camus wrote: "The crimes of the Hitler regime, among them the massacre of the Jews, are without precedent in history because history gives no other example of a doctrine of such total destruction being able to seize the levers of command of a civilised nation. But above all, for the first time in history, the rulers of a country have used their immense power to establish a mystique beyond the bounds of any ethical considerations. This first attempt to found a Church on nothingness was paid for by complete annihilation."

Again, Camus reveals his ignorance of the Jewish Bible. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? - total annihilation. To what do the concepts of the Apocalypse and Armageddon refer? - the destruction of the entire world. The Jews were the annihilators par excellence (and the Christian Rapturists have eagerly embraced their message, as have the Muslim death-cult hordes). If Nazism was unique, it was because it was the equivalent of an Apocalyptic religion but had a man - Hitler - rather than a God at its head. Nazism proved that no gods are needed to make human beings worship Armageddon. All that is needed is a submissive people in thrall to an extreme dominant who acts as God on Earth (more Godly than the real thing because you can actually see and hear him, and feel his wrath directly and immediately if you disobey him).

Who were the Gestapo? - the Nazi Inquisition. Who were the SS? - the Nazi Teutonic Knights and Knights Templar. What was the swastika? - the Nazi Cross/Star of David. What were the Nuremberg rallies? - the Nazi equivalent of worship in the most sacred Cathedrals and Synagogues. Nazism wasn't a political movement - it was a religion with a political party appended to it. Its God was Hitler. In much the same way, Stalin was the God of the Soviet Union, and the Communist Party were the priesthood of Bolshevism. The titanic struggle between Germany and Russia - which in essence WAS the Second World War (everything else - including D-Day - was little more than a sideshow) was nothing other than a holy war between two rival Gods - Hitler and Stalin.

When Germany was on the verge of total defeat, Hitler dreamt of the Apocalypse. He said, "If the German people are incapable of victory, they are unworthy to live." Had he possessed a weapon of mass destruction, he would certainly have used it against his own people. The Japanese too would have used atomic bombs on themselves to stop the Americans landing on their sacred soil. The Japanese deification of their Emperor had created an Apocalyptic God, and the Japanese suicidal custom of hara-kiri was entirely focused on the need to commit suicide to maintain honour. The kamikaze squadrons - the divine wind of imperial Japan - were flown by Pilots of Armageddon. Who can doubt that the Jews, in their apocalyptic struggles with the Babylonians and Romans, would have used WMD, if they possessed them, to prevent infidels entering the holy of holies of their Temple? Who can doubt that Jews now, if they were about to be expelled from Israel by a victorious alliance of Arab nations, would detonate nuclear weapons?

All Apocalyptic religions will use weapons of Apocalypse when the end comes. Fortunately for the human race, no Apocalyptic group has thus far had a WMD available to them on the point of absolute defeat. But the time will surely come.

In general, all master-slave systems revolve around an implied apocalypse. The dominant is regarded as God and he will bring apocalypse to his enemies, or they will bring it to him. Only total victory or total defeat are possible outcomes when a God (Fuehrer) is placed at the head of a nation. Nazi Germany was able to witness the death of its God. The Soviet Union delivered the Apocalypse to Berlin and right to the front door of the Fuehrer's bunker. The supreme tragedy of history is that when Jehovah was decisively destroyed by the Babylonians and later even more apocalyptically by the Romans, there was no body to show the people. Jehovah is now the grandest of the undead - the cosmic vampire waiting to plunge his fangs into the collective human neck and drain it of all its blood. He's a corpse that cannot perish. Because there's no body, the Jews refuse to accept that he's dead.

Even democracy has an apocalyptic component: the master-slave paradigm that underlies capitalism, the economic wing of democracy. In boom times, the super rich are viewed as infallible gods, deserving of divine rewards. When the inevitable bust comes, it is the apocalypse. But, like the Jews, Westerners refuse to accept that the gods are dead and the super rich continue as before with the taxpayers paying the price of economic Armageddon. Just as mysterious as the refusal of the Jews to repudiate their god is the refusal of Americans and Europeans to topple the super-rich gods who have destroyed the Western economy for years to come.

The Illuminati seek a rational meritocracy where the forces of apocalypse are shunted into a sexual siding (in the domain of BDSM!) and the people of the world can set about transforming themselves into gods.

Our entire world has been shaped by the Hegelian master-slave dialectic and now it is time for that dialectic to reach its conclusion - with everyone in the world becoming their own masters. There will be no more slaves of masters, and no masters of slaves. Instead, everyone will be the master of their own life. This corresponds to the state of maximum freedom of the human race.

All master-slave aspects of society will be dismantled. All master-slave religions, political systems, economic systems and social systems will be outlawed. The only hiding place for the master-slave relationship will be sex and entertainment. Here, the deep-seated master-slave component of human psychology can be scratched without doing damage to society.

We can't emphasise enough that a new world, a new way of doing things, can only ever come about if all privileged elites are cast down from their pedestals, if all priest castes that try to terrorise people with tales of hell and damnation are abolished.

NO MORE MASTER-SLAVE PRIESTS. NO MORE MASTER-SLAVE DYNASTIES OF PRIVILEGE. NO MORE MASTER-SLAVE MONARCHIES. NO MORE MASTER-SLAVE ECONOMICS OF THE SUPER RICH AND SUPER POOR. NO MORE MASTER-SLAVE EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES.

The master-slave pyramid must be replaced by the meritocratic round table where everyone has an equal opportunity to shine and will go as far as their talents and hard work take them. That is the only just, free, healthy system. That is the culmination of the human dialectic of freedom. ("The history of the world is none other than the progress of the consciousness of freedom." - Hegel)

The Jewish Bible has no moral message at all. The only message it contains is: OBEY THE TORTURE GOD OR ELSE!

The Jewish Bible has no concept whatsoever of good and evil. It is master-slave religion that says the master (Jehovah) is always right and must never be opposed.

The Jewish Bible readily and eagerly describes countless atrocities, abductions, exterminations, reprisals, rapes, child killings…all done in the name of "the Lord thy God" and usually explicitly ordered by him, or involving his actual participation.

The Jewish Bible is about intimidation, terror, human sacrifice, death squads and genocide. It is the story of unconditional hatred of the human race. It is the tale of a psychotic, deranged, cosmic torturer. It is the most evil book ever written, even more evil than the Koran.

Only people of absolute evil and mental illness would do anything other than burn this book for the monstrous work of the Devil it assuredly is.

For thousands of years, the biggest lie in history has been told that this filthy, depraved book represents the Will of the True God. If you think for one second that God would do any of the things done by Jehovah, you are insane. To take the Jewish Bible seriously as some sort of moral message is to show that your own moral compass is broken beyond repair. If you think that a good father kills his children because "God" orders it, or that killing infants by dashing their brains out, or raping and burning virgins, or putting a sword through unborn babies, or killing everyone in a town including the old, sick and helpless, or exterminating the human race, all represent "goodness" then God spare us from the likes of you. You are irredeemably evil, as evil as the Devil you worship.

Nothing is more remarkable than that the Jews made no attempt to conceal that they worshipped the Devil. Their incredible innovation was simply to rebrand him as "God". Simply by calling him that, the Jews thought that he must indeed be God. They then defined "good" as whatever God sanctioned or did (no matter how evil), and "evil" as any form of resistance to "God". Being submissive slaves in search of the most powerful and dominant master they could find in the cosmos, the Jews constructed a religion that entirely satisfied them psychologically. The fact that the God they worshipped never once spoke of morality and ethics didn't surprise them at all. Jehovah never once said what moral and ethical constraints should be applied to him in his dealings with humanity. He gave endless rules and commandments to the Jews for them to slavishly obey, but no rules or commandments were applied to him. So, it's wrong for YOU to kill (without his permission), but not wrong for him to exterminate the whole human race, his own creation. You are free to rape, abduct, murder, steal, plunder, slaughter and butcher if he approves, but you mustn't do these things if he doesn't approve. In other words, the actions themselves have no connection with morality. For example, murder and rape are not absolute evils. Rather, they can be absolutely good if Jehovah sanctions them. In this system, there is in fact only one "evil": disobeying God. So, if Jehovah orders a man to rape and murder his neighbour's wife, the man is "evil" if he refuses. Of course, any genuinely moral person would see that he is evil if he obeys. Murder and rape are ALWAYS evil. Any "God" who says they are "good" if he approves of them is no God at all but the Devil.

The Nazis learned all of their lessons from Jehovah. They carried out his will exactly except they replaced him with Hitler, who was more to their Aryan taste.

Jehovah is the ultimate Nazi. He even out-Nazied Hitler himself. Every Jewish Bible should have the Nazi swastika on the front cover. Mein Kampf is as close as you can get to Jehovah's autobiography. Like Jehovah, Hitler applied the simple Fuehrer formula: everything he said or did was right, and anyone who opposed him in any way was wrong (Stalin did likewise). Thus speak all masters in the master-slave paradigm.

To any dominant person, the Jewish Bible is stomach churning and virtually incomprehensible. To take it seriously for even a second, you would have to be infected by malignant submissiveness, to the extent where you would jump off a cliff if Jehovah ordered it, and you wouldn't even ask why.

That's what the Jewish Bible is - a thousand-page avoidance of the question why. As soon as you ask why the infinitely powerful and perfect Creator of the world would end up trying to exterminate his own creation (an action of which he had complete foreknowledge) and send all of his creations (whose souls he himself created) to hell, it is impossible to find any answer in the Jewish Bible. Not that any Jews care. Their purpose was not to discover the truth of existence but to find a Torture God who would torture them in the divine way they masochistically craved.

The Jewish Bible has no connection whatever with facts, evidence, reason, logic, wisdom, knowledge and truth. It is simply the most complete exploration of sado-masochism that existed until the Marquis de Sade wrote The 120 Days of Sodom. If the Marquis had been around a few thousand years ago, the Jews would have worshipped him as their God!

The Jewish Bible reveals nothing but the deviant psychology of the submissive hordes.

"Every woman adores a Fascist, /The boot in the face, the brute / Brute heart of a brute like you." -- Sylvia Plath ("Daddy")
That is Judaism in a nutshell. Every Jew is fatally attracted to the Fascist. The Holocaust was a paroxysm of apocalyptic joy for the Jews. If that seems like a supremely tasteless thing to say, just read their Bible. And then think of the Christian Rapturists dreaming of the world ending and billions dying while they are beamed up to heaven. Why is that not regarded as sick and tasteless?

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Item - That you did engage in generalised and total hatred of humanity.

Zephaniah 3:6-10 "I have wiped out many nations, devastating their fortress walls and towers. Their cities are now deserted; their streets are in silent ruin. There are no survivors to even tell what happened. I thought, 'Surely they will have reverence for me now! Surely they will listen to my warnings, so I won't need to strike again.' But no; however much I punish them, they continue their evil practices from dawn till dusk and dusk till dawn." So now the LORD says: "Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy. On that day I will purify the lips of all people, so that everyone will be able to worship the LORD together. My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings."

Zephaniah 2:12-15 "You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword," says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great capital, Nineveh, a desolate wasteland, parched like a desert. The city that once was so proud will become a pasture for sheep and cattle. All sorts of wild animals will settle there. Owls of many kinds will live among the ruins of its palaces, hooting from the gaping windows. Rubble will block all the doorways, and the cedar panelling will lie open to the wind and weather. This is the fate of that boisterous city, once so secure. "In all the world there is no city as great as I," it boasted. But now, look how it has become an utter ruin, a place where animals live! Everyone passing that way will laugh in derision or shake a defiant fist.

Zephaniah 1:7:18 Stand in silence in the presence of the Sovereign LORD, for the awesome day of the LORD's judgment has come. The LORD has prepared his people for a great slaughter and has chosen their executioners. "On that day of judgment," says the LORD, "I will punish the leaders and princes of Judah and all those following pagan customs. Yes, I will punish those who participate in pagan worship ceremonies, and those who steal and kill to fill their masters' homes with loot. 'On that day,' says the LORD, 'a cry of alarm will come from the Fish Gate and echo throughout the newer Mishneh section of the city. And a great crashing sound will come from the surrounding hills. Wail in sorrow, all you who live in the market area, for all who buy and sell there will die. I will search with lanterns in Jerusalem's darkest corners to find and punish those who sit contented in their sins, indifferent to the LORD, thinking he will do nothing at all to them. They are the very ones whose property will be plundered by the enemy, whose homes will be ransacked. They will never have a chance to live in the new homes they have built. They will never drink wine from the vineyards they have planted.' That terrible day of the LORD is near. Swiftly it comes - a day when strong men will cry bitterly. It is a day when the LORD's anger will be poured out. It is a day of terrible distress and anguish, a day of ruin and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, of clouds, blackness, trumpet calls, and battle cries. Down go the walled cities and strongest battlements! Because you have sinned against the LORD, I will make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path. Your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground. Your silver and gold will be of no use to you on that day of the LORD's anger. For the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy. He will make a terrifying end of all the people on earth.

Zephaniah 1:2-6 "I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings."

Deuteronomy 7:16-24 You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?' But don't be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all.

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Thus spoke the ancient Nazis! If you close your eyes, you will be able to conjure grainy, black and white film images of soldiers burning villages and killing all of the screaming women and children who are desperately begging for their lives: but it's not Nazis in this film, it's Jewish soldiers from thousands of years ago, chanting the name of Jehovah as they slaughter the idol-worshipping infidels. Are we supposed to feel sorry for the descendants of these killers who refuse to condemn under any circumstances what their ancestors did for no other reason than to gratify "God"?

Item - That you did sanction the murder and rape of the Midianites.

Numbers 31:14-18: "Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."

Item - That you did sanction Slavery, Murder, Rape, Pillage and Extermination.

Deuteronomy 20:10-16 As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you…But of those cities that shall be given thee, thou shalt suffer none at all to live.

Yet again, we see the tactics that would later be embraced by the Einsatzgruppen. The SS death squads would have been unable to teach the Jews and their God any new tricks. Note that the Jewish God endorses slavery - hence why none of the slave traders who inflicted hell on millions of Africans thought they were doing anything wrong. God himself was a slaver!

Item - That you did legalise rape and sanction death for adultery.

Deuteronomy 22:14-29 If a man wants to get rid of his wife, he should accuse her of not being a virgin when they married. To defend her, her parents must provide evidence of her former virginity [good luck with that!]. A man that lies should be beaten and fined. A woman that lies should be stoned to death. If a man sleeps with another man's wife, both should be stoned to death. If a man sleeps with a woman who is engaged to be married, both should be stoned to death. If a man rapes a woman engaged to be married, he alone should be stoned to death. If a man rapes an unbetrothed woman, he must pay a fine to her father then marry her, and he is not allowed a divorce.

So, what do you think - should rape victims be forced to marry their rapists? Jehovah says they should and he will send you to hell if you disagree.

The Book of Deuteronomy also says that eunuchs can't worship in a synagogue, nor can the children of prostitutes until ten generations have passed!

Item - That you did sanction the rape of female prisoners.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamoured of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Item - That you did sanction rape and pillage.

Judges 5:30 They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man. Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.

One rape not enough for you? Do it again with someone else! God approves!

Item - That you did murder a baby boy. (2 Samuel 12)

David, Israel's greatest king from whom Jesus Christ claimed descent, arranged for his "friend" Uriah to be killed in battle so that he could have his wife (he already had several other wives and hence was a polygamist). When he had a baby with his new wife, God deliberately killed it seven days later. So much for all those pro-life Christians. God himself sanctions killing unborn children, and even personally chooses to kill babies once they are born.

Item - That you sanction killing anyone who disagrees with your priests and judges.

Deuteronomy 17:12 Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.

Item - That you sanction the killing of witches.

Exodus 22:17 You should not suffer a witch to live.

And thus was born the medieval craze for killing spinsters, lesbians, outsiders, autistics and old widows.

Item - That you sanction the killing of gays.

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."

Item - That you sanction killing fortune-tellers and psychics.

Leviticus 20:27 A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.

Er, can't they blame you? They wouldn't have died if you weren't persecuting them. Here we see the pretext used by all tyrannies ever since. Those who are slaughtered have only themselves to blame.

The Nazis blamed the Jews for being Jews. It was their fault for being Jewish. They deserved to die. It's never the fault of the killers. They are always innocent. The 9/11 Muslim maniacs were in fact "martyrs". Yeah, right!

Item - That you sanction killing children who strike their parents or swear at them.

Exodus 21:15 Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.

Leviticus 20:9 All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.

So, teenage rebellion ought to be met with extermination! That's the quick way to wipe out the human race.

Item - That you sanction killing adulterers.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.

Item - That you sanction the killing of fornicators.

Leviticus 21:9 A priest's daughter who loses her honour by committing fornication and thereby dishonours her father also, shall be burned to death.

Item - That you sanction the killing of infidels.

Exodus 22:19 Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.

Item - That you sanction the killing of atheists and agnostics.


2 Chronicles 15:12-13 They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Item - That you sanction killing non-Jewish prophets.

Zechariah 13:3 If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

So, would Jesus Christ and Mohammed qualify as false prophets to be killed by the Jews? Should Mary and Joseph have thrust through Jesus Christ when he claimed to be the Son of God? How are false prophets to be distinguished from true prophets in a religion which sanctions mass murder, rape and human sacrifice? Is the one who speaks out against persecution and genocide the false prophet?

Item - That you sanction killing everyone in a town if anyone encourages them to reject Jehovah.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19 Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

Item - That you sanction killing women who are not virgins when they marry.

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father's house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.

Item - That you sanction killing the members of a family if they seek to convert others to a new religion.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.

Item - That you sanction killing pagans.

Deuteronomy 17:2-5 Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.

The Jews and Jehovah have thereby sentenced everyone reading this website to death!

Item - That you sanction killing blasphemers.

Leviticus 24:10-16 One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die.

Item - That you sanction killing non-Jewish prophets.

Deuteronomy 13:1-5 Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.

So, you ought to kill any fortune-teller who gets your horoscope right!

Item - That you sanction killing anyone who gives wrong predictions.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.

With the previous item, you were ordered to kill prophets who were right. Now you must kill any prophets who are wrong. Why not just kill all prophets and have done with it?

Item - That you sanction killing gay men, lesbians and the sexually promiscuous.

Romans 1:24-32 So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behaviour, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

Everyone who watches porn or goes to a strip show should be killed!

Item - That you sanction killing anyone who goes near the Tabernacle.

Numbers 1:48-51 For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.'

Er, now God seems to be OK with taking a census. A few items back, he was killing 70,000 Jews for exactly the same thing. Come on Jehovah, show some consistency.

Item - That you sanction killing anyone who works on the Sabbath.

Exodus 31:12-15 The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'

All people who work in shops in capitalist shopping malls on the Sabbath should be put to death! That's the quick way of curing unemployment - kill all those who work on the Sabbath and then put the jobless in their places.

Item - That you sanction killing children who insult bald prophets.

2 Kings 2:23-24 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up bald head," they shouted, "go up bald head!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the children to pieces.

Item - That you murdered over fifty thousand people for looking into the Ark of the Covenant.

1 Samuel 6:19-20 And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, and fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

Talk about weapons of mass destruction!

Item - That you murdered a man for trying to steady the Ark of the Covenant.

2 Samuel 6:3-7 The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals. When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God.

Better to let the Ark fall into a ditch.

Item - That you killed a man for disobeying an order to strike a prophet.

1 Kings 20:35-36 Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

Next time, make sure you punch any prophet who asks for it.

Item - That you sanction the killing of the children of sinners.

Isaiah 14:21 Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.


Heinrich Himmler insisted that all Jewish children should be exterminated because, if they weren't, they would grow up and come back as avengers. He was following exactly the same logic as Jehovah.

[Kristin]

That's quite a list there buddy.
Wormhole

[ViralSpiral]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..




Can I have a map please.

Seigi = justice
Depending on where you stand, it changes shape. Like light and dark.....




I don't hate women. I only despise unenlightened women.




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[Watching from Cyprus]

if that is your lord creator, then i have a message for him/her/it: get out of here with your egocentric mind "Satan"... you have just been deceived yourself .. Love is everywhere .. hug the trees and nobody can take away the love feeling that i have for my immediate family..

[Bollinger]

Anyone who comes here quoting the bible and trying to advance the tenets of religion based on early Judaism, Christianity or Islam are easy pickings for ridicule and rebuttal.

So you have to ask the question. Why do it? For many here, any mainstream religion is an open and shut case. Obviously it all depends on your background, bringing up, experience, and so forth but there is spark of inspirational creativity as well. It is a stalemate of mutual condescending. The atheist looks on the spiritualist as a poor misguided individual who believes in unreasonable and unprovable ideas and the spiritualist considers the atheist as someone who hasn’t quite attained the depth of wisdom to rise above logic and reason which is what you have to do to get anywhere near religion or spiritual philosophy. Somewhere in between those extremes is where the majority live.

In that context we can answer the question: why people do it? It gives a person great satisfaction to have their religion or reason questioned because contention is great way to advance your ideas. Nobody will listen if you are uncontentious or uncontroversial. The second reason is a little more subtle. It means you want your ideas to be contested because perhaps you are experiencing some doubts about the stance you’ve held for so long and would now welcome some opposing ideas. The result of this may weaken or further strengthen your convictions. Either way, it is healthy so long as we don't resort to personal attacks and character assassination.

[truth4me]

Since you love the Lord Creator more then anything else does "he" love you more then any of "his" other creations? I would think not. Kinda like some people believe "Jesus is YOUR own personal savior"......

[D-Day]

Time for a little music...

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[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

I said to the almond tree, ‘Sister, speak to me of God.’

And the almond tree blossomed.


–Nikos Kazantzakis




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[karelia]

Thread temporarily closed until mods are awake enough to function.

[christian]

This thread is delicate again, but if seigiarchon would have used a slightly different wording and if he wouldn't have that history of posting rather dubious threads, this could have taken another direction. People do themselves no favor when they antagonize him, call him a troll and say he is just full of it. It's harder and more fruitful to twist his stuff into something beautiful. It's possible.

I'd like to give it a shot. Now the following is the edited version of his first two posts in this thread:



Once you consciously reconnect to the source, you will remember your love for it.

You will remember it as the most glorious, most holy, most magnificent 'being' as it is the source of the universe itself.

You will find, you will never be as superficially attached when you love any other human being or anything else again, as you were before.

You will lose your narrow perspective on your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country.

What is Lucifer's most evil and most successful tactic?

He convinces us, that our attachement to our spouses, our children, our parents, our friends and families, our cars, houses and wealth, our career and status, our happiness are more important than consciously establishing the reconnection to our higher selves.

That is how the devil turns us against our own evolution.

The truth is, nothing is more important than evolving, not even the attachement to our own lives or our own superficial happiness are more important than that.


I agree with what others said before, that the love for the source is mirrored in our love for all-that-is. I think, this is now also stated implicitly in this edited version.

I left out the "creator" of that version, because I think all-that-is, all the came from the source is the collective creator, we are creator-beings. This would be another possible way to twist the OP, the love to our true nature and purpose as creator beings (instead of love to the source).

I suggest we refrain from feeling gravely irritated by disputable posts, show some compassion or maybe just leave it alone. I see good examples of that in this thread and thus I'm for re-opening it, to demonstrate how this community can deal with this kind of issue in a very mature way.

[9eagle9]

Recruiter doens't have the same ring.


Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

[write4change]

This thread is delicate again, but if seigiarchon would have used a slightly different wording and if he wouldn't have that history of posting rather dubious threads, this could have taken another direction. People do themselves no favor when they antagonize him, call him a troll and say he is just full of it. It's harder and more fruitful to twist his stuff into something beautiful. It's possible.

I'd like to give it a shot. Now the following is the edited version of his first two posts in this thread:



Once you consciously reconnect to the source, you will remember your love for it.

You will remember it as the most glorious, most holy, most magnificent 'being' as it is the source of the universe itself.

You will find, you will never be as superficially attached when you love any other human being or anything else again, as you were before.

You will lose your narrow perspective on your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country.

What is Lucifer's most evil and most successful tactic?

He convinces us, that our attachement to our spouses, our children, our parents, our friends and families, our cars, houses and wealth, our career and status, our happiness are more important than consciously establishing the reconnection to our higher selves.

That is how the devil turns us against our own evolution.

The truth is, nothing is more important than evolving, not even the attachement to our own lives or our own superficial happiness are more important than that.


I agree with what others said before, that the love for the source is mirrored in our love for all-that-is. I think, this is now also stated implicitly in this edited version.

I left out the "creator" of that version, because I think all-that-is, all the came from the source is the collective creator, we are creator-beings. This would be another possible way to twist the OP, the love to our true nature and purpose as creator beings (instead of love to the source).

I suggest we refrain from feeling gravely irritated by disputable posts, show some compassion or maybe just leave it alone. I see good examples of that in this thread and thus I'm for re-opening it, to demonstrate how this community can deal with this kind of issue in a very mature way.

I have been up all night and I am just now going to bed. I may actually try astral projection and bring you a kiss of peace. I am constantly amazed by your abilities to seek and find god in everything. A good note to sleep on thank you.

[Maia Gabrial]

People who have had NDE and who have been before the ALL THAT IS/GOD/CREATOR discover that we're all part of IT and each other. After such a thing, you CAN'T hate one person and still claim to love the Creator. It's true that nothing compares to the OMNIPOTENT RESONANCE of the Creator. But it doesn't sound as though you've been forever changed by it. It should have wiped out all your negativity, ignorance and hatred....

Everyone who has been through near death or in the presence of the Creator, comes away loving people and life even more. What happened to you, seigarchon?
Most of the cases I've read about, ALL of these people had expanded consciousness and understanding while being in the death experience. Again, what happened to you, seigarchon?
I'm not sensing that the OMNIPOTENT RESONANCE affected you at all....
Makes me wonder who you DID meet...

[ghostrider]

you meet God, and you want to be just like that as much as you can.. which means you'll love everyone more than you use to....overwhelming is an understatement.. loving and forgiving not matter the mistake, the power of love will conquer the love of power..... challenge yourself to be better everyday....

[blufire]

seigiarchon . . . . . out of respect to what I suspect are your encompassing beliefs within a certain religious sect . . as a woman, I am not addressing you directly. I will not be a part of your Corporal Mortification.

I have watched and read seigiarchon’s threads and I am almost certain he is a fledging numerary of Opus Dei. Which is a highly controversial and extreme sect of the Catholic Church.

He has represented or shown clearly many attributes of this cult which includes, misogyny or hatred or women, traits or claims of celibacy and/or revulsion towards the sex act and it’s offending “member”, extreme reverence to an omnipotent God to the neglect and hatred toward all else, extreme proselytizing for his religion in fact they are taught that they “must kill themselves for proselytism”, Opus Die are elitist and have ties to the illuminati, they are masochist and perform self flagellation and/or wear a cilice. It is also required in the training proclaim a supernatural vocation, of which he is showing in his threads and posts.

There are elements of “other” dark powerful forces within his aura and words that I believe he is struggling mightily with to reconcile, accept and incorporate into the Opus Dei beliefs or to fully reject.

My deeper suspicious because of his anger and confusion is he has probably been rejected as a numerary or he is practicing without a teacher.

I assume he cannot hear us and must not hear us.

If you notice he will be gone for many hours and sometimes days at a time. The longest being when he was questioned by a very pretty young girl/member (in his "other thread") about having sex. My suspicion is his self flagellation was very severe.

I suspect he is deep within the hold of the perceived power of this cult.

[Earth Angel]

having read Christians post I have deleted mine as I all I could say was troll and bull****......better to say nothing

[Maia Gabrial]

seigiarchon . . . . . out of respect to what I suspect are your encompassing beliefs within a certain religious sect . . as a woman, I am not addressing you directly. I will not be a part of your Corporal Mortification.

I have watched and read seigiarchon’s threads and I am almost certain he is a fledging numerary of Opus Dei. Which is a highly controversial and extreme sect of the Catholic Church.

He has represented or shown clearly many attributes of this cult which includes, misogyny or hatred or women, traits or claims of celibacy and/or revulsion towards the sex act and it’s offending “member”, extreme reverence to an omnipotent God to the neglect and hatred toward all else, extreme proselytizing for his religion in fact they are taught that they “must kill themselves for proselytism”, Opus Die are elitist and have ties to the illuminati, they are masochist and perform self flagellation and/or wear a cilice. It is also required in the training proclaim a supernatural vocation, of which he is showing in his threads and posts.

There are elements of “other” dark powerful forces within his aura and words that I believe he is struggling mightily with to reconcile, accept and incorporate into the Opus Dei beliefs or to fully reject.

My deeper suspicious because of his anger and confusion is he has probably been rejected as a numerary or he is practicing without a teacher.

I assume he cannot hear us and must not hear us.

If you notice he will be gone for many hours and sometimes days at a time. The longest being when he was questioned by a very pretty young girl/member (in his "other thread") about having sex. My suspicion is his self flagellation was very severe.

I suspect he is deep within the hold of the perceived power of this cult.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, blufire. I wasn't aware of this and I appreciate it very much. This will help all of us to perceive seigiarchon better....

[observer]

Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

what's in a name?

The Japanese translation of the word Seigi means "justice". Since you have combined the words justice and archon, it appears you have your understanding of the words misconstrued.

Within the text discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945 all references to the archons were a reference to a 'bad thing'. Your username would imply a suggestion that there was some sort of justice in what the archons do.

There can be a whole lot of meaning in a name, seigiarchon.

[jorr lundstrom]

I Started a thread called " How the Draconians try to kill the luminous child"
Its all about wot the archons are and wot their Lord Archon is. They are
envious decievers, wanting to be like us, which they cant so then they try
to manipulate us to become like them instead. And if we are not aware we
will end up relating to machines as if they were the real deal. Link....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32202-How-the-Draconians-try-to-kill-the-luminous-child


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..

You will remember your love for Him..

Your will remember him as the Most Glorious, Most Holy, Most Magnificent Being in the Universe as He is the Universe itself..

You will find you will never love any other human being or anything else again..

You will lose all your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country...

h-0G_FI61a8

You blow yourself up at childrens birthday parties too?

CsT0S0575HU

[778 neighbour of some guy]

what is Lucifer's most evil and most successful tactic?

he convinces us that our spouses, our children, our parents, our friends and families, our cars, houses and wealth, our career and status, our happiness are more important than the Lord Creator himself..

that is how the devil turns us against the Lord Creator..

the truth is..

nothing is more important than the Lord Creator..

not even our own lives or our own happiness are more important than the Lord Creator..

You scare the medevil sh!t out of me dude, and for all the wrong reasons.

I am speechless, which should make you very happy.

[cellardoor]

Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

what's in a name?

The Japanese translation of the word Seigi means "justice". Since you have combined the words justice and archon, it appears you have your understanding of the words misconstrued.

Within the text discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945 all references to the archons were a reference to a 'bad thing'. Your username would imply a suggestion that there was some sort of justice in what the archons do.

There can be a whole lot of meaning in a name, seigiarchon.

The Archon of justice would be AA Raguel, so lets see what Raguel's job is shall we; Raguel is referred to as the archangel of justice, fairness and harmony. In the Book of Enoch Raguel is one of the seven archangels whose function is to take vengeance on the world of the luminaries who have transgressed God's laws. Raguel brings a course of fire which persecutes all the fallen luminaries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raguel_(angel)

hmm............

He sound a hoot!

Please tell God Raguel that he can stick his laws. Thank you.

[cloud9]

I'm always careful not to cross any fanatic religious path...

[observer]

Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

what's in a name?

The Japanese translation of the word Seigi means "justice". Since you have combined the words justice and archon, it appears you have your understanding of the words misconstrued.

Within the text discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945 all references to the archons were a reference to a 'bad thing'. Your username would imply a suggestion that there was some sort of justice in what the archons do.

There can be a whole lot of meaning in a name, seigiarchon.

The Archon of justice would be AA Raguel, so lets see what Raguel's job is shall we; Raguel is referred to as the archangel of justice, fairness and harmony. In the Book of Enoch Raguel is one of the seven archangels whose function is to take vengeance on the world of the luminaries who have transgressed God's laws. Raguel brings a course of fire which persecutes all the fallen luminaries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raguel_(angel)

hmm............

He sound a hoot!

Please tell God Raguel that he can stick his laws. Thank you.

I usually find some agreement with your point of view, cellardoor, but this time I think you may have confused the issue.

Archons and Archangels are not the same concept.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=50&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=50&feature=plpp_video

Move the timer over to 7 minutes, 50 seconds.

The Archons are a predatory species that feeds on the souls of Humanity. I don't believe Archangels fit into this category.

Our history has been so misconstrued by this predatory species that nothing we think we know is actually real.

Just my opinion....

[Cilka]

So "The Art of Trolling" has taken new courses!

Trolling is an interesting activity, you have to have a little knowledge about the subjects you deal with and you have to know others' weaknesses on these new subjects. Possibly a bored average iq guy between age 20-25 can be a good troll-candidate. But when you're an experienced forum reader, in every sentence you can see/feel this bored troll teen-mind in the posts.

This is what I see here. Sieg, you've got a loong way to become a good troll. These trials are too clumsy.

Good luck on your path.

Seig is not a Troll. He is just a regular Christian who loves Jesus, that's all. And the reason for him being here is that he wants to change our minds about Jesus, he wants us to dedicate our lives to Jesus, to love Jesus, to constantly think about Jesus, to do things for Jesus, to pray to Jesus, to listen to Jesus etc. He just does not realize that no matter what he does majority of us will not cross the line and join his list of members of Jesus Lovers.

He is just trying real hard to save our souls. The thing is that in order to have a soul saved, the one who owns the soul must be willing to have its soul saved. I choose to own my soul, and no thanks I dont need anyone to save me from anything including myself. I love me the way I am.

[risveglio]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..

You will lose all your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country...

If that is the case, I choose not to meet him.

[Raven]

thanks so much for posting this John Lash interview Observer - I had listened to it when it came out but got a lot more out of it listening again!





Seigiarchon, I see that you've incorporated the word "archon" into your username.
I wonder if this was a conscious or unconscious thought process on your part.
All the best to you, seigiarchon.

what's in a name?

The Japanese translation of the word Seigi means "justice". Since you have combined the words justice and archon, it appears you have your understanding of the words misconstrued.

Within the text discovered at Nag Hammadi, Egypt in 1945 all references to the archons were a reference to a 'bad thing'. Your username would imply a suggestion that there was some sort of justice in what the archons do.

There can be a whole lot of meaning in a name, seigiarchon.

The Archon of justice would be AA Raguel, so lets see what Raguel's job is shall we; Raguel is referred to as the archangel of justice, fairness and harmony. In the Book of Enoch Raguel is one of the seven archangels whose function is to take vengeance on the world of the luminaries who have transgressed God's laws. Raguel brings a course of fire which persecutes all the fallen luminaries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raguel_(angel)

hmm............

He sound a hoot!

Please tell God Raguel that he can stick his laws. Thank you.

I usually find some agreement with your point of view, cellardoor, but this time I think you may have confused the issue.

Archons and Archangels are not the same concept.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=50&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=50&feature=plpp_video

Move the timer over to 7 minutes, 50 seconds.

The Archons are a predatory species that feeds on the souls of Humanity. I don't believe Archangels fit into this category.

Our history has been so misconstrued by this predatory species that nothing we think we know is actually real.

Just my opinion....

[Rogerc]

:hail:"He is just trying real hard to save our souls. The thing is that in order to have a soul saved, the one who owns the soul must be willing to have its soul saved. I choose to own my soul, and no thanks I dont need anyone to save me from anything including myself. I love me the way I am.":hail:

All good but to be a teacher one must have learnt, ergo to save souls one must have saved one's own. To me Seig is a lost soul who thinks he can rack up points by proselytising.
Seems to be a common Christian ideology.

[conk]

Total and unwashed BS. You would have us buy into the divide and conquer scheme? That our loved ones, our families are not one with god? Horse puck!

The Creator and us are the SAME. There is nothing to separate, it's all the one single energy in existence.

[deridan]

So "The Art of Trolling" has taken new courses!

Trolling is an interesting activity, you have to have a little knowledge about the subjects you deal with and you have to know others' weaknesses on these new subjects. Possibly a bored average iq guy between age 20-25 can be a good troll-candidate. But when you're an experienced forum reader, in every sentence you can see/feel this bored troll teen-mind in the posts.

This is what I see here. Sieg, you've got a loong way to become a good troll. These trials are too clumsy.

Good luck on your path.

Seig is not a Troll. He is just a regular Christian who loves Jesus, that's all. And the reason for him being here is that he wants to change our minds about Jesus, he wants us to dedicate our lives to Jesus, to love Jesus, to constantly think about Jesus, to do things for Jesus, to pray to Jesus, to listen to Jesus etc. He just does not realize that no matter what he does majority of us will not cross the line and join his list of members of Jesus Lovers.

He is just trying real hard to save our souls. The thing is that in order to have a soul saved, the one who owns the soul must be willing to have its soul saved. I choose to own my soul, and no thanks I dont need anyone to save me from anything including myself. I love me the way I am.

good summary.
saved or not, what side of the boat or off the boat you are..
..aren't these just semantics.
--maybe we all react or act within the higher dimensional realms the same,,,the worst being obviously being more engrossed in the 3d

[AuCo]

Once you meet the Lord Creator..

You will remember your love for Him..

Your will remember him as the Most Glorious, Most Holy, Most Magnificent Being in the Universe as He is the Universe itself..

You will find you will never love any other human being or anything else again..

You will lose all your love for your spouse, your partner, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your car, your house, your food, your wealth, your possessions, your career, your country...

h-0G_FI61a8

Whoa! And all along I kept thinking when I meet the Almighty, I will learn to love my enemy as much as the Creator himself. :o

[Cilka]

So "The Art of Trolling" has taken new courses!

Trolling is an interesting activity, you have to have a little knowledge about the subjects you deal with and you have to know others' weaknesses on these new subjects. Possibly a bored average iq guy between age 20-25 can be a good troll-candidate. But when you're an experienced forum reader, in every sentence you can see/feel this bored troll teen-mind in the posts.

This is what I see here. Sieg, you've got a loong way to become a good troll. These trials are too clumsy.

Good luck on your path.

Seig is not a Troll. He is just a regular Christian who loves Jesus, that's all. And the reason for him being here is that he wants to change our minds about Jesus, he wants us to dedicate our lives to Jesus, to love Jesus, to constantly think about Jesus, to do things for Jesus, to pray to Jesus, to listen to Jesus etc. He just does not realize that no matter what he does majority of us will not cross the line and join his list of members of Jesus Lovers.

He is just trying real hard to save our souls. The thing is that in order to have a soul saved, the one who owns the soul must be willing to have its soul saved. I choose to own my soul, and no thanks I dont need anyone to save me from anything including myself. I love me the way I am.

good summary.
saved or not, what side of the boat or off the boat you are..
..aren't these just semantics.
--maybe we all react or act within the higher dimensional realms the same,,,the worst being obviously being more engrossed in the 3d

Deridan, fortunately I am sailing on my own boat. Over the years I have realized that it is almost impossible to reason with people who are set in their own way no matter how hard one tries to explain to them a different view of things, so, I try to use some humour with these individuals.

[Rantaak]

Not sure if we're thinking of the same creator.

Final fantasy rocks! Deep inspiration.