(Classified) NORAD satellite Video of Missile Hitting the Pentagon..!

[jackovesk]

Found this on Veterans Today article...

Its was uploaded on Sept 1, 2011

But vetted by VT...

The following video shows a cruise type missile hitting the Pentagon. It was taken from a NORAD satellite at great distance. How do we know? We just do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KDbHOUso8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KDbHOUso8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/

[dreamer]

I don't know too much about satellites, but I'm fairly sure that was not video from a satellite, it was taken from some plane or something a lot closer, the movement of the cameras perspective gives it away.

[jackovesk]

I don't know too much about satellites, but I'm fairly sure that was not video from a satellite, it was taken from some plane or something a lot closer, the movement of the cameras perspective gives it away.

Well then Dreamer, you must know better than Veteran's Today - Gordon Duff's (Intel)..???

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/

If its Ok with you, I'll take Gordon Duff's (Intel) over your opinion, all the same...:yes4:

Cheers...

[Maia Gabrial]

Aren't our satelites capable of zooming in that close? But to tell the truth, it looks like it was taken by someone from a distance near ground level. The whole point is that we've been deceived....

[RMorgan]

Aren't our satelites capable of zooming in that close? But to tell the truth, it looks like it was taken by someone from a distance near ground level. The whole point is that we've been deceived....

Hey guys,

I know satellites can zoom in impressively, but I don´t think a satellite can change it´s viewing angle as well.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Selene]

Whether the video is from a satellite or something else I cannot say. But one thing seems clear: "Something" was watching the Pentagon from high above, and very likely waiting for "something" to happen.... Why else would it be looking?

[jaybee]

Found this on Veterans Today article...

Its was uploaded on Sept 1, 2011

But vetted by VT...

The following video shows a cruise type missile hitting the Pentagon. It was taken from a NORAD satellite at great distance. How do we know? We just do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KDbHOUso8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KDbHOUso8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/


I'm sorry to say (no, I'm not really :p) that this video promoted and 'vetted' by Gordon Duff is an epic FAIL.


The uploader says they had never seen the Pentagon 'missile hit' video before....but it's been around for years.....!!!

here it is from 2007.....if I remember right there is an even older uploading of it but I can't find it.


6fumivnGTPE


The thing is...the point of 'impact' is in the wrong place. And so it is a hoax.

Compare the position in the video with this picture


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911-pentagon-3days.jpg



If this video is fake....as it must be, because of the wrong position of 'impact'...

then what does this say about Gordon Duff?

these are his words from the article....'The following video shows a cruise type missile hitting the Pentagon. It was taken from a NORAD satellite at great distance. How do we know? We just do.'

:/


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[kersley]

We all know that the whole thing was an inside job. How do we bring those responsible to pay for their crimes?

[tonton]

This scam and down right lie was a fantastic way to prove that the general public are truely blind, and if they are not they want to be.i would imagine that the test was a smashing(literary) success.the bosses as i like to say must have been dancing and laughing about it . i dought very much that they expected such good results with collective ignorance and blindness. all the the best with your success bosses .
it wont be long till we find you...............not all are blind............not all conform...........not all will run.

[Prodigal Son]

[QUOTE=jackovesk;463562]
The thing is...the point of 'impact' is in the wrong place. And so it is a hoax.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing, because I see nothing wrong with the point of impact. What I do see, although it looks almost exactly as I would have imagined, is a missile that seems to be coming in at an inconsistent speed, slowing down and then speeding up... so for that reason I'm sorry to say it could be a hoax, I'm not going to take this and run with it as a "smoking gun", although I would love it if it was....

Personally, I think Rumsfeld's "slip" that it was a missile is more damaging....

[jaybee]

The thing is...the point of 'impact' is in the wrong place. And so it is a hoax.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing, because I see nothing wrong with the point of impact. .


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911missilepentagon.png
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911-pentagon-3days.jpg


now do you see it? :)


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[DreamsInDigital]

It was an AGM' 86D Calcm that hit the pentagon, the more Ironic of all with that whole 9-11 fiasco was the molecular disrupter they used on the WTC towers after flying holographic airplanes into the buildings. They apparently removed the weapon it's self but the beam (because of the funny way our universe works) is still having effects in the ground zero, they can't build nothing there because they can't shut the darn thing off. Ofcourse they also used nuclear charges in the foundation, and thermite along with some other nano-explosive technology to bring those towers down.

[DarMar]

considering video quality it could be hand drawn as far as i see

[DreamsInDigital]

considering video quality it could be hand drawn as far as i see
I haven't even seen the video, but I said in my above post precisely what hit the pentagon.

[haibane]

According to the radar data released though FOIA there were quite a lot of aircraft in the area at the time of impact, many obviously military, some circling Pentagon even, so I'd say lotta footage was taken, although the one at the OP seems a bit fishy to me.

[ThePythonicCow]

The thing is...the point of 'impact' is in the wrong place.
Dang - you're right.

That video shows the missile hitting slightly to the left of the center of the side it hit, whereas the damage was done a fair bit to the right of center on that side.

[Selene]

Jaybee ~

The video you’ve uploaded is certainly not the same one as the current post under discussion. Its fabulous high quality makes it highly suspect to be a disinfo mis-direct and fabricated…… “Seen it all…POS…hah hah…etc” Not, of course, that any agency might be covering its assets.

Referring to other threads about disinfo trolls…. How “convenient” that you have this video at hand. No kidding, kiddo. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43330-Paid-Internet-Shill-s-confession-found-on-ATS&p=461165#post461165

Your diligence is awesome. Yeah.

Protest if you will (and you will) but oddly enough there’s a curious pattern to your posts….. :ohwell: BTW, I've already 'reported' this, my own post, so don't bother.

Kisses,

Selene






The thing is...the point of 'impact' is in the wrong place. And so it is a hoax.

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing, because I see nothing wrong with the point of impact. .


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911missilepentagon.png
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911-pentagon-3days.jpg


now do you see it? :)


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[Tommy]

First, thanks for posting jackovesk ! I always forget to read VT for some reason, even though I know I should :)

Selene: Thank you! I noticed this too! Glad you pointed it out.

So Jaybee, care to explain this one? I mean, wtf?

UPDATE: I encourage everyone reading this thread to do some research on satellite technology during the past 15-20 years. What they usually (used to do) is to take x amount of pictures\frames per second on a set location, and then it get's processed into a moving picture after download and processing. This is official information I have know and read for a long time because I am researching how to create my own satellite system (for fun and personal interest, nothing serious). I just think it would serve everyone well to read up on this, not only because of this, but for general references :)

[ThePythonicCow]

The video you’ve uploaded is certainly not the same one as the current post under discussion. Its fabulous high quality makes it highly suspect
True - jaybee's video is higher quality.

But both jackovesk's video in the opening post, and jaybee's video, show a "missile" (blurry white thing) hitting just to the left of the center of that side of the Pentagon, and just to the left of the whitish concrete pad (helicopter pad) that is on the lawn beneath that side of the building, about in the center of that side.

The actual impact was to the right of center and the right of the helicopter pad. Here's a couple more images, showing where the actual impact was:



http://members.shaw.ca/freedomsix/pics/Pentagon_9_7_01.jpg


http://bogusstory.com/010914-F-8006R-002_screen.jpg


The yellow crane and the three red trucks (bins?) in the lower left are sitting on the helicopter pad.

[Tommy]

Thanks Paul.

Jaybee: Perhaps be more clear next time to avoid confusion, best to reference the source material :)

[jackovesk]

Thanks Paul.

Jaybee: Perhaps be more clear next time to avoid confusion, best to reference the source material :)

In all Honesty seeingterra, its not a matter whether I am wrong or jaybee is right &/or Gordon Duff got it wrong on this occassion..?

The fact remains, that jaybee has been waiting in the wings to discredit anything I have to say...:yes4:

I posted this in good faith, very early in the morning 'Australian' time...

What I was reading from Gordon Duff (VT Editor) was sound enough for consideration...

The (FACT) remains we all know that a plane 'DID NOT' hit the Pentagon...:nono:

1 out of 10 for 'Trolling Points' jaybee, I will stack up my contributions to the Avalonian 'Forum' against yours any second of the day, day of week, week of the year, year in year out, ect, ect, ect..! :yes4:

[Alie]

Thanks Paul.

Jaybee: Perhaps be more clear next time to avoid confusion, best to reference the source material :)

In all Honesty seeingterra, its not a matter whether I am wrong or jaybee is right &/or Gordon Duff got it wrong on this occassion..?

The fact remains, that jaybee has been waiting in the wings to discredit anything I have to say...:yes4:

I posted this in good faith, very early in the morning 'Australian' time...

What I was reading from Gordon Duff (VT Editor) was sound enough for consideration...

The (FACT) remains we all know that a plane 'DID NOT' hit the Pentagon...:nono:

1 out of 10 for 'Trolling Points' jaybee, I will stack up my contributions to the Avalonian 'Forum' against yours any second of the day, day of week, week of the year, year in year out, ect, ect, ect..! :yes4:

When I was "invited" into PA, Bill Ryan's welcome message was about this forum being like a party. And like any real party, we gather around those who are "interesting" and ignore those who aren't. I do have to say that you, jackovesk, have been very interesting. thanks.

[jaybee]

In all Honesty seeingterra, its not a matter whether I am wrong or jaybee is right &/or Gordon Duff got it wrong on this occassion..?

regarding the video in your opening post and Duff's declaration...

he did get it wrong....the question is...why did he promote the video as evidence when it wasn't. With his military background you would have thought if he were accusing his own government of High Treason and Mass Murder he would be a bit more careful with his sources and evidence.

Unless, of course, he is just trying to mess with our heads. Which I think he is.



The fact remains, that jaybee has been waiting in the wings to discredit anything I have to say...:yes4:


how very dramatic....how many threads do you start? How many do I comment on?



1 out of 10 for 'Trolling Points' jaybee, I will stack up my contributions to the Avalonian 'Forum' against yours any second of the day, day of week, week of the year, year in year out, ect, ect, ect..! :yes4:


since when did pointing out a hoax video become trolling? You should be thanking me not attacking me

[Alie]

Please see the entire presentation from Veteren's Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/), which will broaden the view of what Jackovest is presenting. Also, Jackovest, it mentions about Putin recognizing the Bush 9/11 involvement, and I noticed you're presenting us with some Putin info as well. Synchronicity I guess.

[jackovesk]

In all Honesty seeingterra, its not a matter whether I am wrong or jaybee is right &/or Gordon Duff got it wrong on this occassion..?

regarding the video in your opening post and Duff's declaration...

he did get it wrong....the question is...why did he promote the video as evidence when it wasn't. With his military background you would have thought if he were accusing his own government of High Treason and Mass Murder he would be a bit more careful with his sources and evidence.

Unless, of course, he is just trying to mess with our heads. Which I think he is.



The fact remains, that jaybee has been waiting in the wings to discredit anything I have to say...:yes4:


how very dramatic....how many threads do you start? How many do I comment on?



1 out of 10 for 'Trolling Points' jaybee, I will stack up my contributions to the Avalonian 'Forum' against yours any second of the day, day of week, week of the year, year in year out, ect, ect, ect..! :yes4:


since when did pointing out a hoax video become trolling? You should be thanking me not attacking me

Your slight of toungue always comes back to you does'nt it jaybee...:yes4:

Do you honestly know for a (FACT) that Gordon Duff's statement was...False...:confused:

After reading your intial theory, I thought to myself where did you of all people derive that opinion from...???

Then it dawned on me, YOU read the adverse 'Comments' section of the article, didn't you...:yes4:

If anyone does'nt believe me, go have a look for yourself..!

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/

Why..? Because of reason's previously stated...:yes4:

Like I said before...

The (FACT) remains we all know that a plane 'DID NOT' hit the Pentagon...:nono:

Can we at least agree on that..???

[Cidersomerset]

Cruise Missile - US Air Force JASSM ER Medley

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A video medley provided by the US Air Force on six test flights of the JASSM extended range (ER) cruise missile. Clips show
the 500nm-range air-to-ground missile hitting a simulated bunker wih 2ft-thick steel-reinforced concrete. Other hits show the
missile, which could be deployed in the second half of 2013, hitting a shallow-buried bunker and communications vans.

To me the missile flying in the beggining of the above clip looks like what flew into the Pentegon !!!

[jaybee]

The video you’ve uploaded is certainly not the same one as the current post under discussion. Its fabulous high quality makes it highly suspect
True - jaybee's video is higher quality.

But both jackovesk's video in the opening post, and jaybee's video, show a "missile" (blurry white thing) hitting just to the left of the center of that side of the Pentagon, and just to the left of the whitish concrete pad (helicopter pad) that is on the lawn beneath that side of the building, about in the center of that side.

The actual impact was to the right of center and the right of the helicopter pad. .


Thanks Paul.....


I am as sure as I can be that the video clip of the 'missile hit' in the OP comes from the same one that I posted from 2007.


There are other bits of the OP video that I find interesting as well....

While the uploader doesn't specify it clearly...they show a couple of images of what is the 'exit hole' (of whatever the hell it was) but talk about it as if it is the 'entrance hole'.......:ohwell:

[jaybee]

jackovesk said...

Do you honestly know for a (FACT) that Gordon Duff's statement was...False...:confused:


If he is basing it on the 'missile hit' video, that I have proved to be a hoax, then yes, it must be false....



After reading your intial theory, I thought to myself where did you of all people derive that opinion from...???

Then it dawned on me, YOU read the adverse 'Comments' section of the article, didn't you...:yes4:

actually no...I didn't...but I'll go and have a look in a minute.



The (FACT) remains we all know that a plane 'DID NOT' hit the Pentagon...:nono:

Can we at least agree on that..???


I don't think that a plane hit the Pentagon. Even though 9/11 is a major brain-ache I spent some time doing intensive research a while back. I do not subscribe to it being an Inside Job, though. But a Cover Up of 'things' that the US government and military did that day broadly as damage limitation and defence. But for political and public relations reasons these 'things' have been kept quiet. And a fully blown Inside Job Conspiracy put in place to help obscure the truth of what really happened.


Regarding the Pentagon.....My current opinion is.....that Flight 77 was taken by remote control over the Atlantic Ocean and shot down, as a defensive measure.
That maybe a truck load of explosives was driven into the Pentagon by Suicide Islamic terrorists (because nothing was going to get it by air).....and to cover up this embarassing turn of events and to cover up what was done to flight 77... a mock up of an Airliner crash was put in place at the Pentagon.

The truck may have been fired upon by land-based missile defence?

Hence the holes....

(speculation)


Anyway....it is a huge subject.

And mentally exhausting at the best of times.....so that's all for now....:)


I am perfectly aware that most people on this forum think it was an Inside Job.

And to express any other opinion will be used against me...but I can't help that.


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[jackovesk]

Regarding the Pentagon.....My current opinion is.....that Flight 77 was taken by remote control over the Atlantic Ocean and shot down, as a defensive measure.
That maybe a truck load of explosives was driven into the Pentagon by Suicide Islamic terrorists (because nothing was going to get it by air).....and to cover up this embarassing turn of events and to cover up what was done to flight 77... a mock up of an Airliner crash was put in place at the Pentagon.

The truck may have been fired upon by land-based missile defence?

Hence the holes....




That maybe a truck load of explosives was driven into the Pentagon by Suicide Islamic terrorists (because nothing was going to get it by air)

The truck may have been fired upon by land-based missile defence?


Jaybee, I'll let others pass judgement on this 'Theory' not me...:)

[ThePythonicCow]

The fact remains, that jaybee has been waiting in the wings to discredit anything I have to say...:yes4:
It looks to me like you got a bit defensive here, jackovesk, in response to a reasonable discussion of the content of a video you posted.

Please don't attack fellow members on the forum. Especially when done in your colorful style, it tends to derail threads.

[ThePythonicCow]

To me the missile flying in the beggining of the above clip looks like what flew into the Pentagon !!!
Have you seen a reasonable resolution image of what flew into the Pentagon?

I haven't, so I have no way of telling whether any particular plane/missile/... of generally the right size and capabilities is what flew into the Pentagon or not.

[Selene]

Jaybee ~


If he [Duff] is basing it on the 'missile hit' video, that I have proved to be a hoax, then yes, it must be false....

You have done nothing of the sort here. Not at all.

Instead, you’ve done the old “bait and switch” disinfo tactic: set up a second straw man (i.e. the video you posted), knock it down as a “hoax” and hope that somehow the reader will mistakenly infer that the original video under discussion here is false as well. And, oh by the way, so is Gordon Duff.

That’s pure, unmitigated trolling at its finest. Textbook. Two votes out of ten here. And if you’d like to increase your score, I can quote other examples from previous posts, or the intelligent reader here can just add up their own troll score.

Regards,

Selene

[ThePythonicCow]

Instead, you’ve done the old “bait and switch” disinfo tactic: set up a second straw man (i.e. the video you posted), knock it down as a “hoax” and hope that somehow the reader will mistakenly infer that the original video under discussion here is false as well. And, oh by the way, so is Gordon Duff.
That's odd :). You thanked my post above, in which I agreed with jaybee on what seemed to me like firm technical grounds - both jaybee's video and the Duff video posted by jackovesk in the opening post of this thread show the "missile" (white blurry thing) hitting the Pentagon on the wrong side of the Helicopter pad. So I would have figured that you had read and understood and to some extent at least agreed with that point.

Then right after I chastise jackovesk for attacking jaybee ... you double up on that attack.

Both you and jackovesk may be a bit lucky today ... I have to run off on a personal errand, so can not engage in any more "moderation" of this thread or its participants right now.

[Selene]

Hi, Paul ~

Yes, I did thank you for the additional photos. But if you’ll re-read my post #17 here, you’ll see my comments re a trolling attempt by Jaybee were (I thought) quite pointed at the time. Perhaps I should have been more explicit, but I wanted to avoid appearing too confrontational, per our guidelines.

Also I neglected to point out earlier that the original video from Gordon Duff does not actually show the moment – and therefore location – of the impact. The film seems to stop with the “white streak” just outside of the building, still on its trajectory. Something in the missile does appear to “flare out” just ahead of entering its target, but this could be a property of the missile itself converting from ‘cruise’ to ‘detonate’ mode. (That is, it enters its target already as a fireball, rather than the impact itself causing a subsequent explosion. This would make the weapon’s actual impact much more destructive. The 'scorched earth' shown in the overhead photo is probably evidence for such a 'pre-fireball ignition' since the purported "aircraft" per the "official version" did not actually scrape over the ground before hitting the building, did it?) The video seems to be one frame shy of the final impact – which is not surprising, considering the long history of the letter agencies excising crucial evidence when it does not flatter them. This tape is undoubtedly a clandestine copy of something – but the damning moment in it had already been excised…

Second point: I awoke in the middle of the night last night regretting that I had not been more carefully explanatory of Jaybee’s ‘straw man’ tactics in my post #17 and thought that perhaps I should make a second post to clarify my view.

Voila. When I looked at this thread today, there was the perfect quote awaiting me, claiming to do what had not, in fact, been done. And while I have the greatest respect for Jacovesk’s opinion, I would have made my comments here at any rate.

And with great respect and thanks for your most helpful views, I will stand by mine.

Regards,

Selene

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
To me the missile flying in the beggining of the above clip looks like what flew into the Pentagon !!!
Have you seen a reasonable resolution image of what flew into the Pentagon?

I haven't, so I have no way of telling whether any particular plane/missile/... of generally the right size and capabilities is what flew into the Pentagon or not.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ScreenHunter_14-Aug.-29-22.47.jpg

I know the photo is inconclusive but it does not look like 757 to me...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8_NPZkG4yCNwJWwWejTHFq6mi8KXY8YPBOl7MrPQ4hFBmgJf1Kw

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/filmi_sangeet/media/1998_cruise_missile.jpg

If it was a plane with all the cameras around the the Pentagon it should have
been easy to quash the doubters ...But TPTB probably thought if they could
get over the initial couple of months without the mainstream quirying it
they were home and dry, whatever the relatively few truth seekers may say ...

[jaybee]

Jaybee ~


If he [Duff] is basing it on the 'missile hit' video, that I have proved to be a hoax, then yes, it must be false....

You have done nothing of the sort here. Not at all.

Instead, you’ve done the old “bait and switch” disinfo tactic: set up a second straw man (i.e. the video you posted), knock it down as a “hoax” and hope that somehow the reader will mistakenly infer that the original video under discussion here is false as well. And, oh by the way, so is Gordon Duff.




The video that I posted from 2007 is clearly the same video that is used in Duff's video. Although when they go in for the close up it gets blurred.


This is a screen shot taken from the video in the Gordon Duff article...

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911duffvideo.png


hear is the screen shot I posted from the 2007 video...showing that the point of impact is in the WRONG place.


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911missilepentagon.png


note that there are the same numbers on it...0205...maybe the date of the original? Feb 05?....and there's that little white arrow.


I don't know how much clearer I can make the point that I am making.


Gordon Duff said what he said and used the video to back up his claim...but the video is a hoax and shows the wrong 'impact' position.


this is what he said....."The following video shows a cruise type missile hitting the Pentagon. It was taken from a NORAD satellite at great distance. How do we know? We just do."


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/






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[sdv]

Check out all the evidence and then decide for yourself: a conspiracy or a very incompetent goevernment?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

How the heck did that hijacker manage to fly a plane into the Pentagon?

Did you know that the USA condemns terrorism, fights a war against terrorism (abroad and at home) but harbours terrorists, trains them, funds them ...?

What is a terrorist? Was 9/11 a typical terrorist attack or something else?

[Cidersomerset]

Ok 19 'Terrorists' ...Hijaked 4 planes with Stanley knives /box cutters.....Flew three into buildings and one down a hole....
Brought down three plane proof High rise buildings and destroyed the part of the Pentagon where the financial people
worked thus hiding the trillions of dollars Rumsfedt said was missing the day before.....
All masterminded from a cave in Afghanistan, while all the US warplanes were conducting wargames against a possible hostile
threat from her new friend Russia...
This allowed the TPTB to invade Afghanistan, reopen the opium trade that had been redused underthe taliban and now is
more productive than ever under NATO protection, and secure the Caspian sea oil pipe line..
Thus opening the way for the Neo cons to invade Iraq to steel Stargate Tech from the Bagdad museum.
As they already knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction as the UN weapons inspectors told them..
Also completeing the encirclement of Iran....

Now if any of this was planned by Osama Bin Laden it would make him the most incompetent freedom fighter of
all time because by attacking the great 'Satan' he destroyed the Muslim world he was fighting for.!!!
It does not add up from their point of View as Osama said after the attack he knew
nothing about it....

[Selene]

My sincere apologies, JayBee.

The video you introduced is indeed the same footage; I was mistaken. With your kind permission, I will withdraw my comments.

Many thanks for your patience,

Selene

[sdv]

Yep, Cidersomerset, it just does not add up to the 'official story'.

[Tommy]

A site with some useful information and graphics:
http://www.newsfollowup.com/flight77_24.htm

I am wondering, does anyone here actually believe a plane hit the pentagon (even remote controlled) ?

Cause even when I was 13 in 2001 I asked "where the hell did the plane go?" .. lol

[Tommy]

High res images of immediate aftermath:
http://publicintelligence.net/911-pentagon-damage-immediate-aftermath-high-resolution-photos/

http://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DM-SD-02-03904-1024x671.jpg

No parts, no plane, that is what I see.. Especially judging from the state of the lawn outside which is the most apparent to me. Though on birds-eye pics (seen in the first link among other places) you can see what looks like the effect a rocket booster has on a lawn.. If you know your stuff you can even calculate approx speed of the object using that for analyses. Naturally this is too late now, but it only adds to the unanswered questions in this very open case.

[ponda]

Jaybee ~


If he [Duff] is basing it on the 'missile hit' video, that I have proved to be a hoax, then yes, it must be false....

You have done nothing of the sort here. Not at all.

Instead, you’ve done the old “bait and switch” disinfo tactic: set up a second straw man (i.e. the video you posted), knock it down as a “hoax” and hope that somehow the reader will mistakenly infer that the original video under discussion here is false as well. And, oh by the way, so is Gordon Duff.




The video that I posted from 2007 is clearly the same video that is used in Duff's video. Although when they go in for the close up it gets blurred.


This is a screen shot taken from the video in the Gordon Duff article...

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911duffvideo.png


hear is the screen shot I posted from the 2007 video...showing that the point of impact is in the WRONG place.


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911missilepentagon.png


note that there are the same numbers on it...0205...maybe the date of the original? Feb 05?....and there's that little white arrow.


I don't know how much clearer I can make the point that I am making.


Gordon Duff said what he said and used the video to back up his claim...but the video is a hoax and shows the wrong 'impact' position.


this is what he said....."The following video shows a cruise type missile hitting the Pentagon. It was taken from a NORAD satellite at great distance. How do we know? We just do."


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/






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And here's the "Stock" footage that was used to make the fake missile video.After watching the 'stock' footage it appears that it must of have been filmed several years prior to 911.When compared to the image posted in post 7 one can see that a white overhead walkway that is located on the right hand edge of the Pentagon is not in the 'stock' footage and the nearby trees seem to be smaller.


35mm Stock Footage of Washington DC aerials (if the video won't play then it can be watched from the link below)


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=950747302892463742&ei=X3ybSaenHp-G_AHz0uGnBQ&q=pentagon+stock+footage&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=950747302892463742&ei=X3ybSaenHp-G_AHz0uGnBQ&q=pentagon+stock+footage&hl=en




Aftermath image from Pentagon on 911

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/nine%20eleven/911-pentagon-3days.jpg

[jaybee]

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Excellent find and observations Ponda......many thanks for that!....:thumb:





IMO, Gordon Duff has been caught red-handed trying to manipulate and deceive.

So why would he do that?

I, personally, think it is to keep the 9/11 Inside Job Conspiracy meme going . And to mess with our heads. But on this occasion he has failed and has exposed himself.



@Selene...(re post 39)....apology accepted and appreciated.....thanks.


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[RMorgan]

Thank you ponda!! This is what I call a fiasco!!!

Cheers,

Raf.

[Forevernyt]

Could it be that the video shown (I haven't watched it yet) was inverted? Just asking.

[Atlas]

And here's the "Stock" footage that was used to make the fake missile video.After watching the 'stock' footage it appears that it must of have been filmed several years prior to 911.When compared to the image posted in post 7 one can see that a white overhead walkway that is located on the right hand edge of the Pentagon is not in the 'stock' footage and the nearby trees seem to be smaller.

35mm Stock Footage of Washington DC aerials
Thanks ponda. Here is the same video on Youtube:
2DOgIbCjQBE

[Kindred]

removed post.. irrelevant.

[Curious77]

They're desperate --

Seems they've tried to craft a satellite photo to support what they
had NO PHOTOS of at the Pentagon which is ringed by hundreds of
cameras.

Billions spent on Pentagon (plus they've lost Billions & Trillions which
are unaccountable) and they used the money to buy poor quality cameras?

Pitiful.