I don't know what to say but things just get worse here in China

[Airwooz]

Few days ago a hacker group so called Annoymous attacked several Chinese offcial website, they leaving message by saying we come here to bring your freedom and truth sort of things. After that as a result i cant not access to variety western website including Avalon, Google, Glp and more for a short while.

Few days later Internet go back to normal, So I tried to resume Glp, bu I found my account has been banned. For what i know i never instigated hate or violated any regulation, I have personal suffer enough for the Chinese Goverment paid shill inside the Greatwall internet. So I surfing on many foreign forum to share info and follow up the conspiracy. Now they probably even banned all the chinese account there.

There are maybe many Chinese goverment paid shill ducking in the corner, but why would they doing this to all Chinese account ?! I thought alternate websites are meant to be free people's mind not knocking them off right?

Ok,There are definite some thing going on here in China recently, a coup has been cease before take off, they are arresting political opponent right now. and trying to censor more website. Cause the politacal struggle become more an more intense. For those of you don't know the incident please check:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxBLgJG_XB8

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17668376

http://www.infowars.com/china-cracks-down-after-internet-coup-rumors/

http://geoplotical.blogspot.jp/2012/03/rothschildsoroscia-clan-lost-huge.html


China is more like a NWO society compare to western country, When I listen to Fulford I can't believed what he said regarding the white or black Dragon gang...I think he was probably cheated by NWO agent, they make him believed that China is the future world savior...ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land. Many alternative community have too many illusions and very naive to believe that China is the game changer. TPTB want nothing but maintain power, and let people fall for the ridiculous reason to fight each other. I dont see anyone has wisdom step out from the top of the pyramid fight for the public.

Ok this is just my opinion no mean to offense anybody and pardon my poor English, feel free to ask me any questions, Peace~

:happy::agree:

[ViralSpiral]

Hello Airwooz, and welcome! :)


So glad you got to reach out and share, and here's hoping you get to stay longer.
We may not be able to control what is done to us however, that does not mean we must give up!
Human freedom, courage, dignity will stay and prevail



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/art/synp.jpg

[Carmen]

Welcome Airwooz. Thank you for your first hand perspective.

Man alive Viral! That image of the Chinese man in front of the tank just affects me soo profoundly. It was such an act of courage seen all around the world. We all had so much hope for freedom in China represented by this man's actions.

Wiping tears

Carmen

[Tommy]

Welcome to this great garden of variety :)

It makes me feel good knowing we have a voice from the far east on this board, we surely do not get enough first hand accounts from your very important part of the world!

Looking forward to reading your posts :thumb:

[Maria Stade]

Thank you for your input from inside !
I have been to China my self .. a long time ago now... and much have happened since that.
I am also puzzled about the talk of China taking ower as it is like you say the country have its own problems and need to find ways to function in a better way.
Im sorry to hear that they are trying to close the internet (not anonymous... I think)
The world needs open borders so people can communicate... but NWO will try to close as they allready are .. the flow.

Kind regards Maria

[conk]

China must surely be on the brink of destruction. So many millions have moved from rural areas to cities, looking for work and to cash in on the wave of prosperity. When the global money system collapses, what will become of those millions?

[christian]

When I listen to Fulford I can't believed what he said regarding the white or black Dragon gang...I think he was probably cheated by NWO agent, they make him believed that China is the future world savior...

Fulford made it very clear, that he doesn't confuse the White Dragon society and the Chinese government. They are not the same group.

For TPTW every nation state is just another pawn in their chess game, they don't care whether China, India, the US, Russia or anyone appears to be the world's "leading nation". They move the chess pieces to their ability as it suits their purpose, they want total domination and a totally controlled polulation everywhere. They are failing of course.

[mosquito]

It makes me feel good knowing we have a voice from the far east on this board, we surely do not get enough first hand accounts from your very important part of the world!



Did I really read this correctly ? I've been here for a year now, attempting to give my perspective on China, and for the most part what I say is ignored because what I say just doesn't jive with the "big bad nasty China waiting to gobble up poor little USA" mentality which prevails here. Unbelievable Seeingterra, thanks for the good laugh !!!

Airwooz - I hope you don't mind me asking - how did you manage to post a youtube video ?? I sit behind the great firewall, and also a public school firewall, so cannot access youtube. I'm puzzled. Anyway, it's nice to see you here, welcome !!!! ........

认识你我很高兴啊. 我在四川, 你住在哪儿 ?

[Cilka]

Welcome Airwooz. Thank you for your first hand perspective.

Man alive Viral! That image of the Chinese man in front of the tank just affects me soo profoundly. It was such an act of courage seen all around the world. We all had so much hope for freedom in China represented by this man's actions.

Wiping tears

Carmen

In 1969 in Czechoslovakia there was a student named Jan Palach who set himself on fire in the protest against the government. Unfortunately the kid died for nothing, the communist Russians took over the country, then years later the communist regime collapsed (a well documented planned event), the so-called capitalists took over the country and now we are living under the fascist regime. http://socialistworker.org/2008/08/05/1968-and-prague-spring
People are dying for nothing and it's time to stop doing this that is not changing our lives for the better. The problem with us is that we dont know how to fight fairly, we have not learned to be great warriors with magnificent minds.

[Airwooz]

Thank you for your input from inside !
I have been to China my self .. a long time ago now... and much have happened since that.
I am also puzzled about the talk of China taking ower as it is like you say the country have its own problems and need to find ways to function in a better way.
Im sorry to hear that they are trying to close the internet (not anonymous... I think)
The world needs open borders so people can communicate... but NWO will try to close as they allready are .. the flow.

Kind regards Maria

I am not blaming them(Anonymous) for internet black out, but what they did leading to certain consequence which is quite opposite...

:rolleyes: all the best~

[Airwooz]

When I listen to Fulford I can't believed what he said regarding the white or black Dragon gang...I think he was probably cheated by NWO agent, they make him believed that China is the future world savior...

Fulford made it very clear, that he doesn't confuse the White Dragon society and the Chinese government. They are not the same group.

For TPTW every nation state is just another pawn in their chess game, they don't care whether China, India, the US, Russia or anyone appears to be the world's "leading nation". They move the chess pieces to their ability as it suits their purpose, they want total domination and a totally controlled polulation everywhere. They are failing of course.

I hope you are right on this, I just can't see any solid evidence support his claim from my perspective. But no double those chess player did exist.

all the best

[Airwooz]

It makes me feel good knowing we have a voice from the far east on this board, we surely do not get enough first hand accounts from your very important part of the world!



Did I really read this correctly ? I've been here for a year now, attempting to give my perspective on China, and for the most part what I say is ignored because what I say just doesn't jive with the "big bad nasty China waiting to gobble up poor little USA" mentality which prevails here. Unbelievable Seeingterra, thanks for the good laugh !!!

Airwooz - I hope you don't mind me asking - how did you manage to post a youtube video ?? I sit behind the great firewall, and also a public school firewall, so cannot access youtube. I'm puzzled. Anyway, it's nice to see you here, welcome !!!! ........

认识你我很高兴啊. 我在四川, 你住在哪儿 ?


HOW SHALL I KONW YOU ARE NOT A COMMUNISM PAID SHILL?!!?

just kidding...well actually I am not seeing many Evil China Empire theory here, Avlaon is more open and spirituality compare to other forum

No China is not gonna invade US and western, But chinese goverment did cooprate with elites of the world since Nixson, No matter the old Maoist or the new Chinese Goverment same old things in different form is all about manipulating humanity. Chinese people has poor awareness status almost live like working bee, But there are many propaganda spreading out all over the alternative community telling people China is the new age role model, Let them jumping in to the false hope, this is what realLy bothers me.

You can using a proxy tool to upload videos to YOUTUBE which iam paying 80yuan per year.

我常去四川 但是抱歉我不能告诉你我的地址

ALL THE BEST

[Airwooz]

China must surely be on the brink of destruction. So many millions have moved from rural areas to cities, looking for work and to cash in on the wave of prosperity. When the global money system collapses, what will become of those millions?


Wow maybe they just flush back to country town like the old time, New theories about the great China bubble brust come out every months but I think US will keep helping stable the situation here, they have lots of profits here. include exproting military technology and internet surveillance system and all that. Where do you think those internet black out technical comes from?

anyway we'll see

all the best

[cayman]

It makes me feel good knowing we have a voice from the far east on this board, we surely do not get enough first hand accounts from your very important part of the world!



Did I really read this correctly ? I've been here for a year now, attempting to give my perspective on China, and for the most part what I say is ignored because what I say just doesn't jive with the "big bad nasty China waiting to gobble up poor little USA" mentality which prevails here. Unbelievable Seeingterra, thanks for the good laugh !!!

most people only look at what they want to believe instead to see the big picture. that is why they get played

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Airwooz - I hope you don't mind me asking - how did you manage to post a youtube video ?? I sit behind the great firewall, and also a public school firewall, so cannot access youtube. I'm puzzled. .....[/B][/QUOTE]

VPN or SSH， paid service

[mountain_jim]

I really appreciate you follks posting your views here from within China. Another example of what makes this forum so worthwhile. :)

[yuhui]

"ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land."

If you are thinking in oppressive ideologies, you just get yourself mentally controlled.

[yuhui]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/art/synp.jpg


I want to say something about this photo. I know many people see this phone and then get touched/moved/cried a bit and so on.....
But Tiananmen Incident is much complicated than individual' Human freedom, courage, dignity against evil communist/government and military.
For me it's just Orientalism in media...“Orientalism is in this sense but an alibi for the lack of interest in comprehending the non-Western Other in its own terms, reducing the Other to the site of difference to explain away the need to attend to its opacity and complexity; modernist ideology, which sees history in linear terms as moving from the primitive to the developed, confers similarity on the Other as the past of the self.”

[yuhui]

plz take some effort to understand so that we can recover and make things right. For those who are interested in Tiananmen Incident, this is written by Zhou Duo (main protester hunger striker/广场四君子之一）http://blog.boxun.com/hero/200903/zhouduo/1_1.shtml
I found his weibo inspiring.

[Airwooz]

"ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land."

If you are thinking in oppressive ideologies, you just get yourself mentally controlled.

Sorry mate, I know what you trying to say, but I am just so tired about New Age type of philosophy. When you deal with this 4-dimensional lower vibrate world, you have to go rough and lower your spiritual level, otherwise you won't get things done, some time you may engaging in evil. Ideology surly is a trap, but you have no choice, unless you are out of this material built society by living in a jungle, if you have a better method, then please educate me.

[KiwiElf]

Plant a new "seed"... and allow it to spread ;)

[Billy]

"ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land."

If you are thinking in oppressive ideologies, you just get yourself mentally controlled.

Sorry mate, I know what you trying to say, but I am just so tired about New Age type of philosophy. When you deal with this 4-dimensional lower vibrate world, you have to go rough and lower your spiritual level, otherwise you won't get things done, some time you may engaging in evil. Ideology surly is a trap, but you have no choice, unless you are out of this material built society by living in a jungle, if you have a better method, then please educate me.

I do not think you require education Airwooz, if you live according to your signature all will be well.

peace

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

[yuhui]

"ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land."

If you are thinking in oppressive ideologies, you just get yourself mentally controlled.

Sorry mate, I know what you trying to say, but I am just so tired about New Age type of philosophy. When you deal with this 4-dimensional lower vibrate world, you have to go rough and lower your spiritual level, otherwise you won't get things done, some time you may engaging in evil. Ideology surly is a trap, but you have no choice, unless you are out of this material built society by living in a jungle, if you have a better method, then please educate me.


I am not sure I have a method. But I do hope I can understand you better because I think I have a choice in the way I think (which is ideology).
This is what I find to be enlightening:

"Like Buddha taught, everything is dependant on cause and condition. Dark and golden ages are no exception. They are not predestined, nor are they random or chaotic. Destiny is conditioned, Chief among the causes and conditions is one's own individual self, you can create your destiny. Your choices are your destiny. What and how we are now depends on what and how we have been in the past. What and how we will be in the future depends on what and how we are now. "

By Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=369588269733327&id=158696727489150

[GoodETxSG]

Though my travels and martial arts training I have come to LOVE the people of CHINA. They have overcome so much and kept their spirits that it amazes me. They are absolutely wonderful people who for the most part have very enlightened spirits. I wish them peace and happyness/prosperity...

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Welcome Airwooz. Thank you for your first hand perspective.

Man alive Viral! That image of the Chinese man in front of the tank just affects me soo profoundly. It was such an act of courage seen all around the world. We all had so much hope for freedom in China represented by this man's actions.

Wiping tears

Carmen

Makes this soldier and patriot shed tears... Does anyone know anything about this man and his fate?

[Anchor]

"ordinary Chinese can't do nothing about their own country not to mention plot to take over the world. They got tanks and all those modern killing machine to ruled this land."

If you are thinking in oppressive ideologies, you just get yourself mentally controlled.

Sorry mate, I know what you trying to say, but I am just so tired about New Age type of philosophy. When you deal with this 4-dimensional lower vibrate world, you have to go rough and lower your spiritual level, otherwise you won't get things done, some time you may engaging in evil. Ideology surly is a trap, but you have no choice, unless you are out of this material built society by living in a jungle, if you have a better method, then please educate me.


This is a profound exchange.

Both are correct.

On the one hand one must have a vision. To form that vision one must spend some time working with "ideology", "higher thought", even "new age thinking" (after careful discernment of the traps laid therein).

On the other hand, these visions do not come about in a miraculous flash - real work in the " this 4-dimensional lower vibrate world" needs to get done in order to bring that about.

I think you are both right.

[mosquito]

This is a profound exchange.

Both are correct.

......

Yes John and, as usual you hit upon a fundamental truth !

"either/or" is not necessarily a solution to our problems, "both/and" is also an option, and is often the more liberating one.

As a Westerner living in China, I am constantly faced with the contradictions inherent in both oriental and Western culture, and have spent 4 years here having my preconceptions of "right & wrong" slowly dismantled. Wherever our species is heading, (and right now I'm not very hopeful) global adoption of Western "values" is NOT the answer, neither is transforming the entire world into a copy of modern China.

We, as a human whole, need to embrace our differences, relish them, as they make us richer. We need to recognize that everyone's culture is unique and, and accept that there are people whose values are different to our own.

Maybe our evolution requires us to say "yes" to Western culture and "yes" to oriental culture.

[yuhui]

Does anyone know anything about this man and his fate?

"The Tank Man" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man


There are several controversial arguments about the identity of this men, but I found none of them persuasive......They say what they believed, what they stand and there is no solid proof.
I hope he lives though, and one day he can tell his story.