Reptilian researchers or followers of the info: Please help

[peace]

please answer in order.

1. Is there any physical evidence of these beings, here, now on earth? I've seen the credo necklace and old statues of lizard heads and such that Icke has touted as evidence of our 'overlords'. I'm talking here and now.

2. Where are they? I've heard/read underground and the shape shifting theories.

3. What are the different types/are they all considered shape shifters?

4. Do they interact with Joe Average, say, one-on-one, everyday. and I mean physically interact? i understand the, 'well, they are controlling the world, so yes." but in my normal day, am I crossing paths with these beings?

5. Who are the other leading thinkers on this subject, other than Icke?

6. What's the end goal of a race giant, psychic, human eating, blood drinking reptiles that want to run earth? from what i've come across it seems the thinking is they are already?

7. Is "light and love" and "raising the vibration" of the planet a good enough reaction?

I just can't get my head around it. Seems like a tool for fear. I also do not mean disrespect as I know this is a passionate subject for some here.

[Forevernyt]

Try here for a start.

http://www.reptoids.com/

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Good starting point there Nyt.

Have you done much of your own research peace? Has it led you anywhere interesting to answer your questions, or you just throwing it out there?

PVM

[observer]

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Good questions, peace.

For the individual just starting-out on the journey to understanding the reptilian presence, I would highly recommend David Icke's book, "The Biggest Secret". It contains everything you ever wanted to know about the reptilian presence.

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret.htm#contents

You can read the book in its entirety at this link, however, I would strongly recommend getting your hands on a hard copy. This will support David's work.

[9eagle9]

One's ability to see them or I suppose interact with them has to do with one's vibrational level. If one has one too low one won't notice them, it it happens to be higher than them you won't notice them either.

One is who more clairvoyant would see them, other sensitive people would sense them in some other fashion.

Lots have been observed as projections-holographic perhaps. Not having an actual physical form.

On occasion or two I've seen them attached to people in an energetic sense, and the people they were attached to thought they were spirit guides and angels.

There are people who never 'seem' to shift or seem to have anything overtly amiss about them but their energy is very reptilian , those would be noticed more. This may have something to do with the reptilian brain as well, one is sensing something about a person that is not entirely connected in the way they should be. A projection of the reptilian mind one might call it.

My two cents. I'd expand on it a little more but there's people who have a great deal of interest and research invested in the topic than I do. Mines only observational.While I don't deny the sightings or existence of them beyond having observed a bit of how they interact with people, I'm not very interested in them. More on a energetic level than a physical one.

[thunder24]

STudy the cultures of native americans, old briton, and the orient...
surely u will find more information on the topic....

King Anthony spoke about the shapeshifting being a projection, not an actual shift...Avalon has discussed it before...dig through the halls

peace

[DNA]

I'm giving two sources of information here,,,one from the so-called Lacerta interview. Folks of course claim it's a hoax, but I have found it has pinged with a lot of other information out there. The other source of information coming from a woman who was hypnotically regressed and remembered being raped in the superstition mountains of az by a reptilian. The reason I'm giving these two accounts is because of how they ping with one another.

Both talk of emblems the reptillians wear on their clothing and on banners and craft and such. The similarities are there. I suggest reading both accounts in their entirety and not just the snippets I have here.




THE LACERTA INTERVIEW WITH A FEMALE REPTILIAN (http://www.whale.to/b/lacerta.html)

" Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?

Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us). This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom—you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I've described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definetely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible

Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you've mentioned—do they mean the Pleiades?

Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct. "

" Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?

Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that). When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometres north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world—more are far more north and east).
As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world (See more information on these tunnels in the "Branton Files"..
If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definetely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a for you strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can."

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REPTILIAN RAPE IN THE SUPERSTITION MOUNTAINS (http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e111600b.shtml)

" She discovered she was in an oval room about fifteen feet across. The low ceiling was domes with deep ribs of a soft pale purple. From those arched robs a while light shone. The light was bright, but not harsh. On her left, lights of amber and blue flashed on the wall. "


" Two aliens wore either a grey scarf or a wide ribbon draped over their shoulder. Under the soft looking ribbons they wore a white jump suit with insignia that showed a curved dragon with a seven point star in the middle of it. The other 'reptile-men' wore black uniforms with the same insignia. The tall WHITE SKINNED lizard man [note: these "White Dracos" have also been seen in the Dulce - Los Alamos - Kirtland AFB mega-base] wore a burnt orange jump suit with three insignia on the left side. There was a black inverted triangle, the round dragon with star, and an oval with moving stars on it. She felt fascinated by that one. It was like watching a 3d movie in miniature. On the right side of his uniform were three black bars on a silver disk. On the left cuff of his sleeve he wore a row of inverted triangles with three lines cutting through it. "

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Also worth mentioning from the Lacerta interview is when asked about the types of flying craft the terran (earth) reptilians fly Lacerta stated that they flew the cigar shaped cylindrical crafts.

On a personal note,,,,I interviewed three people individually who attended an out door "rave" party in the superstitions back in the fall of 1996. All three people reported the same incident, and one was pretty shook up about it.
They stated that a large cylindrical cigar shaped craft hovered extremely close to the group of young dancing people, and that it was trying to obscure itself in a large dust cloud that was the result of six thousand kids dancing in the desert.

On another personal note, I have a friend who took a picture in the superstitions of a cigar shaped flying craft, but, she never saw the craft when she took the picture it just happend to be in the back ground.

It is also worth noting that the superstitions are reknowned for driving miners insane.
Seasoned and grizzled outdoorsman from the nineteenth and early twentieth century talk about a strange forboding and a feeling of impending doom if they didn't leave the place.

Many miners who ignored this warning, were found quite literally headless.
This same thing happened quite often in the Nahilli Valley of Canada.
It seems that if humans don't get the message in terms of leaving when spooked, they are made an example of in hopes that other prospecting miners will get the message.
Miners with their heads cut off would certainly send a message.

The superstitions get their name from the native americans having so many legends about them and being convinced that the gods of thunder lived on those mountains.
Unexplained sudden loud thunder would always be heard in the superstitions, so much so that the indians refered to the gods who lived there as thunder gods.
It was only later that the sound, which still occasionally occurs was found to synonomous to a sonic boom.
I wonder what has been making those sonic booms for hundreds if not thousands of years?

[observer]

Phil Schneider speaks of battling "large grey", and "reptilian" aliens in Dulce, NM in 1979 while involved with a black-ops underground construction project:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9042499324182317197&hl=en#docid=-5536610092079825105
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9042499324182317197&hl=en#docid=-5536610092079825105
Listen at around 5 min, 30 sec.

You would be doing yourself a favor if you sat and listened to several evenings of Phil Schneider videos. He was one of the first whistle blowers to step forward back in the 90s.

Here's a real good video about underground bases that mentions Reptilians several times, and based on Phil Schneider's story:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=71&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=71&feature=plpp_video

Alex Collier speaks of the Reptilian aliens. Alex is an actual contactee who speaks of all the species of aliens that interface with the planet, including the reptilians. Throughout this video, produced in 1994, Alex uses the term Alpha Draconians from Orion to describe the Reptilian presence:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734&ei=FsTNSoSZBs3glQeuhsHWBg&q=alex+collier&hl=en#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734&ei=FsTNSoSZBs3glQeuhsHWBg&q=alex+collier&hl=en#

You would be wise to spend a few evenings listening to multiple Alex Collier videos.

John Lear speaks of the reptilian aliens. John is the son of the famous inventor that created the Lear Jet. John spent his life working as a contractor in the intelligence community. He speaks of the reptilian aliens somewhere within this four part Camelot interview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0
Follow the other four parts of this interview in YouTube.

You must keep in mind semantics are involved in this story. Throughout the history of humanity there have been all sorts of depictions of reptilian deities represented in every creation mythology of indigenous peoples around the earth.

The Anunnaki of the Sumerian's were reptilian. Read some Steichen and you will get an understanding of how these entities have been manipulating the human species since the dawn of civilization.

Here's a website that will give you many hours of research into the reptilian phenomenon:
http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/en/reptilians.htm

[Cilka]

please answer in order.

1. Is there any physical evidence of these beings, here, now on earth? I've seen the credo necklace and old statues of lizard heads and such that Icke has touted as evidence of our 'overlords'. I'm talking here and now.

2. Where are they? I've heard/read underground and the shape shifting theories.

3. What are the different types/are they all considered shape shifters?

4. Do they interact with Joe Average, say, one-on-one, everyday. and I mean physically interact? i understand the, 'well, they are controlling the world, so yes." but in my normal day, am I crossing paths with these beings?

5. Who are the other leading thinkers on this subject, other than Icke?

6. What's the end goal of a race giant, psychic, human eating, blood drinking reptiles that want to run earth? from what i've come across it seems the thinking is they are already?

7. Is "light and love" and "raising the vibration" of the planet a good enough reaction?

I just can't get my head around it. Seems like a tool for fear. I also do not mean disrespect as I know this is a passionate subject for some here.

I believe that these beings are real, did at some point interact with the human species just as described by David Icke (by the way I love this guy), however because they were doing us more harm than good they have been kicked out of our solar system. So, these critters are gone for now, until they find a way back here, however we are still not out of the woods, so to speak, because there is another race of ET's that is far more dangerous to us than the reptilians or grays combined. These Nordic type has influenced the governments throughout the world, and are still active here and hoping that the human species will finally wipe itself out. So far the human species has been doing a great job at that. Just look around all the killings that humans are still doing today. Humans love to kill each other.

This is my research on this topic, I am not here to convince anyone, and I would encourage everyone to do their own research before judging what I just wrote. Good luck.

[heyokah]

This is John Lash's (and the gnostic) view on the Reptilian agenda.


http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/ReptilianAgenda.php

As 'observer' is pointing out, 'semantics are involved in this story'.... reptilians / archons....

[KiwiElf]

The most comprehensive written material I've see on Reptilians - and Greys for that matter - is in Matrix II by Valdemar Valerian (aka John Grace)

[observer]

Here's one for you, peace.

This has been posted on the forum in the past. I think it gives a very good overview of how we all interpret the meaning of words differently (semantics) in relation to this reptilian phenomenon:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0mCMfC8UmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0mCMfC8UmI