Time travel

[Swanny]

I've been thinking about time travel for many years and the way I see it is this.

In order to move either backwards or forwards in time everything must have already happened.
If you travel back in time you are from the future and are travelling into a past that has already happened,
if you travel forward in time you are from the past and you are travelling into a future that must have already happened.

This means everything past or present has already happened therefore it cannot be changed.

So time travel maybe possible but changing time is not..
This is my opinion can anyone see why it might be wrong??

The grandfather thing doesn't work :tongue1:

[Gita]

The multiuniverse theory makes this possible. What happens is that if you go back in time, then there’s already one of you in that time line and if you change anything then another timeline is created and therefore a new future.. And because of this the grandfather paradigm does not work. This is the simplest I could put it. :nerd::wacko2:

[K626]

I've been thinking about time travel for many years and the way I see it is this.

In order to move either backwards or forwards in time everything must have already happened.
If you travel back in time you are from the future and are travelling into a past that has already happened,
if you travel forward in time you are from the past and you are travelling into a future that must have already happened.

This means everything past or present has already happened therefore it cannot be changed.

So time travel maybe possible but changing time is not..
This is my opinion can anyone see why it might be wrong??

The grandfather thing doesn't work :tongue1:

Does it even really exist? :noidea:

[Gita]

Does it even really exist? :noidea:

There’s project looking glass and Philadelphia project amongst others! Quantum physics also makes this possible.

Does it exists? Who knows for sure but great fun researching it. Makes the mind go beyond limits.:tinfoil3:

[K626]

There’s project looking glass and Philadelphia project amongst others! Quantum physics also makes this possible.

Does it exists? Who knows for sure but great fun researching it. Makes the mind go beyond limits.:tinfoil3:

If you ask nicely I can tell you how it works.:p

[john.d]

this is a good read about the Phoenix and philadelphia Project :

http://www.whale.to/b/orion.html

John

[annemirri]

In order to move either backwards or forwards in time everything must have already happened.

This means everything past or present has already happened therefore it cannot be changed.


Everything that is happens simultaneously.

This moment is all that is.

Let's take a simple example, I assume that you are a grown, adult man or woman.

When you look back at your early childhood, remember some emotionally important events,
you can relive it, be there again,
your brain and your nerves feed your body so that you feel all the same emotions and feelings,
but something has changed, you have changed, your perception has changed,
so the memory of that childhood event will slightly change.

Time is like water with a barrier, you can make the water to move,
but the barrier stays intact .
The barrier is like a set event that cannot be altered.

a.

[xbusymom]

the Back To The Future triliogy was the most fun - and mind bending - exercise in time loop/timeline possibilities...

then theres also quantum leap, all of the timeline cross-overs in many of the Star Trek series and movies, Time Rider, Time After Time... I could go on (this is one of my favorite movie genres')

I believe that there is enough MOVIE CLUES (according to the sick disclosure rituals of TPTB) to warrant that the truth of time travel does exist... it is just hard to sniff the real truth when they twist up facts they put in the movies for our viewing...

[K626]

I've been thinking about time travel for many years and the way I see it is this.

In order to move either backwards or forwards in time everything must have already happened.
If you travel back in time you are from the future and are travelling into a past that has already happened,
if you travel forward in time you are from the past and you are travelling into a future that must have already happened.

This means everything past or present has already happened therefore it cannot be changed.

So time travel maybe possible but changing time is not..
This is my opinion can anyone see why it might be wrong??

The grandfather thing doesn't work :tongue1:

Or nothing has happened...:playball:

[Gita]

If you ask nicely I can tell you how it works. :p

Ok, I'll bite. Pretty please with a cherry on top - please do tell?:ear:

(is that nice enough K?):p

[K626]

Ok, I'll bite. Pretty please with a cherry on top - please do tell?:ear:

(is that nice enough K?):p

Is he throwing the ball or is he catching it? :playball:

[xbusymom]

So time travel maybe possible but changing time is not..
This is my opinion can anyone see why it might be wrong??



(rubbing hands) ok - what is your definition of 'wrong'?
do you mean that
*it is impossible to change situations in the current timeline? or
*you cant alter the timeline? or
*it would be wrong to try to change the actions in a certain timeline? or
*fate is certain and whatever you do when you time travel has already been accounted for/done? or
*you cant restructure time because time only exists in our minds and everything is done in the eternal NOW? or

what?

[Gita]

Is he throwing the ball or is he catching it? :playball:

oh goodie - a puzzle! He has to throw it first in order to catch it. or is it that he's doing both at the same time??

Puzzle for you - Tell me this - is his head hitting the wall or the wall hitting his head??:frusty: :laugh:

[K626]

The mind can only handle one timeline at a time (one center) the light body and your phsical body can handle any amount. Our understanding of time is our minds need to be anchored.

[xbusymom]

oh goodie - a puzzle! He has to throw it first in order to catch it. or is it that he's doing both at the same time??

Puzzle for you - Tell me this - is his head hitting the wall or the wall hitting his head??:frusty: :laugh:

hmmm... I would say that anything stationary is the hitee and the moving object is the hiter... so his head is hitting the wall...

and for the catching/throwing the ball - it is both- in cycles

[K626]

oh goodie - a puzzle! He has to throw it first in order to catch it. or is it that he's doing both at the same time??

Puzzle for you - Tell me this - is his head hitting the wall or the wall hitting his head??:frusty: :laugh:

Good Gita...He IS doing both. For to throw the ball he already imagines catching it...

Ok, think about this..

If you travel away from the earth at near the speed of light and come back from the nearest star, time on earth has passed expotentially...You might have been away a couple of years, but time on the planet has passed many decades (or more)...How are these two actions linked? The earth doesn't know what you're upto and time certainly doesn't....?

[K626]

hmmm... I would say that anything stationary is the hitee and the moving object is the hiter... so his head is hitting the wall...

and for the catching/throwing the ball - it is both- in cycles

So in general terms we can say time is action or the passing of things...The risng and setting of the sun and the seasons for instance...It's how we denote time. But what if the natural cycles were themselves in a loop...Has time passed?

[Fredkc]

Um....

I take it we've already decided that time actually exists, beyond the duality of perception. Right?

Did I miss a memo ?

Fred

[xbusymom]

But what if the natural cycles were themselves in a loop...?

you lost me on that one...

[xbusymom]

Um....

I take it we've already decided that time actually exists, . Right?



nope...that is ONE of the accepted premises... for the sake of the debate... muh-hahaha

[Gita]

Ok, think about this..

If you travel away from the earth at near the speed of light and come back from the nearest star, time on earth has passed expotentially...You might have been away a couple of years, but time on the planet has passed many decades (or more)...How are these two actions linked? The earth doesn't know what you're upto and time certainly doesn't....?

I’m guessing if you do that, then you will have come back not aged at all whilst your other self left behind would have aged quite a lot. With that in mind, I’ll put my consciousness in the one that speeded away. :car: Not to mention that time is also relative.

BTW, you didn’t answer my puzzle?:twitch:

ps. my head hurts!

[K626]

But without perception there is no time...Right? For instance for a universe of billions of years and the sub-micro moment of the big bang there is no differeance, only in OUR perception (standpoint)...Our moment...

[Gita]

But without perception there is no time...Right? For instance for a universe of billions of years and the sub-micro moment of the big bang there is no differeance, only in OUR perception (standpoint)...Our moment...

Ok, but if I had someone else with me in the passenger seat. Then there’ll be two perceptions. Which perception dictates??

[K626]

I’m guessing if you do that, then you will have come back not aged at all whilst your other self left behind would have aged quite a lot. With that in mind, I’ll put my consciousness in the one that speeded away. :car: Not to mention that time is also relative.

BTW, you didn’t answer my puzzle?

ps. my head hurts!

But what if you did your bit of near light space travel in total secret...Zip you're gone and zip you're back...? As you say only your consciousness would be aware of that...What if you're consciousness is outside of time...Which it is, we are all vaguely aware of that. HOw does the physical universe know that you did it? What is the link so that the two bits of time don't match? How can they not match..? What exactly within the notion of time as an entity is keeping track of all this stuff?? It seems ridiculous no?

[ArtyCarl]

There is still so much we do not understand, and new and exciting discoveries in Physics are made every year. What seems impossible now might seem commonplace in 10 years or less.

[K626]

Ok, but if I had someone else with me in the passenger seat. Then there’ll be two perceptions. Which perception dictates??

That's cheating!! :ballchain:

[annemirri]

If you ask nicely I can tell you how it works.:p

K626,
be a little bit more serious.

What do you actually know about timetravel ?

You can read all sort of books, webpages, go to the lectures...
or talk, write, about it on forums like this one
(which seems to have turned to be K626's ball throwing field), but still,

have you experienced timetravel, moving in time yourself ?
in your physical body or in your light body ?

I am just curious.
a.

[Fredkc]

Ok, but if I had someone else with me in the passenger seat. Then there’ll be two perceptions. Which perception dictates??
Probably doesn't change anything, because now you have an "agreement". ;)

[xbusymom]

Not to mention that time is also relative.



(i don't know exactly how I came up with this but)... time is relative to what... size of object?... speed of molecules?... both?

I mean- how is it that the life span of a small bug is only a short time? and the life span of an elephant is many more years than humans? Does the size of the living creature have anything to do with perception of time?

[K626]

Probably doesn't change anything, because now you have an "agreement". ;)

Aha!! So phenomena only exist if we agree they do...:yo:

I think that has to be the first clear positon on a discussion of time as a phenomena...

[Majorion]

For instance for a universe of billions of years and the sub-micro moment of the big bang there is no differeance, only in OUR perception (standpoint)...Our moment...
The Big Bang "theory" is pretty dodgy I have to say, its become accepted as Gospel just because most scientists seem to have reached a consensus. I think that this Universe is either much much older than a few billions years, or, there never were a "beginning" as we understand it and it has always been in existence. I also happen to believe there are infinite Universes, infinite parallel worlds; if you will, which brings into question whether there are infinite "you's".

[Gita]

But what if you did your bit of near light space travel in total secret...Zip you're gone and zip you're back...? As you say only your consciousness would be aware of that...What if you're consciousness is outside of time...Which it is, we are all vaguely aware of that. HOw does the physical universe know that you did it? What is the link so that the two bits of time don't match? How can they not match..? What exactly within the notion of time as an entity is keeping track of all this stuff?? It seems ridiculous no?

My head really hurts now.:frusty::mmph:


That's cheating!!

What about the kids in the back seat not forgetting the cats, dog and the pony I keep in my back yard. I must also have the pot plant that I’ve lovingly been growing... All these consciousness!! The possibilities are endless, no?:dizzy:

[K626]

K626,
be a little bit more serious.

What do you actually know about timetravel ?

You can read all sort of books, webpages, go to the lectures...
or talk, write, about it on forums like this one
(which seems to have turned to be K626's ball throwing field), but still,

have you experienced timetravel, moving in time yourself ?
in your physical body or in your light body ?

I am just curious.
a.

It must be clear that we are all time travellers for to exist now means to xist always - in the future and in the past.

[Gita]

The Big Bang "theory" is pretty dodgy I have to say, its become accepted as Gospel just because most scientists seem to have reached a consensus. I think that this Universe is either much much older than a few billions years, or, there never were a "beginning" as we understand it and it has always been in existence. I also happen to believe there are infinite Universes, infinite parallel worlds; if you will, which brings into question whether there are infinite "you's".

Totally agree.:thumb:

[xbusymom]

.What if you're consciousness is outside of time...Which it is, we are all vaguely aware of that.

so if we are an entity that exists outside of time... then we can choose to travel anywhere/anywhen and then choose to re-enter the timeline at any given place-marker for experiencing 'time' again... right?

[Fredkc]

(i don't know exactly how I came up with this but)... time is relative to what... size of object?... speed of molecules?... both?
I mean- how is it that the life span of a small bug is only a short time? and the life span of an elephant is many more years than humans? Does the size of the living creature have anything to do with perception of time?
Time is changeable. this was proven quite a while ago. Gravity affects time, for one. This one was proven by bouncing signals to, and from Mercury as it just rounded the sun.

As to it being relative... quote from the movie Deep Blue Sea:
"Put your hand on a hot stove, a second can seem like an hour.
Put your hand on a hot woman, an hour can seem like a second." ;)

Now, the whole relationship between, duality, time, and the ego, was explained really well, in a book thats still on my coffee table. but rhather than do it wrong, I am going to look it up later, so I get it right. Till then... my turn to cook tonight, so...

[whiterose]

My head really hurts now.:frusty::mmph:

I was just thinking the same thing! :dizzy: :confused:

[K626]

My head really hurts now.:frusty::mmph:



What about the kids in the back seat not forgetting the cats, dog and the pony I keep in my back yard. I must also have the pot plant that I’ve lovingly been growing... All these consciousness!! The possibilities are endless, no?:dizzy:

That's right and what or who or it is keeping track of all that ****??

Is inventing something thinking ahead or remembering?

[K626]

I was just thinking the same thing! :dizzy: :confused:

You need more sugar.

[xbusymom]

The Big Bang "theory" is pretty dodgy I have to say, its become accepted as Gospel just because most scientists seem to have reached a consensus. I think that this Universe is either much much older than a few billions years, or, there never were a "beginning" as we understand it and it has always been in existence. I also happen to believe there are infinite Universes, infinite parallel worlds; if you will, which brings into question whether there are infinite "you's".

I think it is more likely (with all the awakened info being pulled into the picture) that the scientists were instructed to reach THAT consensus... it may just BE the truth that time always existed... because the universe always existed (in the cycle/re-cycle of life) and that if OUR perception of earth-time is just a small single thread of the never-ending cycles...

yep- I can see where you are going with this...

[K626]

BBang is only a need for a beginning.

[Gita]

Seriously guys, I don’t believe time exists as such. It’s only a concept to serve its purpose in the way we perceive things with our limited minds. All things are said to happen at the same time at all levels and all dimensions. If our limited minds were aware of this then we would go even more insane than we already are.

With that I shall bid you all goodnight. This thread be interesting when I get back to it tomorrow – oops – there’s that time thing again!

[K626]

I think it is more likely (with all the awakened info being pulled into the picture) that the scientists were instructed to reach THAT consensus... it may just BE the truth that time always existed... because the universe always existed (in the cycle/re-cycle of life) and that if OUR perception of earth-time is just a small single thread of the never-ending cycles...

yep- I can see where you are going with this...

Time isn't linear that's for sure.

[K626]

Seriously guys, I don’t believe time exists as such. It’s only a concept to serve its purpose in the way we perceive things with our limited minds. All things are said to happen at the same time at all levels and all dimensions. If our limited minds were aware of this then we would go even more insane than we already are.

With that I shall bid you all goodnight. This thread be interesting when I get back to it tomorrow – oops – there’s that time thing again!

Agree it's ony a concept, but it is one of those rare concepts that carries a bit of radiation.

[annemirri]

It must be clear that we are all time travellers for to exist now means to xist always - in the future and in the past.

Fine,
but let's be more concrete.

You are you "K626" (let it be our secret that I know that you exist as a real physical person.)
and
we see you here in this three (3) dimensional world,

NOW in this moment,

and we all agree that we all see, feel, sense and understand with our minds
this same special moment in excatly same way,

then something happens, you are not here,

you are gone,

to another time, timeline, reality, existence, dimension, frequency,

and then you are back here in this same moment with us seeing and sensing, understanding as we do,

the only difference in you is that you are the only one who "knows" that you have been away,

Has something like that happend to you ?

a.

[xbusymom]

It’s only a concept to serve its purpose in the way we perceive things with our limited minds.

maybe we devised a way to imerse ourselves into a belief of separation-existance in order to better focus on a particular idea / or experience...

ergo... not insane... just contained-focused...

[K626]

Fine,
but let's be more concrete.

You are you "K626" (let it be our secret that I know that you exist as a real physical person.)
and
we see you here in this three (3) dimensional world,

NOW in this moment,

and we all agree that we all see, feel, sense and understand with our minds
this same special moment in excatly same way,

then something happens, you are not here,

you are gone,

to another time, timeline, reality, existence, dimension, frequency,

and then you are back here in this same moment with us seeing and sensing, understanding as we do,

the only difference in you is that you are the only one who "knows" that you have been away,

Has something like that happend to you ?

a.

I am not here, only my signature is...It is the same for all of us. Every single one of us. And we were here before the universe.

[K626]

maybe we devised a way to imerse ourselves into a belief of separation-existance in order to better focus on a particular idea / or experience...

ergo... not insane... just contained-focused...

I like Gita she is clever.

[annemirri]

I am not here, only my signature is...It is the same for all of us. Every single one of us. And we were here before the universe.

Nonsense !
Whom you try to fool with that ? Not me.

You obviously haven't experienced timetravel yourself, and you cannot take that someone has,
the least me.:dance:

a.

[xbusymom]

Time isn't linear that's for sure.

and it isn't static either... so how does memory fit into all of this... because everyone remembers a different version of the same incident... and even the passing of time (or suggestion from others) can alter the memory of the original incident...

the only thing I can come up with is... perception???

which takes us right back to the perception of time... cause as our mind gathers more info... we SEE/understand things about the same incident/time-referencdifferently...

so is it all really about perception???

[Majorion]

I think it is more likely (with all the awakened info being pulled into the picture) that the scientists were instructed to reach THAT consensus
Of course its all instructed, but why stop at science, you also have religion, finance, education, media, television, hollywood, video games, and a system of Government -- so many ways to manipulate/control people, and all this (combined) works very efficiently to suppress the truth.

[annemirri]

Of course its all instructed, but why stop at science, you also have religion, finance, education, media, television, hollywood, video games, and a system of Government -- so many ways to manipulate/control people, and all this (combined) works very efficiently to suppress the truth.

Majorion, you are wise,

I was lucky as I went to school in a country where we were encouraged to find our own truths
by asking questions, learn from many different sources,
see things in many angles,

but, still, there were the common accepted truths to be learned and taught.

I could not understand physics (though I was considered to be "in top 5%"at school ),
it just did not make any sense to be, so I chose to study only the very basics, and answer the questions by heart, copying what I had read from schoolbooks,

as I had experienced even the TIME differently,

and if I did know much about physics
I would never have accepted my own alien encounters as reality.

Our physics is just starting to see the light.

a.:dance:

[giovonni]

Wonderful stuff here~ :yu: you all are a clever bunch :grouphug:

[Swanny]

Wow wasn't expecting such a big response :)


Good Gita...He IS doing both. For to throw the ball he already imagines catching it...

Ok, think about this..

If you travel away from the earth at near the speed of light and come back from the nearest star, time on earth has passed expotentially...You might have been away a couple of years, but time on the planet has passed many decades (or more)...How are these two actions linked? The earth doesn't know what you're upto and time certainly doesn't....?

But in this reality that has to have already happened.
So it doesn't matter if you leave the planet for a day or 100 years time has already happened :)

[Gita]

It must be clear that we are all time travellers for to exist now means to xist always - in the future and in the past.
Quite right, but lets not forget the NOW for that is where our focus is and therefore in our perception that’s where we exist. Not to mention now is all there is!!

I wonder whether we actually do travel in time or time comes to us once we put our attention on it! Is there a difference?!:bump2:



so if we are an entity that exists outside of time... then we can choose to travel anywhere/anywhen and then choose to re-enter the timeline at any given place-marker for experiencing 'time' again... right?
That is a possibility – if only our consciousness could break free of this 3D prison. But I think being aware of the concept and the possibility then the bars of limitation may slowly begin to melt away. Ah, one can only dream – yet that’s a start in itself.:clock:




Time is changeable. this was proven quite a while ago. Gravity affects time, for one. This one was proven by bouncing signals to, and from Mercury as it just rounded the sun.
As to it being relative... quote from the movie Deep Blue Sea:
"Put your hand on a hot stove, a second can seem like an hour.
Put your hand on a hot woman, an hour can seem like a second."

Exactly. But also other factors are involved i.e perception also affects time as shown in your example – nice example by the way.:thumb:

[Gita]

That's right and what or who or it is keeping track of all that ****??

Is inventing something thinking ahead or remembering?

The collective consciousness and collective perception could lead to a collective creation to that instance of reality – maybe? But what happens if there’s no agreement? Would this lead to chaos which in turn would arrange itself into something bigger outside of the consciousness in order to bring in some kind of order?!


Time isn't linear that's for sure.

True. If everything is happening at the same time then time cannot be linear. I sometimes see time as spiral that can loop back in on itself. An easier way to understand it is see time as a tree with leaves and branches where every leaf and every branch is different event. Events do not happen in sequences in the way we believe it does as everything is happening all at the same time. The only way of seeing an event is to put our attention on it.

I’ve regressed people into their past lives where their immediate previous past life would be in the 15th century whilst three past lives before that would be in the 19th century. Mind boggling stuff.



Agree it's ony a concept, but it is one of those rare concepts that carries a bit of radiation.

Sure – time has been engrained into the human consciousness since the beginning of time!! With so many people over eons of time/space giving life to the concept of time would manifest it in a way as to give it life – a kind of an artificial life that has the capabilities of affecting our perceptions and limiting our consciousness – but keeping us sane at the same time!

[Swanny]

(i don't know exactly how I came up with this but)... time is relative to what... size of object?... speed of molecules?... both?

I mean- how is it that the life span of a small bug is only a short time? and the life span of an elephant is many more years than humans? Does the size of the living creature have anything to do with perception of time?

Perception of time effects everything, standing at a bus stop in the pouring rain waiting for a bus that's a minute late seems forever.
I wonder about those stupid flies that only live a few days, you see them sat on the wall and a day later they are still there haven't moved an inch. What a waste of time :clock:

[Gita]

maybe we devised a way to imerse ourselves into a belief of separation-existance in order to better focus on a particular idea / or experience...

ergo... not insane... just contained-focused...

I agree but I keep remembering that there are so many other factors involved and one in my mind is to stop us going insane as well. As strong as our minds are, it can also be fragile due to lack of knowledge and rigid belief system which can send a person insane if something contradictory shows up. Don’t you just love the dichotomies of life?


I am not here, only my signature is...It is the same for all of us. Every single one of us. And we were here before the universe.

Totally agree. We are all energy signatures but going back to our focused attention, then this signature in the present now seems to me to be more dominant which makes us experience as if we are only here!


Nonsense !
Whom you try to fool with that ? Not me.

You obviously haven't experienced timetravel yourself, and you cannot take that someone has,
the least me.

No one could possibly know any of this time travel stuff for sure. People here are just giving opinions based on their own experiences and their own thinking. I know there are people here who regularly astral travel which also includes time travel. Who are we to say otherwise just because we have not experienced it ourselves? It’s all good in my book. :rockon:

[Gita]

and it isn't static either... so how does memory fit into all of this... because everyone remembers a different version of the same incident... and even the passing of time (or suggestion from others) can alter the memory of the original incident...

the only thing I can come up with is... perception???

which takes us right back to the perception of time... cause as our mind gathers more info... we SEE/understand things about the same incident/time-referencdifferently...

so is it all really about perception???
Memory is to do with our brains. Our mind is different to our brains. My view is that the brain is a biological matter that is encased in our skulls which help to maintain the body. Our minds however is inside every single cells of our body. People don’t just remember a different version of the same incident they actually see the same incident differently in real time. This all depends on where their attention is whilst the events are happening and what their expectation is about the incident. Not to mention what mood they are in. This would affect their memory.

Also lets not forget the observer who can change the particle into waves and vice versa scenario just through the act of observing – their expectation also comes into play whilst utilising their belief system. Pretty amazing IMO.


And my head still hurts!:frusty:

[Swanny]

so if we are an entity that exists outside of time... then we can choose to travel anywhere/anywhen and then choose to re-enter the timeline at any given place-marker for experiencing 'time' again... right?

Yea you can pop in and out anywhere you please.
Imagine it like a book, you can open and read the book anywhere you like.
:cool:

[Swanny]

Time is changeable. this was proven quite a while ago. Gravity affects time, for one. This one was proven by bouncing signals to, and from Mercury as it just rounded the sun.



But if time had already happened then so had the experiment so it didn't prove anything :p

[Gita]

But in this reality that has to have already happened.
So it doesn't matter if you leave the planet for a day or 100 years time has already happened

Yes, it has already happened but there are many versions of the outcome so which version of the outcome you get to experience depends on the choice you make at that time.

Good morning btw.

[Swanny]

Yes, it has already happened but there are many versions of the outcome so which version of the outcome you get to experience depends on the choice you make at that time.

Good morning btw.

But that's like reading a different book
Morning :)

[Gita]

But that's like reading a different book
Morning

Exactly – if you choose to put down the book that you’re reading and pick up another then the whole outcome changes whether it being so slightly that you do not even notice or quiet a lot. It all depends on your choices, actions, perceptions, beliefs, expectations, mood...

Fun no?:roll:

[Scott]

Perhaps time is better described as "Duration" that is (Measurably Flexible) ;p

[annemirri]

No one could possibly know any of this time travel stuff for sure.

People here are just giving opinions based on their own experiences and their own thinking.

I know there are people here who regularly astral travel which also includes time travel.

Who are we to say otherwise just because we have not experienced it ourselves?

That is not true, as

WE CAN POSSIBLY KNOW OF TIMETRAVEL FOR SURE.

some astraltravel may include time travel,- done that.

and let it be corrected here that my reply to "K626" was a personal joke,
which he may or may not have understood. (so I try to leave personal jokes outside this forum,
but it is so annoying that people cannot be real here, their have characters to play,
and then in real world they are so different, even me ?, as I was told that I am a very SCARY person on this forum, am I ? )

a.

[Swanny]

Fun no??

Does that mean isn't this fun??
Yea great stuff :)

[Swanny]

That is not true, as

WE CAN POSSIBLY KNOW OF TIMETRAVEL FOR SURE.

some astraltravel may include time travel,- done that.

and let it be corrected here that my reply to "K626" was a personal joke,
which he may or may not have understood. (so I try to leave personal jokes outside this forum,
but it is so annoying that people cannot be real here, their have characters to play,
and then in real world they are so different, even me ?, as I was told that I am a very SCARY person on this forum, am I ? )

a.


Speak for yourself I'm the same out there as I am in here :p

Sorry but you can't know anything for sure you can only think you do :)

[Gita]

That is not true, as

WE CAN POSSIBLY KNOW OF TIMETRAVEL FOR SURE.

some astraltravel may include time travel,- done that.

and let it be corrected here that my reply to "K626" was a personal joke,
which he may or may not have understood. (so I try to leave personal jokes outside this forum,
but it is so annoying that people cannot be real here, their have characters to play,
and then in real world they are so different, even me ?, as I was told that I am a very SCARY person on this forum, am I ? )

I find it to be more flexible not to set my opinions and beliefs in stone so I try not to make statements about things that we’re not 100% sure about subjectively as facts. I’m also very appreciative and respectful of others’ opinions no matter how they differ to my own – this makes things a lot more fun for me and allows my mind to be flexible enough to consider new info.

There are some of us on this forum that are absolutely real – I’m no different on the forum as in outside world and a few people on this forum know me and have met me in person that can see no difference in the way I am and I can say the same for them. Playing a character is too much hassle for me and it’s not who I am or choose to be. I look for the truth like most here but in my reality the truth starts with me which means for me to be real in every moment of the day which I find comes naturally to me.

I did not mean to offend you in anyway and I don’t think you are ‘SCARY’ but your post did come off as a bit abrupt but I do understand it can sometimes be hard to just translate it on the forum. I hope this post does not come off as abrupt as that is not my intention. I much prefer calm to friction.:thumb:

Peace to you annemirri.

[annemirri]

But in this reality that has to have already happened.


If we just speak of this reality,
this what we see around us now, in this moment,
on this planet, timeline, cycle or grid, I am able and willing to say more.

I give you another simple example, like how the psychics are able to see future events,

as I do sometimes get very clear visions of future events,
which will happen EXACTLY, every detail, in every sense,
the way I have seen them happening or manifesting.

Like, a year ago my neigbour decided to go to China to find a wife,
and asked me to take care of his cat.

That specific moment I saw him coming back during a night with his new wife.
I was sleeping in my bed, when I heard a car on the driveway, I walked to the window to see the car and the neigbour,
I cannot see the new wife, but I can hear her footsteps and her talking...

A few months later my neigbour came back without a wife,
I was kind of disappointed, as I had seen him in my vision coming back with his new wife.

But,
a few months later, I woke up during a night as I had seen in my vision,

I knew that NOW was the moment that I had seen happening.

I decided to stay in my bed and change the events
and not to go to the window to see the neigbour and his new wife...
.but I was like pulled in some sort of timecontinuum
and I could not change that event
as I was there by the window watching my neigbour coming home,
hearing her footsteps, her talking....

Hope this helps,
a.

[Gita]

Just posted this on a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?447-Penney-Peirce-Frequency-Intuition-Time-amp-Dreams)– thought it may be relevant to this thread.

Penney says “We're leaving the Information Age and entering the Intuition Age. That means our perception is shifting and the rules of the way life functions are changing. It is only by becoming skilful with intuition and mastering the art of working with the "frequency principles" that govern energy and awareness, that you'll be truly successful in our lightning fast new world”.



Red Ice Radio - Penney Peirce - Pt 1 - Frequency, Intuition, Time & Dreams

Part one

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[Studeo]

Quantum time machine 'allows paradox-free time travel'

Quantum physicists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology believe it is possible to create a time machine which could affect the past without creating a "grandfather paradox"

Scientists have for some years been able to 'teleport' quantum states from one place to another. Now Seth Lloyd and his MIT team say that, using the same principles and a further strange quantum effect known as 'postselection', it should be possible to do the same backwards in time. Lloyd told the Technology Review: "It is possible for particles (and, in principle, people) to tunnel from the future to the past.".....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7904712/Quantum-time-machine-allows-paradox-free-time-travel.html

[Operator]

Interesting read/subject ... and it appears just like that in MSM ... :confused:

[tone3jaguar]

Past = Idea
Future = Idea

Scientists figuring out how to move things into ideas = crazy

[Humble Janitor]

So theoretically, I could set the timer on a Delorean to tunnel into the past?

[Operator]

Past = Idea
Future = Idea

Scientists figuring out how to move things into ideas = crazy

If space and time are the same thing .... you can move things through space ... ;)

[Fredkc]

A clip taken from the Discovery Channel documentary 'The First Time Machine'
Category:


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Looked interesting to me.

Part 2:

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Fred

[irishspirit]

wow.

That is really interesting.

My questioning mind has to ask thought, have they been there, done that and ready for the next big one?

Nice catch fred.

Be Safe

Irish

[MariaDine]

At the border of France and Switzerland, they constructed the most powerful particle collider in the world.

The purpose of this huge collider was to re-enact the "Big Bang" (a theory in which the whole universe started with an explosion and the rapid expansion of matter) and discover new particles and focus on our whole creation.

Some people say that because the collider would re-enact the Big Bang, it would consequently produce several tiny black holes ........

ACCORDING TO THE NEWS THE PROJECT DEAR TO THE DEVELLOPMENT OF «OUR TIME MACHINE« JUST MADE IT THROUGH THE MONEY CUTS.........:)

17 SEPTEMBER 2010 ------------

GENEVA (Reuters) - The European center for research of particle physics, CERN, said on Friday that budget cuts will force the institution to temporarily close their accelerators in 2012. Nevertheless, the center reported that the "Big Bang machine", its main unit, will generally unscathed by the cuts.

In announcing the budget leaner, which involves cutting of 135 million Swiss francs (133.4 million dollars) over five years until 2015, the funds received from governments, CERN announced that their program of study of the origin of cosmos will continue as planned.

The organization announced that the expansion in the intensity of the beams of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) would be postponed for a year, and would happen in 2016 instead of 2015, which means that scientists will have to wait for the experiences that will collect data at speeds higher.

A particle accelerator is a machine that propels beams of subatomic particles at high speed in opposite directions. Physicists use these machines to create high-energy collisions that allow the study of the properties of the basic elements of building area.

CERN operates a network of accelerators, including the LHC, the world's largest, opened two years ago, in order to test predictions about high energy physics.

CERN has previously said that the LHC will not operate in 2012 "for purely technical reasons." Now informed that all their other accelerators will also be closed in 2012, to allow concentration of resources on the most critical research.

"The whole complex of accelerators at CERN now to join the LHC at a standstill for a year," the organization said in a statement. "The leadership of CERN believes that this is a good result for the laboratory, given the current economic environment."

Scientists and technicians held a protest outside the main building of CERN on the border between France and Switzerland near Geneva last month, against the possibility of budget cuts.

Reduced government contributions are part of efforts by European governments to reduce non-essential spending, after the global financial crisis. Scientists say cuts in research budgets will reduce innovation and job creation, hurting economic recovery in the long term.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Dear Avalonians, I found this piece on the website of David Anderson, a scientist in space/time technology. Directly underneath is a link to an audio interview with David. I know about the breath being a vehicle to other dimensions, but using the energy of a central crystal feels Atlantean to me. I wonder what your thoughts and opinions are on this. Crystals are magical to me, I have them in my home and garden, most of the time they are silently present, being enjoyed by me. Maybe I should throw them a party? Hmmmmm? Crystalline Tint.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/show.aspx?userurl=otherworldradio&year=2009&month=12&day=24&url=dr-david-anderson--time-travel-journeys-into-time-
http://www.andersoninstitute.com/crystal-time-travel.html
Crystal Time Travel
What crystals are:

- Crystals are living entities and not objects. They exist in two states:
Closed (dormant) and open (active). They are commended open by the mind or a series of sound vibrations. They hold a lot of information about our own crystal line form (the human body). And this information leads to a better connection to the soul and the spirit.

- There are two forms of crystals: organic (those we have available at this time) and genetic (those we will use in the future or those found in the time chamber of the AA site).

Their importance, and how can they be used

- The organic crystals are programmed to lead toward understanding on how to create, grow or import genetic ones.
- Crystals respond to mental command (telepathic communication) and also to sound vibrations, such as Tibetan bowls and other toning devises. They are very receptive to certain frequencies, more specially the frequency of love unconditional.
- Genetic crystals are designed, grown or created for specific functions, such as: data processing, energy broadcast, energy fields, propulsion systems, healing, scanning and sensing devises... Cooper is very conducive for such energy in its technological aspects.
- Such technologically engineered crystals were what was used once on Atlantis and we will at some point in time find again a way to use them, so that we may stop polluting the Earth and better the quality of life. We can access through them or tap into an unlimited and abundant source of intelligent energy (photon energy), which is already present, but not harvested.
- In order to be used properly, a crystal need to be encored into the Earth, so that it can draw energy from the Earth, open up and create generations of energies . Creating a vortex of energy such as this can then be used for a number of sacred activities such as space and time travel.

I was introduced to such technology by a friend and personal guide of mine from the planet Chiron. I was curious to interact with extraterrestrials and upon my request, he explained to me that I have many friends in other dimensions and it is easier for a human being to visit another civilized planet or dimension, then for extra terrestrial to visit us here, because human beings are not so receptive and most human are not very welcoming of them.

He further explained how to create such vehicle for inter dimensional travel. I have since performed almost 200 initiations and I am getting more and more comfortable in this process. Every human being as the right and ability to space travel, but the scientific community has not caught up with it yet. Albert Einstein was the first scientist I know who was doing that to gather information from the higher planes. He was a visionary person who expended our understanding of time, space, energy and matter.

In order to space travel (or time travel for that matter), one does not need to create a very complex and sophisticate machine such as a spaceship, but one can create a vehicle out of its own energy. When we see an extraterrestrial spaceship up in the sky, most of the times it is not as physical as it appears to be. When a ship enters into the atmosphere and the stratosphere it takes on a physical manifestation, but most of them are made out of thought forms.

In order to create an inter dimensional vortex, and a thought form vehicle, the process goes as follow:

First, one needs to gather a group of people (five or more) who have a similar intentionality, to tele-transport into another dimension. It can be done alone, but it is never recommended. Those five people or more need to be very clear and intended on doing just that. They need to be clear and it is not recommended to use alcohol or drugs or even doing this after a big dinner. They need to find a place that is private, empowered and energized. Such can be done with the presence of a central crystal or in the absence of it the participant need to invoke and visualize a crystal in their mind's eye. The physical presence of the crystal makes it easier, but it is not fundamental. In the absence of such crystal, I have used my own energy to bring the group to the predetermined destination. When a large crystal is used, the crystal is programmed for a specific destination and screen the participants, so that, if one is not ready, the person as to leave the circle rather then potentially prevent the energy of the group from departing.

This was first introduced to me for scientific research, to go and gather information in other realm of existence or future times where advanced technologies are already in place and retrieve it to find practical applications here and now on Earth. But I found that the people I knew where more interested in tourism, so this creative vehicle took on a relaxed form rather then taking a clear scientific direction up until now may be.

The process is experienced on the visionary realms and it become more and more clear as we become more adept to it. We will later find out how to take our physical body (all the molecules that makes up our physical body) with us in this process, as the WingMakers did or will do it the creation of the time capsules.

So, the groups is gathered in a private location and ready to do that work. They decide that they may go to Pleiades or Chiron or the fifth density... and then they start on a visualization (with their eyes closed) where they begin to envision, to formulate a spaceship made up of their own energy which connects them. When all are in a semi trance state and feel the newly created ship enveloping them, the crystal is opened, the energy is released and the group depart their bodies.

A few minutes later they start to experience the vibration of the dimension they have reached. The first time they usually experience simple patterns, like geometric forms, deep feelings, or random visions. But as they become more experienced they can actually see the realms they have attained and interact mentally with guides and beings from those realms. When going with a specific task the time is utilized to achieve the goals of obtaining the information, but on a touristic voyage the information received is very personal to each participants. I sometime, undertook trips with a specific goal of researching a specific information and often getting there I was sent elsewhere in the universe where I could find what I was looking for.

After 30 to 45 minutes I usually brings the groups back to share the experiences they have received before returning on a second journey. The second time doing this is always more powerful for first timers. Most people on their first journey will be reluctant to come back to their bodies because they are always very comfortable in reaching the higher planes, so it usually takes a few more minutes for all to return, if they have not fallen into sleep.

This is different then astral travel in that we seek to reach a plane of reality higher then the forth dimension (which is still a level that is unresolved) and reach the fifth or above (where the knowledge is found and integrated). The energy of the group makes the visions a lot stronger and directed then someone doing this alone projecting into the astral planes.

Through this vehicle I have had a chance to visit many planets and dimensions. I have being invited to visit great ship made of light, met amazing beings and found additional meaning to my existence as a part of a greater , lager energy. I realized that I was to become an antenna to the spirit world and at some point to share those gift with all who are receptive to such potentials. To explore the universe would take a trillion lifetimes just to begin, so we take it one step at the time, one moment at the time and follow the guidance of our spirit and guides.

The following is a log written after a short visit to the planet Venus:

Space Log – October 22nd, 1998

We decided to undertake a journey. I was with two friends. One of them had taken a trip with me before; the other was new to the process. We were in Colorado and the time was 10:30 PM.

We decided to go on to visit the planet Venus. We went through the process of visualization and proceeded to our destination. All went well with the transport and as I probed my friends mentally, I saw that they were both fine.

I then saw myself arriving in a large spaceport full of activity and lights. I felt that I had to register our arrival. This formality took about a minute and I asked that if possible, my comrades and I could meet personal guides to that dimension. I felt that I was granted clearance and that my request was to be approved.

I proceeded to the inner planes of the planet, where all activities are taking place. I could see that the planet was completely filled with space of various shapes and colors. It came to me that the big north - south volume connecting the poles through the center of the sphere was used as the central administration of the planet.

From my position I could perceive many areas, all of different colors and different shapes. I could see the whole inner planet from where I was. My attention went to one of the largest space of deep dark blue color. The whole picture was very beautiful but I could not penetrate any of the areas I was looking at. May be I did not try as I was comfortable watching the whole picture from my position. I remained there for a few minutes, watching those colorful spaces and I began to see activities happening between the various areas. I could not figure out what exactly what was happening although I was feeling more and more the level of energy that was exchanged between the various spaces.

A guide then greeted me, something I had mentally requested at the time of arrival. She proceeded to a lift going from my present location on the inner planes of the planet leading directly to a platform above the clouds and the upper atmosphere. I followed her.

I knew that my guide was a woman, she had a very attractive energy and I felt that she was taller then I but I could not see her face or even her physical appearance. From that space platform we entered a small ship which was waiting there and flew off.

That ship was small but fast and maneuverable. We had a large view screen in front of us and two smaller screens on each side. In a just few second she had taken us back into the Earth atmosphere and as we were going down, I could see the vision of the land below with great accuracy and acuteness. She attempted to show me a point somewhere on a southern coast of a peninsula of the eastern Canadian coast.

The ship was of very comfortable and I could see through the large view screen, the part of the Earth she was pointing out to me coming closer. The definition of view screen was very clear and having impressive zooming ability. She did not communicate the significance of that point but I felt that she was showing it to me for a good reason, which did eludes me at the time. I now suspect why she pointed my attention there and I am sure that I will sooner or later be able to investigate my series about that particular vortex.

Then the ship shifted and swiftly moved out of the Earth and the next thing I saw was the planet Saturn a few seconds later. We took a wide turn above the rings and then we were flying through space, I did felt the acceleration of the ship but very little gravity pressure.

I next saw through the central window two bright lights approaching. I realized that we were on the border of the space of the Alpha Centauri system. The ships approaching were border patrols ships or so it felt. We kept moving until they could almost reached us, then she turned our ship away and said to me telepathically in English: “the place you like”. She somehow knew that I have always loved my visits on Alpha Centauri, and I felt her smile as we pulled away and returning to the space of our own solar system before those ships could reach us.

The return trip only took a few seconds and then we landed back on the platform, to find myself back in the spaceport where we first arrived

I thank her for that wonderful voyage, sent blessings and wished her well. I was back at my point of arrival and so I felt it was the time to gather my group and return home.

Two minutes later called back my friends to return, then we all back in our physical bodies in Colorado.

I asked for a report on the experience they had and they both told me they had a good time. The first one said that she had an interesting experience but was shy to talk about it. My other friend was greeted on Venus and spent time with a guide with a very long neck, a joyful guide who took her in a very playful dimension of lights and sounds. Has she described him, I could perceive him and I could see that his skin was of a bright violet hue color. I could see his face and physical appearance as well. As a result of this, she was later inspired to create a series of paintings representing dancing figures who were flying through space in warm and pleasing colors.

As for me this trip was wonderful and a unique experience. I am hoping to return sometime and may be to meet again that person who was so kind to show me around our solar system.

GM.

[shadowstalker]

Wow awesome stuff Tint

[truthseekerdan]

Freeman interviews Dr. David Lewis Anderson on Time Travel part 1 of 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDDLaD82sU)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDDLaD82sU

Enjoy :thumb:

[Binaryspellbook]

There are six parts to this. The rest can be found if you view this video at source.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70L6hqcB4ng

[Gajanana]

Hiya all, Sometime ago I found the website of a community in France, that experimented with time-travel. I have lost the link and cant seem to find it again on the web. The community were living a very alternative lifestyle and I remember that art was a very important part of thier lives. If this rings any bells, I would very much appreciate a link or a name.
Many thanks in advance - anthony

[ace]

Hiya all, Sometime ago I found the website of a community in France, that experimented with time-travel. I have lost the link and cant seem to find it again on the web. The community were living a very alternative lifestyle and I remember that art was a very important part of thier lives. If this rings any bells, I would very much appreciate a link or a name.
Many thanks in advance - anthony

http://www.perillos.com/enigmas.html Maybe,

Ace

[Gajanana]

Ace that was... Ace!!! damn quick - I thank you. Anthony

[araucaria]

Opoul-Perillos has an interesting postcode: 66600... Not only is it in Cathar country, not far from Rennes-le-Château, but it is close to Tautavel, where prehistoric hunters were living 450 000 years ago

[ace]

I know a person who has been involved with the project
He helped me with some work on teleporting.

Ace

[Carmody]

I know a person who has been involved with the project
He helped me with some work on teleporting.

Ace

and......? Please continue, Ace.

[ace]

I know a person who has been involved with the project
He helped me with some work on teleporting.

Ace

and......? Please continue, Ace.

Hello Carmody

Very much a layman's version of getting from one place to an other, simple technic for those who travel allot.

I personally am attracted to people who explain the "Secrets of this World" (And Mind) in simple terms, and that he did.

I can only explain it as it was explained to me.

If you are a driver, you will have at some point experienced lost time, right? Your driving along and your conciseness slips, Might last 5 or 10 minuets, then you snap out of it, and think " I don't remember driving those last 5 or 10 minuets"

The past ten years I have been commuting a great deal between England, Paris and Way down to the South of France. Mostly by Air, (I don't own a car) But I do hire them as and when needed.

I have flirted with the Art world for a while, still do. Creativity is a must to free the mind (un plug from conditioning) I have had a fascination with the power of the mind for a long time.

I discovered a group of people who were talking about Time and how it simply does not exist (As we know) at that time I did not.

In short I can now make a journey from A to B But the bit in the middle does not exist, just like the example with the driving I gave you above.

Their is a little work involved before you make your journey,to prepare, just involves changing your state of conciseness and when you arrive at your destination you change it back, but as we know you have to exercise the mind just as you do the body.

It does not happen the first time you try it, but each time you do it, it becomes stronger, But you don't become proficient at anything with out practice, do you?

It's fun, and you can begin to do it with short journeys to the local shop for starters. All you do is sit in your starting position close your eyes and use your vision to make the journey to the shop, see yourself leaving the house walking to the shop.

Try to picture in as much detail the things you know you will see, entering the shop buying your bread and returning home, you return to the start position close your eyes, simply re play the journey in your mind and bring your consciousness right back to the room.

It will begin to feel like you never made the journey, mais you got your bread!!

As I say the more you practice the better it is. The above is a very small and easy exercise as you develop you can make longer journeys.

Without the effect of making them.

Regards
Ace

[Phoenix]

Hello All,

If you could go back in time and talk to yourself at 20 years old, knowing what you know today, what would you say?

Also, what career path would you suggest and why?

I ask, because I feel it's my destiny to positively affect the maximum number of people on earth that I can. I just don't know how to do it yet. Thanks in advance for participating.

-Phoenix

[SKAWF]

nice one Phoenix,
i had a similar idea a while ago.
it was....

if you could go back in time to a point before you 'woke up'
what would you say to yourself that would speed up your journey?.

unfortunately i'm still trying to think of it.
this was over 2 months ago!

there is the world inside you, and the world outside of you.
whats outside is just a reflection of whats inside.
we can change the inside world, and the outside world will reflect that change
but we have been tricked into thinking there is only the outside world
and that is massively influenced by dark forces.
all your power is within you. not outside
stay focused, and dont allow yourself to be distracted.

there is more but i wouldnt want to overload myself!

steve

[loveandgratitude]

Integrated past, present and future meditation

Even though this sounds complicated, it is really easy. Read through it a copy of times, then try it, It produces some interesting answers to your future.

First get into a totally relaxed and into a peaceful state.

Imagine a special room in your mind which has two chairs facing each other. You sit in one chair, and in the chair opposite you, visualize your future self five years from now. She/He appears as the ideal “you” that you are striving to become. She/He has all the attributes you would like to have gained by then.

The two of you can have a conversation for a few minutes where you can ask her/him questions, and she/he willingly answers them. Sh/He knows where you are right now as well as the challenges you are dealing with, challenges she’s/he's long since overcome.

Then when that future self from 2016 gets up and leaves, in your mind, take her/his seat, and your past self from five years ago can enter the room and take the first seat. So now you are looking back on your past self (you 2006). Take a moment to remember what your life was like exactly five years ago, so you can recall what that past you is experiencing.

Now she/he can ask questions about her/his future (your present), and you provide the answers with compassion and love. Take the time to reassure you in 2006 that everything turns out well for you in 2011. Let her/him also know the things you haven’t yet resolved that you’re still working on.

Allow her/him to leave the space and then fast-forward through time to yourself in five years. You are the person you will be in 2016, and as you look at that other chair you see yourself in 2011. So you are looking back on your present situation from the future — from a vantage point where you’ve already solved your biggest challenges. She/He can ask the same questions you previously asked your future self, and as 2016 you, you can answer with confidence and certainty.

Then allow all three of you to be in the room together (You in 2006, you today, and you in 2016) and visualize all three of you becoming one in some way – you may blend into one being in a flash of light, or you may imagine another way. So in some way you become an integrated whole, a single being who exists outside of time and can experience the sensation of growth and change in your life.

[SKAWF]

thats a fantastic idea.

nice one loveandgrattitude.

steve

[andrewgreen]

I'd say don't worry about the anything especially the future and just follow what your heart says now.

[Alien Ramone]

I would avoid myself. I needed to go through my life as it was for my brain chemistry and personality to adjust to what it is now and for me to wake up to what is going on. Talking to myself could interfere with that.

[Phoenix]

Integrated past, present and future meditation

Even though this sounds complicated, it is really easy. Read through it a copy of times, then try it, It produces some interesting answers to your future.

First get into a totally relaxed and into a peaceful state.

Imagine a special room in your mind which has two chairs facing each other. You sit in one chair, and in the chair opposite you, visualize your future self five years from now. She/He appears as the ideal “you” that you are striving to become. She/He has all the attributes you would like to have gained by then.

The two of you can have a conversation for a few minutes where you can ask her/him questions, and she/he willingly answers them. Sh/He knows where you are right now as well as the challenges you are dealing with, challenges she’s/he's long since overcome.

Then when that future self from 2016 gets up and leaves, in your mind, take her/his seat, and your past self from five years ago can enter the room and take the first seat. So now you are looking back on your past self (you 2006). Take a moment to remember what your life was like exactly five years ago, so you can recall what that past you is experiencing.

Now she/he can ask questions about her/his future (your present), and you provide the answers with compassion and love. Take the time to reassure you in 2006 that everything turns out well for you in 2011. Let her/him also know the things you haven’t yet resolved that you’re still working on.

Allow her/him to leave the space and then fast-forward through time to yourself in five years. You are the person you will be in 2016, and as you look at that other chair you see yourself in 2011. So you are looking back on your present situation from the future — from a vantage point where you’ve already solved your biggest challenges. She/He can ask the same questions you previously asked your future self, and as 2016 you, you can answer with confidence and certainty.

Then allow all three of you to be in the room together (You in 2006, you today, and you in 2016) and visualize all three of you becoming one in some way – you may blend into one being in a flash of light, or you may imagine another way. So in some way you become an integrated whole, a single being who exists outside of time and can experience the sensation of growth and change in your life.

loveandgratitude, this is wonderful. I will try this. It's an interesting way to find the answers one is searching for, within. That's usually the only place you can find truth anyway.

It's weird, I've always had this place in my mind; it's this empty white room that stretches on for eternity, and I always go there when I need to be calm. Perhaps this is the special room you're referring to... I'll let you know how it goes:wave:

-Phoenix

[MariaDine]

LOL...what a great idea ! I would say to her/me - «Are you in for a surprise ! Everything you «see» and feel is correct and not your imagination. So, stop trying to be «normal» and exercise your healer and teacher gifts !»

Namasté

[Lord Sidious]

I would tell myself to seek medical assistance for the two injuries I had that never got fixed.

[MariaDine]

I would tell myself to seek medical assistance for the two injuries I had that never got fixed.


http://hijinksensue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/The-Doctor-Is-In-T-Shirt.png :)

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Well, I'd tell myself to drop out of school a lot sooner and save myself the trouble.
But I'm still 23 so ask me in a few years (:

[Tangri]

I would tell myself to seek medical assistance for the two injuries I had that never got fixed.

I am sorry to hear that you are not happy with your current body functionality.
Are you sure it is un repearable ?
Could you send me PM? if there is any help I can offer.

[Tangri]

Maybe I would advice him(he will be not me as I talk to him) about my dark side temptings.

And Provocative early woke up.

[DeDukshyn]

I would say - do exactly everything you want to do, but do not judge yourself or others in the process.

[Phoenix]

Unexpectedly simple - yet powerful advice. Thanks everyone.


Well, I'd tell myself to drop out of school a lot sooner and save myself the trouble.
But I'm still 23 so ask me in a few years (:

If you don't mind me asking, how are you doing now without that degree? Are you doing something more fulfilling now?

-Phoenix

[Project_Buggy_Beach]

I’ve thought of this scenario often I can’t believe no one is mentioning specific instances in their lives that would have prevented them from experiencing a roadblock, or making a wrong choice. For example, I use to know a very nice young woman, we met and had an instant understanding of each other’s personalities, things moved very quickly in our relationship, the kind of thing that happens once in a lifetime, but if you’ve never experienced it, and no one is there to tell you this young woman, maybe you should take this more seriously, than you surmise the same situation will continue, other women will come into your life with the same sort of deep connected feelings as this one, its how relationships work, but then its forty years later and you understand its not happening twice. So I would have said when you meet Julie, don’t let go, and I would have told me certain friends weren’t really friends, and don’t write that venting poem and leave it in the car for dad to find. Avoid telecommunication’s even if your flipping burgers, trust me you don’t want to work with those people.

[Fred Steeves]

Being that looking back I can't think of one thing I would change, I wouldn't interfere. Not that there haven't been many moments and periods of finding myself face down in a mud puddle so to speak because of tremendous ignorance and stupidity, but they can also be brilliant teachers if allowed. Every scar is well earned and appreciated.


Cheers,
Fred S.

[Lord Sidious]

I would tell myself to seek medical assistance for the two injuries I had that never got fixed.

I am sorry to hear that you are not happy with your current body functionality.
Are you sure it is un repearable ?
Could you send me PM? if there is any help I can offer.

Thanks for the concern.
I am not sure it is unrepairable.
An avalonugget has offered to put some effort into helping me if I can get myself to America to get it sorted.
So, I am hoping that base is covered soon.
I truly appreciate your concern and your offer.

[crosby]

if i could go back in time, hmmmm....... i would definitely smack myself upside of the head and say "wake up you idiot." woulda, coulda, shoulda......
warmest, corson

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Unexpectedly simple - yet powerful advice. Thanks everyone.


Well, I'd tell myself to drop out of school a lot sooner and save myself the trouble.
But I'm still 23 so ask me in a few years (:

If you don't mind me asking, how are you doing now without that degree? Are you doing something more fulfilling now?

-Phoenix

Just being a modest human being. I stopped going against the flow, and I do not feel a lack of education or mental stimulation because I'm not enrolled at BrainWash U.
Good friends, good beer, and good conversation. Flipping switches in each other's brains and letting life teach itself.

[Heartsong]

Twenty years ago my son was just entering adolescence. I had a part time job doing something very below my capacities. I had just been diagnosed with a chronic disease. I felt I needed to be close to my son. I felt I needed to secure my retirement income by working another 12 years.

Twenty years later I know I was right even though it was the hardest path. My son is doing well having endured the Army and undergraduate studies. He's now in law school and has found his path. I fully retired at age 55 and have started my long awaited path of my interests.

There's not much mystical about daily life. Only in retrospect can we see the results of the decisions we make. Whatever you decide, do it from your heart and do it responsibly.

[Herbert]

I would save myself from a chronic disease and large doses of prescription drugs for my entire adult life by telling my 20 year old self to stay away from doctors and get off the tetracycline for acne. I would say, even though you are not fully aware of it, you are experiencing depression caused by the tetracycline, and the antibiotic is doing no good whatsoever despite what doctors tell you. Tetracycline causes a life-long disease in the form of ulcerative colitis in teens and it is still being prescribed for acne. Fortunately for a few, I have given them this advise and corrected their colon problems before it was too late.

[Sowelu]

In 4 years you will figure out how to travel through time! patent it! lol :P

[Studeo]

Back to the future: Google creates online 'time machine' that allows users to move through space and time


It may not be quite as exciting as a flying Delorean.
But Google has nevertheless claimed to have created a 'time machine' in the shape of a web application that allows users to zoom into the minutest detail in the high-resolution time-lapse video.
Its creators said it allows users to travel through both space and time by moving the camera angle while the time lapse video plays and zoom in and out of specific sections.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1380245/Back-future-Googles-video-time-machine.html#ixzz1KrfA4l3a

http://timemachine.gigapan.org/wiki/Main_Page

[Phoenix]

I’ve thought of this scenario often I can’t believe no one is mentioning specific instances in their lives that would have prevented them from experiencing a roadblock, or making a wrong choice. For example, I use to know a very nice young woman, we met and had an instant understanding of each other’s personalities, things moved very quickly in our relationship, the kind of thing that happens once in a lifetime, but if you’ve never experienced it, and no one is there to tell you this young woman, maybe you should take this more seriously, than you surmise the same situation will continue, other women will come into your life with the same sort of deep connected feelings as this one, its how relationships work, but then its forty years later and you understand its not happening twice. So I would have said when you meet Julie, don’t let go, and I would have told me certain friends weren’t really friends, and don’t write that venting poem and leave it in the car for dad to find. Avoid telecommunication’s even if your flipping burgers, trust me you don’t want to work with those people.

Wow - I didn't see this one until just now... You have uncanny timing. At about the time you posted this, I met a girl on a train randomly, and honestly I've never connected so deeply with an individual I'd known for 5 seconds... you're advice is absorbed into me - I won't let you down ProjectBuggyBeach !

-Phoenix

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

In 4 years you will figure out how to travel through time! patent it! lol :P

best answer ever lol

I woudl say, "there is this shing called facebook, put all your money in it, and then get off the grid and disappear" lol

PVM

[lightwalker]

Below is part of an article I got from Steve Beckow's 2012 website. Great site by the way(stevebeckow.com) The link below has the whole thing.

Enjoy
lightwalker



http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/08/ti.html

Time travel & teleportation

by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

NOTE: This article is part of a continuing series on quantum access and other exotic technologies that have been developed by black budget military and intelligence projects and applied to date principally for weapons uses, rather than for the benefit of humanity, who in the end have paid with public funds for their original development. This article originally appeared in Veritas Magazine, Australia.

The U.S. government has had Tesla-based quantum access time travel technology for over 40 years. Time travel technology has been weaponised with its principal impacts to date being for the sequestration in time loops of secret military installations, such as U.S. secret bases on Mars, political control of the human population, political surveillance, and attempted imposition of a catastrophic timeline on humanity by withholding or manipulating information about future events.

I - Confirmation of U.S.’ use of Tesla-based time travel technology

Two independent whistleblowers from the U.S. national security state have come forward with congruent, sophisticated, and extensive insider accounts of their experiences with Tesla-based time travel technology developed by the U.S. Department of Defense.

Mars colony eyewitness Michael Relfe is a whistleblower and a former member of the U.S. armed forces who, in 1976, was recruited as a permanent member of the secret Mars colony. In 1976 (Earth time), he teleported to the Mars colony and spent 20 years as a permanent member of its staff. In 1996 (Mars time), Mr Relfe was time-travelled via teleportation and age-regressed 20 years, landing back at a U.S. military base in 1976 (Earth time). He then served six years in the U.S. military on Earth before being honourably discharged in 1982. ...................

[Tane Mahuta]

Thanks Lightwalker for the link.

TM

[jagman]

http://blog.koldcast.tv/wp-content/plugins/simple-post-thumbnails/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/thumbnails/6826.jpg&w=600&h=&zc=1&ft=pngThe%20Pitfalls%20of%20Making%20Time%20Travel%20Work
Recently, a team of Italian physicists made an interesting claim. They said they’d successfully shot neutrinos at a speed slightly faster than the speed of light, aka the speed limit of the universe. If what they say is true, the ramifications would be enormous. Physics, as we understand it, would change. In fact, if these little neutrinos can move faster than light, then it’s possible that anything – in the right situation – can do the same, and, dun-dun-dun, time travel would be a reality.

After watching episodes of The Future Machine, a series about the pitfalls of bending space and time to accomplish the goals of two Australian blokes (however trivial), I have some thoughts of my own about the whole time travel thing. If you’re a young inventor reading this at home, with a half-finished time machine humming in the next room, you’ll want consider the following before returning to your lab.
First, logic tells us that time travel would surely have disastrous effects on the human body. Right now, the scientific community is skeptical of time travel – and that only covers the debate over sending light back in time. The idea of sending a human being back or forward in time is a whole other can of atomic beans. There’s no use in sending someone on a time journey if they turn inside out and explode upon arrival. Unless, of course, we’re sending him back to the lab where the machine is being invented as a warning: “Do not waste more money on this machine, it makes people explode.”

Then again, we had no idea what affect sending a human being into outer space would have until we did it, and that turned out well. But that process existed within dimensions we understood – specifically, lines, ellipticals, and loop-de-loops. The process of sending a human being to the moon involves going from A to B and back to A (with a few space audibles in between). The process of sending a human being back or forward in time is entirely different. It would probably cause a little more than just motion sickness. It’s likely very similar to what happened in Lost. Remember when the island was “unstuck” in time and Sawyer and the gang were suffering from bloody nose-causing aneurysms? It’d be like that, except a million times less network TV friendly.
http://blog.koldcast.tv/media/timetravel/pic1.jpg
Moreover, let’s not forget the sheer speed involved. Think about how many safety precautions go into protecting a drag racer, then amplify that by 1000. If speed is the variable that controls the distance – kind of like winding up a catapult to get over the castle wall – then meaningful time travel would require some unfathomable m.p.h.

If the effects on the human being is not enough to deter you from time travel, think about the disastrous effects it would have on mankind itself. It would wreak havoc on the space time continuum and effect the entire human race with one wrong move.
http://blog.koldcast.tv/media/timetravel/pic2.jpg
So far, our dabbling in physics has turned out okay. Some people thought that the atom bomb, when detonated, would create a chain reaction that would instantly vaporize the entire universe. It didn’t. The same went for the Mass Hadron Collider, the particle accelerator built to study the deep structure of space and time and the intersection of quantum mechanics and general relativity. We’re still ok. But just because neither of those ventures actually ended up tearing open the fabric of the universe, doesn’t mean that it’s not still possible.
http://blog.koldcast.tv/media/timetravel/pic3.jpg

For the moment, let’s say the actual time travel process doesn’t destroy reality as we know it. Immediately, a secondary danger rears its ugly head. If you believe the world as we know it is the result of a series of actions and reactions, then any change in past actions would create different reactions, launching a chain reaction that would alter life as we know it – The Butterfly Effect. If you take this into account, then the idea of time travel seems downright irresponsible – because why else would you time travel if not to change something?

There’s a few schools of thought as to what would happen if a time traveler did something to alter the future timeline while in the past. Say a time traveler stomped on a particularly important dinosaur egg while foraging for elderberries. There’s the school of thought that believes time is absolute, therefore our universe (non time travelers) wouldn’t change. We’d never see the intrepid traveler again, but oh well, we’ll find another. Then there’s the school of thought where time is relative, and any changes made to the past would – in fact – bend reality. Atoms in the present would retroactively rearrange themselves to make sense of the cardinal rules of the universe. People would pop in and out of existence. Our brain chemistry would change accordingly. To us, however, nothing would change because the change would be instant. The scary thing about this idea is that it might have already happened; we just don’t know it.
http://blog.koldcast.tv/media/timetravel/pic4.jpg
Finally, the most mundane and practical reason time travel should be left to science fiction is its power to create mounds of military involvement and government regulation. Look how much work has gone into keeping nuclear weapons out of hands of terrorists. Now imagine how much work it would take to keep terrorists from going back in time and shooting Ghandi, or hijacking the Nina, the Pinta, or the Santa Maria.

But that’s not even the most dangerous part. The real danger would be from us – regular citizens. We’d effectively become plastic surgeons of time, except instead of doing a little tummy tuck, we’d be damming the flow of time. Councils would have to be formed to make sure all time travel is sanctioned. You’d need a permit. Time travel training facilities would have to be built, managed and accredited to train travelers. We’d have to add time traveling rules into our bylaws. It sounds like a headache.

So, before you take a step into your machine, young inventor, and Primer your way into the future, think of the endless committee meetings on the Morality of Time Tweakage. Think of the presidential debates framed around whether or not to destroy this infernal machine you’ve made instead of focusing on more important issues like clone’s rights.

[RMorgan]

Nice thread!!

Well, there are some more variants within this subject.

First, we must fully understand the physical properties of our reality. There is a possibility, that our reality is not as real as we believe, in this case, we might just be living inside an illusion, a very convincing illusion, that makes us believe that everything around us is completely real, in therms of solidity.

We can´t dismiss the possibility that we´re living in some kind of Matrix system, something like the movie. The Buddhist, and a few other doctrines and theorists, talk a lot about it. In this case, traveling in time would be much easier than moving our "physical" body trough space/time.

I remember a great movie, called "Somewhere in Time", with a beautiful soundtrack, by the way, in which the actor (the super-man guy) just had to surround himself with objects , wear cloths, and insert himself in an environment that faithfully resembled a certain past, and then, using the help of meditation, he manage to travel back in time.

Cheers,

Raf.

[The One]

From the creation of the highest mountains to the opening of a flower’s petals, time controls the world around us. To understand this super-powerful force on Earth, we must wrench control of time ourselves – compressing, expanding, stopping and dissecting it, to reveal how the passing of time shapes our world and lives

The World Shaped By Time. First in a three-part documentary series offering an insight into the dramatic forces that shape life on Earth, using speeded-up footage that compresses centuries into seconds. The programme follows the movement of mountains, rivers, glaciers and the sea, and offers a glimpse of what the future might hold, revealing how the Great Rift Valley may well be on its way to becoming the next ocean.In 3 parts enjoy

Time Machine The World Shaped By Time
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Life: The Race Against Time. How the passing of time on Earth affects life on a variety of levels, from the daily opening of a flower’s petals to the evolution of the horse. A swift journey through the seasons demonstrates how caribou spend most of their time on the move, while the flying squirrel’s body clock, attuned to the rhythms of the Earth, is revealed to be the most accurate in nature.

Time Machine Life The Race Against Time
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Masters of Time. The last episode in the series examines how humans perceive and experience time, investigating the internal body clock which tells people when to eat, drink, sleep and relax. The importance of accurately measuring time is explored in relation to human evolution, and there’s a debate about whether mankind will ever be able to travel between past, present and future.

Time Machine Masters Of Time
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[BestLion]

All religions talk about a place where time is no longer. The Christian myth call it heaven. The Norse call it Valhalla. Many stories in folk also talk of a place where time has stopped..and thus creating immortals.
I don't think man will ever master time. David Wilcox thinks man already has methods to do this. i don't think so. And even if they did the implications would be devastating.
Think about sex and reproduction. if i could go back in time..and meet say George Washington's dad..only talked to him for 1 minute..that one minute could change his life..and that 1 minute would also in a man change while in sex change the sperm that would be fertilized. thus just going back in time and having a 1 minute talk with one man would change the entire coarse of history, and create a paradox.No George Washington...probably no Lincolns, No win in the Revolutionary war etc.. and this would also effect the man in 2012 who made the time machine..he would never be born.
I think the universe is also time essential..it is how it works, how it grows and how it dies..it also is a living form.

[Kano]

All religions talk about a place where time is no longer. The Christian myth call it heaven. The Norse call it Valhalla. Many stories in folk also talk of a place where time has stopped..and thus creating immortals.
I don't think man will ever master time. David Wilcox thinks man already has methods to do this. i don't think so. And even if they did the implications would be devastating.
Think about sex and reproduction. if i could go back in time..and meet say George Washington's dad..only talked to him for 1 minute..that one minute could change his life..and that 1 minute would also in a man change while in sex change the sperm that would be fertilized. thus just going back in time and having a 1 minute talk with one man would change the entire coarse of history, and create a paradox.No George Washington...probably no Lincolns, No win in the Revolutionary war etc.. and this would also effect the man in 2012 who made the time machine..he would never be born.
I think the universe is also time essential..it is how it works, how it grows and how it dies..it also is a living form.

To me time is more fluid with infinite potential timelines existing simultaneously, not one hard timeline that everything else is tangentially related to. But I do agree with notion that the universe is a living form and may also be subject to time therefore subject to certain cycles and processes.

Cheers,
Kano

[BestLion]

To me time is more fluid with infinite potential timelines existing simultaneously
Ive pondered this myself . it is very difficult for my mind to comprehend, but I wonder if their is not some truth in that.

[Kano]

To me time is more fluid with infinite potential timelines existing simultaneously
Ive pondered this myself . it is very difficult for my mind to comprehend, but I wonder if their is not some truth in that.

It seems that in your post #5 in the thread below that you do believe in alternate timelines. Is that not what a parellel dimension would be?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37928-Terrified-Woman-From-Another-Universe-Wakes-Up...

Kano

[BestLion]

It seems that in your post #5 in the thread below that you do believe in alternate timelines. Is that not what a parellel dimension would be?
I have no hard evidence of this, but I think it is possible. And if one is possible then 1,000,000 could also be possible. That is alternative parrel dimensions.
other dimensions are real, and have been documented, and seen by people in an altered state of conscience. And then the question is how many dimensional realms are there? One could only speculate..we have people who seen half-humans half animals, alines, fairies etc..do they all just live in one other dimension? I tend to think they come from various dimensions. now with that said i think though all dimensions are subjected to time. The universe is subject to this..and so is energy.

[Kano]

:cool:

It seems that in your post #5 in the thread below that you do believe in alternate timelines. Is that not what a parellel dimension would be?
I have no hard evidence of this, but I think it is possible. And if one is possible then 1,000,000 could also be possible. That is alternative parrel dimensions.
other dimensions are real, and have been documented, and seen by people in an altered state of conscience. And then the question is how many dimensional realms are there? One could only speculate..we have people who seen half-humans half animals, alines, fairies etc..do they all just live in one other dimension? I tend to think they come from various dimensions. now with that said i think though all dimensions are subjected to time. The universe is subject to this..and so is energy.

I was under the impression from your take on the "grandfather paradox" that you subscribed to the thought that there was only one possible timeline. Perhaps I misunderstood/misread your post. Dimensions and Time fascinate me so that is why I engaged you about it.

BTW, welcome to the forum!

[BestLion]

I was under the impression from your take on the "grandfather paradox" that you subscribed to the thought that there was only one possible timeline. Perhaps I misunderstood/misread your post. Dimensions and Time fascinate me so that is why I engaged you about it
Well (grandfather paradox) Has some truth to it..when i talk of other dimensions I tend to talk in current time. If past time or traveling back in time then the grandfather paradox would likely apply. If you think about the grandfather paradox, then one would think that time travel would be well impossible....unless an altered timeline of some means was developed through all this.Thus..my other theory of time travel..
If time travel is possible then the person who does it..transports there in a other dimension...he is like a ghost in that time, unable to be seen or heard. but he is there..like in another dimension. kind of like he can see the 3rd dimension but he is in a all together other dimension.

[DreamsInDigital]

I think something we have to consider, beyond 3rd Dimension/Density Time is not perceived in the liner form that it is now, here in this dimension/density. Ultimately it's only our perception of time that limits us, as Remote Viewers can go any time frame, any place etc. Phillip Coppens mentioned on his facebook about this one tribe I think in South America? That perceive the past, present and future time simultaneously. And, I must say it's not "Time" that shapes our world and reality. It's Thought, Thought Directs Matter and is the basis of All Reality. Then, you have the fact that Time, Space and Thought are not the separate things they appear to be. Our and even the scientist and physicist that we have here, their perceptions and findings etc. Are very archaic when compared to the science and physics that are known through out the universe, and it is only our perception of these that are limiting us.

[CeltMan]

Proof that the Soul survives after death, - and can time travel.


This is a question that has been debated by learned people for centuries.
In the end, despite strong theological arguments etc, we are expected to ‘trust’ that the soul does indeed survive, and that there is a spirit world.

It is a burning question for many humans, and I suspect, especially for the ‘truth Seekers’ who visit this forum.

After careful consideration, I decided to share with you all, my own personal experience of this, which convinced me that the soul does indeed survive after death, … and that it can ‘time travel’//that ‘time’ is of no significance to the soul.

My mother passed away- April 24th was the date.(at approx. 1330/1.30pm)

In May of following year, I became friends with a lady with whom I shared many interests. This lady & I were ‘just friends’, no romantic involvement. (I will refer to the lady as ’ L’)

Although we had several conversations, L knew nothing about my origins, or my family etc..

L asked me one day to accompany her to the London/Mind Body Spirit exhibition, I agreed.

On the train as we were talking, she commented upon my ‘slight Northern accent’, and asked where I was from.
I replied Newcastle.

Then a very strange thing happened, L looked at me, frowned, went silent, then a look came over her face as if a light bulb had come on.

She said “Oh my God, ITS YOU!!”

I was puzzled, and asked her what she meant.

She then said, “Don’t tell me any more about yourself, - I WILL TELL YOU!”

L then started to tell me all about my family, how many siblings I had, my mother’s name, my father’s name, that we had been staunch Catholics, the severe state of my father’s health.

I was astounded, and asked if anyone had told her all this. She replied no. And considering that I trusted her, she had integrity, was a teacher, and my friends in the South had little knowledge of my Northern family etc.

So I asked L to explain how she knew so much about my family etc.

This is her account: [[ “ Last year, following an emotional breakup with a partner, I decided to seek advice from a clairvoyant.(calling her ‘C’) I arranged a reading for 24 April (note that date folks!!)

At 1330(1.30pm) The lady/C started to ‘read’, saying that a relative in spirit had a message for me.

Then suddenly she started saying, “Oh, I see, ok, well I suppose so”. So I asked her what was occurring.
C responded, “Well there is a lady here, in spirit, she has just passed over,..she is Very Powerful. She has ‘jumped the queue’, -insisting that you know her son. “

I asked C what her son’s name was, she told me, but I said I knew no-one by that name.
Then C stated that the lady was Most Insistent, that I and this man were very good friends, but Not romantically involved. C then started to quote ‘facts about this man’s family’, how many siblings he had (5), name of herself, her deceased husband, - that he had been very ill for many years and in severe pain & paralysed , that they were a staunch Catholic family, from Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Well none of this made the slightest of sense to me, so I had to say,- ‘ enough, I cannot accept any of this’. C thanked the lady for ‘coming through’, and the session was over.

I admit that I felt quite aggrieved, and frankly cheated. C had been highly recommended as a gifted clairvoyant.

Now, I realise that was You?. But how can that have been, we had not even met a year ago?!”]]

We then discussed this matter in detail, and both concluded as follows:
My mother had passed away, ….. new to the spirit world, confused, she had tried to tune into her ‘children’ etc. She (unknowingly) - ‘flew into the future’, saw L & I as friends, then ‘tuned in’ to C at the clairvoyance reading, and jumped in with a message to L, about/for me.

What was also interesting to me, was that I was not the favourite of my mother’s children. That was my youngest brother, yet it was me she ‘contacted’. - ‘Right time & place’ I guess?

That experience was sufficient to convince me, that spirit does survive after death, and it can indeed ‘time travel’//and that ‘time’ has no meaning in the spirit world.

Now, for how long (In our human time terms) spirit survives, ………….. I cannot say?

I have to state, that my own experiences of clairvoyant reading have been mixed, mostly what I ‘receive’ makes no sense.

My own hypothesis is that it is a little like ‘tuning a radio station’.

We have all done that, we turn the dial, find the music station we are seeking and start listening. Then after a period, realise it is the wrong station, it is indeed another station very close on the wave band.

My hypothesis is that a clairvoyant may tune into ‘the wrong wave band, and inadvertently receive messages from the wrong person in spirit’.

** It has since occurred to me that when a soul leaves this ‘mortal coil’, it can still be ‘available for a clairvoyant reading anytime in the future, - zoning back to the time of its passing’. In other words, even though that soul may have since (in Earth/human time) actually reincarnated into another body.


So, in summary: To me, that is proof, that: 1) the soul exists and survives the experience of death of the physical body.
2) That for the soul/spirit, - time is of no consequence.

Well that is my story; I trust it will be pertinent to some of you.
Feedback welcome, ….. and please feel free to share your own such experiences.

In memory of my late departed mother, her favourite musical composition:
Elgar’s Enigma/Nimrod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhnMd1Jl7SA&feature=related
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[sdv]

I came across mention of the Damanhur Federation in Northern Italy in a book a few years ago.

The singing plants of Damanhur have already been featured on this forum.

A group of about 1000 people have created a community with their own constitution, currency, and political systems in Northern Italy (without any arrests or military intervention or conspiracy or secret plan). Here is their website: http://www.damanhur.org/about-us/what-is-damanhur

However, the most fascinating thing about this community is that they claim to have found out how to time travel. (They have also built underground temples in the mountain. They are quite amazing and you can download a virtual tour - be sure to click on the map, top right, to see how the complex is situated in the mountains: http://www.thetemples.org/tour/.) Those of you who are interested in symbolism will find a lot of it in these temples!

The basis of the time travel is through drawing energy from the earth through what they call synchronic lines. (The Temples of Humankind have been built at a meeting point of the Synchronic Lines, the "rivers" of energy that link the Earth to the cosmos. A visit or a meditation in the Temples create an opportunity to tap into this extraordinary potential for one's own spiritual, artistic and personal growth.)

Here's an in-depth article about time travel at Damanhur (similarities to whistle blower testimony except that there is nothing secret or conspiratorial about this):
http://damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/the-other-face-of-damanhur/chapter-2-atlantis/time-travel-a-big-business-scam/

There's a 5-part video about Damahur. This part is about the time travel aspect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8PpjTqPb4

[wynderer]

i saw the Egyptian symbols & a red flag went up -- my first thought on reading the OP was: is this one of the communities of hybrids being placed among us? -- the Egyptian symbols suggest 'yes'

some at Avalon are aware that a big soul 'harvest' is being planned -- this will be accomplished [imo] by massive deaths of the body -- many dying at once in great chaos -- most leaving their bodies are not thinking about what exactly death is -- Humans who can see into other dimensions are either dissed or used by the NWO

& the harvest will be accomplished in part [imo, again] by great deceptions in 4D -- all kinds of 'beings of Light' appearing -- tailored to the individual's belief systems -- to lead them 'home' or help them 'ascend'

perhaps even the 'benevolent ETs' will appear en masse in ships to take some 'home' or help them 'ascend'

[sdv]

I don't have any kind of prejudice against Egyptian mythology or any other; besides to believe in good or bad is to cling to the illusion of boundaries. Humanity has made many attempts to map human consciousness, and what meaning you attach to symbols, myths and so on, depends on where you are on the map of human consciousness. I am more interested in being aware of my own consciousness and thus trying to align myself with vibrational frequencies, such as healing, that are appropriate for that level. From what I have seen of the artwork in the temples, the community at Damanhur has tried to represent symbols from every level and range of consciousness.

What I am really interested in is opinions about if these people in Damanhur are flakey oddballs, albeit very artistic ones, or if they have created some kind of portal that makes time travel and quantum healing a reality.

Of course, what is also interesting is how a thousand plus people created their own community with their own currency, constitution, political life and so on. If there are so many in the USA who long for this then what made it possible in Italy and makes it impossible in the USA? From my limited view I have seen a gradual erosion of 'the will of the people' in the USA - deregulation of the finance sector that allowed a few to enrich themselves at the expense of the majority and get away with it, draconian laws that literally have put the country in a state of emergency, a deliberate manipulation of paranoia regarding an external threat ... BUT anyone who knows anything about history knows that oppressive regimes will always fall.

[Hughe]

I hope the Damanhur people know what they are up to while messing with time lines.

@wynderer

My personal opinion about soul harvesting is it's has been done eons by non-human entities who figured out how to manipulate the soul memory and construct invisible matrix that locks entire species' collective mind. People who don't have soul memory will barely move forward during a life time. And they will repeat the slavery living hundreds generation to serve various non-human entities whatever they are.

[Kindred]

OP... I had come across this group a number of months ago, quite by accident. What they have achieved is significant. However, I had not seen or heard of their purported ability to 'time travel', although, it's not beyond possibility, IMHO. The Spirit of Life 'has a way' of Making things happen.

I do find it interesting that they had been threatened by the Vatican to be shut down, but an outpouring of support by the locals and their community/government prevented that.

They are a testimony to the indomitable Spirit that resides in Everyone.

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[delfine]

Damanhur is a cult. The leader has created an autocratic regime for himself, with obdient followers (slaves) who work unpaid + he has sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. (The old cult-leader story).
Some reports say that Damanhur is actually a dying commune, due to the isolationistic tendencies and because every newcomer is treated with utmost reservedness. No babies are born there,
and the people who stay , stay mainly because they are trapped there by poor economy. It´s a dismal place. Don´t get fooled by the pretty artwork.

[jcocks]

I don't think you can truly "trap" or "harvest" a soul - that is, it is never trapped forever, it can escape. The thing is they trick the soul into thinking it is free when it is not. The soul would always be free to escape if it wished but would never think to do so since it doesn't even know it is trapped! This whole entrapment of a sould forever is yet another trick to bring about a fear energy which the miscreant entities can then feed off! Don't believe it!

[tonius]

From what i have red about it, testimonials of people who have left it seems the typical cult structure. As it usually happens in this cases the outer impression doesnt correspond to what goes inside. I dont care if they can timetravel or build beautiful temmples, from what i percieve the outer beauty of this comunity gives a ''creepy'' vibe to me,after having listened to what people who left say.
They give many details which correspond, to be just words of frustrated ''evicted'' people. I hope i am wrong, i really hope there are sincere exampels of comunities like we all wish here at avalon, but my intuition says me something is ''wrong'' in this place, after all who better than us here can understand how sometimes the truth is so covered with layers of deception that it becomes difficult to differentiate between what one wishes something to be and what that thing realy is.

The principle of this project in theory seems promissing, but so were the principles of comunism at the beginning : ''better life for all, equally'', and that is until a group of people with the god complex, decide whats best for others. Its the relationships between people, seen truly as they are, that count , not temples or parades. And something tells me these relationships aren't exactly the way thay want to sell it.

[Mozart]

Damanhur is a cult. The leader has created an autocratic regime for himself, with obdient followers (slaves) who work unpaid + he has sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. (The old cult-leader story).
Some reports say that Damanhur is actually a dying commune, due to the isolationistic tendencies and because every newcomer is treated with utmost reservedness. No babies are born there,
and the people who stay , stay mainly because they are trapped there by poor economy. It´s a dismal place. Don´t get fooled by the pretty artwork.


delfine ~


I want to thank you for your post and to confirm that all of what you said is true, based on the several firs-person accounts of several of my friends who had gone there and been there, done that there.


I had once wanted to go there, but then when I started to hear of the downsides of it, I was very disappointed.


Human ego. Ugh. It's a petty tyrant when one allows it to dominate one's reality and others around one.


~Mozart

[yvettesoler]

Greetings! My name is yvette and I live at Damanhur. I know I am opening up a can of worms, but I would be happy to answer any questions you have about the community, including Time Travel.

There are many Damanhurians and ex-Damanhurians online which you can speak with. There is a Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/damanhur.ms and a blog, http://www.damanhurblog.com with all kinds of information. You can also come visit and see the community and the Temples of Humankind!

Blessings!

[yvettesoler]

Some reports say that Damanhur is actually a dying commune, due to the isolationistic tendencies and because every newcomer is treated with utmost reservedness. No babies are born there,
and the people who stay , stay mainly because they are trapped there by poor economy. It´s a dismal place. Don´t get fooled by the pretty artwork.

I won't try to convince anyone of whether or not Damanhur is a cult, that is a decision that each person has to make for his/herself. The only thing I would like to comment on are incorrect statements. Babies are born at Damanhur all the time. There were two births in the last month and several mothers are expecting.

As for being isolated, most Damanhurians can be found online and travel regularly for work and/or pleasure. To give you an example, in my nucleo home alone, last week one couple and their son went to Sicily to visit their family, one woman went to Sicily to commemorate the passing of her grandfather, one woman is in Spain visiting her family and friends and I spent the weekend at the beach with a friend to celebrate my birthday. This is in one nucleo community house that has 23 adults and children (all the children were born here). We have a little under 30 nucleos spread across the valley.

[sdv]

Hi Yvette

Got to go and deal with practical stuff but I am so glad that there is a Damanhurian in this community!

I would love it if you would share your experiences of the earth energies in this place (Damanhur) and especially about the healing work that is done in the temples.

Will be back when I have spent the hours standing in queues and filling in forms!

[yvettesoler]

Hi Yvette

Got to go and deal with practical stuff but I am so glad that there is a Damanhurian in this community!

I would love it if you would share your experiences of the earth energies in this place (Damanhur) and especially about the healing work that is done in the temples.

Will be back when I have spent the hours standing in queues and filling in forms!

Thanks Sdv. I have been here a while, but I tend to be a bit of a lurker in forums. I am highly active on Facebook, so if you are interested in learning more about me you can check out http://www.facebook.com/yvettesoler.

So many experiences here at Damanhur... where to begin. I think the thing that most attracts me to Damanhur is the ability to truly *live* my spirituality at its fullest. Because the base is that every action we take can be considered a form of meditation, even the most mundane acts become a form of ritual communication. This means that even choosing where to put a garden or a new sculpture requires taping in to the energy of the area to find the place with the energies are in sync with what you are trying to do. When we are designing new areas, we tend to think about the environmental footprint, how we can make it most sustainable, and how the nature spirits feel about what we are doing. It is for this reason that Damanhur has only one cardinal rule: no smoking on any Damanhurian territory. This rule is based on a contract made with the nature spirits of the area many years ago, where they asked us to keep the area free of the harm done to the subtle energy by smoke.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6912716279_1332f0c691_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damanhur_ms/6912716279/)
Hall of Spheres (http://www.flickr.com/photos/damanhur_ms/6912716279/) di Damanhur Federation Mothership (http://www.flickr.com/people/damanhur_ms/), su Flickr
As for healing work, most of it involves the use of Selfica and Prana. The Temples of Humankind are a conduit into the Synchronic Lines, which allows those who work there to contact Forces and send out messages and healing. It is something that is done with great care, after years of study and research.

If you have a specific issue, there are several ways to access healing/help:
Each nucleo has a spheroself with which you can make a request to the Divine Forces for help.
There are several Temples where you can put in a request for help.
You can have individual sessions of Prano, Stiloself and other types of healing.
There are mandalas that can be traced to connect you to specific energies.
You can ask the Oracle of Damanhur: http://www.damanhurblog.com/2011/07/14/answers-from-the-oracle-rite-of-the-full-moon/.
and more...

Does this answer your question?

[onawah]

Hi Yvette,
I am glad to see you are still here on Avalon.
I noticed you did not address this statement by one of the members here:
"The leader has created an autocratic regime for himself, with obedient followers (slaves) who work unpaid + he has sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. (The old cult-leader story)."
I have some experience with intentional and spiritual communities and I know that there is indeed, unfortunately, often a core of sexual dysfunction, particularly when there is one charismatic leader.
So that would indeed be something that would concern me, were I considering visiting or becoming a member of Damanhur.

However, that is not the case for me, so I am not personally concerned about that.
It's clear that the Damanhur community has had success on many levels, and perhaps will heal itself of any serious dysfunction in time.
I certainly hope so, if there is that need.
We need many models of community that works on our planet at this time, that is certain.

I am very curious about the selfic healing.
I think I asked this before, but I can't remember now what your reply was.
Do you use crystals with the selfic methods of healing? It doesn't appear that they are a major component, if you do.
I sent you a link before about a website that has a lot of information about crystals and how they were used in Atlantis
The link is http://earth-keeper.com/
Did you ever investigate that info, and if so, what were your impressions?

I think that crystals were used a lot in Atlantis, both for healing and for energy grids.
Are some of your members astral traveling there to learn about Atlantean technology and healing methods?
Other questions are: what are the views at Damanhur on ET/EDs (extra terrestrial and extra dimensional) beings present at this time on the planet, and does Damanhur have any direct communication or interactions with ETs?
Is Damanhur affiliated with any other organizations or teachings and what is the background of your founder?
Is he married, has be been married more than once, and does he have children?
Are there many married couples at Damanhur, and do relationships there seem to last or do people change partners a lot?

Thank you for your feedback!
(BTW, if you are not comfortable answering these questions on the forum, you can always send private messages to members, which are required to remain private, by Avalon rules.)






Some reports say that Damanhur is actually a dying commune, due to the isolationistic tendencies and because every newcomer is treated with utmost reservedness. No babies are born there,
and the people who stay , stay mainly because they are trapped there by poor economy. It´s a dismal place. Don´t get fooled by the pretty artwork.

I won't try to convince anyone of whether or not Damanhur is a cult, that is a decision that each person has to make for his/herself. The only thing I would like to comment on are incorrect statements. Babies are born at Damanhur all the time. There were two births in the last month and several mothers are expecting.

As for being isolated, most Damanhurians can be found online and travel regularly for work and/or pleasure. To give you an example, in my nucleo home alone, last week one couple and their son went to Sicily to visit their family, one woman went to Sicily to commemorate the passing of her grandfather, one woman is in Spain visiting her family and friends and I spent the weekend at the beach with a friend to celebrate my birthday. This is in one nucleo community house that has 23 adults and children (all the children were born here). We have a little under 30 nucleos spread across the valley.

[delfine]

Some reports say that Damanhur is actually a dying commune, due to the isolationistic tendencies and because every newcomer is treated with utmost reservedness. No babies are born there,
and the people who stay , stay mainly because they are trapped there by poor economy. It´s a dismal place. Don´t get fooled by the pretty artwork.

I won't try to convince anyone of whether or not Damanhur is a cult, that is a decision that each person has to make for his/herself. The only thing I would like to comment on are incorrect statements. Babies are born at Damanhur all the time. There were two births in the last month and several mothers are expecting.

As for being isolated, most Damanhurians can be found online and travel regularly for work and/or pleasure. To give you an example, in my nucleo home alone, last week one couple and their son went to Sicily to visit their family, one woman went to Sicily to commemorate the passing of her grandfather, one woman is in Spain visiting her family and friends and I spent the weekend at the beach with a friend to celebrate my birthday. This is in one nucleo community house that has 23 adults and children (all the children were born here). We have a little under 30 nucleos spread across the valley.

I´ll admit that my knowledge of Damanhur is not firsthand. But the testimonies of the "apostates" are not at all pretty. If only half of it is true, it´s enough to repel me:
http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/the-other-face-of-damanhur/chapter-4-the-secret-of-the-viaggio/

[efields]

I was heartbroken to hear all the cult etc... I too had much hope for the project..

[onawah]

I just saw this on a Crop Circle website, that there are crop circles appearing in Italy now.
Have there been any near Damanhur?

It looks like there are crop circles occurring all over Italy (Sicily, Sardinia, Northern Italy) and here near Rome. Marina Sassi sent this new posting into us. Marina's text - 'A new formation reported by Luis Luce at Anguillara Sabazia - Rome - Italy . It was discovered on May 8 2012. This is a good video that shows nice aerial views of the formation, expecially at 11:23, where all the entire field is clearly visible . Many thanks to Luis Luce's Blog, Italia Zone Tv and the Club Arrow.' Also thanks to you Marina for keeping us up to date on the Italian situation. This video is in Italian but the visuals give you a pretty good idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUMhvNOE1Ak&feature=player_embedded#!
kUMhvNOE1Ak

[RMorgan]

I´ll admit that my knowledge of Damanhur is not firsthand. But the testimonies of the "apostates" are not at all pretty. If only half of it is true, it´s enough to repel me:
http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/the-other-face-of-damanhur/chapter-4-the-secret-of-the-viaggio/


Thanks Delfine,

These are great links and I´m very interested in listening to yvettesoler´s explanations about that.

The many comments bellow the articles also confirm this atrocity.

Cheers,

Raf.

[yvettesoler]

Hi Yvette,
I am glad to see you are still here on Avalon.
I noticed you did not address this statement by one of the members here:
"The leader has created an autocratic regime for himself, with obedient followers (slaves) who work unpaid + he has sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. (The old cult-leader story)."
I have some experience with intentional and spiritual communities and I know that there is indeed, unfortunately, often a core of sexual dysfunction, particularly when there is one charismatic leader.
So that would indeed be something that would concern me, were I considering visiting or becoming a member of Damanhur.


For some reason, I don't get email notifications from Avalon, and since there is so much activity here, I sometimes lose the threads. I will try to be more attentive. :)

I didn't reply to that specific comment because I couldn't figure what exactly to say. If you come here, you would quickly realize how inaccurate it is. The comment refers to Falco, the main founder of the community. Today, the social aspects of the community are run by the King Guides, three people that are elected every six months to manage the day-to-day workings of the community. The spiritual side is managed by the School of Meditation, of which there is one main contact and many instructors and paths involved in the day-to-day. There are also two other pillars of Damanhurian life, the Game of Life and the Tecnarcato, one to keep life fun and spontaneous (be prepared for anything) and the other for inner refinement. Add to this the College of Justice, the fact that each nucleo home has a representative and that several nucleos make up a region which has a captain, and our constitution and you can see why the idea of one leader who has autocratic regime is not possible.

As for unpaid work... one of the basic tenets of citizenship is that you have to be able to sustain yourself economically. That means that all of us have some type of work, either inside or outside of the community. Of course we do things that are unpaid, but given that I come from a background working in the corporate start-up world, I think there are always a few things you do unpaid for the good of the company. In this case, we are talking about devotional hours, the max of which is between 24 and 30 a month. They are hours we put in to build the community. They can only be used for things that benefit all of Damanhur, a bond that ties us all together. Given how many hours of un-paid overtime I did in the corporate world, 24 to 30 a month doesn't really seem like that much to me.

Addressing the sexual relations, here is what I know to be fact: I have never had sex with him nor have any of my closest friends, and I think we are some of the prettiest girls around. ;) In all seriousness, no, Falco does not have sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. In the constitution, it states that relationships should be consenting and healthy. Beyond that, people can create any type of relationship they want. We have esoteric couples (closed, magical relationships between two people), open and closed couples, trios, quads... as long as there is transparency and respect, you can create a relationship that works for you.




I am very curious about the selfic healing.
I think I asked this before, but I can't remember now what your reply was.
Do you use crystals with the selfic methods of healing? It doesn't appear that they are a major component, if you do.
I sent you a link before about a website that has a lot of information about crystals and how they were used in Atlantis
The link is http://earth-keeper.com/
Did you ever investigate that info, and if so, what were your impressions?

I think that crystals were used a lot in Atlantis, both for healing and for energy grids.
Are some of your members astral traveling there to learn about Atlantean technology and healing methods?
Other questions are: what are the views at Damanhur on ET/EDs (extra terrestrial and extra dimensional) beings present at this time on the planet, and does Damanhur have any direct communication or interactions with ETs?
Is Damanhur affiliated with any other organizations or teachings and what is the background of your founder?
Is he married, has be been married more than once, and does he have children?
Are there many married couples at Damanhur, and do relationships there seem to last or do people change partners a lot?

Thank you for your feedback!
(BTW, if you are not comfortable answering these questions on the forum, you can always send private messages to members, which are required to remain private, by Avalon rules.)


I did investigate the website, thank you again for the link. I found it fascinating! I am a crystal user myself, so I love expanding my knowledge.
Damanhur does not use many crystals in selfic healing. There are some strategically placed in the devices, but the base are the spirals and different types of metals and/or metallic paint. Spirals and metals... there is a deep connected with the Earth through these, which strengthens the connections with the Selfs.

There are many members of Damanhur that connect to Atlantean energy and technology. It is our connection to Atlantis that has enabled us to expand our knowledge in various fields of research, including Esoteric Physics, the Music of the Plants and Selfic Healing.

The simple answer to ET/EDs is yes. We are in constant contact with many different beings, including spirits of nature and beings from other planets. We have published two illustrated books called The Story of Damanhur, the Trunk of Memories and Checkmate in Time. The second one tells the story of the Galactic Battle in which Humanity (which means all beings with human souls, which are not all from this planet) lost all its abilities. It gives a little taste of all the beings Damanhur is in contact with. You can find Checkmate in Time within the book: The Traveler's Guide to Damanhur: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/travelers-guide-to-damanhur-the-esperide-ananas/1009275500

Damanhur is affiliated with many other organizations. We are a member of GEN, the Global EcoVillage Network. We work closely with many different communities, often sharing knowledge and best practices. Personally, I am a teacher of Kabbalah and Sacred Geometry. I use this knowledge in conjunction with Esoteric Physics to deepen my knowledge and fill my spiritual toolbox with new tools to use in daily life.

I am assuming that when you ask about "he", you are referring back to Falco again. Falco has a long term partner. He has three children, one of which is young and lives in the community. As I said before, we have many different kinds of couples here. We have two types of marriage (regular and Esoteric, as mentioned above), and both must be renewed on a yearly basis. We do this so that you take time every year to evaluate the relationship and choose whether or not to stay in it. A renewal ceremony, in my opinion, is more beautiful than the original marriage, because it symbolizes the desire to continue in the relationship even after the honeymoon period is over. I would say that in my experience here, relationships are generally healthier than in the outside world because there is no pressure to stay together. Staying together is a choice, and if the relationship is not working, you can choose to walk away with no concern about judgement or prejudice.

I don't mind answering the questions in the forum. I believe in transparency, for myself and the community. ;)

We are definitely not perfect, and sometimes we are a ways away from the ideal we wish to live, but there is one constant at Damanhur: CHANGE! If you don't like something, there is always the opportunity to change, to evolve, to make it better than it was yesterday. There are people here that you think, "Seriously, you live in a spiritual community and you just did that?", but then you take a step back and think about where they came from, what background have they had to overcome, what are the challenges life has handed them... and it is there that you realize how much our community is growing. It is in those moments that you realize that we are a large family, complete with the good and the bad. I don't like everyone here, but I love them and I am by their sides in this cosmic battle. This is why I chose to live here. And if there will ever come a day when I don't feel this anymore, I can leave the community, without fear, judgement or prejudice from either side. Trust me, it is easy to leave Damanhur, the hard part is getting in and staying. :)

[yvettesoler]

I´ll admit that my knowledge of Damanhur is not firsthand. But the testimonies of the "apostates" are not at all pretty. If only half of it is true, it´s enough to repel me:
http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.damanhurinsideout.wordpress.com/the-other-face-of-damanhur/chapter-4-the-secret-of-the-viaggio/


Thanks Delfine,

These are great links and I´m very interested in listening to yvettesoler´s explanations about that.

The many comments bellow the articles also confirm this atrocity.

Cheers,

Raf.


I can understand the skepticism when you read that website. It is one website started by two ex-Damanhurian founders and there is one, maybe two more, than comment regularly. The thing that I find interesting about it is that it is the only website of its kind. In 37 years of existence, there are less than a handful of people that want to spread this type of negativity about us, and most of their comments are fueled by economic issues. There is one other person that has taken some information from that website and created a mini-website on similar themes. Usually, when there is widespread cult-like behavior, there are tons of websites that spring up all over the place with allegations and accusations (the beauty of the internet is that whistle-blowers can have a voice). If you do a search on Damanhur, most of the cult-like comments go back to this one site.

If you would like to know more about Damanhur from ex-Damanhurians and Damanhurians, talk to them. As I said, many are online. There are also many websites from people that have lived here for periods of time, including blogs by people that are part of New Life. New Life is a program where a person can live in Damanhur as a temporary citizen for three months. It was started about a year ago and is open to everyone. As a New Lifer, you do everything we do: live in a nucleo, learn about the community, attend community meetings, work with us on the territories, and so on. Here is the section of the blog that talks about this: http://www.damanhurblog.com/category/new-life/. If you would like links to blogs by New Life people themselves, or other articles about Damanhur, let me know.

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I just saw this on a Crop Circle website, that there are crop circles appearing in Italy now.
Have there been any near Damanhur?
[QUOTE]It looks like there are crop circles occurring all over Italy (Sicily, Sardinia, Northern Italy) and here near Rome. Marina Sassi sent this new posting into us. Marina's text - 'A new formation reported by Luis Luce at Anguillara Sabazia - Rome - Italy . It was discovered on May 8 2012. This is a good video that shows nice aerial views of the formation, expecially at 11:23, where all the entire field is clearly visible . Many thanks to Luis Luce's Blog, Italia Zone Tv and the Club Arrow.' Also thanks to you Marina for keeping us up to date on the Italian situation. This video is in Italian but the visuals give you a pretty good idea.


Booo..... I have yet to see a crop circle here. I WANT TO !!! I am going to ask people around here to see if there have been any nearby. :)

[sdv]

there is indeed, unfortunately, often a core of sexual dysfunction

I am opening a hornet's nest here, but the sexual dysfunction is perhaps in our society, in the denial and regulating and suppressing of our sexuality.


I sent you a link before about a website that has a lot of information about crystals and how they were used in Atlantis
The link is http://earth-keeper.com/

Many thanks for this link. Did you know that a Japanese scientists did experiments to reproduce conditions in the core of the earth and he produced crystals! It seems that the core of the earth is a forest of crystals. I have been unhealthy for a long time now and it is synchronistic that through this thread I am being led back to the work that I need to be doing for me - crystals and full moon and being in nature more (I see it every day but am not being in it).

I used to use the full moon as an oracle, or a symbol of connecting to universal forces that resonate with me. Discovering about the Oracle at Damanhur has reminded me of that ...

[yvettesoler]

there is indeed, unfortunately, often a core of sexual dysfunction

I am opening a hornet's nest here, but the sexual dysfunction is perhaps in our society, in the denial and regulating and suppressing of our sexuality.



I was thinking about this the other day. I remember years ago reading an amazing series of books called Wraeththu in which this new race of humanity uses sex for more than just pleasure, it is also a portal for creation. It was beautiful and magical.... it made me think about how some of my most amazing lovers were people in which I was actively creating something with. When the creation was over, so was our sexual relationship, but the friendship, and often times business partnership, continued. Luckily, I have created a reality where I can actively talk about these things, but for many people the idea of sex being an extension of creation, i.e. magical, is hard to understand. They read about it in books and think it is beautiful, but they can't imagine it in the physical.

I think your comment was right now, our dysfunction is in denying that sex is an integral part of who we are. At Damanhur, we have several spiritual paths: core studies to go deepen your spiritual experience. One of them is the Way of the Monks, in which you create a spiritual container within yourself. Monks, male and female, abstain from sex, but not as a denial of their sexuality, instead to harness that energy and put it somewhere else. People who follow other paths can be monks once a week, where they eat at specific times and refrain from meat and sexual contact for 24 hours in order to harness energy. I think it is fascinating to feel your energy in different ways, including through positive sexual creation and abstaining.





Did you know that a Japanese scientists did experiments to reproduce conditions in the core of the earth and he produced crystals! It seems that the core of the earth is a forest of crystals. I have been unhealthy for a long time now and it is synchronistic that through this thread I am being led back to the work that I need to be doing for me - crystals and full moon and being in nature more (I see it every day but am not being in it).

I used to use the full moon as an oracle, or a symbol of connecting to universal forces that resonate with me. Discovering about the Oracle at Damanhur has reminded me of that ...

Yea for synchronistic inspiration!!!!!

[onawah]

Thanks for the info, Yvette. I feel reassured that Damanhur is what I actually felt it probably was all along, which is evolving, functional and quite remarkable, though of course, not perfect.
This world is so ready for something like Damanhur, so it doesn't surprise me that it has actually materialized.
(If I were a lot younger, I would probably be trying to find some way to get there.)

I'm glad you and sdv like the earth_keeper.com site, which I have been finding one of the most interesting on the Net.
Yvonne, I see you are into Esoteric Physics. You are probably familiar with Nassim Haramein... I am a big fan of his work.

Are there any channelers at Damanhur who publish their communications with ET/EDs online?
It appears to me that we are going to require quite a lot of assistance from them (ET/EDs) if the Fukushina and other nuclear facilities around the planet are going to be cleaned up and closed down, so I am interested in hearing any feedback on this kind of subject from genuine channelers.
There are a lot of psychics and channelers out there, but I think the really attuned ones are rare and hard to find.
I would imagine if, like the original group that channeled the RA Material, there are people at Damanhur working on getting the clearest information possible through channeling, the results would certainly be better than average.
Thanks again for the feedback!


[QUOTE=onawah;488318]

For some reason, I don't get email notifications from Avalon, and since there is so much activity here, I sometimes lose the threads. I will try to be more attentive. :)

I didn't reply to that specific comment because I couldn't figure what exactly to say. If you come here, you would quickly realize how inaccurate it is. The comment refers to Falco, the main founder of the community. Today, the social aspects of the community are run by the King Guides, three people that are elected every six months to manage the day-to-day workings of the community. The spiritual side is managed by the School of Meditation, of which there is one main contact and many instructors and paths involved in the day-to-day. There are also two other pillars of Damanhurian life, the Game of Life and the Tecnarcato, one to keep life fun and spontaneous (be prepared for anything) and the other for inner refinement. Add to this the College of Justice, the fact that each nucleo home has a representative and that several nucleos make up a region which has a captain, and our constitution and you can see why the idea of one leader who has autocratic regime is not possible.

As for unpaid work... one of the basic tenets of citizenship is that you have to be able to sustain yourself economically. That means that all of us have some type of work, either inside or outside of the community. Of course we do things that are unpaid, but given that I come from a background working in the corporate start-up world, I think there are always a few things you do unpaid for the good of the company. In this case, we are talking about devotional hours, the max of which is between 24 and 30 a month. They are hours we put in to build the community. They can only be used for things that benefit all of Damanhur, a bond that ties us all together. Given how many hours of un-paid overtime I did in the corporate world, 24 to 30 a month doesn't really seem like that much to me.

Addressing the sexual relations, here is what I know to be fact: I have never had sex with him nor have any of my closest friends, and I think we are some of the prettiest girls around. ;) In all seriousness, no, Falco does not have sexual relations with all the young and pretty girls. In the constitution, it states that relationships should be consenting and healthy. Beyond that, people can create any type of relationship they want. We have esoteric couples (closed, magical relationships between two people), open and closed couples, trios, quads... as long as there is transparency and respect, you can create a relationship that works for you.

I did investigate the website, thank you again for the link. I found it fascinating! I am a crystal user myself, so I love expanding my knowledge.
Damanhur does not use many crystals in selfic healing. There are some strategically placed in the devices, but the base are the spirals and different types of metals and/or metallic paint. Spirals and metals... there is a deep connected with the Earth through these, which strengthens the connections with the Selfs.

There are many members of Damanhur that connect to Atlantean energy and technology. It is our connection to Atlantis that has enabled us to expand our knowledge in various fields of research, including Esoteric Physics, the Music of the Plants and Selfic Healing.

The simple answer to ET/EDs is yes. We are in constant contact with many different beings, including spirits of nature and beings from other planets. We have published two illustrated books called The Story of Damanhur, the Trunk of Memories and Checkmate in Time. The second one tells the story of the Galactic Battle in which Humanity (which means all beings with human souls, which are not all from this planet) lost all its abilities. It gives a little taste of all the beings Damanhur is in contact with. You can find Checkmate in Time within the book: The Traveler's Guide to Damanhur: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/travelers-guide-to-damanhur-the-esperide-ananas/1009275500

Damanhur is affiliated with many other organizations. We are a member of GEN, the Global EcoVillage Network. We work closely with many different communities, often sharing knowledge and best practices. Personally, I am a teacher of Kabbalah and Sacred Geometry. I use this knowledge in conjunction with Esoteric Physics to deepen my knowledge and fill my spiritual toolbox with new tools to use in daily life.

I am assuming that when you ask about "he", you are referring back to Falco again. Falco has a long term partner. He has three children, one of which is young and lives in the community. As I said before, we have many different kinds of couples here. We have two types of marriage (regular and Esoteric, as mentioned above), and both must be renewed on a yearly basis. We do this so that you take time every year to evaluate the relationship and choose whether or not to stay in it. A renewal ceremony, in my opinion, is more beautiful than the original marriage, because it symbolizes the desire to continue in the relationship even after the honeymoon period is over. I would say that in my experience here, relationships are generally healthier than in the outside world because there is no pressure to stay together. Staying together is a choice, and if the relationship is not working, you can choose to walk away with no concern about judgement or prejudice.

I don't mind answering the questions in the forum. I believe in transparency, for myself and the community. ;)

We are definitely not perfect, and sometimes we are a ways away from the ideal we wish to live, but there is one constant at Damanhur: CHANGE! If you don't like something, there is always the opportunity to change, to evolve, to make it better than it was yesterday. There are people here that you think, "Seriously, you live in a spiritual community and you just did that?", but then you take a step back and think about where they came from, what background have they had to overcome, what are the challenges life has handed them... and it is there that you realize how much our community is growing. It is in those moments that you realize that we are a large family, complete with the good and the bad. I don't like everyone here, but I love them and I am by their sides in this cosmic battle. This is why I chose to live here. And if there will ever come a day when I don't feel this anymore, I can leave the community, without fear, judgement or prejudice from either side. Trust me, it is easy to leave Damanhur, the hard part is getting in and staying. :)

[onawah]

If you join the Facebook page for Crop Circles-UFO's-Ancient Mysteries-Scientific Speculations and ask for info about crop circles in Italy, you would probably get some feedback.


Booo..... I have yet to see a crop circle here. I WANT TO !!! I am going to ask people around here to see if there have been any nearby. :)

[yvettesoler]

Thanks for the info, Yvette. I feel reassured that Damanhur is what I actually felt it probably was all along, which is evolving, functional and quite remarkable, though of course, not perfect.
This world is so ready for something like Damanhur, so it doesn't surprise me that it has actually materialized.
(If I were a lot younger, I would probably be trying to find some way to get there.)



Why younger?? We have people of all ages here, from newborns all the way up to people in their 90s! I love seeing New Life people arrive that are over 50! In my house, we have five new citizens in training, four of which came in through the New Life program, ages: 25, 38, 40, 51, 63





I'm glad you and sdv like the earth_keeper.com site, which I have been finding one of the most interesting on the Net.
Yvonne, I see you are into Esoteric Physics. You are probably familiar with Nassim Haramein... I am a big fan of his work.


Big fan of Nassim Haramein! His work requires a lifetime of study to follow, which is one reason I love it. I like going from the extremely esoteric and down into the more scientific. Which reminds me, I need to finish the new Sacred Geometry book I received from Karen French!



Are there any channelers at Damanhur who publish their communications with ET/EDs online?
It appears to me that we are going to require quite a lot of assistance from them (ET/EDs) if the Fukushina and other nuclear facilities around the planet are going to be cleaned up and closed down, so I am interested in hearing any feedback on this kind of subject from genuine channelers.
There are a lot of psychics and channelers out there, but I think the really attuned ones are rare and hard to find.
I would imagine if, like the original group that channeled the RA Material, there are people at Damanhur working on getting the clearest information possible through channeling, the results would certainly be better than average.
Thanks again for the feedback!


We only publish the monthly response from the Oracle of Damanhur: http://www.damanhurblog.com/category/damanhur-oracle/, since this is specifically channeled for the Spiritual People.
I once asked the head of the PR office why we don't publish more about the work we are doing and she said that most of our worldwide healing/magical work is woven into the daily lives and rituals of all initiates, therefore there it would be hard to publish little comments. Instead of waiting for disasters, we are constantly scanning and transmitting via the synchronic lines, varying the events of the week to respond to the current climate. All students of the School of Meditation meet weekly in groups by grade and also in groups dedicated to their paths. The "lessons" alter slightly based on what is happening in the Universe and how/if we should offer assistance. Life mixes into work mixes into art mixes into magic mixes into mission mixes into play mixes into growth mixes into solidarity...

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If you join the Facebook page for Crop Circles-UFO's-Ancient Mysteries-Scientific Speculations and ask for info about crop circles in Italy, you would probable get some feedback.


Booo..... I have yet to see a crop circle here. I WANT TO !!! I am going to ask people around here to see if there have been any nearby. :)

Found it! Thanks

[Anchor]

http://xkcd.com/1063/

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/kill_hitler.png

Authors comment: "Revised directive: It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history, until you have at least taken a class on it"

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I apologize if this isnt found to be funny, but it totally cracked me up and I wanted to share...

Actually time is a big joke innit :)

[mosquito]

Cracked me up too !!!!!

Just goes to show, you need to be veeeery specific in making requests !!!!

[onawah]

Following is an excerpt from Tyberonn's latest channeled message,
Time, Space, Time-Travel & Teleportation
& Happy Endings"
Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn
August, 2012
From:
http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_75.htm

Inasmuch as Tyberonn foretells that "the Ascension of the critical mass of Humanity will occur in 15 generations", I find his messages much more believable than the run of the mill channelers...


Far more effort than you can imagine has been placed in the graduation of the Earth leading to the Ascension. The Ascension of the Earth will occur on the 12-12-12, and the Ascension of the critical mass of Humanity will occur in 15 generations. We tell you there have been envoys from the future than have come back in various time epoch holograms to insure this. Some of these would be shocking to you. But we tell you the defeat of the Spanish Armada (carrying the Inquisition) , and indeed the defeat of Nazi Germany were two such events that were influenced to their outcome by 'back from the future' envoys.(Both groups were of the core energy of the Aryan Sons of Belial of Atlantis). Had the two referenced outcomes not been influenced, the planet could have taken a vastly different path.

Indeed some of you are among these envoys now. Many are among the metaphysical groups. Indeed some of these are scientists,(including Nicole Tesla & Albert Einstein) , others are artists & writers including Stanley Clarke. They , like you, take on the filters of duality, and were not frontally aware of this truth.

Your science fiction writers in movies and television, specifically 'Contact' and 'Star-Trek' were on the right track in terms of teleportation. But keep in mind that select time-travel and teleportation are not the same thing. If you consider that in the Earthplane you are seemingly fixed in linear time and able to move about in space, then the opposite would occur at a specific Torus effect flip into parallel , where you would be somewhat 'fixed' in space and able to move about in time.

Multidimensional Aspect of 12-12-12

In 2012, precisely on the 12-12-12 your Earthplane ascends into 12 dimensions. It is the Crystalline coherency transformation. Creativity will be amplified, and for many of you, the arc swing of duality will be lessened exponentially. This means multidimensional access is enhanced. But it does not mean 3d duality will disappear.

The 'human' Earthplane experience in duality is a credentialed and honored learning process though which many varied Beings of Divine intelligence travel. Before you are 'allowed' by your higher-self into multi-dimensional and parallel systems of reality that are far more complex, vastly more extensive and open, you must first learn to optimally and responsibly master thought-creation energy. You are in the University of Earth for that purpose...to see firsthand, through physical materialization, the concrete result of your thoughts and emotions.

That is precisely why Time & Space are purposed illusions, and this vivid 'mirage' is so potently programmed by the Divine-Self that you, by necessity, must focus your outer senses on the University of Duality, that termed physical reality. Such 'linear' focus then is engineered, the perception filters that seem to block multi-dimensionality are beneficial in allowing humanity to face and grow through Earthplane experience. When the growth achieves a certain advanced level of 'light-quotient' then, and only then, do you choose to open & bridge into more expansive multi-dimensional perception. That is what 2012 is about !
Read the rest at:
http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_75.htm

[WhiteFeather]

" you must first learn to optimally and responsibly master thought-creation energy. You are in the University of Earth for that purpose...to see firsthand, through physical materialization, the concrete result of your thoughts and emotions."

Makes sense as to why we are here and to what purpose. The University of Planet Earth. Learning about mastering of energies and consciousness. What we think we become. And Coincidentally, Listen to what Dolores Cannon speaks of around the 4:00 minute mark in her latest video below. Fits the thread perfectly IMO.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IKoS6Vzyvg&feature=player_embedded

[ghostrider]

For those who don't believe time travel is possible, bear with me. You woke this morning, in the now. You travelled to the future/afternoon, remembering the morning/the past, you travel to the evening/the future , and the next day you remember the day before , the past right. Everyday we are in the past, present, and always moving to the future. If the earth did not rotate, and the sun stayed at the 9'oclock position forever , what day would it be ? It would always be now. Everyday is the same day only our perception changes. Most already got this, but I always looked at time linear, point a to point b . Remove the earth's rotation and the game changes. Time is an illusion. I would very much like to pick the minds of any interested about time travel, the key to our future is our perceptions and experiences , they must be shared for growth. I've been thinking about this for a couple weeks it won't leave my mind. I don't like to start threads but this one requires action from me. I want it out of my mind and settled. anyone ??

[KosmicKat]

I will gladly contribute whatever I can. I used to spend a lot of time trying to get my late father to understand that time is more than just our perception of it because of the chemical processes in the body. He was unable to imagine the possibility that the flow of time might be interrupted without our ever being aware of it simply because of our dependence upon its effects on the physical world we inhabit.

One of the most interesting, and at the same time perplexing views of time which I have encountered is derived from the "Law of One" series of channeled material; that our three-dimensional space and one-dimensional time are mirrored by one-dimensional space and three-dimensional time. Like a flatlander, I can conceive of travelling backward and forward along a single dimension, but the other dimensions?

[Magnus]

Everyday is the same day only our perception changes

Our metaphysical existence here and now, is of course a result of ever morphing parameters for the reference points wich consolidates our interconnected physical and spiritual reality in "the now".

If there is cause and effect and "the now" are the effect, then we're safe to assume that there indeed is a cause...

[CdnSirian]

I think many of us sense our fluidity in a plastic time hologram. Our brains are set up to keep us focused here enough to get things done in the linear time continuum, but the linear is just one aspect of time, or our perception of it. Hard to describe!

[rgray222]

I believe that the confusing part of understanding time is that we are confronted with two truths at the same time. This is a very confusing thing to try to understand because you are so sure that each one is right but your thought process says there can only be one right way. What I am attempting to say is that we are a soul having a human experience. The human needs mark time, the human needs to judge things in time, time for work, time to get up, time to rest, time to eat, time to take action, etc.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RMAeSDKL2MQ/UBs3Kh1haDI/AAAAAAAAHCM/RUlMXqmCkyw/s200/Alien%2520see%2520through%2520with%2520stars.jpg

The soul on the other hand does not need to mark time in the human sense. The soul is temporarily in the body to gain a new experience, to grow and to expand our level of consciousness. There may be some form of time the soul understands but it certainly is not marked by human time. It is a bit easier to understand (at least for me) when you think of it as................we are a soul having a human experience, not humans having a soul experience. It is very easy to understand for a fleeting moment but very hard to imprint on your human brain to retain that knowledge.

I honestly believe it is in our collective DNA not to remember some of this information, it is some form of collective amnesia but when we start to break through this barrier we will all lift our level of the 'human consciousness'.

[bogeyman]

Time slips are also a more regular event than we believe. Many of us dont even think about these events. I have had a lot of usual encounters concerning time, but then what is the nature of time, it isnt the measurement of time as we know it.

Link re Time Slips:

http://www.parascience.org.uk/articles/time.htm

Time and Dimensional Travel:

http://paranormal.about.com/od/timeanddimensiontravel/Time_and_Dimension_Travel.htm

[ghostrider]

thanks everyone, time slips are occuring more frequently these days. Last week some things I looked at seem to go holographic like they were not real, I was seeing two but knowing there was only one. It was like I saw layers of things, hard to put into words, it came out of nowhere. The more I focused on it the more layers i saw and the more they waved back and forth together in sort of a harmony/vibration wave , I know it was real, my thinking brain says ooops that was nothing, my spiritual brain/soul said it was more real than the reality I think is real.

[ghostrider]

I think many of us sense our fluidity in a plastic time hologram. Our brains are set up to keep us focused here enough to get things done in the linear time continuum, but the linear is just one aspect of time, or our perception of it. Hard to describe!

exactly , you know it , but the how it works part is the puzzle. Nothing changes , just our perception of what we see or experience. Humans need to know how it works to accept it, if they don't understand it , it usually goes in file 13.(trash can) You know the ego part ( I'm a smart person, My gut tells me blah blah , if it doesn't make sense it can't be correct) mentality. The only way to get answers is ask questions. No one want to lower their ego and appear behind the curve, so sometimes the important questions never get asked. Understanding time travel is helpful, you see ahead and make adjustments now so when the future comes your standing on solid ground while others are sinking , Ingo swan talked of looking forward and they were successful at viewing a target that hadn't been picked yet.

[Fred Steeves]

One very interesting aspect of "time", is that it doesn't necessarily point in any one "direction". IMHO anyway, we're learning/relearning about this stuff on the fly, much like someone who "thinks" they can't swim being tossed into water. One tends to remember how these things work, when pushed to the point of no return.

[ghostrider]

One very interesting aspect of "time", is that it doesn't necessarily point in any one "direction". IMHO anyway, we're learning/relearning about this stuff on the fly, much like someone who "thinks" they can't swim being tossed into water. One tends to remember how these things work, when pushed to the point of no return.

I would agree, you believe you can swim , but when tossed in the water , faced with two choices sink or swim , after the experience you Know you can swim, not just believe. your first nine months of life is in water, you just forgot about it.

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my co-worker had a timeslip today, and felt it before it happened. time is changing the days are getting faster it seems. He said it was the moment before the I've done this before thing.

[Kano]

We all pretty much live our lives with the precept that by acting now we will somehow affect our future.

Something I have always found fascinating about this same model of time is that there is no distinction that would eliminate the possibility that by acting now we can also affect our past.

That one has always fried my noodle when I think about what it could mean.

Time! What a fascinating topic!

[ghostrider]

we are from the past, each revolution of the earth we move to the future, but really nothing changed , it's still yesterday today. flying or driving across time zones you move back and forth in time. freaky.

[Aaron Scharmer]

Thank you ghostrider for your topic. I love thinking about the many ideas related to time travel. Perhaps a fun thing to do is think about what it would be like a dimension higher where time collapses from a line (point A to point B) to simply a point. One point, where all time is now. In my research I'm starting to suspect this is what is going on when people like Dr. Courtney Brown's remote viewers describe, not predict, the future using a temporal out bounder.

Anyone into Brown's work? Lately it has become something of an obsession.

[ExomatrixTV]

sFBaalzVYSg

~Unslave Humanity Tactical Media: http://whynotnews.eu/?p=1836 ~credits video: http://youtube.com/AlienScientist - Response to Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory Season 3 episodes on Time Travel and The Steven Huff mansion in the Ozark Mountains.

Polarizable-Vacuum (PV) representation of general relativity:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/9909/9909037.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_Dyson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

[GoodETxSG]

Concepts/Theories that I haven't seen in a while... nothing is new in this world, just rediscovered.

[sandy]

Couldn't agree more John,

If we all, indivdually founds what we could do in our corner of the world and concentrated on not playing the game or facilitating the gaming events, the players would have to find a new game in town or join gambles anonymous :)

[TrumanCash]

In my research I have found the "gods" of Sumeria, the Illu, are actually ETs who can travel through time in their "flying disks". This same group of ETs appear all over the planet through many thousands of years in different places. They inculcate the populace of each region with a different religion and a secret society. I cover this subject in detail in THE EYE OF RA.

[Bryston]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeORyW5XHMI

[Mulder]

I didn't enjoy this video. He mainly repeats he's a "soft person" who couldn't survive in the 1920s and he wishes he went back in time to earlier in the day to avoid problems walking around. Maybe someone can explain the point of it as I felt there was none.

[Bryston]

Sorry Mulder

Just like this blokes personality, was not trying to post anything profound. Just thought it would be nice to listen to a nice person talking. No offense intended.

[ExomatrixTV]

Ali Razeghi, a Tehran scientist has registered "The Aryayek Time Traveling Machine" with the state-run Centre for Strategic Inventions.

The device can predict the future in a print out after taking readings from the touch of a user, he told the Fars state news-agency.

Razaeghi, 27, said the device worked by a set of complex algorithms to "predict five to eight years of the future life of any individual, with 98 percent accuracy".

As the managing director of Iran's (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran) Centre for Strategic Inventions, Razeghi is a serial inventor with 179 other inventions listed under his own name. "I have been working on this project for the last 10 years," he said.

"My invention easily fits into the size of a personal computer case and can predict details of the next 5-8 years of the life of its users. It will not take you into the future, it will bring the future to you."

Razeghi says Iran's government can predict the possibility of a military confrontation with a foreign country, and forecast the fluctuation in the value of foreign currencies and oil prices by using his new invention.

"Naturally a government that can see five years into the future would be able to prepare itself for challenges that might destabilize it," he said. "As such we expect to market this invention among states as well as individuals once we reach a mass production stage."

Razeghi said his latest project has been criticized by friends and relatives for "trying to play God" with ordinary lives and history. "This project is not against our religious values at all. The Americans are trying to make this invention by spending millions of dollars on it where I have already achieved it by a fraction of the cost," he said. "The reason that we are not launching our prototype at this stage is that the Chinese will steal the idea and produce it in millions overnight."

~source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html

[Lifebringer]

Yeahhhh...for the world and our children's future. There would be no need for wars if everyone can see who's plotting. Bien, Wunderva, Great, Bueno!

[ExomatrixTV]

We all can co-create an alternative time-line that can be of service to ALL time-lines! google multiverse & parallel universes !

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse :chess:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse)

[Azt]

Just for a relax friday mood...

23355

[Flash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C50NGCe2dbU