Life before Life?

[Abductee S]

Ok I'm confused and curious what others think on this - in the New Message teachings it says that we are born from a life into this life and will return to a life when we leave this world.

I have always wondered about what happens after death, but never thought about what was before I was born into the world.

Any thoughts on this???

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

I guess it´s the same thing, like a circle:

place x > life > place x*

* "place x" is a general name for the place where you were before you were born and where you´ll go after you´re dead.

So, where do we go after we die? Where were we before we are born?

IMO, in either situations, you go to the same place.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Abductee S]

Hey mate,

I guess it´s the same thing, like a circle:

place x > life > place x*

* "place x" is a general name for the place where you were before you were born and where you´ll go after you´re dead.

So, where do we go after we die? Where were we before we are born?

IMO, in either situations, you go to the same place.

Cheers,

Raf.

Yes, that makes sense, but do we keep going around the circle? If we do, when do we stop and what happens next?

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

I guess it´s the same thing, like a circle:

place x > life > place x*

* "place x" is a general name for the place where you were before you were born and where you´ll go after you´re dead.

So, where do we go after we die? Where were we before we are born?

IMO, in either situations, you go to the same place.

Cheers,

Raf.

Yes, that makes sense, but do we keep going around the circle? If we do, when do we stop and what happens next?

Hey mate,

I don't know more about it than you do. In fact, I don´t think any human knows more about this than us.

We could speculate about it, using religious beliefs or other personal convictions, but it would be all pure speculation.

Anyone who gives you an assertive answer to this question would be mistaken.

Maybe we come back as a different, more evolved life form and life cycle...

Maybe we´re already living at all those plans at the same time, but we can´t perceive them due our human limitations...

Maybe it´s just the way it is, for no specific reason...

Maybe there´s isn´t life or death or in-between; it´s all the same thing...

Maybe it doesn´t even matter...

This is the biggest fundamental question of humanity. No one has answered it with certainty so far, without using vague beliefs as a structure.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Abductee S]

Not that the explanation is right or wrong in this clip, but is the description of what happened worth considering? If this is what happens after death, is this what is before life also?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1942/566/Man_Dies%2c_Comes_Back_To_Life%2c_What_He_Saw.html

[Kristo]

Dr. Michael Newton was regressing his patients in order to help them overcome issues. He happened upon a patient who 'stopped' their regression to a point between lifetimes. This began his journey of studying only Life Between Life regressions. He has 3 books out. Interesting stuff. Dolores Cannon has been using this same technique to garner information long before Dr. Newton. All very insightful.

[RMorgan]

Not that the explanation is right or wrong in this clip, but is the description of what happened worth considering? If this is what happens after death, is this what is before life also?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1942/566/Man_Dies%2c_Comes_Back_To_Life%2c_What_He_Saw.html


This video is really nice. I´ve watched it before.

Well, who knows...There are so many variables involved.

Maybe the death experience can be individual and unique for each one of us...Maybe not.

The old Hindu teachings say that, when you die, you will meet whatever your beliefs are aligned at the moment of your death...So, a Christian might meet angels or even Jesus himself, in his own vision of heaven... A Muslin might have a different experience, adapted to his beliefs...A Satanist might meet Satan himself, the exact image of Satan he´s created along his life...

I think our mind can´t actually perceive what this experience really is, so maybe it adapts to make it easier for us to understand.

All I can say is...Who knows...

[PathWalker]

Here is a video about this subject you would probably be interested to watch.
It explains most of your questions.
It is a series of 5 x 10 min videos. Good stuff.
0QDT58Q6Zxo

[Abductee S]

Dr. Michael Newton was regressing his patients in order to help them overcome issues. He happened upon a patient who 'stopped' their regression to a point between lifetimes. This began his journey of studying only Life Between Life regressions. He has 3 books out. Interesting stuff. Dolores Cannon has been using this same technique to garner information long before Dr. Newton. All very insightful.

Thanks for the information. I have never heard of this, but will look into the sources you referenced.

It sounds like you have read these books? Can you give me a short explanation of what you found regarding life before/between life?

[Earth Angel]

Thanks Kristo, exactly what I was going to say..........I have done a PLR with a therapist trained in the methods of Michael Newton......wasn't quite as amazing as the books ! but it was interesting......I think we come back as long as we need/want to and then the are many other things to take up the rest of eternity!


Dr. Michael Newton was regressing his patients in order to help them overcome issues. He happened upon a patient who 'stopped' their regression to a point between lifetimes. This began his journey of studying only Life Between Life regressions. He has 3 books out. Interesting stuff. Dolores Cannon has been using this same technique to garner information long before Dr. Newton. All very insightful.

[Abductee S]

@PathWalker - wow! great video with Dr. Newton. I will definitely look into him more. Thanks.

[conk]

It seems the lawmakers in Arizona, USA know a lot about this subject. They are on the threshold of passing legislation that defines conception as TWO WEEKS BEFORE INTERCOURSE!!! Seriously friends. It's an attempt to reduce the window for abortions from the common 20 weeks, down to 18 weeks. So, somehow these brilliant lawmakers have a Source connnection that lets them in on the secret plans to place a particular soul in a certain body two weeks before it happens.

[Debra]

I´ve read 2 of Newton´s books already PathWalker. Really worth the investigation. I went from a curiosity in past lives - and discovered something much more important, the life we have between lives. That´s the place I now connect with, the rest is just history.



Here is a video about this subject you would probably be interested to watch.
It explains most of your questions.
It is a series of 5 x 10 min videos. Good stuff.
0QDT58Q6Zxo

[raweya]

So what does the "new message" say about life after or before life? Any one know?

[Abductee S]

I watched the 5 videos of Dr. Newton and was blown away! One thing that was interesting is that he seems to be recounting much of what his regressions brought out, not just an opinion by him. The notion of no hell and living lives to develop and advance ultimately returning to our source (God) is amazing. That we incarnate on other worlds too and have a spiritual group that we are bonded with and may incarnate with in different worlds. And much more.

This is almost identical with what I've read so far in the New Message work, except the NM covers so much more and actually talks about how our lives now are connected with the life before (our spirit life) and that we have a specific purpose here now that is given to us by our "spirit guides" or teachers in the life before we are born back into the physical. This certainly makes me think that what Dr. Newton is saying is true and what the NM is saying is true. I will definitely continue learning about what Dr. Newton has written and what the New Message is saying.

[danwa]

I like to believe we are pure energy and light. Energy and matter are one and the same, an electromagnetic wave vibrating at the frequencies we can perceive in this realm and far beyond. We are light vibrating at the frequency of matter. It is accepted that energy/matter can not be created or destroyed, it can and does transform into many states of existence, our current reality being the 3D material world we currently share. When we make the next transition, we will leave the material dimension and our energy, our soul and consciousness, will emerge at a frequency and wavelength beyond our current reality, beyond the bounds of matter, and into an existence we can not yet comprehend. Propagate your wave and you will amplify your energy and your light will forever shine.

[9eagle9]

A few years back (and maybe still occurring I've been out of range of the church door knockers for a bit) there was a huge lobbying/ petition action here in Michigan and Ohio for the 'rights of the pre-conceived child'. That would of course target ANY form of birth control, Pills,etc.

What rights does a child that has not been conceived yet have? You tell me. If you don't physically exist yet, anywhere, not even in-utero, how do attain does one attain physical rights?!!!

There's a one dimensional sort of spiritual primordial soup of spirit or etheric beingness that one senses that are spirits waiting. Waiting may be a bad term, they are 'just there'. Just being. We tend to assign values to things we don't understand and because something is hovering about we tend to think its waiting which implies time, which doesn't apply here. One notices their entrance into physical form so one makes the assumption they are waiting but who knows. When one says one dimensional one means it lacks mind and physical form. It's very dark to the human perception. Less a darkness than not being composed of any sort of definition but its often viewed as a sort of darkness therefore people with the ability to notice such things shun it. So its never examined very often. May be where the term purgatory came from although its not really. I wouldn't want to describe it as 'new' souls either but one clearly senses this is step of evolution and that evolution would involve coming into physical consciousness rather than spiritual awareness and assuming a physical form. They have a certain density to them, like remnants of consciouness that reminds me of a person that has lived before. One also senses they are returning to a dense incarnation to work out their own density they are carrying around in this sort of spiritual form. Like remnants of consciousness they are attempting to cast off. It's very interesting as one notices this is a sort of fragmentation and there is larger field of awareness attached to them that is off somewhere else. Like a fragment of persona coming in to do something.

Ive traced some of these fragments assuming they were non physical entities and realized some of them were dreaming. Living physical people and the were interacting in this place while asleep.

In observing this one observes these fragments interact with each other and nearly like one has an experience the others assume that experience and don't take physical form because they've had the experience there so don't come in here to have it. Dreaming other's dreams.

A friend of mine had a very difficult time with this as it feels like a field of darkness imposing on or pressing in on her what she felt was a psychic attack or an entity imposing on her but its not really singular--when she was able to put into perspective. It was the since of familiarity she had when she experienced it that unnerved her. When she eft'd or tapped on it she brought up that it reminded her of hell or purgatory and once she discarded the belief she was able to more clearly observe it for what it was. Or rather she didn't feel the need to label I guess you'd say.

Just part of the flow.




It seems the lawmakers in Arizona, USA know a lot about this subject. They are on the threshold of passing legislation that defines conception as TWO WEEKS BEFORE INTERCOURSE!!! Seriously friends. It's an attempt to reduce the window for abortions from the common 20 weeks, down to 18 weeks. So, somehow these brilliant lawmakers have a Source connnection that lets them in on the secret plans to place a particular soul in a certain body two weeks before it happens.

[Abductee S]

I'm feeling that if we have a life before our life here, then the idea of purpose and mission enter my thinking. What does that life before life mean to our lives here now? How do we come to realize that purpose that may have been given us there?

[PathWalker]

I'm feeling that if we have a life before our life here, then the idea of purpose and mission enter my thinking. What does that life before life mean to our lives here now? How do we come to realize that purpose that may have been given us there?


I suggest you watch the video above the answer is there.

[Abductee S]

I'm feeling that if we have a life before our life here, then the idea of purpose and mission enter my thinking. What does that life before life mean to our lives here now? How do we come to realize that purpose that may have been given us there?


I suggest you watch the video above the answer is there.

Thank you. Yes, I watched all of the videos with Dr. Newton and they were very insightful. I still feel that the answer is within me and connected to my life (in spirit form) before this life.

I have found a practice within the New Message that purports to bring one to this place of a "deeper knowing" within ourselves. It is said that there we will find our purpose as it had been given to us in the spirit form.

So here goes with it...

In the mean time, I'm still very interested in what other information is out there on this subject.