UFO filmed over Ipswich, Queensland - 12 April

[Debra]

Hi Avalonians,

A friend in Australia has just sent me this brand new video of a sighting over Ipswich, west of Brisbane that was shot in the last few hours by a close friend. You can hear him talking with others while he is filming.

Apparently, similar óbjects´have been seen in the area during the last 2 months.

We would love to hear what the minds on the Avalon Forum have to say.

Best wishes
Zebra

VK5-mHv_2yA

[tonton]

maybe they just slowed down so that they could be seen(light reflection).

[Debra]

Hi tonton,
can you expand on what you mean by (light reflection)?
thanks, Zebra


maybe they just slowed down so that they could be seen(light reflection).

[tonton]

was just a thought,Zebra.as the video talked about a port hole........ if something is traveling at the speed of light we would not be able to see it , the light cant catch up to it ,so if it slowed down we would .as it slowed down, i would imagine that it would look like a plasma type light mixing tones until it stabilized the reflection.we would see the craft and the light flashing around it ,at least for a little while, to me it could sorta look like a port hole.......just a thought.

[Debra]

Cool, that helps, thanks tonton.

If these objects have been around for about two months, I wonder if they have anything to do with the nearby Amberley airforce base? Just a thought. Ipswich was also very badly affected by the floods last year, a tent city I believe has grown in the region .. more thoughts. I meander, just wondering why these sightings have prevailed over the last few months in this particular area?

[mojo]

Ty for posting & it's an interesting video. Is there any other information provided by your friend that you can share such as his observations? thanks again...

[Debra]

Good question mojo. Nothing more about the observation itself but I will ask. My friend emailed a short while ago and says the guy is very keen to find out more, to understand what he has witnessed and documented.

He wrote: '' he will be very interested in what your friends have to say! We recently, out of the blue so to speak, had a long conversation about such things. It appears that his headspace has very much been "reached" in that mysterious and sometimes all-encompassing way with which we are both familiar! Send me the low-down and I'll pass it on.''


So mojo, it sounds like he has been having some other experiences that might be connected. Sounds also like this is all very recent for him as well. At least consciously.

I'll keep on it and update when I can get some more information.

Thanks,
Zebra

[Cjay]

That's a very interesting video. I would love to see some more videos if your friend sees the objects again.

It's a shame your friend doesn't have a tripod. Even a tiny $5 tripod would make a huge difference.

I live near Melbourne and I frequently see similar objects. With the naked eye, they appear like a star rapidly changing colours - mostly white, blue, red, white, blue, red. With binoculars, it is obvious they are not a stars. Unfortunately, I don't own a video camera. My old digital camera can't zoom close enough, nor can it handle the very low light to get clear pictures.

[Straker]

I've been to Ipswich a few times, most notably in 1995 when there were a lot of UFO sightings in that area and in particular, Mount Walker (see google maps) where people had reported lights like these coming in and out of the top of it.

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/100922/974598114_4e0835c8d4_169j1ch-169j1cl.jpg?x=469&y=306&xc=1&yc=1&wc=499&hc=326&q=60&n=1&sig=T5Hsv312DniIzaw4u_WlJw--

So we formed an investigative team and went out there at 3am in the morning, and started climbing this mountain.

I was the first one to reach the top, and was stunned to find that on the peak was a helicopter landing pad and a large antenna.

You see Amberley Air Force base is not far away and they apparently use this antenna to bounce signals off to the base.

Just one possible explanation anyway..I have a photo of myself meditating on top of it around 6am.

Straker

[Debra]

Hi Cjay,

Interesting. I noticed a light here last week as I was looking out of the window, very early in the morning, and because of this kind of changing colour behaviour, it got my attention. But it was very small. And it had disappeared after I had got my camera ready. I will be sure to pass the tripod tip along (by the way, he is the friend of my friend, we have not met yet. My friend and I have had some history together in the field, and he hoped that I could help this guy further).


It's a shame your friend doesn't have a tripod. Even a tiny $5 tripod would make a huge difference.

I live near Melbourne and I frequently see similar objects. With the naked eye, they appear like a star rapidly changing colours - mostly white, blue, red, white, blue, red. With binoculars, it is obvious they are not a stars. Unfortunately, I don't own a video camera. My old digital camera can't zoom close enough, nor can it handle the very low light to get clear pictures.

[Debra]

Straker,
Cool. You do know this area well :) That is a great photo!

I actually had a conversation a few years ago with the co-ordinators of UFO Research Qld and they told about a particular person in this area of Brisbane, who would regularly go into 'a zone' (which his mother described) and disappear out of the house. Eventually, she followed him early one morning and found that he went to Mount Walker. He would climb up there and remain for hours. And, the story unfolded with the help of UFORQ to discover that he was having regular contact up there .. and I also saw some photos of skin conditions, after such encounters. I do not know anymore of this case. I believe from memory that it started around 1993, because I was researching to do a documentary, that eventually turned into something else.

So, ironically, this was around the time you went on your trip up there. I have forgotten, but I don´t recall the information that there was a helipad up there - in 1993. Hmm.

I am still waiting on more information from this latest video. My go between to this guy is finding out. But, another interesting comment the guy had said to him was: the sightings have been so consistent over the last two months that the craft are like the furniture around here. It is like they are observing us!

So, we shall see.


I've been to Ipswich a few times, most notably in 1995 when there were a lot of UFO sightings in that area and in particular, Mount Walker (see google maps) where people had reported lights like these coming in and out of the top of it.

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/100922/974598114_4e0835c8d4_169j1ch-169j1cl.jpg?x=469&y=306&xc=1&yc=1&wc=499&hc=326&q=60&n=1&sig=T5Hsv312DniIzaw4u_WlJw--

So we formed an investigative team and went out there at 3am in the morning, and started climbing this mountain.

I was the first one to reach the top, and was stunned to find that on the peak was a helicopter landing pad and a large antenna.

You see Amberley Air Force base is not far away and they apparently use this antenna to bounce signals off to the base.

Just one possible explanation anyway..I have a photo of myself meditating on top of it around 6am.

Straker

[Cjay]

The sky is amazingly clear tonight. I saw two of the coloured objects. One was moving slowly. Sorry, no video to show you.

[tonton]

living on the gold coast up until mid 90s, i remember numerous sightings from the hinterland ranges , the coastline and up to ipswich, it was sorta common talk but not many were interested in investigating. these days interest is growing and there are far more eyes in the sky, and more intelligent thought is given on the subject.and yes the skys can so very clear in those areas.living in europe i miss those larger sky views.
what i guess i wanted to say is that it wasnt that uncommon 20 years ago,there is a huge imortantnce in the area for quite some time now. the more info released, the closer we are to the truth's that have evaded us.interesting post!

[tonton]

If these objects have been around for about two months, I wonder if they have anything to do with the nearby Amberley airforce base? Just a thought. Ipswich was also very badly affected by the floods last year, a tent city I believe has grown in the region .. more thoughts. I meander, just wondering why these sightings have prevailed over the last few months in this particular area?


yeah Zebra,could be, but ive been away from there for a long time. i dont know how important the amberley airforce base is , but i do like the name," amberley"
what an" amberley" thing to say...he he.
but i did find this:

RAAF Base Amberley
Brisbane, Queensland
The Royal Australian Air Force's RAAF Base Amberley is our largest base, employing over 3500 people. It is 40kms south-west of Brisbane on the outskirts of Ipswich. A large number of units call Amberley home:
Combat Support Group
Combat Support Unit Amberley - base managers
No 395 Expeditionary Combat Support Wing
No 382 Expeditionary Combat Support Squadron
No 396 Expeditionary Combat Support Wing Detachment Amberley
Airfield Defence Wing
No 1 Airfield Defence Squadron - Airfield Defence Guards
No 2 Airfield Defence Squadron - Airfield Defence Guards
Health Services Wing
1 Expeditionary Health Squadron
Health Operational Conversion Unit
Reserve Training Wing
No 23 Squadron
No 44 Wing Detachment Amberley - air traffic control
No 82 Wing - strike and reconnaissance
No 1 Squadron - F/A-18F Super Hornet Fighter
No 6 Squadron - F/A-18F Super Hornet Fighter
No 4 Squadron - Pilatus PC-9/A Trainer
No 36 Squadron - C-17 Globemaster heavy transport aircraft
No 33 Squadon - KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport
No 87 Squadron - photography
No 278 Squadron - flight simulator and technical training
No 1 Airfield Operations Support Squadron - airfield engineering
RAAF Security and Fire School - security, fire-fighting and military working dog training


here is the sight location of the base using google earth 27°37'50.21" S 152°41'43.06" E
it is interesting to see as there are about 10 fighters parked so close to each other that it seems crazy , with one hit you could wipe out 10. and there was a circular construction which could be base foundations for tanks but they do seem strange ,thats not the way i would do foundations!, they are in construction, worth a look.
curiously i wrote" amberley air force base and ufos" and there were 21,300 hits on the net, so happy hunting, there are a lot of people out there that have seen things flying about in that area.

[Cilka]

Looks like these are man-made crafts, probably dispatched from the Pine Gap area. One way of telling if it is a fake one is if the craft stays in the sky for too long then it is a man-made one. Jackovesk posted an excellent footage of a spacecraft here on this forum; you can see that the spacecraft moved incredibly fast away from the people who just spotted it in the distance. The real ET's who are not here to harm us are very scared of the human species, because everytime they are spotted they get shot down. Humans are primitive, stupid and violent species, they just want to kill everything that moves and these ET's want to avoid being killed by us.

If I was one of these friendly ET's I would stay away from humans as far as possible. I bet there are more beautiful planets in the universe that can be explored, why bother with this one which has the most violent organic critters in the universe. The humans riding these man made spacecrafts have no fear of being shot down so they are not in a hurry to move fast across the sky when they are being spotted, and seriously when you think about it, they could easily be shot down by any one of the numerous space based weapons.

[Debra]

Thanks Cilka. If you can recall, locate the video your talking about posted by jacovesk .. and any other evidence that supports this possibility, please pass. All theories are welcome here.

cheers,Zebra

[jackovesk]

Hi Avalonians,

A friend in Australia has just sent me this brand new video of a sighting over Ipswich, west of Brisbane that was shot in the last few hours by a close friend. You can hear him talking with others while he is filming.

Apparently, similar óbjects´have been seen in the area during the last 2 months.

We would love to hear what the minds on the Avalon Forum have to say.

Best wishes
Zebra

VK5-mHv_2yA

With 'Chills & Goosebumps' running through my entire being, I write you this...

That totally 'FREAKED ME OUT', the 1st thing I thought about when I woke up this morning was...

I should start a 'Thread' on my 'Amazing' Dream I had last night, where I recieved what seemed like an 'Incredible' Download of Information & Energy, then saw a 'MASSIVE' White-Light that encompassed the entire room I was in...Whoooaaa..!

I even searched for my 'Sketchbook' this morning so I could draw what I saw and experienced...

If he was filming this in Ipswich and looking Westerly, that UFO would have been right over the Brisbane CBD and virtually right over the top of my house...

Thanks Zebra for uploading...:clap2:

I'm just about to 'Charge Up' my video camera and I'll definately be watching the 'Skies' tonight, and bring you all 1st Hand Avalonian (FOOTAGE) when and if it returns...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[Debra]

tonton, thanks for the info. I just checked out the base on google and looking at the round structures. What do you mean about the foundations, what are tanks, or how do you think they are normally footed?
I wonder about Amberley now, because of all of this information coming to light, because I always thought it to be quite an innocuous facility. Doing pubic air shows, sending F1 11s over dump and burn flyovers during new years eve celebrations, that sort of thing. And, it is very close also to Brisbane city and Ipswich and we can see a lot of detail from the air, by way of google.

The presence of ufos over the last 2 months, could be as Cilka has now raised, possibly military and not ET. The fact, she says, that they just stay there for long periods of time. This raises some interesting questions, in light of the false flag attack.

Or, what is going in Amberley? Is it the classic scenario of hiding things in plain sight? You got to wonder.




If these objects have been around for about two months, I wonder if they have anything to do with the nearby Amberley airforce base? Just a thought. Ipswich was also very badly affected by the floods last year, a tent city I believe has grown in the region .. more thoughts. I meander, just wondering why these sightings have prevailed over the last few months in this particular area?


yeah Zebra,could be, but ive been away from there for a long time. i dont know how important the amberley airforce base is , but i do like the name," amberley"
what an" amberley" thing to say...he he.
but i did find this:

RAAF Base Amberley
Brisbane, Queensland
The Royal Australian Air Force's RAAF Base Amberley is our largest base, employing over 3500 people. It is 40kms south-west of Brisbane on the outskirts of Ipswich. A large number of units call Amberley home:
Combat Support Group
Combat Support Unit Amberley - base managers
No 395 Expeditionary Combat Support Wing
No 382 Expeditionary Combat Support Squadron
No 396 Expeditionary Combat Support Wing Detachment Amberley
Airfield Defence Wing
No 1 Airfield Defence Squadron - Airfield Defence Guards
No 2 Airfield Defence Squadron - Airfield Defence Guards
Health Services Wing
1 Expeditionary Health Squadron
Health Operational Conversion Unit
Reserve Training Wing
No 23 Squadron
No 44 Wing Detachment Amberley - air traffic control
No 82 Wing - strike and reconnaissance
No 1 Squadron - F/A-18F Super Hornet Fighter
No 6 Squadron - F/A-18F Super Hornet Fighter
No 4 Squadron - Pilatus PC-9/A Trainer
No 36 Squadron - C-17 Globemaster heavy transport aircraft
No 33 Squadon - KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport
No 87 Squadron - photography
No 278 Squadron - flight simulator and technical training
No 1 Airfield Operations Support Squadron - airfield engineering
RAAF Security and Fire School - security, fire-fighting and military working dog training


here is the sight location of the base using google earth 27°37'50.21" S 152°41'43.06" E
it is interesting to see as there are about 10 fighters parked so close to each other that it seems crazy , with one hit you could wipe out 10. and there was a circular construction which could be base foundations for tanks but they do seem strange ,thats not the way i would do foundations!, they are in construction, worth a look.
curiously i wrote" amberley air force base and ufos" and there were 21,300 hits on the net, so happy hunting, there are a lot of people out there that have seen things flying about in that area.

[Debra]

tonton, have you ever heard about the book called Alien Honeycomb? It came out in the 80s, from memory. One of the first books I read on Australian sightings. It was a fantastic account where the author went on an investigation that brought him to the hinterland of the gold coast .. to search out information that a ufo had crashed on land that was owned by Telecom. He tells in the book how the caretaker of the property eventually took him to a shed and revealed this strange metallic material, that resembled honeycomb. There were photos in this book as well. Apparently all other evidence had been removed. But, he made the mistake of sending the object away for testing - and although he got results back - the artifact itself was 'disappeared'

POST UPDATE: Just checked, the author was John Pinkney. The book is available through Amazon. Used copies are now selling from 44 dollars each !!!


living on the gold coast up until mid 90s, i remember numerous sightings from the hinterland ranges , the coastline and up to ipswich, it was sorta common talk but not many were interested in investigating. these days interest is growing and there are far more eyes in the sky, and more intelligent thought is given on the subject.and yes the skys can so very clear in those areas.living in europe i miss those larger sky views.
what i guess i wanted to say is that it wasnt that uncommon 20 years ago,there is a huge imortantnce in the area for quite some time now. the more info released, the closer we are to the truth's that have evaded us.interesting post!

[Debra]

Jacovesk,

Bring it on!

That sounds very, very intriguing

SOMETHING BIG IS GOING ON




With 'Chills & Goosebumps' running through my entire being, I write you this...

That totally 'FREAKED ME OUT', the 1st thing I thought about when I woke up this morning was...

I should start a 'Thread' on my 'Amazing' Dream I had last night, where I recieved what seemed like an 'Incredible' Download of Information & Energy, then saw a 'MASSIVE' White-Light that encompassed the entire room I was in...Whoooaaa..!

I even searched for my 'Sketchbook' this morning so I could draw what I saw and experienced...

If he was filming this in Ipswich and looking Westerly, that UFO would have been right over the Brisbane CBD and virtually right over the top of my house...

Thanks Zebra for uploading...:clap2:

I'm just about to 'Charge Up' my video camera and I'll definately be watching the 'Skies' tonight, and bring you all 1st Hand Avalonian (FOOTAGE) when and if it returns...:yes4:

Rgs,

Jack

[Rogerc]

maybe they just slowed down so that they could be seen(light reflection).

I learned to fly helicopters at RAAF Amberly. We did a lot of night flying both with and without nav lights.

We often carried out autorotations ( engine failures) at night these would be seen as a very slow light followed by an extremely rapid rate of descent - in the initial stages like free fall.

Now the major Army helicopter training base is at Oakey, (Toowoomba), about 55 km west of Amberley.

Even to experienced night pilots a helicopter, especially with atmospherics ,seems to do some really strange things.

Also at night speed, change of direction and altitude depend largely on the position of the observer relative to the craft.

I am not suggesting they are not UFO's but as there is no secret to training ops maybe you could check with Army Oakey or RAAF Amberley whether night flying ops are in progress.

Also useful is a terminal chart which will show the extent of restricted airspace around both bases.

PS The Airforce sleeps on Sundays,(don't tell anyone!!) So Saturday and Sunday nights are the best time for observing.

[Debra]

That is very useful knowledge to have Rogerc. Very valuable inside info. Thanks. The interplay of atmospherics and positioning/perspective no doubt can present some strange visions, which until understood, can fool people to think they are seeing something that is not earth based.

I suppose I would question, in regards to this particular sighting, how this is possible for an autorotation exercise to stay almost stationery for hours in the sky?
Another theory offered has been that the object might be an RC plane (remote control) but the guy who took the video, actually taken with his mobile phone, says in a comment on youtube:


How can it be a RC plane?? It hovers in the same place for hours. And not one or two of them. Every night there are atleast 6 in the sky. And they split into other lights and craft, fly over my house in silence and then split off into other lights and balls. Maybe one night viewing I could be confused. But I see these everynight for the past 2 months.


He says that the object/s always appear ''To the Nth West and West. I pretty much took this footage to shut my friends up who thought I was going mad.''

And, he adds:
This footage was taken on my mobile phone camera, which wasnt on the right settings either at the time I recorded. This thing was 100times brighter than anything else in the sky. I have seen this one now about 8 or so times, it was here again last night and will prob be here tonight as well. It seems to be coming in much closer every 2nd night. This footage doesnt give the real brightness or size of it in perspective.

I wonder if he is taking any more footage? I am yet to find out more as my contact is in transit at the moment out of Australia.






maybe they just slowed down so that they could be seen(light reflection).

I learned to fly helicopters at RAAF Amberly. We did a lot of night flying both with and without nav lights.

We often carried out autorotations ( engine failures) at night these would be seen as a very slow light followed by an extremely rapid rate of descent - in the initial stages like free fall.

Now the major Army helicopter training base is at Oakey, (Toowoomba), about 55 km west of Amberley.

Even to experienced night pilots a helicopter, especially with atmospherics ,seems to do some really strange things.

Also at night speed, change of direction and altitude depend largely on the position of the observer relative to the craft.

I am not suggesting they are not UFO's but as there is no secret to training ops maybe you could check with Army Oakey or RAAF Amberley whether night flying ops are in progress.

Also useful is a terminal chart which will show the extent of restricted airspace around both bases.

PS The Airforce sleeps on Sundays,(don't tell anyone!!) So Saturday and Sunday nights are the best time for observing.

[Rogerc]

Hey Zebra, It is impossible for a helicopter to be stationary for hours in the sky because the average endurance is only about three hours until fuel exhaustion.

So that blows the helicopter theory out of the sky, (weak pun)

What is it then??

[Christine roby]

Problem with the false flag. Thing how we going to know what's real and what isn't good footage though

[tonton]

Zebra, the tanks i refered to were the fuel tanks there are two big ones, next to them there is a clearing. there are two large circles on the ground ,one is a land clearing the other seems to be foundations for the fuel tanks. but they are modular!,modular?. tank foundations would have to be a deep floating slab that would be able to take the obvious tons of Waite ,they would also have to be leveled at about i meter above ground.to avoid the wet.
they would have to be pored as in one piece , to avoid cracking or sinking towards one side or another.NOT modular.
another thing that bothered me was that they are about to start the other one .why isnt the left over steel still there and boxing bourds ect.i wouldnt take it all away to only have to bring it back again to do the other one just 30 merters away.
it could look like foundations as i say , and it could look like circular doors .(underground)
the other thing that bothered me was where do they park all the aircraft. if we look at the list there are loads and loads of squadrons of craft to park in the open or under cover.the hangers do not seen to be enough.......the list is false or most of it is underground.

on the other issue, Alien honeycomb , no i dont know it,but i will check it out. the hinterland story i knew about was one of a huge amount of witnesses after a wedding reception. it was long ago. the towns people stated what they had seen to the press in detail, and the press only led them on to be ridiculed, as crazy silly small town people ,then sortly after the numerous abductions that they found hard to relate to or understand . so between the two, they all decided to never talk again on the experience. a few talked to me about the the experience years later.but even then they shord themselves that i didnt work for the press.
im glad that times are changing now , people can finally be more open and not be humiliated to be true.

[Debra]

Hey tonton,

OK, now I understand what you are getting at. Boy, what if? All possible with the ramp up at the moment. However, I would refer these observations about the large circles to Rogerc. As you can see above, he was a helicopter pilot attached to Amberley and Toowoomba and might have some more to say about this. Would have more knowledge about the layout and some of your other questions relating to the housing of aircraft, etc.

That is an interesting account about that wedding party. Multiple witnesses as well. A few years back, you were considered a total loon - so I can understand them closing down on talking about it further. A lot of pressure goes with these associations - as probably you have already experienced yourself. I certainly have. It´s not fun, that is for sure.

Thanks again tonton. Keep the camera ready :)
Zebra


Zebra, the tanks i refered to were the fuel tanks there are two big ones, next to them there is a clearing. there are two large circles on the ground ,one is a land clearing the other seems to be foundations for the fuel tanks. but they are modular!,modular?. tank foundations would have to be a deep floating slab that would be able to take the obvious tons of Waite ,they would also have to be leveled at about i meter above ground.to avoid the wet.
they would have to be pored as in one piece , to avoid cracking or sinking towards one side or another.NOT modular.
another thing that bothered me was that they are about to start the other one .why isnt the left over steel still there and boxing bourds ect.i wouldnt take it all away to only have to bring it back again to do the other one just 30 merters away.
it could look like foundations as i say , and it could look like circular doors .(underground)
the other thing that bothered me was where do they park all the aircraft. if we look at the list there are loads and loads of squadrons of craft to park in the open or under cover.the hangers do not seen to be enough.......the list is false or most of it is underground.

on the other issue, Alien honeycomb , no i dont know it,but i will check it out. the hinterland story i knew about was one of a huge amount of witnesses after a wedding reception. it was long ago. the towns people stated what they had seen to the press in detail, and the press only led them on to be ridiculed, as crazy silly small town people ,then sortly after the numerous abductions that they found hard to relate to or understand . so between the two, they all decided to never talk again on the experience. a few talked to me about the the experience years later.but even then they shord themselves that i didnt work for the press.
im glad that times are changing now , people can finally be more open and not be humiliated to be true.

[Debra]

Ipswich UFO witness writes to Avalon

Hey all, I have just received more information and reflections by the guy who took the OP video and he looks forward to hearing more from us here as well. I think you will find the following email he sent very interesting. As he writes below, they come regularly ..



Hey ---

Ok, ummmmm what more can I offer on these sightings.
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

They are here every night. Usually about 6 nights a week for sure.

They hover in the skies within a certain area, I'm working out they are above state forest or lakes in the area.

The one in this footage showed up about 2 - 3 weeks ago. It comes here usually about 3-4 days a week. Usually or 2 nights straight then returns a night or two later. In the same area. To the naked eye, it is a HUGE light in the sky. This footage doesnt give justice or perspective to what it actually looks like in the naked night sky.

I've seen comments on youtube saying its a Satellite. This observation is false because this object hovers only about 400 feet off the ground. And it slowly lowers itself to where I now know as a state forest and a lake in the area. One of the people commenting on Avalon mentions the Raaf base and some mountain. Those locations for those two things (Raaf base and Mountain) are to the South of where I am and this object is. I am in North Ipswich.

I do notice that late at night when these object seem to be more active, I hear aircraft taking off from the Raaf base which is about 20kms to the south of my house and these objects, which give me the idea they are not theirs.

The dont fly in packs or in any formation.
But they are interacting with each other.

This footage of this craft seems to be of a newer craft of NOT the same beings. The reason why I think that is its shown up months after the others, and in the footage other craft seem to be taking offence that it is in the area. It is 10x closer to my house than the others will come. Give me the impression its arrogant and the others dislike it is coming in too close. Even its movement in the sky seems to be arrogant.

Its def doing something in the forest and lake because it ascends right into them. Every time. From what I can tell because I dont actually see it landing because my vision is obstructed during the final landing stages.

They seem to interact with me on a telepathic level. I have attempted to contact them, and 90% of the time, they interact with my thoughts. Physically moving their craft to my wishes. Or flashing their lights or altering them to interact with me. I try NOT to get to interactive with them, as I prefer to observe for now anyway.

I am going to buy a HD camera and I will get more footage of ALL of them in the coming week, They will be still here,....lol.....they're always here.

[Rogerc]

You know, partly because of Avalon, partly because of other sites I have become totally "disoriented"
Three months ago, like everyone else I thought our Reserve Bank was ours - research into the Rothschilds and the Illuminati has led me to believe that perhaps everything we see and are told is being fed to us as a diversion from the real problem and that is of the existing and expanding of a banking monopoly that is heading for world domination.
Their power crosses racial, religious, spiritual, moral and every other area.
Moves to censure the internet are increasing because the spread of knowledge is an anathema to secret societies.
Whether it is 2012 or the 'Quickening" or solar alignments I do not know but it seems that things are rapidly coming to a real crisis for humankind - they, (the Rothschilds) are masters at manipulation and disinformation.
When I find elements of the US military are openly questioning what is happening it borders on the surreal.
Anyone who can figure it out please say so - but please don't answer in terms of religious belief or greys or alien invasions.
I'm convinced the problem is right here.
My spiritual nature tells me WTF, everything will be OK. however I am fearful for my children and future generations.

[Debra]

Hi Christine,
You make a fair point. I just guage evidence from my own take on it, I ask myself internally, does this have truth in it? When it comes to video put out by every man and his dog right now - amongst some of these, I believe there are REAL sightings of interest that are NOT faked.

For me, any voices on a video will indicate quickly whether a video is authentic or not. But that is me, I have been trained to read people´s communication, especially the voice.

This particular case, I trust. I don´t put up videos of sightings easily .. and this one happens to be connected to someone I know and respect greatly. I have asked this guy also to provide us with any ongoing information, because this event is not just a one off. Read the email he wrote today in this thread, which I have just posted. I thought it would be of interest for us to be able to give our feedback, and to question him further to help in this enquiry. Something very questionable is going on. It is a live case, and we have access to the source.

Thanks, Zebra


Problem with the false flag. Thing how we going to know what's real and what isn't good footage though

[Debra]

Hi Rogerc,

I hear you. Lot of confusion at the moment. Information out there is dense and it is tangled. So for that reason, I believe we can only accept that nothing is concrete here, all this is just a may be.

As for the guy who has taken this video, he has been experiencing something and is questioning what is happening, and rightfully so. And he has produced some evidence. What these sightings are, where they are from, he does´nt know, and neither do we. However, when you read his email, you get the sense that he is taking it in his stride. I like that. He is accepting that something is there and choosing to keep his objectivity and distance for now so he can observe to get a better understanding.

I think we should all do that. I speak for myself, because that is all I can manage. I am on a journey to expand my consciousness, and that means staying alert, open and learning. That is the best part and I think that is exciting.



You know, partly because of Avalon, partly because of other sites I have become totally "disoriented"
Three months ago, like everyone else I thought our Reserve Bank was ours - research into the Rothschilds and the Illuminati has led me to believe that perhaps everything we see and are told is being fed to us as a diversion from the real problem and that is of the existing and expanding of a banking monopoly that is heading for world domination.
Their power crosses racial, religious, spiritual, moral and every other area.
Moves to censure the internet are increasing because the spread of knowledge is an anathema to secret societies.
Whether it is 2012 or the 'Quickening" or solar alignments I do not know but it seems that things are rapidly coming to a real crisis for humankind - they, (the Rothschilds) are masters at manipulation and disinformation.
When I find elements of the US military are openly questioning what is happening it borders on the surreal.
Anyone who can figure it out please say so - but please don't answer in terms of religious belief or greys or alien invasions.
I'm convinced the problem is right here.
My spiritual nature tells me WTF, everything will be OK. however I am fearful for my children and future generations.

[Rogerc]

Hey tonton,

OK, now I understand what you are getting at. Boy, what if? All possible with the ramp up at the moment. However, I would refer these observations about the large circles to Rogerc. As you can see above, he was a helicopter pilot attached to Amberley and Toowoomba and might have some more to say about this. Would have more knowledge about the layout and some of your other questions relating to the housing of aircraft, etc.

That is an interesting account about that wedding party. Multiple witnesses as well. A few years back, you were considered a total loon - so I can understand them closing down on talking about it further. A lot of pressure goes with these associations - as probably you have already experienced yourself. I certainly have. It´s not fun, that is for sure.

Thanks again tonton. Keep the camera ready :)
Zebra


Zebra, the tanks i refered to were the fuel tanks there are two big ones, next to them there is a clearing. there are two large circles on the ground ,one is a land clearing the other seems to be foundations for the fuel tanks. but they are modular!,modular?. tank foundations would have to be a deep floating slab that would be able to take the obvious tons of Waite ,they would also have to be leveled at about i meter above ground.to avoid the wet.
they would have to be pored as in one piece , to avoid cracking or sinking towards one side or another.NOT modular.
another thing that bothered me was that they are about to start the other one .why isnt the left over steel still there and boxing bourds ect.i wouldnt take it all away to only have to bring it back again to do the other one just 30 merters away.
it could look like foundations as i say , and it could look like circular doors .(underground)
the other thing that bothered me was where do they park all the aircraft. if we look at the list there are loads and loads of squadrons of craft to park in the open or under cover.the hangers do not seen to be enough.......the list is false or most of it is underground.

on the other issue, Alien honeycomb , no i dont know it,but i will check it out. the hinterland story i knew about was one of a huge amount of witnesses after a wedding reception. it was long ago. the towns people stated what they had seen to the press in detail, and the press only led them on to be ridiculed, as crazy silly small town people ,then sortly after the numerous abductions that they found hard to relate to or understand . so between the two, they all decided to never talk again on the experience. a few talked to me about the the experience years later.but even then they shord themselves that i didnt work for the press.
im glad that times are changing now , people can finally be more open and not be humiliated to be true.



I looked around the base and found the following:

The circular areas to the west of the strip are ordnance,(munitions) bunkers the circular areas are fire breaks around them. No aircraft could be in that area because they require 'Hard standing' - runways taxiways etc

The aircraft grouped together are decommissioned F111's

The photos are taken in 2009 and I guess the F18's would have been deployed in the Gulf area.

As for the no. of squadrons only about 4 of those would be operational squadrons with aircraft - The RAAF call all units squadrons whether or not they fly - i.e. maintenance squadrons, support squadrons. Same as the RAN - their land bases are all called HMAS....... trust me the military is strange!

I'm not a trained aerial photo interpreter but I can't find anything sinister there at all. Remember military satellites are far better definition than google maps and you would not expect to be able to find a top secret area on google.

There are six heavy transports including one on the strip.

I have to add that I trained at Amberley in 1966, good trotting down memory lane though!

The entrance gate made me laugh - we used to have races with the police coming back from Ipswich. There used to be a boom gate there and it would be swung open for us and closed behind us. Amberley is Commonwealth property and the Queensland police had no jurisdiction.

Off topic I know but you did ask me to go there LOL

[Debra]

This kind of established fact checking is critical. Thanks Rogerc. *laughing at your hi jinks avoiding Qld police, shooting through those boom barriers. Hilarious*

Considering your understanding of the lay of the land there, can you please comment on the latest information that has been supplied by this experiencer who is documenting these sightings? The description is now much more detailed. Hoping you can offer some more perspective, based on your background.

It would be appreciated - for me, but mostly for our experiencer in this thread.

Thanks, Zebra




Zebra, the tanks i refered to were the fuel tanks there are two big ones, next to them there is a clearing. there are two large circles on the ground ,one is a land clearing the other seems to be foundations for the fuel tanks. but they are modular!,modular?. tank foundations would have to be a deep floating slab that would be able to take the obvious tons of Waite ,they would also have to be leveled at about i meter above ground.to avoid the wet.
they would have to be pored as in one piece , to avoid cracking or sinking towards one side or another.NOT modular.
another thing that bothered me was that they are about to start the other one .why isnt the left over steel still there and boxing bourds ect.i wouldnt take it all away to only have to bring it back again to do the other one just 30 merters away.
it could look like foundations as i say , and it could look like circular doors .(underground)
the other thing that bothered me was where do they park all the aircraft. if we look at the list there are loads and loads of squadrons of craft to park in the open or under cover.the hangers do not seen to be enough.......the list is false or most of it is underground.





I looked around the base and found the following:

The circular areas to the west of the strip are ordnance,(munitions) bunkers the circular areas are fire breaks around them. No aircraft could be in that area because they require 'Hard standing' - runways taxiways etc

The aircraft grouped together are decommissioned F111's

The photos are taken in 2009 and I guess the F18's would have been deployed in the Gulf area.

As for the no. of squadrons only about 4 of those would be operational squadrons with aircraft - The RAAF call all units squadrons whether or not they fly - i.e. maintenance squadrons, support squadrons. Same as the RAN - their land bases are all called HMAS....... trust me the military is strange!

I'm not a trained aerial photo interpreter but I can't find anything sinister there at all. Remember military satellites are far better definition than google maps and you would not expect to be able to find a top secret area on google.

There are six heavy transports including one on the strip.

I have to add that I trained at Amberley in 1966, good trotting down memory lane though!

The entrance gate made me laugh - we used to have races with the police coming back from Ipswich. There used to be a boom gate there and it would be swung open for us and closed behind us. Amberley is Commonwealth property and the Queensland police had no jurisdiction.

Off topic I know but you did ask me to go there LOL[/QUOTE]

[Rogerc]

I had another look and it appears that the concrete areas are the RAAFSFS (RAAF Security and Fire School)
Looking closely you can see mock up aircraft and what are possibly foam storage facilities
As for modular construction that is accepted practice or the concrete will crack - also it avoids a huge continuous pour
They practice fire fighting, emergency evacuation and terrorist threat procedures
Really though for a better evaluation I would need exact coordinates as the one given is the corner of a large building
Also for a proper evaluation you would need 'stereo pairs' of aerial photos, google is just not good enough

There is an aerial photo which has much better definition at:

http://www.airport-data.com/world-airports/YAMB/maps.html#

[Debra]

Sorry Rogerc, I was not being clear enough. I meant the testimony from the person who took the video in #37. He is not a forum member. What you are responding to here were observations made by Avalon member tonton who posts in #23 and #25

Here is the new evidence that the un-named person, at this time, supplied me with before the weekend. THANKS :)


Ipswich UFO witness writes to Avalon

Hey all, I have just received more information and reflections by the guy who took the OP video and he looks forward to hearing more from us here as well. I think you will find the following email he sent very interesting. As he writes below, they come regularly ..


Hey ---

Ok, ummmmm what more can I offer on these sightings.
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

They are here every night. Usually about 6 nights a week for sure.

They hover in the skies within a certain area, I'm working out they are above state forest or lakes in the area.

The one in this footage showed up about 2 - 3 weeks ago. It comes here usually about 3-4 days a week. Usually or 2 nights straight then returns a night or two later. In the same area. To the naked eye, it is a HUGE light in the sky. This footage doesnt give justice or perspective to what it actually looks like in the naked night sky.

I've seen comments on youtube saying its a Satellite. This observation is false because this object hovers only about 400 feet off the ground. And it slowly lowers itself to where I now know as a state forest and a lake in the area. One of the people commenting on Avalon mentions the Raaf base and some mountain. Those locations for those two things (Raaf base and Mountain) are to the South of where I am and this object is. I am in North Ipswich.

I do notice that late at night when these object seem to be more active, I hear aircraft taking off from the Raaf base which is about 20kms to the south of my house and these objects, which give me the idea they are not theirs.

The dont fly in packs or in any formation.
But they are interacting with each other.

This footage of this craft seems to be of a newer craft of NOT the same beings. The reason why I think that is its shown up months after the others, and in the footage other craft seem to be taking offence that it is in the area. It is 10x closer to my house than the others will come. Give me the impression its arrogant and the others dislike it is coming in too close. Even its movement in the sky seems to be arrogant.

Its def doing something in the forest and lake because it ascends right into them. Every time. From what I can tell because I dont actually see it landing because my vision is obstructed during the final landing stages.

They seem to interact with me on a telepathic level. I have attempted to contact them, and 90% of the time, they interact with my thoughts. Physically moving their craft to my wishes. Or flashing their lights or altering them to interact with me. I try NOT to get to interactive with them, as I prefer to observe for now anyway.

I am going to buy a HD camera and I will get more footage of ALL of them in the coming week, They will be still here,....lol.....they're always here.



I had another look and it appears that the concrete areas are the RAAFSFS (RAAF Security and Fire School)
Looking closely you can see mock up aircraft and what is possibly foam storage facilities ( there are no above ground fuel tanks for obvious reasons.
As for modular construction that is accepted practice or the concrete will crack - also it avoids a huge continuous pour
They practice fire fighting, emergency evacuation and terrorist threat procedures
Really though for a better evaluation I would need exact coordinates as the one given is the corner of a large building

[Rogerc]

Hi Zebra, Think we are out of synch here. I can only comment on the RAAF base.

I am certainly not questioning the veracity of the reporter nor on the possibility of the existence of UFO,s.

I have followed UFO sightings for several years and including the recent release of papers regarding British bomber pilots in WW11.

There is no doubt that something strange going on but I don't know what - sorry.

PS Churchill classified the UFO sightings for at least 50 years.

Radar sweeps at the rate of about 2 - 5 seconds per 360 degrees and it is quite possible that an advanced craft would pick up radar transmissions and move in and out of the swept area - hence no sightings. I guess returning to the same location between sweeps could make objects appear to be stationary to the observer.

Apparently the human eye and brain can only process about 30 frames per second.

The plot thickens.

PPS Proxima Centauri our closest star is 4.4 light years away - anyone that can travels those distances is so far ahead of our technology that anything is possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Okz_YSw-4&feature=related

(unless they're already here)

[Debra]

Thanks Rogerc. I understand. You remind me of John Lear, and that is a great compliment by the way. What you don´t know, you say so.
However, your perspective in relation to sorting out what it could be with your understanding of military vehicles and practices - that is most valuable.

Thanks for providing some alternative scenarios. All bases - pardon the pun - need to be covered. Absolut!

I have to say though, your comments about radar sweeps and the capability of the human eye and brain hold weight as well in this, as do speculations that - in spite of alleged, habital systems - they are already here.

I would add, it is also possible they have been here, maybe longer than we have.

The plot thickens, even more :)

Zebra


Hi Zebra, Think we are out of synch here. I can only comment on the RAAF base.

I am certainly not questioning the veracity of the reporter nor on the possibility of the existence of UFO,s.

I have followed UFO sightings for several years and including the recent release of papers regarding British bomber pilots in WW11.

There is no doubt that something strange going on but I don't know what - sorry.

PS Churchill classified the UFO sightings for at least 50 years.

Radar sweeps at the rate of about 2 - 5 seconds per 360 degrees and it is quite possible that an advanced craft would pick up radar transmissions and move in and out of the swept area - hence no sightings. I guess returning to the same location between sweeps could make objects appear to be stationary to the observer.

Apparently the human eye and brain can only process about 30 frames per second.

The plot thickens.

PPS Proxima Centauri our closest star is 4.4 light years away - anyone that can travels those distances is so far ahead of our technology that anything is possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Okz_YSw-4&feature=related

(unless they're already here)

[Straker]

Imagine if we could build a camera that could take 144,000 frames per second..which is supposed to be the frequency of life/pulse of the universe isn't it? I wonder what we'd see?