Timeline Change??

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hello all...your thoughts please...

Ok, I have been here for a good few years now and have been aware of Planet X for ages and understand the basics of what we are to expect if this huge body approaches and fly's by.

But I was wondering with our collective conciousness, could we change the timeline???

I have listened to and watched many truthseekers and certain events haven't panned out as they have described. They then say that we have managed to steer away from disaster and we are on a different time line!! This has happened many times before with some of the top 'truthseekers' ...Is this an excuse for 'ooops I messed up' and to say 'we are on a different timeline' an escape route, so to speak.

I am not going to mention any names but you can do your own reseach. I am sure you are aware of some!!

So to all you very clever people and enlightened beings.

Can we change the timeline we are on and create a new world without the mega disasters??

And if so, does it mean that the 'truthseekers' on forums that push the Planet X or pole Shift agenda are on a differnent timeline?? I think you all know where I'm coming from!!

Viking

[blue777]

The only way you are going to change the timeline is to change your consciousness to a higher frequency,and your body to a crystalline form
lol
blue /dominic

[tone3jaguar]

Planet X is a myth propagated by an individual who decided that his interpretation of the Sumerian texts was accurate.

[Fredkc]

how would we know if we "switched time lines" ?

Kinda of reminds me of the Stephen Wright one-liner;

"Last night, someone sneaked into my apartment and replaced everything with exact duplicates."

[blue777]

how would we know if we "switched time lines" ?

Kinda of reminds me of the Stephen Wright one-liner;

"Last night, someone sneaked into my apartment and replaced everything with exact duplicates."

great...really funny
lol blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes thanks Blue... we are all working on that one... ;)

Tone3 ...fair comment...what about the pole shift ,myth as well??

viking

[blue777]

Yes thanks Blue... we are all working on that one... ;)

Tone3 ...fair comment...what about the pole shift ,myth as well??

viking

hello viking
do you think the collective consciousness can change the position of an oncoming comet or a heavenly body made of matter?
lol
blue/dominic
could planet X ...BE PLANET 10?

[Elandiel BernElve]

I dont really understand the concept of different timelines. Its hard to fathom and I hear people here speaking about it since the oil spill as if they actually understand whats going on.. i hope so..

It seems, since in my world the oil spill has stopped that I''ve evolved to an other timeline in which my consciousness wanted it to stop and wanted oil to be banned.
All of a sudden, wow a miracle, BP managed to cap the leak in a few days and hey the spill has stopped.
People start saying yeah were on a different timeline! (okay possible, what we want as a consciousness might happen i get that)
Then people start saying yeah only those who wanted it to stop are on this new timeline and the rest is still in the timeline where well who knows today the entire gulf might be black.
I cant get that, its not like half of the world population is gone, so are we living parallel lives at the same time? And do we only have consciousness of this life in this timeline because its the one we choose to be in?

If so then we could try starting to make as much fuss about introducing new free energy as we made fuss about the oil spill to create a new timeline in which within two months oil stopped pouring from the earthcrust everywhere and we all start getting free energy devices.
Or is it that at some given crucial points we get to decide... how do we know were at such a point?

A lot of questions but hey, this is important people...

thanks in advance

[blue777]

hello EBE
timeline...take a guitar..pluck any string..you can hear the note and maybe a 5th above it, however the harmonics are infinite, and they go 5th ,octave, 5th Octave etc until they are not audible..these are timelines or dimensions
lol
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

hello viking
do you think the collective consciousness can change the position of an oncoming comet or a heavenly body made of matter?
lol
blue/dominic
could planet X ...BE PLANET 10?

Sooo are you saying that we can change the impact of a huge body creating mass disturbance to our solar system and here on earth...and steer away from probable pole shifts...ect ect...

Do we need to be in majority STO?? or can we do this with a small fraction of STO??

Yes Planet X could be 10!!

viking

[Swanny]

Maybe some of us want planet x to come :p

[Eric J (Viking)]

Maybe some of us want planet x to come :p

Well we know you want it to come Swanny...otherwise what would you do with all those beans!!!

Mind you you could get a deal with Russian gas!!! LOL

viking

[blue777]

Sooo are you saying that we can change the impact of a huge body creating mass disturbance to our solar system and here on earth...and steer away from probable pole shifts...ect ect...

Do we need to be in majority STO?? or can we do this with a small fraction of STO??

Yes Planet X could be 10!!

viking

if you find the resonant frequency of a heavenly body....if you used positive energy maybe say collective consciousness , it may be possible
lol
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

So what are you saying...that we can do this even if we are running at ....lets say 20% STO ...

I would appreciate other opinions as well by the way...

viking

[Operator]

ok, there are some things to keep in mind .... there are so many contradictions left and right that one starts to wonder .... what is true and what's not.

Time and space are one thing, so if we could change timelines we would be able to alter space reality as well ...
And about pole shifts ... I saw some pictures a few days ago of supposed openings at he poles. IF the earth IS hollow and we had pole shifts before
then how come the openings are still conveniently at the top and bottom ?

I do not claim to have the answers ... only more questions to question some of the popular answers.

[blue777]

So what are you saying...that we can do this even if we are running at ....lets say 20% STO ...

I would appreciate other opinions as well by the way...

viking

I think what you are saying is MIND over Matter scenario , I prefer to look at it as positive sound over negative sound frequencies, and harmonic resonance
lol
blue/dominic

[norman]

hello blue. Thinking about your harmonics aproach to it, I noticed that you only mentioned the chordal positive harmonics. There are dischordal negative harmonics too ( not sure if I used the right terminology for all that ).

Perhaps that's IT!..... just keep the harmonics positive. Snag is..... no matter how much we amplify the positive harmonics, as long as the source of the negative harmonics exists, the negative harmonics will keep on beating off all our positive harmonics making our effort produce more of everything, including the negative disschordal content.

We still have to stop the source of the negative harmonics. We won't just get away with ignoring it. It has to be stopped.

Not sure how any of this would stop an incoming orbital object though.

[Steven]

Instead of 'Timeline', I prefere talking about 'future possibilities'. The concept of 'timeline' is easy to be quite misleading into a nightmare of assumptions.

If you really look into the origin of the planet X, as Tonejaguar3 as mentionned, it comes from Zecharia Sitchin. All other talks about Planet X came after from Sitchin's work. But, Sitchin never stated that Planet X was due in 2012 or even near this date. If you read his book 'the 12th planet', not the tenth by the way, you will find a few parts in the book which clearly states that the 12th planet has an orbite which last 3600 years in Earth time. The last time it might have passed is around 556BC which would make the next passage around year 3000! That is what Mr. Sitchin said.

So, it looks like a whole confusion similar to the confusion around 2012. The mayan never mentionned end of the world or catastrophic scenario in their propheties. Just like Sitchin never said the 12th planet would come back anytime soon. Go back to the roots!

Here is a recent interview with Mr. Sitchin, where he clearly states that the 12th planet has nothing to do with 2012.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/06/15/4508251-looking-for-alien-dna

Timeline is a distraction... It is a sea of possibilities that some people see, like Credo Mutwa. Only possibilities that can change because our consciousness is dynamic, especially now!

So, if there were people claiming the passage of the 12th planet is due and is not appearing because we have change our timeline, it makes two wrong assumptions in the same statement :)

Namaste, Steven

[Fredkc]

Operator;
Sorry, yer on your own.
I dropped the hollow earth thing in the same drawer as the flat earth thing decades ago. ;)

re. the pole shift thing... simple.
If the holes weren't at the top and bottom, then inner earth would have filled up during the flood.
Think before you ask this stuff!
http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif

Fred

[Eric J (Viking)]

norman

Re: Timeline Change??
hello blue. Thinking about your harmonics aproach to it, I noticed that you only mentioned the chordal positive harmonics. There are dischordal negative harmonics too ( not sure if I used the right terminology for all that ).

Perhaps that's IT!..... just keep the harmonics positive. Snag is..... no matter how much we amplify the positive harmonics, as long as the source of the negative harmonics exists, the negative harmonics will keep on beating off all our positive harmonics making our effort produce more of everything, including the negative disschordal content.

We still have to stop the source of the negative harmonics. We won't just get away with ignoring it. It has to be stopped.

Not sure how any of this would stop an incoming orbital object though.

Hey Blue Norman has a point here...if negative harmonics exists how will we counterbalance this with the vast majority locked into STS??


Steven
If you really look into the origin of the planet X, as Tonejaguar3 as mentionned, it comes from Zecharia Sitchin. All other talks about Planet X came after from Sitchin's work. But, Sitchin never stated that Planet X was due in 2012 or even near this date. If you read his book 'the 12th planet', not the tenth by the way, you will find a few parts in the book which clearly states that the 12th planet has an orbite which last 3600 years in Earth time. The last time it might have passed is around 556BC which would make the next passage around year 3000! That is what Mr. Sitchin said.

So, it looks like a whole confusion similar to the confusion around 2012. The mayan never mentionned end of the world or catastrophic scenario in their propheties. Just like Sitchin never said the 12th planet would come back anytime soon. Go back to the roots!

Here is a recent interview with Mr. Sitchin, where he clearly states that the 12th planet has nothing to do with 2012.




Ok Steven forget about Planet X ... What about the Pole Shift or Cataclysmic earth change.

The Pole Shift or cataclysmic weather changes have happened evry 3600 - 4000 years...

The ice cores show that we have had a cataclysmic event every 3600 years…and that 3600 years ago we had the sudden collapse of various civilisation…

Apply the question to the 'Pole Shift' then !!


Fredkc

Re: Timeline Change??
Operator;
Sorry, yer on your own.
I dropped the hollow earth thing in the same drawer as the flat earth thing decades ago.

re. the pole shift thing... simple.
If the holes weren't at the top and bottom, then inner earth would have filled up during the flood.
Think before you ask this stuff!

Yes I thought about this also... If Tone3 is correct then the holes just fill up!!

We have scientific proof now that we have had Pole shifts in the past!! With Antartica showing no ice on Piri Reis map, and mammoths found in siberia with tropcal plants in there bodies not even digested indicating warmer weather...ect etc... So we know this has happened in the past...

viking

[FrankoL]

In my opinion "time" will change when free energy will be available. I think this will the best start to change mass conciseness. Until than all will be the same (in all aspects).

[Operator]

Operator;
Sorry, yer on your own.
I dropped the hollow earth thing in the same drawer as the flat earth thing decades ago. ;)

I didn't even say I believed it ... I said it is all contradicting. Most of it is too incredible anyway.



re. the pole shift thing... simple.
If the holes weren't at the top and bottom, then inner earth would have filled up during the flood.
Think before you ask this stuff!


Well maybe that was the problem I WAS thinking ... sort of ... because I came to the same conclusion as you did ... didn't I ?


Maybe that's the best idea, making fun of it:thumb:

[yiolas]

Hi Viking, Thanks for bringing up this topic ! It's time that we view in a constructive manner the possibility of Planet X and the pole shift.

I particularly like that you bring in to question the possibility of altering the time line of catastrophic events via our conscious efforts.

I personally believe that each of us steers our future with our thoughts ,feelings and actions. We draw to us that which we resonate with. Our powers of manifestation are increasing daily ,particularly now during this period of galactic alignment and passage through the photon belt.

Therefore, my contention is that with right thought and a service to others mentality, we might be able to either mitigate a catastrophic passage of Planet X or as many believe pass through with the new earth into the 5th dimension with our bodies intact and perhaps with a few more strands of dna.

[Steven]

...What about the Pole Shift or Cataclysmic earth change.

The Pole Shift or cataclysmic weather changes have happened evry 3600 - 4000 years... Where do you get this information?

The ice cores show that we have had a cataclysmic event every 3600 years…and that 3600 years ago we had the sudden collapse of various civilisation… Again, where do you get these information?

Apply the question to the 'Pole Shift' then !!

What I know about Earth's crust shift is a theory brought by Charles Hapgood in his book 'The earth shifting crust' foreword signed by Albert Einstein in 1958. But its not about the whole planet to turn upside down, but rather the outer crust of Earth moving due to the formation of ice cap at the poles, creating an imbalanced in Earth weight and resulting into the moving of the Earth's crust of some 23 degrees. Its a theory that have since been 'replaced' by the tectonic plates movement.

Here a bit of this man : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hapgood

Of course, many propheties connected to 2012 use this 'idea', transform it into 'pole shift idea' and bombards us with facts most of the time, quite irrelevant and unconfirmed.

On the other hand, there is a real will among our Elites to see a drastical reduction in Earth's population. Considering they know a lot about our abilities to create our own nightmares unconsciously by manipulating our focus and attention, what an efficient way to help them to create our worse fear by bombarding us with desaster's theory and encouraging end of the world ideas. The Hollywood movie '2012' should give you a good hint at this game.

Namaste, Steven

[Eric J (Viking)]

What I know about Earth's crust shift is a theory brought by Charles Hapgood in his book 'The earth shifting crust' foreword signed by Albert Einstein in 1958. But its not about the whole planet to turn upside down, but rather the outer crust of Earth moving due to the formation of ice cap at the poles, creating an imbalanced in Earth weight and resulting into the moving of the Earth's crust of some 23 degrees. Its a theory that have since been 'replaced' by the tectonic plates movement.

Here a bit of this man : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hapgood

Of course, many propheties connected to 2012 use this 'idea', transform it into 'pole shift idea' and bombards us with facts most of the time, quite irrelevant and unconfirmed.

On the other hand, there is a real will among our Elites to see a drastical reduction in Earth's population. Considering they know a lot about our abilities to create our own nightmares unconsciously by manipulating our focus and attention, what an efficient way to help them to create our worse fear by bombarding us with desaster's theory and encouraging end of the world ideas. The Hollywood movie '2012' should give you a good hint at this game.

Namaste, Steven

It doesn't really matter how you interprete these shifts...the proof is in the pudding, so to speak...It has happened before many times...interpretion is open to all sorts...just think of the physical side.

You know and I know about the power of mind and what we can achieve with our collected conciusness Steven. We have spoke about this many time before...Remember my thread on AV1..'2012 Calamity or accension?' ?

The problem we will find that if we only have lets say 25% STO then that negates all the postive conciousness towards a better outcome...am I wrong on this??

Put it this way....

If we have a Hundred people sitting in a stadium all knowing that we can control whatever with our thoughts, ok? Now lets say we have only 20 thinking one way and the other 80 thinking another way!! Which group will come away with the prize??

viking

[Steven]

It doesn't really matter how you interprete these shifts...the proof is in the pudding, so to speak...It has happened before many times...interpretion is open to all sorts...just think of the physical side. As long as the facts are real and not assumptions...

You know and I know about the power of mind and what we can achieve with our collected conciusness Steven. We have spoke about this many time before...Remember my thread on AV1..'2012 Calamity or accension?' ?

The problem we will find that if we only have lets say 25% STO then that negates all the postive conciousness towards a better outcome...am I wrong on this??

Put it this way....

If we have a Hundred people sitting in a stadium all knowing that we can control whatever with our thoughts, ok? Now lets say we have only 20 thinking one way and the other 80 thinking another way!! Which group will come away with the prize?? The group that creates the most powerful focus and is the closer to the goal from the beggining.

It only takes a few dedicated people to create great positive change in our society, it has always been this way. Just take the participation of women's suffrage as an example. It was the strong dedication and focus of a few women that created the tide for a shift. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage)

If your focused intention is in harmony with Creation's natural flow of evolution, it only takes a few to make drastical positive change in our society. The mass will follow.

viking

And to be honest, the whole service-to-self versus service-to-others concept is kind of distractive. You can be in service to self and service to others at the same time, in fact, you can be in service to others, service to self and service to Creation at the same time ;)

Namaste, Steven

[blue777]

hello blue. Thinking about your harmonics aproach to it, I noticed that you only mentioned the chordal positive harmonics. There are dischordal negative harmonics too ( not sure if I used the right terminology for all that ).

Perhaps that's IT!..... just keep the harmonics positive. Snag is..... no matter how much we amplify the positive harmonics, as long as the source of the negative harmonics exists, the negative harmonics will keep on beating off all our positive harmonics making our effort produce more of everything, including the negative disschordal content.

We still have to stop the source of the negative harmonics. We won't just get away with ignoring it. It has to be stopped.

Not sure how any of this would stop an incoming orbital object though.

Hello Norman ,just got in, good point you are making
We are working with sound frequencies , as everything at the atomic level vibrates , therefore if you can find the harmonic resonance of anything for example the Tibetan and Egyptians raised heavy stones with drums ,trumpets and voices...and it becomes weightless..therefore , positive thought is also sound...silent sound would negate negative sound ..neutralize it and turn the planet or comet away with collective consciousness...
OK
LOL
blue/dominic

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And to be honest, the whole service-to-self versus service-to-others concept is kind of distractive. You can be in service to self and service to others at the same time, in fact, you can be in service to others, service to self and service to Creation at the same time ;)

Namaste, Steven

Steven it sounds lke a self service shop
lol
but I agree
lol
blue/dominic

[Celine]

Blue,

What a great "image"..the sound of voices lifting large stones.

[blue777]

Blue,

What a great "image"..the sound of voices lifting large stones.

Hello Celine , that is a fact, harmonic resonance will make an object weightless.....all we need now is the collective consciousness to be positive..we only got to get six and half billion more people

lol
blue

[Steven]

Blue,

What a great "image"..the sound of voices lifting large stones.

It is off topic, but you may want to look at this Celine : http://coralcastle.com/

Namaste, Steven

[Lyricus]

*clears throat* Well.....

I think that concious thought can change time lines but you'd have a heck of time proving this. When predictions don't come to pass [as is often the case] we assume that the soothsayer got it wrong. [blossom goodchild anyone?].

Lets take the coming of of Nibiru/planet x/ wormwood etc, if we were all to accept and look for it I dare say we would find it. There's countless websites, books, youtube videos all detailing the very negative impact of such a crossing and many are quaking in their boots at the prospect of a pole shift and cataclysmic weather type events. Now if we were to shrug our shoulders and turn the other cheek what would happen.? Would this event cease to happen or will we all get caught with our trousers down and get blown into kingdom come?

This is a good topic and i've often wondered what affect the global conciousness has on real time events........whatever happened to swine flu?....

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Steven... I can relate to one positive thought counteracting any negative...lets hope we are big enough to combat the negative...


Blue...
Hello Norman ,just got in, good point you are making
We are working with sound frequencies , as everything at the atomic level vibrates , therefore if you can find the harmonic resonance of anything for example the Tibetan and Egyptians raised heavy stones with drums ,trumpets and voices...and it becomes weightless..therefore , positive thought is also sound...silent sound would negate negative sound ..neutralize it and turn the planet or comet away with collective consciousness...

Blue I like the sound of sound frequencies and am aware of the powers as steven pointed out with the link...if only we knew what he did!!! GRRRR!!!

Anyway how would we use the sound frequencies with our conciousness towards neutralizing a physical mass??

Listen, there is no right or wrong answer here...but its great that we can all input and take something from here as a positive...

viking

[blue777]

quote
Now if we were to shrug our shoulders and turn the other cheek what would happen.?

you would get Hit by Planet X

LOL
BLUE

[blue777]

Thanks Steven... I can relate to one positive thought counteracting any negative...lets hope we are big enough to combat the negative...



Blue I like the sound of sound frequencies and am aware of the powers as steven pointed out with the link...if only we knew what he did!!! GRRRR!!!

Anyway how would we use the sound frequencies with our conciousness towards neutralizing a physical mass??

Listen, there is no right or wrong answer here...but its great that we can all input and take something from here as a positive...

viking

Anyway how would we use the sound frequencies with our conciousness towards neutralizing a physical mass??
Consciousness is positive sound , archetypal big bang .....therefore a positive collective consciousness would create a massive positive energy force , to neutralize the mass(negative energy)comet and neutralize the power of it ,if it breaks the roche limit as it comes near to earth
lol
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Anyway how would we use the sound frequencies with our conciousness towards neutralizing a physical mass??
Consciousness is positive sound , archetypal big bang .....therefore a positive collective consciousness would create a massive positive energy force , to neutralize the mass(negative energy)comet and neutralize the power of it ,if it breaks the roche limit as it comes near to earth
lol
blue/dominic

Cheers Blue ...

So what you are saying is that our collected conciousness of thoughts will create a sound frequency towards a directed target and soften if not rid of the problem...

Can you define 'roche limit'

viking

[Lyricus]

quote
Now if we were to shrug our shoulders and turn the other cheek what would happen.?

you would get Hit by Planet X

LOL
BLUE

Ha ha ha ha! you have a point Blue.

[blue777]

Cheers Blue ...

So what you are saying is that our collected conciousness of thoughts will create a sound frequency towards a directed target and soften if not rid of the problem...

Can you define 'roche limit'

viking

Collective positive thought...consciousness, could find the harmonic resonance of an oncoming star or planet, neutralize it and make it weightless...hence when it comes near the earth and breaks the roche limit( the distance a comet or star that is allowed to come near the earth before we get, earthquakes tsunamis etc. tHEREFORE THE FUTURE IS IN our own hands
lol
blue/dominic

[Deega]

Hello all...your thoughts please...

Ok, I have been here for a good few years now and have been aware of Planet X for ages and understand the basics of what we are to expect if this huge body approaches and fly's by.

But I was wondering with our collective conciousness, could we change the timeline???

I have listened to and watched many truthseekers and certain events haven't panned out as they have described. They then say that we have managed to steer away from disaster and we are on a different time line!! This has happened many times before with some of the top 'truthseekers' ...Is this an excuse for 'ooops I messed up' and to say 'we are on a different timeline' an escape route, so to speak.

I am not going to mention any names but you can do your own reseach. I am sure you are aware of some!!

So to all you very clever people and enlightened beings.

Can we change the timeline we are on and create a new world without the mega disasters??

And if so, does it mean that the 'truthseekers' on forums that push the Planet X or pole Shift agenda are on a differnent timeline?? I think you all know where I'm coming from!!

Viking


Here is a few comments.

I became aware of Planet X for the first time in the ’90. From what I read at the time, there was a black planet having an orbit in our solar system, someone at the time surely had similar thoughts as we have.

Timeline change – I think that if the collective consciousness is organized such that all the people on Earth start to meditate on changing the timeline to avoid the coming (?) of Planet X, I think that it would have its influence and it could probably be done, who knows…! But one thing is possible, the vibration sends from our meditation would somehow touched our Creator, he/they is/are more powerful that we are together…!

But I wonder if we wouldn’t have to pay the price. If ever, we have success in deviating the timeline, someone else will have to live what we have escaped and there should be a rendition as per the karma, responsibility ! So I wonder if we do change the timeline, we are creating another event that could be far more difficult (my intuition)…?, and I don’t know what it could be…?

I think that we should work on something else, if Planet X comes (?) by in our solar system, we need to meditate that in our orbit around the Sun, we would be protected by the Sun, from what I have read, Earth wouldn’t be disturbed as much as if Earth is caught up between the Sun and Planet X when passed by.

All my blessings.

Deega

[Humble Janitor]

Planet X is a myth propagated by an individual who decided that his interpretation of the Sumerian texts was accurate.

But, haven't scientists mentioned a brown dwarf near the sun a few times?

[Wookie]

Hellow sound cancellation is a interesting topic. http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/noise_cancellation.htm not a bad site to get a bit of back ground information on it. Sound is energy and we can cancel it out by adding the same sound 180° out of phase. Now if everthing else is also energy would it not be possible to cancel out anything in the same way. Very complex but possible? As for predictions not coming to pass being blamed on altered time lines, thats as good of an out as any and it fits into the ideology. Did we change time lines or was the prediction just wrong? IMO both at the same time :wacko:

[Arpheus]

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that world govt's out there have holographic tech capable of hiding what we can see in outer space from here,i bet they can do that and if thats the case if there was a planet x nibiru or hercolobus whatever you want to name it,it could be right around the corner even if visible to human eye in the sky and we wouldnt be able to see it with naked eye cause they got holographic tech to hide from our view perhaps?Some food for thought hehe!!:music:

[noxon medem]

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There are so many clever answers here,
so this is just an illustration:

(click on image to enlarge, or just
sit there and wish for it to happen)
1547

Is reality so infinately individual and flexible ?
Maybe you can ask someone else to look for you.
..
It is beyond doubt that in ones own life, your consciousness
and decisions will alter your personal future, or timeline.
(But nobody live in a vacuum, at least without a spacesuit)
That goes for everybody, so the question is:
- What, and How, is the common framework in all of this ?
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I think life at its base is very simple.
And I believe mysteries have such a huge personal and
energetic value, like taboos, that we will never be able
to eradicate them, even if we wanted.

Humanity, with our temporary mortal existence has infinate potential
in that direction. You can spend all your time, many lifetimes worth,
and figure out every question and uncover all that's hidden in this
illusion. Only for the next generation, or your nextdoor neighbour,
to totally ignore you, or even abuse you, if you try to tell them.
- Well, now you know why.
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What was it he said in that movie:
If complexity doesn't get you, paradox will ...
..

[Chakra]

Hi there
About timelines - how about everyone is right - based on the timeline of the dimension they are 'seeing'. They are right for that time line. Do they have the discernment to be 100% sure about which one they are seeing?

From what I understand EVEN those of the ascended realm are not 100% sure because of the simple act of free will and the choices made. Because we have our free will - if those that don't show up, at the last minute to do their part, for whatever reason will change the course of events.

Also timelines / cycles can be effected here by either cleaning up karma or holding it back to clean up at another time. Good cycles though to clean up karma can be missed as well and then make more karma.

Like the dust bunnies that don't go away if you just sweep them under the carpet. After 50 years you may get a pretty good size lump of dust bunnies - someone trips on the lump hits their head and dies prematurily. You got the karma of procrastion and the karma that that person didn't get the chance to clean up and the domino effect goes on .... lesson - just sweep up the damn dust bunnies! :)

It all has to do with the karma of this dimension and how many people do their part in their world to fix it and thus help change planetary Karma.

Sound works - 'let there be light'! The RIGHT Sound though, (not rock &/or syncopated - I will get a negative blast on that one I am sure :) AUM - Sacred music, Chant, prayer, proper intention, love, forgiveness, all will clean up karma. Big Karma - the more people needed.

Personally I don't see the point in using that much energy in trying to prevent a planetary size body from entering the solar system. BUT we can definitely help prevent the effects it could have on our earth. Willows bend - Oaks can be toppled.

Yes we need to clean up the karma, BUT and the biggest hardest part is don't allow more to be made. This is often the hardest because that means people need to open their eyes and see the truth. They need to see what they did - in believing the lie - to contribute to the karma.

Karma also is like the Magnetic attraction between two poles. The same pole's repel opposite poles attract. Be non - magnetic, doesn't attract - stick or repel. In other words - we have to all be also non-magnetic and balanced within. :)

[blue777]

Hi there
About timelines - how about everyone is right - based on the timeline of the dimension they are 'seeing'. They are right for that time line. Do they have the discernment to be 100% sure about which one they are seeing?

From what I understand EVEN those of the ascended realm are not 100% sure because of the simple act of free will and the choices made. Because we have our free will - if those that don't show up, at the last minute to do their part, for whatever reason will change the course of events.

Also timelines / cycles can be effected here by either cleaning up karma or holding it back to clean up at another time. Good cycles though to clean up karma can be missed as well and then make more karma.

Like the dust bunnies that don't go away if you just sweep them under the carpet. After 50 years you may get a pretty good size lump of dust bunnies - someone trips on the lump hits their head and dies prematurily. You got the karma of procrastion and the karma that that person didn't get the chance to clean up and the domino effect goes on .... lesson - just sweep up the damn dust bunnies! :)

It all has to do with the karma of this dimension and how many people do their part in their world to fix it and thus help change planetary Karma.

Sound works - 'let there be light'! The RIGHT Sound though, (not rock &/or syncopated - I will get a negative blast on that one I am sure :) AUM - Sacred music, Chant, prayer, proper intention, love, forgiveness, all will clean up karma. Big Karma - the more people needed.

Personally I don't see the point in using that much energy in trying to prevent a planetary size body from entering the solar system. BUT we can definitely help prevent the effects it could have on our earth. Willows bend - Oaks can be toppled.

Yes we need to clean up the karma, BUT and the biggest hardest part is don't allow more to be made. This is often the hardest because that means people need to open their eyes and see the truth. They need to see what they did - in believing the lie - to contribute to the karma.

Karma also is like the Magnetic attraction between two poles. The same pole's repel opposite poles attract. Be non - magnetic, doesn't attract - stick or repel. In other words - we have to all be also non-magnetic and balanced within. :)

IMO...Sympathetic Resonance re; weightlessness as practiced by the Tibetans, using sound harmonics , trumpets drums and voice.I They could lift massive weights which became light as a feather for building . The same principle could be defined by using Sympathetic Resonance with the collective consciousness.Thought(silent sense, energy)positive thought , positive sound could negate negatve sound Matter i.e comet or Star..or a comet fly-by near to earth..planet X .tHIS IS NOT MIND OVER MATTER , BUT POSITIVE ENERGY VERSES NEGATIVE ENERGY DONE THROUGH CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH IS A POSITIVE ENERGY, THE CREATOR..this will neutralize the heavenly body if it breaks the Roche limit(roche means breaking the distance which a heavenly body can come near to earth a, ,which will create Earthquakes, Tsunamis Huricanes etc......The positive collective consciousness , positive energy is a higher level order in the construction of the Universe linked to the Fibonacci series.This means that the future timeline is in our own hands
lol
blue/dominic
P.s there will be no syncopation involved , it will be done in Harmonious way.These are my thoughts straight from the soul, in a veritable minefield of data and disinformation ,i had to go through...THE KEYS ARE ALWAYS POSITIVE which will guarantee to enlighten.
love of light
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey thanks for all the replies..awesome!!

So what we are saying here is that we are in control of our future, and that our conciousness can change the shape of the outcome no matter how severe...as long as we are are united with the same thought process or pattern within our conciousness...

I was just thinking last night. How does this time compare to all the previous catastrophies...which have happened every 3600 years or so?

How did the atlanteans fair with conciousness...were they tuned into there higher self or were they not that adavanced in this area??

Perhaps the enligtened ones sort of ascended to a higher plain of existance and the others stayed here to further the lessons...

Or is it a question that this time round is different as we are approaching the 26000 year cycle? :confused:

Hey we'll know soon enough...

It's interesting to see other responses I have had on other forums...!!

viking

[blue777]

Hey thanks for all the replies..awesome!!

So what we are saying here is that we are in control of our future, and that our conciousness can change the shape of the outcome no matter how severe...as long as we are are united with the same thought process or pattern within our conciousness...

I was just thinking last night. How does this time compare to all the previous catastrophies...which have happened every 3600 years or so?

How did the atlanteans fair with conciousness...were they tuned into there higher self or were they not that adavanced in this area??

Perhaps the enligtened ones sort of ascended to a higher plain of existance and the others stayed here to further the lessons...

Or is it a question that this time round is different as we are approaching the 26000 year cycle? :confused:

Hey we'll know soon enough...

It's interesting to see other responses I have had on other forums...!!

viking

It is not different , both consciousness and bodies have to be changed. The body to crystalline body by negating all the carbon within us..negating the EGO /FEAR PARADOX
LOL
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Blue this is what the Phoenix Journels say....

quote...
Aliens - The Star People aboard their Starships now orbiting Earth Shan, who have come to our Earth at this time from more than two hundred other Star Nations. They are called the "Hosts of Heaven" and have come in peace and love to help our planet and her people in our Ascension into fifth dimension by 2012. They have come by orders from Creator God without violence or evil and bring much love, education and new technology to assist us in better health and in cleaning up the pollution on our planet.
Ascension - the changing from third dimension (3D) to fifth dimension (5D), to rise in frequencies. Our bodies are presently changing from a carbon-based cell to a crystalline-based cell to accommodate these higher frequencies. Our planet and those who choose to do so will soon be moving into the fifth dimension.

viking

[blue777]

Hey Blue this is what the Phoenix Journels say....

quote...
Aliens - The Star People aboard their Starships now orbiting Earth Shan, who have come to our Earth at this time from more than two hundred other Star Nations. They are called the "Hosts of Heaven" and have come in peace and love to help our planet and her people in our Ascension into fifth dimension by 2012. They have come by orders from Creator God without violence or evil and bring much love, education and new technology to assist us in better health and in cleaning up the pollution on our planet.
Ascension - the changing from third dimension (3D) to fifth dimension (5D), to rise in frequencies. Our bodies are presently changing from a carbon-based cell to a crystalline-based cell to accommodate these higher frequencies. Our planet and those who choose to do so will soon be moving into the fifth dimension.

viking

Therefore people need to conquer the Fear/ego paradox to get to these higher frequencies..it is not easy
lol/blue

[freespirit]

Hello all...your thoughts please...

Ok, I have been here for a good few years now and have been aware of Planet X for ages and understand the basics of what we are to expect if this huge body approaches and fly's by.

But I was wondering with our collective conciousness, could we change the timeline???

I have listened to and watched many truthseekers and certain events haven't panned out as they have described. They then say that we have managed to steer away from disaster and we are on a different time line!! This has happened many times before with some of the top 'truthseekers' ...Is this an excuse for 'ooops I messed up' and to say 'we are on a different timeline' an escape route, so to speak.

I am not going to mention any names but you can do your own reseach. I am sure you are aware of some!!

So to all you very clever people and enlightened beings.

Can we change the timeline we are on and create a new world without the mega disasters??

And if so, does it mean that the 'truthseekers' on forums that push the Planet X or pole Shift agenda are on a differnent timeline?? I think you all know where I'm coming from!!

Viking

Hey Viking

I was fascinated by the Planet X theory for sometime and it is still probable there exists large planetary body's that orbit our Solar System.I even bought the books (sitchin) and if anything
they where a good read.They are many amateur astronomers watching the sky day and night
whom could/should spot px.

Speaking collectively we the human race have been living in the golden times.From scratching
our backsides in the mud too smashing sub-atomic particles together.But let us remember the Solar System isn't a static system
http://www.twinlitworlds.com/hubble/pix/jpgsfull/shoelevy.jpg
Shoemaker-Levy 9, prior to Jupiter collision

The question i ask myself is not will it happen but will it happen in my lifetime.

'It's all quantum man'
We are told that all matter atomic-sub-atomic exists in a local-non-local state only becoming local when you take a look (the measurement problem).Thinking about PX or some other equally
disastrous event my affect the probability of that event becoming.This is a great idea if what you wish for i.e. Disclosure happens not good if your worried about rocks falling from the sky.

while searching the other day on the subject of the 'collective conciousness' I came upon this-
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

[greybeard]

Therefore people need to conquer the Fear/ego paradox to get to these higher frequencies..it is not easy
lol/blue

hi blue 777
in agreement.
Also with note to other posts.
All humans have always had the possibility of Kundalini awakening which changes the physical nervous system to accommodate a higher frequency vibration and on to enlightenment.
Because we live in a low vibration environment this has not happened for many as yet.
Time line is a concept which may or may not be so.
I would be wary of any channeling that states that something is happening because God/creator commanded it.
Creator just requires to have a thought and it happens.
The history of this world is strewn with acts of war in the name of God.
To the best of my knowledge God has never spoken directly via a voice to any "sane" human.
Our part in all this is to raise our individual consciousness as best we can therefore lifting collective consciousness.
not easy easy as blue777 says but very necessary now.
We cant sit back and expect to be "saved" without making at least a spiritual intention.
Regards Chris

[blue777]

Thanks Chris, i totally agree in what you are saying
love of light
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Viking

I was fascinated by the Planet X theory for sometime and it is still probable there exists large planetary body's that orbit our Solar System.I even bought the books (sitchin) and if anything
they where a good read.They are many amateur astronomers watching the sky day and night
whom could/should spot px.

Speaking collectively we the human race have been living in the golden times.From scratching
our backsides in the mud too smashing sub-atomic particles together.But let us remember the Solar System isn't a static system
http://www.twinlitworlds.com/hubble/pix/jpgsfull/shoelevy.jpg
Shoemaker-Levy 9, prior to Jupiter collision

The question i ask myself is not will it happen but will it happen in my lifetime.

'It's all quantum man'
We are told that all matter atomic-sub-atomic exists in a local-non-local state only becoming local when you take a look (the measurement problem).Thinking about PX or some other equally
disastrous event my affect the probability of that event becoming.This is a great idea if what you wish for i.e. Disclosure happens not good if your worried about rocks falling from the sky.

while searching the other day on the subject of the 'collective conciousness' I came upon this-
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

Hi freespirit ... It holds facination for me as well...thats not to say it controls me...

I find the whole topic facinating with the conneciton Pole shifts ect etc ...and the chages we went through with Lumeria and Atlantis ect etc ...

The hum is very hypnotic !! How can the Generator pick up Conciousness though?

viking

[Steven]

...which have happened every 3600 years or so?...

Hi Viking,

I am still waiting where you get this idea about catastrophe happening every 3600 years or so. I got my idea about it, but I want yours.

Namaste, Steven

[westhill]

First off we never do anything alone and we are capable of anything! Giving birth, creating art, moving planets come from the same place. This is not a physical thing. Ask/reflect on what do you want/need for yourself and others (if you believe people won't wake up unless shaken then look for planet X). I also think the idea of a "line" in time doesn't allow for the paradoxes. It's not a tightrope or an arrow shot out in space. There is lots of room for variation and outcomes depending on what you require. Bye for now... Leigh

[blue777]

Hi Viking,

I am still waiting where you get this idea about catastrophe happening every 3600 years or so. I got my idea about it, but I want yours.

Namaste, Steven
I think Viking was referring to Velikovsky.and the .sliding crust, periodic cataclysms?
If this sounds like pole shift caused by the periodic passage of the Planet of the Crossing, aka Nibiru or Planet X, that's exactly what everyone was looking at and is trying to puzzle out.
love of light
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Viking,

I am still waiting where you get this idea about catastrophe happening every 3600 years or so. I got my idea about it, but I want yours.

Namaste, Steven

Hello Steven I didn't realize you were waiting for it...

Well first of all I remember seeing a documentary which stated that some experts were examining the ice cores in Antartica and various rock sediments...anyway they worked out that we have had a complete change in the weather patterns every 3600-4000 years.

I also have read this in book...perhaps Velikovsky as Blue has mentioned...

The latest study by a chap called Lucas who runs the web site 'The Rabbit Hole'...(which incidentely has been hacked and taken over a few time...he now has a new web site)...he has confirmed what the documentary had stated and others...

go here for his detailed explanation of timing scales for changes...
http://www.rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/chart1_small.jpg

Can you tell me your idea Steven??

viking

[blue777]

Hello Steven I didn't realize you were waiting for it...

Well first of all I remember seeing a documentary which stated that some experts were examining the ice cores in Antartica and various rock sediments...anyway they worked out that we have had a complete change in the weather patterns every 3600-4000 years.

I also have read this in book...perhaps Velikovsky as Blue has mentioned...

The latest study by a chap called Lucas who runs the web site 'The Rabbit Hole'...(which incidentely has been hacked and taken over a few time...he now has a new web site)...he has confirmed what the documentary had stated and others...

go here for his detailed explanation of timing scales for changes...
http://www.rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/chart1_small.jpg

Can you tell me your idea Steven??

viking

That sounds interesting....quote;
Well first of all I remember seeing a documentary which stated that some experts were examining the ice cores in Antartica and various rock sediments...anyway they worked out that we have had a complete change in the weather patterns every 3600-4000 years.

Is that compatible with the planet X scenario and will it cause a axis-mundi shift?
regards
blue

[Eric J (Viking)]

Wel all I'm trying to do Blue is connect the dots ... Yes they say that the supposed Nibiru/Planet X/Herboculus comes round every so often and yes its about that time scale if you do your research...I'm sure you have ;-0

When you say axis -mundi...do you mean making a connection to the higher realms?? a coming together.... 5D?? If so yes... regardless of what going to happen with our beloved Gaia we will be transformed as well ... but you already know this...

viking

[Deega]

Hey thanks for all the replies..awesome!!

So what we are saying here is that we are in control of our future, and that our conciousness can change the shape of the outcome no matter how severe...as long as we are are united with the same thought process or pattern within our conciousness...



It's interesting to see other responses I have had on other forums...!!

viking


Hi Viking,

I wonder what people were saying in "other forums" on the subject, may you share a little, does it have some ressemblances...?

All my blessings.

Deega

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Viking,

I wonder what people were saying in "other forums" on the subject, may you share a little, does it have some ressemblances...?

All my blessings.

Deega

Well the comments are quite varied ... I'll let you decide for yourself!!

PM me and I will send you the links ... then you can comment here if you wish...

I would just like to say we all have different opinions and are all trying to connect the dots... THE WHOLE TRUTH is a difficult one!!! The truth is none of us here know exactly what is!

We all have little pieces to add to the picture...

viking

[freespirit]

The hum is very hypnotic !! How can the Generator pick up Conciousness though?

viking

The idea is that large scale global events which weight on our minds affect the outcome of the numbers.

try it with this weeks lottery numbers if you win I want half

[blue777]

Wel all I'm trying to do Blue is connect the dots ... Yes they say that the supposed Nibiru/Planet X/Herboculus comes round every so often and yes its about that time scale if you do your research...I'm sure you have ;-0

When you say axis -mundi...do you mean making a connection to the higher realms?? a coming together.... 5D?? If so yes... regardless of what going to happen with our beloved Gaia we will be transformed as well ... but you already know this...

viking

by Axis -Mundi , I meant the pole shift, keep up the good work
regards
blue/dominic

[Steven]

Hello Steven I didn't realize you were waiting for it... It's no problem friend.

...I also have read this in book...perhaps Velikovsky as Blue has mentioned...That's what I think too.

The latest study by a chap called Lucas who runs the web site 'The Rabbit Hole'...(which incidentely has been hacked and taken over a few time...he now has a new web site)...he has confirmed what the documentary had stated and others... Didn't know about this one.

Can you tell me your idea Steven?? Sure, I think this whole idea of a period of 3600 years comes from originally Immanuel Velikovsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky) in his book 'worlds in collision'. The problem with this man his that most of his theory are still consider by a vast majority of scientists totally inaccurate. He is highly controversial and the whole scientific community totally rejected his theories. Even Carl Sagan himself made several critiques about Velikovsky's theories. Quotes from wikipedia: 'Sagan gave a critique of Velikovsky's ideas (the book version of Sagan's critique is much longer than that presented in the talk; see below (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky#References)). His criticisms are available in Scientists Confront Velikovsky[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky#cite_note-34) and as a corrected and revised version in the book Broca's Brain: Reflections on the Romance of Science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broca%27s_Brain:_Reflections_on_the_Romance_of_Science).[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky#cite_note-35) Sagan's arguments were aimed at a popular audience and he did not bother to remain to debate Velikovsky in person, facts that were used by Velikovsky's followers to attempt to discredit his analysis.[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky#cite_note-36) Sagan rebutted these charges, and further attacked Velikovsky's ideas in his PBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS) television series Cosmos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Personal_Voyage), though not without reprimanding scientists who attempted to suppress Velikovsky's ideas.'


What is sad about it all, is that many websites, theorists, pseudo-experts, based there 'new' ideas of a cycle of 3600 years for worldwide cataclysm, which was by the way not the main ideas of Velikovsky, his ideas were more about drastical regional change, like the great flood, on Velikovsky's proven false assumptions.

That is why it is important to head back to the source of the first original idea/theory to verify assumptions from real facts in Earth's history.

viking

Namaste, Steven

[Eric J (Viking)]

The latest study by a chap called Lucas who runs the web site 'The Rabbit Hole'...(which incidentely has been hacked and taken over a few time...he now has a new web site)...he has confirmed what the documentary had stated and others... Didn't know about this one.Namaste, Steven

Hey Steven...Thanks for your reply... The 'Truth' hey!! LOL !! Who knows?? Check out the Rabbit hole...interesting stuff!!

Hey Steven I could do a whole thread on this if you wish...we will always find a way to dis-credit anything that doesn't sit well in our comfort zone!!

Anyway we can get back on track with conciousness 'one of your favourite topics' if you wish

I found this on my travels...

Planet X and the Mysterious Death of Dr. Robert Harrington

Dr. Robert S. HarringtonDr. Robert S. Harrington, the chief astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory, died before he could publicize the fact that Planet X is approaching our Solar System.

Many feel his death part of a cove-up? One in which government agencies quickly moved to conceal the most earth-shaking discovery in history. If so, the search for truth begins in New Zealand.

In 1991, Dr. Robert S. Harrington, the chief astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory, took a puny 8-inch telescope to Black Birch, New Zealand, one of the few viewing points on Earth optimal for sighting Planet X, which he definitively calculated to be approaching from below the ecliptic at an angle of 40 degrees.

However, the source below quotes Dr. Harrington as predicting 30 degrees, not 40.

The Independent, September 18, 1990
Lexical priming and the properties of text, quotation of British newspaper,

Dr Harrington says the most remarkable feature predicted for Planet X is that its orbit is tilted 30 degrees away from the ecliptic, the main plane of the solar system, where all previous searches have concentrated. His models also predict a greater distance from the Sun, about 10 billion miles, or between two or three times as distant as Pluto.

By analyzing time-lapse photographs using the "blink comparison" technique, originated by famed Pluto discoverer, Clyde Tombaugh, Dr. Harrington proved that Planet X was indeed inbound into our Solar System. Harrington sent back reports of this ominous discovery, but died of what was reported to be esophageal cancer before he could pack up his telescope and come home to hold what would have been a highly publicized press conference.

The source below indicates that Harrington began the search at Black Birch in April, 1991, two years before his death. However, considering the painstaking process of trying to find a distant needle in a very large haystack, two years is not much time at all.

The Independent, September 18, 1990
Lexical priming and the properties of text, quotation of British newspaper

In April (1991) the new sweep starts in earnest at the Black Birch Observatory in New Zealand. A modest 8in telescope, similar to that used by Mr Tombaugh, will examine the northern part of the constellation Centaurus. Pairs of photographs of the same region of sky taken on successive nights will be sent to Washington. Using a blink comparator, a device that compares two photographs, Dr Harrington hopes to locate any faint object that has moved during the interval between the two pictures.

Weigh together the following numerous facts:

1.

Publicity of Harrington's discovery would pose a great threat to the social, political, and economic stability of the World;
2. It is extremely unlikely that a man would contract cancer and die within a matter of days, suffering the sudden impact of pain and debilitation characteristic of rapid onset cancer, while miraculously traveling on a physically demanding expedition and performing intensive astronomical operations. From his obituary:

Robert (Bob) Harrington died on Jan. 23, 1993 after a short, but determined, battle against esophageal cancer. He left his wife, Betty, two daughters, a sister, and his parents.

3. Even though Dr. Harrington died before he could publicize the fact that Planet X is approaching our Solar System, the U.S. Naval Observatory was apprised of it, as was NASA, yet these government agencies concealed this most earth-shaking discovery in history; (This appears to be true, as this writer spent a week searching the Internet for information to the contrary and found none.)

4. Furthermore, in publishing Dr. Harrington's obituary, the U.S. Naval Observatory went out of its way to gratuitously lie about Dr. Harrington's final achievement, stating that "in his final years, Dr. Harrington had lost interest in the" [two-century astronomical] "search for Planet X." The obituary had the following to say about Planet X:

Considerations on the stability of the solar system led Bob to collaborate with T.C. Van Flandern in studies of the dynamical evolution of its satellites, and to an eventual search for "Planet X", conjectured to lie beyond Pluto and to be responsible for small, unexplained, residuals in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune. Late in his career Bob seemed quite skeptical of such an object, however.

5. Secrecy about the approach of Planet X could have been much better achieved by NOT mentioning Harrington's interests in his later years; so why did they concoct this lie gratuitously? Because they are not very clever, this brain trust ensconced within the bowels of the national intelligence apparatus.

6. Dr. Harrington's colleague in the search for Planet X, Dr. Tom Van Flandern reversed his affirmative statements about the approach of Planet X and became peculiarly silent on the issue. In Meta Research Bulletin 4:3 (September 1999), he states:

"Three more trans-Neptunian objects confirm the presence of a second asteroid belt in the region beyond Neptune. This probably indicates that the hypothetical Planet X is now an asteroid belt rather than an intact planet."

7. As long ago as Dec. 30, 1983, the Washington Post published a front-page article announcing the discovery, by the Infrared Astronomical Satellite, of this very same celestial object, calling it "a heavenly body, possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter, and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of our solar system"; yet, this great scientific heralding was immediately reversed as the news media fell astoundingly silent, and has been silent for the past quarter-century. Here is a clip from that report.

Washington Post, December 30, 1983
Possibly as Large as Jupiter

The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time. "This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 billion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time."

If a massive planet and its entourage was approaching our Solar System one quarter-century ago, and the media chose to conceal it, does this wrecking ball suddenly become a soap bubble? Or does the fear-bred silence of the powers-that-be suggest that they are desperately protecting their empire of social, political, and economic domination for as long as possible before they duck into their elaborate underground cities in a wishful attempt to survive God's promised wrath, now hurtling toward us all?

viking

[Steven]

Hey Steven...Thanks for your reply... The 'Truth' hey!! LOL !! Who knows?? Check out the Rabbit hole...interesting stuff!! Hehe Viking, I checked the rabbit hole once a while and its surely full of interesting stuffs, most of them illusions. But hey! How interesting!

Hey Steven I could do a whole thread on this if you wish... Lol, I hope your kidding ;) we will always find a way to dis-credit anything that doesn't sit well in our comfort zone!! Or to justify our deepest assumptions...

Anyway we can get back on track with conciousness 'one of your favourite topics' if you wish I sure do! I like you Viking, you are surely interesting!

Namaste, Steven

[blue777]

Namaste, Steven

IMO...Sympathetic Resonance re; weightlessness as practiced by the Tibetans, using sound harmonics , trumpets drums and voice.I They could lift massive weights which became light as a feather for building . The same principle could be defined by using Sympathetic Resonance with the collective consciousness.Thought(silent sense, energy)positive thought , positive sound could negate negatve sound Matter i.e comet or Star..or a comet fly-by near to earth..planet X .tHIS IS NOT MIND OVER MATTER , BUT POSITIVE ENERGY VERSES NEGATIVE ENERGY DONE THROUGH CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH IS A POSITIVE ENERGY, THE CREATOR..this will neutralize the heavenly body if it breaks the Roche limit(roche means breaking the distance which a heavenly body can come near to earth a, ,which will create Earthquakes, Tsunamis Huricanes etc......The positive collective consciousness , positive energy is a higher level order in the construction of the Universe linked to the Fibonacci series.This means that the future timeline is in our own hands
lol
blue/dominic
P.s there will be no syncopation involved , it will be done in Harmonious way.These are my thoughts straight from the soul, in a veritable minefield of data and disinformation ,i had to go through...THE KEYS ARE ALWAYS POSITIVE which will guarantee to enlighten.
love of light
blue/dominic

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hehe Viking, I checked the rabbit hole once a while and its surely full of interesting stuffs, most of them illusions. But hey! How interesting!

Well not sure what you mean here ... I suppose Its how we percieve 'illusion' ... all I saw was lots of hard work based on facts...


Lol, I hope your kidding

No...lol


I sure do! I like you Viking, you are surely interesting!

I'm glad I have your interest Steven...

Any way getting back on track...

Yes Blue, sounds pretty good...We all have to make this contribution...

"Sympathetic Resonance re; weightlessness as practiced by the Tibetans, using sound harmonics , trumpets drums and voice"

You'll have to explain how this works and how to achieve...

viking

[blue777]

Well not sure what you mean here ... I suppose Its how we percieve 'illusion' ... all I saw was lots of hard work based on facts...



No...lol



I'm glad I have your interest Steven...

Any way getting back on track...

Yes Blue, sounds pretty good...We all have to make this contribution...

"Sympathetic Resonance re; weightlessness as practiced by the Tibetans, using sound harmonics , trumpets drums and voice"

You'll have to explain how this works and how to achieve...

viking

thanks Viking....
In the middle of the meadow, about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the centre. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimetres. A block of stone was manoeuvred into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab.

The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and 6 trumpets.(Ragdons) Eight drums had a cross-section of one metre, and a length of one and one half metres. Four drums were medium size with a cross-section of 0.7 metre and a length of one metre. The only small drum had a cross-section of 0.2 metres and a length of 0.3 metres. All the trumpets were the same size.

They had a length of 3.12 metres and an opening of 0.3 metres. The big drums and all the trumpets were fixed on mounts which could be adjusted with staffs in the direction of the slab of stone. The big drums were made of 1mm thick sheet iron, and had a weight of 150kg. They were built in five sections. All the drums were open at one end, while the other end had a bottom of metal, on which the monks beat with big leather clubs. Behind each instrument was a row of monks.

When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.
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this was witnessed by scientists...........this is what sympathetic resonance is, and the collective consciousness, silent thought.. positive energy can do the same thing
regards blue

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Blue...thats pretty awesome ... guess I get to play the Piano Accordian!! ha ha

Great stuff...

viking