MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks

[A Simple Human]

MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) Written by David Wilcock Friday, April 13, 2012 (Divine Cosmos)

The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed -- to prevent the world's wealth from continuing to be stolen... (continue reading on Divine Cosmos)

[crosby]

A.S.H. this is awesome. i am left wondering how long this will take to actually play out!
regards, corson

[A Simple Human]

@ corson and Calz_Avaretard,

Damn, you guys were all over this as soon as I posted it (lol)! :cool:


A.S.H. this is awesome. i am left wondering how long this will take to actually play out!
regards, corson

@ corson,

Yes, this seems to be the core question for those of us who are awakened; however, keep in mind that the planet supports almost 7,007,000,000 people (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html), and many are not awake yet. So, even if the Cabal capitulates, we may still face challenges from the unwitting public at large. Actions do seem to be progressing though, no matter how slow they seem to us. :clap2:

My suggestion to everyone would be to actively engage in educating your family, friends, neighbors, coworkers etc... regarding the unfolding events.

As always, prepare for the worst but hope for the best,

A.S.H.

[jp11]

MAJOR EVENT: Liens Filed Against All 12 Federal Reserve Banks (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) Written by David Wilcock Friday, April 13, 2012 (Divine Cosmos)

The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed -- to prevent the world's wealth from continuing to be stolen... (continue reading on Divine Cosmos)

A.S.H. I just finished reading this and checked to see if anyone had posted the info here...
Pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

[ThePythonicCow]

Well, one line of what David Wilcock wrote in this blog entry sounds right to me:
The reason why the public is being notified is only this: to reduce the likelihood of mass panic, rioting and chaos in the initial confusion and fear that will invariably result.
Whether or not such a major event, if it occurred, would be good for humanity or not, that I'm more skeptical of.

But this thread is not the place to elaborate on my skepticism ... especially since I don't have any good insights or evidence to support it anyway :).

===

P.S. -- David Wilcock anticipated my concerns quite well:
Some are inclined to distrust, and believe that any operation of this scope and magnitude must, by design, be an evil attempt to instill martial law.

:) :cow: :)

[lelmaleh]

Just read the article, continue to hope for the best.

[A Simple Human]

A.S.H. I just finished reading this and checked to see if anyone had posted the info here...

@ jp11,

Yes, it appears that I have finally beaten jackovesk (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?580-jackovesk) for once! :first: The guy's amazing at posting new info expeditiously!


Pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

I agree, it's an intriguing article. Let's be observant, and monitor the proceedings to see if they come to fruition. Always be on guard.

You're welcome,

A.S.H.

[Ontarioguy]

Was getting sleepy, but this definitely gave me my second wind! Interesting indeed! Thanks Simple Human! :cool:

[jcocks]

It's so complicated and precise that, even if it is not the real deal, the existance of such a document points to something bigger behind the scenes.

My gut is telling me, however, that somehow we have nothing to fear from the PTW anymore, they're being taken care of. I have nothing but a positive vision of the future anymore.

There's still a lot happening behind the scenes, but everything is progressing as it should.

[ThePythonicCow]

It's so complicated and precise that, even if it is not the real deal, the existance of such a document points to something bigger behind the scenes.

Well .. not always :).

As a once prolific computer programmer, I've got a few elaborate, complicated and precise programs to my credit (along with the good stuff), which turned out to be worthless irrelevant delusions.

I suppose this happens to lawyers now and then too.

As to whether this is destined to turn out good for humanity or not ... that currently seems to be more of a litmus test as to our individual outlooks than it is well determined yet.

[jcocks]

My point was that it looks to me as if whoever was responsible for that document had to have some good knowledge of the legal system and some pretty in-depth knowledge of the reserve banking system to be able to write the document. Ie : If it is a fake, it's a damn good one and it will take someone with at least as good a knowledge to debunk it.

If a fake, it's existance alone hints at something else happening behind the scenes that may be at least as important, if not more so, than what we see before us now.

[gripreaper]

OK, since it's 1 in the morning here on the west coast of the US, I won't fully comment on this till tomorrow, but I wanted to set a context for my response.

In the last two years, due to the foreclosure debacle and so many of my closest family and friends losing their homes, I have hundreds of hours of studies on commercial law, commerce, FRCP Federal Rules off Civil Procedure, Liens, Affidavits, Tort Claims, USC United States Code, UCC Uniform Commercial Code, Jurisdiction, both venue and subject matter, Courts of equity, Common Law, Civil, criminal, statutory court rules, and the like. I have also been following very closely the development of the shadow economy, shadow financial system, and the shadow (black ops) projects, and governments, and am familiar with both leading timelines running concurrent at this time. I'm also a student of spirituality, and the esoteric teachings from as far back as Atlantis.

Suffice it to say for now, tyranny has been afoot for hundreds of thousands of years as well as the drive for freedom and self determination, and it is incumbent upon all of us to accept and take responsibility for the paradigm shift which is occurring and become self responsible and self determined. It is incumbent upon us to collectively "dream the dream" of how we want this new paradigm to look, and not leave it up to benevolent ET's, or any ancient royal families who claim inheritance to the earth or her freely given resources.

Sleep well. See you tomorrow.

[Avocadess]

Wow. So great to see this! For those of us who have been awake to the deep levels of corruption in our world for decades it is understandable that we are slow to believe. Yet, I am believing!!!

[xeon]

Wow. So great to see this! For those of us who have been awake to the deep levels of corruption in our world for decades it is understandable that we are slow to believe. Yet, I am believing!!!

I'm still on the fence, but I will never stop trying to educate people about the true nature of reality, wherever I go. Even if most will not seem to listen or care. Secretly, I do hope it is true. Otherwise, the entire world is truly screwed and there is no hope at all.

[MargueriteBee]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

[KiwiElf]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

That's an excellent question MB. As a previous "educator" I would say - right here and now, honestly??? - a large proportion are not. But, with a redirected education - and perhaps crash course - yes. It will take time... :)

[jackovesk]

'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

[A Simple Human]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

@ MargueriteBee,

No! The planet, as in "world", may know how to be free and think for itself; however, the majority of humanity on the planet has been programmed to not think for themselves for at least decades, if not millennia. If everyone knew how to be free and think for themselves, would we (humanity) collectively be in our current situation? I doubt it.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

Don't worry guys we can help educate them and once this goes down and if it does then our credibility will sky rocket and they might actually want to listen to what we have to say. I'm still cautious about it and preparing for the worst but there have been a lot of stories that seem to corroborate drake's testimony. Continue to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. As long as we continue to do that nobody can accuse us of being gullible.

[EnergyGardener]

'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

Jack, Shoot the messenger delivering good news? What's wrong, not enough fear here?:confused:

The first legal step to oust these "Big Bad Wolves" doesn't mean in any way that "we (they) have it all under control," but it does indicate that we are receiving help from ET/ED and as important, awakened terrans, so we can contemplate the tremendous amount of work ahead for us. I write "work," but there is nothing I would rather do; I have been impatiently awaiting this point in Earth's history, but realize the job may become more difficult if brilliant people like you (and I mean that sincerely) criticize great news when it is realized as "harmful" because it will compel people to "sit back and let others save us."

Jack, let's work together (we all know you will do that) to insure the outcome meets it best potential. Let me know if you would like to join the "Afters" program.

[christian]

Kauilapele posted a "short summary" of this on his blog (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/highlights-from-the-david-wilcock-article-major-event-liens-filed-against-all-12-federal-reserve-banks/):




Let me make it perfectly clear, these are highlights from my point of view. You may have other highlights. But I have just finished reading this article (http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) and, for me, it was planet-vibrating. Maybe it will be the same for you, maybe not.

[Kp Note 1: David mentions that his close friend had dropped off 2 DVDs of data related to this article, and that four days later, he passed away. We can assist by sending Light to all involved here, particularly David, who got this article out there to us, even in the midst of those circumstances.]

[Kp Note 2: I did find it VERY interesting that the same day David Cameron visited Jakarta, Indonesia, the 8.7 magnitude earthquake occurred in Indonesia. Hmmm...]

[Kp Note 3: The $ amount of the gold in the lien, at today's price (http://www.kitco.com/market/), $1660/oz., would be (4,638,791,996 kg) x (2.2 lb/kg) x (16 oz/lb) x ($1660/oz) = $271,053,893,910,272; that's $271 trillion]


The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed — to prevent the world’s wealth from continuing to be stolen.
Let’s be clear, again, that this is NOT a coup, NOT martial law, and NOT a takeover of the government in any way.
The plan for mass arrests appears to have been in development since the 1960s… [and] requires the will of the people to succeed. Otherwise, our supporters within the military and the justice system do not have the legal precedent to perform such actions.
US marshals from the Department of Justice and peace officers will carry out the arrests, with the assistance of military personnel — in the event of any unforeseen disturbances.
…the mass arrests will generate a situation from which there is no turning back for the Cabal.
Full disclosure of this group guarantees that no such actions will ever be tolerated again by the public. It is a full-stop Game Over for the cabal.
This cannot and will not be a “cleaning out of middle management” only. The upper levels will be clearly exposed.
Particularly since 9/11, an incredible amount of damning evidence has been quietly collected — all for use in this single moment of Truth… it will be shocking. Very shocking. It will also be undeniable.
There will NOT be a mass power outage unless the negative groups try to do this. The lights will stay on and everyone should be OK during this process.
There may be local disruptions of Internet service and international phone calls for the initial three-day period. This is by necessity…
…the 2008 crash… Had this massive hemorrhage not been quickly stopped in 2008, the economy could have been destroyed beyond any hope of repair.
Scores of DVDs’ worth of documentaries — some narrated by instantly-recognizable public figures — will be airing, revealing the truth, with as much sensitivity as possible — while also not pulling any punches.
Once this information is released, there will be a mass grieving process that must occur, akin to the sudden death of a friend or loved one.
This event will have a similarly “defining” effect in creating a sudden grief process — worldwide — though very little, if any deaths should occur… Many great illusions — in which we, like children, wanted our “parents” to love, protect and support us — will come crashing down.
I have had hundreds of dreams, for many years now, preparing me to see a massive, unprecedented exposure and arrest of this Cabal on a worldwide level… The overall “data cluster” indicates this will indeed be of tremendous, unprecedented, positive benefit to humanity.
…everyone [has had] to knowingly live in a lie… that we live in a “basically good” world that is not being secretly run by psychopaths.
Fear is the only reason why this hasn’t already become a mass, public understanding. However, that “fear of Truth” is already just about broken.
The economic, political and social concerns we struggle with today are the result of a plan that was systematically put into practice as of 1776, with the founding of the Order of the Illuminati in Bavaria.
In order to stop this game and bring about true peace, any plan for mass arrests must involve a full exposure of the gold that was confiscated worldwide — by the bankers themselves.
Adam Smith’s treatise was used — in the tragic aftermath of the completely manufactured, pre-planned World War I — to convince world leaders to hand over their gold.
Two different economies were set up: the public economy, where we currently have about 62 trillion dollars in world GDP, and what I call the occult economy.
In order to use any of this money, however, it must be withdrawn from accounts held in the occult economy — and converted into real money in the public economy. Therein lies the problem.
Only a very small number of key “traders” still hold any accounts in the occult economy.
Groups like the SEC have completely shut these accounts down.
The shutdown of these illicit accounts is another reason why so many CEOs have resigned since this happened. Where do you think most of their “big” money was being held?
I was told that any mention of this system, or the jargon that goes along with it, could have led to the dreaded “knock on the door” — but so far I have been fine.
Had I decided to get involved in this occult financial system, Federal Reserve-owned banks would have extended lines of credit to me — using the initial monies I raised as collateral.
I refused these offers. I would not tolerate anyone attempting to buy my allegiance and using money to control me.
If you have an occult bank balance of, say, 300 billion, and you wish to free up a few million for something, that money has to be created as a ledger entry by one of the major banks… Through this process, trillions of dollars of illicit, occult funds have been laundered into the public economy.
This is why the numbers do not add up — and the books do not balance — in the public economy.
This is ridiculous. It is a bubble. It was meant to be that way.
…the occult economy — and its fantastic bank balances — was, is and always will be the greatest Ponzi scheme on earth.
The plan for mass arrests…, does involve the restoration of the United States Constitution to its full lawful status… [and] requires that the confiscated gold, and the occult economy built off of it, be fully revealed to the world.
The insider name for the confiscated gold is the Global Collateral Accounts. 85 percent of this gold belonged to Asian countries.
The Federal Reserve stole this gold by vastly lying to its owners.
The Asians and all other countries were told that this would usher in a new era of peace and prosperity.
Once they [the cabal] secured control of the financial system, through the BIS, they used lethal force to stop anyone from speaking out.
Those who held the original gold… [Asian countries] needed to have something offered to them in exchange for what they handed over…
…they have been given a continuous supply of Federal Reserve bonds — issued by any one of twelve Federal Reserve banks in the US — as collateral.
Technically, these bonds serve as legal tender. They are United States Federal Reserve Notes, as good as cash.
This was the greatest bank-robbery in human history. It has still not been exposed on a mass public level.
The gold was not moved very far from where it was originally confiscated. Every bar of gold in every facility is rigorously cataloged, documented and “deposited” within the Global Collateral Accounts… The Federal Reserve’s charter for these accounts expired in 1999.
[NEIL KEENAN] We have most recently watched Rothschild and Dupont fly to Indonesia to try and illegally move the assets — to no avail… Now David Cameron, the Prime Minister of England, has his eyes set on the Gold. (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/british-pm-visits-indonesia-as-earthquake-hits-2012-04-11)
[KEENAN] It seems to me that the English are making a push to steal whatever they have not stolen during the past 300 years.
[KEENAN] We intend to establish a trust that will allow these funds to be utilized for the healing and transformation of this planet. The releasing of formerly-classified technologies is a very key element of this plan.
[KEENAN] As Mr. Rothschild and Mr. Dupont did, Cameron also left empty-handed… Furthering this note, a powerful Singaporean/Malaysian businessman made his attempt at stealing the accounts within the past week.
[BEN FULFORD] There is a genuine Dragon family that is based on Asian royal bloodlines. They have been setting up a benevolent new financial system.
[FULFORD] [But] the Feds, Bernanke, Geithner and their Bush, Rockefeller, Rothschild bosses last week approached Japan Ministry of Finance boss Eijiro Katsu and BOJ Governor Masaaki Shirakawa, and pretended they were the Dragon family.
…the first public posting of the new Cease and Desist Order on behalf of Neil Keenan, signatory for the “real” Dragon Family and its assets.
As of this posting, liens have now been placed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. We already know they do not have the assets to meet these obligations.
[from Cease and Desist Order] “It has been brought to our attention by Swiss Authorities that Chairman Kaspar Villager of UBS has made attempts to circumvent the lawfully appointed managers and Settlors of the Soekarno Trust — namely Neil F. Keenan and Keith F. Scott…
WHEREBY; we, the undersigned, are ordering Alex Ling Lee Soon, Jack Singh, Mr. Chee, Kaspar Villager, and the United Bank of Switzerland to stand down — and to CEASE AND DESIST on this, the 11th day of April, 2012, or face litigation.
Be aware that on the week of the 13th of April, you will be exposed internationally for your wrongdoings.
SIGNED by the Settlors of the Soekarno Trust – otherwise publicly known as the International Collateral Combined Accounts… Neil F. Keenan, April 11, 2012, Keith F. Scott, April 11, 2012
[DW] FILING LIENS AGAINST THE TWELVE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS… the grand finale…
Neil [Keenan] and I [DW] had an extensive conference call with Drake and his associates… as of this past weekend… Drake was told that a certain sequence of events needed to occur before the mass arrests could happen. The filing of this lien is one of those events.
[from Affidavit of Obligation to the 12 Federal Reserve Banks] “The ledger for this True Bill is based on the rate of 4% per annum of the principal amount of leased gold, which was 2,420,937,400 kilograms of pure gold. The total amount since 1961 to present is as follows:
2,420,937,400 [x] .04 [=] 96,837,496 per annum
96,837,496 [x] .51 years [=] 4,638,791,996 kilograms of pure gold
Demand is now made for Lien Debtors, jointly and severally, to deliver over to Lien Claimants 4,638,791,996 kilograms of pure gold.”
We will not stand down. We will not be intimidated… I am only giving a voice to the real heroes — the brave men and women who will conduct these mass arrests, and free our planet from Financial Tyranny.
I do believe I will be fine. No one has hurt me directly. I want to make it absolutely clear that if anyone else I care about is harmed, there will be direct repercussions. You are ordered to Cease and Desist. Now.

[blufire]

Perhaps we should think a little deeper or project this out into the future?

When all these “arrests” happen and the 12 Federal Reserve Banks are taken out what then?

World wide, the monetary systems are being foundationally shaken, country after country . . . . . .

Many here on the forum and other alternative belief and media sites see this as a positive thing and that somehow, even though “we” or the 99%, or whatever, have not done ONE single thing to bring on this shake down . . . . my gut tells me different.

The only way or at least the most affective way to bring in a powerful One World Government along with a One World Monetary System is to take out each country’s private or small banking systems. Take down the Federal Reserve and there is no longer a FDIC which means the loss of your personal money is not longer insured, which means “they” can eliminate everybody’s financial and monetary resources.

THEN, the mass majority of the world population will readily accept and even embrace a One World Government . . . .who do you reckon will be the ruling body behind this now very small powerful faction??? I’ll give you a hint . . .won’t be us.

All these “arrests” and take downs don’t even begin to come close to the individuals who are in control . . . . .in fact “they” are the ones initiating these actions.

We say we are awake? I say we are still asleep and in the midst of an ongoing, never ending nightmare.

[Mozart]

I'm pasting in a comment that I made in the Ben Fulford forum, to wit:

I’m still waiting for Wilcock’s Divine intervention part 2 & 3. About the time encoded prophecies, that’s where all the good stuff is hidden.

@Mozart, any idea when to expect this?

Graduation day is coming very soon!

Comment by solarain on April 15, 2012 @ 12:58 am
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Solarain ~

No, I have no idea about when to expect parts 2 and 3 to happen — the writing/editing of the “MAJOR EVENT” blog entry was totally unplanned, so he had to stop the work on the “DIVINE INTERVENTION” one in order to do the “MAJOR EVENT” one.

David usually juggles several on-going projects at once, hence sometimes the posting of certain articles get delayed, especially when there are major game-changing events that David must comment on when they happen.

David indicated to me this morning in an email that there will soon be a radio show in which our transcript team would be able to transcribe.

I had asked him if we could transcribe the conference call that he mentioned in the “MAJOR EVENT” article, but he said that there was too much classified information in that phone call, so it could not be put into an mp3, even if it was only for the transcript team — and we have done transcriptions with limited-release mp3s that had very sensitive information before.

So what all of you MUST understand is that the players who are involved in these processes on the first-person levels must be VERY careful as to what they can say in public, as opposed to what information that they can safely release — in terms of their own personal safety, as well as to protect The Plan that is guiding their efforts to defeat the damn cabal.

So please, all of you, try not to get frustrated with any apparent “lack” of detailed information and just be patient with this process and trust that it’s definitely moving forward and that the mass arrests of the eff’n cabal WILL HAPPEN.

No IFs, ANDs or BUTs — **IT WILL HAPPEN**.

~Mozart

[jackovesk]

'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

Jack, Shoot the messenger delivering good news? What's wrong, not enough fear here?:confused:

The first legal step to oust these "Big Bad Wolves" doesn't mean in any way that "we (they) have it all under control," but it does indicate that we are receiving help from ET/ED and as important, awakened terrans, so we can contemplate the tremendous amount of work ahead for us. I write "work," but there is nothing I would rather do; I have been impatiently awaiting this point in Earth's history, but realize the job may become more difficult if brilliant people like you (and I mean that sincerely) criticize great news when it is realized as "harmful" because it will compel people to "sit back and let others save us."

Jack, let's work together (we all know you will do that) to insure the outcome meets it best potential. Let me know if you would like to join the "Afters" program.

'God Knows' I want this 'STORY' to be 'True'...:yes4:

But there really should be at least some sort of 'Balance & Discernment' in this reporting...:yes4:

Ask yourself this...

Why would 'David Wilcock' say this...


Drake was asked by the "good guys" in the Pentagon to provide a public voice for a plan that, up until then, had almost entirely been disclosed by Benjamin Fulford, since 2007, and myself since November 2011 -- when I was personally briefed on it.

Under the 'Heading' - "THE PLAN REQUIRES THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE" (2nd Paragraph)

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens


Why would Drake &/or the Pentagon..? Ask David Wilcock of all people, who I might add is not a 'Journalist' in any way shape or form to be the 'Internet's Representitive' spokesman for such an important 'Event'...?

Then for Drake himself to "CONTRADICT" David Wilcock the other night on Blog Talk Radio @ approx. 1.34.50 mins and Discredit Ben Fulford in such a way..?

:director:...http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/3/005/show_3005869.mp3


Drake Ouote: "I'm not going to confirm anything that Ben Fulford says, because he is not in the (Inner-Loop) at this point..!"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43668-Drake-Q-A-2-hours...Must-Listen--&p=466205#post466205


Now would you please http://dpi.state.wi.us/images/tepdl/stop.gif being so 'Naive' and start using your own 'Discernment'..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you people, never cease to amaze me...:faint:

Rgs,

Jack

[RunningDeer]

Hello jackovesk,

The last several weeks, I’ve had to work beyond my judgement, and hear your messages while separating out the tones of sarcasm, condescension and finger pointing in your posts.

You remind me of my ex-hubby; don’t worry it’s a compliment. He’s still a great friend with lots of passion for his causes. There was a period of time, where his communication style eclipsed his message. Blinded by his urgency for change, he forgot that we all process information differently.

I’m still in your corner. I still say you’ve got panache. I still will read your posts. My hope is that the new members to the “Land of Avalon” will separate the treasure from the dross.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

[jackovesk]

Hello jackovesk,

The last several weeks, I’ve had to work beyond my judgement, and hear your messages while separating out the tones of sarcasm, condescension and finger pointing in your posts.

You remind me of my ex-hubby; don’t worry it’s a compliment. He’s still a great friend with lots of passion for his causes. There was a period of time, where his communication style eclipsed his message. Blinded by his urgency for change, he forgot that we all process information differently.

I’m still in your corner. I still say you’ve got panache. I still will read your posts. My hope is that the new members to the “Land of Avalon” will separate the treasure from the dross.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

See the 'above' post, I'm going to sleep..!

Rgs,

Jack

[YvonneG]

I am busy today preparing and sharing with a friend. However, there has been much worked on the international monetary system. I would just love to see folks do the research and listen to DRake on freedomreigns.us and much of what people rant about and put out the negativity about would be answered. Yep, that is everyone's right as it is my right to rant about it all.

Everything has been spelled on the freedomreigns.us show with Drake and others...

[Hermeticus]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

If only we could tell people how to think for themselves! ;)

Thinking for oneself is a behavior of consciousness and self-awareness. It's a matter of perspective. If you and I could see ourselves from a higher perspective, the higher perspective would identify many ways in which we are at present not thinking for ourselves and not free. But we're not ready or willing to move into that sense of awareness.

But some people are on the border and can be gently or abruptly introduced to reject the lies they tacitly accept which seem so obviously false to the few. Others on some level know they are subject to lies, but are unwilling to subject their minds to the ramifications of them. I believe there are many people who could break free from the lies of the new media if the news media stopped spewing them out. They would still not be thinking for themselves, but they would at least no longer be abused with cunning falsehoods.

Illusion is a perennial component of this world.

[araucaria]

'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

I couldn't disagree more. When this plays out, you and I and a lot of other people will have their work cut out steadying the boat. There is no one in particular saving the world while you get to look on :)

[modwiz]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

No, but they will have to be fast learners. In case I sound harsh, I would point out the almost universal trait of blaming something or someone for the problems or ills that are most often the result of poor choices or not exercising the option for a choice. Also, similar blaming when one simply did not attend to business. Not being a victim is the behavior associated with being free and thinking for one self. The plethora of victims that surround us in our many relationships is the reason I answered MB's query in the negatory voice.

I am very unsure of negatory as an actual word. I chose to use it and archons did not make me do it. I believe in them, but they don't get too much access to me. That would be victim behavior.

[gripreaper]

Administratve or Judicial:

The administrative procedures act was put in place to address grievances in commerce prior to any judicial process. Everything is commercial between creditors and debtors and the execution or breach of contracts. Contract law is very specific in its requirements, which are 4 in number, the meeting of the minds, full disclosure, an exchange of consideration by both parties and BOTH wet ink signatures on the contract. If there is a breach, then the aggrieved party must submit an administrative QWR (Qualified Written Request) outlining the breach, requesting ”proof of claim” as well as other relevant disclosures of the breach. All collection activities are supposed to “cease” until the controversy has been resolved. If the Administrative procedure fails to resolve the controversy, then the aggrieved party can move on to the judicial process. The judicial process has its own set of rules irrespective of the administrative, and they are not one in the same.

Sovereign or Slave:

Sovereignty has been suspended since the 1600’s with the formation of the Ecclesiastical trusts and the hypothication and surety granted to the Vatican via the Cestui Que Vie Trusts. Although there have been many attempts over the centuries to extricate from this ownership, all the nation states are actually “agents” of this original trust and are subject to it. The articles of Confederation here in the United States was originally drafted to extricate from these Trusts and was drafted and given to our founding fathers from the indigenous Indians, yet by the time the Constitution was drafted, it was already changed and subjected to the original agency of Britain and the Vatican.

Legal or Lawful:

Ownership is held in trust and those who hold lawful title are said to be the owners, yet these owners are not flesh and blood individuals but are corporate entities operating for the benefit of the “beneficiaries” of the trust, and are administered by the trustee. You can legally “posses” a certain asset as long as you follow the guidelines and the mandates of the trust which holds lawful title. For example, when you pay off your mortgage you get a “certificate” of ownership but you DO NOT get a fee simple lawful title. You can "legally" possess it , but WE do not own anything. Ownership by individual flesh and blood humans is a fallacy and does not exist.

Debtor or Creditor:

The context through which we must view commerce, and EVERYTHING is commerce, is who the creditor is and who the debtor is. All courts are basically debt collectors and all adjudication is designed to address grievances between debtors and creditors. Currently, the global system, which has been in place since AT LEAST 2000 years ago in Rome, places the ancient elite bloodline as the creditor and ALL OF the rest of us are debtors. We have acquiesced to this by agreement, through adhesion contracts such as registering our birth certificates and giving ourselves to the corporate trust as surety to operate in commerce. We have our social security which gives us certain benefits and privileges to being an indentured slave to the master trust owners of planet earth, as well as other adhesion contracts too numerous to mention. All Admiralty, Common Law, Equity, Statutes and Regulations are all derivatives of the original “weights and measures” LAWS which have been developed and put in place over the last 5000 years.

Context and Paradigm:

The context, from which the current adjudication is being proposed, is through the “rule of law” and the law of contracts, as well as the administrative and judicial procedures for adjudicating such grievances. If this is how the new paradigm is to be ushered in, then certain protocol must be followed. Notices are administrative and are not part of the judicial process. Liens must be filed with certain processes and procedures followed, and must be prefaced by a “notice of intent” which must also be filed within certain protocols and timelines. Affidavits also require very specific guidelines and are part of the judicial process, and must be notarized to make them official judicial documents which can be submitted as evidence in a judicial proceeding. Interrogatories, such as request for admissions, are judicial and can only be submitted after a case has been filed and the jurisdictional venue and subject matter has been agreed upon, by both parties.

To view a new paradigm by attempting to adjudicate through the rule of law and doing a “reset” back to such a time when mankind was sovereign and free on the land does not exist. To say that the organic constitution of the united states, or any other nation state, holds sovereign immunity is also fallacious, as we are subject to the war powers act, the military districts set up under the trading with the enemy act, and we are operating under a state of emergency by executive order from the corporation which is bankrupt and in receivership to the Vatican and it’s agents.

Conclusions:

From the article:


The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed — to prevent the world’s wealth from continuing to be stolen.

The documents presented as evidence in this latest article are all wrong. Yes, you can notice your assumed creditors administratively to “cease and desist” but that does not mean that they will. You cannot file a lien against the opposing party until you have a judgment from a court of proper jurisdiction. Your affidavits must follow guidelines and must be sworn and notarized and submitted into a judicial process. The affidavit submitted by this article is terrible and does not follow proper protocol. The interrogatories allegedly submitted are totally wrong and are not judicial.

It would have made more sense to give us the court case numbers and let us do our own due diligence as to the judicial process which is ongoing at the world court, or the court of international jurisdiction. As far as I know, there is no judicial process submitted aside from the Keenan case in New York, which IS NOT the jurisdiction for international grievances. To say that the ‘Hague IS the proper venue” is also suspect, for do not the cabal also control The Hague? The rule of law has been set up over millennium to serve as a protocol for all resources to flow to the top of the power pyramid and to assure that anyone who chooses to circumvent this process is mitigated and cast aside as NOT having access to the original Cesui Que Vie trust or the assets of the planet.

So, to mix commerce and the rule of law with sovereignty, and the original rights of the sovereign, with access to the resources of planet earth, is mixing two processes, the public side and the private side. That is like trying to mix oil and water together. It will not work. So, if Drake and his ilk are sending “Notices” and “Declarations” of sovereignty to The Hague, as a private process, and are submitting documents into a public venue for adjudication, how is this possible? If you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You CANNOT have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.

The contractual agreements made between the Federal Reserve, The IMF, and those who entrusted the resources of this planet to them, to supposedly be used for “humanitarian” endeavors, who now allegedly want those assets back because the global banksters “breached” their agreement, need to move into a judicial process, and remain cognizant of their own culpability in the agreement.

It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension. This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it.

To expose the shadow side and to bring all things into the light of day would require full disclosure as to the participation of ALL of the nations and leaders, and ALL nations would be culpable and party to it. To say that there is this evil cabal who is fostering an agenda of eugenics and NWO control, while there is a contingent of benevolent ancient dynastic monarchies in opposition which have been heart centered, enlightened, does not look at the biggest picture on the canvas.

Yes, I do believe that the resources of planet earth have been absconded for specific reasons, and that a new paradigm of sovereignty needs to emerge, but I do not think we can place two factions in opposition to each other, adjudicate justice, mete out sentences in a world court, and reset a paradigm of weights and measures based on the rule of law put in place over the last 5000 years, and index this "weights and measures" system to earth based commodities.

A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what? Meritocracy? An amoral code of ethics? Should we re-establish a new power pyramid with new benevolent enlightened beings at the top running things? Who decides who these most awakened and wisdom filled souls are? Do you see the problem here?

The system of weights and measures was put in place to mete out these resources in exchange for YOUR life force energy. This life force energy moves up through the power pyramid and is vampired and consumed by a nefarious small group of psychopathic aliens at the top. To try to apply empathic solutions to psychopathic’s makes no sense to me. To release free energy, the energy which is totally abundant in the matrix, or the source field, or the grand Sophia as it is called, eliminates the need for the “weights and measures” system of law and opens us up to the possibility of a new paradigm.

What I’m seeing so far from all of this “2012 reset” is contextualized within the existing paradigm and is following the rules of a paradigm of law which is dysfunctional and needs to be completely dismantled. What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?

Until the discourse moves more toward the spiritual aspect of communicating via claireaudience, and we can see clairevoyantly what truly is, and we become clairesentient, and we let go of the paradigm of “technology” which brought down Atlantis, and embrace the power within, we are heading down the same wrong road. We have this race memory in our DNA and we were ALL there to experience it. Let’s NOT repeat what we created back then on Atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.

Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.

[aranuk]

Hi Modwiz you look much younger these days.

Stan

[Earth Angel]

such a handsome wizard :wizard:


Hi Modwiz you look much younger these days.

Stan

[Kimberley]

Not only will it happen, IT IS HAPPENING!!!

Thank you all for your contribution!!

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[Mozart]

Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.

Wow, Gripreaper ~

This is one well-thought-out post.

I will like to respond to it with more proper response(s) to it, but my time that I have right now does not allow for that.

I also have received a response from someone who is deeply familiar with the ICJ process, so once I have the permission to post it, I'll post it in this thread.

[sirdipswitch]

The ONLY thing that will save this nation, is to abolish the 13th amendment, and remove the federal reseve bank, and the IRS, from our nation. period. Then remove the pres., VP, House, Senate, Suprem court, Every Governor, and start over by re-enstating our constitution, and NOT allowing attornies to hold public office. Close our boarders, bring all of our troops home, bring all of our business home and start manufacturing our own products again, teach truth in our schools, give the medical and pharmaceutical industries the ultimatum to end disease or be shut down, and we might just survive as a speciese. Plus there is far more that we could do, such as bring our true space program into the open, give all of our people free energy, free anti-grvity cars, energy efficient housing, stop GMO food production, end corporate farming and bring back family farming, and kick the UN out of our country, build the most powerfull Militatry the world has ever known, (of course we allready have that) then just sit here and dare them to mess with us, and any nation that wants to be our ally, can, just as soon as they sign the papers for Statehood. We can then open our arms and welcome any ET race that wants to come in peace and trade with us, to do so, and we will peacfully join the greater Gallactic community... and and and yes there is far more that we will do. I am awake!

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[Chester]

from jackovesk

Why would Drake &/or the Pentagon..? Ask David Wilcock of all people, who I might add is not a 'Journalist' in any way shape or form to be the 'Internet's Representitive' spokesman for such an important 'Event'...?

my response - Besides the courage David Wilcock has shown in providing apparently honest, clear, understandable and detailed information being good enough for most folks, name me a “journalist” who would do any better? In fact, hasn’t the presentations of David’s posts over the course of time improved such that he could be called a journalist to some extent? Come to think of it… why does any label established by past performance have to be a prerequisite to report information?

also from jackovesk - Drake Ouote: "I'm not going to confirm anything that Ben Fulford says, because he is not in the (Inner-Loop) at this point..!"

my response - Clearly the group Drake has direct contact with is not the entire world of white hatted individuals. Just because the group Drake has direct contact with is not in direct contact with Fulford does not mean Fulford perhaps via the White Dragon Society is not prepared to take necessary actions in their realms when the major events take place.

At least this is how I discern the conversations/interviews/posts you have taken quotes from.

justoneman

[ThePythonicCow]

What I’m seeing so far from all of this “2012 reset” is contextualized within the existing paradigm and is following the rules of a paradigm of law which is dysfunctional and needs to be completely dismantled. What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon.

That's what I'm seeing too - good post - thanks.

[percival tyro]

Hi ash do you mean the worlds paper wealth

[Avocadess]

Interesting that Drake said, "I am not going to confirm anything that Fulford says simply because he is not in the inner loop at this point."

One interesting thing I learned today from a group of people who recently attended a 3-day seminar in Austin, Texas with David Wilcock is that Wilcock believes that Obama is one of the ones who has been controlled by threat of torture to his family and then death to himself. It will be interesting to see how this plays out!

A new thread I started (by YvonneG's request because the software was not allowing her to start new threads) is for updates, clarifications and more regarding DRAKE who is speaking of the upcoming mass arrests: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793-Drake-Updates-clarifications-and-more

I highly recommend people who have not had the patience to listen to the 3-hour program between Wilcock and Drake from March 28 or 29 listen to Drake on the April 14th radio show listed on that thread. (Or you can search it on YouTube with keywords: Drake, Update, Freedom Reigns -- a show that was aired on Saturday, April 14, 2012.

[Chester]

Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.

This is one heck of a post - what steps could we take, collectively, to achieve these goals (besides massive transformations in each of us)?

One outcome would be a cashless society - how do we get there?

All I know is - what we got now (and the direction it is headed) can hardly be any worse... even if these moves by the "good guys" are justonesteps - at least they are steps in the right direction.

justoneman

[aranuk]

Administratve or Judicial:

The administrative procedures act was put in place to address grievances in commerce prior to any judicial process. Everything is commercial between creditors and debtors and the execution or breach of contracts. Contract law is very specific in its requirements, which are 4 in number, the meeting of the minds, full disclosure, an exchange of consideration by both parties and BOTH wet ink signatures on the contract. If there is a breach, then the aggrieved party must submit an administrative QWR (Qualified Written Request) outlining the breach, requesting ”proof of claim” as well as other relevant disclosures of the breach. All collection activities are supposed to “cease” until the controversy has been resolved. If the Administrative procedure fails to resolve the controversy, then the aggrieved party can move on to the judicial process. The judicial process has its own set of rules irrespective of the administrative, and they are not one in the same.

Sovereign or Slave:

Sovereignty has been suspended since the 1600’s with the formation of the Ecclesiastical trusts and the hypothication and surety granted to the Vatican via the Cestui Que Vie Trusts. Although there have been many attempts over the centuries to extricate from this ownership, all the nation states are actually “agents” of this original trust and are subject to it. The articles of Confederation here in the United States was originally drafted to extricate from these Trusts and was drafted and given to our founding fathers from the indigenous Indians, yet by the time the Constitution was drafted, it was already changed and subjected to the original agency of Britain and the Vatican.

Legal or Lawful:

Ownership is held in trust and those who hold lawful title are said to be the owners, yet these owners are not flesh and blood individuals but are corporate entities operating for the benefit of the “beneficiaries” of the trust, and are administered by the trustee. You can legally “posses” a certain asset as long as you follow the guidelines and the mandates of the trust which holds lawful title. For example, when you pay off your mortgage you get a “certificate” of ownership but you DO NOT get a fee simple lawful title. You can "legally" possess it , but WE do not own anything. Ownership by individual flesh and blood humans is a fallacy and does not exist.

Debtor or Creditor:

The context through which we must view commerce, and EVERYTHING is commerce, is who the creditor is and who the debtor is. All courts are basically debt collectors and all adjudication is designed to address grievances between debtors and creditors. Currently, the global system, which has been in place since AT LEAST 2000 years ago in Rome, places the ancient elite bloodline as the creditor and ALL OF the rest of us are debtors. We have acquiesced to this by agreement, through adhesion contracts such as registering our birth certificates and giving ourselves to the corporate trust as surety to operate in commerce. We have our social security which gives us certain benefits and privileges to being an indentured slave to the master trust owners of planet earth, as well as other adhesion contracts too numerous to mention. All Admiralty, Common Law, Equity, Statutes and Regulations are all derivatives of the original “weights and measures” LAWS which have been developed and put in place over the last 5000 years.

Context and Paradigm:

The context, from which the current adjudication is being proposed, is through the “rule of law” and the law of contracts, as well as the administrative and judicial procedures for adjudicating such grievances. If this is how the new paradigm is to be ushered in, then certain protocol must be followed. Notices are administrative and are not part of the judicial process. Liens must be filed with certain processes and procedures followed, and must be prefaced by a “notice of intent” which must also be filed within certain protocols and timelines. Affidavits also require very specific guidelines and are part of the judicial process, and must be notarized to make them official judicial documents which can be submitted as evidence in a judicial proceeding. Interrogatories, such as request for admissions, are judicial and can only be submitted after a case has been filed and the jurisdictional venue and subject matter has been agreed upon, by both parties.

To view a new paradigm by attempting to adjudicate through the rule of law and doing a “reset” back to such a time when mankind was sovereign and free on the land does not exist. To say that the organic constitution of the united states, or any other nation state, holds sovereign immunity is also fallacious, as we are subject to the war powers act, the military districts set up under the trading with the enemy act, and we are operating under a state of emergency by executive order from the corporation which is bankrupt and in receivership to the Vatican and it’s agents.

Conclusions:

From the article:


The next major milestone for Mass Arrests of the cabal has now arrived. Liens have now been filed against all twelve Federal Reserve banks. A Cease and Desist Order has also been filed — to prevent the world’s wealth from continuing to be stolen.

The documents presented as evidence in this latest article are all wrong. Yes, you can notice your assumed creditors administratively to “cease and desist” but that does not mean that they will. You cannot file a lien against the opposing party until you have a judgment from a court of proper jurisdiction. Your affidavits must follow guidelines and must be sworn and notarized and submitted into a judicial process. The affidavit submitted by this article is terrible and does not follow proper protocol. The interrogatories allegedly submitted are totally wrong and are not judicial.

It would have made more sense to give us the court case numbers and let us do our own due diligence as to the judicial process which is ongoing at the world court, or the court of international jurisdiction. As far as I know, there is no judicial process submitted aside from the Keenan case in New York, which IS NOT the jurisdiction for international grievances. To say that the ‘Hague IS the proper venue” is also suspect, for do not the cabal also control The Hague? The rule of law has been set up over millennium to serve as a protocol for all resources to flow to the top of the power pyramid and to assure that anyone who chooses to circumvent this process is mitigated and cast aside as NOT having access to the original Cesui Que Vie trust or the assets of the planet.

So, to mix commerce and the rule of law with sovereignty, and the original rights of the sovereign, with access to the resources of planet earth, is mixing two processes, the public side and the private side. That is like trying to mix oil and water together. It will not work. So, if Drake and his ilk are sending “Notices” and “Declarations” of sovereignty to The Hague, as a private process, and are submitting documents into a public venue for adjudication, how is this possible? If you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You CANNOT have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.

The contractual agreements made between the Federal Reserve, The IMF, and those who entrusted the resources of this planet to them, to supposedly be used for “humanitarian” endeavors, who now allegedly want those assets back because the global banksters “breached” their agreement, need to move into a judicial process, and remain cognizant of their own culpability in the agreement.

It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension. This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it.

To expose the shadow side and to bring all things into the light of day would require full disclosure as to the participation of ALL of the nations and leaders, and ALL nations would be culpable and party to it. To say that there is this evil cabal who is fostering an agenda of eugenics and NWO control, while there is a contingent of benevolent ancient dynastic monarchies in opposition which have been heart centered, enlightened, does not look at the biggest picture on the canvas.

Yes, I do believe that the resources of planet earth have been absconded for specific reasons, and that a new paradigm of sovereignty needs to emerge, but I do not think we can place two factions in opposition to each other, adjudicate justice, mete out sentences in a world court, and reset a paradigm of weights and measures based on the rule of law put in place over the last 5000 years, and index this "weights and measures" system to earth based commodities.

A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what? Meritocracy? An amoral code of ethics? Should we re-establish a new power pyramid with new benevolent enlightened beings at the top running things? Who decides who these most awakened and wisdom filled souls are? Do you see the problem here?

The system of weights and measures was put in place to mete out these resources in exchange for YOUR life force energy. This life force energy moves up through the power pyramid and is vampired and consumed by a nefarious small group of psychopathic aliens at the top. To try to apply empathic solutions to psychopathic’s makes no sense to me. To release free energy, the energy which is totally abundant in the matrix, or the source field, or the grand Sophia as it is called, eliminates the need for the “weights and measures” system of law and opens us up to the possibility of a new paradigm.

What I’m seeing so far from all of this “2012 reset” is contextualized within the existing paradigm and is following the rules of a paradigm of law which is dysfunctional and needs to be completely dismantled. What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?

Until the discourse moves more toward the spiritual aspect of communicating via claireaudience, and we can see clairevoyantly what truly is, and we become clairesentient, and we let go of the paradigm of “technology” which brought down Atlantis, and embrace the power within, we are heading down the same wrong road. We have this race memory in our DNA and we were ALL there to experience it. Let’s NOT repeat what we created back then on Atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.

Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.

Hi Gripreaper, in case anyone thinks that I deliberately posted a flippant post after the above post of yours which was a serious well thought out post I can assure you that I didn't. I had been reading posts on this thread for 15 minutes and then I decided to post. As it happens I posted mine 5 minutes after you posted yours. I didn't know you had posted. That being said, I have a few questions I would like to ask you.
Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless? If you are, then what are the options? Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this. I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it. Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal? Whether this clean up turns out pro the people or a cabal military takeover against the people, surely they would have got their legal advisors to advise with the actions they have started?
Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is pursuing will be thrown out of court?
I was so disappointed to read your post above.

Stan

[karelia]

My hunch is that this whole 'Project Bring the Cabal Down' is multi-layered. The entire legal issue is just one tiny layer and probably works to make some people aware of the situation. It isn't about authority, so it really doesn't matter whether something was filed with the IC of The Hague or the local newspaper, as long as it was. Whilst there is one heck of a lot of activity going on behind the scenes, most of which we are not being told about (not because the new 'they' work on a need-to-know basis but because they care for the lives of their cooperating colleagues), there is also the need to keep the momentum going with the likes of us who pay attention. Furthermore, yes, there is Divine Intervention. And then there is also support from that nation hardly anyone knows about, the Third/Unknown Power. And please, let's start to think OUTSIDE the box. Legal anything is utterly meaningless to us human beings. We are NOT fictional entities, nor are we engaged in commerce, so why not simply refrain from engaging in commercial contracts?

[aranuk]

Gripreaper said
"It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension. This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it."

Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.

Stan

[Hervé]

[...]

A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what? Meritocracy? An amoral code of ethics? Should we re-establish a new power pyramid with new benevolent enlightened beings at the top running things? Who decides who these most awakened and wisdom filled souls are? Do you see the problem here?

[...]

gripreaper, thank you for such a clear and concise sight of the yarn ball that got ran into by a few cats... :)

The astonishing thing is... there is a new paradigm on its way.

However, for it to be able to unfold, there had to be some external intervention which -- I guess -- David Wilcock calls "Divine intervention."

To get an inkling on that, one has to step out of the box called "Earth" to get a view on what's called "exopolitics."

That's the kind of interactions that got Alex Collier's friends to come visit and pin down exactly what it is that would cause the spreading of utter facist police "civilizations" into the planetary neighborhood from planet Earth.

I touch on that in Paul's thread: Debt Crisis Plotted to Deliver the Euro to the IMF? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43728-Debt-Crisis-Plotted-to-Deliver-the-Euro-to-the-IMF) .

Although the data are coming from a subject that has been highly ridiculed over the last 4-5 decades, they nonetheless provide a framework to navigate with, especially the "Free Zone Decree" which is apparently being observed by all parties involved except the psychos. However, those psychos are also subject to it.

A side note to that decree was dear Bob Dean being told "Sorry pal... you've got to go back down there..." omitting: "You're now a Free Zone Planetizen...."?:gaah:

[gripreaper]

Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless?

I’m saying that Noticing “The Hague” as to your status as a sovereign does not negate the Cestui Que Vie trusts established in 1666, which gave all of the earth and its inhabitants to the Vatican. Drake does not address this and I think it needs to be addressed. As far as I know, the only one who is addressing this is Santos Bonacci with his “Denique”.


If you are, then what are the options?

Like I said, I’m not suggesting that a move to sovereignty is not heading in the right direction, but I’m adding the caveats which include a COMPLETE severance from commerce and the existing paradigm. Many have tried this over the years and filed paperwork with their Secretary of State, their Nation’s Treasuries, the IRS, The City of London, etc. and have found out that it is not that easy to extricate oneself from the matrix. The very essence of the system is imbedded in our DNA and our consciousness and requires a complete change in thinking, which includes EVERYTHING we have ever been told or taught, as a lie.


Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this.

I was being generous as to how long it takes to get up to speed as to how the matrix works and how sovereignty works, but rest assured, there is WAY more to it than meets the eye and is being distributed as groundbreaking in most of the alternative media circles on the internet. You can bet your sweet a$$ that the pentagon top brass and many of the elite families at the top of the power pyramid, both nefarious and benevolent know about the original trusts and the idea of extricating from this as a sovereign.


I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it.

All lawyers are members and registered with the BAR association, The “British Accredited Registry” and are subject to the Crown, who is an agent of the Vatican. Any time you hire a lawyer, what you are claiming is that you are incompetent to speak for yourself as you are considered “dead” under maritime Admiralty, lost at sea, deceased and a corporate fiction. ONLY corporations can be heard in the crowns tribunal and have any authority to speak. Once you “cross the bar” you are in the jurisdiction of the crown.


Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal?

First of all, there has to be “charges” filed and a court order signed by a judge and a “warrant “ issued for ANYONE to be arrested (except now with the recent NDAA and other executive orders passed). The court must also have “jurisdiction” over that corporate entity which it is arresting. The owners of the planet are not subject to ANY jurisdiction.


Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is persuing will be thrown out of court?

Yes, I do think that the Keenan case will not make it very far, and was filed as a way to draw attention to the problem, which it has failed miserably to do so far. Only those in the alternative media, US, which is a very small number, are following along.


I was so disappointed to read your post above.

Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.

[Phoenix]

Are you saying that the notices that Drake speaks of that were posted to the Hague are meaningless?

I’m saying that Noticing “The Hague” as to your status as a sovereign does not negate the Cestui Que Vie trusts established in 1666, which gave all of the earth and its inhabitants to the Vatican. Drake does not address this and I think it needs to be addressed. As far as I know, the only one who is addressing this is Santos Bonacci with his “Denique”.


If you are, then what are the options?

Like I said, I’m not suggesting that a move to sovereignty is not heading in the right direction, but I’m adding the caveats which include a COMPLETE severance from commerce and the existing paradigm. Many have tried this over the years and filed paperwork with their Secretary of State, their Nation’s Treasuries, the IRS, The City of London, etc. and have found out that it is not that easy to extricate oneself from the matrix. The very essence of the system is imbedded in our DNA and our consciousness and requires a complete change in thinking, which includes EVERYTHING we have ever been told or taught, as a lie.


Also if you can learn these things in only a hundred hours why would the Pentagon white hats not know of this.

I was being generous as to how long it takes to get up to speed as to how the matrix works and how sovereignty works, but rest assured, there is WAY more to it than meets the eye and is being distributed as groundbreaking in most of the alternative media circles on the internet. You can bet your sweet a$$ that the pentagon top brass and many of the elite families at the top of the power pyramid, both nefarious and benevolent know about the original trusts and the idea of extricating from this as a sovereign.


I am sure they must have consulted good lawyers about it.

All lawyers are members and registered with the BAR association, The “British Accredited Registry” and are subject to the Crown, who is an agent of the Vatican. Any time you hire a lawyer, what you are claiming is that you are incompetent to speak for yourself as you are considered “dead” under maritime Admiralty, lost at sea, deceased and a corporate fiction. ONLY corporations can be heard in the crowns tribunal and have any authority to speak. Once you “cross the bar” you are in the jurisdiction of the crown.


Do you also think that if and when the arrests start they will be illegal?

First of all, there has to be “charges” filed and a court order signed by a judge and a “warrant “ issued for ANYONE to be arrested (except now with the recent NDAA and other executive orders passed). The court must also have “jurisdiction” over that corporate entity which it is arresting. The owners of the planet are not subject to ANY jurisdiction.


Do you think that the legal guy Keenan doesn't know the law either and that legal action he is persuing will be thrown out of court?

Yes, I do think that the Keenan case will not make it very far, and was filed as a way to draw attention to the problem, which it has failed miserably to do so far. Only those in the alternative media, US, which is a very small number, are following along.


I was so disappointed to read your post above.

Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.

gripreaper, you said a lot - but are you "sovereign?"

[Alie]

I was so disappointed to read your post above.

Don’t be disappointed. Knowledge is power, and power MUST come from within EACH individual. That is what sovereignty entails and that is in essence what Drake is trying to sell, albeit mixed with administrative and judicial processes, which DO NOT mix. You cannot create a new paradigm from the same level of consciousness which created the old paradigm and go back to some imagined time in the past where we were all sovereign and free under the rule of law and do a “reset”, as if there EVER was such the case to begin with. The rule of law is NOT sovereignty.

Self realization, Self Determination, and self responsibility do not fit into that old paradigm. Creating a future based on technology puts us back thousands of years, whereas we would not need any of the existing systems at all if we were conscious and tapped into the energy of the source field.

This is the context from which a new paradigm can emerge.

Every one's discussion is quite helpful. My comment is this ...
There seems to be an ASSUMPTION that is should be a natural thing to be self-empowered. I know I am striving for this, why else would I use this forum for information and discussion. However, we are in a life-changing event at this moment (at least if we believe this 25,000+ year end of cycle, end of federal reserve??, end of cabal, disclosure , etc. etc. etc.)

Some of us are seeking information and perspective and it's NOT EASY. I think we must appreciate that we are doing some very hard work here --- expanding ourselves as we've never done before.

[gripreaper]

The astonishing thing is... there is a new paradigm on its way.

However, for it to be able to unfold, there had to be some external intervention which -- I guess -- David Wilcock calls "Divine intervention."

To get an inkling on that, one has to step out of the box called "Earth" to get a view on what's called "exopolitics."

Do you really want to introduce exopolitics into this discussion? I know that is probably why the title to Wilcock's thesis is called "Divine Intervention" and I'm reasonably sure that there is a connection, but I'm NOT SO SURE that those who call themselves enlightened and connected into the higher dimensional realms are getting pure info and are not delving into other dualistic realms.

One would also need to back engineer earths history to the original influx of celestial beings, how many different star systems seeded the indigenous species, how and why did the hybridization occur, what are the alchemical properties of gold and why is it considered so valuable even to the galactic community, and where has all the gold mined in the last 200,000 years since the Annunaki mined it using us as a slave species gone.

This is a subject which is so vast and all encompassing, I do not recommend anyone who is using a 3D dimensional 5 senses paradigm from which to view exopolitics as a context, to engage the esoteric aspects of the galactic community and how it is structured, who's interests are being aligned with earth, and how we fit into that.

lets 'wake up" a bit more and shed our 3D skins a bit, shall we?

[YvonneG]

No one has all the answers. To be trapped in thinking that our views have to be the ONLY way is something we all fall into. And to believe that our perceptions of what is happening or not even if we could possibly have all of the facts and if we could possibly be 100% in our interpretation which we all filter through our own belief systems (this includes me), can deliver us JUST one answer or Just one way to see all of this.


As for the Lien. A friend of mine who is retired CPA and paralegal and has studied common law and on and on, explained this to me. This is what he says about liens and the potential of what could happen with this. He is not pretended to be sure. He is giving his best opinion. Here it is:

My Best Guess:

A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.

If the lien is foreclosed on then the Fed Reserve will be under new management, the Wall Street banks will collapse within two weeks, the cabal effectively will be cut off from all of their money - thus game over.

Don't forget that the Fed Reserve must remain open to process checks, interbank transfers and other routine banking. What will stop is the printing of money, fraud, money laundering etc. That is why I suggest the new management approach will occur.

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[gripreaper]

Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.

Stan, here is a fairly good synopsis, which covers one corner of the big canvas.

http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-13.htm

[Hervé]

[...]

... but I'm NOT SI SURE that those who call themselves enlightened and connected into the higher dimensional realms are getting pure info or and delving into other dualistic realms.

[...]

This is a subject which is so vast and all encompassing, I do not recommend anyone who is using a 3D dimensional 5 senses paradigm from which to view exopolitics as a context, to engage the esoteric aspects of the galactic community and how it is structured, who's interests are being aligned with earth, and how we fit into that.

lets 'wake up" a bit more and shed our 3D skins a bit, shall we?

Agreed on the caveat and on the current limitations.

[Neptun]

It says there will be allot of grief and crying when this plays out.

I will pop champagne!

By the way, my mentor was one of the leading guys mentioned in the lawsuit regarding the trillion dollar scam.

I was told that any mention of this system, or the jargon that goes along with it, could have led to the dreaded "knock on the door" -- but so far I have been fine.
The jargon he did not mention are PPP(Private Placement Program), "trading programs", trading or simply a "program".

It takes $100M + to enter a trading program, the right contacts and to be accepted.

It can also be done with a smaller amount with the right contacts.

The profit is 100% several times in a short period of time with no risk, because the money will be in the "investor's" bank account, when the trading goes on.

I think, it takes the fun out of the money game, when people can access the monopoly bank's money with the right contacts and buy up everything.

It is not so secret any more. I see more and more people speak about these trading programs everywhere.

By the way, I'm not a HNWI or UHNWI yet.

I have the knowledge, skills and connections, what is worth more than money. But it seems the marketplace has completely frozen worldwide.

I'm a humanitarian capitalist and work for humanity inside the system.

[crosby]

does anyone know if Alfred Webre has anything to add to this situation. i believe that if anyone would know how to and where to go it would be him. gripreaper, do you have an inside line to Dr. Webre? i remember that he is responsible for the beginning of the exopolitical movement. I like what you have said, because now i understand what is happening more clearly; but as aranuk said, i am disappointed too. how can we get around all of this?
warmest regards, corson

[gripreaper]

A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.

What you are describing is an administrative "Notice" and is not a lien. You can notice someone and state a claim, and what you are intending to do if they don't respond, but this is not a lien. The status of the parties has not even been established. Here is a UCC 1 filed on behalf of NAWAPA against the Federal Reserve for 14 TRILLION dollars which names who the creditors are and who the debtors are.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9620/irslienonamerica.pdf

Where's the Financing Statements? Where's the Judicial Case filings? Where's the Liens?

[Chester]

Hi Gripreaper, where did you get this information? I would like to read it myself.

Stan, here is a fairly good synopsis, which covers one corner of the big canvas.

http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-13.htm

This article helped me connect several dots - Thanks Gripreaper

[Chester]

Gripreaper seems to suggest that a transcendence of a requirement for "money" should be our goal... I have to agree - but we appear so far away from having the required fundamental, shall I say, spiritual foundation needed to make that leap and instead seem so close to planetary catastrophe... wow - what a dilemma. If only we could go back to Feb 1954... the meeting with Eisenhower and decide instead to give up the H-bomb development for a crash course in spiritual and ethical development... at least now the state of our world and how it got this way finally makes some sense - at least in being able to understand how we got here. I wish I had answers for my children's sake.

[DreamsInDigital]

AFAIK , those offers from the Benevolent Groups of ET/EDs are STILL open and on the tables, but the governments are still refusing to cooperate and give up the Nukes, so the ETs have pretty much decided one way or another they pretty much are just going to remove all Nuclear Tech on the entire planet whether its' done willingly with the cooperation of the world governments or not. If they cooperate, they get rewarded but still have to agree to disclosure and sharing of the tech etc with the people (which they will be forced to share if they don't "play nice")...if not, the good ET/EDs pretty much say "screw you world governments." continue to remove and prevent nuclear tech from being used destructively , clean up what is already here and give the fancy things to the people, disclose themselves and help the people as is meant to happen and is happening anyway.

[Unified Serenity]

I see a deeper destabilization happening as some try to remove the "power system / structure" and that my friends is called a vacuum! Nature abhors those and people react poorly to massive changes in their happy paradigm no matter how miserable they are in general, they don't want to change things that much! Thus we have chaos and crisis ensue. Be very careful of lollipop dreams and gum-sickle fantasies.

I smell a rat, and I smell eager minds in nefarious places eagerly awaiting the coming catastrophe of the little people attempting to take control. Of course I could be completely wrong and Lord Axelbaum of the Galactic Brotherhood of love, light and tea on Sundays is going to keep everything working smoothly and not let any of the big bad boogie men in the millenia old cabal do anything nasty to us.

We are going into a time of great turmoil in order to drive us to the edge and begging for peace at which time we will be offered the very thing the elites have had planned for us for hundreds of years, yet only put the finishing touches on this past century. They have had our new zoo waiting and we will happily munch away on the portions they provide while we entertain them endlessly with our antics and believe we are free. It's a beautiful plan in a very sick and twisted way.

[Unified Serenity]

Here is what I should have posted because this is our reality:

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[crosby]

now, speaking psychologically, which is the way that they began their human farming technique, how can we turn it around? without the use of capital? if we can answer this question, which is actually very difficult, we can take control.
regards, corson

[sygh]

There will be information going out, from what I understand, in the mainstream. Information so damning and extensive, there will be no turning back for the cabal.

Let us see about this. And let us spread the word as well.

[gripreaper]

gripreaper, you said a lot - but are you "sovereign?"

Within the context of the existing paradigm, the rule of law, and commerce in the fiat system, the answer is no.

As far as becoming self realized, determined and responsible, I have extricated myself as much as I can and "fly under the radar" as much as I can, while I learn how to operate on the private side. This includes being completely out of debt, and providing for my sustenance outside of commerce as much as possible.

Yes, I did the Tim Turner freedom documents years ago, the UCC 1 and the declarations and filings with the Treasury, but that proved to be of little or no value unless one is able to fully extricate themselves and completely operate outside of commerce, which is next to impossible. Those who claim that they have access to their trust accounts and are offsetting their obligations through the treasury are few and far between, and as far as I know, have not been successful. The private remedy, acceptance for value, EFT, bonded promissory notes, secured party creditor, and the other private remedies based on the 1933 bankruptcy are mostly untenable.

I do practice spiritually at preserving my life force and focusing it, and clearing my chakras of outdated belief systems to restore my energy field to wholeness and unity. Who knows, one day I hope to able to reach a level of consciousness where I can say with certainty that I have access to the higher dimensions and my KA etheric body is fully charged.

[crosby]

this will be good sygh. i hope it happens soon.
warmest regards, corson

[A Simple Human]

An address to all PA members:

Although I initially respond to jackovesk, this is a post that I feel all Avalonians should read.


'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

“God Bless You!”, jackovesk, for taking the time out of your busy posting schedule to grace this forum with your presence and for contributing to this thread. Is this your attempt at bringing the “thunder” from down under, mate? :boxing:

I find you to be a humorous fellow. I rather enjoy your sarcastic quips, which are usually underlined with a sense of pessimism. I tend to have a sarcastic sense of humor too. It appears that at least several Avalonians view your remarks as an affront to the very nature of PA. I do not however. I view your post as a platform with which to dismantle some preconceived notions, as well as, interject some new “memes” that I haven’t seen displayed yet regarding this topic. I realize that many individuals posses a “5 second” attention span. As this may be a lengthy post, I politely request that you, “Buttercups”, all bear with me.

Firstly, I have never advocated that anyone simply “sit back and let others save the world for us”. :hand: Now I may be A Simple Human being and look like a caveman in my Avatar pic, but I can assure you that I am not naïve. I merely provided updated information from an independent source, regardless if that source is truthful or not, much like you often do. In fact, I feel that I am one of the more balanced posters on PA. A quick review of several of my previous posts will reveal this. So I implore you, along with anyone else in doubt, to take a look.

So often I read posts that dreamily offer impractical notions of global change. Generally people seem to desire to affect the largest scope and grandest scale possible first which they are undoubtedly unable to actually do, and then work toward changing themselves. I say no! Everyone must work from center point (themselves) first and then work outward from that point:

“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” - Mahatma Gandhi

Secondly, I provided an email (post # 6) that I had initially composed just for family, friends, etc. on my original thread titled, American citizens: Become aware, then prepare (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43269-American-citizens-Become-aware-then-prepare-). Although I did receive great support, I believe that post has been misinterpreted by some and overlooked by others. I clearly provided that email not as an educational tool for Avalonians, but rather as an aid for Avalonians to share with others as I believe was clearly stated in my introductory post:



Purpose: Obviously there are those of you already well versed in, and who have decided to share with your family and friends, the following material. For that, I commend you. I offer the following email, as an anonymous independent source, to the uninitiated and those out there who would like to share with family and friends, but can not either summon the words or muster the courage to share due to fear of criticism.


Within post # 6 on that thread, I offered a very simplistic framework to begin the process for world change:

It is now time to ACT! I developed ACT as an acronym which stands for:

Acknowledge - that we all have been lied to for generations and our reality is not what we currently perceive it to be by researching such topics as alternative history, science, politics, and religion. There's an overwhelming number of free resources online covering the aforementioned topics including video, audio, and written documents. Always use discretion!

Connect - with your family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. and share what you have learned. Help produce a knowledgeable and enlightened community.

Transform - our civilization, along with other knowledgeable and enlightened individuals, into a society in which we all want to live. Obviously this is going to be a monumental process spanning many many years.

The framework, particularly for Transform, is not specific because everyone has unique abilities, attributes, financial status, etc. with which to work with; therefore, the way in which each individual contributes to our positive global transformation will be vastly different. Note though that the Acknowledge and Connect steps are easily accomplished by anyone wishing to do so. Furthermore, please note that this framework is a far cry from advising others to just “sit on their ass, and wait”.

Thirdly, I provided the following excerpt from post # 251 on the David Wilcock “DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section 1 – Defeating Financial Tyranny” thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43077-David-Wilcock-DIVINE-INTERVENTION-Section-I-Defeating-Financial-Tyranny/page13):


I feel too big a deal is being made about the veracity of the "Drake" report. He may be wrong, or he may be right. I feel far too many people are looking for prophets. Take every alternative community messenger's words with a grain of salt because practically all have been incorrect about something at one time or another. I feel our civilization is on the brink of a massive paradigm shift. That does not mean that there will not be growing pains experienced in the process. In fact, usually when the greatest pressure is applied, the greatest degree of change occurs. Perhaps we collectively need such intense stress in order to experience such a dramatic paradigm shift.

I believe that it is important for everyone to become introspective at this time. We must reconcile our fears within ourselves first, before we are truly prepared to face a change of such tremendous magnitude. I would like to believe that the majority of service men and women are pure of heart, that they will uphold the constitution, and that they understand that protecting innocent civilians is paramount to following orders from a corrupt commanding officer. If this is not so, and they do not arrest the Cabal members, and instead begin confiscating weapons, rounding up civilians, and murdering people...so what?! What is death other than a transition anyway? Obviously a paradigm shift with zero bloodshed is ideal, however, unrealistic. Our civilization has been barbaric for 10s of thousands of years (perhaps longer), and I do not see all Cabal members simply giving up without a fight, especially not after planning for such an extensive amount of time. Perhaps one last bloody revolution (although I'm not advocating it!) is what is needed to finally wake up every last human being on the planet. Consider the following rhetorical questions:

Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

or

Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry (March 23, 1775), A.S.H. (April 5, 2012)

[Excerpt from another post of mine] To be prepared for change, one must be proactive and anticipate the change. This does not mean to dwell, night and day, on every potential change and all the potential outcomes. This does not mean to constantly live in fear. Everyone must simply acknowledge that a significant change (whatever it is) is on the horizon, prepare themselves physically, mentally, and emotionally for it, and be at peace with it. It is imperative to be adaptable. As Bruce Lee suggested, we must be like water.

"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee

Now while one is ACTing, they must also concurrently ask themselves the aforementioned rhetorical questions from the excerpt above. It is not until one arrives at the answers (whatever they are; there is no right answer, just a “free will” choice) and makes peace with them that one will be able to change himself/herself, change others, and eventually change the world.

Additionally, I implied that we should not seek “prophets”. Alie made the point of seeking “guidance”, which I wholeheartedly agree with, in the following reply (post # 252):


I am in agreement that we MUST become extremely strong --- mentally, emotionally, spiritually (the physical? well I'm working on that). So in that regards it is totally up to the individual. When it is implied that we're looking for a "prophet", at least for me, it's true. I AM looking for a guiding light.

When I have brought this up before, there were some on this forum who disagreed with the fact I'm looking to others rather than myself for leadership/guidance.

To me, this is just a matter of semantics. I specifically used the term “prophet”, 1. one who utters divinely inspired revelations, 2. one gifted with more than ordinary spiritual and moral insight , 3. one who foretells future events (Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prophet)). We should not rely on prognostications from those that claim to be holier-than-thou; however, it’s reasonable, at times, to request guidance from a “guide”, 1.a one that leads or directs another's way, b. a person who exhibits and explains points of interest, e. a person who directs another's conduct or course of life (Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/guide)).

Finally, we must all humble ourselves and acknowledge that the only “Truth” that we currently posses is that we do not currently posses the “Truth”. If we are all individual aspects of “God”, then any “Truth”, whether it comes from spirits, angels, extraterrestrials, multidimensional beings, channels, David Wilcock, or Alex Jones, is just another perspective variant, albeit perhaps a better informed one, of the “Truth”. It is important to recognize and accept this fact on our quest to change civilization.

Now for those that are highly critical of the “Wilcock – Drake” story (or any other story for that matter), I understand your skepticism. I feel that a healthy dose of skepticism should be applied to all new information one comes across, and anyone who has read and comprehended the previous portion of this post knows that I recommend everyone actively contribute, to the best of your ability, to changing our collective future.

Some thoughts to ponder:

1. I have seen it stated on various sites that “Drake” is a disinfo agent sent to discredit David Wilcock. Really?! I mean how much credit does Mr. Wilcock have to begin with? He has been wrong about several items before, and he has also affiliated with other members of the alternative community who have been wrong in the past as well. Even if he has maintained shreds of credibility with the alternative community, do you think he has extensive notoriety with mainstream society? I prefer to use his work, along with many others’, to illustrate the dire situation our civilization is in, as opposed to simply using it to show it as the only viable solution.

2. I have also seen it stated that “Drake” is a disinfo agent sent to obfuscate the entire alternative community; thereby, rendering us ineffective once the NWO is ushered in. Now this really makes me laugh! Wow, the egos on some supposedly enlightened beings.

Newsflash folks, the alternative community members who are truly “aware” make up less than 1% of the population. The US Census Bureau (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html) claims that there are now over 7,007,000,000 on the face of the planet. Have you ever seen how many hits alternative media sites get on their videos, articles, blogs, etc.? If they’re lucky they may get a couple of million per item, but usually they get a couple hundred thousand. Now that’s not really putting a dent in the 7+ billion people on the planet, is it? Sorry to burst your bubble.

So what was our plan again anyway? I’m sorry, I’m new here and I didn’t quite catch it. Can someone get me up to speed? Is it to quickly boot up our computers and log into PA to submit one last post, while the NWO agents are breaking down our doors? Then kick and scream, “I didn’t hit submit yet!” while clutching our keyboards as they drag us off to some internment camp? Thought so!

3. It’s also been declared by several posters that there’s no way that any military will intervene on behalf of the citizens. Well given the stats I just presented, you better hope that they do because if every soldier on the entire planet is bought and paid for by the Cabal then we are in some serious trouble. Several hundred thousand rebellious “aware” citizens on any one continent are not going to be a match for several million trained killing machines with the latest tech weapons.

Are we to believe that no one other than the Cabal members is intelligent, cunning, passionate, and resourceful enough to develop secret plans spanning decades? Are there no honorable service men and women left? Weren’t they civilians before enlisting, as well as, after being discharged? Are they not still citizens of their respective country while they are serving? Do service men and women have family, friends, etc. that are not also service men and women, but regular civilians?

Has anyone considered that the vast majority of whistleblowers that have come forth have divulged horrific tales of the Cabal because they could no longer stand withholding the secret information from the public? This sets an overwhelming negative precedent, which indoctrinates and, to some extent, fascinates the alternative community. This negative precedent is a “meme” that allows many individuals to quickly accept any whistleblower’s testimony, who was formerly associated with the Cabal and discusses horrendous acts, as “Truth”, while conversely it encourages individuals to dismiss any positive testimony as impossible. I believe this is taking place now.

Can anyone hark back to when they first learned of the NWO? Did you instantly believe that there was a small group of secret controllers running the planet? How about the potential that the small group may not even be human at all? I know I sure didn’t. It took some time and a massive amount of research for me to fully believe it. Looking back, I would say that I was foolish to so quickly dismiss the notion. I’m saying the same thing now. We are still subject to the Old World paradigm whether we like it or not, and I believe many are now quick to dismiss anything that is not the “gloom and doom” that they have grown so accustomed to hearing.

I’m not guaranteeing that the military, along with police officers, are going to conduct mass arrests because they may not. If they do not, then what are you going to do about it anyway? This is bigger than anyone of us.

4. “Do not wait for a Savior to change things for you” is a common sentiment among many alternative community members. Well, I happen to agree with this sentiment; however, everyone needs to keep in mind that the bulk of service men and women are human beings (I assume). Therefore if the military and police do arrest the Cabal en masse, does this constitute a Savior or just a group of human beings with consciences, compassion, and the means to take action? Do we want other humans on this planet to wake up and become aware of our dire situation, but just not the military or police?

5. There has been extensive debate about this “Wilcock – Drake” topic ad nauseam. I wonder if it’s worth so much time. These events seem to be out of our individual hands. I’ve learned years ago that it’s not worth worrying about things that are completely out of your control. Worrying is a great waste of time and energy, which could otherwise be spent sharing, building, learning, helping, preparing, etc.

Seemingly everyone wants a smooth transition into a new “Golden Age”. Well, I can’t blame anyone because I’d love that too. The problem I see with many peoples expectations is that they are extremely unrealistic at this point.

Too many people want us to be “Creator Gods” right now. They expect us to completely remove any form of government, money, and the dependence on technology right away. Then supposedly we will base our civilization on our spiritual awareness. Sorry, but I don’t see that happening, at least right now. Unless there are galactic waves and/or solar flares that completely alter our DNA or expand our consciousness overnight, I really don’t see this as a realistic possibility.

It has taken millennia to get to this point. So should we simply expect everything to change in a day? It will most likely take decades, and several generations, before we can completely do away with government, money, etc…

Perhaps it’s a good idea to get the bastards out of power first, so that people around the world can have clean water to drink, food to eat, clothes to wear, and shelter to live in before we focus on spiritual growth. Providing these necessities, will actually allow for spiritual growth, but it’s going to be a process that takes time.

“Creator Gods” may very well be our destination, but right now it’s about the journey.

Everyone needs to consider where they stand and what they will do if nothing positive comes to pass. Are you prepared if/when the SHTF? Do you remember the rhetorical questions I posted up above?


Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

or

Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

If you can answer these questions honestly to yourself, then you’re well on you’re way to being prepared for whatever may come.

I know I am. I have become water; going with the flow, and ready to crash when/if needed.

“Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.” - William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

Peace,

A.S.H.

PS: I thank everyone who made it this far (who actually read my entire post!) for their time and patience. So did I inspire any new thoughts, or am I just a “douche”, or both? :biggrin1:

[NancyV]

Both maybe, or neither, but hopefully you don't care what anyone else thinks about you! LOL... Great post, well worth slogging through the whole thing!
:)

[crosby]

indeed NancyV, it was well worth the read. A.S.H., i believe that you have done a fine job. no worries.
regards, corson

[A Simple Human]

Both maybe, or neither, but hopefully you don't care what anyone else thinks about you! LOL... Great post, well worth slogging through the whole thing!
:)

@ NancyV,

I don't. It was meant to humor myself ;) and thanks.

[araucaria]

Many of the reservations expressed here about what is going on are what I would call maximalist. All this is part of a much picture which we can’t even imagine, never mind do anything about. I beg to disagree.

There is no need to be minimalist either. Dismantling the Fed and the bankster system is one major item on the alternative community’s agenda. It is one key domino that is being knocked over by many before it with many more to come after it.

Just why it is so key has to do with the billions of people who are allegedly asleep and who this is going to wake up. They may be unaware of the esoteric stuff we talk about here, but they are the ones being most oppressed by this system, much than any of us here. Unburdening them will release so much pent-up energy that anything will become possible.

Let’s not forget these billions of people who will make all the difference. Their wake-up call was set for a later after yours, that’s all. :) :) :)

[christian]

This is out of Wilcock's blogpost:

"The whole thing was never more than a series of enormous numbers in a massive glut of fake bank accounts -- designed to pump up their members' egos to super-human levels."

What a way to describe the nature/function of the "wealth" of TPTW.

[Calz]

An address to all PA members:




I'll make the mods happy and simply snip and thank you for a great post ...

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/treeswing.gif

Cal

[ghostrider]

Does the world even know how to be free and think for themselves?

Don't worry guys we can help educate them and once this goes down and if it does then our credibility will sky rocket and they might actually want to listen to what we have to say. I'm still cautious about it and preparing for the worst but there have been a lot of stories that seem to corroborate drake's testimony. Continue to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. As long as we continue to do that nobody can accuse us of being gullible.

now you on to why you are awake, to help educate the world to a higher way of thinking....it's really the task for us all to be awake and share what we know with the world. you're all spiritual teachers , lifting the veil for the planet....

[mountain_jim]

An address to all PA members:




I'll make the mods happy and simply snip and thank you for a great post ...

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/treeswing.gif

Cal

I agree that A Simple Human's post above was so well-crafted and so resonates with my thinking/feeling/intuiting on these matters that a simple 'Thanks' button press simply does not suffice, at least for me.

<insert image of enthusiastically applauding theater crowd here> :)

edit: I hope and intend that all eventually really fully (to the extent possible) understand this when they ACT:


“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.”- Mahatma Gandhi


So much meaning in that.

[foreverfan]

I love this stroke of brillance from Wilcock...

IT WILL BECOME MUCH CLEARER ONCE IT HAPPENS

Really? Thanks for the special insight Dave. Shows you have your thinking cap still on. LOL

J/K Dave... I loved it.
_____________________

On a more serious note... We can't even get Obama's real birth certificate. How the hell are they going to enforce this?

And how at the local level will the police forces know who to support when this all goes down. If I was the Cabal, I'd already paid off the Federal Marshals and have them ready to arrest the resistance. I can see this whole thing turning into a mess too. We're by no means out of the woods. This is more like the first shots fired.

http://donthavekids.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/toothbrush-and-toilet-paper.jpg?w=460

[YvonneG]

This one is short and sweet which seems to be a better one to share with people who won't listen 3 hours with Drake explaining what is going on...and also the Liens filed against the 12 Federal Reserve banks which explained in depth on David Wilcock's site.

Answers a lot...

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/even-more-of-the-drake-this-time-with-bill-wood-4-14-14-thankyouwhiteknights-radio-show-video-and-mp3s/

[jackovesk]

edit...I'll censor myself thanks...:)

[Chester]

to A Simple Human regarding your post above #65.
I saw the post late last night and so I decided to read it carefully and fully when I had the next chance to properly focus (and reflect upon while I read it). Besides #65 being a very good post with several important points, many of which I align with - I saw your mention of the e-mail you wrote up for your family and friends which has been something I have been working on for awhile. So I went to search for the post of your e-mail, found it and read through it.
I thought you did a great job and I am asking your permission that I could use your text to send to my family and friends. If you say YES, I would be glad to let them know that a like minded individual created this text for his family and friends and that you allowed me to use your text.
I hope you allow me as well as others to send out your text.
justoneman

[EnergyGardener]

'God Knows' I want this 'STORY' to be 'True'...

But there really should be at least some sort of 'Balance & Discernment in this reporting...

Now would you please http://dpi.state.wi.us/images/tepdl/ being so 'Naive' and start using your own 'Discernment'..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you people, never cease to amaze me...

Rgs,

Jack

Jack,

Our dire circumstances are and have been extensive. You, Alex Jones, David Ickes, many here at PA and others, have been very diligent and even brave for pointing these out. But, you must appreciate and accept that this vital negative part of our mission is but only the first step. I am hoping that you can appreciate that without solutions, only ranting about the problem simply creates fear, paralysis and panic.:yes4:

Infinite steps of calming, reeducation, learning and implementing better systems to bring Earth Terrans up to universal standards must and will begin in earnest. Taking the reconstruction steps with "Divine Intervention" does not in any way indicate the lack of "Discernment" by so many amazing Terrans. By your responses it is apparent you do not understand our perspective in this effort. Your refusal to read the handwriting on the wall might be an indication that you do not know all things, that creative problem solving may not be your strong suit. However, if you are looking for more evidence to justify your effort or support for those that are, perhaps you will join the effort for that validation—rather than criticize those that accept good news and are working very hard in that effort.:noidea:

Providing solutions is much more difficult than criticism and problem identification, because Murphy's law is not limited to the 3rd; we have been largely living in the dark, and mistakes will be made. While malice should be pointed out, we must also provide room for honest mistakes, misunderstandings and inaccuracies—we are human, these must be accepted and forgiven, but most important, supported for the greater good.:kiss:

I agree and have posted previously of the inaccuracies you point out, including many of Fulford's claims about the benefits of working with any of the status quo, including the Illuminati, B.I.S., Royal Family U.N. and certainly any of those in power from U.S., Great Britain, Israel and China. While I appreciate Putin's efforts to steer Russia in a positive direction, I would not choose for Putin to have any say with regard to the U.S.—or anywhere else but Russia.:nono:

Wilcock has also demonstrated inconsistencies, but who hasn't?:unsure:

I prefer to focus on what much greater good Wilcock has accomplished, including his History Channel disclosures, the Drake interview, his efforts announcing ongoing Divine Intervention and the upcoming Mass Arrests. It is imperative for those of us that know to encourage and support the US Marshals, Pentagon, local police, good pols and voluntary military and militias—they must appreciate that Terrans, now awakening from our slumber, will accept nothing less.
:wizard:

I believe most of the current problem solvers have ventured afar from other realms; we are all on a sharp learning curve dealing with the purpose, deceptions and evil of the dark beings. Now is certainly not the time to discourage this group and effort. Problem solvers must press on even now more than ever, for this great forward momentum must be increased, this effort (our purpose for incarnation) will not be deterred.:nono:

So, for the moment I am cutting you the same slack I am asking you to cut everyone else; I am overlooking your sharp criticisms for the sake of your great past and future work: I am instead, asking you too to be so kind as to procure more main-stream evidence of the dominoes falling, immediately with the B.I.S. boot and debt forgiveness from Iceland. Can you and others procure more information to validate the Iceland circumstance, then find the second, third and fourth brave countries that will soon follow suit?:yu:

Why am I so confident this avalanche of B.I.S. / reptoid culture overthrow will soon accelerate beyond our wildest dreams? For the simple reason that politicians are realizing that for their survival they must be identified as part of the solution rather than further support the criminals (previous owners of most), that until now, have held a gun to their (and their families') heads. In the removal of their oppressive banking, technology, disinformation, and brutal manipulations, killing and thievery, these politicians must now answer to many more awakening Terrans that wrongfully believed they were looking out for them. For whatever crimes they have committed, those that step up first will be most appreciated in the courts of legal and public opinion. Will the politicians—and all others belonging to their secret societies in public and private capacities—receive any sympathy from the millions of Terrans if this information is disclosed only, but most importantly, first, by others?:warning2:


EnergyGardener.

[RunningDeer]

A simple thank you to Energy Gardener.

[Chester]

Great POST EnergyGardener - !!

[A Simple Human]

to A Simple Human regarding your post above #65.
I saw the post late last night and so I decided to read it carefully and fully when I had the next chance to properly focus (and reflect upon while I read it). Besides #65 being a very good post with several important points, many of which I align with - I saw your mention of the e-mail you wrote up for your family and friends which has been something I have been working on for awhile. So I went to search for the post of your e-mail, found it and read through it.
I thought you did a great job and I am asking your permission that I could use your text to send to my family and friends. If you say YES, I would be glad to let them know that a like minded individual created this text for his family and friends and that you allowed me to use your text.
I hope you allow me as well as others to send out your text.
justoneman

@ justoneman,

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort. You can also make any alterations you deem necessary provided you accept authorship and responsibility for the changes. I desire no credit. So it is not necessary to tell your family and friends that I created it.

Thanks for sharing,

A.S.H.

[GoodETxSG]

I worked for the FRB of Dallas and witnessed much while there. I will be glad to see these completely unethical people go down. They approached a lot of this as though it was a game to them... a game that was in the bag and had already won. I really hope this info is true and I am trying to confirm what I can from my sources. But they are low to mid level and probably do not have a need to know. We need to find out what we can do in the way of protests, moving our assets to Credit Untions etc to help shine a light on this issue. I have said it on other posts... come on people, stop being a spectator and join in the fight.

[Mozart]

I do practice spiritually at preserving my life force and focusing it, and clearing my chakras of outdated belief systems to restore my energy field to wholeness and unity. Who knows, one day I hope to able to reach a level of consciousness where I can say with certainty that I have access to the higher dimensions and my KA etheric body is fully charged.



Gripreaper ~

I'm amazed at how similar our journeys through the maze of the Law/legal systems that we both had battled with over the years.

I, too, did the Redemption Process, plus have spent many years in the Sovereignty movement with various attempts to extricate myself from the damn system, only to find out utterly difficult it is to be truly sovereign in world that was dominated by the imposition of a color-of-law system at the barrels of the guns wielded by agents of the legal-fiction bastards.

I've had knock-down, drag-out verbal battles with judges with the end result of my being "banned" from the local court system and being left alone, even if I was not carrying any insurance paperwork, driver ID, registration.

After my last court battle -- in which the judge called up everyone except me, shut down the court and took it into the judge's chambers to reconvene just for me (and my court reporter) to carry on our on-going court battles, I was able to effect a stay of proceedings, pending a higher court review, which gave the judge an escape that he was glad to utilize -- I have yet to get a ticket in six cop stops, each of which I did not present an ID, any insurance registration, vehicle registration,etc ... I simply told them the legal-fiction, nome-de gurre name that they associate with me.

The cops would write down that name, go to their vehicles and come back with a "have a nice day -- and be sure to carry your ID and paperwork next time" -- all this with my prior records of not carrying insurance and being fined over $1,000 for not having insurance, etc. In most cases, somebody in my shoes would receive tickets, along with ever-massive fines, like in the several thousands of dollars, given that this nom de gurre name has had a long list of damn priors ... yet, all I got was a simple "just carry that ID and paperwork next time. Six times! Go figure!

I actually DID have insurance after the last tussle with the court (it was not for the court, but for a moral responsibility to take care of others just in case an accident DID happen), but I simply did not present the paperwork to the cops (by pretending to not find it), along with any other form of ID ... I simply told 'em a name and it matched up with their records of the vehicle license plate info, their data of the legal-fiction name, picture, etc, so they knew that I was telling them the truth about the legal-fiction, nom-de gurre name.

So, like you, gripreaper and like Drake, I've been there, done that with the sovereignty movement.

It's been a rough journey and an expensive, painful education, but I do appreciate what I know now ... and it's not complete, by any stretch, as there are many minds out there that are much greater and more skilled in the Law/legal worlds that my mind is, but I do understand just enough to keep my ass out of trouble ... barely.

Until the mass arrest info came along, I'd been pretty damn depressed and really eff'n pissed off about the whole system. This Drake info is giving me renewed hope and I'm trusting my long-time buddy, David Wilcock, that his information -- that he has yet to release to the public -- fully supports the idea of the mass arrests so strongly that he said to me in a private email: It will happen.

So at risk of having my fragile, battered flag of hope be raised again up my sovereignty flagpole, I'm up and fighting this battle again.

~Mozart

[Erich]

An address to all PA members:

Although I initially respond to jackovesk, this is a post that I feel all Avalonians should read.


'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

“God Bless You!”, jackovesk, for taking the time out of your busy posting schedule to grace this forum with your presence and for contributing to this thread. Is this your attempt at bringing the “thunder” from down under, mate? :boxing:

I find you to be a humorous fellow. I rather enjoy your sarcastic quips, which are usually underlined with a sense of pessimism. I tend to have a sarcastic sense of humor too. It appears that at least several Avalonians view your remarks as an affront to the very nature of PA. I do not however. I view your post as a platform with which to dismantle some preconceived notions, as well as, interject some new “memes” that I haven’t seen displayed yet regarding this topic. I realize that many individuals posses a “5 second” attention span. As this may be a lengthy post, I politely request that you, “Buttercups”, all bear with me.

Firstly, I have never advocated that anyone simply “sit back and let others save the world for us”. :hand: Now I may be A Simple Human being and look like a caveman in my Avatar pic, but I can assure you that I am not naïve. I merely provided updated information from an independent source, regardless if that source is truthful or not, much like you often do. In fact, I feel that I am one of the more balanced posters on PA. A quick review of several of my previous posts will reveal this. So I implore you, along with anyone else in doubt, to take a look.

So often I read posts that dreamily offer impractical notions of global change. Generally people seem to desire to affect the largest scope and grandest scale possible first which they are undoubtedly unable to actually do, and then work toward changing themselves. I say no! Everyone must work from center point (themselves) first and then work outward from that point:

“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” - Mahatma Gandhi

Secondly, I provided an email (post # 6) that I had initially composed just for family, friends, etc. on my original thread titled, American citizens: Become aware, then prepare (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43269-American-citizens-Become-aware-then-prepare-). Although I did receive great support, I believe that post has been misinterpreted by some and overlooked by others. I clearly provided that email not as an educational tool for Avalonians, but rather as an aid for Avalonians to share with others as I believe was clearly stated in my introductory post:



Purpose: Obviously there are those of you already well versed in, and who have decided to share with your family and friends, the following material. For that, I commend you. I offer the following email, as an anonymous independent source, to the uninitiated and those out there who would like to share with family and friends, but can not either summon the words or muster the courage to share due to fear of criticism.


Within post # 6 on that thread, I offered a very simplistic framework to begin the process for world change:

It is now time to ACT! I developed ACT as an acronym which stands for:

Acknowledge - that we all have been lied to for generations and our reality is not what we currently perceive it to be by researching such topics as alternative history, science, politics, and religion. There's an overwhelming number of free resources online covering the aforementioned topics including video, audio, and written documents. Always use discretion!

Connect - with your family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. and share what you have learned. Help produce a knowledgeable and enlightened community.

Transform - our civilization, along with other knowledgeable and enlightened individuals, into a society in which we all want to live. Obviously this is going to be a monumental process spanning many many years.

The framework, particularly for Transform, is not specific because everyone has unique abilities, attributes, financial status, etc. with which to work with; therefore, the way in which each individual contributes to our positive global transformation will be vastly different. Note though that the Acknowledge and Connect steps are easily accomplished by anyone wishing to do so. Furthermore, please note that this framework is a far cry from advising others to just “sit on their ass, and wait”.

Thirdly, I provided the following excerpt from post # 251 on the David Wilcock “DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section 1 – Defeating Financial Tyranny” thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43077-David-Wilcock-DIVINE-INTERVENTION-Section-I-Defeating-Financial-Tyranny/page13):


I feel too big a deal is being made about the veracity of the "Drake" report. He may be wrong, or he may be right. I feel far too many people are looking for prophets. Take every alternative community messenger's words with a grain of salt because practically all have been incorrect about something at one time or another. I feel our civilization is on the brink of a massive paradigm shift. That does not mean that there will not be growing pains experienced in the process. In fact, usually when the greatest pressure is applied, the greatest degree of change occurs. Perhaps we collectively need such intense stress in order to experience such a dramatic paradigm shift.

I believe that it is important for everyone to become introspective at this time. We must reconcile our fears within ourselves first, before we are truly prepared to face a change of such tremendous magnitude. I would like to believe that the majority of service men and women are pure of heart, that they will uphold the constitution, and that they understand that protecting innocent civilians is paramount to following orders from a corrupt commanding officer. If this is not so, and they do not arrest the Cabal members, and instead begin confiscating weapons, rounding up civilians, and murdering people...so what?! What is death other than a transition anyway? Obviously a paradigm shift with zero bloodshed is ideal, however, unrealistic. Our civilization has been barbaric for 10s of thousands of years (perhaps longer), and I do not see all Cabal members simply giving up without a fight, especially not after planning for such an extensive amount of time. Perhaps one last bloody revolution (although I'm not advocating it!) is what is needed to finally wake up every last human being on the planet. Consider the following rhetorical questions:

Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

or

Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry (March 23, 1775), A.S.H. (April 5, 2012)

[Excerpt from another post of mine] To be prepared for change, one must be proactive and anticipate the change. This does not mean to dwell, night and day, on every potential change and all the potential outcomes. This does not mean to constantly live in fear. Everyone must simply acknowledge that a significant change (whatever it is) is on the horizon, prepare themselves physically, mentally, and emotionally for it, and be at peace with it. It is imperative to be adaptable. As Bruce Lee suggested, we must be like water.

"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee

Now while one is ACTing, they must also concurrently ask themselves the aforementioned rhetorical questions from the excerpt above. It is not until one arrives at the answers (whatever they are; there is no right answer, just a “free will” choice) and makes peace with them that one will be able to change himself/herself, change others, and eventually change the world.

Additionally, I implied that we should not seek “prophets”. Alie made the point of seeking “guidance”, which I wholeheartedly agree with, in the following reply (post # 252):


I am in agreement that we MUST become extremely strong --- mentally, emotionally, spiritually (the physical? well I'm working on that). So in that regards it is totally up to the individual. When it is implied that we're looking for a "prophet", at least for me, it's true. I AM looking for a guiding light.

When I have brought this up before, there were some on this forum who disagreed with the fact I'm looking to others rather than myself for leadership/guidance.

To me, this is just a matter of semantics. I specifically used the term “prophet”, 1. one who utters divinely inspired revelations, 2. one gifted with more than ordinary spiritual and moral insight , 3. one who foretells future events (Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prophet)). We should not rely on prognostications from those that claim to be holier-than-thou; however, it’s reasonable, at times, to request guidance from a “guide”, 1.a one that leads or directs another's way, b. a person who exhibits and explains points of interest, e. a person who directs another's conduct or course of life (Merriam-Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/guide)).

Finally, we must all humble ourselves and acknowledge that the only “Truth” that we currently posses is that we do not currently posses the “Truth”. If we are all individual aspects of “God”, then any “Truth”, whether it comes from spirits, angels, extraterrestrials, multidimensional beings, channels, David Wilcock, or Alex Jones, is just another perspective variant, albeit perhaps a better informed one, of the “Truth”. It is important to recognize and accept this fact on our quest to change civilization.

Now for those that are highly critical of the “Wilcock – Drake” story (or any other story for that matter), I understand your skepticism. I feel that a healthy dose of skepticism should be applied to all new information one comes across, and anyone who has read and comprehended the previous portion of this post knows that I recommend everyone actively contribute, to the best of your ability, to changing our collective future.

Some thoughts to ponder:

1. I have seen it stated on various sites that “Drake” is a disinfo agent sent to discredit David Wilcock. Really?! I mean how much credit does Mr. Wilcock have to begin with? He has been wrong about several items before, and he has also affiliated with other members of the alternative community who have been wrong in the past as well. Even if he has maintained shreds of credibility with the alternative community, do you think he has extensive notoriety with mainstream society? I prefer to use his work, along with many others’, to illustrate the dire situation our civilization is in, as opposed to simply using it to show it as the only viable solution.

2. I have also seen it stated that “Drake” is a disinfo agent sent to obfuscate the entire alternative community; thereby, rendering us ineffective once the NWO is ushered in. Now this really makes me laugh! Wow, the egos on some supposedly enlightened beings.

Newsflash folks, the alternative community members who are truly “aware” make up less than 1% of the population. The US Census Bureau (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html) claims that there are now over 7,007,000,000 on the face of the planet. Have you ever seen how many hits alternative media sites get on their videos, articles, blogs, etc.? If they’re lucky they may get a couple of million per item, but usually they get a couple hundred thousand. Now that’s not really putting a dent in the 7+ billion people on the planet, is it? Sorry to burst your bubble.

So what was our plan again anyway? I’m sorry, I’m new here and I didn’t quite catch it. Can someone get me up to speed? Is it to quickly boot up our computers and log into PA to submit one last post, while the NWO agents are breaking down our doors? Then kick and scream, “I didn’t hit submit yet!” while clutching our keyboards as they drag us off to some internment camp? Thought so!

3. It’s also been declared by several posters that there’s no way that any military will intervene on behalf of the citizens. Well given the stats I just presented, you better hope that they do because if every soldier on the entire planet is bought and paid for by the Cabal then we are in some serious trouble. Several hundred thousand rebellious “aware” citizens on any one continent are not going to be a match for several million trained killing machines with the latest tech weapons.

Are we to believe that no one other than the Cabal members is intelligent, cunning, passionate, and resourceful enough to develop secret plans spanning decades? Are there no honorable service men and women left? Weren’t they civilians before enlisting, as well as, after being discharged? Are they not still citizens of their respective country while they are serving? Do service men and women have family, friends, etc. that are not also service men and women, but regular civilians?

Has anyone considered that the vast majority of whistleblowers that have come forth have divulged horrific tales of the Cabal because they could no longer stand withholding the secret information from the public? This sets an overwhelming negative precedent, which indoctrinates and, to some extent, fascinates the alternative community. This negative precedent is a “meme” that allows many individuals to quickly accept any whistleblower’s testimony, who was formerly associated with the Cabal and discusses horrendous acts, as “Truth”, while conversely it encourages individuals to dismiss any positive testimony as impossible. I believe this is taking place now.

Can anyone hark back to when they first learned of the NWO? Did you instantly believe that there was a small group of secret controllers running the planet? How about the potential that the small group may not even be human at all? I know I sure didn’t. It took some time and a massive amount of research for me to fully believe it. Looking back, I would say that I was foolish to so quickly dismiss the notion. I’m saying the same thing now. We are still subject to the Old World paradigm whether we like it or not, and I believe many are now quick to dismiss anything that is not the “gloom and doom” that they have grown so accustomed to hearing.

I’m not guaranteeing that the military, along with police officers, are going to conduct mass arrests because they may not. If they do not, then what are you going to do about it anyway? This is bigger than anyone of us.

4. “Do not wait for a Savior to change things for you” is a common sentiment among many alternative community members. Well, I happen to agree with this sentiment; however, everyone needs to keep in mind that the bulk of service men and women are human beings (I assume). Therefore if the military and police do arrest the Cabal en masse, does this constitute a Savior or just a group of human beings with consciences, compassion, and the means to take action? Do we want other humans on this planet to wake up and become aware of our dire situation, but just not the military or police?

5. There has been extensive debate about this “Wilcock – Drake” topic ad nauseam. I wonder if it’s worth so much time. These events seem to be out of our individual hands. I’ve learned years ago that it’s not worth worrying about things that are completely out of your control. Worrying is a great waste of time and energy, which could otherwise be spent sharing, building, learning, helping, preparing, etc.

Seemingly everyone wants a smooth transition into a new “Golden Age”. Well, I can’t blame anyone because I’d love that too. The problem I see with many peoples expectations is that they are extremely unrealistic at this point.

Too many people want us to be “Creator Gods” right now. They expect us to completely remove any form of government, money, and the dependence on technology right away. Then supposedly we will base our civilization on our spiritual awareness. Sorry, but I don’t see that happening, at least right now. Unless there are galactic waves and/or solar flares that completely alter our DNA or expand our consciousness overnight, I really don’t see this as a realistic possibility.

It has taken millennia to get to this point. So should we simply expect everything to change in a day? It will most likely take decades, and several generations, before we can completely do away with government, money, etc…

Perhaps it’s a good idea to get the bastards out of power first, so that people around the world can have clean water to drink, food to eat, clothes to wear, and shelter to live in before we focus on spiritual growth. Providing these necessities, will actually allow for spiritual growth, but it’s going to be a process that takes time.

“Creator Gods” may very well be our destination, but right now it’s about the journey.

Everyone needs to consider where they stand and what they will do if nothing positive comes to pass. Are you prepared if/when the SHTF? Do you remember the rhetorical questions I posted up above?


Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

or

Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

If you can answer these questions honestly to yourself, then you’re well on you’re way to being prepared for whatever may come.

I know I am. I have become water; going with the flow, and ready to crash when/if needed.

“Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.” - William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

Peace,

A.S.H.

PS: I thank everyone who made it this far (who actually read my entire post!) for their time and patience. So did I inspire any new thoughts, or am I just a “douche”, or both? :biggrin1:

REQUIRED READING. Bravo!

[Chester]

to A Simple Human regarding your post above #65.
I saw the post late last night and so I decided to read it carefully and fully when I had the next chance to properly focus (and reflect upon while I read it). Besides #65 being a very good post with several important points, many of which I align with - I saw your mention of the e-mail you wrote up for your family and friends which has been something I have been working on for awhile. So I went to search for the post of your e-mail, found it and read through it.
I thought you did a great job and I am asking your permission that I could use your text to send to my family and friends. If you say YES, I would be glad to let them know that a like minded individual created this text for his family and friends and that you allowed me to use your text.
I hope you allow me as well as others to send out your text.
justoneman

@ justoneman,

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort. You can also make any alterations you deem necessary provided you accept authorship and responsibility for the changes. I desire no credit. So it is not necessary to tell your family and friends that I created it.

Thanks for sharing,

A.S.H.

I had a feeling you (A Simple Human) would not want credit - you solidified yourself as the real deal as far as I am concerned - I will send the mail as is and then place any of my own comments and additions separately.
Anyways, thanks again for putting together a great overview and allowing us to send it out to others.
justoneman

[Mozart]

Great POST EnergyGardener - !!

I totally concur.

Nice going, EnergyGardener!

[Mozart]

An address to all PA members:




I'll make the mods happy and simply snip and thank you for a great post ...

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/treeswing.gif

Cal

I agree that A Simple Human's post above was so well-crafted and so resonates with my thinking/feeling/intuiting on these matters that a simple 'Thanks' button press simply does not suffice, at least for me.

<insert image of enthusiastically applauding theater crowd here> :)



I also totally concur, Cal!

Great OP, Simple Human, dude! :clap2:

[gripreaper]

So at risk of having my fragile, battered flag of hope be raised again up my sovereignty flagpole, I'm up and fighting this battle again. ~Mozart

Thanks for being so candid Mozart. In honor of those who went before us and paid with their lives, as well as those who sit in prison to this day, I thanks you and respect you and admonish you for telling your story.

Many are new to this idea of sovereignty, and as I've said earlier, be cautious with the idea that paperwork can be sent to the Hague and now the military is backing you because you stood up as sovereign and stepped outside the matrix and are taking a stand. How many times have we heard that before, those of us who have been closely involved for years?

Sure, it's a healthy skepticism, but it's a bit jaded too for the likes of us who have gone head to head in their de facto court system. Once we realize what it means to "cross the bar" or to hire a lawyer, or to even speak, which means NOTHING in a de facto court, or how Common Law was suspended, statutes and resolutions are interpretive, what "presumptions" the system operates under and how the friggin banks roll over about 95% of the people and steal their houses when the banks did not provide any consideration in the loan AT ALL, it can make you a little jaded!!

It boggles my mind that the bank can take your negotiable instrument (all transactions are negotiable instruments,there is no money) and go to the Fed discount window and draw Federal reserve Notes and bring them into commerce as debt instruments based on your signature,then turn around and get people to sign promissory notes to give them the house when they have ALREADY PAID FOR IT at closing, and "THEN" send payments with interest, while the bank SELLS YOUR SECURITY making you and undisclosed third party to an investment contract, get's paid twice, insures it, pushes for default, get's PAID AGAIN on the insurance, AND get's the house too, to do it all over again!

They have absolutely no risk, provide no consideration, clip the transaction for fees at every turn, diluting it, and the courts go along with it and put us out on the street when it is us who is picking up the tab, not only in the purchase agreement, but in the taxes and government guarantees. So, we take all the risk, pay all the fees, do all the maintenance, pay all the taxes, pay all the interest, backstop and guarantee the insurance, remodel and upgrade them, and then give them back to the banks?

The irony of it all is so beyond comprehension, that it boggles my mind that more people are not up in arms. They drink way too much fluoride and are way too docile and lethargic.

So, I am hopeful that it is possible for there to be a contingent of souls on this planet who have seen tyranny for a long ways off and have been working opposite it to bring about the evolution awakening which is occurring now. Have you ever looked into Francis Bacon's contribution's to the St Germain Trust started back in the1700's? I know there is talk about the collateral accounts, the Treasury Direct Accounts, the global settlements,etc. as well as these huge alleged piles of gold hidden everywhere on the planet. I'm not so sure there are piles of gold everywhere as I think they have been taken off planet, and THAT is the biggest secret of all. The alchemical properties of gold as an eternal elixir, as well as a conductor and as an inducer, are the real reasons gold is so valuable.

No one can deny that there is a shift occurring, the debate is centered around how or when it is going to go down. You may like this video, "Change is on The Horizon". I started with part 3 and watched it first, and went back to part one and two for the back history later. Most will not sit through a 3 hour documentary.



Part 1 Dawn of the Golden Age – Discuses how Saint Germain helped bring about the
beginnings of a enlightened era which soon fell into darkness under the helms of the
Illuminati and a corrupted masonic order.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlNMFUrgjyM&feature=related

Part 2 – The American Federal Empire. America was always meant to be always a shinning
beacon of freedom and prosperity to the world. But the machinations of British bankers and
the Rothschild’s soon destroyed all that was once good in this great land.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImefSYpySwA

Part 3 – The Farmer Claim Program – Discuses how a class action lawsuit brought about in
the early 1990′s lead to the creation of NESARA, the National Economic Security and
Reformation which will ultimately tear apart the New World Order and bankers plans right
out from under their feet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOPIgNB-hGY

===

[ Mod-edit: I added a brief description to each video ("borrowed" from here (http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/change-is-on-the-horizon-the-epic-story-of-how-the-world-lost-its-soul-and-how-it-will-gain-it-back-directed-and-narrated-by-james-rink/)). -Paul. ]

[Hervé]

I didn't do it this time... :behindsofa:


[...]

... I'm not so sure there are piles of gold everywhere as I think they have been taken off planet, and THAT is the biggest secret of all. The alchemical properties of gold as an eternal elixir, as well as a conductor and as an inducer, are the real reasons gold is so valuable.

[...]


[...]

Personally, I don't think there as much gold as D.W. claims unless Earth has been "Treasure Island" to "space pirates" for eons.

[...]

... and Earth has been a predilected port of call for all sorts of space pirates for a very long time:


[...]

Now, regarding this Blue Marble, I am on the side of Alex Collier (latest interview here: http://www.charlesfrith.com/2011/10/new-interview-with-alex-collier-by.html) in considering it as a "Free Zone" or a galactic "Port Franc" where one could find all sorts of interstellar space travellers... pirates, corsairs, filibusters, privateers, buccaneers, shipwrecked, castaways, merchants, navy, etc. and all the accompanying trades and barters going along with those.

[...]


As for other uses of gold amongst others:



Slim Spurling (http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/slimspurling02jan08.shtml)

[...]


Slim said scientific experiments done on the coils show that they are superconductors at room temperature. To the other twenty students, this did not mean much but I was astounded.


I asked: "The coils are copper wire electroplated with silver and then gold. Is it the combination of gold, silver and copper causing room temperature superconductivity?"
Slim answered, "It appears to be a combination of the spiral coil [cut to] at Sacred Cubit sizes with the three metals."


I asked, "Do you get a change in gravity associated with superconductivity?"
Slim, "Yes, we do."


ZSL, "Could you scale the coils up to the size of UFO and create flying coils?"
Slim, "It is possible."


ZSL, "Could these discoveries confirm electro-gravity and the hollow Earth?"
Slim, "That might happen, but I cannot say it is so at this time."


[...]

[Alie]

So at risk of having my fragile, battered flag of hope be raised again up my sovereignty flagpole, I'm up and fighting this battle again. ~Mozart


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOPIgNB-hGY

Wow --- NESARA was signed into law in 2000 but it's been hidden from us. Check out Video 3 at about 22 minutes. The story has much about the "Good Guys" but also ties in 9/11 to it.

The awful part is how it was supposed to be revealed to us but 9/11 was implemented by Bush to prevent it.

[foreverfan]

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort.

I was trying to wake my wife up and got the stuffing slapped out of me. What's up with that?

[DreamsInDigital]

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort.

I was trying to wake my wife up and got the stuffing slapped out of me. What's up with that?
You must have been wearing your Pillow Costume again. ;)

[Mozart]

Gripreaper ~

Your post(#31) is one that is well-worth reading and researching terms for many people to study, so I recommend that those of you who have read through Gripreaper's post to read it again and again. It's that good.


If I recall correctly, you stated in a previous post/thread that you wanted to leave this forum -- I'm glad that you didn't. We need you here, bro.



If you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You CANNOT have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.



That's true -- one cannot have it both ways, but here's why Drake and his loose-knit Robin Hood group (the "Robin Hood" term is my term and it's meant in positive intent) are using the Hague process to stake their claim of sovereignty by rebirthing the Declaration of Independence.


It's this reason: To Win the Crowd.


Many of you have watched the "Gladiator", yes?


Here's a part of the movie that I never forgot:


I, too, want to stand in front of the Emperor.
As you did.
Then listen to me. Learn from me.
I wasn't the best because I killed quickly.
I was the best because the crowd loved me.
Win the crowd, and you'll win your freedom.
I will win the crowd.
I will give them something they have never seen before.

From: http://movie.subtitlr.com/


Movies are frequently messages that are hidden in the symbology of the movie dialogue, the imagery, the scenes, the acting, the props, etc, etc.


"Emperor" = the Pope


"Win the crowd" = Gain the support of the 134+ nation alliance (BRICS alliance) AND the world.


..."something they have never seen before" = Open contact with ETs


I'm going to give my post here a bit of a country flavor to it, I hope that the readers can bear with it.


So the Hague processes, both the declaration and the notification processes, are simply to gain the support of the world in terms of THEIR perceptions of the idea of "rule of law". We need to win the crowd of the world.


Our original Declaration of Independence had the power to create a nation, did it not? The power of it, the idea of it, the audacity of it to create a nation of sovereign people, banded together as "We the People" standing free from the Canon-law based reach of the Pompous Pope (Emperor) was strong enough to create a brand-new nation.


Did it go through any sort of color-of-law process? No -- all it had was what makes all legitimate contracts all over the world work -- signatures. It was the Signatories -- 56 of them -- who gave it life and the power to birth a new nation under God with Liberty and eff'n true Justice for all.


So that's part of what the Hague process does -- it gives us "legitimacy" through the eyes of the people of the world, with the help of the Indigenous Natives of Turtle Island, to rebirth our Declaration by standing up to the damn pompous Pope and the Illoonynaughties that we will no longer be their slaves and serfs.


And you know what? Canon law is bull**** -- we don't give a rat's ass about some damn "contract" that was imposed upon us way back in the Seventeenth Century. And why does it not apply to us? We are not Signatories to it!


Our signatures are the golden key to the entire world of commerce, so it's why the world of commerce has tricked many of us into false, hidden and implied contracts. Once the truth cat is out of the bag, there ain't any way that we can drag that cat back into the bag. No way.


The Pompous Pope has no claim over us(the People); the Illoonynaughties have no claim over us; the Queen of England has no claim over us -- all of those claims are bogus and no longer stand because they've stood on a foundation of lies, deceit and brutal applications of FORCE to trick the people into voluntary subjugation/servitude to those money masters.


FORCE is the only thing that the Money Masters understand, as they've used that aspect against us, the People of the world, many, many times, so now it's time to turn the tables and apply the same thing to those bastards and win back our freedom by FORCE that will have been legitimized by the Hague process, by the un-rebuttable liens against the Federal Reserve and the full support of the 134-nation BRICS alliance.





It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension.



Yes, there was a hole in the space-time continuum at Montauk, but it happened on August 13, 1943 and a nasty creature did come through and trash the base and kill most of the people who were there that day; however, it did not create a massive rip in the fabric of space-time for the whole planet -- so I wanted to clear that bit up.


And spaceships did not enter, either, because of the quarantine that is in effect around our entire planet and it's maintained by the "Council of Saturn" -- a council of EDs (Extra-Dimensionals), so this quarantine severely limits the number of negative ETs that would enter our planetary sphere and brutally subjugate us beyond belief ... WAY worse than how the Illoonynaughty bastards treated us. WAY WORSE.


This quarantine is still in effect today. Only a few UFOs of negative intent were allowed to enter our skies and mess with us. The vast majority of sighted UFOs are of our own origin, human-made, that are reverse-engineered craft, plus a few home-grown ones based on Tesla technology and Thomas Townsend Brown.




This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it.



Yes, this "gargantuan effort" did happen, but it was not a result of the rip of the space-time fabric from the Montauk Project. It was the result of the 1954 meeting of the ETs, Eisenhower and others at the then Muroc AFB, which is now Edwards AFB, in which the negative ETs (Zeta Reticulans) made a deal with the corporate US government to trade off some advanced ET-based technology for a resource that was precious to the negative ETs ... our DNA.


The positive ETs were there, too, and they made their views clear to Eisenhower and others there, but the lure of the hyper-advanced ET technologies was just too enticing to the military-industrial complex, so they took the bait.


What the neg ETs told Eisenhower was that in the end of 2012, there would be a massive catastrophe wiping out the vast majority of those on Earth, leaving only a few survivors. The Pentagon fell for that lie. So the Pentagon did what it does best: dig trenches. And dig it did -- thousands of miles of tunnels all over the world and entire cities underground -- hence the DUMBs all over the world. Many of them -- well over 50 major ones -- have been destroyed by the ETs, so having the damn Illoonynaughties going underground to save their asses is no longer an option.


The negative ETs did tell a truth, but it was only a part of a truth about the end of 2012, which is the catastrophic Timeline Two that would happen at the end of 2012; however, if our world really was on the Timeline Two path, the sheer level of horrible, negative events that would have transpired by now would be utterly astonishing -- way worse than the darkest, nastiest Hollywood dark-future scenarios ever portrayed on the silver screen to date. And that's before the really big events, like a pole shift and other nasty surprises.


But, thank God, thank our good-guy ETs, thank Council of Saturn and thank YOU, those who are awakening, our whole planet is strongly onto Timeline One, which is a timeline in which we not only defeat the damned Illoonynaughties, the Pompous Pope and throw off our yoke of involuntary servitude -- we will have full contact with our ET buddies, will have the long-suppressed 5,000+ free energy devices that had been attempted to be patented to be released, will have our stolen funds returned to us and will have many more wonderful events that would bring joy to our world.


Real joy. Real relief. Real hope. Real change. For everyone, everywhere.


So, seriously, folks, we are solidly on Timeline One. This is another subject for another post that I have in mind and it's pretty much already composed in my mind ... plus a bunch of other posts that are bugging me to type them to life in this and other forums.




A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what?

*snip*

What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?



As I understand it, the new system will be based on what has been agreed-upon by the 134-nation alliance -- the BRICS alliance -- and they are already determined to make it transparent, fair, balanced and other laudable aspects. These are the disenfranchised nations that have suffered massively and brutally under the brutal tyranny of the Illoonynaughty bastards, so the LAST thing that this alliance would want to create is more tyranny.



Let’s NOT repeat what we created back then on Atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.



I totally agree. Yes we have been standing on the very same precipice of utter self-destruction that we did in not only Atlantis, but also Mars with the destruction of the Martian atmosphere 75,000 years ago, plus the complete destruction of Maldek 500,000 years ago. The Asteroid Belt is the remnants of the blown-up Maldek.


So given the violent history of this solar system, our Source, our Creator, decreed that Earth was not to be destroyed. Period. And she won't be -- guaranteed.



Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.



Absolutely! I totally agree! In fact it is the sheer numbers of people who are already awake and who are in the process of awakening that has allowed our Earth to survive and to shift solidly onto the wonderful Timeline One, instead of the horrible Timeline Two.


So to those of you who have been slogging through many years of suffering the yokes of tyranny, of wars, of injustice, of planetary destruction, etc and insisted on recycling your stuff, cutting down consumption, on reading spiritual materials, on meditating, on shifting your own paradigms ... it's because of you that triggered our ETs to decisively intervene on our behalf recently and now, so now we are on the verge of the greatest events that will have yet to unfold in human history in our collective throwing off the yokes of tyranny and of commercial oppression.


THANK YOU, People! I really can't thank you enough for doing your part.

[Alie]

gripreaper ~

your post(#31) is one that is well-worth reading and researching terms for many people to study, so i recommend that those of you who have read through gripreaper's post to read it again and again. It's that good.


If i recall correctly, you stated in a previous post/thread that you wanted to leave this forum -- i'm glad that you didn't. We need you here, bro.



if you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You cannot have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.



that's true -- one cannot have it both ways, but here's why drake and his loose-knit robin hood group (the "robin hood" term is my term and it's meant in positive intent) are using the hague process to stake their claim of sovereignty by rebirthing the declaration of independence.


It's this reason: to win the crowd.


many of you have watched the "gladiator", yes?


Here's a part of the movie that i never forgot:


i, too, want to stand in front of the emperor.
As you did.
Then listen to me. Learn from me.
I wasn't the best because i killed quickly.
I was the best because the crowd loved me.
win the crowd, and you'll win your freedom.
i will win the crowd.
I will give them something they have never seen before.

from: http://movie.subtitlr.com/


movies are frequently messages that are hidden in the symbology of the movie dialogue, the imagery, the scenes, the acting, the props, etc, etc.


"emperor" = the pope


"win the crowd" = gain the support of the 134+ nation alliance (brics alliance) and the world.


..."something they have never seen before" = open contact with ets


i'm going to give my post here a bit of a country flavor to it, i hope that the readers can bear with it.


So the hague processes, both the declaration and the notification processes, are simply to gain the support of the world in terms of their perceptions of the idea of "rule of law". We need to win the crowd of the world.


Our original declaration of independence had the power to create a nation, did it not? The power of it, the idea of it, the audacity of it to create a nation of sovereign people, banded together as "we the people" standing free from the canon-law based reach of the pompous pope (emperor) was strong enough to create a brand-new nation.


Did it go through any sort of color-of-law process? No -- all it had was what makes all legitimate contracts all over the world work -- signatures. It was the signatories -- 56 of them -- who gave it life and the power to birth a new nation under god with liberty and eff'n true justice for all.


So that's part of what the hague process does -- it gives us "legitimacy" through the eyes of the people of the world, with the help of the indigenous natives of turtle island, to rebirth our declaration by standing up to the damn pompous pope and the illoonynaughties that we will no longer be their slaves and serfs.


And you know what? Canon law is bull**** -- we don't give a rat's ass about some damn "contract" that was imposed upon us way back in the seventeenth century. And why does it not apply to us? we are not signatories to it!


our signatures are the golden key to the entire world of commerce, so it's why the world of commerce has tricked many of us into false, hidden and implied contracts. Once the truth cat is out of the bag, there ain't any way that we can drag that cat back into the bag. No way.


The pompous pope has no claim over us(the people); the illoonynaughties have no claim over us; the queen of england has no claim over us -- all of those claims are bogus and no longer stand because they've stood on a foundation of lies, deceit and brutal applications of force to trick the people into voluntary subjugation/servitude to those money masters.


Force is the only thing that the money masters understand, as they've used that aspect against us, the people of the world, many, many times, so now it's time to turn the tables and apply the same thing to those bastards and win back our freedom by force that will have been legitimized by the hague process, by the un-rebuttable liens against the federal reserve and the full support of the 134-nation brics alliance.





it is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of et’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3d dimension.



yes, there was a hole in the space-time continuum at montauk, but it happened on august 13, 1943 and a nasty creature did come through and trash the base and kill most of the people who were there that day; however, it did not create a massive rip in the fabric of space-time for the whole planet -- so i wanted to clear that bit up.


And spaceships did not enter, either, because of the quarantine that is in effect around our entire planet and it's maintained by the "council of saturn" -- a council of eds (extra-dimensionals), so this quarantine severely limits the number of negative ets that would enter our planetary sphere and brutally subjugate us beyond belief ... Way worse than how the illoonynaughty bastards treated us. Way worse.


This quarantine is still in effect today. Only a few ufos of negative intent were allowed to enter our skies and mess with us. The vast majority of sighted ufos are of our own origin, human-made, that are reverse-engineered craft, plus a few home-grown ones based on tesla technology and thomas townsend brown.




this was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first bilderberg meeting and all of the g-20 nations were a part of it.



yes, this "gargantuan effort" did happen, but it was not a result of the rip of the space-time fabric from the montauk project. It was the result of the 1954 meeting of the ets, eisenhower and others at the then muroc afb, which is now edwards afb, in which the negative ets (zeta reticulans) made a deal with the corporate us government to trade off some advanced et-based technology for a resource that was precious to the negative ets ... Our dna.


The positive ets were there, too, and they made their views clear to eisenhower and others there, but the lure of the hyper-advanced et technologies was just too enticing to the military-industrial complex, so they took the bait.


What the neg ets told eisenhower was that in the end of 2012, there would be a massive catastrophe wiping out the vast majority of those on earth, leaving only a few survivors. The pentagon fell for that lie. So the pentagon did what it does best: Dig trenches. And dig it did -- thousands of miles of tunnels all over the world and entire cities underground -- hence the dumbs all over the world. Many of them -- well over 50 major ones -- have been destroyed by the ets, so having the damn illoonynaughties going underground to save their asses is no longer an option.


The negative ets did tell a truth, but it was only a part of a truth about the end of 2012, which is the catastrophic timeline two that would happen at the end of 2012; however, if our world really was on the timeline two path, the sheer level of horrible, negative events that would have transpired by now would be utterly astonishing -- way worse than the darkest, nastiest hollywood dark-future scenarios ever portrayed on the silver screen to date. And that's before the really big events, like a pole shift and other nasty surprises.


But, thank god, thank our good-guy ets, thank council of saturn and thank you, those who are awakening, our whole planet is strongly onto timeline one, which is a timeline in which we not only defeat the damned illoonynaughties, the pompous pope and throw off our yoke of involuntary servitude -- we will have full contact with our et buddies, will have the long-suppressed 5,000+ free energy devices that had been attempted to be patented to be released, will have our stolen funds returned to us and will have many more wonderful events that would bring joy to our world.


Real joy. Real relief. Real hope. Real change. For everyone, everywhere.


So, seriously, folks, we are solidly on timeline one. This is another subject for another post that i have in mind and it's pretty much already composed in my mind ... Plus a bunch of other posts that are bugging me to type them to life in this and other forums.




a new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what?

*snip*

what drake and wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?



as i understand it, the new system will be based on what has been agreed-upon by the 134-nation alliance -- the brics alliance -- and they are already determined to make it transparent, fair, balanced and other laudable aspects. These are the disenfranchised nations that have suffered massively and brutally under the brutal tyranny of the illoonynaughty bastards, so the last thing that this alliance would want to create is more tyranny.



let’s not repeat what we created back then on atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.



i totally agree. Yes we have been standing on the very same precipice of utter self-destruction that we did in not only atlantis, but also mars with the destruction of the martian atmosphere 75,000 years ago, plus the complete destruction of maldek 500,000 years ago. The asteroid belt is the remnants of the blown-up maldek.


So given the violent history of this solar system, our source, our creator, decreed that earth was not to be destroyed. Period. And she won't be -- guaranteed.



let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We know in our hearts that this is correct.



absolutely! I totally agree! In fact it is the sheer numbers of people who are already awake and who are in the process of awakening that has allowed our earth to survive and to shift solidly onto the wonderful timeline one, instead of the horrible timeline two.


So to those of you who have been slogging through many years of suffering the yokes of tyranny, of wars, of injustice, of planetary destruction, etc and insisted on recycling your stuff, cutting down consumption, on reading spiritual materials, on meditating, on shifting your own paradigms ... it's because of you that triggered our ets to decisively intervene on our behalf recently and now, so now we are on the verge of the greatest events that will have yet to unfold in human history in our collective throwing off the yokes of tyranny and of commercial oppression.


thank you, people! i really can't thank you enough for doing your part.

Brilliantly Summed Up Mozart (& Thanks to Gripreaper, too)!

[Hervé]

The caveat... so that one keeps sharpenning one's discernment tools, all edges, and refrain from shoving them into storage....

The "Orion Model" as explained by Alex Collier around the 25 minute mark:

http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne


When one applies the model to the “White Hats,” the “saviors” that are supposed to get us rid of the (human) controllers, one may realize that these “White Hats” may indeed be of a darker black hue than the blackest of “Black Hats.”

Because… what’s the “solution” to the problem of these “bad” ETs and their illuminati consorts?

… get into agreement with the “good” ETs, sign the papers on the dotted line… deal!

Now Earth can be "legally" monitored and controlled beyond any recourse except another of these wars in the sky of Ancient India fame.

Hence, how does one recognizes an actual “good” ET? I have no answer to that since, for all these bezillions of years where, the most intelligent, perceptive, psychic, clairvoyant, wizard, sorcerer and witch beings have been fooled over and over, again and again without ever managing to thwart the scheme.


The only certainty (?) in either the white or black hats case is that the "controllers" are out... under all apparency....

[gripreaper]

Great post Mozart. If we are going to use the “Drake” and his notices and declarations of Sovereignty, which he sent to The Hague, as the catalyst for awakening the masses and winning the crowd, then we have some work to do. The idea of sovereignty has just recently hit the alternative news community, and I’m not surprised that it came through Divine Cosmos, although I won’t digress into that at this time. That means that maybe 1 to 2 million people are following along while close to 7 billion people are stuck in the matrix and took the blue pill. (To use another metaphor).

So, we can agree that many do not understand the idea of extricating themselves from the matrix and how to become sovereign, and what it takes. We can also agree that changes don’t require the physical manifestation first and then the energy will come, but a small handful of souls can get the vibrations moving in the source field and the 100th monkey will show up. So, it’s not that big of a task considering how easily things can now go “viral” on the internet these days.

So, how do you “win the crowd” to use the metaphor from “The Gladiator”? (Loved that movie by the way). First we must recognize that the existing paradigm is a total lie. Yup, the whole enchilada my friends. Yup, that too. Religions destroy spirituality, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, lawyers destroy justice, corporations destroy individuality, the media destroys information, militaries destroy lives, doctors destroy health, money destroys the earth, etc. The entire lie is designed to extract your life force and feed it to the vampires at the top of the power pyramid. The existing paradigm is divisive, polarized, competitive, aggressive, and completely broken.

So, shall we reset the existing paradigm back to the early 1700’s when freedom reigned and self determination and liberty had a foothold in the new world of America, and through adjudication let’s mete out justice to all the bad guys and put the good guys in charge? Let’s make a system of weights and measures a “fair” system and mete out resources based on what is fair and equitable, and let’s take care of those who cannot do for themselves? Let’s restructure the hierarchical power pyramid? Where have we heard this before?

So, the current “memes” that are so imbedded within the consciousness of mankind need to be removed from the “sacred cow” status they hold in our society, all of the structures and institutions which came along with the age of the “rule of law” and build new memes. Let’s start by destroying many of the current memes.

http://disinfobahn.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/pudxgsur_original.jpg

religions are different: Nope. Islam, Judaism and Christianity were all created from the same mythologies at about the same time, so that these different factions could be pitted against each other and foster wars and divisiveness. The idea that we are damaged goods and are therefore incapable to rise to our own inner consciousness, and therefore need an outside source to direct our destiny, has been fostered within all of these religions.

Fictions, both corporate and personal: In commerce, all things are fictitious. Corporations are fictions, and so are we as the corporate entity which was created from our birth certificates. We as real live individuals do not, and cannot operate in commerce.

Saviors: This is one of the most embedded memes in our consciousness, that we need something from outside ourselves to assist us in changing the reality within which we live. Everything we see, everything which exists, is there because we put it there. Reality emanates from within and manifest without. There is no “out there” except that which is created from within. So, to look outside for anything is fallacious and does not exist.

Value, assets and ownership: there is only what the earth herself gives to all sentient beings, and to lay claim to it as an asset and to assume ownership is also fallacious. The entire system of weights and measures, and chopping up the planet into little pieces and giving title to those pieces to corporate fictions does not create abundance, but slavery.

Money as value: there is no money. There is debt, based on “instruments” which are just promises to pay. The promise to pay is predicated on the fallacy that sometime in the future there will be a reciprocating energetic exchange from the elite for all that you contribute. Yet, the truth is, we gave them everything, our lives, our labor and any claim to this earth through acquiescence and agreement to the adhesion contracts we so freely sign. We actually like being slaves.

Psychopaths have the potential to be empathic: Not so. There is no way to negotiate with psychopaths because they have no ability to feel from their heart center, and actually everything to the psychopath is just an extension of the self and their own satiation of their own hedonistic desires.

Nations and borders are real: There are no lines in the dirt as far as the elite are concerned. They have no national affiliations, no borders, or any such notions of liberty, freedom, rights, justice, adjudication, right or wrong, or any of the notions which we place so much emphasis on. Those constructs are just for us and our slavery.

Divide and conquer: this is the oldest and most entrenched meme we need to face. Duality in itself and the polarization of these two opposites is what keeps us trapped in this meme. If we realize this game, the energy dissipates from this perturbation, and they lose their power.

These are just a few. Feel free to add your own. We are the sheep at the bottom of the hierarchical power pyramid. Leave the power meme and it collapses under its own weight , and I suggest we do not build another power pyramid, no matter how benevolent those we would choose to place at the top might be.

[crosby]

gripreaper, this is one of the most powerful posts that i have seen. it is going to be a useful tool for me as i am pushing the 'wake up' theme to more and more people. the construct puts it all together nicely - and, succinctly. some of the sleepers are resentful of somebody shaking and trying to wake them from their slumber. this is going to help! thanks to everyone for their contributions here. there is so much information throughout this thread and one or two others. i will use it wisely, and push the envelope to make these peeps wake up.
warmest regards, corson

[jcocks]

God I so hope the Drake pulls through and these arrests occur. Then at least we know the process has started, and of course it will be painful..... But at least then we'll be able to heal without all those blood-sucking leaches sucking humanity's energy...

We deserve an opportunity to thrive.

[9eagle9]

When your domestic fire and smoke detectors quit working, then you will know that to be true.

Check them daily.

How are the sheep going to know something like that?

Because someone 'told' them so.

AFAIK , those offers from the Benevolent Groups of ET/EDs are STILL open and on the tables, but the governments are still refusing to cooperate and give up the Nukes, so the ETs have pretty much decided one way or another they pretty much are just going to remove all Nuclear Tech on the entire planet whether its' done willingly with the cooperation of the world governments or not. If they cooperate, they get rewarded but still have to agree to disclosure and sharing of the tech etc with the people (which they will be forced to share if they don't "play nice")...if not, the good ET/EDs pretty much say "screw you world governments." continue to remove and prevent nuclear tech from being used destructively , clean up what is already here and give the fancy things to the people, disclose themselves and help the people as is meant to happen and is happening anyway.

[9eagle9]

They don't want the bad guys controlling them anymore.

They want the 'good' guys controlling them. The 'good' guys knows what is 'good' for them. Just like the bad guys knows what was good for us.

It is a beautiful plan, its as brilliant as the last plan. It IS the same plan, just dusted off and made light.

Creation of a new God. New Boss same as the old Boss.

Their peace will come to them in the scripts, hypnosis and chemicals, they'll be able to purchase it over the counter.

Let them have it.



I see a deeper destabilization happening as some try to remove the "power system / structure" and that my friends is called a vacuum! Nature abhors those and people react poorly to massive changes in their happy paradigm no matter how miserable they are in general, they don't want to change things that much! Thus we have chaos and crisis ensue. Be very careful of lollipop dreams and gum-sickle fantasies.

I smell a rat, and I smell eager minds in nefarious places eagerly awaiting the coming catastrophe of the little people attempting to take control. Of course I could be completely wrong and Lord Axelbaum of the Galactic Brotherhood of love, light and tea on Sundays is going to keep everything working smoothly and not let any of the big bad boogie men in the millenia old cabal do anything nasty to us.

We are going into a time of great turmoil in order to drive us to the edge and begging for peace at which time we will be offered the very thing the elites have had planned for us for hundreds of years, yet only put the finishing touches on this past century. They have had our new zoo waiting and we will happily munch away on the portions they provide while we entertain them endlessly with our antics and believe we are free. It's a beautiful plan in a very sick and twisted way.

[Chester]

gripreaper, this is one of the most powerful posts that i have seen. it is going to be a useful tool for me as i am pushing the 'wake up' theme to more and more people. the construct puts it all together nicely - and, succinctly. some of the sleepers are resentful of somebody shaking and trying to wake them from their slumber. this is going to help! thanks to everyone for their contributions here. there is so much information throughout this thread and one or two others. i will use it wisely, and push the envelope to make these peeps wake up.
warmest regards, corson

This post #96 by Gripreaper was truly outstanding - the Thanks button wasn't enough and the way Corson put it had to be quoted.

[Alie]

=========

Who is the council of 13 --- anyone know? Is it agreed that the Queen sits at the very top? I didn't realize that either.


Great post Mozart. If we are going to use the “Drake” and his notices and declarations of Sovereignty, which he sent to The Hague, as the catalyst for awakening the masses and winning the crowd, then we have some work to do. The idea of sovereignty has just recently hit the alternative news community, and I’m not surprised that it came through Divine Cosmos, although I won’t digress into that at this time. That means that maybe 1 to 2 million people are following along while close to 7 billion people are stuck in the matrix and took the blue pill. (To use another metaphor).

So, we can agree that many do not understand the idea of extricating themselves from the matrix and how to become sovereign, and what it takes. We can also agree that changes don’t require the physical manifestation first and then the energy will come, but a small handful of souls can get the vibrations moving in the source field and the 100th monkey will show up. So, it’s not that big of a task considering how easily things can now go “viral” on the internet these days.

So, how do you “win the crowd” to use the metaphor from “The Gladiator”? (Loved that movie by the way). First we must recognize that the existing paradigm is a total lie. Yup, the whole enchilada my friends. Yup, that too. Religions destroy spirituality, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, lawyers destroy justice, corporations destroy individuality, the media destroys information, militaries destroy lives, doctors destroy health, money destroys the earth, etc. The entire lie is designed to extract your life force and feed it to the vampires at the top of the power pyramid. The existing paradigm is divisive, polarized, competitive, aggressive, and completely broken.

So, shall we reset the existing paradigm back to the early 1700’s when freedom reigned and self determination and liberty had a foothold in the new world of America, and through adjudication let’s mete out justice to all the bad guys and put the good guys in charge? Let’s make a system of weights and measures a “fair” system and mete out resources based on what is fair and equitable, and let’s take care of those who cannot do for themselves? Let’s restructure the hierarchical power pyramid? Where have we heard this before?

So, the current “memes” that are so imbedded within the consciousness of mankind need to be removed from the “sacred cow” status they hold in our society, all of the structures and institutions which came along with the age of the “rule of law” and build new memes. Let’s start by destroying many of the current memes.

http://disinfobahn.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/pudxgsur_original.jpg

religions are different: Nope. Islam, Judaism and Christianity were all created from the same mythologies at about the same time, so that these different factions could be pitted against each other and foster wars and divisiveness. The idea that we are damaged goods and are therefore incapable to rise to our own inner consciousness, and therefore need an outside source to direct our destiny, has been fostered within all of these religions.

Fictions, both corporate and personal: In commerce, all things are fictitious. Corporations are fictions, and so are we as the corporate entity which was created from our birth certificates. We as real live individuals do not, and cannot operate in commerce.

Saviors: This is one of the most embedded memes in our consciousness, that we need something from outside ourselves to assist us in changing the reality within which we live. Everything we see, everything which exists, is there because we put it there. Reality emanates from within and manifest without. There is no “out there” except that which is created from within. So, to look outside for anything is fallacious and does not exist.

Value, assets and ownership: there is only what the earth herself gives to all sentient beings, and to lay claim to it as an asset and to assume ownership is also fallacious. The entire system of weights and measures, and chopping up the planet into little pieces and giving title to those pieces to corporate fictions does not create abundance, but slavery.

Money as value: there is no money. There is debt, based on “instruments” which are just promises to pay. The promise to pay is predicated on the fallacy that sometime in the future there will be a reciprocating energetic exchange from the elite for all that you contribute. Yet, the truth is, we gave them everything, our lives, our labor and any claim to this earth through acquiescence and agreement to the adhesion contracts we so freely sign. We actually like being slaves.

Psychopaths have the potential to be empathic: Not so. There is no way to negotiate with psychopaths because they have no ability to feel from their heart center, and actually everything to the psychopath is just an extension of the self and their own satiation of their own hedonistic desires.

Nations and borders are real: There are no lines in the dirt as far as the elite are concerned. They have no national affiliations, no borders, or any such notions of liberty, freedom, rights, justice, adjudication, right or wrong, or any of the notions which we place so much emphasis on. Those constructs are just for us and our slavery.

Divide and conquer: this is the oldest and most entrenched meme we need to face. Duality in itself and the polarization of these two opposites is what keeps us trapped in this meme. If we realize this game, the energy dissipates from this perturbation, and they lose their power.

These are just a few. Feel free to add your own. We are the sheep at the bottom of the hierarchical power pyramid. Leave the power meme and it collapses under its own weight , and I suggest we do not build another power pyramid, no matter how benevolent those we would choose to place at the top might be.

[OnyxKnight]

From what I was able to find, these claims have their place from David Wilcock's website, godlikeproductions, and many other blogs and wordpress accounts who have copied this from him. I don't see how this has anything to do with the mass arrests. In fact, what little I was able to find, was that this 'cease and desist' order being filed BY few federal reserve banks, AGAINST minor banks, for some breaches in contracts/agreements. Nothing of the like David Wilcock is saying. In fact, he didn't even provide one ounce of reference of this, other than his "sources", only one bearing an official name/nickname "Drake". Another shady character in my opinion.

I think many of you take things like this way too easy and way too literal. Slow down, try and find something to confirm this, other than your favorite conspiracy guru, then form an opinion. What's sad is that many of you instead of doing just that, are celebrating.

[OnyxKnight]

Great post Mozart. If we are going to use the “Drake” and his notices and declarations of Sovereignty, which he sent to The Hague, as the catalyst for awakening the masses and winning the crowd, then we have some work to do.

Hahaha, you bet!

The Hague? Really?


Drake just lost any chance of gaining credibility with me.



The Hague court bends its international law according to varied interest groups. It closes its eyes on human rights issue when it sees fit, or is being demanded, by interest groups.



My country won the court case battle with Greece over their blockade for the NATO integration, for breaching a signed treaty, but the they have no power to enforce that ruling over others - simply as!

The EU and NATO said 'no', regardless of the decision of the 'International Court of Justice'


What a disgrace to carry that name I say ...

[GoodETxSG]

Sorry to repeat myself,
I understand people becoming impatient for these arrests to occur and wanting the changes to happen right now. I also understand those that are starting to doubt it will happen with all of the collective disappointments we have had. I am ready to have this nasty chapter behind us as well.

This is not going to be just a normal “regime change” that we have gotten used to seeing in third world countries on a regular basis. This is a complete revamping of an entire civilization and its sociology. A transformation like this has never been recorded in history to give us a template to follow. Try to remember that if it’s not done correctly it will cause even more damage to Humanity, yes it is possible.

It is going to be a very complex process to undo all of the financial, spiritual and mental torture and slavery. Please do not turn on the messengers as they cannot pressure the powers to act any quicker. They most likely do not even have all of the facts straight yet, they are at the mercy of the Gate Keepers of the information and the situation is fluid.

This will all unfold when all of the Chess pieces are in place. Instead of complaining that it is not occurring on your personal time frame I would concentrate on preparing for the transition. I can guarantee you are NOT as prepared as you think you are... None of us are.

[aranuk]

Great advice Corey.

Stan

[foreverfan]

Sorry to repeat myself,
I understand people becoming impatient for these arrests to occur and wanting the changes to happen right now. I also understand those that are starting to doubt it will happen with all of the collective disappointments we have had. I am ready to have this nasty chapter behind us as well.

This is not going to be just a normal “regime change” that we have gotten used to seeing in third world countries on a regular basis. This is a complete revamping of an entire civilization and its sociology. A transformation like this has never been recorded in history to give us a template to follow. Try to remember that if it’s not done correctly it will cause even more damage to Humanity, yes it is possible.

It is going to be a very complex process to undo all of the financial, spiritual and mental torture and slavery. Please do not turn on the messengers as they cannot pressure the powers to act any quicker. They most likely do not even have all of the facts straight yet, they are at the mercy of the Gate Keepers of the information and the situation is fluid.

This will all unfold when all of the Chess pieces are in place. Instead of complaining that it is not occurring on your personal time frame I would concentrate on preparing for the transition. I can guarantee you are NOT as prepared as you think you are... None of us are.

So should I just pull the trigger now? Well, I'm not going to do it.

On a serious note... this thread has been outstanding and certainly helped me understand a lot of things. Sorry I only have the time to read and then post a few light hearted jokes along the way.

I would like to personally like to thank all the contributors to the awakening.

I'm hoping/praying for the 100th monkey effect, but come on... really?... really? I guess the real wild card is the Galactic Federation of Light. Nothing like our space brothers coming to the rescue as Bob Dean and Clifford Stone promotes. /sarcasm

[DreamsInDigital]

Well, not the Galactic Federation of Light, not saying this to start anything. But, that is nothing more than an entity from that AI Ship being ran by Regressive Reptoids, that currently sits in the Sirius B System.

It's the real ET/ED's that play the true wild card. The Real United Federation, Andromedan Council, Liberation Forces (as a collective term for all the Good ET/EDs that are here to help), that are here to help liberate the planet. Anyway, not going to debate it. Just felt the need to clarify it.

[OnyxKnight]

Please do not turn on the messengers as they cannot pressure the powers to act any quicker.

Why not? If they lie to me, I have every right to turn on them. And I did make a post where I outlined that this gibberish comes out of the mouth of only David Wilcock, with nothing being substantiated.

For example, this last one - the topic at hand - is nothing like he says it to be. why should I trust anything he says next or has said in the past?

[foreverfan]

Well, not the Galactic Federation of Light, not saying this to start anything. But, that is nothing more than an entity from that AI Ship being ran by Regressive Reptoids, that currently sits in the Sirius B System.

It's the real ET/ED's that play the true wild card. The Real United Federation, Andromedan Council, Liberation Forces (as a collective term for all the Good ET/EDs that are here to help), that are here to help liberate the planet. Anyway, not going to debate it. Just felt the need to clarify it.

Thanks. I feel all warm and fuzzy now.

[OnyxKnight]

AI Ship being ran by Regressive Reptoids, that currently sits in the Sirius B System.

Not true either, my dear.

Oh my .... its starting to take on a really bad track record this thing ...:(

[DreamsInDigital]

That was the last place I was aware of it being located at, though it might have moved from there, but seriously Onyx. PM me, if you've got an issue instead of childishly attacking me on the open forum.

[gripreaper]

gripreaper, this is one of the most powerful posts that i have seen. it is going to be a useful tool for me as i am pushing the 'wake up' theme to more and more people. the construct puts it all together nicely - and, succinctly. some of the sleepers are resentful of somebody shaking and trying to wake them from their slumber. this is going to help! thanks to everyone for their contributions here. there is so much information throughout this thread and one or two others. i will use it wisely, and push the envelope to make these peeps wake up.
warmest regards, corson

This post #96 by Gripreaper was truly outstanding - the Thanks button wasn't enough and the way Corson put it had to be quoted.

Thanks corson and justoneman. I really do believe we need a whole new paradigm and that the existing structure and the "memes' which support it need to be axed. Of course, how the new paradigm might look is difficult to see from here, since, as Einstein once said "A problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it". I'm thinking it will develop as we become more conscious and we don't need to have a full plan or picture from where we stand now.

Suffice it to say, we each need to take our money out of the Wall Street banks, buy and grow locally, and decentralize as much as we can, and get more involved locally. The pyramid wont collapse until we stop supporting it.

[GoodETxSG]

Please do not turn on the messengers as they cannot pressure the powers to act any quicker.

Why not? If they lie to me, I have every right to turn on them. And I did make a post where I outlined that this gibberish comes out of the mouth of only David Wilcock, with nothing being substantiated.

For example, this last one - the topic at hand - is nothing like he says it to be. why should I trust anything he says next or has said in the past?

Well, I would not presume to infringe on your free will,
I encourage you to stand firm to YOUR TRUTH/Reality Bubble and open your mind and use Discernment of our shared truth and reality (What the Hell, just in case right?). There is a reason that nothing has been substantiated and I think will not (It would be the equivalent of all the bricks in a building turning to dust at the same moment) ... because it is impossible for everything to go down as it is being reported. I cannot vouch for any of them or their sources on whether they are or are not adding things or removing things here and there for affect and "artistic license".

That is the nature of the beast with compartmentalized information. The way I have seen the game work is to throw out the same info through a few sources be it True or False, watch for a move from the adversary then compensate and plan your next move. No Plan survives the battlefield... and certainly NO PLAN from the 70's has survived this evolving battlefield as technology, financial and legal framework has changed so much since then.

I would challenge the skeptics to stay that way, it gives us balance but be open minded. I would advise those that see the reports from these sources as prophesy or are waiting for the sound of the second shoe to drop by clicking “Refresh” on their Internet Browser every few minutes to sit back and think things through a little more objectively. This issue is beginning to border hysteria on both sides and this is BEFORE any of THE arrests have been made public (Yes you read that correctly). The people watching for signs of panic ARE monitoring these sites and posts as a precaution to judge whether to “Hold Off” or tone things down for a bit or to proceed with the very fluid plans that change at least daily as everything unfolds.

These things ARE coming down the road and can not be stopped as I have verified via my sources (Which I didn’t want to share and will NOT discuss) but like I said in my post that you responded to this is NOT an issue that is going to be handled quietly during a 72 hour black out (As it was relayed to me by a highly placed strategist in this “Hypothetical” scenario).... thus I repeat this part of my post and ask both sides to read it with fresh eyes... and repeat NO ONE can tell you how this is going to “Go Down”… there are way too many variables and players involved and they are not going to endanger the integrity of the mission to provide a few skeptics Corroborating evidence.
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I understand people becoming impatient for these arrests to occur and wanting the changes to happen right now. I also understand those that are starting to doubt it will happen with all of the collective disappointments we have had. I am ready to have this nasty chapter behind us as well.

This is not going to be just a normal “regime change” that we have gotten used to seeing in third world countries on a regular basis. This is a complete revamping of an entire civilization and its sociology. A transformation like this has never been recorded in history to give us a template to follow. Try to remember that if it’s not done correctly it will cause even more damage to Humanity, yes it is possible.

It is going to be a very complex process to undo all of the financial, spiritual and mental torture and slavery. Please do not turn on the messengers as they cannot pressure the powers to act any quicker. They most likely do not even have all of the facts straight yet, they are at the mercy of the Gate Keepers of the information and the situation is fluid.

This will all unfold when all of the Chess pieces are in place. Instead of complaining that it is not occurring on your personal time frame I would concentrate on preparing for the transition. I can guarantee you are NOT as prepared as you think you are... None of us are.

[Lost N Found]

gripreaper, this is one of the most powerful posts that i have seen. it is going to be a useful tool for me as i am pushing the 'wake up' theme to more and more people. the construct puts it all together nicely - and, succinctly. some of the sleepers are resentful of somebody shaking and trying to wake them from their slumber. this is going to help! thanks to everyone for their contributions here. there is so much information throughout this thread and one or two others. i will use it wisely, and push the envelope to make these peeps wake up.
warmest regards, corson

This post #96 by Gripreaper was truly outstanding - the Thanks button wasn't enough and the way Corson put it had to be quoted.

Thanks corson and justoneman. I really do believe we need a whole new paradigm and that the existing structure and the "memes' which support it need to be axed. Of course, how the new paradigm might look is difficult to see from here, since, as Einstein once said "A problem cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness which created it". I'm thinking it will develop as we become more conscious and we don't need to have a full plan or picture from where we stand now.

Suffice it to say, we each need to take our money out of the Wall Street banks, buy and grow locally, and decentralize as much as we can, and get more involved locally. The pyramid wont collapse until we stop supporting it.

Oh My! I really do think you have the right idea gripreaper, we do need a whole new paradigm. I see this entire thing as being black and white, good and evil, dem and repub, you name it, it is all only two things going on in everything. When do you suppose that we as humans will break out of this paradigm? I also see that we are reacting like chickens in the barnyard when the farmer throws the seeds for food. First he throws the seeds one way and all the chickens run as one wave that way, then he throws the seeds another way and all the chickens as a wave run that way. Is this what we are doing today?

David Wilcock comes on with some info of hope and we all chase that seed, Drake comes on with some hope and we all chase that seed, Tim Turner comes on with a seed of hope and that seed gets chased. You get the point folks. I am surely no different because I have been in those different waves of hope for along time. I do want to see a higher consciousness come and soon. But we all have to stop and think with some sort of higher consciousness about all that is transpiring. Drake is saying what he does but that does not necissarily make it the stone set in concrete. Drake himself has explained that when he was in Veitnam he would shake the bush to see what ran out. So maybe that is what he is doing by making all of this Mass arrest and stuff go viral

Thanks to all, let the fear dissolve and lets keep shaking the bush.


Love transcends all

[A Simple Human]

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort.

I was trying to wake my wife up and got the stuffing slapped out of me. What's up with that?

Well that depends, foreverfan. Were you trying to wake her up with Alternative Info, or a stiffy to her backside?! ;)

[A Simple Human]

That's true -- one cannot have it both ways, but here's why Drake and his loose-knit Robin Hood group (the "Robin Hood" term is my term and it's meant in positive intent) are using the Hague process to stake their claim of sovereignty by rebirthing the Declaration of Independence.

It's this reason: To Win the Crowd.

*Snip*




So, the current “memes” that are so imbedded within the consciousness of mankind need to be removed from the “sacred cow” status they hold in our society, all of the structures and institutions which came along with the age of the “rule of law” and build new memes. Let’s start by destroying many of the current memes.

*Snip*


@ Mozart and gripreaper,

Thank you both for providing such quality, informative posts to this thread.

It's greatly appreciated,

A.S.H.

[gripreaper]

That's true -- one cannot have it both ways, but here's why Drake and his loose-knit Robin Hood group (the "Robin Hood" term is my term and it's meant in positive intent) are using the Hague process to stake their claim of sovereignty by rebirthing the Declaration of Independence.

It's this reason: To Win the Crowd.

*Snip*




So, the current “memes” that are so imbedded within the consciousness of mankind need to be removed from the “sacred cow” status they hold in our society, all of the structures and institutions which came along with the age of the “rule of law” and build new memes. Let’s start by destroying many of the current memes.

*Snip*


@ Mozart and gripreaper,

Thank you both for providing such quality, informative posts to this thread.

It's greatly appreciated,

A.S.H.

you too A.S.H. Your e-mail you put together to send to those who are just awakening is very powerful and thoughtful.

[Debra]

A:S.H
Gripreaper
Mozart
Energy Gardner

---and to other commentators on here who have supplemented some of these aforementioned posters. You know who you are.

Thank you enormously for a very educational read.

I have also watched those videos by Rink, posted by Gripreaper, twice now in the las 24 hours. A wonderful resource-

Best wishes,
Zebra

[foreverfan]

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort.

I was trying to wake my wife up and got the stuffing slapped out of me. What's up with that?

Well that depends, foreverfan. Were you trying to wake her up with Alternative Info, or a stiffy to her backside?! ;)

http://mid4.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/cat_stiffy.JPG

[Mozart]

:humble:


@ Mozart and gripreaper,

Thank you both for providing such quality, informative posts to this thread.

It's greatly appreciated,

A.S.H.


Thanks, buddy, ASH, and to be mentioned in the same sentence with gripreaper is an honor, but not a Title of Nobility!


:humble:

[christian]

I encourage everyone to wake up the rest of humanity; therefore, I not only grant you permission to use my email, but I also commend your effort.

I was trying to wake my wife up and got the stuffing slapped out of me. What's up with that?

It's the same old question, why do people refuse to look at the evidence? Fear, I guess. Fear of so many things, of all the implications that come with looking at alternative information. So be gentle and help her in a way that is most appropriate for her personally to live a fulfilled life.

[KosmicKat]

It has taken millennia to get to this point. So should we simply expect everything to change in a day? It will most likely take decades, and several generations, before we can completely do away with government, money, etc…

Perhaps it’s a good idea to get the bastards out of power first, so that people around the world can have clean water to drink, food to eat, clothes to wear, and shelter to live in before we focus on spiritual growth. Providing these necessities, will actually allow for spiritual growth, but it’s going to be a process that takes time.

“Creator Gods” may very well be our destination, but right now it’s about the journey.

My understanding is that there was a previous attempt to rush progress, contrary to a proven plan which has succeeded on countless worlds. If we can stop thinking of ourselves as racing against time, we might begin to remove some of the obstacles.

[highlyter]

Are we getting in the way or paving the way? Opinions are like you know what... every one has one!

The truth IS already in existence. Do we choose to harmoniously bring it into the forefront? Just looking at the dynamics of comments, it's very easy to see ego's doing a lot of talking! And aren't we all better off just strapping in for the RIDE without expectations or finger pointing? So, it is known, we all have perceptions and share them differently...some lengthy & some just simple and profound.

An Open Heart Connection, Extra TP :wave:, Bottles of Water, Extra Diapers, Canned food, Hurricane lamps aren't too troublesome to have extra on hand! The best part of stocking a few things up is nothing extra will go to waste if the chaos is avoided as the awakened ones and ET/ED helpers envision.

Love the ability to Love!

[Arrowwind]

'God Bless You' - Its just what everyone in this world needs...

To sit back and let the likes of David Wilcock & Drake save the world for us...:faint:

Don't you worry my little 'Buttercups' we have it all under control and we are here to save you (ALL) from the 'Big Bad Wolf'...:pound:

Jack, Shoot the messenger delivering good news? What's wrong, not enough fear here?:confused:

The first legal step to oust these "Big Bad Wolves" doesn't mean in any way that "we (they) have it all under control," but it does indicate that we are receiving help from ET/ED and as important, awakened terrans, so we can contemplate the tremendous amount of work ahead for us. I write "work," but there is nothing I would rather do; I have been impatiently awaiting this point in Earth's history, but realize the job may become more difficult if brilliant people like you (and I mean that sincerely) criticize great news when it is realized as "harmful" because it will compel people to "sit back and let others save us."

Jack, let's work together (we all know you will do that) to insure the outcome meets it best potential. Let me know if you would like to join the "Afters" program.

'God Knows' I want this 'STORY' to be 'True'...:yes4:

But there really should be at least some sort of 'Balance & Discernment' in this reporting...:yes4:

Ask yourself this...

Why would 'David Wilcock' say this...


Drake was asked by the "good guys" in the Pentagon to provide a public voice for a plan that, up until then, had almost entirely been disclosed by Benjamin Fulford, since 2007, and myself since November 2011 -- when I was personally briefed on it.

Under the 'Heading' - "THE PLAN REQUIRES THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE" (2nd Paragraph)

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens


Why would Drake &/or the Pentagon..? Ask David Wilcock of all people, who I might add is not a 'Journalist' in any way shape or form to be the 'Internet's Representitive' spokesman for such an important 'Event'...?

Then for Drake himself to "CONTRADICT" David Wilcock the other night on Blog Talk Radio @ approx. 1.34.50 mins and Discredit Ben Fulford in such a way..?

:director:...http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/3/005/show_3005869.mp3


Drake Ouote: "I'm not going to confirm anything that Ben Fulford says, because he is not in the (Inner-Loop) at this point..!"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43668-Drake-Q-A-2-hours...Must-Listen--&p=466205#post466205


Now would you please http://dpi.state.wi.us/images/tepdl/stop.gif being so 'Naive' and start using your own 'Discernment'..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you people, never cease to amaze me...:faint:

Rgs,

Jack

I fully agree with you Jack.
Its no wonder we are in the shape we are currently in when people believe such chatter.

Has anyone any solid evidence to present... or are angles and aliens doing it all undercover, beyond our sight, and certainly beyond current price elevations at the supermarket.

Get real people please. Everything that wilcoxs says is shrouded in secrecy, mystery, missing persons, stories they are not permitted to fully tell, timelines that dont pan out, etc etc,,, and all totally without evidence.

[KiwiElf]

Have you read Sabrina's post Arrowwind? ALL of it? Pretty solid evidence me thinks :peace:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World

[wynderer]

in another thread i posted that i'd rather see the satanic pedophile network brought down

& honestly, this all seems like a dog & pony show -- the courts where they'll be tried are still full of their buddies -- i haven't read about a mass exodus from the judicial systems

also -- we are soon to go thru some major Earth changes -- other issues seem rather small, to me, w/that looming closer & closer

[Alie]

in another thread i posted that i'd rather see the satanic pedophile network brought down

& honestly, this all seems like a dog & pony show -- the courts where they'll be tried are still full of their buddies -- i haven't read about a mass exodus from the judicial systems

also -- we are soon to go thru some major Earth changes -- other issues seem rather small, to me, w/that looming closer & closer

I would like to figure out a way to highlight this horror. Just don't know an effective angle yet. Even though it might SEEM like it's easy ... we definitely know it's not.

[wynderer]

most don't want to look at it -- that's why it goes on

as Karla Turner said, This is a massive crime against humanity, & by our silence, we are complicit



in another thread i posted that i'd rather see the satanic pedophile network brought down

& honestly, this all seems like a dog & pony show -- the courts where they'll be tried are still full of their buddies -- i haven't read about a mass exodus from the judicial systems

also -- we are soon to go thru some major Earth changes -- other issues seem rather small, to me, w/that looming closer & closer

I would like to figure out a way to highlight this horror. Just don't know an effective angle yet. Even though it might SEEM like it's easy ... we definitely know it's not.