Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Avocadess]

Drake says "we won" and the "cavalry is coming." It is not expected that civilians or civilian militia will be needed, but if they are they will be contacted.

Drake is obviously expecting a HUGE celebration of freedom for the Fourth of July.

"It will be hitting the fan very shortly," he said. He said not just military but high-level people sent this message, saying we can sit back and "watch the fireworks."

"HOPEFULLY these people will peacefully surrender; hopefully there will be no bloodshed," Drake said, adding that violence will happen only if made necessary.

"Most of what you have seen have been a combination of different things [that cannot be] easily seen....Do you know anybody who is a globalist?....There are a lot of globalist companies [such as] JPMorgan....The globalist army that is supposedly being formed by the G20 ain't gonna happen....Why?....Financial," said Drake.

Then he talked about the big investors that did some big investing that caused them to make a lot of money during 9/11.

Drake talked about Secret Service and others who were, he said, falsely accused. [Drake still seems to be ultra-distrustful of Obama.] "The Rockefellers....are part and party guilty of treason," and then he also included "Bush and family" and said the military has decided the same thing.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

oh boy....this Drake show is sounding like RUSA all over again....This is exactly what Tim Turner said to us....."you're going to have the best 4th of July ever"........god, this is like re-living that experience all over again....such bad memories.

I hope for those who believe in Drake that you're not getting your chains jerked, cause it's an awful feeling when the 4th arrives, nothing has happened as promised and there's no calvary arriving to save you. As mentioned before, I just can't go there again. I hope those who believe won't have the same disappointing experience myself and others did when the supposed similar events that Drake is touting don't take place.

PS I'm not trying to be mean and I have no malice towards those who believe.

Don't worry. The explanation for why it did not happen has already been prepared.

[Avocadess]

Notes on this evening's show with DRAKE continued:

Drake has been convinced it really is going to happen and is going to happen very soon, and that it will hit the mainstream news.

"When they say sit back and enjoy the fireworks," Drake things they (the military) really mean business.

"The foreign troops are no match to anything our military has got....The United Nations can go spit," said Drake.

[we-R-one]

Ya, well I want to laugh Whiskey Mystic, but it really isn't funny anymore, thanks for your humor anyways.

[Avocadess]

DRAKE continued:

[leaving a bit out here...] Drake is pretty excited about the fireworks and saying, "This is going to happen a whole lot sooner than you think it is." He said it has been extremely painful for him how long this has taken. "This time I ain't sayin' two weeks; I'm sayin' very soon. One of the things I found out is that there are opposing forces....over the past week" the capability of certain opposing forces have been limited (by being met and told to land). He seems to be speaking mostly of foreign troops here -- mostly pirates (not Latino).

[...leaving out the part here where Drake is talking about people's medications being stolen....]

Drake is about to invite in Lady Dragon with some "good news." Drake first talks about gambling houses and how each gambling house has a report as to what the odds are supposed to be for the customer to win. "Anybody who is not too bright will think they have a real good chance to win." [Don't ask me why he is talking about this, but I suppose it is because Lady Dragon is involved in gambling.] "An honest house is above-board and reports its winnings." And right now "most gambling houses are not honest."

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Why is he explaining casino odds? He is all over the place like a pachinko ball.

[Ishtar]

Why is he explaining casino odds? He is all over the place like a pachinko ball.

Agreed. He's rambling like an old man with a captive audience but who doesn't really have anything to say.

[Avocadess]

Whiskey_Mystic: It's because Lady Dragon is involved in the gambling world (and he knows many have criticized her for this, especially the fundamentalist religious people, etc.).

Drake is wanting to point out that unlike many involved in the gambling business, Lady Dragon is "totally above-board."

Lady Dragon talked about 104 arrests which saved 79 children in 57 cities involving local and federal officers, children from 13-17 years of age. One young girl interviewed was forced into prostitution at the age of 11. "The FBI did something really good here."

Drake threw in his {violent type] talk about people who do this to kids.

Lady Dragon said this morning the bill Ron Paul has been working on a long, long time was passed. (I did not catch what bill that was. Did anyone else?!) She said it was passed UNANIMOUSLY -- whereas in the past he was always met with adversity.

Drake said that this happened because those politicians "see the handwriting on the wall." He said that now people are beginning to understand that the "light of day is beginning to dawn."

"Anybody who doubts how much darkness a small amount of light can chase away," Drake recommends that you put out all your lights tonight and then light a small candle or whatnot. He applauds Ron Paul for his tenacity. Speaking of Ron Paul, Drake said, "He's not exactly squeaky clean but he's a lot better than [missed the rest of that sentence]."

[we-R-one]

Avocadess, even though I can't believe in this, I really appreciate all your efforts you put in to help other forum members.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I guess the whole "sit on down and listen to papa's grand wisdom" thing doesn't work well for me. But that's not important. If what Lady Dragon says is true, that's certainly good news.

[crosby]

Avocadess, i think she is referring to the federal audit that rp has been trying to get through.
warmest, corson

[the_vast_mystery]

Currently we don't have a population that can comprehend certain aspects of the constitution.

With certain rights comes responsibility is the first that comes to mind.

Twould be a rather useless document until people get the real intention of it which is what rights are wrought from--responsibility.

We live in a society that has to make a law, a law mind you, not to kill gay people because they make certain aspects of our society 'nervous'. ..

Because people are not responsible they have certain rights taken away because....they aren't responsible with them.

We gave up our own control by becoming re-active and not re-sponsive. Responsiveness is the better part of responsibility.

Really the lack of responsibility is primarily towards anything larger than everyone's personal sphere. The only thing the population can be as a whole accused of is completely shirking its responsibility towards informing itself, electing and keeping pressure upon the organs of government. Or as a famous someone else once said:

The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men

[Avocadess]

DRAKE is now talking about the "unanimous vote to audit the Fed."

Federal and local law enforcement working together to make sure our kids are safe is a good sign, says Drake. (Yes, it is!!)

Lady Dragon spoke of someone on Twitter who claimed to be held hostage for a week and didn't know who took him or why that made a big impact on Twitter yesterday afternoon. (I don't know what this means, but Lady Dragon seems to believe that whoever took him decided not to hurt him and put him back.)

Drake now talking about Erik Holder, who has been withholding paperwork with no good excuse. The only excuse was the President's saying "Executive Privilege." Drake suggests that Obama is an accomplice and "needs to go down with Erik Holder."

[Fred Steeves]

"When they say sit back and enjoy the fireworks," Drake things they (the military) really mean business.


I'm so relieved that absolutely nothing is required of us little people.

And, I'm crossing my fingers and toes that the new ones to be in charge are nice.http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Bingzhu]

You all joined project avalon because this is a different forum than the others out there. Respect each other. The Drake show will end soon, by revolution or by being busted as a lier or a delusional. You want to be able to talk to each other later too!

All this talk about ignoring, all this hate here isn't covered by the round table of well meaning people. Come on guys. You are better than this here.

[Avocadess]

Lady Dragon said Cobra sent her a message for everyone to be calm, positive vibes for a positive and successful outcome and all that sort of thing.

Now Minute Man is joining the show. Drake is telling MM on the air that if the military needs any help they may be contacting him (Minute Man) directly.

Now it's break time (for proly about 10 minutes while some music plays).

Someone called in and talked about the guillotines at the FEMA camps where troops were being taught to use them. Drake answered, "These people aren't nice."

The caller is very happy to hear this nightmare is about to end.

Another caller expresses concern that people who don't know about this will panic. He wants to know why the military didn't make sure people would know about this in advance. Drake said they DO want them to know.

Drake said don't freak out and don't worry about carrying a gun and the military is on our side. He said he got the information from high-ranking military in both the U.S. and other countries.

The caller expressed concern for the millions who do not know what it going on, and Drake answered by saying the military will go mainstream "immediately," but there may be some action before they go fully mainstream with this. He said they are listening to this call.

[applecrusher1992]

Green Light has been given. The event will occur this week within 72 hours. I repeat Green Light has been given.

[LarryC]

There's an obvious Boy Who Cried Wolf aspect to this type of thing. It's natural to be skeptical when you've heard similar predictions many times before. However, it's not really rational to assume that the future will be an exact copy of the past. There's a mechanical aspect to our minds, however, that tells us this. That's why (if you live in a cold climate), in the middle of Winter you feel like it will never get warm again. In the overall scheme of things, delays of weeks, months years or even decades and centuries barely counts for anything. It may be naive to believe that the world will be totally different on July 4. But it's also naive to think you know that it won't be.

[9eagle9]

Make something up?

Does it matter?

IN this week's installation..... A Chase Bank Manger was found motionless behind his desk prompting nation wide rumors that perhaps he's been placed in a state of suspended animation....Later the Bank Manager was found to be intensely absorbed in this weeks issue of the National Inquirer.

In other parts of the country two police offers were found wandering the streets with sidearms prompting rumors that law enforcement officials were going to save the US citizenry from..uhm..something....




fell asleep at his desk causing local concern that he had perhaps

REMINDER: Drake's show begins in less than an hour.

DRAKE's Internet Radio Show, 3 hours in length with Q&A at the end, is 6:00-9:00 p.m. Central Time today (4-7 Pacific, 5-8 Mountain, 7-10 Eastern). Here is a link:

http://alturl.com/p7cw9

If you would like to ask a question, call this number (and call it early). You can listen to the show on the phone while waiting for your chance to speak:

(646) 716-4984

I'm sorry but I am not going to be able to transcribe today. I've got other things in my life which I am doing today and therefore will miss out on all the fun. I hope someone will transcribe though so I can read it later.

Please let me now if a Constitutional Convention is discussed.

[Avocadess]

applecrusher92: I didn't hear Green Light. Did that happen right after the break or are you joking?!!

Wow. Drake said Alex Jones will be one of the people letting people know what is going on.

I think the show just went "dead." Can anyone else hear it?!

Okay. I can hear it again...


YES, Drake just confirmed that he WILL be posting GREENLIGHT right after this program...!!!!!!

(Thanks to Kimberley for having Drake confirm that!!!)

NOTE from Avocadess: GREENLIGHT means 72 hour waning before "it" starts to hit the fan. It has been expected that MONEY will be devalued to ZERO before re-valuing it and this MAY mean that we will not be able to buy much or anything with money for a few weeks. This means if you have not already done so, go to the store and get whatever is NECESSARY for you and hopefully some FUN things too...(like chocolate, haha). Good WATER....For some people this may be beans and rice; for some it may mean toilet tissue or diapers or just whatever YOU need. And stay CALM and get ready to be a part of a great TRANSITION in this country.

Drake said, "You are not going to have the Gestapo police" or racist stuff.

Drake said, "The IRS is going" -- Woo-Hoo!!! and "We are going to clean the jails out -- a lot."

Caller asked if there will be a hotline to help clean up our counties. Drake said he has something on his website that links to help with ways to connect with people for this sort of thing. Minute Man also came on to answer the question of the caller who said there are dirty sheriffs, etc. in his county. "Would the militia be available to give us leadership?" asked the caller.

Minute Man encourages most of the militias to "wait to be contacted," and we will be addressing the cleanup issues from state to state. Asked his website, MM answered wramsite.com

Another caller asked about the prosperity packages. Drake said the people are being notified and some people got money and that's about all Drake knows about it. Drake isn't too sure about that whole thing.

Asked what will happen to the Queen of England, Drake said he personally doesn't much care. Drake said House of London and other things causing problems are going to be gotten rid of. People want their freedom and the idea of full control of a country by someone who doesn't live there is "a bit much." [Drake went on about this for a while, saying that all the countries on the planet will be freed in the near future.]

Asked about the Vatican Bank, Drake said that our (U.S.) freedom will be attended to first.

Asked about the Federal Reserve, Drake said, "It goes."

"Completely out?" asked the caller.

"Yes," said Drake.

Asked when the ETs might make an appearance, Drake said that it will be very lightly at first and more heavily later -- but that he has not been cleared to tell us much more than this at this time.

Asked if we should buy toilet paper and water or beer and popcorn, Drake said that was an interesting question. He would not depend on the military to provide people with enjoyable versions of necessities. He reminded people who need medication to get extra meds.

Drake suggests that you take two weeks' worth of money out of your bank account. But if a Central Bank closes, you just don't know what will happen. That is why it would be good to take some money out. In some places you may be able to spend money where you cannot spend credit cards or checks.

Asked if there would be a hold on the Olympics, Drake does not know.

[it's a short break right now...]

I fell asleep at the job for a while there...

"Everything is going on. That's what." -- Drake (haha)

[crosby]

i heard the Green Light message.
regards, corson

[foreverfan]

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[applecrusher1992]

Make something up?

Does it matter?

IN this week's installation..... A Chase Bank Manger was found motionless behind his desk prompting nation wide rumors that perhaps he's been placed in a state of suspended animation....Later the Bank Manager was found to be intensely absorbed in this weeks issue of the National Inquirer.

In other parts of the country two police offers were found wandering the streets with sidearms prompting rumors that law enforcement officials were going to save the US citizenry from..uhm..something....




fell asleep at his desk causing local concern that he had perhaps

REMINDER: Drake's show begins in less than an hour.

DRAKE's Internet Radio Show, 3 hours in length with Q&A at the end, is 6:00-9:00 p.m. Central Time today (4-7 Pacific, 5-8 Mountain, 7-10 Eastern). Here is a link:

http://alturl.com/p7cw9

If you would like to ask a question, call this number (and call it early). You can listen to the show on the phone while waiting for your chance to speak:

(646) 716-4984

I'm sorry but I am not going to be able to transcribe today. I've got other things in my life which I am doing today and therefore will miss out on all the fun. I hope someone will transcribe though so I can read it later.

Please let me now if a Constitutional Convention is discussed.

Hey eagle

I appreciate your comments but they seem to the point of purposely attacking people for what they do. I have a serious question for you. Do you expect someone to hand you freedom on a sliver platter or do you expect you need to do it yourself? I feel like you attack anyone when they want to take concrete action on something they believe in. I just ask you stop mocking people for what they believe in and what they do.

[gripreaper]

I'm heading out right now to spend a ton on fireworks for this year, since it is going to be the best fourth of July ever. I want the illegal kind that you can really blow sh!t up, you know, the kind you get on Indian reservations?

AND, I'm going to bar-b-que hormone fed beef, pink slime hot dogs, and we'll have radiated vegetables to put on them with bleached gluten buns and hydrolyzed and hydrogenated oils, and potato chips with mono-sodium-glutamate and soda pop with aspartame!

We'll have free beer, or something along those lines...it's that simple...

It's going to be a great fourth of July! Hip Hip HOOOOOOOOOOORAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[9eagle9]

Having some man tell you how your freedom is being carved out right now by others (military, DOD, militia, ETs) right now by others, and then telling you how your life is going to be after via brief sound bitten blurbs,afterwards hardly strikes me as people who are carving out their freedom on their own. It sounds to me like there life is being handed to them on a silver platter or conveyed to them in speech over a radio broadcast--this is how it will be for you.

Maybe people need to free their minds first (or at least attempt to) before noshing on what freedom really is. It's not given to you by others, it is won for yourself.





Hey eagle

I appreciate your comments but they seem to the point of purposely attacking people for what they do. I have a serious question for you. Do you expect someone to hand you freedom on a sliver platter or do you expect we need to do it ourselves? I feel like you attack any action that someone does something they believe in. I just ask you stop mocking people for what they believe in and what they do.

[foreverfan]

I'm heading out right now to spend a ton on fireworks for this year, since it is going to be the best fourth of July ever. We'll have free beer, or something along those lines...it's that simple...

AND, I'm going to bar-b-que hormone fed beef, hot dogs, and we'll have radiated vegetables to put on them with bleached gluten buns and hydrolyzed and hydrogenated oils, and potato chips with MSG and soda pop with aspartame!

It's going to be a great fourth of July! Hip Hip HOOOOOOOOOOORAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL... Party at your house.... I'll bring the toilet paper. WTF do you live?

I'm sure we all hope that Avocadess is vindicated.

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[gripreaper]

LOL... Party at your house.... I'll bring the toilet paper. WTF do you live?

You have extra toilet paper? We're kinda short on toilet paper around here cause we spent all our residuals on free beer for everyone!!!! You know how free beer attracts people, don't you?

It's that simple...something along those lines...

[Unified Serenity]

Hey eagle

I appreciate your comments but they seem to the point of purposely attacking people for what they do. I have a serious question for you. Do you expect someone to hand you freedom on a sliver platter or do you expect you need to do it yourself? I feel like you attack anyone when they want to take concrete action on something they believe in. I just ask you stop mocking people for what they believe in and what they do.

Do tell, what concrete action has Drake et al taken? I haven't seen any. All I see is cult building, mindless belief, and giving away of power. Enjoy the ride.

[foreverfan]

LOL... Party at your house.... I'll bring the toilet paper. WTF do you live?

You have extra toilet paper? We're kinda short on toilet paper around here cause we spent all our residuals on free beer for everyone!!!! You know how free beer attracts people, don't you?

It's that simple...something along those lines...

As I said before, I have toilet paper futures and about 40,000,000 rolls. I've been waiting for the crap to hit the fan. How much do you need? Avalon members 12 rolls free... just pay postage and handling.

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[SilentFeathers]

Okay, I'll wait again till the 4th of July.....but I won't be holding my breath......but I will be trying to figure out what excuse he'll use on the 4th to come up with another date.

[applecrusher1992]

Hey eagle

I appreciate your comments but they seem to the point of purposely attacking people for what they do. I have a serious question for you. Do you expect someone to hand you freedom on a sliver platter or do you expect you need to do it yourself? I feel like you attack anyone when they want to take concrete action on something they believe in. I just ask you stop mocking people for what they believe in and what they do.

Do tell, what concrete action has Drake et al taken? I haven't seen any. All I see is cult building, mindless belief, and giving away of power. Enjoy the ride.

The point wasn't about Drake but people taking action themselves. I just ask that people don't attack and mock others for trying to do something they believe in. I guess we shall have an answer about Drake by the 4th of July and probably sooner than that.

[Chuck]

"It's not easy being green"

[Bingzhu]

There is a time to fight and there also is a time to fight lies.

[foreverfan]

Do tell, what concrete action has Drake et al taken? I haven't seen any. All I see is cult building, mindless belief, and giving away of power. Enjoy the ride.

Relax... tonight is about enjoying the show. Give Drake his say. Tomorrow is another day. I heard that the pyramid on our dollar will now be replaced with a roll of toilet paper!!! Woooo Hooooo....

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[Avocadess]

Drake is talking about how there may be a national sales tax or a user fee or user tax....although many of the taxes to which we have become accustomed will disappear.

The show is almost over...

Another caller asked about social security, medicare. Drake said he doesn't think a lot of people are going to notice a lot of difference right away. (In the past he has said he believes these people will be taken care of.)

Drake closed by saying we have a "bright and shining future."

[Unified Serenity]

Do tell, what concrete action has Drake et al taken? I haven't seen any. All I see is cult building, mindless belief, and giving away of power. Enjoy the ride.

The point wasn't about Drake but people taking action themselves. I just ask that people don't attack and mock others for trying to do something they believe in. I guess we shall have an answer about Drake by the 4th of July and probably sooner than that.

I am not mocking anyone. I am making an observation of a man, not anyone who is looking for solutions in a real way. I happen to have a very different view of Drake than others have. I'd much sooner follow in some plans those on here might be at odds with me if they were plausible than anything Drake et al would devise. He is not to be trusted and I base this on months of observation. I think most people on Avalon are here for similar reasons though we may come at different angles.

Peace

[applecrusher1992]

And I totally agree that freedom is something won for yourself. I just wanted to ask because I was wondering how you thought things where going to play out on the 3D over the next couple of years. To address Drake he does tells his listeners that you have the freedom to believe what he says or not. I always have caution with these things. I will also believe when I start seeing.


Having some man tell you how your freedom is being carved out right now by others (military, DOD, militia, ETs) right now by others, and then telling you how your life is going to be after via brief sound bitten blurbs,afterwards hardly strikes me as people who are carving out their freedom on their own. It sounds to me like there life is being handed to them on a silver platter or conveyed to them in speech over a radio broadcast--this is how it will be for you.

Maybe people need to free their minds first (or at least attempt to) before noshing on what freedom really is. It's not given to you by others, it is won for yourself.

[Avocadess]

Drake said a lot of CPAs are going to be needed.

He said we can look for the central banking system to go out in Europe and the U.S. though he does not know the timeline on that.

Drake spoke directly to the military at the end of the show saying, "You've got my number" and that he will be happy to help them in any way he can.

He also told us he (Drake) was actually surprised to hear about this coming at this time. (By now he was expecting more delays!)


The entire show can be listened to again very shortly (probably within 5 minutes) at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network

[applecrusher1992]

Hey Unified Serenity

I never meant that you mocked anyone. I was just reiterating the points of my last post which I didn't think you got. No hard feeling about anyone really. Actually I am having fun with this.



I am not mocking anyone. I am making an observation of a man, not anyone who is looking for solutions in a real way. I happen to have a very different view of Drake than others have. I'd much sooner follow in some plans those on here might be at odds with me if they were plausible than anything Drake et al would devise. He is not to be trusted and I base this on months of observation. I think most people on Avalon are here for similar reasons though we may come at different angles.

Peace

[Unified Serenity]

Understood applecrusher, thanks for the note. Good luck!


Hey Unified Serenity

I never meant that you mocked anyone. I was just reiterating the points of my last post which I didn't think you got. No hard feeling about anyone really. Actually I am having fun with this.

[Chester]

I am watching the Detroit Tigers playing the Texas Rangers. Just about 30 minutes ago there was an interview of Nolan Ryan while he was sitting comfortably in his front row seat. Sitting right next to him, just as comfortably was and still is George W. Bush. You have got to be kidding me if part of this Plan is to arrest "Bush and family."

You have got to be kidding me if any of this plan is real...

I wonder if this Drake stuff is another study being done by the government like they did about 75 years ago or so when they did that "War of the Wolds" radio broadcast?

[gripreaper]

I am watching the Detroit Tigers playing the Texas Rangers. Just about 30 minutes ago there was an interview of Nolan Ryan while he was sitting comfortably in his front row seat. Sitting right next to him, just as comfortably was and still is George W. Bush.

What? Why isn't he in his hidey hole, quivering like a baby in the fetal position cowering in fear for his life?

[Avocadess]

It may be easier to listen to the archive of tonight's show with DRAKE here:

http://alturl.com/hpy8w

And please, if you would, click on one or more of the advertisements on that page. This will help to support the radio show without costing you anything.

Wishing you the best day EVER!!

Avocadess

P.S. It has gotten so distractive here with so many people posting who-knows-what that I will be posting less here rather than more. Anyone who wants to see my updates can see them at avocadess.com/door2 without having to scroll through all the distractions. HAPPY FREEDOM...!!!!!

[9eagle9]

What I see playing out in the 3d over the next few years only applies to me. I don't care what other people are dong I'm assuming they are walking their talk and creating their reality.

Do I foresee a future where I'm telling a pack of herd animals what to do..no. Don't put your hands there, keep your mind out of that, stop sticking your dick into mousetraps....like I have for the last 25 years. I do see myself with people who continue their inner search for sovereignty. I MAY continue thinking about hooking up with some intentioned community people but they are going to be operating in the same model I am--independence and interdependence. (not co dependency).

Independent people are far more , just freakin pleasureable to be around because they get it.

The reason the last few attempts at testing those waters is because everyone wanted to be told what to do, no one had anything to contribute (I know how to meditate and listen to Oprah!) and basically they stood around waiting for me to produce something for them, or manage their lives for them and make them feel safe and happy. I very much see this same sort of mindsets wrapped up in this Drake scenario--wait and someone will fix it, us, and everything. No ...no more of this find the most capable person on two legs and latch on.

I don't want to be fixed, particularly by someone else. There is nothing 'wrong' with my life as long as it keeps being MY life, my creation, creating what I want.

I will predict this and I know it. Even if all this Drake stuff comes to pass, what is really ailing people is not going to be fixed,and what what really ails people will be ignored until they find themselves in another control drama.. I KNOW this if his stories don't come to pass. And he can't fix it, only you can. The first time you get yourself chain slaved back into another control issue its going to be right back to square one because people have not learned or come to know the essential core value here. There is absolutely no reason not know it. I'ts not a secret, its not been witheld from them; they willfully choose to have someone else orchestrate things.

The best part of sovereign person is a person who knows how to take risks. Not stupid, carom over the cliff risks but calculated risks, people who are not afraid to speculate on the outcome of any given situation , the good, the bad, the indifferent. I don't see people doing that, its all just Do A and B will be a happy ending.



I've stopped paying taxes like way yesterday. I've stopped buying their ****ty food, I doctor myself, I'm self unemployed, I've no payments, mortgages, debts to tie me into the system and the few other tentactly things I need to extracate myself from I'm working on ..NO ONE IS TELLING ME how to shape my reality. People give me helpful advice periodically but the freedom making up to this point is on my own, and first I had to free the inside of me.

Not a herd animal that checks in with the shepherd to find out what the pastureage will be like.



And I totally agree that freedom is something won for yourself. I just wanted to ask because I was wondering how you thought things where going to play out on the 3D over the next couple of years. To address Drake he does tells his listeners that you have the freedom to believe what he says or not. I always have caution with these things. I will also believe when I start seeing.

[Anchor]

Drake is Psy ops. I doubt he knows that consciously but someone out there knows how he's being handled even if he doesn't.

….

We've already had all the control we can manage, because its someone elses control and not our own. We have control now, Control if Drakes plan ever, in the wildest suppositions ever came to pass.

Its time for something original.

9eagle9,

Thanks for this superb post, something I was trying to do myself and failing every time I got started.

I agree with everything you have said.


The point wasn't about Drake but people taking action themselves. I just ask that people don't attack and mock others for trying to do something they believe in. I guess we shall have an answer about Drake by the 4th of July and probably sooner than that.

I don't see any substantive mocking going on. Some sarcasm, usually done to illustrate a point that needs making some way or other, sure, but who cares - at the level its presented its background noise compared to the Drake "narrative" and the running commentary on the rather bizarre output from the radio shows.

In my opinion people who "support" Drake are being slowly processed - something akin to hypnotism. It is the same sort of thing that starts any cult.

Some people are immune to this control process, mostly because they have seen it before, time after time - and there are a lot of them on this forum.

Sooner or later, some of these come along and trying to point that out, the processed ones go into defense mode - well programmed defenses.

These days, the new defense program is that anytime people come along and challenge the narrative and point out the holes and logic problems - they get told to believe what they want to believe and let the rest alone.

Fine. Actually, it is fine for this - freewill must not be infringed, nor can it be.

However, for any given cult, the control of your belief and therefore your power is what is required; eventually with the objective of getting you to act in some manner or other in concordance with an agenda that is not your own. Like starting a civil war or something like that.

Tricky stuff.

So what happens now, and it should happen on forums like this one, is that opposing views are aired. The energy moves in the forum equivalent of aikido, the victims come out with the same kinds of defenses they always do and demonstrate this whole process – over and over again.

You DO not have to do that either. You don't even have to respond to this message.

If you simply cannot remain silent about this post, and you think I am wrong just say so and why and leave it at that. If you do though try and use some logic and don’t just tell me to "believe what I want to believe", because I do that already.

Every time someone does speak against the “narrative”, they can expect to meet the consequent accusations of being negative or attacking whenever they speak up; it just shows that the programming is even working on the forum itself. It gets increasingly hard to be open minded and presenting any kind of sane rebuttals without getting into the space of having to word everything really carefully so as to stay within the forum guidelines and not hurt peoples feelings too much.

Civility is important, but so is the subject matter.

IMO 9eagle9 is one of the exponents on this forum of presenting the views that counter the programming; and I deeply appreciate the amount of energy that she puts into that.

As for doing something…. Please name some examples of things of substance that have been done outside of radio broadcasting and posts on forums that further the downfall of the cabal.

So far it is all narrative and stories. Wars you can’t see in far off places. There we read of heroic victories with no sight of the victors. Imminent threats and counter manoeuvres. Regular broadcasts are made from the saviours of the human race.

"George Orwell would be proud. His book 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a freaking instruction manual!"

Drake could be reading a script for a sci-fi movie that he and others are working on - that is what it seems like to me. He is likely a pawn in this propaganda having been trapped by his own senses of justice and power. As 9eagle9 puts it, a psyop. Objective: to discredit a bunch of emergent awakening souls and nerf the impact they can have in the world via media means.

Here, bluntly are the three (+ bonus ET) groups as I see them:

1) The goodies that make a real stand – self authorized, powerful, responsible, self-acting
- Wants freedom, unconditional love, evolution, love of all foremost, aligned with the care of the planet and her evolution

2) Undecided / Brainwashed / Canon fodder / somnolent masses
- what do I do? Who should I listen to? Will someone do something? Who is going to tell me what to do? Who can provide me information?

3) The “baddies” that make a real stand – self authorized, powerful, responsible, self-acting
- Wants power, control, hierarchy, devolution, love of self foremost, uncaring about the care of the planet and her evolution except insofar as it helps their own aims

4) The forth group of people who have basically all but transcended polarity consciousness but who assist in the service of the entire one infinite creator.

Which camp do you fit in?[1]

Don’t let the choice get made for you.

Make your own choice.

Anchor..
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[1] In case this helps clarify my ideas above: I think group (3), is the 1% and admittance requires you need to be thoroughly bad-ass and what most people call evil. Group (2) is the bulk of humanity, Group (1) are also small in number. Group (4) are mostly ET.

[applecrusher1992]

It may be easier to listen to the archive of tonight's show with DRAKE here:

http://alturl.com/hpy8w

And please, if you would, click on one or more of the advertisements on that page. This will help to support the radio show without costing you anything.

Wishing you the best day EVER!!

Avocadess

P.S. It has gotten so distractive here with so many people posting who-knows-what that I will be posting less here rather than more. Anyone who wants to see my updates can see them at avocadess.com/door2 without having to scroll through all the distractions. HAPPY FREEDOM...!!!!!

Sorry for being part of the problem.

[LarryC]

It may be easier to listen to the archive of tonight's show with DRAKE here:

http://alturl.com/hpy8w

And please, if you would, click on one or more of the advertisements on that page. This will help to support the radio show without costing you anything.

Wishing you the best day EVER!!

Avocadess

P.S. It has gotten so distractive here with so many people posting who-knows-what that I will be posting less here rather than more. Anyone who wants to see my updates can see them at avocadess.com/door2 without having to scroll through all the distractions. HAPPY FREEDOM...!!!!!

There are a couple of Facebook pages that discuss these issues too. They are good places to read or post updates for anyone who finds that there are too many distractions here.

[9eagle9]

Drakes adherents wouldn't feel so mocked if they TRULY knew this plan for themselves . Such uncertainty being expressed and I know they don't believe in it much at all..... On the surface perhaps they do but not in that deep knowing place.

But these catch slogans of warriorship, and change, and fighting some battle are being issued from the mouths of people alternately whine they are mocked, their feelings are hurt, some one was rude. The world is going to change on a sea of conflict by people who warble about and obviate about how very little inner strength they have? Feeling beat up in an internet forum doesn't bode well for how you will fare when this predicted rising tide of change comes.

And...I hate to predict this, the aftermath of Drakes plan will result in a lot of conflict ...CONFLICT....and possibly as the old system starts to come down someone my (and I'm warning you ....) ....disagree with you.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I think this is your cue to call your bookie.....if the plan to freight a metric ton of gold fails we know the bookie won't.



Why is he explaining casino odds? He is all over the place like a pachinko ball.

[foreverfan]

wALNWwzERQ4

[9eagle9]

I'm sorry did Ron Paul do that or Drake?


Avocadess, i think she is referring to the federal audit that rp has been trying to get through.
warmest, corson

[StarDust]

This was posted on the Global Voice 2012 website:

http://globalvoice2012.us/?p=258


Here are my notes taken during Drake’s call going on from 6-9 PM CST, 6/27/2012.

by thedoor

The military has told Drake “This is Green Light.”

The spirit of the call was like freedom bells ringing throughout, once Drake said the green light had been given by the military.

Notes from Drake call of 6/27/2012

G20 meeting was all about the NWO takeover.
12 false flags around the U.S. had been planned, including nuclear devices, for October (maybe a rerun of last year’s “October Surprise” that didn’t happen), so there would be no elections. They’ve been handled.
According to the ET’s, “the cavalry is coming.”
They will take care of things.
“Sit back and watch the fireworks.” They’ll call on the military only if needed.


“We have won.”

With mass arrests and removals from office, the MSM may not have a choice about reporting it.

Yesterday and today Drake got his answer from the military:

They have the paperwork and it’s been submitted correctly.
The majority of the states have submitted notification that they are free of the corporate govt.
The military can take action on behalf of the people against the corporation.
The military will begin supporting the vets as they should be.


Get some cash out of banks, though no major interruptions are expected.
Drake has been given a day for the event–this week. (I assume that means in the next 3 days, and possibly tomorrow or Friday.)

He thinks the military has finally gotten the idea that if they didn’t act, the people would.

Every time the opposing forces have tried to do a trial run with air vehicles, they’ve been met by superior forces and told to land.

Lady Dragon reporting:

FBI was on CNN about braking up a large child prostitution ring.
The audit the fed bill made positive progress today. There was a unanimous vote in the House in favor of it, something unheard of in the past.
Cobra also confirmed things are working well and to remain calm.


Drake again:

The politicians are seeing the handwriting on the wall. Some of them will be lucky to retain their lives.

Break

Drake again:

The military has told Drake “This is Green Light.”It will be posted on his website after this call.

Many other countries are watching us. They feel if we can do it, they can too.

England and the European Union are having extreme duress maintaining life support. G20 said they would cut all financial ties to other countries. The European Union is on its own. The E.U. was the prototype of the NWO.

A lot of the money that should be going into our highways has been going into the trans-America highway for the North American Union (Mexico/US/Canada). (From the nature of the call, we can probably assume that that won’t happen.)

He suggests that the U.N. will begin to have some very difficult problems very shortly because they’re following globalist policies. They will be terminated as they are and be reinstated according to the original plans for it. It was taken over by the globalists.

The religions (religiosity) will be attended to shortly also. The E.T.’s will give us the true story that’s been denied us.

He did some checking with other countries about what’s going down and got confirmation there too.

He said the military will go mainstream with this as soon as they can. They’re listening to these calls to ensure that the info is being put out correctly. They wanted Drake to be educating the public about this coming event. They’ll also be using some people well known to “out” the info. Wanted freedom and militia communities to be reached, so they wouldn’t take action unless necessary.

Canada will have to determine if they will cooperate or not. The central banking system on this continent will be closed, which includes Canada too. So they’ll be up against hundreds of other countries wanting them to cooperate if they don’t comply.

The notification process (declaring our independence from the corporate U.S. government) to the Hague set us free from the other ties and treaties contrary to the American documents–Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence. Nullification of all former contracts which are contrary to these documents.

Listen to traffic stations for possible slow downs.

All things that are contrary to the best interests of the people will be attended to, including courts, judges, etc.

Women will be much more in charge.

Governments start wars, not people.

There will be major changes coming. The legalities will be changed. Finance will be changed. “Eventually we may not need money.”

Individual rights will be reinstated. Attending to the needs of our brothers and sisters will become standard.

IRS will be going. People in prison because of them will be released.

http://WRAMsite.com (Minute Man’s Well Regulated American Militias website)

We have cut ties with England, City of London, and other controlling places like that.

Vatican Bank has serious financial problems. Been cut off largely (called the Northern Connection). That’s been severed.

Federal Reserve goes out.

Was asked when E.T.’s might make an appearance? A time has been given but he must hold that info for now.

He suggested a week’s supply of food; stock up on necessities in case of interruption. Take two weeks of money out of bank account. May have hits and misses in terms of deliveries. May have some food shortages due to delivery issues.

He has update on Neil Keenan and the various financial law suits but can’t say it now. It may become public before he can say.

A traveler told a caller that their flight was sent to Las Vegas and couldn’t land in Denver because the military were arresting several hundred people there.

Drake has been in “school” for about a month learning how to communicate with the E.T.’s, through imagery and thought. They will be sharing that with us, so we can better communicate with us.

There have been an unusual number of flights leaving the Dover (England) airport today. The Queen was wearing “green” today. (We wondered if there was a connection to “green light” there.)

Drake said since he has been allowed to go public with this, Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh could do the same. They both have Drake’s email if they want more details.

When military determines we are free, church bells will be ringing.

Military doesn’t have much respect for B.O. He hasn’t been listening to them.

Govt. checks should continue as expected. May get larger.

NESARA law will be publicly discussed and perhaps enlarged.

We have a bright and shining future.

Central banking system will go out in the near future.

[9eagle9]

More importantly....Are the Tigers losing?

75 years ago!!!???


I kid you not about this next. Several years back my deaf old Uncle Ules was channel surfing and came across a CNN broadcast that was revealing that hostile aliens had landed in pods globally and the whole world was under red alert, and the military was massing to counter this attack. He freaked out and called all my other aunts and uncles in to see the broadcast (they weren't hearing impaired) and soon they we're all freaking out. Incredulous, breathless, spellbound. Now mind you these are people who adamantly believe the only thing that exists is God, Jesus and the Southern Baptist church. That's it. No ufos, no aliens, no ETS.

GodJesusChurch.End of story.

So during this spine chilling episode (where all rigidly held beliefs suddenly fall away) One aunt falls to the floor to scream to Jesus and crawls out the front door, praying and gabbling, and scrambling away to dissociate herself from her brethern and sistern sinners....Literally giving them up, telling Jesus how horrid they are while she earnestly prays for her own soul as she slithers out onto the front porch.

only to have the show break to commerical. The newest release of War of the Worlds in syndication.

Wasn't Tom Cruise in that.

The point is what people think they believe and what they REALLY believe way beneath the surface comes to light under times of even mild psychological trauma.

Someone elses system of belief may fail them...but its up to me if that system of belief fails me.



I am watching the Detroit Tigers playing the Texas Rangers. Just about 30 minutes ago there was an interview of Nolan Ryan while he was sitting comfortably in his front row seat. Sitting right next to him, just as comfortably was and still is George W. Bush. You have got to be kidding me if part of this Plan is to arrest "Bush and family."

You have got to be kidding me if any of this plan is real...

I wonder if this Drake stuff is another study being done by the government like they did about 75 years ago or so when they did that "War of the Wolds" radio broadcast?

[Unified Serenity]

"George Orwell would be proud. His book 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a freaking instruction manual!"

Loved this line Anchor. Great post!

[TargeT]

I'm sorry did Ron Paul do that or Drake?


Avocadess, i think she is referring to the federal audit that rp has been trying to get through.
warmest, corson

His (Ron Paul) bill (HR 459 - Audit The Fed) passed the House today.... three years ago the same thing happened but it was gutted by the Senate... so this is a non-issue in my mind; until it clears the Senate and POTUS anyway....

[Anchor]

"George Orwell would be proud. His book 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a freaking instruction manual!"

Loved this line Anchor. Great post!

I stole it ;) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/henryporter/2009/jun/08/1984-orwell-gchq-surveillance)

[LarryC]

The whole issue of whether we're going to be rescued by ETs, Whitehats or others vs. having to do it for ourselves is really a non-issue when you look below the surface. If we are all part of Source, and multidimensional, then there really is no separation. That's why I can be open to the most apparently unlikely channelings from sources such as SaLuSa and others from the GFL. I can't say if it's all true, but some of it might be. My point here, though, is that if it is true, it's not "them" rescuing "us." It's simply different parts of the whole working on different parts of the puzzle.

How do you know that living your life, meditating and even wishing for a better world doesn't translate into "action" on some other level? Those who insist that we have to do all the work (though they seldom specify what that entails) are invoking a Puritan type ethic that's always been popular in America. There's a certain fear of not doing enough, of being lazy or irresponsible. To embrace the new paradigm, we have to be willing to let go of such fears -and to let the universe unfold as it will, effortlessly.

[jackovesk]

I am my alternate plan, no one is hiding what needs to be done on the individual level (not the stampeding herd level) its just that the herd is so mesmerized by stories they aren't paying attention to their ability to create their own reality.

Daily I do something to create a different reality for myself. You've had yours delivered, someone has suggested a limiting reality to you and you've for-sook your own to invest in something that isn't yours because you have turned your head on your own resources.

That's your choice.




The naysayers are not offering emotionally laden stories and quick fixes to replace the Drake story.

If we composed an alternate line of opposing bull**** to feed you that was even more spectacular then this tripe, guaranteed you'd fall for it.

But then we'd be no better than the celebrity gurus that spoon fed you the original story .

So what you are saying is that you have no alternative plan yourself? You just spend a lot of time and energy criticising others here who support the ONLY plan. That's an easy route but it changes absolutely nothing. The elite/cabal are proud of your efforts as they have nothing to worry about.

Stan

:bump:

Thanks 9eagle9, that about sums it up...:yes4:

My apologies aranuk for not replying to you one on one...

...the FACT is I am growing increasingly TIRED of those of you who need to constantly look outside of themselves or to others for the answers...:faint:

[Anchor]

How do you know that living your life, meditating and even wishing for a better world doesn't translate into "action" on some other level?

In point of fact I do think that it does translate to appropriate action.

So long as it is "your" life and not lived according to someone else's agenda.


To embrace the new paradigm, we have to be willing to let go of such fears -and to let the universe unfold as it will, effortlessly.

Quite - and nicely put.

Meanwhile, we navigate through it as responsible individuals who are co-creating that universe.

[humanalien]

This video seem to be more about drake than it does
bob dean. In fact, bob has only a very small segment
in this video where he is speaking.

It does having other speakers in it though, all talking
pretty much about the same things that drake has said.

2012-06-22 Cosmic Vision News with Bob Dean

Gn7e3wo_9AY

[Blueskywalking]

Sorry to disturb the piss*ng match here but....

Green Light has just been given - a 24-72 hour heads up for immanent action....

”THIS IS GREEN LIGHT”

“The cavalry is coming… Sit back and watch the fireworks”…

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/drake-mid-week-update-6-27-12-preemptive-preparedness-finalized-mp3s-the-cavalry-is-coming-sit-back-and-watch-the-fireworks-this-is-green-light/

Get it direct from the horses mouth. :)

Complete Show from Wed 27/6/2012 6pm Central:

http://www.spirit.kauwila.net/wordpress_kauilapele/120627_Drake_show_complete_3414927.mp3
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/27/gvr--drake-mid-week-update--wednesday-1

Spare a thought for all those who are about to put their lives on the line for the Freedom of All!
They either succeed or start pushing up daisies over the next few days...

Ok, thanks for your attention, I'll let you get back to your mind games...

[modwiz]

What I see playing out in the 3d over the next few years only applies to me. I don't care what other people are dong I'm assuming they are walking their talk and creating their reality.

Do I foresee a future where I'm telling a pack of herd animals what to do..no. Don't put your hands there, keep your mind out of that, stop sticking your dick into mousetraps....like I have for the last 25 years. I do see myself with people who continue their inner search for sovereignty. I MAY continue thinking about hooking up with some intentioned community people but they are going to be operating in the same model I am--independence and interdependence. (not co dependency).

Independent people are far more , just freakin pleasureable to be around because they get it.

The reason the last few attempts at testing those waters is because everyone wanted to be told what to do, no one had anything to contribute (I know how to meditate and listen to Oprah!) and basically they stood around waiting for me to produce something for them, or manage their lives for them and make them feel safe and happy. I very much see this same sort of mindsets wrapped up in this Drake scenario--wait and someone will fix it, us, and everything. No ...no more of this find the most capable person on two legs and latch on.

I don't want to be fixed, particularly by someone else. There is nothing 'wrong' with my life as long as it keeps being MY life, my creation, creating what I want.

I will predict this and I know it. Even if all this Drake stuff comes to pass, what is really ailing people is not going to be fixed,and what what really ails people will be ignored until they find themselves in another control drama.. I KNOW this if his stories don't come to pass. And he can't fix it, only you can. The first time you get yourself chain slaved back into another control issue its going to be right back to square one because people have not learned or come to know the essential core value here. There is absolutely no reason not know it. I'ts not a secret, its not been witheld from them; they willfully choose to have someone else orchestrate things.

The best part of sovereign person is a person who knows how to take risks. Not stupid, carom over the cliff risks but calculated risks, people who are not afraid to speculate on the outcome of any given situation , the good, the bad, the indifferent. I don't see people doing that, its all just Do A and B will be a happy ending.



I've stopped paying taxes like way yesterday. I've stopped buying their ****ty food, I doctor myself, I'm self unemployed, I've no payments, mortgages, debts to tie me into the system and the few other tentactly things I need to extracate myself from I'm working on ..NO ONE IS TELLING ME how to shape my reality. People give me helpful advice periodically but the freedom making up to this point is on my own, and first I had to free the inside of me.

Not a herd animal that checks in with the shepherd to find out what the pastureage will be like.



And I totally agree that freedom is something won for yourself. I just wanted to ask because I was wondering how you thought things where going to play out on the 3D over the next couple of years. To address Drake he does tells his listeners that you have the freedom to believe what he says or not. I always have caution with these things. I will also believe when I start seeing.


Yay, 9eagle9. What you have said here points to the real problems. It is the reason hundreds of millions of armed Americans are lorded over by a few thousands of socio and psychopathic others. Like any disease, symptoms can be made to go away and what appears to be health will be experienced.....for awhile. To not be cynical, each symptom clearing is an opportunity to be clear of the distraction of suffering. During this 'clear' period the ability to look inside and fix the broken parts that perpetuate dysfunction is made available. The sad truth is that like most lottery winners, the problems show up again because the causal problems exist within ourselves and are not external. The external problems are the manifestations of the misalignment cast into the phenomenal, 3-D, world to be experienced as the creations we put there. To be seen where we have our focus. Outside ourselves.

This kind of information is at least two generations old now and freely available. It just isn't on TV, in movies or the print media infotainment regurgitant that most support with their money, rapt attention and consumption.

The concept that we all have an equal right to the pursuit of happiness is noble and correct, IMO. The notion that we all have the ability to live free without benevolent guidance is utterly false, at this time. I have said before, golden ages had golden leaders. They were not every person for themselves. People who can't get out of their own way are more liability than neutral and that is a problem when proper function requires most to be an asset. Functioning organisms must be organized. Self-realized people are self organizing. How many self realized people are currently available. Turning to alternative media is the beginning of the process of self awakening. Until one turns inward and begins the process of repair within they are more like fans at a sporting event, living vicariously through the players.

The biggest gift that could come about from the plan to remove the cabal is it would allow for reorganization. For people to make use of the gifts of this planet and resources as a common property and inheritance. For success we must function, not dysfunction, as a healthy organism. There are those with the skills to guide the vision. Will they be heard? Not until more know how to quiet the storms raging within themselves. Let us hope we get the reset and that it is not squandered like a lottery win.

[Ishtar]

There are holes in the story that unravelled last night (my time) that are big enough to drive a military tank through.

While Drake last night may have happened to mention that Obama's signing of the Executive Order regarding Russian nuclear materials was an extension to an existing order first taken out by Bill Clinton in 2001, and it is regularly extended annually, he certainly wasn't giving the impression that he knew that the night before on Facebook, when he was rushing around trying to get everyone in a panic about it. Either he didn't know, which makes him an idiot for at least not checking before alarming everyone. Or he did know, which leads to a more sinister interpretation.

He also completely skated over the fact that he'd said something would happen by Tuesday of this week by giving us another date (4th July) which was later again changed to "in the next 72 hours".

At the very least, these are not the signs or manifestations of a "Golden Leader".

Last night, Applecrusher gave the green light even before Drake did... blowing any illusion we might have had that he/she is just a regular forum member like the rest of us. Avocadess describes any independent, analytical discussion as to what might really be going as a 'distraction' and Kimberley believes that using our critical faculties is criticism.

I think that the reason for that is that these posters view this thread as an extension of the Drake machine, created to extend even further his psy-ops propaganda. But the truth is, people don't need to come to this thread to get updates, as there are so many other sites now where Drake updates are posted, including his own forum. So please would the Drake machine kindly drop the pretence that the independent critical thinking in this thread is preventing regular people from being able to have access to much-needed updates about Drake. It's a nonsense.

If you are on this forum, and you cannot accept that your views and ideas will be challenged, then you're in the wrong place. We will continue to view and discuss Drake and his actions as objectively as we can, because this is the only sensible thing to do.

My own theory ~ which I claim the right to express without being called negative or a distraction or in the grip of the evil Archons ~ is that Drake was waiting for a critical mass of people to be on board (which is why he wanted the email addresses) before calling the green light, so that he knew there would be enough people panic buying food and toilet rolls and taking their money out of the banks to cause a run on the banks, and for the banks to close. This would then trigger wider-scale panic and rioting, which is just what the powers-that-be have been waiting for, to give them an excuse to install martial law. Meanwhile, Drake and his chums (Alex Jones, Clif High, et al) that trade in the precious metals markets will do very nicely out of it because the price of all that silver they're holding will go through the roof.

That's just my theory ... and the next few days will show us whether or not it's correct. And of course, I may be wrong. But until then, as a regular member of this forum, I reserve the right to give my opinions in this thread and to call it as I see it, without being intimidated by the Drake machine, and I hope others do too.

[Anchor]

Green Light has just been given - a 24-72 hour heads up for immanent action....

...

I'll let you get back to your mind games...

LOL, thanks for this. I'll let you avoid the irony of this for 72hrs, then you can have another crack.

I think I have a moderately palatable hat around here somewhere, just in case.

[Bill Ryan]

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I'm genuinely delighted that all these very definite predictions have been so clearly and publicly circulated. Just maybe, by the end of next week, after all the lame excuses are offered, the Drake Machine may at last seize up and stop its destructive progress.

This is like NESARA, or Elenin, or 11-11-11, or the revaluation of the Dinar, on steroids.

When nothing happens, yet again, maybe this circus can pack up and leave town and those (including some members here who should really know better), who have been so hysterically distracting us from real issues, will at last get focused on reality.

Until then, SilentFeathers and I will be standing by to eat our pants and hat respectively; we'll be very happy to do so in the unlikely event that we're somehow mistaken. I'll now get back to some real work and real issues, and will rejoin this thread in a week's time. :)

A case in point. I just now viewed this important thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46690-Alien-Interrogation-Video

Seeing that video again prompted a number of thoughts.

1) In the late '80s and throughout the '90s, there were a number of researchers of heroic status who really blew the lid wide open on ufology. This was long before Kerry and I came along. Our success rested on their shoulders, and to quite some degree all we were doing was consolidating and further publicizing work that had already been started. As Bob Dean famously said, this is the greatest story in human history.

2) Since then, the alternative media has been inundated with nonsense, false predictions, pseudo-spiritual delusion, and distractions and diversions which have been lapped up by way too many people. C.f: Elenin, Ashayana Deane, Planet X 'caught' again and again on cellphone cameras, 11-11-11, SaLuSa, the Galactic Federation of Light, Tolec, Blossom Goodchild.... the list goes on, and on, and on. Whatever happened to real research?

3) How easy it is to live in a fantasy land (like taking Aldous Huxley's population-relaxing drug 'Soma' in his classic work Brave New World). And how challenging it is to work hard, exercise critical thinking, and carefully study and examine hard evidence gathered by very courageous people who have put their lives at risk to inform us.

4) Much of what we've witnessed and experienced in recent years is the triumphant collective psy-op of well-paid and brilliant backstage minds who have been tasked to divert otherwise intelligent and aware people from realizing what is really going on.

5) Re a major clue (at least) to what's really going on, I'd recommend everyone to read these 57 pages:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

[Blueskywalking]

LOL, thanks for this. I'll let you avoid the irony of this for 72hrs, then you can have another crack.

I think I have a moderately palatable hat around here somewhere, just in case.

Your largesse is touching, thanks sport...
That's what I love about you guys hanging out here under the bridge, you keep tolerating poor, deluded, psyops fodder like myself. :)

[Anchor]

LOL, thanks for this. I'll let you avoid the irony of this for 72hrs, then you can have another crack.

I think I have a moderately palatable hat around here somewhere, just in case.

Your largesse is touching, thanks sport...
That's what I love about you guys hanging out here under the bridge, you keep tolerating poor, deluded, psyops fodder like myself. :)

No worries mate, if it all kicks off, I doubt we will see anything from around this side of the world.

[Aurelius]

food for thought ...

when one develops a new "capability" / "product", whatever the new "capability" / "product" might be .. you need to TEST it at some point in time, and this will often involve a number of test runs which are used to fine-tune things, optimise the desired result and ensure it generally does "what is written on the box".

Initial testing is typically done in a lab or simulated environment and eventually tests are conducted in the area where new the "capability" / "product" is intended to be used.

so let's consider come cases ...


imagine you were to put a technology system in place that is designed to (a) track the movement of information on the internet and (b) then control or suppress this information, then (c) identify key individuals that play in this space .. what might the "test" run look like? would you plant a fictitious event and then sit back watch it promulgate and then enjoy the fruits of your new capability ?


imagine you were messing with a new mind control technology designed to work on the masses .. what might this test case look like? what would the signs be to allow one to know what was really going on? clearly one would need to see signs of mind control right? ....

hope this provokes some useful thinking?

ie. even though Drake appears to be a farce .. I've come to learn even what appears to be silly / irrational / illogical .. often happens for valid reasons .. you just need to know what they are. and yes in some (most?) cases none of this applies .. ie. it's just fools infront of keyboards & microphones

[charlesgilbertwright]

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[truth4me]

wALNWwzERQ4hmm......interesting to say the least.Is this possible what Jim is saying or is it fear monging? Was the guy really that shook up or was it all an act? It's always good to keep your eyes open. Time will tell.........

[SilentFeathers]

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I'm genuinely delighted that all these very definite predictions have been so clearly and publicly circulated. Just maybe, by the end of next week, after all the lame excuses are offered, the Drake Machine may at last seize up and stop its destructive progress.

This is like NESARA, or Elenin, or 11-11-11, or the revaluation of the Dinar, on steroids.

When nothing happens, yet again, maybe this circus can pack up and leave town and those (including some members here who should really know better), who have been so hysterically distracting us from real issues, will at last get focused on reality.

Until then, SilentFeathers and I will be standing by to eat our pants and hat respectively; we'll be very happy to do so in the unlikely event that we're somehow mistaken. I'll now get back to some real work and real issues, and will rejoin this thread in a week's time. :)



I really don't think this Drake and Co thing is really as big as many are being led to believe it is. It's blown out of proportion on many levels in my opinion.

The last time I checked, I have more friends on Facebook than Drake does! lol! and I'm basically a nobody.....the only thing about this that is in "mass" anything, is the hysteria it has created.

...and once we again another date is set? How many times will it take? Hmmm?

Anyways, Happy 4th of July everyone, "rumor" has it that it'll be the best one ever!

[Avocadess]

Here is a link to the last portion of Drake's radio show last night which was not aired live but which recording was made available after the show, as Kimberley had explained. Very interesting -- especially with talk about ETs and a final confirmation of GREENLIGHT:

http://www.spirit.kauwila.net/wordpress_kauilapele/120627_Drake_show_pt7_3414927.mp3

OR

http://alturl.com/o4faj

Wishing you the best day EVER...!!!

Avocadess

(Thanks to Promezeus for the above link to the end of the show.)

[Unified Serenity]

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I'm genuinely delighted that all these very definite predictions have been so clearly and publicly circulated. Just maybe, by the end of next week, after all the lame excuses are offered, the Drake Machine may at last seize up and stop its destructive progress.

This is like NESARA, or Elenin, or 11-11-11, or the revaluation of the Dinar, on steroids.

When nothing happens, yet again, maybe this circus can pack up and leave town and those (including some members here who should really know better), who have been so hysterically distracting us from real issues, will at last get focused on reality.

Until then, SilentFeathers and I will be standing by to eat our pants and hat respectively; we'll be very happy to do so in the unlikely event that we're somehow mistaken. I'll now get back to some real work and real issues, and will rejoin this thread in a week's time. :)



I really don't think this Drake and Co thing is really as big as many are being led to believe it is. It's blown out of proportion on many levels in my opinion.

The last time I checked, I have more friends on Facebook than Drake does! lol! and I'm basically a nobody.....the only thing about this that is in "mass" anything, is the hysteria it has created.

...and once we again another date is set? How many times will it take? Hmmm?

Anyways, Happy 4th of July everyone, "rumor" has it that it'll be the best one ever!

Farmville and mousehunt friends don't count :p

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Beep Beep Beep ... your show will continue momentarily

Anyone in North Florida, South Georgia or Alabama near Tallahassee who wants to work on real solutions as we enter this new phase of things, please pm me. I think it's high time we stop the circle jerk and start working closely together starting with a meet n greet, cook out, and get to know one another because the ptb are pushing things forward based on the latest SCOTUS decision and revolution pushing in this thread.

Thanks for your attention, now back to the regular show.

[Chuck]

so let's consider come cases ...


imagine you were to put a technology system in place that is designed to (a) track the movement of information on the internet and (b) then control or suppress this information, then (c) identify key individuals that play in this space .. what might the "test" run look like? would you plant a fictitious event and then sit back watch it promulgate and then enjoy the fruits of your new capability ?



Aurelius, you might not be too far from the actual fact. Here is some more information along that line of thinking. Here Nicholas Christakis talks about how social contagions can be and are tracked. No question that Avalon is a known network grid node point for the alternative media.


http://www.ted.com/talks/nicholas_christakis_how_social_networks_predict_ep idemics.html

[9eagle9]

Aye, the blind leading the deaf....

....then the rats watching them blunder around in the maze looking for the cheese that isn't there.








so let's consider come cases ...


imagine you were to put a technology system in place that is designed to (a) track the movement of information on the internet and (b) then control or suppress this information, then (c) identify key individuals that play in this space .. what might the "test" run look like? would you plant a fictitious event and then sit back watch it promulgate and then enjoy the fruits of your new capability ?



Aurelius, you might not be too far from the actual fact. Here is some more information along that line of thinking. Here Nicholas Christakis talks about how social contagions can be and are tracked. No question that Avalon is a known network grid node point for the alternative media.


http://www.ted.com/talks/nicholas_christakis_how_social_networks_predict_ep idemics.html

[the_vast_mystery]

Well I for one am happy that Drake is putting his money where his mouth is with the green light. Ishtar, thank you I never thought about the Gold/silver angle and that may in fact be it. This new "Golden Age" could in fact be a sort of economic coup where the Gold Bugs (those heavily invested in Gold and other precious metals) may replace the current central banking system. I've always worried very much about returning to a Gold standard due to the static nature of the Gold supply and how everyone who was pushing Gold for a long time seemed to be involved in some sort of con. Rather than experiment with new alternatives in currency everyone's been whipped up into a frenzy to "Go back to the good 'ol days of sound moneys!" by these same people who have invested heavily in gold.

Interestingly enough though it seems the people pushing for Gold the most always have this authoritarian bent to them. I think Gold companies were some of the only advertisers to stick with Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh during the heights of their unpopularity for instance. But if Occupy is worth it's salt, it should be able to act as an antibody to any attempt to create a panic. We're going on almost one year now with a lot of organized nonviolent resistance. So with a little luck even if Drake does start a panic, a little strategic intervention from Occupy can channel that rage into nonviolent and more productive outlets once people start massing in the streets.

Now because I feel like being poetic: "By the fourth of July, laugh or cry, we'll finally see who's been honest and who's telling lies. I look forward to that day, see you all on the other side." ;)

[9eagle9]

My take is ....no one has taken any gold from me. The PTB isn't holding something that is mine. I never had a metric ton of gold under my mattress that was stolen from me.

If they are going to return the gold to the place where it belongs, that would be the earth.

I have a gold chain, a gold bracelet, a gold bangle, a few rings and other items I seldom wear or even remember sometimes that I have, and if that needs to be returned to the chasm from whence it came I'm good for it. Money whatever, no one has ever taken anything from me without my agreement (taxes, insurance, etc). I have made those agreements and I know that. Any time I can just say....okay I'm not agreeing anymore.

My mono-atomic gold is another matter (laff)

[crosby]

i have my doubts about more than just what is happening in this thread and with the drake material. which is why i do not post as often as i used to, however, i do see an error here that should be corrected. in Ishtar's post #2562 she stated:

"Last night, Applecrusher gave the green light even before Drake did... blowing any illusion we might have had that he/she is just a regular forum member like the rest of us." hmmmmm. i heard drake give the green light at the same time and thought about posting it myself, but, decided not to get tossed into the salad. i've noticed that even the slightest statements or comments are then contrived into enormous mountains of 'truth or dare'. and then a minute later, i noticed applecrusher's post.

i have been reticent of this material from the beginning because i just do not see anything happening. but i do sit back and watch, which is what i will be doing for the next couple of days. but i think we need to be careful that we are not accusing other members of tom foolery if we don't truly know this.

not trying to keep up the mayhem, just pointing something worthy out.
regards, corson

[9eagle9]

4 July will progress as it usually does....day off. "Oh **** I forgot to celebrate our nation's freedom....because....we didn't have any to celebrate in my lifetime to begin with in the first place"

Any wonder I forget?

But it is good day to reflect on what freedom really REALLY means. Most likely as usual having no obligations to the entirely stupid ----I relish my freedom from that.... that day I would celebrate my own freedom.

You have to love freedom.LOVE it.

Crave it.

Relish the challenge of it.

Ultimately the core essence of Love is Freedom. You have to love not having the right job, the right curtains in the window. You have to love having the ****tiest loudest truck on the road, that is so old that you have no payment on it and no one cares if its insured or not because it is just not that important anymore .. . to anyone. Even your belongings have no attachments to it. Even knowing what you are attached to, and having honest admission of it, makes you free. If it's really yours no one or nothing can take it away. Being ready to lose it all and then knowing you can build it all back again in a different way is freedom.

Not being safe in how you live but living anyway. LIVING, not going through the motions of living.

Safe is existing and that's not hard to do. I've done it. It's not hard to do.

Being free is hard but its FREE for the taking. Its like the shopper dragging around five bags of purchased goods, they are tired, worn out, and the obvious thing is to set the bags down. How attached to what's in the bags is going to make the difference between living and freedom.

stressed about your mortgage , get rid of it. If you don't own anything no one can take it from you. That's freedom.

Love and Freedom.REAL Love and REAL Freedom. Sometimes at the end of the month I'm a little short of rent, and when I reveal this to some they shrug and say " that's okay, lose it all, i want you to come live with me because you are more valuable here then there anyway".

that's freedom. We get attached to independence thinking its freedom and there's a measure of independence in there but there's an equal measure of inter-dependence.

Not afraid to be independent,not afraid to be interdependent (on the right people of course who are in alignment with the pursuit of freedom) but not afraid to love. Or be loved.
Freedom isn't security though. In the US they are two polar opposites. You can have security or you can have freedom as the 'terrorist' kerfluffle has made us give up what few freedoms we had left.

Freedom isn't security, or being safe, or knowing how much you will make one day, one week, one month. Or where you will be, or who you will be, or what you will have or where you will end up at. Or who likes you. It means untethered from all the attachment **** of how things should be . You should be able to set someone/ something free ....without pain. With pain freedom isn't present.

Seeing you are sick and can fix it without anyone's outside intervention is freedom.. Being stuck in a hard place, and having an apparent miracle happen. Being stuck in a hard place and always having it dissolve by realizing its not a hard place after all is freedom. Being challenged with thorny situations that you overcome shows just how much inner resource you have. Freedom is being .. I don't know where its coming from I just KNOW it's coming and it always does perhaps not from the place we'd 'think' it would come from. Not taking yourself so seriously is freedom.

Freedom for me is being on a horse that I know nothing about, hopping it on and riding it at at hard gate and knowing the only thing I need to do is get my arse out of the saddle....or don' take that horse there at all.

Freedom comes from inside of us and it's not a 'safe' place to be.








Well I for one am happy that Drake is putting his money where his mouth is with the green light. Ishtar, thank you I never thought about the Gold/silver angle and that may in fact be it. This new "Golden Age" could in fact be a sort of economic coup where the Gold Bugs (those heavily invested in Gold and other precious metals) may replace the current central banking system. I've always worried very much about returning to a Gold standard due to the static nature of the Gold supply and how everyone who was pushing Gold for a long time seemed to be involved in some sort of con. Rather than experiment with new alternatives in currency everyone's been whipped up into a frenzy to "Go back to the good 'ol days of sound moneys!" by these same people who have invested heavily in gold.

Interestingly enough though it seems the people pushing for Gold the most always have this authoritarian bent to them. I think Gold companies were some of the only advertisers to stick with Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh during the heights of their unpopularity for instance. But if Occupy is worth it's salt, it should be able to act as an antibody to any attempt to create a panic. We're going on almost one year now with a lot of organized nonviolent resistance. So with a little luck even if Drake does start a panic, a little strategic intervention from Occupy can channel that rage into nonviolent and more productive outlets once people start massing in the streets.

Now because I feel like being poetic: "By the fourth of July, laugh or cry, we'll finally see who's been honest and who's telling lies. I look forward to that day, see you all on the other side." ;)

[Ishtar]

I apologise to applecrusher if I was wrong that he/she announced the green light before Drake. I was reading what happened in retrospect, the next day, as it was way past my bedtime when all this went down. I read this first, which does sound like an announcement, not just a report.


Green Light has been given. The event will occur this week within 72 hours.

I repeat Green Light has been given.

By announcement, I mean you didn't give it any context, applecrusher ... like, for instance,

"Drake just said that the green light has been given and that the event will take place within 72 hours."

It was as if you were giving the green light yourself. To me. That's how it read.

And then next comes this from Avocadess.


applecrusher92: I didn't hear Green Light. Did that happen right after the break or are you joking?!!

Wow. Drake said Alex Jones will be one of the people letting people know what is going on.

I think the show just went "dead." Can anyone else hear it?!

Okay. I can hear it again...

YES, Drake just confirmed that he WILL be posting GREENLIGHT right after this program...!!!!!!

So it sounded to me as if Drake had been asked the question and he confirmed that yes, he will posting the green light after this programme.

But perhaps there was something that happened in between those two events, and that Drake was only confirming something he'd already announced. I wouldn't know because I was trying to glean what happened in retrospect from the posts.

If I am at fault, once again, I apologise.

[9eagle9]

Hmm....

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

should we apologize for things that are not real in the first place....?

Hmmmmmmm......

I am guessing ........

no.

[Ishtar]

Hmm....

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

should we apologize for things that are not real in the first place....?

Hmmmmmmm......

I am guessing ........

no.

I think I should apologise if I've accused someone wrongly, 9eagle9.

[Unified Serenity]

Hmm....

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

should we apologize for things that are not real in the first place....?

Hmmmmmmm......

I am guessing ........

no.

I think I should apologise if I've accused someone wrongly, 9eagle9.

Yes your should, no you shouldn't, yes you should. Follow your heart, but people on the Drake side seem to be a wee tad over sensitive. We can't even be allowed to read their ambiguous posts without having to apologize, but let's keep the peace and show we can be civil even if some of them have a much harder time returning the favor. I know..... "STFU" I can hear the thoughts already.

[Ishtar]

Hmm....

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

should we apologize for things that are not real in the first place....?

Hmmmmmmm......

I am guessing ........

no.

I think I should apologise if I've accused someone wrongly, 9eagle9.

Yes your should, no you shouldn't, yes you should. Follow your heart, but people on the Drake side seem to be a wee tad over sensitive. We can't even be allowed to read their ambiguous posts without having to apologize, but let's keep the peace and show we can be civil even if some of them have a much harder time returning the favor. I know..... "STFU" I can hear the thoughts already.


Well, we have an expression over here ~ "It's no skin off my nose."

Hope that doesn't get lost in translation!:yo:

[mattymoto]

After reading through these 130 pages I now feel that if there is to be a "thanks" button I would ask that a "no thanks" button be inserted as well. That way we can pleasently disagree without people getting sore.

Remember opinions are like butts- we all have one, and some stink worse than others.

I will be lending my positive thoughts to the ending of the slavery of mankind. I would offer action but alas this body of mine has been compromised.

[foreverfan]

I'm still waiting for Shock and Awe.

Watched a hour of MSM and didn't see a word about this.... typical.


Ron Paul’s Federal Reserve Audit Approved by House Committee
By Stephen C. Webster, Raw Story – June 27, 2012

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/2...use-committee/

One of Rep. Ron Paul’s (R-TX) lifelong policy goals is on the brink of becoming a reality.

In a nearly unanimous voice vote on Wednesday, the House Oversight Committee approved a bill that would require the U.S. Federal Reserve to conduct a first-ever complete audit of its books and divulge details about its monetary policy discussions. The bill is expected to be taken up by the full House of Representatives sometime next month.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcwblvqir-s

[Kimberley]

****************

Just posted:
http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/06/green-light/

Much love!! :grouphug:




GREEN LIGHT
Posted on 06/28/2012

TO ALL:
It was expressed to me through ‘channels’ to state the following :


A - The Cavalry is coming.
B - If needed we will be contacted.
C - Sit back and watch the fireworks


There are two parts to this:


- First are the actions to be taken by our military in support of FREEDOM. This will be extraordinary in all ways. It does involve extremes in tacticalas well as logistical implementation. You may see some troop movement and supporting roles in public.
There may be minor delays in the usual traffic flows. The design is to make sure as much as possible is taken care of without problems.


- Second was the statement made that all of us are to be on full Alert. Engage drones and any troops under U.N. insignia. This is still in effect.
Be absolutely sure of your target. Do not engage our military.


IF needed our military will contact us. In the field this will be a couple of troops, an NCO, and an officer, lieutenant, captain, major, or colonel. They should be saying hello, or some other greeting, telling you they are there and want to talk.
Otherwise, sit back and watch the fireworks.
~~~~
I suggest we remain fully alert and vigilant just in case.

According to the information that has been given, we beat their time table. Plus it seems that our military has won its battle/argument internally, the good guys won and are now in charge.

The three items above are what was given to me to broadcast.

The last item was the call of GREEN LIGHT.

There are TWO green lights. One as stated about the above (tactical) and the other deals with financials. Two commands, both acting according to what was decided as the best way to handle both.

Each being as complicated as they are, separation of these two was the best tactical maneuver because of the acceleration or move up of our enemies’ plans of execution. This had been considered before, but left alone because both were to take place at the same time. Obviously that changed according to the enemy moving their plans ahead of their original schedule.

I was told that a tactical GREEN LIGHT was to be called if asked about it, and I did so. We are still waiting for the secondary GREEN LIGHT of finance. I look for this very soon.

Those who are experienced should be followed, as it is these people who demonstrate calm and cool under extremely intense situations. This can be anyone with this ability. Military personnel offer the ability to operate effectively under extremes and know how to offer the structure for success where any objective or mission is possible. Pay attention to them.

What we have before us is the awesome responsibility of freedom. Most have no idea as to the changes this will bring about at all levels, personal, social, and publicly. Everyone will discover that we all need each other, talents, professionally, and personally. Some hard places to get past are defined as race, creed (beliefs), and superiority.

I have never been prejudiced, as I didn’t see a lot of difference between people. Sure, some people are different looking than me, but, other than that, the person inside was the same. Most people I’ve ever gotten to know, all had their own personal beliefs, no matter what church they attended. A sort of peace made between a person and their belief in a superior entity.

Superiority is going to be directed by what a person is able to do. A specific talent should be respected in that the person who knows and works with it, should be given a superior respect within that area.

Due to the changes in operation and the outing of this information, it should be obvious that plans of any kind need to be fluid in order to remain viable. Just as a football play may be changed on the field, tactics change to maintain advantage. Bear in mind that this is our last chance and all of us need to make sure we win.

Thank you,

~ Drake

[foreverfan]

Drake's cat? Ok...this thread needed a little humor. :p

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MDH_aH-Qq6M/TVski3uu7vI/AAAAAAAAAbA/1ZvI-ITpIlo/s1600/funny-pictures-cat-is-trying-on-your-underwear.jpg

[Avocadess]

I found this part of Drake's statement today to be interesting:

"Second was the statement made that all of us are to be on full Alert. Engage drones and any troops under U.N. insignia. This is still in effect. Be absolutely sure of your target. Do not engage our military."

and also:

"According to the information that has been given, we beat their time table. Plus it seems that our military has won its battle/argument internally, the good guys won and are now in charge."

Last but certainly not least,

"There are TWO green lights.....We are still waiting for the secondary GREEN LIGHT of finance. I look for this very soon."

Meaning, by my understanding, that the usual money flow can be expected in most banks during this time. (I like that. All of it at once seems overwhelming.)

[Molope]

I found this part of Drake's statement today to be interesting:

"Second was the statement made that all of us are to be on full Alert. Engage drones and any troops under U.N. insignia. This is still in effect. Be absolutely sure of your target. Do not engage our military."

and also:

"According to the information that has been given, we beat their time table. Plus it seems that our military has won its battle/argument internally, the good guys won and are now in charge."

Last but certainly not least,

"There are TWO green lights.....We are still waiting for the secondary GREEN LIGHT of finance. I look for this very soon."

Meaning, by my understanding, that the usual money flow can be expected in most banks during this time. (I like that. All of it at once seems overwhelming.)
Before i give my honest opinion i have to say i respect what you say but i do want to discuss something here:
U.N. Troops usually are for peace keepers missions im not arguing about their High ranks and their intentions but at least it woud be nice that instead of shooting at sight the UN Troops i woud ask them to surrender at least....either that or thats gonna be a blood bath in which men from every continen will die on American shores and ofc the families of those UN soldiers that woud think that their husbands,brothers,sons or whathever went to a peace keeping mission Died in USA engaged by their militias or their army.Im pretty sure even if your cause is for a good cause or not that will create hate towards USA(AGAIN).So even if you destroy the cabal and free USA from Darkness it woud had to be paying whith death and blood.I wonder if were an ET and see another war for freedom i woud say:See? those humans doesnt know how to free themselves peacefully they only kill eachother AS ALWAYS.

Best wishes Molope.

[foreverfan]

This fact give me hope that the Military is on board with the overthrow of the corrupt Government/Cabal.

There is No Honor Among Thieves.

Maybe in the old Mafia but certainly not in the Cabal. The leaders of the Military have to know that soon they will be asked to disarm American citizens of their guns and Military leaders will have to live with the fact that they ordered soldiers to go kill American citizens... some of who will fight to the death. No doubt they will take Soldiers with them.

So have you ever seen a movie... you know where one bad guys kills/turns of the other robbers to keep all the money for himself or to protect himself from others telling the truth later? If I was in the Military, I'd be scared to death of this reality. There is no honor among thieves. Think of how many scientists have been killed for a lot less. Certainly the Cabal doesn't want former Military leaders feeling guilty later and coming out after the fact. They must be hushed at all costs. Military Leaders will be putting their families at great risk too.

So... If you was a Military Leader, would you make a deal with the devil? How willing would you be to send American Citizens and soldiers to their death to defend the Cabal knowing full will that they will try to cover their tracks? Doesn't it make since to take action now?

Common sense may just save the day.

[Avocadess]

This may seem off-topic, but to me it is on-topic as ET's have been acknowledged by Drake as being part of this whole plan for freeing humans around the globe.

ET message on this video claims that some of the Illuminati have been holding some "star beings" as prisoner and they ask for release of those prisoners and promise that they wll respond with a loving forgiveness.

(Thanks for turning me on to this video, Renee!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv47NyLZd4&feature=player_embedded#!

Overcoming fear is where it's at, Baby...!!! :cool:

[aranuk]

I found this part of Drake's statement today to be interesting:

"Second was the statement made that all of us are to be on full Alert. Engage drones and any troops under U.N. insignia. This is still in effect. Be absolutely sure of your target. Do not engage our military."

and also:

"According to the information that has been given, we beat their time table. Plus it seems that our military has won its battle/argument internally, the good guys won and are now in charge."

Last but certainly not least,

"There are TWO green lights.....We are still waiting for the secondary GREEN LIGHT of finance. I look for this very soon."

Meaning, by my understanding, that the usual money flow can be expected in most banks during this time. (I like that. All of it at once seems overwhelming.)
Before i give my honest opinion i have to say i respect what you say but i do want to discuss something here:
U.N. Troops usually are for peace keepers missions im not arguing about their High ranks and their intentions but at least it woud be nice that instead of shooting at sight the UN Troops i woud ask them to surrender at least....either that or thats gonna be a blood bath in which men from every continen will die on American shores and ofc the families of those UN soldiers that woud think that their husbands,brothers,sons or whathever went to a peace keeping mission Died in USA engaged by their militias or their army.Im pretty sure even if your cause is for a good cause or not that will create hate towards USA(AGAIN).So even if you destroy the cabal and free USA from Darkness it woud had to be paying whith death and blood.I wonder if were an ET and see another war for freedom i woud say:See? those humans doesnt know how to free themselves peacefully they only kill eachother AS ALWAYS.

Best wishes Molope.

Hi Molope, my suggestion is that you contact the UN and ask them what the heck they are playing at by sending troops to the US when the people's freedom is at stake. Tell them to remove their troops and get the hell out of there. They will not interfere.

Stan

[Avocadess]

Apparently COBRA takes issue with Drake declaring "GREEN LIGHT" status. On his blog today:

"Operation Omega Phoenix

"I have contacted my sources and this is what they said:

"The infiltration of the Positive Military group has been completely removed. The Positive Military is now ready for action. Also, the Resistance Movement and the Pleiadians are ready to back them up with their support.

"However, I did not receive direct confirmation for the Green Light or that the sweep period has already started. If the Positive Military wants to confirm the Green Light or if they want me to distribute any message to the public, they can contact me at cobraresistance@gmail.com .

"The Resistance Movement will have its own role in the Event and this is known under the codename Operation Omega Phoenix. This operation has two parts.

"The First part of Operation Omega Phoenix has just been declassified and I can speak a little bit about it. At the time of the Event, a certain number of Resistance operatives will emerge from their subterranean bases to the surface. They will be wearing plain civilian clothes and not military uniforms. They will closely monitor the mass arrest process and will help the Positive Military and civil authority in the arrests themselves when necessary. Members of the Cabal that will be arrested by the Resistance operatives will be taken to undisclosed locations and later released into the hands of Positive Military / civil authority. The only exception for this are a few members of the Cabal that have committed crimes beyond this planet in their past and must appear before the Galactic Court. Most of those will be later returned to Earth for humanity to determine their destiny, but a fraction of them will be taken to Galactic Central Sun immediately.

"Top people inside the Positive Military have been notified about Operation Omega Phoenix and they fully agree with it."

The above is from: http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/06/normal-0-microsoftinternetexplorer4_28.html

Another curiosity: Still no word from DAVID WILCOCK, although it was planned "back when" that he and Drake would be given word of the Green Light pretty much at the same time....

[Chester]

This may seem off-topic, but to me it is on-topic as ET's have been acknowledged by Drake as being part of this whole plan for freeing humans around the globe.

ET message on this video claims that some of the Illuminati have been holding some "star beings" as prisoner and they ask for release of those prisoners and promise that they wll respond with a loving forgiveness.

(Thanks for turning me on to this video, Renee!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv47NyLZd4&feature=player_embedded#!

Overcoming fear is where it's at, Baby...!!! :cool:

Note - this video is several months old but I can see the "hostage ET" situation to be the trading piece for there being "house arrests" only...

Hi All - I am beginning to read "we have won" stuff already. I can already see where this clown show is headed.

In the spirit of keeping things honest, I have been thinking about how would it be possible to independently verify that the cabal has been put out of business. I believe I have this one figured out.

Most of us are aware of the practice of some within the cabal (and some unwitting non aligned humans) of the practice of "human sacrifice." This is also considered to be "satanic ritual abuse." Some researchers consider there to be a link between this practice and some of the ETs (perhaps all we are aware of).

As it seems to be a human trait, in that we like to share our passions with others, there is a thread on this forum started by a source named Houman where Houman has been able to obtain quite horrific photos and videos of these very practices which apparently these practitioners enjoy sharing with each other and do so in internet sites and forums just like this one.

If indeed the plan succeeds and the evil cabal is put out of business and all the bad ETs are eliminated from being able to enter and/or influence Earth space and thus can no longer influence these humans who perform these practices, then there would be an obvious effect upon these forums as to any new content proliferation. This is clearly able to be monitored.

So if I begin to read declarations that "we have won" then I will be able to reasonably conclude or not that this is a fact or not via what should be an obvious drop in activity on these sites, specifically new photos and new videos.

This way we should be able to measure the actual reality when claims of victory begin to be the norm from this Drake, et al group of liberators of humanity.

[9eagle9]

It is as noted in the thread that Bill Ryan posted, and a few other threads that address this sort of thing, the blurring of the lines between aliens and ET's. Among other things. Quite deliberate, two entirely different things. As we share the cosmos with other species an ET would be quite a natural thing, regardless of what sort of purpose they were bent towards. Relative to us even. If it is relative to us we can RELATE to it.

An Alien is exactly what it means foreign, and unnatural.

People don't have the base line knowledge of knowing what is alien and what is naturally occurring.

In this forum there are no less than five threads that explore what is really ailing us....

1) How and the nature of how everyone got possessed (if you'd excuse the expression).
2) More importantly how to abate that.3) Why some are least conditional than others.

All very active threads occurring right now in the forum.

I suggest one explore the nature of what has occurred with us before leaping to conclusions about what is going to happen to us.

The 'we have won' statement is followed by ...'What did we do, personally, in order to win?" if we are not even aware of 1, 2, 3.



This may seem off-topic, but to me it is on-topic as ET's have been acknowledged by Drake as being part of this whole plan for freeing humans around the globe.

ET message on this video claims that some of the Illuminati have been holding some "star beings" as prisoner and they ask for release of those prisoners and promise that they wll respond with a loving forgiveness.

(Thanks for turning me on to this video, Renee!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbv47NyLZd4&feature=player_embedded#!

Overcoming fear is where it's at, Baby...!!! :cool:

Note - this video is several months old but I can see the "hostage ET" situation to be the trading piece for there being "house arrests" only...

Hi All - I am beginning to read "we have won" stuff already. I can already see where this clown show is headed.

In the spirit of keeping things honest, I have been thinking about how would it be possible to independently verify that the cabal has been put out of business. I believe I have this one figured out.

Most of us are aware of the practice of some within the cabal (and some unwitting non aligned humans) of the practice of "human sacrifice." This is also considered to be "satanic ritual abuse." Some researchers consider there to be a link between this practice and some of the ETs (perhaps all we are aware of).

As it seems to be a human trait, in that we like to share our passions with others, there is a thread on this forum started by a source named Houman where Houman has been able to obtain quite horrific photos and videos of these very practices which apparently these practitioners enjoy sharing with each other and do so in internet sites and forums just like this one.

If indeed the plan succeeds and the evil cabal is put out of business and all the bad ETs are eliminated from being able to enter and/or influence Earth space and thus can no longer influence these humans who perform these practices, then there would be an obvious effect upon these forums as to any new content proliferation. This is clearly able to be monitored.

So if I begin to read declarations that "we have won" then I will be able to reasonably conclude or not that this is a fact or not via what should be an obvious drop in activity on these sites, specifically new photos and new videos.

This way we should be able to measure the actual reality when claims of victory begin to be the norm from this Drake, et al group of liberators of humanity.

[truth4me]

well.....by Monday we will know.

[Avocadess]

Thanks, justoneman. I didn't even notice the date on that video -- and for me it was "new today."

:o

[Chester]

one reasonably informed view of various ETs (EBEs and "aliens")

http://www.yawp.com/3rd-i/rsrc/internal/e/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_BIOLOGICAL.html

and this list -

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicspecies.htm

and this list -

http://elitejaz.webs.com/listsofaliens.htm

and we have the list from Dr. Malanga's research (I will look for it again, but it is on Houman's thread)

a short list of the ones who apparently are most interactive with earth from a well respected researcher, Michael Salla

http://exopolitics.org/Report-ET-Motivations.htm

justoneman

[applecrusher1992]

Last night, Applecrusher gave the green light even before Drake did... blowing any illusion we might have had that he/she is just a regular forum member like the rest of us.



What you are saying is completely false and inaccurate. I actually reported the green light after he mentioned it after the first brake in the radio show. It could have been within a minute of the announcement but I wanted to beat
Avocadess to it because I thought it might make her happy. And it did :). To those of you who think I am part of the machine I am just a 20 year old kid named Karl from the United States trying to learn more about the world. I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. I am not trying to fool anyone. I will admit I may have been following the Drake news pretty heavily and maybe a bit too much but that doesn't make me part of the machine. And this event has helped me do some personal reflection lately as well. I am not being used or falling for a trap because like a lot of us here I too have been the victim of gullibility. I just hate it when people use sarcasm and make false accusations about people when they do something and I will not be silenced to my opinion in that manner. I had a busy of of non-Drake related stuff otherwise I probably would have responded to this false accusation sooner. If Drake fails boo hoo. If stuff happens like he says yippee!!! I don't want your money, your belief in me or anyone, your power, etc. I know very well the truth is within myself. Maybe I just have too much hope for a better future and humanity to awaken themselves. I feel so connected to others around me and love humanity so much I want all of us to be free and I want to take action to do so. I have been quite for too long and I am taking action in my own life to awaken people around me. Is this an honest enough answer for you? If this doesn't make me a " regular forum member like the rest of us " I am sorry to hear that. PM me if you have any other questions or post it on the forum.

Karl

UPDATE:

I see the apology and I am sorry for not reading it sooner. I read from older to earlier post and I usually read them all before I make a comment. But I just got mad and replied too soon.







When nothing happens, yet again, maybe this circus can pack up and leave town and those (including some members here who should really know better), who have been so hysterically distracting us from real issues, will at last get focused on reality.



Bill

Is this comment directed toward me? This is your forum. If you want me to leave I will at your request. You may think me cynical but frankly I am just following my heart and what I should right now. And also what do you mean by "real" issues ? And how is this distracting to those who don't wish to come here on a free basis? The issues people deal with may be completely different. Each person has his/her own issues to deal with and frankly to me this is a "real" issue. Maybe one that is based on a false promises but a issue nonetheless. And one I have both hope and criticism for. So let us continue the discuss as it is. I await your reply.

Karl

[Chester]

From an important thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit


I find that our tendency is to become distracted by the entertainment aspect of Ufology, rather than the spiritual-mental evolutionary implications of what befalls us with this alien interference. We love to dance in the distractions, but this diverts our own awareness regarding the power of our innate divinity. I believe the ancient Gnostics were well aware of this “Archontic Control” over humanity. (aka–”The Hypostasis of the Archons or Reality of the Rulers”, (II,4) Tractate in the Nag Hammadi Library) The Gnostics, in their wisdom they tell of what the signature of the Archons is: envy. This was the key human failing that makes us more vulnerable to their intrusion. But they did not leave us without hope for a solution. If we take on the protection of the Light, and rid ourselves of jealousy, then we enter the bridal chamber. (Lash’s Alien Dreaming article, excerpt from quote regarding Dialogue of the Savior, NHC III, 5 (85)

Could the humans involved with the Satanic New World Order be hosted by this same black shadow Horus-Ra energy? Is this what the Archontic influence truly is—and what the ancient Gnostics warned us about?

It is my opinion that the core issue amongst 3D humanity on earth is founded in the practice of human sacrifice and that some ET groups are intimately involved. And that some of the "cabal" are heavily involved as well in this practice. And that some within the cabal are actively working with these non terrestrial practitioners.

There are many respected posters on this forum that share this opinion.

If claims are made that the cabal has been defeated then the amount of satanic ritual abuse should go way, way down if not be completely eliminated.

And we can monitor if this is or is not the case.

justoneman

[Chester]

Applecrusher1992 - Ishtar apologized and explained how she made the potential error.

[NancyV]

Apparently COBRA takes issue with Drake declaring "GREEN LIGHT" status. On his blog today:

"Operation Omega Phoenix

"I have contacted my sources and this is what they said:

"The infiltration of the Positive Military group has been completely removed. The Positive Military is now ready for action. Also, the Resistance Movement and the Pleiadians are ready to back them up with their support.

"However, I did not receive direct confirmation for the Green Light or that the sweep period has already started. If the Positive Military wants to confirm the Green Light or if they want me to distribute any message to the public, they can contact me at cobraresistance@gmail.com .

"The Resistance Movement will have its own role in the Event and this is known under the codename Operation Omega Phoenix. This operation has two parts.

It's kind of ironic that they name their project after the Omega Teams of Project Phoenix which were teams of basically assassins who were loosely under the control of the CIA and sent into Vietnam in 1971 and '72. My husband will get a big laugh out of this since he was in the original Omega Teams. Actually I'm sure he'll call these idiots all kinds of not so nice names.

When I mentioned the green light to him today and all the neat stuff that was going to happen with the ET's rounding up and killing the PTB and the military being ready to overthrow the government, the militias ready for revolution and the new age groups helping with meditation and holding the light and love while the bad guys were being murdered, etc etc... he just looked at me in amazement and asked if I REALLY spent more than a few seconds looking at this crap! He also mentioned a few choice words about the people who were putting out this ridiculous stuff. We don't even think it's good enough to make into a decent science fiction/fantasy movie. It's just too stupid.

[Anchor]

To those of you who think I am part of the machine I am just a 20 year old kid named Karl from the United States trying to learn more about the world. I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. I am not trying to fool anyone. I will admit I may have been following the Drake news pretty heavily and maybe a bit too much but that doesn't make me part of the machine. And this event has helped me do some personal reflection lately as well. I am not being used or falling for a trap because like a lot of us here I too have been the victim of gullibility. I just hate it when people use sarcasm and make false accusations about people when they do something and I will not be silenced to my opinion in that manner. I had a busy of of non-Drake related stuff otherwise I probably would have responded to this false accusation sooner. If Drake fails boo hoo. If stuff happens like he says yippee!!! I don't want your money, your belief in me or anyone, your power, etc. I know very well the truth is within myself. Maybe I just have too much hope for a better future and humanity to awaken themselves. I feel so connected to others around me and love humanity so much I want all of us to be free and I want to take action to do so. I have been quite for too long and I am taking action in my own life to awaken people around me.

*bows*

Great rant, and nicely said.

I highlighted some parts that pinged out at me.

I don't think you have too much hope - at all.

[Zencat]

Apparently COBRA takes issue with Drake declaring "GREEN LIGHT" status. On his blog today:

"Operation Omega Phoenix

"I have contacted my sources and this is what they said:

"The infiltration of the Positive Military group has been completely removed. The Positive Military is now ready for action. Also, the Resistance Movement and the Pleiadians are ready to back them up with their support.

"However, I did not receive direct confirmation for the Green Light or that the sweep period has already started. If the Positive Military wants to confirm the Green Light or if they want me to distribute any message to the public, they can contact me at cobraresistance@gmail.com .

"The Resistance Movement will have its own role in the Event and this is known under the codename Operation Omega Phoenix. This operation has two parts.

It's kind of ironic that they name their project after the Omega Teams of Project Phoenix which were teams of basically assassins who were loosely under the control of the CIA and sent into Vietnam in 1971 and '72. My husband will get a big laugh out of this since he was in the original Omega Teams. Actually I'm sure he'll call these idiots all kinds of not so nice names.

When I mentioned the green light to him today and all the neat stuff that was going to happen with the ET's rounding up and killing the PTB and the military being ready to overthrow the government, the militias ready for revolution and the new age groups helping with meditation and holding the light and love while the bad guys were being murdered, etc etc... he just looked at me in amazement and asked if I REALLY spent more than a few seconds looking at this crap! He also mentioned a few choice words about the people who were putting out this ridiculous stuff. We don't even think it's good enough to make into a decent science fiction/fantasy movie. It's just too stupid.

Nancy, I had the same response from my son .... :(

Drake's Facebook page 'The Global Voice' has some bizarre conversation going on ... you really can't make this stuff up.

This article from yesterday from The Critical Post - Chicago (which I don't believe has been posted before) refers to it but also gives an excellent overall framework and background to the whole saga.

http://thecritical-post.com/blog/2012/06/the-rumor-of-a-military-takeover-of-the-united-states-is-outed-by-mr-drake-bailey-on-global-voice-2012-radio-show-this-evening-the-green-light-is-given-wednesday-27-june-2012-blogtalk-episode-emb/

It's not MSM, but I'd call it MSM Lite .... :)

[gripreaper]

And not even one slight mention of a Constitutional Convention, the only LAWFUL redress of grievances...

[Alie]

The entire 131 pages of this thread can be summed up below in the painting.

WHERE DO YOU STAND?

http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mcnaughtonempowered.jpg

* Edit Allow me to dedicate this post to Applecrusher1992

This image was taken from The Ulsterman Report ... (http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/29/wall-street-insider-liberte-egalite-fraternite/)

Washington Insider has spoken about Obama Care from his Hospital Bed.

Excerpt:
“To my dying breath I will not go quietly into that good night. For so long as my heart beats and my mind remains aware enough to contemplate and execute strategy both near and far, I fight on. I fight hard. I fight, as always, to win. But this time, I fight for a cause far greater than my own self interest. In this I have finally learned what it is to serve others. An old dog has learned, albeit much too late, a new trick.” -WSI

[9eagle9]

Hmmm....I love humanity so much I'd like for them not to be so...what's the word I'm looking for...?

Dumb?




To those of you who think I am part of the machine I am just a 20 year old kid named Karl from the United States trying to learn more about the world. I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. I am not trying to fool anyone. I will admit I may have been following the Drake news pretty heavily and maybe a bit too much but that doesn't make me part of the machine. And this event has helped me do some personal reflection lately as well. I am not being used or falling for a trap because like a lot of us here I too have been the victim of gullibility. I just hate it when people use sarcasm and make false accusations about people when they do something and I will not be silenced to my opinion in that manner. I had a busy of of non-Drake related stuff otherwise I probably would have responded to this false accusation sooner. If Drake fails boo hoo. If stuff happens like he says yippee!!! I don't want your money, your belief in me or anyone, your power, etc. I know very well the truth is within myself. Maybe I just have too much hope for a better future and humanity to awaken themselves. I feel so connected to others around me and love humanity so much I want all of us to be free and I want to take action to do so. I have been quite for too long and I am taking action in my own life to awaken people around me.

*bows*

Great rant, and nicely said.

I highlighted some parts that pinged out at me.

I don't think you have too much hope - at all.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill

Is this comment directed toward me? This is your forum. If you want me to leave I will at your request. You may think me cynical but frankly I am just following my heart and what I should right now. And also what do you mean by "real" issues ? And how is this distracting to those who don't wish to come here on a free basis? The issues people deal with may be completely different. Each person has his/her own issues to deal with and frankly to me this is a "real" issue. Maybe one that is based on a false promises but a issue nonetheless. And one I have both hope and criticism for. So let us continue the discuss as it is. I await your reply.

Karl

Hi, Karl -- no this is is not personal at all. I respect all views. You are here on the forum because we liked and welcomed you here.

But I have a duty and a responsibility to call nonsense where I see it (and there's been a huge amount of nonsense in the alternative media over the last 12 months). It's my job. I'm an alternative media investigator, but I'm also a teacher and a guide.

You asked me what the real issues are. They include (but are by no means limited to):

-- Coming solar events that may well compromise electronic components and the communications/power grid. (Current estimates of timing, as best I know and have been told, are this coming December-January, and maybe in the months following in the first half of 2013.) This has been anticipated for many years. I was advised by a scientist with a Top Secret clearance, name known and supplied, to "either get a lot of sunblock or, better still, go underground".

-- A financial event (or abruptly deteriorating economic situation: like a financial earthquake or tsunami) in the coming few months -- before the US election -- that will result in the devaluation of the US dollar and rapid inflation in all food, fuel, goods and services in the US. (Possible violent domestic reaction to this is what Doug Hagmann has been talking about. There could be a lot of civil unrest if the transition to a lower value dollar is not smooth. It's quite possible that the USG might not WANT it to be smooth, in order to justify round-up action against the militias.)

-- Poverty, pollution, extinction of species, disruption of weather patterns, destruction of the rain forest, chemtrails, radiation (Fukushima is a desperately serious, totally unsolved problem)... what more do I need to say?

-- As Justoneman correctly states, there is a considerable and almost unconfrontable backstage and hidden continuing practice of satanic ritual abuse and sacrifice that fuels and empowers demonic agendas connected with all the above. We're in big trouble on Planet Earth (and have been for several thousand years) -- and only mass awakening and awareness, with the engagement of the mainstream media, will really turn the tide.

-- People are waking up, and there are changes, but not nearly enough yet. If we win all this, it may take several committed generations to clean up the immense mess. Much of the nonsense in the alternative media (Elenin, 11-11-11, Ascension as in some kind of coming galactic rapture, the Galactic Federation of Light and Mike Quinsey's other delusions (there are benevolent ETs, but they don't operate like that!), so-called, much-hoped-for but never-actually-occurring "mass arrests", and now the ridiculous Drake circus) serves to provide damaging and destructive false hope, to which many have recently become addicted.

Hanging on to delusional false hope is way easier than confronting the truth, and functions like a kind of opiate that disempowers otherwise intelligent, aware and able people -- like yourself.

Realize that what I'm saying here is a compliment... not an insult. I'm just explaining what's going on. You are very able indeed -- otherwise we'd not be having this conversation! -- but you, and some others, are backing the wrong horses here.

[mattymoto]

Why all the doom Bill? Is there nothing to be hopeful for?

I remember a time when it was ok to have hope- false or not.

I have an chronic disease that causes me severe pain and morbidity. Does that mean I should give up hope of ever finding the cure?

It's ok to take one person's words as true on faith, but then it is silly to take another's.

Forgive me if my lack of understanding is coming from ignorance.

I want hope, and where I find it is every bit as valid as the next source of rubbish.

As soon as we all can shed our prejudices of belief and doubt- this is in my opinion would be the start of our first steps into advanced maturity.

[Bill Ryan]

----

And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

All that farmer wants is to stay in business. He doesn't feel compassion for any cows that suffer, are sick, or go to the slaughterhouse. That's not the game he's playing. His goal is completely different.

This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

[Sebastion]

Bring it on as soon as you can Bill as I am most interested!




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And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their commitment is to protect (and manage/control) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty well as much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a large herd.

This is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

[RMorgan]

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.


Hey Bill,

I can´t wait to see the data and presentation.

If you´re correct, it will prove my thesis that 99% of what is spread in the alternative media is exactly the contrary of what really is supposed to happen, because that´s what I think the alternative media is nowadays; a 180° diversion; an illusionist trick.

I promise to use all my analytic capacity to either make your points stronger or to find eventual flaws in them.

This is a very serious scenario.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Molope]

----

And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their commitment is to protect (and manage/control) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty well as much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a large herd.

This is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

Im highly interested to know more about that.Im seriously afraid of what have you said because if the Elites are fleeing that means we are going nuts and thats a big problem we MUST resolve this all of us together...

[Hervé]

It is my opinion that the core issue amongst 3D humanity on earth is founded in the practice of human sacrifice and that some ET groups are intimately involved. And that some of the "cabal" are heavily involved as well in this practice. And that some within the cabal are actively working with these non terrestrial practitioners.

There are many respected posters on this forum that share this opinion.

If claims are made that the cabal has been defeated then the amount of satanic ritual abuse should go way, way down if not be completely eliminated.

And we can monitor if this is or is not the case.

justoneman


[...]

-- As Justoneman correctly states, there is a considerable and almost unconfrontable backstage and hidden continuing practice of satanic ritual abuse and sacrifice that fuels and empowers demonic agendas connected with all the above. We're in big trouble on Planet Earth (and have been for several thousand years) -- and only mass awakening and awareness, with the engagement of the mainstream media, will really turn the tide.

[...]


----

And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their commitment is to protect (and manage/control) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty well as much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a large herd.

This is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

Sometimes it may be difficult to grasp the SCALE that these sacrificial rituals do take...

Check this thread: RMS Titanic was in fact the RMS Olympic - Insurance fraud by JP Morgan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46847-RMS-Titanic-was-in-fact-the-RMS-Olympic-Insurance-fraud-by-JP-Morgan)

Holodomore...

Dresden...

Hiroshima-Nagasaki long after Japan stated a surrender...

9-11...

Irak-Afghanistan and attendant tortures

About the mindset behind these things:


As I said before, Skull and Bones, the Rockefeller Family and the Illuminati in general worship death and believe that the gods they worship are pleased by it. They believe that their gods grant them favors, such as wealth, in proportion to how well they provide fear, anger, and ritual human sacrifices for them to feed off of. This is standard Aztec human sacrifice kind of magical thinking. Never mind that the Aztecs, the Druids, and Incans, that practiced such human sacrifices were ultimately unsuccessful as societies. They still appealed to the Pirates of Skull and Bones and the pseudo-mystical Illuminati. These people are not scientists. They do not have the patience for. They just want to rape and plunder populations without having to think too much about it.

Later I had a discussion with David Rockefeller over this Illuminati intended genocide of most of the planet’s population. That was shortly after Tenet resigned from the CIA but had not yet been replaced. So, McLaughlin was acting Director of CIA. And I had accompanied him to a Washington DC evening meeting at which David Rockefeller was present. After the meeting, McLaughlin and Rockefeller had a private meeting in which I was present mainly as a note taker. But since it touched on the expansion of the US BioWarfare programs, I was unable to keep my mouth firmly shut. Thus, I objected to the expansion and said so in no uncertain terms. Rockefeller accused me of subverting his plans to “purge the world of its shaff.” I said “Other people are not disposable coverings of grain”. He said, “Of course, they are. They are as unnecessary to this planet as extra bolts in a factory which is done making the equipment. There is nothing left to do with them than throw them out when one is done with their usefulness.” I bristled at that. McLaughlin tried to change the subject to defuse the situation. Rockefeller then said something that I did not expect. He said, “Don’t worry. I will have statues made of me that look like Christ so you can still have something to worship.” I was so shocked that I dropped the subject.

[...]

Later, I found that not only had David Rockefeller commissioned bronzes of people jumping out of the WTC on 911, but he had commissioned bronzes of himself which looked like religious statues to worship. Because I found photos of them inside the CIA’s David Rockefeller Audio-Visual Center, I took them down to the CIA’s photo ID dept. I asked about 10 people in that dept. who the person represented in the statue was. The statue was textured on the face making it unclear whether the figure was bearded or not. Three of them said Rockefeller, though one of those said Nelson, not David. Most said a saint and two of them said, “Jesus”. That is how well the sculptor accomplished David Rockefeller’s wish to be immortalized as a Christ like figure while planning genocide to kill off 5.5 billion people!
(from: "case 26: Your sickness and Genocide Planned in the USA" by whistleblower Sue Ann Arrigo (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/))


As for the reason behind the commissionning of people jumping off these towers:


A Robber Baron’s Delight in the Suffering of Others—1929 Stock Market Crash

Nelson Rockefeller used to brag to me that John D. Rockefeller caused the 1929 stock market collapse. It ruined his competitors, the smaller investor who were caught by surprise when it happened. He said that this forefather of his was delighted by the sight of his business rivals jumping out of Wall Street buildings to their deaths. He had told Nelson how much he enjoyed that and wanted to repeat that highlight of his life again. It was his dying request that it get repeated. This was something that Nelson told me many times, almost every time Helms sent me over to see him.

After 9-11, the Rockefellers made life-sized bronze statues of the people jumping out of the WTC as they fell to their deaths. They put them on public display in NY. The public outcry against the callous disregard of the victim’s families required them to remove them. The businessmen in the WTC towers were not the ultra wealth Robber Barons that could afford their own buildings. They were the international competitors of them. Perhaps the Rockefeller family thought the similarity of the events, both occurring near the NY Stock Exchange was sufficient to fulfill that death-bed wish of their extremely wealthy ancestor.
(From: Case 22A: Were the US Troops Fed Poisonous Beverages on Purpose? http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0) )

[Christine]

Why all the doom Bill? Is there nothing to be hopeful for?

I remember a time when it was ok to have hope- false or not.

I have an chronic disease that causes me severe pain and morbidity. Does that mean I should give up hope of ever finding the cure?

It's ok to take one person's words as true on faith, but then it is silly to take another's.

Forgive me if my lack of understanding is coming from ignorance.

I want hope, and where I find it is every bit as valid as the next source of rubbish.

As soon as we all can shed our prejudices of belief and doubt- this is in my opinion would be the start of our first steps into advanced maturity.

Dear Mattymoto,

I hear your voice – for years I believed in hope as our eternal savior… indeed imbedded in the NWO agenda is to continuously hold the carrot of hope right before our eyes.

For years I clung to hope, I felt that if I stopped hoping all was lost. I now view this differently. Hope is nothing, only illusion of something in the future that brings us comfort, happiness, wealth, peace, health, basically whatever it is we are hoping for is an indicator as to what we lack in the particular moment we cling to hope.

It is the life raft that never arrives, it is eternal and non existent.

So what to do becomes the viable question. In regards to your health it would be to investigate all alternatives, change of diet, meditation, clearing work of past life cause, etc. By no means am I saying you haven’t done any of these things and in many cases illness will be the largest challenges a person has to deal with. To recover from a serious illness requires courage, fortitude and absence of all doubt that the cure is available.

But to blindly hope without investigating where the information is coming from, to not use our intelligence, our intuition, and our experience is counter productive in my opinion. Hope alone will do nothing but divert attention from the very thing that could make a difference.

This is my offering, food for thought, not a dictate. The evolution of ourselves as spiritual beings is not based on hope, but hard work, courage to confront and commitment to truth, these are the tools of a spiritual warrior.

La Tigra

[Referee]

I am very much awaiting your work on this subject. Bill why would Drake do this if not true what is their angle? Money, Disinfo, Personality Disorder? Do you have any intel on this Drake guy who is he really.

Kind Regards,

Kevin

[mattymoto]

First let me thank you La Tigra for hearing my voice.

I chose to be here, and knew what my circumstances would be. I am not here for me, or to right a wrong from my otherness. It just so happens that I get to experience and learn a lesson about my own spirit by being here. (I was fortunate enough to have a brief contact with an entity that informed me that without this illness I would most certainly die before I was able to complete my goal in this life- I wasn't told what that goal is but I was reassured that I would remember when the time was appropriate.)

Meditation has been a positive influence for me and I would suggest it's practice to everyone- even if you are currently healthy.

This incarnation is very difficult, but in the end we get to do something that is truly glorious.

IMHO, whether we believe or doubt what Drake has been saying is not the point. We know what the problems are. We know what the solution is.


A Donut with poo on it is still a Donut. A life riddled with disease is still a life.

I have love for all of you even if we disagree.

[doodah]

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... I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Wow, Bill, the controllers may be preparing to leave the planet because there is no reasonable hope of salvage?

Does this mean controllers as in Anunnaki? The word from various specious sources is that they've already left the planet. Are these the ones Bob Dean says are walking the halls of the Pentagon? Are they still walking there?

Or are these controllers as in the other-dimensional beings mentioned by Charles in the Rulers of the World threads? As I recall, they were in a quandary at that time about whether to let this experiment run its course (with all its out of balance negatives) or whether to intervene and try to correct it. If they are the ones abandoning ship, then this awful experiment was set in motion and allowed to develop without hope of resolution unless some people with access to power really take control and begin some sane actions in defense of life and the planet.

Or are these controllers the interdimensionals the Elite follow, who promote the fear-fest and who require the blood sacrifices? Again, only people who have access to power can really do anything. Otherwise, it would require the uprising of the entire population of this planet, storming the halls of power, confronting the armies, willingly dying as they face the tanks and guns that must be protecting the Rockefeller enclave in upstate New York. I personally don't see that happening, but maybe it will when it's obvious that all else is lost. Maybe the final act of the good people of the world will be to try to take out the bastards. Who knows?

Against magnetic storms there is no defense except going underground. To rid the planet of the Elites in their underground cities would also require the uprising of the population of the entire planet and storming those underground facilities, willingly dying in that effort against all the military hardware that has been built with our tax dollars, without our permission.

I don't know. I think the controllers leaving the planet is a good sign. What we do with what they're leaving behind is the question. If they let go their stranglehold on the planet, maybe a worldwide volunteer effort to clean up Fukushima would materialize, as many have said they have solutions but are being held back; maybe we'd stop wasting US tax dollars building that damn embassy in Baghdad which is already larger than Vatican City; maybe some sanity still has the possibility of emerging if the stranglehold is removed.

But I await your analysis and explanation of why you find this scary.

All best wishes,
~ Doodah

[Unified Serenity]

My hope is beyond this world and believes we are made wonderfully and gloriously to be one with the Divine light of creation. Many call me a fool, and if believing in the message and truths of Yeshua makes me a fool, than a fool for Christ I shall be. I have seen much in this world, experienced first hand Divine light and love and well as the opposite and known both sides intimately because of those experiences. We were warned of the coming days when the righteous would be few and men would call good evil and evil good. Some were chosen from the foundation of this age to be a witness unto the greatness of God and when all things are fulfilled and they are delivered up before the evil one they shall not premeditate what they shall say, but speak with the miraculous cloven tongue of the Ruach HaKodesh or Holy Spirit of God and the sign of that is that all people will hear them in their native dialects at the same time with no interpreter necessary.

99% of the world will believe these zadok, these righteous ones are evil because they will not support this new leader. The NWO serves openly their god Lucifer. You can deny his existence all you want, but they are boldly and actively worshiping and serving him as God. He will not assume power in an evil manner. He will come in peacefully and prosperously as the bible says, and the people as one will cry "Peace, Peace, Peace" and that is your warning notice. Do not fret when you hear of wars and rumors of wars or disasters in various places for that is to be expected. It is when the nations are crying Peace that you need to notice and not fall prey to the plan of the one who as wanted to be worshiped as God for millions of years. He will come as a beautiful shining light of Peace and Prosperity. He will perform miracles beyond your minds ability to imagine, and he will promise unity and love for all who love him and worship him.

We are in the fifth seal and have been for a long time. The season of the locust swarm is upon us and that is what you are feeling now. They are swarming and the world is in turmoil, but do not fear. Those who love God and are called according to His purposes are protected. If you do not know the order of events then you do have something to fear. It is highly likely that you too will embrace this "savior" and sadly you will think you are following the path of light. This whole Drake fiasco has shown me how easily people lay down their ideals when faced with untenable situations. Drakes deception is absolutely nothing compared to what is coming, and I pray for all mankind we wake-up and not be ashamed.

I have faith grounded in facts born out over time and experience. Most here I feel will disagree with me and you have that right. I simply say, if you are not sure because of things that have happened in the name of Jesus and the church then I implore you to ask God to show you the truth and direct your path. If you have never been able to study the bible without confusion or falling asleep then ask anew. A famished man cannot think straight and we were told there would be famine in the last days but it would not be for food. It would be a famine for hearing the word of the Lord. There is not one church approved of by God in my city as spoken of in Revelation 2:10 and 3:10. They are innocently ignorant and following the traditions of men. They know not what they do, and I am greatly concerned they shall fall for the false Messiah too. There are some good churches but they are very very hard to find. I am hopeful because of what I believe, and that is not Armageddon get it over with so I can go onto a great new world in a new body. No, my hope is in this divine journey we are all on, and in us knowingly choosing our paths.

Remember how angry you were when you found out you had been deceived into giving up your rights by getting a SSN ? How they did not tell you this meant you leave your rights behind, but you did it because you were deceived. How many times have you been deceived my friends? It feels like we are in this alone, but we are not. There truly is a helper and a friend with you at all times and you just don't know it. Knock and the door shall be opened for you, seek and you will find, Ask and it shall be given unto you. Love is the absence of fear and there is no reason for a child of God to be afraid of the future. I fear nothing coming upon us, S/he's not mad at me.

[childs hood end]

The energy flows were the focus goes.......... will it be Avocadess freedom` or bills arcons.... its your free will.... you decide.... sheep are directed....

[Daughter of Time]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart. I don't know why I believed this since I've always had love in my heart but my path has been very difficult. This is not to say that I have not experienced joy, for there has been much joy in my life, but pain, confusion, chaos, deceit and grief have far surpassed the joy I've experienced.

As an ET abductee, I feel like a fool that it took me so long to realize that my beliefs in New Age creating a better world were all ET manipulations. I fully believe that there are people in the New Age movement who really believe that they are doing great work towards freeing humanity. They simply haven't realized that they are manipulated too. Finally, less than two months ago, I had my last Orionite contact while in bed. The Orionites disguised themselves as "good" beings who were there to help me. By the time I realized who they were, I was knocked out unconscious. When I woke up, I was physically sick and filled with fear. But the experienced served a very important purpose for I am now fully aware of the ET deception, decimation of abilities, theft of energy, and downright feelings of descension into insanity. And no, I'm not insane. I am saner than I have ever been, but only because I became aware of the presence which in the past used to take place while I was asleep. I wondered why so many times I would wake up feeling so sick I could barely get out of bed. Now I know.

So, have I regained who I truly am? No! But I feel that this new found awareness will go a long way in getting me there.

Awareness of the manipulations is the greatest tool we have right now. And I do trust that awareness will lead us to workable solutions to freeing ourselves and becoming the powerful beings we once were.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on gaining your new awareness. That's awesome!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

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And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

All that farmer wants is to stay in business. He doesn't feel compassion for any cows that suffer, are sick, or go to the slaughterhouse. That's not the game he's playing. His goal is completely different.

This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

Wow. Gonna nickname you Bombshell Bill you keep that up.

This scenario does not scare me at all. If the structures of our civilization began to collapse because the control mechanisms were suddenly pulled, I do not believe that our Friends would let the boat sink. I believe they would step in and help us reestablish stability. There would be interruptions and tragedies, but the end result would be worth it I think.

Bill, this would make a fine new thread when you have your data collated for discussion.

[Daughter of Time]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!

Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge, and understanding, and patience, and perseverance...

[gripreaper]

I've always contended that 60 or 70 years ago, new information came onto the scene in regards to future events, and the elite totally shifted gears and consolidated all of their intellectual prowess into one country under project paperclip, consolidated all financing for their accelerated black projects into Bilderberger, and poured massive amounts of focused attention on how to get off this planet.

The tell tale signs of this can be seen in their utter disregard for the environment, the proper function of commerce, or the ultimate destiny of humankind. Many have asked the question, why would they allow the total destruction of this planet if they intended to continue living here? The observation comes from that fact that they are basically, like a cancer, destroying their host.

Speculation as to what they learned about an "event" to which they did not want to be here, and needed to accelerate their prowess in stellar technology and off planet bases, are surrounded by ideas of an impending "burp" from the sun, or some other cosmic event which shifts the poles or impacts this planet is some way by another large mass due to gravitational pulls.

In any event, the elite appear to be voraciously planning for an extinction level event, and have been for at least 70 years, and appear to not care at all about steering humanity towards a favorable destiny and have completely abandoned any semblance of sanity towards stewardship of this planet.

So what is going on right under our noses while we are distracted by the likes of this thread, or continue to debate 9-11 when in fact 9-11 might have been the perfect 10 years distraction from what?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!

Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!

There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesmen. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.

[Daughter of Time]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!

Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!

There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesman. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.

I agree that amongst the misinformation of religions and spiritual movements many jewels can be found. These are precious and serve us on the path to knowledge.

But personally, for me true wisdom has always come from within, and painfully, and only in drops.

[000]

I ran across this a little earlier from *this* (http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/a-comment-from-amon-christenson-plus-breaking-news-with-which-he-has-provided-us-many-thanks-amon-j/) blog/alternative news aggregate. It pertains to the Keenan/Scott lawsuit.

I have not been following the Drake saga (my intuition did not jump out at me tickling me to follow it so I did not).

The following, if it is for real (I do not know), would imply that mass arrests would not be happening very soon.

Take from it what you will. I am merely passing along something that is potentially of interest.


Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published.


A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.


I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal.


There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.


Blessings,
Amon


Now, here is Amon’s original comment:


The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.


Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts. From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.


When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.


The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.


While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America.or the American taxpayer.


What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.


Amon Christenson.


When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge.

Here is his response to us:

I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.


Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.


I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.


Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.


Blessings,
Amon

[niki]

For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!

Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!

There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesman. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.

I agree that amongst the misinformation of religions and spiritual movements many jewels can be found. These are precious and serve us on the path to knowledge.

But personally, for me true wisdom has always come from within, and painfully, and only in drops.

Ever heard the quote : "In every truth there is lies, and in every lies there is truth" ? :)
just to also confirm what you and @Whiskey_Mystic said above :)

~warm regards from Indonesia~

[9eagle9]

I live in an area literally carpeted with guru's, pseudo shamans, pseudo healers, etc etc etc all them playing in their own feces and all them attached into a parasitical energy that they are not aware of . If they are they think its a spirit guide or angels. It would literally make me physically exhausted to be in the these communities with all the power struggles going on between the parasitical energies and their hosts. Their central issues ( I used to be a mediator in the these communities) were each other stealing each other's power. "She crossed the street, forked the evil eye at me and took my power!"

I used to roll my eyes at this as most lightworkers are involved in some sort of interpersonal drama but on past reflection find that is true in a much deeper context. That is exactly what they were doing feeding off of each other.

They are not all necessarily in alignment with each other, these parasitical energies (which would work in our favor if we'd wake up to certain realities) but tend to leverage one' s ego so it was quite draining to be among these people and they are quite prevalent. Ther'es not a whole lot of mystics out there with 'true' integrity or clarity.

I found physical replays among people that reflected what is going on in the realms of the non physical parasitical. A 'master' shaman uploading his students, sending them out corded in to him, and then the students initiating these truly irrelevant rituals that served only to cord their students and participants into them. What was quite interesting about all of this is that people who don't goof around with this nonsense was very off putting to them. Not on civil conduct level, but one can tell they grow uneasy in the presence of someone who's worked at clearing out these attachments on themselves.

And then some few with the big honking attachments were downright preemptively hostile for no apparent reason.

The thing is like people who are co dependent on an emotional level, ( i know he beats me but i won't leave him....) you can't tell these people anything. "Uhm...that's not a angel its a parasitical energy feeding on you, your kids, your husband...and really you don't care to know this?"

The programming won't allow for something, of course, that reveals the program. It used to be these things used to like to run unnoticed and now they are out in the open and blantant as can be these days because people refuse to know that they really are.

Literally one's host could pop up anywhere and say "I'm an energy vampire' and people will go "Oh cool. Do some energy work on me!"

I used to find this disturbing but you know what....I really don't anymore. What do you do, weep and moan and roam the halls wringing your hands or detach from how bizarre it all is that people just invite this stuff in. or just ignore it. It's a means of taking control of one's life and mind back but very few want to hear about it.

What was interesting is these 'cord in ' gurus had a nearly telepathic ability to discern whom may be a threat to them (people who saw something wasn't altogether clear in their fields. ) So one of them "Evan" had a real bug up his arse about me. The thing is I have no idea HOW he even knew about me. He had a student that acted like I was ax murderer when I was around explaining that he , as a shaman, was so sensitive that low density people (like myself....lol) upset his fields. He had an assistant who fielded his calls because he was 'so sensitive' that she had to listen in for strange energy fluxes to protect him

People eat stories like that up. The thing is if you are THAT sensitive do you really need to be horsing around with parasitical energies. No, he was bit through the bag with them and transfering that energy to his students and the persons he worked with that would come away physically INJURED from these episodes but somehow couldn't manage to put two and two together. These are not energies you move amongst in a fearful way. It's like watching the priests of the Catholic Church fearfully waving crosses and holy water around. "Father, can you give that parasite even more power over all involed than it already has?"

When I point out the nature of what he was doing, they'd exclaim "he's so nice!" Well yes a very nice fearful man but nice, positive people are attached too. They have a nice positive seeming program running but its still a program.

People who are less attached are considered ****head- mean. they don't support the program.)

Then some-other twit started issuing bulletins about how evil I was and I'm thinking HOW does this person know me? They don't. All roads led back to Evan, who had a bone out for me ONLY because I've done a lot of work on myself and can see these things in others.

Does any of this sound the least bit familiar, if you know what I mean?







For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.

I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!

Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge, and understanding, and patience, and perseverance...

[Hervé]

I ran across this a little earlier from *this* (http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/a-comment-from-amon-christenson-plus-breaking-news-with-which-he-has-provided-us-many-thanks-amon-j/) blog/alternative news aggregate. It pertains to the Keenan/Scott lawsuit.

I have not been following the Drake saga (my intuition did not jump out at me tickling me to follow it so I did not).

The following, if it is for real (I do not know), would imply that mass arrests would not be happening very soon.

Take from it what you will. I am merely passing along something that is potentially of interest.


Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published.


A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.


I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal.


There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.


Blessings,
Amon


Now, here is Amon’s original comment:


The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.


Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts. From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.


When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.


The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.


While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America.or the American taxpayer.


What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.


Amon Christenson.


When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge.

Here is his response to us:

I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.


Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.


I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.


Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.


Blessings,
Amon


Cool data 000!

That's actually the only way the so-called "Federal Reserve" can be taken out since Congress has been rendered useless:


According to Section 4, part 2 of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913, it says of each of the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks:

“To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.“

Since the Federal Reserve Board’s site (http://federalreserve.gov/) shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, their 20-year charter must have been extended.

A 20-year charter was also granted to the First and Second Banks of the United States, and both had their charter terminated. Yes, there was a time when privately owned central banks had time-limited charters, and for good reason, due to the havoc they caused.

12 U.S.C. § 341 : US Code – Section 341 (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/12/3/IX/341): General enumeration of powers shows:

“Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.“

Again, since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, this provision was either changed with some other time limit, or was never changed.

In fact, it was never changed, and, therefore, their charter doesn’t expire in 2012, and there was never a 99-year charter for the Federal Reserve.

From: http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21...xpire-in-2012/ (http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21/the-federal-reserves-non-existent-99-year-charter-set-to-expire-in-2012/)

[Kimberley]

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Latest from David Wilcock!!!

The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

by David Wilcock

Full reports at this link:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1062-green-light?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29&utm_content=FaceBook

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[SilentFeathers]

*********

Latest from David Wilcock!!!

The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

by David Wilcock

Full reports at this link:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1062-green-light?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29&utm_content=FaceBook

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

Wilcock is separating himself from Drake big time, that's what I see reading between the lines and all the other BS he wrote in his blog.....we'll see, the mess is getting messier.

(is messier a word) ???? :)

They're shutting er down folk's! by 12-21-2012 or sooner no one will even remember this saga, or who drake is, and if they do they probably will prefer not to even talk about it, or him......

so much for the grand finally! on to the next outstanding fictional saga!

From Davids blog;;;;;;;;


FIRST POSSIBILITY: DEATH THREATS AND DISCREDITATION

Let's start with the premise that the people Drake spoke to are real people, not conspirators, who have earned his trust and generally want to do the right thing.

It is possible that these insiders who spoke to Drake have been threatened with death if they did not share this blatantly untrue information with him.

All it would take is getting in touch with three different people who are in Drake's normal circle of contacts -- and threatening them.

The purpose could then be to utterly destroy the credibility of the whole "mass arrests" concept.

In one sudden move -- with a very rapid expiration date -- you crush everyone who has been tracking and supporting this story, and demolish all their hard work.



GETTING RID OF ALL THE CHANNELERS

By releasing this dramatic, exciting story, you also destroy the "me too" channelers whose intuitive "sources", flying about in silvery round airliners in the clouds, immediately "verify" the information is correct.

Most channeling is 10-15 percent accurate intuitive information. This gives it enough of an edge, with provably weird and wonderful stuff, that there is a great story there.

The remaining 85-90 percent is influenced by the conscious mind's wants, needs and desires -- including any strong beliefs.

[Avocadess]

Finally we hear from Wilcock -- yay!!! =)

A very interesting possibility considered by Wilcock in his recent blog:

"FIRST POSSIBILITY: DEATH THREATS AND DISCREDITATION

"Let's start with the premise that the people Drake spoke to are real people, not conspirators, who have earned his trust and generally want to do the right thing.

"It is possible that these insiders who spoke to Drake have been threatened with death if they did not share this blatantly untrue information with him.

"All it would take is getting in touch with three different people who are in Drake's normal circle of contacts -- and threatening them.

"The purpose could then be to utterly destroy the credibility of the whole 'mass arrests' concept.

"In one sudden move -- with a very rapid expiration date -- you crush everyone who has been tracking and supporting this story, and demolish all their hard work."


******

(I know of quite a few who have been posting on this thread that certainly would love to destroy anyone's credibility who supports the story of the impending mass arrests, and have often wondered how many of them have been manipulated themselves -- and whether they even know they have been manipulated or not.)

******

Wilcock goes on to say:

"If Drake was deceived, this type of a move also weakens the actual people who are working to make these arrests a reality -- not just those like Drake who are publicly reporting on it.

"By taking down the original messenger and all those who side with him and believe he 'must' be right, the movement is destroyed -- and very few people even believe it anymore."


*******

ME PERSONALLY -- I STILL BELIEVE IT, EVEN IF WE GET DOWN ONLY TO WILCOCK TO WAIT FOR GREENLIGHT FROM.

I have seen too many things happening as well that indicate that the impending mass arrests are coming along with a major transition FOR the People.

As Wilcock pointed out, "In a case like this, if people no longer believe a Mass Arrests scenario is real, they may fail to act when it actually starts happening -- thereby giving the enemy a greater advantage."

However, my own thinking went more along the lines of Wilcock's second possible scenario:

"SECOND POSSIBILITY: FAKE 'EM OUT AND ANTICIPATE THEIR MOVES

"Secondly, even if the people who told this to Drake are indeed the 'good guys', they may have done this to improve their tactical readiness for such an event.

"Simply put, we may now be witnessing the implementation of an end-stage plan that was worked into the design all along" and later in his blog added, "Given the extraordinary stakes, we can expect that all the best and most classic counter-intelligence tactics will be out in full force as we get close to the end here."

ABSOLUTELY...!

and nearer the end of his latest blog, Wilcock added:

"I feel very positive and confident about our future, and a great sense of relief that we are this close to major change."

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AGREED, David...!!! I feel that David Wilcock wrote today's blog very, very well and encourage anyone who is interested in this topic take the time to go to his website and read the whole thing. It's at http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1062-green-light

Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

[Rocky_Shorz]

good teachers are always waiting for the chance to become students...

we all have built in Hinky meters, and our experience is fine tuning it...

how many get chills looking at someone you've never met, or smile seeing someone approaching.

as this year is progressing, the awaking we are going through is our connections to those around us getting stronger...

the Hinky meter is really our Spirit subtly guiding us through life...

but now those trying to spin us are hitting the wall, the veils have come down, and truth is being known through communications with our Spirit, without words...

I see even Drake as a teacher, keep em coming... ;)

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I was wondering when David would chime in. Thanks for the heads up.


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Latest from David Wilcock!!!

The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

by David Wilcock

Full reports at this link:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1062-green-light?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29&utm_content=FaceBook

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[applecrusher1992]

Bill

Is this comment directed toward me? This is your forum. If you want me to leave I will at your request. You may think me cynical but frankly I am just following my heart and what I should right now. And also what do you mean by "real" issues ? And how is this distracting to those who don't wish to come here on a free basis? The issues people deal with may be completely different. Each person has his/her own issues to deal with and frankly to me this is a "real" issue. Maybe one that is based on a false promises but a issue nonetheless. And one I have both hope and criticism for. So let us continue the discuss as it is. I await your reply.

Karl

Hi, Karl -- no this is is not personal at all. I respect all views. You are here on the forum because we liked and welcomed you here.

But I have a duty and a responsibility to call nonsense where I see it (and there's been a huge amount of nonsense in the alternative media over the last 12 months). It's my job. I'm an alternative media investigator, but I'm also a teacher and a guide.

You asked me what the real issues are. They include (but are by no means limited to):

-- Coming solar events that may well compromise electronic components and the communications/power grid. (Current estimates of timing, as best I know and have been told, are this coming December-January, and maybe in the months following in the first half of 2013.) This has been anticipated for many years. I was advised by a scientist with a Top Secret clearance, name known and supplied, to "either get a lot of sunblock or, better still, go underground".

-- A financial event (or abruptly deteriorating economic situation: like a financial earthquake or tsunami) in the coming few months -- before the US election -- that will result in the devaluation of the US dollar and rapid inflation in all food, fuel, goods and services in the US. (Possible violent domestic reaction to this is what Doug Hagmann has been talking about. There could be a lot of civil unrest if the transition to a lower value dollar is not smooth. It's quite possible that the USG might not WANT it to be smooth, in order to justify round-up action against the militias.)

-- Poverty, pollution, extinction of species, disruption of weather patterns, destruction of the rain forest, chemtrails, radiation (Fukushima is a desperately serious, totally unsolved problem)... what more do I need to say?

-- As Justoneman correctly states, there is a considerable and almost unconfrontable backstage and hidden continuing practice of satanic ritual abuse and sacrifice that fuels and empowers demonic agendas connected with all the above. We're in big trouble on Planet Earth (and have been for several thousand years) -- and only mass awakening and awareness, with the engagement of the mainstream media, will really turn the tide.

-- People are waking up, and there are changes, but not nearly enough yet. If we win all this, it may take several committed generations to clean up the immense mess. Much of the nonsense in the alternative media (Elenin, 11-11-11, Ascension as in some kind of coming galactic rapture, the Galactic Federation of Light and Mike Quinsey's other delusions (there are benevolent ETs, but they don't operate like that!), so-called, much-hoped-for but never-actually-occurring "mass arrests", and now the ridiculous Drake circus) serves to provide damaging and destructive false hope, to which many have recently become addicted.

Hanging on to delusional false hope is way easier than confronting the truth, and functions like a kind of opiate that disempowers otherwise intelligent, aware and able people -- like yourself.

Realize that what I'm saying here is a compliment... not an insult. I'm just explaining what's going on. You are very able indeed -- otherwise we'd not be having this conversation! -- but you, and some others, are backing the wrong horses here.

Thanks Bill. I appreciate your comments and reply. I also totally agree that these are issues that we will have to deal with. I realized that this event has been draining me very much lately and instead of making me feel better about something happening it has made me worried and more tense. These are probably not things that would happen if I personally felt inside of me that this so called event would happen. And I do understand that and have been looking in myself and my dreams to help me through this point in my life. But nevertheless have more hope in humanity because our future is going to be glorious either way. We are going to make it even though it may be rough so be happy. I didn't decide to come to this planet because it was easy but because I wanted to help in these hard times to come. And some people don't want to hear the truth but I am still there for them and I will continue to plant a seed in their mind to awaken them. I had no hard feelings toward you when I was replying and hope for your best. Best Wishes

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Ok, I read what David had to say and I do have one issue with it. Whether there are people following the story and believing it or not, what difference does that make to the actual operation? The few thousand people, even a few million, who are watching this story can in no way constitute a consent of the people, so why does it matter? That's why I thought Drake's poll was silly. I believe, as some whistleblower's have said, that if an operation like this were ever conducted, we would hear about it after the fact. And by "we" I mean the vast majority of the population.

[gripreaper]

Well, Drake has assured us that there is a “Green Light” for the military to move forward this week and arrest all of the bad guys in the global cabal, of course, with the help of ET’s sprinkling strategic Faerie dust into the cabal’s nervous systems to render them immobile, so that they cannot sneak away but will actually die and be returned to the Great Central Sun, because several of the States have notified the Hague of their sovereignty, and have extricated themselves from the UNITED STATES corporatocracy and will no longer adhere to the mandates of this corporate government and thus the military has decided to move forward after Drake sent them an ultimatum and told them they better get with it or he will take his militia buddies and take matters into his own hands.

BUT, if IN FACT there are over 28 States which have IN FACT severed their ties to the corporate UNITED STATES to where the military can IN FACT act on the peoples behalf, then why not follow the ONLY Constitutional provision written into the Constitution by our forefathers who foresaw the inevitability that tyranny would one day take over the representative Republic of the Sovereign States of original colonies, and CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

IF the restoration of this Republic is the ultimate goal ,and the rescission and repeal of the 13th amendment and all subsequent amendments, as well as the Federal Reserve’s fiat money system at interest, and the unlawful income tax, and the many alphabet agencies which do the cabals bidding being abolished as well as the military acting as the cabal’s global police force, then CALL A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!

The Constitutional Convention IS THE ONLY PROVISION written into the Constitution for the people to restore representative government, by 28 states calling for one, and the immediate repeal of all unlawful acts, executive orders, and amendments. THIS IS the provision our forefathers put into the Constitution because they saw the inevitability of tyranny eventually recapturing our representative Republic.

One fell swoop, it’s all solved, LAWFULLY AND PEACEFULLY.

[applecrusher1992]

Well, Drake has assured us that there is a “Green Light” for the military to move forward this week and arrest all of the bad guys in the global cabal, of course, with the help of ET’s sprinkling strategic Faerie dust into the cabal’s nervous systems to render them immobile, so that they cannot sneak away but will actually die and be returned to the Great Central Sun, because several of the States have notified the Hague of their sovereignty, and have extricated themselves from the UNITED STATES corporatocracy and will no longer adhere to the mandates of this corporate government and thus the military has decided to move forward after Drake sent them an ultimatum and told them they better get with it or he will take his militia buddies and take matters into his own hands.

BUT, if IN FACT there are over 28 States which have IN FACT severed their ties to the corporate UNITED STATES to where the military can IN FACT act on the peoples behalf, then why not follow the ONLY Constitutional provision written into the Constitution by our forefathers who foresaw the inevitability that tyranny would one day take over the representative Republic of the Sovereign States of original colonies, and CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

IF the restoration of this Republic is the ultimate goal ,and the rescission and repeal of the 13th amendment and all subsequent amendments, as well as the Federal Reserve’s fiat money system at interest, and the unlawful income tax, and the many alphabet agencies which do the cabals bidding being abolished as well as the military acting as the cabal’s global police force, then CALL A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!

The Constitutional Convention IS THE ONLY PROVISION written into the Constitution for the people to restore representative government, by 28 states calling for one, and the immediate repeal of all unlawful acts, executive orders, and amendments. THIS IS the provision our forefathers put into the Constitution because they saw the inevitability of tyranny eventually recapturing our representative Republic.

One fell swoop, it’s all solved, LAWFULLY AND PEACEFULLY.

He actually does mention that we need a referendum to the constitution in his latest update. Check it out. But until I see action I won't start believing.

http://americannationalmilitia.com/latest-updates/

[crosby]

tough conversation. and sweet feelings. i am on both sides of the fence, i know one side will not concede without the other. peace amongst this human race is the absolute most necessary ideal set on the table. is it possible?
warmest, corson

[Matts]

It is critical, whereupon the focus of attention lies. This will then manifest. So be vigilant to any messages and listen to your inner voice, which is free from fear.

[Ishtar]

Well, Bill, I think that is absolutely fanastically good news, that some rogue group of dark lower astral beings who’ve managed to convince a few here that they are our controllers are leaving the planet!

I think we should hold a party to wave them off. Our celebrations would know no bounds that at last we are rid of these beings who have no compassion for us, and whose only interest in us is to manage/exploit/control us. Then man will be able to own his true sovereignty in the full knowledge of how great he really is.

Because man is not cattle. Each one of us is a truly great and powerful being, in our own right. This is the way the spirits feel about us, the ones that I meet in the deeper dimensions, way and beyond the murky dark astral layers of these deluded, so-called ‘controllers’. I don’t know if you’re familiar with the Gnostic scriptures, but this astral ‘controller’ type is represented in those metaphorical stories as the blind demiurge, who is blinded by his own huge ego to think that there is none higher than him, and manages to convince others of that same delusion…others who never go any further or higher than the blind demiurge to find out otherwise, because they are blinded themselves. Their third eyes are closed.

But the overriding entities, known as the spirits that I and other shamans communicate with, are all-knowing but also entirely benevolent, with the spiritual evolution of man foremost in their aims and purpose. They are almost, I would say, admiring of man. They think man is fantastic… so fantastic in fact, that those who were originally here in human bodies (not all were) have held back their own liberation until the time that man can develop enough to realise who he really is.

To those spirits, the human is incredible… what he/she goes through and overcomes in one lifetime, and how he/she, with only a few exceptions, keeps loving anyway, and keeps faith with the depth of that compassion that they know is in their hearts, despite everything. The Nature spirits too, have no less of a strong feeling for man, and so they feel honoured to support us with food and water and whatever else we require no matter how much, in our temporary blindness, we continue to pollute the planet. Not that this is an excuse to act irresponsibly, but Nature has amazing resilience and ability to renew Herself, over and over. She will also take all our pain. We can send our pain into the Earth and She will absorb it.

I wish you could meet these spirits. Well, you could. Anyone can. It is our birthright to be in contact with them and we all have the means to do so. I’m trying to think of a metaphor to explain it. Perhaps if you compare the unititiated human being to a television set, just after you’ve brought it back from the shop and taken it out of the cardboard box. You plug it in but you can ‘t pick up any television channels because you need someone to come and tune it in.

In the same way, you have all the necessary apparatus inside you, and so if you could find a shaman to tune you in, you could then become empowered by receiving your own information direct from your own spirits.

In this process, you will undergo some initiations which will open your pineal gland/third eye, so that no-one need ever tell you again what to believe and what to think because you will be able to see for yourself. The pineal gland/third eye has begun to close over time, through disuse mainly. But this is the doorway, the portal, the stargate if you like for you to soar way above the dark realms of the ignorant, arrogant, blind demiurge and commune with those who have abundant and never-ending compassion for the spirit being that is currently on the human journey.

This is not a New Age theory. In fact, it’s very Old Age and it is an experience, not a belief system. Our earliest ancestors were in touch with these spirits and told about what they experienced within shamanic journeys ~ with respect to man's holographic place in the multi-dimensional cosmos ~ within metaphorical stories that we call myths, that have come down to us through aeons of time. It is a practical experience that you and anyone else can have.

If you, or anyone else, would like me to help you find a shaman near where you live, who can initiate you (tune you) into this experience, please do get in touch with me.

Bill, as a deservedly respected leader in the alternative community, I think it would be wonderful if you could look into this.

[Curt]

I agree with your take, quoted below.


For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart. I don't know why I believed this since I've always had love in my heart but my path has been very difficult. This is not to say that I have not experienced joy, for there has been much joy in my life, but pain, confusion, chaos, deceit and grief have far surpassed the joy I've experienced.

In a roundabout sort of way what you're saying about 'love in your heart' reminds me of the scene in Radio Days by Woody Allen...the scene where the family is listening to the story of the baseball player 'with a lot of heart...' on the radio.

The idea that all you need is 'love in your heart', or in the case of this scene, heart is touching on the face of it.

But it may not be, strictly speaking, true.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3x0-P3JFdw

[Ishtar]

The idea that all you need is 'love in your heart', or in the case of this scene, heart is touching. But it may not be, strictly speaking, true [/B]

I agree. All you need is love was a nice idea of the Beatles and was the philosophy prevalent in the Sixties. But by the Seventies, many of the 'love the one you're with' flower children of Haight Ashbury had become heroin addicts.

Love needs to be balanced with wisdom and knowledge... by which I mean the sort of holistic wisdom and knowledge that used to be known as the Greek 'gnosis'. This comes from having the third eye opened, and communing with all-knowing and benevolent spirits, as I describe in my previous post. It is a practical experience ~ not a trip someone lays on you with a load of dogma to have blind faith in.

[Billy]

----

And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

All that farmer wants is to stay in business. He doesn't feel compassion for any cows that suffer, are sick, or go to the slaughterhouse. That's not the game he's playing. His goal is completely different.

This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

Hi Bill. Thank goodness there is more than one ship navigating the oceon of life, If the controllers have decided to abandon their ship, Mother earth is not the ship that is sinking, But the contollers inability to navigate on Mother Earth anymore, it will not be woman and children first, The sevice to self Captain will be first in this instance trying to save their own neck. Leaving their slave masters with no direction or to drown.

Maybe it will be up to ships that navigate with Mother Earth to rescue the drowning and assist them with the kiss of life

My ship is not sinking, Is anyone elses

Bon Voyage is all i can say.

Peace

[Chester]

tough conversation. and sweet feelings. i am on both sides of the fence, i know one side will not concede without the other. peace amongst this human race is the absolute most necessary ideal set on the table. is it possible?
warmest, corson

my opinion only -

After taking the first step, recognizing the truth of one's inner discontent and the unacceptability of such, the solution lay in knowing who/what one is (we are), knowing as much as one can about one's true history (our history) and finally knowing as much as one can the truth of one's situation on Earth today (our collective truth).

Those are the keys to reaching past the 100th monkey within each of us... but again, what do I know? I used to buy into the Drake clown show.

[Gemini]

Hi Ishtar,

Excuse my limited understanding, but what bothers me about this way of thinking is that it appears to a bit too black-and-white in color. As in the dark beings reside in the astral plane and then the all-knowing, entirely benevolent beings are in the higher/deeper dimensions. I'm quoting here an excerpt from this article (http://psitalent.de/Englisch/Fatale%20Errors.htm) which has some good points, not that I necessarily agree with all of them.


Fatal beliefs on the "Astral Plane"
or the so called "4th Dimension"

...

Generally, our reality’s consciousness is taking place and is based in the astral realm (4th dimension, if you wish): the consciousness of matter, plants and their related nature spirits, the consciousness of animals and humans in the form of astral beings and astral energies. Our conscious thinking seems to be, however, decoupled from the astral plane. The astral contains the energies and feelings of us humans, our patterns, programs and problems from former lives. The mark of each of us can be found there, but not our conscious thinking. I assume that conscious thinking/ cognitive consciousness is taking place on a different level.
Everything existing in our reality and happening here, exists and happens through the energies of the astral plane. Nothing can happen if there is no corresponding energy to it from the 4th dimension. Whoever wants to change something in our reality must make a change on the astral plane first, consciously or unconsciously. Material reality without the astral realm is like a computer without software. Without software, the computer is dead matter. Without the astral, the reality is dead matter. And further: If the astral realm is ruled by devils, our reality turns into hell. If the astral realm is filled with angels, it becomes heaven, or at least paradise.

Now, most likely many followers of New Age beliefs will claim that the astral realm is the place where dark entities dwell. Well, you don't have to put up with this! This thinking contains the motives to block us from the possibility to be the ones in charge of our reality, which also means that we have the power to do something about it. Certainly, the astral plane is dominated by dark entities at the moment, although this fact shouldn't corroborate the wrong belief about the astral plane being the home of dark entities, like it was some sort of hell where they supposedly belong and we humans are out of the woods since we allegedly belong into the so-called 5th dimension. Sure...

Many followers of the New Age belief system expect, that they soon will scale up to the 5th dimension (of course nobody can answer the question, what this mysterious 5th dimension will be) and believe they simply can leave our reality and the 4th dimension behind. Yet, these ascension-theories are actually based on promises made by (dark and deceiving) entities who were and are being channeled by psychics.

At this point I want to demonstrate the cunning nature of this entity-given information: the agenda behind this kind of false belief system is to disempower us and hold us back from creating our reality by making us reject our natural connection to the astral plane. We do disconnect from earth and the astral plane by rejecting it, talking it down and by considering it to be “spiritually inferior” and calling it the home of demons. I know die-hard ascension-fanatics believe that it is supposed to be that way since earth is supposedly the place for dull and undeveloped souls, so they have hell on earth as a learning platform. I do not hold this view creating a scenario of “ascension into the 5th dimension” versus “hell on (the inferior) earth”. Actually, this belief is tricky and shouldn't be supported by us, since it is supporting passive and disempowering attitudes and that is very much in terms of those dark deceiving entities! By no means should we hand over our reality to devils and monsters. It is their long-term plan to take over our reality and other different realities as well. The more they succeed in this, the more powerful they become and the more they are going to walk over us. This should be clarified throughout this article.

Miscellaneous realities? Yes, there are plenty of realities (furthermore I believe there are many more astral planes with their associated realities inside our multiverse). I have had glimpses into other realities on the planets of our solar system. I saw people there, who look exactly like us. They have buildings, cities etc. These realities are not to be seen by our physical eye sight. From our earthly point of view those planets appear to be bald and uninhabitable, yet they are full of life. Different realities besides “our reality” even exist on our planet. Think about the invisible beings (elves etc.) in Iceland. All these realities are interconnected through the shared astral plane. Through the astral plane other realities and beings can be contacted.

So, reflect on this: if we handed over our reality realm to those dark entities, they would have a solid base station which makes it easier for them to operate and take over the other realities in our shared solar system and astral plane.

Well, what about the other, higher dimensions? I would like to note that we have been easily impressed by the superior abilities and technologies of other interdimensional beings since the beginning of time. This is the actual cause for so many people still accepting announcements of so-called higher beings, even today. Statements about higher dimensions usually are given by reputedly "ascended masters", “guides” or other (wannabe) light beings, etc. I am certain that there are other dimensions, yet I cannot draw any image of those dimensions myself. But I am very suspicious about taking any channeled demands and messages for granted, just as little as I buy into old scripts and books about these topics.

How do you know the spirits you communicate with are entirely benevolent? Isn't there the possibiliy they (or some of them) are masterful deceivers? The way they apparently think of us humans is very flattering but could be used as a trap too. I don't doubt our ancestors have been in contact with these spirits but they may have also worshipped and done blood sacrifices for them by their demand, as has been done through-out history.

[Chester]

The idea that all you need is 'love in your heart', or in the case of this scene, heart is touching. But it may not be, strictly speaking, true [/B]

I agree. All you need is love was a nice idea of the Beatles and was the philosophy prevalent in the Sixties. But by the Seventies, many of the 'love the one you're with' flower children of Haight Ashbury had become heroin addicts.

Love needs to be balanced with wisdom and knowledge... by which I mean the sort of holistic wisdom and knowledge that used to be known as the Greek 'gnosis'. This comes from having the third eye opened, and communing with all-knowing and benevolent spirits, as I describe in my previous post. It is a practical experience ~ not a trip someone lays on you with a load of dogma to have blind faith in.

There are other ways 'gnosis' can be achieved though shamanic journey can achieve this result.

I recommend each of us remain grounded in the reality of the truthful, current situation on Earth.

[Ishtar]

Hi Gemini

Good points! Thanks for responding....

I am only talking of my own experience, which I was shown by a shaman teacher. He didn't give me any beliefs or dogma or cosmological models to learn and believe in. He just gave me a key, metaphorically-speaking, to unlock my own experience. So this is all I offer. No belief system, no dogma, no blind faith, no stories that cannot be verified. Just a simple technique.

I do experience going way beyond the astral planes in this way. It's called shamanic journeying. I'm not saying it is the only way. I am saying it is a way that I have found.

I do also experience the astral planes from time to time, so I know that the nature of the astral planes is very different to what I experience in the shamanic dimensions. The main difference, which is just something I've intuited, is that the astral planes are man made. To understand that, one would need to know that to the shaman, thoughts are things. They are not just nebulous abstractions that disappear or dissolve over time. They exist and so they have to go somewhere. So according to my experience, every thought .. every dream, hope, prayer, fear or fantasy that man has ever had is on the astral planes.

Now, conversely, my experience is that the other dimensions, which are beyond the astral planes and that I visit to meet with the benevolent entities, are not man-made. They are the domains of those spirits and everything there is created by them, it seems to me, with the sole purpose of supporting the spiritual evolution of man.

How do I know they're benevolent?

Well, how do you know if someone loves you? Or hates you? You just know. I judge a tree by its fruits ... the fruits that I'm harvesting from these spirits are fresh, sweet, juicy and more importantly, life supporting. They have taught me how to love unconditionally and there are so many other wonderful benefits I've derived from being in their company. From this practice over the years, they have made my life quite extraordinary and beautiful. They have helped me confront and work to transcend the parts of my personality which, shall we say, were not serving my highest interests ~ learned behaviour patterns, in other words. So there was some pain to go through... and there may be more (probably will be!). So it's not a path of roses. But nevertheless, I love the life I have now ... because I have learned how to love life, however simple and quiet it is. Sometimes the more simple and quiet the better ... it gives you the space to fully appreciate what you're being given.

My main experience is that everything is made of and resonates with Love. And so when I'm resonating on that frequency, I'm in tune with my environment, at one with Nature, and feeling happy because I feel like the human being was always meant to feel. That's my opinion, anyway.

But I hasten to add, this is not about starting another religion or belief system. I don't want people to believe me, or follow me. I don't want to be anyone's guru or priest that intercedes on their behalf and tells them what to believe. The latter to me, is part of the problem that we have now. This interceding on our behalf has disempowered us and cut us off from our own power.

I would like it, though, if more people could get themselves tuned into this, and become self-empowered again, by their own experiences with these beings because, at the very least, it would banish all of the suffering caused by others trying to control us.

Oh ... and no blood sacrifices are required! ;)

I hope this helps, and thanks for asking.

[Chester]

The impression I get about you, Ishtar, is that you found a way to achieve gnosis. Your heart is golden in that you want to share your method with others. You appear to have dedicated your life to this sharing and to continuing your own, personal journey and growth. Several of your posts have been particularly helpful in my process of shedding quite a bit of my own, self generated BS. I am appreciative, Ishtar... justone.

[Ishtar]

The impression I get about you, Ishtar, is that you found a way to achieve gnosis. Your heart is golden in that you want to share your method with others. You appear to have dedicated your life to this sharing and to continuing your own, personal journey and growth. Several of your posts have been particularly helpful in my process of shedding quite a bit of my own, self generated BS. I am appreciative, Ishtar... justone.

Well, you know, justone...I'm growing to appreciate you too! :kiss:

I totally admire your honesty and ability to analyse yourself critically.

Thanks for being such a good example!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

How do you know the spirits you communicate with are entirely benevolent? Isn't there the possibiliy they (or some of them) are masterful deceivers? The way they apparently think of us humans is very flattering but could be used as a trap too. I don't doubt our ancestors have been in contact with these spirits but they may have also worshipped and done blood sacrifices for them by their demand, as has been done through-out history.

This is a good question. It is hard to answer for the uninitiated, but this is another reason that I work with a formal teacher. In shamanic training, at least in our tradition, this is one of the first lessons to master. It is possible to discern because at an information level, there is no deception. At that level there is no manifestation through which to deceive. A skilled and experienced shaman has no trouble discerning benevolent or malicious intention. The only trouble is if the practitioner forgets to do so. Again, only speaking from my own lineage. Others may have a different response.

[SKAWF]

I am only talking of my own experience, which I was shown by a shaman teacher. He didn't give me any beliefs or dogma or cosmological models to learn and believe in. He just gave me a key, metaphorically-speaking, to unlock my own experience. So this is all I offer. No belief system, no dogma, no blind faith, no stories that cannot be verified. Just a simple technique.


How do I know they're benevolent?



same here.
no words, no doctrine
nothing to rationalize
just a set of keys,........

that said, i had to find a point of balance for myself.

also, what given, was given without love OR malice.
it was as neutral as light coming out of the darkness.

[aranuk]

----

And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

All that farmer wants is to stay in business. He doesn't feel compassion for any cows that suffer, are sick, or go to the slaughterhouse. That's not the game he's playing. His goal is completely different.

This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

Hi Bill. Thank goodness there is more than one ship navigating the oceon of life, If the controllers have decided to abandon their ship, Mother earth is not the ship that is sinking, But the contollers inability to navigate on Mother Earth anymore, it will not be woman and children first, The sevice to self Captain will be first in this instance trying to save their own neck. Leaving their slave masters with no direction or to drown.

Maybe it will be up to ships that navigate with Mother Earth to rescue the drowning and assist them with the kiss of life

My ship is not sinking, Is anyone elses

Bon Voyage is all i can say.

Peace

Hi Billy, my ship is definitely not sinking either I am glad to say. My ship has enough lifeboats and life jackets aboard for all who sail in her.

Stan

[Ishtar]

that said, i had to find a point of balance for myself.


I think I know what you mean, if it's the same thing that I went through. I was in awe of the spirits to start with, because of religious conditioning. But then I gradually got more at ease and eventually realised that it was about working in partnership, in an equal and mutually respectful way.

The other balance I had to get right was being able to work in different dimensions and then when back here, be totally grounded into this one. I think my feet were hovering off the ground for some time, when I first began training and it is important to remain grounded, in connection with the Earth (as justoneman said earlier). And that may sound contradictory ... that you're 'journeying' to the furthest reaches while at the same time, remaining grounded on the Earth. But it's because in reality, when you're journeying, you're not really going anywhere. It's all here and now in the present ... it's just that we have to view it as "journey where we go somewhere" to satisfy that logical bit of our minds that can only deal with stuff happening in time and space.

[Bill Ryan]

I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.


Hey Bill,

I can´t wait to see the data and presentation.

If you´re correct, it will prove my thesis that 99% of what is spread in the alternative media is exactly the contrary of what really is supposed to happen, because that´s what I think the alternative media is nowadays; a 180° diversion; an illusionist trick.

I promise to use all my analytic capacity to either make your points stronger or to find eventual flaws in them.

This is a very serious scenario.

Cheers,

Raf.


Done. :)

I've just started a new thread, called From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis

Please comment intelligently and constructively. It's disquieting reading, and may provide a lot of food for thought.

It may not be valid -- but if it is, we need to know, and understand this complexity as well as we can.

Regarding Drake -- :focus:

[aranuk]

There are some here who are Drake well wishers, who wish the clean up plan is a success. There are others here in larger numbers it seems to me that attack and judge these same people with an emotional gusto which in my way of reckoning points to a shadow part of themselves. This shadow part as Jung describes as the part which is not recognized as part of themselves. It is the gullible self they don't want to own. If they did own it in their own psyche they would NOT project it onto others so much or not at all. If they owned it and integrated within their psyche it would dissolve its emotional energy. This phenomenon is explained by Hal & Sidra Stone in their book "Embracing ourselves" explaining the Voice dialogues. John Kent voice dialogues 1-3 on youtube each part 15 minutes explains the method.

Stan

[Unified Serenity]

There are some here who are Drake well wishers, who wish the clean up plan is a success. There are others here in larger numbers it seems to me that attack and judge these same people with an emotional gusto which in my way of reckoning points to a shadow part of themselves. This shadow part as Jung describes as the part which is not recognized as part of themselves. It is the gullible self they don't want to own. If they did own it in their own psyche they would NOT project it onto others so much or not at all. If they owned it and integrated within their psyche it would dissolve its emotional energy. This phenomenon is explained by Hal & Sidra Stone in their book "Embracing ourselves" explaining the Voice dialogues. John Kent voice dialogues 1-3 on youtube each part 15 minutes explains the method.

Stan

You know stan, maybe if in the beginning some of the Drake supporters did not get so nasty in response to those who tried to point out the errors of what Drake was saying, then some comments from those not trusting Drake would not have felt so nasty to you. There is an aggressive mocking energy that has come from the "love and light" crowd here and finally those on the "I don't believe Drake" side started mirroring it back then finally the Drake supporters quit doing it so much. This episode has been playing out a while, and once a "feud" for lack of a better word gets started, people often lose sight of what started it in the first place.

If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful. Often times we say we are truth seekers when in fact we are truth validating for ourselves and when we think we have it all figured out, we only want to listen to those who agree with us. We don't take emails disagreeing with us, we don't take callers disagreeing with us, we don't allow others to disagree with us and therefore we try every trick in the book to shut them down from group think, mocking, insulting, hurting their feelings, shunning, ostracizing, sending on vacation by making sure you have the mods in your back pocket whenever possible. Yes, it all get's played out. The thing I love the best, is that at least with Drake there is a time line and actual activity that is supposed to go on and it is not just nebulous spiritual theory which one can argue about until the cows come home.

[aranuk]

Hi US you say "If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful."
In the same sentence that you ask that we treat others with respect, you quote only accusations against your side. When you say we ask that we treat others with respect, you would be better quoting the other accusations that your side have called the other side, that would be balance. I don't wish to go back and quote them as that would add to the fire.

Stan

[SKAWF]

that said, i had to find a point of balance for myself.


I think I know what you mean, if it's the same thing that I went through. I was in awe of the spirits to start with, because of religious conditioning. But then I gradually got more at ease and eventually realised that it was about working in partnership, in an equal and mutually respectful way.

The other balance I had to get right was being able to work in different dimensions and then when back here, be totally grounded into this one. I think my feet were hovering off the ground for some time, when I first began training and it is important to remain grounded, in connection with the Earth (as justoneman said earlier). And that may sound contradictory ... that you're 'journeying' to the furthest reaches while at the same time, remaining grounded on the Earth. But it's because in reality, when you're journeying, you're not really going anywhere. It's all here and now in the present ... it's just that we have to view it as "journey where we go somewhere" to satisfy that logical bit of our minds that can only deal with stuff happening in time and space.

i have to say, at this point, i'm struggling a bit.
there was a post someone else wrote in another thread,
which pretty much brought me to a stop.
and now you today.

i thought my thing was entirely specific to me.
as in relative ONLY to me.
so to find out that there are others doing similar things is a new one for me.
ive not had to convey to anyone else the erm.... 'specific nature' of some of it
which is why i find myself coming to a grinding halt.

that said, when i focused my attention on the projecting forward aspect....
i saw that it happened like strings.
that is to say imagine looking at someone.....
and strings start flying out of them forwards, in a straight line
from the head at first, and then other parts of the body.
and that some strings have already reached their destination
while some others are still where you were.

and balance

it was a couple of things
i had to cease doing things that caused imbalances,
which i accomplished by doing nothing at all
that cleared the way for the rest of it to come through

cheers

[turiya]

My message for today...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46885-David-Wilcock-Green-Light-Wouldn-t-It-Be-Nice&p=514356#post514356

[Unified Serenity]

Hi US you say "If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful."
In the same sentence that you ask that we treat others with respect, you quote only accusations against your side. When you say we ask that we treat others with respect, you would be better quoting the other accusations that your side have called the other side, that would be balance. I don't wish to go back and quote them as that would add to the fire.

Stan

Thanks for missing the whole point of how energies get out of balance Stan. At some point it's best to just set the past aside and start fresh. I see this mocking nasty innuendo pseudo spirituality behavior coming from those who proclaim they are all about love and light. When those who are on the receiving end of that behavior, they tend to push back. Apparently, common sense started taking over here at some point and there were more who questioned the validity of who Drake is and what he is really about. Some fairly negative statements were made by those who many respect in the alt community, and that went a long way to stopping the chorus of Drake supporters and their behavior. At this point it seems quite apparent that Drake is a bs artist, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, and he too like Bill Brockbrader and others will disappear soon enough. There will be no mass arrests of the cabal.

Now, I hope that the next time some new episode starts that people can decide to be civil to one another and not repeat what has been the pattern in the past of name calling and ridicule. Let's just talk with respect to one another.

Edit:

Stan, I also want to say that my comments about those who differ from my perspective start name calling and accusatory speech are not directed at you specifically. You have every right to support Drake and want the cabal to end, as I want the cabal to end as well. However, you are very quick to post about what you dislike in posts such as mine or find negative, and yet I have yet to see you post anything to those who support Drake and name call or post negatively about those who are not supportive of Drake. You tend not to throw poo and yet you defend those who are in agreement of you who do.

[Khaleesi]

Hi US you say "If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful."
In the same sentence that you ask that we treat others with respect, you quote only accusations against your side. When you say we ask that we treat others with respect, you would be better quoting the other accusations that your side have called the other side, that would be balance. I don't wish to go back and quote them as that would add to the fire.

Stan

Actually, I think you must have skimmed Serenity's post to come to the conclusions you posted here. Serenity stated that the 'Drake doubters' eventually responded in kind. Is it so hard to admit that 'your side' was wrong in the way they treated some members? My take on what Serenity posted is quite different from yours. I see an admission that BOTH sides could have responded with more kindness and willingness to allow for opposing viewpoints. I don't see that in your post. She didn't quote 'negative' post from either side, so there is balance. Perhaps if you quoted the negative posts from 'your side' you could ask her to do the same. In my mind until you do this, you have no reason to ask her to quote negative posts from 'her side'.

[9eagle9]

I can be mocking all I want because I don't pretend to be all love and light. So have no self proclaimed role to live up to...

ah....freedom.



Hi US you say "If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful."
In the same sentence that you ask that we treat others with respect, you quote only accusations against your side. When you say we ask that we treat others with respect, you would be better quoting the other accusations that your side have called the other side, that would be balance. I don't wish to go back and quote them as that would add to the fire.

Stan

Thanks for missing the whole point of how energies get out of balance Stan. At some point it's best to just set the past aside and start fresh. I see this mocking nasty innuendo pseudo spirituality behavior coming from those who proclaim they are all about love and light. When those who are on the receiving end of that behavior, they tend to push back. Apparently, common sense started taking over here at some point and there were more who questioned the validity of who Drake is and what he is really about. Some fairly negative statements were made by those who many respect in the alt community, and that went a long way to stopping the chorus of Drake supporters and their behavior. At this point it seems quite apparent that Drake is a bs artist, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, and he too like Bill Brockbrader and others will disappear soon enough. There will be no mass arrests of the cabal.

Now, I hope that the next time some new episode starts that people can decide to be civil to one another and not repeat what has been the pattern in the past of name calling and ridicule. Let's just talk with respect to one another.

Edit:

Stan, I also want to say that my comments about those who differ from my perspective start name calling and accusatory speech are not directed at you specifically. You have every right to support Drake and want the cabal to end, as I want the cabal to end as well. However, you are very quick to post about what you dislike in posts such as mine or find negative, and yet I have yet to see you post anything to those who support Drake and name call or post negatively about those who are not supportive of Drake. You tend not to throw poo and yet you defend those who are in agreement of you who do.

[Unified Serenity]

I can be mocking all I want because I don't pretend to be all love and light. So have no self proclaimed role to live up to...

ah....freedom.



Hi US you say "If we all treat each other with respect, not accuse those who disagree with us as being Agents, negative, fear mongers, naysayers etc. then we can have open discussions which are much more fruitful."
In the same sentence that you ask that we treat others with respect, you quote only accusations against your side. When you say we ask that we treat others with respect, you would be better quoting the other accusations that your side have called the other side, that would be balance. I don't wish to go back and quote them as that would add to the fire.

Stan

Thanks for missing the whole point of how energies get out of balance Stan. At some point it's best to just set the past aside and start fresh. I see this mocking nasty innuendo pseudo spirituality behavior coming from those who proclaim they are all about love and light. When those who are on the receiving end of that behavior, they tend to push back. Apparently, common sense started taking over here at some point and there were more who questioned the validity of who Drake is and what he is really about. Some fairly negative statements were made by those who many respect in the alt community, and that went a long way to stopping the chorus of Drake supporters and their behavior. At this point it seems quite apparent that Drake is a bs artist, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, and he too like Bill Brockbrader and others will disappear soon enough. There will be no mass arrests of the cabal.

Now, I hope that the next time some new episode starts that people can decide to be civil to one another and not repeat what has been the pattern in the past of name calling and ridicule. Let's just talk with respect to one another.

Edit:

Stan, I also want to say that my comments about those who differ from my perspective start name calling and accusatory speech are not directed at you specifically. You have every right to support Drake and want the cabal to end, as I want the cabal to end as well. However, you are very quick to post about what you dislike in posts such as mine or find negative, and yet I have yet to see you post anything to those who support Drake and name call or post negatively about those who are not supportive of Drake. You tend not to throw poo and yet you defend those who are in agreement of you who do.

Now now 9e9, we know you have tons of love and seek the light of truth daily. It is fun though watching you preen sometimes.

Hugs,

Serenity

[frozen alchemy]

Can we at least all agree that David Wilcock's 'thorough vetting' of Drake left something to be desired, and remember that in six months when there's another breathless new whistleblower announcement?

[Chester]

There are some here who are Drake well wishers, who wish the clean up plan is a success. There are others here in larger numbers it seems to me that attack and judge these same people with an emotional gusto which in my way of reckoning points to a shadow part of themselves. This shadow part as Jung describes as the part which is not recognized as part of themselves. It is the gullible self they don't want to own. If they did own it in their own psyche they would NOT project it onto others so much or not at all. If they owned it and integrated within their psyche it would dissolve its emotional energy. This phenomenon is explained by Hal & Sidra Stone in their book "Embracing ourselves" explaining the Voice dialogues. John Kent voice dialogues 1-3 on youtube each part 15 minutes explains the method.

Stan

Hi Stan, I have a different take. We can all agree we want the dark cabal to be defeated (amongst other changes we would like to see). And most of us realize we may very well be at the end game stages. Thus the ones you are speaking about are in many ways just as passionate to see an end to this as you are. And many of us, well... I can speak for myself, believe with all our heart and mind that the Drake business is likely a psy-op run by the very forces both of us groups (the believers and non-believers) want to see GONE. And at least this non-believer is concerned that the believers are being duped and that by being duped (distracted), the bad guys get ever closer to their goal. It has zero to do with anyone's shadow side unless you consider all of our zeal to be shadow driven.

That's all there is to it and we non-believers keep pounding it in hopes that some of you believers will wake up (like I did as you may recall because I used to POUND the Drake drum) and we keep at it in case any newcomers happen to start reading about "clarifications."

Isn't it now 72 hours later from the official green light? Or did I miss an announced extension? (again)?

[Ishtar]

I notice there are not many pro-Drakers around in this thread now that the 72-hour deadline is nearly up, give or take or few hours.

I must say, it comes to something when the so-called 'naysayers' have to do their own updates. :violin:

So here is the news...from the Drake camp's Facebook page. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/137466796377979/permalink/160940484030610/)

Nothing has happened ... except for wild storms across the eastern coast of the US which has knocked out the power lines in Virginia and Washington DC, including those to Drake's home, and so he and his wife have had to leave, and may not be able to make the show tomorrow night.

However, as you would expect, the pro-Drake brigade on his Facebook page are already claiming victory, saying that the Cavalry has arrived .. it's just that we can't see them. Oh yes, and Drake is saying to get behind Romney ...to which somebody replied that he is Illuminati.. :mmph:

It's pretty much the same over there as it is in here in that anyone that tries to point out any discrepancies or holes in Drake's 'plan' gets called a troll.

There's also a new speaker for Drake called Great Grammy J, and she's been in touch with Drake and passed on the message about him and his wife having to leave their home through loss of power.

She has also just posted the following in which she claims that world events (SCOTUS, banks being in trouble over LIBOR, stalemate over Syria) which would have happened anyway are all down to the Cavalry...the Cavalry that we can't see.

Oh, and the "Wave of cyber attacks has likely stolen at least $80 million from bank accounts in Europe, the United States and elsewhere, a security report said Tuesday. These were the good guys." Really? $80million is chicken feed and will have no effect on the liquidity of the banks. It may seem a lot to petty thieves though.


URGENT: From ♥ Great Gramy J ♥

AN anonymous insider has just told me:

I am seeing such doubt on The Global Voice 2012 page. The fireworks have started (like DRAKE said they would) The Cavalry is here. But, it's not like in the old western movies. It is precise and methodical.

Look at the SCOTUS Obamacare ruling yesterday. Everyone is getting it wrong so far. It was much bigger than they can imagine.

The Supremes put a limit on the Commerce Clause that the cabal was using to screw us. That was ruled Unconstitutional.

The judges did say it was a tax. Congress does have Constitutional authority to tax. They also have authority to rescind tax. That ruling put the issue back in Congress' Senate lap. Think about this. Now that the Supremes have exposed this Cabal as liars, how are they going to get elected/ This is the biggest tax increase in history. Yes. Congress does have authority to tax us into infinity, but our authority to get rid of a Congress that would dare try , was re affirmed.

A two star General resigned today. He was the Ambassador to Kenya. They will lie and say he did something wrong. He didn't. His part in the fireworks is just starting.
The Biggest General of all had to have his ducks in order. Notice Obama and Hillary were squeezed out of the Mid East process.

This is not something you can just run up into, willie nilly. It has to be done legally and in order.

The Court ruling on SB1070 was a trap and the Cabal fell in. The Cabal hs been regularly going around our Congress. Now they have gone around the court. That was the evidence they needed. The Cabal is pulling a coup, but the Patriots are fighting back.

We do have global support. Look at how Obama was treated in Rio. Look at how Hillary was treated in Moscow.

U.S. ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration is stepping down in a possible forced resignation, The Associated Press reports.

Gration, a former two-star Air Force general, explained his reasons for leaving in a written statement on Friday, saying in part, “differences with Washington regarding my leadership style and certain priorities lead me to believe it’s now time to leave.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/29/us-ambassador-to-kenya-steps-down/#ixzz1zFMxb2gA
Obama’s ambassador to Kenya steps down
dailycaller.com

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov met one-on-one for about an hour in St.-Petersburg, Russia, but could not reach agreement on key elements of U.N. envoy Kofi Annan's proposed plan http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/russia-u-s-fail-to-agree-on-plan-to-end-assad-s-reign-in-syria-1.447811?localLinksEnabled=false

Russia, U.S. fail to agree on plan to end Assad's reign in Syria
www.haaretz.com
Hillary Clinton and the Russian Foreign Minister also discuss the serious risk of destabilizing Jordan and the potential impact on Israel

Cyber attacks hit global banks for $80 mn:
http://news.yahoo.com/cyber-attacks-hit-global-banks-80-mn-study-174313129.html < This was the good guys.
Cyber attacks hit global banks for $80 mn: study
news.yahoo.com
A wave of cyber attacks has likely stolen at least $80 million from bank accounts in Europe, the United States and elsewhere, a security report said Tuesday.

There is much more going on and you will see it soon. Give people a little time to digest. Soon you will see the Obama administration going nuts trying to explain their actions.

Issa and Grassely, along with some Patriots that are trying to save the Republic are taking care of the Holder angle.
Holder is the firewall. None of the bankers will ever see the inside of a courthouse, while Holder is AG. He was their former lawyer. Now he is Prosecutor. He makes deals with them and lets them go. The SCOTUS ruling was important, but the Fast and Furious is more important. Have to get rid of Holder , so the bankers can be brought to justice. That is in progress.

Then we have a job too. We need to energize the people. Nobody can blow off the Nov election because it will be our last chance if we screw it up; if we do not have a truly FREE election before then. We must do everything according to our Constitution or we are no better. It is being done meticulously.

Just like the legal paperwork Americans did 2 re-claim Americas freedom in writing on 2-7-2012 was important, all legal steps being taken are important. Our military was on the ready, in case the Cabal tried any crap after that SCOTUS and Holder vote. You know people have been reporting troop movements all week. That was a warning for the Cabal. Do not try anything. Hillary hasn't been in the country in a month. Nappy and Holder were even in Copenhagen recently. Obama is spending Independence Day in Paris; NOT America.
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I promise. Things are already happening. The fireworks have already begun.

One last thing. Heads-up. The Cabal is going to do their best to start a race war here. Do not. Repeat, do not let your people engage. If they pull the race card, laugh. Say race card declined and end the conversation. No long stories. It is not a good faith conversation and responses will be distorted to make us look like extremists. Do not engage. I can't say it enough. Be aware of any references to race. It's a trap.
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Romney will suffice for no if needbe. He is not CFR, Trilateral or Bilderburg. You may verify. I have. The goal is to remove Obama and the Communist/Marxist minions of the Cabal. We have to stop the bleeding first. Everything is on a timetable. It will not go down all at once. It is already going down in steps.
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This is the most dangerous time this country has ever faced. From now, until Jan and possibly beyond, we need to be hyper vigilant.

This may not be a mass operation, but a methodical one. Do not expecti to see the type of things that the movies portray or you may be disappointed. The Cavalry really has arrived, however they are not on horseback. They are entrenched.
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I have had to lay low recently, otherwise I would have posted this myself. Watch closely and you will see if you know what to look for. END

NOTE FROM ♥ Great Gramy J ♥

I made some changes 2 the info above & I hear the power is out in Virginia & DC. So, IF U have any info, PLEASE post it in this thread.

[Chester]

I can be mocking all I want because I don't pretend to be all love and light. So have no self proclaimed role to live up to...

ah....freedom.


I disagree with you 9eagle9... you are all love and light, albeit very directly! haha

[foreverfan]

SECOND POSSIBILITY: FAKE 'EM OUT AND ANTICIPATE THEIR MOVES

David Wilcock

Secondly, even if the people who told this to Drake are indeed the "good guys," they may have done this to improve their tactical readiness for such an event.

Simply put, we may now be witnessing the implementation of an end-stage plan that was worked into the design all along.

From the beginning, Drake said he would be given a very short notice as to when the arrests would actually happen.

By setting it up like this, the planners get to see what events actually take place when the Cabal conspirators believe their time has come.

What do they do? Who do they call? Where do they run? What's their ultimate contingency plan?

As military strategists, the guys planning the mass arrests have no problem with casualties -- including the credibility of the people they asked to deliver the message.

In terms of the greater good that is served, you "shake the bush and watch all the snakes come out," as Drake has said before.

Whether this is true or not, Drake told me that his insiders said that "every light in the Washington DC offices was on all night" after the alert was issued -- and that they are now "scared ****less and don't know what to do."

_____________________________________________

I guess anything is still possible. I wonder how many of you people are going to listen to Sunday's show? Like I said before, Drake has done more to get the message out than any of us. In that respect it is good. I'm really not sure what to believe about the man and what he says. I'll probably continue to listen to his messages and hope for the best.

Story to be continued...

FF

[mattymoto]

There is some power loss going on, so I would imagine some don't have personal generators and satellite internet. I know the last thing on my mind would be "I need to get to the Drake thread to show my support"


Green light yellow light, I really don't care myself. The only way to stop these criminals is with bullets not words.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

So...um....Sit back and watch the show....which is invisible......umm......

[Unified Serenity]

The justification will begin anew. I just want those truth seekers on here who support the Drake message to allow yourself to step back and ask, "If someone purports to be an insider and giving us updates and is in the know keeps messing up, can they really be speaking truth?" If your doctor were to do this to you, I dare say you would get a new physician. If your car mechanic kept giving you one story after another and you kept coming back and paying him, how many times does he have to be wrong before you think, "Gee, this guy isn't too bright?" Would you keep using him? If you had an employee who was constantly wrong in the reports they gave about a project, how many times would you let them update you before you said, " Ya know, I appreciate your zeal and effort, but all this has wasted my time and energy. I think you should leave and I'll find someone who can give me accurate information from now on."

I am just curious how long you all will trust Drake and DW. This is not the first time DW has supposedly vetted someone who has had to disappear because the truth became very clear to the majority. There is no shame in trusting someone once or twice, but if you continue to do so then I wonder why. Why would you unless you are protecting some belief you have that just doesn't stand up under the light of real truth and facts that your friends can see.

[indigopete]

"In one sudden move -- with a very rapid expiration date -- you crush everyone who has been tracking and supporting this story, and demolish all their hard work."


All 20 of us ? :)

Remember that the whole Drake phenomenon, in the context of world geopolitics, would have amounted to a kid's game in someone's back garden before the age of the internet.

In other words it's a game of pretend. Those that want to play will be excited for a while - some might make it their lives work to keep the game going and others might end up disappointed. But at the end of the day, that's all it is because none of this is rooted in our real everyday lives where it has to be for the game to manifest as a reality.


There are others here in larger numbers it seems to me that attack and judge these same people with an emotional gusto which in my way of reckoning points to a shadow part of themselves. This shadow part as Jung describes as the part which is not recognized as part of themselves. It is the gullible self they don't want to own.

Stan - in the context of the human race as a whole, I'd say that Project Avalon subscribers probably represent the 0.00001 % of the human race who most passionately do want to "recognise and own" that shadow, gullable part of themselves. I mean what are we all doing here if not for that reason ? It's just that some of us want to include a semblance of life experience and common sense in diseminating what guidance we follow and what we don't.

The message of Drake simply conflicts diametrically with what's needed right now in the world. I don't know how you people can't see that. It's like you're blinded by hope and drunk on aspirations like an innocent lover just prior to entering an abusive relationship that ends up in you being battered and soul-hardened for all eternity.

People do not need to be saved - they need to evolve and stand up for themselves which they are currently doing in droves all over the world. Anonymous saviours, wanton bloodletting and agendas of vengeance are centuries old solutions whose relevance is over. (Even if Drake's agenda was genuine, which it's not).

Some say (regarding Drake's predictions for 4th July) "I'm not holding my breath, but I'll be celebrating if it happens" . . . These people have not one clue what they're asking for. You'd better hope that Drake is full of it because if not, we're in for some serious frequency drop downs in this world.

I for one will not be celebrating if this happens because it will have short circuited the true evolution of humanity the same as all the other "savours" did.

I know it's a bit like watching paint dry but at least that will be for real.

Pete

[Ishtar]

....I'm just picking this bit out of Great Grammy's Facebook post.


This is the most dangerous time this country has ever faced. From now, until Jan and possibly beyond, we need to be hyper vigilant.

Whatever happened, then, to the joyous 4th July celebrations?

[Unified Serenity]

Foreverfan you said,


Like I said before, Drake has done more to get the message out than any of us. In that respect it is good. What message has he gotten out more so than others? What truth has he gotten out there that has really opened people's eyes? I dare say that all he has done is tell a story about being some go between of some super secret group of military and governments, and then once he got a stage, he repeated information that has been talked about for decades. He has not informed me of a darn thing, and his initial story is fast becoming the ramblings of a delusional man who wants to be listened to by many. If you can get someone like KC, DW, BR to do an interview with you, then you get a stage. I just wonder what it takes to get them to interview you, it seems in the cases of BB and Drake, an amazing BS story. I want it said, that I have not seen any BS stories coming from BR in a long time. KC seems to be doing some solid work these days of which I am glad.

[Khaleesi]

There is some power loss going on, so I would imagine some don't have personal generators and satellite internet. I know the last thing on my mind would be "I need to get to the Drake thread to show my support"


Green light yellow light, I really don't care myself. The only way to stop these criminals is with bullets not words.

I see comments like this and I cringe. 'bullets not words' WOW! People that believe in the death penalty have been derided for the very fact that innocents are convicted and given the death penalty unjustly. Now it's okay to just kill those that are assumed to be 'the elite' without even a trial. Why? "Because the elite own the courts." is the usual reply. Whoah, major problem here. What about the innocents that WILL be caught in the nets along with the elite? Oh they will reincarnate so it's okay. Hmmm, I never heard that argument stated when the death penalty was being called into question. Cognitive Dissonance Alert!

[foreverfan]

The justification will begin anew. I just want those truth seekers on here who support the Drake message to allow yourself to step back and ask, "If someone purports to be an insider and giving us updates and is in the know keeps messing up, can they really be speaking truth?" If your doctor were to do this to you, I dare say you would get a new physician. If your car mechanic kept giving you one story after another and you kept coming back and paying him, how many times does he have to be wrong before you think, "Gee, this guy isn't too bright?" Would you keep using him? If you had an employee who was constantly wrong in the reports they gave about a project, how many times would you let them update you before you said, " Ya know, I appreciate your zeal and effort, but all this has wasted my time and energy. I think you should leave and I'll find someone who can give me accurate information from now on."

I am just curious how long you all will trust Drake and DW. This is not the first time DW has supposedly vetted someone who has had to disappear because the truth became very clear to the majority. There is no shame in trusting someone once or twice, but if you continue to do so then I wonder why. Why would you unless you are protecting some belief you have that just doesn't stand up under the light of real truth and facts that your friends can see.

I totally respect your opinion. I like to ask everyone a very respectable question...

Why do any of us feel the need to tell people DRAKE IS A FAKE? Why waste your breath. Is it worth your time? Why do you return? Some of you go on... and on... and on...

Ok, the likely hood of Drake being a Fake is about 99%. Good lord... after Cobra and Lady Dragon... LOL. Still, he's doing a great job of just attracting attention to the subject of the cabal. Sadly when the whole deal is done and most of the sheepeople go back to sleep, some people here will feel the need to claim victory. I find this oddly disturbing.

The Cabal is going to collapse under their own weight. The signs are happening all around us. The Military and Police will have to take a side... This is where the road will meet the pavement. What we should be doing is getting these people to wake up. I think this maybe the only thing positive that will come out of Drake's brief existence. We need them to wake up big time.

It will be a sad that after I post this few people will take on the fight to educate the sheepeople. The real discussion should be about what you are doing to wake up people.

Everybody needs to see this video. Sadly it only has 1300 hits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96c2wXcNA7A

[Unified Serenity]

So, rather than answer my question Foreverfan, you find the need for me to believe and say what I believe. You said,


Like I said before, Drake has done more to get the message out than any of us. In that respect it is good.

What message did he get out that was so important ?

[Khaleesi]

That's all there is to it and we non-believers keep pounding it in hopes that some of you believers will wake up (like I did as you may recall because I used to POUND the Drake drum) and we keep at it in case any newcomers happen to start reading about "clarifications."

Isn't it now 72 hours later from the official green light? Or did I miss an announced extension? (again)?

Foreverfan, this should answer the question you are asking of Serenity. Although this is a quote by justoneman and not Serenity, I believe it still applies.

[LarryC]

<< I totally respect your opinion. I like to ask everyone a very respectable question...

Why do any of us feel the need to tell people DRAKE IS A FAKE? Why waste your breath. Is it worth your time? Why do you return? Some of you go on... and on... and on...

Ok, the likely hood of Drake being a Fake is about 99%. Good lord... after Cobra and Lady Dragon... LOL. Still, he's doing a great job of just attracting attention to the subject of the cabal. Sadly when the whole deal is done and most of the sheepeople go back to sleep, some people here will feel the need to claim victory. I find this oddly disturbing. >>

Maybe this is being overly optimistic, but I don't think it's that easy to go back to sleep once you've been awakened even slightly -at least the way things are now. So as I see it, the worst case scenario is that Drake is disinfo and, as you say, he's still helping to wake people up. In that case, the motive is to discredit all information of this type. Only I don't think it will play out that way. I think you have to always look for another layer. Deception behind the truth, but Truth behind the deception.

[Chester]

<< I totally respect your opinion. I like to ask everyone a very respectable question...

Why do any of us feel the need to tell people DRAKE IS A FAKE? Why waste your breath. Is it worth your time? Why do you return? Some of you go on... and on... and on...

Ok, the likely hood of Drake being a Fake is about 99%. Good lord... after Cobra and Lady Dragon... LOL. Still, he's doing a great job of just attracting attention to the subject of the cabal. Sadly when the whole deal is done and most of the sheepeople go back to sleep, some people here will feel the need to claim victory. I find this oddly disturbing. >>

Maybe this is being overly optimistic, but I don't think it's that easy to go back to sleep once you've been awakened even slightly -at least the way things are now. So as I see it, the worst case scenario is that Drake is disinfo and, as you say, he's still helping to wake people up. In that case, the motive is to discredit all information of this type. Only I don't think it will play out that way. I think you have to always look for another layer. Deception behind the truth, but Truth behind the deception.

Just a page or so back Post #2668 -

"I can speak for myself, believe with all our heart and mind that the Drake business is likely a psy-op run by the very forces both of us groups (the believers and non-believers) want to see GONE. And at least this non-believer is concerned that the believers are being duped and that by being duped (distracted), the bad guys get ever closer to their goal."

Some of us are convinced that the falling for this garbage actually helps the very cabal these Drake fans want taken out of the picture.

Plain, clear, simple.

Any more clarifications needed?

justone

[LarryC]

<< Some of us are convinced that the falling for this garbage actually helps the very cabal these Drake fans want taken out of the picture.

Plain, clear, simple.

Any more clarifications needed? >>

Maybe it's a bit too plain, clear and simple.

[gripreaper]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7016/692899pa6.gif

[foreverfan]

So, rather than answer my question Foreverfan, you find the need for me to believe and say what I believe. You said,


Like I said before, Drake has done more to get the message out than any of us. In that respect it is good.

What message did he get out that was so important ?

Just getting out the message that there is a Cabal that needs to be removed. Most of us know what's going on but the sheepeople do not. The masses are clueless but do you doubt that more than a few have been exposed to the truth and now see things in a new light. Anybody that watches the video I posted will certainly look at the MSM in a different light. I have see many videos on the subject and I find this one the best explanation of the entire problem.

I really appreciate all of the insight in everybody's post here but I feel we're missing the mark. If Drake's basic message resonates with you then you should want to get the word out to as many people as possible. I wish this thread would take a different turn and come full circle to a positive message of JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT FINANCIAL TYRANNY. Forget about pushing Drake. Who cares if he's not the real deal. In the end, it most likely won't matter. What will matter is people being informed and being exposed to the basic material.

Who cares if Wilcock, Fulford, Wood, Drake, Cobra or Lady Dragon are correct in their predictions. In an odd way, it's been fun, but since it ain't gonna happen... let's take the basic message of FREEDOM to the next level. We need to be free of this BS. It's not about Rep vs Dem, Gay vs Straight, Black vs White, Male vs Female...ect. It's about Tyranny and Freedom. This is the message that I feel Drake has done the most to promote.

I'm sure the time is coming when both the Police and the Military will need to WAKE UP or have a show down with the masses and it won't matter if Drake is still around. That day is coming. Please... Please... Please... don't lose the hope... Forget Drake and continue to do the work to enlighten people to the basic message. This is the only reason I was attracted to his message in the first place.

In any case, sometime I feel that too many people here feel the need to get people told and don't put enough emphasis on the true meaning of the base message. I know at heart, we all share Drake's awakening although the story he presents is an obvious distortion.

Oddly I will still listen to Sunday's show... the only thing I can do from my current perspective is to wake people up. I don't talk to others about Drake, Fulford, Wilcock... but there are hundreds of great YouTube videos that are 1000 times better than watching the MSM.

FF

[foreverfan]

Maybe this is being overly optimistic, but I don't think it's that easy to go back to sleep once you've been awakened even slightly -at least the way things are now. So as I see it, the worst case scenario is that Drake is disinfo and, as you say, he's still helping to wake people up. In that case, the motive is to discredit all information of this type. Only I don't think it will play out that way. I think you have to always look for another layer. Deception behind the truth, but Truth behind the deception.

They may discredit Drake, but the truth has a way of sticking with people. Just look at the Ron Paul movement. It might not happen this year, but something will happen... good or bad. We just need as many people to be AWAKE when it happens.

I'm not so short sighted to think that Drake's basic message won't slowly wake up people who want to know what's wrong with the USA. There are many people looking for answers and while Drake may not be the answer, people have to start somewhere. Just look at Youtube videos that deal with the Cabal and how the views have went up in the past few months. The message is out there for people to see. Even puppies eventually open their eyes.

[aranuk]

Well, Drake has assured us that there is a “Green Light” for the military to move forward this week and arrest all of the bad guys in the global cabal, of course, with the help of ET’s sprinkling strategic Faerie dust into the cabal’s nervous systems to render them immobile, so that they cannot sneak away but will actually die and be returned to the Great Central Sun, because several of the States have notified the Hague of their sovereignty, and have extricated themselves from the UNITED STATES corporatocracy and will no longer adhere to the mandates of this corporate government and thus the military has decided to move forward after Drake sent them an ultimatum and told them they better get with it or he will take his militia buddies and take matters into his own hands.

BUT, if IN FACT there are over 28 States which have IN FACT severed their ties to the corporate UNITED STATES to where the military can IN FACT act on the peoples behalf, then why not follow the ONLY Constitutional provision written into the Constitution by our forefathers who foresaw the inevitability that tyranny would one day take over the representative Republic of the Sovereign States of original colonies, and CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

IF the restoration of this Republic is the ultimate goal ,and the rescission and repeal of the 13th amendment and all subsequent amendments, as well as the Federal Reserve’s fiat money system at interest, and the unlawful income tax, and the many alphabet agencies which do the cabals bidding being abolished as well as the military acting as the cabal’s global police force, then CALL A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!

The Constitutional Convention IS THE ONLY PROVISION written into the Constitution for the people to restore representative government, by 28 states calling for one, and the immediate repeal of all unlawful acts, executive orders, and amendments. THIS IS the provision our forefathers put into the Constitution because they saw the inevitability of tyranny eventually recapturing our representative Republic.

One fell swoop, it’s all solved, LAWFULLY AND PEACEFULLY.

Hi Grip, who can do that? Does it need an elected politician to do it? Why don't you do it now? Why doesn't someone else do it? What are the obstacles in doing it? Can you clarify please?


Stan

[Chuck]

I posted a similar note Bill's "ultimate hypothesis" thread.

Drake and company's story about all the bad guys being rounded up and jailed (cough, cough) could possibly be a smoke screen (spin story) for an actual fact of them (the elites) quietly disappearing to go underground or off world. When and if this happens (them disappearing) does not mean justice is being delivered... at least not in the way you expect, but rather a kill shot (or cleanse shot) of solar or galactic proportions is about to be delivered.

Personally, if it happens, I plan to put on my silver surf board and ride that kill/DNAmutating/cleansing/alterating/ shot back to it's source.

[Unified Serenity]

So, rather than answer my question Foreverfan, you find the need for me to believe and say what I believe. You said,


Like I said before, Drake has done more to get the message out than any of us. In that respect it is good.

What message did he get out that was so important ?

Just getting out the message that there is a Cabal that needs to be removed. Most of us know what's going on but the sheepeople do not. The masses are clueless but do you doubt that more than a few have been exposed to the truth and now see things in a new light. Anybody that watches the video I posted will certainly look at the MSM in a different light. I have see many videos on the subject and I find this one the best explanation of the entire problem.

I really appreciate all of the insight in everybody's post here but I feel we're missing the mark. If Drake's basic message resonates with you then you should want to get the word out to as many people as possible. I wish this thread would take a different turn and come full circle to a positive message of JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT FINANCIAL TYRANNY. Forget about pushing Drake. Who cares if he's not the real deal. In the end, it most likely won't matter. What will matter is people being informed and being exposed to the basic material.

Who cares if Wilcock, Fulford, Wood, Drake, Cobra or Lady Dragon are correct in their predictions. In an odd way, it's been fun, but since it ain't gonna happen... let's take the basic message of FREEDOM to the next level. We need to be free of this BS. It's not about Rep vs Dem, Gay vs Straight, Black vs White, Male vs Female...ect. It's about Tyranny and Freedom. This is the message that I feel Drake has done the most to promote.

I'm sure the time is coming when both the Police and the Military will need to WAKE UP or have a show down with the masses and it won't matter if Drake is still around. That day is coming. Please... Please... Please... don't lose the hope... Forget Drake and continue to do the work to enlighten people to the basic message. This is the only reason I was attracted to his message in the first place.

In any case, sometime I feel that too many people here feel the need to get people told and don't put enough emphasis on the true meaning of the base message. I know at heart, we all share Drake's awakening although the story he presents is an obvious distortion.

Oddly I will still listen to Sunday's show... the only thing I can do from my current perspective is to wake people up. I don't talk to others about Drake, Fulford, Wilcock... but there are hundreds of great YouTube videos that are 1000 times better than watching the MSM.

FF

Here is the problem with Drake and the Drakes of this world and those who give them a platform and the people who run after him like a drug addict seeing their next fix ----

Wait for it----



Wait for it-----


Wait for it-----


Wait for it ----

(this waiting and waiting looks stupid doesnt it?)

Wait for it-----







wait for it------









IT'S CALLED DISINFORMATION


It serves a purpose. It causes people who would look for truth to stop. When Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, David Wilcock, X , Y, Z reporter gets caught up with an absolute NUTCASE, they LOSE credibility. Then the next time one of them has something to say which is important, no one will listen. It's akin to the boy who cried wolf. Eventually there is a real wolf, but no one believes them. There is a real plan coming together by the elites, ptb, cabal, whatever you want to call them. They want to make sure NO ONE listens to warn of it before it goes down. So Avalon must be discredited along with any other site of truth seekers.

Now do you get it?

[9eagle9]

A repeat from about five pages back. There are no less than five active threads occurring on the forum that demonstrates what is truly ailing us.

I emphasize the Drake camp is not participating in those threads. However a number of his detractors are.

You can't educate sheeple. They're sheeple for a reason.

But in a certain respect it really doesn't matter if Drake 'takes' care of them. Or someone.

Someone will have to be saddled with them I suppose.



The justification will begin anew. I just want those truth seekers on here who support the Drake message to allow yourself to step back and ask, "If someone purports to be an insider and giving us updates and is in the know keeps messing up, can they really be speaking truth?" If your doctor were to do this to you, I dare say you would get a new physician. If your car mechanic kept giving you one story after another and you kept coming back and paying him, how many times does he have to be wrong before you think, "Gee, this guy isn't too bright?" Would you keep using him? If you had an employee who was constantly wrong in the reports they gave about a project, how many times would you let them update you before you said, " Ya know, I appreciate your zeal and effort, but all this has wasted my time and energy. I think you should leave and I'll find someone who can give me accurate information from now on."

I am just curious how long you all will trust Drake and DW. This is not the first time DW has supposedly vetted someone who has had to disappear because the truth became very clear to the majority. There is no shame in trusting someone once or twice, but if you continue to do so then I wonder why. Why would you unless you are protecting some belief you have that just doesn't stand up under the light of real truth and facts that your friends can see.

I totally respect your opinion. I like to ask everyone a very respectable question...

Why do any of us feel the need to tell people DRAKE IS A FAKE? Why waste your breath. Is it worth your time? Why do you return? Some of you go on... and on... and on...

Ok, the likely hood of Drake being a Fake is about 99%. Good lord... after Cobra and Lady Dragon... LOL. Still, he's doing a great job of just attracting attention to the subject of the cabal. Sadly when the whole deal is done and most of the sheepeople go back to sleep, some people here will feel the need to claim victory. I find this oddly disturbing.

The Cabal is going to collapse under their own weight. The signs are happening all around us. The Military and Police will have to take a side... This is where the road will meet the pavement. What we should be doing is getting these people to wake up. I think this maybe the only thing positive that will come out of Drake's brief existence. We need them to wake up big time.

It will be a sad that after I post this few people will take on the fight to educate the sheepeople. The real discussion should be about what you are doing to wake up people.

Everybody needs to see this video. Sadly it only has 1300 hits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96c2wXcNA7A

[Maunagarjana]

<< I totally respect your opinion. I like to ask everyone a very respectable question...

Why do any of us feel the need to tell people DRAKE IS A FAKE? Why waste your breath. Is it worth your time? Why do you return? Some of you go on... and on... and on...

Ok, the likely hood of Drake being a Fake is about 99%. Good lord... after Cobra and Lady Dragon... LOL. Still, he's doing a great job of just attracting attention to the subject of the cabal. Sadly when the whole deal is done and most of the sheepeople go back to sleep, some people here will feel the need to claim victory. I find this oddly disturbing. >>

Maybe this is being overly optimistic, but I don't think it's that easy to go back to sleep once you've been awakened even slightly -at least the way things are now. So as I see it, the worst case scenario is that Drake is disinfo and, as you say, he's still helping to wake people up. In that case, the motive is to discredit all information of this type. Only I don't think it will play out that way. I think you have to always look for another layer. Deception behind the truth, but Truth behind the deception.

Just a page or so back Post #2668 -

"I can speak for myself, believe with all our heart and mind that the Drake business is likely a psy-op run by the very forces both of us groups (the believers and non-believers) want to see GONE. And at least this non-believer is concerned that the believers are being duped and that by being duped (distracted), the bad guys get ever closer to their goal."

Some of us are convinced that the falling for this garbage actually helps the very cabal these Drake fans want taken out of the picture.

Plain, clear, simple.

Any more clarifications needed?

justone

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

[foreverfan]

Here is the problem with Drake and the Drakes of this world and those who give them a platform and the people who run after him like a drug addict seeing their next fix ----

Wait for it----

IT'S CALLED DISINFORMATION


It serves a purpose. It causes people who would look for truth to stop. When Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, David Wilcock, X , Y, Z reporter gets caught up with an absolute NUTCASE, they LOSE credibility. Then the next time one of them has something to say which is important, no one will listen. It's akin to the boy who cried wolf. Eventually there is a real wolf, but no one believes them. There is a real plan coming together by the elites, ptb, cabal, whatever you want to call them. They want to make sure NO ONE listens to warn of it before it goes down. So Avalon must be discredited along with any other site of truth seekers.

Now do you get it?

I get it... but... that's just a problem we have to deal with that... guess what... ain't going away. My mama always told me that if you are always part of the solution, then you ain't part of the problem. Is Drake a problem? Maybe... Maybe not. I choose to believe that he has provided our side with valuable new enlightened members who weren't even on the map before.

Your point is well taken and my point is nobody is doubting you. Now we must move on to the next part of the solution and that is to turn the tide. Don't promote Drake. Promote someone like Damon Vrabel instead. Try to get your more educated friends to look at his stuff on YouTube.

Be part of the solution... at all times. I'm not saying you're not part of the solution... I just want people to do more to get the word out.

[Unified Serenity]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

Drake is a beacon of light and hope? You mean like this?

TTUQyEr-sg0

[foreverfan]

I was a sheeple once. I believed everything on Fox News. Now I can see right through them. Take healthcare... I predicted that the Supreme Court would uphold the law because it is all about the collapse of the dollar and they would get to a judge. I was just about the only one.

It seems to me to say that you can't educate the Sheeple is a bit of a defeatist attitude. The journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step and we all took it. So I don't believe it for a second. Drake doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The other side will fight back. I expect this.

When the time comes... we're going to need as many awake people as possible. This could still be some time away.

So if was are attracted to the light like a bug, they have won? If that bug zapper was hit by millions of bugs it wouldn't stand a chance. So I run the risk of sounding redundant... embrace the message... not the messenger... and stay out of the light. LOL

FF


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RsMsfpdQU


You can't educate sheeple. They're sheeple for a reason.

But in a certain respect it really doesn't matter if Drake 'takes' care of them. Or someone.

Someone will have to be saddled with them I suppose.

[Wind]

I really hope that people won't be disappointed after 4th of July has passed. Even David Wilcock says that it is highly unlikely that anything will happen. Perhaps it will be a wake-up call for some.

Don't wait for some "Messiah" to save you, because you are the Messiah! We all are.

[9eagle9]

The problem IS going away but only on an INDIVIDUAL level.

The problem has a solution that is at everyone's finger tips. Many people are pounding the Drake drum (and those like him) and some are looking to see what is on the ends of their fingers.



Here is the problem with Drake and the Drakes of this world and those who give them a platform and the people who run after him like a drug addict seeing their next fix ----

Wait for it----

IT'S CALLED DISINFORMATION


It serves a purpose. It causes people who would look for truth to stop. When Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, David Wilcock, X , Y, Z reporter gets caught up with an absolute NUTCASE, they LOSE credibility. Then the next time one of them has something to say which is important, no one will listen. It's akin to the boy who cried wolf. Eventually there is a real wolf, but no one believes them. There is a real plan coming together by the elites, ptb, cabal, whatever you want to call them. They want to make sure NO ONE listens to warn of it before it goes down. So Avalon must be discredited along with any other site of truth seekers.

Now do you get it?

I get it... but... that's just a problem we have to deal with that... guess what... ain't going away. My mama always told me that if you are always part of the solution, then you ain't part of the problem. Is Drake a problem? Maybe... Maybe not. I choose to believe that he has provided our side with valuable new enlightened members who weren't even on the map before.

Your point is well taken and my point is nobody is doubting you. Now we must move on to the next part of the solution and that is to turn the tide. Don't promote Drake. Promote someone like Damon Vrabel instead. Try to get your more educated friends to look at his stuff on YouTube.

Be part of the solution... at all times. I'm not saying you're not part of the solution... I just want people to do more to get the word out.

[Khaleesi]

How can he wake people up by telling lies or inaccuracies? Isn't he just helping them trade one lie for another? How awake can they really be if they are just trading belief of one lie for another?

[frozen alchemy]

Nothing has happened ... except for wild storms across the eastern coast of the US which has knocked out the power lines in Virginia and Washington DC, including those to Drake's home, and so he and his wife have had to leave, and may not be able to make the show tomorrow night.


Lolz. So after all that talk about preparing for a few days to a few week's 'disruption' he had to leave his house cuz of a power outage??? And yes, I know it gets hot in a house without electricity and 100 degrees outside, but he'll have to drive several hundred miles to outrun it. Or find a hotel that does have power.

[LarryC]

For anyone who is wondering how this can be beneficial even if it's not "true," I would point out that part of this growing movement involves global meditations. This may actually have more powerful implications than even something purely political or economic. This unifies people on the level of awareness, where new realities can be created. This is something that Cobra is advocating and many people are participating. The following is from Cobra's latest update on www.portal2012.com.

FjXIstvQeKo

[SKAWF]

How can he wake people up by telling lies or inaccuracies? Isn't he just helping them trade one lie for another? How awake can they really be if they are just trading belief of one lie for another?

on one level yeah, but on another

people only fall for the same ploy so many times.
the elite only have so many tricks up their sleeve
the tricks they have played for so long are begining to lose effectiveness
to the point where each time we see it played...
it becomes more recognisable to more people.

also if anyone here is one of those that get suckered in everytime
eventually something will dawn on them....
but in order for that realisation to take place,
we actually need those liars and cheats out there spreading their love
so that people actually have the experiences they need, to wisen up to the game.


apart from a couple of people in this world...
the only person you can trust,
the only one who's feelings matter,
the only one who's guidance you should rely on,
is yours.

cheers

PS, having looked at a pic, and video of drake...
i dont get anything dodgy from him.

that said, if I was dodgy,
and i wanted to find someone who would appeal to the common man....
i'd pick someone like drake.

he looks a bit like a well respected wise old boy....
everyones favourite grandad
someone the young could look up to
and someone other men might pay attention to when he speaks.

[Avocadess]

Re-posting in full here what I think explains a lot (including about some of the current delays). None of this was written by me and the website source is at the bottom of this post. -- Avocadess

A Comment from Amon Christenson

A Guardian of the Global Accounts, concerning
the Neil Keenan Lawsuit – plus BREAKING NEWS
concerning this suit with which he is providing us.

Posted on June 29, 2012


BREAKING, from Amon:

Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published. A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.

I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal. There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.

Blessings,
Amon


Now, here is Amon’s original comment:

The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.

Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts.

From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.

When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.

The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.

While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America or the American taxpayer.

What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.

Amon Christenson.

When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge. Here is his response to us:

I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.

Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the
cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.

I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted Jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.

Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.

Blessings,
Amon


ALL OF THE ABOVE IS QUOTED AND NONE ARE MY WORDS. -- Avocadess

Source link here: http://alturl.com/3jwdx

[gripreaper]

Saturday Update from Cobra. Green Light has NOT been Issued Yet

"Real Green Light has not been issued yet. When that happens, action will be taken within 24 hours timeframe. This action will be very evident for everyone and nobody will have any more doubts whatsoever.

I have received hints from independent sources that action might indeed take place by Fourth of July. However, they were just hints and I can not completely confirm this. Even if nothing happens by then, rest assured that mass arrests WILL happen"

http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

Many members of the Cabal are now seriously considering “silent surrender” when the Event happens.

So, why is Cobra backpedaling?

[Maunagarjana]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

Drake is a beacon of light and hope? You mean like this?

Funny. However, I said "hope and sanity". Sanity would require a modicum of discernment, right? I knew people would pounce on that part of the sentence, rather than the latter portion about us being inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed. Do you think we're hopelessly screwed and doomed?

[Unified Serenity]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

Drake is a beacon of light and hope? You mean like this?

Funny. However, I said "hope and sanity". Sanity would require a modicum of discernment, right? I knew people would pounce on that part of the sentence, rather than the latter portion about us being inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed. Do you think we're hopelessly screwed and doomed?

Apparently you can't watch either. I pounced on "beacon". LMAO You did make it pretty easy, thanks.

As for sanity and Drake in the same sentence, you have got to be kidding, right?

[Maunagarjana]

Saturday Update from Cobra. Green Light has NOT been Issued Yet

"Real Green Light has not been issued yet. When that happens, action will be taken within 24 hours timeframe. This action will be very evident for everyone and nobody will have any more doubts whatsoever.

I have received hints from independent sources that action might indeed take place by Fourth of July. However, they were just hints and I can not completely confirm this. Even if nothing happens by then, rest assured that mass arrests WILL happen"

http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

Many members of the Cabal are now seriously considering “silent surrender” when the Event happens.

So, why is Cobra backpedaling?

What you interpret as "backpedaling" could also be interpreted as a discrepancy in the information being received. All of the parties involved seem to be getting their information independent from one another, and this could cause variations in the quality of information. If something like this were to actually go down, I would expect such confusion all the way up to the point of it happening. I would like to point out that I'm not a Drake "believer" or "naysayer", I am following this story without any preconceived bias and am trying to treat it in an evenhanded way, unlike many.

That said, I had a thought after reading Bill Ryan's "Ultimate Hypothesis" thread. Could it be that the elites who are planning to leave the planet for the moon or wherever could actually make it possible for a Drake/Cobra style event to happen? Before people reject this in a kneejerk fashion, consider that there may be people high up in the elite circles who are realizing that they are not included in the escape plans, as they had hoped. I don't know about you, but if I were one of them, that would cause me to reconsider a great deal of things. And it might make me think of ways of sabotaging the escape of those who gave me the shaft. And what better way to do that than incarcerate them?

[mattymoto]

This was intended to be a reply to Khaleesi.....

You go right ahead and force their hand with fuzzy feelings and weighted words.

My post did not advocate the murder of innocents, but that did not stop you from jumping to that conclusion.

I am not so deluded to think that I'm going to stop the mountain lion from eating my soft spots by using kind words and understanding- it would take a sharp tool and....oh my heavens......VIOLENCE.

I see your point about the possibility of assuming someone's guilt without investigation, yet nowhere in my post did I say this. Harming a living sentient is not my first course of action.

My statement was harsh, perhaps too harsh. I apologise if it offends, but my level of frustration has reached it's peak. I will not pretend anymore.

I will try to rephrase for the lighthearted:

"These people will not stop just because we say we want them to stop."

Although we may disagree I still love you. The night needs the day, and the warrior needs the philosopher.

[Maunagarjana]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

Drake is a beacon of light and hope? You mean like this?

Funny. However, I said "hope and sanity". Sanity would require a modicum of discernment, right? I knew people would pounce on that part of the sentence, rather than the latter portion about us being inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed. Do you think we're hopelessly screwed and doomed?

Apparently you can't watch either. I pounced on "beacon". LMAO You did make it pretty easy, thanks.

As for sanity and Drake in the same sentence, you have got to be kidding, right?

I was trying to make a larger point that goes beyond the Drake situation, which you may have missed with your singleminded focus on trashtalking anyone who gives off a whiff of Drake support. As for the rest, I don't feel like playing word games or having a "my tunnelvision is better than your tunnelvision" contest with you.

[Avocadess]

It's Sunday -- a day to JOIN TOGETHER IN INTENT for World Liberation out of the shackles of the cruel and criminal secret government(s) worldwide and work to heal ourselves and the Planet. Here is a great video to go with our Sunday meditations which we shall continue to do EVERY SUNDAY until all of humanity is FREED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&;v=FjXIstvQeKo

or

http://alturl.com/sha7o

COBRA put a new blog yesterday at http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

Some excerpts:

"Real Green Light has not been issued yet. When that happens, action will be taken within 24 hours timeframe. This action will be very evident for everyone and nobody will have any more doubts whatsoever....[R]est assured that mass arrests WILL happen. The Cabal must be removed from this planet and that removal will happen within a reasonable timeframe.

"The Event is a worldwide operation. In USA it will happen through the Positive Military. In Canada and Australia it will be a combination of their own Positive Military and Interpol. In Europe, it will be carried out through the positive faction inside Interpol and NATO. In Asia, it will be a combination of Interpol and White Dragon Society. In Latin America it will happen through a certain positive group that has members throughout most of the South / Central America and whose name cannot be disclosed. Situation in Africa is more complex and will receive special assistance."

COBRA then went on to say that the Resistance will give additional support with OPERATON OMEGA PHOENIX. (See his website for video link about Operation Omega Phoenix.)

Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

[foreverfan]

Green Light.... You Missed It.
This is what my head feel like..... (http://gifs.gifbin.com/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1ysODn_1Nr4/TP5hViUnTfI/AAAAAAAAETU/83tqdkgdC1Q/s1600/longer+yellow+light.JPG



Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect $200.
Must Take the Irish Drunk Test. (Short Video Below)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L62c5302pYY

[Chester]

For anyone who is wondering how this can be beneficial even if it's not "true," I would point out that part of this growing movement involves global meditations. This may actually have more powerful implications than even something purely political or economic. This unifies people on the level of awareness, where new realities can be created. This is something that Cobra is advocating and many people are participating. The following is from Cobra's latest update on www.portal2012.com.

FjXIstvQeKo

I agree with you LarryC that this is a significant component (and for me, the number one most effective measure), along with and equally important in having one's feet on the ground (which means living in reality).

This is a powerful video presentation... Thank You, LarryC

[Unified Serenity]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

Drake is a beacon of light and hope? You mean like this?

Funny. However, I said "hope and sanity". Sanity would require a modicum of discernment, right? I knew people would pounce on that part of the sentence, rather than the latter portion about us being inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed. Do you think we're hopelessly screwed and doomed?

Apparently you can't watch either. I pounced on "beacon". LMAO You did make it pretty easy, thanks.

As for sanity and Drake in the same sentence, you have got to be kidding, right?

I was trying to make a larger point that goes beyond the Drake situation, which you may have missed with your singleminded focus on trashtalking anyone who gives off a whiff of Drake support. As for the rest, I don't feel like playing word games or having a "my tunnelvision is better than your tunnelvision" contest with you.

Oh your witty and not a lot of fun. You see, anyone who can use words of Drake like "Beacon", "Hope", and "Sanity" in the same sentence at this point must be joking, and thus I thought of bugs life. But, I see you cannot laugh much either. Enjoy your day.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Green Light.... You Missed It.
This is what my head feel like..... (http://gifs.gifbin.com/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1ysODn_1Nr4/TP5hViUnTfI/AAAAAAAAETU/83tqdkgdC1Q/s1600/longer+yellow+light.JPG



Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect $200.
Must Take the Irish Drunk Test. (Short Video Below)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L62c5302pYY

I laughed a good full belly laugh, thanks Forever.

[Billy]

So...um....Sit back and watch the show....which is invisible......umm......

Do invisible fireworks still go off with a BANG.

Keep the humour up guys

peace

[Chester]

Re-posting in full here what I think explains a lot (including about some of the current delays). None of this was written by me and the website source is at the bottom of this post. -- Avocadess

A Comment from Amon Christenson

A Guardian of the Global Accounts, concerning
the Neil Keenan Lawsuit – plus BREAKING NEWS
concerning this suit with which he is providing us.

Posted on June 29, 2012


BREAKING, from Amon:

Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published. A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.

I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal. There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.

Blessings,
Amon


Now, here is Amon’s original comment:

The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.

Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts.

From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.

When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.

The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.

While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America or the American taxpayer.

What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.

Amon Christenson.

When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge. Here is his response to us:

I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.

Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the
cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.

I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted Jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.

Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.

Blessings,
Amon


ALL OF THE ABOVE IS QUOTED AND NONE ARE MY WORDS. -- Avocadess

Source link here: http://alturl.com/3jwdx

My personal vibe meter rates the validity of this post as HIGH and also considers the source to "sound" quite real as this is the sort of language that comes from real players in this world. I am unable to connect these actions to the Drake scenario, apologies. I know the Drake folks want to piggy back on the Keenan suit (now former lawsuit?) but my concern is that if enough people take this Drake stuff seriously, the cabal, out of desperation, could use this as an excuse to escalate matters into an attempt to impose martial law... remember the motto - "order out of chaos" and we are aware some within humanity, if backed into a corner (as seen from their point of view) could implement plan Bs or Plan Cs, etc.

If we do not take the high road in every step we take, the outcomes will not be what we hope for.

The above comments are directed at that less than 1% chance the Drake stuff is an actual plan (and/or setup) to be used by the cabal.

I am still 99% of the opinion it is a psy-op meant primarily for distraction and misdirection.

[Chester]

Saturday Update from Cobra. Green Light has NOT been Issued Yet

"Real Green Light has not been issued yet. When that happens, action will be taken within 24 hours timeframe. This action will be very evident for everyone and nobody will have any more doubts whatsoever.

I have received hints from independent sources that action might indeed take place by Fourth of July. However, they were just hints and I can not completely confirm this. Even if nothing happens by then, rest assured that mass arrests WILL happen"

http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

Many members of the Cabal are now seriously considering “silent surrender” when the Event happens.

So, why is Cobra backpedaling?

What you interpret as "backpedaling" could also be interpreted as a discrepancy in the information being received. All of the parties involved seem to be getting their information independent from one another, and this could cause variations in the quality of information. If something like this were to actually go down, I would expect such confusion all the way up to the point of it happening. I would like to point out that I'm not a Drake "believer" or "naysayer", I am following this story without any preconceived bias and am trying to treat it in an evenhanded way, unlike many.

That said, I had a thought after reading Bill Ryan's "Ultimate Hypothesis" thread. Could it be that the elites who are planning to leave the planet for the moon or wherever could actually make it possible for a Drake/Cobra style event to happen? Before people reject this in a kneejerk fashion, consider that there may be people high up in the elite circles who are realizing that they are not included in the escape plans, as they had hoped. I don't know about you, but if I were one of them, that would cause me to reconsider a great deal of things. And it might make me think of ways of sabotaging the escape of those who gave me the shaft. And what better way to do that than incarcerate them?

Anyone remember the Gary Seven episode of Star Trek?

One should be quite cautious with regards to any interventions in anyone else's plans (but also anyone else's interventions as well?).

[Khaleesi]

This was intended to be a reply to Khaleesi.....

You go right ahead and force their hand with fuzzy feelings and weighted words.

My post did not advocate the murder of innocents, but that did not stop you from jumping to that conclusion.

I am not so deluded to think that I'm going to stop the mountain lion from eating my soft spots by using kind words and understanding- it would take a sharp tool and....oh my heavens......VIOLENCE.

I see your point about the possibility of assuming someone's guilt without investigation, yet nowhere in my post did I say this. Harming a living sentient is not my first course of action.

My statement was harsh, perhaps too harsh. I apologise if it offends, but my level of frustration has reached it's peak. I will not pretend anymore.

I will try to rephrase for the lighthearted:

"These people will not stop just because we say we want them to stop."

Although we may disagree I still love you. The night needs the day, and the warrior needs the philosopher.

Actually, I don't advocate 'fuzzy feelings and weighted words'. If you will reread my post you will see, I was commenting on "words like this" and your quote was used as an example. I believe in the use of self defense and have no problem defending my self with however much force is necessary. I don't know your views on that, but I have seen similar statements to yours from members that have in the past said they didn't even believe in any self defense. No violence for any reason. I was merely pointing out the cognitive dissonance that has suddenly appeared when the subject of violence against 'the elite' arises. My apologies if it seemed I was singling you out. It was not my intention. I was merely using your quote as an example.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

For anyone who isn't getting the underlying message from those policing/trolling this thread: Any beacon of hope or sanity that would give us any reason to believe we aren't inevitably and hopelessly screwed and doomed MUST be a psyop.

First of all, presenting a different point of view is not trolling. If you think it is, you might be on the wrong forum. This is a place for thinkers, questioners, and wonderful discussions. We are not afraid to question ourselves and each other.

Second of all, as a person with their name firmly in the "Drake is full of it" column, I want to state that I would embrace this sort of news if I felt it was coming from a credible source that made sense. I want to get rid of the cabal as much as anybody, but that does not make Drake credible. Just because I think Drake is a ridiculous charlatan buffoon who just loves attention does not mean that I am cynical or a doomer. One does not follow the other. Discernment is not cynicism.

I do not believe that we are inevitably or hopelessly screwed. At all. But I do think that if people don't have enough common sense to see that Drake is nothing more than an attention seeker who can spin a good fantasy for us then we have a much longer road ahead than I had hoped. This whole debacle only shows me that we as a people are simply not ready to grow up and be responsible for our own destiny. And that's a downer.

YOU are the cavalry. Figure it out. That's what our Friends are waiting for. That's when the cabal will have no chance any more.

[gripreaper]

Drake is on!!!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/27/gvr--drake-mid-week-update--wednesday-1

Let the games begin!!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/quickdraw3/Deer-popcorn.gif

[Fred Steeves]

Oops, wrong turn...Sorry, I was looking for the beer aisle?

[9eagle9]

Nope wait yer in the right place......Duck's Arse IPA or Leg Humper?

[Carmen]

Ohh Fred!! You crack me up! I came on this thread just out of curiosity as to what your comments would be on it!

[SKAWF]

Nope wait yer in the right place......Duck's Arse IPA or Leg Humper?

i'll have a whisky...... straight. with ice, lemonade a cherry and a slice of lemon

[gripreaper]

Well, there ya go:

1. the Cavalry is coming.
2. The militias and civilians are to stand by and the military may call upon them to help.
3. Sit back and watch the fireworks as this is slated to be the best Fourth of July EVER!!!

[aranuk]

Green Light.... You Missed It.
This is what my head feel like..... (http://gifs.gifbin.com/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1ysODn_1Nr4/TP5hViUnTfI/AAAAAAAAETU/83tqdkgdC1Q/s1600/longer+yellow+light.JPG



Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect $200.
Must Take the Irish Drunk Test. (Short Video Below)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L62c5302pYY

That was Scottish BTW.

Stan

[aranuk]

Drake is on!!!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/27/gvr--drake-mid-week-update--wednesday-1

Let the games begin!!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/quickdraw3/Deer-popcorn.gif

Hi Grip that was history. Last Wednesday in fact.

Stan

[9eagle9]

One 'alf pint Guinness with a 'alf pint hard apple cider.

Best drunk from a horn....




Nope wait yer in the right place......Duck's Arse IPA or Leg Humper?

i'll have a whisky...... straight. with ice, lemonade a cherry and a slice of lemon

[gripreaper]

Hi Grip that was history. Last Wednesday in fact.

Stan

So is there no show today?

[modwiz]

One 'alf pint Guinness with a 'alf pint hard apple cider.

Best drunk from a horn....



Doesn't that make for horny drunks? :confused:

[9eagle9]

Argh, willing to risk it laddie?




One 'alf pint Guinness with a 'alf pint hard apple cider.

Best drunk from a horn....



Doesn't that makes for horny drunks? :confused:

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Oops, wrong turn...Sorry, I was looking for the beer aisle?

Sit down, Fred, I got you covered.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/538206_438375599514257_895187325_n.jpg

[Chester]

Looks like the PTB/Ws caused a power outage so they had to resort to reruns in the meantime?

Modwiz - 9eagle9 - you guys need to get a room, please.

[Fred Steeves]

Oops, wrong turn...Sorry, I was looking for the beer aisle?

Sit down, Fred, I got you covered.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/538206_438375599514257_895187325_n.jpg

Well dayum! If it's going to be frosty cold "Drakes" Whiskey-Mystic, put that drink down for a minute brother, and throw a few more on ice while you're at it would ya? Maybe I'm on the right aisle after all?

Men in grocery stores.17209

Fred

[SKAWF]

One 'alf pint Guinness with a 'alf pint hard apple cider.

Best drunk from a horn....




Nope wait yer in the right place......Duck's Arse IPA or Leg Humper?

i'll have a whisky...... straight. with ice, lemonade a cherry and a slice of lemon

i used to drink that years ago!, black velvet they called it.
i used to have it topped with blackcurrent....
it was more like a dessert than an alchololic beverage!
still, that was the 1990's for ya

[9eagle9]

There isn't any room.


Looks like the PTB/Ws caused a power outage so they had to resort to reruns in the meantime?

Modwiz - 9eagle9 - you guys need to get a room, please.

[Avocadess]

There is an updated posting on DAVID WILCOCK's site today -- on www.divinecosmos.com, the new part beginning with this subtitle in red
(in red on his website as well):

UPDATE 7/1: ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT AGAINST ONE OF OUR TOP INSIDERS

This will probably be my last posting on Project Avalon on this thread. I'll be moving my forum updates, such as they may be, to theonetruth (TOT) forum at http://jandeane81.com/forum.php

Cheers

[Whiskey_Mystic]

There is an updated posting on DAVID WILCOCK's site today -- on www.divinecosmos.com, the new part beginning with this subtitle in red
(in red on his website as well):

UPDATE 7/1: ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT AGAINST ONE OF OUR TOP INSIDERS

This will probably be my last posting on Project Avalon on this thread. I'll be moving my forum updates, such as they may be, to theonetruth (TOT) forum at http://jandeane81.com/forum.php

Cheers

Thanks for the heads up, Avocadess.

[foreverfan]

All I have to say is WOW to Wilcock's update (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1062-green-light). Anything is possible.

[Maunagarjana]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

[Unified Serenity]

I have been waiting for this video to come available. The crisis in the world is centered about the failing banks and governments which is about money. The fact is, they are lying. We own it all via investments in state and federal governments. Walter Burien has developed a plan that does not require a revolution of arms, but of thought. This is a win win situation, but the word must get out. Watch this video:


bn3hUcmNDdA

[9eagle9]

Yeah. We're drunk. Gee can't fool you can we?

We weren't so much concerned about the inability of the Drake Crue to handle their booze but keeping them away from the Kool Aid chaser.




After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

[modwiz]

Yeah. We're drunk. Gee can't fool you can we?

We weren't so much concerned about the inability of the Drake Crue to handle their booze but keeping them away from the Kool Aid chaser.




After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

"Watcha doin' with tha' pig?"
"It's not a pig, it's a duck!"
"I was talkin' to the duck!"

[Kimberley]

************

For those asking about Drakes Sunday Show,

Drake was not on the show yesterday because he and his wife were traveling away from their west virginia home due to having no electricity due to the storms in that area. However the show was quite information packed with positive energy.

If you listen to the show at that time Drake had not been heard from... however he did make a Face book post after the show...and all is well!

The regular scheduled Drake shows are Wednesdays at 7pm EST and Sundays 1pm EST

This is the link to the archive of yesterdays show:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/07/01/gvr--drakes-vital-weekend-update--sunday

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network

Much love! :grouphug:

And this is the full show page with past and up coming shows:

[Unified Serenity]

Drake is on!!!

Let the games begin!!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/quickdraw3/Deer-popcorn.gif

I wish this image were like an emoticon and we could just click "deer-popcorn" for those times it seems appropriate. It always makes me laugh.

Thanks

[Unified Serenity]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

Let's play who can insult better shall we? Hmmm, now here's a come back that hopefully is along the same lines....

After reading all the most worshipful followers of Drake threads, I can't help but wonder what they are smoking all the time that they can't tell up from down, in from out, or fantasy from reality.

See it's really easy to throw around words that offer nothing but vitriol for those who disagree, but is that productive? And then, we get all the clicking of posts to report those nasty anti-Drake people who have the gall to mirror all the crap back. Why don't we start a new method and if a comment is not helpful to moving thoughts forward and is primarily nasty in it's focus, let's play nice and not say anything at all, shall we? I think that was once called the "Golden Rule".

[Christine]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

Dear Maunagarjana,

The "spirit" of the last pages has left me laughing so hard my sides hurt, so I am most grateful for the gift of laughter. For some of us it is difficult to take the Drake material seriously, nothing against the guy himself so it isn't an anti-Drake crowd, more like a "wake up folks reality crowd" that found the need to inject some humor.

"Mirth is God's best medicine."

La Tigra

[gripreaper]

See it's really easy to throw around words that offer nothing but vitriol for those who disagree, but is that productive? And then, we get all the clicking of posts to report those nasty anti-Drake people who have the gall to mirror all the crap back. Why don't we start a new method and if a comment is not helpful to moving thoughts forward and is primarily nasty in it's focus, let's play nice and not say anything at all, shall we? I think that was once called the "Golden Rule".

For me, is’ spiritual as well as mental and physical.

Spiritually, I’m going to have to review the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and all of the ancient Veta’s and teachings, because I thought I understood that duality did not exist in Christ consciousness. I may even need to go to the ”Bible” thread and talk to RedeZra about it,(just kidding) because what I have learned from Lady Dragon and Cobra, is that there are wars occurring between bad and good ET’s and that wars and genocide are acceptable operatives to restore balance to the Cosmos, and these Decree’s Come from the Great Central Sun, the highest council of all. I used to think that the inbreath and outbreath of creation, as the fractals of light split off from the source, became conscious, and on the return to source remained conscious. Now I have to try to incorporate into my spiritual structure the notion that some light fractals do lose consciousness and can be returned to source as if they never existed.

Mentally, I have to review all of the concepts of Admiralty Law and Common Law, although I have spent countless hours in the last few years studying these concepts. Drake has postulated certain ways of doing things which are outside my purview. The idea of declaring sovereignty, although many have tried it in the last 30 years, is still relatively new as a global cultural phenomenon, and the idea of extricating from the matrix, extricating from the global corporatocracy and elite controllers, is not that easy to do. Even though Declarations can be sent to the agencies which are in control and which serve as agents to the cabal, it’s not been my experience that the cabal honors those Declarations, or rescissions of adhesion contracts to which we all acquiesced and agreed to, either inadvertently or willingly. The system is very entrenched, the bureaucracies employ over half the population, so in light of the idea that the military is on board with restoring sovereignty, this requires a whole new context from which to live and view the future. I have to get more involved in the local politics at my county level.

Physically, I have to review the way I operate within commerce and provide for my basic physical needs of survival. I have to think of decentralization of all of the basic necessities of food and fuel, become more community oriented, more local, and more self sufficient. I have to be cognizant of a regular detox protocol just to maintain homeostasis, and mitigate the onslaught of toxicity I am exposed to in my daily life. I have to be proactive in decalcifying my pineal gland so that I can access the higher senses, and become more connected to source, without the dualities of the astral plane, which is rampant with agendas.

To become more integrative and merge the spiritual, mental and physical aspects of my being, and unclog my chakras with old outdated beliefs, such as the savior meme, and generate, hold, and focus life force in such a way that it pushes the dross from my chakras moving this energy up the central column of the spine, and activating the upper chakras, in a graceful, compassionate, and loving way, to hopefully open up to a new perspective, and be a part of ushering in a new paradigm of unity consciousness for all to resonate with, is the intention I am holding.

It’s arduous to contemplate as well as implement, and still have time to be a keyboard warrior on the Avalon Drake thread. I hope I’m up for the task.

[Unified Serenity]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

Dear Maunagarjana,

The "spirit" of the last pages has left me laughing so hard my sides hurt, so I am most grateful for the gift of laughter. For some of us it is difficult to take the Drake material seriously, nothing against the guy himself so it isn't an anti-Drake crowd, more like a "wake up folks reality crowd" that found the need to inject some humor.

"Mirth is God's best medicine."

La Tigra

Laughter is great, but in contentious groups it's not helpful to have a good laugh at others expense. It creates animosity. Sure it's funny, but it's been my experience thus far on Avalon that those who can dish it out can't take it, and those of who have taken their crap for a long time are tired of it. If they want to be jerks, then don't click the report button every time one of my posts or another members upsets feelings. I am speaking in general here La Tigra. There is limited moderation on this site, and quite frankly it tends to fall in favor of one standard mindset. The mods are not too heavy handed it seems, but some are very quick to delete posts they find offensive. It is what it is and I've accepted it.

I could sum it up as there is a big difference between being laughed with and laughed at. What you laughed at was not meant as a pure haha, but was an insult to some of us.

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See it's really easy to throw around words that offer nothing but vitriol for those who disagree, but is that productive? And then, we get all the clicking of posts to report those nasty anti-Drake people who have the gall to mirror all the crap back. Why don't we start a new method and if a comment is not helpful to moving thoughts forward and is primarily nasty in it's focus, let's play nice and not say anything at all, shall we? I think that was once called the "Golden Rule".

For me, is’ spiritual as well as mental and physical.

Spiritually, I’m going to have to review the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and all of the ancient Veta’s and teachings, because I thought I understood that duality did not exist in Christ consciousness. I may even need to go to the ”Bible” thread and talk to RedeZra about it, because what I have learned from Lady Dragon and Cobra, is that there are wars occurring between bad and good ET’s and that wars and genocide are acceptable operatives to restore balance to the Cosmos, and these Decree’s Come from the Great Central Sun, the highest council of all. I used to think that the inbreath and outbreath of creation, as the fractals of light split off from the source, became conscious, and on the return to source remained conscious. Now I have to try to incorporate into my spiritual structure the notion that some light fractals do lose consciousness and can be returned to source as if they never existed.

Mentally, I have to review all of the concepts of Admiralty Law and Common Law, although I have spent countless hours in the last few years studying these concepts. Drake has postulated certain ways of doing things which are outside my purview. The idea of declaring sovereignty, although many have tried it in the last 30 years, is still relatively new as a global cultural phenomenon, and the idea of extricating from the matrix, extricating from the global corporatocracy and elite controllers, is not that easy to do. Even though Declarations can be sent to the agencies which are in control and which serve as agents to the cabal, it’s not been my experience that the cabal honors those Declarations, or rescissions of adhesion contracts to which we all acquiesced and agreed to, either inadvertently or willingly. The system is very entrenched, the bureaucracies employ over half the population, so in light of the idea that the military is on board with restoring sovereignty, this requires a whole new context from which to live and view the future. I have to get more involved in the local politics at my county level.

Physically, I have to review the way I operate within commerce and provide for my basic physical needs of survival. I have to think of decentralization of all of the basic necessities of food and fuel, become more community oriented, more local, and more self sufficient. I have to be cognizant of a regular detox protocol just to maintain homeostasis, and mitigate the onslaught of toxicity I am exposed to in my daily life. I have to be proactive in decalcifying my pineal gland so that I can access the higher senses, and become more connected to source, without the dualities of the astral plane, which is rampant with agendas.

To become more integrative and merge the spiritual, mental and physical aspects of my being, and unclog my chakras with old outdated beliefs, such as the savior meme, and generate, hold, and focus life force in such a way that it pushes the dross from my chakras moving this energy up the central column of the spine, and activating the upper chakras, in a graceful, compassionate, and loving way, to hopefully open up to a new perspective, and be a part of ushering in a new paradigm of unity consciousness for all to resonate with.

It’s arduous to contemplate as well as implement, and still have time to be a keyboard warrior on the Avalon Drake thread. I hope I’m up for the task.

I really appreciate your insights Grip, and just say take it one day at a time. Remember to smell the roses, and take time to love yourself. It's easy to get in a rut.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

Dear Maunagarjana,

The "spirit" of the last pages has left me laughing so hard my sides hurt, so I am most grateful for the gift of laughter. For some of us it is difficult to take the Drake material seriously, nothing against the guy himself so it isn't an anti-Drake crowd, more like a "wake up folks reality crowd" that found the need to inject some humor.

"Mirth is God's best medicine."

La Tigra

I have been intentionally trying to manage the mood of the thread without trivializing it. A few chuckles and then back to topic. This thread could be worse in its animosity and it has tried to go that way several times. So my effort has been to present my clear opinions, respect those that differ, and enjoy a little light-hearted humor along the way. It's not my intention to derail the thread or invalidate the core topic.

[Christine]

After reading the last page of posts, I'm beginning to wonder if what I'm interpreting as rudeness by the anti-Drake crowd could really be just them drunk off their asses every time they post. Maybe I should get drunk and see if I experience this thread differently. ;)

Dear Maunagarjana,

The "spirit" of the last pages has left me laughing so hard my sides hurt, so I am most grateful for the gift of laughter. For some of us it is difficult to take the Drake material seriously, nothing against the guy himself so it isn't an anti-Drake crowd, more like a "wake up folks reality crowd" that found the need to inject some humor.

"Mirth is God's best medicine."

La Tigra

Laughter is great, but in contentious groups it's not helpful to have a good laugh at others expense. It creates animosity. Sure it's funny, but it's been my experience thus far on Avalon that those who can dish it out can't take it, and those of who have taken their crap for a long time are tired of it. If they want to be jerks, then don't click the report button every time one of my posts or another members upsets feelings. I am speaking in general here La Tigra. There is limited moderation on this site, and quite frankly it tends to fall in favor of one standard mindset. The mods are not too heavy handed it seems, but some are very quick to delete posts they find offensive. It is what it is and I've accepted it.

I could sum it up as there is a big difference between being laughed with and laughed at. What you laughed at was not meant as a pure ha ha, but was an insult to some of us.

¤=[Post Update]=¤




See it's really easy to throw around words that offer nothing but vitriol for those who disagree, but is that productive? And then, we get all the clicking of posts to report those nasty anti-Drake people who have the gall to mirror all the crap back. Why don't we start a new method and if a comment is not helpful to moving thoughts forward and is primarily nasty in it's focus, let's play nice and not say anything at all, shall we? I think that was once called the "Golden Rule".

For me, is’ spiritual as well as mental and physical.

Spiritually, I’m going to have to review the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and all of the ancient Veta’s and teachings, because I thought I understood that duality did not exist in Christ consciousness. I may even need to go to the ”Bible” thread and talk to RedeZra about it, because what I have learned from Lady Dragon and Cobra, is that there are wars occurring between bad and good ET’s and that wars and genocide are acceptable operatives to restore balance to the Cosmos, and these Decree’s Come from the Great Central Sun, the highest council of all. I used to think that the inbreath and outbreath of creation, as the fractals of light split off from the source, became conscious, and on the return to source remained conscious. Now I have to try to incorporate into my spiritual structure the notion that some light fractals do lose consciousness and can be returned to source as if they never existed.

Mentally, I have to review all of the concepts of Admiralty Law and Common Law, although I have spent countless hours in the last few years studying these concepts. Drake has postulated certain ways of doing things which are outside my purview. The idea of declaring sovereignty, although many have tried it in the last 30 years, is still relatively new as a global cultural phenomenon, and the idea of extricating from the matrix, extricating from the global corporatocracy and elite controllers, is not that easy to do. Even though Declarations can be sent to the agencies which are in control and which serve as agents to the cabal, it’s not been my experience that the cabal honors those Declarations, or rescissions of adhesion contracts to which we all acquiesced and agreed to, either inadvertently or willingly. The system is very entrenched, the bureaucracies employ over half the population, so in light of the idea that the military is on board with restoring sovereignty, this requires a whole new context from which to live and view the future. I have to get more involved in the local politics at my county level.

Physically, I have to review the way I operate within commerce and provide for my basic physical needs of survival. I have to think of decentralization of all of the basic necessities of food and fuel, become more community oriented, more local, and more self sufficient. I have to be cognizant of a regular detox protocol just to maintain homeostasis, and mitigate the onslaught of toxicity I am exposed to in my daily life. I have to be proactive in decalcifying my pineal gland so that I can access the higher senses, and become more connected to source, without the dualities of the astral plane, which is rampant with agendas.

To become more integrative and merge the spiritual, mental and physical aspects of my being, and unclog my chakras with old outdated beliefs, such as the savior meme, and generate, hold, and focus life force in such a way that it pushes the dross from my chakras moving this energy up the central column of the spine, and activating the upper chakras, in a graceful, compassionate, and loving way, to hopefully open up to a new perspective, and be a part of ushering in a new paradigm of unity consciousness for all to resonate with.

It’s arduous to contemplate as well as implement, and still have time to be a keyboard warrior on the Avalon Drake thread. I hope I’m up for the task.

I really appreciate your insights Grip, and just say take it one day at a time. Remember to smell the roses, and take time to love yourself. It's easy to get in a rut.

Unified Serenity, thank you for the reply and your considered words. Of course I wasn't thinking about the comments being targeted at any one in particular, I just saw the humor and thought that it was refreshing to stop taking ourselves so seriously for a moment.

I know there are earnest considerations being weighed here on this thread as each person gains a deeper understanding into their own cosmic make up and takes responsibility for our joint reality. I would like to think that we have reached a level of maturity that doesn't take us into animosity and name calling. Different opinions, points of view could be fodder for thought not contention.

I very much appreciate Gripreapers thoughtful comments that demonstrate the importance of addressing all aspects of Self in dealing with the multiplicity that confronts us at this time.

There really is no time for scapegoating, goading or blaming others, all behaviors that the controllers do get their laughs at.

Ah,...but if we can laugh at ourselves, even for a moment, then we are one step ahead of the game.

La Tigra

[mattymoto]

:confused: Oh boy, here we go!

I guess there is a new new update from D. Wilcock.

and then there is B. Brockbrader allegedly throwing a bull**** flag on David's update.

I would post some links but I'm lazy....

I need a drink- a stiff one, and a lil umbrella would be nice.

I got my mojito, no umbrella. I could only find a bendy straw- good enough for me.

Hmmm, I guess this could be considered fireworks......