Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Avocadess]

Stan:

I actually heard something more recently about John Kettler SUPPORTING Drake and his message. His website seems to support this. I take it he had a change of heart (and new information from his sources):

http://johnkettler.com/etseds-spooks-drake-and-the-plan/

[DreamsInDigital]

I just finished listening to Kerry interviewing John Kettler a week ago. They both were debunking Drake and what he says is going on. They both say "our sources say different". Bill mentions his sources, DW mentions his, Ben Fulford his, Dreamsingital hers, Drake mentions his. I am feeling a wee bit left out here. If someone would like to whisper in my ear, maybe I can have my secret source as well. Any takers?

Stan
Stan,

I think you and others(?) might have things a little confused, John Kettler and his ET/EDs support Drake and the Freedom Movement. Just his 'ground' contacts have been kept out of the loop for one reason or another.

@ Bryn,

Maia here on the forums had an experience with one of the EGG Beings a few weeks ago, I suggest PMing her, and she can tell you about her experience.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I just finished listening to Kerry interviewing John Kettler a week ago. They both were debunking Drake and what he says is going on. They both say "our sources say different". Bill mentions his sources, DW mentions his, Ben Fulford his, Dreamsingital hers, Drake mentions his. I am feeling a wee bit left out here. If someone would like to whisper in my ear, maybe I can have my secret source as well. Any takers?

Stan
Stan,

I think you and others(?) might have things a little confused, John Kettler and his ET/EDs support Drake and the Freedom Movement. Just his 'ground' contacts have been kept out of the loop for one reason or another.

@ Bryn,

Maia here on the forums had an experience with one of the EGG Beings a few weeks ago, I suggest PMing her, and she can tell you about her experience.

Excellent, thank you.

I have just been looking at the Egg Nebula now, beautful it is.

[xbusymom]

Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??

(ummm... i think it was the recording of the Address to the Military- will post when I find it)

[KiwiElf]

It was also in the last recordings/interview although not quite worded like this: ie "something will be "done" to us" (by the ET's) after the mass arrests" ie an upgrade ?

[Avocadess]

xbusymom: I didn't interpret what Drake said quite that way. I took what he said to mean that they are going to bring us up to their level of perception and insight.

[aranuk]

Are you trying to be funny pal?

Stan

Hi

Please explain?

Can you explain what you meant please?


Stan

[Ron Mauer Sr]

xbusymom: I didn't interpret what Drake said quite that way. I took what he said to mean that they are going to bring us up to their level of perception and insight.

Now that is a grand solution to the problems here. The best solution that I have heard. I hope it is true.

[aranuk]

Stan:

I actually heard something more recently about John Kettler SUPPORTING Drake and his message. His website seems to support this. I take it he had a change of heart (and new information from his sources):

http://johnkettler.com/etseds-spooks-drake-and-the-plan/

Hi Ava babe, I read the link on Kettlers site you gave me. This is a turnaround on his behalf. I don't remember when Kerry interviewed him that last time, but I thought it was a week ago. Someone posted it here today and I just clicked on it and listened. It was on her usual audio broadcast.

Stan

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I just finished listening to Kerry interviewing John Kettler a week ago. They both were debunking Drake and what he says is going on. They both say "our sources say different". Bill mentions his sources, DW mentions his, Ben Fulford his, Dreamsingital hers, Drake mentions his. I am feeling a wee bit left out here. If someone would like to whisper in my ear, maybe I can have my secret source as well. Any takers?

Stan
Stan,

I think you and others(?) might have things a little confused, John Kettler and his ET/EDs support Drake and the Freedom Movement. Just his 'ground' contacts have been kept out of the loop for one reason or another.

@ Bryn,

Maia here on the forums had an experience with one of the EGG Beings a few weeks ago, I suggest PMing her, and she can tell you about her experience.

Thanks Dreams babe, I loveya still!


Stan

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To prove I'm not being sexist. Modwiz babe I love you too!


Stan

[Space_Ace]

It was also in the last recordings/interview although not quite worded like this: ie "something will be "done" to us" (by the ET's) after the mass arrests" ie an upgrade ?

If we see mass arrests this year(I will keep being hopeful!) and if the ETs decide to disclose themselves(we should extend our invitations) and if we ask nicely, they may teach us how to ascend. Every soul who is awake and has a desire to ascend will be given the chance to learn how to ascend. Exciting times ahead, there's so much we don't yet know!

[DreamsInDigital]

Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??

(ummm... i think it was the recording of the Address to the Military- will post when I find it)
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.

[aranuk]

WE WILL ASCEND. One way or another Space-Ace I can assure you.

Stan

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Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??

(ummm... i think it was the recording of the Address to the Military- will post when I find it)
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.

Drakes words were we will be like them. NOT become them.


Stan

[KiwiElf]

I think we need to keep in mind that none of these "other people/sources" - including Bill & Kerry, (no disrespect intended) so far - are part of Drake's "in-the-know" inside loop.

[DreamsInDigital]

xbusymom: I didn't interpret what Drake said quite that way. I took what he said to mean that they are going to bring us up to their level of perception and insight.
Well not quite their level? But, anyway technologically etc where we should/would have been had we not been held back and had the tech etc and development (spiritually etc) suppressed from us. And, to be welcomed as an emerging interstellar race. Will include mentoring from multiple races etc. Also, Alex Collier covers this in his lecture from the 2009 Awake and Aware conference. For those interested in what Drake 'et al'. Are talking about instead of jumping to preemptive conclusions please see the transcript here: The Andromedans and Mentoring Humanity ~ Alex Collier 2009 Awake and Aware Conference. (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_34.htm) Video version and another transcript of lecture are available here: Mentoring By an ET Race. - Alex Collier at the 2009 Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference. (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_25.htm) Science and Physics based proof of what's coming/going on is available by checking out the research and studies etc done by Susan Joy Rennison. She has her own site, and most of her work is published on the site and elsewhere.

[aranuk]

Stan:

I actually heard something more recently about John Kettler SUPPORTING Drake and his message. His website seems to support this. I take it he had a change of heart (and new information from his sources):

http://johnkettler.com/etseds-spooks-drake-and-the-plan/

Yes I read it Avocadess. It would appear he has changed his mind.

Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

WE WILL ASCEND. One way or another Space-Ace I can assure you.

Stan

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Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??

(ummm... i think it was the recording of the Address to the Military- will post when I find it)
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.

Drakes words were we will be like them. NOT become them.


Stan
Yeah, I think that's basically what I said, just used more words. :)

[aranuk]

Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.Drakes words were we will be like them. NOT become them.
Yeah, I think that's basically what I said, just used more words. :)

Dreams in a way John Kettler has come round to your way of thinking has he not? You believe Drake and Kettler that was your position for a few months now. I heard Kettler in the interview with Kerry Audasity last week saying his insider didn't think it was real. Now Kettler is being nudged by his ET and ED friends is saying what you have always said. Good for you Dreams.

Stan

[foreverfan]

John Kettler is a tool. I don't find him creditable.

I mean... come on... does he even look creditable? Just sayin. :bs:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NuUH4tWWWoQ/T154-RxPiUI/AAAAAAAAFSc/1njZLs147_8/s400/john_kettler_with_book3.jpg

[Avocadess]

Wow. I just noticed that this thread has had over 36,500 views to date. This is good. People ARE taking note.

I think it is also important to realize or remember that for many people a lot of this information is new to them or even if they heard it before they are newly waking up -- or have not yet worked through the disempowered and fearful state the dark cabal has worked so very hard and long to put the masses of people into in order to keep us obedient and weak. It is NORMAL for these people to be silent -- at least for a while and as they adjust to learning what is going on -- but they ARE listening.

I figure that is one of the reasons I am here and so vocal -- is a somewhat unique "gift" I have had since a child (and fostered by my father), which is that I have rarely worried about "what other people think." There is such a great freedom in NOT worrying about that. And like one wise person once said to someone hesitant to share his/her own truth or feelings, "What do you think they think of you NOW? Maybe they will even think the better of you once you have shared it." (paraphrasing there)

And just a nudge in case someone has not discovered this yet -- the new update of May 1, 2012 on David Wilcock's blog: www.divinecosmos.com -- and for people who can only handle a LITTLE bit of information at a time I have a sound-byte-length snippet from Wilcock's blog on my website here: http://avocadess.com/door2 (Notably, Wilcock is encouraging involvement in the current OCCUPY events. And I copied a quick list of most of the debtors listed in the current ARREST WARRANTS, including Kissinger and David Rockefeller.)

[aranuk]

John Kettler is a tool. I don't find him creditable.

I mean... come on... does he even look creditable? Just sayin. :bs:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NuUH4tWWWoQ/T154-RxPiUI/AAAAAAAAFSc/1njZLs147_8/s400/john_kettler_with_book3.jpg

Forever babe I don't either. I put more trust in Dreamsindigital, although she swears by him. I'm kind of in the middle of these two. Know what I mean?


Stan

[Space_Ace]

Wow. I just noticed that this thread has had something like over 37,000 views.... This is good. People ARE taking note.

I think it is also important to realize or remember that for many people a lot of this information is new to them or even if they heard it before they are newly waking up -- or have not yet worked through the disempowered and fearful state the dark cabal has worked so very hard and long to put the masses of people into in order to keep us obedient and weak. It is NORMAL for these people to be silent -- but they ARE listening.

Love!

Alot of that info is new even to already awake people like me. I am still learning more and more. I have been unable to wake my parents, but told them that if mass arrests occur, they will learn on the mainstream news what I already know. I will then tell them everything I have learned and that they will see for themselves. :)

[thunder24]

Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.Drakes words were we will be like them. NOT become them.
Yeah, I think that's basically what I said, just used more words. :)

Dreams in a way John Kettler has come round to your way of thinking has he not? You believe Drake and Kettler that was your position for a few months now. I heard Kettler in the interview with Kerry Audasity last week saying his insider didn't think it was real. Now Kettler is being nudged by his ET and ED friends is saying what you have always said. Good for you Dreams.

Stan

Surely that is not the end of ur line of questioning on such a coincidence? Keep digging

peace

[gripreaper]

Oh my gosh, private process commercial lien notices sent to the Hague, no response from the elite, mentoring by Winston Shrout, mixing private process with the Keenan public lawsuit, and Keenan and Scott are not soverign, and now there is this notion that the arrests can begin?

Oh my. You folks really need to do your own due diligence and not believe in saviors.

[KiwiElf]

Oh my gosh, private process commercial lien notices sent to the Hague, no response from the elite, mentoring by Winston Shrout, mixing private process with the Keenan public lawsuit, and Keenan and Scott are not soverign, and now there is this notion that the arrests can begin?

Oh my. You folks really need to do your own due diligence and not believe in saviors.

Likewise gripreaper, likewise ;)

[aranuk]

If this Drake big clean up escalates to Britain, that would put me in the position of knowing who to trust. I am Scottish and the Scottish people never voted to sign up with the English and form the Britain that the English aristocrats wanted. We the Scottish people were betrayed by "our" aristocrats who betrayed our king and sided with the English monarchy. I am not an Anglophile. I love all the ordinary people in England and Wales. It has always been the rulers in power that tried to subdue the Scottish people into subversion. We now have our devolved Parliament, but unfortunately they waited until the Scottish National Party had a leader that would secretly be beholden to their demands before we were given our own parliament.
What has Alec Salmond done to give Holly Greig a fair hearing? He has at every level protected the guilty and tried to keep this case from going anywhere as it would expose the satanic groups to prosecution. Mod Murray has a thread here at Avalon. I fear that there isn't even a 1% of the military in Uk who are on the side of te people. The officer class is recruited from the upper middle class and the recruits from the working class are trained solely to obey orders. I have a cousin who was a sargeant in the army and I will say that if his major told him to shoot his mother he would do that without flinching. He would never let his batallion down because that is his family.

What hope is there in Britain we don't even have guns. I ask you?


Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

Dreams in a way John Kettler has come round to your way of thinking has he not? You believe Drake and Kettler that was your position for a few months now. I heard Kettler in the interview with Kerry Audasity last week saying his insider didn't think it was real. Now Kettler is being nudged by his ET and ED friends is saying what you have always said. Good for you Dreams.

Stan
Thank you, it's always nice to have a positive influence on people. I know of the inside he talks to, and yeah, the guy apparently just has not been one that has been kept 'in the loop' on this. But, he's starting to delve into it , at least from the perspective of what can be provided by the interviews etc, and is looking into it further. JK is definitely getting nudged by his ET and ED friends, I think though him being cautious like most about this whole freedom movement is a good thing, but he does trust his ET/EDs and it's something else when they and his ground sources come into conflict. Which happens sometimes. I'll PM you though, don't need to derail this thread unintentionally into something about this. Will explain why I trust JK and Drake, privately. Even if Drake was removed from the equation of the freedom movement in whole, I'd still be behind it all the way, full tilt, I was behind it long before he even came on the scene.

[aranuk]

Surely that is not the end of ur line of questioning on such a coincidence? Keep digging

peace

I have noticed you before Thunder, don't please don't try and mess with me babe.

Stan

[StarDust]

Did anyone else hear Drake mention that we will be turned into ET's at the end of the year??

(ummm... i think it was the recording of the Address to the Military- will post when I find it)
Ah, again. Something that was misinterpreted. What he said/meant was that we would all basically as a collective race/planet be upgraded technologically etc to where we should be and would have been had we not been held back by the Cabal/Reptoids/Grays et al.

Yes, there will be massive releases of suppressed highly advanced technologies. Think Star Trek: Transporters, Food Replicators, Free Energy Technolgy, Advanced Transportation (Jetsons), Healing devices (YES, actual CURES), etc. Conversely, not only will the powers that were be in jail, the industries that have also enslaved us (Big Oil, Pharma, Agra Business) will be greatly reduced in size or put out of business in the process. Finally, we'll all be able to rejoice when we get to tell Exxon-Mobile, Pfizer & Monsanto to take a giant leap into the abyss!

We're about to be freed in more ways than most can imagine!

What Drake has yet to reveal is that the earth is essentially ascending as a 4th density being (density, not dimension, they are vastly different things). 4th Density will reintroduce humanity to its rightful gifts as a devine being: telekinesis, clairvoyance, levitation, teleportation, etc. It's what made the Annunaki seem like celestial bad a$$es to the Egyptians. This will/is being handled by a massive upgrade to everyone's DNA; this in part explains one purpose for chemtrails-to block intelligent light/frequencies from activating the upgrade.

The caterpillar that is/was 3rd density earth is about to become the 4th density butterfly. LITERALLY!!!

If you wish to learn more about the 4th density process, I suggest starting here: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Densities&su=Fourth&sc=1#Fourth

I prefer utilizing the teaching/learning from The RA Material with regard to densities as the densities are split into 8 advancements on the path to spiritual unity. Conversely, there are an infinite number of "dimensions" which is primary based on physicality.

[Avocadess]

Stan: I can understand your sense of ill ease from your explanations as to why you are concerned about Scotland. Bear in mind that Drake has said many times that this is GLOBAL. I've no doubt that MOST of the good people of Scotland are indeed good people. The rat cats shall be ousted, one way or another...!

The U.S. is "key" in all of this, as I understand it, because of a certain power base the powers that were have had here as well as the tradition (in spirit if not in law) of the PEOPLE ruling government and NOT the other way 'round. Methinks it will get better and better -- and probably faster than any of us expect!

[gripreaper]

Likewise gripreaper, likewise ;)

Apparently you did not read my posts in the MAJOR EVENT, Liens filed against all 12 Federal Reserve banks. You can start here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43737-MAJOR-EVENT-Liens-Filed-Against-All-12-Federal-Reserve-Banks&p=467627#post467627

[aranuk]

Surely that is not the end of ur line of questioning on such a coincidence? Keep digging

peace

What makes you think that is the end of my questioning? I never said it was a coincidence. Surely you don't think that is the end of the road for me , do you?

Stan

[Avocadess]

This seems to be on-topic (although it is Benjamin Fulford's new blog rather than from Drake). Although Drake and Fulford do not have any kind of direct communication with one another to my knowledge, they are both clearly talking about the same things from different continents of the world (and different high-level sources). As David Wilcock mentioned in his blog today, Fulford has been predicting all of this publicly probably longer than anyone. He has made his mistakes (but show me a human who never errs and I'll show you someone who is not human):

Chaos on multiple fronts as controlled implosion of financial cabal continues
Benjamin Fulford - May 1st

http://benjaminfulford.net/

Quote The prevailing theme these days seems to be chaos in the West but what we are really witnessing is the controlled implosion of the criminal cabal that took over the Western financial system and nearly destroyed Western civilization. Among the events associated with this collapse were: a fake missile launch in North Korea, the ongoing cover-up of a botched assassination attempt against Obama, multiple liens being placed on cabal-controlled central banks, a trilateral commission meeting in Tokyo, unprecedented military maneuvers and more.

We are entering a very dangerous period as the cornered cabalists are certainly planning a massive new terrorist attack (possible tagets [targets]: Tokyo, Rome, London) in an attempt to stay in power. Military, police and other action against cabal power centers is also picking up pace.

One sure sign of change for those still clinging to the old power paradigms is the joint military maneuvers linking the Chinese, Russian and US armed forces. On the one side rogue pentagon forces working for the cabalists trying to steal Asian gold stashes were confronted by joint Chinese and Russian forces. On a different front, a joint US and Russian force is preparing to storm the Nazi cabal base under Denver Airport. These military maneuvers make it clear, if nothing else, that it is now better to think of geopolitics in terms of transnational factions than it is to think in terms of nation states.


The split between the Obama faction and Sabbatean gangster faction is one such example. The murder attempt against Obama in Columbia by members of his own secret service early in April is a good example.

The corporate propaganda press is only reporting this as a “prostitution scandal.” However, both MI6 and CIA sources say the murder attempt against Obama was a hit ordered by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and top North American Mossad agent Rahm Emanuel.

Obama is not publicly naming them because if he did so, stories about the murder of his homosexual lovers in Chicago and other Obama secrets would start appearing in Sabbatean gangster propaganda outlets like the Jew York Times.

The Sabbateans, for their part, are putting out stories on internet chat boards claiming the whole assassination attempt was planned by amateur rogue agents.

In any case, Netanyahu and his messianic faction is now finally being renounced by mainstream Jews and Israelis. The most public sign of this was former Israeli Internal Security Chief Yuval Diskin denouncing Netanyahu and his colleagues as incompetents with a messianic complex. Unlike other such comments, this was widely quoted in the corporate propaganda media. It seems the real Jews are finally taking action against the fanatical messianic gangsters who have been terrorizing them.

US protest movements like Occupy Wall Street are also gearing up for what is expected to be a summer of discontent. The organizers have been waiting for warm weather and that weather has arrived.

Meanwhile, although there is still talk of mass arrests taking place to clean out the corruption and gangsterism that has taken over the Washington D.C. political process, it still has not happened. A growing number of people both within and without the military and agencies are growing impatient with the delay. However, the word from the pentagon is that it will not move until all the i’s are dotted and t’s crossed in the new financial system.

In Europe, meanwhile, signs of collapse are visible for all to see. The crisis in Spain, imminent regime change in Holland and France, arrests all over Europe and the implosion of the big banks are there for all to see either in the corporate media or on the internet.

In relation to this, the White Dragon Society was asked to relay the following message: A US agency “cleaner,” by the name of “Leftie,” has been sent to Italy to “remove scum.” Presumably this refers to the hygienic risk posed by clumps of bacteria to be found in Italian public facilities.

In Asia, meanwhile, a lot continues under the surface. The cabal sub-committee known as the Trilateral Commission met last week in Tokyo. The public discussions were fairly low-key but there was a lot of talk about the value of underwater resources in the South China Sea. This was accompanied by pentagon and allied military maneuvers around China and provocative statements by various cabal assets about tiny territorial disputes with China.

This saber rattling was accompanied by a farcical show in North Korea. Hundreds of cabal luminaries and other international guests were invited to North Korea for the 100-year anniversary of Kim Il Sung. As one of the highlights of the festivities, the guests were all taken to see the “provocative rocket” North Korea was about to launch. However, at the time of the so-called launch, no foreign guests were present and the entire launch area was covered in fog. According to Japanese military intelligence no foreign government agency was able to get any images whatsoever of the “failed launch.” The best guess is that the entire thing was a giant publicity stunt.

Presumably the upcoming “nuclear test,” is also some sort of negotiation and publicity ploy by cabal forces desperate to stir up trouble in the Far East. They will get nowhere.

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda is also in Washington this week where he is expected to get the cold shoulder. He will be asking for access to the vast sums of money located inside Bank of Japan computers but Obama and other Washington lackeys are not in a position to hand it over. If they could, you can be sure they would use it themselves.

Instead, a lien has been placed on the Bank of Japan claiming this institution has been engaged in illegal and fraudulent money creation since 1968. Depending on its response to the lien the BOJ may be impounded by police acting on orders from Interpol.

The best guess for fundamental regime change in Japan and the West is that the month of May will be characterized mainly by the continuing collapse of the old world order. There is plenty of talk about big events in June linked to the liberation of the West and Japan.

The White Dragon Society, for its part, has begun a systematic campaign on multiple levels to overthrow the cabal. There will not be much to see at first but just wait.

****

As we say in Austin, "Onward through the fog...!"

Note: As someone pointed out in another thread "Jew York Times" sounds very anti-Semetic, but since Fulford himself is Jewish he no doubt feels free to use such terms (and is referring to Zionist cabal forces and not Jews as a whole).

[KiwiElf]

Likewise gripreaper, likewise ;)

Apparently you did not read my posts in the MAJOR EVENT, Liens filed against all 12 Federal Reserve banks. You can start here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43737-MAJOR-EVENT-Liens-Filed-Against-All-12-Federal-Reserve-Banks&p=467627#post467627

Apparently? LOL. Be careful what you assume ;) I did read it actually and it was "interesting" - thank you! :) what of it? (A rhetorical question which requires no further response on this thread).

[aranuk]

Stan: I can understand your sense of ill ease from your explanations as to why you are concerned about Scotland. Bear in mind that Drake has said many times that this is GLOBAL. I've no doubt that MOST of the good people of Scotland are indeed good people. The rat cats shall be ousted, one way or another...!

The U.S. is "key" in all of this, as I understand it, because of a certain power base the powers that were have had here as well as the tradition (in spirit if not in law) of the PEOPLE ruling government and NOT the other way 'round. Methinks it will get better and better -- and probably faster than any of us expect!

As you say Avocadess the US is key in all of this. I agree. if you fail we all fail. You guys are the leaders in all this. I hope you are right and succeed. If any kind of revolution were possible in Britain it would start in Scotland. A few elections ago Scotland was Tory free. Not a single Tory MP in Scotland. Tories have always been the party of the elites. Traditionally Labour Party was for the working class until the new labour party was formed and got rid of the true socialists and it then became a two party system when it didn't matter who won it was a elitist puppet party in government. The media swayed it their way. Same as US.

Stan

[thunder24]

What makes you think that is the end of my questioning? I never said it was a coincidence. Surely you don't think that is the end of the road for me , do you?

Stan.

I find it ironic that D.I.D. was saying this and u noticed how minds are now inline with D.I.D.'s thoughts. That coincidence makes me go hhhhmmmm doesn't it you? I said it was a coincedence, u didn't. End of road, the road is a circle, so my answer to the last one is no.

peace

[Mozart]

Video version and another transcript of lecture are available here: Mentoring By an ET Race. - Alex Collier at the 2009 Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference. (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_25.htm)




Ah, I remember doing that transcript. That "Ed Note" up at the top was my note. The biblio site modified the transcript a bit, but that's ok.


I really liked Collier and especially the information in it. It does give us an idea of how the more advanced societies live, and most of all, it gives us an idea of what kind of benevolent, compassionate society that we can develop into if we are given a chance.


The whole idea of the mass arrests and all is this: give peace a chance.


~Mozart

[DreamsInDigital]

Beautiful job as always Mozart , on the transcript. :). I like the concepts and such he presents in that lecture, the mentoring and that the ET/EDs are NOT going to do everything for us, and that we need to becomes self-empowered, with Self-Respect, Self-Responsibility and Self-Determination etc. The whole concept of mentoring is great, because it's how we can learn things and not end up being baby sat by them in the long run. Which is a very positive thing. I keep encouraging others as much as possible to go be mentors and leaders, get out there and make a difference in someone's life.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Are you trying to be funny pal?

Stan

Hi

Please explain?

Can you explain what you meant please?


Stan

Hi

With what?

Please highlight what you would like to know from my below quoted comment.



Hi.

It was an interesting interview by Kerry. It would seem that the "Truth" movement as a whole are not being taken in by what drake his saying. This could explain why others aren't even talking about it?

Who are the egg people I want to know?

Diolch..

[Avocadess]

For people "dying of impatience":

Apparently another concern is that people may freak about the fact that ETs, though friendly, have helped us put the control of the world back into the hands of the People. I certainly hope people will GET a GRIP. So many fears people have about extraterrestrial intelligence -- but look what has been happening on our OWN planet -- millions starving, ill and dying by DESIGN....and I MUCH appreciate the help of ETs. A lot of disinformation has been put out by the dark cabal to make us fear them no matter if they are good or bad. That is ridiculous. And ridiculous to think that Earth is the only place in this vast Universe with intelligent life. Most of the world TALKS about it. In the U.S people still refuse to take it seriously (at least in public -- for fear of being laughed at). WHO CARES if people laugh at you? If you believe intelligent life exists, please do talk about it. Especially if you live in the U.S., where people are so very REPRESSED on this issue like a new 21st century version of Puritanism.

[aranuk]

I find it ironic that D.I.D. was saying this and u noticed how minds are now inline with D.I.D.'s thoughts. That coincidence makes me go hhhhmmmm doesn't it you? I said it was a coincedence, u didn't. End of road, the road is a circle, so my answer to the last one is no.

peace

While I was listening to Kerry interviewing John Kettler, it became clear that they both were debunking Drake's claims. My thought at that time was '' I wonder where DreamsinDigital stands here? After all most people here know that DiD was a friend of John Kettler and she will be in a compromised situation as she like me goes with Drake.' After posting I was reminded by Kimberley that John Kettler now agrees with Drake's position. I then thought that now DreamsinDigital was out of the glue. My post was meant to applaud DiD that's all. I meant that JK had now swung the other way towards what DiD thought.

I don't think coincidence has anything to do with the matter Thunder

Stan

[thunder24]

While I was listening to Kerry interviewing John Kettler, it became clear that they both were debunking Drake's claims. My thought at that time was '' I wonder where DreamsinDigital stands here? After all most people here know that DiD was a friend of John Kettler and she will be in a compromised situation as she like me goes with Drake.' After posting I was reminded by Kimberley that John Kettler now agrees with Drake's position. I then thought that now DreamsinDigital was out of the glue. My post was meant to applaud DiD that's all. I meant that JK had now swung the other way towards what DiD thought.

I don't think coincidence has anything to do with the matter Thunder

Stan

Your right, there are no coincedences in life.

[aranuk]

I never said that. Of course there are coincedences in life.

Stan

[thunder24]

I never said that. Of course there are coincedences in life.

Stan

ok, u never said that. I read to much into ur answer. I will say there are no coincednces only synchronicities. It does not surprise me that Kettler is in line with D.I.D's views, actually I "knew" he would see things the same.

If someone on this forum is feeding a "whistleblower" or interviewee with information, and in the end, it seems the interviewee agrees with the person on the forum, that is not a coincedence.

[turiya]

Winston Shrout/Wilcock Interview

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43958-Drake-and-Teri-a-contrary-view.&p=480476#post480476


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rKKexGdPjI&feature=player_embedded

[aranuk]

I never said that. Of course there are coincedences in life.

Stan

ok, u never said that. I read to much into ur answer. I will say there are no coincednces only synchronicities. It does not surprise me that Kettler is in line with D.I.D's views, actually I "knew" he would see things the same.

If someone on this forum is feeding a "whistleblower" or interviewee with information, and in the end, it seems the interviewee agrees with the person on the forum, that is not a coincedence.

You are right bud. I agree.

Stan

[Unified Serenity]

I think the reason we have some serious questions is that it's all been said before by other people with the same questions coming up. Red flags go up, promises are made, dates given, military backing to restore America, but what happened. Many people believed then only to find it was not what it was cracked up to be. What makes Drake's comments different? What proofs do we have of his story about the military and arresting those responsible for defrauding American's and the world. I don't think we really KNOW what is going on, we only know what we are being told. This issue was talked about on Avalon back in 2010 which you can read here (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19809).
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19809

vtLPWayUl1g



House of cards falling apart

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Recently the Guardians of the Republic served all 50 governors of the United States with notice that they must declare an oath to the 1787 constitution of of the United States or be removed from office within 3 days. I was interested in finding out exactly how they planned to do this, from a legal/lawful standpoint. So I did a little research but need the rest of you to help educate me further.

The guardian elders of this organization are Sam Kennedy, Tim Turner, Regan Dwayne and Tom Shaults. My limited understanding at this point, is that their goal is to restore america back to 1787 government and are vowing to remove anyone from office who does not comply. They plan to do this with De Jure Grand Juries.

In my research, up to this point, a few red flags went off for me. I am not making a conclusive judgment about these men or those who support them. I need more information before I can be fully informed. And that is why I am asking you to help me better understand this situation.

This could potentially be a very serious matter for every citizen of the united states. So I thought it important to find out as much information as possible. If you do a search about this plan, the leaders, their websites, etc, there is a great deal of information out there. Some believe they are con men and scam artists. Others believe they are doing a great service to our country. At this point, I am not sure either way.

They claim to have the backing of the United States Top Military members and that they were in fact approached BY them and given this plan, and as long as they instituted the plan as given to them, the Military would support and back them. Yet I have not been able to find no evidence of this as of yet.

They say that they are doing this so that all Americans can live in freedom, yet they boldly state that they refuse to reach ALL of the masses of people in this country and can't waste their time on those who aren't awake. If this is FOR THE PEOPLE, shouldn't ALL the people be made aware of their intentions?

What do I want from all of this?

I just want the truth. I want someone to be upfront and honest with me as to their purpose, intent and plans. These so called guardian elders basically want us to just "trust" them, but american politics has proven to us over the years that we can generally NOT trust anyone. So how can I trust those who intend to take over and run my country, if they won't explain to me how they plan to do just that?

Links for your inspection:

Letter sent to Governors:
http://www.takeyourlibertyback.com/Declaration.pdf

Guardians of the Republic:
http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/front-page.html

Tim Turner Website:
http://www.americacanbefree.com/index.html

Republic Broadcasting:
http://republicbroadcasting.org/

[thunder24]

You are right bud. I agree.

Stan

good, glad we are on the same page now. I hope u see why i made my initial comment to u now.

[Avocadess]

FAQ page on FreedomReigns.US (taken from notes of several people and posted on their website): UPDATE: I may have gotten these notes from Wolf Spirit Radio rather than FreedomReigns.US (Wolf Spirit Radio being the radio Drake and Deatra currently broadcast from) -- so there MAY be a different set of notes coming out later on FreedomReigns.US. I have a LOT of trouble navigating both of those websites and could not find these same notes again when I tried 15 minutes after I copied them!!

Archive for the interviews can be found here: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

NOTES:
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Updates will be made to any information that has been previously provided by Drake.
New information will be added as it is released.


LAW DICTIONARY – ONLINE [Black’s Law Dictionary (2nd Ed)]
http://thelawdictionary.org/ This is an older version but is useful for legal terms.

UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE
The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC or the Code), first published in 1952, is one of a number of uniform acts that have been promulgated in conjunction with efforts to harmonize the law of sales and other commercial transactions in all 50 states within the United States of America.
• You will need to search for your state’s UCC version.
• Reservation of Rights is part of the UCC.
o Example: When you sign your driver’s license, you are agreeing to any and all laws dealing with transportation. If you do not know those laws you are subject to them unless you put Reservation of Rights above your signature.
o This is true of all contracts. Any portion of any contract that is not fully explained to the understanding of the individual signing said contract makes that contract null and void and unenforceable. It is to be treated in law as if it never existed.


AREA 51 & DULCE, NEW MEXICO NEW (04/29/2012)
• Parts of Area 51 are now empty and a couple of the others are empty. A lot of the stuff that was out there has been used in terms of moving them into tunnels, tunnel systems and underground bases. This was your top of the line technology reverse engineered from supposed ET craft that crashed. These things have been spread all over the country. The people who had the idea reverse engineering did so for two reasons:
1. Military superiority in terms of weaponry.
2. The advanced technologies would give them the capability of having all the electricity they wanted for as long as they wanted it kind of thing.

ARRESTS
• The timeframe for this is 30-45 days from 8 April 2012.
• The arrests, taking into custody, sweep, and housecleaning, whatever you want to call it, will not come much lower than governor level, if that.
• President and Congress – 13th amendment will apply. If you are an agent in any way, form or shape, holding allegiance or gratitude to a foreign power, not only can you not hold citizenship, you cannot hold any office. You are not allowed to be here.

UPDATED (04/29/2012)
• He won’t be definitive about the arrests. There are the beginnings of the things which he has discussed on prior radio shows that have already transpired.
• Europe is going crazy. The reason they are going crazy is 2 reasons: they do not have the funds to back the currency known as the euro and they also have an extraordinary, staggering and impossible to pay back debt.
• A NORTHCOM maneuver is scheduled between May 2- 9 in 6 different states. Seeing military convoys wouldn’t be out of place since it is a training exercise however it could be the good guys putting their troops in place.
• The legalistics involved should be complete as of this past week. If not, the first of next week.
• Majority of the executive orders, if any, that can be used on a legal basis simply because they have not been done correctly.
• People need to start learning how these things work so they can take this down to the local level and tell their mayor no, nature does not clean up the leaves in the forest so there is no need for me to clean up the leaves in my yard as such. You are not sending locals workers over to do that for me and then charging me for the privilege. This goes to property rights.
• When certain people are in a position to do so, they will take a sweep. They will take all the people from behind the people you have in office - the financiers, people that have been being the document runners and people like that are all of a sudden going to disappear. After that sweep is made, they make sure they have all the records they need to prosecute these people. Then the people will be given the notification to go into a green light status. That means everyone will be notified about 24 hours ahead of the time you get to see people put away in handcuffs.

BANKS
• Per Drake, if you have money in the bank everything will be zeroed out.
• Afterwards there will be a RV (re-evaluation) according to a combination of both personal and collateral accounts.
• The collateral accounts will try to attend to a combination of public works, making sure people have jobs, thing of this nature.
• The private accounts will be more attuned to making sure that the people who would bring out emergency food stuffs to people who don’t have any food have gas for their trucks and things of this nature
• The banks themselves, if they are not directly affiliated with the Federal Reserve or central banking system, will not be taken down.
• The re-evaluation is going to be a different type of value in terms of currency. We will be going from what we now know as a debt system to what will be known as equity system.
• You may be looking at 2-3 times the purchasing power you had with the Federal Reserve note. This means wages, costs, a lot of things are going to adjust.
• These things are predicated on two basis: direct valuation (means that things have a certain value) and to go along with this productivity in terms of what the individual people are capable of doing and making sure they have the opportunity to do so. These are to see the basic needs of individuals.
• The currency of a country should be backed by some value.
• For people that have money in the bank (prior to everything being zeroed), consider purchasing gold and silver coins. By having $200-$300 worth of silver coins (called junk silver because they are 85% or more silver) you have a vendible currency that is always recognized.
• From Drake’s understanding, it will not take very long to change from the debit system to the value system.
• We will continue using the current currency and it will be phased out over time. Drake has not been told yet what the new currency will be. There will be a dead period that can be addressed with gold and silver coin. Get at least enough to last you basically a week in terms of your expenses (groceries, fuel, etc.).

BRIDGES NEW (04/29/2012)
• The dark cabal has drilled holes in the cement of the bridges to put explosives in. The good guys are still working at removing the explosives. There are a lot of bridges.

CHEMTRAILS NEW (04/29/2012)
• If we can’t get official action sometimes the people have to take action. Drake has made an issue of this through his contact chains and other people that they need to address this. Some things have been done but not nearly enough. Hopefully at some point you will start seeing fighter jets escorting these people to the ground or shooting them down or something of this nature.
• Is there any benefit to a chemtrail that we are unaware of? That depends what is in it. There are chemicals, mixes of things that can remedy most of the problems that those things have created. It can also clean the atmosphere and us. They can be beneficial if used correctly with the correct ingredients yes.

CHICAGO (NATO Meeting) NEW (04/29/2012)
• Doubt an evacuation will happen. Evacuating Chicago would be an extraordinary undertaking. The logistics do not fit. The areas around people will be sanitized and anyone questionable will get to take a trip, either voluntarily or with assistance.
• Black choppers are an intimidation and scare tactic.
• Bad guys no longer have a place to hide nor can they get off planet.

CHINA NEW (04/29/2012)
• Should we be concerned about people from China building here? Why aren’t we using people from the United States? Each individual nation will be responsible for their people. You will find that there will be a lack of capable people (people correctly trained) to handle infrastructure repair.

COMMUNITIES
• Involves individuals, small towns, counties, things of this nature are going to become critical for two reasons:
1. Self survival, self preservation
2. The people will be seeing several different structural plans for a government in this country. It is going to be hinged on and primarily put together just a little differently but very similar to what we originally had. Drake’s understanding of the plan is two-fold:
 The federal government as everyone knows it now is going and the finances will be turned back to the treasury.
 The structural plans will be put on display at voting places for everyone to see with an explanation of what they are for/do. Individual nation-states will stand individually. There will be agreements between them per the Articles of Confederation.
 We will have a much more transparent government.

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS)
• Ammunition Purchases – Just because you say you are doing something does not necessarily mean it is happening. Would check to see if there is a contract along with payment that validates what you are saying.

DRAKE’S AFFLIATION
• He has had dealings with both the White Knights and White Dragons.
• He is not a member of these groups at this time.
• There have been several Drakes popping up all over the place.
• If someone wishes to contract Drake, they may do so through www.freedomreigns.us

DRAKE’S COFFEE (Medicinal)
• He uses regular coffee but adds a few things.
• Makes 12 cups with filtered water. Uses 4 level scoops of Folder’s Dark Blend coffee. Flatten out the coffee so it is not heaped up.
• Ginger – it takes care of the acid feeling in your stomach that can occur from drinking coffee. Put enough in to speckle it a light yellowish color.
• Whole Ground Cloves – these are a pain reliever. Put enough in until it is speckled brown.
• Hyssop (can buy at a health food store) – sprinkle enough to sort of cover the prior ingredients.
• Red Clover – is a blood cleaner. Add a healthy pinch (equivalent of 1-2 blossoms and some leaves).
• Then make the coffee. The coffee will have a naturally sweet taste.

FARMERS NEW (04/29/2012)
• Two things will happen as this thing starts working itself out:
1. Re-emergence of manufacturing in this county.
2. The other general intention or focus is going to be on farming (see Localization).

FEDERAL RESERVE NEW (04/29/2012)
• Will the $16 trillion of bailout money that went to the bankers’ pockets have to be paid back? Recently on Divine Cosmos, David Wilcock put out the report of all twelve central banks being leined. The deal with the leins is that the answer is yes. The central banks now have to pay back all of those funds that they obtained illegally. Basically the central banking system is getting ready to go bankrupt. Parts of it already have in Europe and other countries.

FINANCIAL SYSTEM
• There have been numerous resignations and arrests in Europe.
• In the U.S., banking officials decided to take extended foreign vacations instead of resigning. When this was discovered, some of the people have been stopped at the borders, their credentials checked, their passport was kept and they were told to go home.
• Since the current banking system can no longer take money from small foreign countries, they are limited to funds on hand. The funds on hand have been stolen, leveraged, borrowed and securitized away from what are called Collateral Global Accounts. This was without permission and illegal. These things are being addressed.
• The banks are responsible for paying this money back, not us.
• When the Fed goes here, so does the financial basis, backbone or support of most of the G20.
• All of the financial power, to include the reach anyone has in any capacity (corporate, government, whatever), is going to be reduced to having no value. The framework they operate in will be taken down (the basis for it which is money).

UPDATED (04/29/2012)
• Russia’s stock exchange is realigning some of what they are doing but the problem is a person by the name of George Soros. He couldn’t affect a direct takedown while he was in the country. Apparently there was an arrest warrant issued for him for financial terrorism. Russia shut down for self-protection.
• U.S. stock market is bogus in terms of its valuation. The actual valuation right now is around 6,000. Remember what happened to housing. The housing market today is basically at more of a true value then it has been in a lot of years. When a stock splits, they are diluting the value.
• Do not throw away your Federal Reserve notes. The re-evaluation will reinstate them on an equity basis so they will still have value.

FREE ENERGY
• Drake is in the process of making some of his own.
• The technologies that have been repressed are going to be a part of the disclosure. The disclosures are going to be tremendous. Anyone that has had or has cancer will be treated in such a manner that they will no longer have it.

FUKUSHIMA
• Was in the works for 5 years. There is no documentary evidence concerning that, that anyone can come up with at this point.
• Documentation on it does exist and is hoping to preserve that in order to prosecute the people involved with it.
• Japan is unsafe to live in and this has not been told to the people.
• The radiation has spread to Europe. The problem is not radiation itself but the type of radiation.
• This was an extortion attempt and used an explosive device.

HAARP
• Has been used for a combination of things. One is extraordinary weather (called weather wars). Other parts of it are earthquakes, tsunamis, extraordinary lacks in certain things (example: if you move the jet stream a certain way and a whole area goes dry).

HOUSING CRISIS
• Debt Elimination – information regarding this is located here: http://freedomreignsusa.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2012-03-27T22:35:00-05:00&max-results=1
• Foreclosed homes will be returned to the owner. People that have bought those homes will need to find a new one.
• The interest rate in terms of a mortgage is going to become a mute point. People may want to look what is occurring in Iceland.
1. Majority of what the central banking system was telling them was fraudulent. Iceland ruled that their debt was fraudulent and that the banks could pay their own debt.
2. Recently Iceland forgave all mortgages.
• You are your own creditor. Fact of the matter is that these things will be officially recognized and rectified. All federal taxes will disappear and as well as your mortgage.

UPDATED (04/29/2012)
• Strawman account is in our name and tied to our birth certificate. Specifically the strawman doesn’t exist and what it is is an equity issued according to your value. Generally it is around three billion dollars. This goes directly to the Fed in terms of valuation upon birth. You have to remember that because of the fictitiousness of the origins of these actions, as goes to the corporate government, that
1. A corporation has no more right than Walmart or someone else to collect taxes and
2. They do not have the capability to lawfully operate as an entity where it regards a free people.
• The other part of this is that you have people losing their homes because they don’t understand that they are actually issuing the credit to the mortgage holders against themselves. In other words, you are worth X amount of money. If you sign a paper, there’s no transfer of funds. They go on a computer screen and change some numbers and that’s it. There is no value that moves.
• As to the issue of the credit, the individual does not owe but the banks do. This is a part of the reverse they put it to cause us to think certain things. People have been lead to believe that when you apply for a loan you are actually getting an intrinsic value when you’re not.
• As far as fighting that sort of thing, there are several places you can go. Put “What Lies in Your Debt” into your search engine and you will come up with some answers. There are a whole lot of things in legalistics and legal terms that most average people are unaware of. Due to the bankruptcies that this country has had, we operate under what’s called the Unified Commercial Code (UCC). Everything is commerce.
• The strawman ideology: yes it does have some legal valuation, it does have some legal ramifications but using the UCC as an international law whereby all commerce is conducted within this field of a combination of understanding and enforcement then everyone has to pay certain portions of bills when they are doing payable. It also outlines contracts exactly their legal condition, the manner in which you can sign one so they cannot say you agreed to the contract so this, this and this applies when it is not written anywhere in the contract.
• You use UCC 1-308 called Reservation of Rights. That means there is no implied contract. If you want to start some stuff and you’re paying federal taxes, put Reservation of Rights above your name when you sign something. It would be an idea for those who decide to do so to have a good lawyer.
• For people looking at buying a home at this time: make sure the deal is structured correctly, make sure that the property they are looking at to buy is comperable to valuations done on properties similar to it within that area.
• Most the foreclosures have been ruled as fraudulent and the property is to either be returned or compensation made to the original owner. It may not be the best idea to invest in these things. The only entity that you are assisting when you do so is the bank itself.

ICELAND NEW (04/29/2012)
• Some of the information Drake has been given on Iceland is privileged and he has not been given authorization to discuss it.
• A certain amount of the mortgages have been forgiven according to where they were originated and the types of monies involved.


JUDGES NEW (04/29/2012)
• There are people in prison that shouldn’t be there because a judge had made a mistake. Drake suggests holding the judge personally responsible for incorrect application of the law. The record should be expunged (stricken from all records).

LOCALIZATION NEW (04/29/2012)
• On the website, www.freedomreign.us, you will find a thing called Localization. It provides a combination of both helping each other with simplistic things (if someone can’t do something, you help them with it or if they need something, you may provide it). The other part of it is protection.
• Drake is not recommending violence. What he is recommending is for everyone to get their groups together and get a phone tree going. When you see something funky, call the sheriff.
• Have somebody who has time and the capability to keep an eye out and make sure they have a cell phone and a radio. It would be a good idea to advise all of the militias to put a scout, a recon, a lookout, whatever you want to call it out there with a radio and a cell phone. The call does this: they call for reinforcements, the reinforcements call the sheriff and they call up the phone tree for civilians. The militia is deployed to whatever the problem area is and these people are confronted.

MOLESTERS NEW (04/29/2012)
• Bogus charges are difficult to clear. If you have any physical evidence, save it. Any kind of jar will do for liquids.
• A molester living too close to schools, as Drake understands it, is forbidden under the sexual predator laws.

NESARA NEW (04/29/2012)
• This is a bogus program from Rockefeller. It is part of the cabal which means it is not intrinsically going to be good for anyone. Be leery of those ideologies. Now it may be that certain portions of this would be equitable or would be correct in terms of application with the people.

OPERATION GREEN LIGHT (24-hour advance notice) NEW (04/29/2012)
• Not valid! When the Green Light occurs it will be found on www.freedomreigns.us.
• If something is posted, do not make it viral until after confirming it through Freedom Reigns.
• Individuals will not be personally contacted when there is an alert. It will be posted on Freedom Reigns and they have compiled a list of various media sources who have asked to be contacted.
• When the Green Light is given, they (media sources) will help to let everyone know. Wolf Spirit Radio has already said that if Deatra and Drake have something really important, they can get on at any time.

POLICE NEW (04/29/2012)
• Not all police are bad but there are some that are doing things like tasoring people to death or being inappropriate taking people into custody.
• Make formal complaints to the state level law enforcement. What this does is this involves the FBI and other people directly in whatever transpired. It also causes the action to be investigated.
• If anyone has witnesses, etc., get their statements that they saw the police doing something that was not right.
• Do not assault the police.
• If people are just standing around and they arbitrarily pick someone, that needs to be radio recorded, that needs to be witnessed. At that point then the policeman is guilty of a crime.
• You do not have to abide by what would be called a police inquiry in the matter. You need to go down and file an affidavit that states or stipulates truth in a cause. That cause will go along with whatever arrest record or incident report that the police make. When you have substantial evidence to the contrary, especially video or pictures, when there is no reason for the action taken then that policeman can be held responsible for what they do.

RADIATION NEW (04/29/2012)
• The radiation and radiation levels are real. The problem with the reporting of it is that you cannot read the type of radiation with a standard Geiger counter. This is a different type of radioactivity in terms of the manner in which it presents itself in its physical manifestation.
• The radiation is at extraordinary high levels and it has already blanketed the United States and it is headed toward Europe and beginning to affect England at this point.
• There are things that can be sprayed through chemtrail applications that attend to these things it removes, it absorbs the radiation. Once the radiation is absorbed, there are biologics - small critters that eat atomic isotopes to neutralize them in the process.

SHAPE SHIFTERS NEW (04/29/2012)
• Certain elite Special Forces have been trained to hunt these things. The movie “Priest” shows this ideology.
• At a certain distance when they don’t know we are there, you can start popping them off. That is part of what is being done presently.
• If you see one, go back into the house. You don’t need to hide but keep a powerful weapon on hand just in case they decide to come to visit.

SPAIN NEW (04/29/2012)
• Spain has announced that they are going to a cashless society. Drake suggests people watch this situation simply because what happens there is going to give an idea as to what the adjustments they are looking for, in terms of making things right, is going to be or the manner in which the bad guys hide it. You can add France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Ireland and eventually the U.K. to the list of the people that are going to have financial problems. The shift is in progress but does take some time to accomplish this.

SPIRITUALITY
• Good reference site that covers some of the information Drake discussed: http://humanityhealing.net/
• Drake assists with this site.

STATES (Financial) NEW (04/29/2012)
• If states decide to have their own monetary system, Drake suggests that the American dollar be printed on one side and the state’s currency on the other. Then you have a national currency that just happens to be from that state. The problem is that some states have more wealth then others and it’s prohibitive to have an exchange rate between states.

STATES (Paperwork) NEW (04/29/2012)
• The list of states with paperwork not yet done can be found here: http://frforum.freedomreigns.us/user/Discussions.aspx?id=338446


VATICAN
• No idea when the Pope will step down but we will know about it when it happens.
• Everyone has heard of the scandals/problems within the church and those problems run to that particular individual. There are other things nastier than that that will come out that people will be shocked at.

UPDATED (04/29/2012)
• Drake doesn’t see the pope as being the center of attraction. According to the church doctrine, it states that the pope is the holy man directly in contact with Jesus Christ. That Jesus Christ, stated in the book, is the intercessor between man and God. That doesn’t say anything about the pope.
• The pope is guilty of things that even go beyond pedophilia and other concerns that the church has.
• Drake suggests that the church should cleanse itself. This should be done by the membership. Not all church officials are dirty. The ones that are left after you clean house could be your new leadership and they should be watched closely. Anything funny reported, they should be changed for someone else.

[Avocadess]

A show with Drake that escaped me before -- from just one day after his 3-hour interview with David Wilcock. The sound in the first hour is LOUSY, but clears up just before Drake is on the show beginning at about 1 hour and 4 minutes into the show:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomizerradio/2012/03/29/jim-duensingfreedom-reigns

(I was not able to get this embedded show to play for me, but it allowed me to open it up in a Windows program and am listening to it now.)

[Avocadess]

Notes on March 29, 2012 show with Drake (which I never heard before today):

Drake talks about the movie IRON MOUNTAIN talking about the intended genocide of the people. Drake said this is an old plan that won't work anymore. He said that a lot of what "they" are doing are "scare tactics only."

The problem with the recent "executive orders" is that there are not a lot of boots on the ground to enforce it. He talked about this in reference to the NDAA as well.

Drake spoke of a lot of people in Europe running off with money and hiding in other countries. "We have basically got them where we want them....Don't be so fearful that you do something stupid....There are no nation states.....Media sites using that name [nation states] "ain't us." FreedomReigns.US is the only website.

"You have got a bunch of basic fear tactics because that is all that is left."

"This effort is legendary....and was foretold by the Hopi Indians....and also the Mayans." He is saying this is it. Drake says he (Drake) has a big mouth and likes to talk on the radio.

Drake warns there will be a lot of "counter" videos, etc. on the Internet to frighten people because "these people no longer have the capabilities they used to have." It is harder for them to "reach out and touch someone and cause problems."

Drake said Deatra deserves some credit for what she has done. Another person said Deatra has put in a lot of money of her own that she could not afford.

Drake didn't talk for a really long time, just for about 15 minutes (unless he comes back on later in the show)...

***

Oh, and on Wolf Spirit Radio's Home Page it says that Deatra is in need of $2,500.00 (basically due to no fault of her own) and they are asking for donations -- "ATTENTION ATTENTION PLEASE, Deatra has an immediate financial problem caused by some one else and needs to raise $2,500.00 immediately, there is a donate button at http://www.freedomreigns.us all you drake fans please make this go viral and donate as much as possible." (http://wolfspiritradio.com/main/)

RuSA (and Tim Turner) Exposed -- the documents: http://www.freedomreigns.us/Rusa_Exposed.html

Bios of Drake, Deatra, Terri Hinkle and a few others on the FreedomReigns.US team are here: http://www.freedomreigns.us/Our_Team.html

[Avocadess]

From the end of Drake's bio on FreedomReigns.US:

"The extent of the information offered on the recording is, at this time, the limit I use to protect the many who are involved in our efforts. If anyone who reads this believes that freedom can still be available, then I urge all those to play the recording to others of a like mind.

"A qualified person does not have to be a rocket scientist. Try finding someone who is so honest it hurts to be around them. A person who knows the meaning of right and wrong according to their conscience...and who listens to it. In order to start to turn things around, it will take as many people as possible to stand up in any way they can. Put together groups all over our country at the local level. Get everyone to know each other and look into using your group to put the right kind of people in office.

"Who am I to speak and by what authority do I do so?

"- It is each persons constitutional 'duty' to remove a repressive government...the present one qualifies.
- I feel a moral obligation to stop the theft so hungry children in our own country of plenty, can eat.
- It ain't doing this for me.
- It is for my children and grandchildren, because their future hangs in the balance...I feel it is the least I can do for them. As one voice in the
wilderness...I CRY FREEDOM...!"

~Drake

[bekrah]

Avocadess, could you tell me what section of the freedomreigns.us site the FAQ is up on? I looked and I can't find it. (I even cleared my cookies, in case it was a computer glitch of some kind, still not seeing anything) Thanks!

[Avocadess]

bekrah -- I'll tell you what, it drove me nuts, that website. Once I found it then I couldn't find it again. Now I am wondering if I got it off Wolf Spirit Radio rather than FreedomReigns.US...! APOLOGIES if that is the case -- I have a very ADD sort of website-switching habit and found myself confusing those two websites with one another today -- although that IS the site they do their shows so probably still a kosher place to get such notes.

I'd look again right now but about to listen to KERRY CASSIDY interview the lawyers who are doing the legal work against the Federal Reserve!

Neil Keenan and Keith Scott (attorney's filing for recapture of the White Dragon Family fortune) will be on Project Camelot with Kerry Cassidy on Wed, May 2, 9pm CST (5 minutes from now).

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html (not -- see below!)

Oh geez. That may not be the fastest link to the show after all. Looking for it now! (You'd think websites would be more user-friendly by now. Guess I'm spoiled from the ease of YouTube!)

I think I found it -- and I hear Kerry's voice now:

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/listen_live.html

[gripreaper]

bekrah -- I'll tell you what, it drove me nuts, that website. Once I found it then I couldn't find it again. Now I am wondering if I got it off Wolf Spirit Radio rather than FreedomReigns.US...! APOLOGIES if that is the case -- I have a very ADD sort of website-switching habit and found myself confusing those two websites with one another today -- although that IS the site they do their shows so probably still a kosher place to get such notes.

I'd look again right now but about to listen to KERRY CASSIDY interview the lawyers who are doing the legal work against the Federal Reserve!

Neil Keenan and Keith Scott (attorney's filing for recapture of the White Dragon Family fortune) will be on Project Camelot with Kerry Cassidy on Wed, May 2, 9pm CST (5 minutes from now).

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html (not -- see below!)

Oh geez. That may not be the fastest link to the show after all. Looking for it now! (You'd think websites would be more user-friendly by now. Guess I'm spoiled from the ease of YouTube!)

I think I found it -- and I hear Kerry's voice now:

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/listen_live.html

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/listen_live.html

[bekrah]

bekrah -- I'll tell you what, it drove me nuts, that website. Once I found it then I couldn't find it again. Now I am wondering if I got it off Wolf Spirit Radio rather than FreedomReigns.US...! APOLOGIES if that is the case -- I have a very ADD sort of website-switching habit and found myself confusing those two websites with one another today -- although that IS the site they do their shows so probably still a kosher place to get such notes.

I'd look again right now but about to listen to KERRY CASSIDY interview the lawyers who are doing the legal work against the Federal Reserve!



Thanks for clearing that up. I'm listening to the Kerry Cassidy interview right now, thanks for mentioning it.

**Edit**
I checked out Wolfspirit Radio. The FAQ section is up there. Thanks again Avacodess for clearing that up for me.
http://wolfspiritradio.com/main/

[Avocadess]

I'm listening to Kerry Cassidy interviewing Keith Scott now too. (It's a commercial right now.) Maybe this will help me to understand exactly how this lawsuit against the Federal Reserve works. SO thrilled Kerry is doing this!!!

[Unified Serenity]

It's rather interesting, but they are showing crime shows right now that deal with domestic terrorism themes. I found it interesting that on the CSI show they focused on what was termed the "Paranoid personality disorder". They had lots of discussion about government take over and fear of loss of freedom, ruining the economy. Anger over environmental pollution and disease caused by big business. On the NCIS show they were focusing on attacking Navy ships.

I just see the theme of planting seeds about domestic terrorism and anger of the economy and abuse of power. Now today on the local talk show the ignorant talk show host talked all about the media not reporting that the group who failed to blow up the bridge with the C4 because they did not know how to detonate it were from the OWS movement and that was the main thing he focused on. I saw the strong possibility of laying yet more groundwork for people to have it in their minds that some American's are willing to blow up bridges and infrastructure to attack the government, so when the government blows it up the people will buy the lie that it was angry Americans and turn the anarchy switch or institute the round up of those who have a tendency to be paranoid about the government. Oh, it was pointed out that the informant was a government plant who met these individuals at OWS and it's not stated, but if it goes like other FBI stings the plant nurtured an idea of blowing up a bridge, supplied them with the C4 and set them up to be busted. The Government looks like it's protecting us in so many ways when in fact they are sewing the seeds of anarchy and putting the thoughts in the minds of all that we are ready to commit acts of violence and I have not heard that from any patriots or concerned citizens.

So, we have TV shows on overdrive planting the seeds and real life events backing it up.

[Avocadess]

Was that just my imagination or was that DRAKE who just called Kerry and said he'd like to do an interview with her?! She was polite but didn't want to talk to him at all at the moment. (Did I hear what I thought I heard?!)

[NancyV]

That was Drake. He asked one question then Kerry asked him if he wanted to ask another when he told her he was Drake. He said no but I think he was hinting that he'd be happy to join in the conversation. I don't think Kerry caught that and he gave them info on how to contact him, then left.

[Avocadess]

justoneman also just posted on another thread here on Project Avalon:

"That has to be Drake that called in and asked about the relationship in all this to government suppression. Wow - he just said he was Drake offering his number to Kerry Cassidy so she could call him directly - and stated he speaks with Keith Scott often...intersting"

Too FUN...! (I think Kerry did pick up on the hint but just wasn't feeling ready to take on Drake tonight, which is understandable since she has little enough time with Keith Scott tonight.)

[Chester]

The Kerry Cassidy interview with Keith Scott was quite interesting... quite real - Drake called in by the way - gave Kerry his number so she could later speak with him - perhaps interview Drake as well - Drake mentioned he has been in communication with Keith Scott.

I heard a number mentioned by Keith Scott as to how many people would be arrested - and the number is 300,000 Bankers and Politicians was specifically stated. Scott also mentioned when the question of settlement arose that "this was not about settlement, its about cutting off the funds of the cabal - the Bilderbergers / Committee of 300 who have plans to kill off 6 billion or so people because its too much trouble to feed them..." that is not an exact quote but its close - Scott and Keenan are the real deal folks - I just raised my confidence meter up a notch further

[aranuk]

justoneman also just posted on another thread here on Project Avalon:

"That has to be Drake that called in and asked about the relationship in all this to government suppression. Wow - he just said he was Drake offering his number to Kerry Cassidy so she could call him directly - and stated he speaks with Keith Scott often...intersting"

Too FUN...! (I think Kerry did pick up on the hint but just wasn't feeling ready to take on Drake tonight, which is understandable since she has little enough time with Keith Scott tonight.)

She said in the interview with John Kettler she was not going along with what Drake was doing.

Stan

[Chester]

Neil Keenan and Keith Scott (attorney's filing for recapture of the White Dragon Family fortune) will be on Project Camelot with Kerry Cassidy on Wed, May 2, 9pm CST (5 minutes from now).

I am pretty sure from what Scott said - Keenan is a business man who agreed to be the Trustee for the Dragon Family interests. Scott has expertise that Keenan lacked but also is not an attorney. They do have an attorney that Scott spoke very highly of (as they certainly would need one to write up the liens.

Scott sounded very credible and very sincere - my confidence meter rises further

[aranuk]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan

[modwiz]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan

I am all for your complete participation in every way.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan


Stan: I can understand your sense of ill ease from your explanations as to why you are concerned about Scotland. Bear in mind that Drake has said many times that this is GLOBAL. I've no doubt that MOST of the good people of Scotland are indeed good people. The rat cats shall be ousted, one way or another...!

The U.S. is "key" in all of this, as I understand it, because of a certain power base the powers that were have had here as well as the tradition (in spirit if not in law) of the PEOPLE ruling government and NOT the other way 'round. Methinks it will get better and better -- and probably faster than any of us expect!

There you go, Stan. Global problem, ergo Scottish opinions are just as important. The last time I visited Scotland I didn't get there by rocketship :P

The US arm/system might be a lynchpin, but the problem is everybody's :-)

[aranuk]

If I may say, hearing from Avocadess that Drake said that he knew Neil Keenan. That is a healthy sign in my way of thinking.
Thank you guys for the heads up.

Stan

[aranuk]

Is there a way I can hear the kerry interview with Neil Keenan and Keith Scott now or will I have to wait till tomorrow?

Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

We're all in this together, the freedom movement is global.

[StarDust]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan


This is humanities fight and you have every right to participate in your future as much as we do with ours. This is a group effort and we will be successful together; united we stand divided we fall. It is time for humanity to band together and claim that which is rightfully ours - as free people with the unconstrained ability to express ourselves as divine beings.

[modwiz]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan


This is humanities fight and you have every right to participate in your future as much as we do with ours. This is a group effort and we will be successful together; united we stand divided we fall. It is time for humanity to band together and claim that which is rightfully ours - as free people with the unconstrained ability to express ourselves as divine beings.

Yes, Stan, your spirit is an important one as this part of world history is being written. Besides..............(putting the words anew)..."The world trembles beneath the tread of the haggis eating man". (In this case the haggis eating man will symbolize a Scotsman, regardless of his actual consumption of said food.):thumb:

[tenacity1]

For what it's worth.. I have a dear friend who is a dowser and Reiki master. She dowsed Drake, Fulford, David Wilcock and some others.They come up as TRUTHFUL and honest. I for one felt that the first time I listened. However I am one who trusts my own inner voice. What I wish folks would do is at least visualize positive outcome. If for no other reason than the world has enough negativity. The problem in this country will be cynics, naysayers, arm chair quarterbacks and folks who think because Drake is southern he can't possibly have any credibility. I've always known that prejudice existed in many communities. Still, I am shocked to see it here. Peace ya'll

[Blueskywalking]

Here is the show archive for Kerry's interview as mentioned by Avocadess...


KERRY CASSIDY interviews the lawyers who are doing the legal work against the Federal Reserve.

Neil Keenan and Keith Scott (attorney's filing for recapture of the White Dragon Family fortune) on Project Camelot with Kerry Cassidy, Wed, May 2, 9pm CST


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-050212.mp3

[KiwiElf]

If Iceland can do it, SO CAN WE! Inspiring! :wizard: :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44649-Iceland-Kicks-Butt.....The-world-should-follow-its-example-&p=480961#post480961

[indigopete]

For what it's worth.. I have a dear friend who is a dowser and Reiki master. She dowsed Drake, Fulford, David Wilcock and some others.They come up as TRUTHFUL and honest.

This is getting beyond the pale.

[Bo Atkinson]

I believe i heard Drake mention ALEC as a big part of the malice in the USA.... (In one of the earlier broadcast mp3s). I just recall hearing it mid paragraph and not detailed...

If i recall Drake's quote wrong, if this presents wrong info according to 3 or more people here, i'll listen again through a dozen hours of the early mp3s to find the time mark and Drake quote, for the establishment of fact. I will remove this post if i'm proved wrong.

From another source, here is a clip on ALEC.
Full article is at:
http://prn.fm/2012/04/09/take-back-our-nation-boycott-alec-its-corporate-sponsors/
Clipped Quote:
........It is time that we understand the truth. Whoever controls the laws of the nation, individual states and municipalities controls citizens’ behavior. It is clear that from the $1.5 billion that will be spent in this year’s presidential campaigns that our country, our water and food, our energy and healthcare, no longer belongs to the American citizens.

Therefore, we are asking people to take a careful look at the list below of the corporations and non profit foundations sponsoring ALEC’s agenda and initiatives. Then act in a direction of that is principled, ethical and conscious in the choices you make and boycott all products produced and sold by these corporations. Finally make an effort to avoid voting for any federal and state legislator who allows has allowed his or her vote to support laws written by ALEC and that has been given to them as if it represented the will of the people.

Corporate, Legal, Non-Profit and Scholastic Sponsors of ALEC

Corporate Board

Altria Group, Daniel Smith
American Bail Coalition, William Carmichael, Jerry Watson
AT&T, William Leahy
Bayer Corp., Sandy Oliver
CenterPoint 360, W. Preston Baldwin – Chairman
Coca-Cola Company, Gene Rackley
Diageo, Kenneth Lane
Energy Future Holdings, Sano Blocker
ExxonMobil Corporation, Randall Smith
GlaxoSmithKline, John Del Giorno
Intuit, Inc., Bernie McKay
Johnson & Johnson, Don Bohn
Koch Companies Public Sector, Mike Morgan
Kraft Food, Inc., Derek Crawford
Peabody Energy, Kelly Mader
Pfizer Inc., Michael Hubert
PhRMA, Jeff Bond
Reed Elsevier, Inc., Teresa Jennings
Reynolds American, David Powers
Salt River Project, Russell Smoldon
State Farm Insurance Co., Roland Spies
United Parcel Service (UPS)[2], Richard McArdle
Wal-Mart Stores, Maggie Sans
For-Profit Corporations

Alkermes, Inc. (biotechnology company), Exhibitor at ALEC’s 2011 Annual Conference
Allergan, State corporate co-chair of Tennessee, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference ($50,000 in 2010) and member of Louisiana Host Committee
Altria Group, ALEC Private Enterprise Board member co-chair of the International Relations Task Force and “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference ($50,000 in 2010)
Amazon.com, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conferenc ($10,000 in 2010
Ameren sponsor during the 2011 ALEC Annual Meeting
American Electric Power, member of ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force
Arizona Public Service Company
AstraZeneca, State corporate co-chair of Delaware
AT&T, Private Enterprise Board member , State corporate co-chair of Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, Telecommunications and Information Technology Task Force member
Atmos Energy, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Bayer Corp., Private Enterprise Board member, State corporate co-chair of Massachusetts, Nevada, Pennsylvania, South Dakota and Texas and “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
BlueCross BlueShield of Louisiana, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
BP America, Inc., “President” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad (BNSF), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
CashAmerica “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Celgene Corporation, State corporate co-chair of Illinois
CenterPoint 360, ALEC Private Enterprise Board member
CenturyLink “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Chesapeake Energy, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Chevron Corporation, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Civic Initiatives, LLC ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force member
Cleco, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference and member of Louisiana Host Committee
CN (Canadian National Railroad), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Comcast, State corporate co-chair of Georgia, Minnesota, Missouri and Utah and recipient of ALEC’s 2011 State Chair of the Year Award
Connections Academy
ConocoPhillips, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Corrections Corporation of America
Cowart Group member of ALEC 2011 Annual Meeting Louisiana Host Committee
Cox Communications, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
CQ Roll Call Exhibitor at ALEC’s 2011 Annual Conference
CSX Corporation, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Dell, Inc., ALEC Education Task Force member
Diageo
Dow Chemical Company, ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member and “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Duke Energy Corp., State corporate co-chair of Indiana and South Carolina
Eli Lilly and Company, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Emerson Electric Co., ALEC Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force member
EnCana Corporation, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Energy Future Holdings
Energy Transfer “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Entergy, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Express Scripts (pharmaceutical retailer), sponsor of during the 2011 ALEC Annual Meeting
ExxonMobil Corporation, Private Enterprise Board member, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
EZCorp “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
FedEx, Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force Executive Committee member, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
General Motors Corporation, ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force member
Genesee & Wyoming Inc. (“short line and regional freight railroads in the United States, Canada, Australia, the Netherlands and Belgium”), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Georgia-Pacific (owned by Koch Industries), ALEC 2011 Annual Meeting Committee member
GlaxoSmithKline, Private Enterprise Board member and State corporate co-chair of New Mexico, New York and North Carolina
Guarantee Trust Life Insurance
Gulf States Toyota, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Harris Deville & Associates (public relations & lobbying), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
HP, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference[7] ($5,000 in 2010)[8]
Hunt Guillot & Associates (engineering firm with offices in LA, TX & PA),
International Paper, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Jacobs Entertainment (film marketing firm), “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
John Deere & Company, ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force member
Johnson & Johnson, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
K12 Inc.,
Kansas City Southern (an “international transportation holding company” that owns, among other things, the Panama Canal Railway Company), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Know Who (political contact information company
Koch Industries and Koch Industries Public Sector, Private Enterprise Board member, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Leadership Directories, Inc. (political contact information business
Leavitt Partners (Utah healthcare and food safety business firm)
LifeSaver Interlock Holdings, Inc. (manufacturer of ignition interlocks to be installed in the vehicles of DUI offenders
LouisDreyfus Commodities, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Mars Inc
McDonalds Corporation, ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force Committee
McKinsey & Company (Partner Jeffrey Lane, Private Enterprise Board Member 2008)
McMoRan Exploration Company (“exploration, development and production of oil and natural gas offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and onshore in the Gulf Coast area… focused on the ‘deep gas play,’ drilling to depths of 15,000 to 25,000 feet… and on the ‘ultra-deep gas play’ below 25,000 feet,”), “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Merck[16], “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Micron Technology (semiconductor company),
MV Verisol (motor vehicle insurance verification company
Norfolk Southern, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Northwestern Energy (“one of the largest providers of electricity and natural gas in the northwest quadrant of the United State)
Novartis, given ALEC’s 2011 Private Sector Member of the Year Award[23]
NV Energy, Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
OptumInsight (previously Ingenix, which was a wholly owned subsidiary of UnitedHealth Group and was sued for fraud by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo in 2008 and “agreed to put $350 million into a class-action restitution fund to pay physicians and policyholders for services provided by out-of-network providers. The Optum health service businesses have a new name but are still subsidiaries of UnitedHealth Group.),
Parquet Public Affairs (Orlando, Washington and New York PR firm)
Peabody Energy, Private Enterprise Board member, 2011 winner of ALEC’s Private Sector Member of the Year Award and “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Pfizer Inc., Private Enterprise Board member, State corporate co-chair of Colorado, Nebraska and Wisconsin[3] and “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Pinnacle West Capital
Progress Energy, State corporate co-chair of South Carolina
QEP Resources (“natural gas and oil exploration and production company”[46]), “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Reed Elsevier, Inc.
Reynolds American, Private Enterprise Board member, recipient of ALEC’s 2011 Private Sector Member of the Year Award, “President” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Robert Huff Designs (manufacturer of State, County, and City seals),
Salt River Project, Private Enterprise Board member
Sanofi/Sanofi-Aventis, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
SAP America, awarded ALEC’s 2011 Private Sector of the Year Award
Shell Oil Company, ALEC Civil Justice Task Force member, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Spectra Energy (natural gas infrastructure company), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
State Farm Insurance Co., Private Enterprise Board member, recipient of ALEC’s 2011 Private Sector Member of the Year Award and “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
State Net (private company reporting on state legislation, with clients including “five of the nation’s ten largest companies”), “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Takeda Pharmaceutical (global pharmaceutical company based in Japan, recipient of ALEC’s 2011 State Chair of the Year Award, “President” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Taser International Inc. (stun gun maker), ALEC Public Safety and Elections Task Force member
Thomson Reuters Accelus (created by the Thomson Corporation’s purchase of Reuters in 2008),
Time Warner, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
TogetherRX Access (an LLC with 18 pharmaceutical member corporations), “Vice Chairman” level sponsor at 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Gulf States Toyota, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Unilever (owner of Axe deodorant, Dove soap, Pond’s cold cream, Suave shampoo, Vaseline petroleum jelly, Signal toothpaste, Surf laundry soap, Slim Fast weight loss foods, Lipton tea, Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, Breyers ice cream, and Country Crock margarine),
Union Pacific Corporation, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
UnitedHealthcare, “Chairman” level sponsor of and exhibitor at 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
United Parcel Service (UPS), Private Enterprise Board member, Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force Executive Committee member
UPS Airlines,
Verizon Communications, Inc., Private Enterprise Board member
Visa, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference and sponsor of the Plenary Session of FreedomWorks‘ Dick Armey
Walgreens, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Wal-Mart Stores, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
WellPoint, “Director” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
The Williams Company (natural gas company),
Xcel Energy, State corporate co-chair of Wisconsin
YUM! Brands (owner of Kentucky Fried Chicken, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Long John Silver’s and A&W), State corporate co-chair of Kentucky and Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force Labor and Business Regulation Subcommittee member
Law Firms

Adams and Reese LLP (law firm in the southern United States and Washington, D.C.),
Avenson, Oakley & Cope (Iowa lobbying firm
Bryan Cave (St. Louis, MO law firm
Capital Connections, LLC (Vermont lobbying firm,
The Capitol Group (Louisiana lobbying firm representing Reed Elsevier’s Lexis-Nexis,
Casteel and Roberts (Austin, TX lobbying firm
Hamilton Consulting Group (Wisconsin lobbying firm
Hein Law Firm (Kansas law and lobbying firm,
Jim Dunlap Consultants (Oklahoma lobbying firm
Jones Walker (law firm in the Gulf South
Lindsay, Hart, Neil & Weigler LLP (Oregon law and lobbying firm),
Mullikin Law Firm (South Carolina law firm
Nelson, Mullins, Riley and Scarborough (a nationwide law and lobbying firm),
NH Government Solutions Group, LLC (New Hampshire lobbying firm
Nickles Group (Washington, D.C. lobbying firm with clients including Bristol-Myers Squibb, CIGNA Corporation, Comcast, Eli Lilly and Company, Exxon Mobil and Monsanto
Preti Flaherty (Maine law and lobbying firm
Roedel, Parsons, Koch, Blache, Balhoff & McCollister (Louisiana law and lobbying firm[74]
Serlin Haley, LLP (Boston public law firm
Southern Strategy Group (division of US Strategy Group, network of lobbying firms
TE Williams & Associates LLC (Louisiana lobbying firm
Vogel Law Firm (a North Dakota and Minnesota law and lobbying firm


ALEC Board of Scholars:

Kay Coles James - President and Founder of the Gloucester Institute; and formerly Senior Fellow and Director of “The Citizenship Project” at the Heritage Foundation, Dean of the School of Government at Regent University, Secretary of Health and Human Resources for former Virginia Governor George Allen (where she implemented Virginia’s controversial welfare reform initiative), Director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management during George W. Bush‘s administration, Senior Vice President of the Family Research Council, Associate Director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy and Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services during George H.W. Bush‘s administration, member of the National Commission on Children during Ronald Reagan‘s administration, and Boardmember of Focus on the Family
Arthur B. Laffer - Inventor of the “Laffer Curve,” often called “the father of supply-side economics,” Co-chair of the Policy Council for the Free Enterprise Fund, a lobbying organization founded by Stephen Moore and other Club for Growth members; and formerly member of the Economic Policy Advisory Board during Ronald Reagan‘s administration and active in his 1980 and 1984 presidential campaigns, and Chief Economist at the Office of Management and Budget during Richard Nixon‘s administration
Stephen Moore - Founder of the Club for Growth and member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board[8] who has been called “a voodoo economist”;[9] and formerly: Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute, senior economist at the Joint Economic Committee under Chairman Dick Armey (TX) and Grover M. Hermann Fellow in Budgetary Affairs at the Heritage Foundation.[10]
Victor Schwartz - Partner at the Washington D.C. offices of Shook, Hardy & Bacon, LLP — a law and lobbying firm that has represented big tobacco companies such as Philip Morris (now Altria Group), big pharmaceutical companies such as Bristol-Myers Squibb and GlaxoSmithKline, and big technology companies such as Sprint Nextel, Microsoft and Sony. He has been very active in the arena of tort reform and has been called “the undisputed king of tort reform and considered one of Washington, D.C.’s 50 top lobbyists; Formerly a lawyer and lobbyist at Crowell & Moring for 21 years; Director of the Federal Insurance Administration from 1978-1980, and a professor and dean at the University of Cincinnati College of Law.[
Richard Vedder - Economics professor at Ohio University, and Senior Fellow at The Independent Institute and theAmerican Enterprise Institute; and formerly a commentator for the Mackinac Center for Public Policy on such issues as spending on public schools,[ , for the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution on issues such as immigration and labor, and Board member of the National Taxpayers Union.
Bob Williams - Founder and Senior Fellow of the Freedom Foundation-- previously known as the Evergreen Freedom Foundation, a libertarian organization whose mission "is to advance individual liberty, free enterprise, and limited, accountable government"--[23] Board Member of the State Policy Network and a “visiting fellow” at the Mercatus Center; and formerly an auditor for the Pentagon and Post Office, and a five term state legislator in Washington State.


Not-For-Profit Organizations

Alliance Defense Fund,
American Civil Rights Institute and Coalition,
American Enterprise Institute
American Federation for Children, “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
American Principles Project, ALEC Education Task Force member
American Stewards of Liberty (a private property rights organization)
Americans for Tax Reform,
Americans United for Life (pro-life advocacy group),
Better Education for Kids (B4K) (a 501(c)4 advocacy group whose tax exempt status was revoked by the IRS June 9, 2011) – Derrell Bradford, Executive Director, spoke on “Enacting a Comprehensive K-12 Education Reform Agenda” at the 2011 ALEC Annual Meeting
Capitol Commission (a non-profit that “exists… to be a vehicle of God in transforming the hearts and lives of elected officials with the gospel of Jesus Christ”),
Cato Institute,
Center for Competitive Politics, Public Safety and Elections Task Force Executive Committee member
Center for Security Policy,
Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
Citizens in Charge
Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation,
European Conservatives and Reformists (“multinational grouping of 56 Members of the European Parliament”),
Family Research Council,
Florida Justice Reform Association, ALEC Civil Justice Task Force member
Foundation for Excellence in Education (a Florida 501(c)3 focusing on education reform -
Foundation for Fair Civil Justice[22]
Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of and exhibitor at 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Fraser Institute Global Resource Center’, ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
Freedom Foundation, Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force and Public Safety and Elections Task Force member[24] and recipient of ALEC’s 2011 Private Sector Member of the Year Award
Free State Foundation (think tank promoting free markets, limited government and rule of law principles in telecommunications and information technology policy) -
Friedman Foundation for Educational Choice,
Heartland Institute[28], Telecommunications and Information Technology Task Force member, Education Task Force member, Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force Financial Services Subcommittee member and Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
Heritage Foundation,
Illinois Policy Institute ALEC Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force member
Independence Institute, ALEC International Relations Task Force member
Innosight Institute (in its own words, “a not-for-profit, non-partisan think tank whose mission is to apply Harvard Business School Professor Clayton M. Christensen’s theories of disruptive innovation to develop and promote solutions to the most vexing problems in the social sector”), ALEC Education Task Force member
Institute for Energy Research, ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
Institute for Justice, ALEC Public Safety and Elections Task Force member
Institute for Policy Innovation
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) Utility Department -
Iowans for Tax Relief (lobbying group, PAC and foundation),
Lumina Foundation for Education (“private, independent foundation… committed to enrolling and graduating more students from college”), “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Mackinac Center for Public Policy
Mercatus Center at George Mason University,
National Association of Charter School Authorizers, ALEC Education Task Force member
National Board for Professional Teaching Standards, Education Task Force member
National Organization for Marriage,
National Popular Vote (a non-partisan 501(c)(4) devoted to guaranteeing the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states while retaining the Electoral College; ALEC has published model legislation specifically opposed to the national popular vote, but in August 2011 hosted a debate on “Electoral College v. National Popular Vote”), ALEC Public Safety and Elections Task Force member
National Rifle Association, former co-chair of ALEC Public Safety and Elections Task Force in 2011, “Vice Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (the lobbying arm of the NRA),
National Right to Life Committee, Inc. (the largest anti-abortion organization in the U.S.),
National Right to Work Committee,
National Taxpayers Union
Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs, ALEC Education Task Force member
Prison Fellowship Ministries
ProFamily Legislative Network (a subdivision of David Barton‘s WallBuilders),
Reason Foundation, ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force and Telecommunications and Information Technology Task Force member
The Republican Legislative Campaign Committee (dedicated exclusively to electing more Republicans to state legislatures),
RestoringFreedom.org, Inc. (Texas nonprofit corporation proposing a Constitutional amendment “which imposes economic discipline to stop our decline into economic failure, and makes our government more accountable, open, and transparent”Trustee” level sponsor of and exhibitor at 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Science and Public Policy Institute, ALEC Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force member
Solar Alliance (“works with state administrators, legislators and utilities to establish cost effective solar policies”),
State Budget Solutions,
State Policy Network, “Chairman” level sponsor of and exhibitor at 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Stop Child Predators, Corporate Co-chair
Tax Foundation, ALEC Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force member
Texas Public Policy Foundation
United Services Automobile Association (“a diversified financial services group of companies [providing] financial planning, insurance, investments and banking products to members of the U.S. military and their families”), “Trustee” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
Walton Family Foundation, “Chairman” level sponsor of 2011 ALEC Annual Conference
WallBuilders (founded by “Christian historical revisionist” David Barton),
Washington Policy Center Public Safety and Elections Task Force member
Where’s the Line America? Foundation,
Youth Villages,

[kk4aei]

We had a brief chat with Drake et al last night...things are progressing behind the scenes, though it's not a smooth ride. There are sooooooo many people working behind the scenes on both sides of the fence, that it's an AWESOME battle to behold. The really BIG stuff won't manifest until this fall.

See http://pscinet2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[Avocadess]

Stan: Wasn't that BEFORE Kettler had his own change of heart that Kerry said she was not going along with what Drake was doing? It is possible Kerry will (or has) have/had a change of heart as well.

I certainly hope so. It was rather shocking to me that BOTH Bill and Kerry dismissed him rather out of hand from the very beginning.

OF COURSE you should post here, Stan (Aranuk)...! This is a GLOBAL thing -- and Drake has mentioned this often...!

I also want to mention -- just because no one seems to have mentioned it yet -- that the interview Kerry Cassidy did last night was with Keith Scott and ONLY Keith Scott -- although they certainly did talk about Keenan (and others). It felt like that interview went by all too quickly! There is a thread on PA calling both Keenan and Scott lawyers. I thought that too before I heard this interview. Keenan is a Trustee for the bonds of gold for the Asian contingent as I understand it (maybe more?) and Scott understands law better than Keenan but is also not a lawyer. Someone already posted this distinction above, but I am repeating this because it could be easily missed and now that so many of us "had it in our heads" that Keenan and Scott were lawyers it is good to have that clarified. And that Keenan and Scott are working with a very good lawyer of integrity -- and that Keenan was chosen as Trustee because of his reputation of both smartness/cleverness and INTEGRITY.

Scott also mentioned that the bad guys tried to "buy off" Keenan with $100 million. Did not work. Let's hear it for integrity!!

Thanks to Blueskywalking on another thread here on PA for this bit:

Show archive just uploaded:

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-050212.mp3 (LINK FIXED) but you may need to copy and paste into your address bar

******

Disappointing to hear that the "big stuff" will not happen until this fall by previous poster who says s/he spoke with Drake and others in on the Plan last night. I do understand however that this is an ENORMOUS undertaking involving SO MANY high-level people. I also understand that saying this would all happen by June could very well have been a way of "shaking the trees."

I don't do Reiki, but I have had a very strong sense from the beginning that Drake is an authentic person and is who he says he is. I also understand that in war that there are bluffs at times. If saying it was sooner than it really is was a bluff with a strategy, who am I to complain? (And believe me, I KNOW that others will. We'll have people pooh-poohing Drake until the cows come home.)

Speaking of the cows coming home: I agree also with the poster who said that many probably don't like Drake because of his Southern accent. I have come across that sort of prejudice in people before who think that anyone with a Southern accent is wrong, primitive, crude, stupid, etc. That is just WRONG. It is every bit as wrong as racism.

[aranuk]

Yes.


Stan

[Space_Ace]

We had a brief chat with Drake et al last night...things are progressing behind the scenes, though it's not a smooth ride. There are sooooooo many people working behind the scenes on both sides of the fence, that it's an AWESOME battle to behold. The really BIG stuff won't manifest until this fall.

What month has the mass arrests been delayed to again? What are the odds mass arrests will even happen this year? How will people have enough time to wake and prepare for ascension end of this year?

[aranuk]

We had a brief chat with Drake et al last night...things are progressing behind the scenes, though it's not a smooth ride. There are sooooooo many people working behind the scenes on both sides of the fence, that it's an AWESOME battle to behold. The really BIG stuff won't manifest until this fall.

Hi there kk. Who are the "we" that you say had a chat with Drake. What do you mean by the really big stuff?
I am not quizing you, just curious.

Stan

[Fred Steeves]

The problem in this country will be cynics, naysayers, arm chair quarterbacks and folks who think because Drake is southern he can't possibly have any credibility. I've always known that prejudice existed in many communities. Still, I am shocked to see it here. Peace ya'll

I must have missed the southern bias againt Drake here. But lest there be any doubt, I'm a genuine born and raised Florida cracker, so his southern heritage bothers me not in the least. Same as anybody elses heritage.

Now I don't really think he's a baddie from the House of Sunstein, no, I think he likely has genuinely noble intentions. He is however being taken for a ride by such people, who are masters of manipulation of our emotions and passions. Once the latest distraction unwittingly played by Drake and the mass arrest thing are forgotten, or seen for what they were,(Elenin ring a bell?) you can bet there will be a brand new one dropped off on our front doorstep. Same old thing, just in a nice fresh new looking package, wrapped with a big pretty red bow.

Bill's hat has little to be concerned about.:)

[Unified Serenity]

Hey Fred,

I was thinking the same thing. I have not heard one person dismiss Drake and company over his southern accent. I am wondering if this is just one more stereotype that some want to push now because all gun toting, bible thumping, conspiracy minded folks are dumb inbred Southerners right? For those making that claim of doubters not liking Drake simply because of his accent, please provide an example of that. I haven't seen it.

[Avocadess]

Space_Ace: Why not prepare for Ascension with every moment of every day? No reason to put that off due to the war with the dark cabal

kk4aei: What you are saying makes total sense to me. (I take it that we were told "by June" before and "30-45 days" before that to sort of "shake the trees"?) Thanks for posting here!

[Unified Serenity]

I'm going to sit back and watch the goal posts move yet again. Oh, there will be some new explanation as always. It's a trick, It's happening, but the media isn't reporting it, we delayed it ourselves by recognizing that it was a planned event. The stories and excuses will go on and on until we recognize that we are lab rats being watched in some psychological experiment. Cheering for it, debunking it, or just sitting watching and eating cheese are all acceptable options in the experiment because it's just collecting data about what the average rat oh I mean sheeple is thinking and doing. The only true sovereignty is to get out of the box and leave the lab.

I won't say I won't comment anymore, but I will say that I recognize the experiment, the players and the rats/sheeple. I myself don't like being part of an experiment.

Have fun all.

[Avocadess]

Haha. On the show when Drake called in Kerry asked everyone to hold on while she wrote down Drake's contact info and Drake said, "I guess I'm a consummate troublemaker," and Kerry responded with something like, "Well, you and I have that in common."

[Unified Serenity]

Most often, those accused of being trouble makers within this community are often caught spinning or helping to spin tall tales.

[Alie]

Haha. On the show when Drake called in Kerry asked everyone to hold on while she wrote down Drake's contact info and Drake said, "I guess I'm a consummate troublemaker," and Kerry responded with something like, "Well, you and I have that in common."

what are you referring to? That seems important.

[Dennis Leahy]

I have just realised that I have no rights interfering with my opinions about Drake and the plan, as I am a foreign national. Have I really got any rights in your matters? I haven't got a vote. I haven't got a gun either. I also don't understand your electoral system. You Americans have every right to tell me to keep out of your discussions. Am I allowed to thank peoples posts? Or is it possible through the internet? You tell me.
This plan that Drake speaks about is a huge and serious business for you Americans. Life or death in other words.
God be on your side.

Stan
Hi Stan,

Once upon a time... Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians dominated the "known world", at other times in history, Rome, Greece, England...France and Spain were powerhouses as were the Dutch and Portuguese Russians, Japanese, Chinese...

Right now, the US is the dominant force in geopolitics. The Dark Cabal has a lot of their global dominance mechanisms (finance, energy, military, etc.) headquartered in the US. That makes the US everyone's business - every life form on planet Earth. You are most certainly a part of the force of good, the solution.

Oh, and have I mentioned that US citizens don't get a vote either - it is simply a circus to make the sleepy ones think they are voting for these bastards. The Cabal picks 2, and the citizens get to pick one from those 2. hahahahah We are such dumbasses! Now, if we don't pick the one the Cabal really wants, they simply flip the vote on the machines. US citizens are 100% powerless in electoral politics at the high-office positions (and most are utterly clueless about the electoral process, even if it wasn't rigged nine ways.) You'd have to get a lot dumber to be an average American. :~)

Dennis

[Bill Ryan]

We had a brief chat with Drake et al last night...things are progressing behind the scenes, though it's not a smooth ride. There are sooooooo many people working behind the scenes on both sides of the fence, that it's an AWESOME battle to behold. The really BIG stuff won't manifest until this fall.

Sure sounds like the NESARA 'prosperity packages', and the revaluation of the Dinar.

:)

(When will people learn?!)

[StarDust]

Sure sounds like the NESARA 'prosperity packages', and the revaluation of the Dinar.

:)

(When will people learn?!)


Is this the real Bill Ryan? Or the surrogate 'Bill Ryan' that has been posting on other threads?

From the 'hat eating' thread:




Funny thread :)

I hope Bill reads it.

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

:)

Note the third person perspective of the response.

[Hervé]

Best summary analysis I have run into in my meanderings:


In 2007 the EU prevented a nuclear war with Iran by pressuring Bush with potential war crimes like torture. That war was a high weapon industry priority, so in 2008 the banksters started the greatest economic crisis since the 30’s.

In 2009 the EU announced an investigation that exposed the greatest health care (Big Pharma) fraud in history. http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-and-%E2%80%9Cpandemic%E2%80%9D-scandal/ (http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-and-%E2%80%9Cpandemic%E2%80%9D-scandal/)

So in 2010 the banksters withdrew investments from Europe to cause a relative stable economy to shake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_European_sovereign_debt_crisis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_European_sovereign_debt_crisis) Not because we performed bad but because it dropped S & P ratings and poor countries had to pay insurmountable interests (apart from other banking fraud).

Now we attack Murdock for his war mongering (and potentially expose illegal acts of Homeland Security) so they drop their own ratings because if America becomes a liability, the rates will go up thus debts skyrocket, can’t be repaid and we’ll have another global crisis.

So we’ll have to fight the banksters again to turn this threat into our favour.

[r3divory]

I just read something and want to post it here, do I just post the link? I want to follow the rules of the forum and this is my first post.

[karelia]

I just read something and want to post it here, do I just post the link? I want to follow the rules of the forum and this is my first post.

Welcome to Avalon!

Post the link, yes, and a little summary. Thanks.

[r3divory]

This is an article from king world news. It's an interview with Hugo Salinas Price regarding the Elites' plan to control the world via socialism. I'm not sure if this is the thread to post it in, but this is the thread I am familiar with. If it needs to be moved or does not belong here just let me know and I will be more mindful when where I place my posts. Thank you for your patience and understanding to a newbie.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/5/3_Billionaire_Hugo_Salinas_Price_-_Elites_Plan_to_Control_the_World.html

[Molope]

Sure sounds like the NESARA 'prosperity packages', and the revaluation of the Dinar.

:)

(When will people learn?!)


Is this the real Bill Ryan? Or the surrogate 'Bill Ryan' that has been posting on other threads?

From the 'hat eating' thread:




Funny thread :)

I hope Bill reads it.

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

:)

Note the third person perspective of the response.


I dont see a change of him or his attitude hes just posting his opinion in your first quote and on the second its just a normal response they said Bill ryan will eat his hat and etc and he replied "Bill as read it" on 3rd person not as nothing extrange but like keeping the flow of the conversation.

Thanks.

[StarDust]

As a reminder, Drake will be doing his weekly thursday show this afternoon:

Thurs 3-5pm PST w/ Randy, Deatra, Sam & Drake - VIA Free Thinking Radio: http://freethinkingradio.com/

Recorded shows will be available about 1 hour after show commences: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/archive.php

[Avocadess]

Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the [four-letter word beginning with s and ending in t -- or five letters ending in e if you are Scottish].

[StarDust]

Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the ****e.

I get a sense that "Bill" has a stand in who is drafting all these responses. The energy signature of the most recent "responses" from bill do not seem to be genuinely his.

[StarDust]

I dont see a change of him or his attitude hes just posting his opinion in your first quote and on the second its just a normal response they said Bill ryan will eat his hat and etc and he replied "Bill as read it" on 3rd person not as nothing extrange but like keeping the flow of the conversation.

Thanks.

Unless you are a sports megastar, most people do not refer to themselves in the 3rd person. And even when sports stars do it, it's pretty atrocious.

[Avocadess]

Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

[karelia]

Avocadess,

Please stay. Surely it would take more than one single individual's opinion to drive you away. So many people have come to not just like you but respect you and look up to you because of your relentless enthusiasm that is positively infectious. Stay and continue to shine your bright light, and other individuals will perhaps learn to do the same.

Much love to you.

[r3divory]

I haven't listened to every interview Drake has given. I would like to believe what I have heard is true. I have tried to check in my area for the community thing he was talking about but there doesn't seem to be one. I'm not quite sure how to start one. I have however started a small garden, and we have been starting a small food supply. We have a generator that if nothing else will keep our well pump and refrigerator/freezers running if we lose power and we have a very small supply of PM's just in case we need it. I would not turn anyone away that is hungry, but I alone do not have enough to feed everyone. This is a big community and those I have tried to talk to to take small steps to prepare look at me like I'm some crazed lunatic. I'm new to the whole awakening process, but I have had questions my entire life about my Christian upbringing that have never been answered to my satisfaction. I found this community quite by accident ( or maybe it was no accident). I am completely open to every possibility that can answer my questions about why we are here satisfactorily even if it is out of the comfort zone. I can see people's frustration or mistrust of Drake, I myself have read so many different ideas on what is going on, it's hard to believe anything at this point. I just have to trust in my instinct and the fact I was drawn here. Maybe it's something inside me telling me this is the place. I've had my instinct save my life twice, so I try not to 2nd guess it too much. What I do know, is there are bad things happening everywhere and I for one am looking forward to something positive. It's got to change soon. When something goes up, it must come down. When there is dark there must also be light, we have seen much to much dark and it is time for the lights to shine.

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[childs hood end]

I find it a bit strange that bill has not bin posting on avalon for a time...
yet since drake has come onto the scene hes bin back more...
but only seems to be pushing on negative treads ? like....

Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

FUKUSHIMA -- Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44568-FUKUSHIMA-Gen.-Bert-Stubblebine-s-Personal-Estimate-of-the-Situation-IMPORTANT

You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44570-You-are-all-suspects-now.-What-are-you-going-to-do-about-it-JOHN-PILGER

kinda pushing fear in a way...

only saying what i feel.

hope alls well..............

[StarDust]

I find it a bit strange that bill has not bin posting on avalon for a time...
yet since drake has come onto the scene hes bin back more...
but only seems to be pushing on negative treads ? like....

Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

FUKUSHIMA -- Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44568-FUKUSHIMA-Gen.-Bert-Stubblebine-s-Personal-Estimate-of-the-Situation-IMPORTANT

You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44570-You-are-all-suspects-now.-What-are-you-going-to-do-about-it-JOHN-PILGER

kinda pushing fear in a way...

only saying what i feel.

hope alls well..............


That is precisely what I have intuited from his recent "responses". Fear mongering is fear mongering no matter who the person is who is perpetrating that fear.

Please don't leave Avocodess, you are a force for positivity and you are loved. Please stay!

[KiwiElf]

Avocadess,

Please stay. Surely it would take more than one single individual's opinion to drive you away. So many people have come to not just like you but respect you and look up to you because of your relentless enthusiasm that is positively infectious. Stay and continue to shine your bright light, and other individuals will perhaps learn to do the same.

Much love to you.

And that's a second from meh - please stay :):thumb:

[Fred Steeves]

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.


Hey there Avocadess, this is a fine place to share your passion. I for one appreciate your passion in this particular matter, but I just don't happen to agree with it. That's o.k. isn't it? Many here will remember a major disagreement I had with certain members back in December, including Bill. I left in a big huff, and just recently decided that was a mistake, so I requested my full membership back.

This is one thing I have learned from that. Most people here are really great people, we're all in the same boat, and we all want basically the same thing. We are most fortunate to have this forum, and others, for folks of like mind to gather and discuss an extremely wide range in subjects. Sometimes personalities clash, sometimes we're in flat out disagreement, and quite frankly sometimes our passions get the better of us. Hey, we're all struggling humans right?

This has been our problem for so long now Avocadess. Not only do we allow ourselves to be divided for a myriad of bulls**t reasons from outside, but it's so ingrained we almost naturally do the exact same thing to ourselves as well. We make it easy. Hell, I've been guilty of that my entire life. It's high time to stop fragmenting, and refragmenting ourselves. Enough is enough, divide and conquer works every time it's tried. It's an ancient game. Drake or no Drake, this is something we all have under our direct control. Contrary to popular belief, the ball is in our court, not theirs.

Good people of noble intent can agree to disagree sometimes. Sometimes it can even get a bit heated. But maybe it's time we stop bleeding ourselves out over self inflicted wounds, and lock arms in a higher purpose.

How bout it huh?:)

Cheers,
Fred

[Cognitive Dissident]

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is the third dimension. Polarities, opposites, etc. It is OK that everyone doesn't agree all the time!
I hope that Avocadess stays here and can derive some benefit from the wonderful mix of people on the forum. The more positive people, the better.
From a spiritual perspective, we are taught not to judge other people, right? Well, doesn't that mean that we don't judge people as being "negative" or "positive"? You can have a "negative" view on, say Fukushima, but have an overall "positive" view of what is going on with humanity's evolution, and why we all incarnated here at this time....
Yes, Bill has posted some "negative" threads recently, but if you have watched his interviews and read his "big picture" thoughts, you will realise that he is a highly positive person.
My personal opinion on all of this - NESARA is clearly nonsense, this Drake character is interesting but its not gospel truth (no pun intended), things are evolving very quickly in many ways that we cannot easily understand, but to try and reduce it to "mass arrests" of the bad guys or "destruction of underground bases" of the bad guys is simplistic. But it this way, these "events" could actually be metaphors, or happening on a subtle level, not on the gross physical plane.

[Jeffrey]

Avocadess! Don't leave! We need people like you here, people who CARE, and are diligent to boot. I'm going to put a quote here and their are people who fall on both sides of it.

         
To deny the possibility of the existence of anything of which we know nothing, would imply that we imagined ourselves to be in possession of all the knowledge that exists in the world, and believed that nothing could  exist of which we did not know.  A person who  peremptorily denies the existence of anything which is  beyond the horizon of his understanding, because he  cannot make it harmonize with his accepted opinions, is as credulous as he who believes everything without any discrimination.

Sure, Bill is the host here and his opinions carry weight, but don't let them weigh you down. You are indispensable here, as are all members. Please, don't leave on account of a difference of opinion, and don't take it personally. I hope you stay, and if you decide not too, I wish you well.

And I'm sure we can all agree that Bill would love to have to eat his hat.

[Mozart]

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find.




NNOOOOOOOOOO!


Don't leave, Avocadess!


Stay, please!


~Mozart

[gripreaper]

but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

Oh for goodness sake. We cannot have a difference of opinion without feelings getting ruffled, and people taking their ball and bat and going home?

I'm wondering if the awakening can progress and consciousness can ascend, which is really what it is all about, not whether Drake is sincere or not, or whether his plan is a psyop or real.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

Really? You perceive that because Bill has a different opinion of what is happening than you that you are being bullied?

Wow.

I don't even know what to say to that. Do you need everyone to agree with you and share your version of reality in order to feel safe? I'm just baffled by this.

Lots of us disagree with Bill on any number of issues. This has never been the "I Agree With Bill Club". Ask Mozart.

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[aranuk]

Call me a fool if you will, but I still trust Drake, David Wilcock, et al.

Alie: I wouldn't read too much into that. I just thought it was a cute exchange.

Just for imagination's sake: If the naysayers turned out to be correct and the hangman's noose is going our all our necks now and they plan to "hang" us this fall, then I guess I'd have to say Alex Jones is all true too and everything is terrible and horrible and nothing can save us and there is nothing we can do. Am I willing to live with that perspective? No.

Back to reality. Things ARE awful, terrible and despicable. ALL THE MORE REASON for everyone to do what s/he CAN do to help further the cause of freeing humanity -- and I do believe we/they ARE doing that.

What is sticking in your craw about Drake, Bill? I really don't get it. I thought you of all people would sense something beautiful going on here amidst all the [four-letter word beginning with s and ending in t -- or five letters ending in e if you are Scottish].

is that you getting a dig in at me Avocadess?


Stan

[Dennis Leahy]

...Unless you are a sports megastar, most people do not refer to themselves in the 3rd person. And even when sports stars do it, it's pretty atrocious.
Perhaps English is a second language or you are unfamiliar with modern stand-up comedy. It was a joke. You know, like, in a stage production, two people whisper loudly, "I hope Marty never finds out!", and then Marty, whom they didn't see, says, "Marty found out."

Dennis

[aranuk]

As a reminder, Drake will be doing his weekly thursday show this afternoon:

Thurs 3-5pm PST w/ Randy, Deatra, Sam & Drake - VIA Free Thinking Radio: http://freethinkingradio.com/

Recorded shows will be available about 1 hour after show commences: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/archive.php

Hi Stardust I seem to be hearing a loop of 20 minutes or so and it keeps repeating. What is going on?


Stan

[Dennis Leahy]

Well, whether it is Bill or someone he trusts to post for him, I find his comments on several threads to be an effort to bully people like myself to get OFF this forum altogether so people can talk about the world the way HE sees it. Not that he has spoken more forcefully than the average poster -- but it IS his forum after all, and I really do NOT care to stay anywhere I am unwelcome -- even online -- when the host himself is putting me down.

I guess I'll have to exit now. Anyone who wants to see what I'm posting about Drake, et al. -- I'm easy enough to find. I may just get more active on my blog or "Door #2" on Avocadess.com and bid you all a fond farewell. (Well, I can't say I've been fond of ALL of those here, but I don't hold any grudges either. I'd rather "travel light.")

Wishing you all the best.

I'm sorry this did not turn out to be a good place to share my passion, but any actor on the stage can feeling it when they are getting "the hook" and I'd rather just bow out now.

Best wishes to you, Bill. I totally disagree with you, man, but I do appreciate all the work you have done in the past and wish you the best. Thanks for making this forum available. It was an awful lot of fun for a while.

(NOTE: Please no one bother to PM me. I doubt I'll be back to check.)

Whoa! Please breathe.

Unless it's in another thread I did not see, Bill has said nothing even remotely that you are unwelcome.

Bill does not believe the Drake scenario. That OK, right? Bill is not Avalon. Avalon is a lonely place with just one person. Bill encourages discussion. He thinks we're fooling ourselves. He could be right - I think he's wrong. I teased him about marinating his hat.

As long as no one is a total asshole/arsehole to each other, we get to express our opinions, including "naysaying" and "cheerleading" and all points in between.

At this point, the Dark Cabal controls and uses the US government as their geopolitical 'front line', and US soil to base their operations. I tried the only thing I think could possibly have worked to remove their front line (The Reset Button) and it ain't happening. So, we either have a group of patriots about to try the very difficult (maybe nearly impossible) task of taking down the Dark Cabal, or we are all in a huge toilet and the water is swirling. I don't just choose to believe Drake because there is nothing left, I believe with my gut based on listening. There will be an attempt, I am convinced. Bill thinks because they have broadcast (a tiny bit of ) the Plan, that it can't be real. I say, it was necessary to broadcast a tiny bit of the Plan. Might even be strategic. Where in the hell are they going to run to? You know, in karate, the scream before the attack? It has a purpose - it is not to "warn" the opponent and telegraph the Plan.

Please, my friend, get on back here. You are among friends, and some detractors. Such is life. It will make the hat-eating ceremony more fun!

Dennis

[Fred Steeves]

O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!

In case you were wondering? Hand tools not included...:wof:

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[ThePythonicCow]

O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!
Ugh - that one's going to taste baaaad :).

[xbusymom]

In case you were wondering? Hand tools not included...:wof:



What ?!?... I thought everybody needed more iron in their diet??

[KiwiElf]

Re: Mass Arrests Have Already Started?
Nowhere, in this "unfolding adventure" ;) can I recall Drake, Wilcock etc stating that this would occur "instantaneously", or "simultaneously" or "within a day" etc (add any time period of your choosing). I would say the odds of doing that - even in a single week - are not impossiible but extremely unlikely.

If you have been monitoring Sabrina's post, the "trend" has now switched from resignations to criminal investigations and actual arrests of some very big players. (Even in little New Zealand, I'm seeing steadily growing change and signs that something IS changing positively and with increasing momentum - even on the MSM. For those who do not watch MSM, you will not see this. The "mass arrests" have already started :)

"...You might not be able to eat a whole elephant in a single sitting - but you CAN ... just ONE bite at a time..."


Re: Plans rarely run "on schedule" or "EXACTLY to plan"
Anyone who is a student or practioner of Project Management - and to each and every individual who does "a little" planning in their daily lives ie, "shopping" - rarely has a perfect plan run exactly as pre-planned. It is virtually impossible!. The greater the number of possible outcomes, the greater the chance that change will inevitably occur. Consider it an ongoing Work In Progress at best, it will constantly change. There are an endless number of possible outcomes, again, which do you prefer? :)

Yin & Yang

16127

Study this symbol for a moment. The circle can represent any unfolding event over any time period if viewed in this way: Have you noticed the little white dot amongst the black (or its opposing duality, the little black dot in the vast white?). I seriously doubt that ONE person has ALL the information, ALL of the "story". Go with the general flow you prefer. In this instance, the journey ie "getting to the goal" and the "goal" are inseparable. How we get there is perhaps secondary to its overall achievement.

We do not need a "savior" or "saving"
That is up to each and every one of you, both individually and collectively. If you feel you need to be "saved", understand you will create in your own realities, (ie you will " attract") all the "tools" you need to reinforce this belief & reflect back to you "that you need saving". The opposite is ALSO true. :)


Change the channel to "self-empowerment" :) Fasten all seatbelts ;)

Create the reality you prefer! with integrity ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION

[xbusymom]

Re: Mass Arrests Have Already Started?
Nowhere, in this "unfolding adventure" ;) can I recall Drake, Wilcock etc stating that this would occur "instantaneously", or "simultaneously" or "within a day" etc (add any time period of your choosing). I would say the odds of doing that - even in a single week - are not impossiible but extremely unlikely.

If you have been monitoring Sabrina's post, the "trend" has now switched from resignations to criminal investigations and actual arrests of some very big players. (Even in little New Zealand, I'm seeing steadily growing change and signs that something IS changing positively and with increasing momentum - even on the MSM. For those who do not watch MSM, you will not see this. The "mass arrests" have already started :)

"...You might not be able to eat a whole elephant in a single sitting - but you CAN ... just ONE bite at a time..."


Re: Plans rarely run "on schedule" or "EXACTLY to plan"
Anyone who is a student or practioner of Project Management - and to each and every individual who does "a little" planning in their daily lives ie, "shopping" - rarely has a perfect plan run exactly as pre-planned. It is virtually impossible!. The greater the number of possible outcomes, the greater the chance that change will inevitably occur. Consider it an ongoing Work In Progress at best, it will constantly change. There are an endless number of possible outcomes, again, which do you prefer? :)

Yin & Yang

16127

Study this symbol for a moment. The circle can represent any unfolding event over any time period if viewed in this way: Have you noticed the little white dot amongst the black (or its opposing duality, the little black dot in the vast white?). I seriously doubt that ONE person has ALL the information, ALL of the "story". Go with the general flow you prefer. In this instance, the journey ie "getting to the goal" and the "goal" are inseparable. How we get there is perhaps secondary to its overall achievement.

We do not need a "savior" or "saving"
That is up to each and every one of you, both individually and collectively. If you feel you need to be "saved", understand you will create in your own realities, (ie you will " attract") all the "tools" you need to reinforce this belief & reflect back to you "that you need saving". The opposite is ALSO true. :)


Change the channel to "self-empowerment" :) Fasten all seatbelts ;)

Create the reality you prefer! ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION

Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???
Do we really want to go down the same "the ends justify the means" road again???

[DreamsInDigital]

O.K. then Dennis, I'm in too brother... Might need some help on this one, but I hereby offer up my ever faithful, and now held together by duct tape carpenter's tool apron for my dining pleasure, if this "plan" pans out as advertised, and happily so btw!
Ugh - that one's going to taste baaaad :).
Baaaad? What are you a goat now? I thought you's a cow, man. ;) :p

[foreverfan]

http://www.stjohnte.com/images/eat-hat-cropped.jpg

[Space_Ace]

I read the last few dozen posts and will just keep thinking positive. Did Drake have anything new to say? Are mass arrests still scheduled for June? I am going to miss Avocadess who decided to take a break because too many of us were being negative and disagreeing. Can anyone else give us hearing impaired individuals a summary in a few sentences what Drake said?

[Ishtar]

ETs are waiting for the day humanity is united in Spirit...looks like we have our work cut out for us.

Humanity is already united in Spirit... we are just not united in thought.

We are independent thinkers and have our own views on things and long may that last. That diversity of inspired ideas, dreams and opinions makes us who we are.

If your "ETs" are waiting for a change in that, please tell them that they'd be better off turning around their craft and heading back to where they came from. We don't need any new age fascist religion with spaceships nor a new, updated version of Original Sin here, thank you.

[KiwiElf]

Create the reality you prefer! ... In thought... In Word ... In ACTION[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???
Do we really want to go down the same "the ends justify the means" road again???

:) That is ONE possibility... (only a few billion more to go! ;)

I would suggest the addition of "... with integrity" to the above. Integrity, integrate, integral. This generates more positive synchronicity...

Without integrity creates separation and more negative synchronicity

Choose wisely :)

[Bo Atkinson]

Just got through the latest: 2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

I'm listening to all these over other (income-aiming) work. I have largely multi-tracked my awareness which dropped me out of school very young. Too many things are plain boring, so it goes. This morning doing some concrete counter top promo, photoshopping before and after, writing proposal contract segments.

I support sentient and coherent discussion of 'Drake'. Dragons reptiles, turtles or any other historical perception or precept of creation actually seems acceptable for discussion, with regard to the coverage by Drake. Societal frameworks seem up to the people to assist in molding locally. It sounds somewhat libertarian except acknowledging some sort of "social values" like police, military, infrastructure, presumably with a lot of public input... The word of antiestablishmentarianism and it's history seem to fit, the dialog so far. This is so huge an undertaking that it does draw in, tons of histories and her stories. One liners simply don't apply. Except for a little fun, which is OK.

Psyops or another dictator to replace the current ones is totally speculative. Just as are the multiple independent observation of world wide collapse, (of many things). Let the beam of one's hearing be deciphered in one's very own mind-- While assessing beliefs or outside assertions, as potentially flawed perception, somewhere. Let freedom reign, let free-speech squelch or culturally-serenade. Thanks goes to all the gun owners and also to the highly principled people. It's not the gun, but rather the triggering of appropriate events. Drake simply says take care in this, manage your own responsibilities and help-out, according to one's own ability, to help their own communities. Get out there now, at the level one can manage and declare locally, common law. I have to study this invocation further, as my life was more devoted to multi-disciplined structure and building. Yet devotion to self-responsibility has always dominated my thoughts.

Drake seems to project country-boy-morality, which, has always seemed to me, more ethical and moral, than the political status quo. As a young boy, that life was dream. Totally shattered with Viet Nam, because i knew to much, by then. I ended up in the country all the same. I have lived in 3 countries, expat as a child, in the ruins of Rome, Italy, literally. (13 registered political parties in the post war 1950s). I grew up with locals and lot's of diplomat kids, military kids, UN kids, biz kids and Hollywood used Rome for it's special effects in those days (Ben Hur film sets and the catacombs, etc were our school trips). Also spent several months in a school near to Ishtar's town, Yeovil, Somerset. To respire something of my father-line heritage (nearer to Scotland actually). Wow, that was excessive schooling by age 18. But to beat the draft, one more kinda-school... Working for a high end scientologist in NYC, what a trip that was. I know a few things about psyops from that and subsequent contrasts of self-education since.... That a non Ph.D was selected to send out a scenario, for events yet to transpire, makes rational sense, to me, from my life perspective.

In any event... What ever will be, will be. The future is not fixed for me. Che sara, sara.

http://harmoniouspalette.com/bemoreconstuctive.jpg

Take care folks, we are all important in these coming days. Let us define the future. My dreams are always about building.

[crosby]

wavydome, i have to tell you something bizarre, may i pm you?
regards, corson

[Bo Atkinson]

wavydome, i have to tell you something bizarre, may i pm you?
regards, corson


Please do PM, if you like, anyone...

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[karelia]

<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you). On the one hand, half the forum laughs at us who resonate with Drake and figure there is no harm in believing him unless/until proven wrong, and on the other hand, you come in here and act like someone in the know without offering any verification whatsoever, and I guess we're supposed to believe you?

[Sebastion]

That's funny as I was thinking the same thing last night. Sure would be nice to be informed what kk4aei is all about!




<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you). On the one hand, half the forum laughs at us who resonate with Drake and figure there is no harm in believing him unless/until proven wrong, and on the other hand, you come in here and act like someone in the know without offering any verification whatsoever, and I guess we're supposed to believe you?

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[mountain_jim]

Review http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=478220#post478220 and http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44446-Window-of-opportunity-for-mass-arrests-is-May-5-to-June-5.-Drake-says-end-of-May.&p=478586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

If you want to verify information, suggest establishing a network of trustworthy individuals to review information presented by Drake Bailey et al and decide what is correct, what remains indeterminate, and what is simply wrong. That's what we do...pretty sure that's what Bailey, Wilcock, Fulford and others do, as well. Some of the content will be correct, some off the mark. We all decide for ourselves what is truth and what's not...we are always stuck with some 'grey area' content that may fall into either category, which is where a lot of this material seems to be categorized for the most part...the 'Maybe' category.

I read and resonated with those posts several days ago. I read and found alot of value in your alternative opinions about the likelyhood and timelines of the Plan as presented by Drake in first hour. It does resonate to me that these things are happening, or being attempted, but the Drake presentations have been too optimistic and simplified across various estimates.

I stopped listening to Drake after the first interview - but continue to follow the discussion here. I continue to prepare for some outages/disruptions but don't have a feeling for the when.

I like the Avocadess-type optimism and energy, because I do understand and resonate that we as Lightworkers and Divinely-inspired, Reality-Creators-in-training WILL and ARE having effects on these coming Events that the rationalists/common-sense positions (that Bill appears to favor) are underestimating and undervaluing in my awareness-evaluations (and perhaps Faith-based opinions).

My own Energy-Awareness and Consciousness changes-in-progress are my own validation that the above (reality-affecting-capabilities) really are happening, and accelerating.


But then:


you may say I'm a Dreamer, but I'm not the Only One'


These Dreams are becoming Reality... The issue is time - weeks/months, or years/generations? Time Will Tell.

So I have stocked up on TP, food, and provisions - but I join with the optimists in Visualizing and Resonating with the highest, best, and quickest outcomes while preparing for less than that.

[Avocadess]

One last post: Apologies for the "bully" word. Bill was NOT being a bully. It just FELT like bullying when added to the NUMEROUS people who have posted negatively -- over and over and over and over and over again -- on threads about Drake et al.

They probably think they are doing a GOOD thing. (Well, at least some of them.)

But I don't want anyone who wants to read my posts be forced to go through unrelenting negativity. There are enough distractions in my life without contending with all that. The "ignore" list helped me a LOT for quite a while -- but the moment I realized I wished to add Bill Ryan to my "ignore" list I realized it was time for me to leave.

Bill Ryan, is in my estimation, a good guy.

Much simpler to post on my own website.

I'll miss you all, but for me at this time it is for the best. I have many stresses in my life right now I have not discussed on this forum and it will make life simpler (and more enjoyable).

Have the best day EVER..!!

[mountain_jim]

One last post: Apologies for the "bully" word. Bill was NOT being a bully. It just FELT like bullying when added to the NUMEROUS people who have posted negatively -- over and over and over and over and over again -- on threads about Drake et al.

They probably think they are doing a GOOD thing. (Well, at least some of them.)

But I don't want anyone who wants to read my posts be forced to go through unrelenting negativity. There are enough distractions in my life without contending with all that. The "ignore" list helped me a LOT for quite a while -- but the moment I realize I wished to all Bill Ryan to my "ignore" list I realized it was time for me to leave.

Bill Ryan, is in my estimation, a good guy.

Much simpler to post on my own website.

But your ideas, opinions, and Energy might affect more folks positively from here.

We who collectively Intend to prove Bill was a pessimist as Events unfold will miss you here. :)

[kk4aei]

If you understand Buddha's Palm,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHJM5ZS4dmQ

you will understand the approach to seeing things as they are, to knowing what to do and what not to do. There is no debate. Truth cannot contradict truth. There is only truth.

[MacStar]

Well all this "talking" is certainly interesting and quite possibly important, but if and when the SHTF and sometime it will....your neighbours and direct physical community are going to be the ones that you'll want on your side.Panic can turn your own street into a nighmare.
So start today,make the change YOU want,get to know your neighbours,make a start at getting off "The Grid" and start helping others to do the same.We don't have time on Earth as it is to bubble wrap our homes and lives.
Lead by example and break down the barriers that communities and townships already have....do you even know your neighbors?..like really?

It's too easy to draw the curtains and cast judgments on people you don't really know(and we all do it)....as I said, in a time of rapid change,you'll be better off closing the gaps within your own neighbourhood.

I for one am not waiting to be saved...it's my dreamworld and it's up to me.

Want Peace?

Make it happen.

:)

[EnergyGardener]

We have decided to make this our last post, as well. The goal was to help network insiders working behind the scenes so they could serve as a united front when the time came to do so, which is this fall, not last month, this month, next month, or even the month after that, as stated in the public arena to keep people focused on the presenters instead of the facts. Stop giving them your energy and power. Give your attention to family and friends instead...PREPARE NOW FOR WHAT WILL BEGIN THIS FALL.

Online forum activity and direct connectivity with these public figures WITH WHOM WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONTACT have proven to be a waste of time and energy and have failed to accomplish our network's sole objective which was to help unify the freedom and disclosure movements before the global economic collapse is triggered this fall (via derivatives market). We don't have to know public figures personally, we simply need to validate what they are saying; and after investigating their claims, just the opposite has transpired, unfortunately. We have conclusively determined that a sizable fraction of the content presented as factual is blatantly false, and this has transpired on multiple occasions and continues today. How much exactly?...well, AT LEAST 20% in recent presentations, articles, etc. These public figures are promoting a false timeline and are sharing enough disinformation to discredit the entire freedom movement, placing even more lives at risk than if they had shared nothing at all. We are working behind the scenes to remedy damage resulting from these public disclosures of misinformation presented to the public as already validated and accurate, which is false enough to turn insiders against each other, as we have already observed behind the scenes. SOME of the information is accurate; however, there is sufficient disinformation presented as truth to have the effect of discrediting everything else being shared that we can no longer justify remaining publicly engaged in a public forum. This approach is simply not working, and we have even received push-back from the very people who WERE (past tense) entrusted as spokespeople for the freedom and disclosure movements...and that is VERY disheartening.

We can be contacted via the contact information previously posted, and well as offline via PMs. There will be no additional information publicly disseminated directly from those within our network (who do not already have publicly accessible web sites up and running).

kk4aei,

Thank you for your information and service!

Godspeed!

EnergyGardener

[OoLaLaFrenchGirl]

<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you).


I agree with you. This is just one time line vs another and possibly one opinion vs another.

I have several family members serving in the military (all active duty). While none of them have mentioned Drake to me (I have not asked), I have discussed our current situation with them and they have stated to me that the vast majority of our military isn't going to go along with Martial Law. I am also told that they often discuss this scenario amongst themselves.

As far as Hurricane Katrina is concerned my brother (an AF officer), told me that the military refused to disarm the American people so Blackwater Security was brought in to do it instead. In fact, the videos that I have seen posted on YouTube do indeed show Blackwater (or whatever name they may now be working under) disarming citizens. I have yet to see a video showing our actual military doing this. However, I have to admit that I haven't looked too hard for any such videos.

If I am wrong, please correct me and provide proof that I have been incorrectly informed.

[KiwiElf]

The Latest Deatra-Drake-Billwood audio 27.4 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

[Lost N Found]

We have decided to make this our last post, as well. The goal was to help network insiders working behind the scenes so they could serve as a united front when the time came to do so, which is this fall, not last month, this month, next month, or even the month after that, as stated in the public arena to keep people focused on the presenters instead of the facts. Stop giving them your energy and power. Give your attention to family and friends instead...PREPARE NOW FOR WHAT WILL BEGIN THIS FALL.

Online forum activity and direct connectivity with these public figures WITH WHOM WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONTACT have proven to be a waste of time and energy and have failed to accomplish our network's sole objective which was to help unify the freedom and disclosure movements before the global economic collapse is triggered this fall (via derivatives market). We don't have to know public figures personally, we simply need to validate what they are saying; and after investigating their claims, just the opposite has transpired, unfortunately. We have conclusively determined that a sizable fraction of the content presented as factual is blatantly false, and this has transpired on multiple occasions and continues today. How much exactly?...well, AT LEAST 20% in recent presentations, articles, etc. These public figures are promoting a false timeline and are sharing enough disinformation to discredit the entire freedom movement, placing even more lives at risk than if they had shared nothing at all. We are working behind the scenes to remedy damage resulting from these public disclosures of misinformation presented to the public as already validated and accurate, which is false enough to turn insiders against each other, as we have already observed behind the scenes. SOME of the information is accurate; however, there is sufficient disinformation presented as truth to have the effect of discrediting everything else being shared that we can no longer justify remaining publicly engaged in a public forum. This approach is simply not working, and we have even received push-back from the very people who WERE (past tense) entrusted as spokespeople for the freedom and disclosure movements...and that is VERY disheartening.

We can be contacted via the contact information previously posted, and well as offline via PMs. There will be no additional information publicly disseminated directly from those within our network (who do not already have publicly accessible web sites up and running).

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate" Now I have nothing against what you are supporting or may be trying to say to the mass folks, what I am trying to say, is there has been this mass negative/positive movement on PA over this Drake issue and it has been my experience in life that the negative movement can't find a way to get themselves out of the nasty things that have happened to them in life, yet the positive movement is always moving towards the better things in life irregardless of what may be happening around them. Now you say that you have irrefutable proof but as it has been said above in this thread, Who the hell are you.

I have watched this thread and others within PA and see so much fear and doubt, yet I do see the positive also. Seems to me that most may not have done much research on anything in the lifes experiences but will read all of what others may say and post links to look at to try and back up their thoughts. We are all one and all alone here. We only see what others may say and possibly be swayed with their, what looks like some sort of truth, own ideas of what is happening. I am disheartened by the doubts and fears and cannot exclude myself from that mentality. The old saying of "misery begits misery" comes to mind here and as long as we all continue to live with doubt and fear and in misery then that is what we will pull into ourselves. Yes, look in the mirror folks because that is really what is happening. It came about through what ever may have happened in yuur life that you were not able to deal with and it is still happening.

Get over the hump of sickness and move towards the light. How many really want this sick merry go round to stop and a better life to begin" We all have to be thinking towards the same convergence of conscious change. We do have to stop living and thinking in this matrix of illusion. Is this not what others have been saying? Unplug your minds from this sickness and let us all move towards the light.

Drake is just one of many folks that has, in a round about manner, been trying to tell us to do this very thing, and he has recieved all the negative feed back from unbelievers and those that have to analyze every aspect of what happens in their lives. The Bible and Jesue was saying the same things to folks and that is exactly what they did. Now I am not trying to bring this into religion because I happen to not believe in man made idioms like "religion" however, I do believe in the energy force of the universe and our creation, Physical" that brought this mind into "I AM" "Therefor I AM"

So to sum this up, quit trying to tell us that you know all and please donate to my cause because that is nothing more than continuing this sham on yourself and all the rest of us.

Thank you for what you do and peace be with you

[KiwiElf]

"Russia backs return to Gold Standard to solve financial crisis...

Russia has become the first major country to call for a partial restoration of the Gold Standard to uphold discipline in the world financial system...."

- See Sabrina's Post #848
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=482169#post482169

[araucaria]

xbusymom post #873


Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???

How we get there is the last thing you need to worry about. This is the part that takes care of itself :)

[Space_Ace]

The Latest Deatra-Drake-Billwood audio 27.4 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns


I read the last few dozen posts and will just keep thinking positive. Did Drake have anything new to say? Are mass arrests still scheduled for June? I am going to miss Avocadess who decided to take a break because too many of us were being negative and disagreeing. Can anyone else give us hearing impaired individuals a summary in a few sentences what Drake said? Anyone know where I can find transcripts?

[seigiarchon]

Review http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=478220#post478220 and http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44446-Window-of-opportunity-for-mass-arrests-is-May-5-to-June-5.-Drake-says-end-of-May.&p=478586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

If you want to verify information, suggest establishing a network of trustworthy individuals to review information presented by Drake Bailey et al and decide what is correct, what remains indeterminate, and what is simply wrong. That's what we do...pretty sure that's what Bailey, Wilcock, Fulford and others do, as well. Some of the content will be correct, some off the mark. We all decide for ourselves what is truth and what's not...we are always stuck with some 'grey area' content that may fall into either category, which is where a lot of this material seems to be categorized for the most part...the 'Maybe' category. We would certainly prefer that what Mr. Bailey is sharing with the public is spot on, but we are simply unable to independently validate the majority of what he is saying, so we place Mr. Bailey in the 'Maybe' category as a whole.

We cannot effectively plan our lives around 'Maybe'...so it is advisable for everyone to prepare for a rougher transition than that which is suggested by Mr. Bailey and others. We are all in agreement that the end state is peace; however, this transitory period over the next 12 months is being described by public figures as too rosy...

you joined a week ago with just 16 posts to your name and you expect everyone to believe in you?

i don't have too much confidence in drake but i would say your credibility is way way lower than drake..

you are not one of those agents out to adjust the mass consciousness of this forum are you?

you know.. say that nothing will happen this year and hope every one in here believes that nothing will happen and since our beliefs shape this reality of ours, thus nothing will really happen this year?

[araucaria]

kk4aei tells me his former handle was psci (see my page). Try this for size:


Sounds like a cousin to this one:



TRY THIS ONE ON FOR SIZE - FROM ONE OF MY 'SPOOK BUDDIES' ON THE INSIDE, WHO REMAINS IN CONTACT WITH ACTIVE PLAYERS:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/4HmbErs37NF

SCATTER THIS POST LINK TO THE FOUR WINDS - TOO MUCH ATTENTION IS SOMETHING THEY DO NOT LIKE...

Hi there - many thanks for sharing this with us on the Forum.

(Folks, I know this new member, and we'd be smart to listen to what he's reporting here.)

I read this with great interest. It rang true.

Because this is so important, I'd like to ask you: what's your personal assessment - absolutely honestly - of the accuracy of this source and his claim?

All best wishes, Bill

*********

Here's the contents of the message:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM
Subject: Fwd:
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Cc: XXXXXXXXXXXXX




Hey there

So much to do and so little time. My planned trip to FL was delayed, will have to go this week instead.

What they are using to trigger earthquakes and tsunamis is not HAARP, but it does operate on a similar principle. They differ in the method of generating the pulses, and the frequency band that the pulses are in. They still use phased multi-axis origin pulses to focus energy on a subterrarian target, vs HF phased multi-axis pulses to focus energy on an ionospheric or atmospheric target.

Today, I had an indirect contact from someone from my past, relayed through a friend. The name is a name that I remember from back then. He gave the name of the project leader, and said that he remembers me from my work on the pre-HAARP project at Camp HERO.

The timing of all of this is real suspicious, as I had never mentioned any of that research to anyone. Also, I was directly targetted with an earthquake on 02/18/2011 at 02:14.20 AM eastern time. I was awake and watching TV at the time it occured. My house shook up and down instead of sideways. The USGS rated it as a magnitude 2.3 quake, but it sure felt stronger than that here. I think I was the first to report it to the USGS. By the way things were knocked over in the house, I estimate it was a 3.5 here. The USGS seems to have removed the more detailed information that used to be online.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_hmau.html

The epicenter was recorded as being about 5.4 km deep and about 0.6km SSE of my house. My property is right above the "y" in the word Wehutty on the USGS topo map, 4th map down on this page.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_hmau_l.html

More detailed information used to be at these links, but they are now both gone.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usb0001gmm.php
and
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/se021811c.html

They have been targetting the New Madrid Fault region for about a month now. Here is one area that they have been focusing a lot of energy on since 02/14/2011, in the vicinity of Greenbrier AR.

Greenbrier AR region in last 7 days
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/34.36.-93.-91.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/34.36.-93.-91_eqs.php

Global earthquakes in last 8-30 days
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

When I had checked the last 7 days list back on 02/18/2011, the USGS site had 66 earthquakes listed for that Greenbrier AR region alone. I don't know why they removed so many of them from the 8 - 30 day list. It makes no sense, unless they are intentionally trying to fudge the long term counts of induced quakes in the New Madrid Fault region. One of the guys that came here for help with his 100 cell box lives near there.

XXXXXXXXXXX

[Ishtar]

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate"

There's a Donate button on Drake's site, Freedom Reigns too.

Plus Wolf Spirit Radio just ran a drive to raise $2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use.

[Muzz]

Review http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth&p=478220#post478220 and http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44446-Window-of-opportunity-for-mass-arrests-is-May-5-to-June-5.-Drake-says-end-of-May.&p=478586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

.

you joined a week ago with just 16 posts to your name and you expect everyone to believe in you?

i don't have too much confidence in drake but i would say your credibility is way way lower than drake..

you are not one of those agents out to adjust the mass consciousness of this forum are you?

you know.. say that nothing will happen this year and hope every one in here believes that nothing will happen and since our beliefs shape this reality of ours, thus nothing will really happen this year?

Length of membership on Avalon may not be a good way to judge someones credibilty.

I've been here a wee while and I dont believe everything I think. :)

Sometimes I wonder if comments like this are why many lurk rather than post.

[Bo Atkinson]

Donation requests are politely and inherently irrelevant and one can ignore them for any reason whatsoever.

We all channel some level of money, with income and expenditure-- Too often it inherently supports evil pupeteers.

The big rabbit hole devastation is the age long enslavement of humans. It is not about one group, or one Drake.

Instead this messenger represents a core value of country people in America. It is well worth groking the language of enduring people. (Who live on arable land).

Country-people-communities are likely the last stand for enduring the calamities planned by evil puppeteers.

If one can understand country perspectives of rabbit hole things, then one has supplemented their own endurance.

[Ishtar]

wavydome, I think you may have misunderstood the intention of my post.

I don't have any objections to people having Donate buttons on their sites, and have one myself. I was objecting to it being used as a means to discredit someone's point of view. The subtext of eyewideopen's remark was: "You're just in it for the money".

I have a Donation button on my site so that those I counsel or teach various shamanic techniques, on Skype, can give me a donation in return for those services. I don't charge a set fee, even though a consultation can take more than an hour, and sometimes people don't give anything at all because they can't afford it. However, those that can do and that helps to support those that can't.

So there's nothing wrong with having a Donate button, in my view.... although I did think that drive to raise $US 2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use (nothing to do with the Drake movement) was a bit off.

[KiwiElf]

araucaria

Post/thread about fudged USGS data here: Whole thread has interesting background info

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43887-Ring-of-Fire.......

[Bo Atkinson]

Ishtar, I support your clarification. (I work in hopes of a little money flow too). So, it is all a matter of scale, perhaps. Country stores sometimes have jars on the counter to raise money for uninsured people, devastated by fire or what have you. There was a fire to hear about, if one listened to the mp3 shows carefully. It is more the thought that counts, not the scale of face value. Not the safety net either, which Europe does have. In the states here, most of us are not insured (significantly), but we can endure our responsibilities and maintain individuality, culturally speaking. A poor person might like to donate 10 pennies, if they had nothing else to offer society-- Nothing from mind or garden or the hunt. Authentic gestures actually support spirit.

For my own part, my important country-side learning, from a favorite mentor of the wilds, was to live ambiguously-impoverished-- Seemingly disheveled but actually harmoniously arrayed with the land. Maintain the deeper comforts and never bother with the status quo of suburban indulgences-- There are numerous cost savings in re-use of discarded junk. It is the occupation of most of the unwanted humans, world wide-- Let us recall that the evil ones manipulated society to to favor their minions. Or confuse the minions into lavish expectations, (for the near term). Especially to deprive the unfavored masses. To cyclicly crush underlings-all and keep them dumb.

My perception has long been, that puppeteers are incompetents. Even this ambiguous Ra figure seems incompetent, in the biggest game. I would say that evil was a master-game-experiment. An experiment in evolvement of soul experiences. That evil as a challenge, provides the soul with opportunity for meaningful growth. I want to get into the Houman thread at some point to expand on this theme. I'm only 8 hours into the kindly provided pdf (though mp3 conversion). I love to listen into such things, while struggling with the chores of independent county life. Ambiguously off grid and also on it, as the flow may go.

Thanks Avalonians, i love the spirit here.

[araucaria]

araucaria

Post/thread about fudged USGS data here: Whole thread has interesting background info

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43887-Ring-of-Fire.......

Thanks KiwiElf, I’m not quite sure which part of that thread is relevant here, would you care to elaborate?

Here’s the point I want to make. kk4aei as pcsi got a personal recommendation last year from Bill Ryan, saying we should listen to this guy. His 20% accuracy assessment of the Drake material sounds bad, but is actually much less dismissive than Bill’s since his detailed post tells us how he (they) arrived at that conclusion.

Many of his points of disagreement are relatively minor, things like timetables etc. Drake’s version of the Plan may be severely distorted but it is the same Plan they are talking about. This is not a distraction. To say ‘not yet, wait till September’ is not the same as saying ‘nonsense!’ :)

Since there are apparently to be no more reports from Washington DC, let’s stay with kk4aei’s main point repeated in several of his posts, namely that humanity needs to get its act together. This is where Avalon is supposed to be leading the way, let’s have more of it!

Courtney Brown’s remote viewing (see video on page 646/7 of the Here and Now thread) reports evidence from 2008 of timelines with global tsunamis come 1st June 2013. We are in for a rough ride, that’s for sure, but once again, his final message is one of optimism, namely that humanity is supposed to be showing the galaxy and beyond how it is possible to recover from a position of being cut off from our higher dimensions. His methodology involves intertwining 2008 (also 1st June) with 2013. My idea is that were he to redo the experiment using 1st June 2012, by then we shall have reached a stage where the outcome would be different :)

[Ishtar]

Thanks. Nice post wavydome.

I don't want to take this off-topic but I'd like to pick up on your final paragraph. We're not actually cut off from the higher dimensions. It's just that the way has been blocked... but the way can be unblocked very quickly by a shaman and it's everyone's birthright for that to happen for them.

As one who journeys multi-dimensionally, I've found that evil doesn't exist above the Astral Planes ~ the Astral Planes being a creation of man anyway, and thus illusory (or temporary, at least). However, the war on the Astral Planes manifests 'down here' and it is that that we're having to deal with. (The War on the Astral Planes (http://ishtarsgate.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-war-on-the-astral-planes/))

If you look at the early Gnostic literature, they described the evil that exists on the Astral Planes as being orchestrated by the blind and arrogant demiurge. He is described as blind and arrogant because he thought there was no God higher than he. He couldn't have been more wrong.

But that's what we're up against here... an illusory evil god. However, by transcending those astral realms in one's consciousness, one transcends that evil.

The so-called Illuminati are in fact not very illumined or enlightened at all. They are stuck in the lower astral realms because for them to go any higher takes spiritual training of which they are incapable of receiving because they don’t have the cognitive wherewithal to even seek it. And so they remain imprisoned in their mind-sets of power obtained by fear and greed, where other people are just commodities or a means to an end.

This is why, in my view, to transcend through one's consciousness to the realms above the astral is the only way to create a real revolution. Why play them at their own game when you can create your own game?

For a true and lasting revolution leading to a golden age, we must first bring about a change in our consciousness, so that we easily reach these higher levels.

This is not 'ascensionism', by the way.. it's shamanism. Ascensionists want to transcend the Earth to go to other galaxies. Shamans are already doing that. They go to other dimensions to bring back to the Earth healing and guidance for others. They don't want a one-way ascension ticket because they love the Earth and the people here on it, and they're here to serve.

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

But change of consciousness comes first, and change of government follows on naturally from that... not the other way around.

This is the purpose of human life. It is not to have better technology ...although having good technology is not to be sniffed at! ;)

[Bo Atkinson]

snip

This is not 'ascensionism', by the way.. it's shamanism. Ascensionists want to transcend the Earth to go to other galaxies. Shamans are already doing that. They go to other dimensions to bring back to the Earth healing and guidance for others. They don't want a one-way ascension ticket because they love the Earth and the people here on it, and they're here to serve.

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

But change of consciousness comes first, and change of government follows on naturally from that... not the other way around.

This is the purpose of human life. It is not to have better technology ...although having good technology is not to be sniffed at! ;)

Ishtar, Your post makes sense, despite my thinking parallel things but inside differing language...

I even think it fits well within the OP/ clarifications. Why?

In country boy language, (which i have always respected), wordings are different, but important meanings remain. Yet i do occasionally hear common threads of thought. It occurs through metaphor of some kind.

BTW, since i have listened closely to Drakes mp3s, i do believe he has clearly inferred that fundamentalism is not his thing. He even projected that Jesus could manifest to humans of differing 'religions' as their own perception of their positive-diety perception. Technical terms aside, we can speak differently and infer the same ultimacy. This has always been my angle as well. Which continues to spur on my listening to Drake. I have heard no slurs of witch hunts or inventions of his own. Rather just common things i perceive elsewhere, all up in the air-- Like the 80%+ of positive military people, who are tired of the cabal.

Parallel to your post above, Drake models his role as a good-guy-veteran, who focuses on inspiring gun owners of America to postulate good outcomes by the strength of their own ability and morality. Not to expect a savior or the like. If it is a new-fangled psyops, then it is not helping the cabal.


PS- Drake does not really act as a predictor of events. Some less comprehensive observers think he is leading a forecast or a revolt. Rather, i expect he would call himself more of a catalyst. The beauty of this is that what is happening is already happening and his part could even include a manifestation of a decoy. It could all be part of the fog of war, unfolding. That the events which transpire will be self culminating and most importantly, be un-centralized.

[bekrah]

I want to share some exciting news. I emailed Avocadess and she has given me permission to post updates on Drake and mass arrests she has written in her blog, which can be found here (http://avocadess.com/door2). (avocasess.com/door2

Here are some recent updates she has written. I found the Obama link to be very interesting. I will continue to add new blog posts as she puts them up. I thought it would be a good way to hang on to her positive message. :)


2nd Update May 4, 2012: Obama is starting to make me very happy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/
Looks like we are indeed getting "in position" for the mass arrests and Obama is one of the good guys (who knew?!)

May 4, 2012 Update: Drake and Deatra on the radio yesterday is now on easy-to-share YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail)

One of the things I found interesting was that Drake said that we will be SURPRISED that some people we thought were "bad" were not as bad as we thought -- and others we thought were "good" will not have been good at all. He also expounded about a period of a few days to a couple of weeks where money may not be able to buy necessities during this upcoming period. For those who can afford it he suggested buying some gold [or silver] coinage. For those who cannot, storing up on necessities would be a very good idea. For those left in the lurch, people who can share are encouraged to do so.

"It is not a takeover; it is not a military coup....[It] is a...return to Sovereignty" for our nation. "People are just going to have to wait a little bit" on a lot of the details because of the nature of what is coming down with the arrests. Back to income-earning work for me -- take a listen!!


2nd May May 3, 2012 Update:

DRAKE and DEATRA speaking on Thursday's Freedom Reigns show on Wolfe Spirit Radio can now be accessed here for replay:

(http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns)
http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns


It's EXCELLENT...! Drake once again clearly speaking from his HEART...! If you can listen with your heart I think you may be as happy and excited to hear this as I am.


Deatra mentioned that a FAQ (Q&A) page is already up on Wolf Spirit Radio's website and one will soon be up on FreedomReigns.US and she asks that people read these fact sheets before calling in and answering questions in the future so as not to be repeating questions that have already been answered several times. (I was able to find the FAQ page on Wolf Spirit Radio a couple of days ago but now cannot. Perhaps it was taken down and will be put back up?)


Wolf Spirit Radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/


Freedom Reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/



And yesterday KERRY CASSIDY of PROJECT CAMELOT interviewed SCOTT KEITH, a party to the lawsuit working with NEIL KEENAN, which in Admiralty Law is basically the same as an Arrest Warrant. Kerry works to get to the bottom of things in this very enlightening interview which can be listened to here:


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-050212.mp3


Last but not least, DAVID WILCOCK did an interview with WINSTON SHROUT in which Shrout explains how liens were able to have been made against the Central Banks which amount to arrest warrants. It's a mind-bender to listen to, but I found that the second half of the 2-hour interview was easier to understand. It's a lot to get one's head around, regarding the differences between Commerce Law, Common Law, Admiralty Law, Maritime Law, etc. which most of today's practicing attorneys do not even understand -- but which is very much understood by the courts as legal and lawful and POWERFUL.


David Wilcock is going to have this interview transcribed and will make it available to the public as soon as he is able. I imagine that will take some days, but many will find the transcript easier to glean the information from than listening to the interview. It starts out sounding "impossible" to the uninitiated; and yet, if one has a wee bit of understanding of the history of the courts, it all starts to make sense. Here is a link to that interview which is now on YouTube:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share)


David Wilcock's website is www.divinecosmos.com (http://www.divinecosmos.com) and those who would like to learn more about this, explanatory documents can be purchased for a fee at wssic.com. (Those who truly cannot afford to pay for these documents may negotiate for a lower price. This is information that has been kept as "occult" -- meaning secret -- from most people for a very long time, and Mr. Shrout has made DVDs, etc. for people who wish to understand how it works.) I hope I said that right. Close enough, I hope!



Have the best day EVER!!

[Kimberley]

I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/


Posted May 3, 2012
Obama Rejoins ICC, US No Longer “Rogue” State
American War Criminals Now Subject To Laws US Enforces on Others

… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

In a surprise move, President Obama signed an executive order rejoining the International Criminal Court, an organization established originally by the United State to enforce international law and punish war criminals.

The US left the court under Bush in order to protect those responsible for kidnapping, drug running and torture.

They may now be arrested, even if American office holders or members of the military or CIA, which, oddly enough, many of those responsible for such heinous crimes are.

Almost all facing prosecution are, curiously enough, members of the Republican Party and are trying to spin a return to freedom and justice as America giving up rights. The only right sacrificed are the rights some of the 1% and key officials had to murder, rape, steal and run drugs.

They may now be arrested under the same laws that applied to Gaddafi, Saddam and other “war criminals” that America has seen fit to bring to justice.

A careful read of one of the trickiest documents I have ever seen limits arrests of US elected officials as long as they are in office. Language protecting the military is less clear if not clear at all.

In doing so, Obama even puts himself at risk but the risk is far higher to Ashcroft, Gonzales, McCain, Lieberman, Bush (all), Cheney and a list of war criminals who may number in the thousands.

As to how far the ICC is willing to go is questionable. The organization tends to arrest only those of dark skin or targets of American foreign policy.

Perhaps that will change with the Arab Spring and elections in Europe which has gotten rid of some and may eventually remove nearly all the old leaders, most of whom are potential suspects in war crimes.

When we see Interpol put the cuffs on McCain and Lieberman and “perp walk” them out of the Senate, we will know we may get America back.

[gripreaper]

I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/


Yea well, GW Bush had to suspend it as the ICC is a world court for trying global criminals, so that they could pull off 9-11 with impunity, and now that they want to take out and sacrifice the middle tiers of the power pyramid to bring down the existing system, they need their tribunal back to make the scapegoats pay while those at the very top go onto their new system unscathed, and the masses focus on mass arrests of the middle tiers and the alleged "new system" is NOT talked about, except that it is to be fair and equitable for everyone with new benevolent leaders to replace those who are now in power.

So, 7 billion people who are sound asleep and struggling for subsistence get to choose these benevolent leaders? So we replace the corporate, governmental and banking heads and usher in a new system of weights and measures with a new measure for usury? I'm all for arresting the criminals, I'm just not too keen on what is not being talked about, how the new system will really look.

[Kimberley]

I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/


Yea well, GW Bush had to suspend it as the ICC is a world court for trying global criminals, so that they could pull of 9-11 with impunity, and now that they want to take out and sacrifice the middle tiers of the power pyramid to bring down the existing system, they need their tribunal back to make the scapegoats pay while those at the very top go onto their new system unscathed, and the masses focus on mass arrests of the middle tiers and the alleged "new system" is NOT talked about, except that it is to be fair and equitable for everyone with new benevolent leaders to replace those who are now in power.

So, 7 billion people who are sound asleep and struggling for subsistence get to choose these benevolent leaders? So we replace the corporate, governmental and banking heads and usher in a new system of weights and measures with a new measure for usury? I'm all for arresting the criminals, I'm just not to keen on what is not being talked about, how the new system will really look.

Have you all listened to David Wilcocks interview with Keenan's top expert on Admiralty Law, Winston Shrout? It was posted May 1, 2012.

If you have not listened you are missing some very important information on how things work!!

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1051-g7banks


TIME TO TALK TO AN EXPERT

I needed more information in order to be comfortable with posting these liens. Keenan's top expert on Admiralty Law, Winston Shrout, agreed to take all my questions in an interview.

I did my best to let the man speak, knowing that I could not possibly keep track of everything he was saying in real time. I look forward to reading the transcript and absorbing all this new information.

The last third of the interview is where we hit a 'stride' where I felt fairly confident in being able to follow what he was telling me.

Nonetheless, we have a massive new body of information now to sort through and consider.

Here is the link to that interview. Simply download this ZIP file, open it and decide where you want your MP3s to go. It's that simple.

http://divinecosmos.com/winston2012.zip


Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

[gripreaper]

I want to share some exciting news. I emailed Avocadess and she has given me permission to post updates on Drake and mass arrests she has written in her blog, which can be found here (http://avocadess.com/door2). (avocasess.com/door2

Here are some recent updates she has written. I found the Obama link to be very interesting. I will continue to add new blog posts as she puts them up. I thought it would be a good way to hang on to her positive message. :)


2nd Update May 4, 2012: Obama is starting to make me very happy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/
Looks like we are indeed getting "in position" for the mass arrests and Obama is one of the good guys (who knew?!)

May 4, 2012 Update: Drake and Deatra on the radio yesterday is now on easy-to-share YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail)

One of the things I found interesting was that Drake said that we will be SURPRISED that some people we thought were "bad" were not as bad as we thought -- and others we thought were "good" will not have been good at all. He also expounded about a period of a few days to a couple of weeks where money may not be able to buy necessities during this upcoming period. For those who can afford it he suggested buying some gold [or silver] coinage. For those who cannot, storing up on necessities would be a very good idea. For those left in the lurch, people who can share are encouraged to do so.

"It is not a takeover; it is not a military coup....[It] is a...return to Sovereignty" for our nation. "People are just going to have to wait a little bit" on a lot of the details because of the nature of what is coming down with the arrests. Back to income-earning work for me -- take a listen!!


2nd May May 3, 2012 Update:

DRAKE and DEATRA speaking on Thursday's Freedom Reigns show on Wolfe Spirit Radio can now be accessed here for replay:

(http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns)
http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns


It's EXCELLENT...! Drake once again clearly speaking from his HEART...! If you can listen with your heart I think you may be as happy and excited to hear this as I am.


Deatra mentioned that a FAQ (Q&A) page is already up on Wolf Spirit Radio's website and one will soon be up on FreedomReigns.US and she asks that people read these fact sheets before calling in and answering questions in the future so as not to be repeating questions that have already been answered several times. (I was able to find the FAQ page on Wolf Spirit Radio a couple of days ago but now cannot. Perhaps it was taken down and will be put back up?)


Wolf Spirit Radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/


Freedom Reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/



And yesterday KERRY CASSIDY of PROJECT CAMELOT interviewed SCOTT KEITH, a party to the lawsuit working with NEIL KEENAN, which in Admiralty Law is basically the same as an Arrest Warrant. Kerry works to get to the bottom of things in this very enlightening interview which can be listened to here:


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-050212.mp3


Last but not least, DAVID WILCOCK did an interview with WINSTON SHROUT in which Shrout explains how liens were able to have been made against the Central Banks which amount to arrest warrants. It's a mind-bender to listen to, but I found that the second half of the 2-hour interview was easier to understand. It's a lot to get one's head around, regarding the differences between Commerce Law, Common Law, Admiralty Law, Maritime Law, etc. which most of today's practicing attorneys do not even understand -- but which is very much understood by the courts as legal and lawful and POWERFUL.


David Wilcock is going to have this interview transcribed and will make it available to the public as soon as he is able. I imagine that will take some days, but many will find the transcript easier to glean the information from than listening to the interview. It starts out sounding "impossible" to the uninitiated; and yet, if one has a wee bit of understanding of the history of the courts, it all starts to make sense. Here is a link to that interview which is now on YouTube:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share)


David Wilcock's website is www.divinecosmos.com (http://www.divinecosmos.com) and those who would like to learn more about this, explanatory documents can be purchased for a fee at wssic.com. (Those who truly cannot afford to pay for these documents may negotiate for a lower price. This is information that has been kept as "occult" -- meaning secret -- from most people for a very long time, and Mr. Shrout has made DVDs, etc. for people who wish to understand how it works.) I hope I said that right. Close enough, I hope!



Have the best day EVER!!


Listened to the Wilcock/Shrout interview. David is clueless about the difference between the public and private side, how they are structured, their history and Winston was kind of vague in explaining it, giving just enough information to point the listeners to his website where they can purchase his DVD's. I would suggest you You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain.

The most recent Drake on blogtalk, with Bill Brockbrader as the person asking the questions, felt very funny to me, and it's starting to gel in my mind, since he came onto the scene first through Kerry Cassidy, as a seal team 9 guy...you all remember that story, right? Now, he's the alter ego of Drake? Don't like it. Something is not adding up here, I just don't know what it is yet.

I listened to Kerry interview with Scott, one of the guys who is the plaintiff for the "PUBLIC" lawsuit filed with Keenan in New York. So now, Keenan and Scott are attempting to jump from the public side to the private side and file Commercial Liens with the help and mentoring of Winston Shrout? So, they are realizing there is no remedy in the courts and they need to go into Admiralty on the private side and get the military to act as mercenaries and enforce their liens? I doubt that the initial contract, which exchanged gold (private) for bonds (public) can be un-comingled with the contractual parties whose interests lie in both the public and private side. Keenan and Scott executed a court case in the public corporate side where remedy can only be in fiction, and now are playing "both" sides by using the commercial lien process.

Oh my. For those who have been in the freedom movement, or patriot movement, or whatever you want to call it, for DECADES, knew and followed Winston Shrout when he came onto the scenes in the 90's, tried his stuff, and VERY FEW IF ANY got remedy, and followed the commercial lien process through the courts and how those people are STILL in jail, it should be clear, even to the neophite, that YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

[edit] And yes Kimberly, I do understand Admiralty.

[Hervé]

Posted May 3, 2012
Obama Rejoins ICC, US No Longer “Rogue” State
American War Criminals Now Subject To Laws US Enforces on Others

… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

As I posted on another thread:

From good ole' Doc John Coleman in his "Committee of 300" book:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png We are close to the point where the United States will send its military Forces to settle any and all disputes brought before the United Nations. Departing Secretary General Perez de Cuellar, heavily laden with bribe money, was the most compliant U.N. leader in history in granting demands of the United States without discussion. His successor will be even more inclined to go along with whatever the U.S. government places before him. This is an important step along the road to a One World Government.

The International Court of Justice at The Hague will be used in increasing measure in the next two years to settle legal arguments of all types.

It is of course the prototype for a One World Government legal system that will supplant all others. As for central banks, essential in the planning of the New World Order, this is already very much a fait-accompli with the Bank of International Settlements dominating the scene at the close of 1991. Private banks are fast disappearing in preparation for the Big Ten banks that will control banking the world over under the guidance of BIS and the IMF. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

[Kimberley]

I admit that I do not know hardly anything about Admiralty law... I am very interested in what I have learned so far. And I have already "You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain." And have listened to only one lecture so far.

So grip if you are wanting to start a thread on Admiralty I for one would be interested in learning a lot more! Thank you!

[Dennis Leahy]

...Listened to the Wilcock/Shrout interview. David is clueless about the difference between the public and private side, how they are structured, their history and Winston was kind of vague in explaining it, giving just enough information to point the listeners to his website where they can purchase his DVD's. I would suggest you You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain.

The most recent Drake on blogtalk, with Bill Brockbrader as the person asking the questions, felt very funny to me, and it's starting to gel in my mind, since he came onto the scene first through Kerry Cassidy, as a seal team 9 guy...you all remember that story, right? Now, he's the alter ego of Drake? Don't like it. Something is not adding up here, I just don't know what it is yet.

...
I too was disenchanted by hearing Bill Brockbrader being in on the inside info and being used (at least sort of) to vet/confirm Drake. As much as I have resonated with and have been comfortable with Drake, when Brockbrader talks, I can't help feeling he was fed information. I don't think he's a deliberate liar, but can't help feeling he is controlled.

As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

I know it is dismissive, weak, and an epic fail to say this, but I am sort of clinging to the notion that the legal side of the Drake's patriot friends has more to do with showing some variant of legal plausibility to a group of military patriots that won't move forward without it. It seems that facing a modern court (especially against one of the Elite's hand-picked Federal Judges currently serving), they would simply blast a hole in any of this stuff. It will require "embedding" a patriot-friendly (or 1787-centric) judge to give the outcome the patriots are banking on. I do want them to keep going, and I am available for jury duty, if called. :~)

Dennis

[gripreaper]

As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

Dennis

I did not get involved in the overwhelming aspects of legal vs lawful because I thought it would be a fun thing to do on a sunny Saturday afternoon while all my peers were heading to the beach to look at girls in bikini's...I got involved because those peers were losing their homes and were in debt up to their eyeballs, as was I.

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

[Kimberley]

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

This is in full agreement with how I view this game we are playing!! Thanks grip!! Thanks ALL!!

Much love! :grouphug:

[DreamsInDigital]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

[xbusymom]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

the thought struck me that maybe we need to be diligent and careful not to revert back to negitivism or sleepiness or what ever you want to call it
-to not step BACKWARDS over the line and tip it back the other way again...

[DreamsInDigital]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

the thought struck me that maybe we need to be diligent and careful not to revert back to negitivism or sleepiness or what ever you want to call it
-to not step BACKWARDS over the line and tip it back the other way again...
Yes, totally! You know what they say in gambling "There never is a sure thing." I keep telling people, even though we have won the war..there is still a final battle to be fought. So we MUST continue to keep fighting and keeping the pressure on. We must remain strong, and keep waking others up and mentoring them etc.

[gripreaper]

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

This is more true that you might think. Dorothy is the soverign human trapped in the fictional world, and Oz is an acronym for "ounce" of the yellow brick road (gold) and Dorothy only has to click her heels with her (silver) slippers (the original version was silver slippers) and the TIN man is your Taxpayer Identification Number and has no heart because it is a fiction, and your "Strawman" is the alter ego which operates in the fictional world, and the cowardly lion is us and our adhesion to the fear and slavery of this system and the belief in a grand overlord in the City of Oz who has our best interests in mind, and guess who pulls back the curtain and exposes the whole scam? Toto the dog.

[xbusymom]

ok this might be off topic a little, but I am trying to figure this thing out some more...

with the Kerry show/interview with Scott... does that mean she changed her mind about Drake?

[Mozart]

Can anyone else give us hearing impaired individuals a summary in a few sentences what Drake said? Anyone know where I can find transcripts?

Space_Ace ~

Here's a transcript of the first interview that our -- Divine Cosmos Keyboard Commandos -- did:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests

I'm sorry that we don't have any transcripts that are more recent than that one. Drake has done so many radio appearances that we cannot possibly keep up, so we have to settle for whatever we can get, including Avocadess' wonderful sumary reports that have helped out.

Hey, I'm a hearing-impaired dude, also.

~Mozart

[Kimberley]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

the thought struck me that maybe we need to be diligent and careful not to revert back to negitivism or sleepiness or what ever you want to call it
-to not step BACKWARDS over the line and tip it back the other way again...
Yes, totally! You know what they say in gambling "There never is a sure thing." I keep telling people, even though we have won the war..there is still a final battle to be fought. So we MUST continue to keep fighting and keeping the pressure on.
We must remain strong, and keep waking others up and mentoring them etc.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!.....................................


I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8

Just for starters...8 represents infinity and the Symbolism of 888 is The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism, and Symbol of the Redemption, and By its composition, this number is considered as perfect.

I prefer to not use words like war or fighting... I prefer to say I am remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused in my ability to discern lower vibrating energy and higher vibrating energy. And in remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused I remain in higher vibrating energy and effect all that is.

For me it has taken years of learning and diligent practice to be and act from a place of conscious decision in each moment what I am choosing in regard to every word, thought and emotion. (and be sure to know I am not even close to being able to do this 100% of the time. However the more I am being this the easier it gets )

I have found that being a member of this forum has given me a large jump forward in my abilities to operate from the place of remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused. Because communicating with the written word keeps me VERY VERY focused.

I thank you one and all for showing up in my reality! Much love to us ALL!! :grouphug: We are ALL being our best whether we agree or not... :-)

Happy full moon and Happy World Liberation Day!


S1Thms2mXEY

[aranuk]

Kimberley 3+4=7 :p

Stan

[jp11]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

the thought struck me that maybe we need to be diligent and careful not to revert back to negitivism or sleepiness or what ever you want to call it
-to not step BACKWARDS over the line and tip it back the other way again...
Yes, totally! You know what they say in gambling "There never is a sure thing." I keep telling people, even though we have won the war..there is still a final battle to be fought. So we MUST continue to keep fighting and keeping the pressure on.
We must remain strong, and keep waking others up and mentoring them etc.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!.....................................


I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8

Just for starters...8 represents infinity and the Symbolism of 888 is The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism, and Symbol of the Redemption, and By its composition, this number is considered as perfect.

I prefer to not use words like war or fighting... I prefer to say I am remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused in my ability to discern lower vibrating energy and higher vibrating energy. And in remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused I remain in higher vibrating energy and effect all that is.

For me it has taken years of learning and diligent practice to be and act from a place of conscious decision in each moment what I am choosing in regard to every word, thought and emotion. (and be sure to know I am not even close to being able to do this 100% of the time. However the more I am being this the easier it gets )

I have found that being a member of this forum has given me a large jump forward in my abilities to operate from the place of remaining lovingly strong, powerful, and focused. Because communicating with the written word keeps me VERY VERY focused.

I thank you one and all for showing up in my reality! Much love to us ALL!! :grouphug: We are ALL being our best whether we agree or not... :-)

Happy full moon and Happy World Liberation Day!


S1Thms2mXEY

Yes, Kimberley, in my way of thinking to fight against anything is to create more of. And I do understand the sentiment...just prefer using different words to express it.

The youtube video is also being sent on to others. Thanks.

[Dennis Leahy]

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

Oh crap, more homework. Back to the rabbit hole then...

Dennis

[xbusymom]

Oh crap, more homework. Back to the rabbit hole then...

Dennis

arrrgggghhhh! and I just finished my finals, too!

[foreverfan]

Oh crap, more homework. Back to the rabbit hole then...

Dennis

arrrgggghhhh! and I just finished my finals, too!

There are no finals.... only Zeul.

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/sigourney-weaver-ghostbusters-3.jpg

[Lost N Found]

Wow! this whole Drake thread has certainly been an eye opener for alot of folks. I suspect that there are or is so much new info in here that some folks have never seen before. So Drake is an instigator of awarness is what I am seeing here. Gripreaper certainly has knowledge of the defacto legal system because as he has said, he was kind of forced into it, trying to defend those loved ones around him. I do believe that he did find out as well as a whole bunch of others that there is really no remedy for any of us as long as we play in their sand box. They, the defacto realm, made up all of these rules and regulations and they can certainly change them any way they want. Reminds me of the farmer and the chickens. Now even the Admiralty law that Gripreaper says he knows about, and I am sure he has studied that extensively, and even Winston Shrout has studied is nothing more than made up crap by the top owners of this planet. So anyone wanting to find remedy in this sand box are doing nothing more than beating their fists against the floor.

Now the whole concept of "public verses private" seems to me to be nothing more than playing in their sandbox. And this whole tipping point is nothing more than a fictitious thought of what we have been led to believe all of our lives. Now I will say this, The tipping point is a positive thought and I totally agree with it simply because it is positive. It would appear that it is the hope that we all are looking for and so dearly want to happen because this dead world of the matrix is sooooooooooooooo sick.

I would really like Grip to give us all what he knows about admiralty law. I think he can also be an instigater for us all. I for one have studied this particular form of law and know something but I am sure I don't know as much as Grip or Winston.

When, and I do say when and not if, this paradigm changes, none of this is going to matter to any of us. The true energy of our being will care not for this unreal crap. So Grip, be an instigator for us all please. Drake is doing his best to be one, so perhaps you can be another.


Thank you all, peace be with you

[bekrah]

Another update from Avocadess' blog: http://avocadess.com/door2


Today (or tonight) will be a Super Moon. That is the term for the biggest and fullest Moon of the year. Happy Cinco de Mayo and WORLD LIBERATION DAY. See short video here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOc-7KK2v2k&;feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOc-7KK2v2k&;feature=youtu.be)


JOIN MILLIONS TODAY IN VISUALIZING FREEDOM FROM THE SLAVERY OF THE DARK CABAL AND OUR PLAN FOR ULTIMATE VICTORY AS SMOOTH, SWIFT AND SWEET...!



Tomorrow, Sunday, May 6, 2012 with Drake and Deatra on Wolf Spirit Radio. To listen live in the "chat room" go here for the show that begins at 12 Noon Pacific Time and continues through 3 o'clock p.m.:


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/ (http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/)


Within probably one hour after the show has aired, you will be able to download the archive of this show (and previous shows with Drake and Deatra) here:


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns


As one friend expressed today, "Yes, there seems to be SOO much good happening right now but, of coarse, the dark will attempt to "wrap it" in fear and chaos as is their way. From today through May 20th and onto June 6th should be a momentous time for us all." I'll second that...!


Also, a Little Birdie whispered in my ear: "some HUGE breaking news...starting last night [Friday, May 4, 2012] and going until earlier today there have been over 33 'quakes' in Utah along the Wasatch Front. However, they are being reported as HUGE BOOMS and explosions that seem to emanate from extremely specific locations around the valley. Everyone here is talking/questioning what is happening including my brother who heard a series of them this morning while having coffee. THE CABAL BASES IN UTAH ARE BEING TAKEN DOWN! This was one of their last strongholds my friends. I have tears while writing this...our freedom is at hand!"


YAY...!



Have the best day EVER!!

[KiwiElf]

I posted it on the Liberation thread but is synchronistically relevant to the above post ;)

I think of it like this: your thoughts individually, are like a single spark coming off a bonfire, no one spark has a lot of power.
Combine the sparks together, focused on a single "idea"... a lot of energy!

Continue to do this even after the date time in your area.. like a pulse, a pendulum effect. :)

...you get the "idea" ;)

[Chester]

wavydome, I think you may have misunderstood the intention of my post.

I don't have any objections to people having Donate buttons on their sites, and have one myself. I was objecting to it being used as a means to discredit someone's point of view. The subtext of eyewideopen's remark was: "You're just in it for the money".

I have a Donation button on my site so that those I counsel or teach various shamanic techniques, on Skype, can give me a donation in return for those services. I don't charge a set fee, even though a consultation can take more than an hour, and sometimes people don't give anything at all because they can't afford it. However, those that can do and that helps to support those that can't.

So there's nothing wrong with having a Donate button, in my view.... although I did think that drive to raise $US 2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use (nothing to do with the Drake movement) was a bit off.

Finally a sanely, well stated view of those who accept donations - Thank You Ishtar - Very Right On

[Chester]

Thanks. Nice post wavydome.

I don't want to take this off-topic but I'd like to pick up on your final paragraph. We're not actually cut off from the higher dimensions. It's just that the way has been blocked... but the way can be unblocked very quickly by a shaman and it's everyone's birthright for that to happen for them.

As one who journeys multi-dimensionally, I've found that evil doesn't exist above the Astral Planes ~ the Astral Planes being a creation of man anyway, and thus illusory (or temporary, at least). However, the war on the Astral Planes manifests 'down here' and it is that that we're having to deal with. (The War on the Astral Planes (http://ishtarsgate.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-war-on-the-astral-planes/))

If you look at the early Gnostic literature, they described the evil that exists on the Astral Planes as being orchestrated by the blind and arrogant demiurge. He is described as blind and arrogant because he thought there was no God higher than he. He couldn't have been more wrong.

But that's what we're up against here... an illusory evil god. However, by transcending those astral realms in one's consciousness, one transcends that evil.

The so-called Illuminati are in fact not very illumined or enlightened at all. They are stuck in the lower astral realms because for them to go any higher takes spiritual training of which they are incapable of receiving because they don’t have the cognitive wherewithal to even seek it. And so they remain imprisoned in their mind-sets of power obtained by fear and greed, where other people are just commodities or a means to an end.

This is why, in my view, to transcend through one's consciousness to the realms above the astral is the only way to create a real revolution. Why play them at their own game when you can create your own game?

For a true and lasting revolution leading to a golden age, we must first bring about a change in our consciousness, so that we easily reach these higher levels.

This is not 'ascensionism', by the way.. it's shamanism. Ascensionists want to transcend the Earth to go to other galaxies. Shamans are already doing that. They go to other dimensions to bring back to the Earth healing and guidance for others. They don't want a one-way ascension ticket because they love the Earth and the people here on it, and they're here to serve.

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

But change of consciousness comes first, and change of government follows on naturally from that... not the other way around.

This is the purpose of human life. It is not to have better technology ...although having good technology is not to be sniffed at! ;)

Thank you for this super excellent post - one I have copied and placed on my top list - Thanks Ishtar

[KiwiElf]

Kimberley 3+4=7 :p

Stan

Hmmmm I get 26 from that date 8 + 8 + 2 + 8 (drop the zeros). 2 + 6 = 8

EDIT - which is still in line with JP11 / Kimberly's earlier post #927 re the number 8 (above) ;)

[Ishtar]

Kimberley 3+4=7 :p

Stan

Hmmmm I get 26 from that date 8 + 8 + 2 + 8 (drop the zeros). 2 + 6 = 8

"They say there's seven wonders in this world,
But they are out of date.
There's more than seven wonders in this world,
I just met number 8 ..."

Venus in Blue Jeans


Can't resist wading in with my take on 8 . Eight is a very significant number which represents Ishtar/Venus. (Ishtar was the Sumerian name for Venus). And there will be an important and rare Ishtar/Venus transit in a few weeks time, on 5th/6th June.

Venus is about to return after eight years to complete her second transit across the Sun.... the first one in 120 years took place eight years ago, and then the cycle is such that She won't return in that transit for another 120 years. So June 5th/6th signifies a rare event which won't occur again in any of our lifetimes.

What I find extraordinary is that in her course across the Sun, She marks out a pentagon (five sided star). She does this by creating lots and lots of tiny heart shapes and the pentagon is first realised by the five-petalled rose.

We know about the hearts, pentagons and five-petalled rose these days because we have computers that track Her progress and have marked out these shapes. However, that doesn't explain how the ancients also knew this and used the five-petalled rose (cinquefoil) to represent Venus in sacred architecture going back thousands of years ... and later on, in buildings dedicated to Mary (the Christian Venus).

Chapel dedicated to Mary at Wells Cathedral, Somerset

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/images/Esk/St_Mary%27s_sanctuary014.jpg


The number 8 is so prevalent in the iconography and mythology associated with Ishtar/Venus that there is too much of it to put here. Suffice for now that the Ishtar Gate was the eighth gate of Babylon.

Venus is also the only planet whose orbit traces out a phi (or Golden Mean) relationship with the Earth. And we have the 5 and 8 from the Fibonacci sequence, which is based on phi, and also seen in so much ancient sacred art and sculptures, often in a flower arrangement of 5 inner petals and 8 outer petals.

Venus represents Love, Order, Proportion and Harmony, as shown in this painting, The Birth of Venus by Botticelli, who used phi or the Golden Mean in his layout.

http://file4.mafengwo.net/M00/A8/05/wKgBm04TvVXQD5A1AADFdHgF4FU26.groupinfo.w600.jpeg

I have to say, though, that I don't believe Drake's proposed military coup will result in any of the above. In fact, I reckon there will be rivers of blood running in the streets, especially if he's allowed anywhere near Tim Turner and a guillotine! ;)

[KiwiElf]

Post # 44 from Sabrina & #45 from gripreaper may also be connected - Stargate alignments on these dates...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44309-World-Liberation-Day-5-May&p=482582#post482582

[modwiz]

Listened to the Wilcock/Shrout interview. David is clueless about the difference between the public and private side, how they are structured, their history and Winston was kind of vague in explaining it, giving just enough information to point the listeners to his website where they can purchase his DVD's. I would suggest you You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain.

The most recent Drake on blogtalk, with Bill Brockbrader as the person asking the questions, felt very funny to me, and it's starting to gel in my mind, since he came onto the scene first through Kerry Cassidy, as a seal team 9 guy...you all remember that story, right? Now, he's the alter ego of Drake? Don't like it. Something is not adding up here, I just don't know what it is yet.

I listened to Kerry interview with Scott, one of the guys who is the plaintiff for the "PUBLIC" lawsuit filed with Keenan in New York. So now, Keenan and Scott are attempting to jump from the public side to the private side and file Commercial Liens with the help and mentoring of Winston Shrout? So, they are realizing there is no remedy in the courts and they need to go into Admiralty on the private side and get the military to act as mercenaries and enforce their liens? I doubt that the initial contract, which exchanged gold (private) for bonds (public) can be un-comingled with the contractual parties whose interests lie in both the public and private side. Keenan and Scott executed a court case in the public corporate side where remedy can only be in fiction, and now are playing "both" sides by using the commercial lien process.

Oh my. For those who have been in the freedom movement, or patriot movement, or whatever you want to call it, for DECADES, knew and followed Winston Shrout when he came onto the scenes in the 90's, tried his stuff, and VERY FEW IF ANY got remedy, and followed the commercial lien process through the courts and how those people are STILL in jail, it should be clear, even to the neophite, that YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

[edit] And yes Kimberly, I do understand Admiralty.

I have to totally agree with you about the private and public sides not mixing. The clear, clean water of sovereignty cannot have even a few drops of the sewage that is the corporate/admiralty system. We have been programmed to think that compromising is a good thing. By accepting that premise we have been 'compromised'. Viruses trick cells into replicating for them, this tends to happen in immune 'compromised' bodies. Many of us resist viruses and have for years while friends and family alike succumb to them. Compromising is not the reasonable act it appears to be and is almost always how the pathology gains access to healthy areas. 'It' tricks the healthy part into accepting some part of 'itself' and it then gets to begin culture 'itself'. So much of our programming has come by way of 'culture'.

You have been an invaluable and reasoned resource to this discussion, Gripster. We owe you thanks for doing your part with great delicacy and purpose.

[xbusymom]

I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8



Hmmm... In my world , 3 + 4 = "7" (not 8 )

just saying...

[Dennis Leahy]

... YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

I have to totally agree with you about the private and public sides not mixing. The clear, clean water of sovereignty cannot have even a few drops of the sewage that is the corporate/admiralty system. We have been programmed to think that compromising is a good thing. By accepting that premise we have been 'compromised'.

Well put, Modwiz, and good call to underscore Gripreaper's point.

From this and a couple of other posts, I'd like to ask Grip to start a thread on law, but rather than focus on just Admiralty, or Maritime, or UCC, etc., I'd love to see a thread describing a realistic ("Common", or something new, if need be) system of law - taking into account that it would be the basis for international law. I know that in one way, when anyone mentions an overarching system of anything, it has the smell of One World BS on it. But nations do trade and citizens do cross borders, and it makes sense to me that there should be some high level law for humanity - to protect us from being controlled by elites, for example, or outrageously harsh penalties for breaking a local custom or law (like drug possession or dress codes for women, for example.)

To segue this back to Drake, in a Drake thread, the proposed thread would be something that I would hope Drake's compatriots would read.

Dennis

[xbusymom]

... YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

I have to totally agree with you about the private and public sides not mixing. The clear, clean water of sovereignty cannot have even a few drops of the sewage that is the corporate/admiralty system. We have been programmed to think that compromising is a good thing. By accepting that premise we have been 'compromised'.

Well put, Modwiz, and good call to underscore Gripreaper's point.

From this and a couple of other posts, I'd like to ask Grip to start a thread on law, but rather than focus on just Admiralty, or Maritime, or UCC, etc., I'd love to see a thread describing a realistic ("Common", or something new, if need be) system of law - taking into account that it would be the basis for international law. I know that in one way, when anyone mentions an overarching system of anything, it has the smell of One World BS on it. But nations do trade and citizens do cross borders, and it makes sense to me that there should be some high level law for humanity - to protect us from being controlled by elites, for example, or outrageously harsh penalties for breaking a local custom or law (like drug possession or dress codes for women, for example.)

To segue this back to Drake, in a Drake thread, the proposed thread would be something that I would hope Drake's compatriots would read.

Dennis

let's see... what is a good label?
spiritual law
heart law
human law
humane law
common sense laws
??

[araucaria]

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate"

There's a Donate button on Drake's site, Freedom Reigns too.

Plus Wolf Spirit Radio just ran a drive to raise $2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use.

This is pretty inappropriate imho.

Regarding kk4aei’s credentials, he is from the advanced energy disclosure community; such disclosure being dependent on prior ET disclosure. People might to listen to this fascinating skype conversation with Bill Ryan from Camelot days (Kerry was supposed to chime in but apparently got her time zones mixed up):
www.wonksmedia.com/bill_ryan__todd_hathaway.mp3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/www.wonksmedia.com/bill_ryan__todd_hathaway.mp3)

kk4aei has passed on the link to this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjJwl25hFNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjJwl25hFNg)

This video indicates critical updates posted online at pscinet2012.blogspot.com and carries ‘A message to all white hats: wait for the “green light” signal...’, ‘network with other trusted parties...’, ‘PREPARE YOUR MATERIAL FOR RELEASE’, ‘You have the information...’ ‘YOU HAVE THE PROOF!!!’ ‘You will know what to do... and when’, ‘OPERATION PHOENIX aka the “October Surprise”’, ‘ALL SECRETS WILL BE REVEALED THIS FALL’

From the above website it becomes apparent that kk4aei’s real life handle is Major Todd Hathaway (see bio at http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/toddhathaway.htm). As Bill says, he is someone we ought to listen to.

[Ishtar]

Aruacaria, the post of mine that you just quoted was not in criticism of Major Todd Hathaway, but to indicate that there was nothing wrong in having a Donate button, per se, and I go on to explain my views further in my next post.

However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me. ;)

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

[jp11]

I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8




just saying...
Hmmm... In my world , 3 + 4 = "7" (not 8 )





Actually to be correct it should be 8+8+2+8 = 26 which reduces to 8. I noticed that right away but didn't want to critize and then I saw what Stan had posted. Anyway Kimberely just mistakenly put in an extra 8 (look at the date she was using as reference) which would change the total. :)

[xbusymom]

I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8




just saying...
Hmmm... In my world , 3 + 4 = "7" (not 8 )





Actually to be correct it should be 8+8+2+8 = 26 which reduces to 8. I noticed that right away but didn't want to critize and then I saw what Stan had posted. Anyway Kimberely just mistakenly put in an extra 8 (look at the date she was using as reference) which would change the total. :)

oh, I did not see Stans' post...

anyway LOL- don't feel too bad Kimberly- I can't do MATH either!!

[readytogo]

As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

Dennis

I did not get involved in the overwhelming aspects of legal vs lawful because I thought it would be a fun thing to do on a sunny Saturday afternoon while all my peers were heading to the beach to look at girls in bikini's...I got involved because those peers were losing their homes and were in debt up to their eyeballs, as was I.

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

Could not have said it better myself. To really realize who we are and how powerful we all are is very satisfying. I have enjoyed this process and am completely at peace with the unfolding. We can all stand in our own realization of the beauty of knowing how important duality is to assisting us in this journey. I follow with interest what is manifesting on the physical plane but know that all is as it needs to be to finally see the upliftment of our world.

I am new to this forum but have followed Bill Ryan and Kerry for a very long time. They have introduced me to many important issues and people that I probably would not have found on my own. For this, I am very appreciative.

Thanks to all here for your imput.

[KiwiElf]

The Latest Deatra-Drake audio 26.5 & 12.2 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-06A-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part1.mp3

2012-05-06B-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part2.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

[StarDust]

In todays interview, Drake may take legal action against Project Camelot for what sounds like a defamation of character case. The plot thickens!

I love the fact that the Moderator/Producer doesn't put up with crap!:p

Sounds like the main beef is with one of the anti-Drake threads...On Avalon!

:popcorn::popcorn:

Based on the description...it sounds like the character inaccuracies are depicted in this "gem" of a thread:doh:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44252-Who-is-DRAKE-The-Loyal-Order-of-the-Royal-Dragon&highlight=Drake

[Alie]

In todays interview, Drake may take legal action against Project Camelot for what sounds like a defamation of character case. The plot thickens!

I love the fact that the Moderator/Producer doesn't put up with crap!:p

This is very serious for the naysayers IMHO. To me, this seems more evidence of this being the real deal and vindicates many of us who have been attempting to discuss the information with a hopeful heart.

[KiwiElf]

Which includes a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Camelot and total disbandment of the site...

[Alie]

Which includes a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Camelot and total disbandment of the site...

A few broadcasts notes from 5/6/12.

*** As I heard it, human error is possible but not intentional ****

You should listen to the first thirty minutes, folks, and get your own opinion regarding how Drake feels about certain posts on Project Camelot and/or Project Avalon and Kerry C. I take this to be quite serious. VERY SERIOUS, in fact.

Here are notes for the first 45 minutes of the broadcast, which includes Drake's updates.

(Here's the archive on wolfspirit radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

1. Liens against BIS and G7 Central Banks in Europe (see David Wilcocks site (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1051-g7banks)) --- the legalities are set and the secondary actions are coming in the near future, which is that the liens will become warrants for payments. The banks can’t pay it in gold, so they will have to go to their bonding companies, which also won't be able to pay --- so bankruptcies results. So if they refuse to perform, then that is felonious and anyone involved in that bank will go to jail. Also same with the bonding company. So these things are going to become extraordinary issues. So those involved in those banks will be systematically singled out!!!!!! which means, mass arrests and or single arrests.
2. IRS might be closed down w/in 1, 2 or 4 years and Drake thinks 4 years.
3. How are things are going? Look at the currency exchange rates and bond rates --- 4-5 countries besides Greece close to belly up.
4. Can expect bank holidays for reset. Stock up a few days --- a few weeks. Maybe silver.
5. Gun fights going to happen.
6. Introduced to Mr. Keenen and an international lawyer and a group of people involved with the Keenen lawsuit. This was for discussion so that things come out the way they need to.
7. Military is waiting for at least one thing, and it's coming fairly soon.
8. He got in touch with new militias this week.

[Lost N Found]

Aruacaria, the post of mine that you just quoted was not in criticism of Major Todd Hathaway, but to indicate that there was nothing wrong in having a Donate button, per se, and I go on to explain my views further in my next post.

However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me. ;)

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Ishtar, I thank you for this clarity. My past post was really not directed at a donate button but rather the matter of 7 billion different points of view and how there is the negative and the positive. I ask forgiveness for my rather rough approach to this. We all seem to be grasping for the straws and when someone new shows up we tend to be alittle standoffish, this is just human nature and will be that way until we get some clarity of that point of view. We may then either shun it or except it. I was simply trying to bring a point of positivity into play. We have all lived with this negative attitude for so long and question everything and it seems to me that we do not see any positive other than what may give us pleasure today. I have seen both sides for so long and all of the folks on this forum have something of value to give. It is very much heartening to read all the comments and discern some truth.

As I have said before, and this has to do with this Drake fellow, he is just another fellow human being that is pushing the envelope for all of us to perhaps wake up alittle more and discuss what we know. He is an instigator, Wilcock is an instigator, you are an instigator, we are all instigators in knowlegde and we all have to love one another for what we do. Maybe one day we will all see the same little kearnal of truth, The tipping point, The conscious change that we all desire and need.

Thank you so much again. Peace be with you

[KiwiElf]

...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me. ;)

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

[modwiz]

I hope this lawsuit thing is not true. A law suit is not a common law procedure but legal, snake pit tactic. The key word is legal. There is lawful and legal. Legal is the crap legalists make up for us and I want no part of it. It is the kind of system we want to break, not make use of.

IRS for 4 more years? Their existence is unlawful. Without BAR attorneys to support the legal lies that have us paying it would seem to me that we would just stop paying these taxes. All taxes go to the Fed. WTF?

This last batch of info is saying some things completely counter to where we are supposed to be headed, IMO.

Does anybody follow what I am saying here?

[bekrah]

...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me. ;)

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

That was posted on my profile as well. He was the one saying things wouldn't start happening till fall right?

[Alie]

Modwiz
Regarding the IRS info --- He did not suggest that it was to be operational for collecting taxes .... rather to follow paper trails of the elite. He specifically said it that way (at least what I heard).

Regarding lawsuit ---- I see your point, but ... I took this to be regarding about slander not only about him (I did not read the Dragon posts in full) but slander also against the White Dragon society and that he was unable to counter the posts with his own.

[KiwiElf]

...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me. ;)

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

That was posted on my profile as well. He was the one saying things wouldn't start happening till fall right?

Yes - there are several posts on this thread

[Ishtar]

Modwiz
Regarding lawsuit ---- I see your point, but ... I took this to be regarding about slander not only about him (I did not read the Dragon posts) but slander also against the White Dragon society and that he was unable to counter the posts with his own.

I've just read through that thread again (Drake ~ the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44252-Who-is-DRAKE-The-Loyal-Order-of-the-Royal-Dragon)) and it is as I remembered it, largely highly complimentary to Drake. The only sour note comes from me complaining that he didn't tell the truth about being a Dragon or associated with the White Dragon group on the previous show. He was asked directly and he said No. I've also given the reference to where it can be heard on the tape. I think that is the only thing he may be feeling disgruntled about ... because otherwise it's pretty well understood by everyone in that thread that being in a Dragon group is not necessariy a bad thing, and is most likely a good thing. There was little negativity about that.

I think that thread was one of the most interesting threads we've had since I've been on Avalon. I think Vivek did a fantastic job of it and backed up all his research. There is nothing factually incorrect in that thread, about his character or his past, and so if Drake's attacks Avalon over it, it will be because he didn't like getting caught out over saying something that wasn't strictly true. But if he has any legal guys advising him, I'm sure they'll tell him to back off... with that thread anyway.

Eyewideopen ~ peace and love to you too! :biggrin: We're all on the same side really ... just got different ideas about how to get there.

[KiwiElf]

Whooooo let's not jump the gun - I'm only up to 1:07 on the first audio and nothing has specifically been mentioned about Avalon, Bill or individual posts on Avalon. It is being aimed at Camelot & specifically unmentioned individual(s) post(s) on Camelot, not necessarily just Kerry C.

[Alie]

Whooooo let's not jump the gun - I'm only up to 1:07 on the first audio and nothing has specifically been mentioned about Avalon, Bill or individual posts on Avalon. It is being aimed at Camelot & specifically an unmentioned individual's post(s) on Camelot, not necessarily Kerry C.

I am certainly NOT in favor of getting anyone riled up (promise, KiwiElf :)). However, it seemed to me Deatra (?) and/or Drake were a little unsure of the difference of these communities PA & PC (as I certainly was at first, not knowing that they were two separate entities). I'm going to check the very first few minutes. Anyway, it is something to be aware of because whatever it's about, it is something he is taking very seriously.

[StarDust]

Whooooo let's not jump the gun - I'm only up to 1:07 on the first audio and nothing has specifically been mentioned about Avalon, Bill or individual posts on Avalon. It is being aimed at Camelot & specifically an unmentioned individual's post(s) on Camelot, not necessarily Kerry C.

It's actually all contained within the first 20+ minutes of "Part 1". You must be listening to part 2 first (top of the list). They did it that way so Drake could "clear the air". They mention "Project Camelot, Avalon & Kerry Cassidy" specifically. He even mentions that David Wilcock warned Drake about Camelot before he got involved. Drake "quotes" Wilcock with a fairly colorful metaphor.

Part one…starts here: "Drake is NOT god, NOT the messiah…" http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/Freedom_Reigns/2012-05-06A-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part1.mp3

[StarDust]

Drake is seeking legal counsel on how to proceed. He may intend on taking legal action against the site owners, administrators as well as the people (i.e. Vivek) who posted, or added to, the incorrect information. This situation may be quelled based on his opportunity to post a response (Mods, take note!!!) Once again, WORDS MATTER!!!

[StarDust]

[QUOTE] Deatra (?) and/or Drake were a little unsure of the difference of these communities PA & PC (as I certainly was at first, not knowing that they were two separate entities).

The confusion is easy to understand given that there was a direct link to PA from the PC site on the front page of the old PC website. Not to mention that Bill and Kerry are somewhat synonymous as a team.

[KiwiElf]

To Alie & Stardust:
Understood... I can see the confusion now - thanks for clarifying ;)

[Unified Serenity]

I think this is hysterical that Drake is threatening to sue people over information freely available by him online and people asking for evidence to back up his story which basically comes down to trust me and David vetted me. This is nothing but a classic intimidation technique to shut up anyone who dares to doubt, question, or point out the problems with Drake's story as they see them.

I did not see anyone on Avalon slander or libel Drake. I saw people ask questions, point out facts about the weaknesses in his story, and the fact that he is no more a whistle blower than Bill Woods was. All of this stuff has been talked about for years, and many of us just don't believe his story. Let's see if Bill squashes the chatter about Drake.

[Ishtar]

I'm pretty sure that this is what he's really upset about:

http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/4/27/kerry-cassidy-on-drake-and-the-plan.html

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I think this is hysterical that Drake is threatening to sue people over information freely available by him online and people asking for evidence to back up his story which basically comes down to trust me and David vetted me. This is nothing but a classic intimidation technique to shut up anyone who dares to doubt, question, or point out the problems with Drake's story as they see them.

I did not see anyone on Avalon slander or libel Drake. I saw people ask questions, point out facts about the weaknesses in his story, and the fact that he is no more a whistle blower than Bill Woods was. All of this stuff has been talked about for years, and many of us just don't believe his story. Let's see if Bill squashes the chatter about Drake.

I agree with every word of that.

[aranuk]

Drake is referring to Avalon posts. Vivek in particular I think.

Stan

[KiwiElf]

I think this is hysterical that Drake is threatening to sue people over information freely available by him online and people asking for evidence to back up his story which basically comes down to trust me and David vetted me. This is nothing but a classic intimidation technique to shut up anyone who dares to doubt, question, or point out the problems with Drake's story as they see them.

I did not see anyone on Avalon slander or libel Drake. I saw people ask questions, point out facts about the weaknesses in his story, and the fact that he is no more a whistle blower than Bill Woods was. All of this stuff has been talked about for years, and many of us just don't believe his story. Let's see if Bill squashes the chatter about Drake.

LOL well I think that would be a bit of a "double standard", wouldn't it? Why would he? ;)

[StarDust]

Drake is referring to Avalon posts. Vivek in particular I think.

Stan

Yes Stan. You are spot on!

[aranuk]

Drake is referring to Avalon posts. Vivek in particular I think.

Stan

Yes Stan. You are spot on!

I'm still listening to Drake


Stan

[Unified Serenity]

I would like to hear what on earth Vivek posted that was libel. Vivek looked into Drake's past and got a bread crumb trail. Is Drake trying to say he is not the person Vivek tracked down in his excellent fact finding expedition? I saw the same crumbs and think Vivek did an excellent job. I think Drake is trying to intimidate.

[KiwiElf]

Unified Serenity, with all respect, instead of perpetuating myth & heresay, why not just LISTEN to the audio? ;)

[StarDust]

I would like to hear what on earth Vivek posted that was libel. Vivek looked into Drake's past and got a bread crumb trail. Is Drake trying to say he is not the person Vivek tracked down in his excellent fact finding expedition? I saw the same crumbs and think Vivek did an excellent job. I think Drake is trying to intimidate.

If the site admin will have the good sense to let Drake "join" Avalon to post his rebuttal, we'll find out.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[StarDust]

Unified Serenity, with all respect, instead of perpetuating myth & heresay, why not just LISTEN to the audio? ;)

Precisely!

[Hervé]

Yep!


Me definitely think that if Charles/Atticus/Stephen had copyrighted/patented/trademarked his recipe for untasteable/untestable pudding... he wooda be' in clover by now!

[Unified Serenity]

I would love to see Drake on Avalon and have a chance to communicate without a radio host playing go between. I think Drake would be best able to present his case here and talk over the issues some have raised. Of course, that would mean being willing to truly answer questions and not dodge issues.

[aranuk]

Absolutely Stardust! Forget about my brain, I listened to Drake tonight and my heart is warmer now. My heart is what I have followed all my life, and I will not deny it of value now or at any other time. My heart tells me that Drake is true and so is Deatra. These people here who tell us we are gullible and all that have that right I admit, but they do not influence me one bit. The cabal/illuminati/ TPTB are proven to be murderers, paedophiles, satanists, war mongerers, and genocidal maniacs, so where are the arguments here? There are none. Drake and Deatra are fine people. Don't you naysayers have a heart? I really don't think you have. You have a brain and some of you think you are much brainier than you are. Start listening to your heart because your heart isn't brainwashed, it's that simple. Some people may ask, "how can I avoid being brainwashed?"you can't, it is that simple. If you listen to your heart it is always your biggest and best guide. Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.


Stan

[StarDust]

I certainly hope Drake is given the chance to respond and set the record straight.

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Absolutely Stardust! Forget about my brain, I listened to Drake tonight and my heart is warmer now. My heart is what I have followed all my life, and I will not deny it of value now or at any other time. My heart tells me that Drake is true and so is Deatra. These people here who tell us we are gullible and all that have that right I admit, but they do not influence me one bit. The cabal/illuminati/ TPTB are proven to be murderers, paedophiles, satanists, war mongerers, and genocidal maniacs, so where are the arguments here? There are none. Drake and Deatra are fine people. Don't you naysayers have a heart? I really don't think you have. You have a brain and some of you think you are much brainier than you are. Start listening to your heart because your heart isn't brainwashed, it's that simple. Some people may ask, "how can I avoid being brainwashed?"you can't, it is that simple. If you listen to your heart it is always your biggest and best guide. Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.


Stan

Well stated. There is universal truth in your words about following one's heart.

[aranuk]

Thank you Sir.


Stan

[Unified Serenity]

Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

Stan

Stan,

You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

Nice desperate move.

[ThePythonicCow]

Name calling ...
Yeah - no name calling, aranuk - such posts are subject to deletion, depending on the decision of the mods.

[OoLaLaFrenchGirl]

:hug:Beautifully stated, sir! I too will listen to my heart on this one. My instincts have rarely led me astray and if I happen to be wrong, I will have no problem what-so-ever admitting it. We are playing nothing but a waiting game as it is, so why not hold onto a little bit of hope for humanity while we await? Many Blessings to you and yours.

Sorry, I am new and still getting used to this format. This is in reply to 'Stan'.

"I listened to Drake tonight and my heart is warmer now. My heart is what I have followed all my life, and I will not deny it of value now or at any other time. My heart tells me that Drake is true and so is Deatra. These people here who tell us we are gullible and all that have that right I admit, but they do not influence me one bit. The cabal/illuminati/ TPTB are proven to be murderers, paedophiles, satanists, war mongerers, and genocidal maniacs, so where are the arguments here? There are none. Drake and Deatra are fine people. Don't you naysayers have a heart? I really don't think you have. You have a brain and some of you think you are much brainier than you are. Start listening to your heart because your heart isn't brainwashed, it's that simple. Some people may ask, "how can I avoid being brainwashed?"you can't, it is that simple. If you listen to your heart it is always your biggest and best guide."

[NancyV]

So....let me get this straight...Drake is involved in a planned take down of the government and it's unfair systems within a month or two at the most. With these HUGE changes and as busy as he is he still has time to start a lawsuit against Kerry or anyone else who doesn't believe him or has said something about him that he didn't like???? This is the final nail in the coffin as far as him having ANY believability whatsoever for me!!

He's a proponent of taking DOWN the system yet he will USE that system of NONjustice to hassle someone who has only stated their truths! Even if he doesn't follow through with a lawsuit, just the THREAT of it shows what kind of person he is. What a CROCK!!! My ambivalence towards Drake has now turned towards distaste. I don't respond well to any kind of intimidation and I would hope that others weren't so gleeful at the thought of Drake suing ANYONE who has spoken against him. Obviously he's not a believer in free speech other than for himself. It's absolutely disgusting!

[aranuk]

Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

Stan

Stan,

You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

Nice desperate move.

I follow my heart dear. If I would let it rip upon you or Vivek I would most probably be expelled from here. It is quite clear that you and him have backing from Bill Ryan and Paul. I rest my case. I cannot speak freely here as you know. That is the liberty you take here with descent people here. If we had a level playing field here I would take you guys on in a serious debate, however my hands are tied behind my back and you ****ing people know it.

Stan

[Alie]

Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

Stan

Stan,

You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

Nice desperate move.

I follow my heart dear. If I would let it rip upon you or Vivek I would most probably be expelled from here. It is quite clear that you and him have backing from Bill Ryan and Paul. I rest my case. I cannot speak freely here as you know. That is the liberty you take here with descent people here. If we had a level playing field here I would take you guys on in a serious debate, however my hands are tied behind my back and you ****ing people know it.

Stan

Stan as you know you are heard by the people who are "hearing". Nothing is fair anywhere --- we use this venue to speak the truth (as we feel it) the best we can. She/they are like static, but we are still able to tune right in to your "voice". It's ok. We'll watch the unfolding together.

Edit ****
I do not presume to know the TRUTH. I do not KNOW anything about these topics we discuss. That's because I am not an insider with inside information. I am a student. I simply study, listen, read and assimilate information to get some sense of truth for me. I share what seems to be true with forum members. I resonate with Stan and don't resonate with others. Same as if I met you at a party, which is what PA was set up to be. I'd be talking on a couch with those whose conversations I enjoyed.

[Unified Serenity]

Wow, Paul, this is the first time I have ever even concidered being on the same side as you and I tend to go toe to toe with each other. So, I am very surprised to hear you are backing me. Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.

Seriously, are you even hearing yourself Stan? Yes, let's change the debate, put the spotlight on those asking questions and the validity of the site. One question left Stan, and that is "Are you trying to commit suicide by Mod?"

edit.....

Ok, that is never true with me, there are always more questions. Those of you who steadfastly stand behind your "Heart", I am wondering if any of you have ever regretted anything you decided. Have you gotten a divorce? Have you ever said something in anger you regretted all because you heart spoke before your head did?

I would love nothing more than to spread ooey gooey stories that make people "resonate" in bliss and joy, but I won't lie, and I won't shut off my mind. Did you guys ever watch the interview with the guy who had the green background? I bet you didn't because it was so spot on, that anyone who could back Drake after it must be out of their minds.

[xbusymom]

Just noticing some things...

… and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?


Drake:
The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.

SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

[Unified Serenity]

Just noticing some things...

… and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?


Drake:
The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.

SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.

[Alie]

Just noticing some things...

… and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?


Drake:
The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.

SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

IMHO
We are physical, not ethereal ... yet. So, as we've been discussing lately about TPTB on other threads --- the despicable PHYSICAL things they do to innocent people (humanity) require physical to physical action, as well as all the other realms available to rid the planet of evil. He is representing the boots on the ground part of the process ... we've heard about the ET/ED side of it which I have no access to so my thoughts are hopefully adding strength to those who plan to do the physical removal.

[xbusymom]

Just noticing some things...

… and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?


Drake:
The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.

SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.

interesting that you bring up the balancing neg/pos... I had posted a note RE: this several weeks back on another thread... as the level of negative grows- so does the positive [to keep the sides balanced]- and vice-versa.

[aranuk]

Bill is English not Australian. Surely your great brain dear knows that. That dear is as Sherlock Holmes said is elementary.


Stan

[OoLaLaFrenchGirl]

Wow, Paul, this is the first time I have ever even concidered being on the same side as you and I tend to go toe to toe with each other. So, I am very surprised to hear you are backing me. Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.

Seriously, are you even hearing yourself Stan? Yes, let's change the debate, put the spotlight on those asking questions and the validity of the site. One question left Stan, and that is "Are you trying to commit suicide by Mod?"

edit.....

Ok, that is never true with me, there are always more questions. Those of you who steadfastly stand behind your "Heart", I am wondering if any of you have ever regretted anything you decided. Have you gotten a divorce? Have you ever said something in anger you regretted all because you heart spoke before your head did?

I would love nothing more than to spread ooey gooey stories that make people "resonate" in bliss and joy, but I won't lie, and I won't shut off my mind. Did you guys ever watch the interview with the guy who had the green background? I bet you didn't because it was so spot on, that anyone who could back Drake after it must be out of their minds.

Yes, I have, at times regretted things in my past. I am only human much like everyone else. However, I am also willing to admit when I am wrong. To be honst, I have regretted decisions that I have made with my brain. Rarely have I ever regretted following my instincts or my heart.

Am I really out of my mind because I choose to believe in something that you don't? Is it so bad I have hope that there may be a real solution to the problems that we face? I refuse to believe that everyone in the top levels of government are evil, corrupt cowards. There has to be some good people involved who want the best for humanity. If this makes me 'insane' in someone elses opinion, so be it. I have young children who deserve better than a lie down and die mentality out of their mother. I don't live my life in order to satisfy strangers, I live my life to satisfy myself and the people whom I love. I see no reason to judge anyone based upon their opinion of this plan. You are free to see things as you wish, it's not my problem either way.

[Unified Serenity]

Bill is English not Australian. Surely your great brain dear knows that. That dear is as Sherlock Holmes said is elementary.


Stan


LOL, he makes a much better aussie and that's how I always see him. Bill, can't be blamed for being born in England can he? Oh, and you are so very snarky tonight Stan. Please do watch that negative karma building up via such thoughts.

[modwiz]

I want to thank Alie, Stardust and Kiwielf for bringing some clarity here. I think we could cook an egg on our Stan. :p

I spoke my truth to my reaction to hearing certain things. Lots of truth will get us places we want to get to. It will be messy at first. I, for one, can allow for mis-steps and hasty words. We all get hot and say sh!t. I don't play gotcha, with anyone. Recanting, restating do-overs all works for me as long as the dialogue stays open and we get clear. Even if Drake threatened a lawsuit in pique there is a lesson for most of us. Old habits die hard and this will be our biggest collective stumbling block as we create new ways. We all know we don't like what we have, but how many of us have invented the replacement yet. I mean this in the deepest way possible also. Programming. When we are tired or emotionally involved we tend to thrash and go on auto-pilot a bit. My sense is that Drake has been burning the candles at both ends with this project and when we get tired our skin gets thin. The outrageous slings and arrows start to get through and sting. Outbursts become possible.

When we go on auto-pilot we tend to fall into a behavioral patterns that rely largely on rote and instinct. On programming. Many of us are quite unaware of the many layers to our being and different places we source ourselves from. What lies ahead will be a crash course in dumping old programming and starting to live in the now. The gotcha! game many of us play comes from a sense of powerlessness. When someone trips and comes from a place of compromised power/integrity we pounce because their loss of power is our gain, even if only temporarily. Relationships are the best arena to observe this behavior. Being in the 'dog house' is the phrase used.

There are going to be mistakes in a new world with new rules, many which have not even been considered or created yet. The emotional state and age of most people is going to make things very dysfunctional for awhile. It is my hope that when the many weights and injustices are relieved the endless excuses for not maturing emotionally and moving forward will end. Hopefully peer pressure/assistance will quicken the very essential behavioral shift that is part and parcel of the paradigm shift. There can be no new Earth with the same old broken people.

I am not making excuses for Drake. I will allow him to stumble though. As long as he picks himself up when he does. We need to be each others keeper. Not critic and sh!t flinger.

[KiwiElf]

Deatra-Drake Transcript: This is only the first 10-11 minutes. I have removed "ums" and "ahh's" for clarity. (Still no substitute for listening yourselves ;))

Deatra: Please everybody, keep in mind and remember, Drake is not God, he is not the Messiah, he is simply bringing a message to you... of information that he has to help regain our great land. So, you know, emails such as, "I'm going on a cruise, is it safe to go? Oh my God, I have Drake's blessing,.. I can go now." Come on people, this is a little ridiculous, don't you think?

Anyways Drake, we wanna clear up a bunch of stuff that went on, I guess,.. there was an interview that was done, or at least a blog written, over at, ahhh what is it; Divine Cosmos, no, what's that site, I don't even know that site because I don't go.

Drake: Project Camelot?

Deatra: Yes, Project Camelot, and I wanna let you go ahead and address those. I do know that those people love to cause issues,.. and it's not the greatest thing. You're not the only one who they have demonised, victimised, caused trouble for and so on and so forth, and I wanna give you the chance to address that.

Drake: OK, well if anybody hasn't read it, they may wanna go read it. Some of the information's correct. Information wise, they've made a couple of glaring errors. One of the things I see that they're really adept at doing is creating controversy by taking a snip out of somebody's overall conversation and saying, "See, I told ya he was nasty," sorta thing. Clearly childish in some ways, but it put an interesting political spin on it. Now, I was a member of a group of veterans called, The Vietnam Brotherhood, and they're trying to say that, or state, actually they do state, in that post, that I was the founder of it, which I am not.

Now, what they don't know is that these people are very sensitive about that, and I'll be surprised if they don't file in conjunction with me, the law suit that is probably gonna come at ya.

The second part of this is, where they accuse me of being an "Illuminati" and I really take issue with that because I am not a baby-torturing thinga-ma-bob that most of the Illuminati are. They accuse me of this because I, at one time I was affiliated with a group known as Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon.

Now anybody that's done any homework listening to anything and paid any attention at all has heard of the White Dragon Society, they have heard of the "families". That's what this pertains to. It does not have diddely squat to do with the Illuminati! The Illuminati won't go near those people for one fact: their orders from the "higher ups" in those groups is to dismember them on sight. And I guarantee you, I know a few of these people and they are very much capable of doing just exactly that.

Now, I asked to post on the website, as a response to what they've posted. I had to register so that I could post. It takes three days to a week or so or whenever they feel like it, to authorise my capability to post on that website. Ok, well the problem with that is that, when you come out with intentionally misleading and blatantly false,.. knowingly false information, and you broadcast it on a website, that covers areas that go across state lines, it's not a local defamation kick,... ughhhh traffic ticket deal; it goes to Federal Court.

Within the realms of the Federal Government, which I don't like very much anyway, but might serve a purpose, there are things called "terrorism" that I don't think you wanna deal with, in terms of that website, and some of the things that have been posted, some of the things that have been done there, recently, under its present management and control, are such that both cans of worms are open. Both the litigation and to the summary removal of the website for "activities that are opposite the betterment or continuation or continuity of government". So, you may be in a lot more trouble than you think.

I have not considered yet, whether I am going to take these actions. I am considering "how" and to what extent I want to take it. The individuals who run the website, the individuals who posted, all the people who can allow access to the website, will all be held responsible in the case that I decide to litigate this. I'm presently seeking the advice and counsel of some legalists who are some of the finest in the World, and we'll see what their recommendation is.

One of the things that I will not tolerate is that type of fun and games. I do not propose to retaliate any further than than this if it's made available, and that is ... that I'm allowed to post corrections to that website on that specific proposition and without the "I think so and maybe we'll think about allowing you to post" part of it ... as the admin that I talked to via email express and a permanent attachment to that particular post of my counter proposal to what was posted.

Now, I have talked to a couple of people and they're having a little trouble correlating Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon with the Dragon Family. This goes to a secret society royal bloodline that are the ones who kept the collateral accounts safe. Now that's pretty awesome if you think about it. This is what we're fighting against, the present economic system, about these people stealing, leveraging borrowing from these collateral accounts for years. Not only do they owe that, they also owe a per annum fee for portions of the allowed usage of those collateral accounts. At this point, they cannot pay.

Well, the problem with the combination of that is, the Illuminati would love to get their scanners on those accounts, simply so they can continue to suppress the people, and the efforts of the website tend to show that these people seem to like that idea, or they would not denigrate someone without doing research. Now the research is simple. Anybody who's got a computer can look up "The Vietnam Brotherhood" and see that I'm not the owner, they don't got one. And I was not the founder,.. I joined long after they started.

Number two. Anybody with a computer, and you know, you gotta be able to type a lil bit ... you know, L, O, R, D ... when you put that into the computer: Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon, look at the Royal Dragon Society and then you'll understand, because it is a "loyalty oath" to the morality involved in the lives lead by the people who were responsible, not only "to" but also "for" other people. For their betterment to make sure their lives were not... too unbearable, and this was done in a variety of ways, and has been for thousands of years.

So, you have denigrated the Dragon Families and the people associated with them in this process.

I'll be in touch with them in the next coupla days to find out what they wanna do about it. Now whether they take this personally or decide to do this publicly, I don't know yet. If it's a public decision, then this will probably go through the courts. If it's a private decision, you might as well pack your bags and leave town, and that's basically where this sits at this point.

I'm not personally going to address this other than officially from now on. By officially, that's either through the courts or attorney's, attachments etc, and things of this nature.
10:40

[xbusymom]

Oh, pleazzzzze tell me I heard wrong......

(still listening to the tapes...)

whoa! did I hear that correctly?? did Dave just do to people *”the next person sending me a link to bills' stuff – I am gonna boot ya”* (at 1:47 in part one) exactly what he was complaining about Kerry doing to him on her show the other night?

*talk about instant karma...

[foreverfan]

I'm worried because Bill Wood just said that Obama is not a bad guy. WTF? Alex Jones, where are you on that one. :ohwell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlDVRQIgAVw

[turiya]

The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
Where is there not sacred ground? Where is there a place or space that is not of god?
TPTB... perhaps they, too, are playing a divine role.... Without their presence, how could humanity wake itself up?


Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
I don't see that it could be anything else but divine. God is playing both sides of the coin, both a Creator & a Destroyer.
Being prosperous is in the eye of the beholder.
A rich man living in his castle fears that someday that it may somehow be lost. One may horde what he thinks is a golden treasure. The act of hording is a state that is needed to be experienced. One will find out where that path will lead.
You can see this for yourself... at any level of living life. The more you gather gold or silver coins, the more will come the notion of how to keep them safe & secured from those that may come to steal them away from you.

TPTB are there so humanity can learn a lesson & to grow in awareness. TPTB, perhaps, they need to truly understand greed, the thirst for power. It can only be really understood through the existential experience within this 3D physical plane.
Those that have been cheated of their riches, were willing participants in being cheated. The emotional rollie coaster ride is consequence & the lesson to be learned through the experience.
The real treasure is not found without, but within.




Just noticing some things...

… and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?


Drake:
The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.

SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.

interesting that you bring up the balancing neg/pos... I had posted a note RE: this several weeks back on another thread... as the level of negative grows- so does the positive [to keep the sides balanced]- and vice-versa.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.

I'm a Brit with a South African hat and Canadian Parents, who was raised in West Africa. But when I was in Australia, even some of the Aussies thought I was an Aussie.

:)

Re Drake, Nancy's post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793&p=483207#post483207) summed up the situation perfectly:





So....let me get this straight...Drake is involved in a planned take down of the government and its unfair systems within a month or two at the most. With these HUGE changes and as busy as he is he still has time to start a lawsuit against Kerry or anyone else who doesn't believe him or has said something about him that he didn't like???? This is the final nail in the coffin as far as him having ANY believability whatsoever for me!!

He's a proponent of taking DOWN the system yet he will USE that system of NONjustice to hassle someone who has only stated their truths! Even if he doesn't follow through with a lawsuit, just the THREAT of it shows what kind of person he is. What a CROCK!!! My ambivalence towards Drake has now turned towards distaste. I don't respond well to any kind of intimidation and I would hope that others weren't so gleeful at the thought of Drake suing ANYONE who has spoken against him. Obviously he's not a believer in free speech other than for himself. It's absolutely disgusting!

The entire affair is a pantomime. I'm amazed that this is not obvious to everyone.