Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Whenever you begin to hear rumors that you should keep an eye on the right hand, start looking for the left.

[DreamsInDigital]

Well you know what they say, "Start a fire at one end of town,... rob the bank at the other."

[Journeyon]

Whenever you begin to hear rumors that you should keep an eye on the right hand, start looking for the left.

Thank you for this reminder! Very wise advice.

[Chester]

I have a question for Avocadess or anyone else seriously following this whole patrioit / freedom movement et al.

[MOD EDIT] Or the ones that just flat out think the world owe them everything and they don't have to work for it. There seems to be a lot of those out here in Southern California, and else where obviously.

These are the kind of people that make me seriously raise an eyebrow when the concept of "community spirit" is brought up, and the cities and communities out there that are so over run with people that would more likely steal something than actually work for it. And, the ones where no body talks to anyone for various reasons that obviously wont change over night. "Community Spirit" sometimes to me is one of those things that "looks good on paper" and coming out of peoples mouths as a really good idea, but fails flat in it's application.

So, how is Drake and his cohorts planning on handling those?



And, everyone (present company excluded of course) keeps leaving out the ET/EDs which have already been interfering on a massive scale, though covert it has actually been happening. Yet, this "wild card" is almost completely ignored up one side and down the others. Just because some can't see or don't know first hand, doesn't mean it's not happening.

Well DreamsinDigital, you are quick to point out what is supposedly missing from this debate, but where is your proof or personal experience about this "massive scale ET interference" that you seem so assured is actually being carried out??

And if you have none, then what you are really offering us is nothing but heresay, under the guise of truth.

Here ya go - weapons failed to go off... 2 days ago

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/bellagio-employees-foil-attempted-casino-robbery-174807211.html

Casino employees had time to grab one of the thieves, 24-year-old Michael Quinn Belton, after his pepper spray repeatedly malfunctioned.

"The guy kept spraying and the thing wouldn't work," said Richard Hauck, who was playing at the table at the time of the attempted robbery. "The spray kept falling on the table."

[SilentFeathers]

Whenever you begin to hear rumors that you should keep an eye on the right hand, start looking for the left.

So very true, especially in this day and age of mass manipulation, lies, and deception.

I tried to listen to Drakes most recent show (May 23rd) and when the Lady Dragon came on and started talking I busted out laughing so hard that my wife actually got angry with me because she couldn't hear what was being said over my uncontrollable outburst! It wasn't much farther in to the show that both me and my wife couldn't take any more of it and shut it off.

I then went to Lady Dragon's website to peek at it and it's brand new and nothing but a bunch of links and basically a spin of another "Drake & Freedom Reigns" website, I'm not a webmaster computer geek but I could of created that site myself in a rather short period of time. It's looks like a marketing site that's marketing Drake and what he stands for so to speak and is loaded with links that relate to, well.....the alternative mind set, Drakes fans, and related information about anything that they could find to dovetail in to what the "Drake show" is all about.

Other than the common sense advice by Drake and a few others to be nice to your neighbors, store some extra food, drink clean water, and other like "smart" and "common sense" ideas, etc., the rest of this whole crafty Drake drama is completely ridiculous and is becoming like a new series out of Hollywood now, with new special guests coming on the scene to spice up fading ratings and to try keep the fan based audience from thinning even more.

Those that are truly paying attention not to Drake, but to legislation being passed and all the draconian laws now taking effect, and many more on the table not passed yet, drones being allowed in the US, aggressive food laws, shrinking 1st amendment rights, restricting travel rights, TSA invasive techniques, etc etc etc , all the REAL things that are happening and that are NOT wild speculation, see a much different picture than the Drake scenario of mass arrests and a golden age happening.

Personally I feel that all those that think Drake is the real deal are being distracted from, well, the real deal. The common sense aspects of the Drake drama should be taken seriously and the rest should be tossed in the garbage, this is just my opinion and what I am doing with it. We all must make up our own minds and make our own choices over what is right for your "self".

If a huge event does happen which is not out of the question and is highly likely, and martial law is declared and the military is in the streets and tons of people are being arrested, (the media lying to people as usual saying be calm, all is safe) but what is happening is just the opposite of what Drake is saying is gonna happen, and all the "Drake believers" (militia, survivalists, etc etc etc) run out to greet the "saviors" with a plate of cookies and a glass of milk, well, they may actually get a totally different response from the saviors than they were expecting.......

[mountain_jim]

QUESTION: If Drake said today that arrests would begin tomorrow.... Would you go get some toilet paper asap?

No, because I already stocked up. :)

Not really because of this Drake business, but because of all the possible calamities which could disrupt my ability to get to a store, or a store's ability to take my paper and give me supplies in exchange, or a store having any supplies available, all of which require a working financial system, transportation system, power system, paper-manufacturing system, etc.

Unlike the folks on the Doomsday Preppers show, I am optimistic enough to think whatever disruptions might occur will be days or weeks, not months or years, and if I run out, I have large amounts of leaves and magazines and stuff.

[EnergyGardener]

I am sure the Israelis and the Tarnished Brass in the Pentagon, CIA, NSA and elsewhere fully expected to successfully carry out their plans to start WWIII over this past year. They failed and continue to do so miserably.

Bill Ryan, Rosebud and others here may try to fuel the fear fire that these same criminal murderous cowards will somehow develop an invisible shield to pull off this long carefully planned and funded civil war / uprising now.

Don't buy into the fear. Prepare for the transition in every way:


Do not Allow business to go on "as normal".
• Challenge every bit of BS the government and media announces, to your friends, family and in public.
• Challenge the military if they show up to search you for no reason, including within airports, train stations or on the street.
• Most important, as so many of you have correctly stated we must continue to do, for we are winning: Visualize, Meditate, Pray of our free, prosperous, healthy Humanity on a happy Earth, with these failed traitors gone, IN THE PRESENT. That is our power, our destiny, our obligation to ourselves, those that do not yet know, but most of all, our children and grandchildren and their grandchildren.
• Provide Unconditional Love to all, but do so with the full knowledge that the "Negatives" have outstayed their welcome and must now depart and learn their lessons elsewhere.


They are vastly outnumbered, no longer enjoy the support of the malevolent ET/EDs and will only inflict substantial pain and suffering if awakening humans buy into the fear fire they are trying to spread. Take advantage of the knowledge and awakening that is now accelerating on a viral basis; do your part to fully manifest our present world worthy of humanity, not their intended self destruction of ourselves that even the misguided "alternative community" beings are claiming cannot be avoided.

[Journeyon]

I am sure the Israelis and the Tarnished Brass in the Pentagon, CIA, NSA and elsewhere fully expected to successfully carry out their plans to start WWIII over this past year. They failed and continue to do so miserably.

Bill Ryan, Rosebud and others here may try to fuel the fear fire that these same criminal murderous cowards will somehow develop an invisible shield to pull off this long carefully planned and funded civil war / uprising now.

Don't buy into the fear. Prepare for the transition in every way:


Do not Allow business to go on "as normal".
Challenge every bit of BS the government and media announces, to your friends, family and in public.
Challenge the military if they show up to search you for no reason, including within airports, train stations or on the street.
Most important, as so many of you have correctly stated we must continue to do, for we are winning: "Visualize, Meditate, Pray of our free, prosperous, healthy Humanity on a happy Earth, with these failed traitors gone, IN THE PRESENT. That is our power, our destiny, our obligation to ourselves, those that do not yet know, but most of all, our children and grandchildren and their grandchildren.
Provide Unconditional Love to all, but do so with the full knowledge that the "Negatives" have outstayed their welcome and must now depart and learn their lessons elsewhere.



They are outnumbered, no longer enjoy the support of the malevolent ET/EDs and will only inflict substantial pain and suffering if awakening humans buy into the fear fire they are trying to spread. Take advantage of the accelerating knowledge and awakening that is now happening on a viral basis; do your part to fully manifest our present world worthy of humanity, not their intended self destruction of ourselves that even the misguided "alternative community" beings are inferring cannot be avoided.

EnergyGardner, Thank you for this beautiful synopsis of your perspective. I feel as you do and couldn't have said it better!:cheer2:

Preparing in every way and knowing the power of our thought and words is critical. It is time to get serious and focus on being the change we wish to see.

Peace,
Journeyon

[Kimberley]

Bill Ryan, Rosebud and others here may try to fuel the fear fire that these same criminal murderous cowards will somehow develop an invisible shield to pull off this long carefully planned and funded civil war / uprising now

Don't buy into the fear. Prepare for the transition in every way:


Do not Allow business to go on "as normal".
Challenge every bit of BS the government and media announces, to your friends, family and in public.
Challenge the military if they show up to search you for no reason, including within airports, train stations or on the street.
Most important, as so many of you have correctly stated we must continue to do, for we are winning: "Visualize, Meditate, Pray of our free, prosperous, healthy Humanity on a happy Earth, with these failed traitors gone, IN THE PRESENT. That is our power, our destiny, our obligation to ourselves, those that do not yet know, but most of all, our children and grandchildren and their grandchildren.
Provide Unconditional Love to all, but do so with the full knowledge that the "Negatives" have outstayed their welcome and must now depart and learn their lessons elsewhere.


Excellent EG and all others that see this.

Be prepared NOT scared!

I have been fully prepared since the summer of 2008, I do not have an underground bunker of a gun :-) however I am not prepared out of a place of fear I am prepared from a sense of knowing that I have had for these past few years that "something/s" is going to happen to shack things up and it will be for the betterment of humanity.

We have already had a couple of somethings the past few years, such as the Gulf of Mexico oil gush & corexit disaster, and Fukushima, just to name a few things... both of those events have woken up a lot of peoples eyes and pulled people together in the name of insisting change... Did you all know that ALL of the nuclear reactors in Japan have been shut down / turned off? Anyway a lot of good things have come about from these events... I am not going to go on about that, however I do my best to keep my sights on the good side of all the events and changes going on on this planet.

I do not know what the next "something/s" is/are going to be, however I feel so positive that it/they is/are going to be for the betterment of humanity. The universe is conspiring for us to balance and unify in love and peace. And from my eyes and the eyes of many many others this is happening. Congratulations!

Keep you eyes on the prize!! The prize is LOVE not fear!!

Much love to us all :grouphug:

[EnergyGardener]

Bill Ryan, Rosebud and others here may try to fuel the fear fire that these same criminal murderous cowards will somehow develop an invisible shield to pull off this long carefully planned and funded civil war / uprising now

Don't buy into the fear. Prepare for the transition in every way:


Do not Allow business to go on "as normal".
Challenge every bit of BS the government and media announces, to your friends, family and in public.
Challenge the military if they show up to search you for no reason, including within airports, train stations or on the street.
Most important, as so many of you have correctly stated we must continue to do, for we are winning: "Visualize, Meditate, Pray of our free, prosperous, healthy Humanity on a happy Earth, with these failed traitors gone, IN THE PRESENT. That is our power, our destiny, our obligation to ourselves, those that do not yet know, but most of all, our children and grandchildren and their grandchildren.
Provide Unconditional Love to all, but do so with the full knowledge that the "Negatives" have outstayed their welcome and must now depart and learn their lessons elsewhere.


Excellent EG and all others that see this.

Be prepared NOT scared!

I have been fully prepared since the summer of 2008, I do not have an underground bunker of a gun :-) however I am not prepared out of a place of fear I am prepared from a sense of knowing that I have had for these past few years that "something/s" is going to happen to shack things up and it will be for the betterment of humanity.

We have already had a couple of somethings the past few years, such as the Gulf of Mexico oil gush & corexit disaster, and Fukushima, just to name a few things... both of those events have woken up a lot of peoples eyes and pulled people together in the name of insisting change... Did you all know that ALL of the nuclear reactors in Japan have been shut down / turned off? Anyway a lot of good things have come about from these events... I am not going to go on about that, however I do my best to keep my sights on the good side of all the events and changes going on on this planet.

I do not know what the next "something/s" is/are going to be, however I feel so positive that it/they is/are going to be for the betterment of humanity. The universe is conspiring for us to balance and unify in love and peace. And from my eyes and the eyes of many many others this is happening. Congratulations!

Keep you eyes on the prize!! The prize is LOVE not fear!!

Much love to us all :grouphug:

Kimberly, journeyon, DID, Stardust, rs50, Mountain Jim, promezeus and my very good PA friends,

As you know so well:

We shall be judged for our response to not only the possession of our knowledge, but the responsibility itself of our unique opportunities of incarnation to do so—not the least by ourselves.

[Avocadess]

Funny thing: I have never believed Rosebud to be anything but a disinformation agent. Only time will tell I supposed.

Regarding the issue with people who have been doing nothing but "living off the system" my understanding is that people who are able to contribute will be expected to do so.

I have to say, though, that after Katrina happened a lot of the refugees from New Orleans came and stayed at the Austin Convention Center for a while. I wanted to help in whatever way I could. I did not have money to give, but I had a large living room and a couch and an open heart. I offered help both with a sign -- that I walked through the convention center -- and through a volunteer at the convention center -- my home free of charge to a mother with a baby or small child.

NOT even ONE person checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever. I talked to the volunteer about it, and she told me that she had wondered the same thing and talked to people about it and found out that the reason no one wanted to take me up on my offer of a real home as opposed to the convention center and its cots was because they were afraid if they left the convention center they would not get all the "government benefits" they hoped to get.

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

[SilentFeathers]

Funny thing: I have never believed Rosebud to be anything but a disinformation agent. Only time will tell I supposed.

Regarding the issue with people who have been doing nothing but "living off the system" my understanding is that people who are able to contribute will be expected to do so.

I have to say, though, that after Katrina happened a lot of the refugees from New Orleans came and stayed at the Austin Convention Center for a while. I wanted to help in whatever way I could. I did not have money to give, but I had a large living room and a couch and an open heart. I offered both with a sign -- walking through the convention center -- and though a volunteer at the convention center -- my home free of charge to a mother with a baby or small child. NOT ONE person even checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever. I talked to the volunteer about it, and she told me that she had wondered the same thing and talked to people about it and found out that the reason no one wanted to take me up on my offer of a real home as opposed to the convention center and its cots was because they were afraid if they left the convention center they would not get all the "govenment benefits" they hoped to get.

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

It won't take much to easily persuade a big portion of the population to freely go to the fema camps huh?

In a situation of mass chaos that is....

[EnergyGardener]

Funny thing: I have never believed Rosebud to be anything but a disinformation agent. Only time will tell I supposed.

Regarding the issue with people who have been doing nothing but "living off the system" my understanding is that people who are able to contribute will be expected to do so.

I have to say, though, that after Katrina happened a lot of the refugees from New Orleans came and stayed at the Austin Convention Center for a while. I wanted to help in whatever way I could. I did not have money to give, but I had a large living room and a couch and an open heart. I offered both with a sign -- walking through the convention center -- and though a volunteer at the convention center -- my home free of charge to a mother with a baby or small child. NOT ONE person even checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever. I talked to the volunteer about it, and she told me that she had wondered the same thing and talked to people about it and found out that the reason no one wanted to take me up on my offer of a real home as opposed to the convention center and its cots was because they were afraid if they left the convention center they would not get all the "govenment benefits" they hoped to get.

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

It won't take much to easily persuade a big portion of the population to freely go to the fema camps huh?

In a situation of mass chaos that is....

The circumstances for that "situation of mass chaos" can and shall be avoided.

One has to ask why you are putting your energy toward that position.

[modwiz]

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

It won't take much to easily persuade a big portion of the population to freely go to the fema camps huh?

In a situation of mass chaos that is....

It would certainly help get the blue pill takers out of the way.

Here is an article about a quiet movement that is a very necessary complement to dismantling the current system.
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/22/rise_of_the_new_economy_movement/


"Just beneath the surface of traditional media attention, something vital has been gathering force and is about to explode into public consciousness. The “New Economy Movement” is a far-ranging coming together of organizations, projects, activists, theorists and ordinary citizens committed to rebuilding the American political-economic system from the ground up."

[Avocadess]

SilentFeathers, not me and few of my friends would allow themselves to be carried off by men with guns if we could stop it in any way.

So let me understand what you and so many others have been implying these past 6 weeks since we have been talking about Drake and the mass arrests: Is it your contention that just because we support what Drake is saying that will make us MORE vulnerable to FEMA camps?

If this is what you are trying to say, I must disagree with you. "Uppity" masses who stand up for themselves and QUESTION AUTHORITY rather than blindly follow the old system(s) are never as easy to lead around by the nose -- and this movement of Drake et al. is indeed "uppity" in the eyes of those who consider themselves our Lords and Gods for these past centuries...!

P.S. Soon I will be offline for 1-3 days (as I am moving residences). Y'all have the best weekend EVER...!!!

[SilentFeathers]

SilentFeathers, not me and few of my friends would allow themselves to be carried off by men with guns if we could stop it in any way.

So let me understand what you and so many others have been implying these past 6 weeks since we have been talking about Drake and the mass arrests: Is it your contention that just because we support what Drake is saying that will make us MORE vulnerable to FEMA camps?

If this is what you are trying to say, I must disagree with you. "Uppity" masses who stand up for themselves and QUESTION AUTHORITY rather than blindly follow the old system(s) are never as easy to lead around by the nose -- and this movement of Drake et al. is indeed "uppity" in the eyes of those who consider themselves our Lords and Gods for these past centuries...!

P.S. Soon I will be offline for 1-3 days (as I am moving residences). Y'all have the best weekend EVER...!!!

I never said that, your twisting my words or I was too vague. I meant that many in a time a of severe stress, duress, from a chaotic disaster etc, would freely go to fema camps for food and shelter in a really bad situation, especially if the media was saying that is what they should do. Just by reading your posts I doubt you'd be easily persuaded, regardless if you believe Drake or not. Those somewhat or more so awake would surely know better than to walk in to a trap regardless of how hungry they were...of course I'm just speculating using a bit of common sense.

[Kimberley]

Here is an article about a quiet movement that is a very necessary complement to dismantling the current system.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/22/rise_of_the_new_economy_movement/


"Just beneath the surface of traditional media attention, something vital has been gathering force and is about to explode into public consciousness. The “New Economy Movement” is a far-ranging coming together of organizations, projects, activists, theorists and ordinary citizens committed to rebuilding the American political-economic system from the ground up."

Great article thanks... one of many examples of how things are moving in an uplifting way...

And that reminded me of Rob Brezsny's writing and work and humor... his book is titled "PRONOIA Is the Antidote for Paranoia: How the Whole World Is Conspiring to Shower You with Blessings."

And his book idea started with a three-page essay called "Glory in the Highest" that he updated to be eight times as long as the original, the essay and excerpts from his book can be found here:

http://www.freewillastrology.com/beauty/beauty.main210.shtml

I'll post this for starters.... Enjoy! Much love!



When the original edition of my book PRONOIA Is the Antidote for Paranoia came out in 2005, it had a fine three-page essay called "Glory in the Highest," in which I spoke of all the miraculous things that we take for granted. It was one of my personal favorites.

But a lot changed for me between the time the first edition came out and the time I started work on the revised and expanded version a couple of years later. For starters, I became a magnet for revelations about the marvels and wonders of the world -- including many I hadn't previously been aware of.

It was as if, by publishing the book, I had invited the universe to shower me with even more evidence for pronoia.

One of the results of this flood of good news was that when I finished the revised version of "Glory in the Highest," it was eight times as long as the original. Why? Because I crammed it full of the many shocking facts I had discovered about how wrong the conventional wisdom is. It's not just that we take our everyday miracles for granted. The further truth is that we are fantastically lucky and blessed to be alive at this moment of history.

Among the well-researched points included in the new essay are the seven below.

1. The world has become dramatically more peaceful since the end of the Cold War, with steep declines in the numbers of armed conflicts, acts of genocide, weapon sales, and refugees. In fact, our era is the most peaceful time in recorded history.

2. Crime in the U.S. is at its lowest level since it was first officially tracked. Between 1973 and 2005, the violent crime rate decreased by 56 percent, while crimes against property shrank by 70 percent. The years 2005 and 2006 brought a small increase in violent crimes, but by 2008, the rate had fallen even lower than it was in 2005.

3. After rising steadily since the beginning of time, the number of people in the world living in absolute poverty has fallen by nearly one-third in less than three decades.

4. A Nobel prize-winning economic historian has shown that those of us alive today are far hardier and healthier and smarter than our ancestors, even those of 150 years ago. We get sick less, overcome the sickness we do suffer from better, and live longer. Even our internal organs are formed better.

5. Torture is no longer a commonplace feature of the justice system, as it was in many places of the world for centuries.

6. The rate of child mortality in the developing world has dropped precipitously, while literacy is increasing steadily.

7. Life expectancy is rising steadily. People live more than 50% longer than they did a century ago. Many scientists believe there is no absolute limit to the human life span, and are working hard to extend it.

[Billy]

Here ya go - weapons failed to go off... 2 days ago

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/bellagio-employees-foil-attempted-casino-robbery-174807211.html

Casino employees had time to grab one of the thieves, 24-year-old Michael Quinn Belton, after his pepper spray repeatedly malfunctioned.

"The guy kept spraying and the thing wouldn't work," said Richard Hauck, who was playing at the table at the time of the attempted robbery. "The spray kept falling on the table."

poor michael the big time criminal turned out to be a little squirt. I dare say there will be more big time little squirts to be exposed. :rofl:

[aranuk]

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

It won't take much to easily persuade a big portion of the population to freely go to the fema camps huh?

In a situation of mass chaos that is....

It would certainly help get the blue pill takers out of the way.

Here is an article about a quiet movement that is a very necessary complement to dismantling the current system.
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/22/rise_of_the_new_economy_movement/


"Just beneath the surface of traditional media attention, something vital has been gathering force and is about to explode into public consciousness. The “New Economy Movement” is a far-ranging coming together of organizations, projects, activists, theorists and ordinary citizens committed to rebuilding the American political-economic system from the ground up."

Hi Modwiz I read that article about the New Economy Movement. Things ARE happening! Change is a necessity, and it looks to me to be working well.

Stan

[xbusymom]

QUESTION: If Drake said today that arrests would begin tomorrow.... Would you go get some toilet paper asap?

No, because I already stocked up. :)

Not really because of this Drake business, but because of all the possible calamities which could disrupt my ability to get to a store, or a store's ability to take my paper and give me supplies in exchange, or a store having any supplies available, all of which require a working financial system, transportation system, power system, paper-manufacturing system, etc.

Unlike the folks on the Doomsday Preppers show, I am optimistic enough to think whatever disruptions might occur will be days or weeks, not months or years, and if I run out, I have large amounts of leaves and magazines and stuff.

I still dont see anything wrong with a rag that can be washed and reused,,, well ok- each person has their own rag - ya happy now??

[xbusymom]

Funny thing: I have never believed Rosebud to be anything but a disinformation agent. Only time will tell I supposed.

Regarding the issue with people who have been doing nothing but "living off the system" my understanding is that people who are able to contribute will be expected to do so.

I have to say, though, that after Katrina happened a lot of the refugees from New Orleans came and stayed at the Austin Convention Center for a while. I wanted to help in whatever way I could. I did not have money to give, but I had a large living room and a couch and an open heart. I offered help both with a sign -- that I walked through the convention center -- and through a volunteer at the convention center -- my home free of charge to a mother with a baby or small child.

NOT even ONE person checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever. I talked to the volunteer about it, and she told me that she had wondered the same thing and talked to people about it and found out that the reason no one wanted to take me up on my offer of a real home as opposed to the convention center and its cots was because they were afraid if they left the convention center they would not get all the "government benefits" they hoped to get.

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

true, and we may not be able to get a lot of 'moving forward' done until the govt does crash and everyone KNOWS that the gravy train has finally crashed.

[Alie]

I keep saying "Shock & Awe". I think it will take no less than that.

It's like trying to hear your inner voice. You must be QUIET!

So, until everything comes to a standstill, it's unlikely there will be a mass awakening.

[frozen alchemy]

Knowning the state you live in and the tone of your post I'll assume your what would modernly be called a "liberal" or perhaps "democrat" (though both terms are so corrupted its almost not worth using them anymore).

I agree with your basic premis but it seems you need to re-evaluate your political biases & self edit a bit or perhaps confront them and break free of the two party system & it's (admitedly attractive in some ways) view's

It's a bit hard to make sense out of your cracked spelling skills, but just because I live in Oregon doesn't make me a liberal or a Democrat, or anything else. Portland is known as a liberal/anarchic town but the rest of Oregon is solidly Republican/conservative, and there's all kinds everywhere here. Myself, if I had to put a label on it, would be atheist/progressive/anarchist/humanist, with a side order of 'I hope the aliens are coming to save our asses, cuz we're F'd'; Or something like that.

What I was trying to say and perhaps badly because I was pressed for time, is that that 'Rosebud' piece reads like it was written by a skilled FICTION writer. It's not a simple retelling of inside information, it's a novel. He almost starts with 'it was a dark and stormy night' fer gawd's sake. He goes on to declare Obama a 'revolutionary' in the mold of the 60s (I don't consider this a bad thing, do you?) and implies that he and Bill Ayers are going to start bombing the homeland again. Like I said before, I'm more than disappointed with Obama, I was expecting the entire Bush cabal to be in chains by now, on death row awaiting their appeal process. But agreed, this left versus right and Republican versus Democrat meme is diversionary and incendiary.

Can I assume that because you're in Alaska that you lust after Sarah Palin, shoot caribou and wolves and drive an ice road truck? If you want to tell someone to "re-evaluate your political biases & self edit a bit" start with yourself.

Meanwhile, still waiting for ANY ONE THING that Drake said was imminent to happen... or have the 'in a few weeks' already come and gone? I'm having trouble keeping track.

[gripreaper]

http://formerwhitehat.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/end.png

[jorr lundstrom]

http://formerwhitehat.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/end.png


LOL Jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today,

thats the rule. (Alice in Wonderland) LOL


All is well


Jorr

[tenacity1]

I am shocked and very very disapointed to hear folks talk about those suffering from shock and trauma as "Living off the system."
have you ever walked a mile in their shoes and or perhaps considered how our govt and media has programmed many people to be beyond hope...
I was debating whether I wanted to stay here. You just made up my mind for me. Enlightened people don't talk about other human beings that way.It's judgemental and sounds awfully like the far right. LOve your brothers and sisters . They probably didn't take you up on it because they could see you would judge them.. Have mercy on the souls of those who bash the poor.. God bless ya'll but .. I cannot stand seeing others talked about as if they weren't even worth consideration..

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Funny thing: I have never believed Rosebud to be anything but a disinformation agent. Only time will tell I supposed.

Regarding the issue with people who have been doing nothing but "living off the system" my understanding is that people who are able to contribute will be expected to do so.

I have to say, though, that after Katrina happened a lot of the refugees from New Orleans came and stayed at the Austin Convention Center for a while. I wanted to help in whatever way I could. I did not have money to give, but I had a large living room and a couch and an open heart. I offered help both with a sign -- that I walked through the convention center -- and through a volunteer at the convention center -- my home free of charge to a mother with a baby or small child.

NOT even ONE person checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever. I talked to the volunteer about it, and she told me that she had wondered the same thing and talked to people about it and found out that the reason no one wanted to take me up on my offer of a real home as opposed to the convention center and its cots was because they were afraid if they left the convention center they would not get all the "government benefits" they hoped to get.

That floored me. I don't think that way. I don't live that way. I was shocked and astonished at the LACK OF SOVEREIGNTY those people are feeling within their own consciousnesses. I am not here to judge them -- but if I were to try to help them, it would be to help them to learn to live as free men and women. I believe they are programmed by society, the system -- and a programmed family -- to be that way.

Hi.

There is also another way of looking at this.

These people who have just lost their castle, job, way of life, witnessed horrific crimes and maybe a loved one, are physically & emotionally in dire strates. The chances are that the GOVT. has promised them what ever it takes to get them back up onto their feet. The chances are they have been told to stay put & don't move under any circumstance.

Its also possible that these poor frightened people were unwilling to split away from their husbands, sons and brothers in favour of sharing a room in a complete strangers house who is only willing to cater for the vulnerable females. How many of these frightened souls have just experienced, witnessed or heard of the rape that was going on? Itsn't it perfectly understandable that your kind offer was not taken up on?

You said you talked to a volunteer about why no one, "NOT even ONE person checked me out or showed any interest whatsoever". Isn't just possible that the volunteer was part of the machine and what they told you may have not been the truth.

Sorry to say girl, but you are nowhere near street wise enough to pass judgement. And that's exactly what you have just done. Judged them.

~

[Alie]

Tenacity1
This particular thread has been fraught with high emotions and passions.
I'm not sure if you were considering my post directed at anyone being taken advantage of when I mentioned a Shock & Awe event. I was reading some previous posts --- so in my response I am suggesting that to bring about better living conditions, there needs to be a a cleansing, closing of a door, final chapter kind of thing, which would affect all of us --- something that finalizes what we have and waking up people to see reality as it is.

Regarding "living off the system"... Certainly I am familiar first hand with someone in need of governmental assistance, and it would be a hardship to an already hard life should their benefits be taken away --- I personally have great appreciation for folks who do their best to live their life with disabilities or unexpected life challenges --- it's harder than any of us non-disabled people could EVER imagine.

However; the expression "living off the system" has arisen because some people have tried to "game the system" and these are the folks who give a bad reputation to recipients of governmental assistance.

I really hope you don't leave us.

[mountain_jim]

QUESTION: If Drake said today that arrests would begin tomorrow.... Would you go get some toilet paper asap?

No, because I already stocked up. :)

Not really because of this Drake business, but because of all the possible calamities which could disrupt my ability to get to a store, or a store's ability to take my paper and give me supplies in exchange, or a store having any supplies available, all of which require a working financial system, transportation system, power system, paper-manufacturing system, etc.

Unlike the folks on the Doomsday Preppers show, I am optimistic enough to think whatever disruptions might occur will be days or weeks, not months or years, and if I run out, I have large amounts of leaves and magazines and stuff.

I still dont see anything wrong with a rag that can be washed and reused,,, well ok- each person has their own rag - ya happy now??

That's true, but only based on the assumption of plenty of water. For folks relying on public water systems or electricity for water, that could be the most precious resource of all, say if arrests were happening and the response by those trying to hold onto power was to bring down the grid in some places. (Or just the usual sun-caused CME Doomie scenario)

I actually have plenty of (gravity-fed spring) water and leaves, and (you are right) would probably prefer a washed rag to magazine paper or leaves if push came to shove.

I think TP has become a (humorous) symbol for general preparedness, and that was really how I believe Drake was using it and also how I was using it here.

[Avocadess]

Eva Moore emailed me in response to my concern that Brockbrader, though arrested and held at ADA County Jail in Boise, is not listend on their website as an inmate even though that list is updated daily. She explained that he is not listed because he is in "federal holding." Now that I think of it longer that makes sense. Since he has not had his trial yet it would seem only right not to publicly list him as an "inmate" until and unless he were convicted. As it stands, he hopes to have the charges dropped -- which I believe, from what I know of the case, would be a very good thing.

The latest news with Bill Brockbrader: Bill says his source warned him he was going to be arrested on federal charges. I could have run, but he decided to face it head on and did not even tell Eva about it in advance. He was arrested the morning of May 22 I believe.

Recent video of Eva with telephone call to Bill Brockbrader at the end uploaded today, May 25th:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-4C8YSbXPs&;feature=em-uploademail

Addressing the confusion that many might feel because Brockbrader's source had told him he would not have to be arrested again, the explanation given by Eva Moore is that Bill got the information from his source approximately 7-8 days before a U.S. Marshal arrived at his door, meaning that he could have gone into hiding at that point. However, Bill chose to face it head on. These are charges, they explain, that are the same charges he was given on a state level and had dismissed. Now he sees this as an opportunity to get these charges dropped on a federal level so that more people with military backgrounds where people have been set up to be blackmailed and then worked on black projects can feel free to come out and tell their truths.

Eva Moore urged people who have not listened to Kay Griggs' (wife of Colonel George Griggs) video in four parts that exposes so much of the hijinks going on in the military. I have watched those videos and was astounded at the sheer volume of information she had to share! She is a delightful women, very much into Christianity in a way that has given her much strength throughout her life with Col. Griggs (in which Griggs told her a huge amount of information the first few years of the marriage, but then turned to abusing her).

I have much respect for Kay Griggs and feel her testimony is worth listening to more than once -- even though it is quite long and in fact about 7-8 hours in total. As I mentioned before, the only bone I have to pick with Kay is that she takes the stance that many fundamentalist Christians do that homosexuality is a sin. Yes, to force homosexuality on a person is very wrong, just as rape is wrong; but I get the feeling that Kay might not really understand that approximately one out of ten people are BORN gay. I'm all for gay rights -- but I am NOT for how homosexual acts have been used in the military as a way to compromise and blackmail individuals in the military.

Links to Kay Griggs' excellent videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yak9nd22bWo&;feature=related -- a SHORT intro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNitCNycKQ - 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNQQir-DfEM&;feature=related - 2 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaZUEEPNwiU&;feature=relmfu - 3 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9IwW9x1ps&;feature=relmfu - 4 of 4

The reason that Eva so strongly recommends listening to Kay Griggs' testimony is because this will give Americans a very real picture of just what is going on in the military -- especially at the top levels of "dark operations" and the way in which every individual who takes a role in those operations -- also known as black projects -- is set up to be compromised and then blackmailed. This will also help people understand what Bill Brockbrader has been facing. He has done things he is far from proud of, but he has confessed these things and he feels a strong burden to get out information as a whistleblower that all too few have the chutzpah or willingness to do because of the repercussions each and every person who has worked on a black project does and will have to face if they should choose to expose the truth to the American public and the world as a whole.

Hecklers and naysayers will try to make this be about Bill Brockbrader's conviction for having sex with a minor when he was 26 years old. He does not deny that he did and he also served time for that. But it cannot be emphasized enough, in my opinion, that that is NOT the meat of the Bill Brockbrader story. The real substance of the story is what he has told as a whistleblower. His name does not show up in Navy SEAL records. Surprise, surprise. A Navy SEAL that remembered him and came out to say so found that his name too is not or is no longer in Navy SEAL records -- at least, not those that most people, even in the military, can access. These black projects play hardball. Of that there is no doubt. They do their best to deny he was ever there while also doing their best to lash out at his credibility by smearing him with whatever they have on him. I do not applaud his having sex with a minor. No, that was not a good thing. But I do applaud his courage in coming out to expose the black projects even at great cost to himself. It would have been ever so much easier for him to just shut up.

How much do we want to know the truth? Enough to forgive the transgressions of those that come forth to tell us? Personally, I believe in confession, forgiveness and redemption. And I also recognize the courageous soul in Bill Brockbrader and am very proud of him for taking his stand as he has done.


Letters of support can be sent snail mail to Bill Brockbrader at:

William Brockbrader 1046233
CO ADA County Jail
7210 Barrister Drive
Boise Idaho 83704

Letters of personal encouragement to him as well as letters that his lawyer can show the jury -- stating that we applaud his whistle-blowing and that we need and want to know what is really going on in the military so that we can clean it up and make it right, etc. would be much appreciated!

[Avocadess]

ON ANOTHER NOTE -- TODAY'S OPPORTUNITY TO HELP CONTINUING DISSOLUTION OF THE CONTROLLING MATRIX ON THE ASTRAL LEVELS TODAY -- an important way to contribute to the mass arrests and global transition out of the centuries-old control of the "ruling elite" and to FREEDOM and much, much more here on Earth:

FROM PORTAL 2012 -- A scheduled global intention once again as the controlling Matrix has not yet been fully dissolved:

"Although Reboot of the Grid was very successful, one significant part of the Archons grid on the etheric and astral planes is still intact.

"It is a grid that keeps controlling and manipulating human personal relationships for millenia. This grid is the reason for most human conflicts. It is the main reason for delays in final victory of the Light on this planet. It consists of Archons and their minions on the etheric and astral planes in a thin layer close to Earth’s surface.

"The physical counterpart of this grid consists of people deep within the Jesuit network. I would suggest everyone stop focusing so much on Committee of 300 because the real control lies elsewhere. The physical Jesuit Archons are still quite dangerous and the green light for the Event will not be given until those people are cut away from their resources. The Resistance is dealing with the situation and I will post more intel about this when/if it will be declassified.


"It is time now to keep dissolving the Archons grid on the etheric and astral planes with a unified meditation this Sunday May 27th. Please use the exact meditation from Reboot of the Grid so our consciousness stream gets unified.

"Instructions:

"1. Relax your mind and body by watching your breath for a few minutes.

"2. Visualize a pillar of electric blue Light emanating from the Galactic Central Sun, going through your body to the center of the Earth. Keep this pillar of Light active for a few minutes. Then visualize all negative entities around the Earth being removed from etheric and astral planes along with all their negative spiritual technologies and magical tools and all those entities being escorted into the Light by the non-physical freedom fighters of the Light. Visualize this process taking place worldwide peacefully and smoothly. Visualize the world finally being free from spiritual slavery, free from all evil Archons, Reptilians, demons, elementals and other negative non-physical beings. Visualize the vibration of the etheric and astral planes getting lighter and brighter until all dark beings are gone and only Light remains.

"3. Visualize bright new spiritual future for humanity, with angels, fairies, dolphins, unicorns, spiritual guides and other beings of Light inhabiting etheric and astral planes. Visualize all wounds of humanity being healed, all humanity being inspired and guided with everybody having their own connection with their own Soul and the Source."

"Exact times for different time zones are:

"9:00 am HAST May 27th (Hawaii)
11:00 am AKDT May 27th (Alaska)
12:00 pm PDT May 27th (Los Angeles)
1:00 pm MDT May 27th (Denver)
2:00 pm CDT May 27th (Houston)
3:00 pm EDT May 27th (New York)
4:00 pm BRT May 27th (Rio de Janeiro)
8:00 pm BST May 27th (London)
9:00 pm CEST May 27th (Paris)
9:00 pm SAST May 27th (South Africa)
10:00 pm EEST May 27th (Bulgaria)
11:00 pm MSK May 27th (Moscow)
12:30 am IST May 28th (India)
3:00 am CST May 28th (Beijing)
4:00 am JST May 28th (Tokyo)
5:00 am AEST May 28th (Sydney)

"Main Facebook group for this event:

http://www.facebook.com/events/412702698762344/ "

[gripreaper]

I am shocked and very very disapointed to hear folks talk about those suffering from shock and trauma as "Living off the system."
have you ever walked a mile in their shoes and or perhaps considered how our govt and media has programmed many people to be beyond hope...
I was debating whether I wanted to stay here. You just made up my mind for me. Enlightened people don't talk about other human beings that way.It's judgemental and sounds awfully like the far right. LOve your brothers and sisters . They probably didn't take you up on it because they could see you would judge them.. Have mercy on the souls of those who bash the poor.. God bless ya'll but .. I cannot stand seeing others talked about as if they weren't even worth consideration..

I don't want to derail this thread, but the current "system" is designed to extract the most amount of energy and resources from the most people, all of the time, and it is inevitable that there will be many who fall through the cracks and need assistance, which was designed to happen. This system has a "survival of the fittest" mentality masquerading as competition which is supposed to be good for everybody, when in fact it just fosters narcissism and greed.

If we could keep the fruits of our labor and not pass all of it upstream to the elite, there would be plenty to go around and the few gaming the system would have a difficult time trying to game sovereign individuals, who in most cases, are empathic and compassionate people, and would be so willing to help those who are suffering or otherwise handicapped.

[promezeus]

I am shocked and very very disapointed to hear folks talk about those suffering from shock and trauma as "Living off the system."
have you ever walked a mile in their shoes and or perhaps considered how our govt and media has programmed many people to be beyond hope...
I was debating whether I wanted to stay here. You just made up my mind for me. Enlightened people don't talk about other human beings that way.It's judgemental and sounds awfully like the far right. LOve your brothers and sisters . They probably didn't take you up on it because they could see you would judge them.. Have mercy on the souls of those who bash the poor.. God bless ya'll but .. I cannot stand seeing others talked about as if they weren't even worth consideration..

Everyone can do what's good for himself/herself. Tenacity can leave this group if that's good for her. Maybe she will leave the planet entirely to continue her journey in 3d. It's her business. Many people believe that half the population of the planet will not stick around for this planetary upgrade. Part of the job of the dark side is to force people to get off the fence and and make a choice. It's not necessary for us to judge who goes and who stays. Inelia Benz says she has no preference for being a light worker or dark worker. She's just doing the job she was programmed to do. It's just a planetary evolution timeline event in which she is going with the flow. She totally accepts her role. I strive to stay in touch with myself as well....including synchronization of mind and body.
www.traumaprevention.com

[write4change]

Many of the people who are successful won the sperm lottery. Now you could argue you chose those sperm with spiritual guidance before your soul incarnated in this body but if that is true then everything is connected with some role to play within a huge universe in which we do not have the power to comprehend the big picture of continual creation. Darwinism was never meant to be survival of the strongest as being the fitest. Strong often leaves out integrity, spirituality, and morality. All of those things matter because the means determines the end.

Yesterday, I came out of a store with some change in my hand to buy a cold drink because I was hot and tired and needed a drink. I was immediately confronted with an old man with one leg who begged me for a dollar for a cold drink saying he was so tired and thirsty. I gave it to him. Immediately, a young guy next to me who was big and stron and healthy started telling me about how all these kind of people are loosers etc and giving them anything is just a waste of money. I said nothing because what is the point with someone who has absolutely no empathy. I immediately wondered since the guy was my age if he lost the leg and most of his life in Viet Nam. Either way, the one thing I know is that he was thirsty and he needed a drink. I lost nothing in giving it to him. Do I do this every time? No, but I use my discernment.

Often the programming we chose is an obstacle to be overcome to learn some kind of lesson we chose to learn. Learning when to go with the flow and when to stand your ground is part of becoming a sovereign adult.

When I was growing up I did not hear "winning is not everything, it is the only thing; I heard it is how you play the game that matters more than who won." There was a big difference in my country now from then. I lived in the time of the atomic bomb duck and cover etc. All my peers adopted when your number is up your number is up and for the most part we felt safe. We didn't lock our doors all the time nor did we think our neighbors would steal our stuff. Now I never feel safe. I fear the banks, the police, and the government because you can never tell any more who is capable of using what for what. Loosing my stuff is a bitch but TPTB will take your life -- financially and psychologically. If the business of America is business than the only thing that matters is profit which is a pitiful poor way of living in MHO.

[turiya]

Noticed that this thread has become awfully quiet in the last couple days... mmm...
What's up Drake supporters... cat got your fingers tied up?

And so okay, what's up with this?
1) Before Brockbader gets arrested/turns himself in, there is a Brockbader/Drake radio show that shows they are on the same page.
2) The latest couple of videos/interviews, Brockbader comes out and says Obama is a white hat lightworker. Say What???

So, how come no one is pushing this point? Since Brockbader & Drake are on the same page, does Drake also agree with the notion that Obama is a lightworker - doing such great things?
Sounds like a pipe dream to me...

Has Drake also come out and said that Obama is a good guy, white hat lightworker?
If not, then why not?
Has he ever answered the question about this in a clear and distinct manner?
If he doesn't agree, then this blows Brockbader and Drake being on the same page.

Cat still got your fingers all clawed up to type something about this???
Got a feeling good 'ol boy Drake is gonna disappear pretty soon.
Seems most Drake supporters sense this as well.

1) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ftr/2012/05/03/freedom-reigns-with-deatra-drake-and-roger
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wq1SQcSLqg&feature=related
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp62TWaVpOE

Those that are deceived, are those that have agreed to be deceived - turiya

-*-

[Dennis Leahy]

Noticed that this thread has become awfully quiet in the last couple days... mmm...
What's up Drake supporters... cat got your fingers tied up?Seriuosly, dude, let people make their own discoveries and work through the info/disinfo without rubbing people's noses in sh!t. OK?

The only thing missing from your post was "nya nya nya nyan yaaaaaaa!" and sticking your tongue out.

Mocking people shows a disappointingly low level of compassion. I don't see your age displayed, but hope you are very young - and that you'll mature and lose the apparent need for belittling others.

Dennis

[aranuk]

I absolutely agree with you Dennis. Well said.

Stan

[Kimberley]

Noticed that this thread has become awfully quiet in the last couple days... mmm...
What's up Drake supporters... cat got your fingers tied up?Seriuosly, dude, let people make their own discoveries and work through the info/disinfo without rubbing people's noses in sh!t. OK?

The only thing missing from your post was "nya nya nya nyan yaaaaaaa!" and sticking your tongue out.

Mocking people shows a disappointingly low level of compassion. I don't see your age displayed, but hope you are very young - and that you'll mature and lose the apparent need for belittling others.

Dennis

YES YES YES YES.. I CONCUR WITH THIS MESSAGE FROM DENNIS!!!!

Much love to us ALL!!!

[Kimberley]

Hey what do you all think of this message Published on May 28, 2012 by Randy Maugans

I have personally not bumped into Randy until now/today.... so have no past experience with him or his messages... However I really like this message a lot..

What are your thoughts?????

Much love to us all!!!

GvHpvRkwe18

[Chester]

I absolutely agree with you Dennis. Well said.

Stan

I value too greatly my membership in Avalon to say what I wanna say... so you can imagine what I would like to say.

[D-Day]

I absolutely agree with you Dennis. Well said.

Stan

I value too greatly my membership in Avalon to say what I wanna say... so you can imagine what I would like to say.

Good call, there are a lot of very delicate, precious, little flowers around here who might get upset if people start calling spades... spades.
Personally, I think the Scooby Gang - errr Drake Supporters - need to harden up a little and take what's coming to them.
Seriously, a lot of you folks started and/or perpetuated thread, after thread, after thread, after thread on that guy (Drake) and his BS and we've all had to wade through that crap for nearly 2 months now.
I wonder if any of you realise how infuriating it's been for some of us during that time, watching you all get your knickers in a twist over what many of us could plainly see was outright nonsense.
Can you guys imagine how many tooth marks some of us have on our tongues from biting them (frequently) because we didn't want to offend any of you or hurt your feelings?
Surely a little bit of "blowback" and a few jabs here or there is to be expected and won't hurt any of you (much).
Sorry, but I think you're all going to have to accept the fact that some of us are still a little testy/annoyed/frustrated/irritated/bewildered by what's gone down.
So deal with it.

There... I said it.

Now, feel free to get defensive and have a little meltdown over it if you feel the need.

I've said what I needed to say, vented my spleen, and now I'm done.

[StarDust]

I absolutely agree with you Dennis. Well said.

Stan

I value too greatly my membership in Avalon to say what I wanna say... so you can imagine what I would like to say.

Good call, there are a lot of very delicate, precious, little flowers around here who might get upset if people start calling spades... spades.
Personally, I think the Scooby Gang - errr Drake Supporters - need to harden up a little and take what's coming to them.
Seriously, a lot of you folks started and/or perpetuated thread, after thread, after thread, after thread on that guy (Drake) and his BS and we've all had to wade through that crap for nearly 2 months now.
I wonder if any of you realise how infuriating it's been for some of us during that time, watching you all get your knickers in a twist over what many of us could plainly see was outright nonsense.
Can you guys imagine how many tooth marks some of us have on our tongues from biting them (frequently) because we didn't want to offend any of you or hurt your feelings?
Surely a little bit of "blowback" and a few jabs here or there is to be expected and won't hurt any of you (much).
Sorry, but I think you're all going to have to accept the fact that some of us are still a little testy/annoyed/frustrated/irritated/bewildered by what's gone down.
So deal with it.

There... I said it.

Now, feel free to get defensive and have a little meltdown over it if you feel the need.

I've said what I needed to say, vented my spleen, and now I'm done.

If you don't believe in the nature of certain threads/ideas/actions, then why not stay away from the conversation. It is clear that you love to stir the pot by creating chaotic wakes without adding substance.

[D-Day]

It is clear that you love to stir the pot by creating chaotic wakes without adding substance.

Well, I guess that's a matter of perspective and would depend largely on how you define the term "adding substance".

If adding substance involves "parroting" a bunch of 2nd hand information (unverified, nonsensical information usually) that I picked up from the latest alternative media guru/celebrity/mouthpiece and attempting to pass it off as certified, verified, legitimate truth or fact... then yes, I suppose one could say that I don't add much substance to this forum.

[StarDust]

It is clear that you love to stir the pot by creating chaotic wakes without adding substance.

Well, I guess that's a matter of perspective and would depend largely on how you define the term "adding substance"
If adding substance involves "parroting" a bunch of 2nd hand information (unverified, nonsensical information usually) that I picked up from the latest alternative media guru/celebrity/mouthpiece and attempting to pass it off as certified, verified, legitimate truth or fact... then yes, I suppose one could say that I don't add much substance to this forum.

There is no parroting in my message as it is a direct communique from where I originate. [ Mod-edit: insults removed. -Paul. ]

[ThePythonicCow]

If you don't believe in the nature of certain threads/ideas/actions, then why not stay away from the conversation.
One way to lower the value of a forum such as this is to let it be overrun with the disinformation, distractions and disipience that is all about us.


It is clear that you love to stir the pot by creating chaotic wakes without adding substance.
Careful ... that's the sort of direct ad hominem retort up with which the mods sometimes do not put.

[ThePythonicCow]

[ Mod-edit: insults removed. -Paul. ]
I removed some insults from the above post. I've had enough of that.

[ThePythonicCow]

Apparently I closed this thread with my last post above. Must have been a Freudian slip :). Re-opening.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I absolutely agree with you Dennis. Well said.

Stan

I value too greatly my membership in Avalon to say what I wanna say... so you can imagine what I would like to say.

Good call, there are a lot of very delicate, precious, little flowers around here who might get upset if people start calling spades... spades.
Personally, I think the Scooby Gang - errr Drake Supporters - need to harden up a little and take what's coming to them.
Seriously, a lot of you folks started and/or perpetuated thread, after thread, after thread, after thread on that guy (Drake) and his BS and we've all had to wade through that crap for nearly 2 months now.
I wonder if any of you realise how infuriating it's been for some of us during that time, watching you all get your knickers in a twist over what many of us could plainly see was outright nonsense.
Can you guys imagine how many tooth marks some of us have on our tongues from biting them (frequently) because we didn't want to offend any of you or hurt your feelings?
Surely a little bit of "blowback" and a few jabs here or there is to be expected and won't hurt any of you (much).
Sorry, but I think you're all going to have to accept the fact that some of us are still a little testy/annoyed/frustrated/irritated/bewildered by what's gone down.
So deal with it.

There... I said it.

Now, feel free to get defensive and have a little meltdown over it if you feel the need.

I've said what I needed to say, vented my spleen, and now I'm done.

I think people are allowed to make mistakes. And we should treat our brothers and sisters kindly when they do. There is no need to "get back at them" or make sure everyone recognizes who is right and wrong. I ask for Grace. And I hope others will be as kind to me when I am wrong. Even when (especially when) I have been obnoxious about it.

Peace.

[markpierre]

I like the drama....

[Fred Steeves]

I think people are allowed to make mistakes. And we should treat our brothers and sisters kindly when they do. There is no need to "get back at them" or make sure everyone recognizes who is right and wrong. I ask for Grace. And I hope others will be as kind to me when I am wrong. Even when (especially when) I have been obnoxious about it.

Peace.

Amen brother, well said.

[D-Day]

I think people are allowed to make mistakes. And we should treat our brothers and sisters kindly when they do. There is no need to "get back at them" or make sure everyone recognizes who is right and wrong. I ask for Grace. And I hope others will be as kind to me when I am wrong. Even when (especially when) I have been obnoxious about it.

Peace.


Hi there Whiskey-Mystic,

Thanks for the wake up call/gentle kick up the backside ;)

You're right, of course, and I will concede that a few of my more recent postings have had somewhat of a "harsh twang" to them. Upon reflection, it's clear that I allowed my feelings of frustration to get the better of me, leading to the unfortunate tirade many of you witnessed above. I apologise to anybody who read my comments and took offense, feeling that my words were intended as an insult to them, or to make them feel uncomfortable/unwelcome here on this forum.

While I agree that I didn't handle myself in the most appropriate manner, it would be fair to say that (out in the real world at least) I am known for being a very honest, genuine, strong-willed, and passionate person . I'm not going to use any of that as an excuse for my "sledge-hammer approach" to posting over the past 24 hours, but it may at least give some of you a bit of insight into what I'm like as a person and why I was so brutally honest/blunt in some of those recent postings.

Having said that, I must also point out that when I see my brothers and sisters being taken for a ride despite ongoing efforts by their peers to steer them in the right direction, I can't help but feel a little agitated, annoyed, and to some degree, disheartened. This is particularly so when I see them fighting tooth and nail (with their own brothers and sisters) to defend the latest hero/guru/saviour that has decided to infiltrate our community in an effort to gain publicity, notoriety, or to feed their egos, their cheque books, or whatever else might be motivating them at the time.

Add to that the fact that I've witnessed a fairly constant procession of "mass dupings" during the 1 and-a-bit years I've been a member here and you can probably understand why I've become somewhat concerned by the obvious impact each new onslaught seems to have on this forum and its membership. It's probably also worth noting that I've observed quite a large number of my fellow Avalonian's who seem to fall victim to these kind of scenarios on a regular basis. For reasons that I can't understand, some of these individuals seem to keep making the same mistakes repeatedly, and for me at least it's becoming painfully difficult to watch them having the wool pulled over their eyes again and again without any sign of them learning from their previous misjudgements.

In any case, it's clear to me now that I can't just go around "cyber-whacking" people over the back of the head whenever I feel like they are using poor judgement. With that in mind, I'm happy to accept full responsibility for my actions and I humbly apologise to anyone who may have taken offense to comments that I made over the past 24 hours. If you are one such person, please know that it was not my intention to deliberately upset you. I did what I did because sometimes I have a tendency to get a little over zealous when I'm feeling passionate about something and also because deep down I really do hate to see my brothers and sisters being deceived and/or manipulated.

Some of you may choose to ignore this apology, and I accept the fact that this may be the case. Unfortunately I can't take back anything that I've already said, but I do hope that at the very least this post will help some of you to better understand who I am, what I'm about, and where I'm coming from.

[markpierre]

Some of you may choose to ignore this apology, and I accept the fact that this may be the case. Unfortunately I can't take back anything that I've already said, but I do hope that at the very least this post will help some of you to better understand who I am, what I'm about, and where I'm coming from.

Hmmm...apologies are nice. But if we aren't allowed to say what we're thinking without censuring ourselves, how are we going to know what we're thinking?
Tolerance and acceptance within certain parameters is small and part of the box, but that's what we agreed to. And it has to work both ways or it isn't working,
otherwise screw it.
We didn't agree to never disagree.

I got a bit more of you, and I liked it. Thanks

[D-Day]

Hmmm...apologies are nice. But if we aren't allowed to say what we're thinking without censuring ourselves, how are we going to know what we're thinking?
Tolerance and acceptance within certain parameters is small and part of the box, but that's what we agreed to. And it has to work both ways or it isn't working,
otherwise screw it.
We didn't agree to never disagree.

I got a bit more of you, and I liked it. Thanks


Hi markpierre,

Yeah, I felt I had been a bit of a douche - hence the apology.
But you're absolutely right, people should feel welcome to express themselves freely on this forum.
The important thing to keep in mind however, is not so much what is being expressed but rather the manner in which it is being expressed.
It's all about the delivery, and some of us here are clearly more skillrd in this area than others.
The ability to disagree with someone's opinion in a measured and respectful manner is most certainly the key here.
I intend to work on this myself, as well as learning to be a little more forgiving, compassionate, and less cynical to boot.
There's always work to be done, and I've got plenty to keep me occupied if you know what I mean ;)
Having said that, I know for a fact that I'm kinda preaching to the converted here.
I've read many of your previous posts, markpierre, and it's clear you have already mastered the art of subtlty and redpectfulness.
Albeit with an occasional dose of cheekiness mixed in here and there just for good measure ;)

[markpierre]

Hi markpierre,

Yeah, I felt I had been a bit of a douche - hence the apology.
But you're absolutely right, people should feel welcome to express themselves freely on this forum.
The important thing to keep in mind however, is not so much what is being expressed but rather the manner in which it is being expressed.
It's all about the delivery, and some of us here are clearly more skillrd in this area than others.
The ability to disagree with someone's opinion in a measured and respectful manner is most certainly the key here.
I intend to work on this myself, as well as learning to be a little more forgiving, compassionate, and less cynical to boot.
There's always work to be done, and I've got plenty to keep me occupied if you know what I mean ;)
Having said that, I know for a fact that I'm kinda preaching to the converted here.
I've read many of your previous posts, markpierre, and it's clear you have already mastered the art of subtlty and redpectfulness.
Albeit with an occasional dose of cheekiness mixed in here and there just for good measure ;)

I heard passion. Nothing else. Don't be so sure there was anything else. Words only communicate ideas through filters and into other filters.
What I 'heard' was that you're watching out for me. What I 'felt' was I want you in my foxhole,
if it comes to that.
And it could.
Intention communicates intention. 'By their works ye shall know them'?
Well you better bloody well be willing to accept them as well. Warts and farts and everything. I lace my verbal conversations with expletives whenever I can, because that's the way I think.
Not with old ladies or children, but with 'spiritual identities'? You bet.

I've also mastered the art of belligerent dickhead. I just don't waste it on you guys.

[D-Day]

Hi markpierre,

Yeah, I felt I had been a bit of a douche - hence the apology.
But you're absolutely right, people should feel welcome to express themselves freely on this forum.
The important thing to keep in mind however, is not so much what is being expressed but rather the manner in which it is being expressed.
It's all about the delivery, and some of us here are clearly more skillrd in this area than others.
The ability to disagree with someone's opinion in a measured and respectful manner is most certainly the key here.
I intend to work on this myself, as well as learning to be a little more forgiving, compassionate, and less cynical to boot.
There's always work to be done, and I've got plenty to keep me occupied if you know what I mean ;)
Having said that, I know for a fact that I'm kinda preaching to the converted here.
I've read many of your previous posts, markpierre, and it's clear you have already mastered the art of subtlty and redpectfulness.
Albeit with an occasional dose of cheekiness mixed in here and there just for good measure ;)

I heard passion. Nothing else. Don't be so sure there was anything else. Words only communicate ideas through filters and into other filterers.
Intention communicates intention. 'By their works ye shall know them'?
Well you better bloody well be willing to accept them as well. Warts and farts and everything.

I've also mastered the art of belligerent dickhead. I just don't waste it on you guys.

Careful now, or you may just turn me back to the dark side ;)
Also, let me just say that you're one funny mofo mp!
Thanks for the good laugh mate.

[markpierre]

Hi markpierre,

Yeah, I felt I had been a bit of a douche - hence the apology.
But you're absolutely right, people should feel welcome to express themselves freely on this forum.
The important thing to keep in mind however, is not so much what is being expressed but rather the manner in which it is being expressed.
It's all about the delivery, and some of us here are clearly more skillrd in this area than others.
The ability to disagree with someone's opinion in a measured and respectful manner is most certainly the key here.
I intend to work on this myself, as well as learning to be a little more forgiving, compassionate, and less cynical to boot.
There's always work to be done, and I've got plenty to keep me occupied if you know what I mean ;)
Having said that, I know for a fact that I'm kinda preaching to the converted here.
I've read many of your previous posts, markpierre, and it's clear you have already mastered the art of subtlty and redpectfulness.
Albeit with an occasional dose of cheekiness mixed in here and there just for good measure ;)

I heard passion. Nothing else. Don't be so sure there was anything else. Words only communicate ideas through filters and into other filterers.
Intention communicates intention. 'By their works ye shall know them'?
Well you better bloody well be willing to accept them as well. Warts and farts and everything.

I've also mastered the art of belligerent dickhead. I just don't waste it on you guys.

Careful now, or you may just turn me back to the dark side ;)
Also, let me just say that you're one funny mofo mp!
Thanks for the good laugh mate.

I added to that post Luke, you might appreciate it.

[foreverfan]

Latest Drake Update May 31, 2012 (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomreigns/2012/05/30/drake)

Pretty interesting for the first 30 minutes. Then questions are taken at 1:15.

[StarDust]

Lady Dragon needs to lay off of the caffeine:twitch:

[Creative Lorraine]

I'm surprised no one has stated what I'm about to Type
If they have I've missed it

1) Drake story had to be put out there with David Wilcock and Wolf Spirit Radio
To be conscious to the internet for people to be "Awake &Aware"
"Where your focus goes, energy flows."
2)Teaching people how to get involved in the community "HOPE"

3)A lot "Unemployed people" now addicted to the internet have more time on their hands
" Gaining knowledge"
4) Spreading the word "Change" even to the TV watchers
I don't care what you say / But for every TV watcher in a household there's
an internet addict to converse to the TV watcher whats really going on in the world
And for the people including myself conversing ( My boyfriend T V watcher )
YOU put it in there Head " Conscious "

5) Drake speaks of " A Plan" Maybe this is it?

6) [B]The People On This Planet Created What It Is!!

7) Drake is merely trying to let us all RECREATE the world with the
information he puts out.. It could be false information But now
it's in our Head " Conscious "

Well its late Everyone have a good one

Lorraine

[foreverfan]

Freedom Reigns Terri make so much sense. Is Terrorism really real? (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomreigns/2012/05/29/from-my-porch-alternative-perspectives)

[Avocadess]

SilentFeathers: Thanks for your clarification. Sorry to be so late in responding. Extraordinarily busy last week and this week with a residential move and now a new part-time job, etc. and my attention on these matters has been hit the most heavily! Yes, I agree with you that there is a certain portion of the population that might be easily led off to FEMA camps (though I wouldn't be one of them). Doesn't mean I think that is what is going to happen.

Actually, I really don't know what is going to happen, and the easiest guess it that it will not be without some short-term hardships -- but am putting out my "intent" as much as I can for a transformation that will be as peaceful and drama-free as possible!

tenacity1: You wrote, "I am shocked and very very disapointed to hear folks talk about those suffering from shock and trauma as 'Living off the system'. Have you ever walked a mile in their shoes and or perhaps considered how our govt and media has programmed many people to be beyond hope?"

I agree with you that it is really not right to judge these people. Trying to understand them is, I feel, the most important thing. I know I have had an unusually independence-fostering background and because of this I see people who view the system as there to "take care of" them as in an invisible prison in which I would find the air much too thin and/or suffocating...!

Regarding DRAKE: I am still a "supporter" of Drake, though I find his message somewhat weakened by his being co-hosted with Minute Man who sounds even more redneck-Southern than Drake (throwing all those ain'ts around and all is not even common in the places I have lived in Texas except by those who do it on purpose because they think it's "cool"). Lady Dragon seems very passionate and purposeful but between her accent and excitability she can be hard to understand or relate to. Interesting combination, Drake, Minute Man and Lady Dragon, but eh...not really either, at least not to really get somewhere with the message beyond what has already been said. Also wish Lady Dragon would learn to restrain her tongue on the radio to skipping the use of four-letter words. Each of those three personalities seem to me to be dynamic in and of themselves and capable of having their own radio shows -- but together on one show? No, I don't think this is the "dream team" or anywhere near it.

Would be nice to have someone with a New York or New Jersey accent on with Drake to help balance off his semi-extreme back-woods-style expressionism and help people relate to what he (they) are saying.

Yes, it is true that Drake has pushed up the dealine 2-3 weeks from May 30th, which would take us all the way to June 20. Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but a matter of weeks is NOTHING to me and I really don't see the big sticking point there. If he were saying this year and then next year and then year after that then I too would be getting impatient.

Another reason I am NOT so impatient is that the more I reflect on the whole upcoming scenario the more I feel "stage fright" about it; that is, I still want it to happen and I still consider it for the best and it will be good, but I also realize there will be a time of confusion, some people may panic and so on, and that part I am so NOT looking forward to that waiting a few more weeks feels more like a relief to me. And it gives me more time to stock up on some necessities.

I am VERY curious what we may be hearing from Drake next Wednesday on his radio show. It will be June 6th, and times seem to get ever more interesting. I just heard that Mubarak (the Egyptian dictator) was just sentenced to life in prison and that there is now rioting in Egypt because so many want him to be executed -- and yet others want him freed. (Not my idea of a good time, things like that!!!)

Yet, I know we MUST move out of the STUCK mode our country and our world has been in for centuries. Change MUST happen in a big way. I'm just doing my best to digest the information I am picking up on that feels authentic, honest, helpful and insightful. The messenger is NOT my main priority; the MESSAGE is the main priority.

I'm expecting a huge crunchj of work the next few days so may not be able to drop by again until Thursday or even Friday.

Have the best day EVER..!!!

Avocadess

[Kimberley]

Ok folks....

I am part of the Bill Bill Wood/ Brockbrader group on face book
https://www.facebook.com/groups/320738794639382/


Found this post...and have confirmed it is true.....you might be interested in the 40 + comments also....


FYI, Drake has been kicked out of/banned from the Freedom Reigns group. Thus if you wish to continue following his updates, you will need to join his new group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/137466796377979/

Perhaps now that Drake has wised up to some things, he and Bill Brockbrader can have a good heart to heart and rejoin efforts. I'm visualizing a renewed relationship, stronger than ever, IF it's for the higher good of Bill and Eva! ♥


Here is Drakes new official web site:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/

Here is yesterdays radio show "Welcome Drake and Company" it tells about the story of leaving Freedom Reigns....

http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[Avocadess]

Thanks so much for that breaking news, Kimberley!!

MUST share with you this very sweet less-than-2-minute video by young Ashton. His parents wrote,


"Today I heard my 6 year old son Ashton talking with some of his Galactic friends from upstairs. He was celebrating with them the ending of the war as he described it and the Federation of Free Worlds. When I went into the living room where Ashton was sitting he started telling me how we need to spread this message to the people around the world, that we are all free now. I then asked him if he would like to do a video so we could share this message. Here is what he had to say. -- Love to all, Ashton & Joe" --


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8OQXIAlrU


Thanks for that EXCELLENT announcement, Ashton...!!! Woo-Hoo!!


***************************************************************************************

Speaking of Bill Brockbrader --

I never got around to writing to Bill Brockbrader (aka Bill Wood) due to my move, so planning to write him a letter today. Anyone who would like to write him with your support, his address again in jail awaiting trial is:

William Brockbrader 1046233 CO
ADA County Jail
7210 Barrister Drive
Boise Idaho 83704

It would be especially helpful to him if you will write the letter with the jury in mind -- that is, write a letter informing Bill (and the jury) why you support him and praise him for what he is doing and your belief -- if it is your belief, as it is mine -- that he is truly serving his country. This is costing him and he is facing it head on. He could have evaded arrest but chose not to because he believes that when he wins this case it will make it MUCH easier and safer for others who have worked in BLACK PROJECTS (that is, projects of the Shadow Government that serve the controlling elite and NOT the people of the United States or of any other country).

Wishing you all the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

Daily blog: http://avocadess.com/door2

[SilentFeathers]

Does any one even know what the charges are against Bill Wood??????

[Kimberley]

Does any one even know what the charges are against Bill Wood??????

I do not know ...and I have tried to know/understand what the charges are and have not found the answer...YET :-) I will report when I do>>>I have been trying... I have the same question.

Much love!!! :grouphug:

[we-R-one]

Bill was charged with failing to register as a sex offender and failure to update his registration in the District of Idaho. He turned himself in, he wasn't arrested.

[Kimberley]

How do you know this?? What is the proof of this??

Just asking?

Much love!!


Bill was charged with failing to register as a sex offender and failure to update his registration in the District of Idaho and I believe the state of Nevada. He turned himself in, he wasn't arrested.

[we-R-one]

How do you know this?? What is the proof of this??

Just asking?

Much love!!


Bill was charged with failing to register as a sex offender and failure to update his registration in the District of Idaho and I believe the state of Nevada. He turned himself in, he wasn't arrested.

I saw the criminal complaint which was filed on May 11, 2012. I believe he turned himself in around May 22 or May 24.

[we-R-one]

I don't feel it's right to post the complaint as there's private information within, so I guess until more info comes out you guys are just going to have to trust me.

Correction Edit: I believe I was incorrect about Nevada, just the state of Idaho.

[LarryC]

Drake has been banned from Freedom Reigns? That is really bizarre if true considering that the main purpose of the group (at least the Facebook version) was to talk about Drake's "plan." So far, I haven't seen any mention of this on the Freedom Reigns FB page. This wouldn't entirely surprise me, though, as the page is quite heavily censored- quite ironic considering the group's name. I joined it enthusiastically after hearing Drake, but haven't spent much time there lately after all the bickering and deleted posts. It's all starting to look like an alternative soap opera with so many factions and disagreements!

[we-R-one]

FYI, Drake has been kicked out of/banned from the Freedom Reigns group. Thus if you wish to continue following his updates, you will need to join his new group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/137466796377979/

Here is Drakes new official web site:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/

Here is yesterdays radio show "Welcome Drake and Company" it tells about the story of leaving Freedom Reigns....

http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

OMG, I've listened to the first 17 min. and I had to shut it off, what a horrible broadcast....are they for real??? I'm sorry, but I can't even take these guys seriously. No offense, I appreciate you posting the info though.

[Maunagarjana]

I listened to Drake do a show for Freedom Reigns on May 30th. And on the Freedom Reigns site it says Drake is scheduled to do an update show with Deatra on Wednesday. So I would think the rumors of a falling out with Freedom Reigns for him are (as he would call it) horse hockey. But I could be wrong. The quality of the shows have gone down lately. I'll check up on the links in this thread and see about it.

[modwiz]

Regarding DRAKE: I am still a "supporter" of Drake, though I find his message somewhat weakened by his being co-hosted with Minute Man who sounds even more redneck-Southern than Drake (throwing all those ain'ts around and all is not even common in the places I have lived in Texas except by those who do it on purpose because they think it's "cool"). Lady Dragon seems very passionate and purposeful but between her accent and excitability she can be hard to understand or relate to. Interesting combination, Drake, Minute Man and Lady Dragon, but eh...not really either, at least not to really get somewhere with the message beyond what has already been said. Also wish Lady Dragon would learn to restrain her tongue on the radio to skipping the use of four-letter words. Each of those three personalities seem to me to be dynamic in and of themselves and capable of having their own radio shows -- but together on one show? No, I don't think this is the "dream team" or anywhere near it.
Have the best day EVER..!!!

Avocadess

I am a New Yorker. I worked in Manhattan for years. I want to tell my Southern brothers and sisters I welcome their passion for their country. We need them, because it's time to "Git 'er done." I hope Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have disabused non-Southerners of the notion that the intelligence gene doesn't exist South of the Mason-Dixon line. Washington DC excepted.

The lies about the South spread by Northern media to allow for support of the civil war are the same kind of lies told about Iran today. Same interests too.

Avocadess, I know you intended nothing mean spirited by your statements. We do need to shatter programming that feeds divide and conquer strategies.

We need people who know how to shoot and have the gonads and passion to mean it. Many of these people still shoot to help feed families. City folk need them in ways they do not yet understand. Food comes from the ground and the woods, not supermarkets.

[modwiz]

Drake has been banned from Freedom Reigns? That is really bizarre if true considering that the main purpose of the group (at least the Facebook version) was to talk about Drake's "plan." So far, I haven't seen any mention of this on the Freedom Reigns FB page. This wouldn't entirely surprise me, though, as the page is quite heavily censored- quite ironic considering the group's name. I joined it enthusiastically after hearing Drake, but haven't spent much time there lately after all the bickering and deleted posts. It's all starting to look like an alternative soap opera with so many factions and disagreements!

Something of value shows up. It is infiltrated. Money is needed, as usual. Money is provided by the usual suspects, and before you know it.........infected with the virus and now a part of the problem rather than the solution. Drake getting thrown out could very well be a sign of him being the real deal. Or just the opposite.

I keep following and paying attention without favoring my forward or backward foot. Any signal I can see means others can too. That would not be wise right now.

[StarDust]

I listened to Drake do a show for Freedom Reigns on May 30th. And on the Freedom Reigns site it says Drake is scheduled to do an update show with Deatra on Wednesday. So I would think the rumors of a falling out with Freedom Reigns for him are (as he would call it) horse hockey. But I could be wrong. The quality of the shows have gone down lately. I'll check up on the links in this thread and see about it.

Drake and Deatra clearly state that they have left Freedom Reigns at about the 27:00 mark of the new show out today on Global Voice Radio. Deatra stated that she resigned for her own reasons.

[Kimberley]

*********************

I had not seen this thread until just a few minutes ago... so bringing it to your attention if you have not seen it...

Let’s help Drake & Co! “Ask not what… snip… ask what you can do for your country” JFK

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44759-Let--s-help-Drake-Co----Ask-not-what---snip---ask-what-you-can-do-for-your-country---JFK

And this post from qbeac belongs here as it is important:


The following is a wonderful proposal which is completely compatible and complimentary with the proposal of this thread which encourages as many regular people as possible to send a polite e-mail to as many military and high level personnel as possible to inform them about Drake & Co.’s plan to arrest the elite and ask them to support it.

(Note: The instructions to find thousands of public e-mail address of military personnel and high level people using a simple google search are in Post #1, #2, and #3 of this thread).

Soldier hugs web site ------ Check it out -----AWESOME!
Tuesday, June 5, 2012
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com.es/

John,

Hello.

I created a website platform in support of Drake´s broadcasts and is intended to Unite all US citizens and other peoples of the planet in the support of the Mass Arrests of Cabal Criminals. You can help send a message to our Brave Men & Women in uniform and let them know our collective free will and command for Freedom, Sovereignty, and Common Law.

I was inspired to create this site via a very strong spiritual message I received about 3 weeks ago and it hit me like a "freight train", sort of like a voice inside my head urging me to do it...

My intent of the site is to serve as another link in the support chain by creating a platform of "collective voice and action" for this cause. It was my intent to try and create something that would in fact "evoke" and emotional response and hence help to unite all of us under one common and undeniable truth that we all share the same fate and position as US citizens.

By creating and aggregating this unified support wave, it was my intent that this serve as an observable communication channel to all US military personnel from the standpoint of love and support as opposed to conflict and strife.

Please visit www.soldierhugs.com and create a "SoldierHUG" and send a message and command to our Brave military men and women to arrest these criminals that threaten us from within and here at home.

Thank you and if you like it and agree with it, please help to share it far and wide.

Thank you,

Aaron

Soldier Hugs Admin www.soldierhugs.com

Posted by John MacHaffie at 1:32 PM 0 comments

[Fred Steeves]

I hope Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have disabused non-Southerners of the notion that the intelligence gene doesn't exist South of the Mason-Dixon line. Washington DC excepted.


Now wait just a minute there Rad. As a Southerner myself, I'm thinking you could have come up with a couple of better examples of southern intelligence than these two characters. Really? I mean come on now, that's like saying George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are two examples of Northern intelligence.

I do appreciate you sticking up for us though, cause a country boy can survive.:cool:

I4s0nzsU1Wg

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[Kimberley]

Next Drake and Company program this Wednesday June 6th, 2012 right here on the Global Voice Radio Network. Drake live at 7: pm ET, 6: PM CT, 5: PM MT and 4: PM Pacific time.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624/welcome_drake_and_company

[SilentFeathers]

Looks as though Bill Wood is still in jail (related to a 1998 statutory rape charge/conviction)

....also Deatra Loomer (Drakes radio friend/partner was arrested April 18, 2012).

Deatra Marie Loomer, 46, of 30276 Old Highway 41 in Okolona, was arrested April 18 by LCSO and charged with felonious false pretense. She was released on a $2,500 bond.

http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=16670


Seems the only mass arrests that are happening are within their own circle !

Why would Drake, Mr. Insider with the "Plan", associate with someone like Deatra with more aliases than a Vaudeville stage extra?

Deatra M Brown Alturas, CA | 46 years old (Aliases)

Aliases Deatra M Brown | Moore D Brown | D Brown | Moore Deatra Brown | Deatra Marie Brown | D Brown | Deatra Brown | Deatra M Brownmoore | Deatra Eichinger | Deatra M Loomer | D Loomer | Deatra Brown Moore | Deatra Moore | Deatra M Perkes | Deatra M Ramirez | Deatra Ramirez | Deatra M Shaw | D White | Deatra M White | Deatra White

Some pretty shady and questionable characters in my opinion......but who says you need to be a saint to usher in the golden age huh?

sheesh! I wonder what skeletons Drake has hiding in his closet?

Come June 20th or so and they delay these mass arrests again what will be there excuse this time? Perhaps they need Wilcock to step back in and help them out with his power of consciousness to prevent any more delays.....

I know I'm being sarcastic, but this is beyond ridiculous....what interest booster celebrities comes next after Lady Dragon and the Minuteman? Larry, Moe, and Curly reincarnated as the 3 Musketeers?

[gripreaper]

Oh Boy, what is going on?

Bill Brockbrader says (from jail) that the mass arrests are not going to happen, and cannot happen, because of the infighting in the alternate media. He does not implicate Avalon directly, but you can listen to this for yourself:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/Bill_Wood/2012-06-04-TR-Bill-Woods-with-Melt-Esquibel.mp3

AND, all at the same time as Drake leaving Freedom Reigns? AND Fulford is saying in his blurb that "negotiations" are underway? AND Wilcock is silent and has not chimed in?

All as Venus is about to transit the sun in about an hour...

[SilentFeathers]

Oh Boy, what is going on?

Bill Brockbrader says (from jail) that the mass arrests are not going to happen, and cannot happen, because of the infighting in the alternate media. He does not implicate Avalon directly, but you can listen to this for yourself:

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/Bill_Wood/2012-06-04-TR-Bill-Woods-with-Melt-Esquibel.mp3

AND, all at the same time as Drake and Diedra leaving Freedom Reigns? AND Fulford is saying in his blurb that "negotiations" are underway? AND Wilcock is silent and has not chimed in?

All as Venus is about to transit the sun in about an hour...

It's amazing that a few people infighting in the alternative media is more powerful than all those secret dudes in the pentagon and the power of the US military....

What a joke!

[RMorgan]

It's amazing that a few people infighting in the alternative media is more powerful than all those secret dudes in the pentagon and the power of the US military....

What a joke!

Yeah...It´s a bad joke indeed.

Frankly, I wouldn´t even hire a man who is a convicted rapist (Bill Wood) or a woman convicted for felonious false pretense (Dietra) to work for my small company, so why would I trust their stories in the first place?

Even this Drake guy, who doesn´t reveal his true identity, very probably has a criminal record as well, like his pals.

I´m a very good sniffer and this whole thing smelled deception and scam since the first time I´ve read it.

Raf.

[gripreaper]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

[SilentFeathers]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

Don't forget to send him all your money too....

[we-R-one]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

LOL. Yeah....a corporate slave via his military i.d. number and all cap name is going to convince the corporate run court to restore the constitution through his case.......uh huh......and in the state of Idaho, oops I mean in THE STATE OF IDAHO, who has one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the country....IMO.

[SilentFeathers]

It's amazing how many people preach about "discernment" on this forum yet are quick to jump on the fairy train without one shred of evidence. I suppose in such times of uncertainty in which we are in people are hungry for anything that gives them hope.....

[we-R-one]

It's amazing how many people preach about "discernment" on this forum yet are quick to jump on the fairy train without one shred of evidence. I suppose in such times of uncertainty in which we are in people are hungry for anything that gives them hope.....

This is true, and I've been one of those people. You want the problem fixed sooo badly that you base decisions on emotions. Not making fun of anyone by any means as I've been there myself.

[TargeT]

It's amazing how many people preach about "discernment" on this forum yet are quick to jump on the fairy train without one shred of evidence. I suppose in such times of uncertainty in which we are in people are hungry for anything that gives them hope.....

This is true, and I've been one of those people. You want the problem fixed sooo badly that you base decisions on emotions. Not making fun of anyone by any means as I've been there myself.

The best way to learn how hot fire is is to burn oneself...

after that point you can't really fault the unburnt for being careless around flame, only shake your head in empathy for what is surely coming.

Don't be hard on those who had hope, they truly meant for the best.

[we-R-one]

It's amazing how many people preach about "discernment" on this forum yet are quick to jump on the fairy train without one shred of evidence. I suppose in such times of uncertainty in which we are in people are hungry for anything that gives them hope.....

This is true, and I've been one of those people. You want the problem fixed sooo badly that you base decisions on emotions. Not making fun of anyone by any means as I've been there myself.

The best way to learn how hot fire is is to burn oneself...

after that point you can't really fault the unburnt for being careless around flame, only shake your head in empathy for what is surely coming.

Don't be hard on those who had hope, they truly meant for the best.

Yes, more than anything I feel bad for those who have to learn this lesson. I felt this from day one when the whole Drake thing started. You know where it's going because you've been down this path before and you know no matter what you say, your warning won't be heard because like yourself each individual has to have the experience on their own in order to understand. So my heart does go out to those who are feeling the disappointment as things seem to continue to unravel. I've never wanted to be more wrong about something than this whole Drake scenario.

[gripreaper]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

LOL. Yeah....a corporate slave via his military i.d. number and all cap name is going to convince the corporate run court to restore the constitution through his case.......uh huh......and in the state of Idaho, oops I mean in THE STATE OF IDAHO, who has one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the country....IMO.

In 2009, The "Citizen's of Idaho" formed an unincorporated non profit (I've done my due diligence on this) and has standing outside the corporate STATE OF IDAHO and has invoked the jurisdiction of the state of Idaho de jure domicile of the original organic constitution of that state. I've also followed some of the indictments which have been attempted against the Citizens of Idaho and how they are typically dismissed. I think, without going into my archives, by following Michael James Anthony, who is helping a bunch of people do the "quiet title" actions on their foreclosures, (Boise) is where I originally followed this rabbit hole. It's been several months.

My guess, is this case wont even make it past jurisdiction, if jurisdiction is challenged. I doubt that the corporate STATE wants to bring this into the light of day, regardless of Brockbraders intent.

But stranger things have happened. Venus is transiting the sun as I write this.

[SilentFeathers]

Yeah, the Venus Transit is much more believable and backed by some pretty decent evidence that it is actually happening right now.

I've never believed much in the Drake series/drama.....but in the back of my mind I did have some hope that it would or could happen, I still do, anything is possible....but I never had much faith in this version of such a scenario....

I've done way too much research over the last 30 years or so to see such an event go down the way Drake describes it.......

It would be very different in my opinion (very chaotic and ugly) and stashing toilet paper would be the last thing on anyone's mind....

Added: I should of said; worrying about how much toilet paper you have stashed once all hell broke loose would be the last thing on any one's mind....

[gripreaper]

Yeah, the Venus Transit is much more believable and backed by some pretty decent evidence that it is actually happening right now.

I've never believed much in the Drake series/drama.....but in the back of my mind I did have some hope that it would or could happen, I still do, anything is possible....but I never had much faith in this version of such a scenario....

I've done way too much research over the last 30 years or so to see such an event go down the way Drake describes it.......

It would be very different in my opinion (very chaotic and ugly) and stashing toilet paper would be the last thing on anyone's mind....

Well, the reason I like the initiative in Idaho, is because it starts at the county level and is a bottom up approach. You cut the legs out from under the dragon, and when it falls over, then you cut the head off. It also requires all of us to get involved and take back our local counties, and then go to our respective states.

Drakes proposal of going after the dragon at the top, which has been in place for millennium , and has control of everything, did not seem plausible to me either.

[we-R-one]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

LOL. Yeah....a corporate slave via his military i.d. number and all cap name is going to convince the corporate run court to restore the constitution through his case.......uh huh......and in the state of Idaho, oops I mean in THE STATE OF IDAHO, who has one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the country....IMO.

In 2009, The "Citizen's of Idaho" formed an unincorporated non profit (I've done my due diligence on this) and has standing outside the corporate STATE OF IDAHO and has invoked the jurisdiction of the state of Idaho de jure domicile of the original organic constitution of that state. I've also followed some of the indictments which have been attempted against the Citizens of Idaho and how they are typically dismissed. I think, without going into my archives, by following Michael James Anthony, who is helping a bunch of people do the "quiet title" actions on their foreclosures, (Boise) is where I originally followed this rabbit hole. It's been several months.

My guess, is this case wont even make it past jurisdiction, if jurisdiction is challenged. I doubt that the corporate STATE wants to bring this into the light of day, regardless of Brockbraders intent.

But stranger things have happened. Venus is transiting the sun as I write this.

Yes I know Citizens of Idaho quite well as I was their promoter when they first came into the public eye. They have made many attempts to challenge the court system and it's always a work in progress, but what I've seen happen is delay after delay and sealed records from the public so results and any attempt at creating a precedence is thwarted. I am also familiar with Michael James and his work and enjoyed listening to him speak at some of the various patriot groups I've been involved with. On the negative side, I have also heard that his follow thru with clients has been less than stellar, so if you approach him, approach with caution. Lots of times these guys have the best intentions, but I find they are weak in business managment as they insist on doing everything themselves rather than hiring help. This is where the ego takes over and well intended individuals lose their battles due to mis-management. They need proteges and lots of them! Instead they want to withold the information so they have that commanding control and domination, the very thing we're trying to get away from, sigh......

Gary DeMott one of the co-founders of Citizens of Idaho is beyond brilliant! I sat and watched him spin circles around one of my attorney friends who represents a couple of Idaho cities in which we were trying to work with in order to help change their financial situations. It was quite comical. I'm not embarrassed to say this guy is over my head, lol, but I thoroughly enjoy listening to what he has to say. I kind of consider myself a mini protege thanks to his efforts. I use to tour quite a bit with COI as we were attempting to educate others throughout the state.

I believe their idea of forming Uniform Unicorporated Non-Profit organizations are the way to go. The point is not to demolish the de facto government, but to offer people an option outside of it, should they so choose. This is where their 9th Amendment proclamation comes in handy, and oh yes.....I do have one, all ready documented and submitted into the proper county and will use it if I ever find myself in need of proving to be outside the jurisdiction of the corporation. Part of the secret is you have to submit this before you get yourself in big trouble, not after...tends to have more potential for being effective, lol. If I remember correctly, there was a precedence set recently, 2010, in the state of Idaho, that states you couldn't submit the 9th Amendment affidavit as evidence once you've been charged and or convicted. I believe that might have been based on the work of Melt's case, the other co-founder of COI and an additional case where a similar attempt was being made to challenge jurisdiction. That tells you something about the effect of what is being attempted.....it definitely has the attention of the courts, lmao!

[gripreaper]

Thanks for your input on this we-R-one. Like I said, I have not followed what's going on in Idaho for quite some time, and have no idea if it is getting any traction. I do like what they are doing though.

[we-R-one]

It's gotta be from the bottom up not the other way around, it's the only way. I learned that through my involvement with the TT group. The problem is getting more involved. People still struggle with the responsibility of being a sovereign. They're still in savior mode, even many of the patriots.......it's like they're half awake, but not quite ready to take the plunge. Too many safety sally's running around.

[we-R-one]

So I've seen the courts in action, which is why I don't think Bill Brockbrader has much of a chance. His whistleblower status has made him a target and most likely they'll throw the book at him to discredit his character. This is how they dominate someone who's been mind-controlled. He will need lots of positive thoughts sent his way and I do wish him luck as his chances seem slim indeed to be running any kind of victory lap in the near future from what information I've seen.

[gripreaper]

So I've seen the courts in action, which is why I don't think Bill Brockbrader has much of a chance. His whistleblower status has made him a target and most likely they'll throw the book at him to discredit his character. This is how they dominate someone who's been mind-controlled. He will need lots of positive thoughts sent his way and I do wish him luck as his chances seem slim indeed to be running any kind of victory lap in the near future from what information I've seen.

Well, he took the plunge because he is backed by "Citizen's of Idaho" so it will be interesting to say the least. Someone somewhere needs to set a new precedent!

[we-R-one]

He is?? Does he all ready have a ninth done? This is news to me, now that would get my attention if he did! Hadn't heard this yet, so fill me in!

[we-R-one]

Actually Melt's case is the precedence, except the last I heard they had sealed the records, but hey I'd love to see more utilize their 9th's if they've have 'em.

[gripreaper]

He is?? Does he all ready have a ninth done? This is news to me, now that would get my attention if he did! Hadn't heard this yet, so fill me in!

Don't know if Brockbrader has his 9th done. that would be interesting, although no one asked. I listened to the whole two hours, not just the part where Brockbrader was calling in.

[we-R-one]

He is?? Does he all ready have a ninth done? This is news to me, now that would get my attention if he did! Hadn't heard this yet, so fill me in!

Don't know if Brockbrader has his 9th done. that would be interesting, although no one asked. I listened to the whole two hours, not just the part where Brockbrader was calling in.

Ok, just spoke to Melt briefly and Citizens of Idaho is going to be helping with his case. I want to be careful about what I post due to confidentiality and respect for Bill B. I'm very excited to see if they can create any kind of precedence through Bill's case.....it's not going to be easy. The concept of the 9th is new to many, so most will not be familiar or know of it's existence. Melt is still getting settled and awaiting more information as they're just in the initial stages of discovery.

[SilentFeathers]

If there's not gonna be any mass arrests, I guess the next best bet would be for the evil elite cabal to make a peace treaty with us!!!!!!!! LOL! more ridiculous crap from the "chosen ones" LOL! (this stuff cracks me up!)

Benjamin Fulford 6-5-12…”Cabal begins peace negotiations, detailed discussions begin”…[Kp..."Thank you for Bringing Light into this Process"]

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/benjamin-fulford-6-5-12-cabal-begins-peace-negotiations-detailed-discussions-begin-kp-thank-you-for-bringing-light-into-this-process/#more-11638


Cabal begins peace negotiations, detailed discussions begin

The cabal that illegally seized power in the Western world and attempted to set up a fascist world dictatorship known as the New World Order is trying to negotiate a peaceful transition to a saner planet. Although there is much we cannot discuss in order not to endanger ongoing negotiations, the talks are focusing on how to smoothly carry out a transition away from fossil fuels and nuclear energy and how to arrange a harmonious rapport between East, West, North and South.
It is not clear, however, if the families that own the US Federal Reserve Board are acting too late and offering too little to prevent a revolution against their secret government. It is also worth mentioning that the Bilderberger meeting that just ended has turned into a media distraction to draw attention away from the real secret meetings that are taking place, like the one planned for June 21st.

http://benjaminfulford.net/2012/06/05/cabal-begins-peace-negotiations-detailed-discussions-begin/

They are just making this crap up as they go folk's, using whatever they can find to make it sound interesting and "real".....I think they're freaking psychos, especially Fulford......

....as far as I'm concerned, this is a type of sorcery, nothing more in my opinion!!!!!!!!

Added: what's this peace treaty going to consist of? Are the cabal going to agree to label GMO foods from now on in the future! LOL! This is silly!

[Avocadess]

Some of this is a repeat of what Kimberley already wrote, but seems a good idea to post it today anyhow since Drake's new WEDNESDAY show on GLOBAL VOICE RADIO begins TODAY...!

"DRAKE AND COMPANY" is the name of Drake's new show on Wednesdays -- and now on Global Voice Radio. The show this afternoon (or evening, depending where you live in the U.S.) begins at 4 o'clock Pacific time / 5:00 p.m. Mountain time / 6:00 p.m. Central time / 7:00 p.m. Eastern time. Here is a link to listen to the show online:


http://yourtubenews.ning.com/forum/topics/drake-on



This show will begin to be simulcasted through other Internet radio shows (and whatever else may be available that I don't know about) as much as possible to help spread the word.


Drake explained on his first show on Global Voice Radio that he was given an ultimatum to submit to certain controls at Freedom Reigns (which I believe is run by Deatra) -- or leave. He left. (Yay!! Freedom Rules!) I was very disturbed about the kind of censoring of free speech that was happening at Freedom Reigns, so I'm personally VERY happy that Drake is no longer using them as the home from which his messages are directly broadcast. An effort is clearly being made NOT to drag Deatra or Freedom Reigns through the mud -- and if they/she wish(es) to simulcast Drake's program during important announcements it is expected to be made possible.


The host at GLOBAL VOICE NETWORK made a new "broadcast home" for Drake speedily, and Sunday's show was just to sort of announce that Drake's new shows will be on Wednesdays at this new home, which will be easy to remember since he was broadcasting on Wednesdays for the past couple or few weeks at the other link.


The show on Sunday was done in the form of a conference call and it is not clear to me whether this will be the ongoing format or not. If you listen to Sunday's show, I'll warn you that it starts off kind of spotty with a bit of dead air and lack of direction, chit-chat, jokes, etc. but 30 min or an hour into the show Drake goes into a nice monologue. Terri Hinkle was also on this show. It was said that a number of people have "left" Freedom Reigns -- by choice rather than by ultimatum.


Here again is a link to Sunday's show. Just click on PLAY by "Welcome Drake and Company":


http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624


One other important note: In the past Drake trusted Freedom Reigns implicitly; however, now that he has been asked to leave, Freedom Reigns is NO LONGER the "first and last word" on Drake and the information which Drake has been given to reveal and/or announce off the rooftops. My understanding is that Freedom Reigns website is no longer the place to check for 72-hour notice before the "Big Change" which will affect money temporarily -- and who knows what else. One place -- other than David Wilcock's site -- to get the 72-hour notice is DRAKE'S OWN WEBSITE is


www.AmericanNationalMilitia.com


I highly recommend bookmarking this website because if you are like me you will have trouble remembering the exact name. It's not American Militia but American National Militia.

Wishing you all the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

[Avocadess]

SilentFeathers: I haven't been able to decide on Benjamin Fulford yet. He is different and coming from a different perspective culturally than anything which I am familiar....so I am just waiting and watching him to see where it goes!

It's one of the interesting dynamics of life on Earth. A person could tell you or me the 100% truth as they know it -- and all swirled into that can come their own particular neuroses, quirks, mistakes and misunderstandings. I get a feeling about Fulford like that (if that makes any sense).

[Avocadess]

Added Note re Deatra: I was just given word that Deatra has come into legal problems apparently having to do with the money donated to Freedom Reigns website. This explains why Drake, Terri and others on the recent show on Global Voice were mentioning that none of them had ever received a penny for their involvement with Freedom Reigns. The implication is that the buck stopped at Deatra. I wish Deatra well, but am now also especially relieved to hear that Drake and Company are no longer part of the Freedom Reigns team. My belief is that The Plan which Drake has been a spokesman for is UNSINKABLE.

As young Ashton says, "We are FREE!" -- and maybe it will just take some key arrests and big transitions to "make it real" to the majority of the country and world. I very much appreciate that those who are strategizing this re-claiming of our Sovereignty are doing it in such a way to make it record-breaking peaceful as well as mind-blowing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8OQXIAlrU -- Ashton announces, "We are Free!"

[Chester]

It's amazing that a few people infighting in the alternative media is more powerful than all those secret dudes in the pentagon and the power of the US military....

What a joke!

Yeah...It´s a bad joke indeed.

Frankly, I wouldn´t even hire a man who is a convicted rapist (Bill Wood) or a woman convicted for felonious false pretense (Dietra) to work for my small company, so why would I trust their stories in the first place?

Even this Drake guy, who doesn´t reveal his true identity, very probably has a criminal record as well, like his pals.

I´m a very good sniffer and this whole thing smelled deception and scam since the first time I´ve read it.

Raf.

Howdy RMorgan... was wondering, would you consider hiring a guy who at age 31 knocked up a 14 year old girl?

[childs hood end]

If there's not gonna be any mass arrests, I guess the next best bet would be for the evil elite cabal to make a peace treaty with us!!!!!!!! LOL! more ridiculous crap from the "chosen ones" LOL! (this stuff cracks me up!)

Benjamin Fulford 6-5-12…”Cabal begins peace negotiations, detailed discussions begin”…[Kp..."Thank you for Bringing Light into this Process"]

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/benjamin-fulford-6-5-12-cabal-begins-peace-negotiations-detailed-discussions-begin-kp-thank-you-for-bringing-light-into-this-process/#more-11638


Cabal begins peace negotiations, detailed discussions begin

The cabal that illegally seized power in the Western world and attempted to set up a fascist world dictatorship known as the New World Order is trying to negotiate a peaceful transition to a saner planet. Although there is much we cannot discuss in order not to endanger ongoing negotiations, the talks are focusing on how to smoothly carry out a transition away from fossil fuels and nuclear energy and how to arrange a harmonious rapport between East, West, North and South.
It is not clear, however, if the families that own the US Federal Reserve Board are acting too late and offering too little to prevent a revolution against their secret government. It is also worth mentioning that the Bilderberger meeting that just ended has turned into a media distraction to draw attention away from the real secret meetings that are taking place, like the one planned for June 21st.

This is the same meeting stew webb is talking about on kerrys latest livestream...
A meeting of the bankers above the bilderbergs...

http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1120:stew-webb-livestream-update-today-12noon&catid=31&Itemid=218

[Avocadess]

Anyone having trouble listening to Drake's show (which started 35 min ago)?

After you go to: http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624/welcome_drake_and_company

you have to click on LISTEN and then click on ON AIR.

Or you can call in on the conference call: 805-399-1200 access code 153938#

[RMorgan]

Howdy RMorgan... was wondering, would you consider hiring a guy who at age 31 knocked up a 14 year old girl?

Hey mate,

Well, it would depend on when,where and how it happened.

The law is different in different cultures and times...

I just wouldn´t hire someone convicted for a serious crime.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Chester]

Howdy RMorgan... was wondering, would you consider hiring a guy who at age 31 knocked up a 14 year old girl?

Hey mate,

Well, it would depend on when,where and how it happened.

The law is different in different cultures and times...

I just wouldn´t hire someone convicted for a serious crime.

Cheers,

Raf.

Thanks Raf... I now understand what you are saying and yes, owning a business and then hiring folks is a tricky deal and sometimes its important to have basic guidelines. Ok Thanks I believe I misunderstood you initially, apologies.

EDIT: Oh and no I wasn't applying haha! Take Care

[Chester]

Quite an interesting 180 by Drake et al

ala Fulford...

can't wait for Avocades' recap!

Looks like a TRUCE! and an avoidance of apocalyptic war!

wow we are breaking out the toilet paper and stringing it up on the trees in the front yard in celebration!

ok... back to Drake

EDIT: it just started raining... the lady who owns the house I am staying at is really pissed off at the mess in yard and the trees and I DON'T CARE! cause I am celebrating!

[modwiz]

I hope Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have disabused non-Southerners of the notion that the intelligence gene doesn't exist South of the Mason-Dixon line. Washington DC excepted.


Now wait just a minute there Rad. As a Southerner myself, I'm thinking you could have come up with a couple of better examples of southern intelligence than these two characters. Really? I mean come on now, that's like saying George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are two examples of Northern intelligence.

I do appreciate you sticking up for us though, cause a country boy can survive.:cool:

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Cheers Mate,
Fred

George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are great examples of the type of Northern malevolence that creates 'facts' and 'history' through lies to achieve greedy gains. The slave owners were the 1% of the South and the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery or freeing people. Quite the opposite in fact.

My two picks are clearly men of intelligence. Political intelligence is an oxymoron so Carter's lack of it doesn't count.

So, who are your nominees since mine were so distasteful? :p

[modwiz]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

Bill is damaged goods. Might as well be a boxer that has taken a few too many to the head. Doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes you damaged in the head.

PS. I do not need anyone tediously stating his past. It is yesterdays news and on record. I am one of those forgiving types. Perhaps I'm damaged goods too. :p

[Chester]

Hang on Now. Brockbrader is saying he is going to restore the constitution through his case and he can convince a jury and the lawyers what's going on, and we need to write letters to him so he has a bunch of letters to submit to the jury, and convince everybody.

Bill is damaged goods. Might as well be a boxer that has taken a few too many to the head. Doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes you damaged in the head.

PS. I do not need anyone tediously stating his past. It is yesterdays news and on record. I am one of those forgiving types. Perhaps I'm damaged goods too. :p

I think there's lots more to what happened with Bill and this girl than has been reported... I think he got a bad rap there but that's what happens to folks who make themselves targets too. Its these insane laws as to how they are applied that's the actual criminal here. Satanists never even get charged much less convicted and a guy who was just over the 18 line has sex with a girl just under (both very willingly and quite natural) and he gets dubbed a sex offender - dickriculous to me.

[foreverfan]

I missed it... is Drake still creditable?

[Chester]

This is a major shift in the entire mass arrests scenario - it appears to be a "mutual surrender" in hopes of avoiding a global meltdown... I sure hope Avocades gets a decent synposis. There are lots of groups involved in this group meeting live on the internet. I sense at least 6 or 7 groups represented... almost like a meeting. One group was very dissatisfied and pulled their support of Drake a few minutes ago. I was interrupted several times during the "show."

They are taking some sort of "poll" from all these groups as to whether "we the people" will accept the truce proposal between the "military/militia good guys" and the "banksters" - so you can see there are three factions here. This poll is to be (hopefully) completed in just a few days.

This seems to be the key "news item" to come forth from this weeks "update."

justone

[Chester]

One thing I did hear that to me is quite significant is that there will still be some "executions." Also, there will be many folks to go to FEMA camps "for years and in some cases for life." This is part of the truce agreement.

I am sad that I was not part of the negotiation team as I would have informed the "good guys" and "we the people" that any executions will simply give freedom to the core entities that have likely taken over some of the chief "banksters" and thus the banksters have perhaps created their own escape route through this lack of understanding by the negotiating teams of "we the people" and the "military/militia good guys."

Feels like an opportunity slipping away and I am not satisfied at all whatsoever.

Guess some of us need to sharpen our knives once again for the long dark night of the soul soon to return likely in some far more elusive containers... unreal!

Looks like the show servers just crashed... I am getting some spinning thingie and no audio. Guess we'll have to wait for next week at 7 PM Wednesday (6 PM Central and 4PM Pacific).

[Arrowwind]

In the April 14th program with Drake and Deatra on Wolf Spirit radio, Drake said a couple things I never heard him say before that I find of interest. One is that included in the mass arrests will be "bad guys" in military. He said that the people doing this action to free our country are not affiliated with ANY group -- except that they are probably going to affiliate with the Native American group -- a tribal council -- that also deals with broken treaties, etc.


And we are actully suppose to believe this? No affiliation? No affiliation with ANY group? just walk in and arrest military people...? give me a break.

Oh yes, the Native Americans will save us.... the most repressed people on our continent, they are just gonna walk in with their tomahawks flyin and our military is gona let them do it.

[xbusymom]

I'm surprised no one has stated what I'm about to Type
If they have I've missed it

1) Drake story had to be put out there with David Wilcock and Wolf Spirit Radio
To be conscious to the internet for people to be "Awake &Aware"
"Where your focus goes, energy flows."
2)Teaching people how to get involved in the community "HOPE"

3)A lot "Unemployed people" now addicted to the internet have more time on their hands
" Gaining knowledge"
4) Spreading the word "Change" even to the TV watchers
I don't care what you say / But for every TV watcher in a household there's
an internet addict to converse to the TV watcher whats really going on in the world
And for the people including myself conversing ( My boyfriend T V watcher )
YOU put it in there Head " Conscious "

5) Drake speaks of " A Plan" Maybe this is it?

6) [B]The People On This Planet Created What It Is!!

7) Drake is merely trying to let us all RECREATE the world with the
information he puts out.. It could be false information But now
it's in our Head " Conscious "

Well its late Everyone have a good one

Lorraine


Very well said, Lorraine...


Avocadess said:
the more I reflect on the whole upcoming scenario the more I feel "stage fright" about it;

don't look at it from the fear angle... that's what TPTB are counting on...
“mmm, yessss- let them thiiinnkk it over and their imaginations will run away with them- MUHahhahaha!”



Bill Brockbrader says (from jail) that the mass arrests are not going to happen, and cannot happen, because of the infighting in the alternate media. He does not implicate Avalon directly, but you can listen to this for yourself:

What... so now WE are the cause of “the plan” not happening...

wow ! I agree with SilentFeathers... We must be really powerful... if the 'freedom fighters' check to see what we are doing before they make a move??


BUT... whether or not all of Drakes/Wilcocks/Fulfords' stuff is TRUE- doesn't make a bit of difference … if all of this hoopla is done strictly to get us up off our chairs and get out in the real world and DO Something... then it IS starting to gain momentum

... I am getting REAL info that SOMETHING in the big wide world is changing/ working to become different... 'we' are having an effect...!
here is a letter from my timebank manager...


To the extended TimeBank Family                  June 2, 2012
 

By way of official notice, Lisa Conlan has resigned as unpaid CEO and is closing out her role this coming week. Kathy Perlow has resigned as Co-Chairperson. I am reminded of the remarks of Fathr Charles Fahey when he took over Catholic Charities: "I have good news and bad news for you and they can both be summed up in two sentences: We have no money; all we have is each other."

Having read the Starfish and the Spider, it is clear that whether intentionally or not, we have been following the Starfish model. Cut off any segment of a Starfish and it is self-sufficient and complete. What is awesome is the number of TimeBank starfish out there who are alive and vibrant and growing.

The Lisa Conlan Starfish: Lisa is leaving because suddenly, the TimeBank birthed by the Parent Support Network of Rhode Island is receiving funding to scale up in ways that we had always hoped for.

The Kathy Perlow Starfish: Kathy is now taking on expanded responsibility at the Community Exchange TimeBank in Allentown  because TimeBanking will be playing an expanded role in a major palliative care initiative that the hospital has launched.

TimeBanks USA was created to be the incubator of a movement. Many have invested in a movement that none of us own and none of us can control. Community Weaver 2.0 was designed to continue that evolution by upgrading a proprietary software to an open source platform that would enlist the talents of the open source community. The Action Hub was an effort to create a space for collaboration that would propel that evolution to new stages and be the repository for past learning, stories, knowledge and indeed, wisdom.

And for those of us still with a formal attachment to the legal entity, TimeBanks USA, there are a couple of formal commitments to the movement that we are focused on:

First, there is unfinished work on Community Weaver 2.0 that we intend to complete within the next month to incorporate the feedback from users, to enhance security, and to make it more readily customizable by site administrators. This coming week, I and Eric Bachman along with members of the Drupal Advisory Group will be negotiating with GeekGene for the modifications and refinements called for by the field. We need money to pay for those changes which is why we have mailed out invoices. But countless hours have been spent by dedicated folk trying to make sure that there is a well functioning, robust, user friendly, customizable tool out in the world.

Second, we need to set in motion a kind of constitutional process of dialog by, of, for the TimeBank movement and network so that it has a vehicle or vehicles of its own making under its own control to shape the future.  For that purpose, we here at TimeBanks will be willing to play a convening role to intitiate a dialog that enlists TimeBank communities as co-investors in whatever can emerge to advance the shared mission of TimeBanking.

Third, having participated in regional trainings and other sessions designed to spread TimeBanking, one element has consistently emerged that I would like to share. TimeBanks take on vitality and energy when they have a focused goal that its members can help realize.  Over and over again, we heard of TimeBanks where people sign up because they think TimeBanking is a neat way to address individual needs B and then, nothing happened - or there were a few transactions and then everything went quiet. I would urge each TimeBank to take on its own 90 day project, where members can say: they are part of an effort to make a difference in their community. If each TimeBank undertakes to do that, we will all have an answer to the question that foundations and donors and investors ask: What is the ROI, the Return On Investment. We will have demonstrated that TimeBanking provides a unique tool to harness the vast capacity in communities to create the kind of world we all want.

There has never been a time when a medium of exchange to reward caring and sharing was more needed. There has never been a time when a currency of equality was more needed to offset the growing disparity in opportunity and well-being we see.

We are here in part to ask: Why are we here? And what kind of world do we want to leave for those who come after us?  Let=s use TimeBanking to help us answer those questions and to turn our answers into visible realities.

Edgar Cahn
Chairperson, TimeBanks USA

e-mail: yeswecan@aol.com

[Fred Steeves]

I hope Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have disabused non-Southerners of the notion that the intelligence gene doesn't exist South of the Mason-Dixon line. Washington DC excepted.


Now wait just a minute there Rad. As a Southerner myself, I'm thinking you could have come up with a couple of better examples of southern intelligence than these two characters. Really? I mean come on now, that's like saying George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are two examples of Northern intelligence.

I do appreciate you sticking up for us though, cause a country boy can survive.:cool:

I4s0nzsU1Wg

Cheers Mate,
Fred

George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are great examples of the type of Northern malevolence that creates 'facts' and 'history' through lies to achieve greedy gains. The slave owners were the 1% of the South and the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery or freeing people. Quite the opposite in fact.

My two picks are clearly men of intelligence. Political intelligence is an oxymoron so Carter's lack of it doesn't count.

So, who are your nominees since mine were so distasteful? :p


Hmmm, you're really putting the screws to me here brother... I'm going to go with my lovely wife who keeps me grounded thank god, and the good old hippie named Greg that cuts my hair when it gets too shaggy.:p

[modwiz]

I hope Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have disabused non-Southerners of the notion that the intelligence gene doesn't exist South of the Mason-Dixon line. Washington DC excepted.


Now wait just a minute there Rad. As a Southerner myself, I'm thinking you could have come up with a couple of better examples of southern intelligence than these two characters. Really? I mean come on now, that's like saying George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are two examples of Northern intelligence.

I do appreciate you sticking up for us though, cause a country boy can survive.:cool:


Cheers Mate,
Fred

George Bush Sr. and Alan Greenspan are great examples of the type of Northern malevolence that creates 'facts' and 'history' through lies to achieve greedy gains. The slave owners were the 1% of the South and the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery or freeing people. Quite the opposite in fact.

My two picks are clearly men of intelligence. Political intelligence is an oxymoron so Carter's lack of it doesn't count.

So, who are your nominees since mine were so distasteful? :p


Hmmm, you're really putting the screws to me here brother... I'm going to go with my lovely wife who keeps me grounded thank god, and the good old hippie named Greg that cuts my hair when it gets too shaggy.:p

I think my examples helped paint a better intellectual picture of the South, brother. Your choices will certainly insure you continue to get good haircuts and.........dinner.

BTW, my pleasure to get the dialogue moving toward ending misunderstanding and animosity between the North and South. A more perfect union still awaits us in the future we are headed towards.

[Chester]

wow - no one has posted a thing after yesterday's show.

It was the most significant show in weeks and No Posts!

I don't understand.

[Fred Steeves]

Damn, I must have missed it...

[Avocadess]

It's time to VOTE...! I had not had a chance to listen to last night's show yet, but here is what has been posted by trusted people on Global Voice 2012 FB Page:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/ <-- Drake's site (with link to site to vote)

The VOTE is whether or not you wish the Cabal to be allowed a plea bargain. YvonneG explained on Facebook's Global Voice 2012 page (paraphrasing lightly here), "There are no deals as of yet. The Cabal wants to know if they can plea bargin, just like criminals do before a trial. Drake is asking us if we think that a plea bargin can occur. We can have the say of a simple YES or NO to present to them and then they can hash out the terms!

"So...shall we give them a plea deal or not? If we don't let them plea bargin then they have promised us a fight until their death and they do have those resoarses of war to give us that last hurrah! Hell no, they cannot be trusted and everyone knows that. Do we trust a criminal who the court plea bargains with? NO, of coarse not! So how can anyone expect a full explanation of what the plea bargain terms are when the plea bargin terms have not been made yet?

"Drake again explained that he is going to demand they stick to what our terms will be from our perspective. We were asked a simple YES or NO. Will we allow a plea bargain or not?

"Look, plans can change on something of this magnitude, that is just the way it is!"

Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Michele (Avocadess) Deradune


12:30 p.m. CST: Drake and Company, after parting ways with Deatra and Freedom Reigns, are now doing their show every Wednesday on Global Voice Radio Network. This is their show from last evening now available on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4Q_h-fAzw&;feature=em-uploademail

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Actually to vote you end up here on Lady Dragon's site:

http://www.ladydragon.com/news2012/07061203.html

[Dennis Leahy]

I vote that Drake and all the patriots read The Reset Button (http://www.resetbutton2012.org/), and realize that there are viewpoints other than Libertarian to be considered.

Bargain with the most malevolent humans on Earth? Oh sure, give them a cluster of tropical islands and lives of luxury - they have only done everything in their power to bring as much hell to Earth as possible. Bargain with mass murders that reportedly sacrifice humans? Oh sure, why not. What could possibly go wrong?

Dennis

[Kimberley]

Also Drake posted a message today (I am still reading this and it is highly recommended) :


Message from Drake:

This is the best available on N.E.S.A.R.A. history.

Take time to study this until you understand.

Everyone, post this as far and wide as you can. .~ Drake

http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/history-of-nesara/

(edit)
This link has the same N.E.S.A.R.A. history posted and it is a bigger font so easier to read:

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/drake-let%E2%80%99s-us-know-about-best-available-nesara-description-7-june-2012

[Dennis Leahy]

Lady Dragon, please reformat your website. Use black text on white (those with vision problems cannot possibly read that childish lavender on black.) Left justify paragraphs - no centered text except headings (if you must.) This ain't poetry.

Advertise on Lady Dragon?! Live sports scores??? What in the hell is going on? I wouldn't go here to vote for my favorite online gaming mouse pad images, much less whether US patriots should bargain with mass murderers and quadrillion dollar thieves. What a frickin' joke!

What an amateurish, self-absorbed, childish (or maybe teenage goth-angst) vibe your site has. Cut it out!

Dennis

[Kimberley]

Drake’s Proposal for You to Vote On, Simplified

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/drake%E2%80%99s-proposal-you-vote-simplified

(edit)
oops I had the wrong link it it is fixed now

[Arrowwind]

Lady Dragon, please reformat your website. Use black text on white (those with vision problems cannot possibly read that childish lavender on black.) Left justify paragraphs - no centered text except headings (if you must.) This ain't poetry.

Advertise on Lady Dragon?! Live sports scores??? What in the hell is going on? I wouldn't go here to vote for my favorite online gaming mouse pad images, much less whether US patriots should bargain with mass murderers and quadrillion dollar thieves. What a frickin' joke!

What an amateurish, self-absorbed, childish (or maybe teenage goth-angst) vibe your site has. Cut it out!

Dennis

this is really hysterical Dennis!

Im not believing this Drake stuff as it is... so we get to vote? on a private website?

My MY. So far we have the Native Americans invading the military and taking the bad guys out and the we get to vote on a plea bargain? on a website done up in violet, no less.

[Bingzhu]

Drake jumped the shark.

[Ishtar]

From Lady Dragon's About Us



About LadyDragon

Internationally known over 175 countries as the woman expert of the industry because of LadyDragon in depth knowledge on all the facets of the industry which include the PC, the Video and the Wireless. Now with the new Xbox 360 that just came out and the PlayStation 3 coming to the market to choose from plus with the PC upgrading all the time and adding more hardware and accessories to play with not counting that everything is moving to become wireless people all over the world relies on her expertise in order to get the true facts and information that they need for their purchases or their knowledge.

Since now everything or anyone that is successful will become or be in a game sooner or later LadyDragon brings you powerful interviews like the one with Dalene Kurtis and Craig Lieberman from the Fast and Furious movie and the 2 exclusives with Joanie Laurer formerly know as Chyna from the WWF ( World Wrestling Federation).

Plus special report like being at the Playboy Mansion when Playboy unveiled their new video game

LadyDragon takes great pride in discovering new products, companies and people that are unknown and giving them a chance to be heard like the company Strategy First then was not known but now Strategy First is known as one of the best company in the world who develops strategy games.

Click here to listen to LadyDragon's radio appearance where she was talking about video games.

So this is one of the negotiators? Come on guys... you're not still falling for this are you? :faint:

How many radio stations has Drake been kicked off now?

Wake up!

[aranuk]

Also Drake posted a message today (I am still reading this and it is highly recommended) :


Message from Drake:

This is the best available on N.E.S.A.R.A. history.

Take time to study this until you understand.

Everyone, post this as far and wide as you can. .~ Drake

http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/history-of-nesara/

(edit)
This link has the same N.E.S.A.R.A. history posted and it is a bigger font so easier to read:

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/drake-let%E2%80%99s-us-know-about-best-available-nesara-description-7-june-2012

Hi Kimberley I read that NESARA history by James Rink. Blew my mind. Janet reno, gen Roy Schwasinger, US treasury Sec. Robert Rubin and Bill Clinton all cloned. Sugar.
NESARA halleyuha

Stan

[gripreaper]

Huh? Why is a plea bargain being offered when there has been no arrest, no arraignment, no charges filed, and no detainment.

http://swiftor.com/attachments/f91/10318d1329521442t-48-hour-trial-again-sisko-facepalm.gif

So, 5000 years of the Rule of Law down the drain, if you own the whole planet and made all the rules, you don't have to follow them?

Like Dennis said, what could possibly go wrong?

[aranuk]

That NESARA history by James Rink had a link to a site which he thought might help with the clone stuff. I clicked on it and it was like a mickey mouse site that explained absolutely nuffink at all.
As for lady dragon it beggars belief why Drake should in any way form any relationship to her. She, I am sorry to say is a lead weight around Drake's neck. If these Military forces like navy Seals, Delta Force were involved with getting NESARA into law why on earth is Drake not getting PROFESSIONAL help from the Military in the Pentagon. It's like he is wandering around getting invilved with disreputable people. Why? That is a big question for me. Even this new Global Radio people they sound very amatuerish to me as well.

Stan

[karelia]

It's either an act of utter stupidity (for obvious reasons) or a strike of genius (in that the cabal are laughing their heads off over such stupidity when in truth it's some kind of "code" speak to those more involved). I'm tending to lean towards stupidity, though I'm willing to change my mind if I have reason to. Right now, the entire scenario sounds like a badly done soap opera.


That NESARA history by James Rink had a link to a site which he thought might help with the clone stuff. I clicked on it and it was like a mickey mouse site that explained absolutely nuffink at all.
As for lady dragon it beggars belief why Drake should in any way form any relationship to her. She, I am sorry to say is a lead weight around Drake's neck. If these Military forces like navy Seals, Delta Force were involved with getting NESARA into law why on earth is Drake not getting PROFESSIONAL help from the Military in the Pentagon. It's like he is wandering around getting invilved with disreputable people. Why? That is a big question for me. Even this new Global Radio people they sound very amatuerish to me as well.

Stan

[Tommy]

For the record, I do not recommend "voting" on this. Seriously, send an e-mail to "ladydragon"? Wow, talk about shady..

Seriously, more information can be drawn from your e-mail than you think, this is a general advice and not even specific to this case in particular.

Frankly I think most people here already know what I mean.

I mean.... F'ing wow!

http://i.imgur.com/a1ZES.gif

PS: Mod's; Feel free to remove gif if it is distracting.. In this case this (gif) represents how I feel about this right now.. lol

[aranuk]

If there is an imminent American revolution on behalf of the American people why isn't there Professionals running the show. The big clean up = show. The United States of America is the most advanced technological country in the world. I would expect if a revolution was planned by the military then it would be orchestrated in a military efficient way. I mean to say, whilst it was good PR to have amatuer people like Deatra to be helping in the plan, it would have helped if she hadn't asked for money to do with her personal life misfortunes. Terri too has the unfortunate circumstance that she works for a stock market corporation. In my opinion it is bumbling forward like a magot eating its way through a raw turnip. I sincerely hope and wish it all goes through though. If it does it shows that the opposition is so weak it cannot defend itself.

Stan

[aranuk]

It's like when I watch Scotland play football in the World Cup. I would love them to win every game and pick up the Trophy, but when I see all their fumbling around and miss penalty kicks I am screaming at the TV calling them all the stupid bastards. Cursing the manager for picking the wrong players. Putting the right players in the wrong positions. Frustrating to say the least. C'mon Drake get the finger out or you will not win. Drake should have got James Martinez on his team. I know Cidersomerset/Steve would agree with me.

Stan

[foreverfan]

http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-15-Scary-Movie.gif

[frozen alchemy]

Like I said dozens of pages ago, Drake and Friends are a bunch of VFW old war horses sitting on their barstools reminiscing in their beer about the good 'ol days and pretending they're still important.

Yes World, Some Americans Are Really This Stupid. It's truly difficult to get me to be more ashamed of the country of my birth, but this fiasco has managed.

As to the Plea Bargain? Sure; your choice Cabal: The Gallows or the Guillotine. We'll sell tickets to help pay remunerations to your millions of victim's families.

[Selene]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1113/arewethereyetop.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/arewethereyetop.jpg/)

[gripreaper]

A Warning from Teri Hinkle:

Warnings About Drake from Teri Hinkle

Today it has been spread far and wide that we are to vote on a poll as to whether or not we would agree to some sort of "treaty" with the elite who as we all know are very nearly defeated. It seems their idea of a fair deal is either promise not to hold them accountable or they launch an all out war and reduce both sides to one third. Really?

Do you seriously think you can make a deal with the devil? And what kind of mentality thinks they would keep any promise? Never mind that would be the first time in history that a totally corrupt and unsalvageable bloodline ever exhibited an ounce of honor or understanding of it's definition. As far as I am concerned extinction is the only way to stop that very same bloodline from continuing the death and destruction they have wrought on humanity for thousands of years but hey that's just me. I don't usually have to be hit on the head more than once or twice before I get it.

Please use some common sense before you even consider casting a vote for any such outlandish and idiotic plan. This wreaks of the same militaristic mind set that caused the great disaster the world is in already. If you are on a ship that is sinking do you plug the holes with the same materials you built it with?

Now if that isn't enough common sense, stop and ask yourself what gives a few thousand people listening to an Internet radio show, the right to make any decision or even vote on a decision for the rest of the more than seven billion people on this planet? Add to that there are no details of this so called agreement, nor are there any identities revealed of just who is making a treaty to include and impact the whole globe. Gee, "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" comes to mind.

There is another good question; wouldn't it give them the answer they would love to have as to how many of you would choose to get down on your knees and accept their idea of a deal rather than finish the fight once and for all so they can re-group and start again?

Are you so desperate you would sell your country, your children and grandchildren for NESARA money? Do you get on your knees and worship the very thing they used to enslave you in the first place, money? If so you will deserve the consequences of your part of the deal.

I do not support, was not a part of and was not told about this. I have fielded calls and emails all day long asking me if I was either in favor or not. This is just plain nuts folks and if this is an example of how weak and dependent this nation has become, how dumbed down and indoctrinated the people are, it's time to bug out. That's my answer.

For those of you who may not have heard about it and are wondering what I am talking about read for yourself and then please use the minds God gave you.

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/06/httpwwwladydragoncom-drakes-new-site.html?showComment=1339074439109#c3282269166565460392

--
Teri

[Avocadess]

Portal 2012 -- a website I have enjoyed that deals a lot with the ET/ED factor of what is going on -- has given explanations for the current happenings in re the mass arrests and negotiations:

"Posted: 07 Jun 2012 04:50 PM PDT

"Negotiations Update

"I have contacted my sources and they confirmed intel from Drake’s last interview.

"Top people inside Positive Military group started having doubts and reservations about the execution of the Mass Arrests scenario in early May as there was an unknown element disturbing their plans. This unknown element turned out to be the Archons, physical and non-physical ones. The original Plan for the Mass Arrests designed by the Positive Military did not include Archons in consideration as their presence was not known to the Positive Military group until recently.

"The physical Archons consist of a powerful group inside the Jesuit faction. This group had direct access to nuclear weapons which they were threatening to use if Mass Arrests would commence. As this group was effectively cut away from such access this Tuesday, the Cabal went into panic mode as they had no more leverage to delay their downfall. Therefore they are begging for mercy. They are cornered and they have nothing more to lose. If their only future would be mass arrests and possible execution, the only option they have is to fight an all-out war until their last man falls. If we give them a chance for a peaceful surrender in exchange for a milder treatment after they surrender, they have a motivation to cooperate. I have been present at many negotiations with members of the Cabal and they all follow the same pattern: as long as the bad guys have some power, they will use deceit to your disadvantage as much as they can and as long as they can. When they are finally cornered, most of them become very cooperative and some even genuinely cross over to the Light.

"The non-physical Archons could become a real problem in the Mass Arrests scenario. Please understand that Mass Arrests could not happen without the complete reset of the financial system to cut off the Cabal from their remaining financial resources. At the reset, the non-physical Archons would influence people to spread panic, violence, riots, provoke civilians against the military…Things could really get ugly and spin out of control.

"So peaceful surrender of the Cabal is our best option. If the Cabal tries to manipulate the negotiation process, we can still execute the Mass Arrests scenario anytime we want. In case that things then get ugly and escalate into a war, the Resistance has promised to back up the Positive Military and protect the People with their resources and can also send their troops from their deep underground bases to assist the Positive Military as the last resort.

"Non-negotiable terms of surrender as suggested by the Resistance:

"1. The leading members of the Cabal that are public figures must publicly announce surrender of the Cabal over the mass media until a certain deadline. The latest date suggested by the Resistance is June 21st (summer solstice). If the Cabal does not do this, the Mass Arrests scenario continues.

"2. Immediately after that, in the next 24 hours, they must permanently step down from all positions of power. They must give in all their property and resources. They are allowed to keep basic food, clothes and shelter for survival. This will free us to create the future we want, with NESARA, free energy technologies, transparent financial system, non-censored media....

"3. They must publicly confess their wrongdoings. Amnesty can then be granted in most cases, with some arrests still taking place.

"The reason for polls on this and other websites is for the Positive forces to understand the opinion of the general public so they can perform their negotiations with greater confidence. Therefore it would be great if someone could get those polls to a mainstream website so that opinions of the mainstream population and their reactions to this would be better understood. Human masses have been programmed immensely and they effectively became parts of the Matrix and no one knows how they will react.

"Even if all physical Cabal surrenders, you need to understand that by this act alone the non-physical Archons will not be removed. That is a separate issue and it will be dealt with in a different way."

The above is from Portal 2012: http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

(You can read more about the Archons in past blog entries at Portal 2012.)

Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

[foreverfan]

I had a feeling that once I listened to Drake's plan that was the reason to Teri's split. Wow... she brings up some great points that Dragon Lady kept trying to bring up. Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler too and history shows how that worked out... WWII.

In any case, this is exactly what they are trying to avoid. I think the plan is brilliant if they can put it off. Once we are more in control, then we can go for the kill. I think that once America finds out what really happened, these people are mudd anyway.

We shall see. I'm still waiting to see something tangible... an Internet radio show doesn't cut it for me either.

[Oouthere]

This is a silly question, but who are "my sources?" and are they different from Drake's?

Rich

[SilentFeathers]

This is a silly question, but who are "my sources?" and are they different from Drake's?

Rich

Just make something up to attach to "my sources", such as secret agent, whistleblower, ET, Dragon dude, etc etc etc,.... it seems to be working for Drake and all those in the "company" quite well...

[gripreaper]

David Wilcock Update:

1. We are not alone, and never have been.
2. We are waking up.
3. This shift is also associated with a transformative "awakening" of the pineal gland in the brain -- which, as I explain in the original 2012 Enigma video and in my book The Source Field Investigations, does appear to be our central connection to the Source Field.
4. David is finalizing his new book, The Synchronicity Key, he has gone back to the "roots" of the Edgar Cayce material.
5. Reincarnation is real.
6. David has been very busy and barely has had time to catch his breath.
7. David references and reminds us of his reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.
8. As the tyrants of this world push ever harder for global control, the pushback has become inescapable. They are simply not being permitted to do what they wanted to do by higher dimensional beings.
9. Mass arrests will happen. It's inevitable as the truth becomes widely known.
10. David has been having dreams, and his dreams tell him what’s going to happen.
11. Divine Intervention is guiding this whole process so that it is occurring bit by bit, here and there, so as to minimize fear and maximize effectiveness.
12. It has now been realized that rather than assigning a particular date to it, they are watching events unfold and seeing how things keep miraculously improving and working out.


http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1060-massdivine

No mention of Drake, or his falling out with Teri, or his changing internet radio every week, or Stew Webb and the Bilderberg at Kimble Castle, or anything to do with negotiations, or one alternative media website voting for the future of mankind, or Fulford's blog, etc.

[Avocadess]

Cobra is the one I believe has the Portal 2012 blog, which has always dealt primarily, as far as I can tell, with ET/ED factor. Thus, I consider Portal 2012's sources to be much from the ET/ED side of things.

I love this quote from the recent blog on that site:

""Human masses have been programmed immensely and they effectively became parts of the Matrix and no one knows how they will react."

I think it is a difficult thing for ETs/EDs to get a "reading" from what the PEOPLE want as opposed to the ruling elite's puppets and lackeys. My senses tell me that Drake (and even Lady Dragon) were chosen because they relate to people in a way the government never can in its present state where people fear government and do not trust government, etc. -- and in fact where so many of those who deserve to be arrested.

I also feel that the ETs/EDs are very concerned about public reaction to "THEM." Those who are assisting with the mass arrests (or negotiations for plea bargain) want to be as non-threatening as possible and truly want to work with us. That is not to say all ETs or EDs are to be trusted. Quite the contrary!!!

I don't know about anyone else, but I have no fear or distrust of Drake OR Lady Dragon. And they are getting the word out -- which is basically their only real job. The fact that Lady Dragon decided to capitalize on using her website is certainly a big disappointment, but the fact is that MOST people have been doing things that way for a long time (and I suppose in her own way she too is still programmed by the Matrix).

I agree with Portal 2012 (or Cobra) that a site JUST FOR VOTING -- and "owned" by Drake -- should be set up. Lady Dragon has WAY too much personality for people to react to, and that is NOT what this is all about...!

Just my two cents.

[Avocadess]

Oh my. Finally a peep out of David Wilcock (who finally got a new briefing). Wilcock did not seem to have been made aware of the request for a plea bargain at the time he wrote this rather long article (which I imagine he wrote over a period before this came up). The following is copied from his website www.DivineCosmos.com:

"Mass Arrests / Divine Intervention: New Briefings (Finally!)

"Finally, after months of no new insider updates, one of our top sources has gotten new information about how Divine Intervention is shaping the mass arrests that have been planned. The news is very exciting -- and very positive.

"THE "GODS" ARE BACK... AND THEY NEVER REALLY LEFT

"We are not alone -- and we never have been. Extraterrestrial humans, widely regarded in ancient folklore as 'angels', 'elves', 'leprechauns', 'faeries', 'jinn', etcetera, have been guiding and helping us all along.


To see the rest please go to: www.DivineCosmos.com)

[Avocadess]

The whole voting thing has been a real mess. It's not the end of the world, just another very comical mess-up. Like David Wilcock putting out a new article not even being aware of the plea bargain thing coming up.

What I mean by that is, a lot of people had problems with Lady Dragon's website for the voting to be done. I have to admit I thought that was a mistake. The voting page should have been kept completely neutral -- and without any mention of Lady Dragon at all, in my opinion. Now for the people upset with that Drake has a new page set up for voting that is not on her website but which still lists her website and her name twice. WHY? (Ridiculous really. I'm sure she's a fine and great lady, but she does not belong on any of the voting pages in my opinion!!!)

If you have already voted on Lady Dragon's website, do not vote again. If you have not yet voted, please vote on Drake's voting page: http://americannationalmilitia.com/voting.html

If this movement were a true disinformation operation, it would be MUCH more professionally handled, lol. NO DOUBT...!!! I love to laugh, and what better time than NOW?! (smile)

Have the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

EDIT: I just deleted my comment of frustration. No reason to put my frustrations out there, especially since 70% or more of it is NOT because of Drake or the mass arrest scenario in general but about my personal stresses after getting so behind in work after spending nearly a full week getting settled in a new residence. I have high hopes I'll be back in top form by this time next week.

I won't take a whole week off. That was just my frustration talking. Apologies again!!

[Dennis Leahy]

If this movement were a true disinformation operation, it would be MUCH more professionally handled, lol. NO DOUBT...!!! I love to laugh, and what better time than NOW?! (smile)

Have the best day EVER..!!

AvocadessMichele, you are a gem, a treasure. Regardless of any of the other stuff, thank you for nurturing your positive spirit and shining so brightly. :~)

Dennis

[gripreaper]

http://www.in5d.com/images/change.jpg

[aranuk]

The voting didn't say anything about a plea bargain. Here is what we are asked to vote on.
1- N.E.S.A.R.A. The National Economic Security And Reformation Act.

This offers financial freedom. Please read the history of NESERA for more in depth information at these 2 places http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/nesarahistory.html
http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/nesara.htm

2- Release of ALL advanced technologies. The Collateral Accounts will be used to set up manufacturing and installation.

This offers jobs. There are between 6 and 800 of these that will change all our lives for the better.



3- Return to our founding Documents; 1787 Constitution + the original organic 13th Amendment/Article, The Articles of Confederation,


Stan

[Avocadess]

"Plea bargain" was a term someone who was explaining the situation used as a paraphrase -- because it essentially is "just like" a plea bargain.

EDITED UPDATE: Dennis: Thanks for your sweet compliment. I edited my post to take out my little tirade born of frustration and impatience not really caused by Drake, et al. And I'm not really taking off a week. That was my stress-out talking...!

[Mozart]

Michele, you are a gem, a treasure. Regardless of any of the other stuff, thank you for nurturing your positive spirit and shining so brightly. :~)

Dennis


Dennis ~


I TOTALLY concur!


And what a monster thread this has become ... the 100,000 view milestone is coming up!

[gripreaper]

"Plea bargain" was a term someone who was explaining the situation used as a paraphrase -- because it essentially is "just like" a plea bargain.

Dennis: Thanks for your sweet compliment, but if you look at my edited post (at the very end) you will see I have lost my patience. I'm planning to take a week off from this, which is playing out way too much like a circus...!!!

Your energy is sorely needed here. Change begins on the energetic level with our intentions emanating from within, and THEN manifests throughout. That's how the grand Sophia, the "all that is", the source field, the energetic matrix...whatever you want to call it...WORKS.

[Fred Steeves]

Every now and then I get the hankerin to belly on up to the Drake & Company bar, have me a belt or two, see how "The Plan" is progressing, and how people feel about it. On this occassion I have a question that is bothering me, so maybe someone can help me out.

If this plan has been so meticulously planned, for so long, by smart, capable, and in the loop people, why at the very last second before metaphorical midnight, do "they" suddenly need to ask the anonymous world wide web for this vote? Even if it is a serious vote, and "they" need our input, how in the hell do they know who's in their voting block? How many pimply faced teens take the occassional break from Dungeons & Dragons, and porn, just to frequent these sites?

I'm sorry, but neither scenario strikes me as being very well planned out. What does make sense to me would be, on the benign side, someone looking for their shot at their 15 minutes of fame. And on the more malevolent side, a nifty way to buy some time from those who are beginning to grumble amongst themselves about "The Plan".

Sometimes though, I'm just plain missing something, so if someone has a logical explanation, I'm all ears.

Cheers All,
Fred

[Dennis Leahy]

Dennis: Thanks for your sweet compliment, but if you look at my edited post (at the very end) you will see I have lost my patience. I'm planning to take a week off from this, which is playing out way too much like a circus...!!!
Still a gem, even post edit. :~)

I have no idea if the story is true - of a loving, compassionate, teacher of peace who walked into a temple one day and kicked the banker's asses - but it endears the character to me.

Being too passive is... well, too passive. We need our passion. Our passion gives our compassion wings.

I'm sure that I added to your frustration, with my outburst about how ridiculously off-putting the Dragon Lady's website is, and why in the hell it would have ever been selected for... well, anything. Consider me like a negative ion (the ones that make you feel positive) and that maybe my finger-wagging was the straw that broke the camel's back (and forced a change.)

Enjoy whatever time away from the circus you need. Remember that the 10th (http://www.howtopracticezen.com/newadvancedzen.html) stage of Buddhist development has been called "returning to the marketplace." The chaos will continue in your absence. When you get back, the circus will still be going (though it may be a different act.)

Be strong. Be well.

Dennis

[EnergyGardener]

I have no problem voting "yes" to 1 - 3, provided any CABAL that willingly and knowingly (against our knowledge) participated against humanity must leave Earth now and may not join the Third on the new planet.

There cannot be any leverage / reward for behaving badly any further. Humanity cannot afford (nor deserves) any further deceipt, control, influence or harm from these beings.

They can live, but only elsewhere of our realms until and only if returned by Source.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

If this plan has been so meticulously planned, for so long, by smart, capable, and in the loop people, why at the very last second before metaphorical midnight, do "they" suddenly need to ask the anonymous world wide web for this vote? [/SIZE]



Dude, if you start to ask questions, the whole thing collapses like a house of illogical cards. It's like buying a lottery ticket. Just enjoy the fantasy.

Seriously, though. This is a control and money-harvest technique that I pointed out when Bill Wood first showed up and started doing his medicine show.

Here is my post from February 5th-


There are certain signs to watch for and tactics of group manipulation to be aware of. Cult leaders, under any guise, will establish that some of you are special. Chosen. Or that you might be. Then the rest will feel envious and want to earn their way into the chosen group. The feeling of specialness creates loyalty and bonding along with a sense of purpose that can be directed by the cult leader.

Stephen (Charles) came and at first was just an interesting interview with new information. Then he said he was looking for a team of people and stated or insinuated that they would change the world, be major players at the highest levels of power, interact with St. Germaine, form a matrix paradigm for a new world, etc. He lashed out at those who questioned him, including Inelia, and caused a huge rift in the Avalon community. Vague answers, misdirection, teasers, and promises of special status were used to manipulate.

Brockbrader started last night by saying that those who donated a dollar were special. They were the true lightbearers of the grand change and he dubbed them Captains. He lost me right there. He knew what he was doing. It's a standard technique and is even used by some popular self-help/spiritual authors and speakers. Bill Harris even used to teach business seminars on how to milk your followers for money using this technique. Probably still does.

Anyways, I appreciate the OP (original post) as discernment is a subject of worthy discussion. The point of my post here is that there ARE things you can learn to help you out in this regard. Understanding the strategies and techniques of mass mind control, NLP, social engineering, marketing, and media communication is a great first step.

"Believe nothing, O monks, merely because you have been told it or because it is traditional, or because you yourselves have imagined it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings, that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. " -Buddha

[Kimberley]

This Fulford 5 minute update was just posted today

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Much love!

[modwiz]

This Fulford 5 minute update was just posted today

Much love!

As it always is, it is a stay tuned process. Where else will news like this emanate from? Every word of what Ben says could be based on facts and not a peep will be heard about it from news sources. Most alternative news is controlled too.

The cabal is talking surrender and looking for wiggle room. There will probably be a few false starts until it becomes apparent that there are some key players in the cabal incapable of ever being trustworthy. Our decency is the last weapon they will have when cornered. They have told us we are a violent species, but that is not true. All wars and revolutions are led by psychopaths who often use the threat of death to make others fight for them. John Lash is one of the few who understands and shares the very unpleasant reality of these intra-species predators and the equally unpleasant solution. The results would be well worth it though.

They kill in cold blood, something most of us can not do. Ours will have to come from red hot frustration and self defense.

[Rollo]

JonnyDontPlay about Drake

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[Avocadess]

Kimberley: Not your fault...! (I heard many complaints elsewhere!) And as I edited and updated above, I'm not really going to take off a whole week. That was my immature tantrum talking...! Apologies!

EnergyGardener: I thought the SAME THING. I really wished there was a place for 25 words or less SUGGESTIONS regarding any "plea bargain" type scenario because I too wanted to say they should be EXILED TO ANOTHER PLANET...~!!!!

[NancyV]

So we've gone from imminent arrests with 90% of the military and pentagon ready to rock and roll....to a sloppy vote with unidentified internet denizens deciding the terms of how to deal with the cabal who supposedly want to negotiate a surrender???? Wow! This shows that Drake and friends really believe people are so stupid that many of them will believe this huge change in their previous "plans". Unfortunately they are probably right to a large degree.

I guess they'll just take the results of the vote to the Pentagon and Military and they'll all say YES...we'll comply by the results of the "vote". This is so absurd I'm truly amazed anyone believes even a small bit of it.

Thanks for posting the video, Rollo. JonnyDontPlay certainly doesn't mince words and I couldn't have said it better! (although I might have thrown in a few more "F" words)

[EnergyGardener]

Avocadess,

That's exactly what I wrote when I voted.:lever::yes4:

Thank you for your tireless efforts, tolerance and patience.:hug:

[foreverfan]

You mean I lost my ass in Toilet Paper Futures?

[applecrusher1992]

Honestly if they could arrest these cabal they should have. Why trust known liars? These cabal have never surrendered so easily. What makes these people think they won't play tricks on them now? And to now go to the "Light Side" which sounds like cabal fiction to me. This is just more manipulation because the cabal are losing and this is the only way for them to prevent us from evolving as a species. Resistant the propaganda by Drake.

[Selene]

So. Let me understand this: Mass arrests have been replaced by: They're all gonna surrender willingly....?

I can hardly keep a straight face....

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8092/whateverq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/whateverq.jpg/)

Cheers,

Selene

[gripreaper]

Had a huge discussion today with a friend about Psychopaths. The Psychopath makes no differentiation between themselves and the world, as they have no sense of boundary, and all things ARE self. Also,the psychopath only has one drive, for power and pleasure of self. So, how do you negotiate with such an entity which has ZERO empathy for others, and does not see an "other"?

The only thing that they do understand, is the reptilian brain-stem motor adrenaline fight or flight response to their very life being threatened.

So, back them into a corner, threaten to kill them if they don't comply? Offer them amnesty if they will stand down and relinquish their power and prestige? And even if they do initially comply, the first and ONLY thing they will consider is how to get back at their perceived oppressors, who somehow outsmarted them.

They only know one drive, to live for self, kill those who threaten this power, or die in the process. I don't think surrender is an option.

Psychopaths cannot be rehabilitated, or made to be empathic. Impossible.

[crosby]

oy vey........ i cannot believe this discussion is still going on......hahhahhahahhaah. i am just here to poke fun!
corson

[Kimberley]

***************
From Drakes web site today:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/06/voting-update-vote-below-if-you-havent/


Voting Update –Vote Below if You Haven’t


Posted on 06/09/2012

This is the update posted on Facebook…For those who have not voted yet, you can vote at Soldier Hugs…

ANNOUNCEMENT: I was just contacted by GVN with a message from Drake regarding the Vote Polling and its data.

I was asked to post this announcement relaying that the original Lady Dragon Poll has been tabulated and is now closed for the purpose of obtaining the initial “Sampling” of votes.

I was informed that the Lady Dragon sample indicated approximately 94% in favor of the Conditions listed for that Poll.

I was asked to relay to the people here that Drake has requested that the SoldierHugs Poll remain open and aggregating votes for longer tabulated sample to be collected sometime Tuesday.

As such, please continue to share and vote on the SoldierHugs Poll if you have not already.

Additionally, I am pasting some location demographics from Google Analytics for the SoldierHugs site as of this morning just in case folks would like to see how its going.

Very interestingly, Canada was the 2nd largest demographic behind the US. As of this morning Japan is #2 with nearly 4 times the numbers of Canada.

Thank you to all…

Country/Territory Visits Pages / Visit Avg. Visit Duration % New Visits
1. United States 5,254 2.30 00:03:20 76.08%
2. Japan 1,757 1.65 00:02:10 80.08%
3. Canada 554 2.11 00:03:10 79.06%
4. United Kingdom 245 1.96 00:02:45 82.45%
5. Australia 199 2.55 00:03:20 76.38%
6. Italy 129 2.02 00:11:03 81.40%
7. Netherlands 99 1.68 00:02:03 84.85%
8. (not set) 91 2.05 00:07:30 54.95%
9. Germany 86 2.41 00:03:40 74.42%
10. Romania 85 1.59 00:02:06 95.29%

http://www.soldierhugs.com/cabal-surrender-poll-vote/

[SilentFeathers]

While all those playing in this voting game and ridiculous fantasy that the psychopaths will do the right thing,,,,here come the armed drones, more poison in your food and dozens of new draconian laws to make you more of a slave and a criminal,,,,,they (the psychopath elite) don't even want you breathing the same air as they do......this drake and company bs is nothing but BS to distract you from truth, which is; the elite are moving forward at a tremendous speed with their sick agenda and have no intentions of "make a deal" or giving a rats ass about us in any regard.

I honestly feel really bad about all of this and watching such a sick game unfold. The only positive thing out of Drake and company is what makes common sense and not a single thing more, such as storing food, gardening, and community.....all this hupla about everything else that makes no common sense and or doesn't have one shred of evidence to back it needs to be tossed in the garbage folk's.

I've been wrong before but I don't think I'm wrong about this, these people are making crap up as they go along, dovetailing complete BS stories to drag their stupid fantasy story out so they remain "listened too" and so they feel like somebody or a celebrity "EGO FOLKS"

As I've said many times before.....

Keep dreaming or wake up, that's the only two options here.....

[Kimberley]

"You may say I am a dreamer... but I'm not the only one... maybe someday you will join us and we will live as one"---- John Lennon & me, and many.... :grouphug:

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[SilentFeathers]

"You may say I am a dreamer... but I'm not the only one... maybe someday you will join us and we will live as one"---- John Lennon & me, and many.... :grouphug:


Believe me, I know your not the only one :)

It doesn't hurt to dream, but be careful that it's not a dream that leads you astray and takes you down a dusty trail.....

[SilentFeathers]

and by the way? who is the administrator of this site?

http://www.soldierhugs.com/

[Whiskey_Mystic]

and by the way? who is the administrator of this site?

http://www.soldierhugs.com/


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[Avocadess]

Drake and Company will be airing on the Internet at 12 Noon Central Time today (10:00 a.m. Pacific, 11:00 a.m. Mountain, 1:00 p.m. Eastern). Here is a link to listen:

http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624

Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess


RE: Soldier Hugs site -- I asked one of the Drake & Company people and was told they are a helping site.

[Avocadess]

Some clarifications from Portal 2012 (all of below is quoted from "Grid Ratio Between Light and Dark" at http://2012portal.blogspot.com/ and not in its entirety):

Positive ETs have technology to block the nukes from the distance in most cases. The reason why they can not block all of them is quantum foam anomaly on this planet that can sometimes cause their advanced technologies to malfunction (remember Roswell UFO crash). Therefore some of the remaining nukes need to be cut off from the Cabal by Resistance ground personnel. The Rothschild and Rockefeller factions had full access to nuclear weapons until December 2011. Only after that problem was solved in January 2012, the Plan for mass arrests could move forward. The Jesuit faction had some access to nuclear weapons until a few days ago. Only after that was solved, real negotiations for the surrender of the Cabal could start taking place.

The Cabal is now weakened but not yet without power. They still have access to conventional and also some chemical / biological weapons. 20% of the military and at least 40% of the general population is still supporting them. They still have full control over the media and their Rothschild banking casino is still open. Even if the positive ETs intervened this moment, they could not block all negative actions of the Cabal against the general population. Imagine what just one massive attack with chemical weapons would do.

The other factor here is the deeply ingrained fear in many of the positive ET races. They have been through their share of the galactic wars and to tell you the truth, they do not like the idea of being involved into something like that again. The Pleiadians have clearly stated to me that they will massively appear only after the Cabal is removed. They are happy to assist, but only from a distance. I had great problems years ago getting them more actively involved in the liberation of this planet.

Liberation of the planet would be much simpler if the general population would not be so deeply programmed so they could cooperate with the Plan. The key here is to take control over the mass media from the Cabal. Therefore this is the first condition for their surrender.

Also, through the control of the mass media the Cabal wants to create an illusion that nothing is happening to discourage people from actually doing something to speed up the changes. Actually much is going on in the background, as me, Drake and Fulford are reporting.

If you want to actively participate in the change (apart from the mass meditations) I have a suggestion: it would be nice to gather information about the top players in the Cabal, who they are, what they did, where they live, their addresses and phone numbers. For Rothschild and Rockefeller factions, this information is quite easy to get and it would be good to post it somewhere on the internet in a clear and concise way. When they are exposed, they will cooperate in negotiations even more and will be less prone to dirty tricks.

Further explanation about the votes on this and other websites: the purpose of the voting is not to decide the future of our planet, but to give the Light forces an idea of what people want so we can negotiate better.

[frozen alchemy]

Avocadess, so you've gone from 'the Pleiadians have clearly stated to me' to 'it would be nice if someone made a list of the cabal members, their addresses and phone numbers' in one post?

Who the 'cabal' is, is up for debate. Is Hillary Clinton part of the cabal? Some people would say yes, others no. Anyone with a boatload of money has layers of security and probably several houses in different countries. It's not like you can knock on their doors... and we also don't know who was threatened to act in a certain way, who was mind controlled, and if you believe some reports, who is a clone and who is 'real'...

Have you proof of your Pleiadian contacts, or are we supposed to take this for granted because you say so, like you told us you believed in Drake, back a few weeks ago on this very thread? Cuz your belief system and reality seem to have little in common and they certainly morph with time. You left this forum in a huff just a few weeks ago because people were understandably dubious about Drake and now you're back posting more pseudo information about him, all of it unverified or documented.

Reading this thread is actually a pretty scary lesson in the gullibility of the human population.

[Kimberley]

Avocadess thank you VERY MUCH for your posts to this Update thread...they are VERY appreciated!!

(you have beaten me to the update posts the past few days... :-) )

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[TargeT]

Avocadess, so you've gone from 'the Pleiadians have clearly stated to me' to 'it would be nice if someone made a list of the cabal members, their addresses and phone numbers' in one post? ...........................
Reading this thread is actually a pretty scary lesson in the gullibility of the human population.

Gullibility and reading comprehension... haha ;)


Some clarifications from Portal 2012 (all of below is quoted from "Grid Ratio Between Light and Dark" at http://2012portal.blogspot.com/ and not in its entirety)

[promezeus]

hey alchemy, maybe you should try learning to read and understand english before commenting on someone else's post. Then you might see that avocadess was simply quoting from the blog: http://2012portal.blogspot.com/ as she clearly stated in her first sentence.

I think you are right about one thing. It's pretty scary to see how many people are unable to read and comprehend a simple, clearly written post, like the one from avocadess, but they are not shy at all about promoting their disinformation. The 1% controllers depend on most of the other 99% to do their dirtywork for them.

[turiya]

We Are The Ones We Have Been Waiting For.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PAKuZil91rI#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hsK0yQP8cw&feature=fvwrel

[Kimberley]

Drake internet radio update on live now... will be archived latter at this same link

http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624

[Kimberley]

also... the show is still live right now but for future reference this is the link for the chat room

Here is the chat room link...you do not need to register just type in a user name and log in....

http://www.travelventuresgroup.com/chat/

[Avocadess]

frozen alchemy: When I am quoting someone else I put a line on top (as I did here). My post began with "Some clarifications from Portal 2012 (all of below is quoted from "Grid Ratio Between Light and Dark" at http://2012portal.blogspot.com/ and not in its entirety):"

I am posting what I got off of Portal 2012 blog -- and that is not me at all. Usually I put quotation marks in front of every paragraph when quoting someone and since that is very time-consuming I skipped it this time.

I left for several weeks over a month ago I think it was, yes. Now I have returned. I'm sorry you are sorry I returned, but that's what I did. Why are we talking about this?

[turiya]

Another new video update:

Drake is now talking about NESARA funds and that makes him as fake as a snake!
Don't make the mistake of trusting Drake!
Enjoy the redneck images on this video!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Sn0OUrppU&feature=player_embedded

[foreverfan]

This stuff gets more bizarre by the day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cxJjrxwwtIA

[Kimberley]

This stuff gets more bizarre by the day.

I am still not sure about cobra???

Time will tell about ALL of this !!

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Another new video update:

Drake is now talking about NESARA funds and that makes him as fake as a snake!
Don't make the mistake of trusting Drake!
Enjoy the redneck images on this video!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Sn0OUrppU&feature=player_embedded

Hi

The narrator in the “Is Drake a Fake? ...and Are NESARA Funds Forthcoming? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Sn0OUrppU)” video has made some interesting statements that need to be heeded.

The bigger question now is;
Should all media outlets who profess to be seekers of the truth & that includes forums be promoting or letting others promote their dis-info via their resources?

Isn't it now time that folk took out their axes and sharpened them for they have a long and busy schedule ahead of chopping down all the rotten trees that they have idly aloud to take root and grow.

How can change come about if folk who talk about change are in turn guardians of the rotten forests?
How can change come about if all those who stand up after seeing through the smoke are chopped down themselves by the very ones who profess to be truthers?

[Avocadess]

I like very much like Cobra (at Portal 2012), but don't know who s/he is. Reading and hearing the messages at Portal 2012 seem to "pull all the ends together" for me. It also makes it more real for me the ET participation in what is going on.

It is pretty clear to me that the HUGE TRANSITION is still coming; and as said by Cobra, if the elite does not publicly conceded and remove themselves from offices of power by approx. June 22nd, the mass arrests will STILL BE ON.

Thanks for posting that video, foreverfan -- I was going to post that one just now!! =)

And, to be honest, I actually feel just as comfortable -- if not MORE comfortable -- listening to Cobra at Portal 2012 as I do listening to Drake himself. (Even though I live in Texas and was born here, some of the Southern style gets to be a bit much for me at times. I'm okay with it, but prefer Cobra's style.)

Cobra also explains that if the Cabal does NOT abdicate and step down by June 22nd, the MASS ARREST SCENARIO WILL CONTINUE.

This is going to happen. One way or the other, it is happening, and it is happening soon.

[turiya]

Hi

The narrator in the “Is Drake a Fake? ...and Are NESARA Funds Forthcoming? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Sn0OUrppU)” video has made some interesting statements that need to be heeded.

The bigger question now is;
Should all media outlets who profess to be seekers of the truth & that includes forums be promoting or letting others promote their dis-info via their resources?

Isn't it now time that folk took out their axes and sharpened them for they have a long and busy schedule ahead of chopping down all the rotten trees that they have idly aloud to take root and grow.

How can change come about if folk who talk about change are in turn guardians of the rotten forests?
How can change come about if all those who stand up after seeing through the smoke are chopped down themselves by the very ones who profess to be truthers?

Be in the world. But do not allow the world be in you.
-*-

[Prodigal Son]

Drake is now talking about NESARA funds and that makes him as fake as a snake!


I would have whole-heartedly agreed with you as little as an hour ago.....

But after reading this.... I'm not so sure that Drake is full of it.....

History Of NESARA
Compiled by Nancy B. Detweiler, M. Ed., M. Div.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/96301168/History-of-NESARA-By-Nancy-Detweiler

All these convenient plane crashes that always seem to benefit the banking cartel, or save them from imminent doom...from Paul Wellstone to those four on 911....

I have had a very strong belief that the Naval Intelligence wing of the Pentagon were specifically attacked because they were not going along with the Cabal's program, but it turns out that they were presenting a much more serious threat to them, and were specifically targeted on 911.

Apparently, these "White Hats" or "White Knights" in the Pentagon were and ARE for real.... I just wish she hadn't mentioned the stuff about Janet Reno and Bill Clinton being cloned to keep the game going.... of course something like that will bring the incredulous out en masse.....

[promezeus]

I listened to the "Redneck Mansion" video "update". My feeling was clear from the start. This is just another jerk shooting off his mouth for his moment of fame. What is the update? He said he got some new info on drake that changed his mind. What info? He didn't even bother to share that info except to say that Nesara is a fake. Does he not know that there are two Nesaras, a real one and a fake one supposedly? If he does know that, then why is he not talking about that?? He is just another loud mouth trash talker repeating the same old stuff and wasting our time. Isn't that obvious?

IT's easy to become cynical like this guy, but cynicism is simply the opposite of naivete, and neither is discernment. The truth is that there is always a bigger picture than the one we are seeing now. We have to be open to new updates in the matrix software program as well as re-cognizing our own personal software program. ;)

[LarryC]

I listened to the "Redneck Mansion" video "update". My feeling was clear from the start. This is just another jerk shooting off his mouth for his moment of fame. What is the update? He said he got some new info on drake that changed his mind. What info? He didn't even bother to share that info except to say that Nesara is a fake. Does he not know that there are two Nesaras, a real one and a fake one supposedly? If he does know that, then why is he not talking about that?? He is just another loud mouth trash talker repeating the same old stuff and wasting our time. Isn't that obvious?

IT's easy to become cynical like this guy, but cynicism is simply the opposite of naivete, and neither is discernment. The truth is that there is always a bigger picture than the one we are seeing now. We have to be open to new updates in the matrix software program as well as re-cognizing our own personal software program. ;)

That was my reaction as well. Notice how the video distracts you with these admittedly funny and entertaining images, along with the rhyming lines, "Drake is a fake" and so forth. The same with videos by JohnnyDontPlay, who basically swears a lot and calls Drake a " F*^%4 liar." Just more words, delivered in a way that's meant to sound authoritative but that's really a kind of propaganda. Finally, the videos by DeepSpace (I believe they were posted in this thread) -he's a little more balanced, but he seems to discredit info simply because he's skeptical about ETs (e.g. he's convinced Bill Wood is lying because of his claim of having been trained by gray ETs).

Skeptics may complain that there's no proof for the claims of Drake, Wilcock, Fulford Brockbader, etc. But the naysayers don't have proof either -they're just starting from the premise that certain ideas (Nesara, ETs...) are not true and then concluding these people must be liars or deluded. So we really have to make up our own minds, as with everything else.

[Avocadess]

Link to Drake's Sunday radio show of June 10, 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmVPHv9ZfA&;feature=em-uploademail

I apologize that I am unable to post notes from the show at this time as I literally do not have time even to listen to the show yet. I will post notes when I do get a chance to really sit down and listen to the whole show.

I will however tell you that Drake started the show off giving the example of the fellow in Italy who posted yesterday about how he cannot get money out of his bank and has been told by his bank he cannot get any money out for 30 days and he has only 20 Euros for himself and his family and is wondering what he is going to do.

Drake points out that before too long this COULD be happening to us in the U.S. NOW IS THE TIME to set up yourself as best you can with survival items -- whatever YOU need -- as best you can. Those who can afford it, buy some "junk silver" and you may have something to barter with. That's all I can cover from the show for now!

[gripreaper]

It is pretty clear to me that the HUGE TRANSITION is still coming; and as said by Cobra, if the elite does not publicly conceded and remove themselves from offices of power by approx. June 22nd, the mass arrests will STILL BE ON.

This is going to happen. One way or the other, it is happening, and it is happening soon.

I appreciate your passion and resolve to energetically hold this intention for the future, and to this I am in total agreement with you. I want and also hold the energy for transformation of consciousness and moving into a new paradigm going forward, but let's be clear about what is manifesting so far in our 3D reality:

The arrests are not substantiated by any rule of law filings, with the actual date stamps for these filings, either at the Hague or the world court, or any other venue, or jurisdiction, which is available to any of us to verify, if such charges were filed in either a De Facto Bar Association court venue jurisdiction, or a De Jure private Common Law venue.

The ET's interventions are subjective beliefs, based on dreams by some and personal subjective contact experiences of others. The rest of us are not included in this subjective experience and therefore have no reference to connect to such existential variables.

So far, the dates of such mass arrests have been postponed due to extraneous circumstances, and due to the sensitivity of the negotiations between the empathic souls who want change, and the nefarious psychopaths who own and run everything. Apparently, as it should be obvious by now even to the neophyte, that these elite oligarchs who own and control everything, are not going to go quietly into the night, or surrender, or willingly give up their power. the idea that these powerful elite are running scared, have been starved of resources, and are backed into a corner is also very subjective and is not substantiated by ANY facts which we can look at and verify.

So, although I want the same things you do, and I would certainly welcome a united front against these cabalistic banksters, so far, all we have is subjective viewpoints, hearsay innuendo, and unsubstantiated information.

[promezeus]

The original lawsuit filed by attorneys for neil keenan representing the dragon family against the federal reserve banks is apparently quite real as shown in this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnaibPcUsY

I have seen a longer version showing more stamped docs but I'm unable to locate it at present.

The commercial filings shown on wilcocks site that were done after the original court filings are not verifiable in public to my knowledge.

[gripreaper]

The original lawsuit filed by attorneys for neil keenan representing the dragon family against the federal reserve banks is apparently quite real as shown in this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnaibPcUsY

I have seen a longer version showing more stamped docs but I'm unable to locate it at present.

The commercial filings shown on wilcocks site that were done after the original court filings are not verifiable in public to my knowledge.

I'm aware of the Keenan and Scott case in New York, and I have actually read the whole case. As I have stated elsewhere, New York having jurisdiction over international defendants, seems improper to me. Also, if my memory serves me right, the case is not against the Federal Reserve.

In addition, Keenan and Scott being mentored by Winston Shrout, to also file paperwork in the private, is a huge red flag to me. Mixing public and private processes, means your status is in question, and could throw the whole thing out.

So, although the Kennan and Scott case accuses certain individuals of stealing bonds, I don't see the connection between this case and the "mass arrests" of the elite banksters.

[promezeus]

I have no knowledge of the jurisdictional or other legal aspects. The defendant called OITC is the link to the federal reserve and the reason for the purported commercial liens being filed against them and their cronies in europe. The delay of the mass arrests, according to drake, was due to finalization of 'legalities', all or part of which involved this lawsuit. Of course, in the last update, the mass arrests have supposedly been put on hold while the cabal negotiates its surrender .

[gripreaper]

I don't know who put this together, but it's inspiring.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVBEO7r-CZM&feature=youtu.be

[Journeyon]

Gripreaper, Thank you for this beautiful video! It made my heart swell and I feel like it is only a matter of time before we (humanity) demand the change! No matter if Drake and the mass arrests happen or not. We are moving to being free and business as usual is over.

Peace,
Journeyon

[Ishtar]

The defendant called OITC is the link to the federal reserve and the reason for the purported commercial liens being filed against them and their cronies in europe.

The OITC is an organisation that calls itself the Office of International Treasury Control. According to Wikipedia, OITC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control) has tried to run scams in Ecuador, Fiji and the United Kingdom, and one of its directors was imprisoned. The OITC also claims to be chartered under a United Nations number, but this has turned out to be false.

The OITC website is here (http://www.unoitc.org/).

[Kimberley]

***

Banks Preparing for Lock Down.

Euro preparing to stop block state borders.

Icfqgjyvv1M

[A Simple Human]

***

Banks Preparing for Lock Down.

Euro preparing to stop block state borders.


@ Kimberley,

Here's the link to the article discussed in the YouTube video:

EU discuss 'limiting ATM withdrawals' (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0612/breaking24.html) (Irish Times)

EU discuss 'limiting ATM withdrawals'
irishtimes.com - Tuesday, June 12, 2012

European finance officials have discussed limiting the size of withdrawals from ATM machines, imposing border checks and introducing euro zone capital controls as a worst-case scenario should Athens decide to leave the euro.

EU officials said the ideas are part of a range of contingency plans. They emphasised that the discussions were merely about being prepared for any eventuality rather than planning for something they expect to happen.

But with increased political uncertainty in Greece following the inconclusive election on May 6th and ahead of a second election on June 17th, there is now an increased need to have contingencies in place, the EU sources said.

Continue reading the rest by clicking the link above...

[A Simple Human]

Jet exhaust or government conspiracy?

iC7w-xsMW0M

Jet exhaust or government conspiracy? (http://www.nbc-2.com/story/12424521/jet-exhaust-or-government-conspiracy)

Posted: May 04, 2010 2:29 PM EDT Updated: May 5, 2010 06:31 PM
By Andy Pierrotti, NBC2 Investigator - bio | email

When Drake Bailey looks up, he doesn't see Mother Nature at work. Instead, this Venice, Florida resident says he sees the weather ‘big brother' wanted him to have.

"When I was a kid in the 1950's, winters were different. Well, has anything changed that? You start asking questions and eventually you end up at places that give you the answers," Bailey told us.

His answer? Chemtrails.

But in order to understand chemtrails, you need a little science lesson about their counterparts called contrails. Contrail is short for condensation trail, or the visible trail of condensed water vapor made by the exhaust of airplane engines.

Bailey's theory is that chemicals are being added to jet fuel turning contrails into chemtrails. The government then uses ground technology to superheat the air, releasing those chemicals. Depending on the type of chemical, rain clouds will form, or be prevented from forming. The end result? The government can control droughts, floods, even hurricanes.

Both the History and the Discovery channel have produced documentaries about the theory. Books have been written; even federal agencies like the Air Force and the Environmental Protection Agency have had to address thousands of inquiries about the subject.

Where's the proof? Well, scientists have put chemicals in the atmosphere before.

Meteorologists call it cloud seeding. While it has a very minimal effect, scientists have produced rain by spreading dry ice, or silver iodide, in the upper parts of clouds.

In the 1960s and '70s the government attempted something similar with a project called Storm Fury. It was a partnership with the Navy to try and reduce the strength of hurricanes by cooling and weakening the storm's core.

"The problem is, this Storm Fury idea didn't work," said Dr. Chris Landsea, with the National Hurricane Center in Miami. "They tried it around a few storms. It turns out what they were doing essentially had no effect."

As for chemtrails? Dr. Landsea says they're not real.

"Unfortunately, large-scale weather modification is just science fiction at this point. There are theories into how you could do it but practicality it just doesn't work," he said.

He says what theorists call chemtrails, are really lingering contrails produced by the right weather conditions. We may see more of them in Florida because our high humidity can make contrails grow and stick around for much longer than in places with lower humidity levels.

But Bailey doesn't buy it, and neither do thousands of others who blame the government, not Mother Nature, for the weather.

More information about chemtrails and chemtrail conspiracy theories:
Chemtrail Central (http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/)
Chemtrail conspiracy theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory)
Discovery Channel: Best Evidence: Chemical Contrails (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBWtHBIhPQ8) (YouTube video)
History Channel documentary on chemtrails and weather warfare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fwHkp7yQCs) (YouTube video)

[foreverfan]

Attention... Wednesday 8pm CST. Looks interesting..

Surrender of the Cabal, Mass Arrests (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/06/14/the-light-agenda)

I can tell you now, that it is an enlightening, informative and revealing conversation. A solid interview with a guest who not only surprised me, but who did not try to shy away from any of the questions I had.

So what did we talk about? Heaps!

Using voice modulation technology to protect Cobra’s identity – as agreed (so please be aware of this when you tune in) – Cobra talks about the current state of negotiations for the surrender of the Cabal, the recent call for us to vote, the faltering world financial system and the mass arrests. It is up-to-date ‘insider’ intel and I was amazed to hear it.

[applecrusher1992]

I liked the show too and my feeling is good on this but there are contradictions between cobra and drake that I don't like. One of the things that cobra said was that he knew 10 years ago the mass arrest were decided for april 2012. However drake said it was only decided after the papers were sent to the Hague last year. What's up with that? This is a contradiction to me and one I don't take lightly.

[Blueskywalking]

dupe...................

[Kimberley]

I can tell you now, that it is an enlightening, informative and revealing conversation. A solid interview with a guest who not only surprised me, but who did not try to shy away from any of the questions I had.

So what did we talk about? Heaps!



Foreverfan are you Stephen Cook...the person that did the interview?

If not where is the reference to what you posted?

Thanks

Much love!

[Avocadess]

Interview with the person code-named COBRA of Portal 2012 (from last evening) clarifying what is going on with the mass arrests and/or surrender of the dark cabal, etc.:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy6lfllufCQ&;feature=em-uploademail


I'm still setting into my new home as well as a new job and hope to be blogging more often by sometime next week.


Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

[Avocadess]

Sounds like Cobra is saying that if the Cabal does NOT surrender by about June 23, then it's all going to be much harder but the mass arrests will happen. The banks will have to all close down first in that case before the mass arrests.

It is very hard to know what the Cabal will do. They don't think the same way most humans do. It would obviously be in their best interest to surrender, but will they? We just don't know yet.

Many people may feel great discomfort during all the transition -- especially those who have not been awake due to their lifelong programming -- but once the transition has finished everyone will like it.

Cobra explains about the Archons. I really need to hear that part again, but the Archons do a lot to influence how people feel and what they think (including the Cabal and the Lightworkers). The mass meditations have been especially helpful in getting a victory over the Archons. Cobra says we have had a lot of success removing the Archons in the base few weeks, but not 100% yet. Not all of them have yet been removed from the astral planes and in the physical (in the Jesuit faction). The Jesuit faction is a religious military group that has influenced most of the events in human history over the past 400 years or so. They understand occult technologies, how the human mind works, etc. They are infiltrated in the top parts of the Catholic Church (and most of them are in Italy right now).

What is actually happening is being reported nowhere, according to Cobra. Cobra speaks only about things about which he is allowed to speak. When he is allowed he puts the information on his website http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

Cobra talks about going physically onto a ship with the Pleiadians in this life. Cobra was born to human parents but has an "unbroken" connection to a previous life in Pleiades. It was very hard for Cobra to come back to Earth life because the vibrations with the Pleiadians was so much higher.

The condition before the Pleiadians to will come reveal themselves to us en mass is that first the Cabal must be removed. It will begin with a few individuals and the media and then there will be some fly-overs....

Cobra explained that after the Cabal has surrendered the United Nations will no longer be under the Cabal's control.

Pleiadians will appear first among ET races because they are the most like humans both psychologically and physically.

[Maunagarjana]

Cobra explains about the Archons. I really need to hear that part again, but the Archons do a lot to influence how people feel and what they think (including the Cabal and the Lightworkers). The mass meditations have been especially helpful in getting a victory over the Archons. Cobra says we have had a lot of success removing the Archons in the base few weeks, but not 100% yet. Not all of them have yet been removed from the astral planes and in the physical (in the Jesuit faction). The Jesuit faction is a religious military group that has influenced most of the events in human history over the past 400 years or so. They understand occult technologies, how the human mind works, etc. They are infiltrated in the top parts of the Catholic Church (and most of them are in Italy right now).

I find this interesting, because when people talk about the cabal, not many seem to think of the Jesuits. People tend to focus more on the money side of things. If you ask the average person, the Jesuits are just missionaries and intellectuals. But he calls them the physical Archons. Hmm. This is what he says about them on his site:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/forces-of-light-and-forces-of-darkness.html


"Jesuit faction. This faction was very powerful until early 1800s when the Rothschild faction took over. About 10% of Jesuits belong to this faction, among with some cardinals, black pope (Adolfo Nicolas), white pope (Joseph Ratzinger) and black nobility families of Italy. This group was created in the year 325 at the Council of Nicea where Constantine created Christian Cult in order to destroy gnostic mysteries (Gnostic Christianity included). It continued to thrive as Holy Inquisition and still heavily infiltrates many Catholic organizations. Its main sphere of influence is South America and Africa. Their main motivation was spiritual control and oppression of humanity. Now their main motive is simply to stay alive. After the Event, there will be a great purification of all mainstream religions as they will be aligned with the truth."

[aranuk]

I like very much like Cobra (at Portal 2012), but don't know who s/he is. Reading and hearing the messages at Portal 2012 seem to "pull all the ends together" for me. It also makes it more real for me the ET participation in what is going on.

It is pretty clear to me that the HUGE TRANSITION is still coming; and as said by Cobra, if the elite does not publicly conceded and remove themselves from offices of power by approx. June 22nd, the mass arrests will STILL BE ON.

Thanks for posting that video, foreverfan -- I was going to post that one just now!! =)

And, to be honest, I actually feel just as comfortable -- if not MORE comfortable -- listening to Cobra at Portal 2012 as I do listening to Drake himself. (Even though I live in Texas and was born here, some of the Southern style gets to be a bit much for me at times. I'm okay with it, but prefer Cobra's style.)

Cobra also explains that if the Cabal does NOT abdicate and step down by June 22nd, the MASS ARREST SCENARIO WILL CONTINUE.

This is going to happen. One way or the other, it is happening, and it is happening soon.

Hi Avocadess I listened to the Cobra interview last night and think he backs up what Drake is saying. I feel he is doing what he says he is. It's the first time I have heard him and I have never read any of his statements in blogs etc. I visited his website and had trouble finding anything to read that he wrote. he sounds English to my ears. He isn't American as even an accent would be detectable through all the voice obscuity.

Stan

[karelia]

What Cobra tells about being on a Pleiadian ship and about Pleiadians in general sounds 100% true to me.

From what I'm getting, what he posts "in code" is not code but triggers to those here on the planet for a specific purpose.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about this, lol.

[aranuk]

What Cobra tells about being on a Pleiadian ship and about Pleiadians in general sounds 100% true to me.

From what I'm getting, what he posts "in code" is not code but triggers to those here on the planet for a specific purpose.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about this, lol.

Hi Karelia, what do you mean about code? Can you show me where he says this or posts he made ? I can't find anything he wrote?
Edit: Why did he chose a name that is a snake I wonder? Snakes have forked tongues don't they?

Stan

[foreverfan]

I can tell you now, that it is an enlightening, informative and revealing conversation. A solid interview with a guest who not only surprised me, but who did not try to shy away from any of the questions I had.

So what did we talk about? Heaps!



Foreverfan are you Stephen Cook...the person that did the interview?

If not where is the reference to what you posted?

Thanks

Much love!

You got me... Wait... Avocadess bailed me out on this. :wizard:



What is actually happening is being reported nowhere, according to Cobra. Cobra speaks only about things about which he is allowed to speak. When he is allowed he puts the information on his website http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

[aranuk]

I just noticed that my flag above my avatar is a Scottish flag called the Saltire. It shouldn't have uk written on it.
I know that it is part of the union jack. The Union Jack is British, but the Saltire is the Scottish flag.

Stan

[karelia]

Hi Karelia, what do you mean about code? Can you show me where he says this or posts he made ? I can't find anything he wrote?
Edit: Why did he chose a name that is a snake I wonder? Snakes have forked tongues don't they?

Stan

Hi Stan,
With "code" I mean the messages he posts allegedly for insiders. I read it somewhere, probably on his website or possibly on kauilapele's blog. Those short messages he posts that don't seem to have any meaning.

As to his name, I have no idea why except that reptiles do not equal reptilians.

[LarryC]

Cobra explains about the Archons. I really need to hear that part again, but the Archons do a lot to influence how people feel and what they think (including the Cabal and the Lightworkers). The mass meditations have been especially helpful in getting a victory over the Archons. Cobra says we have had a lot of success removing the Archons in the base few weeks, but not 100% yet. Not all of them have yet been removed from the astral planes and in the physical (in the Jesuit faction). The Jesuit faction is a religious military group that has influenced most of the events in human history over the past 400 years or so. They understand occult technologies, how the human mind works, etc. They are infiltrated in the top parts of the Catholic Church (and most of them are in Italy right now).

I find this interesting, because when people talk about the cabal, not many seem to think of the Jesuits. People tend to focus more on the money side of things. If you ask the average person, the Jesuits are just missionaries and intellectuals. But he calls them the physical Archons. Hmm. This is what he says about them on his site:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/forces-of-light-and-forces-of-darkness.html


"Jesuit faction. This faction was very powerful until early 1800s when the Rothschild faction took over. About 10% of Jesuits belong to this faction, among with some cardinals, black pope (Adolfo Nicolas), white pope (Joseph Ratzinger) and black nobility families of Italy. This group was created in the year 325 at the Council of Nicea where Constantine created Christian Cult in order to destroy gnostic mysteries (Gnostic Christianity included). It continued to thrive as Holy Inquisition and still heavily infiltrates many Catholic organizations. Its main sphere of influence is South America and Africa. Their main motivation was spiritual control and oppression of humanity. Now their main motive is simply to stay alive. After the Event, there will be a great purification of all mainstream religions as they will be aligned with the truth."

This is strange, because I listened to the whole Cobra interview last night and I remember him saying something different. I remember it, because it surprised me when he said that the Rothschilds were slaves to the Jesuits. But in the above paragraph, it says that the Jesuits lost most of their power in the 1800s. This seems like a pretty big contradiction unless I heard him wrong.

[promezeus]

I listened to the Cobra interview and got the feeling he was credible. I was expecting to be disappointed, but I felt he was more credible than Drake, Fulford, Wilcock, etc, although he also claims to be aligned with those characters. Cobra says the Cabal has until june 21 to surrender so we don't have long to wait for that to pan out or not. He says the timing of the cabal takedown this year has been planned for at least 10 years and is directly correlated with the energetic changes coming into the planet. He says the cabal will be erased one way or another, so it is in their interest to surrender now and save themselves from harsher punishment. If they do surrender and announce it publicly, then the transition will be peaceful. If they don’t surrender, their access to funds will be cut off and the mass arrest scenario will take place. We shall see.

In an earlier post, he says:

"Planet Earth is the last planet in this universe under the occupation of the Dark Forces, the last relic of galactic wars that raged throughout the galaxy for millions of years."

I find that statement hard to believe for some reason.

[Chester]

What Cobra tells about being on a Pleiadian ship and about Pleiadians in general sounds 100% true to me.

From what I'm getting, what he posts "in code" is not code but triggers to those here on the planet for a specific purpose.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about this, lol.

I want to believe this to be true. Unfortunately I have had direct experience with archons and archon directed experiences which tied in directly with Horus-Ra. In reading Truman Cash's "Eye of Ra" its clear Truman perceives the Pleiadians to be the ET group behind the Horus-Ra group and which were involved with satanic practices, specifically human sacrifice.

Now none of the information I just covered is "provable" via the normal means of proof requirements, but my purpose in bringing this up is to present the following question.

Is it possible that within the Pleiadian ET group, some are (or were) malevolent and some are benevolent? Clearly we have some trustworthy folks amongst humanity and we have some real turds so that certainly could be true of Pleiadians, but I wish someone on the inside would address this concern.

Psychopathy isn't restricted solely to humanity and in fact may have been introduced to humanity via this very same ET group.

[foreverfan]

Drake?

How did I miss this. He certainly looks credible to me. :tongue1:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iC7w-xsMW0M

[Chester]

What Cobra tells about being on a Pleiadian ship and about Pleiadians in general sounds 100% true to me.

From what I'm getting, what he posts "in code" is not code but triggers to those here on the planet for a specific purpose.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about this, lol.

Hi Karelia, what do you mean about code? Can you show me where he says this or posts he made ? I can't find anything he wrote?
Edit: Why did he chose a name that is a snake I wonder? Snakes have forked tongues don't they?

Stan

And just after my last post... it is interesting that Truman Cash calls the Pleiadians - the "Serpent Staff Pleiadians."

I highly recommend folks interested in all this Drake, Mass Arrest, Good ETs drama check out Truman's e-book - it is free -

"The Eye of Ra"

Note: I do not have anything against snakes, reptiles, dragons nor Dragons. Just because one has achieved gnosis does not mean one chooses to be a jerk.

[A Simple Human]

Drake?

How did I miss this. He certainly looks credible to me. :tongue1:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iC7w-xsMW0M

;) post #1707 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43793-Drake-Updates-clarifications-and-more&p=505688&viewfull=1#post505688)

[RMorgan]

Hahahaha! This is pretty funny!

First Drake (Dragon), now Cobra (Snake)...What´s next in the reptile family? Lizard?

Raf.

[Chester]

Hahahaha! This is pretty funny!

First Drake (Dragon), now Cobra (Snake)...What´s next in the reptile family? Lizard?

Raf.

turtles, frogs, crocodiles and alligators and a few others... dinosaurs and Draconians and some say the Sirians may be reptillian

I would probably fit into the "Ordo Secreto de FROG" due to my horrid diet

[gripreaper]

Hahahaha! This is pretty funny!

First Drake (Dragon), now Cobra (Snake)...What´s next in the reptile family? Lizard?

Raf.

But what would your name be if you were a lizard? Lazarus?

[Maunagarjana]

This is strange, because I listened to the whole Cobra interview last night and I remember him saying something different. I remember it, because it surprised me when he said that the Rothschilds were slaves to the Jesuits. But in the above paragraph, it says that the Jesuits lost most of their power in the 1800s. This seems like a pretty big contradiction unless I heard him wrong.

Yes, Larry, I do believe you are right. I distinctly remember him saying that the Rothschilds were controlled by the Jesuits. Thanks for pointing that out. Obviously, it can't be both ways. Maybe a comment on his blog asking him directly which statement is true would sort this out.

[Maunagarjana]

What Cobra tells about being on a Pleiadian ship and about Pleiadians in general sounds 100% true to me.

From what I'm getting, what he posts "in code" is not code but triggers to those here on the planet for a specific purpose.

Of course, I may be completely wrong about this, lol.

I want to believe this to be true. Unfortunately I have had direct experience with archons and archon directed experiences which tied in directly with Horus-Ra. In reading Truman Cash's "Eye of Ra" its clear Truman perceives the Pleiadians to be the ET group behind the Horus-Ra group and which were involved with satanic practices, specifically human sacrifice.

Now none of the information I just covered is "provable" via the normal means of proof requirements, but my purpose in bringing this up is to present the following question.

Is it possible that within the Pleiadian ET group, some are (or were) malevolent and some are benevolent? Clearly we have some trustworthy folks amongst humanity and we have some real turds so that certainly could be true of Pleiadians, but I wish someone on the inside would address this concern.

Psychopathy isn't restricted solely to humanity and in fact may have been introduced to humanity via this very same ET group.


I'm sure there are people on this forum who know more about the Pleiadians than I, but we are kind of at a disadvantage in that they seem to know a whole lot about us and we know very little about them and their history. We know there are many who claim to have met them and describe them as Nordic looking. But do we even know these Nordics are really from the Pleiades? They could be from somewhere else and just say "the Pleiades". Onyxknight, a contactee on this forum, has suggested just this and has claimed that the real Pleiadians have bright red skin. There seem to be many of these Nordic groups out there. Orion Nordics (who George Kavassilas has warned about), Aldebaran Nordics (who seem to have connections with the Thule Society and the Nazis), and so forth.

I will quote Onyxknight in one of his posts in his "ET Contact" thread (which I have been reading recently, in case you can't tell):


'Nordics', 'Grays' and 'Reptoids' are very general terms that people use. Its like saying Europeans when referring to a person who you had contact to. Europe is a sum of many countries, and like so, all these labels encompass large number of civilizations, not necessarily all "positive", and not all "negative" either. That's why there is so much confusion among abductees and contactees and their experience.

[SilentFeathers]

Hahahaha! This is pretty funny!

First Drake (Dragon), now Cobra (Snake)...What´s next in the reptile family? Lizard?

Raf.

You forgot "Lady Dragon" in the list of Drake (Draco), Cobra:

Serpent: (from Merriam-Webster)
1: a noxious creature that creeps, hisses, or stings b : snake
2: devil
3: a treacherous person

Ancient Serpent myths and legends in Egypt etc., are even more interesting than Merriam-Websters :)

[Ishtar]

The cowardly use of their own people as weapons of war seems instinctive to some, (Libya, Syria, Egypt etc.) and not least the American military of which Drake was a part. He is still taking his instructions from the Pentagon.

Those that want to be used as cannon fodder by the precious metal speculators, like Steve Qayle, Alex Jones and others that are trying to cause panic with disinformation to force up the price of silver, should pay attention to what's happening in Egypt right now. The so-called Tahrir Square revolution turned out to be a military coup but with a Muslim face.

When I spot anomalies in the messages ~ such as the one above about the Jesuits, the differences about whether the Pleiadians are the good guys or bad guys, and also the recent faux-pas when Wilcock put out his latest blog entry before reading the memo about the vote on the cabal ~ I know that I'm being manipulated by a bunch that can't even get their story straight.

If they can't even get their story straight now, what sort of competence in government can we expect from them, should they prevail?

There is one thing they all agree on, however... there will be no ET fly-bys until after the revolution. How very convenient.

Carrot and stick.

The carrot is ETs with more advanced techology (as if advanced technology is going to help us all get on with one another better, but anyway...) and the stick is imminent economic collapse.

[Fred Steeves]

Cobra says the Cabal has until june 21 to surrender so we don't have long to wait for that to pan out or not.


I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here, and make a rather bold (not so much) prediction: Once June 21st comes and goes, there will be yet another excuse, and another reason to wait patiently.

Cheere,
Fred

[SilentFeathers]

Cobra says the Cabal has until june 21 to surrender so we don't have long to wait for that to pan out or not.


I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here, and make a rather bold (not so much) prediction: Once June 21st comes and goes, there will be yet another excuse, and another reason to wait patiently.

Cheere,
Fred

I seriously do not think it's you Fred that's going waaaaayyyyyy out on a limb pertaining to this subject matter :)

[foreverfan]

I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here, and make a rather bold (not so much) prediction: Once June 21st comes and goes, there will be yet another excuse, and another reason to wait patiently.

Cheere,
Fred

Don't hurt yourself... I heard that limb was mighty crowded. Hopefully it will break soon and all of us can fall on our collective fat asses. That would be something huh? Hang in there.

http://www.imbecile.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cat-hanging-on-branch-tree.jpg

[gripreaper]

Cobra says the Cabal has until june 21 to surrender so we don't have long to wait for that to pan out or not.


I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here, and make a rather bold (not so much) prediction: Once June 21st comes and goes, there will be yet another excuse, and another reason to wait patiently.

Cheere,
Fred

I seriously do not think it's you Fred that's going waaaaayyyyyy out on a limb pertaining to this subject matter :)

Well we have corroborating evidence now from COBRA as to what is happening! here is an excerpt!

Galactic Federation. This is a loose confederate union of positive civilizations within this Galaxy, such as Pleiadians, Sirians, Arcturians… Its leaders are ascended masters, beings that live in enlightened state of consciousness. Ashtar Command is a section of Galactic Confederation which primary function is to liberate planet Earth from the grip of the dark forces.

They have many physical motherships in Earth orbit that are cloaked with tachyonic membrane and are thus non-detectable for all optical/radar instruments of the Cabal. They have prevented nuclear war on Earth many times over. Also, they have prevented many earthquakes as they stabilize tectonic plate activity. Their main motivation is to share happiness and love they have achieved themselves as a result of their spiritual growth, with not so fortunate Earth population.

There is a strong disinfo campaign against Galactic Confederation that started in mid-90s as the Cabal realized that Galactic Confederation is a serious threat to their New World Order plans. Many Earth based contactees for the Confederation were subjected to intense Monarch mind programming and in fact “Ashtar Command” was made to be a trigger word to activate strong denial alters. This programming also resulted in most channels to lose contact with the Confederation and they began channeling astral shells instead. This served to additionally disprove channeling as a reliable source to get higherdimesional information. Today there are very few reliable channels but that does not change the fact that Galactic Confederation is a very strong and reliable force that will make itself known at the time of First Contact.


Resistance Movement. This is a group of freedom fighters who live in subterranean dwellings in the upper part of Earth’s crust. They have a constant physical contact with underground Pleiadian bases in Himalaya and under Bora-Bora island. Their official public contact is Cobra.

With assistance from the Confederation, they have cleared all remaining Reptilian forces from this solar system. Shortly after the year 2000 they have also cleared all subterranean Reptilian bases in severe battles. Then they shifted their focus towards clearing most black budget military programs and technologies, which they did successfully.

After that they have placed their agents inside the military and alphabet agencies to help the Positive Military group with their Plan that is coming to fruition now. Main motivation of the Resistance Movement is to help liberate the planet, so they can stop living in caves and move on to more prospective missions elsewhere in the Galaxy.

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/forces-of-light-and-forces-of-darkness.html


Looks like things are shaping up to happen this weekend with the collapse of the Euro, bank holidays, solar flares, EMP knocking out electronics, spaceships now in full visual, the collateral accounts released, and all of the nefarious evil guys have been taken out by the benevolent ET's !!!

Rejoice my friend, grab a beer and sit back and watch the show!!!

[SilentFeathers]

Well we have corroborating evidence now from COBRA as to what is happening! here is an excerpt!

Galactic Federation. This is a loose confederate union of positive civilizations within this Galaxy, such as Pleiadians, Sirians, Arcturians… Its leaders are ascended masters, beings that live in enlightened state of consciousness. Ashtar Command is a section of Galactic Confederation which primary function is to liberate planet Earth from the grip of the dark forces.

They have many physical motherships in Earth orbit that are cloaked with tachyonic membrane and are thus non-detectable for all optical/radar instruments of the Cabal. They have prevented nuclear war on Earth many times over. Also, they have prevented many earthquakes as they stabilize tectonic plate activity. Their main motivation is to share happiness and love they have achieved themselves as a result of their spiritual growth, with not so fortunate Earth population.

There is a strong disinfo campaign against Galactic Confederation that started in mid-90s as the Cabal realized that Galactic Confederation is a serious threat to their New World Order plans. Many Earth based contactees for the Confederation were subjected to intense Monarch mind programming and in fact “Ashtar Command” was made to be a trigger word to activate strong denial alters. This programming also resulted in most channels to lose contact with the Confederation and they began channeling astral shells instead. This served to additionally disprove channeling as a reliable source to get higherdimesional information. Today there are very few reliable channels but that does not change the fact that Galactic Confederation is a very strong and reliable force that will make itself known at the time of First Contact.


Resistance Movement. This is a group of freedom fighters who live in subterranean dwellings in the upper part of Earth’s crust. They have a constant physical contact with underground Pleiadian bases in Himalaya and under Bora-Bora island. Their official public contact is Cobra.

With assistance from the Confederation, they have cleared all remaining Reptilian forces from this solar system. Shortly after the year 2000 they have also cleared all subterranean Reptilian bases in severe battles. Then they shifted their focus towards clearing most black budget military programs and technologies, which they did successfully.

After that they have placed their agents inside the military and alphabet agencies to help the Positive Military group with their Plan that is coming to fruition now. Main motivation of the Resistance Movement is to help liberate the planet, so they can stop living in caves and move on to more prospective missions elsewhere in the Galaxy.

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/forces-of-light-and-forces-of-darkness.html

Thanks for the fascinating collaboration (and proving to us this stuff is real)! I can't wait till they get here!

I do wonder though if these aliens can cure the common cold or not....that's what's most important to me....

I also wonder if Osama was an alien......or was that a cave in tora tora instead of bora bora???? either way, the caves are probably still connected and they probably had lunch together at one time or another and "knew" each other. It was probably the aliens that gave him kidney treatments for all those years while he was hiding in those caves.

I see Cobra mentions that there is a strong dis-information campaign going on, I am sure glad he is not a part of it....things are confusing enough as it is without him being a part of such a deception too!

[LarryC]

Cobra says the Cabal has until june 21 to surrender so we don't have long to wait for that to pan out or not.


I'm going to go waaaaaay out on a limb here, and make a rather bold (not so much) prediction: Once June 21st comes and goes, there will be yet another excuse, and another reason to wait patiently.

Cheere,
Fred

If I had to bet, I would bet the same way, as most predictions tend to be wrong. I'm still hopeful though, naive as that might be. Cobra did actually say that there was about a 50% chance the cabal would surrender by June 21, leaving him a convenient way out if you want to be cynical about it.

[Bongo]

Thanks for the fascinating collaboration (and proving to us this stuff is real)! I can't wait till they get here!

I do wonder though if these aliens can cure the common cold or not....that's what's most important to me....

I also wonder if Osama was an alien......or was that a cave in tora tora instead of bora bora???? either way, the caves are probably still connected and they probably had lunch together at one time or another and "knew" each other. It was probably the aliens that gave him kidney treatments for all those years while he was hiding in those caves.

I see Cobra mentions that there is a strong dis-information campaign going on, I am sure glad he is not a part of it....things are confusing enough as it is without him being a part of such a deception too!

haha

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[gripreaper]

*UPDATED NOTICE*
PER DRAKE; THE ORIGINAL LADY DRAGON POLL IS CLOSED FOR INITIAL SAMPLE, PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE HERE http://www.soldierhugs.com/cabal-surrender-poll-vote/ FOR FURTHER RESULTS TO BE TABULATED TUESDAY JUNE 12th, 2012


We the People of planet Earth hereby set forth the NON-NEGOTIABLE CONDITIONS whereas to accept the COMPLETE and IRREVOCABLE PEACEFUL SURRENDER of the various Dark and Controlling factions whom have illegally and covertly usurped Human populations & societies with varying agendas intended to control, rule, manipulate, subjugate, and ultimately exterminate the majority of our Human populations. These Dark and Controlling factions have and operate under many names, structures, titles, and organizations. Some to include but not limited to are; The Illuminati, P2 Freemasons, The Cabal, Committee of 300, Bilderberg Group, The New World Order, Rothschild Group, Rockefeller Group, Neo Nazi Bush Cabal, Federal Reserve Central Banks, European Central Banks, Shadow Government, etc, etc… all hereinafter referred to as "Cabalist´s".

*Foundational Pre-Requisites*
It is understood and assumed as a Prerequisite to and in Addition of the below conditions listed, that the Cabalist´s STAND DOWN and allow a NEW GLOBAL FINANCIAL system to be enacted and ANNOUNCED; whereas the current FIAT and FRACTIONAL RESERVE Banking and Financial protocols of the FEDERAL RESERVE & ROTHSCHILD EUROPEAN banking Cartels and their Subsidiaries, are REPLACED with a new EQUITY based & ASSET backed Financial system and Currency exchange REVALUATION globally that ALIGNS with the INTERESTS and WISHES of the World populations. (ie: uS Treasury notes vs. Fed. Reserve notes) Additionally it is demanded the immediate release of the WORLD GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS, the PROSPERITY PROGRAMS, CMKX, FARM CLAIMS and all AMERICAN INDIAN SETTLEMENTS that Congress has APPROVED yet has still not funded, be RELEASED and INITIATED.

So finally the self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, bad, black, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite controllers are going to surrender, right?

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc453/TheMidnightFog/Gifs/tumblr_ljvvxcQGj71qf86qm.gif

[aranuk]

Well we have corroborating evidence now from COBRA as to what is happening! here is an excerpt!

Galactic Federation. This is a loose confederate union of positive civilizations within this Galaxy, such as Pleiadians, Sirians, Arcturians… Its leaders are ascended masters, beings that live in enlightened state of consciousness. Ashtar Command is a section of Galactic Confederation which primary function is to liberate planet Earth from the grip of the dark forces.

They have many physical motherships in Earth orbit that are cloaked with tachyonic membrane and are thus non-detectable for all optical/radar instruments of the Cabal. They have prevented nuclear war on Earth many times over. Also, they have prevented many earthquakes as they stabilize tectonic plate activity. Their main motivation is to share happiness and love they have achieved themselves as a result of their spiritual growth, with not so fortunate Earth population.

There is a strong disinfo campaign against Galactic Confederation that started in mid-90s as the Cabal realized that Galactic Confederation is a serious threat to their New World Order plans. Many Earth based contactees for the Confederation were subjected to intense Monarch mind programming and in fact “Ashtar Command” was made to be a trigger word to activate strong denial alters. This programming also resulted in most channels to lose contact with the Confederation and they began channeling astral shells instead. This served to additionally disprove channeling as a reliable source to get higherdimesional information. Today there are very few reliable channels but that does not change the fact that Galactic Confederation is a very strong and reliable force that will make itself known at the time of First Contact.


Resistance Movement. This is a group of freedom fighters who live in subterranean dwellings in the upper part of Earth’s crust. They have a constant physical contact with underground Pleiadian bases in Himalaya and under Bora-Bora island. Their official public contact is Cobra.

With assistance from the Confederation, they have cleared all remaining Reptilian forces from this solar system. Shortly after the year 2000 they have also cleared all subterranean Reptilian bases in severe battles. Then they shifted their focus towards clearing most black budget military programs and technologies, which they did successfully.

After that they have placed their agents inside the military and alphabet agencies to help the Positive Military group with their Plan that is coming to fruition now. Main motivation of the Resistance Movement is to help liberate the planet, so they can stop living in caves and move on to more prospective missions elsewhere in the Galaxy.

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/forces-of-light-and-forces-of-darkness.html

Thanks for the fascinating collaboration (and proving to us this stuff is real)! I can't wait till they get here!

I do wonder though if these aliens can cure the common cold or not....that's what's most important to me....

I also wonder if Osama was an alien......or was that a cave in tora tora instead of bora bora???? either way, the caves are probably still connected and they probably had lunch together at one time or another and "knew" each other. It was probably the aliens that gave him kidney treatments for all those years while he was hiding in those caves.

I see Cobra mentions that there is a strong dis-information campaign going on, I am sure glad he is not a part of it....things are confusing enough as it is without him being a part of such a deception too!

Why are you wondering if the aliens can cure the common cold Sir? From what I have gathered, and I am not a doctor, the common cold serves a good purpose in that it rids the body of impurities that keeps us healthy. I find your sarcastic tone unwelcoming to say the least. Which side are you on? The Cabal plans for enslaving American citizens? Or citizens resisting this plan? Simple really. Who is paying you?

Stan

[Chester]

This is strange, because I listened to the whole Cobra interview last night and I remember him saying something different. I remember it, because it surprised me when he said that the Rothschilds were slaves to the Jesuits. But in the above paragraph, it says that the Jesuits lost most of their power in the 1800s. This seems like a pretty big contradiction unless I heard him wrong.

Yes, Larry, I do believe you are right. I distinctly remember him saying that the Rothschilds were controlled by the Jesuits. Thanks for pointing that out. Obviously, it can't be both ways. Maybe a comment on his blog asking him directly which statement is true would sort this out.

The "power' wielded by the Jesuits transcends monetary power - The Jesuits are demonology experts. That is their gateway to controlling realms beyond our physical/material realm.

Those who control the human relationship with the demons perceive they control earth as most of us know earth to be.

Some of us remain outside that game and watch with amusement.

[Chester]

Hahahaha! This is pretty funny!

First Drake (Dragon), now Cobra (Snake)...What´s next in the reptile family? Lizard?

Raf.

You forgot "Lady Dragon" in the list of Drake (Draco), Cobra:

Serpent: (from Merriam-Webster)
1: a noxious creature that creeps, hisses, or stings b : snake
2: devil
3: a treacherous person

Ancient Serpent myths and legends in Egypt etc., are even more interesting than Merriam-Websters :)

4.) "Snake" Plisskin (can't forget him!)

[SilentFeathers]

Why are you wondering if the aliens can cure the common cold Sir? From what I have gathered, and I am not a doctor, the common cold serves a good purpose in that it rids the body of impurities that keeps us healthy. I find your sarcastic tone unwelcoming to say the least. Which side are you on? The Cabal plans for enslaving American citizens? Or citizens resisting this plan? Simple really. Who is paying you?

Stan

Obviously by this post and another previous on of yours Stan towards/at me, you must not like me and or what I have to say about certain things....or my occasional tone.....feel free to put me on your "ignore list" if I am so bothersome to you.

I also have no desire to engage with you concerning your ignorant accusation like questions.....

[foreverfan]

If I had to bet, I would bet the same way, as most predictions tend to be wrong. I'm still hopeful though, naive as that might be. Cobra did actually say that there was about a 50% chance the cabal would surrender by June 21, leaving him a convenient way out if you want to be cynical about it.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/bro/lowres/bron1224l.jpg

[aranuk]

Why are you wondering if the aliens can cure the common cold Sir? From what I have gathered, and I am not a doctor, the common cold serves a good purpose in that it rids the body of impurities that keeps us healthy. I find your sarcastic tone unwelcoming to say the least. Which side are you on? The Cabal plans for enslaving American citizens? Or citizens resisting this plan? Simple really. Who is paying you?

Stan

Obviously by this post and another previous on of yours Stan towards/at me, you must not like me and or what I have to say about certain things....or my occasional tone.....feel free to put me on your "ignore list" if I am so bothersome to you.

I also have no desire to engage with you concerning your ignorant accusation like questions.....

I neither like you or dislike you. I was commenting on your sarcastic words only. I do know about the ignore button, why do you think you need to mention it? I asked a civil question, which side are you on Sir? You never answered. So you think that asking you such a question that I am ignorant and accusational towards you? You say you have no desire to engage with me in dialoge? Why?
What do you fear?

Stan

[SilentFeathers]

Why are you wondering if the aliens can cure the common cold Sir? From what I have gathered, and I am not a doctor, the common cold serves a good purpose in that it rids the body of impurities that keeps us healthy. I find your sarcastic tone unwelcoming to say the least. Which side are you on? The Cabal plans for enslaving American citizens? Or citizens resisting this plan? Simple really. Who is paying you?

Stan

Obviously by this post and another previous on of yours Stan towards/at me, you must not like me and or what I have to say about certain things....or my occasional tone.....feel free to put me on your "ignore list" if I am so bothersome to you.

I also have no desire to engage with you concerning your ignorant accusation like questions.....

I neither like you or dislike you. I was commenting on your sarcastic words only. I do know about the ignore button, why do you think you need to mention it? I asked a civil question, which side are you on Sir? You never answered. So you think that asking you such a question that I am ignorant and accusational towards you? You say you have no desire to engage with me in dialoge? Why?
What do you fear?

Stan

I was under the impression that you were thinking I am on the side of the cabal which I am not, (and I am self employed and am not on the cabals payroll)
I took it for granted that you may have read other posts of mine, which if you have you may have used common sense and logic to sense I am not an pathetic elite cabal scum bag.....hence, why I thought such a question as to who is paying me was such an ignorant question. Now your implying that I fear you or your questioning which I also find a bit, well, to be more peaceful, weird.

If you have any other questions for me, blast away now while I am in the mood to answer....

[9eagle9]

If there were a Dragon Lady poll, Nancy V and myself should have been involved or at least asked (among others).

I deem the poll false, and null and void for that reason.

We'll conduct our own poll. , thanks much.

[A Simple Human]

Attention... Wednesday 8pm CST. Looks interesting..

Surrender of the Cabal, Mass Arrests (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/06/14/the-light-agenda)

I can tell you now, that it is an enlightening, informative and revealing conversation. A solid interview with a guest who not only surprised me, but who did not try to shy away from any of the questions I had.

So what did we talk about? Heaps!

Using voice modulation technology to protect Cobra’s identity – as agreed (so please be aware of this when you tune in) – Cobra talks about the current state of negotiations for the surrender of the Cabal, the recent call for us to vote, the faltering world financial system and the mass arrests. It is up-to-date ‘insider’ intel and I was amazed to hear it.

Cobra seems to have pulled a 180 from what he was saying over five months ago! :biggrin1:

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