Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[LarryC]

I didn't even realize Cobra Commander was some kind of comic book figure. So is Alex Jones implying that this new "Cobra" is really a villain?

[aranuk]

Why are you wondering if the aliens can cure the common cold Sir? From what I have gathered, and I am not a doctor, the common cold serves a good purpose in that it rids the body of impurities that keeps us healthy. I find your sarcastic tone unwelcoming to say the least. Which side are you on? The Cabal plans for enslaving American citizens? Or citizens resisting this plan? Simple really. Who is paying you?

Stan

Obviously by this post and another previous on of yours Stan towards/at me, you must not like me and or what I have to say about certain things....or my occasional tone.....feel free to put me on your "ignore list" if I am so bothersome to you.

I also have no desire to engage with you concerning your ignorant accusation like questions.....

I neither like you or dislike you. I was commenting on your sarcastic words only. I do know about the ignore button, why do you think you need to mention it? I asked a civil question, which side are you on Sir? You never answered. So you think that asking you such a question that I am ignorant and accusational towards you? You say you have no desire to engage with me in dialoge? Why?
What do you fear?

Stan

I was under the impression that you were thinking I am on the side of the cabal which I am not, (and I am self employed and am not on the cabals payroll)
I took it for granted that you may have read other posts of mine, which if you have you may have used common sense and logic to sense I am not an pathetic elite cabal scum bag.....hence, why I thought such a question as to who is paying me was such an ignorant question. Now your implying that I fear you or your questioning which I also find a bit, well, to be more peaceful, weird.

If you have any other questions for me, blast away now while I am in the mood to answer....

I have only read your posts on this thread. You seem to spend a lot of time ridiculing others here that's all I have seen. I don't don't have the time at the moment to check out all your other posts on other threads. I am puting you on ignore.

Stan

[Avocadess]

Galactic Federation of Light permission to arrest members of the Cabal / Illuminati:


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/galactic-federation-of-light-permission-to-arrest-members-of-the-cabal-illuminati/


My feeling is this: I don't know these people or beings of the Galactic Federation of Light, but if they are able to arrest the Dark Cabal that has been murdering and polluting and destroying this Earth and its Life for hundreds of years and they are polite enough to ask our PERMISSION first to do it -- I say YES, PLEASE DO...~! I signed the Petition and hope you will too. I also shared it on my Facebook and Twitter.

I'm late on reporting this. Their goal is 10,000 signatures and last I checked that are short 66 votes to reach 10,000.


Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

Avocadess

(Still sewing curtains for my new place. Expect to be around more by end of next week!)

[Avocadess]

Re the Alex Jones piece on "Commander Cobra," this clinches it for me that Alex Jones is a puppet of the Cabal. They love him because he achieves two of their greatest goals: (1) He instills FEAR without solutions; (2) he demonizes Lightworkers like Cobra from Portal 2012.

[scarletfire]

Re the Alex Jones piece on "Commander Cobra," this clinches it for me that Alex Jones is a puppet of the Cabal. They love him because he achieves two of their greatest goals: (1) He instills FEAR without solutions; (2) he demonizes Lightworkers like Cobra from Portal 2012.

Reading your post reminded me of what the southern poverty law center had to say about Alex Jones in their publication called "The Intelligence Report" and is named as one of the 30 new activists heading up the radical right wing. Part of me has to give Alex kudos for at least talking about issues that MSM won't touch and of course, the whole infiltration of the Bohemian Grove surely buys him at least an ounce of respect in my book. So, I am, like so many others torn with the whole situation which, I'm afraid is exactly where those in power want us. We stay in limbo without ever being entirely sure what to believe or who for that matter. If I had Alex's job I would change gears from fear porn to an attempt at inspiring people to vote and get money out of politics....to start. Demanding that the governing powers recognize that money and corporations are heartless and should not have the rights of individuals seems like absolute common sense. The problem with shoving fear down people's throats is they either want to buy guns or stick their heads in the sand, neither is very productive. Beginning of article with link to follow for those interested. Also, thanks Avocadess for all your great posting, it really is appreciated!

Alex Jones
Related Articles and Blog Posts
30 New Activists Heading Up the Radical Right (2012)
Date of Birth:
1974
Location:
Austin, Texas
Ideology:
Patriot Movement

Alex Jones knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Every week from his studio in Austin, Texas, he dives into red-faced tirades exposing the forces that threaten to enslave all human life on the planet. The conspiracy always boils down to about the same thing: eugenics operations, the militarization of the police, a cabal of wealthy corporations and the United Nations involved in a fiendish plot to control the world

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/alex-jones

[Kimberley]

**************************
Posted June 16, 2012


Open Letter to Our Military
by Drake
There have been several tasks given to different people through military command. To date all have been either completed as requested or are still developing.

This is an open letter to those who requested these specific missions. At the onset of these missions, extraordinary efforts were expended in just their start up. Each of these required a similar expending of time and effort to complete, all on a voluntary basis.

There were very few objections as to following mission parameters and instructions. Real patriots seldom complain of any hardship involved in any true patriotic effort either.

We The People have done as requested, and yet there is a great and growing concern. As many as possible have been contacted, groups, militias, and freedom loving individuals. These number in the millions here in the states, with many more millions world wide, watching closely.

Our efforts are looked at as the cornerstone to be built upon for all nations. This was only a dream of a hope for those of us most directly involved in all this. It seems that everyone is looking to us to lead the way, just as happened in part because of our war for independence.

There is and has been growing concerns as to the military's not taking action that the people see as both vital and timely. I have offered the tactical complexities, both in house and outside, as a possible reason or cause for this delay.

However, there are a growing number who are beginning to believe that there never was any intent on the military's part, to help the people in their efforts to restore our foundations, etc. This is where things are at presently.

The request is major, both for you and the people. In order to restore the faith in the military helping the people, an official statement of this intent needs to be made.

I understand all the ramifications involved in an action of this nature. Therefore, I have decided to go farther out on the limb I'm presently on, and offer you to directly contact me.

I was asked to offer several things in my broadcasts on internet radio as a help in the overall plan.
I have accepted the risks involved in the same light as our founders.
I pledge my honor, life, and fortune in this effort.
I can do no less for my country and my countrymen
We The People now respectfully request the same from our military. Note that this will be sent out to everyone I have been asked to contact. Thus, the quicker the reply, the better.

The country looks forward to your reply,.

~ Drake

http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/06/open-letter-to-our-military/

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[Kimberley]

Cobra seems to have pulled a 180 from what he was saying over five months ago! :biggrin1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3szLLlla4

I think this is a different Cobra... This is "Cobra Leader"... not "Cobra" that did his First interview last Wednesday... and "Cobra" of 2012 Portal only started that Blog in March of this year...

"Cobra Leader" seems comical to me and quite low vibrating energy also.

I could be wrong... however that is my take...

Much love!

[gripreaper]

Alex Jones knows which side his bread is buttered on. He uses mainstream media as reference for his stories, he'll expose the Bilderberg's in Virginia, but wont touch Kimble Castle next weekend...He'll expose Bohemian Grove, a bunch of campers enjoying themselves, but he wont talk about Kimble Castle next weekend...He'll expose the Bilderberg soldiers and puppets, but wont talk about the 13 families at the top...He AVOIDS 9-11 just like everybody does...

9-11 is the biggest elephant sitting in the middle of the living room, has all of it's tentacles attached to the cabal, leads directly through and to the top tier, and that's' why it's not touched.

[LarryC]

Ok, I have mixed feelings about Alex Jones, but I also want to be fair. As A Simple Human explained to me, the Cobra Commander video was a satire based on a popular cartoon that long predates the Portal2012 Cobra. Do a Google search and you'll see how popular that is. As for Alex Jones staying away from 9/11, that simply isn't true. Do a YouTube search for Alex Jones 9/11 and you'll see. As an example, see the video below -which is obviously satirical.

mZx9QhMWpYE

[Avocadess]

Thanks for the clarifications re Alex's version of "Commander Cobra," Kimberly and LarryC!

Kimberley: Thanks for posting Drake's open letter -- I just logged on to do that and see you beat me to the punch! =)

[gripreaper]

As for Alex Jones staying away from 9/11, that simply isn't true. Do a YouTube search for Alex Jones 9/11 and you'll see.

Ok, let me clarify. OF COURSE Alex Jones has mentioned 9-11, but does he point the finger at a group of terrorists? Does he talk about the nano-thermite and the explosions? Does he talk about the stellar technology used? Does he implicate the neocons such as Bush and Chaney? Does he tie it to the Elite at the top? Does he implicate the US government?

Does he keep on it and keep on it until a new investigation is opened and the scum who did it brought to justice?

I rest my case.

[LarryC]

Honestly, Alex Jones makes many videos and has a popular website which I seldom visit so I can't say exactly what he has and hasn't covered. But if you poke holes in the official version, what other alternative is there but to implicate the elite? There are also many other issues out there. I'm not sure everyone has to focus on 9/11 to be considered authentic. I actually think some conspiracy folks get a little obsessed over that. It can become a lifetime study. I agree that it was an inside job and that it's important, but it was just one event, and one that's now more than 10 years ago -a long time in these accelerated times.

[foreverfan]

SOMEBODY EXPLAIN ME THIS ABOUT 911

The real problem with 911 is that the people in the planes actually died. Can anybody actually explain to me what happened to those passengers? Nobody mentions this. We have actual families that lost family members on that day who were on those planes.

[Snowbird]

SOMEBODY EXPLAIN ME THIS ABOUT 911

The real problem with 911 is that the people in the planes actually died. Can anybody actually explain to me what happened to those passengers? Nobody mentions this. We have actual families that lost family members on that day who were on those planes.

Very, very big and complicated subject, foreverfan. :sad:

[gripreaper]

Anyone catch this who can fill us in? Supposed to be a very important update!

Sunday June 17 , 2012 - 1-3pm Eastern - Drake Important Update
(805) 399-1200
Participant Code 153938#
Drake will provide very important updates

Denise Rednour I would consider this call more important than previous...they will all be getting more important as we get closer and closer.

Denise Rednour DRAKE WILL BE MAKING EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS - you won't want to miss it.

How are the negotiations for surrender going? When are the mass arrests starting? What is the military doing? When is the new commodity based monetary system being implemented, and how will the Euro crisis play a part in this? Where are the collateral account funds and how will these be distributed? When is NESARA going to be implemented?

[foreverfan]

Very, very big and complicated subject, foreverfan. :sad:


And the answer is.....

http://cdn.babble.com/strollerderby/files/2012/06/richard_dawson.jpg



Anyone catch this who can fill us in? Supposed to be a very important update!

Sunday June 17 , 2012 - 1-3pm Eastern - Drake Important Update
(805) 399-1200
Participant Code 153938#
Drake will provide very important updates

Denise Rednour I would consider this call more important than previous...they will all be getting more important as we get closer and closer.

Denise Rednour DRAKE WILL BE MAKING EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS - you won't want to miss it.

Can he answer if my toilet paper futures are worthless yet?

On a serious note.... I think I've listed to every Drake audio posted. His last post he finally said something. We need the link. I won't be able to listen live today, but I'm still interested.

We have a front row seat. The fall of Financial Tyranny will be Televised.

[OnyxKnight]

I'm sure there are people on this forum who know more about the Pleiadians than I, but we are kind of at a disadvantage in that they seem to know a whole lot about us and we know very little about them and their history. We know there are many who claim to have met them and describe them as Nordic looking. But do we even know these Nordics are really from the Pleiades? They could be from somewhere else and just say "the Pleiades". Onyxknight, a contactee on this forum, has suggested just this and has claimed that the real Pleiadians have bright red skin. There seem to be many of these Nordic groups out there. Orion Nordics (who George Kavassilas has warned about), Aldebaran Nordics (who seem to have connections with the Thule Society and the Nazis), and so forth.

I will quote Onyxknight in one of his posts in his "ET Contact" thread (which I have been reading recently, in case you can't tell):


'Nordics', 'Grays' and 'Reptoids' are very general terms that people use. Its like saying Europeans when referring to a person who you had contact to. Europe is a sum of many countries, and like so, all these labels encompass large number of civilizations, not necessarily all "positive", and not all "negative" either. That's why there is so much confusion among abductees and contactees and their experience.

Thank you very much Maunagarjana.

I long thought that what I was talking about in some threads (mainly mine) has interested people mainly for entertainment purposes, or those who paid any attention, seemingly had a short attention span, as they took nothing from what I was saying in actual use.

So I pop up every now and then, tell people that characters like Tolec, Drake, Cobra and Bill are not to be trusted, but they continue as if I wasn't there at all. They later get disappointed, and all I'm left with is "I told you so".

Thank you for making me feel that what I was saying on these boards, was not in vain, as it seems that there are people who read, remember, and apply the read. Especially for discernment purposes. And that's our biggest fault as a global movement of truth .... we never question it, or give it a critical eye. We just ingest anything and everything.

Again, thank you. It may come off strange to you, but you just made my day. For real.

[SilentFeathers]

Anyone catch this who can fill us in? Supposed to be a very important update!

Sunday June 17 , 2012 - 1-3pm Eastern - Drake Important Update
(805) 399-1200
Participant Code 153938#
Drake will provide very important updates

Denise Rednour I would consider this call more important than previous...they will all be getting more important as we get closer and closer.

Denise Rednour DRAKE WILL BE MAKING EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS - you won't want to miss it.

They seem to say stuff like this a few days before all his interviews, I would make another sarcastic comment about toilet paper or something but I am teaching myself to refrain from posting such sarcasm or expressing my twisted humor anymore on this forum due to pissing off so many people......and getting put on so many peoples "ignore list".............sheesh!

[OnyxKnight]

There is one thing they all agree on, however... there will be no ET fly-bys until after the revolution. How very convenient.



Have you seen the Moon activity?

Its not gonna stop any time soon too.

[Sebastion]

Onyxknight, methinks you have a lot of members here who listen closely to what you say and not just for entertainment purposes. I certainly place a lot more credence in what you have to say far more then any of the celebrities talked about on this forum. I look forward to reading anything you have to say because it strikes cords of truth as far as I am concerned.





I'm sure there are people on this forum who know more about the Pleiadians than I, but we are kind of at a disadvantage in that they seem to know a whole lot about us and we know very little about them and their history. We know there are many who claim to have met them and describe them as Nordic looking. But do we even know these Nordics are really from the Pleiades? They could be from somewhere else and just say "the Pleiades". Onyxknight, a contactee on this forum, has suggested just this and has claimed that the real Pleiadians have bright red skin. There seem to be many of these Nordic groups out there. Orion Nordics (who George Kavassilas has warned about), Aldebaran Nordics (who seem to have connections with the Thule Society and the Nazis), and so forth.

I will quote Onyxknight in one of his posts in his "ET Contact" thread (which I have been reading recently, in case you can't tell):


'Nordics', 'Grays' and 'Reptoids' are very general terms that people use. Its like saying Europeans when referring to a person who you had contact to. Europe is a sum of many countries, and like so, all these labels encompass large number of civilizations, not necessarily all "positive", and not all "negative" either. That's why there is so much confusion among abductees and contactees and their experience.

Thank you very much Maunagarjana.

I long thought that what I was talking about in some threads (mainly mine) has interested people mainly for entertainment purposes, or those who paid any attention, seemingly had a short attention span, as they took nothing from what I was saying in actual use.

So I pop up every now and then, tell people that characters like Tolec, Drake, Cobra and Bill are not to be trusted, but they continue as if I wasn't there at all. They later get disappointed, and all I'm left with is "I told you so".

Thank you for making me feel that what I was saying on these boards, was not in vain, as it seems that there are people who read, remember, and apply the read. Especially for discernment purposes. And that's our biggest fault as a global movement of truth .... we never question it, or give it a critical eye. We just ingest anything and everything.

Again, thank you. It may come off strange to you, but you just made my day. For real.

[gripreaper]

They seem to say stuff like this a few days before all his interviews, I would make another sarcastic comment about toilet paper or something but I am teaching myself to refrain from posting such sarcasm or expressing my twisted humor anymore on this forum due to pissing off so many people......and getting put on so many peoples "ignore list".............sheesh!

I dunno. I find it important to sometimes inject twisted humor into a situation, to make it tolerable.

This story has been going on a long time, with Fulford, then Wilcock, then Brockbrader, then Drake, and now Cobra. I thought the Cobra stuff would be the last straw, but apparently not.

I've made it clear, that the whole scenario is belief based on hearsay, and of course, I've been challenged for that (not that there's anything wrong with it) So far no arrests, no ET's revealing themselves "en masse", no global reset of the financial system, etc.

Will these things happen? I'm like anyone else here, I'd like that very much. Just have not seen it.

[foreverfan]

I dunno. I find it important to sometimes inject twisted humor into a situation, to make it tolerable.

This story has been going on a long time, with Fulford, then Wilcock, then Brockbrader, then Drake, and now Cobra. I thought the Cobra stuff would be the last straw, but apparently not.

This board is so serious. We all want this to happen. Until any real proof is given, it's all fantasy/satire. So is a joke is being played on us? More than likely. To an outsider, the Cobra and latest Drake stuff is completely laughable. So... I for one will continue to interject humor since any meaningful discussion on this is completely impossible based on the FACTS.

Come on Drake... we're rooting for you. Make it happen. I'd love to be wrong.

Everybody blew by this but... hell I still need an answer to the below questions or you can throw out all of the 911 conspiracy theories too.

SOMEBODY EXPLAIN ME THIS ABOUT 911

The real problem with 911 is that the people in the planes actually died. Can anybody actually explain to me what happened to those passengers? Nobody mentions this. We have actual families that lost family members on that day who were on those planes.

[NancyV]

Anyone catch this who can fill us in? Supposed to be a very important update!

Sunday June 17 , 2012 - 1-3pm Eastern - Drake Important Update
(805) 399-1200
Participant Code 153938#
Drake will provide very important updates

Denise Rednour I would consider this call more important than previous...they will all be getting more important as we get closer and closer.

Denise Rednour DRAKE WILL BE MAKING EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS - you won't want to miss it.

They seem to say stuff like this a few days before all his interviews, I would make another sarcastic comment about toilet paper or something but I am teaching myself to refrain from posting such sarcasm or expressing my twisted humor anymore on this forum due to pissing off so many people......and getting put on so many peoples "ignore list".............sheesh!
I won't be putting you on ignore since I'm one who LOVES your sarcastic remarks and twisted humor! I'm sure there are more who appreciate your posts and understand that those who are brainwashed don't like anyone to question their beliefs. Well, I say....tough SH**, keep up the good work. The more who put you on ignore the more free you can be to say what you want without offending their delicate sensibilities.
:)

[crosby]

There is one thing they all agree on, however... there will be no ET fly-bys until after the revolution. How very convenient.



Have you seen the Moon activity?

Its not gonna stop any time soon too.


can you elaborate on this a little bit more? i love stuff about the moon.
regards, corson

[OnyxKnight]

There is one thing they all agree on, however... there will be no ET fly-bys until after the revolution. How very convenient.



Have you seen the Moon activity?

Its not gonna stop any time soon too.


can you elaborate on this a little bit more? i love stuff about the moon.
regards, corson

As I haven't had any contact in several months, I wasn't really informed about it, but some people who live in my neighborhood have noticed strange things about the moon, mainly what looks like UFOs.

I'll try to find another article for this, one perhaps already discussed here, but since i haven't been on here for a while, i wouldn't know, so ill post it anyway, when i find it. Mods can correct it if its discussed already.

I don't know if its ships leaving the Moon, or coming there, as that alone might explain a lot one way or the other.

[NancyV]

Open Letter to Our Military
by Drake

There is and has been growing concerns as to the military's not taking action that the people see as both vital and timely. I have offered the tactical complexities, both in house and outside, as a possible reason or cause for this delay.

However, there are a growing number who are beginning to believe that there never was any intent on the military's part, to help the people in their efforts to restore our foundations, etc. This is where things are at presently.

The request is major, both for you and the people. In order to restore the faith in the military helping the people, an official statement of this intent needs to be made.

I understand all the ramifications involved in an action of this nature. Therefore, I have decided to go farther out on the limb I'm presently on, and offer you to directly contact me.

~ Drake
This part of Drake's letter that I have cut out is rather interesting to me. I remember when he said that 90% of the military was ready to act. Did he actually accept this without any direct contact with them? He is now offering for them to directly contact him. Does this mean he believed someone else about the military being ready to act?

It also looks to me like he's setting the military up as the fall guy for when no mass arrests happen. He's beginning to question the military as to why they've not yet acted. Well hell, he never had personal contact with them and never really KNEW that they WERE ready to act. Apparently he either invented it or took someone else's word just as people are taking his word.

And so it goes....one dupe believes the lies or disinfo or misinfo of another dupe and pretty soon all who believed end up being chumps. So who to blame?? Certainly NOT Drake! So he's laying the groundwork to make the military the bad guys. That will definitely PISS ME OFF!

[SilentFeathers]

I won't be putting you on ignore since I'm one who LOVES your sarcastic remarks and twisted humor! I'm sure there are more who appreciate your posts and understand that those who are brainwashed don't like anyone to question their beliefs. Well, I say....tough SH**, keep up the good work. The more who put you on ignore the more free you can be to say what you want without offending their delicate sensibilities.
:)

It's certainly not my intention to be rude or mean, I just think it's time EVERYONE demands at least some form of solid evidence from now on. I know I'm tired of all the lies and deception, especially just in the last decade.....hearsay and the phrase "trust me" or "take my word for it" just doesn't seem to work for me much any more.....

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

As for Alex Jones staying away from 9/11, that simply isn't true. Do a YouTube search for Alex Jones 9/11 and you'll see.
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Ok, let me clarify. OF COURSE Alex Jones has mentioned 9-11, but does he point the finger at a group of terrorists? Does he talk about the nano-thermite and the explosions? Does he talk about the stellar technology used? Does he implicate the neocons such as Bush and Chaney? Does he tie it to the Elite at the top? Does he implicate the US government?

Does he keep on it and keep on it until a new investigation is opened and the scum who did it brought to justice?

I rest my case.

Wow are you serious gripreaper?? I am not the biggest alex jones fan, but not only does he implicate the people you are saying that he doesn't implicate, but he covers ALL of the topics you claim he doesn't. It's not about defending him as a person but the truth is the truth. Maybe you should watch his show sometime. You might be surprised.

-peace and love,
AIJ

[promezeus]

If Drake and Cobra were really on the same page, as Cobra claims, then why is Drake putting out this superfluous call to the military when the jig is supposedly going to be up by june 21 when the ultimatum to the cabal closes and the military is then called upon to act immediatley if cabal doesn't surrender?

[foreverfan]

Useful Link of the Latest Past Drake Shows (http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624)
http://americannationalmilitia.com/

FB Open House 14 Jun
Drake and Company 06132012 13 Jun
Round Table Discussion 11 Jun
Drake and Company 06102012 10 Jun

[gripreaper]

Useful Link of the Latest Past Drake Shows (http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624)
http://americannationalmilitia.com/

FB Open House 14 Jun
Drake and Company 06132012 13 Jun
Round Table Discussion 11 Jun
Drake and Company 06102012 10 Jun

But where is today's important update?

With the fate of the entire planet at stake, the removal of the psychopathic elite who have been destroying this planet, and the future of commerce and our ability to buy, sell, and live at stake, I hope someone got today's very important update and will post it soon.

[foreverfan]

Useful Link of the Latest Past Drake Shows (http://www.spreaker.com/user/4664624)
http://americannationalmilitia.com/

FB Open House 14 Jun
Drake and Company 06132012 13 Jun
Round Table Discussion 11 Jun
Drake and Company 06102012 10 Jun

But where is today's important update?

With the fate of the entire planet at stake, the removal of the psychopathic elite who have been destroying this planet, and the future of commerce and our ability to buy, sell, and live at stake, I hope someone got today very important update and will post it soon.

Errr... I couldn't find it.

[SilentFeathers]

But where is today's important update?



It's probably been postpone until Monday because tomorrow is Fathers Day....

[gripreaper]

But where is today's important update?



It's probably been postpone until Monday because tomorrow is Fathers Day....

If you have chosen to be the primary liaison between all of the benevolent ET's in the cosmos, as well as in touch with the top military brass, and all of the heads of state for the 144 aligned nations against the cabal, and all of us poor slaves out here struggling to make ends meet, should you not have some culpability in bringing today's update to us as soon as possible?

[Kimberley]

******

Here is the link to the new home of Drake radio... I will be producing and moderating this show at its new location....chat is at this same link... I have more information to add, however need to attend to my life for a bit and will be back soon with more details!!

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-radio-network/2012/06/17/drake-vital-updates--june-16-2012

edit

Show will air Sunday June 17 for 3 hours starting at 1pm EST, Noon Central, 11 am Pacific, etc...

To post in the chat room you need to set up a Blog Talk Radio profile...profile e-mail info is not made public... to set up a profile you only need to give yourself a name and hook it to an e-mail address that is not shared with the public.

You can listen without a profile however can not write in the chat. You can read the chat but not post without a BTR profile.

Any other questions plz feel free to ask me!

[OnyxKnight]

There is one thing they all agree on, however... there will be no ET fly-bys until after the revolution. How very convenient.



Have you seen the Moon activity?

Its not gonna stop any time soon too.


can you elaborate on this a little bit more? i love stuff about the moon.
regards, corson

I'm very sorry Corson, it seems the original article I saw has been removed. But I found this one - not exactly the same thing - but it is about activity on the Moon:

http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomers-report-five-ufos-on-moon-suggest-intelligent-alien-life

[gripreaper]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!

Apparently Drake, according to sources, has been in a bar fight with Chris Brown over Rhianna. Sources say there were several people injured due to flying glass who had to go to the hospital for stitches!

I'll post more when I am able to verify this claim...

[edit]

Sorry, apparently I should have checked sources closer before I posted this, for it appears I had the wrong Drake. This is the Drake (Drake Bailey) I thought was in that bar brawl.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC7w-xsMW0M

[LarryC]

I dunno. I find it important to sometimes inject twisted humor into a situation, to make it tolerable.

This story has been going on a long time, with Fulford, then Wilcock, then Brockbrader, then Drake, and now Cobra. I thought the Cobra stuff would be the last straw, but apparently not.

This board is so serious. We all want this to happen. Until any real proof is given, it's all fantasy/satire. So is a joke is being played on us? More than likely. To an outsider, the Cobra and latest Drake stuff is completely laughable. So... I for one will continue to interject humor since any meaningful discussion on this is completely impossible based on the FACTS.

Come on Drake... we're rooting for you. Make it happen. I'd love to be wrong.

Everybody blew by this but... hell I still need an answer to the below questions or you can throw out all of the 911 conspiracy theories too.

SOMEBODY EXPLAIN ME THIS ABOUT 911

The real problem with 911 is that the people in the planes actually died. Can anybody actually explain to me what happened to those passengers? Nobody mentions this. We have actual families that lost family members on that day who were on those planes.

I don't want to turn this into a 911 thread, but few people would deny that passengers died. Many believe that the Pentagon was hit by a missile rather than a plane, but most acknowledge that two planes hit the WTC buildings. The question of who was behind the attacks is another story. Most of the so-called conspiracy theories don't offer a definite theory of exactly what happened -they just point out the inconsistencies with the official version. That makes them more plausible to me. It's also why I don't spend a lot of time on this issue. Way too complicated, and in the overall scheme of things, just one more lie out of millions.

[Avocadess]

KIMBERLEY -- THAT IS SO AWESOME THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE PRODUCING AND MODERATING DRAKE'S NEW RADIO SHOW....!!! I had hoped and hoped and hoped that would happen. YOU are just PERFECT for it...!!! Thanks for doing it...~~~!!!! Love!!!

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Re: Drake's recent Open Letter to the Military

I can understand the consternation some people may have in re Drake and his recent Open Letter. One person wrote me feeling very saddened by it and asking what my thoughts were. Here is what I wrote to him:

This is my take: In the beginning, Drake (and Wilcock) were the first to introduce me to The Plan in a way I would even listen. I had perhaps heard portions of it before from ET sources, but never felt I could give much credence to supposed ET sources, if you know what I mean.

Now in the past couple or few months I see what could be a collusion from many quarters -- (Drake, Wilcock, Fulford, Brockbrader, Cobra, SaLuSa and maybe some others I am forgetting at the moment) -- but that does not seem possible to be because of the basic disagreements between those parties (re Obama and re the UN for example) or could be truly non-organized synchronicities -- which is what I believe they ARE. I believe that something IS happening -- but that neither Drake nor Wilcock nor Fulford nor Brockbrader nor Cobra nor SaLuSa have all the pieces of the puzzle. Yet I see many odds and ends going on in this world, as well as in the consciousness in myself and those around me, that confirm their message. We are indeed in for a big transition, and it is up to us to use this time of great transition to remold our society and its workings to something sustainable, honest and FREE...!

It's a small world but it is also a big, big, big world and we are talking about things that apply to that big world. Like religions of the world, I seek what they have in COMMON while noting the discrepancies. Overall I don't like the institution of religion but I do like and believe in what I see most of them have in common; and similarly, though I see many discrepancies between these sources I LOVE what they have in common, and I remain VERY hopeful indeed.

Wishing you the best day EVER...!!


Avocadess

[gripreaper]

I don't want to turn this into a 911 thread, but few people would deny that passengers died. Many believe that the Pentagon was hit by a missile rather than a plane, but most acknowledge that two planes hit the WTC buildings. The question of who was behind the attacks is another story. Most of the so-called conspiracy theories don't offer a definite theory of exactly what happened -they just point out the inconsistencies with the official version. That makes them more plausible to me. It's also why I don't spend a lot of time on this issue. Way too complicated, and in the overall scheme of things, just one more lie out of millions.

Larry, there are many good threads here at Avalon where 9-11 is discussed. Suffice it to note, that the intended effect of 9-11 to turn the globe into one fascist police state, has backfired and caused an awakening, due to the discrepancies between the official story sold us and the facts surrounding the event.

This is also a theme which runs through this thread, the awakening to what has been done by a nefarious elite group of psychopaths at the top of the power pyramid, and how to deal with that.

Although there is disagreement on how to go about transforming to a new paradigm of consciousness and how to unseat the psychopaths from power, globally, many recognize them as the problem and recognize we need to do something and recognize that we each need to take a part and do what we can.

Is the plan proposed by Drake reliable and credible? At this point, we do not know, since all we have are ideas and we are told that certain alliances exist.

We all want the same thing.

[gripreaper]

Show will air Sunday June 17 for 3 hours starting at 1pm EST, Noon Central, 11 am Pacific, etc...

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Any other questions plz feel free to ask me!

Show is starting right now at 10 am Pacific Time, not 11 am.

Don't miss it! Kimberly is on!!!

[gripreaper]

FIRST HOUR

He’s talking about the timelines coming to critical mass, and there is a time limit. He references Edgar Cayce (although he did not mention that David Wilcock is the reincarnation of such) and others. Some of the things he is mentioning seem to have come from Courtney Brown’s most recent remote view from farsight and Clif High’s most recent wujo. Drake really is emphasizing the ET angle for the first time, which he has previously avoided.

The urgent message is: We either take care of business ASAP, or the ET’s are going to. He hopes the military is listening, after he sent the urgent letter to them yesterday.

Lady Dragon is endorsing Cobra, and the elite are very scared because of our vote and they want to surrender with two non negotiable conditions. 1. Go on the media and tell us that they are the bad guys and that they are surrendering and 2. Give up their power. Lady Dragon is saying that Cobra is a reincarnated Pleiadian and knows what’s going on. Cobra, according to Lady Dragon, the ET’s are waiting for the military to make their move but are running out of time.

Drake comes back on and claims the prosperity packages have been opened. Keenan has been working on opening the accounts, to be used in humanitarian ways. The collateral funds are to be used to fix bridges and stuff. There are prosperity packages that have been sent out to various people who are participants in some kind of deal.

Drake says we are under time limits and we need to act now. If the ET’s tell us to move a mound of dirt from here to over there, we need to do so. Drake talks about a microbe which eats all forms of toxic and radioactive fallout.

No more chemical compounds are going to be allowed to be used anymore, and Monsanto’s GMO stuff is going to be done away with. The ET’s know the timelines and the time limits, and that is why they are acting now. Hopefully Monday morning Drake will hear back from the military and we can get things done before it is too late.

Drake says there are many out here that are frustrated and ready to grab their guns and get busy, and Drake does not blame them, but he cautions us to be mindful and wait. The European Union cannot catch up with their debt and things are happening. Almost all of that debt belongs to the corporations, who get to buy us lunch, but they get KP duty and they get to clean the latrine at the FEMA camps.

Killing punches a big hole in your karma which needs to be fixed, and Drake wants a peaceful surrender, because they are going down anyway. The BIS has a lien placed against it, along with a cease and desist order, which means they cannot transact anything for 90 days, which is long enough for the whole thing to go belly up.

These people are pond scum, so let’s not lower ourselves to that level. They are like animals and should be treated as same. Let’s see what the military does on Monday. This would sure make Drake’s day.

[SilentFeathers]

He’s talking about the timelines coming to critical mass, and there is a time limit. He references Edgar Cayce (although he did not mention that David Wilcock is the reincarnation of such) and others. Some of the things he is mentioning seem to have come from Courtney Brown’s most recent remote view from farsight and Clif High’s most recent wujo. Drake really is emphasizing the ET angle for the first time, which he has previously avoided.

The urgent message is: We either take care of business ASAP, or the ET’s are going to. He hopes the military is listening, after he sent the urgent letter to them yesterday.

Lady Dragon is endorsing Cobra, and the elite are very scared because of our vote and they want to surrender with two non negotiable conditions. 1. Go on the media and tell us that they are the bad guys and that they are surrendering and 2. Give up their power. Lady Dragon is saying that Cobra is a reincarnated Pleiadian and knows what’s going on. Cobra, according to Lady Dragon, the ET’s are waiting for the military to make their move but are running out of time.

Drake comes back on and claims the prosperity packages have been opened. Keenan has been working on opening the accounts, to be used in humanitarian ways. The collateral funds are to be used to fix bridges and stuff. There are prosperity packages that have been sent out to various people who are participants in some kind of deal.

Drake says we are under time limits and we need to act now. If the ET’s tell us to move a mound of dirt from here to over there, we need to do so. Drake talks about a microbe which eats all forms of toxic and radioactive fallout.

No more chemical compounds are going to be allowed to be used anymore, and Monsanto’s GMO stuff is going to be done away with. The ET’s know the timelines and the time limits, and that is why they are acting now. Hopefully Monday morning Drake will hear back from the military and we can get things done before it is too late.

Drake says there are many out here that are frustrated and ready to grab their guns and get busy, and Drake does not blame them, but he cautions us to be mindful and wait. The European Union cannot catch up with their debt and things are happening. Almost all of that debt belongs to the corporations, who get to buy us lunch, but they get KP duty and they get to clean the latrine at the FEMA camps.

Killing punches a big hole in your karma which needs to be fixed, and Drake wants a peaceful surrender, because they are going down anyway. The BIS has a lien placed against it, along with a cease and desist order, which means they cannot transact anything for 90 days, which is long enough for the whole thing to go belly up.

These people are pond scum, so let’s not lower ourselves to that level. They are like animals and should be treated as same. Let’s see what the military does on Monday. This would sure make Drake’s day.

I'm listening to it too, sounds more and more like the channeling "and or controversial" forum section to me with this alien intervention etc......I would say more but I don't want to get kicked off this forum...........WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This whole thing has kicked in to over-drive and has entered the "twilight zone"

[Billy]

******

Here is the link to the new home of Drake radio... I will be producing and moderating this show at its new location....chat is at this same link... I have more information to add, however need to attend to my life for a bit and will be back soon with more details!!

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-radio-network/2012/06/17/drake-vital-updates--june-16-2012

edit

Show will air Sunday June 17 for 3 hours starting at 1pm EST, Noon Central, 11 am Pacific, etc...

To post in the chat room you need to set up a Blog Talk Radio profile...profile e-mail info is not made public... to set up a profile you only need to give yourself a name and hook it to an e-mail address that is not shared with the public.

You can listen without a profile however can not write in the chat. You can read the chat but not post without a BTR profile.

Any other questions plz feel free to ask me!

Kimberley at the controls, how cool is that, Hey Kimberley the song i sent you, " Be the change" would be perfect for Drakes show. :clap2:

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It says that the chatroom is full, no access

[gripreaper]

I'm listening to it too, sounds more and more like the channeling "and or controversial" forum section to me with this alien intervention etc......I would say more but I don't want to get kicked off this forum...........WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This whole thing has kicked in to over-drive and has entered the "twilight zone"

I'm just transcribing and trying to keep my own bias out of it. I'll comment once it's over. So far, the whole Lady Dragon angle sure did not help!

[sdv]

I'm listening to it too, sounds more and more like the channeling "and or controversial" forum section to me with this alien intervention etc......I would say more but I don't want to get kicked off this forum...........WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This whole thing has kicked in to over-drive and has entered the "twilight zone"

Drake has failed every test of verification, so I agree that this should be put in the 'Channeling' section. We all are free to listen to, believe in and follow what we believe, even if it is a cult ...

[SilentFeathers]

I'm listening to it too, sounds more and more like the channeling "and or controversial" forum section to me with this alien intervention etc......I would say more but I don't want to get kicked off this forum...........WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This whole thing has kicked in to over-drive and has entered the "twilight zone"

I'm just transcribing and trying to keep my own bias out of it. I'll comment once it's over. So far, the whole Lady Dragon angle sure did not help!

I'm trying to keep my personal bias in check too, it's not easy......

[applecrusher1992]

Open Letter by Drake to Pentagon:

There have been several tasks given to different people through military command. To date all have been either completed as requested or are still developing.

This is an open letter to those who requested these specific missions. At the onset of these missions, extraordinary efforts were expended in just their start up. Each of these required a similar expending of time and effort to complete, all on a voluntary basis.

There were very few objections as to following mission parameters and instructions. Real patriots seldom complain of any hardship involved in any true patriotic effort either.

We The People have done as requested, and yet there is a great and growing concern. As many as possible have been contacted, groups, militias, and freedom loving individuals. These number in the millions here in the states, with many more millions world wide, watching closely.

Our efforts are looked at as the cornerstone to be built upon for all nations. This was only a dream of a hope for those of us most directly involved in all this. It seems that everyone is looking to us to lead the way, just as happened in part because of our war for independence.

There is and has been growing concerns as to the military’s not taking action that the people see as both vital and timely. I have offered the tactical complexities, both in house and outside, as a possible reason or cause for this delay.

However, there are a growing number who are beginning to believe that there never was any intent on the military’s part, to help the people in their efforts to restore our foundations, etc. This is where things are at presently.

The request is major, both for you and the people. In order to restore the faith in the military helping the people, an official statement of this intent needs to be made.

I understand all the ramifications involved in an action of this nature. Therefore, I have decided to go farther out on the limb I’m presently on, and offer you to directly contact me.
I was asked to offer several things in my broadcasts on internet radio as a help in the overall plan.

I have accepted the risks involved in the same light as our founders.
I pledge my honor, life, and fortune in this effort.
I can do no less for my country and my countrymen

We The People now respectfully request the same from our military. Note that this will be sent out to everyone I have been asked to contact. Thus, the quicker the reply, the better.

The country looks forward to your reply,.
~ Drake

Video he wants us all to see:

6G2z9rnS3Bo

Time will soon tell if he is right or wrong.

[gripreaper]

SECOND HOUR

The ultimatum as to the time, go listen to the video on Drake’s website.

The 5 minute video lays it out just like it is.

The ET’s had to get special permission, and they don’t really want to take our garbage out, but there has been an ultimatum delivered. Go watch the movie “The Matrix” because that is what we are sitting in right now. Drake has been practicing to fly like Neo. When Drake was a small child, he decided to learn. He is self taught. Drake was able to converse like an adult, with adults when he was a kid.

Drake also says he was a bit of a rebel and did not take well to authority. He wanted to know how everything works, so he studied Zen, Hinduism, chakras, spirituality, and many self help books. One was “The Power of Positive Thinking” Attitude. What can you imagine and how far can you push your sphere of influence? If you put out love, babies, little critters and animals, you put out unconditional love. Drake references the small candle in a dark room, how the light is magnified by the goodness in you.

If the military needs assistance, all they have to do is call Drake and the military will have all the help they need. If the military doesn’t act, the ET’s will. Drake says he needs to give them an allowance until sometime Monday. All hands need to be on deck in order to beat the timeline, and the 2012 disaster scenario. We have a choice to either survive or die. The whole northern hemisphere is dying due to Fukushima, and we need to clean it up.

[Fred Steeves]

Drake says we are under time limits and we need to act now. If the ET’s tell us to move a mound of dirt from here to over there, we need to do so.

Sounds good, kind of like Marine boot camp. I hereby stand proudly at parade rest, eagerly awaiting orders from the new big boss man, with my finest shovel freshly polished, and at the ready.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Cheers,
Fred

[Sebastion]

Fred: Please save a space for me. I sent my shovel out to be chromed so it would look purty whilst standing at parade rest!








Drake says we are under time limits and we need to act now. If the ET’s tell us to move a mound of dirt from here to over there, we need to do so.

Sounds good, kind of like Marine boot camp. I hereby stand proudly at parade rest, eagerly awaiting orders from the new big boss man, with my finest shovel freshly polished, and at the ready.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Cheers,
Fred

[gripreaper]

HOUR THREE

There are good ET’s and bad ET’s the good ones work with the good guys, and the bad one’s work with the bad guys and have interbreeded with us and walk among us. They helped build the underground facilities. Soon there will be landings of the good ET’s and we will all see them. Some of the bad ET’s will be able to be rehabilitated, but those that cannot, will be returned to source.

One caller wants to jump the gun and get the militia’s to take action without the military, but Drake says that is one of the reasons for the open letter, to give them the opportunity to act, and if they won’t, then they are not needed and we will have to take action. Drake recommends we go to WRM, “Well Regulated Militia” and get involved. Drake is giving them till Monday and Drake will be on the radio by Wednesday to tell them the time is gone. Drake will see what he can do to initiate things from his end.

It is our Constitutional and lawful duty to take back our government. Maybe six people out of the whole House of Representatives in there legally. Drake does not want a violent overthrow, but lawful replacements of the illegal representatives who are there, as well as the treasonous ones.

Sending letters to the government. Flood them with letters. One woman worries about being put on a list. Drake says we are all on a list and have been surveyed since 1960. The surveillance is so sophisticated now they know everything about us. All communications, all e-mails, everything is stored somewhere in your file. It’s all listed. We do not have privacy anymore.

Drake cannot share everything he knows, due to the sensitive nature, but the plan has been around for quite some time. The public needs to take action. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[9eagle9]

If the ET’s tell us to move a mound of dirt from here to over there, we need to do so.

I'll pass thanks. Not a shovel sort of gal.

[Fred Steeves]

Curiouser and curiouser...Is Drake going to be needing some sort of "Council Of 18" as well soon? Perhaps they'll be the ones interfacing between the militias and our ET saviors? And they in turn will tell us where to move those pesky piles of dirt to when the time is right?

If this thickening of the plot is not scripted to pop up next, it should be...

Are they hiring any hungry writers?

[Kimberley]

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The archive of today's show is available at :

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-radio-network/2012/06/17/drake-vital-updates--june-16-2012

Defiantly worth a listen if you are following this story.

Next show is on Wednesday June 20 at 7pm EST at this link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-radio-network

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Also you will find a video that Drake asked all to watch on his Blog web site:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/spirituality/

And here is the video's direct link on youtube only 4:41 minutes posted June 9, 2012

The women is a friend of Drakes...

Terms Of Surrender For The Cabal ~ A Declaration Of On And Off World Forces

6G2z9rnS3Bo


Published on Jun 9, 2012 by juliamay11

This is a compilation of individual and collective declarations at the table of the Council of the Warriors of the Rainbow, with the off world forces of Creation, Creator, their children, the Supreme Being of Heart and Mind and their children. Let it be known that extractions of the cabal have already begun to aid those on earth on mission to restore the earth and free humanity. These extractions by off world forces, will continue until their extinction or their surrender before June 21st. (Not a channeling).

We are the Warriors of the Rainbow



Much love to us all, always in all ways :grouphug:

[Maunagarjana]

I just want to say thanks, Gripreaper, for transcribing those summaries of the show. I hope you keep it up. I've spent too many damn hours listening to Drake ramble on. Though I do find him entertaining and perceptive, I'd rather read a summary.

[sdv]

Sending letters to the government. Flood them with letters. One woman worries about being put on a list. Drake says we are all on a list and have been surveyed since 1960. The surveillance is so sophisticated now they know everything about us. All communications, all e-mails, everything is stored somewhere in your file. It’s all listed. We do not have privacy anymore.

To me, Drake is just some guy looking for attention and finding a platform in the alternative community for such attention, but he draws us in when he resonates with our sense of common sense. My family laugh that I have been identified and listed by the CIA (or whatever) and they are probably right (after all, I have written to Arab newspapers in support of Iranians against sanctions!) but I refuse to be afraid and trapped by their paranoia!

I have been much inspired by a young man on another thread who listed the ten reasons why Obama has disappointed him as a president. I am not an American, but I too have been disappointed by Obama and maybe I have the right to write to him and tell him so. Any non-Americans who also feel that Obama has been a major damp squid and who is not afraid to speak up because they (CIA, whatever) are fearful and paranoid enough enough to see us as a threat no matter what we do or do not do? (The USA embassy is a few kilometers away from where I live and it is a huge ugly bunker that screams fear!) I have always restrained from doing so because he is not my president, so how do Americans feel about this?

[Kimberley]

I just want to say thanks, Gripreaper, for transcribing those summaries of the show. I hope you keep it up. I've spent too many damn hours listening to Drake ramble on. Though I do find him entertaining and perceptive, I'd rather read a summary.

Yes thank you Gripreaper and all that help out here... no matter what your perspective is :-)

Much love!

[promezeus]

well I listened to as much of the drake show as I could stomach. It reminded me of the occupy demonstrations.. A lot of hot air that went nowhere. If Drake is actually on the level, then I say bring in the ETs NOW. A couple of months ago, it was going to be civilian law enforcement doing the mass arrests with the military in the background. NOw it sounds like the military doing the arrests, or at least leading the charge, if they can get off their ass and do it. haha

So let the ETs come in! Why the hell not?
They are supposed to be our galactic family, right? I would just as soon have ETs running the show as the military. I certainly have no reason to trust the u.s. military. And if the ETs make a show of force or show some invulnerability to the elites, then hey.. that would make a lot of people feel empowered to join in, don't you think?? Let's get the show on the road.

[SilentFeathers]

I think I'll just go and waste another 7 bucks and see Prometheus again tonight and get the same results......

[9eagle9]

Drake will need some proponents who are not moving piles of dirt back and forth to go out and initiate some mass arrests?

This writer isn't hungry enough yet.

Although all these code names are appealing, I'm still holding out for the X-ray ring and secret handshake.


Curiouser and curiouser...Is Drake going to be needing some sort of "Council Of 18" as well soon? Perhaps they'll be the ones interfacing between the militias and our ET saviors? And they in turn will tell us where to move those pesky piles of dirt to when the time is right?

If this thickening of the plot is not scripted to pop up next, it should be...

Are they hiring any hungry writers?

[the_vast_mystery]

HOUR THREE

There are good ET’s and bad ET’s the good ones work with the good guys, and the bad one’s work with the bad guys and have interbreeded with us and walk among us. They helped build the underground facilities. Soon there will be landings of the good ET’s and we will all see them. Some of the bad ET’s will be able to be rehabilitated, but those that cannot, will be returned to source.

One caller wants to jump the gun and get the militia’s to take action without the military, but Drake says that is one of the reasons for the open letter, to give them the opportunity to act, and if they won’t, then they are not needed and we will have to take action. Drake recommends we go to WRM, “Well Regulated Militia” and get involved. Drake is giving them till Monday and Drake will be on the radio by Wednesday to tell them the time is gone. Drake will see what he can do to initiate things from his end.

It is our Constitutional and lawful duty to take back our government. Maybe six people out of the whole House of Representatives in there legally. Drake does not want a violent overthrow, but lawful replacements of the illegal representatives who are there, as well as the treasonous ones.

Sending letters to the government. Flood them with letters. One woman worries about being put on a list. Drake says we are all on a list and have been surveyed since 1960. The surveillance is so sophisticated now they know everything about us. All communications, all e-mails, everything is stored somewhere in your file. It’s all listed. We do not have privacy anymore.

Drake cannot share everything he knows, due to the sensitive nature, but the plan has been around for quite some time. The public needs to take action. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Just to chime in, not only the government but most mid sized and larger corporations do as well. You'd be shocked to know just how much Big Data has on us all. I develop software for an Ad Agency and have been listening in on their strategy sessions concerning how they develop ads. We're really getting it down to a science as far as how well ads are "targeted" to persuade you to make a purchase. You might think things like HIPPA and other data protection laws prevent certain information about you from being disclosed. Well, you thought wrong. By making use of what data they do have we can literally figure out when a Doctor is prescribing a specific drug or for a specific disease so we can sell him a competing drug (it's an Ad Agency that specializes in Pharma.)

Only the Rich (who can afford to pay to have their data scrubbed from any of those record systems) have privacy currently.

[Zencat]

Curiouser and curiouser...Is Drake going to be needing some sort of "Council Of 18" as well soon? Perhaps they'll be the ones interfacing between the militias and our ET saviors? And they in turn will tell us where to move those pesky piles of dirt to when the time is right?

If this thickening of the plot is not scripted to pop up next, it should be...

Are they hiring any hungry writers?

Fred, I agree with you .... curiouser and curiouser, not to mention a bit bizarre!

When Drake first came on the scene (with Wilcock and then with Deatra), he seemed to talk like a good old Southern boy appealing to the 'redneck patriot' movement. Now, he talks about ETs, chakras and spirituality. Either he's playing a good game or he's cloned himself!

Will the real Drake please stand up?

(Gripreaper, thank you for the summary!)

[Creative Lorraine]

My thoughts and Info
I watched Koch Brothers Exposed here is the addy
http://www.sockshare.ws/file/btmJ8G7oXAAQQvgr#
In the middle of page look for 'Continue as a Free User' Click it
Beware a lot of game pop ups Even if ur pop up blocker is on close
them out
Then u will see Play Now Download Now disregard to the right 'Click To Play'
might be a min the movie will load
1 hour movie Once you watch then u can add more to the puzzle
How in the Hell are We the people going to fight these brothers?
From what I recall a statement was made The Koch Brothers want to take down the
Cabal so they can run America . I have never seen in Drake's thread's mentioning
of the Koch Brothers I really think they are tied in all the delays of things by paying
off people .. If anyone can could you mention to Drake about the Koch Brothers
and see what his thoughts are' Please ' Thank you
Maybe Kimberley can contact Drake?

Lorraine

[gripreaper]

When Drake first came on the scene (with Wilcock and then with Deatra), he seemed to talk like a good old Southern boy appealing to the 'redneck patriot' movement. Now, he talks about ETs, chakras and spirituality. Either he's playing a good game or he's cloned himself!

Will the real Drake please stand up?

Apparently you haven't seen this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC7w-xsMW0M

[SilentFeathers]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

[Zencat]

When Drake first came on the scene (with Wilcock and then with Deatra), he seemed to talk like a good old Southern boy appealing to the 'redneck patriot' movement. Now, he talks about ETs, chakras and spirituality. Either he's playing a good game or he's cloned himself!

Will the real Drake please stand up?

Apparently you haven't seen this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC7w-xsMW0M

Thank you, Gripreaper. No, I hadn't seen this. It's the same voice! Fascinating to put a face to the voice .... you can now add 'weather expert' to his resume! :)

I still don't believe a word of what he says ....

[LarryC]

I listened to the first hour and a half. I wasn't all that crazy about being threatened with total destruction. In fact, that's the first of this I've heard coming from this loosely knit coalition (Drake, Wilcock, Bill Wood, Cobra, etc.). This might have been more an expression of Drake's frustration with the delays than anything else. Usually the "bad" timeline involves the cabal imposing a global dictatorship. The Armegeddon type scenario is usually what we hear from Christian fundamentalists or Hollywood -even Drake kept referencing the 2012 movie. When Kimberley asked him about the power of intention in relation to this, he seemed to ramble a bit.

He frequently mentioned the Terms of Surrender video that's posted above. I have to say that I really don't think that the woman doing this video comes across well at all. This may be superficial and judgmental, but when you're trying to spread information quickly it really does matter how it's communicated. She comes across as someone almost in a trance, or even traumatized in some way and delivers the material in an eerie, flat tone of voice. For this reason, I'd be reluctant to share this with people who aren't already familiar with this kind of information.

That said, I'm still hopeful that there is some substance to all this. We don't have to approach every new piece of information with an all or nothing attitude. Everyone, whether a supposed insider, channeler or ordinary person has their own point of view and is fallible. There are definitely inconsistencies from one interpretation to the next, and we've seen several deadlines come and go with no apparent progress. It's easy to take a position of default skepticism and dismiss it all as disinfo or delusions. But it has created a certain hopeful meme regarding mass arrests and liberation. I think Drake has the right idea when he says we all have to do our part, though I'm not sure that threatening us with total annihilation as the alternative does much good.

[Chester]

It's a clown show - I knew I shoulda relied on Bill from the day of his first peep. justonegullibleman

[SilentFeathers]

It's a clown show - I knew I shoulda relied on Bill from the day of his first peep. justonegullibleman

The only reason I am still following this Drake nonsense is to get a little more insight to the NWO's next move and how they're manipulating us......there's hidden messages in some of the strangest of places......and this dog and pony show is one of those strange places :)

I'm starting to wonder if George Soro's and a few other sinister creeps are somehow involved in this Drake mess too....:)

Some major mind games and manipulation written all over this in my opinion.....

[NancyV]

If you read what she says in the video about the Terms of Surrender for the Cabal, you get a better overall picture of how bizarre, idiotic, outrageously imaginative and megalomaniacal their statements are.

At least we only have to wait until June 21 to see either the entire Cabal surrender or be killed. That should be visible to all. Any more excuses or delays will put more nails in their coffin and their lies should become more and more obvious even to the die-hard supporters of Drake, Wilcock, Fulford, the Dragon Lady, the White Dragon Society, Cobra, et al... and the insanely ludicrous plan.

I wonder what excuses they will give when nothing happens on June 21? Drake has already cast blame on the military for delays, will he next cast blame on the ET's? Who will be left to blame after that?

It's a fascinating drama watching people be sucked into believing totally insane and ridiculous statements with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Hopefully those who are "believers" will learn some discernment when future wackos come along with more ridiculous lies.

From the video:
Terms of Surrender for the Cabal ~ A Declaration of On and Off World Forces


The date is June 9th 2012 and the votes for war and peace have ended. The results will be announced tomorrow. The Cabal hoped to negotiate the terms of surrender and played their fear card earlier this week; that they would fight to the death and take out 2/3 of the population if we voted for war.

What they hoped to gain from these negotiations can probably be guessed, but it is everyone’s hope that there will be a peaceful transition. Regardless of what the vote reveals tomorrow, the following is a declaration from On and Off World Forces:

From the supreme heart and mind who created Creation, who created Creator and us, it has been declared that extractions of the Cabal have begun. Those extracted will be destroyed. Those that surrender will be spared and given a choice. Each day they wait means more will be taken. And if there is no surrender by June 21st …they will all perish.

With acceptance of the terms of surrender comes an offer to rejoin the Light, requiring rehabilitation and probation, both under supervision. Any damage done to humanity or Gaia will be restored. Failure to accept the terms of surrender will be interpreted as an act of aggression and an act of war. Since it has been decreed that there will be no more wars this would constitute a violation of this decree.

If the remaining Cabal choose not to be reformed they will be taken to the central sun where they will be extinguished as sparks of Creation. If this happens, their very existence will be erased from time. Everything will be as if they never existed, for in fact, this will be true. The bloodlines will be removed from Earth in a couple of ways. They may either choose to be rehabilitated on a more suitable planet or they will be destroyed. Some may begin again as brand new sparks of Creation with no memory of their former identity. But again, those who refuse surrender will be extinguished.

This is the free will we give to them as our gift. I would like to say unconditional surrender, but unfortunately humanity still feels the need for governments to guide them, therefore for the remainder of this year we will be responsible for using the tools given to us to return Gaia’s health as quickly as possible.

All residual and corrupt humans left after culling the Cabal will be found and extracted. Choose your representatives carefully. All that they do will reflect on you, the people, and all dealings will be transparent and accountable. It will be up to us after the fall of the Cabal to use our integrity in cleansing Gaia or suffer extinction via the movement of land and water as Gaia will need to cleanse herself if we don’t. The more we do to connect with her, soothe her, the less will be her labor to restore herself to her former glory.

Be thankful for all we’ve been given, the divine help that aided us and the redemption and freedom of all that were stolen and enslaved on this prison planet. Our reward is Gaia’s freedom, and the reality of our eternal lives is to dance with her in Creation once again.

Thank you

[peace]

while i admire the effort and passion being put into getting this 'information' out there, I feel you will be disappointed when nothing happens.

it's a bit late to say, 'put your energies elsewhere,' but ... well, you know.

wilcock/drake = all talk. i really am sorry to see such a buildup to what will be such a let down.

ugh. i just really feel bad for you getting so excited for this.

it's serpo, atticus, most all of wilcock's "science", bruisch and lazar all over again. this time with different characters and plot lines. in the end we will be dumber because of the contribution wilcock and drake have "made" to this community.

stop buying this b.s. it's not a slam. it's pure nonsense.

[Fred Steeves]

It's a clown show - I knew I shoulda relied on Bill from the day of his first peep. justonegullibleman

Justoneman, go look into the nearest mirror for who most to rely on brother. You want information from Source? There "IT" is, looking back at YOU, waiting for your asking/commanding..http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/yes4.gif

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[9eagle9]

I'd not count on it Nancy. People have been slavishly following Wilcocks after 12plus years of failure and the GFL after nearly FORTY years of failure. And new recruits on the way daily.

Deeply wounded people is about as much sympathy as I have for them and they know not what they do even as they do it over and over and over again. This is the reality they want to create, another epoch of 'waiting' for something to happen. Pepole waited 2000 years for Christ to return and well....you get the idea. Wounded people consistently set themselves up to be failed again and again, and what can you do.

I'm the first person who'd love for this stuff to be true but after observing the same way people are gratified with illusions rather than learning to orchestrate reality I really just don't have the luxury of doing so. I do have the luxury of creating circumstances and you'd think that Drake's esoteric 'studies' would have shown him that.

Big difference in 'study's and expressing that knowledge in one's life. Which Drake doesn't seem to be doing.

A new twist on the same old Chakra Flogging--a Militant Chakra Flogger.

[SilentFeathers]

It's a clown show - I knew I shoulda relied on Bill from the day of his first peep. justonegullibleman

Justoneman, go look into the nearest mirror for who most to rely on brother. You want information from Source? There it is looking at You, waiting for the asking/commanding..http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/yes4.gif

Cheers Mate,
Fred

That's what I often do Fred and I rely mostly on my own intuition and "knowing". The powers that be are within each and every one of us...not in a small group of psychopathic cronies who hate all life and creation.

Nothing feels right about any of this when I seek the PTB that are within me.....the only thing that this really feels like it some type of weird psyops and manipulation, part of a much larger operation....and sadly I feel the "operation" has nothing to do with the scenario drake is laying out.

Perhaps the "rule of opposites" may apply and be somewhat beneficial.

[Fred Steeves]

after observing the same way people are gratified with illusions rather than learning to orchestrate reality

That fairly well sums things up...The only way we even begin to shed our illusions, much less beginning to comprehend our True Selves, is when we first begin to recognize that we even have these illusions in the first place.

Far as I can tell up til now, there is no other way. And it ain't so easy...

Cheers,
Fred

[aranuk]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan

[SilentFeathers]

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan

Are you the Administrator of this forum Stan? if not leave me the hell alone, this is the 3rd time you've been aggressive and insulting towards me......and the last you said is that you put me on your ignore list???? What the hell is wrong with you sir?

I also want to know why you are singling me out and target me alone when I am not the only one having this type of mindset about this whole Drake thing?

[9eagle9]

Because its a learning experience. I've learned this years back but...some people are knew to how people walk in circles and there's a morbid fasination to watching someone light their hair on fire repeatedly.

There's a progress of emotions that occurs watching this sort of thing especially if you have been watching it for a long time.

Incredulality.

Disbelief.

The feeling you can 'help' these people.

Pity.

Anger.

Contempt.

Bemusement (that sets in after about 10 years)

Resignation.

Detachment.

Filing it away as the same crap the government does except they aren't the government.

Humor (or you you start the whole process all over again).

No of course people are not going to start taking you seriously until you take yourself seriously.




I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan

[Billy]

It is not about Drake, It is about you.

Peace

[SilentFeathers]

It is not about Drake, It is about you.

Peace

Obviously, didn't realize I was drawing so much attention!

[promezeus]

JohnKettler.com is an interesting site. They are somewhat in alignment with the mass arrest/et scenarios, but they claim to have their own direct et/ed contacts as well as insider contacts. DreamsinDigital is a moderator there and posts as Sunfire. They think the mass arrests will occur later this year, maybe october, as I understand it.
They are quite sociable folks and try to answer virtually any question in their comment section.

They also say:
Alex Jones is a disinfo agent.
Obama is a Cabal agent.
96% of channelled info is Cabal run AI, including the GFL.
Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and David Icke had their souls removed at some point and replaced with Cabal-aligned, Reptoid souls. This process, or killing the target and replacing with a Reptoid clone, seems to be a common way of handling public figures who are not aligned with the cabal.

[NancyV]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan
Darn! I feel so left out! Here I've been trying to be as negative as SilentFeathers and you just ignore me and my negativity!
:Cry:
Maybe you're a sexist and won't criticize women.....hmmm ... I guess I'll just have to try harder to out do SilentFeathers with my realistic OOPS I mean negative outlook on Drake.

Actually it's easy to figure out why the Drake true believers get angry with those who don't believe. It's threatening to have ones illusions questioned or attacked, so we have an urge to attack back. We need to blame someone else besides ourselves or, God forbid, the actual LIAR, Drake. Even if we who call bullcrap on Drake are correct, and we'll all SOON KNOW, we won't be liked by those who were incorrect, in fact we'll probably be hated even more and maybe even blamed for the "plan" falling through. Just as Drake is blaming the military for the mass arrests being delayed, we non believers are likely to be the fall guys for the believers. Our negativity undoubtedly changed the reality and the ET's probably want all of us to believe before they can come to our rescue!

Whoopeeee! Lucky us. I'm so excited that by June 21st we'll get to see a lot of the Cabal "EXTINGUISHED"!! Should be quite a show getting to see hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. and then it will be so much fun to see the "residual and corrupt humans left after culling the Cabal" who are to be "found and extracted". Wow....that gives me shivers. I sure hope I'm not one of the "residual and corrupt humans"!

[9eagle9]

I'm pretty sure I'm one of those residual and corrupt human beings. I'd not worry about being extracted after all look at who they are going to send after you.

When they come looking for you wear a gown and stick a lamp up your skirt and explain the lumiscent glow as you being a manifestation of you are mother nature and you'll be okay.(no , they won't notice the cord hanging our your rear end...lol)

If someone sent David Wilcoks after you Nancy I'd implode on my own mirth.




When


I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan
Darn! I feel so left out! Here I've been trying to be as negative as SilentFeathers and you just ignore me and my negativity!
:Cry:
Maybe you're a sexist and won't criticize women.....hmmm ... I guess I'll just have to try harder to out do SilentFeathers with my realistic OOPS I mean negative outlook on Drake.

Actually it's easy to figure out why the Drake true believers get angry with those who don't believe. It's threatening to have ones illusions questioned or attacked, so we have an urge to attack back. We need to blame someone else besides ourselves or, God forbid, the actual LIAR, Drake. Even if we who call bullcrap on Drake are correct, and we'll all SOON KNOW, we won't be liked by those who were incorrect, in fact we'll probably be hated even more and maybe even blamed for the "plan" falling through. Just as Drake is blaming the military for the mass arrests being delayed, we non believers are likely to be the fall guys for the believers. Our negativity undoubtedly changed the reality and the ET's probably want all of us to believe before they can come to our rescue!

Whoopeeee! Lucky us. I'm so excited that by June 21st we'll get to see a lot of the Cabal "EXTINGUISHED"!! Should be quite a show getting to see hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. and then it will be so much fun to see the "residual and corrupt humans left after culling the Cabal" who are to be "found and extracted". Wow....that gives me shivers. I sure hope I'm not one of the "residual and corrupt humans"!

[eaglespirit]

Hang On To Your Seats Folks...and be as good as you can possibly be in each and every moment in front of you because the whole darn works is about to 'light up' with happenings you ain't never had a remote idea or inkling would transpire in these transformation rock n' roll times we are blasting off into unto on to !!!

[NancyV]

I'm pretty sure I'm one of those residual and corrupt human beings. I'd not worry about being extracted after all look at who they are going to send after you.

When they come looking for you wear a gown and stick a lamp up your skirt and explain the lumiscent glow as you being a manifestation of you are mother nature and you'll be okay.(no , they won't notice the cord hanging our your rear end...lol)

If someone sent David Wilcoks after you Nancy I'd implode on my own mirth.
You're right, 9Eagle! I'll probably die laughing if they show up to extract me! If you're one of the residual and corrupt humans then I'll be in good company.
:kiss:

[gripreaper]

It's a fascinating drama watching people be sucked into believing totally insane and ridiculous statements with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Hopefully those who are "believers" will learn some discernment when future wackos come along with more ridiculous lies.

Edward Bernays would be so proud, wouldn't he? I watched a documentary about him once and there was an example of marketing "cake mix" when it first came out, and nobody would buy it. So, Bernays came up with the idea that the person wanting to make the cake would add an egg to the recipe, and guess what? The cake mix sold like crazy once the egg was added.

It's a very subtle but effective twist to include the person making the cake to add an ingredient. Should tell us something about human nature. Those in charge understand human nature better than we ourselves do.

[9eagle9]

It's all advertising. (or is it prostitution....hmmm...)

Anyway one of them is the world's oldest profession.

They are masters of psychology and we have to be too.




It's a fascinating drama watching people be sucked into believing totally insane and ridiculous statements with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Hopefully those who are "believers" will learn some discernment when future wackos come along with more ridiculous lies.

Edward Bernays would be so proud, wouldn't he? I watched a documentary about him once and there was an example of marketing "cake mix" when it first came out, and nobody would buy it. So, Bernays came up with the idea that the person wanting to make the cake would add an egg to the recipe, and guess what? The cake mix sold like crazy once the egg was added.

It's a very subtle but effective twist to include the person making the cake to add an ingredient. Should tell us something about human nature. Those in charge understand human nature better than we ourselves do.

[SilentFeathers]

Well, all I got left to say at the moment is that if the spaceships land or the cabal is taken down on the 21st, I won't eat my hat, I'll eat my shorts (and they are nasty)........and just for Stan's sake, I will leave this forum. (Did you hear that Stan?) :)

I am a man of my word :bolt:

PS: I'm pretty confident I'll still be here on the 22nd and won't have to do the nasty short eating thing!

[Selene]

June 21, is it now? Not May 5? 'Scuse me, I think I'll go back to sleep.....


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6986/attackedbyfeatherscontr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/attackedbyfeatherscontr.jpg/)

(Ooops - didn't mean your fine feathers, SF! LOL!)


Cheers,

Selene

[UnrealDreams]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t


I have to say, I agree with you 100%. I believe this is all made up. I am not just guessing about this. A member of my immediate family has worked at the Pentagon. I can assure you that there is no "plan" to arrest the cabal. The technical description for this action Drake describes would be a military coup. Let's get this straight. We are talking about an illegal military action here. I would be extremely careful about supplying any kind of active support for an illegal movement such as this. Use your own common sense, people.

Why would Drake have to send an open letter to the military if he has contacts inside the Pentagon? I thought his contacts were ready to act? Is the truth now coming out? That Drake has made all of this up and is now asking the military to help, because he has no contacts inside the Pentagon, and there is verifiably no plan to arrest the cabal?

At the same time, there are good people putting a lot of effort into helping this "plan" come to fruition. Please be careful in dealing with Drake. Anyone who talks about an armed revolution is talking about Civil War. That is not the answer to our problems. BEWARE!!!! My take is that there is a plan, for sure. A plan to expose those who would be actively complicit in this kind of a scenario. BEWARE!!!! Make sure you don't cross the line between hoping that something happens that will free us all, and being actively involved in an illegal military coup. My beautiful friends, be very careful.

I also would like to say, while I don't believe any of this Drake stuff, I completely respect the rights of others who do believe this. It is vital that you take in all of this information and decide for yourself. Free will to make your own choices based on all of the available information is vital.

[frozen alchemy]

Duplicate post, sorry

[promezeus]

You cynics think you are the wise ones with the objective viewpoint. HOwever, I consider you to be the least credible people here. Your viewpoint is rigid, your mind is closed, and your attitude is disrespectful. This is the hallmark of a loser, someone who cannot see the nose on their own face so they don't believe it's there. Your cabal programming predicts your future perfectly. When your 3d world falls apart, so will you, and that will be the beginning of your awakening, or your death, as you choose. For many of the rest of us, we don't need to believe or disbelieve. We go with the flow of our own intuition, and we are not afraid to have that change in a flash, and our viewpoint with it. We love to be challenged in the spirit of growth. Flexibility is the hallmark of life. Rigidity is the hallmark of death.

[SilentFeathers]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t


I have to say, I agree with you 100%. I believe this is all made up. I am not just guessing about this. A member of my immediate family has worked at the Pentagon. I can assure you that there is no "plan" to arrest the cabal. The technical description for this action Drake describes would be a military coup. Let's get this straight. We are talking about an illegal military action here. I would be extremely careful about supplying any kind of active support for an illegal movement such as this. Use your own common sense, people.

Why would Drake have to send an open letter to the military if he has contacts inside the Pentagon? I thought his contacts were ready to act? Is the truth now coming out? That Drake has made all of this up and is now asking the military to help, because he has no contacts inside the Pentagon, and there is verifiably no plan to arrest the cabal?

At the same time, there are good people putting a lot of effort into helping this "plan" come to fruition. Please be careful in dealing with Drake. Anyone who talks about an armed revolution is talking about Civil War. That is not the answer to our problems. BEWARE!!!! My take is that there is a plan, for sure. A plan to expose those who would be actively complicit in this kind of a scenario. BEWARE!!!! Make sure you don't cross the line between hoping that something happens that will free us all, and being actively involved in an illegal military coup. My beautiful friends, be very careful.

I also would like to say, while I don't believe any of this Drake stuff, I completely respect the rights of others who do believe this. It is vital that you take in all of this information and decide for yourself. Free will to make your own choices based on all of the available information is vital.

This is pretty much the same way I see it...what a great way to flag people and locate militias. It could very easily be a trap for many, that is why I've been so vocal about this, or what some are calling, being "negative" about this. I find it strange that many won't even consider this possibility.

[frozen alchemy]

You cynics think you are the wise ones with the objective viewpoint. HOwever, I consider you to be the least credible people here. Your viewpoint is rigid, your mind is closed, and your attitude is disrespectful. This is the hallmark of a loser, someone who cannot see the nose on their own face so they don't believe it's there. Your cabal programming predicts your future perfectly. When your 3d world falls apart, so will you, and that will be the beginning of your awakening, or your death, as you choose. For many of the rest of us, we don't need to believe or disbelieve. We go with the flow of our own intuition, and we are not afraid to have that change in a flash, and our viewpoint with it. Flexibility is the hallmark of life. Rigidity is the hallmark of death.

There IS some space between rigidity and cynicism and complete gullibility. Let me know when your saviour comes through for you, but you might consider that being lied by someone pretending to know something you do not is the height of disrespect.

The reason I'm reacting so strongly against all this crapola is that real people are listening to this drivel and basing life decisions on it, and not the kind of life decisions that involve 'going with the flow' or 'voting on the cabal'. If these people are lying, in any way, shape or form, it is treason against humanity just as surely as the cabal has rendered. Perhaps more, because they are portraying themselves as helpers and knowing something the rest of us do not have access to. I'm tired of being lied to by the cabal and I'm even more tired of being lied to by people who pretend to be spiritually advanced, and that includes the "Pleiadians" and the "Archons" and all the rest of the non-proven entities. Notice how when you ask for proof, you're accused of not being enlightened? It's another religion, and that's all and religions have done more harm to society than any amount of money grubbing sociopaths.

[9eagle9]

Intuition is about the last thing I'd suggest you are following.

Being told one's destiny is spiritual how, or having someone else orchestrate it is spiritual or even challenging how?

All in all Drakes plan is beyond limiting.


You cynics think you are the wise ones with the objective viewpoint. HOwever, I consider you to be the least credible people here. Your viewpoint is rigid, your mind is closed, and your attitude is disrespectful. This is the hallmark of a loser, someone who cannot see the nose on their own face so they don't believe it's there. Your cabal programming predicts your future perfectly. When your 3d world falls apart, so will you, and that will be the beginning of your awakening, or your death, as you choose. For many of the rest of us, we don't need to believe or disbelieve. We go with the flow of our own intuition, and we are not afraid to have that change in a flash, and our viewpoint with it. We love to be challenged in the spirit of growth. Flexibility is the hallmark of life. Rigidity is the hallmark of death.

[LarryC]

You cynics think you are the wise ones with the objective viewpoint. HOwever, I consider you to be the least credible people here. Your viewpoint is rigid, your mind is closed, and your attitude is disrespectful. This is the hallmark of a loser, someone who cannot see the nose on their own face so they don't believe it's there. Your cabal programming predicts your future perfectly. When your 3d world falls apart, so will you, and that will be the beginning of your awakening, or your death, as you choose. For many of the rest of us, we don't need to believe or disbelieve. We go with the flow of our own intuition, and we are not afraid to have that change in a flash, and our viewpoint with it. We love to be challenged in the spirit of growth. Flexibility is the hallmark of life. Rigidity is the hallmark of death.

Cynicism can be hard to resist, especially for those who mainly live in the intellectual realm. It makes one feel so clever and superior. Plus, it's safe -it reassures the ego that *I* haven't been taken in like those foolish others. Best (or worst) of all, cynics are usually right, at least in the short run. The downside is that it closes you off to true transformation and the unexpected.

[9eagle9]

I'm not particularly cynical about the whole thing anymore than I am about watching another syndicated drama or repeat of the Brady Bunch.

The powers that be and those hapless people who follow the hapless pawns of the powers that be would like nothing more than using one's own discernment, one's own already claimed self authority and one's own critical thinking skills to be labeled as cynicism and self limiting.

That which I possess k/now is richer than anything Drake can promise me later.

Trust me you I would like nothing better than to have some huge mother ship pack yall off to another planet so this crap is not perpetrated for a dozen more generations.

I have a feeling my seemingly inexhaustible luck will exhaust itself there.

[LarryC]

Well, all I got left to say at the moment is that if the spaceships land or the cabal is taken down on the 21st, I won't eat my hat, I'll eat my shorts (and they are nasty)........and just for Stan's sake, I will leave this forum. (Did you hear that Stan?) :)

I am a man of my word :bolt:

PS: I'm pretty confident I'll still be here on the 22nd and won't have to do the nasty short eating thing!

If spaceships land and/or the cabal is taken down, saying "I told you so" to some naysayers on a forum will be the last thing on my mind.

[Kimberley]

Maybe Kimberley can contact Drake?

Lorraine

I will try !!! that is my job!!

Will report when I have more information!

Much love !!!! KJ

[Dennis Leahy]

I haven't said anything in this thread for about 482 pages or so, and thought I might throw a few popcorn kernels in the fire...

If Drake had only made the one, initial audio file, I might still be thinking this is going to happen. I remember I said something like, "I'm convinced that he's convinced", or in other words, Drake did not sound like a liar. I didn't get any liar vibes at all. The tantrum/meltdown over words written in a forum (Avalon) and the invocation of either litigation in the corrupt court or Asian Mafia dudes kicking the poster's ass was astounding. I gave him a day or two to make a sincere, "holy crap, I flipped out! Sorry! Ungodly pressure...no sleep...dog ate my homework..." or something... but nothing. I then paid Paul off on the bet we made. Paul may yet have the afterglow of the moo juice on his upper lip.

Since then, Drake let on that he is not in the military loop, directly (other than having seen a thick 3-ring binder about [the plan? or proof of guilt of the bad guys? or?.] I guess he got info second or third hand? He also publicly chastised the military for not doing the plan. At that point, I started making arrangements to send Paul a cow.

Then Drake associated with Brockbrader, as if that was going to increase his credibility. Add two more hormone-free, organically fed cows to Paul's pile.

A bit of shaking, and stirring, and discord, and the FreedomReigns and the original web-radio station were history. Add 10 bales of non-GMO alfalfa.

Enter the Dragon Lady, er, I mean Lady Dragon. Having heard a few sentences from her, I had to go tend my garden or iron my T-shirt or something. Then I went to her purple palace on the Intertubes and oh yeah, I guess I did offer a bit of commentary at that point. One of our beloved members, Michele (Avocadess) - and I'm sincere, you gotta love that woman - was so sweet and said Lady Dragon had too much personality for the mix. (I think Avocadess has a heart the size of Jacksonville, FL.) And suddenly we were voting about what to do with reptilians and reptilian-influenced malevolent humans... at the Lady Dragon's lair. Add two acres of grassy pastureland. And call Ridley Scott.

By midnight on Thursday, the 21st of June, 2012, Make Music Chicago festival will be over, Dump the Pump day will be over (and we'll be back at the gas pumps), the Lady Gaga Concert in Sydney will have ended (though a few thousand cochleas will remain damaged), and the Summer Solstice, the Vernal Equinox, will have left it's mark on all flowering plants. Did I miss anything?

I want to give a shout-out to my brothers and sisters that want this to happen so badly they can taste it. I love you individually and collectively. Some folks here think you are idiots for not catching on, but I don't feel that way at all. You're hearing the same thing I'm hearing, and processing it. You are making a conscious choice what to do with the processed data, and what to set aside for now. You have made the conscious decision to "hold a space in your heart" and/or are "focusing your intent" unwaveringly on a good outcome. I find no fault with you. Just like virtually every person splashing cold water in your face and slapping you, I hope beyond hope that any part of this is true. You think we wouldn't be waving to the ship taking unrepentant Cabal creeps on a one-way ride to "Central Sun?" You think we won't crank the (possibly rusty) door on our heart chakras wide open, and embrace a global paradigm change?

I wanted to make sure everyone remembers we're on the same team - regardless of what happens or doesn't happen in the next few days... or months (if dates are moved.) We'll either cheer together, or regroup and figure something out - together.

Dennis

[gripreaper]

I wanted to make sure everyone remembers we're on the same team - regardless of what happens or doesn't happen in the next few days... or months (if dates are moved.) We'll either cheer together, or regroup and figure something out - together.

Dennis

Does that mean your busy mixing up a bowl of that famous guacamole we've heard so much about?

[modwiz]

I have a feeling Drake drew the line and lost some followers with the alien stuff and the fear mongering about the earth destroying everything etc., but I may be wrong as many love this kind of stuff and the more bizarre, the more fear, the better.

Whats Drake gonna do when he figures out 99% of the people would rather stay home on their couch and watch sponge bob instead of meddling in world affairs that will save their lives, and the military writes or calls him back all pissed off because Drake has basically threatened them and claims his beer drinking militia of a couple hundred dudes will do the job and save the world if they won't get off their lazy asses and do it themselves, and that the aliens for some reason or another just don't show up???????? but I guess all that doesn't matter because the Mother Earth is gonna destroy everything and kill us all anyways!!!!?????

Come on folks..... haven't you heard enough of this BS? Haven't you been misled and lied to enough?

There is absolutely not a single fiber in my being that believes any of this.....especially after listening to this latest episode.

Added: I now consider myself delusional...... for wasting my afternoon listening to this horses""t

If you are that fed up why bother listening dude? Stir up some **** on your own webpage instead of stirring it up here if you don't mind. Start insulting people on your own forum instead of trying to gain support of your own negative ideas. My opinion, take a hike back to your own forum.

Stan
Darn! I feel so left out! Here I've been trying to be as negative as SilentFeathers and you just ignore me and my negativity!
:Cry:
Maybe you're a sexist and won't criticize women.....hmmm ... I guess I'll just have to try harder to out do SilentFeathers with my realistic OOPS I mean negative outlook on Drake.

Actually it's easy to figure out why the Drake true believers get angry with those who don't believe. It's threatening to have ones illusions questioned or attacked, so we have an urge to attack back. We need to blame someone else besides ourselves or, God forbid, the actual LIAR, Drake. Even if we who call bullcrap on Drake are correct, and we'll all SOON KNOW, we won't be liked by those who were incorrect, in fact we'll probably be hated even more and maybe even blamed for the "plan" falling through. Just as Drake is blaming the military for the mass arrests being delayed, we non believers are likely to be the fall guys for the believers. Our negativity undoubtedly changed the reality and the ET's probably want all of us to believe before they can come to our rescue!

Whoopeeee! Lucky us. I'm so excited that by June 21st we'll get to see a lot of the Cabal "EXTINGUISHED"!! Should be quite a show getting to see hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. and then it will be so much fun to see the "residual and corrupt humans left after culling the Cabal" who are to be "found and extracted". Wow....that gives me shivers. I sure hope I'm not one of the "residual and corrupt humans"!

Nancy, you present your 'negativity' with well thought out ideas. You actually have something to say. You bring your own lunch to the one you do not care for. Big difference.

[eaglespirit]

BE The Best YOU Can Possibly Be, Now!!!

[Alie]

I would like to say that there might be some people (like me) who ARE NOT desperately waiting for this to happen --- sitting on our butts, wringing our hands, calling out to ETs/EDs to SAVE US,etc. Rather, we are watching a scenario unfold (or not unfold) that we believe has a probability of happening based on our own research. We ARE NOT foolish, wishful thinking, naive Project Avalon members.

I would really appreciate if the "negativity" that Modwiz has politely referenced, just stop! I DON'T give a $x *T if you believe Drake or not. I don't care if anyone else on the planet believes Drake. I have NOT or WILL NOT try to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. If you are right, I don't care. So, I'll just go on and live life the best way I can. My feeling is that "nothing ventured, nothing gained".

May I remind you that the TITLE of this THREAD suggested that it was Drake "Updates, Clarifications & More". Certainly the negativity falls under "more", but the "spirit" of the thread was certainly not what this thread has become for some --- sarcastic implication that those of us who have been following Drake are dupes.

Also, I would like to suggest that Sabrina's thread has provided us with information suggesting that something very NEW and unprecedented has been taking place with some powerful people throughout the world.

[SilentFeathers]

Well, all I got left to say at the moment is that if the spaceships land or the cabal is taken down on the 21st, I won't eat my hat, I'll eat my shorts (and they are nasty)........and just for Stan's sake, I will leave this forum. (Did you hear that Stan?) :)

I am a man of my word :bolt:

PS: I'm pretty confident I'll still be here on the 22nd and won't have to do the nasty short eating thing!

If spaceships land and/or the cabal is taken down, saying "I told you so" to some naysayers on a forum will be the last thing on my mind.

The last thing I'll do is say "I told you so" also. But I will openly apologize to the members here that I have obviously offended with my "negativity" before I leave this forum, and I will leave, as I did give my word that I would.

It was never my intention to "offend" or harm any one on this forum in any way what so ever, but to possibly convince some others to see certain things from more than just one angle, therefore, I stand firm on everything I've' said thus far and I don't feel the need at this moment to apologize to anyone for being who I am and speaking "my" truth" the way I see it.....

I will also do my best to refrain from posting anymore "negative" comments pertaining to this subject matter in order to not derail all the positive energy here in this thread further, and also in respect to a few other members requests.

Have a great day!

[Kimberley]

I would like to say that there might be some people (like me) who ARE NOT desperately waiting for this to happen --- sitting on our butts, wringing our hands, calling out to ETs/EDs to SAVE US,etc. Rather, we are watching a scenario unfold (or not unfold) that we believe has a probability of happening based on our own research. We ARE NOT foolish, wishful thinking, naive Project Avalon members.

I would really appreciate if the "negativity" that Modwiz has politely referenced, just stop! I DON'T give a $x *T if you believe Drake or not. I don't care if anyone else on the planet believes Drake. I have NOT or WILL NOT try to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. If you are right, I don't care. So, I'll just go on and live life the best way I can. My feeling is that "nothing ventured, nothing gained".

May I remind you that the TITLE of this THREAD suggested that it was Drake "Updates, Clarifications & More". Certainly the negativity falls under "more", but the "spirit" of the thread was certainly not what this thread has become for some --- sarcastic implication that those of us who have been following Drake are dupes.

Also, I would like to suggest that Sabrina's thread has provided us with information suggesting that something very NEW and unprecedented has been taking place with some powerful people throughout the world.

I second this!!! Thanks Alie!

Much love to us all!!

[Bill Ryan]

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Maybe I can join forces with SilentFeathers and we'll make a meal of his shorts and my hat together. It'd make a good video, like Mick Jagger and David Bowie Dancing in the Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ). :)

(Sigh. When will well-meaning but naive people ever learn? Nothing will happen. The universe, and Planet Earth, are both considerably more complex than this.)

[WHOMADEGOD]

Whether the facts are indeed just that or simply one of the greatest stories ever written, what remains is something we ALL have in common, and that is a future we ALL want, how we get there, who knows but wanting it is a good start.

[peace]

maybe those of us who are screaming, "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN," are doing it because we care about this forum, those in it, and the general well being of those that participate on here. this drake stuff is just another deflection; gobbling up your time and energy. maybe we are just trying to help you see that. maybe it's not always presented in the most positive way, but that's because you are being mislead.

'well, who are you to say what i do with my time and energy.' no one. but you are wasting your time and energy

i know that's my thing. i think this is utter crap and again, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.

but then we are attacked by the ego police, being told, "it's about you and your ego," et al. then we are slammed by the ego police with the passive aggressive b.s., not hard enough to earn a warning from mods, but just enough to be crappy and generally rude.

i know it's a favorite attack of a few people in the last few pages, i've felt it before. passive aggressive b.s., because someone on the internet doesn't agree with you.

nothing will happen. i just feel bad for you.

ignore this, go passive aggressive on me, whatever. i care about you.

just very tired of being told, or reading others being told: "if you don't think like me, screw off. why are you being soooo negative?"

but keep up that passive aggressiveness if you can't think up something polite. it seems to work.

[Kimberley]

If anyone can could you mention to Drake about the Koch Brothers?

I will pass on your request...

I was not aware of them so thank you for letting us that do not know know...

Much love!


Here is a great article from Rolling Stone magazine:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/the-koch-brothers-exposed-20120420


If the Koch brothers didn't exist, the left would have to invent them. They're the plutocrats from central casting – oil-and-gas billionaires ready to buy any congressman, fund any lie, fight any law, bust any union, despoil any landscape, or shirk any (tax) burden to push their free-market religion and pump up their profits.


Koch Brothers Exposed: the Film... trailer

zc_3wsLd01s

[SilentFeathers]

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Maybe I can join forces with SilentFeathers and we'll make a meal of his shorts and my hat together. It'd make a good video, like Mick Jagger and David Bowie Dancing in the Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ). :)

(Sigh. When will well-meaning but naive people ever learn? Nothing will happen. The universe, and Planet Earth, are both considerably more complex than this.)

A meal like that would probably knock us down with a very severe stomach ache Bill, and we would be wishing that we were dancing around like Bowie and Jagger, instead of laying on the floor in agony and with a nasty taste in our mouth!

Odds are though, come June 22nd, you will still have your hat and I my shorts :)

PS: funny video! it brought back some memories of days gone by.....

[sdv]

May I suggest that this thread be moved to the Channeling category? I'm being serious, not sarcastic! It seems to be really important to some people to follow the Drake story and to eagerly await the next installment and they really don't seem to be fussed at all when what he says makes less and less sense and what he says is going to happen doesn't.

I don't propose this as a judgement (after all, let's keep the thread on the forum) but it seems to be that Bill Ryan and probably most on this forum do not endorse what Drake says, and any kind of discussion about the material (and aren't threads put here for discussion?) just ends up in a tiff that is not anchored in reason.

My personal view - let's move this thread to the channeled material category.

[RMorgan]

May I suggest that this thread be moved to the Channeling category? I'm being serious, not sarcastic! It seems to be really important to some people to follow the Drake story and to eagerly await the next installment and they really don't seem to be fussed at all when what he says makes less and less sense and what he says is going to happen doesn't.

I don't propose this as a judgement (after all, let's keep the thread on the forum) but it seems to be that Bill Ryan and probably most on this forum do not endorse what Drake says, and any kind of discussion about the material (and aren't threads put here for discussion?) just ends up in a tiff that is not anchored in reason.

My personal view - let's move this thread to the channeled material category.

I agree, specially now; the channeling sub-forum was renamed to "channeled and other controversial material".

I think this thread belongs there as well.

Raf.

[gripreaper]

I don't see this thread as controversial.

How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?

And, how can benevolent ET's interceding on our behalf, taking out nuclear facilities, rescuing souls from evil motherships and freeing them to rehab centers, blowing up bad spaceships, planting nuclear submarine land darts at National Monuments, and working with their chosen liaisons such as Wilcock and Drake be controversial?

And how can global alliances of 144 nations, working with the military here in the US, as well as keeping Drake, Fulford and Wilcock apprised as to "the plan" to arrest all of the evil nefarious psychopaths and restore freedom and self determination, including a global debt jubilee and the distribution of the collateral accounts, as well as implementing NESARA and reversing all environmental as well as nuclear harm to this planet, be controversial?

Just because a bunch of ET's got together with a couple of patriot freedom fighters in a global alliance to reverse millennium's of slavery and control, does not make it controversial.

[gripreaper]

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/June20128/burgers.jpg

[mountain_jim]

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/June20128/burgers.jpg


Yes, that cartoon is so appropro to the various discussions here :)

When I saw it (at Icke's Headlines site), I posted it in Song's How Much Transformation is Really Wanted thread earlier today. You can see how much transformation they wanted, voting with their feet, as it were.

[gripreaper]

I posted it in Song's How Much Transformation is Really Wanted thread earlier today. You can see how much transformation they wanted, voting with their feet, as it were.

That's where I stole it from! Thanks!

[grampah]

The transcript of the Wilcock and Drake long interview is posted at:

http://americannationalmilitia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/INTRODUCTION.pdf

The transcriber added some corrections, clarifications and related links.

[peace]

rape. domestic violence. poverty. wars (a few).
all happening.
right now.
haven't seen a lawn dart; haven't seen anyone freed, debris of spaceships, or any nuclear facilities being taken out (and they are doing a great job helping with japan's nuclear problem right now ... oh, wait).

there is absolutely NO basis for citing these things, as there is NO PROOF. if it's happened, please show us. you can't, because none of these things have/will happen. and here we are pages into this thread with nothing but the word of wilcock/drake.

hardly people we can rely on for good, hard data.

it's silly. not controversial.

so.

stop.

[foreverfan]

I don't see this thread as controversial.

How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?

And, how can benevolent ET's interceding on our behalf, taking out nuclear facilities, rescuing souls from evil motherships and freeing them to rehab centers, blowing up bad spaceships, planting nuclear submarine land darts at National Monuments, and working with their chosen liaisons such as Wilcock and Drake be controversial?

And how can global alliances of 144 nations, working with the military here in the US, as well as keeping Drake, Fulford and Wilcock apprised as to "the plan" to arrest all of the evil nefarious psychopaths and restore freedom and self determination, including a global debt jubilee and the distribution of the collateral accounts, as well as implementing NESARA and reversing all environmental as well as nuclear harm to this planet, be controversial?

Just because a bunch of ET's got together with a couple of patriot freedom fighters in a global alliance to reverse millennium's of slavery and control, does not make it controversial.

All the Bad ET's are on Lock Down.

http://www.popfi.com/wp-content/uploads/illegalaliencostume.jpg

[Avocadess]

With the thus-far lack of commitment of the U.S. military (and certainly the U.S. politicians) to We the People, I find myself looking more and more hopefully toward CONTACT and Divine Intervention. Thus, I was happy to receive this in an email today and copy and paste it here:

[beginning QUOTE]

Since the time of disclosure is coming and there comes a point of official contact people from other civilizations, encourage our guests as soon as possible to take this step, through meditation and sending a clear signal that we are ready as the humanity of the contact, and eagerly await them. Meditation will take place at the summer solstice, how magical and meaningful to many cultures.

1. Relax your body and mind. Focus for a few minutes on his breath.

2.Imagine an electric pole blue light emanating from the Central Sun of the Galaxy, which passes through your body to the center of the Earth. Please keep the beam of light for several minutes.

3. Then imagine, as violet flame embraces the whole planet, filling every cell, every atom of our planet and all of us, clearing of all negative emotions and thoughts, and from all evil. Visualize how people become free from anxiety and fear, as they become open to each other, and fills their love and peace. Feel the love and the divine unity of all peoples and the Earth and its nature.

4. Now, visualize, as in television and other media, a compromise has occurred. The mass media report the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the whole truth comes out.

5. Then visualize how it comes to official human contact with other civilizations. The event is broadcast by all media. See, that humanity welcomes guests with calm, confidence and love. See how people between the newcomers and energy flows of love and brotherhood. Feel the love that now, and send it with the intention of contacting the Family of the Star, which has already arrived here and waiting for the opportunity to communicate.

6. Now imagine your direct contact, as he looks, how you feel, what you ask, what are you doing? Stay with this picture a few minutes.

The exact time of meditation, Wednesday June 20 23:11 BST (London time).

Here timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html can be converted for your time zone.

[END QUOTE By soulowicz • Posted in extra-terrestrials, Meditations, Lightworkers]


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The following is a video DRAKE would like everyone to watch. (I like it!!!) Drake also requested that everyone call the Pentagon and White House and say we're tired of waiting and it's time to arrest and depose the crooks at the top.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&;v=6G2z9rnS3Bo#!


Me? I won't be calling the White House or Pentagon. I called the United Nations over 25 years ago and the kind of response I got was enough to cure me of calling any top governmental type offices for good. Sorry, Drake. I DO want our military to do the right thing, and I have asked them in every other way I can, but I am not going to call them on the phone. I guess I have lost faith in them. I would not discourage others who want to do so, however, so here are the phone numbers Drake gave in case you want to call them. A good place to start would be for them to arrest Erik Holder who is up on felony charges:


Pentagon: (703) 545-6700

White House: (202) 456-1111


Wishing you the best day EVER!!


Avocadess

[grampah]

In the long Wilcock-Drake interview I've posted above, David W asked Drake does his proposal have anything to do with Tim Turner's Restore America. Drake said emphatically no. So I looked up 'this Ted Turner" of whom I had never read/heard a word. Here's the rather slick, well done website. "They" presented their declaration to the Hague in 2010 and are organized and active in many states. Turner is "the president".

http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org/

[SilentFeathers]

With the thus-far lack of commitment of the U.S. military (and certainly the U.S. politicians) to We the People, I find myself looking more and more hopefully toward CONTACT and Divine Intervention.

I sense your somewhat losing faith in Drake a bit or having 2nd or even third thoughts......that's alright though, you really have been a great help so far reporting on this and keeping us posted. Your updates are appreciated and I mean that sincerely even though I'm not much of a believer, as you know.

It's important to keep up with everything one can regardless IMO regardless if you believe it or not. One can learn a lot regardless if its a lie or not....

I feel Drake ramped up his story in order to align and or compete with cobra's claims, .....or he's shutting it down (when nothing happens the 21st)......the only other reason I can see is he's gonna change his tune again and say we the people ain't ready and he's been invited to meet with the aliens on there ship and will report back in a undetermined amount of time with more "inside information" (and a new plan)....I'm not being sarcastic, I seriously think it'll play out something like this....

[Chester]

I haven't said anything in this thread for about 482 pages or so, and thought I might throw a few popcorn kernels in the fire...

If Drake had only made the one, initial audio file, I might still be thinking this is going to happen. I remember I said something like, "I'm convinced that he's convinced", or in other words, Drake did not sound like a liar. I didn't get any liar vibes at all. The tantrum/meltdown over words written in a forum (Avalon) and the invocation of either litigation in the corrupt court or Asian Mafia dudes kicking the poster's ass was astounding. I gave him a day or two to make a sincere, "holy crap, I flipped out! Sorry! Ungodly pressure...no sleep...dog ate my homework..." or something... but nothing. I then paid Paul off on the bet we made. Paul may yet have the afterglow of the moo juice on his upper lip.

Since then, Drake let on that he is not in the military loop, directly (other than having seen a thick 3-ring binder about [the plan? or proof of guilt of the bad guys? or?.] I guess he got info second or third hand? He also publicly chastised the military for not doing the plan. At that point, I started making arrangements to send Paul a cow.

Then Drake associated with Brockbrader, as if that was going to increase his credibility. Add two more hormone-free, organically fed cows to Paul's pile.

A bit of shaking, and stirring, and discord, and the FreedomReigns and the original web-radio station were history. Add 10 bales of non-GMO alfalfa.

Enter the Dragon Lady, er, I mean Lady Dragon. Having heard a few sentences from her, I had to go tend my garden or iron my T-shirt or something. Then I went to her purple palace on the Intertubes and oh yeah, I guess I did offer a bit of commentary at that point. One of our beloved members, Michele (Avocadess) - and I'm sincere, you gotta love that woman - was so sweet and said Lady Dragon had too much personality for the mix. (I think Avocadess has a heart the size of Jacksonville, FL.) And suddenly we were voting about what to do with reptilians and reptilian-influenced malevolent humans... at the Lady Dragon's lair. Add two acres of grassy pastureland. And call Ridley Scott.

By midnight on Thursday, the 21st of June, 2012, Make Music Chicago festival will be over, Dump the Pump day will be over (and we'll be back at the gas pumps), the Lady Gaga Concert in Sydney will have ended (though a few thousand cochleas will remain damaged), and the Summer Solstice, the Vernal Equinox, will have left it's mark on all flowering plants. Did I miss anything?

I want to give a shout-out to my brothers and sisters that want this to happen so badly they can taste it. I love you individually and collectively. Some folks here think you are idiots for not catching on, but I don't feel that way at all. You're hearing the same thing I'm hearing, and processing it. You are making a conscious choice what to do with the processed data, and what to set aside for now. You have made the conscious decision to "hold a space in your heart" and/or are "focusing your intent" unwaveringly on a good outcome. I find no fault with you. Just like virtually every person splashing cold water in your face and slapping you, I hope beyond hope that any part of this is true. You think we wouldn't be waving to the ship taking unrepentant Cabal creeps on a one-way ride to "Central Sun?" You think we won't crank the (possibly rusty) door on our heart chakras wide open, and embrace a global paradigm change?

I wanted to make sure everyone remembers we're on the same team - regardless of what happens or doesn't happen in the next few days... or months (if dates are moved.) We'll either cheer together, or regroup and figure something out - together.

Dennis

Dennis, fantastic post. You are one of the most outstanding posters on this forum. I appreciate you greatly. I haven't always been in alignment with your positions, but you are genuine, you use your real name, you exhibit a real picture of yourself... thanks for being one of the main reasons I am certain this is the best forum on the entire planet.

Thanks Dennis, thanks.

[foreverfan]

I sense your somewhat losing faith in Drake a bit or having 2nd or even third thoughts......that's alright though, you really have been a great help so far reporting on this and keeping us posted. Your updates are appreciated and I mean that sincerely even though I'm not much of a believer, as you know.

Yea... thanks for all you do Avocadess.

I know the ridicule is difficult to take... we shall see soon enough. If you're wrong, everybody will feel your pain. Maybe it will be like the 100th monkey thing and everyone will feel so bad we can name a national holiday after you.

XOXOXOX

[Avocadess]

Additions and Corrections from my Blog Post today:

MATRIX GAME OVER

and Time to Welcome Extraterrestrial Assistance...!!


I used to have a lot of FEAR in regard to ETs. Now I do not fear them any more than I fear humans. Yes, there are some humans I would not want to let into my life and would rather never see and I'm sure there are ETs I would feel the same about. However, my understanding and belief is that the HELPING ETs -- those who are set to help us, and indeed have already been helping us behind the scenes (so to speak) are very much "like humans" and have no wish to frighten nor rule us. I HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT, being "ruled" -- by the worst (and obviously so). So do I fear the help of ETs? HEAVENS NO...I WELCOME THEM with much GRATITUDE...!!!



June 18, 2012 --


With the thus-far lack of commitment of the U.S. military (and certainly the U.S. politicians) to We the People, I find myself looking more and more hopefully toward CONTACT and Divine Intervention. Thus, I was happy to receive this in an email today and copy and paste it here:

[beginning of quote]

Since the time of disclosure is coming and there comes a point of official contact people from other civilizations, encourage our guests as soon as possible to take this step, through meditation and sending a clear signal that we are ready as the humanity of the contact, and eagerly await them. Meditation will take place at the summer solstice, how magical and meaningful to many cultures.

1. Relax your body and mind. Focus for a few minutes on his breath.
2.Imagine an electric pole blue light emanating from the Central Sun of the Galaxy, which passes through your
body to the center of the Earth. Please keep the beam of light for several minutes.
3. Then imagine, as violet flame embraces the whole planet, filling every cell, every atom of our planet and all
of us, clearing of all negative emotions and thoughts, and from all evil. Visualize how people become free from
anxiety and fear, as they become open to each other, and fills their love and peace. Feel the love and the divine
unity of all peoples and the Earth and its nature.
4. Now, visualize, as in television and other media, a compromise has occurred. The mass media report the
existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the whole truth comes out.
5. Then visualize how it comes to official human contact with other civilizations. The event is broadcast by all
media. See that humanity welcomes guests with calm, confidence and love. See how people between the
newcomers and energy flows of love and brotherhood. Feel the love that now, and send it with the intention of
contacting the Family of the Star, which has already arrived here and waiting for the opportunity to communicate.
6. Now imagine your direct contact, as he looks, how you feel, what you ask, what are you doing? Stay with this
picture a few minutes.

The exact time of meditation, Wednesday June 20th at 23:11 BST (London time).
Here http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html can be converted for your time zone.

By soulowicz • Posted in extra-terrestrials, Meditations, Lightworkers


[end of quote]

{Thanks to Barry for letting me know I needed to fix the word wrapping on the above meditation!!} NOTE: The time conversion can be tricky as the message gives military time and the converter is not military time, but by my calculations the time given is Wednesday, June 20th at 2:11 p.m. Central Time (9:11 a.m. HST -- Hawaii; 12:11 p.m. PST (Pacific) and 3:11 p.m. Eastern.


The following is a video DRAKE would like everyone to watch. (I like it!!!) Drake also requested that everyone call the Pentagon and White House and say we're tired of waiting and it's time to arrest and depose the crooks at the top.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&;v=6G2z9rnS3Bo#!


Me? I won't be calling the White House or Pentagon. I called the United Nations over 25 years ago and the kind of response I got was enough to cure me of calling any top governmental type offices for good. Sorry, Drake. I DO want our military to do the right thing, and I have asked them in every other way I can, but I am not going to call them on the phone. I guess I have lost faith in them. I would not discourage others who want to do so, however, so here are the phone numbers Drake gave in case you want to call them. A good place to start would be for them to arrest Erik Holder who is up on felony charges:


Pentagon: (703) 545-6700

White House: (202) 456-1111


Wishing you the best day EVER!!


Avocadess

[foreverfan]

Wait... I was just kidding.... LOL

[NancyV]

I bet you used a synonym thesaurus!!
:kiss:

I don't see this thread as controversial.

How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?

And, how can benevolent ET's interceding on our behalf, taking out nuclear facilities, rescuing souls from evil motherships and freeing them to rehab centers, blowing up bad spaceships, planting nuclear submarine land darts at National Monuments, and working with their chosen liaisons such as Wilcock and Drake be controversial?

And how can global alliances of 144 nations, working with the military here in the US, as well as keeping Drake, Fulford and Wilcock apprised as to "the plan" to arrest all of the evil nefarious psychopaths and restore freedom and self determination, including a global debt jubilee and the distribution of the collateral accounts, as well as implementing NESARA and reversing all environmental as well as nuclear harm to this planet, be controversial?

Just because a bunch of ET's got together with a couple of patriot freedom fighters in a global alliance to reverse millennium's of slavery and control, does not make it controversial.

[foreverfan]

Brand New...

Ok... Boy is this dead on to the conversation...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uci2PswSCJ8

[LarryC]

<< Ok... add to the conversation what David Icke has to say and wow... >>

Does he have anything to say on something related to this? I've watched many hours of David Icke in the past, but I haven't had a chance to watch this one yet. Too many long videos to watch lately .

Update: so far I've watched about 40 minutes of it. He's talking about the Archons -isn't everybody these days? Apparently they were referenced in ancient Gnostic texts and correspond to the Reptilians Icke is famous for talking about. I will watch the rest of it -I always like listening to him. I even saw him in person once, shortly after 9-11 where he thoroughly debunked the official story.

[9eagle9]

It is ALL controversial material.

What puzzles me is that people align themselves behind controversial material, and bang it around in public, plastering the universe with it, INSISTING that all and sundry must hear this, must hear that, must align themselves with it, don't resist it--and then cry fouls when it ....produces controversy.

So after they draw everyone's attention to the controversial material and it (gasp) generates controversy they are all clamoring that its so 'unloving' and so negative and people are rigid and skeptics and lions, and tigers and bears, oh my.

Controversy is then suddenly 'negative'. Of course for the adherents it doesn't seem controversial because the idea of it makes them feel good.
For people who haven't entered into any sort of discipline of the mind and pscyche in their pursuit of their spirit, this what fly paper is to flies.

(but flypaper smells good!....to flies)

For people who are examining the material from someplace outside of their bereft emotional centers it appears entirely different. It doesn't feel good or bad because....the emotional center isn't involved in it. It just is what it is ...implausible and irrational. It reeks of emotional manipulation that the easily emotionally manipulated can't detect because....their easily manipulated.

Not having this sort of self awareness they have no idea why they promote controversial subjects when they dislike any form of negativity or controversy.

Crazy making ****.

[gripreaper]

This is one of the first counterpoints I have seen written on this whole scenario. He covers it quite well.

http://thecritical-post.com/blog/2012/06/is-it-a-real-revolution-or-just-a-mass-delusion-david-wilcock-drake-bailey-ben-fulford-and-the-new-reality-of-internet-fantasy-tcpchicago/

[gripreaper]

How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?


I bet you used a synonym thesaurus!!
:kiss:


You a smart girl! Even I had to look up "peccant" to see what it means.

[gripreaper]

Now, if we can stand back from the canvas and suspend the scenario purported on this thread, for the first 54 minutes of this video, I think Dan Winter nails it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1SC0ceLHRU&feature=player_embedded

[SilentFeathers]

It is ALL controversial material.

What puzzles me is that people align themselves behind controversial material, and bang it around in public, plastering the universe with it, INSISTING that all and sundry must hear this, must hear that, must align themselves with it, don't resist it--and then cry fouls when it ....produces controversy.

So after they draw everyone's attention to the controversial material and it (gasp) generates controversy they are all clamoring that its so 'unloving' and so negative and people are rigid and skeptics and lions, and tigers and bears, oh my.

Controversy is then suddenly 'negative'. Of course for the adherents it doesn't seem controversial because the idea of it makes them feel good.
For people who haven't entered into any sort of discipline of the mind and pscyche in their pursuit of their spirit, this what fly paper is to flies.

(but flypaper smells good!....to flies)

For people who are examining the material from someplace outside of their bereft emotional centers it appears entirely different. It doesn't feel good or bad because....the emotional center isn't involved in it. It just is what it is ...implausible and irrational. It reeks of emotional manipulation that the easily emotionally manipulated can't detect because....their easily manipulated.

Not having this sort of self awareness they have no idea why they promote controversial subjects when they dislike any form of negativity or controversy.

Crazy making ****.

I find it really strange and bizarre many deny any thing in the bible is factual but will believe this Drake and alien scenario, when it basically is dovetailed into the bible story when it comes to the war in heaven between light and darkness (good and evil) with the good ones and the bad ones (angels/aliens), the savior story/scenario, the rapture like scenario, etc etc etc. Drake is now saying basically that those that will not repent (or surrender peacefully) will be snuffed out of the book of life, (there soul will be fried in the sun)....they will lose everlasting life, not his exact words, but pretty darn close.

That is why I said in my last post, it wouldn't surprise me if Drake pulls a quick one now and out does Cobra and claims the plan has been put on hold because humanity is not ready yet, and that he has been invited to visit the ship to speak with the aliens/gods....thus pull a Enoch type of maneuver (and God took him up).

That is why I have been following this so closely, not because I enjoy being sarcastic or believe in any of it, but I find it absolutely fascinating, I see so many things in it that remind me or shows me a new age type of religion or cult is being born. Not only this Drake thing is like this, but so are many other things such as the GFL etc.

I've also noticed that within this thread 911 is brought up.....that doesn't surprise me either as the same type of thing is happening here too when it comes to how people will believe and accept things without a shred of evidence. Many today still think Iraq knocked the towers down. Right after 911 we attacked Afgahnistan because we were told bin laden was hiding there and responsible for the attacks, then we were told Iraq was gonna do the same thing and had WMD's....yet almost all the hijackers were Saudis????? No mention of or bombs were dropped on Saudi Arabia though. Seems people will believe anything if it "excites" them in a certain way. 911 was a similar dog and pony show when it comes to reliable information and what is real and not real, what is true and not true and even until this day there is no real evidence to amount to a hill of beans that it was Bin Laden that was 100% responsible for the attack....or really had anything to do with it.

Nothing is as it seems and this Drake/Alien thing is the same thing in my opinion.

Flies on flypaper?????? Humanity has been stuck on the flypaper for centuries..... every time we get one foot loose from the fly paper and get a sense of being able to escape from it, we have to put the free foot back down on it to try to get the other foot free......it's like a never ending effort.

Added:

The soda ban in New York in a way is the same type of illogical thinking/reasoning resulting from a follow the leader mentality and falls in to a type of delusion or delusional way of thinking. IMO

Just because a boss or leader says soda is bad for you (which may be true) a ban on big gulp soda's are now in affect....but soda's are still on the market and a person can still buy 2 16oz sodas and pour them in a large cup to make a big gulp size soda and drink it????? makes no common sense in my opinion other than being a manipulation or some type of dupe mechanism to control people or play mind games with them.....this type of manipulating and delusional crap is escalating big time globally on almost every level.

[gripreaper]

I find it really strange and bizarre many deny any thing in the bible is factual but will believe this Drake and alien scenario, when it basically is dovetailed into the bible story when it comes to the war in heaven between light and darkness (good and evil) with the good ones and the bad ones (angels/aliens), the savior story/scenario, the rapture like scenario, etc etc etc. Drake is now saying basically that those that will not repent (or surrender peacefully) will be snuffed out of the book of life, (there soul will be fried in the sun)....they will lose everlasting life, not his exact words, but pretty darn close.

That is why I said in my last post, it wouldn't surprise me if Drake pulls a quick one now and out does Cobra and claims the plan has been put on hold because humanity is not ready yet, and that he has been invited to visit the ship to speak with the aliens/gods....thus pull a Enoch type of maneuver (and God took him up).

That is why I have been following this so closely, not because I enjoy being sarcastic or believe in any of it, but I find it absolutely fascinating, I see so many things in it that remind me or shows me a new age type of religion or cult is being born. Not only this Drake thing is like this, but so are many other things such as the GFL etc.

I've got a file full of notes that I plan on using to write a novel. This cultural, social and consciousness phenomenon surrounding this scenario is absolutely astounding to me and will make a best seller, I'm sure.:p

Did you listen to the first 54 minutes of the Dan Winter video I posted above? He absolutely nails it. Instead of looking at... These are the bad guys over here, and those are the good guys over there, we need to get the bad guys and get rid of them... Dan takes a higher view of the situation and absolutely nails it and clarifies it for me.

[Zencat]

This is one of the first counterpoints I have seen written on this whole scenario. He covers it quite well.

http://thecritical-post.com/blog/2012/06/is-it-a-real-revolution-or-just-a-mass-delusion-david-wilcock-drake-bailey-ben-fulford-and-the-new-reality-of-internet-fantasy-tcpchicago/

Grip, this is one heck of an article ... thank you! It's a great summary of the whole fiasco.

I hope everyone gets to read it.

[Kimberley]

*****************

I agree that the above article mentioned is worth the long read. I do not agree with a lot of it, however it is a great summery of what has been playing out. I personally was on the conference call with the writer of this article and Drake and others...so heard what went on first hand.

I know this brand new David Icke interview video has been posted in a couple of other places and I am going to post it here... I would so love every person on the planet to see/listen to this from David Icke....it is a fabulous message!

It was posted yesterday June 18 2012 and at the time of posting this it only has less than 500 views

Much love :grouphug:

David Icke Interview: Take it to the Heart | by Jo Conrad
uci2PswSCJ8

[PHARAOH]

Can we please shut down this thread? NOW!!! :confused:

[SilentFeathers]

I've got a file full of notes that I plan on using to write a novel. This cultural, social and consciousness phenomenon surrounding this scenario is absolutely astounding to me and will make a best seller, I'm sure.:p

Did you listen to the first 54 minutes of the Dan Winter video I posted above? He absolutely nails it. Instead of looking at... These are the bad guys over here, and those are the good guys over there, we need to get the bad guys and get rid of them... Dan takes a higher view of the situation and absolutely nails it and clarifies it for me.

Quite the interesting lecture, thanks for posting the video. I see find some of what he says aligning with some of the ancient Mayan jaguar priests myths and legends.....Dan clarified a couple of things for me to, some of what he said though I couldn't swallow, but for the most part, he surly had my attention!

He (Winter) also in some strange way validated for "me" that I could possibly be on to something pertaining to a few things I mentioned in the last couple of posts of mine.....we may really see Drake and Co take a really strange turn in there "program" real soon, as if last Sunday wasn't strange enough! Get ready to take more notes!) :)

Something very strange indeed is going on here.....I've sensed it from day one and thus why I have been watching this unfold so closely.

[Kimberley]

Can we please shut down this thread? NOW!!! :confused:

I love this thread!

If you do not like it Pharaoh why do you click on it?

Much love!

[foreverfan]

Can we please shut down this thread? NOW!!! :confused:

Watch the David Icke video will ya.... ;)


I watched it last night. As always, Icke's way out there but the first 30 minutes points to what we are talking about here.

[gripreaper]

Quite the interesting lecture, thanks for posting the video. I see find some of what he says aligning with some of the ancient Mayan jaguar priests myths and legends.....Dan clarified a couple of things for me to, some of what he said though I couldn't swallow, but for the most part, he surly had my attention!

He (Winter) also in some strange way validated for "me" that I could possibly be on to something pertaining to a few things I mentioned in the last couple of posts of mine.....we may really see Drake and Co take a really strange turn in there "program" real soon, as if last Sunday wasn't strange enough! Get ready to take more notes!) :)

Something very strange indeed is going on here.....I've sensed it from day one and thus why I have been watching this unfold so closely.

The Dragon Orion bloodline, which we have both aspects in us, has the deteriorated element, as referenced by what happened at Dulce, and is the element which is of such import in this thread. The vampirism of this element is so atrocious it is unconscionable for any empathic soul to grasp. What happened at Montauk has accelerated the process since the fabric of the space/time continuum was messed with, and this is what initially got the attention of the star families.

I’m still trying to understand the Cherokee connection of the bloodline here in the US, in light of the Elite gathering at Kimble Castle this weekend, also known as Cherokee Castle. The Archon thread here at Avalon has been very helpful and enlightening with regards to this part of our heritage.

Yet, the salient point is, we need to step up and experience the Kundalini firing of the Dijed in order to overcome the illusion of separation and fulfill the experiment. Within this state the Archon’s cannot vampire us and will just wither away.

It is also from this vantage point that a new paradigm has the potential to emerge, and without this context, all the plans of mice and men are doomed to fail.

I'm now taking applications for a Tantric partner to facilitate this. :p

[9eagle9]

But did you love it?


*****************

I agree that the above article mentioned is worth the long read. I do not agree with a lot of it, however it is a great summery of what has been playing out. I personally was on the conference call with the writer of this article and Drake and others...so heard what went on first hand.

I know this brand new David Icke interview video has been posted in a couple of other places and I am going to post it here... I would so love every person on the planet to see/listen to this from David Icke....it is a fabulous message!

It was posted yesterday June 18 2012 and at the time of posting this it only has less than 500 views

Much love :grouphug:

David Icke Interview: Take it to the Heart | by Jo Conrad
uci2PswSCJ8

[SilentFeathers]

I’m still trying to understand the Cherokee connection of the bloodline here in the US, in light of the Elite gathering at Kimble Castle this weekend, also known as Cherokee Castle. The Archon thread here at Avalon has been very helpful and enlightening with regards to this part of our heritage.



Some old Cherokee myths claim they are the descendants of the Mayans and they also have a strange connection with Pleiades...I'm part Cherokee and have for many years researched a bit into their history and myths etc. Quite interesting for sure.

Cherokee prophecies (interesting read)
http://www.crystalinks.com/cherokee.html

Origin of the Pleiades and the Pine
http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/OriginOfThePleiadesAndThePine-Cherokee.html

PS: make sure you screen your applicants before, well, you know! :)

Added:

Seems to me this Drake and or alien scenario(s) involves bits and pieces of every dogma known to man, ancient and modern, old age new age, I find it quite strange

[Fred Steeves]

I'm part Cherokee and have for many years researched a bit into their history and myths etc. Quite interesting for sure.


Huh, I have a wee bit meself. Small world.

[Sebastion]

It is a small world Fred as it looks like we are brothers with cherokee blood!






I'm part Cherokee and have for many years researched a bit into their history and myths etc. Quite interesting for sure.


Huh, I have a wee bit meself. Small world.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

This is one of the first counterpoints I have seen written on this whole scenario. He covers it quite well.

http://thecritical-post.com/blog/2012/06/is-it-a-real-revolution-or-just-a-mass-delusion-david-wilcock-drake-bailey-ben-fulford-and-the-new-reality-of-internet-fantasy-tcpchicago/


Whoever wrote that really needs to work on their grammar. Very interesting stuff though! Drake needs to provide some hard evidence if he expects us to take his claims seriously.

[foreverfan]

Drake sounds so convinced as to what he's saying. On thing is for sure, things sound like it's finally coming to a head.

http://www.heartcom.org/TeslaEnergy.jpg

[NancyV]

How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?


I bet you used a synonym thesaurus!!
:kiss:


You a smart girl! Even I had to look up "peccant" to see what it means.
Yep, that's the one word I looked up because I thought it was spelled with one "C". I guess I was hoping to catch you in a spelling mistake. LOL...

[promezeus]

[quote]How can negotiating with self centered, hedonistic, narcissistic, conceited, egoistic, murderous, perfunctory, cabalistic, oligarchical, heartless, fear mongering, torturous, genocidal, satanic, war mongering, evil, morally objectionable, immoral, perverse, iniquitous, peccant, rotten, depraved, perverted, sinful, vicious, wicked, deleterious, detrimental, harmful, hurtful, injurious, incorrigible, reprehensible, corrupt, savage, inhuman reprobate elite psychopathic controllers be controversial?


Did you forget shape-shifting reptile ?

[9eagle9]

I was more concerned that peccant was something I accidentally stuck in my BBQ sauce today.

[gripreaper]

I was more concerned that peccant was something I accidentally stuck in my BBQ sauce today.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/movethestars/Gifs/finn%20gifs/laughing.gif

[Dennis Leahy]

Can we please shut down this thread? NOW!!! :confused:
Ar you nuts? :~) With 48 hours to go? Shine the buckles on your dancing shoes!

Dennis

[NancyV]

Can we please shut down this thread? NOW!!! :confused:
Ar you nuts? :~) With 48 hours to go? Shine the buckles on your dancing shoes!

Dennis
I'm ready to dance!!

[SilentFeathers]

Drake giving updates tonight Wednesday June 20th, at 7pm EST

Here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network

Summer Solstice here in the states a few minutes after the show begins!

My forecast: Mass arrests and ET intervention delayed due to too many people not doing enough to help, there are too many people who would rather stay on there couch drinking beer and watching TV; baseball, dancing with the stars, sponge bob, etc.....new deadline; 12-21-2012 for us to get all of our eggs in one basket so to speak.

Until then, Drake will become Enoch like and "be taken up" to meet with the ET's and get all the new details of the "plan" modification and will return at an undisclosed date to inform us of what he has learned while being with ET.

Cobra will clearly become secondary to Drake in the "resistance" movement.

Followers who are ready to dance and celebrate will once again be "let down", yet will wait for 12-21-2012 to arrive with just as much anticipation as they had waiting for all the other dates to arrive that have passed by with nothing happening, very few will leave the movement.

PS: of course I am just making an educated "guess" through my own personal way of thinking, not being sarcastic or negative, but basing my forecast on whats transpire thus far to date and using "my" own common sense.... whatever that may be worth...

Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.

[Dennis Leahy]

...Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.It certainly appears to be so. "Cobra"/Balki too. Archons suddenly took on an air of authority in the resistance movement, for example. I'm surprised that the patrons from the "Pub At The End Of The Universe" and Ulli's "What's Happening Here And Now" aren't getting quoted as well.

I plan to make a major announcement on June 22nd, 2012. It will be a "must read" announcement. (But if you don't read it, you will not be sent to the Central Sun, you'll just be out of the loop.)

Dennis

[Avocadess]

June 20, 2012 -- REMINDER to do the following global meditation today, if you agree, at 2:11 p.m. Central Time:



1. Relax your body and mind. Focus for a few minutes on his breath.

2.Imagine an electric pole blue light emanating from the Central Sun of the Galaxy, which passes through your
body to the center of the Earth. Please keep the beam of light for several minutes.

3. Then imagine, as violet flame embraces the whole planet, filling every cell, every atom of our planet and all
of us, clearing of all negative emotions and thoughts, and from all evil. Visualize how people become free from
anxiety and fear, as they become open to each other, and fills their love and peace. Feel the love and the divine
unity of all peoples and the Earth and its nature.

4. Now, visualize, as in television and other media, a compromise has occurred. The mass media report the
existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the whole truth comes out.

5. Then visualize how it comes to official human contact with other civilizations. The event is broadcast by all
media. See that humanity welcomes guests with calm, confidence and love. See how people between the
newcomers and energy flows of love and brotherhood. Feel the love that now, and send it with the intention of
contacting the Family of the Star, which has already arrived here and waiting for the opportunity to communicate.

6. Now imagine your direct contact, as he looks, how you feel, what you ask, what are you doing? Stay with this
picture a few minutes.

The exact time of meditation, Wednesday June 20th at 23:11 BST (London time).
Here http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html can be converted for your time zone.

By soulowicz • Posted in extra-terrestrials, Meditations, Lightworkers

[foreverfan]

Eight Veils of Perception


Drake has shed 6 of 8 Veils of Perception.
A caller said on Sunday night's show that she was honored to be talking to Drake because he was a person that had shed 6 of the 8 Veils of Perception. I didn't know what she meant, so I choose to find out and share with our forum members. I thought this would be a good spot but it may need it's own thread.

How many Veils of Perception have you shed?
In order to understand and be open to what Drake and Cobra says, you have to have shed the 5th and 6th levels of Perception. Many of us here on this forum have shed the 4th level, but still have a hard time with both the 5th and 6th Perception levels. Either they exist or they don't.

u5daInlOFq4

[Bongo]

Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.

I'll take that 1 step further...

How do you know drake is not a member of avalon that posts regularly under a different name???

that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

[SilentFeathers]

Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.

I'll take that 1 step further...

How do you know drake is not a member of avalon that posts regularly under a different name???

that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

I personally doubt very much if he is a regular poster on this site.....too much is now known about him now and there are too many bright minds here, he surely would of been spotted by now in my opinion if he was posting all over the place.

[Fred Steeves]

June 20, 2012 -- REMINDER to do the following global meditation today, if you agree, at 2:11 p.m. Central Time:



1. Relax your body and mind. Focus for a few minutes on his breath.

2.Imagine an electric pole blue light emanating from the Central Sun of the Galaxy, which passes through your
body to the center of the Earth. Please keep the beam of light for several minutes.

3. Then imagine, as violet flame embraces the whole planet, filling every cell, every atom of our planet and all
of us, clearing of all negative emotions and thoughts, and from all evil. Visualize how people become free from
anxiety and fear, as they become open to each other, and fills their love and peace. Feel the love and the divine
unity of all peoples and the Earth and its nature.

4. Now, visualize, as in television and other media, a compromise has occurred. The mass media report the
existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the whole truth comes out.

5. Then visualize how it comes to official human contact with other civilizations. The event is broadcast by all
media. See that humanity welcomes guests with calm, confidence and love. See how people between the
newcomers and energy flows of love and brotherhood. Feel the love that now, and send it with the intention of
contacting the Family of the Star, which has already arrived here and waiting for the opportunity to communicate.

6. Now imagine your direct contact, as he looks, how you feel, what you ask, what are you doing? Stay with this
picture a few minutes.

The exact time of meditation, Wednesday June 20th at 23:11 BST (London time).
Here http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html can be converted for your time zone.

By soulowicz • Posted in extra-terrestrials, Meditations, Lightworkers

Ever curiouser and curiouser. Although I shant be tuning in to that highly recommended meditation program, I do certainly appreciate the ever expanding astrological, and numerological underpinnings.

Cheers,
Fred

[Bongo]

Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.

I'll take that 1 step further...

How do you know drake is not a member of avalon that posts regularly under a different name???

that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

I personally doubt very much if he is a regular poster on this site.....too much is now known about him now and there are too many bright minds here, he surely would of been spotted by now in my opinion if he was posting all over the place.

hmm I see your point, avalon does have some bright minds so maybe he's not. although the possibility can't be ruled out completely... maybe he's a cunning keyboard warrior... haha :p

[foreverfan]

Click Here: Drake Update is on NOW. 6/20/2012 6pm CST (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update)

Link also works for replay of show.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l01mu8PWIaY/T8vJFQKUf8I/AAAAAAAACa8/KJG7rfA3XnY/s1600/homer_eating_popcorn.jpg

[Billy]

Have a Blessed solstice everyone. May the light shine upon you and through you.

peace

[Ishtar]

If this is the sort of music Drake meditates to, it explains a lot. :shocked:

[promezeus]

Another educated "guess": Drake personally follows/reads this thread and others on Avalon.

I'll take that 1 step further...

How do you know drake is not a member of avalon that posts regularly under a different name???

that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

Let's get er done. :couch2:

[gripreaper]

Drake is on NOW. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update)

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/NicoleLaurence/Miscellaneous/tumblr_li895mWkyk1qdxiz8o1_250.gif

[Billy]

Drake is on NOW. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update)

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/NicoleLaurence/Miscellaneous/tumblr_li895mWkyk1qdxiz8o1_250.gif

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update

peace

[Chester]

Quite the interesting lecture, thanks for posting the video. I see find some of what he says aligning with some of the ancient Mayan jaguar priests myths and legends.....Dan clarified a couple of things for me to, some of what he said though I couldn't swallow, but for the most part, he surly had my attention!

He (Winter) also in some strange way validated for "me" that I could possibly be on to something pertaining to a few things I mentioned in the last couple of posts of mine.....we may really see Drake and Co take a really strange turn in there "program" real soon, as if last Sunday wasn't strange enough! Get ready to take more notes!) :)

Something very strange indeed is going on here.....I've sensed it from day one and thus why I have been watching this unfold so closely.

The Dragon Orion bloodline, which we have both aspects in us, has the deteriorated element, as referenced by what happened at Dulce, and is the element which is of such import in this thread. The vampirism of this element is so atrocious it is unconscionable for any empathic soul to grasp. What happened at Montauk has accelerated the process since the fabric of the space/time continuum was messed with, and this is what initially got the attention of the star families.

I’m still trying to understand the Cherokee connection of the bloodline here in the US, in light of the Elite gathering at Kimble Castle this weekend, also known as Cherokee Castle. The Archon thread here at Avalon has been very helpful and enlightening with regards to this part of our heritage.

Yet, the salient point is, we need to step up and experience the Kundalini firing of the Dijed in order to overcome the illusion of separation and fulfill the experiment. Within this state the Archon’s cannot vampire us and will just wither away.

It is also from this vantage point that a new paradigm has the potential to emerge, and without this context, all the plans of mice and men are doomed to fail.

I'm now taking applications for a Tantric partner to facilitate this. :p

It is my view you have precisely nailed what is perhaps the ONLY solution and a solution which, if we do not reach critical mass, the sun may react such that a geomagnetic storm will take care of us in a different way. Do not read any fear garbage in what I am saying. I am simply of the opinion that nature has her way of handling situations... that being one of them.

As an oddsmaker though, I make humanity a favorite to reach this critical mass and play our role in the avoidance of such a reaction from our sun.

I may be heading to Costa Rica soon, Gripreaper... I am certain if you visit me there, I would be able to intro you to many willing participants for assistance in awakening whatever is left to awaken of your own kundalini.
Your Friend,
justoneman

[Chester]

If folks really wanna get serious - they may want to take a look at this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=509109&viewfull=1#post509109

Insiders Report: Top 100 Illuminati Banksters Meeting for Satanic Child Sacrifice in Colorado on June 21st! (to occur between midnight and 4 AM on the 21st - within the next 8 or 9 hours)

[peace]

since drake is on now i'm going to guess at what he's going to say without listening:
1. we've already been saved
2. there will be no physical, tangible evidence
3. just trust him
4. don't worry about the previous date given i.e. tomorrow, there is a NEW date, a couple of months from now.


if i'm wrong, fine, it's just a guess based on how these things work out.

hate to see you all get duped like this.

i genuinely care about this community.

[foreverfan]

since drake is on now i'm going to guess at what he's going to say without listening:
1. we've already been saved
2. there will be no physical, tangible evidence
3. just trust him
4. don't worry about the previous date given i.e. tomorrow, there is a NEW date, a couple of months from now.


if i'm wrong, fine, it's just a guess based on how these things work out.

hate to see you all get duped like this.

i genuinely care about this community.

You're way off. He didn't say that... That was Lady Dragon.

[SilentFeathers]

I'm pretty certain Drake said by the 21st last Sunday.....????? now he says Cobra said that????

Perhaps I'm delusional and mistaken.....

..am I the only one who heard him say this last Sunday?

[Billy]

GMT here in Scotland, 2hrs ago the Solstice embraced us, Have a blessed Solstice everyone. May the light shine upon you and through you.

Peace

[Kimberley]

I'm pretty certain Drake said by the 21st last Sunday.....????? now he says Cobra said that????

Perhaps I'm delusional and mistaken.....

Yes it was Cobra that said that not Drake....

Hey here is the Lisa Harrison interview with Cobra fro yesterday. I have not heard it yet...
Ofw7Jepw7oA

[SilentFeathers]

I'm pretty certain Drake said by the 21st last Sunday.....????? now he says Cobra said that????

Perhaps I'm delusional and mistaken.....

Yes it was Cobra that said that not Drake....



Guess I heard wrong, could of swore Drake said that last Sunday....

...anyways, thanx for responding Kimberley

[Avocadess]

When I go to the Global Voice Radio Network page for Drake's show that is on now it says "ON AIR" but I don't HEAR anything....Can anyone give me the phone number to call and listen? Thanks!

This is where I have been trying to listen: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network

Oh, I just figured it out: click on the words ON AIR (Duh....!!!! [blush])

[SilentFeathers]

When I go to the Global Voice Radio Network page for Drake's show that is on now it says "ON AIR" but I don't HEAR anything....Can anyone give me the phone number to call and listen? Thanks!

This is where I have been trying to listen: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network

(646) 716-4984
not sure if this is to listen, it's on the radio webpage to talk to host?

...and it's "un-alien-able rights", not "un-lean-able rights"....but I'm getting to particular now :)

[Avocadess]

Wow. Drake is talking about approx. a MILLION people being arrested and put in FEMA camps.

Minute Man got on and talked about how we need to learn our unalienable rights (like those in the Bill of Rights). There is a mechanism in the Bill of Rights for us to defend ourselves, he said, and he said the "militia" is not to be feared and is to be picked up. The militia is a right to protect ourselves and our communities from enemies, weather -- and the Cabal.

MM said the militia will be used mostly to guard our infrastructure as the arrests are happening. He said there also may be some marauding as militia to rob people of their survival stashes. He also reminds people not to do things out of hate; "hate is something that kind of needs to go away, folks" -- and Cabal has been working to get us to use hate more than love. "If we are going to be free, we have to do our part; we cannot be afraid."

"The militia is the arm of the People to defend their rights," said Minute Man. "Does that mean we are violent? No," he said. Minute Man talked about how important LOVE is as the motivation. He said people with love and light and common sense are the kind of people we need to join the militia.

Drake added that most of the people in the U.S. love our country; that irrespective of the problems, it's probably one of the greatest nation's -- in potential -- ever conceived. "If they see us able to do it, then they know they can be free as well. It's not just us. I don't want to limit this." [Right on...!]

Drake talked about the meaning of the word "militia" and its tasks. He said that community militia is sorely lacking (except "up in the hills," etc.).

"The difference between civil and unalienable rights" explains Drake is that "civil" is given to us by governments. "If the First Amendment doesn't work, use the second one," said Drake.

[9eagle9]

Practicing my rights, I loaded my 12 gauge and leveled it at this thread . Self defense of course because the other choice was vomiting in my lap.

Not out of hate of course.

Out of LOVE.

Now don't get hurt, I was practicing my unalienable rights.

God loves you, he's going to send you to hell.

[Avocadess]

Just missed a few minutes of the show while I added someone to my "ignore" list...!

Minute Man said, "America can't just be the only free country in the world" and talked about how important it is for the whole world to be freed.

Just before the break Drake talked about how our standard of living has been less and less since the time of our grandparents -- and that this action (mass arrests, etc.) is the only thing that will STOP that spiral downward and take us back UP. (my words, not his -- paraphrasing wildly here)

Now the song "I'm Free" (the Who) is being played during the break....and now, not sure but I think it MIGHT be "Cry for Freedom" by White Lion.

Drake said that 99% of what he has to say "comes from outside sources." He was asked to do the shows because they like the manner in which he talks, etc. After a few shows there was an enormous response because EVERYBODY IS HUNGRY FOR FREEDOM.

Then Drake began giving a review of his experiences and those of others and the sort of history of how a lot of this came to happen. After the interview with David Wilcock and things exploded, Drake said that he did more checking up on things. He talked about being asked to address the troops (which he did), and he was also asked to address the people and calm them down.

Drake talked about how the militia needs to be absolutely ready but to stand down. Just watching and being AWARE.

Today Drake got an answer from a man in the Pentagon. This man said, "You are going to start seeing some really strange things." Drake mentioned Cobra who is "saying the same thing."

Somebody who was going to "out" Drake came back to him with "hat in hand" and apologized. Drake said, "I'm not saying people should defend me [or] defend what I say. Not at all." He just wants people to spread this.

[LarryC]

<< Wow. Drake is talking about approx. a MILLION people being arrested and put in FEMA camps. >>

Is he mentioning any dates? I wasn't able to tune into this one.

[Alie]

Here is the 2nd Cobra Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofw7Jepw7oA

[Avocadess]

LarryC, I missed the very beginning of the show -- but it sounds very soon indeed...!!

Someone called in who told about his calls to the Pentagon and the White House as well as the Library of Congress and Supreme Court Information Office -- and a couple Senators. Calls were about Holder and also NESARA. He was advised to make a Freedom of Information Request to the Clinton Library regarding NESARA, and he did that.

Same caller addressed alienable versus inalienable rights and unalienable rights. (I'm going to have to listen to this again to get it straight, sorry, haha!) He also said that we, he feels, have an obligation to make sure the Cabal members are safe -- and said that we cannot ensure their safety unless they DO surrender. This is a safety issue he feels needs to be addressed.

Again the same caller -- talked about the bar. (He's a member of the Bar and said it doesn't mean anything about Britain to his knowledge and feels that many attorneys are good-meaning people.)

Drake said that the Cabal "personnel" will be escorted if they surrender and their families' safety will be seen to if they surrender (and their kids could be in something he described that sounds like a witness protection program style idea).

Drake talked about the problem with the "Bar" and how Maritime Law is in charge pretty much right now and how it will be changed (on land) to Common Law.

Regarding NESARA -- the White House is saying it doesn't exist, says Drake, who went on to talk about monumental fraud of IRS and many other factions -- and for this reason there was a GAG ORDER put on NESARA. "There are copies of the original NESARA in the hands of some of the trusted military....and this thing will be out in the open whether anybody likes it or not."

"We will not stoop to their level and simply executive everybody....and those who are found to be NOT guilty will be let go."

"Don't go after people's families. Don't go after relatives of these people," because in many cases they are not involved.

I THINK DRAKE JUST SAID HE IS OFFERING SURRENDER FOR TOMORROW (Thursday, June 21st).

Drake talked about how some provisions can be made. Everything submitted is "amendable" according to what people really want to do. "First we have got to restructure our government," and then we are going to have "24/7 voting."

Drake talked about setting up a program to help veterans -- who have not been helped from PTSD to other things.

"People who are hungry will eat....People who have been under-utilized, we indeed to put them to work...."

"The oceans have been a dumping ground for years" and a lot of jobs we can look forward to that will help clean up Mother Earth.

Another called asked, "When the military mobilizes in the next couple of weeks, will there be similar arrests in Canada?" Drake said Canada is a little bit different, but basically yes, the procedure is basically the same.

Caller asked about rights and freeing all of humanity from the Cabal and not just any one country and said, "Why don't we write a global constitution?" etc. The caller would rather be known as "citizen of the Earth" rather than of a certain country.

Drake said that the Cabal wants a "world government" and the difference is that some people want sovereignty in different countries. He also talked about the Golden Rule and said that something that is going to happen is that something similar to what the United Nations was supposed to be will happen -- for negotiations and working out differences rather than being used as it has been used. "Whatever the reality will be has to be an AGREED reality" is the main answer Drake gave here.

A lady asked about the first and second sweeps in the mass arrests. She wants to know about the CEOs of some of these awful corporations. Are many of them on the list? CEOs of Monsanto, DuPont, GE, etc. "How will these people be handled?....Have they been looked at?"

Drake said, "Exactly. Now you see how far this goes." (He said more than that....)

[gripreaper]

I have to address the caller attorney who was defending attorneys and deflecting the use of the term BAR association. Let's look at the statistics on the recent foreclosure debacle we've been facing since 2008, about 4 years. NOT ONE BANKER has been indicted. The bankers got TRILLIONS in taxpayer funds which have not made it into the economy to help people. Over 95% OF ALL CASES the homeowners lose.

The truth is, the record of attorneys actually getting justice for the average person is ATROCIOUS, because their first responsibility is to the court, and THEN to the client, who has given up their sovereignty, rendered MUTE once an attorney is hired. The system is not designed for justice, but is designed to make sure funds flow upstream to the primary creditor, the BANKS, and from the debtor ALL OF US. We are nothing more than debtors and there is no justice.

Sorry Mr. attorney. You can't pull the wool over our eyes here at Avalon. It’s that simple.

We need to spread this like free beer

[SilentFeathers]

I have to address the caller attorney who was defending attorneys and deflecting the use of the term BAR association. Let's look at the statistics on the recent foreclosure debacle we've been facing since 2008, about 4 years. NOT ONE BANKER has been indicted. The bankers got TRILLIONS in taxpayer funds which have not made it into the economy to help people. Over 95% OF ALL CASES the homeowners lose.

The truth is, the record of attorneys actually getting justice for the average person is ATROCIOUS, because their first responsibility is to the court, and THEN to the client, who has given up their sovereignty, rendered MUTE once an attorney is hired. The system is not designed for justice, but is designed to make sure funds flow upstream to the primary creditor, the BANKS, and from the debtor ALL OF US. We are nothing more than debtors and there is no justice.

Sorry Mr. attorney. You can't pull the wool over our eyes here at Avalon. It’s that simple.

We need to spread this like free beer

The first right you lose when you hire an attorney is your right to speak.

[we-R-one]

I have to address the caller attorney who was defending attorneys and deflecting the use of the term BAR association. Let's look at the statistics on the recent foreclosure debacle we've been facing since 2008, about 4 years. NOT ONE BANKER has been indicted. The bankers got TRILLIONS in taxpayer funds which have not made it into the economy to help people. Over 95% OF ALL CASES the homeowners lose.

The truth is, the record of attorneys actually getting justice for the average person is ATROCIOUS, because their first responsibility is to the court, and THEN to the client, who has given up their sovereignty, rendered MUTE once an attorney is hired. The system is not designed for justice, but is designed to make sure funds flow upstream to the primary creditor, the BANKS, and from the debtor ALL OF US. We are nothing more than debtors and there is no justice.

Sorry Mr. attorney. You can't pull the wool over our eyes here at Avalon. It’s that simple.

We need to spread this like free beer

No joke I was thinking the same thing! That guy didn't sound like he knew anything about being an attorney. We really should start a thread explaining to people that they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation, legally and how that was set up so they understand why we're in the current situation.

[Avocadess]

Drake believes and hopes a drastic change is coming rapidly.

Kimberley is doing a "test" at the end of this show (which is in less than a minute) and see how much they can add to the show that we cannot hear now but which will be in the archive that will be available very shortly.

646 716 4984 -- IF YOU WANT TO CALL IN YOU CAN CALL NOW AND ASK QUESTIONS. ("Now" meaning probably from about 9:00 p.m. Central Time to perhaps 9:15 or even 9:30 p.m. Central Time today, Wednesday, June 20th.)

KIMBERLEY: GREAT SHOW~! Thanks for playing some of those freedom songs!! =)

This is one I discovered when I was looking up some freedom songs (and it was probably played on the show before I managed to join in listening the show this evening) which is so EXCELLENT (lyrics, quality, etc.):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rou_8F9o-zk&feature=player_embedded#!

[SilentFeathers]

No joke I was thinking the same thing! That guy didn't sound like he knew anything about being an attorney. We really should start a thread explaining to people that they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation, legally and how that was set up so they understand why we're in the current situation.

Jurisdiction and or all laws/rules of law etc actually goes back to the Vatican depending on which angle you look at it and how you look at much of the language in all laws.legal rules...etc. It's quite deep and an extensive research/study

[D-Day]

Just missed a few minutes of the show while I added someone to my "ignore" list...!

Give it another couple of days, you'll probably end up having to put the entire forum membership on your ignore list.

[gripreaper]

No joke I was thinking the same thing! That guy didn't sound like he knew anything about being an attorney. We really should start a thread explaining to people that they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation, legally and how that was set up so they understand why we're in the current situation.

Jurisdiction and or all laws/rules of law etc actually goes back to the Vatican depending on which angle you look at it and how you look at much of the language in all laws.legal rules...etc. It's quite deep and an extensive research/study

It just really pissed me off though. The "bar" is just the fence at the front of the courtroom, yea, bull****. Of course that is also known as the bar, and once you cross it you are screwed. We're all underwater in Admiralty, presumed dead, lost at sea, and unable to speak. The certificate of manifest is handed to the harbormaster tribunal, and the goods are surrendered to the king.

End of story. The rest of this crap about justice is the biggest load of BS ever sold to us.

[we-R-one]

Here's what you should know about an attorney.....now interestingly enough I posted this same link on another thread and now it doesn't work....hmmm, why is that??? Well lucky for you I have a full copy of what that link says. I'm going to post here, but please know that it came from this link below which may or may not work. I'm sure it was not appreciated that I posted such a thing on a forum with this type of viewing volume. I do not condone any violence towards attorney's and though when you read and understand this most likely it will tick you off, but you need to know and I ask that you refrain your anger. I find it hard to believe that attorney's aren't aware of this, could they really be that stupid? I don't think so! I know this is long and a little rough on the eyes, sure wish the link worked as it would be easier to read from it's original website. This explains why some of us feel that the attorney who called on Drake's show is full of it!

http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/hiding_behind_bar.html

Here's the thread where I originally posted. You might find my comments of interest, it's post #19
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45673-Military-Suicide-What-Can-We-Do&p=497989#post497989


Hiding Behind The BAR
Why Attorneys Are Not Lawyers
by Joe Blow

In the U.S., they're collectively called everything from "attorney" to "lawyer" to "counselor." Are these terms truly equivalent, or has the identity of one been mistaken for another?
What exactly is a "Licensed BAR Attorney?" A credential accompanies every legal paper produced by attorneys - along with a State BAR Certification number. The credential is issued by the boards of law examiners, the applicant having acquired a minimum competency in law. In most cases, the board is an independent, self-financing, separately incorporated group of law professionals, administered by the state bar association, a branch of the American Bar Association, functioning in an advisory capacity to the supreme court of each of the states. Simply stated, they are an advisory board of recommendation to the court. The accreditation number is issued by the state bar association, a professional dues paying union.
As we are about to show you, an ‘attorney’ is not a ‘lawyer,’ yet the average American improperly interchanges these words as if they represent the same occupation, and the average American attorney unduly accepts the honor to be called "lawyer" when he is not.
In order to discern the difference, and where we stand within the current court system, it’s necessary to examine the British origins of our U.S. courts and the terminology that has been established from the beginning. It's important to understand the proper lawful definitions for the various titles we now give these court related occupations.
The legal profession in the U.S. is directly derived from the British system. Even the word "bar" is of British origin:
BAR -- A particular portion of a court room. Named from the space enclosed by two bars or rails, one of which separated the judge's bench from the rest of the room; the other shut off both the bench and the area for lawyers engaged in trials from the space allotted to suitors, witnesses, and others. Such persons as appeared as speakers (advocates, or counsel) before the court, were said to be "called to the bar", that is, privileged so to appear, speak and otherwise serve in the presence of the judges as "barristers." The corresponding phrase in the United States is "admitted to the bar". - A Dictionary of Law (1893).
From the definition of ‘BAR,’ the title and occupation of a "barrister" is derived:
BARRISTER -- English law. A counselor admitted to plead at the bar. 2. Ouster barrister, is one who pleads ouster or without the bar. 3. Inner barrister, a sergeant or king's counsel who pleads within the bar. 4. Vacation barrister, a counselor newly called to the bar, who is to attend for several long vacations the exercise of the house. 5. Barristers are called apprentices, apprentitii ad legem, being looked upon as learners, and not qualified until they obtain the degree of sergeant. -- Edmund Plowden, the author of the Commentaries, a volume of elaborate reports in the reigns of Edward VI., Mary, Philip and Mary, and Elizabeth, describes himself as an apprentice of the common law. -- A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier (Revised Sixth Edition, 1856).
BARRISTER, n. [from BAR.] A counselor, learned in the laws, qualified and admitted to pleas at the bar, and to take upon him the defense of clients; answering to the advocate or licentiate of other countries. Anciently, barristers were called, in England, apprentices of the law. Outer barristers are pleaders without the bar, to distinguish them from inner barristers, benchers or readers, who have been sometime admitted to pleas within the bar, as the king's counsel are. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
Overall, a barrister is one who has the privilege to plead at the courtroom bar separating the judicial from the non-judicial spectators. Currently, in U.S. courts, the inner bar between the bench (judge) and the outer bar no longer exists, and the outer bar separates the attorneys (not lawyers) from the spectator's gallery. This will be explained more as you read further. As with the word ‘BAR,’ each commonly used word describing the various court officers is derived directly from root words:
1). From the word "solicit" is derived the name and occupation of a ‘solicitor’; one who solicits or petitions an action in a court.
SOLICIT, v.t. [Latin - solicito] 1. To ask with some degree of earnestness; to make petition to; to apply to for obtaining something. This word implies earnestness in seeking ... 2. To ask for with some degree of earnestness; to seek by petition; as, to solicit an office; to solicit a favor. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
2). From the word "attorn" is derived the name and occupation of an ‘attorney;’ one who transfers or assigns property, rights, title and allegiance to the owner of the land.
ATTORN v. ME. [Origin French. atorner, aturner >assign, appoint, f. a-torner turn v.] 1. v.t.Turn; change, transform; deck out. 2. v.tTurn over (goods, service, allegiance, etc.) to another; transfer, assign. 3. >v.i. Transfer one’s tenancy, or (arch.) homage or allegiance, to another; formally acknowledge such transfer. attorn tenant (to) Law formally transfer one’s tenancy to), make legal acknowledgement of tenancy ( to a new landlord) -- Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
ATTORN, v.i. [Latin ad and torno.] In the feudal law, to turn, or transfer homage and service from one lord to another. This is the act of feudatories, vassels or tenants, upon the alienation of the estate. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
ATTORNMENT, n. The act of a feudatory, vassal or tenant, by which he consents, upon the alienation of an estate, to receive a new lord or superior, and transfers to him his homage and service. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
ATTORNMENT n. the transference of bailor status, tenancy, or (arch.) allegiance, service, etc., to another; formal acknowledgement of such transfer: lme. -- Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
3). From the word advocate comes the meaning of the occupation by the same name; one who pleads or defends by argument in a court.
ADVOCATE v.t. [Latin advocatus, from advoco, to call for, to plead for; of ad and voco, to call. See Vocal.] To plead in favor of; to defend by argument, before a tribunal; to support or vindicate. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
4). From the word "counsel" is derived the name and occupation of a ‘counselor’ or ‘lawyer’; one who is learned in the law to give advice in a court of law;
COUNSEL, v.t. [Latin. to consult; to ask, to assail.] 1. To give advice or deliberate opinion to another for the government of his conduct; to advise. - Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
LAWYER. A counselor; one learned in the law. -- A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier (Revised Sixth Edition, 1856).
Although modern usage tends to group all these descriptive occupational words as the same, the fact is that they have different and distinctive meanings when used within the context of court activities:
Solicitor -- one who petitions (initiates) for another in a court
Counselor -- one who advises another concerning a court matter
Lawyer -- [see counselor] learned in the law to advise in a court
Barrister -- one who is privileged to plead at the bar
Advocate -- one who pleads within the bar for a defendant
Attorney -- one who transfers or assigns, within the bar, another's rights and property acting on behalf of the ruling crown (government)
It's very clear that an attorney is not a lawyer. The lawyer is a learned counselor who advises. The ruling government appoints an attorney as one who transfers a tenant's rights, allegiance, and title to the land owner (government).
Feudal Tenancy
If you think you are a landowner in America, take a close look at the warranty deed or fee title to your land. You will almost always find the words "tenant" or "tenancy." The title or deed document establishing your right as a tenant, not that of a landowner, has been prepared for transfer by a licensed BAR Attorney, just as it was carried out within the original English feudal system we presumed we had escaped from in 1776.
A human being is the tenant to a feudal superior. A feudal tenant is a legal person who pays rent or services of some sort for the use and occupation of another's land. The land has been conveyed to the tenant's use, but the actual ownership remains with the superior. If a common person does not own what he thought was his land (he's legally defined as a "feudal tenant", not the superior owner), then a superior person owns the land and the feudal tenant - person pays him to occupy the land.
This is the hidden Feudal Law in America. When a person (a.k.a. human being, corporation, natural person, partnership, association, organization, etc.) pays taxes to the tax assessor of the civil county or city government (also a person), it is a payment to the superior land owner for the right to be a tenant and to occupy the land belonging to the superior. If this were not so, then how could a local government sell the house and land of a person for not rendering his services (taxes)?
We used to think that there was no possible way feudal law could be exercised in America, but the facts have proven otherwise. It's no wonder they hid the definition of a human being behind the definition of a man. The next time you enter into an agreement or contract with another person (legal entity), look for the keywords person, individual, and natural person describing who you are.
Are you the entity the other person claims you are? When you "appear" before their jurisdiction and courts, you have agreed that you are a legal person unless you show them otherwise. You will have to deny that you are the person and state who you really are. Is the flesh and blood standing there in that courtroom a person by their legal definition?
See PERSON for your role in the BAR Attorney system as a Feudal Tenant.
British Accredited Registry (BAR)?
During the middle 1600's, the Crown of England established a formal registry in London where barristers were ordered by the Crown to be accredited. The establishment of this first International Bar Association allowed barrister-lawyers from all nations to be formally recognized and accredited by the only recognized accreditation society. From this, the acronym BAR was established denoting (informally) the British Accredited Registry, whose members became a powerful and integral force within the International Bar Association (IBA). Although this has been denied repeatedly as to its existence, the acronym BAR stood for the British barrister-lawyers who were members of the larger IBA.
When America was still a chartered group of British colonies under patent - established in what was formally named the British Crown Territory of New England - the first British Accredited Registry (BAR) was established in Boston during 1761 to attempt to allow only accredited barrister-lawyers access to the British courts of New England. This was the first attempt to control who could represent defendants in the court at or within the bar in America.
Today, each corporate STATE in America has it's own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law - lawyers - to do so. They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?
Here's where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney - one who transfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.
Another name game they use is "of counsel," which means absolutely nothing more than an offer of advice. Surely, the mechanic down the street can do that! Advice is one thing; lawful representation is another.
A BAR licensed Attorney is not an advocate, so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is? He can't plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can't represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant. His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to transfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to transfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court. A more appropriate phrase would be legal plunder. See "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, 1850.
The official duties of an Esquire
Let's not forget that all U.S. BAR Attorneys have entitled themselves, as adirect result of their official BAR license and oaths, with the British title of "esquire. This word is a derivative of the British word "squire."
SQUIRE, n. [a popular contraction of esquire] 1. In Great Britain, the title of a gentleman next in rank to a knight. 2. In Great Britain, an attendant on a noble warrior. 3. An attendant at court. 4. In the United States, the title of magistrates and lawyers. In New-England, it is particularly given to justices of the peace and judges. - Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
ESQUIRE n. Earlier as squire n. 1 lme. [Origin French. esquier (mod. écuyer) f. Latin scutarius shield-bearer, f. scutum shield: see - ary 1.] 1. Orig. (now Hist.), a young nobleman who, in training for knighthood, acted as shield-bearer and attendant to a knight. Later, a man belonging to the higher order of English gentry, ranking next below a knight. lme. b. Hist. Any of various officers in the service of a king or nobleman. c. A landed proprietor, a country squire. arch. - Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
During the English feudal laws of land ownership and tenancy, a squire - esquire- was established as the land proprietor charged with the duty of carrying out, among various other duties, the act of attornment [see definition above] for the land owner and nobleman he served. Could this be any simpler for the average American to understand? If our current U.S. BAR Attorneys were just lawyers, solicitors, barristers, advocates or counselors, then they would call themselves the same. They have named themselves just exactly what they are, yet we blindly cannot see the writing on the wall.
The BAR Attorneys have not hidden this from anyone. That's why they deliberately call themselves "Esquires" and "Attorneys at law ." It is the American people who have hidden their own heads in the sand.
Knowing these simple truths, why would anyone consider the services of BAR Attorney-Esquire as his representative within the ruling courts of America? Their purposes, position, occupation, job, and duty is to transfer your allegiance, property, and rights to the landowner, a.k.a. STATE. [See Our Enemy, The State by Albert J. Nock, 1935, His Classic Critique Distinguishing 'Government' from the 'State']
They are sworn oath officers of the State whose sole authority is to transfer your property to their landowner-employer. Think about this the next time you enter their courtrooms. From now on, all Americans should refuse to enter past the outer bar when they are called. Who would voluntarily want to relinquish all he has by passing into their legal trap that exists inside that outer bar?
We must all refuse to recognize their royal position as Squires and refuse to hire them as our representatives and agents. They can't plead or argue for you anyway; all they can do is oversee the act of attornment on behalf of the ruling government whom they serve as official officers. Nothing stops your neighbor from being a barrister or lawyer. No real law prohibits any of us from being lawyers! Even Abraham Lincoln was a well-recognized lawyer, yet he had no formal law degree. Let the BAR Attorneys continue in their jobs as property transfer agent-officers for the State, but if no defendant hires them, they'll have to get new jobs or they'll starve. Fire your BAR Attorney and represent yourself as your own lawyer, or hire any non-BAR-licensed lawyer to assist you from outside the courtroom bar.
Refuse to acknowledge all judges who are also licensed BAR Attorneys. Every judge in Florida State is a member of the Florida BAR. This is unlawful and unconstitutional as a judge cannot be an Esquire nor can he represent any issue in commerce, such as that of the State. Every Florida State judge has compromised his purported neutral and impartial judicial position by being a State Officer through his BAR licensure. This is an unlawful monopoly of power and commerce.
The Unauthorized Practice of Law
Fire your BAR Attorney. Refuse to acknowledge their corrupt inner-bar courts of thievery. Formally charge them with the illegal act of practicing law without lawful authority. Why? A BAR Attorney is not a lawyer by lawful definition. An Esquire is an officer of the State with the duty to carry out State activities, including "attornment."
State officers have no constitutional authority to practice law as lawyers, barristers, advocates, or solicitors. Americans should begin formally charging these false lawyers with unlawfully practicing the profession of law since their BAR union licenses only give them the privilege to be Attorneys and Squires over asset transfers.
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[Creative Lorraine]

Have you all listened to the Lisa Harrison interview on
thread 97 ? Why do I feel it's Lady dragon Being
Cobra anybody feel that ?just certain phasing of words
I don't know just feel that and i do work with people
with that accent Oh well just had to mention that .I have
been listening and keeping up hahah

Lorraine

[Avocadess]

ARCHIVE of Drake's show from Wednesday, June 20th (and it's a blockbuster...!):


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update

[StarDust]

Have you all listened to the Lisa Harrison interview on
thread 97 ? Why do I feel it's Lady dragon Being
Cobra anybody feel that ?just certain phasing of words
I don't know just feel that and i do work with people
with that accent Oh well just had to mention that .I have
been listening and keeping up hahah

Lorraine

Unless Lady Dragon is using her 'on air' personality in a very contrived way, I don't think there is any connection between Lady Dragon and COBRA. COBRA sounds Scandinavian, IMO; and there are very few aspects of their language construction, vocabulary, etc. that mesh between the two. Not to mention that the rhythm of Lady Dragon's speech is on hyper active mode vs. COBRA.

If there is any relationship between the two beings, I certainly don't see/hear it.

[StarDust]

ARCHIVE of Drake's show from Wednesday, June 20th (and it's a blockbuster...!):


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-voice-2012-radio-network/2012/06/20/drakes-mid-week-update

One thing I do prefer is the use of "We Are The World" vs. that god awful song that Wolf Spirit Radio used to use to intro the Drake Update show. I was going to claw out my eardrums if I had to listen to that song one more time;)

[gripreaper]

Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/arrest-cabal-6-21-2012

If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!

If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!

Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?

http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q514/Hysmofyteligok/Gifs%20and%20sparkly%20stuff/21ozej7.gif

[StarDust]

Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/arrest-cabal-6-21-2012

Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?

This aspect of that message seems to be consistent with what COBRA is reporting:


If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!

[crosby]

we-R-one, that is a great capitulation of definition. however, by constant standards, once admitted to the bar, John Doe, Esquire, can be all of those things. It is dependent upon what and whom he is representing at any given time. And, John Doe, Esquire, can be several of those at any one time. For example, anyone who has graduated from law school and passed the bar exam is considered a lawyer for the State in which he has taken the bar exam. He may at any given time be a solicitor, counsel, and attorney for any number of clients at any given time. I was married to one for many years and the terms are interchangeable.
regards, corson

[SilentFeathers]

Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/arrest-cabal-6-21-2012

Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?

This aspect of that message seems to be consistent with what COBRA is reporting:


If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!


If "Michael" and "Cobra" are saying one thing pertaining to dates (June 21), the plan, etc., and considering that they are in DIRECT CONTACT with the ET's, and "Drake" is not in direct contact, hence: Drake says "I didn't say June 21st, and I don't know the day"....wouldn't it be logical to assume Drake is pretty much uninformed compared to Michael and Cobra? Wouldn't common sense say that it would be more logical to listen to Michael and Cobra concerning gathering reliable information? That is if any of this is true or if you want to just follow this or "play along"?

Drake even admits that he is just a messenger and all the information he gets is from someone else, yet Michael and Cobra say they get theirs directly from the ET's, those that have the ultimate power or that can "take care of business" if we don't.

Now Drake is saying within a few days, less than two weeks, or basically when ever.....Michael and Cobra are saying today, June 21st, "surrender or else"....hmmm? actually the 20th and action will be taken on the 21st if there is no surrender.??????

Personally I feel there really is no reason to listen to Drake anymore until we see him on Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc etc etc., because he himself even says he doesn't know much and when he gets the "Greenlight" (and knows things) that he will then be on TV to talk.....that we (I) should be listening the Michael and Cobra instead due to the fact that they are on the red telephone so to speak directly connected to ET, the ones who know all things....

But today is the 21st and there may not be time or reason for me to leave this thread and move on over to the Cobra thread for more "reliable" information and updates.....today may be "game over" day according to Cobra and Michael, hmmmm? what to do?

[Ishtar]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

[SilentFeathers]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

It's still early in the AM where they are at in Mexico, the ET's may be waiting for all the main players to return from the brothels and all get in to one place again....

[Ishtar]

Of course, SF!

Oh me of little faith!

:flypig:

[SilentFeathers]

Of course, SF! :flypig:Oh me of little faith!

patience my dear Watson.....these things take time and must be coordinated correctly, all the main players will be in the same building within the next couple of hours.

Extraction and evaporation will happen "soon"

[9eagle9]

I think the adherents to all this should have faith, and KNOW the ET's are standing by and just march on Wall Street, and Washington and start arresting the cabal.

I mean the ET's would be on your side right? Because this is all very real and true wouldn't the ET's appreciate a little commitment , a little action, a little initiative....just trot out down to the local adult book store, get yourself some handcuffs and have at it. Don't worry about someone shooting at you, David Wilcocks said months ago that all guns wouldn't fire.

I mean its EASY when one's commitment is to listening to radio shows and interviews and gabbing about it on internet forums, but initializing the arrests of the cabal would show some true determination.

God....I mean ET's are on your side.


Go on now, go be the heroes that the ET's intend for you to be.

[SilentFeathers]

From Michael the PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan 6-20-2012

"If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!

Furthermore it is decreed that on June 21, 2012 the darkness both physical and non-physical that has controlled this planet and it's people meets its final demise!
Now true justice is executed!"
http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/arrest-cabal-6-21-2012

Note: If nothing happens today, I am going to consider all this stuff horse hockey (which I mostly already do) and won't expect any free beer anytime soon....

Added:

I am quickly coming to the conclusion that I should be focusing more on my own fantasies, delusions, illusions, imagination, etc., rather than on someone else's....

[peace]

does this mean that once midnight strikes we can all move on?

because this is laughable at this point.

nothing.
has.
happened
nothing.
will.
happen.

[SilentFeathers]

does this mean that once midnight strikes we can all move on?

because this is laughable at this point.

nothing.
has.
happened
nothing.
will.
happen.

I'm personally moving on from this at midnight, sheesh, I can not remember the last time I have been this distracted and drawn to such nonsense, it's almost like mass hypnosis or some type of sorcery....in my opinion

I mean no offense to those who feel differently than I do about all of this.

At 12:01 am on June 22nd, 2012, I am done with this. (I'm sure a few here will be glad to see me exit this thread) :)

Beginning on June 22nd, 2012, I am going to focus on something more real to me and a plan that is more closer to home, which is; MY LIFE here on Earth....

[RMorgan]

Hahahaha! This is unbelievable!

Now there´s this guy, "Michael the PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan"???

Hilarious, at least. Honestly.

Raf.

[Chester]

My latest take on "the plan"

If there is "a plan" which contains the elements as reported by Drake in last night's show, specifically the element that pertains to "what happens to those who are arrested and tried and convicted" in that a single one of "them" could be executed then the plan is completely, totally and entirely the worst possible thing that could happen on earth at this time.

The problem on earth is a human / non huamn dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

Avocadess - I recall you have posted more than once your disgust at this particular component of "the plan." Look in the mirror and ask yourself, can you condone this? Do you believe in your heart that although most of the intended results of this plan seem to be good for humanity, that then it must be ok to allow executions?

I am not you but to me that is nothing but chicken %^$# BS. There will be ZERO positive results in a plan that could result in the execution of a single human being no matter how significant has been their participation in creating the current state of our planetary experience.

Not only count me out, but if I have to chose a side, I am with the bad guys and I will fight for them if I have to.

Utterly ridiculous this whole plan garbage is...

Anyone ever see the movie, the Andromeda Strain? Remember that the facility had a self destruct mode via a nuclear device which would automatically trigger if an out break occurred? Remember how the scientist figured out at the last moment that to set off the nuclear explosion would in fact seal the fate of the entire planet?

This plan is that nuclear device if executions are a part of it.

Meditate upon this plan supporters.

justone

[Avocadess]

One of the coolest things I heard this week (of many cool things from both Drake and Cobra) are both Drake and Cobra acknowledging one another. Cobra said on his interview with Lisa M. Harrison that one of the members of the "Resistance" with which Cobra is allied has been in direct contact with one of Drake's contacts.

I am loving this better than the movie the Matrix. :cool: Cobra's disguised voice is a bit tricky to understand for me so I'm thinking it might be difficult for others and I hope to do copious notes from this interview.

Here's a quote from Lisa M. Harrison's interview with Cobra. In response to Lisa's question about whether there were concerns about how humanity is going to react to these upcoming transitions or transformations. Cobra had characterized all of humanity as "hostages" of the Cabal and told of the reasons why the Pleiadians and other "races" have not yet made direct contact with us en mass. He said that if they did the Cabal would no longer be able to use nuclear weapons worldwide but they would implement MUCH destruction with chemical weapons and so forth.

In fact, that are a number of things Cobra is NOT willing to discuss until AFTER the Cabal has been removed (or surrendered). TODAY -- JUNE 21ST -- IS A CHANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE CABAL TO SURRENDER. They are going out -- whether they surrender or not.

(Note from Avocadess: like in most scenarios, surrender will give villainous types and their families a sweeter deal if they can humble themselves enough to do so. I applaud those who are humane enough choose surrender!)

Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

To which Lisa responded, "Yes, it's like the victim falling in love with the perpetrator."

Cobra then added, "Yes, yes. Something similar to Stockholm Syndrome."

"En mass," said Lisa.

"Yes," agreed Cobra.

:sad:

By the way, Lisa's website is http://www.lisamharrison.com/

and Cobra's ongoing and excellent, instructive and upbeat blog is at:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

[SilentFeathers]

From the Cobra blogsite:

Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.

PS: People are asking why the Pleiadians can not manifest funds. For this you need to have a receiving manifestation chamber on the surface of the planet and another sending manifestation chamber on the ship.


Note: If he'she is saying the hammer is coming down now (or soon) and we are all going to ascend or be evaporated, why do they need thousands and thousands of dollars for future interviews and conferences etc...(which of course would mean over the next several months and or years???? hence: "regular monthly donations" hmmm? I am amused at the manifestation chamber concept too.

[Avocadess]

SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.

[SilentFeathers]

SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.

Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012

[gripreaper]

The problem on earth is a human / non human dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

justone

Well, supposedly that is why the Draconian's from the Orion star system came here in the first place, because they were losing their connection to source, or their soul if you will. They had relations with the indigenous species on this planet and created a hybrid. The lower Archon's became energy vampires and have been harvesting our life force ever since. They used the Ormus as food, as well as the juices of the humans, and now they are totally cut off from source. It is questionable whether they are human at all, or have any soul spark, and can survive at all without stealing life force from humans.

So, what happened below Dulce is a good example of this insane part of the nightmare, and what type of creatures we are dealing with, and whether they have a soul or not. There are very few who have talked about Dulce, and those who have get silenced, like Phil Schneider for example.

I think the distinction between an empathic soul and a soulless psychopath needs to be made clear, and the moral aspects of this dilemma brought forward. No plan can succeed until we acknowledge the true nature of what we are dealing with.

[Avocadess]

Agenda 21 for Dummies – a UN plan that promotes the New World Order (NW)O) – is on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

Drake announced through is website today that this evening, Thursday, June 21st, there will be an important national conference call for the United States on:

HOW TO GET AN ANTI-AGENDA 21 LAW PASSED IN YOUR STATE

Ken Freeman and Don Casey, who were responsible for getting an "anti-Agenda 21" law passed in Alabama will be on this call.

Phone Number for Call: 209-647-1600
PIN to connect to conference : 915138

This call will begin at 7:00 p.m. Central Time.

U.S. Time Conversions:

8:00 p.m. Eastern Time
6:00 p.m. Mountain Time
5:00 p.m. Pacific Time
2:00 p.m. Hawaii Time

"WE NEED FOR ALL STATES TO PASS THIS 'LAW' !!!!!!!!!!!" -- Drake

Alabama is the first state to pass an anti Agenda-21 bill (Alabama Senate Bill 477 or SB477). Both Don and Ken were instrumental in getting this bill passed and the wording for the bill was provided by the late Henry Lamb. Drake guarantees that the same or similar bill will be passed in Tennessee in 2013.

Ken Freeman and Don Casey Website: Alliance for Citizens Rights http://www.keepourrights.org/

Drake also wrote, "This call will be recorded. If you do not want to be recorded but would like to have a question answered send me an email with your question and I will do my best to get it answered for you (if not answered on the call)."

I assume you can get your questions to Drake by going to his website, http://americannationalmilitia.com/ and leaving a comment if you cannot find an email contact address.

Drake also attached a copy of the bill and an article with this link:

http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/06/alabama-adopts-first-official-state-ban-on-un-agenda-21/

AGENDA for the 2-hour national conference call:

8:00pm to 8:45pm Don Casey and Ken Freeman - SB477

8:45pm to 9:00pm Karen Bracken - ICLEI Free In Tennessee

9:00pm to 9:15pm Karen Bracken - Treaties (a short description attached)

9:15pm to 9:30pm Karen Bracken - UN Day (Saturday, October 20, 2012) GET THE US OUT OF THE UN (HR1146) How do we want to promote these events?

9:30pm to 10:00pm Open Discussion

Other info at the end of Drake's announcement I have not had a chance to check yet but include here:

Additional information to be discussed during HR1146 segment

popvox.com

jbs.org (Act Now)

Tpolicy.com

[Avocadess]

Cobra also said, after asking for minimum $1000 donations:

"Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success."

I have never been of the monied class in this life, but I have known a few and I find it very believable that Cobra is telling the truth here. If he is sincere and "on mission" (as I believe him to be, though I could be wrong) then I can certainly understand wanting to accept only $1000 donations in order to make things run more simply and efficiently.

Maybe I'm one of the biggest fools, but I don't think so. I do not consider money to be the be all and end all of anything. Thus far what Cobra has been producing I can only give a "thumbs up" to. He is not requiring me to pay him a penny. I would rather hear Cobra ask for thousand-dollar donations for work to help liberate humanity than a drunk on the street asking for a five-spot to buy another six-pack of beer, that's for sure. =)

[Molope]

This might be a dumb question but since i have it i will ask it and im sure someone will answer it.
Lets just say that th 22nd Comes and nothing happens then what? Whats next? i have to admit i dont visit this thread since weeks but first was the mass arrests on May and etc.... now its this.So if this fails it will be delayed till September or October? I must say that if nothing happens on the 22nd you better start to think this is a lie after a lie.Yet i do respect anyone that believes Drake everyone is free to believe what they want.

[SilentFeathers]

Maybe I'm one of the biggest fools, but I don't think so.

I don't think your a fool either, perhaps hungry, or even starving, for change and or solutions that none of us can deny that need to happen. It would be wise though to constantly look at everything, not just this Drake/Cobra scenario, from every angle possible and be careful where your led or where you tread......no one can deny that this world is full of lies and deceptions, some very dangerous and deadly.....and some even expensive.

[9eagle9]

So by self admission this is like a big cool movie drama to them.....

(frowns)

but we knew that.

I bet ten dollars these are the same people who sat through 16 showings of Titanic in one day.

Or maybe Grease.

Oh rose, oh jack. Jakc, Rose Rose, Jack Jack ....Sandy. Danny I hate you and I never want to see you again!

These sorts of whisteblowers..? Their fans don't do a whole lot for their credibiity . Gee Beaver its a real swell movie.



SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.

Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012

[Avocadess]

WORLD LIBERATION MOVEMENT -- Meditating together globally every Sunday until the BREAKTHROUGH to FREEDOM is fully realized:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjXIstvQeKo&;feature=player_embedded#!

"EVERY SUNDAY UNTIL OUR PLANET IS LIBERATED."



SilentFeathers: You are RIGHT -- I am hungry for freedom. I will cheer and back anyone and everyone who I understand, feel and sense are working proactively toward that goal. (I am really BIG on these every Sunday meditations by the way. AS THE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND INTEND WITH OUR HEARTS WE SHALL BE FREE...!!!

[Chester]

One of the coolest things I heard this week (of many cool things from both Drake and Cobra) are both Drake and Cobra acknowledging one another. Cobra said on his interview with Lisa M. Harrison that one of the members of the "Resistance" with which Cobra is allied has been in direct contact with one of Drake's contacts.

I am loving this better than the movie the Matrix. :cool: Cobra's disguised voice is a bit tricky to understand for me so I'm thinking it might be difficult for others and I hope to do copious notes from this interview.

Here's a quote from Lisa M. Harrison's interview with Cobra. In response to Lisa's question about whether there were concerns about how humanity is going to react to these upcoming transitions or transformations. Cobra had characterized all of humanity as "hostages" of the Cabal and told of the reasons why the Pleiadians and other "races" have not yet made direct contact with us en mass. He said that if they did the Cabal would no longer be able to use nuclear weapons worldwide but they would implement MUCH destruction with chemical weapons and so forth.

In fact, that are a number of things Cobra is NOT willing to discuss until AFTER the Cabal has been removed (or surrendered). TODAY -- JUNE 21ST -- IS A CHANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE CABAL TO SURRENDER. They are going out -- whether they surrender or not.

(Note from Avocadess: like in most scenarios, surrender will give villainous types and their families a sweeter deal if they can humble themselves enough to do so. I applaud those who are humane enough choose surrender!)

Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

To which Lisa responded, "Yes, it's like the victim falling in love with the perpetrator."

Cobra then added, "Yes, yes. Something similar to Stockholm Syndrome."

"En mass," said Lisa.

"Yes," agreed Cobra.

:sad:

By the way, Lisa's website is http://www.lisamharrison.com/

and Cobra's ongoing and excellent, instructive and upbeat blog is at:

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

That's total BS - the planners are going to apply the same idiocy that has humanity held hostage against a portion of humanity. Make em surrender or kill em? What idiocy.

When the sun burps our way and you know the storm is coming... because we WILL have notice... remember this lovely plan. Pure idiocy.

I sure hope that the "planners" are just delusional... and those who buy into it the same.

Maybe what happens to us collectively is for the best... at least for the best of the galaxy and universe that no longer gets caught up in such garbage.

I am sure folks like me will be targeted as having "stockholm syndrome" too.

pure idiocy.

[Fred Steeves]

Gee Beaver its a real swell movie.


You really crack me up sometimes eagle, Margaritas are on me one of these days! http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif

[Revere]

Avocadees

WORLD LIBERATION MOVEMENT -- Meditating together globally every Sunday until the BREAKTHROUGH to FREEDOM is fully realized:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjXIs...ayer_embedded#!



I am all for us (humanity) providing as much possitive Intention for this planet and our selves as we possibly can! It can not hurt and it does not matter whatever Wilcock/Drake know, think they know or Imagined. Whatever! We need as much possitive intention as possible. Check out our groups section here for the "Global Intention Group". We need everyone possible!

Peace,
-R-

[Chester]

SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.

Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012

Brilliant points - besides the fact that anyone who believes any of this is incredibly gullible, the fact that gullibility has in fact led to wars (perhaps all wars), all you "plan fans" should really look carefully in the mirror with regards to are you on board with "executions." Where are you Avocadess? You even stated many times that the execution part bothered you. What changed? What could possibly have clicked somewhere inside you that you would support executions?

Please, enlighten me. I am willing to learn (more).

[Chester]

The problem on earth is a human / non human dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

justone

Well, supposedly that is why the Draconian's from the Orion star system came here in the first place, because they were losing their connection to source, or their soul if you will. They had relations with the indigenous species on this planet and created a hybrid. The lower Archon's became energy vampires and have been harvesting our life force ever since. They used the Ormus as food, as well as the juices of the humans, and now they are totally cut off from source. It is questionable whether they are human at all, or have any soul spark, and can survive at all without stealing life force from humans.

So, what happened below Dulce is a good example of this insane part of the nightmare, and what type of creatures we are dealing with, and whether they have a soul or not. There are very few who have talked about Dulce, and those who have get silenced, like Phil Schneider for example.

I think the distinction between an empathic soul and a soulless psychopath needs to be made clear, and the moral aspects of this dilemma brought forward. No plan can succeed until we acknowledge the true nature of what we are dealing with.

Thanks Grip - I agree 100%. So who among us can determine with 100% certainty which beings have a soul or not? And even further to that, what exactly is a soul? If there indeed is supposed to be a realm of solely ensouled beings, then I see that as segregation.

But hey, what do I know? I see us all as spirit beings having a bodily experience. I see the soul as a container that takes our essence from experience to experience. Is it possible that some amongst us have actually decided to manage the souls of others for their own gain against our will? Can that actually happen? Or could we actually have played an equal part over the millenia in manifesting this strange dance?

How does any of us know if the Draconians have a soul or not? I am not convinced at all about that. I have been given no proof just people's opinions. Just because some branches of the family eat other branches, most of us humans eat animals. We are animals to the Draconians and so who made us god or king of the jungle of righteousness?

How has no one here considered that earth might be an experiment that could result in the Draconians rediscovery of their supposed lost soul? I can become a vegetarian if I want to. Who is judging me now that I am not? Do I lack a soul because I ate chicken for lunch?

Who has decided which living beings have souls or not and who can eat who or not?

When are we going to seek a solution such that even our relatives (yes, relatives), the Alpha Draconians, could once again find or create anew a soul if indeed a soul is so critical to experiencing our common realm?

[StarDust]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

[Fred Steeves]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hmmm, that's quite the handy answer to a difficult question. Now why didn't I think of that?

Here I was thinking a new date would be required, but now that's been neatly taken care of.

[RMorgan]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.


Dear ones,

We have vaporized the cabal! The mass arrests were a huge success!

Unfortunately, you wont remember such persons, because by throwing them into the sun, all their memories and traces of their existence were completely erased from your history!

Rest assured that our plan was very successful and now you are completely free!

Salamat Ya, Salat ma jun!

Raf.

[Chester]

Dear ones,

We have vaporized the cabal! The mass arrests were a huge success!

Unfortunately, you wont remember such persons, because by throwing them into the sun, all their memories and traces of their existence were completely erased from your history!

Rest assured that our plan was very successful and now you are completely free!

Salamat Ya, Salat ma jun!

Raf.

Ohhh and don't forget to make your donations so we can set up a new soul monitoring agency such that no spirit being ever gets outa hand again... and please pass the roast beef while your at it.

[StarDust]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.


For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

[RMorgan]

For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

Oh, so they´re the ones who had this brilliant idea.

Anyway, it still doesn´t make any sense to me and frankly, these folks are looking worse than the people they are supposedly fighting against.

So, they want to end violence with more violence? Really? Don´t we ever learn?

I might be wrong, but I think there´s nothing divine about it and, in the Earthly realm, it simply doesn´t work.

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

If anyone here is thinking about donating $1.000 to this folks, please, think again. There are several real, tangible, transparent, solid and very serious charity institutions that could really use this money to save real lives.

Raf.

[StarDust]

For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

Oh, so they´re the ones who had this brilliant idea.

Anyway, it still doesn´t make any sense to me and frankly, these folks are looking worse than the people they are supposedly fighting against.

So, they want to end violence with more violence? Really? Don´t we ever learn?

I might be wrong, but I think there´s nothing divine about it and, in the Earthly realm, it simply doesn´t work.

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. As Bashar states, "shift to the one you prefer!" The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Edv0v2mOL60

:boom:

[SilentFeathers]

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

I agree, it's blowing my mind watching everything in the arsenal of science fiction, religions, myths, etc being thrown into this and it is only getting more believable and or more acceptable for many as an absolute truth.....it's actually quite disturbing to me.....

[Chester]

Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for? :cool:

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.


For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

According to several sources revered amongst the more open minded (Alex Collier being one of them) - the conflict within which earth is currently involved has been going on for several hundred thousand years.

Hurling spirit beings into the sun will solve nothing. Finding ways to co-exist with spirit beings and gainig the spiritual strength to defend against spirit beings intent on imposing their will upon another without that other's consent are the solutions. Hurling beings we deem too dangerous to allow to live in their bodily forms into the sun (under the delusion their eternal spirit will become extinguished) or executing beings in bodily form will simply result in the scenario such that a bigger, badder close relative to the temporarily defeated ones will come and seek revenge and/or the entities that are controlling the physical beings will escape only to be able to inhabit another physical vessel. That they feed upon the most horrific emotions in the lower astral suggests that by executing these beings will allow them to create the very energies they feed upon and thus likely will carry forth into their next incarnation. Now if we want to remain a selfish race (humanity) then perhaps this is a wise (temporary) solution.

I suggest otherwise.

And as for the Pleiadians and the Sirians - they are also purported to be involved in both positive ways and negative ways. When are these so called contacts going to start identifying individuals instead of using blanket generalities such as "Pleiadians"?

I want the names of the Pleiadians because I judge the individual beings as to whether I trust them or not... not basing my judgement upon their genetic heritage.

[9eagle9]

A very clear and clear message to the powers that be that we find their brand of punishment acceptable. And people think this is the creation of a new world.

It no longer amazes me that people betray their principles that readily and what are they getting out of it? The promise perhaps that someday they'll have a rifle leveled at their head, something that is now unheard of as we post from the comfort of our couch. When that day comes , it's what you agreed to, and so this is what you get.


Yeah well if Source decides to send ..whomever...into the sun let that be Source's decision and not some prattling house wife or arm chair warrior who has no real implication of what 'having blood on one's hands' really means for them.

[RMorgan]

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Hey mate,

I really respect your point of view, since it´s your personal belief, but I don´t buy it.

Archons? I´ve been here at PA for a long time and people rarely used this word. Then, about three months ago, someone mentioned this word in a thread and now, suddenly, everything is about Archons.

The Archons now are the ultimate escape mechanism to blame others for our mistakes.

My point of view is that humans are powerful and can do even good or bad things.

Unfortunately, some decided to do a lot of bad things and here we are.

Anyway, I respect you and your point of view.

Raf.

[Fred Steeves]

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.


It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

[StarDust]

According to several sources revered amongst the more open minded (Alex Collier being one of them) - the conflict within which earth is currently involved has been going on for several hundred thousand years.

The primary difference between then and now is that Gaia was now preparing to become a proverbial "butterfly" from the caterpillar it was during the past moment until now. I think everyone would be singing a different tune if Gaia had chosen the "traditional" route - massive earth changes with most of the population of the earth 'moving on' to their next assignment; some as 4th density humans, most as 3rd density repeats elsewhere.

Although I find some people's compassion for the worst of the worst to be touching in a pseudo Stockholm Syndrome sort of way, it is clearly the decision of Source as to how this is handled. I'm prepared to accept Source's decision either way. I was always taught that "you make your bed & you must lay in it." And if that bed happens to be the Central Sun for some because they can't stop their dark and nefarious ways, then so be it.

[Oouthere]

justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories of evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

[9eagle9]

It is quite disturbing because it is no different than observing how people are losing their marbles and eating people's faces off in public. Less extreme perhaps but when one starts revering something that has been opposed on humanity , mass executions, in the form of holocausts, genocide, witch hunts PUBLICLY you know you are watching infiltration and conversion right in front of your nose.

That sort of parasitical influence used to hide itself but since people publicly, and willfully agree to it, why hide?

Divided earth, that all these prophets have spoke of. Not in the way described where all the good people go to Bambi land and the bad folks are left to stew in a destroyed earth but who remains relatively un scored on a spirtual level and who gets sucked into yet the same old tired game that has been playing out for thousands of years.

Right now there is no less than six threads describing what ails us, how we are infiltrated and become the unwitting pawn to the powers that be. For every thread describing that we have at least four in play so that shows people losing themselves to infiltration and another program uploaded into the old artificial installation they never bothered to do anything about because someone 'is coming to fix everything'.

The fixing is occurring now. Fine tuning the old installation there in case someone may have second thoughts or see how utterly insane this all is.

For those people who have participated in those threads of how this cording in programming occurs here's their opportunity to see it live time and people wonder why its so morbidly fascinating, to watch others sell them selves out.

These are not people who are remotely qualified to determine who gets to live and who gets to die because they can't see what is happening to themselves and that is more than likely what you find so disturbing.









Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

I agree, it's blowing my mind watching everything in the arsenal of science fiction, religions, myths, etc being thrown into this and it is only getting more believable and or more acceptable for many as an absolute truth.....it's actually quite disturbing to me.....

[RMorgan]

justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

Hey mate,

I think this "plan" was initially labeled mass arrests not mass murder.

Prison is more than enough for those people. There´s no single reason to kill any human being.

No one, alien or human, has the right to kill anyone. period.

Raf.

[StarDust]

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.


It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?

The 27 Trillion year old hologram that we all play within was created by Source. The bottom line is that if Source changes the rule book within the hologram, then the rule book is changed. Period! And according to these reports, the energies are only being returned to Source and I have no way of confirming if their memory is erased in its entirety beyond the lower levels of consciousness.

[StarDust]

justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

Hey mate,

I think this "plan" was initially labeled mass arrests not mass murder.

Prison is more than enough for those people. There´s no single reason to kill any human being.

No one, alien or human, has the right to kill anyone. period.

Raf.

Then take it up with the ET/EDs who have allegedly been tasked with this plan of action. And again, there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE. We are all infinite expressions of Source until Source decides to return these aspects back to Source.

[Fred Steeves]

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.


It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?


Everything is Soul, Spirit, whatever one wants to call It. There's nothing that is not.

[RMorgan]

Then take it up with the ET/EDs who have allegedly been tasked with this plan of action. And again, there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE. We are all infinite expressions of Source until Source decides to return these aspects back to Source.

Hey mate,

Don´t get me wrong, but you´re falling in a big contradiction here.

First, you say a highly unsubstantiated thing like - "The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator."

Then, Fred says that - "It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed."

Then you reply saying - "According to whom?"- saying that he´s just making assumptions.

And then you say that - "there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE."

If Fred says that "no soul is ever lost or destroyed" and you say that "there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE", then isn´t it the same thing?

Besides, what are all those fantastic things you´re saying but very big assumptions?

I could answer all your statements the same way you´ve answered Fred:

According to whom?

Raf.

[StarDust]

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.


It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?


Everything is Soul, Spirit, whatever one wants to call It. There's nothing that is not.

On an fundamental level I understand what you are trying to say. I, too, believe that everything is constructed out of Source. To me that is a more definitive term since there are infinite ways that 'beings' (aspects of Source) are constructed. I don't, however, believe that all beings have souls. They may have started out that way, but some, through free will of choice have walked away from that 'model'.

The reason I make that distinction is that it seems rather evident that some 'species' in this universe have been seeking ways to extend their survival since some of the critical essence of 'soul energies' were lost, discarded, weened out of existence, etc. Now they are stuck and trying desperately to use the incredibly diverse genetic makeup of humans as a life-line. Well, that time is up and for those beings that thought they could do it better than Source. They are now being returned to Source. If they have go kicking and screaming into the light, then that is their choice.

[Billy]

I am not meaning to go off topic here but a few of the recent comments about the soul has reminded me of the Hindu story of Hanuman battling the Demi God Ravana who could not be destroyed.
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Hanuman later found out the secret of Ravana's imortality. His soul was not with his body but kept in a secret place in the underworld seperated from the body.
The container that Hanuman holds is the soul of Ravana, He is returning the soul to Ravana to enable him to be defeated.


Read the story here. Just click on the next number to follow the story.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1194

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1195

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1196

I sometimes wonder if the Cabal have sold their souls and are trapped here.

Peace