Using a PENDULUM but having great doubts......

[Earth Angel]

I have had a set of dowsing rods and an amethyst crystal pendulum for several years now. I use them usually when I am worried about something and really want to know the outcome......however I noticed that when I went to use it recently the things I thought should be Yes were saying no and vice versa.......so I asked 'show me yes' and ' show me no" and sure enough they were the opposite to what they had been in the past for me.....so fine, I adjust my brain to the new versions of Yes and No.....today I asked a question which I really wanted a YES to and sure enough, it said yes, so as it was swinging I thought okay turn that into a no and the pendulum began swinging in the way that would be a no.......now as amazing as it is that my mind can change the way this crystal swings I am now left wondering if its of any use at all.......if anyone here has experience and knowledge on this subject I'd love to hear what you think

ps It always says yes when I ask if I am going to win the lotto ;)

[RMorgan]

Hi my friend,

The same thing happens to me. Looks like my pendulum is very biased as well. It moves to wherever I want it to move, so I´ve given up of using it to look for answers.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Carolin]

I stopped using my pendulum because it only tells me what I want to hear too. I still use muscle testing to confirm an action I'm in question about but look at it as an inner knowledge instead of a higher knowledge.

There are many variables to dowsing. My Dad owned heavy equiptment and would use metal rods to locate gas lines etc before digging. He said they wouldn't work for him if he went out the night before with the guys and had a few drinks. I gave him a pendulum to test for food allergies and it wouldn't move at all for him when he was too sick or toxic.

P.S. Be very specific with your questions, you could win the lotto but a free ticket is still winning. Winner/Gagnant in Ontario

[Earth Angel]

thanks Carolin, I have tried the muscle testing with fingers looped ......is that how you do it on yourself"?? even there I question am I holding on a little tighter than I need to for this statement that I want to be true....I know the key is to relax and allow and not have any need for a certain outcome, but hey if that was the case, I wouldn't bother asking the questions

[gripreaper]

The source field only understands first person present tense. In order to eliminate bias, you need an unbiased third party to muscle test the question.

[meeradas]

Throw it.
Stop worrying; instead trust your self.
You'll see the outcome anyway.

[Earth Angel]

Throw it.

is that a new technique lol
stopping worrying is something I have trouble with, much much better than I was but still have things I am stressing about

[meeradas]

is that a new technique lol

Haha, nope.
Proven and tested.

My very well-meant advice:
Once free of troubles, worries and stresses,
pick up the pendulum (or any other of these tools) again, if you then still want to do so.

[Earth Angel]

yes unfortunately it's when we are free of troubles , worries and stresses we don't bother......its like running to a fortune teller or psychic when we are worried......when all is going well we just go with the flow and it keeps going well......which is what I should do, instead of asking I should tell myself what my future is!!



is that a new technique lol

Haha, nope.
Proven and tested.

My very well-meant advice:
Once free of troubles, worries and stresses,
pick up the pendulum (or any other of these tools) again, if you then still want to do so.

[meeradas]

instead of asking I should tell myself what my future is!!

Reconsider what's in the Wayne Dyer video [remember? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43334-Dr.-Wayne-Dyer-New-PBS-Special-Wishes...)].
Stressed out and over-worried, maybe take some Bach Rescue (http://www.directlyfromnature.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1814) and settle.
Love yourself no matter what.

[9eagle9]

if you want to use a pendulum you need a medium (another person) who doesn't have the emotional attachments or filters to the questions being asked. The subconscious which navigates a pendulum is loaded with filters. Just someone who can use the pendulum, they needn't be experts.

Or...you could remove your own filters. By that time...you don't need a pendulum.

Or use double blind swinging like one uses for remote viewing.

Select a bunch of questions and write them down on several chits of paper. Wait a few days, stir them up, select one without reading the question and use your pendulum. You will receive a less filtered response.

If you ask a pendulum a question over a topic you aren't really emotionally invested in, covertly or overtly, you will get a clear response. So if you don't know the question you can't invest in (influence) the answers outcome.

I know I've used pendulums for years and have often found my self 'thinking NO, thats not the answer i wanted. Then it would turn its swing to accommodate me.

Perhaps you might to wish to use a bobber instead, (like a divining rod).

[Earth Angel]

Perhaps you might to wish to use a bobber instead, (like a divining rod).

would that be the same as dowsing rods?? I have those also.....


The source field only understands first person present tense. In order to eliminate bias, you need an unbiased third party to muscle test the question.

I watched a video from Love or Above with Christie Marie Sheldon and she shows you to do the muscle testing on yourself you loop your fingers and make a chain, say a statement then pull .....if its true you will not break the chain if its not true you will

[aranuk]

I use a stainless steel pendulum as it doesn't require cleaning. Most chrystal ones need cleaning with sea salt as I have been told that elemental beings cling onto them and deliberately give you the wrong answer. However I tested that and took the result as the wrong answer to my questions, which gives you the real answer. No. The elementals have even more fun changing the answers. After many years I have given up using the pendulum. But I still have my stainless steel one in the drawer.


Stan

[9eagle9]

A bobber isn't quite the same as a diving rod, but bobbers are used in place of diving rods (and pendulums) you can use a diving rod in place of both a bobber and pendulum.

I've found muscle testing to be more dependable than the pendulum when I don't have a second party around to query for me.

The OP should have a party here do their questions for them. Distance and relation doesn't really matter.

[Little Ishta]

Vibrations and energies are different now. When I went to use my pendulum a while back (about 2 weeks ago), my pendulum broke. And my friend who owns one as well can't even find hers. Guess we didn't need it anymore lol.

[nenosema]

yes, this has been happening.

i did as Earth Angel did and reversed my answers, but i dont use a pendulum.. i use what i like to call my internal pendulum, sometimes what i used to refer to as 'the ayahwasca voice'
it goes beyond yes or no answers in capability ;-]

Anyhow, two weeks ago i was planning for an sort of event in my life, and noticed that my questions and answers were askewed.
without at the time (because i didn't seem to think of it) resorting to my own good humor , i basically on purpose made a fool and a horrible day for myself, by taking it as a defeate from aya telling me what i must do in order to overcome something.. but this i now find was not the case, as the answers though different than they ever have been before , are easy enough to read or recieve now than they were on that day with the mixup. therefore i practically did the exact opposite with hope . . horrible day

i could go further into this but there are somethings i need to sort out -
definately interference, but by what/who?
are they or would they be steering you in a direction you would not necessarily go? has anyone noticed this?

[Carmody]

single card draw on a well shuffled tarot deck, done on a single clear question. That tends to work quite well.

[DreamsInDigital]

I wonder how much this is effected by the magnetic pole reversal we've been going through lately.

[9eagle9]

The ego, filters, conditioning those are all densities that interfere or block free energy. All within us. There is a reason why psyche and psychic are virtually the same world.

In regards to readings, I began to notice that people of no particular astounding ability are more easily able to do readings for me than those who claimed 'great powers' or proclaimed themselves as remarkable psychics.

I began reading the readers and noticed the 'psychics' had so much of their self identity tied up in being a psychic, stretching for that spot on reading, they invested all their energies in proving themselves rather than reading me....lol. Mostly what I got was 'how they perceived me' rather than anything resembling the truth of anything. Granted I've had some INTERESTING readings but very few that ever had any sort of validation.

I no longer get readings but if I'm in the mood for a different perspective I'll hand off to someone who doesn't quite have so much of their self identity wrapped up in things.

[Carmody]

The ego, filters, conditioning those are all densities that interfere or block free energy. All within us. There is a reason why psyche and psychic are virtually the same world.

In regards to readings, I began to notice that people of no particular astounding ability are more easily able to do readings for me than those who claimed 'great powers' or proclaimed themselves as remarkable psychics.

I began reading the readers and noticed the 'psychics' had so much of their self identity tied up in being a psychic, stretching for that spot on reading, they invested all their energies in proving themselves rather than reading me....lol. Mostly what I got was 'how they perceived me' rather than anything resembling the truth of anything. Granted I've had some INTERESTING readings but very few that ever had any sort of validation.

I no longer get readings but if I'm in the mood for a different perspective I'll hand off to someone who doesn't quite have so much of their self identity wrapped up in things.

I go as blank as I can, with only the question remaining, in perfection, in the act..then the card is drawn, in that moment. Only then does it work properly.