A Rejected Experience

[write4change]

Yesterday, I watched the movie Melancholia with Kirsten Dunst. It had a lot of other major stars in smaller roles like Keifer Sutherland. It is an English movie. It made the rounds of film festivals and did well there but died in America.

I have heard no one discuss this film and I am quit sure why. It is a downer in all sense of the word. If you give yourself up to the experience you essentially experience the end of the world that is neither exciting nor entertaining.

The movie itself is both slow and surreal. But I get that is was discussed somewhat in Europe. The reason I am sharing my experience is that it felt like a lot of this forum lately.

The movie is about a newly discovered planet that is much much larger than earth being found on track to impact the earth. TPTB deny this until the planet becomes visible to everyone and everyday is obviously bigger and closer. The movie makes this all look in slow motion and there is no indication that it would cause climate change or have any repercussions on the earth's orbit or satillites which would happen in reality.

The story takes place at a scrumptious and expensive wedding being produced by Sutherland representing the noble and elite 1%. He is doing this to make everyone happy. He is in total denial this is going to happen believing the latest BS that at the last minute the planet will be pass very close but not impact the earth. He believes this until he dies at the end of the film from a horse kick.

Sutherland sole voice throughout the movie is smile and this too will pass. I have spent a lot of money to make people just happy -- so be happy. But everyone is surreally depressed and going through the motions.

Kirsten Dunst is the bride and she is almost mentally ill with depression. This wedding is somehow supposed to bring meaning to what she sees as the end of her life. She is considered mentally ill because she will not deny the death she sees in front of her face. She essentially just wants to lay down and go with the flow of the death of the planet.

She has moments of crazyness wanting to run her horse to death or just beat on him till she is exhausted. The horse just lays down.

What you see in the background is the animals getting slowly crazier and wanting to get away. And then they are suddenly calm and they seem to realize there is no escape.

This is when the rich people get crazy because they see practically at the last minute there is no escape and all they can do for the most part is take pills and drink hoping to die first.

Now is when Kirsten Dunst finds her strength and she becomes the example of living consiously up to the moment. She builds a pyramic of sticks and sets with her sister and nephew to mediatate until the end. The kid has asked for the truth all thru the film and the adults all lie and you see his eyes knowing they are lying.

In the end he has the strongest grip and the deepest meditation.

I have basically accepted what I see to be a consistent and explicit message of the crop circles. A wave is coming and the only way to save the planet from total destruction is for the people of the world to be united with their minds and hearts and form a force field with the dark energy between all matter and the energy of their hearts and minds united together.

What is interesting to me is that I believe this with both my heart and my mind. My heart says this is possible. But my mind says it will never happen.

I experience that duality on this forum all the time. If we cannot extend tolerance and civility to each other here. How will it ever be possible for the people of the planet to join hearts and minds to form a virtual shield for the planet?

Discuss.

[Earth Angel]

I believe he died from an overdose.......not a kick in the head, rather cowardly leaving his wife and son

I actually had to watch this movie with my eyes closed....haha if you can call that watching it......something about the way it was filmed made me feel sick..... it was very odd.....and like you said a long drawn out unhappy film

[write4change]

Thanks for the clarification. I must have looked down at that point. I also had a hard time watching it. I saw him in the stall and the wife covering him up and again her making up a whole scenerio for her son about Daddy riding out on the horse.

But you chickened out on discussing how you think you would approach a final knowing of the end of the world which really was the point of the movie. I am not poking you. I appreciate the response but maybe we need a good dose of if this were really the end what do you choose?

[christian]

If we cannot extend tolerance and civility to each other here. How will it ever be possible for the people of the planet to join hearts and minds to form a virtual shield for the planet?

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools." - Martin Luther King

It's been said so often, it can be considered common knowledge, most of us here have been touched by speeches like that from Charlie Chaplin at the end of "The Great Dictator" and yet every now and then people get into petty fights with each other. Why do they choose to do so? Lack of self-discipline? Maybe. Lots of subtle malevolent influence? Possibly, all over the place. What can we do? Work on our impeccability and constantly recall this meme "love another, love thyself". There's lots of benevolent subtle support as well, at the end what we do is always our choice, if we assertively claim that prerogative.

When overall good people display a little streak of being nasty towards me, I first try not to confuse this "me" with my ego and then I don't further the other person's behaviour by giving attention to it, because if it is an issue in my mind, I take part in creating it. In situations like that I rather just keep my balance without being truly harmed anyways and by doing this I can help others to find their balance again as well, being a mirror in which they will see their own behaviour for what it is, it just takes patience on my side. The approach of combining being gentle with being firm is the hardest, takes the most time and is most succesful eventually, I find.

[write4change]

Ah, Christian it is because someone like you exists I find hope that we might make it and I stay here.

What I want to know is if someone like you believes we can seriusly hold our heart energy with our minds united in this congruence theory that is now becoming so prevalent.

[Earth Angel]

oh yes, you are right I didn't discuss my approach......personally I like to think I am prepared but I often have my doubts......in the film the kid did handle it beautifully and so did Kirsten but the mother was a wreck which I think would have been hard on the kid....I would like to think I could have my daughters and my husband with me if something like this happens and that we could be strong together, but I am not really sure that would happen .....guess we will have to wait and see ;)

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Thanks for the clarification. I must have looked down at that point. I also had a hard time watching it. I saw him in the stall and the wife covering him up and again her making up a whole scenerio for her son about Daddy riding out on the horse.

But you chickened out on discussing how you think you would approach a final knowing of the end of the world which really was the point of the movie. I am not poking you. I appreciate the response but maybe we need a good dose of if this were really the end what do you choose?

[christian]

Ah, Christian it is because someone like you exists I find hope that we might make it and I stay here.

What I want to know is if someone like you believes we can seriusly hold our heart energy with our minds united in this congruence theory that is now becoming so prevalent.

Only because of me? I thought believing in yourself would give you every reason to know, that we can make it :)

I believe we are capable of absolutely everything :)

[write4change]

Only because of me? I thought believing in yourself would give you every reason to know, that we can make it :)

I believe we are capable of absolutely everything :)[/QUOTE]

Touche.

I also salute your pinanche.

[Delight]

I saw Melancholia. My feeling about it was that it was kind of a dreamily "realistic" portrayal of what might be experienced if a large planet was moving ever closer. Everyone meets an event from "who" we are. Sincerely, I do not expect that everyone here in the world or in this forum is operating from the same state of being. Over and over we see the apocalypses (rending of the veils) and Armageddons (end of the world) enacted by individuals. I look back at my self and know I have matured.

The changes in me make it laughable to expect anyone to understand anything except through life experience. So to want some sort of ideal "everybody is perfect" would seem to deny the value of the rough road of the experiences. I don't imply that you wish this. Maybe what I mean is the desire that we all "grok" something felt to be important. Again, I am not saying you do. I certainly did want that at one time....

You, write4change in the posts I have read sound mature, "experienced". One cannot expect that everyone could possibly reach maturity all at the same time. So, there is the potential frustration from having already traveled and others have not arrived.

Some people who are "reformed" try to keep others from making their mistakes. One so unctious person of that ilk is called Dr. Laura. She made a fortune harrassing people about the very things she did in her reckless youth. That is distasteful to me.

So, I do not believe the "world" is about everyone all being in the same state of maturation at the same moment. I do not believe either that "the end of the world" or "saving the world" or anything at all about the world has anything to do with "why" one is living in the world. And in this statement I am speaking of the mundane 3D world we seem to all share.

And I also perceive that not one of us is tied to the world's activities once we give up its reformation and find we are sovereign within a "bubble" that responds to our state

In fact, I have come to believe that the point when one actually gives up on trying to make the world be something that it isn't that one can gracefully exit the script. By returning attention to what one IS as part of the whole...one as a singular aspect of uniqueness in the whole, one is freed up. I feel into maturation as being able to allow everything to be without any necessity to fix or change, just appreciate the whole. Then one gets to feel that peace and loveliness of "perfection". We each will reach maturity at our right moment.

In a way, I saw Kirsten Dunst gathering herself together at the end of her world so she became fully at peace with herself. She was able to relay confidence to her nephew and sister in my way of looking at the movie. People who feel confident about where they stand inspire others. They don't have to argue someone else into their beliefs and POV. They just stand there and be who they are.

[write4change]

I grok what you say. Like Christian you believe we all get there when we need to get there. I will have some wine tonight before going to bed and meditate that you are right in your assessment.

[seigiarchon]

Yesterday, I watched the movie Melancholia with Kirsten Dunst. It had a lot of other major stars in smaller roles like Keifer Sutherland. It is an English movie. It made the rounds of film festivals and did well there but died in America.

I have heard no one discuss this film and I am quit sure why. It is a downer in all sense of the word. If you give yourself up to the experience you essentially experience the end of the world that is neither exciting nor entertaining.

The movie itself is both slow and surreal. But I get that is was discussed somewhat in Europe. The reason I am sharing my experience is that it felt like a lot of this forum lately.

The movie is about a newly discovered planet that is much much larger than earth being found on track to impact the earth. TPTB deny this until the planet becomes visible to everyone and everyday is obviously bigger and closer. The movie makes this all look in slow motion and there is no indication that it would cause climate change or have any repercussions on the earth's orbit or satillites which would happen in reality.

The story takes place at a scrumptious and expensive wedding being produced by Sutherland representing the noble and elite 1%. He is doing this to make everyone happy. He is in total denial this is going to happen believing the latest BS that at the last minute the planet will be pass very close but not impact the earth. He believes this until he dies at the end of the film from a horse kick.

Sutherland sole voice throughout the movie is smile and this too will pass. I have spent a lot of money to make people just happy -- so be happy. But everyone is surreally depressed and going through the motions.

Kirsten Dunst is the bride and she is almost mentally ill with depression. This wedding is somehow supposed to bring meaning to what she sees as the end of her life. She is considered mentally ill because she will not deny the death she sees in front of her face. She essentially just wants to lay down and go with the flow of the death of the planet.

She has moments of crazyness wanting to run her horse to death or just beat on him till she is exhausted. The horse just lays down.

What you see in the background is the animals getting slowly crazier and wanting to get away. And then they are suddenly calm and they seem to realize there is no escape.

This is when the rich people get crazy because they see practically at the last minute there is no escape and all they can do for the most part is take pills and drink hoping to die first.

Now is when Kirsten Dunst finds her strength and she becomes the example of living consiously up to the moment. She builds a pyramic of sticks and sets with her sister and nephew to mediatate until the end. The kid has asked for the truth all thru the film and the adults all lie and you see his eyes knowing they are lying.

In the end he has the strongest grip and the deepest meditation.

I have basically accepted what I see to be a consistent and explicit message of the crop circles. A wave is coming and the only way to save the planet from total destruction is for the people of the world to be united with their minds and hearts and form a force field with the dark energy between all matter and the energy of their hearts and minds united together.

What is interesting to me is that I believe this with both my heart and my mind. My heart says this is possible. But my mind says it will never happen.

I experience that duality on this forum all the time. If we cannot extend tolerance and civility to each other here. How will it ever be possible for the people of the planet to join hearts and minds to form a virtual shield for the planet?

Discuss.

The Biggest Lesson for Humanity to learn is not how to avoid Death and Destruction but how to cope with Death and Destruction.

This is the nature of the reality which we live in. We chose a Reality which has Death and Destruction in it and since we chose such a Reality, then we must learn how to cope with it.

Unless all of us choose to totally reject the Reality which we are living in right now, reject both the cons and the pros of the current Reality which we are living in right now.

There is no such thing as choosing a Reality which has all the sweetness and happiness of mortality and yet devoid of all the bitterness and sadness associated with mortality.

This is the nature of mortality. Life Begins and Life Dies. So until everyone understand this impermanent Mortal Reality is a waste of time, then I am afraid the Big Bad Planet is gonna crush us.

[muxfolder]

Obsiously you haven't seen any other Lars Von Trier-movies? Movies like Dancer In The Dark, Breaking the Waves, Dogville, Antichrist, or Manderley. It's just his style to make his films very dark and disturbing. Bit like David Lynch and Stanley Kubrick. I think Melancholia was pretty good actually. You should see another movie bit like this called Another Earth.