Birthing Violations by Hospitals.

[Referee]

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This is a case of tricking a soon to be mom into a c section against her will.


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[wynderer]

i stay as far from doctors & hospitals as i can -- i gave birth to my son in a hospital in '69 -- it was such a horrible experience that i decided that my daughter would come into this world in her own home, which she did

i did editorial proofreading for one of the top medical publishers for about 5 yrs in the '90s -- in what was considered the 'gold standard' book at the time on obstetrics & gynecology, the author actually admitted that unnecessary hysterectomies were being done so that the doc could publish & not perish -- it was a stressful job for me, tho i did it freelance in my home -- stressful because of what i was learning -- i quit when Rupert Murdoch bought it out --

imo, the medical establishment is one big part of the NWO

[kathymarie]

Wow....I have 3 daughters....all delivered by c-section. The first was not my choice....long story short the doctor started a pitocin drip then decided a c-section was "safer".....with the 2nd pregnancy I was told it was necessary....(same doctor) middle of the night delivery during Ramadan---I always thought he was just too tired and too hungry to go through the wait of a normal birth. The third pregnancy (different doctor) was supposed to be vaginal delivery with o.r. prepped and readied...but ended up having c-section anyway. At least with the third one I was given a saddle block and stayed awake for the birth....with the first two I was completely "out of it" and have always felt cheated.

[WhiteFeather]

Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.

[Calz]

Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.

Statistically C-sects are way up (at least in america) ... that says something in and of itself.

[1st circumcision??? - how many are you expecting to need??? :laugh: ]

[WhiteFeather]

They get more money perhaps. These Dr Frankensteins whom perform C sections instead of natural deliveries get rewarded handsomely, thats my guess. They do need the extra cash you know. Golf Fees, Vacations, The latest Mercedes Benz. Skys the limit for these AssClowns.

[WhiteFeather]

Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.

Statistically C-sects are way up (at least in america) ... that says something in and of itself.

[1st circumcision??? - how many are you expecting to need??? :laugh: ]

Skys the limit Calz. Hey you gotta have at least ten circumcisions in a lifetime. Lol

[conk]

Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.
Dear God, why would you do that? If lucky enough to have escaped the knife at birth, why do it now? So, so, so wrong.

[Earth Angel]

the c- section allows the doctor to plan his deliveries and not interfere with his golf games etc......also there is less chance of a problem where they can be sued apparently....although one would think the natural birth process less of a risk than major surgery for the mother

[PixieDust]

When I was pregnant and I found out I was having twins I was automatically placed as a high risk pregnancy and no longer able to use a midwife. The midwife I had suggested me to a doctor in her office and when I went to meet the doctor she informed me most twin pregnancies are c-sections. I told her I want it as natural as possible and I do not want a c-section unless complications arrive. She started telling me all the reasons I would need a c-section, one baby is up one is down, usually when baby number one comes out baby number 2 falls over sideways from the sudden extra space (talk about trying to push a cart side ways :roll:) ect. \

we went around in a circle for about 5 minutes of her trying to scare me into having a c-section becuase its "safer". after I pushed aside all of her excuses she dropped it, we went on to something else then at the end of the meeting she said "So when would you like to schedule your c-section? We like to schedule it a month early with twins to make sure the uterus isn't contracting during surgery because that makes it more difficult."

Needless to say I found another doctor that actually listened to me. In the end I had to give birth in the OR but both came out vaginally and healthy. They even got out of the NICU after 3 days and home with me on day 5 when they told me 2 weeks minimum.

Fighting the nurses and b_tching out the main supervisor about illtreatment of my girls in the NICU is another story.

Next time around Im staying home.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

I understand this drama completely. I found with the my first two deliveries in the hospital drugs were and epidurals are heavily pushed and many nurses and doctors are belittling. My husband and I said both times that we don't need any help giving birth... And bygolly were were right. Our third child was born unassisted in our bed at home. It was absolutely beautiful.

I find it strange that many woman in their first trimester already have been told they are going to require c-sections. Even those who are not high risk.. $$$$

Although, without c-section, my mother and I both would have died. After a long hard labor, it was finially discovered that the placenta was blocking the tunnel.

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Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.

Good luck with that! :)

[Calz]

Interesting. I hope when i go for my 1st circumcision soon they dont do a sex change on me. That would suck much like many Doctors today. Thanks for sharing.

Statistically C-sects are way up (at least in america) ... that says something in and of itself.

[1st circumcision??? - how many are you expecting to need??? :laugh: ]

Skys the limit Calz. Hey you gotta have at least ten circumcisions in a lifetime. Lol

Not sure what level of seriousness you are opting for here my good friend.

Just in the one in a million chance you are serious (not about 10 but one) ... I would not come anywhere near a hospital these days unless you life depended on it.

... but that's just me

[NancyV]

I wanted to stay away from doctors and had a midwife for the birth of my first baby. Unfortunately I couldn't deliver. I finally gave up after about 36 hours of excruciating pain and said "take me to the hospital!". So I had a C Section. I insisted on being awake so they gave me a local although I had to argue for it since they wanted to use a general. Of course the doctor was disapproving of me for not having seen a doctor during my pregnancy, but I don't pay a lot of attention to doctors opinions.

My husband had to follow them around after the birth to make sure they didn't give our son any strange chemicals, put toxic drops in his eyes or circumcise him. Then I said I was leaving after about 12 hours and they said that the doctor would not sign to let me leave and I needed to stay 2 more days. I laughed. I said I AM LEAVING and this is NOT a prison. It's not fun to have to argue with me when I'm pissed off and on top of it all I was in a lot of pain from the labor and major operation so I was even more pissed off at being told I couldn't do what I wanted to do.

After about an hour the doctor came into the room and basically threw the release form at me. I felt MUCH better after getting out of the hospital and our son was fine. This was in 1980. So C Sections are actually needed on occasion and I'm happy they were available or we may have not survived. 4 years later I had my 2nd child at home because no doctor would see me without agreeing to have another C Section. So I just didn't see a doctor again after being turned down by a couple of them because I wanted natural childbirth. That birth turned out fairly okay as the baby was born easily, but there was a complication where the placenta would not release, tore a hole in the uterus (?) and I lost most of the blood in my body...and had a fantastic near death experience. So it was worth it.

Had to go to the hospital again of course, since they thought I was dead or dying. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I got sent back into this life and came back to my body in the car during the long drive to the hospital. We didn't admit the baby to the hospital so they couldn't mess with her, but I had to have a few units of blood in order that I didn't pass out every time I sat up. It was quite a funny scene as I was laughing my ass off from being in bliss from the NDE, passing out every time I sat up, the doctors were annoyed that I didn't bring the baby and that I didn't give birth in the hospital, then they got annoyed that I insisted on leaving as soon as we completed the blood transfusions, plus I only agreed to 3 units of blood instead of the 6 or more they wanted me to have. Oh well, you can't please all the people all of the time.

If women don't educate themselves and they believe everything a doctor tells them it is their own ignorance that is the major problem. Trusting anyone else, any doctor...to make choices for you without doing a lot of research on your own will often prove to be counterproductive to your health and well being. It is our individual responsibility to inform ourselves of all the possibilities that exist and to make a choice that we feel good about. Unfortunately we humans generally tend to accept whatever "truths" our most prevalent societal and familial programming has dictated to us. I would advise people to question everything and believe nothing. When I make a mistake it is MY mistake and not just an automatic acceptance of someone else's dictates. I do not have the convenience of blaming the doctors or hospitals since I understand that the programmings they've accepted as truths are dictating their advice and actions.

[WyoSeeker]

There's a wonderful documentary that covers this, funded by Ricky Lake called The Business of Being Born. Highly recommended viewing!

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/business-being-born/