Nicki Minaj Reptilian Shapshift Caught In Motion (debunked)

[seantimberwolf]

More proof my friends that our main stream media and music is infectious tripe that rots your brains,
I always had a bad feeling about these new "weird" music artists and where they got there ideas from.
This is all the Evidence we need i checked the original interview and its the real deal.
Its a colour change and its in motion too.
Scary stuff people, stay vigilent.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQTyupq2NI

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

This is probably the result of motion blur + low frame rate you tube video.

Anytime you move a circle very fast, the motion blur, in low frame rate, will look like a series of ellipses.

This is what happened to this woman´s pupils.

Her irises look light gray for the same reasons; they overlapped the white part of her eyes during motion blur.

Watch this video very carefully again and you will get it. Pay attention from 00:19 to 00:21.

Cheers,

Raf.

[GoodETxSG]

I agree with RMorgan. This seems to be the case with all of these types of videos. Personal cloaking devices aside, the physical chameleon morphing or changing with an eye flicker to a vertical slit etc... I am not sure what to make of these videos to tell you the truth. I have heard of the recessive or dominate gene’s trading off in a sudden physical trait change as one of the theories. But if there was an individual who was a hybrid Human/Reptilian there has to be more to it than just an emotional… hormone or chemical change causing the break down in their camouflage.

[seantimberwolf]

Sorry guys but i just dont think this is frame rate.
There is a colour change and shape change.
Also if you look up Nicki Manaj on youtube you can see she is a puppet she shows off the normal illuminati handsigns.
Hand over the eye, triangle, alter singing ego, its evil stuff.

[wynderer]

I agree with RMorgan. This seems to be the case with all of these types of videos. Personal cloaking devices aside, the physical chameleon morphing or changing with an eye flicker to a vertical slit etc... I am not sure what to make of these videos to tell you the truth. I have heard of the recessive or dominate gene’s trading off in a sudden physical trait change as one of the theories. But if there was an individual who was a hybrid Human/Reptilian there has to be more to it than just an emotional… hormone or chemical change causing the break down in their camouflage.

Seantimberwolf, i could see the vertical pupil at the beginning -- but i also have never been convinced that these videos are not just some odd camera angle or something

my understanding is that it is only very hi-ranking Reptilians -- & very few of them -- who actually shapeshift -- they do this by drinking Human blood & maybe they have other things they have to do to keep their human form intact -- i know that King Anthony is certain that there are no actual shapeshifters -- i'd thought i'd seen someone shapeshifting once, but i think what i saw was what King A described -- a Reptilian kind of overpowering the Human mentally/astrally -- i did see this person growing/manifesting a tail, & he was waddling very ungracefully -- also he began to look like a Reptilian

but i don't think the hybrids shapeshift -- the whole point of making them is that they look fully Human, w/minds controlled by their Reptilian DNA

just my thoughts -- this subject is a tough one to find the truth about

[Sidney]

My first thought when I saw this was, that she is so perfect, she doesn't even look real. Im not buying the blur explanation, especially because she started rubbing her eye like maybe she knew it may have gotten caught on film. Thats my opinion anyway.

[seantimberwolf]

My first thought when I saw this was, that she is so perfect, she doesn't even look real. Im not buying the blur explanation, especially because she started rubbing her eye like maybe she knew it may have gotten caught on film. Thats my opinion anyway.



It does seem to coincidental that she rubs her eyes, also its in hd, so cant just blame motion blur, im open to any explination except that one,
she even looks strange, very disproportionate.

[meat suit]

Sean,

I am surprised a down to earth guy like you is falling for this.....
as Raf says above, frame rate...

[BlueGem]

Sorry guys but i just dont think this is frame rate.
There is a colour change and shape change.
Also if you look up Nicki Manaj on youtube you can see she is a puppet she shows off the normal illuminati handsigns.
Hand over the eye, triangle, alter singing ego, its evil stuff.

I agree that she is part of the puppetry of the music industry. I am always wary of acts like her that come out of nowhere and effortlessly permeate every possible media outlet.

I checked out her song 'Stupid Hoe' after seeing a meme that compares her lyrics to Led Zeppelin. It's beyond words really!

I will have to agree with the frame-rate debunk in this case, however.

[Sidney]

Sean,

I am surprised a down to earth guy like you is falling for this.....
as Raf says above, frame rate...

Everyone has the right to their opinion. So If Sean is down to earth, what am I just some dumb****. Its not the message meatsuit, its the delivery. Maybe its frame rate...maybe shes a reptile, none of us has any proof either way, its just opinions. But its immature to take someone elses opinion and say something disrespectful with it. Just sayin.

[seantimberwolf]

Sean,

I am surprised a down to earth guy like you is falling for this.....
as Raf says above, frame rate...

How can a down to earth guy like me fall for it, because i see the music industry for what it is.
And i see what happened to the ones who tried to break the deal with the devil.
Anyone who denies the illuminati music connextion need only look at Micheal Jackson, Odin keep his soul.
Maybe it might not be a lizard but it could still be a demon or something not normal, every artists talks about "selling there soul" what is that if not becoming something else.

You see frame rate, i see truth, we both see the message, im happy with that friend :)

[Kindred]

At this point in 'the game', I don't know that it matters all that much. I can agree that it may simply be the 'frame rate' issue that causes the appearance of her eyes. However, I will also suggest that, as physics points out, particularly if you watch Nassim Haramein's stuff, our physical 'existence' is Continually being 'renewed'... our 'matter' is traveling at the speed of light, and thus is Constantly In Flux. Only those who have a full understanding of the etheric nature of existence, and can control their manifestation, could produce the necessary effect possibly being exposed here. And, it could be a 'frame rate' issue...

I'm just glad I normally don't pay any attention to these 'personalities' - there's far more interesting things happening, or that I can make happen, than to bother with these distractions from Reality.

Get out and enjoy your Life! (shut the teevee OFF, and LIVE!)

In Unity and Peace

[Seikou-Kishi]

RMorgan, your insight is very thought-provoking. I know next to nothing about videography, so my question might not be a very good one, but is it just a coincidence that the pupils are vertical? If they are an illusion caused by ellipses created by low framerate, is it just a coincidence that the illusion effected by them has such a 'realistic' effect? Is there something that stops the effect rendering horinztonal or diagonal pupils?

[haibane]

Is there something that stops the effect rendering horinztonal or diagonal pupils?
The direction of the eye's movement perhaps?

BTW, for teh sake of Political Correctness, if she actually IS reptilian, should she be called African-Reptilian? Or Reptilian-American? Or African-Reptilian-American perhaps? :confused:

[seantimberwolf]

Is there something that stops the effect rendering horinztonal or diagonal pupils?
The direction of the eye's movement perhaps?

BTW, for teh sake of Political Correctness, if she actually IS reptilian, should she be called African-Reptilian? Or Reptilian-American? Or African-Reptilian-American perhaps? :confused:

lol, the world has gone made!

[haibane]

lol, the world has gone made!

U noticed?
(^__~ )

[meat suit]

Sean,
the music industrie has nothing to do with frame rate transmission issues....
the music industrie (and I am in it, part time) is in dire straights coz nobody is paying for its products.
its entirely possible that illuminati/dark propaganda is being pushed.... but it certainly gets the youtube hits up when you build a bit of symbolism into a vid and then post relevant comments on the conspiricy forums.... I saw elsewhere here today Lana del Ray getting wet with a croc...

zoom out, zoom in, re-focus my friend...

cheers
meat

[seantimberwolf]

Sean,
the music industrie has nothing to do with frame rate transmission issues....
the music industrie (and I am in it, part time) is in dire straights coz nobody is paying for its products.
its entirely possible that illuminati/dark propaganda is being pushed.... but it certainly gets the youtube hits up when you build a bit of symbolism into a vid and then post relevant comments on the conspiricy forums.... I saw elsewhere here today Lana del Ray getting wet with a croc...

zoom out, zoom in, re-focus my friend...

cheers
meat

The msuic industries "financial" situation is in dire straights, but the message it spreads is nothing to do with this.
Sorry but i see it for what it is, like i said in a previous post it may not be a lizard, but i find it strange, same as the umpteen other celebrities and politicians taht "slip up"
Strange how these frame rate issues dont occure on pictures that are old before peopel started seeing it.
Also why does it not happen to Icke, Bill, Willcock, Kerry, etc etc, why does it only happen to shallow celebreties, politicians etc?

[noprophet]

I've edited lots of video and never come across a frame rate effect like this.


he music industrie (and I am in it, part time) is in dire straights coz nobody is paying for its products.

As a producer, people stealing music and the digital revolution is the best thing to happen to the industry since the piano. There's less money and more innovation then we've seen in years and it is wonderful.

Sucks if you expected to retire on an album, but no one should.

[kersley]

I think that maybe Sean has made a good point. Could it be that this video has been released by the reptilians themselves to introduce us to them through our subconsciousness?

[seantimberwolf]

I think that maybe Sean has made a good point. Could it be that this video has been released by the reptilians themselves to introduce us to them through our subconsciousness?

Entierly possible, why do they allow artists to sing lyrics about them, or movies that have them as the bad guys etc.
I would imagine its along the same lines, its all about hidding an elephant in the front room.
I think a great example of this is if you try to awaken a sleeper and mention the NWO and illuminati, and listen and look at the reaction you get, its comical really.

[WhiteFeather]

Is there a link for the video?

[haibane]

I've edited lots of video and never come across a frame rate effect like this.
Thanks - finally someone actually qualified enough to talk about the subject. I wish we got this more often.

[RMorgan]

Hey guys,

I can actually prove my point. I´m sure it´s a motion blur thing, that overlaps the frames of her moving eyes and causes this effect.

You can test this at home, with the following exercise.

1-Turn your as you would do normally, from left to right, right to left an so on, at regular speed, like making a "no" head gesture.
2-Ask a friend or relative to make a movie (with a regular camera in a good lighting condition) of your head while doing step one. Ask him to focus on the eyes and make sure the eyes are well lighten. Don´t look at the camera; look to where your head is pointing.
3-Play the video in slow motion.

There you go. You´ll have this effect.

If you don´t have a camera, you can also try taking regular pictures, but it´s harder to achieve good results because you would have to find the correct exposure time.

Cheers,

Raf.

[wynderer]

I think that maybe Sean has made a good point. Could it be that this video has been released by the reptilians themselves to introduce us to them through our subconsciousness?

Entierly possible, why do they allow artists to sing lyrics about them, or movies that have them as the bad guys etc.
I would imagine its along the same lines, its all about hidding an elephant in the front room.
I think a great example of this is if you try to awaken a sleeper and mention the NWO and illuminati, and listen and look at the reaction you get, its comical really.



yes -- sometimes their faces become pictures of classic mind control -- glazed eyes & silly smiles

[Praxis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGAImmfA7oc
There is the link for anyone who wants to take the time to give it a good several hundred times over.
After having start/stop as frame by frame as I can, I have decided that I believe that this is either real, or has been edited to look that way.
I do not believe that this is a video artifact, especially after watching the whole thing and how clean it.
I am curious at the response that this post has received from others with such quick and easy dismissals.
I am reminded of MiB
No sir, she blinked one set of eyelids and then blinked an entirely different set.
Like high beams and low beams

The brashness with which the media gives us information is astounding.

The time approaches

[wynderer]

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The msuic industries "financial" situation is in dire straights, but the message it spreads is nothing to do with this.
Sorry but i see it for what it is, like i said in a previous post it may not be a lizard, but i find it strange, same as the umpteen other celebrities and politicians taht "slip up"
Strange how these frame rate issues dont occure on pictures that are old before peopel started seeing it.
Also why does it not happen to Icke, Bill, Willcock, Kerry, etc etc, why does it only happen to shallow celebreties, politicians etc?

very good point, Sean -- & even if i couldn't catch what you all are seeing, i have to say the young lady gave me the creeps looking at her, even tho she is technically pretty

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Just to clarify things, I´ve quickly reproduced this effect in Photoshop, using an eye image I´ve got from google.

All I did is to use the motion blur filter and played a little bit with layer overlapping, to simulate the similar effect that happens when you freeze a video of a moving eye.

If I had continued to play with layer overlapping, I would achieve the exact same results, but I don´t have time for it now.

Notice that in this case the iris is brown, but when overlapped during motion, it overlaps the white part of the eye, becoming grayish.

Anyway, I´m sure you´ll get my point now.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/eye-exam.jpg

Now, a screen shot from the video. Notice that you can identify her pupil, her iris and blur. When her eye moves, like it´s represented in yellow, on image two and image three, her iris, in different positions, intersect, creating that ellipse or "reptilian eye":

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/pupil.jpg

Sorry folks, but if reptilians do exist and are among us, using youtube videos isn´t quite a reliable way to find them.

Please, think a hundred times before believing these things we see on the internet. This is quite like a illusionist show; it´s pretty impressive for regular people, but once you learn the tricks it´s usually very simple.

Try to investigate the technical aspects before taking conclusions. Rule out every possibility before assuming something like this is real.

I´m a truth detective for a long time. I´ve seen some UFO videos that look pretty real to me, but found no "reptilian" video that couldn´t be easily explained.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Praxis]

I took a bunch of screens. i hope you enjoy them.
A thought occurs: What if it is not the camera that is blurring, but the person themselves who are actually blurring. Not all the time, but an idea I had not considered before this video.
http://imgur.com/a/seodr
http://imgur.com/a/seodr

[RMorgan]

I took a bunch of screens. i hope you enjoy them.
A thought occurs: What if it is not the camera that is blurring, but the person themselves who are actually blurring. Not all the time, but an idea I had not considered before this video.
http://imgur.com/a/seodr
http://imgur.com/a/seodr

Hey mate,

It´s never the camera that blurs. It´s always the object the is moving that blurs, in this case, the person. Any object that moves while filming will blur in regular frame rates.

Please, see post 28#.

I consider this video 100% debunked.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Praxis]

Raf,
How come all the rapid changes in directions in her eye movements do not display this effect?
What causes the effect to occur and or not occur?

[Praxis]

I had a jolly good laugh at that post. Not the debunked part, but the assertion that it is the object that is blurring.
I do not think you have it quite right there. I think you should consider the superman flying around really high and fast in the sky. He looks at himself going 30 000mph, just go with the hyperbole, does he appear to be blurring?
No, it is not the object that is blurring but the failure of the __insert seeing device__ to capture the motion of the object. Thus, the observer from the ground sees a blurring object, superman, travelling really fast but it his eyes that are causing the blurr and NOT the object itself. I want to stress again, that in all point of flight superman can look down at himself and see himself crystal clear, in fact even right through himself!
Basically, what you were saying is that the faster a thing moves the less molecular coherence it has

[RMorgan]

Raf,
How come all the rapid changes in directions in her eye movements do not display this effect?
What causes the effect to occur and or not occur?


Hi again my friend,

Well, motion blur depends on several variables regarding the camera´s configuration and lighting conditions.

To simplify, there´s always motion blur when filming in regular frame rates.The faster the object moves, the longer and more "transparent" is the blur. Also, if the object doesn´t move, but the camera does, motion blur will happen as well.

There are so many variables involved here.

In the image analyzes I´ve posted above, the eye moved only in one axe, the X. In the real world, the eye would move independently from the head and both would move in all three axes, the X, Y and Z, which make the results quite unpredictable.

The girl´s retina possibly reflected light from the artificial lighting, which would also contribute to this "reptilian effect". This is possibly what made her eyes look bluish.

Basically, this kind of motion blur happens all the time when filming, but in different degrees of perceived transparency and length, depending on several factors but mostly the speed of the moving object. When you slow down a video, you can observe this phenomenon much better.

To summarize, believing that this girl has reptilian eyes, is the same thing as moving your hand fast in front of a light and believing that you have a hundred fingers. ;)

Cheers,

Raf.

Ps: Added another sequence from the actual video on post #28.

[truth4me]

Yes, it's in the music. Reptilians,Grey's,the Jinn, shadowpeople,demons throw them all in a hat and pull out one for they all come from the dark side IMO..........

[WhiteFeather]

I found this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxJ23r3SDA Im Not persuaded by Morgans theory as of yet. This critter (Niki) belongs in a snakepit to say the least. Remember her Assclown show at the music awards. She seems highly satanic to me to say the least. And so my spidey sense just tingles whence I look at her. I get the creeps to say the least. I'm siding with the OP as of the moment. Especially with the track record of this entity. Little Red Riding Hood My Ass. For some strange reason I cannot place the video on this post so here's the YT link. If anyone can post it feel free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxJ23r3SDA


http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/under-god/Images/2012_Grammy_Awards_Arrivals_08cc6-083.jpg?uuid=u4ilpFZgEeGtp1GosVbTGg

Little Red Riding Hood and The Pope at The 3 ring circus music awards 2012.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/celebritology/Images/508829148.jpg?uuid=5dVNiFaFEeGtp1GosVbTGg

Niki Minaj levitating at The 3 Ring Circus Music Awards 2012. Seems Satanic to me a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxJ23r3SDA

[RMorgan]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop female singers. These kind of choking themes worked for Madonna, since then everyone is repeating the formula.

Most of these girls are so stupid that they don´t even have intellectual skills to be satanists. They just do everything for money.

Cheers,

Raf.

[WhiteFeather]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop celebrities.

Cheers,

Raf.

You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.

[Virma De Ris]

I took a bunch of screens. i hope you enjoy them.
A thought occurs: What if it is not the camera that is blurring, but the person themselves who are actually blurring. Not all the time, but an idea I had not considered before this video.
http://imgur.com/a/seodr
http://imgur.com/a/seodr

The screenshots definitely look interesting. As a graphic designer I know that you can layout multiple layers that have different effects and blend them out through opacity and other blending modes. Photoshop does this quite nicely. The screenshots that show reptilian eyes look like at least two layers had been supper imposed with the top layer having a motion blur and lowered opacity so the background layer shows through. Still this doesn't explain the gray irises. Maybe more masked layers created that type of color? Anyways I have to point out that this is easily done on static images and the video is composed of moving images (frames).
My question goes to noprophet, can you have superimposed layers running at the same time in a video? Also can you have masked areas on frames? If yes then there is a great possibility that the video has been doctored on purpose to have the girl look like a reptilian.
Real or not the video served its purpose and that is to get our attention.

[Straker]

Having been involved in the film industry and working with computer images/film and video all the time for the past 20 years, I would suggest that as this effect only occurs when her eyes move to the side, it is a motion blur/frame problem, rather than a physical change in her eyes. Yes, it does look convincing, but then again, I could put my wife's face on another woman, and you simply would not be able to tell the difference.

It would depend what type of device captured this video, if it was an iphone or cheap digital camera, then I would say definitely the camera could not keep up with the motion, and so extrapolated the frame in between.

Straker

[RMorgan]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop celebrities.

Cheers,

Raf.

You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.

Hi my friend,

I wish I knew my mission...I working hard to find it, but I assure that there´s nothing to do with anything like internet forums.

Debunking is not a bad word for me. Debunking is essential if used to reveal the truth.

So, if unmasking lies is debunking, I´m indeed a professional one. Or you can call me a better name, like truth detective. Or just just don´t call me any name or label me. Just call me Raf.

I don´t feel conformable to see people believing in lies. If this is a bad thing, well, I don´t know what else could be good.

I have technical knowledge that most people don´t have, so, if I can use it to help, you bet I will; always.

Cheers,

Raf.

[WhiteFeather]

Hey Morgan your buddy just chimed in to defend you. Are you serious!

[RMorgan]

I took a bunch of screens. i hope you enjoy them.
A thought occurs: What if it is not the camera that is blurring, but the person themselves who are actually blurring. Not all the time, but an idea I had not considered before this video.
http://imgur.com/a/seodr
http://imgur.com/a/seodr

The screenshots definitely look interesting. As a graphic designer I know that you can layout multiple layers that have different effects and blend them out through opacity and other blending modes. Photoshop does this quite nicely. The screenshots that show reptilian eyes look like at least two layers had been supper imposed with the top layer having a motion blur and lowered opacity so the background layer shows through. Still this doesn't explain the gray irises. Maybe more masked layers created that type of color? Anyways I have to point out that this is easily done on static images and the video is composed of moving images (frames).
My question goes to noprophet, can you have superimposed layers running at the same time in a video? Also can you have masked areas on frames? If yes then there is a great possibility that the video has been doctored on purpose to have the girl look like a reptilian.
Real or not the video served its purpose and that is to get our attention.

Hi mate,

It´s simple. Think of a video as a sequence of images. Motion blur actually affects opacity/transparency. The faster the object moves, the more it looks transparent. We live in the analogue world. The digital camera capture just a fraction of our actual movements, called frames, and then connects each frame to make the video. The gap between one frame and another causes digital motion blur.

The same thing happens when you move your open hand very fast in front of a light. Your finger will look transparent, just like playing with opacity in Photoshop! :)

Cheers,

Raf.



Hey Morgan your buddy just chimed in to defend you. Are you serious!

Hi again mate,

Well, you´re acting very abnormally. Usually, you don´t behave like this. Is everything all right with you?

I remember you as a very gentle and calm man.

All I´m doing here is investigating this video. There´s nothing wrong with it, as far as I know.

I´m sorry if my behavior doesn´t please you, but I have to ask you to stop assuming things about me or suggesting that a supposed friend is trying to help prove my technical demonstration.

The more people realize that this video has nothing to do with reptilians, the less people will get embarrassed while showing this video to a friend or relative who understands the basic concepts of photography.

Peace,

Raf.

[Straker]

As a quick example, do you see a car without wheels driving through the streets of Prague, or do you see a woman sitting on a blue box?

I created the "world" that you see in this image, in 2d, completely flat in the computer by painting it in photoshop, which was then wrapped around 3d wireframe computer generated blocks and layered spacially, then lit with artificial light, but all done in the computer.

The artificial car appears to drive through the artificial streets, past artificial buildings, but the woman is still sitting on a blue box in a studio.

[Virma De Ris]

Thanks for the explanation! Moving images is something that I don't know much of but I do know that you cannot trust anything with pixels as they can be so easily manipulated.

Cheers to you too!

:)

[East Sun]

Could it be that she had special contact lenses like the ones used in the seventies on tv's Kung Fu.
The part of a blind "Master" had what looked like strange contact lenses. Seems possible.

[RMorgan]

Could it be that she had special contact lenses like the ones used in the seventies on tv's Kung Fu.
The part of a blind "Master" had what looked like strange contact lenses. Seems possible.

Contact lenses would indeed contribute to the effect, since they are made of polymers, which have different incidence angle properties than real eyes. It could make the effect looks more artificial.

However, I don´t think she´d wearing any kind of special contact lens, since she didn´t produce the effect; the camera did.

Cheers,

Raf.

[noprophet]

My question goes to noprophet, can you have superimposed layers running at the same time in a video? Also can you have masked areas on frames?

This is easily possible. You could just use a transparent png even.

I've been browsing various versions of this video and am yet reserving judgement.

//

Watching the original her eye goes from the right to left very quickly. So Morgan's theory is pretty sound.

And just an FYI, she's touching her eye because she was supposedly tearing up during this portion of the interview. She touches her eye several times before this section.

[RMorgan]

My question goes to noprophet, can you have superimposed layers running at the same time in a video? Also can you have masked areas on frames?

This is easily possible. You could just use a transparent png even.

I've been browsing various versions of this video and am yet reserving judgement.

Hey noprophet,

Please, read post #28 then read post #42.

Transparency or opacity isn´t necessary to produce these effects. It´s an inherent effect of every camera with regular frame rates capture.

Only high speed cameras don´t present perceivable motion blur.

Cheers,

Raf.

[truth4me]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop female singers. These kind of choking themes worked for Madonna, since then everyone is repeating the formula.

Most of these girls are so stupid that they don´t even have intellectual skills to be satanists. They just do everything for money.

Cheers,

Raf.For the love of money is the root of all evil..........

[meat suit]

what is really winding me up here is that people (you know who you are) are demonizing a person based on a falsley interpreted video effects... scary....and very worrying....

thank you Raf for patiently trying to educate people.....

meat

[andrewgreen]

Ive seen some photos of myself with Lizard eyes. The music industry is a major part of the matrix but I after considering this for all of one second I'm pretty sure its just the light.

[Ammit]

I sit on the fence with this subject but have some questions.

If it is indeed motion blur and just a thing that cameras do, then, why does it not capture this same effect all of the time?

Why ( part of above question ) will it always show the slit pupils following the correct allignment to the face,, if sat up straight or side on the the camera, the pupil slits always stay the same direction, why is this?

And my last question:, if it is caused by motion blur, then, why does it happen when the eyes are moving slowly in realtime but can only be seen as slits in slow mo.. surely there would be no blur with a slow moving object or eye?

I dont believe or disbelieve, I just need more information to make my mind up.

Ammit

[wynderer]

what is really winding me up here is that people (you know who you are) are demonizing a person based on a falsley interpreted video effects... scary....and very worrying....

thank you Raf for patiently trying to educate people.....

meat

i don't think it is 'demonizing' a person to see their Reptilian characteristics, unless you yourself consider Reptilians to be demonic -- it's a fact, a truth, that Reptilians exist & are here, & that they have created hybrids [w/the valuable opposable thumbs -- needed by musicians as well as for many other 3D endeavors]

i can never see what others see in photos on the net -- but SeanTW did make a very good point, that these odd little things w/faces in the photos/videos seem to appear only on those serving the NWO

[JUS]

WOW this footage has sparked alot of talk! which is great.

My gut feeling says that she is definitely not human and yes she may be a reptilian shapeshifter. I think its odd how she kept touching her eyes as if she was hiding something.

[pickle]

Every time I've seen so-called reptillian eyes (which look more like a pussy cats to me :p ), the eyeball has been at an angle to the camera - meaning, I've never seen a steady, straight look directly into a camera that's resulted in reptili-pussy eyes, so....

...frame rate (causing blurring) and crappy pixelation might give, or contribute to, the optical effects that have people convinced The Invaders are living amongst us, though I (eye?) think it's as simple as this:
The angle that you're viewing the pupil at (the angle the camera and light is pointed at) is distorted by the lens-effect of the conjunctiva and cornea, furthermore, the larger the pupil, the more distortion is apparent (and indeed, she looks like she has large ones *cough*, pupils, I mean).

Furthermore to my last furthermore, there are many people that, as they move their eyes from side to side, the eyes don't move in exactly the same 'rate' (which I think this young lady has), creating a slightly cross-eyed look the further to the side they move their eyes, which is why these people don't have the cute kitty eye look in both eyes at exactly the same time.

That's my theory, and it's a damned fine one if I may so myself - watch the vid again and you'll know I'm right :p



Peace, feel the love!

Pickle

[truth4me]

Did David Bowie think that Andy Warhol was reptilian ? here's an interview that might interest some people.

technoccult.net/archives/category/reptilian/ Scroll down about half way. Very interesting site....

[RMorgan]

what is really winding me up here is that people (you know who you are) are demonizing a person based on a falsley interpreted video effects... scary....and very worrying....

thank you Raf for patiently trying to educate people.....

meat

Yes my friend. This worries me a lot as well.

Even George Kavassilas was accused of being a reptilian by the ignorance inquisition, based on misunderstood digital video concepts:

3Gybd-ljoG8

Well, I guess that´s how this sort of inquisition works anyway.

Picture you going back to the middle age, as a man accused of witchery. By that time, even if you showed hard evidence that you were not a witch, they would burn you anyway.

It´s really impressive how some people are so quick to judge, but so slow to understand.

People must realize that, in order to find the truth, you need to unmask all lies first, then what´s left is probably the truth.

The truth is not a jumping clown screaming "Hey!I´m the truth!! Come and get me!!". The truth is suffocating under hundreds of thousands layers of lies.

In this girl´s case, if she was being judged in a courtroom, accused of being a reptilian, this video would be quickly dismissed as evidence, since any professional photographer could easily explain its technical aspects.

Cheers,

Raf.

[wynderer]

what is really winding me up here is that people (you know who you are) are demonizing a person based on a falsley interpreted video effects... scary....and very worrying....

thank you Raf for patiently trying to educate people.....

meat

Yes my friend. This worries me a lot as well.

Even George Kavassilas was accused of being a reptilian by the ignorance inquisition, based on misunderstood digital video concepts:

3Gybd-ljoG8

Well, I guess that´s how this sort of inquisition works anyway.

Picture you going back to the middle age, as a man accused of witchery. By that time, even if you showed hard evidence that you were not a witch, they would burn you anyway.

It´s really impressive how some people are so quick to judge, but so slow to understand.

People must realize that, in order to find the truth, you need to unmask all lies first, then what´s left is probably the truth.

In this girl´s case, if she was being judge in a courtroom, accused of being a reptilian, this video would be quickly dismissed as evidence, since any professional photographer could easily explain its technical aspects.

Cheers,

Raf.

i'm an abductee, by Reptilians , & have not been treated very nicely by them -- but i don't feel i am insulting someone if i can see that they are are Reptilian -- i have been told by people i respect that i have a lot of Draco DNA -- life experiences seem to support this

if i see Reptilian characteristics in someone else, that's all it is for me -- just seeing that this particular being has strong Reptilian characteristics -- i also know 2 Grey clones in Human bodies -- i don't like or approve of what these particular races/peoples are doing -- but that's not 'demonizing' imo

[RunningDeer]

i'm an abductee, by Reptilians , & have not been treated very nicely by them -- but i don't feel i am insulting someone if i can see that they are are Reptilian -- i have been told by people i respect that i have a lot of Draco DNA -- life experiences seem to support this

if i see Reptilian characteristics in someone else, that's all it is for me -- just seeing that this particular being has strong Reptilian characteristics -- i also know 2 Grey clones in Human bodies -- i don't like or approve of what these particular races/peoples are doing -- but that's not 'demonizing' imo


i have been told by people i respect that i have a lot of Draco DNA -- life experiences seem to support this

Hello wynderer,

This topic is fairly new to me. One of my questions was answered by your post. It’s about an individual and not a race. I think that’s the correct vocabulary for it. My question is that if you have a lot of Draco DNA, does that automatically mean that your whole family has it as well, only in smaller or larger amounts? I ask this because I’m trying to understand my place within my own family dynamics. I believe your assistance will help me let go of some unanswered issues.


just seeing that this particular being has strong Reptilian characteristics

Also, if you can shed light on behaviors, or emotional triggers with someone that has Draco DNA, it would help me. I’m fine with speaking in general terms rather than asking you to reveal about yourself. It doesn't have to be long; even a few descriptive words or phrases would be plenty.

Thanks in advance,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[DarMar]

omg, omg .. not again one of see the truth on youtube vid :\

I played video and as soon that eye movement happened it was very obvious to me that is MOTION BLUR and nothing more or less. Eyes move very fast sometimes and thats pretty normal to see.
and reading below, oh my, oh my... copule of guys that work THAT video compositing/3D jobs try to explain, but noooo that is reptilian shapeshifter came to dance and seduce poor people of earth.

Spare your energy Raf, i agree 200% percent on everything that you said as we do similar jobs. Some people just cant handle their responsibility and blaim on others .. the reptilians are puppeting people! :D
they will eat us alive through songs and youtube!

[MacStar]

To Confuse the Masses, is to further separate them,whether for money,power,fun,to prolong a deeper plot,to perpetuate a fairystory even.

One thing is for sure WTP are not profiting from this "agenda".....well not financially anyway.

If indeed this is a true shapeshifter or not, hitting YooTooob in search fro the answer is profiting for someone.

Many games will be played by many groups for their own benefit in this year of 2012.

Aside thought here in regards to WhiteFeatherBlackCrow's post and add a question:

How many here consider themselves good people?

How many actually have liked the taste of blood(for example a cut licked)?

How many have been into Vampires as kids and after and wondered why?

Who has a rare blood type?

I'm guilty on all counts ;)

The search for "The Puppet Master/s" is a long and profitable one.....if there is one.

Cool thread :)

[wynderer]

i'm an abductee, by Reptilians , & have not been treated very nicely by them -- but i don't feel i am insulting someone if i can see that they are are Reptilian -- i have been told by people i respect that i have a lot of Draco DNA -- life experiences seem to support this

if i see Reptilian characteristics in someone else, that's all it is for me -- just seeing that this particular being has strong Reptilian characteristics -- i also know 2 Grey clones in Human bodies -- i don't like or approve of what these particular races/peoples are doing -- but that's not 'demonizing' imo


i have been told by people i respect that i have a lot of Draco DNA -- life experiences seem to support this

Hello wynderer,

This topic is fairly new to me. One of my questions was answered by your post. It’s about an individual and not a race. I think that’s the correct vocabulary for it. My question is that if you have a lot of Draco DNA, does that automatically mean that your whole family has it as well, only in smaller or larger amounts? I ask this because I’m trying to understand my place within my own family dynamics. I believe your assistance will help me let go of some unanswered issues.


just seeing that this particular being has strong Reptilian characteristics

Also, if you can shed light on behaviors, or emotional triggers with someone that has Draco DNA, it would help me. I’m fine with speaking in general terms rather than asking you to reveal about yourself. It doesn't have to be long; even a few descriptive words or phrases would be plenty.

Thanks in advance,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Hi WhiteCrowBlackDeer -- another member asked me similar questions in a p.m. -- i'll answer them, but not on this thread, as it's off-topic -- i'll pm you when i post it to let you know -- thanks for your interest

an on-topic thought: the vertical pupils [which i did see in the video, but nothing in the time frame being discussed ] -- i'm thinking that the vertical pupils may not necessarily mean that the person has Reptilian genes -- Clifford Stone has identified 57 [? i think] different races of ETs [maybe EDs among them] here on Earth -- i myself do not know if vertical pupils appear only in Reptilians, but it's a good possibility that other races have these pupils

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

I don´t want to derail this thread, but another thing came to my mind.

Why some people always think of a reptilian when they supposedly see a vertical pupil on someone?

I mean, cats also have vertical pupils and they are nice animals. There´s supposedly a cat like ET race out there as well, and they are benevolent. So, why didn´t you called her cat girl, instead of reptile girl?

Koala bears! They also have vertical pupils and they are pretty nice animals! Could she then be a Koala girl?

Oh, and not all reptiles have vertical pupils as well! So, if there really is a humanoid reptilian race, they might have regular round pupils, depending on their evolution process.

And even if there´s a highly technological advanced reptilian humanoid race living here with us, they can cloak themselves to look exactly like us, but they can´t cloak their eyes?

I can even imagine a reptilian scientist saying "Sir, the cloak device is ready, it can emulate any shape you want, you can even touch it and feel it, you can even have sex with a human and she wouldn´t notice the difference, but we have a problem with the eyes...".

Couldn´t they just use a contact lens then?

How about plastic surgery? Most people accused of being reptilians are celebrities and celebrities always do plastic surgery. So, their cloaking device is so real that can even be submitted to plastic surgery, but they have a problem with the eyes....

So, why people first think of reptilians? Is this the result of alternative media brainwashing and fear mongering programming? Or maybe it comes from sci-fi movies, which always represent reptile beings with vertical pupils.

The free interpretation depends on the interpreter´s beliefs, which doesn´t mean the result of the interpretation is correct.

That´s one of the reasons that a good solution usually just can be achieved when the problem is analyzed by a group of different persons, with several creeds and points of view, and even then, the results might not be accurate.

By the way, I have to advice for those who may try to find physical characteristics on people, that might identify them as reptilians. It wouldn´t work.

Do you remember Physiognomy? People tried to identify all sorts of criminals before they commit any crimes, using body characteristics in the past. It obviously didn´t work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiognomy

Cheers,

Raf.

[Praxis]

It puzzles me how ferocious Raf is in trying to disprove.
Raf never really answered some of my questions from earlier:
Please provide me with another example of your explanation of her eyes changing because of blurr. There are plenty of isntances where her eyes attain the same speed so as to cause the effect. Her eyes dart all over
If it is what you say it is: then you should be able to provide other instances of it. Do this and I will believe your analysis (from the same video please to maintain a level of consistency). This should be a simple request.
Do not refer me to post 28 because I do not care. What I would like is another instance in which your theory applies.

Raf, the aggressiveness with which you are pursuing disproving this topic is making somewhat suspect. When anyone seeks to disprove they are entering into a negative realm for me. Prove do not disprove. This is the same reason I really enjoy Judy Wood. She proves what happened to the towers and does not disprove. To be more precise, she does disprove the official and collapse stories, but only by means of providing a proof of what happened. Start from a neutral standpoint and observe and document. I am not sure if reptilians exist, or even if this video demonstrates anything. However, it is another data point that I add to my collection of data points. Not as a "this is fact and the explanation is X"( like with Judy wood because she is right IMHO) but rather in the interesting things that I can not fully explain with my experience or knowledge(notice this word is not belief).

So I will wait for your post with great anticipation to see if you can provide another instance of the same thing that I have provided pictures for. I have no attachment really to the outcome of this thread because either way it does not matter. If they do exist, of course they would manipulate and shape shift to serve their needs and functions. If they dont exist and this is not example, then no big deal I will go back to not knowing or caring about Niki Manaj.

[DarMar]

I must say that im really impressed how little knowledge and idea could make someone to be so shure while fact is he doesnt know nothing in practical way.

Please provide me with another example of your explanation of her eyes changing because of blurr.
Did anyone noticed that change happened while eyes are moving? if eyes would be calm and that happened than it is not motion blur.
But hey, eyes moved so fast from one side to other, which ofc caused MB effect.

If you are so shure that is a reptilian, i would ask you: please provide me more proof than 0.3 split second as movement of eye change. Can you do it please?
if you dont care for post 28, actually about what you care than? ah yes, you've choosen already, ofc.

Raf agressive? really?
Guy is trying to explain technical details as cameras have their limits like incapability of catching cristal clear fast moving objects or if set to automatic changing colors due to white balance issue.
And what i see is bunch of people agressively dismantling that fact and putting singing-dancing reptilian as a fact :)
I guess nobel prize for creating nice thoughts and realityes goes to...

[RMorgan]

It puzzles me how ferocious Raf is in trying to disprove.
Raf never really answered some of my questions from earlier:
Please provide me with another example of your explanation of her eyes changing because of blurr. There are plenty of isntances where her eyes attain the same speed so as to cause the effect. Her eyes dart all over
If it is what you say it is: then you should be able to provide other instances of it. Do this and I will believe your analysis (from the same video please to maintain a level of consistency). This should be a simple request.
Do not refer me to post 28 because I do not care. What I would like is another instance in which your theory applies.

Raf, the aggressiveness with which you are pursuing disproving this topic is making somewhat suspect. When anyone seeks to disprove they are entering into a negative realm for me. Prove do not disprove. This is the same reason I really enjoy Judy Wood. She proves what happened to the towers and does not disprove. To be more precise, she does disprove the official and collapse stories, but only by means of providing a proof of what happened. Start from a neutral standpoint and observe and document. I am not sure if reptilians exist, or even if this video demonstrates anything. However, it is another data point that I add to my collection of data points. Not as a "this is fact and the explanation is X"( like with Judy wood because she is right IMHO) but rather in the interesting things that I can not fully explain with my experience or knowledge(notice this word is not belief).

So I will wait for your post with great anticipation to see if you can provide another instance of the same thing that I have provided pictures for. I have no attachment really to the outcome of this thread because either way it does not matter. If they do exist, of course they would manipulate and shape shift to serve their needs and functions. If they dont exist and this is not example, then no big deal I will go back to not knowing or caring about Niki Manaj.

Hi my friend,

Yeah...I can look aggressive sometimes, but I´m not. I´m just trying to raise important points here, because I just can´t understand how some people take such big conclusions out of a simple you tube video.

Well, about your questions. There are so many variables involved. Some cameras have auto mode, which offers an adaptive diaphragm aperture, exposure time, white balance, etc...

Also, the light incidence plays an important role. When the eye move, the angle of light incidence moves as well, generating bigger or smaller reflections.

It´s really hard to summarize all photographic concepts involved here within just a few lines. If you want to analyze this video with a professional eye, you´d better borrow some books from the library.

If you don´t want to actually study, you´d better trust a professional opinion, like we do on many situations in life.

Don´t get me wrong, but there are many variables here. Also, I speak Portuguese, not English, so my brain gets fried trying to convert all this simple, by relatively complex concepts, to another language. If you speak another language, you´ll know what I mean. Think of a complex thing and try to accurately translate it to another language. You´ll see how hard it is, really.

You´re free to suspect about me, of course, but I´m just a regular guy. I´m pretty much 100% human as far as know and I´m one of the most honest and ethical persons I know. But you´d better be aware that publicly raising suspicion and accusing another person of serious things without proof is a very serious legal matter.

You know, I don´t know what happens to me, but when I see people falling for such a stupid thing, I get pretty emotional indeed. I guess I have a huge detective instinct as well. I just don´t buy things before analyzing them with the whole power of my intellect. It strikes me really hard, seeing people act stupid.

I wish there was more healthy dialectic in this forum. It´s great when you show some evidence and the other person show other equivalent but contrary evidences to refute you, instead of attacking your evidences empty handed, just like you did. Does it hurt do get of the computer for a while and actually study the phenomenon before disagreeing and raising suspicion over another person?

For this and other reasons, I feel like I´m an inch away from jumping out of PA as well, just like many nice and critical folks did.

Anyway, this is everyone´s forum. I encourage you to believe anything you feel inclined to believe. It´s your life, not mine.

For those who just like to attack, empty handed, without a single solid argument, well, all I can say that it invalidates the whole purpose of a healthy debate.

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: And yes, I´ve answered you before on post #33. Next time, make sure to read the thread more carefully.

[ProperLogic]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop celebrities.

Cheers,

Raf.

You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.


I'm not convinced either.. Good point whitefeather!

[RMorgan]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop celebrities.

Cheers,

Raf.

You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.


I'm not convinced either.. Good point whitefeather!

This whole situation is getting quite peculiar!!

I´m trying really hard, but I just can´t understand how people choose to believe that a girl is a reptilian, based on a split second part of a video, than to exam hard technical facts explaining basic image capture concepts, that would probably be accepted in any courtroom of the world!

Now I can see why there are so many absurd reptilian videos on you tube. Because there are some people who just don´t care to believe in absurd and incoherent things!

Seriously, I´m not mad and angry. I´m just perplexed! :doh:

[seantimberwolf]

Does it matter that much guys, I Presented it as a small bit of Possible evidence.
It may. It be real but then again it may, my main concern is the state of the music industry our kids listen too.
I think people are missing the real point hear, that we need to stop payin attention to these soulless idols o music.
Raf if you have been offended by my post I do apologise mate, I never meant to offend you I just presented evidence my main concern is the ultimate message, me I believe she is something not entirely human.
But I'm open to discussion on what that may be as I posted in an earlier thread. Raf may be right he may be wrong but he is entitled to a view as am I and anyone else
Let's not fight over something we cannot settle please friends.
With love
SeanTW

[wynderer]

if your concern is for our children & their music, Vigilant Citizen is doing a very good job of exposing what is going on in the music biz & in other mass media -- the young woman in the video SeanTW posted creeped me out because of the plastic doll look that someone else described -- she looks mind-controlled to me

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/whitney-houston-and-the-2012-grammy-awards-mega-ritual/

Whitney Houston and the 2012 Grammy Awards Mega-Ritual
By VC | February 18th, 2012 | Category: Music Business | 756 comments

The 2012 Grammy Awards took place in a horrible context: the wake of the sudden, mysterious death of Whitney Houston. The show went on nevertheless … but not without a great deal of strange symbols and events that made one thing very clear: There is a definite dark side to the entertainment business. We will look at the facts surrounding Whitney Houston’s death, the symbolic elements of the 2012 Grammy Awards (including Nikki Minaj’s ritualistic performance) and see how the ceremony turned into another mega-ritual.

I had a feeling that in 2012 the occult agenda of the entertainment industry would be kicked in high gear. I was right: In the span of a week, the most important night in sports (the Superbowl – see the article about it here) and music (the Grammys) were infused with ritualistic elements witnessed by millions of viewers. While the Superbowl half-time show lasted only 13 minutes, the ritual surrounding the Grammys lasted for days and its aftermath is still going on as odd facts and accounts regarding Whitney Houston continue to surface in the media.

This article will list several facts and events that took place before, during and after the Grammy Awards that have a symbolic significance in the grand scheme of things. While some of the facts mentioned here might have been the result of coincidence or poor timing, they still came together in one big, classic case of synchronicity. In other words, apparent coincidences sometimes reveal an underlying pattern behind events.

[ghostrider]

just throwing this out there, reptilains are in media, music, hollywood, big money, once you know what to look for, you will be shocked how infested our world is with hybrids. people say ( I can't get that song out of my head) remember in that movie when blah blah, they use mental power to hypnotize the watcher, they can use their influence to manipulate you. just be aware. they are real,

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Just to finish here. I just googled "motion blur eye" and look what was the first thing I´ve found:

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/cb108add8edd6a2fddd584791bfe17b4/l.jpg

This image is from a young man´s myspace account. This account:

http://www.myspace.com/floydaholic/photos/34940589

Look what´s written bellow the picture:

"motion blur made my eye look translucent."

Now, tell me I am wrong with my technical analyzes.

Tell me this isn´t exactly the same effect of the girl´s video on post #1.

Tell me is isn´t exactly the same result of my simulation on post #28.

Of course, you can say this guy is a young reptilian as well, if you want to go on with this thing...

Please, do yourselves a favor and do the test I´ve written on post #24. You´re very likely to achieve the same results.

In case you don´t want to go to post #24, here´s the test:

1-Turn your as you would do normally, from left to right, right to left an so on, at regular speed, like making a "no" head gesture.
2-Ask a friend or relative to make a movie (with a regular camera in a good lighting condition) of your head while doing step one. Ask him to focus on the eyes and make sure the eyes are well lighten. Don´t look at the camera; look to where your head is pointing.
3-Play the video in slow motion.

If you don´t have a video camera, you can also try taking regular pictures, but it´s harder to achieve good results because you would have to find the correct exposure time. If you´re going to try this with your cell phone camera, you´ll have better results in medium to low light conditions.

This is not a game for me folks. When I say I´m a truth detective, I´m serious about it.

I don´t make assumptions. I just give my technical advice when I know what I´m talking about.

If you´re not convinced by now, it´s pure stubbornness.

Cheers,

Raf.

Ps: I ´m accepting some apologies from those who said that I was discrediting this thread for suspicious reasons. Since this is probably my last post on PA, this is your last chance.

[Ellisa]

I do not know who this young woman is, but I wonder if the eye thing could also be due to a contact lens malfunction. I notice that she is poking at her eye in the clip. Someone else may have suggested it, if so I apologise for repetition. I do not think that she is a reptile.

I will now go and google her name.

(How on earth is it pronounced?)

[Dorjezigzag]

I hope certain people learn from this thread, don't be too quick to dehumanise and demonise someone with little evidence. The music business is like any other business, there are good and there are bad people but mostly people in-between. This felt like a witch hunt at certain times and I think certain people really need to reflect on this. Thanks to rmorgan and meat suit and others for bringing sanity into this thread. Thanks for the examples of motion blur, you see all sorts of anomalies when you focus on things which I have observed through extensive professional experience in editing and lecturing in film at University. Digital technology has made this even more extensive, with different compression formats, interlacing, pixel formation. I could go on but I would probably send you all to sleep.

Anyway I think we should end this thread with some compassion for Nicki when you consider the tough childhood that she experienced,


In an interview with The Sun, the 26-year-old Trinidadian-born rapper who grew up in Queens, New York says she spent most of her childhood living in fear of her father who had issues with substance abuse. She opens up to a much greater extent than she has in past interviews.

“All of my young and teenage early years we lived in fear that my mother would be killed by my father. It was ridiculous,” Minaj told The Sun. “My father was violent - physically and verbally. Once my older brother grew up he became the man of the house and started standing up to my father,” she went on to say.

“When I first came to America,” she says, “I would go in my room and and kneel down at the foot of my bed and pray that God would make me rich so that I could take care of my mother.”

And she has.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/01/nicki_minaj_gets_personal_on_sexuality_and_child_abuse.html

[ThePythonicCow]

I´m trying really hard, but I just can´t understand how people choose to believe that ...
Yeah - it gets a bit scary at times, especially when one remembers that one has pretty much the same (mental, physical, spiritual, ...) processing capabilities as other humans who seem to have come to such impossible conclusions.

Then, if you live long enough, you too might get the joy of noticing that even yourself, in various prior times in this life, held positions with firm conviction, which now seem absurd.

... some days it seems that all one can do is chuckle and carry on.

[Praxis]

I hope certain people learn from this thread, don't be too quick to dehumanise and demonise someone with little evidence. The music business is like any other business, there are good and there are bad people but mostly people in-between. This felt like a witch hunt at certain times and I think certain people really need to reflect on this. Thanks to rmorgan and meat suit and others for bringing sanity into this thread. Thanks for the examples of motion blur, you see all sorts of anomalies when you focus on things which I have observed through extensive professional experience in editing and lecturing in film at University. Digital technology has made this even more extensive, with different compression formats, interlacing, pixel formation. I could go on but I would probably send you all to sleep.

Anyway I think we should end this thread with some compassion for Nicki when you consider the tough childhood that she experienced,


In an interview with The Sun, the 26-year-old Trinidadian-born rapper who grew up in Queens, New York says she spent most of her childhood living in fear of her father who had issues with substance abuse. She opens up to a much greater extent than she has in past interviews.

“All of my young and teenage early years we lived in fear that my mother would be killed by my father. It was ridiculous,” Minaj told The Sun. “My father was violent - physically and verbally. Once my older brother grew up he became the man of the house and started standing up to my father,” she went on to say.

“When I first came to America,” she says, “I would go in my room and and kneel down at the foot of my bed and pray that God would make me rich so that I could take care of my mother.”

And she has.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/01/nicki_minaj_gets_personal_on_sexuality_and_child_abuse.html

ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT IS I just think this is interesting and Im not convinced that it is a motion blur thing but this does not automatically imply reptilian shape shifter. If not motion blur something else.

That being said: let us assume that indeed it is a shape shifter of some sort. Why would this be demonising them or dehumanising, unless by this you mean making them not human in which case that would be technically correct? If indeed this is a shape shifting creature it HAS, note i did not use deserves, rights and should be treated in accordance to how all sentient life is treated, or should be treated. This means respect, not abusing, or any other negative thing you can think of. It would simply mean that there are shape shifters among us. Even if this shape shifter were eating humans I would still demand that they be accorded the same respect that ALL sentient beings should be accorded because "before we act let us not become the evil we deplore."

I find Dorj's comments about sanity offensive. When one is presenting a theory with clear backing and solid proof, Judy Wood for instance, then a statement such as this can be made. This is the first instance of this occurrence that has truly made me wonder, not believe or know that it is or is not, but merely wonder. I think many are confusing my desire for evidence, once again like Judy Wood, that moves me beyond the reasonable doubt. I am merely expressing that Raf, although valiant and well met, has yet to do so.

Edit: I look at the myspace page and I can totally see how this would happen with a camera on long exposure. However, drastically different situation with video cameras where the exposure is not that long.

[Straker]

Just to be clear, my view of this footage based on my experience: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1470066/ is that this is motion blur from a digital camera.

However, so as not to upset anyone with strong beliefs that this could be a shape shifting reptilian, I would like to re-assure you that for over 30 years I have been a dedicated UFO/Alien researcher and absolutely 100% believe in them.

If fact, my whole life basically revolves around UFO's and Aliens, and I have spent 12 years producing a feature film titled Antigravity. I also produced a documentary on Bruce Cathie, I have a TV series and children's book in progress titled Cosmic Garage, my handle is Straker (from the British TV series UFO), I helped create the Chig Alien costumes for Space: Above and Beyond (with Glen Morgan/James Wong/David Nutter - X-Files) and play the Alien in the series, I won 5 International awards for an Animatronic Alien creature I designed, built and operated, and I have had at least two credible UFO sightings and had physical contact or abductions throughout my whole life, so many that I cannot count.

I also have over 300 books on the topic, and all my DVD's are Sci-Fi or Documentaries on the subject.

BUT...this looks like camera motion blur to me...sorry.

Straker

[Praxis]

Just to be clear, my view of this footage based on my experience: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1470066/ is that this is motion blur from a digital camera.

However, so as not to upset anyone with strong beliefs that this could be a shape shifting reptilian, I would like to re-assure you that for over 30 years I have been a dedicated UFO/Alien researcher and absolutely 100% believe in them.

If fact, my whole life basically revolves around UFO's and Aliens, and I have spent 12 years producing a feature film titled Antigravity. I also produced a documentary on Bruce Cathie, I have a TV series and children's book in progress titled Cosmic Garage, my handle is Straker (from the British TV series UFO), I helped create the Chig Alien costumes for Space: Above and Beyond (with Glen Morgan/James Wong/David Nutter - X-Files) and play the Alien in the series, I won 5 International awards for an Animatronic Alien creature I designed, built and operated, and I have had at least two credible UFO sightings and had physical contact or abductions throughout my whole life, so many that I cannot count.

I also have over 300 books on the topic, and all my DVD's are Sci-Fi or Documentaries on the subject.

BUT...this looks like camera motion blur to me...sorry.

Straker

I respect your input, but I have a question: If this is indeed motion blur on the camera then what causes it to happen sometimes but not all the time. It seems to me that if this is camera motion blur then there should be other instances out there of this. For example, this one got caught because someone had way to much time on their hands. If it is camera motion blur we have to assume that it happens on a consistent basis, note this not now mean that it is frequent. This means that if we look we should be able to find this occurrence if we spend the time to do so, which is not to say that we should.

Is it the limitation of the camera or something more like the perfect storm of frame rate, subject movement, lighting, memory writing malfunction, etc.? Please elaborate on why you think that it is camera motion blur, although I may not understand it right away I will endeavor to do so!

[RMorgan]

9ofClubs,

My friend, you´re stubborn!

Even after a full analyzes on post #28, even after all my technical explanations, even after showing a picture with identical results of the video, caused by motion blur showed at post #72, you still insists that it´s not possible and that´s not the case....

So, here´s a collection of motion blur + long exposure weirdness for your delight. Now, if you say these folks are also reptilians or zombies....well, it´s up to you.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/4.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/3.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/2.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/1.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/rafaelmorgan2/5.jpg

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Raf.

[scootiep]

Hey folks,

Just to finish here. I just googled "motion blur eye" and look what was the first thing I´ve found:

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/cb108add8edd6a2fddd584791bfe17b4/l.jpg

This image is from a young man´s myspace account. This account:

http://www.myspace.com/floydaholic/photos/34940589

Look what´s written bellow the picture:

"motion blur made my eye look translucent."

Now, tell me I am wrong with my technical analyzes.

Tell me this isn´t exactly the same effect of the girl´s video on post #1.

Tell me is isn´t exactly the same result of my simulation on post #28.

Of course, you can say this guy is a young reptilian as well, if you want to go on with this thing...

Please, do yourselves a favor and do the test I´ve written on post #24. You´re very likely to achieve the same results.

In case you don´t want to go to post #24, here´s the test:

1-Turn your as you would do normally, from left to right, right to left an so on, at regular speed, like making a "no" head gesture.
2-Ask a friend or relative to make a movie (with a regular camera in a good lighting condition) of your head while doing step one. Ask him to focus on the eyes and make sure the eyes are well lighten. Don´t look at the camera; look to where your head is pointing.
3-Play the video in slow motion.

If you don´t have a video camera, you can also try taking regular pictures, but it´s harder to achieve good results because you would have to find the correct exposure time. If you´re going to try this with your cell phone camera, you´ll have better results in medium to low light conditions.

This is not a game for me folks. When I say I´m a truth detective, I´m serious about it.

I don´t make assumptions. I just give my technical advice when I know what I´m talking about.

If you´re not convinced by now, it´s pure stubbornness.

Cheers,

Raf.

Ps: I ´m accepting some apologies from those who said that I was discrediting this thread for suspicious reasons. Since this is probably my last post on PA, this is your last chance.

Hi Raf,

Why is this you're last post on PA?

I hope you are not leaving as I regard you as very good poster here on Avalon, I resonate with most of your opinions and I know you are coming from a good place.

I think with all the technical data you have provided here is spot on, and I think deep down most people that disagreed with you at the start of the original thread are now thinking twice due to your technical knowledge and truth seeking but they are either too stubborn or just don’t want to be proved wrong.

To be honest I don’t think you can really prove that she is a reptilian by an uploaded Youtube video as Raf has stated there can be may defects in the quality also there are a lot of clever people out there who can doctor videos before they are uploaded.

I just think she is a very young girl in the music industry who is being used by the powers that were, she is probably totally unaware of all the illuminati symbolism

She is just a young girl looking to do well in the music industry who is in it for the money and fame simple as that.

Raf keep up with the truth seeking and spreading your technical knowledge on issues like this :)

But maybe reptilians are out there or here and she may be one of them, maybe we are all reptilians and we just don't know it :P

all just theory really which could be true or not who knows lol

but there are quite a few people on Avalon who have seen or met reptiles and i do not discount their stories.

[peace]

wow.

while i appreciate the OP and the thoughts behind it:

RM has just broken this down with his technical experience and given solid evidence.

THEN BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE HIM AND YOU WANT SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY, SOME OF YOU ARE ATTACKING HIM. He's just doing what we should all be doing: Being great skeptics

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.

and if we are really talking reptilian agenda's, well, it sounds like some of you on the side of "this is reptilian" are acting as they would and you should be ashamed. I am for you, for sure.

The day we can't ask questions and give our own expertise on a subject and are ATTACKED is a very, very bad day for PA.

[RMorgan]

Scootiep,

I was just frustrated, that´s why I was leaving. But after chatting with some friends here, I´ve changed my mind.

You know, I always try to show evidence of my claims, to make sure people don´t fall for stupid and unclear concepts.

However, whenever I do that, most of the times I´m attacked from all sides.

Looks like some people don´t want to know THE truth. They want to believe THEIR truth. Sometimes, they want it so badly, that they just refuse to see the obvious, and then, they attack.

This is not healthy for anyone. In any serious debate, evidences are presented by both sides. When one side shows evidence and the other just attacks, it invalidates the process and makes it pointless.

I want to make clear that I do believe in ETs and I do believe some other races are living with us. However, lots of so called "evidence" are just fake, misunderstood and misinterpreted. I don´t want to believe in lies, but some people do.

In this reptilian subject, I´m yet to see any evidence that can´t be disproved easily and coherently, with solid and well defined evidence.

If one day I see an evidence about reptilian humanoids that look genuine, you bet I´ll use the same technical knowledge to prove it´s genuine.

I´m completely unbiased here. All I want to know the truth.

Cheers,

Raf.

[peace]

Hey White Feather,

Come on my friend...It is not a theory. I have clearly demonstrate it on post #28.

Tell me one reason my technical analyzes is wrong and I´ll believe she´s a reptilian. Just on reason.

Anyway, everyone is free to believe what they want, even if the facts show they are wrong.

I´m not saying that reptilians don´t exist. I really don´t know if they do or not exist. I´m saying the this video is easily explained using just very simple and basic cinematography concepts.

This girl (I don´t even know who she is) is just imitating Madonna, like 99% of other pop celebrities.

Cheers,

Raf.

You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.

this is the worst thing i've ever read at PA.

[aceninja]

If you just look at the video you can tell she is emotional. When you tear up your vision is obstructed by the tear. Try putting a drop of water on printed wax paper or snack packaging. The text under it gets distorted because of the shape of the water droplet. Depending on the angle of the camera when you have tears in your eyes your pupils can look weird in a camera. In combination with lights from the set that can easily create weird eye effects. If you flash light in the sides of your iris you can take a picture and get the same weird glow effect when you take a picture of a dog or cat.

The thing that disturbs me a bit is that no one picked up on the fact that she is about to cry. That seems to be a common theme. Someone with watery eyes is suddenly a reptile. How about everyone do an experiment and video tape yourself about to cry with studio lights. When you move your head around the water and light together will distort BOTH your vision and the vision of the camera because it is a flat 2D surface interpreting a complex 3 dimensional object. You probably wouldn't catch it with the naked eye because it is 3d capturing a 3d object.

With all that said, she still could be "in" or have something in her. Videos of pupils just don't prove it, unless you look at the cat eye lady from France (they didn't flicker, they were a constant slit but she was still very pretty). We all may have that trait. A good rule of thumb: If your own vision gets impaired, your eyes will look weird on camera.

[Hervé]

To Raf and all genuine, sincere, fact based truth seekers of this universe who get a run-in with their contemporaneous church representatives (trolls, nowadays) who are more intrerested in forwarding the church's dogma than having a real hard look:


https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1puWrFn3JDp9rzjsnEe6HBMeC9ySpT0CpkyW03kj_nZuTeHTlW_HMDAvxTmjCy-_c9nefRb_EpEXDJoKGXTAmmlA/galileo-telescope-church.gif?psid=1



Guess from whom real progress developed?

[Virma De Ris]

Whoa! I can't believe the amount of discord over a YT video!!! Such a shame...

@Raf: Don't leave because not everybody understands your POV. They have the right to believe what they want the same way that you have that right. There is a lot of people here like me that understand your point. You have great knowledge and it would be a shame if you leave over what is really a trivial thing.

@SeanTimberWolf: Thanks for the post and I am really glad that you question everything since this is the only way to grow. Thanks to your post I learned about video techniques and the many interpretations people can have about what they see.

@everybody: The video could be authentic or could be fake but what matters is the intended action which is to get your attention (your focus/energy) something that was successfully achieved by the person who captured the video in the first place with or without intention. It is subtle manipulation... IMHO.


Have a great day!

[RMorgan]

Whoa! I can't believe the amount of discord over a YT video!!! Such a shame...

@Raf: Don't leave because not everybody understands your POV. They have the right to believe what they want the same way that you have that right. There is a lot of people here like me that understand your point. You have great knowledge and it would be a shame if you leave over what is really a trivial thing.

@SeanTimberWolf: Thanks for the post and I am really glad that you question everything since this is the only way to grow. Thanks to your post I learned about video techniques and the many interpretations people can have about what they see.

@everybody: The video could be authentic or could be fake but what matters is the intended action which is to get your attention (your focus/energy) something that was successfully achieved by the person who captured the video in the first place with or without intention. It is subtle manipulation... IMHO.


Have a great day!

Hi my friend,

I agree with you.

However, what I am trying to explain here, is that this isn´t a matter of beliefs.

The video itself is 100% genuine, however, it´s just a video of a girl. Nothing more, nothing less. There´s nothing about reptilians here. This is not my belief. This is a fact.

Beliefs end when facts start. The field of knowledge and the field of beliefs are completely different animals. The ability to distinguish facts from beliefs is called discernment.

I don´t discuss beliefs. I have mine, you have yours, and probably we´re both far from the real truth.

This is not the case. This is in the knowledge field.

Some people believe in these reptiles creatures, others don´t. Who´s right? I don´t know.

Some people report to have had close experience with them. Who am I to question their experiences? I wouldn´t even dare.

This discussion is not about the existence of such beings. It´s only about this video, which, just like all other "reptilian" videos I´ve seen, can be easily disproved using simple concepts, usually photographic concepts like motion blur, low frame rate, automatic camera features, compression algorithms, compression artifacts, video encoding/decoding and so on, leaving no margin for disagreement.

Unfortunately, 99.5% of supernatural related videos on you tube are either fake or the result of misinterpretation. Frankly, I don´t care. The other 0.5% are enough for me. What I do care is about my abilities to filter the lies, so I can begin my investigations from there, just like any detective. Any case made upon lies is an empty case.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Dorjezigzag]

You have no reason to be offended I have never questioned your sanity

Notice I said bring sanity to the thread. The Thread is a discussion involving several people, that hopefully deepens are understanding of a subject. The individuals involved in the thread are not the thread, the thread is an abstract entity that is formed in peoples memories and imaginations and added to the thread. Everyone has what may be defined as insane thoughts at times and that does not necessarily make them insane, although as I have sadly seen too many times it can.

On the other hand calling a young girl an evil lizard shapeshifter with little evidence is offensive, so perhaps consider that feeling you felt when you felt offended . You are not critiquing an argument as I was, you are critiquing and defining a person (a human being!) differently to how she defines herself, with emotions and vulnerabilities which you may wish to consider in future.

Perhaps you consider that as she has been named called and abused for much of her life she is fair game. Or maybe because she is a celebrity you consider her to be somewhat ‘other’ and up there to be knocked down, but I’m sorry this is offensive and abusive. I know the fact that the mainstream media likes to insult and degrade but this is supposed to be a spiritual forum with consideration and compassion.

The thread was not about do lizard alien reptiles exist, it was about is Nicki minaj a lizard without any suitable evidence being presented.

Nicki would probably find the whole thing hilarious and I am sure the record company is happy with all the extra youtube hits but on the other hand she may be hurt and confused. I know that JessieJ, a pop star from the UK was quite disturbed by some of the things that have been written about her on conspiracy forums.

The insane consideration is an important one though as although most people visiting project Avalon are of pretty sturdy mental fibre, there will be a few that have unfortunately lost their grip on reality. It is an open forum viewed by the public, statistically it is likely.

The whole dehumanising and demonising members of celebtity and pop culture is not a new one. Manson believed in what he called "Helter Skelter," a term he took from the song of the same name by The Beatles. Manson believed Helter Skelter to be an impending apocalyptic race war, which he described in his own version of the lyrics to the Beatles' song. He believed his murders of celebrities would help precipitate that war.

Chapman's motivations and mental health are complex. He had suffered from mental health problems for years and had become obsessed with the political message of Lennon's music. He was incensed by Lennon's "bigger than Jesus" remark, calling it blasphemy. He later stated he was further enraged by "God", and "Imagine." He was angry at the incongruity he saw between Lennon's lyric "imagine no possessions" and Lennon's personal wealth.[14] Chapman even sang the song with the altered lyric: "Imagine John Lennon dead."

Can you not see that perhaps an unhinged person could get hold of this Nicki Minaj is an evil lizard statement and make some kind of action on it.
By the way I have noticed that a lot of posters have refered to Nicki Minaj as ‘it’ and ‘that’, remember she is a human being and should be respected as such .
Also if you think that shape shifting is an ability that is restricted to evil lizard aliens I know from experience this is not the case. There is a long history within countless cultures of those humans that have had the ability to shapeshift. Many of them using this ability for the benefit of others. So lets not dehumanise shape shifters either!



I hope certain people learn from this thread, don't be too quick to dehumanise and demonise someone with little evidence. The music business is like any other business, there are good and there are bad people but mostly people in-between. This felt like a witch hunt at certain times and I think certain people really need to reflect on this. Thanks to rmorgan and meat suit and others for bringing sanity into this thread. Thanks for the examples of motion blur, you see all sorts of anomalies when you focus on things which I have observed through extensive professional experience in editing and lecturing in film at University. Digital technology has made this even more extensive, with different compression formats, interlacing, pixel formation. I could go on but I would probably send you all to sleep.

Anyway I think we should end this thread with some compassion for Nicki when you consider the tough childhood that she experienced,


In an interview with The Sun, the 26-year-old Trinidadian-born rapper who grew up in Queens, New York says she spent most of her childhood living in fear of her father who had issues with substance abuse. She opens up to a much greater extent than she has in past interviews.

“All of my young and teenage early years we lived in fear that my mother would be killed by my father. It was ridiculous,” Minaj told The Sun. “My father was violent - physically and verbally. Once my older brother grew up he became the man of the house and started standing up to my father,” she went on to say.

“When I first came to America,” she says, “I would go in my room and and kneel down at the foot of my bed and pray that God would make me rich so that I could take care of my mother.”

And she has.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/01/nicki_minaj_gets_personal_on_sexuality_and_child_abuse.html

ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT IS I just think this is interesting and Im not convinced that it is a motion blur thing but this does not automatically imply reptilian shape shifter. If not motion blur something else.

That being said: let us assume that indeed it is a shape shifter of some sort. Why would this be demonising them or dehumanising, unless by this you mean making them not human in which case that would be technically correct? If indeed this is a shape shifting creature it HAS, note i did not use deserves, rights and should be treated in accordance to how all sentient life is treated, or should be treated. This means respect, not abusing, or any other negative thing you can think of. It would simply mean that there are shape shifters among us. Even if this shape shifter were eating humans I would still demand that they be accorded the same respect that ALL sentient beings should be accorded because "before we act let us not become the evil we deplore."

I find Dorj's comments about sanity offensive. When one is presenting a theory with clear backing and solid proof, Judy Wood for instance, then a statement such as this can be made. This is the first instance of this occurrence that has truly made me wonder, not believe or know that it is or is not, but merely wonder. I think many are confusing my desire for evidence, once again like Judy Wood, that moves me beyond the reasonable doubt. I am merely expressing that Raf, although valiant and well met, has yet to do so.

Edit: I look at the myspace page and I can totally see how this would happen with a camera on long exposure. However, drastically different situation with video cameras where the exposure is not that long.

[markenty13]

it is a bit strange how her latest single is called "Starships"

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[seantimberwolf]

Sorry for my late repays on my own thread I work allot,
I think allot of people on this thread owe Morgan an apologies. He has proven his point.
I'm glad he posted the info, I was not concerend if he "disproved" my theory I just found the info and wanted to share it with friends,
Thanks to every one for the input, but let's not forget what it is we do hear at PA.
We look for truth and guidance this has been offered, embrace it,

With love Seantw

[Peace of Mind]

Just the simple fact that this short vid was edited pretty well (music/slow motion,etc) is enough for me to have doubts. If I put out this vid… I would have left it in its original format and let the people decide from there. Clearly someone went a little out of their way to make a simple short clip a production project. You can buy some very good special effects software these days…it’s no longer for the professional film industry.

Peace

[seehas]

yes many people declare everything to be compression artifacts thats like some others declare all ufo-videos to be fake , right now the shapeshifting theories are a bit like ufology in the 80s most people get laughed at but i tell u this will change.

when i was young i saw a ufo in the sky and with me like 30 other kids. same with shapeshifting i saw this live and i belive for myself its existing, but that doesnt mean all videos are legit also ;)

and by the way not all shapeshifters are evil and diabolic dont start a witchhunt please !:biggrin1:

[ThePythonicCow]

I added the qualifier "(debunked)" to this thread title.

It looks to me like we almost lost a good member over this thread, in part due to some ad hominem replies.

I didn't notice what was going on until after it had all blown over (even though I have some random post some where above on this thread.)

So I will leave the thread as is, except for the title change.

Please distinguish between respectful comments on the contents of other posts, versus disrespectful comments on the motives or other qualities of other posters.

[Tane Mahuta]

Please excuse my ignorance...

But who is Nicki Minaj??...

another "chic flick" who sold her soul??

Fellow avalonians, don't give them any energy!!
TM

[Straker]

Here is the phenomenon in a simple picture I just made.

At the top you can see the individual frames, and the frame rate can change depending on the setting and type of device. If you speed up the frame rate, you can make time appear to slow down, like in the films, when everything goes into slo-mo. Slow down the frame rate, and you start to miss out on small fragments of time.

Notice where frame 4 would be in the transition of the iris movement.

Straker

[meat suit]

Here is the phenomenon in a simple picture I just made.

At the top you can see the individual frames, and the frame rate can change depending on the setting and type of device. If you speed up the frame rate, you can make time appear to slow down, like in the films, when everything goes into slo-mo. Slow down the frame rate, and you start to miss out on small fragments of time.

Notice where frame 4 would be in the transition of the iris movement.

Straker

most excellent Straker!
if anybody in doubt please look at this grafic and think of it the next time you watch 'reptilien by frame rate' videos....

I highly suspect that amongst all the ET races there are some bad motherf###er reptoids who have been f###ing thing up for us here, but while I have been looking for them, I have yet to find any convincing picture or video anywhere.....

we are looking for truth here...not trying to replace the mainstream hallucination with another one...

cheers
meat

[UnrealDreams]

In this world of duality, everyone has their own reality, and their own truths. Just don't allow a Youtube video to upset you and lower your vibrations.
Cheers!!
And love to all.

[MMA_Fan]

It's not only people who have been accused of being "NWO types" that have their eyes distorted;

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I'm sure if you looked around the web you would find many more digital eye glitches of everyday folk.

[Dorjezigzag]

Please distinguish between respectful comments on the contents of other posts, versus disrespectful comments on the motives or other qualities of other posters.

I totally agree but can we go further than this?
What about disrespectful comments directed towards Nicki Minaj just remember she is not here to defend herself, do you think that she deserves an apology, or is our sociopathic programming so ingrained that we cannot feel any empathy towards her?
Interesting that the post straight after your one from Tane mahuta who I usually have utmost respect for
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But who is Nicki Minaj??...

another "chic flick" who sold her soul??

Fellow avalonians, don't give them any energy!


Why the reference to ‘chick’ is her sex important? to me this reeks of misogyny, lost her soul? Don’t give ‘them’ your energy who exactly are ‘them’. To me sounds like us and them, wasn’t the belief on this forum that we are all one that we are all connected.

Nicki Minaj deserves are empathy and compassion not our demonization and contempt.
I will always give my energy to defend those who are being singled out for being ‘wierd’ and being bullied.
I belief in a world where we celebrate our differences not some Orwellian Homogeneous nightmare.
O.k I am going to lighten things up a bit now with a really 'wierd' video from a South African collective called Die Antwoord. It is not my usual musical taste but it celebrates difference and has a sense of humour.
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[Straker]

Well said Dorjezigzag,

I do agree that many of us have been slowly conditioned to accept this as the norm. Here we sit in the relative comfort and antisocial position of our computer terminals, without any physical interaction or any way to relate with the others we are typing to. We are simply cut off and alienated, which gives us the false impression that we can say whatever is on our minds without consequence.

There is no way to read the true intention, as there are no feelings or vibrations attached. A well meaning comment can be easily taken as an insult, and vice-versa.

Friends, we are all here to share our collective experiences and consciousness in the hope of enlightenment for all.

I must say that this is the reason I do not own a mobile (cell) phone, and do not text people. When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, there were no mobile phones, no internet, no chat rooms, no texting, no home computers or ipods...

There was the Atari and Commodore 64, or if you were lucky an Amstrad, but mostly there were better things to do like ride your 3-speed Malvern Star dragster (the Australian equivalent of a Schwinn Stingray)

I don't know who Nicki Minaj is either, but then who needs to know anything these days, we just google everything...as though google has become the collective consciousness and knower of all things...

However, I do know that she has a mother and father that love her very much, just as my parents love me without question, and I love my own children with all my heart.

When I was single, I worked on a few films that I would not work on now as a father. House of Wax and See No Evil for example.

These films, along with movies like Wolf Creek are irresponsible. They desensitise us from the truth that we are paying to watch some sick person brutalizing someones child. I simply cannot bear to watch that type of film any more.

And that, my friends, is the problem we have with the war machine these days. The government takes single guys, breaks their willpower, trains them up with aggressive music and video game simulations, brainwashes them into thinking there is an enemy, and then sends them out to another country without any connection to the preservation of life, or what it means to raise a child.

I was very moved recently when I watched this video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjuUoEivbE

Straker

[apollo41]

That is definitely not motion blur?
I agree with you Sean,..the vibrational change is being implemented over a gradual period? its hard for them to hold their form.
The thing about these forums? not just this one? is i can guarantee, there are numerous people who try to debunk this sort of evidence? simply because they are working for????? or maybe they themselves are reptilians....

Seek And Ye Shall Find??????????????????????????

[East Sun]

This is typical manipulation tactics by the 'industry' as can be seen in the symbols and words of the brainwashed performers. It is easy for them to use movie techniques to make a person look the way they want.

Don't be fooled by them as they treat viewers as fools.

[OnyxKnight]

it is a bit strange how her latest single is called "Starships"

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Yes, and Pharrell Williams is a Star Trek fan. Maybe he is a Vulcan hybrid?

Have you also checked the latest album from the Black Eyed Peas?

I can give you a whole list of examples of musicians from Europe, who you probably have never heard of before, who are nothing as big as Nicki Minaj or Lady GaGa, but do the same things.




What about 'Starship', a musical by Team StarKid? I think it came out last year.

Starship is also an album by the group 'Zion I', and there is also a band called Starship that formed in 1984.

Perhaps you remember "The Starship"? The craft used by Led Zeppelin in the 70s ?






Why don't you put these into the conspiracy wagon?


What is it? Are Led Zeppelin holding some saint status?


And the rest, maybe you don't know them like we know Britney, Beyonce, Lady GaGa, etc.?



Did David Bowie think that Andy Warhol was reptilian ? here's an interview that might interest some people.

technoccult.net/archives/category/reptilian/ Scroll down about half way. Very interesting site....

And what factor is David Bowie? He has also been claimed to be a reptoid himself. He also has a song called "Reptile", which he sings together with "Nine Inch Nails".





I'm not convinced either.. Good point whitefeather!

Then you are not using proper logic, ProperLogic.




You have not convinced me bro. And your mission is out to debunk the crap out of Avalon it seems as of late. Ufo videos etc. you name it. Your starting to give me the Willie's as well. Hope this Helps. My 6 fingered friend.

Debunker and skeptics differ in two things - debunkers try out their way to make something align with their line of thinking. Skeptics remain with that viewpoint until something presents itself, and changes that viewpoint via evidence/facts.

I think he is a skeptic, and judging by what I have seen, justifiably so.


I found this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxJ23r3SDA Im Not persuaded by Morgans theory as of yet. This critter (Niki) belongs in a snakepit to say the least. Remember her Assclown show at the music awards. She seems highly satanic to me to say the least. And so my spidey sense just tingles whence I look at her. I get the creeps to say the least. I'm siding with the OP as of the moment. Especially with the track record of this entity. Little Red Riding Hood My Ass. For some strange reason I cannot place the video on this post so here's the YT link. If anyone can post it feel free.

You are acting weird lately too. What's with all the insults towards people you don't even have a clue about? There's a hatred vibe in your posts that is unfounded (not that hatred ever is or should be for that matter). You need to chill and recollect on this. Your reaction is worrying ..... to say the least (as you put it).


Niki Minaj levitating at The 3 Ring Circus Music Awards 2012. Seems Satanic to me a bit.

Oh really? Seriously? Now levitation is considered satanic?


What if Tibethan monk was doing it? Suddenly it would be okay, and a result of spiritual mastery?




The msuic industries "financial" situation is in dire straights, but the message it spreads is nothing to do with this.
Sorry but i see it for what it is, like i said in a previous post it may not be a lizard, but i find it strange, same as the umpteen other celebrities and politicians taht "slip up"
Strange how these frame rate issues dont occure on pictures that are old before peopel started seeing it.
Also why does it not happen to Icke, Bill, Willcock, Kerry, etc etc, why does it only happen to shallow celebreties, politicians etc?

No, you are not telling it like it is unfortunately, Sean. I hate to see somebody who used to warn people of encountering bull**** and having a bad sense of discernment, stoop down to this level and entertain shapeshifting reptoid videos of youtube. I mean for real, out of all the things, you went that way?

These people do not have a clue what they are doing. I can tell you that with 100% guarantee. They are clueless. Every rising star gets assigned with PR coach, media coach, coreography coach, image coach, etc., etc. people who tell them what to do, about everything, that would get them further up the fame ladder. You think Britney Spears has any clue what Illuminati means? That chick doesn't even know what Global Warming is. She is that clueless. The team of coaches and specialists are those who push the whole thing, but they are not the real reason behind all this weird stuff in the celebrity's behavior, image, videos, "character" etc. - They are following trends! That is all!

Just like in fashion, something becomes popular, everyone starts to copy it. Depends who is the better trend setter, to make it go faster or spread further out. Notice many start to involve cybernetic themes in their videos. You think that is also some conspiracy? They saw it first in someplace else, watched the results, and decided to copy it. That's why you have Lady GaGa copying certain stuff from Madonna, and now you have a bunch of upcoming artists, imitating Lady GaGa, Nicki Minaj being a slightly more popular example then the rest. Those are the things being recycled right now. And that's what 95% of the music business is all about - 95% recycling, 4% product placement, 1% originality.

I can also tell you, that as a person involved, and privy to some projects in the music business, that all this alleged symbolism was not something deliberately done at the start of things. Many artists like to input private things, intimate thoughts and concepts, and even visuals, to their creations. So, a music video producer/director, would insist on certain things with the artist. Then you guys misinterpret that as something sinister, then they watch the reaction, generating more views and popularity, so they add more of the same, and start to borrow things form the conspiracy side.

That's why, its not humans being able to better perceive the messages being delivered through music videos, but video directors being better at learning what would generate more views, without too much controversy that could be damaging to their client. So they inject more conspiracy stuff in that.

Same goes for music producers, or the graphic artists who make the music posters. As a team, they see what they have to do, and do it.

I know for example, that I have used the owl in some brochures I've made - It was immediately associated with the Bohemian Grove. Nobody bothered to think that maybe, just maybe, the owl has a different meaning for me, and a very deep, intimate one at that. Nothing sinister really, just my way of expression of something. But did it cause controversy? Yes. Did it make people associate it with various conspiracies? Yes. Would I change the theme next time? No. Simply, I know why I have put there that owl, people can think what they want.

Its the same here, with all of these so called red alarm elements in music videos.

[RMorgan]

THANK YOU, OnyxKnight!

Cheers,

Raf.

[Straker]

That is definitely not motion blur?
I agree with you Sean,..the vibrational change is being implemented over a gradual period? its hard for them to hold their form.
The thing about these forums? not just this one? is i can guarantee, there are numerous people who try to debunk this sort of evidence? simply because they are working for????? or maybe they themselves are reptilians....

Seek And Ye Shall Find??????????????????????????

Hi apollo41,

I think it rather odd that you would suggest that myself or others here are either working for 'them" or are reptilitans ourselves...I mean, come on...get a grip. Some of us have backgrounds in graphic art and film, and are offering a possible solution to this phenomenon.

I have very good friends that have seen in real life, shape shifting beings, and I myself have had several unexplained encounters, including being visited in the middle of the night by MIB with a black truck. I believe 100% in aliens and UFO's.

But I most certainty do not work for anyone but myself, and sorry to say, no green skin or slitty eyes here my friend...I think my kids would have noticed if I did.

Regards
Straker

[DarMar]

Yes, you nailed it, we are dark reptilian forces working for singing reptiles! :cell:

Now serious, can someone explain to me how come that poor girl is sent to control lets say my mind when i didnt even watched TV for ages and i didnt even knew who that person is untill Sean linked that vid here?
Than i read from posts below she is some popular singer now with some disturbing past and thats all..
How can she control my mind when i DON'T WANT IT TO BE CONTROLED?
What she can do if i never knew for her existance?
That doesn't only apply to me but whole bunch of my friends who also don't know who that poor girl is?
What she does to us if we dont know and never seen her?

TBH i rather think people that talking she is a reptile are darkforces implating mind pattern in human mind with goal to manifest reptilian rather than the ones which debunks it.
From which point comes will to manifest things like singing mind-controllers?
Have you ever considered that bunch of youtube vids ARE made just for purpose like this to manifest non existing into existing?
Did you know that internet is military technology, same s youtube? What that tells to you ppl? if tells anything...

Now being said that i must hide in under my bed so she cannot beat me with microphone to death or maybe bore me to death with heartless songs..

[wynderer]

bumping this -- i'm not techno-proficient enough to tell if what is seen is real or not -- but Apollo's comments on who some of the debunkers are is spot on, imo



That is definitely not motion blur?
I agree with you Sean,..the vibrational change is being implemented over a gradual period? its hard for them to hold their form.
The thing about these forums? not just this one? is i can guarantee, there are numerous people who try to debunk this sort of evidence? simply because they are working for????? or maybe they themselves are reptilians....

Seek And Ye Shall Find??????????????????????????

[Straker]

So who are the debunkers here? Surely you're not pointing the finger at me, because that would be the most ironic thing I could imagine, seeing as I have spent my whole darn life investigating and participating in the ufo and alien phenomenon...

Anyone who actually knows me would tell you the same thing, but of course...no-one here knows me, so in case you didn't know my website is www.destinypictures.net

I would also suggest that you look at my documentary on youtube titled The Harmonic Code with Bruce Cathie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdBif_7UNfo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFcZyQXnHY

Bruce trusts very few people, and I count myself among those rare few who he has allowed into his home for the past 12 years.

Unless of course he is a reptilian also! Now there's a thought..

I'm all for seeing some actual reptilian shape shifting video, in fact I'd pay to see it...bring it on! However if it's a simple case of motion blur and slow frame rate, then sorry I just don't buy it.

Straker

[wynderer]

Hi Straker -- the agents, including the hybrids & clones, know who they are -- i don't think it would be a good thing for Avalon to start discussing which of us are agents -- Humans are too prone to divide -&- conquer conditioning anyway

perhaps as the new energies keep on getting stronger, it will become easier & easier to tell who among us is Human & who isn't --

i personally don't pick up any Reptilian energy around you, for what that's worth


So who are the debunkers here? Surely you're not pointing the finger at me, because that would be the most ironic thing I could imagine, seeing as I have spent my whole darn life investigating and participating in the ufo and alien phenomenon...

Anyone who actually knows me would tell you the same thing, but of course...no-one here knows me, so in case you didn't know my website is www.destinypictures.net

I would also suggest that you look at my documentary on youtube titled The Harmonic Code with Bruce Cathie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdBif_7UNfo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFcZyQXnHY

Bruce trusts very few people, and I count myself among those rare few who he has allowed into his home for the past 12 years.

Unless of course he is a reptilian also! Now there's a thought..

I'm all for seeing some actual reptilian shape shifting video, in fact I'd pay to see it...bring it on! However if it's a simple case of motion blur and slow frame rate, then sorry I just don't buy it.

Straker

[deridan]

don't ever listen to pop lyrics. must say she is quite hot, really hot.
maybe the real story here is that the vid makes her little boppie hopping fans more amenable to 'rp spirit possession', cause well they've been subliminally indoctrinated into thinking.... "well she is one [rather possessed by one]"

even if she was a rep, no reason to fear that. one would have more credence to fear a hillary clinton who can actually affect something tangible on the world stage

[seantimberwolf]

Ill be honest with you all,
Im not happy with the way this thread has progressed,
I presented information, i was wrong as i have been told over and over again, but still it seems that is not enough.
People have there opinion's, they may not be your's but there someones, so why not respect them.
Present your information, and dont get insulted if people dont want to belive it.
Thats all there is too it, jsut get over it, i started the thread and im not offended but it seems the people who want to debunk the video are the ones getting up tight because some dont want to belive there findings.
Do you treat people with faith the same way?
I did not think so!

Im so close to leaving this forum at this point, not because my thread was debunked, i really dont care about that.
But because of the reaction of everyone who wants to debunk it, its a reverse witch hunt.

It was mentioned that Morgan almost left due to this thread, that was not my intention and the idea is upsetting that all i tried to do was present info and this is how it was recieved.
And as for those who think this is out of character for me, well what does matter, can one not act out of character.
It seems the divide in this forum is getting bigger and i find my self not on either side.
Damned if you do........

[peace]

ha! a good skeptic is now considered a reptile. and this try at guilt "they know who they are" come on. pointing a hostile finger is childish.
and unfair.
being an internet tough guy must be awesome
:nhl_checking:
sean, you're needed around here

[pugwash84]

those lizards get everywhere xx

[Peace of Mind]

This is why i hardly deal with unconfirmed material, It only distracts and cause more division. This artist has her rare way of expression...so some extreme conspiracy theorist feel comfortable labeling her an alien..but the real problem could be their technical prowess is lacking. IMO...I think some people here want this stuff to be true so bad...they sometimes let their best judgement and decernment suffer. You could very well be slandering an innocent girl because of her indifferences. We should know better then this.

I see something special in everyone here, its a shame to see stuff like this constantly keeping us divided. If this VID was true...what will we do? Seeing that it has the potential to be fake more than official...why turn it into something that will wedge the community. We are suppose to look out for each other...that includes having healthy skeptics and honest disclosers. Recognize the intentions of the members. If they are not being responsible with their posting... confusion and conflict may arise. Be aware. Be open minded, but demand facts if the info is meant to change your life. I could never post something that will have you in fear, frustrated, disempoweded...then say I love you. My love for people has me posting from the heart to strangers about our situations....Situations we can prove and work on together.

Peace

[aceninja]

It's okay if people disagree, life would be boring if everyone agreed on everything. Debate is healthy. When people start to insult others that's when things get "unenlightened". I'll proposed a rule of thumb for disagreements. Before commenting make sure you do not do the following: question the intellectual capacity of the person, apply labels to positions/opinions, and no namecalling. Anything else should be fair game. When people can't get through intellectually we have a tendency to attack the person behind the opinion to gain access into their psyche. We want people to agree with us and see things our way. If you can do it intellectually you've either failed to get your point across or the person simply doesn't agree with you.

[pugwash84]

I think about 5% of the world is probably lizard hybrid by now. If these things do shape shift, Then it is not surprising a few of them have been caught. Some of the video's are going to be fake but a good few are going to be real. No smoke without a fire.

[777]

I've seen "people" partially shift myself, but never fully. Whether or not this video is fake is inconsequential to anyone with experience of this very common every day occurence. Pugwash.......I'd go more like 30%!

[Kali Lemorte]

What I'd like to know is how are they gonna pay these "musicians " when the money is gone. My daughter once had an idea. "One day mom there will be no more money. One day people will use seashells to buy things" I love the creative inventive ideas the minds of children come up with.

[Kali Lemorte]

I've seen "people" partially shift myself, but never fully. Whether or not this video is fake is inconsequential to anyone with experience of this very common every day occurence. Pugwash.......I'd go more like 30%!

On a more serious note. I've seen media like this before involving ppl ranging from Obama to the Pope to Madonna. The internet is fulls of crazy stuff. I don't place judgment on the validity of any of these photos. Its very hard with so much out there to discern what is legitimate and what is disinformation. I can say from my own experiences that I have seen ppl partial shift too and its been times during a surge of emotion..whether it be rage or severe depression or anxiety..ect.

[RedeZra]

miss minaj is not a reptilian but she is possessed

don't take my word for it

she says it herself

possessed by the demon Roman


question is if reptilian is the same as demon




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