Locating the points of the Pentagon's Pentagram

[Straker]

For those of you interested, we all know that that Pentagon's shape is derived from a Pentagram, but I decided one day, a few years ago, to try and locate the original markers.

What I found was quite interesting, especially two of the points where they have actually altered the angle of a guard rail, and also trimmed a hedge to fit perfectly.

These are subtle things, and would most likely go unnoticed, but I have included the google earth pics for your viewing pleasure.

Straker

[ThePythonicCow]

I decided one day, a few years ago, to try and locate the original markers.
I don't get it ... my only hypothesis is that you're showing us ariel shots of what was where the Pentagon is, before it was there. But I doubt these are pre-World War II ariel shots. Where are these markers and what do they mark?

[Mister_m]

If you take the pentagon shape and extend the lines out to make a star, these points are where the 5 points of the star would be.

(I assume this is what the OP was referring to).

[Lifebringer]

They may have horcrux under them to keep the spell alive. damage the circle and points and the spell is broken. If they went to the trouble of making sure they were succinct, so mess it up a little and drive them bonkers.

[sdv]

I have a pentagram, enclosed in a circle, tattood on my back. Nothing evil about it - earth, air, water, fire, spirit. It is a symbol of my incarnation here on Earth in this body at this time. I think I am going to get an aerial view of the Pentagan and dedicate each of its corners to one of the elements and thus realign it with harmony on Earth!

[Straker]

Hi Paul,

Just to make it clear, my intention was to find out if there were any "markers" at the points of the pentagram, within which the Pentagon sits. These are google earth pics, not WW2 era, and what I did was to get a large scale aerial photo of the site, then extend the sides of the pentagon until I located the points, then went back to google earth and did an overlay to see what was at those points.

These pictures are what I found there, nothing more, nothing less.

It merely shows that the Pentagon designers have gone out of their way to ensure that the points are "hidden", yet are still there.

Straker

[ThePythonicCow]

then extend the sides of the pentagon until I located the points
So these points are the points of an extended pentagram, that has the same center and orientation as the Pentagon building ?

How did you determine how much larger to make this extended pentagram ?

You say you extended until you "located the points". That makes it sound like those five points determine the extended pentagram, but if that's the case, what determined the five points?

[Straker]

then extend the sides of the pentagon until I located the points
So these points are the points of an extended pentagram, that has the same center and orientation as the Pentagon building ?

How did you determine how much larger to make this extended pentagram ?

You say you extended until you "located the points". That makes it sound like those five points determine the extended pentagram, but if that's the case, what determined the five points?


Hi Paul,

It's pretty easy to do, if you were to use a ruler to extend a line out along each side of any Pentagon until they met at a point, you would have a Pentagram that was confined in size by the dimensions of the pentagon within, and yes these images are the result of my doing exactly that with the actual Pentagon. I was just keen to see if there would be anything there to mark the spot, and I was surprised to find that there was indeed some very striking markers at those points.

As a note to SDV, I haven't actually made any suggestion that the Pentagram is evil or otherwise, so I'm not sure why you mentioned that? I approach things from a purely geometrical/mathematical and artistic point of view.

[sdv]

As a note to SDV, I haven't actually made any suggestion that the Pentagram is evil or otherwise, so I'm not sure why you mentioned that? I approach things from a purely geometrical/mathematical and artistic point of view.

Point taken, and thanks for the pics. I am interested in the symbolic possibilites so could you include compass points for the pic?

[PurpleLama]

Here is a hint, it's the inner pentagon that's most worthy of attention.

Bonus question: where exactly did the plane/missile hit on the outer pentagon? The actual answer may not matter, but the reasoning behind the question may be found in the fictional *cough* novel entitled The Illuminatus Trilogy.

FWIW, I did have a black suv swerve over and almost hit me head on, while typing this post.

[ThePythonicCow]

It's pretty easy to do, if you were to use a ruler to extend a line out along each side of any Pentagon until they met at a point, you would have a Pentagram that was confined in size by the dimensions of the pentagon within,
Aha - now I get it :). That image helps; I was not thinking clearly of the difference between the pentagon shape of the Pentagon and the larger pentagram determined by that pentagon.

Thanks!

[Straker]

Paul: No worries, anytime.

SDV...when you say compass points, do you mean google earth ones?

Purplelama: I'll look up that books, thanks..also, were you texting and driving?

[sdv]

Geogrqaphical North, South, East, West. (So my mention of compass points was fuzzy.) Would be most grateful if you could indicate these. Or is it simply top of pic is North, and so on?

[Straker]

Here is a hint, it's the inner pentagon that's most worthy of attention.

Bonus question: where exactly did the plane/missile hit on the outer pentagon? The actual answer may not matter, but the reasoning behind the question may be found in the fictional *cough* novel entitled The Illuminatus Trilogy.

FWIW, I did have a black suv swerve over and almost hit me head on, while typing this post.


There's a couple of pages in Thomas Anderson's latest book (Cosmic Top Secret) that talks about the missile hitting the Pentagon being fired from a ground based semi trailer parked on the grounds, disguised as one of the vehicles being used for the renovations..

One like this:

[Straker]

Geogrqaphical North, South, East, West. (So my mention of compass points was fuzzy.) Would be most grateful if you could indicate these. Or is it simply top of pic is North, and so on?

Hi, in the picture with the full Pentagon shown, it is exactly as it should be, that is to say the image sides are north at the top, south at the bottom etc. The bottom point of the Pentagon in that image is pointing slightly right of due south.

I've added a pointer to the image.

[Straker]

Well this is interesting...

Fortunately I had those screengrabs from 2008, as I just went back into Google Earth to get some more, and they have changed everything...

The marker has gone, the road barrier has been changed from straight to curved, and they have stopped cutting the hedge on a sharp angle...wierd.

Here's the comparisons.