The Drake Playoffs

[Chester]

The following are fantasy wager opportunities for which we can each set our own odds. I realized how many variables are involved with all the Drake stuff and so I tried to bring forth the ones that stuck out to me the most and pose them in the form of a wager. My next post will be my own pricing of the events but first the raw events -

Is Drake for real? Clarification as to what for real means – That he is sincere and that he has been approached to be a spokesman for a “group” who purport to be the implementers of a plan that has been in the planning for decades.
Yes
No


Is Drake being played?
Yes
No


If Drake is being played, is this a. - simply to create distraction and/or discredit Wilcock and Fulford or b.- is the intention to create an actual revolt for the ultimate purpose of instigating martial law?
Just to create distraction, possibly discredit folks like Wilcock and/or Fulford
To create the circumstances such that martial law could be imposed




Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law. Cutoff date – end of 2012.
Yes
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will the Plan succeed?
Yes
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in at least a state of civil war in target countries?
Yes
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in global war?
Yes
No


Will ET/ED disclosure by a G20 government occur before the end of 2012?
Yes
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will there be a clear to the masses undeniable involvement of at least one non terrestrial race of benevolent beings?
Yes
No


Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage by the end of June, 2012? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law.
Yes
No


If the plan has not reached clear to the masses operational stages by the end of June, 2012 how confident are you the Plan will actually ever occur? Pick one of 7 choices.
0%
1% up to 24%
Less than 25%
25% or more up to 49%
50% or more up to 74%
75% up to 99%
100%


Will earth experience a catastrophic world changing natural event that cannot be produced by any technology known or suspected to exist on earth by March 31st, 2013 (This covers the early part of 2012 as some apocalypse folks think it is possible/probable).
Yes
No


Will there be a clear cut Ascension of earth before the end of 2013?
Yes
No


OPENING ODDS

and now I will post the opening odds - remember, this is Fantasy Wagering ... we don't want to break any laws here as some posters reside within the US


Is Drake for real? Clarification as to what for real means – That he is sincere and that he has been approached to be a spokesman for a “group” who purport to be the implementers of a plan that has been in the planning for decades.
Yes 99%
No 1%


Is Drake being played?
Yes 90%
No 10%


If Drake is being played, is this a. - simply to create distraction and/or discredit Wilcock and Fulford or b.- is the intention to create an actual revolt for the ultimate purpose of instigating martial law?
Just to create distraction, possibly discredit folks like Wilcock and/or Fulford 60%
To create the circumstances such that martial law could be imposed 40%


Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law. Cutoff date – end of 2012.
Yes 5%
No 95%


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will the Plan succeed?
Yes 10%
No 90%


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in at least a state of civil war in target countries?
Yes 90%
No 10%


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in global war?
Yes 80%
No 20%


Will ET/ED disclosure by a G20 government occur before the end of 2012?
Yes 2%
No 98%


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will there be a clear to the masses undeniable involvement of at least one non terrestrial race of benevolent beings?
Yes 10%
No 90%


Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage by the end of June, 2012? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law.
Yes 1%
No 99%


If the plan has not reached clear to the masses operational stages by the end of June, 2012 how confident are you the Plan will actually ever occur? Pick one of 7 choices.
0%
1% up to 24% I choose 1 – 24%
Less than 25%
25% or more up to 49%
50% or more up to 74%
75% up to 99%
100%


Will earth experience a catastrophic world changing natural event that cannot be produced by any technology known or suspected to exist on earth by March 31st, 2013 (This covers the early part of 2012 as some apocalypse folks think it is possible/probable).
Yes 1%
No 99%


Will there be a clear cut Ascension of earth before the end of 2013?
Yes 1%
No 99%


Comment – The starting odds I have set for these events are odds I created as a bookmaker and are intended to create equal action on both sides – they are not intended so much to be reflections of which way I personally would bet.

If you want to know which sides I would bet, consider we, humanity, are the underdogs. With that in mind you can guess which sides I am betting on as I always bet for the dogs anyways.
By betting on the underdog I am also betting my heart which reflects my hope and faith.
justonebettingman

[Space_Ace]

The following are fantasy wager opportunities for which we can each set our own odds. I realized how many variables are involved with all the Drake stuff and so I tried to bring forth the ones that stuck out to me the most and pose them in the form of a wager. My next post will be my own pricing of the events but first the raw events -

Good thread, let's see what others think. Don't bet any real money, it's just your own beliefs as to the probability of an event happening.

Is Drake for real? Clarification as to what for real means – That he is sincere and that he has been approached to be a spokesman for a “group” who purport to be the implementers of a plan that has been in the planning for decades.
Yes, but he is not the only one with a plan, there's many other groups with their own plans and I really hope whatever plans from whatever groups succeeds.
No


Is Drake being played?
Yes
No, but if mass arrests don't occur end of May, either they are too afraid to go ahead or the elites somehow prevented their arrests.


If Drake is being played, is this a. - simply to create distraction and/or discredit Wilcock and Fulford or b.- is the intention to create an actual revolt for the ultimate purpose of instigating martial law?
Just to create distraction, possibly discredit folks like Wilcock and/or Fulford
To create the circumstances such that martial law could be imposed

Not being played




Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law. Cutoff date – end of 2012.
Yes
Maybe. I give Drake's plan 25% chance to happen end of May and 50% chance overall of succeeding. There's many other plans from other groups, however.
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will the Plan succeed?
Yes, if we can wake up several million people(cops and soldiers in particular), his plan has an excellent chance to succeed. Drake says that 80% of soldiers are good.
No


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in at least a state of civil war in target countries?
Yes
No, divine intervention makes any type of new wars unlikely to happen.


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will this result in global war?
Yes
No, divine intervention makes any type of new wars unlikely to happen.


Will ET/ED disclosure by a G20 government occur before the end of 2012?
Yes
No, the elites have no desire to disclose any truths. It is up to the ETs(I believe in them) to disclose themselves and if we can wake the sheeple and formally invite them, this significantly increases the chance they will disclose themselves. Disclosure was supposed to happen for many years, let's finally make it a reality this year!


If the Plan actually reaches clear to the masses operational stages will there be a clear to the masses undeniable involvement of at least one non terrestrial race of benevolent beings?
Yes, the ETs have been given blessings to help us. But we must not give up on our Plans and push ahead for mass arrests ourselves.
No


Will events escalate such that we can collectively agree “The Plan” is in full blown operation stage by the end of June, 2012? This stage can be reached regardless of whether or not the Plan is a legitimate exercise or if it is a plan by the cabal to create the excuse to instigate martial law.
Yes
Maybe. No one knows if we will see mass arrests, but it can be agreed that the elites need to be arrested and that we must try, especially within the window of opportunity in May.
No


If the plan has not reached clear to the masses operational stages by the end of June, 2012 how confident are you the Plan will actually ever occur? Pick one of 7 choices.
0%
1% up to 24%
Less than 25%
25% or more up to 49%, but remember there's backup plans from other groups.
50% or more up to 74%
75% up to 99%
100%


Will earth experience a catastrophic world changing natural event that cannot be produced by any technology known or suspected to exist on earth by March 31st, 2013 (This covers the early part of 2012 as some apocalypse folks think it is possible/probable).
Yes
No, I do not believe the world is "doomed"


Will there be a clear cut Ascension of earth before the end of 2013?
Yes
Maybe, and if so, it should occur December 21, 2012. I am worried there won't be enough time for all souls to wake up and prepare for their ascension.
No

[Avocadess]

Yanno, I'm -- as just about everyone may have noticed by now -- am a big supporter of what Drake et al. are doing -- but even *I* think there are WAY too many "Drake" threads on Project Avalon.

I'm wondering if any of the mods agree and would be happy to link some of them together somehow? (I don't really know how that works and maybe they are not really linked together all that well.)

[doodah]

Justoneman, as I've indicated in my previous posts, I am basically a supporter of yours. I also support the IDEA of a plan, whether it is this plan or some other.

But there's something about (even imaginery) betting on success / failure, like this was a football game, that puts my teeth on edge. "Pricing" anything makes it a commodity, doesn't it?

Is this what impeccable people do? I don't see how this game helps raise our consciousness in the larger sense.

[foreverfan]

Does anybody really care what I think? Is it even relevant? I didn't think so. Game over.

[YvonneG]

I agree Doodah. I am seeing how much of my time, energy and focus is spent on our commentaries. Everyone is free to spend their energy as they wish. But as Doodah says, not just this game, any so much of our going back and forth--how is this helping us not just raise our consciousness but stay balanced and not run by fear and the millon and one negative senarios paidnted by so many here.

If I had one day to live I would spending debating or trying to convince anyone, I would spending in meditation, in love and loving those around me. I would spend it if possible helping others in anyway I could. I know feel that debating any of this is insane.

Yes, I believe in Drake and the Plan. I am not closed and remain open to checking "facts"...but to allow myself to continually digest other people's opinions and all the fearful things that are dumped out here, well, not any more.

I really wanted to make a difference and naively thought that I could have people who are so blatantly against any of it, at least have an open-mind...what can I say? I just spent a while on the militia forum and most of those guys do exactly that. And they don't spend much time debating any of it. So it is possible.

Here is a post from someone who KNOW much better than any of us about some of this stuff:
Permalink Reply by Bryan McManis yesterday
Donald ONCE AGAIN you are showing How IGNORANT you really are on this subject. It is in MORE then one location and has been ongoing for 2 Months now.

This is coming from MORE then one source. I having been a Sheriff Deputy and Detective would NOT want you covering my Six for a fact Brother. You would get me killed with your shallow investigative skills and Situational Awareness. Hate me all you want but you are still sticking your foot in your mouth brother.

Take the time to research this and then come back and “bang away” all you want it would be very welcome but right now you are just sounding like a sheep that is in a coma and not wide awake at all.

Is this real? I cannot confirm that but when I was in the Air Force and Flew the F-111 and Top Secret Clearance it was “Need to know” and Compartmentalized for a fact.

We were subject to being kidnapped and tortured because we flew a Top Secret Speed Aircraft that carried the “package” I only say that now because the F-111 is NOT in our inventory but to this day the top speed from the 50’s until now is still Top Secret.

According to “Drake”, there have already been 14 people that had them and their families not only killed BUT ALSO tortured and then killed.

If this is real then---Those in the Military and US Federal Marshals are AT GREAT RISK SINCE Hobama and our Government HAVE killed people already.

Not for or against Drake but he has not been wrong YET and I have been for 2 months TRYING to figure out what is going on.

If you were paying attention ( which you were not) if this does not happen by May 15th it is NOT REAL.

However, it does make sense to USE US Federal Marshals backed up by the Military to ARREST and try those in Government that have BROKEN their Oath and committed Criminal Acts.

It CLEARY states in the Constitution that you can be ARRESTED while in Public Office for

High Crimes ( Felony)
Misdemeanors
Insurrection
Breech of the Peace
Bribery

That would cover every banker and ELECTED person I know.

In addition, in the same sentence, it talks about those IN A POSITION of TRUST that would be the Military and the Police, which is WHY although we are NOT, Elected we TAKE AN OATH just like the Elected Officials do.

[Earth Angel]

Yes I agree 100%........when I saw this new thread, nothing against the idea.....just thought this is turning into the Drake forum.......I hope he is truthful and will put my focus on that , its better than the alternative as I am one of those 'naive' beings that do believe we create our own reality.......



Yanno, I'm -- as just about everyone may have noticed by now -- am a big supporter of what Drake et al. are doing -- but even *I* think there are WAY too many "Drake" threads on Project Avalon.

I'm wondering if any of the mods agree and would be happy to link some of them together somehow? (I don't really know how that works and maybe they are not really linked together all that well.)

[Chester]

Justoneman, as I've indicated in my previous posts, I am basically a supporter of yours. I also support the IDEA of a plan, whether it is this plan or some other.

But there's something about (even imaginery) betting on success / failure, like this was a football game, that puts my teeth on edge. "Pricing" anything makes it a commodity, doesn't it?

Is this what impeccable people do? I don't see how this game helps raise our consciousness in the larger sense.

Here is the purpose of this thread - I was hoping people would way in on which side they bet on (it is a fantasy bet - more like a vote) - such that when the bets come in - the odds change. It is my belief that the informed folks on this forum might sway those odds to appear more positive. I use odds because math is a clear quantifier of one's beliefs - My opening odds (as I state) does not reflect my personal view as to which side I would bet on - though I hinted at that at the end of my post - which I will clarify by stating I am for any plan that will free humanity and that I believe we DO have positive ET/EDs assisting us earth humans in taking back our world.

I will add that I see nothing wrong in using the betting format to demonstrate views of individuals that can then be grouped as a collective. Again, I hope the odds would change, based on the way people bet - to a more positive outlook and was my hoped for goal.

I sense you may think something is "wrong" with betting? I do realize the US is about the last place on earth not to have either a.) legal/regulated sports betting or b.) completely controlled by a winked at underground managed betting which is almost the same as a.)

Note: I did not charge juice as I made all the markets 100% - but if I did, I would donate it to Drake, take care Doodah - I sense we are on the same team - the team for humanity

[Chester]

I agree Doodah. I am seeing how much of my time, energy and focus is spent on our commentaries. Everyone is free to spend their energy as they wish. But as Doodah says, not just this game, any so much of our going back and forth--how is this helping us not just raise our consciousness but stay balanced and not run by fear and the millon and one negative senarios paidnted by so many here.

If I had one day to live I would spending debating or trying to convince anyone, I would spending in meditation, in love and loving those around me. I would spend it if possible helping others in anyway I could. I know feel that debating any of this is insane.

Yes, I believe in Drake and the Plan. I am not closed and remain open to checking "facts"...but to allow myself to continually digest other people's opinions and all the fearful things that are dumped out here, well, not any more.

I really wanted to make a difference and naively thought that I could have people who are so blatantly against any of it, at least have an open-mind...what can I say? I just spent a while on the militia forum and most of those guys do exactly that. And they don't spend much time debating any of it. So it is possible.

Here is a post from someone who KNOW much better than any of us about some of this stuff:
Permalink Reply by Bryan McManis yesterday
Donald ONCE AGAIN you are showing How IGNORANT you really are on this subject. It is in MORE then one location and has been ongoing for 2 Months now.

This is coming from MORE then one source. I having been a Sheriff Deputy and Detective would NOT want you covering my Six for a fact Brother. You would get me killed with your shallow investigative skills and Situational Awareness. Hate me all you want but you are still sticking your foot in your mouth brother.

Take the time to research this and then come back and “bang away” all you want it would be very welcome but right now you are just sounding like a sheep that is in a coma and not wide awake at all.

Is this real? I cannot confirm that but when I was in the Air Force and Flew the F-111 and Top Secret Clearance it was “Need to know” and Compartmentalized for a fact.

We were subject to being kidnapped and tortured because we flew a Top Secret Speed Aircraft that carried the “package” I only say that now because the F-111 is NOT in our inventory but to this day the top speed from the 50’s until now is still Top Secret.

According to “Drake”, there have already been 14 people that had them and their families not only killed BUT ALSO tortured and then killed.

If this is real then---Those in the Military and US Federal Marshals are AT GREAT RISK SINCE Hobama and our Government HAVE killed people already.

Not for or against Drake but he has not been wrong YET and I have been for 2 months TRYING to figure out what is going on.

If you were paying attention ( which you were not) if this does not happen by May 15th it is NOT REAL.

However, it does make sense to USE US Federal Marshals backed up by the Military to ARREST and try those in Government that have BROKEN their Oath and committed Criminal Acts.

It CLEARY states in the Constitution that you can be ARRESTED while in Public Office for

High Crimes ( Felony)
Misdemeanors
Insurrection
Breech of the Peace
Bribery

That would cover every banker and ELECTED person I know.

In addition, in the same sentence, it talks about those IN A POSITION of TRUST that would be the Military and the Police, which is WHY although we are NOT, Elected we TAKE AN OATH just like the Elected Officials do.

Excellent Post YvonneG - the purpose in my exercise was stated in the previous thread, but I am writing to you here to thank you for posting an example of what appears to be an informed and on board patriot. I tried to post that I had updated my original thread based on my decision to TRUST that there is real, tangible help from positive ET/EDs. They have taken out bases and have disabled weaponry. By my further reflection upon that information which I choose to believe is truthful I beat the Drake drum again and will no longer allow anything to change my mind.

I read all your posts and there's no question your heart is golden.

I have taken seriously the deaths of the 14 mentioned by Drake (I recall he mentioned that two of them were a principle player's children). I did not know that they were also tortured. We are dealing with extremely sick all the way to the depths of their souls individuals. Is there any question what team I am on? I hope not. I went through my exercise to demonstrate that at least one of us considers all the factors of the Plan. I doubt anyone could say i have not spent a great amount of time examining as much as I could the veracity of Drake, if the folks behind him are for real and all the ramifications of a fully implemented plan.

I am sorry I used the betting format as part of my attempt to show that enough of us can actually CHANGE the odds in the favor of Hope as most of us here on this forum are pretty much in the hands of those behind the plan and other than voice our opinions to others here, to our loved ones, to anyone who will allow us to voice them, there is little else we can do.

[aranuk]

Hi Justoneman, I posted this a wee while ago on the Drakes Update thread but got little response. Maybe if I post it here there might be some feedback.

Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

It is quite clear to me that in all these discussions we are having about Drake, there seems to be almost agreement that Drake believes what he is saying. The most important thing in all this, is can we trust his military friend or friends that are giving him the go ahead with all these plans and such? I know that he can't divulge names or even describe the person or persons too clearly, as that would jeopardise the lives of these people. I repeat again, that I think Drake is speaking the truth as far as he has been told. Surely to goodness there are ways of us finding out if what he is saying is true or not. Most of us here would love it to be all true. Can any of you Americans here not come up with a really smart way of asking him a certain question or questions which would settle our minds a little? I know about psy-ops, however surely in the field there are ways to find out if someone is a friend or foe. What about Corey who has experience in this kind of subterfuge, would you know?

A scenario in a battle torn land. A known member of your battalion passes you a message to do something that you think might either endanger yourself or your comrades in battle. He tells you that there is only a 5% risk that the enemy know the plans. Do you follow orders or can you ask a question that would clarify the position. You have been told and you know yourself that their is a traitor amongst your group. What do you do?

Stan

[YvonneG]

Justoneman,

I don't for one minute doubt your good intentions. My comments were really meant MORE for what I have continued to see here on the forum. I have been spending time on the militia forum wram, where Drake communicates. These folks disagree, but even the skeptics are real "skeptics" and not cynics...which is very different.

If it is true, in whatever way people see this, that our thoughts, words, feelings, intentions influence (there is much proof for this, but I don't plan to detail here), then we should be aware of this. And also realize that what we say and how we say effects others who read what we wrote. You are careful and seeing this only "triggered" what I was already wanting to share. :-(

The is hard science behind what I state above of how we influence others. And consider that FEAR is how they control us and what they use to manipulate us.

Okay, Justoneman, you are quite an amazing and honest soul.

Be well,
Yvonne


I agree Doodah. I am seeing how much of my time, energy and focus is spent on our commentaries. Everyone is free to spend their energy as they wish. But as Doodah says, not just this game, any so much of our going back and forth--how is this helping us not just raise our consciousness but stay balanced and not run by fear and the millon and one negative senarios paidnted by so many here.

If I had one day to live I would spending debating or trying to convince anyone, I would spending in meditation, in love and loving those around me. I would spend it if possible helping others in anyway I could. I know feel that debating any of this is insane.

Yes, I believe in Drake and the Plan. I am not closed and remain open to checking "facts"...but to allow myself to continually digest other people's opinions and all the fearful things that are dumped out here, well, not any more.

I really wanted to make a difference and naively thought that I could have people who are so blatantly against any of it, at least have an open-mind...what can I say? I just spent a while on the militia forum and most of those guys do exactly that. And they don't spend much time debating any of it. So it is possible.

Here is a post from someone who KNOW much better than any of us about some of this stuff:
Permalink Reply by Bryan McManis yesterday
Donald ONCE AGAIN you are showing How IGNORANT you really are on this subject. It is in MORE then one location and has been ongoing for 2 Months now.

This is coming from MORE then one source. I having been a Sheriff Deputy and Detective would NOT want you covering my Six for a fact Brother. You would get me killed with your shallow investigative skills and Situational Awareness. Hate me all you want but you are still sticking your foot in your mouth brother.

Take the time to research this and then come back and “bang away” all you want it would be very welcome but right now you are just sounding like a sheep that is in a coma and not wide awake at all.

Is this real? I cannot confirm that but when I was in the Air Force and Flew the F-111 and Top Secret Clearance it was “Need to know” and Compartmentalized for a fact.

We were subject to being kidnapped and tortured because we flew a Top Secret Speed Aircraft that carried the “package” I only say that now because the F-111 is NOT in our inventory but to this day the top speed from the 50’s until now is still Top Secret.

According to “Drake”, there have already been 14 people that had them and their families not only killed BUT ALSO tortured and then killed.

If this is real then---Those in the Military and US Federal Marshals are AT GREAT RISK SINCE Hobama and our Government HAVE killed people already.

Not for or against Drake but he has not been wrong YET and I have been for 2 months TRYING to figure out what is going on.

If you were paying attention ( which you were not) if this does not happen by May 15th it is NOT REAL.

However, it does make sense to USE US Federal Marshals backed up by the Military to ARREST and try those in Government that have BROKEN their Oath and committed Criminal Acts.

It CLEARY states in the Constitution that you can be ARRESTED while in Public Office for

High Crimes ( Felony)
Misdemeanors
Insurrection
Breech of the Peace
Bribery

That would cover every banker and ELECTED person I know.

In addition, in the same sentence, it talks about those IN A POSITION of TRUST that would be the Military and the Police, which is WHY although we are NOT, Elected we TAKE AN OATH just like the Elected Officials do.

Excellent Post YvonneG - the purpose in my exercise was stated in the previous thread, but I am writing to you here to thank you for posting an example of what appears to be an informed and on board patriot. I tried to post that I had updated my original thread based on my decision to TRUST that there is real, tangible help from positive ET/EDs. They have taken out bases and have disabled weaponry. By my further reflection upon that information which I choose to believe is truthful I beat the Drake drum again and will no longer allow anything to change my mind.

I read all your posts and there's no question your heart is golden.

I have taken seriously the deaths of the 14 mentioned by Drake (I recall he mentioned that two of them were a principle player's children). I did not know that they were also tortured. We are dealing with extremely sick all the way to the depths of their souls individuals. Is there any question what team I am on? I hope not. I went through my exercise to demonstrate that at least one of us considers all the factors of the Plan. I doubt anyone could say i have not spent a great amount of time examining as much as I could the veracity of Drake, if the folks behind him are for real and all the ramifications of a fully implemented plan.

I am sorry I used the betting format as part of my attempt to show that enough of us can actually CHANGE the odds in the favor of Hope as most of us here on this forum are pretty much in the hands of those behind the plan and other than voice our opinions to others here, to our loved ones, to anyone who will allow us to voice them, there is little else we can do.

[OnyxKnight]

Oh wow, another Drake thread on Avalon....


... and the grass is green, and the sky is blue ...

[Chester]

Hi Justoneman, I posted this a wee while ago on the Drakes Update thread but got little response. Maybe if I post it here there might be some feedback.

Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

It is quite clear to me that in all these discussions we are having about Drake, there seems to be almost agreement that Drake believes what he is saying. The most important thing in all this, is can we trust his military friend or friends that are giving him the go ahead with all these plans and such? I know that he can't divulge names or even describe the person or persons too clearly, as that would jeopardise the lives of these people. I repeat again, that I think Drake is speaking the truth as far as he has been told. Surely to goodness there are ways of us finding out if what he is saying is true or not. Most of us here would love it to be all true. Can any of you Americans here not come up with a really smart way of asking him a certain question or questions which would settle our minds a little? I know about psy-ops, however surely in the field there are ways to find out if someone is a friend or foe. What about Corey who has experience in this kind of subterfuge, would you know?

A scenario in a battle torn land. A known member of your battalion passes you a message to do something that you think might either endanger yourself or your comrades in battle. He tells you that there is only a 5% risk that the enemy know the plans. Do you follow orders or can you ask a question that would clarify the position. You have been told and you know yourself that their is a traitor amongst your group. What do you do?

Stan

Hi Stan - I sent you a PM about this

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Justoneman,

I don't for one minute doubt your good intentions. My comments were really meant MORE for what I have continued to see here on the forum. I have been spending time on the militia forum wram, where Drake communicates. These folks disagree, but even the skeptics are real "skeptics" and not cynics...which is very different.

If it is true, in whatever way people see this, that our thoughts, words, feelings, intentions influence (there is much proof for this, but I don't plan to detail here), then we should be aware of this. And also realize that what we say and how we say effects others who read what we wrote. You are careful and seeing this only "triggered" what I was already wanting to share. :-(

The is hard science behind what I state above of how we influence others. And consider that FEAR is how they control us and what they use to manipulate us.

Okay, Justoneman, you are quite an amazing and honest soul.

Be well,
Yvonne


Thank you YvonneG (also thank you Avocadess and Doodah and Earth Angel)

I am going to ask the Mods to stop further posts on this thread. If they can't or won't do that, I will no longer post on this thread and hopefully the thread will quickly die. I now see my idea as a mistake. I also agree too many "Drake" threads is counter productive and begins to resemble the "Charles" circus.
justoneman

[turiya]

Winston Shrout/Wilcock Interview

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43958-Drake-and-Teri-a-contrary-view.&p=480476#post480476


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rKKexGdPjI&feature=player_embedded

[ThePythonicCow]

I am going to ask the Mods to stop further posts on this thread.
(Note to others: if you post something that you would like the Mods to see, it's a good idea to Report http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/buttons/report-40b.png it. Otherwise there's a good chance the Mods will not notice it.)

Ok - by request of the original poster, justoneman, this thread is hereby closed.

[OnyxKnight]

It doesn't seem so Paul ...

[Tangri]

Excuse me for my humble question, Who or what is,/was Drake?
Why is it so important which cause so many posts?

[ThePythonicCow]

It doesn't seem so Paul ...

:)

I forgot to click the Close option ... there ... now it's closed.