Why don't we cry?

[UnrealDreams]

Hello fellow Avalonians! First I would like to say that I am thrilled and honored to be here in the presence of like minded people. We are all here for a reason at this point in time.

The idea for this thread came to me earlier today. I let our cats outside in our fenced area this morning and our Siamese cat(Sebastian) was meowing profusely. I know Siamese cats are known to meow, but Sebastian is particularly insecure and he meows uncontrollably sometimes. You see, Sebastian was abandoned at one point, and my fiance found him at the animal shelter, and brought him home.

Of course I talk to the cats(Shiboan is the other one in my avatar), so I explained to Sebastian that we love him and will never leave him. Of course he stopped meowing after I said this. I had a moment there where I got really emotional and was on the verge of tears. I thought "what if something ever happened to him."

At that moment I found myself being questioned. "Why don't you cry for all the human beings who are killed in these senseless wars?"
The question was followed by a statement which I immediately recognised as truth. I was told that......"this is the problem with humanity."

I normally ignore that "little voice in my head', but sometimes it says things that are worthwhile. When this happens it's an overwhelming feeling of truth that can not be ignored. This was one of those moments.

I was nearly in tears at the thought of something possibly happening to my cat at some point in time, but I never cry for the souls who are culled from this Earth by MY terrible government, and most major governments of this world.

I wanted to share this with everyone. Today I will have a moment where I grieve for the souls lost through the misdeeds of governments around the world. I am grieving for the innocent souls. The children who are bombed while they sleep. The families who are gunned down as they try to flee, and don't realize there is a "checkpoint" ahead. The families who are held hostage and terrorized while the Taliban set up in their homes, only to be bombed into oblivion by the occupying forces. In those covert wars, such as Syria, I grieve for all the lost souls who are taken out by American(cabal) funded snipers.

Please join me. If, and when you do decide to grieve for all the innocent people killed by war, please share with us where in the world you are. I would love to have this be an everyday occurance with participation from every part of the globe.

Grieving in Australia at the moment...
With love,
Jeff

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yes, we have been greatly insensitized to the atrocities committed by our modern governments in our name against the less fortunate of the world.
I grieve here in Toronto Canada for all the peoples ravaged by war in the name of economic advancement.
Shame on all of us!
I am so sorry for my part...
Please forgive me.
Love, and most of all PEACE.

[Alie]

Hello fellow Avalonians! First I would like to say that I am thrilled and honored to be here in the presence of like minded people. We are all here for a reason at this point in time.

The idea for this thread came to me earlier today. I let our cats outside in our fenced area this morning and our Siamese cat(Sebastian) was meowing profusely. I know Siamese cats are known to meow, but Sebastian is particularly insecure and he meows uncontrollably sometimes. You see, Sebastian was abandoned at one point, and my fiance found him at the animal shelter, and brought him home.

Of course I talk to the cats(Shiboan is the other one in my avatar), so I explained to Sebastian that we love him and will never leave him. Of course he stopped meowing after I said this. I had a moment there where I got really emotional and was on the verge of tears. I thought "what if something ever happened to him."

At that moment I found myself being questioned. "Why don't you cry for all the human beings who are killed in these senseless wars?"
The question was followed by a statement which I immediately recognised as truth. I was told that......"this is the problem with humanity."

I normally ignore that "little voice in my head', but sometimes it says things that are worthwhile. When this happens it's an overwhelming feeling of truth that can not be ignored. This was one of those moments.

I was nearly in tears at the thought of something possibly happening to my cat at some point in time, but I never cry for the souls who are culled from this Earth by MY terrible government, and most major governments of this world.

I wanted to share this with everyone. Today I will have a moment where I grieve for the souls lost through the misdeeds of governments around the world. I am grieving for the innocent souls. The children who are bombed while they sleep. The families who are gunned down as they try to flee, and don't realize there is a "checkpoint" ahead. The families who are held hostage and terrorized while the Taliban set up in their homes, only to be bombed into oblivion by the occupying forces. In those covert wars, such as Syria, I grieve for all the lost souls who are taken out by American(cabal) funded snipers.

Please join me. If, and when you do decide to grieve for all the innocent people killed by war, please share with us where in the world you are. I would love to have this be an everyday occurance with participation from every part of the globe.

Grieving in Australia at the moment...
With love,
Jeff


There is something going on I think. We have 3 threads just now (in the last few days) that are bringing awareness about these horrible crimes against humanity.

We (ME) are desensitized. I don't know how to cry --- too much life has taught me (forced me) to "suck it up".

Well thanks. I must think about this tonight. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

[UnrealDreams]

Alie, in your case, a phone call to your elected representative letting them know that you won't support ANY wars would be a good idea. That would be a great idea for anyone.

[modwiz]

Alie, in your case, a phone call to your elected representative letting them know that you won't support ANY wars would be a good idea. That would be a great idea for anyone.

Unfortunately Americans have no elected representatives. They may or may not be elected, but they are all held hostage by their unsavory pasts and circumstances. There is only organized crime and foreign control in America.

There is hope still that America will take itself back from the criminals. That time is not yet here.

Maybe tomorrow.

Seriously!

[Anchor]

Equally valid is why do we cry?

I cry a lot. I am a little cry baby basically, but only when no-one is looking (or as close to that as I can manage - my ego defense system is still so programmed)

It turns out there are some good reasons to cry - even if it be tears of joy!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9988-Why-we-shed-tears--cry-

It is very clear that crying on the whole has been misunderstood by a lot of people.

Perhaps one of the reasons we don't cry is that we have isolated ourselves from the awareness of the suffering of others. We deny the notion that we are just as much of it and our consciousness droplets are all part of the big ocean of consciousness at the end of the day - possibly because we fear being overwhelmed - because we may think ourselves weak (when the truth is we are the strongest).

This is a bridge we will all cross in time, but we need to take it slowly so that we can build our knowledge of that inner strength and inner wisdom so we can get actively involved in the repair work necessary on the root causes of suffering without being so emotionally wrecked in the process.

My sense is that everyone knows that time is approaching - and this is why its such a hot topic.

Perhaps that is also why people are crying a lot?

[sirdipswitch]

I do cry for them. Every day.

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[UnrealDreams]

Alie, in your case, a phone call to your elected representative letting them know that you won't support ANY wars would be a good idea. That would be a great idea for anyone.

Unfortunately Americans have no elected representatives. They may or may not be elected, but they are all held hostage by their unsavory pasts and circumstances. There is only organized crime and foreign control in America.

There is hope still that America will take itself back from the criminals. That time is not yet here.

Maybe tomorrow.

Seriously!

What you say is true. Americans have been too complacent for too long. This is a strategy that could have worked had we been vigiliant years ago. I did not ever give up, regardless. I had my elected rep on "speed dial" before I left the USA.

Thank you for responding to this thread, Modwiz. I always have appreciated your insight and knowledge.

With love,
Jeff

[ViralSpiral]

With one foot in reality, the other in illusion and the sliding door revealing both possibilities of our timeline, we will cry harder and louder, pushing us to co-create the best of the potentials.

Thank you for this thread!

(( hugs))

[markpierre]

Who isn't crying for them? The fact that it's so easy for most people to cover up their anguish doesn't protect them from despair. It's only fear. They're doing what they seem to have to.

There are some who have none but don't worry, they'll get their opportunity.

[kcbc2010]

We may not have wet tears, but a lot of us have tears in our hearts when we pray about all this. There's a lot of sad/bad things going on these days. You can only cry so many real tears because, despite all the bad things, we must keep on living.

[PurpleLama]

The modern heart must be broken before it can fully open. Tears and heaves and sobs are the natural result as trauma leaves the body.

[Kelly]

I cry all the time!

[wynderer]

i think i've found some fellow empaths on this thread -- compassionate empaths...

Irene De Castillejo , a wise Jungian analyst, in her book 'Knowing Woman' says that a woman returns to her 'true self' after a good cry

from an online etymological dictionary:
compassion

mid-14c., from O.Fr. compassion "sympathy, pity" (12c.), from L.L. compassionem (nom. compassio) "sympathy," noun of state from pp. stem of compati "to feel pity," from com- "together" (see com-) + pati "to suffer" (see passion). Latin compassio is an ecclesiastical loan-translation of Gk. sympatheia (see sympathy). An O.E. loan-translation of compassion was efenðrowung.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=compassion

to cry with & for those who are suffering -- that does tear the heart apart

[Marie]

Thank you... I am with you in this. This thread is very synchronous with how I have been feeling. I cry too and I believe it is a potent expression of love and can be a call for change that reaches far and wide. I have been reading much in this forum and elsewhere and have felt disheartened by the abuse and suffering that exists in our world, particularly with children. It is staying with me - I can't seem to let it go - which tells me I need to work with it... within my own 'circle' and holding intention for 'all'... feeling the pain and holding it with love. As difficult as it is to look at, I am grateful when exposure happens - an important step to change occurring.

Thank you for this thread. ❤

[Unified Serenity]

It's all about managing our energy or having it managed for us. There are benefits to both crying and not crying. If you are living in a high stress situation (and who isn't right now) then one can either be incapacitated with feeling all the pain and letting it overwhelm their senses and ability to do what they need to do. I am reminded of when I worked with the police. We could make the most calloused jokes about a horrible situation, but it was a coping mechanism. You should hear the awful things medical personnel say in the emergency room. It's all about managing their energy and not falling apart.

There is another side which deals with using others energy fields to empower your efforts as a sorcerer / magician / energy worker. This is why large public tragedies are so powerful for them. The energy emitted before the people can gain control of their feelings is quite powerful. It is one of the reasons we have so many "religious" and "Totem" items at ley lines. I believe they are used to send and attract energy. We are so much more powerful than most can realize and sadly we are being manipulated by the worst sorts of energy workers. Imagine a mega event that elevated mankind's spirit and brought us all to a place of balance and wholeness where fear was finally destroyed.

[Peace of Mind]

I also wonder why some people do this. There is suffering here and there... but some people are picky when it comes to shedding a tear.

Some can talk daily about all the atrocities and oppression we face in this world but do little to alleviate the pain it causes. They trick themselves into thinking everything is well...until this wellness decides to move on...perhaps to find a more appreciative and deserving being.

Actually...It’s becoming a task for me to stay out of many of the topics here. I use to direct people to this forum (as I was once invited here) but now the topics seem more detrimental than useful. There are hardly anymore topics with our collective input/insight to dealing with our obvious issues. But you’ll see countless sci-fy looking material with discussions of doom and high speculations. Somethimes I feel like the place was taking over by body snatchers... Most of my comments here (nowadays) is to shred any doubts of self, expose deceivers, and inspire others as well as myself to work together on our common issues.

IMO, In these times…I view “time wasters” as agents…some unknowingly vetted, programmed, and provoked to fit the position. Whenever I see people promoting doom and gloom, or going overboard with their indefinable alien hype…I’m compelled to chime in from time to time to give insight on how it is a distraction....along with the obvious evidence to support my claims.

What has any of the Alien hype done for us? Let's see if this simple question will ever receive a definitive answer...that can also be verified.

I can give plenty facts on how it is doing nothing but stopping us from dealing with what we already know is hurting us. When I see people claiming everything is alright I see denial, fear to react, comfort zones refortified. These people are becoming more problematic because they blindly contradict themselves simply by their actions…or shall I say their “inactions”. They also claim to be knowledgable of "The laws of Attractions" but hide and remain recluse. I don't mind peace and quite from time to time...however, solidarity is suppose to be part of our being.

I do not speak of misfortunes unless I have an obvious solution for them. Why do this? This shows you are controlled by an evil force. I can’t claim to be pro-active, caring, and ambitious when I’m seen here all day every day promoting everything other than the power of humanity. I do not wish to come here to chew the fat/joke around/ chat as if no one isn’t suffering in the world at this very moment ( for this…PM’s and Emails will suffice ).

I smile when I see commitments, and become a little glossy eyed when an enlightened soul takes their time and responsibility lightly. There is a world of confused people looking for help and the truth. There’s a world of brainwashed people that are now starting to consider they where lied to. These blind people (although unforgiving with their ridicule) need us. We have to be tolerant and understand that we too were as blind at one time.

This is our window of opportunity…but too many of us care more about our reputations and how people view us…IMHO, these people are the pretenders, all they do is talk…hoping to keep your attention so you don’t do what you were meant to do. Misery loves company; don’t let the disguise of hope and light fool you. Recognize their intentions…anyone can say I love you, but do their actions display this? hmmm….

Some of us actually think the mass trauma in life is normal….but in so many words they later go on to say “they want a more positive life”. I don’t think these people realize that the world is ONLY the way it is because of what we do and don’t do. When you see the blame being passed and people sitting back waiting for a miracle (from an unconfirmed source)…I see disempowerment. Do you actually want to trust these peoples?

As for me…I want to link up with everyone that is truly willing to put in the work. I’m through with dealing with attention seekers and pretenders…there’s no more time to waste with this demoralizing presence, even though, with an open eye you can see how individuals often waste their knowledge and time by sharing it daily with the choir…while the ones in true need roam around curelessly outside their residences. We need to become better organized, brave, and walk the talk. Our hypocrisy will destroy us, but for those of us that recognize our insincerity…we still have that chance to perform our own miracles. How hard can it be? All you/we have to do…is do it. We just have to want to…not pretend we want to. There's a big difference.

Peace

[RUSirius]

I think of those that truly suffer due to governmental oppression, and many other reasons almost daily, I dont ignore them in my mind, sometimes I tear up, I dont usually cry. If it were an equation where we had to cry to equal the amount of suffering that goes on daily, we would always be crying.

[Sidney]

I hope I won't be struck down by my answer here, but here it is.
Almost every human being in my life (over 50 years), has mistreated,abused,judged,used etc. etc. I have only known one person who has loved me unconditionally, and that is my daughter.
Animals? Unconditional love 100% of the time.

With people, I have build a very strong thick imaginary wall around myself, for emotional protection. I have taken it partially down a few time to let someone in, but , I guess I can say it outloud, i have some serious trust issues.

Do I cry? Absolutely, but usually I don't know even why I am crying. I guess, the simple answer is grief. The loss of happiness, and the pain of hope.

I also have to say though, in general, I think alot of folks don't cry any more because of anti-depression meds numb the emotions.

[Alex Laker]

I think that maybe the desensitisation is necessary, else we just couldn't carry on and try to make a difference. Of course we feel grief when those who we have established a close personal bond pass on - everybody does. However, I can only see that feeling grief in the face of the tragic death of strangers is due to a feeling of helplessness and even hopelessness, which is understandable in the case of a war, or natural disaster. I guess there's no 'right way' to feel about anything, but in the face of such events I tend to feel anger in the case of war, or speechless awe in the case of a natural disaster. The only time I tend to get emotional or shed a tear is when I see something good happen in the world.

And actually, it's the same thing. We're all bogged down with the stress of living in this world. We either cry because we wish so much that it could be a better place, or because we realise it's not as bad as we thought. I guess it depends on where your 'baseline' is.

That being said, it would seem that all tears are shed in the name of hope.

[conk]

I do and unashamedly. :(