jay weidner hits the nail on the head again (wikileaks)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqWtfnGDdU&feature=PlayList&p=BB5F7E56C6647A75&index=0

wiki leaks designed to take the usa down.. which goes along wth my thoughts of the usa miltary program is designed to lose and make the usa look bad.. destruction from within..

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another thought is ironically david wilcock is right. obama is workoing for the russians lol..

[sojorner]

I enjoyed the interview...I'm a fan of Jay Weidner and I always like what he has to say.

Tx

Soj

[Fredkc]

david wilcock is right. obama is workoing for the russians
Waitasec... I thought Wilcock was sure Obama was the greatest thing since free, pre-sliced, buttered, and toasted bread.

there must be two david wilcocks.

see my description of the Afghan War Diary here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4454-Afghan-War-Diary) (hurry tho. it'll fall of page 1 in News like a stone.)


the usa miltary program is designed to lose and make the usa look bad
Actually, it is designed to never win, just be a "forever war" so all the leeches building weapons can make a fortune. Vietnam redux.

[Operator]

Waitasec... I thought Wilcock was sure Obama was the greatest thing since free, pre-sliced, buttered, and toasted bread.

there must be two david wilcocks.


You are very sharp Fred ... I had a similar feeling yesterday. I watched this video: Jack Otto - Forbidden Knowledge: History of the Khazar Empire and the Illuminati (http://vimeo.com/13718766)
I can recommend this video to everyone ... Jack is talking about the Khazar and I got the feeling David was talking about this group but then in a benevolent way.

Everyone decide for him/herself who has the cards upside down in his hands ...
(perhaps I understood it wrong and mis-connected things)

[Fredkc]

Operator;
If you think you got it wrong, when everyone else is sure they got it right...
Either you got it right, or you're just hard-headed.
...or both ;)
Fred

[Operator]

Operator;
If you think you got it wrong, when everyone else is sure they got it right...
Either you got it right, or you're just hard-headed.
...or both ;)
Fred

I think that so many people are programmed to tell you that you got it wrong ... you have to be hard-headed to get it right :p

[Fredkc]

"Aye there's the rub"
You can be hard-headed and never know you have it wrong,
soft-headed and never know you got it right...

Maybe the trick is being hard-headed and mushy-brained.

Still workin' on that ;)

[Snowbird]

Waitasec... I thought Wilcock was sure Obama was the greatest thing since free, pre-sliced, buttered, and toasted bread.

there must be two david wilcocks.

see my description of the Afghan War Diary here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4454-Afghan-War-Diary) (hurry tho. it'll fall of page 1 in News like a stone.)


Actually, it is designed to never win, just be a "forever war" so all the leeches building weapons can make a fortune. Vietnam redux.

Did I hear Weidner and Rense correctly when I thought that they said that the Wikileaks Afghan War Diary was being done purposely to weaken the military? Are they implying that Wikileaks works for the ptb?

BTW Fred, I applaud the downloads that you have performed recently. AND the FACT that you are willing to put it in print that you have done this.

I also love your avatars! Cute! :thumb:

[sojorner]

I had a couple of thoughts.....
#1. Wikileaks could be acting in good faith not knowing that the information is coming to them with another agenda in mind.

#2 In George Greens books The Groundcrew trilogy ones....I had read something to the effect that..there will be leaks regarding US military and the horrors going on abroad...the reason given in the books, were to turn the world against America and set the stage for a payback scenario if you will, and the world would not be sympathetic to America when it occurs.

I question the motive of why this information is coming out now, along with the videos coming out regarding the police brutality. Why do the wannabe ptb's want us to see the police and military as our enemy? These are just questions I have...as I muddle my way through this mess.

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i agree sojourner with what you say, also look @ all the recent tv and movie portrayals of usa in iraq ect. i just watched the a team film and its designed perfectly to get the rest of the world cheering americas demise. wiki leaks does seem to be a honeypot. i mean just read the stuff in it, no apologies for the militaries activities just facts and the 9/11 stuff to.. assange is an asset wether or not he himslf is aware of that matters not the results the same.

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Waitasec... I thought Wilcock was sure Obama was the greatest thing since free, pre-sliced, buttered, and toasted bread.

there must be two david wilcocks.

see my description of the Afghan War Diary here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4454-Afghan-War-Diary) (hurry tho. it'll fall of page 1 in News like a stone.)


Actually, it is designed to never win, just be a "forever war" so all the leeches building weapons can make a fortune. Vietnam redux.

yes the never ending war is also a feature of these tactics,but your right wilcock thinks obama is working for some russian faction and he thinks that this is a good thing. mr wilcocks political reports are nonsense and pure disinfo based on the much vaunted insider testimony. similarly the et stuff is in the same boat pure hearsay.

[Fredkc]

I question the motive of why this information is coming out now, along with the videos coming out regarding the police brutality. Why do the wannabe ptb's want us to see the police and military as our enemy? These are just questions I have...as I muddle my way through this mess.
wow. That's pretty "circular", Sojourner.
Once you've assumed that information damaging to the PTB was released, on purpose, by the PTB ,where can you go from there?

The nature of the information leads people to discredit the legitimacy of "government as force". It also tends to discredit the legitimacy of any PTB-based usurper to that power, other than the people themselves. So, "Cui bono"? (Who benefits?)

It seems you're left with some "all-pervasive" PTB, carrying on an intricate plot that even includes the willing help of it's enemies, yet too dumb to know when they've shot themselves in the foot.


mr wilcocks political reports are nonsense and pure disinfo based on the much vaunted insider testimony. similarly the et stuff is in the same boat pure hearsay.
My impression is that re. politics David is a bit out of his field. Engages in some fairly heavy wishful thinking, and just dislikes having his bubble burst. Kinda like Greer's "no bad aliens" position.
Fred

[sojorner]

I don't deny that atrocities are being committed by men and women in uniform, however, the wannabe ptb's are extremely good at setting one party or group of people against the other, and I've learned to take a step back from a situation and consider are these my thoughts and feelings, or am I being guided to have these thoughts and feelings.

I believe it's necessary to be aware of what's really going on, and pass it around, however if the intention is to destroy the US in such a way that no-one would feel bad, and see it as it got what it deserved, no I do not consent to being a part of it.

After so many years of believing in so many untruths....I'm now cautious where I put my belief.

If I really did choose to come here at this time, and yes I believe I did. I'm sure this doesn't look like the brochure. lol