Ascension Q&A with Drunvalo

[PathWalker]

Latest Q&A with Drunvalo, posted yesterday.
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Please be kind enough to post bellow the synopsis.

Joy and happiness
PathWalker

[Mu2143]

In begining of the video there was a question about this "How best to prepare" He said ;"This is a good question?" .

I can't wait for more good advise . Me on the Titanic asking the Captain! you did count the life boats did you? The captain replied ;"This is a good question"

[Mu2143]

And another great reply from our Guru. ;" If you want to enter the 4th density you have to die consciously" ,

O Wait I just turn on the TV that will help!!!

[Mu2143]

Just to get to the point this guy is a satanist

[RunningDeer]

There was a time that I liked what he had to teach. I even bought several of his books. I think that he too is feeling the Earth changes, and is not aware of how he came across. At the very least he should fire this PR person for allowing the vid to be released.

In response to the above vid, Drunvalo seems low energy and extremely unprepared. I lost count of how many times he contradicted himself. This vid would not make me want to sign up for his workshop.

Drunvalo does a disservice to those that are in search for answers. The message right out of the gate is that if you don’t have money to take his workshops to learn about the Merkaba, then you don’t get the free pass to 4D. And then goes on to say “...that there is far more information that is far more important...” He just created lack and fear for anyone willing to awaken, but hasn't the time or money for his workshop. (10 minute mark)

This is where I decided not to invest any more time in the vid. Drunvalo explains, “It was through me, from the Ascendant Masters, that the very idea of the Merkaba was presented to the Earth, and exactly how it was created." He goes on to say, "What the Earth doesn’t understand because the way it was released is that the Merkaba is not as important as we think it is....” "Huh?" (22 minute mark) Drunvalo, also implies that he’s much greater than Mother Earth. He knows. Mother doesn’t.


(22:57) You cannot get there without having the Merkaba. Period. But the idea that the Merkaba is going to change on December 21st and the ...
UPDATE: Please see post #17. It's the reason I wanted to post, but went in another direction.

[markpierre]

If I change my name to Mark Melchizedek will you guys start listening to me?

[RunningDeer]

If I change my name to Mark Melchizedek will you guys start listening to me?

What? Did you say something? :wave:

[WhiteFeather]

IMO.....Drunvalos work is enormous. His Ancient Flower of life secrets books, Volume1 and 2 are incredible. I Resonate with him well. I Love his energy. He brings alot into perspective and to the table. And no, he didnt pay me to write this post. Lol

[Mu2143]

What did David Icke stated , that people are ;"under mass hypnotic state" and ignoring what people are saying on the masss/alternative media etc and just suck it up without any spiritual discernment.
Like this so called Guru and completly ignorne that he could not even give a strait answer to some of the question people had in the letter.

Shame on you for not seeing this and shame on you for letting people fall away for the lies he spreading , this guy stated you need a merkaba otherwise you would not go to the 4th dimension.

What you need is, you going to have to get your 11th spiritual body like Bob Dean stated in one of his interviews to be onboard and not a Merkaba that is occult.

Mr Melchizedek stated (If you don't die consciously you can't get in the the 4 dimension with a body) It's a joke!!; You can always nok you self out to get in !!
Melchizedek is a spirtual title you get in the spiritual realm is NOT A MANS title like a PHD that you can glue on you that has no meaning in spiritual realm.

Your going have to re-create your self and it all has do with your spiritual bodies NOT a Merkaba. This re-creating takes time !!!!

[Anchor]

If I change my name to Mark Melchizedek will you guys start listening to me?

No.

However, that's funny and I get the point.

Initially, I confess when I first saw the name Drunvalo Melchizedek I was like, what a pretentious "new-age" t*ss*r with a name like that (see I am so non-judgmental - lol) why would I bother reading that stuff?

But that little voice inside nagged me and I did anyway, and watched some of his video's and you know what - IMO it *is* worth listening to.

Take what resonates and leave the rest.

No one is going to get this all 100% correct.

Least of all me or any of us.

We need to work together to nail the whole picture.

[markpierre]

If I change my name to Mark Melchizedek will you guys start listening to me?

What? Did you say something? :wave:

Yes, to myself again.

[markpierre]

If I change my name to Mark Melchizedek will you guys start listening to me?

No.

However, that's funny and I get the point.

Initially, I confess when I first saw the name Drunvalo Melchizedek I was like, what a pretentious "new-age" t*ss*r with a name like that (see I am so non-judgmental - lol) why would I bother reading that stuff?

But that little voice inside nagged me and I did anyway, and watched some of his video's and you know what - IMO it *is* worth listening to.

Take what resonates and leave the rest.

No one is going to get this all 100% correct.

Least of all me or any of us.

We need to work together to nail the whole picture.

I DID enjoy it. Nothing revelatory, but I don't usually bother so that was nicely different. Not really looking for more information on something I'm trying to allow to be as it is.
Not needing to 'sort it all out, or even get close' is what resonates. Information seldom resonates at all. I know what I experience.
Hey, that's just me. Not trying to make any kind of statement in that. Or whether anything is good or not. It's all really good if it helps to make turmoil and doubt tolerable.

I do enjoy seeing someone who's actually enlivened by the information he's presenting. It's pretty enlivening stuff. Then I feel it and take it on out into the day with me.
I didn't get much of that from that vid. If he's communicating stuff that he's not experiencing, it's just more distraction for me. Bad day for making videos that day, or who knows? But I don't need to have an opinion about him. Maybe what I said wasn't funny enough to not be rude, but not everybody knows me.

But I saw a friend later in the morning who brought up the same vid and under the circumstances it was uncanny, That was cool.

I think the best 'work' we can do together is to be as supportive as we can, and also honestly 'not know' together. Nothing will stop it, so that's an impending confrontation that we can help comfort in each other. See each others worth, and give it back to each other. Words don't matter as long as they combat fear and doubt. The story doesn't matter either, it's a means to an end. Or a birth, more appropriately.
We all know deep in there that all there is to fear is what seems to be too big, too overwhelming. Like our little selves can't survive it. The figuring-mapping-planning for contingencies selves that worry about their safety.

Well, they won't.

Just don't get stuck on any picture that anybody paints. This is going to be a surprise.

[RunningDeer]

I do want to point out that like you, I don't agree that one must take the workshop to move into 4D. (see below)


Shame on you for not seeing this and shame on you for letting people fall away for the lies he spreading , this guy stated you need a merkaba otherwise you would not go to the 4th dimension.



Drunvalo does a disservice to those that are in search for answers. The message right out of the gate is that if you don’t have money to take his workshops to learn about the Merkaba, then you don’t get the free pass to 4D. And then goes on to say “...that there is far more information that is far more important...” He just created lack and fear for anyone willing to awaken, but hasn't the time or money for his workshop. (10 minute mark)

[Anchor]

I do want to point out that like you, I mentioned about how one can't get to 4D if one misses his workshop. (see below)


Drunvalo does a disservice to those that are in search for answers. The message right out of the gate is that if you don’t have money to take his workshops to learn about the Merkaba, then you don’t get the free pass to 4D. And then goes on to say “...that there is far more information that is far more important...” He just created lack and fear for anyone willing to awaken, but hasn't the time or money for his workshop. (10 minute mark)

Since you are repeating this line, I want to mention that I think this is your interpretation of what he said and it certainly does not match mine.

It may surprise you that I listened to it all of it because you had said this and I didn't think that was Drunvalo's style - I was kind of surprised.

On listening to it I feel I was correct. Drunvalo mentions he has a workshop and he has material to help if you want to know more about the merkabah, but it isnt necessary to know about it. What he says is necessary is that you have one. Furthermore he goes on later to explain why the merkabah isn't the most important concern. Makes sense to me, in the same way that breathing is necessary for life, but for most, it is not the most important concern and very few understand the dynamics of breathing in any great depth - but the information is out there if they need it.

I recommend a re-listen before you go any further with what is, in my opinion, a misrepresentation of his motives.

John..

[RunningDeer]

I do want to point out that like you, I mentioned about how one can't get to 4D if one misses his workshop. (see below)


Drunvalo does a disservice to those that are in search for answers. The message right out of the gate is that if you don’t have money to take his workshops to learn about the Merkaba, then you don’t get the free pass to 4D. And then goes on to say “...that there is far more information that is far more important...” He just created lack and fear for anyone willing to awaken, but hasn't the time or money for his workshop. (10 minute mark)

Since you are repeating this line, I want to mention that I think this is your interpretation of what he said and it certainly does not match mine.

It may surprise you that I listened to it all of it because you had said this and I didn't think that was Drunvalo's style - I was kind of surprised.

I recommend a re-listen before you go any further with what is, in my opinion, a misrepresentation of his motives.

John..

Hi John,

I am in agreement that Drunvalo says that it is not as essential. But he also give mixed messages and contradicts himself about the Merkabas. Too, the unspoken message is that if you don't have the Merkabas component down, you don't get to 4D. Below, I've transcribed. This first paragraph demonstrates my comments about being disjointed. He speak of the Merkaba there and goes on in the next question.. I may have only typed 98-99% correctly:

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"They have calculated some 100,200 different kinds of Merkabas. And each one of these Merkabas takes the one Universe, the one reality, everything it is and perceives it in a different way. And so it looks and feels entirely different. We are actually looking and experiencing and being the same thing each time. It’s almost beyond our imagination what I’m talking about. But this how it is. And so we don’t really have to be too worried about at this point but we will in the 4 dimension there will be a little of this still going on because we haven’t quiet moved into oneness, fully into oneness yet. But it’s going to happen. It’s inevitable. It’s absolutely for certain it will take place in the future. And so I know from where we are now it’s hard to understand that and but oneness is really the only true reality. And what we are in right now is just a deviation (?) of oneness and we don’t understand it. But don’t worry about these other races. We are all higher races and that with all capital letters.....


(21:51)
[Question about Merkaba] "Well lets go back to the beginning, personally it was through me, through the ascendant masters, through me that the very idea of the Merkaba was presented to the earth. And exactly how it was created. What the earth doesn’t understand because the way it was released it that the Merkaba is not as important as we think it is. (huh? this makes no sense) There’s other factors that are more important, way more important than the Merkaba. And it has to do with the heart and the relationship between the heart and the brain.

(22:39)...
the Merkaba is essential as is everything else is, but not as important as we think. But to say it is not necessary as (is) that is coming from someone that has no idea of what they are talking about. I’m sorry to be so blunt. But they just don’t. Because the Merkaka is absolutely essential to move from one level to another.

(22:57)
You cannot get there without having the Merkaba. Period. But the idea that the Merkaba is going to change on December 21st and the ...

Too much contradiction for it to be believable. And the subtle points through out the dialogue that "you've got to take my workshops to learn of this Merkaba if you want to enter 4D". I still see it the same way. I have given it more time than I have ever planned on. I can live with us seeing it differently. But it has reminded me to check to see if I am too caviler with my descriptions and comments. Thank you for that, John.

WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Anchor]

Thanks for not being too confronted by my opinion - the very last thing I would want to do is get your back up :)

I concur that he could have explained this a lot better - but I am also sure he is on the level, on "our" side, and not out to make a quick buck by unduly scaring people.

Its a bit like saying you need a body to incarnate, and you absolutely cannot incarnate without a body. I don't need a workshop to remember the exact nature of my body and the relationship it has between my consciousness and the planet, but it may be quite helpful, and I don't even need to do it since that stuff happens automatically anyway.

To be honest, I think his stuff is needlessly advanced and probably only would appeal to a small slice of those awakening. People who need information about merkabah meditation can get all they need about it from him if they want.

IMHO The best part of his talk is where he says: (and I have to paraphrase here as I cant get the video where I am now)

"Dont worry, it will all be fine, it will all work out just fine"

And it will be.

Everything is going to be just fine.

People like you, other members of this forum, and us "Human kind" in general will, eventually make sure of that - and everything will be as it should be: fearless and freed.

[RunningDeer]

Thanks for not being too confronted by my opinion - the very last thing I would want to do is get your back up :)

I concur that he could have explained this a lot better - but I am also sure he is on the level, on "our" side, and not out to make a quick buck by unduly scaring people.

Its a bit like saying you need a body to incarnate, and you absolutely cannot incarnate without a body. I don't need a workshop to remember the exact nature of my body and the relationship it has between my consciousness and the planet, but it may be quite helpful, and I don't even need to do it since that stuff happens automatically anyway.

To be honest, I think his stuff is needlessly advanced and probably only would appeal to a small slice of those awakening. People who need information about merkabah meditation can get all they need about it from him if they want.

IMHO The best part of his talk is where he says: (and I have to paraphrase here as I cant get the video where I am now)

"Dont worry, it will all be fine, it will all work out just fine"

And it will be.

Everything is going to be just fine.

People like you, other members of this forum, and us "Human kind" in general will, eventually make sure of that - and everything will be as it should be: fearless and freed.

Hi John,

Initially, my plan was to speak for the beginners. Time is drawing closer. My concern is for those that come across this vid and see they don't know about the Merkaba. Drunvalo brings this point up a lot. So those that don't have the time or money for his 'secret knowledge', it may cause undue panic and fear. Especially the obvious emphasis on his words with the one telling sentence:


(22:57) You cannot get there without having the Merkaba. Period. But the idea that the Merkaba is going to change on December 21st and the ...

I agree with you, "Everything is going to be just fine". This can't be said enough. We've just got to wait for all to unfold. Those that are calm and reassured assist greatly. And I forgot that was the greater reason for posting.

Like Drunvalo, I want to get the message out there, that's it all cool. Relax. Go play. Spend time doing what you love and with the ones you love. That's all. No big profound moments needed. You've got everything you need within already.

Paula :wave:

[Wind]

New updates from Drunvalo:

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Mindblowing stuff, to say the least. He says that ascension without merkabah is almost impossible, but it would take hours to explain it? Even though I know that I am from the higher densities I couldn't ascend without the merkabah? I trust him, but it makes me wonder.

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The merkaba is not a space ship, or indeed, any other physical object. The merkaba is the shape that appears in the minds eye when one works the sacral and throat chakras simultaneously. It will also spontaneously appear when working the nasal chakra, and also sometimes the pineal. We should not even try to partake of the very real benefits of the merkaba unless we have a healthy psyche, a healthy attitude to sex and sexuality, and we are in the habit of speaking our truth. It is also essential to integrate all shadow aspects of ourselves, and to unite the masculine and feminine energies within the heartspace. To work with the merkaba without these pre-requisites is pointless. Drunvolo did not "invent" the merkaba, nor did he "present" it to earth. What does he think the Star of David represents?

[Ernie Nemeth]

DRunvalo has been haunted by a mighty spirit for decades now.(haunted, hunted, interrupted). What can that be like, I've no idea. But I imagine it has its moments both negative and positive.

I was captivated by his work, especially the first book. So much so that I asked my guides to show me how to set up my spinning vorticies, the Merkaba. For months I spun them this way and that until I had a working system in place. I can start up the energy vortex in minutes. I even began a thread about The Tree of Life.

But...there is a danger in the work that is hard to describe. Working directly with the Merkaba does enable a deeper esoteric flow to arise in the aspirant. However, it also opens doorway, or portals, that announce your presence to esoteric beings - not all of whom are blessed and holy. There lies the danger.

For me personally, I set his second book aside for a time I am more capable and knowledgable in these areas. My higher self has so cautioned me and I respect their request to drop the matter for now.

I very much respect Drunvalo and his work. For those that are ready, there is much to learn on this particular path. All IMHO, of course.

[Wind]

New video:

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Personally I don't believe that merkaba is required for ascension. Dolores Cannon doesn't talk about it and she has alot of information. Yes, I do believe that ascension is about to occur very soon. But I think that it's good that the info's out there... But it's not for me neither. Drunvalo is a good man and I have a huge amount of respect for him.

[goinghome2012]

What's with the Drunvalo bashing? He's trying to prepare the mind and heart for ascension and or dimensional shift into unity consciousness. There are many ways of the journey to the heart, Drunvalo's ways are one of them. He is not a demon or a satanist. The war between good and evil is over. Forgiveness is the key, then compassion and eventually unity consciousness of unconditional love.

In my opinion there have been many Christians who are attacking other methods of connection to God on this forum. i believe many belief systems are falling apart including Christianity and they are holding on as tight as they can to keep it together with attacking other spirituality methods and journey's.

spread the peace, love and truth.

spread the peace nad love

[spiritwind]

I took a Flower of Life workshop in August of 2007 and really got a lot out of it. I paid $222 for a full 3 days of fun, group exchange, and info, which I thought was worth it. The meditation itself takes a little bit of effort to learn but not that bad. One young man who took the class already had a huge field of energy around him even before he took the class and that’s what our instructor said. It’s really a field of energy that is always there but kind of in a dormant state for most of us and some are just coming in with their “field” already activated and don’t even really need to take any classes. I think this will happen spontaneously for many others, kind of like the hundredth monkey thing. Just my take on it. I can’t listen to all the videos everyone posts even though I would like to because of ongoing computer issues. I had my daughter dowse my energy field before and after doing the meditation and there was definitely a big difference. I think most young people today have a naturally bigger energy field than most adults before the system “dumbs” them down too much. At least that’s been my experience when playing around with dowsing rods. Trees are fun to dowse too.

[Wind]

New meditation video from Drunvalo.

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[goinghome2012]

Just to get to the point this guy is a satanist

Christianity is a myth, say goodbye to duality, we are one:o

[Feritciva]

What's with the Drunvalo bashing?


Not only Drunvalo bashing, David Wilcock bashing, Drake bashing, channeling bashing, Bashar-bashing, x bashing, y bashing, the list goes on and on..

I'm extremely disappointed with what Project Avalon has become, a ground for inflated-egos disguised under "spiritual seekers". I think Bill should think of closing this forum, kind of disbanding a high-quality progressive rock group before turning into mediocre pop-band. Yes, just as happened to Genesis (from Peter Gabriel's Genesis to Phil Collins' Genesis).

[modwiz]

What's with the Drunvalo bashing?


Not only Drunvalo bashing, David Wilcock bashing, Drake bashing, channeling bashing, Bashar-bashing, x bashing, y bashing, the list goes on and on..

I'm extremely disappointed with what Project Avalon has become, a ground for inflated-egos disguised under "spiritual seekers". I think Bill should think of closing this forum, kind of disbanding a high-quality progressive rock group before turning into mediocre pop-band. Yes, just as happened to Genesis (from Peter Gabriel's Genesis to Phil Collins' Genesis).

I think you will find that many, not all, bashers have little positive to say about any subject. They contribute little of any value to the forum at all. Like the person trying to be funny in a movie theater or while another is speaking, they have no real act to take to the stage, but find easy picking in ripping things down. Ripping down is something any misanthrope can do. Creating something, of even questionable value, is something few are capable of.

Now, is this behavior freelance, or is it deliberate? Probably some of each.

[Mu2143]

Just to get to the point this guy is a satanist

Christianity is a myth, say goodbye to duality, we are one:o

A defenition of a Satanist is some one who is working for the PTB who are worshiping lucifer as a GOD who are involved in satanic rituals.

Remember White hats/Black hats? Which side of the illuminati is he working for ? and you say "The illuminati".

[Mu2143]

What's with the Drunvalo bashing? He's trying to prepare the mind and heart for ascension and or dimensional shift into unity consciousness. There are many ways of the journey to the heart, Drunvalo's ways are one of them. He is not a demon or a satanist. The war between good and evil is over. Forgiveness is the key, then compassion and eventually unity consciousness of unconditional love.

In my opinion there have been many Christians who are attacking other methods of connection to God on this forum. i believe many belief systems are falling apart including Christianity and they are holding on as tight as they can to keep it together with attacking other spirituality methods and journey's.

spread the peace, love and truth.

spread the peace nad love

Thats all great ,but we are still in the age of deception and the PTB are still trying to push there aganda on to us.

And there making real progress in pushing there New Age religion.

And Yeshua Hamashiach is mostly known as Jesus Christ and he was not religious who was a teacher of "the way" They turned it in to Christianity. So they confuse does who are religious them self with out knowning they are

Did you know that Melchizedek is a title when you have acquired your 9th spiritual body ?

[PathWalker]

Here is a collection of the last 5 episodes.
To MHO the most informative about the Merkaba is Episode 4.
And most important teaching is about the tiny sacred space in the heart.
The teaching about the sacred space in the heart is considered ultra secret by indigenous and mystic teachings all over the world.

The human power is in creation from the heart space. The most locked secret all over the world for ages is the human power and potential to create.

If you refuse it you will not get it. As simple as that.

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And here is the important audio where he explains ascension, resurrection and dieing.
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[PathWalker]

I have great respect to Drunvalo and his teaching.
In essence each person that is spiritually evolving should question and evaluate the information with their internal authority.

The old school of external imposed authority about spirituality (religion, science, ideology) is dissipating.

[Wind]

New episode.

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I love that stuff! There is absolutely nothing to be worried about.

[gooty64]

Hi Starseed, thanks for posting part 6.

I am taking the 4 day workshop ATIH next weekend. If anyone else on here has taken the workshop I am interested in comparing notes and talking about it.

A small (private!) group may be in order, if there are a few that are interested. Let me know.

Gooty/Alan