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StarDust
2nd May 2012, 03:10
John Kettler reports: ETs/EDs Raid Bremerhaven, Germany Last Week; “Disappear” Dolphin Sub, Nuke & Crew While Under Comprehensive NATO & Intelligence Agency Surveillance!

http://johnkettler.com/etseds-raid-germany-take-dolphin-sub-nuke/

UnrealDreams
2nd May 2012, 03:35
Thanks for this Stardust!!

This goes along with what I have been "feeling" lately regarding ET intervention.

Much love-

StarDust
2nd May 2012, 03:45
Thanks for this Stardust!!

This goes along with what I have been "feeling" lately regarding ET intervention.

Much love-

John Kettler is one of the newest whistle blowers on the scene. His energy signature feels that he is helping with good intent. If you haven't already done so, I suggest checking out fellow PA member Kimberly's recent interview with him. He has a great deal of information about the ET/ED help we are receiving at this time. I found the interview to be very informative and helpful to seeing the bigger picture in play.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44437-John-Kettler-intrview-with-Kimberely-4-24-12-ET-ED-assistance-for-2012-transformation

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OnyxKnight
2nd May 2012, 08:02
John Kettler is a con.

Just my personal experience with him.

Firinn
2nd May 2012, 08:31
What experience is that Onyx?

jackovesk
2nd May 2012, 09:07
I'm sorry to say I don't believe it for second...:nono:

Especially when I see a 'Thread' like this one (Trying to Link these 2 Stories together) on another Forum a current Member here still keeps promoting...:faint:


VT Gordon Duff ask "Where did the German Sub and Nuke Go? ET/EDs "We took it!"

If this is in the wrong spot, please move it. But, wanted to share. . It's News, ET/EDs taking another Sub and confirmation from reliable mainstream source.

From Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff:

Excerpt:


Now, to put this is American English.

A nuclear weapon that wasn’t supposed to exist, a single 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, one of four being tracked, was seen being loaded at the German port of Bemerhaven, Germany.

The groups assisting in what we were informed was a counter-terrorism surveillance operation were the American NSA, British MI 6, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the British Royal Navy. The “device” was loaded onto a Germany built “Dolphin” submarine and left the harbour doing 7.5 knots.

The submarine disappeared while being tracked by every sophisticated device NATO seems to be able to own or borrow.

At least one of those from among the listed agencies was arrested by the local police force in Oxford, their electronic surveillance gear siezed, were confined for 12 hours despite being above arrest and detention as a senior NATO intelligence officer.

Attempts to track the sub in the busy harbour were in vain and it is unknown what the nationality of the crew were or the destination, whether the UK, the US or some place in the Middle East.

What we do know is that Germany and other NATO nations, in a highly disputed exception to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, had held 182 such weapons until all had supposedly been given back to the United States in 2005.

From John Kettler (recent interviews include Kimberly (Project Avalon Member), Robert Stanley (Unicus Magazine) of John Kettler Investigates:

Excerpt:


ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionsals) of the Liberation Forces raided Angela Merkel’s Germany last week, a move expected by the writer, given Germany’s decades of WMD (weapons of mass destruction) proliferation (chemical weapons and precursors, supplying missile expertise, illegal sale of ultra centrifuges to anyone with cash, plus providing quiet Diesel-electric subs to Israel, but set up to allow for rapid conversion to nuclear cruise missile launch platforms). Call the ETs/EDS most unhappy!

The “normal” part of this amazing tale is here, in a withering article by Senior Editor Gordon Duff of Veteran’s Today, but what concerns us is the hidden side of this, the ETs/EDs‘ disappearing of a Dolphin sub, crew and highly illegal 0.5 megaton nuclear weapon after they put to sea (reportedly then making 7.5 knots in crowded Bremerhaven Harbor)–while under comprehensive surveillance by both NATO and multiple international intelligence agencies from the U.S., U.K., and Germany! The ETs/EDs say if anyone asks “Where’s the sub?” the answer is “We have it!”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/30/raw-reports-nuclear-threat-from-germany/
http://johnkettler.com/etseds-raid-germany-take-dolphin-sub-nuke/

Forum Link: http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?823-VT-Gordon-Duff-ask-quot-Where-did-the-German-Sub-and-Nuke-Go-ET-EDs-quot-We-took-it!-quot&p=3477#post3477

PS - Wishful thinking at best...:yes4:

apokalypse
2nd May 2012, 09:33
people really need to aware...if not careful this whole thing will play out get rid of 3 level and have a new one just lie what Alex Collier said in his interview with Carlos Shiney Demise which resonate with me most.


i find Kettler more entertaining than Drake, just can't listen to him any more...

modwiz
2nd May 2012, 09:42
people really need to aware...if not careful this whole thing will play out get rid of 3 level and have a new one just lie what Alex Collier said in his interview with Carlos Shiney Demise which resonate with me most.


i find Kettler more entertaining than Drake, just can't listen to him any more...

Interesting word choice.

OnyxKnight
2nd May 2012, 10:46
Interesting word choice.

That's what I think is wrong with this alternative movement. It has become to come on these places and get entertained by the topics.

Its a reason why stopped posting on my experiences. I saw too many remarks with the "entertaining" word in them. It puts you off really. To be thought that you do this seriously, and people only digest you as entertainment.

And you will see them in another thread telling others to turn off their TV sets and stop watching television and get entertained while other more serious things happen out there.


What experience is that Onyx?

I went to check out what this guy is all about, and he became interesting to me, so I decided I would comment, when I saw something I disagreed with, and wanted to offer a correction.

The comments were moderated, and I tried several times, with different approaches, asking nicely, and reminding that its just some correction, that I get the comment posted, but they never reached the blog.

If there is anything even remotely dissimilar to what he is preaching out there, he does not post those comments. You can check his blog and you will see all his commentators can be painted with one color.

He is aligned with another person (whom I have some history of contact) and they are spreading disinformation. Lately I'm thinking that they do this on purpose too.

Firinn
2nd May 2012, 11:08
Thanks for the info OnyxKnight.

wynderer
2nd May 2012, 11:15
besides, how do we know, if the ET/EDs took them, whether or not they were going to harvest their blood & body parts, as the Human mutilation thread documents

that investigator advised his MUFON audience: 'If you see a UFO, run like hell!'


I'm sorry to say I don't believe it for second...:nono:

Especially when I see a 'Thread' like this one (Trying to Link these 2 Stories together) on another Forum a current Member here still keeps promoting...:faint:


VT Gordon Duff ask "Where did the German Sub and Nuke Go? ET/EDs "We took it!"

If this is in the wrong spot, please move it. But, wanted to share. . It's News, ET/EDs taking another Sub and confirmation from reliable mainstream source.

From Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff:

Excerpt:


Now, to put this is American English.

A nuclear weapon that wasn’t supposed to exist, a single 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, one of four being tracked, was seen being loaded at the German port of Bemerhaven, Germany.

The groups assisting in what we were informed was a counter-terrorism surveillance operation were the American NSA, British MI 6, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the British Royal Navy. The “device” was loaded onto a Germany built “Dolphin” submarine and left the harbour doing 7.5 knots.

The submarine disappeared while being tracked by every sophisticated device NATO seems to be able to own or borrow.

At least one of those from among the listed agencies was arrested by the local police force in Oxford, their electronic surveillance gear siezed, were confined for 12 hours despite being above arrest and detention as a senior NATO intelligence officer.

Attempts to track the sub in the busy harbour were in vain and it is unknown what the nationality of the crew were or the destination, whether the UK, the US or some place in the Middle East.

What we do know is that Germany and other NATO nations, in a highly disputed exception to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, had held 182 such weapons until all had supposedly been given back to the United States in 2005.

From John Kettler (recent interviews include Kimberly (Project Avalon Member), Robert Stanley (Unicus Magazine) of John Kettler Investigates:

Excerpt:


ETs/EDs (extraterrestrials/extradimensionsals) of the Liberation Forces raided Angela Merkel’s Germany last week, a move expected by the writer, given Germany’s decades of WMD (weapons of mass destruction) proliferation (chemical weapons and precursors, supplying missile expertise, illegal sale of ultra centrifuges to anyone with cash, plus providing quiet Diesel-electric subs to Israel, but set up to allow for rapid conversion to nuclear cruise missile launch platforms). Call the ETs/EDS most unhappy!

The “normal” part of this amazing tale is here, in a withering article by Senior Editor Gordon Duff of Veteran’s Today, but what concerns us is the hidden side of this, the ETs/EDs‘ disappearing of a Dolphin sub, crew and highly illegal 0.5 megaton nuclear weapon after they put to sea (reportedly then making 7.5 knots in crowded Bremerhaven Harbor)–while under comprehensive surveillance by both NATO and multiple international intelligence agencies from the U.S., U.K., and Germany! The ETs/EDs say if anyone asks “Where’s the sub?” the answer is “We have it!”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/30/raw-reports-nuclear-threat-from-germany/
http://johnkettler.com/etseds-raid-germany-take-dolphin-sub-nuke/

Forum Link: http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?823-VT-Gordon-Duff-ask-quot-Where-did-the-German-Sub-and-Nuke-Go-ET-EDs-quot-We-took-it!-quot&p=3477#post3477

PS - Wishful thinking at best...:yes4:

mountain_jim
2nd May 2012, 14:52
I do find it interesting that Duff included Kettler's info at the end of his article.

I had not seen Duff going that far 'out there' in his articles previously.

I also recommend listening to Kimberley's patient and respectful interview with Kettler to get an intro to his claims.

I even got my (long-winded) NS-f'ing-A question asked and answered in that interview.

I am keeping an open mind. We do have military men testimonies connecting UFOs with nuclear missile site power failures and such, so it's not impossible to consider that some of this type of activity could be true.

But I would hope for and expect more ET help against US Dark Activities as well, if that were the case.

StarDust
2nd May 2012, 17:38
besides, how do we know, if the ET/EDs took them, whether or not they were going to harvest their blood & body parts, as the Human mutilation thread documents

that investigator advised his MUFON audience: 'If you see a UFO, run like hell!'

Interesting perspective, however, you do prefer to look on the dark side of things.

wynderer
2nd May 2012, 18:41
as i see it , i don't prefer to look on the dark side of things --

as i see it the 'dark side of things' has been continually forced right in my face, in part because of my compassion for all living beings -- i can't ignore what is being done to the children & animals like most of you can --

& in part because of my bloodline & therefore an abductee by the very possessive Reptilians

i'd MUCH rather know the Truth, anytime, anywhere , than hold on to my warm fuzzy feelings at all costs





besides, how do we know, if the ET/EDs took them, whether or not they were going to harvest their blood & body parts, as the Human mutilation thread documents

that investigator advised his MUFON audience: 'If you see a UFO, run like hell!'

Interesting perspective, however, you do prefer to look on the dark side of things.

StarDust
2nd May 2012, 19:31
as i see it , i don't prefer to look on the dark side of things --

as i see it the 'dark side of things' has been continually forced right in my face, in part because of my compassion for all living beings -- i can't ignore what is being done to the children & animals like most of you can --

& in part because of my bloodline & therefore an abductee by the very possessive Reptilians

i'd MUCH rather know the Truth, anytime, anywhere , than hold on to my warm fuzzy feelings at all costs


If that is your reality then I wish you well on your journey. Letting the "geckos on steroids with a bad attitude" keep you in low vibration is a choice. It's all about your vibratory frequency, yet you refuse to acknowledge that aspect of the ascension process. Quit allowing yourself to be the victim and do something to lift yourself up. You are 100% responsible for your station in life, regardless of weather you can admit that or not. The "wo is me" attitude combined with the dismal outlook for humanity, is quite frankly a buzz kill! If you wonder why people are not listening to your message, this is essentially why. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't go about providing education for those who are seeking, but realize that sometimes you need to love yourself, before you can help others. In the interim, your low resonance energy signature will only attract its own kind.

Lastly, quit assuming what you know about anyone's compassion for children and animals. Not everyone needs to hop on a soapbox and exclaim to the world in every thread that no one cares. You couldn't be further from the truth!

wynderer
2nd May 2012, 19:35
you are in for a rude & rough awakening, my friend -- Vivek posted re starting a thread about the ascension lie -- harvest is more like it for most of you



as i see it , i don't prefer to look on the dark side of things --

as i see it the 'dark side of things' has been continually forced right in my face, in part because of my compassion for all living beings -- i can't ignore what is being done to the children & animals like most of you can --

& in part because of my bloodline & therefore an abductee by the very possessive Reptilians

i'd MUCH rather know the Truth, anytime, anywhere , than hold on to my warm fuzzy feelings at all costs


If that is your reality then I wish you well on your journey. Letting the "geckos on steroids with a bad attitude" keep you in low vibration is a choice. It's all about your vibratory frequency, yet you refuse to acknowledge that aspect of the ascension process. Quit allowing yourself to be the victim and do something to lift yourself up. You are 100% responsible for your station in life, regardless of weather you can admit that or not. The "wo is me" attitude combined with the dismal outlook for humanity, is quite frankly a buzz kill! If you wonder why people are not listening to your message, this is essentially why. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't go about providing education for those who are seeking, but realize that sometimes you need to love yourself, before you can help others. In the interim, your low resonance energy signature will only attract its own kind.

StarDust
2nd May 2012, 19:41
you are in for a rude & rough awakening, my friend -- Vivek posted re starting a thread about the ascension lie -- harvest is more like it for most of you


If that is your reality then I wish you well on your journey. Letting the "geckos on steroids with a bad attitude" keep you in low vibration is a choice. It's all about your vibratory frequency, yet you refuse to acknowledge that aspect of the ascension process. Quit allowing yourself to be the victim and do something to lift yourself up. ...

What a great idea! It's time that some of you started your own doom/gloom/death/destruction threads and quit crapping on everyone else's thoughts that don't coincide with your own dismal outlook. So go for it! I will certainly let you have your space to express yourself where you have the floor all to your lonesome selves and will have the good sense to stay out of it. Misery loves company so take it one step forward and start your own forum. You can call it "Realists with Reptile Issues". You can have that one for free…no charge.

Franny
2nd May 2012, 20:02
Some corroborating evidence by JK would be most helpful. I believe a lot of people would like to see something to back up information of this sort. Not all want or need evidence, but it would be appreciated by most.

Something very helpful would be for them to head over to Japan and help with the Fukushima reactor. Their assistance would be most appreciated there. Maybe theyʻre very busy neutralizing nukes the like, which is a good thing. But Fukushima has been an ongoing disaster for more than a year. I hope they can find out about it soon and head over there to help the planet.

wynderer
2nd May 2012, 20:04
sorry -- not my intention to bum you out or intrude on your thread -- i'll respect your wishes & stay away

StarDust
2nd May 2012, 20:16
sorry -- not my intention to bum you out or intrude on your thread -- i'll respect your wishes & stay away

Anyone is welcome to contribute as long as one has something productive to add to the conversation. If one does not believe in the content of the thread then I suggest either switching threads or stating once, and only once, that you don't agree and why. I'm blown away at the number of people on this forum that wish for their point to be known at all costs. And this usually digresses into points the are completely off topic.

That is where Vivek's idea is a great one…start another thread for detractors or proponents of an opposing view; however you wish to perceive it. Again, I'm all for honest discussion/debate as long as it stays on topic and is handled in a civil manner with respect for all points of view.

ThePythonicCow
3rd May 2012, 04:59
If one does not believe in the content of the thread then I suggest either switching threads or stating once, and only once, that you don't agree and why.
Good advice ... I wish more people took that approach :).

GoodETxSG
3rd May 2012, 05:39
If one does not believe in the content of the thread then I suggest either switching threads or stating once, and only once, that you don't agree and why.
Good advice ... I wish more people took that approach :).

Yes sir, Me too... and I fully intend on doing just that starting........ NOW! For real...

modwiz
3rd May 2012, 06:04
I do find it interesting that Duff included Kettler's info at the end of his article.

I had not seen Duff going that far 'out there' in his articles previously.

I also recommend listening to Kimberley's patient and respectful interview with Kettler to get an intro to his claims.

I even got my (long-winded) NS-f'ing-A question asked and answered in that interview.

I am keeping an open mind. We do have military men testimonies connecting UFOs with nuclear missile site power failures and such, so it's not impossible to consider that some of this type of activity could be true.

But I would hope for and expect more ET help against US Dark Activities as well, if that were the case.

I left a comment at VT about the inclusion of the Kettler information and mentioned that I liked it. Since Jim Dean edits Duff's work this inclusion would have the blessing of them both. Duff has to watch how he informs us to stay in the good graces of his intel people. Sometimes he just drops things in the mix and you need to know he is winking and saying, "This is as far as I can go, right now". His regular readers are getting to know his style and this ET/ED drop is huge, IMO. And, no mistake.

StarDust
3rd May 2012, 06:21
I do find it interesting that Duff included Kettler's info at the end of his article.

I had not seen Duff going that far 'out there' in his articles previously.

I also recommend listening to Kimberley's patient and respectful interview with Kettler to get an intro to his claims.

I even got my (long-winded) NS-f'ing-A question asked and answered in that interview.

I am keeping an open mind. We do have military men testimonies connecting UFOs with nuclear missile site power failures and such, so it's not impossible to consider that some of this type of activity could be true.

But I would hope for and expect more ET help against US Dark Activities as well, if that were the case.

I left a comment at VT about the inclusion of the Kettler information and mentioned that I liked it. Since Jim Dean edits Duff's work this inclusion would have the blessing of them both. Duff has to watch how he informs us to stay in the good graces of his intel people. Sometimes he just drops things in the mix and you need to know he is winking and saying, "This is as far as I can go, right now". His regular readers are getting to know his style and this ET/ED drop is huge, IMO. And, no mistake.

The messaging has a great deal of consistency across many sources. I do not believe that this is coincidental or by collusion. The truth lays within.