Bill Ryan WILL eat his hat -- guaranteed.

[Mozart]

Avalonians,


please delete at least most of the OP if you quote it[/U]?]


Bill Ryan has kindly offered to eat his hat and put it on You Tube if 15 out of 19 of these people listed below are arrested on or before Sept 30th, in response to my offer to make a bet with anyone in Avalon that at least 15 out of these 19 people listed below would be arrested, to wit:


Bill Clinton,

Barrack Obama,

George H W Bush,

George W Bush,

Donald Rumsfeld,

Paul Wolfowitz,

Richard Perle,

Dick Cheney,

Timothy Geithner,

Henry (Hank) Paulson,

Ben Bernanke,

Jamie Dimon (JPMorgan),

Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman),

Henry Kissinger,

Zbigniew Brzezinski,

David Rockefeller,

Jacob Rothschild,

The Pope

The Queen of England


The bet started out as a friendly bet between Dennis Leahy [ http://www.resetbutton2012.org/ ] and Paul, our illustrious Administrator, over a bet of only 5 out of the listed 19 to be arrested.


I upped the stakes by daring to make a bet of at least 15 out of those 19 to be arrested. I wish that I had gone with the number of 13 out of 19 ... more poetic, but that’s ok. Bill -- if you want to base the bet on 13 out of 19 being arrested, I'll go for that. More poetic, yes?


Then Bill upped the stakes further by offering to eat his hat “if they [I]are arrested” and to put this event on You Tube.


Here’s the original bet-related thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43958-Drake-and-Teri-a-contrary-view.&p=475638#post475638


And here’s what Bill said in his post:





I'm willing to bet a whole case of raw milk on having 15 out of those aforementioned 19 bastards to be arrested. Any takers?

~Mozart

I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.) :)

Translation: Nothing of this kind will happen. Wilcock is being taken for a ride, although he's normally pretty smart. It's disinfo, folks. Joel Skousen called it the other day talking to Alex Jones. It's a distracting sideshow. There are very serious issues in the world and (as with Elenin, 11-11-11, etc etc last year), your attention is being diverted.


So, I want to say this to Bill: You will eat your hat! (I'm saying this with a smile):yo:


And it's his straw hat, not the leather one!


And you know what? Bill will LOVE to be in a position to eat that hat and put it on You Tube.


You know why? It’s because the elites will have been decisively defeated and that We the People of the world will have won! That's worth the price of eating a hat, yes?


This is the goal, the dream, the impossible dream that Bill and Kerry dared to dream a long, long time ago when they embarked on their brave, lonely road in starting their original Project Camelot site by holding up little, bitty cameras and boldly interviewing people whom they felt to have valuable and useful information that could shed light on the dark bastards.


And now the original Project Camelot site stands, hands-down, the best library of whistleblower information on the Internet and that's an amazing accomplishment. Not only that, the transcripts on the original Project Camelot have been translated to many languages all over the world, so that's a wonderful force multiplier of spreading truth and information world-wide.


And the world IS awakening.


And now look at where we are right now:

• We have a 138-nation alliance that has aligned to defeat/stop the dark bastard elites;

• We have a new financial system that apparently will be far more transparent than any system yet devised in human history – the Internet will be the key vector of transparency;

• We have The Plan that has been planned for decades by the truly Liberty-loving, Constitution-supporting military men in the US military with a least 80% of the military who would immediately be in full support of the mass arrests once they start to happen;

• Drake is just a spokesman of The Plan that has been planned for decades; The Plan has had to make adjustments, but it seems to be proceeding along just fine. It's a war, so adjustments and delays have to be expected -- but, mark my words, the D-Day defeat for the elites is surely coming!

• We have very clear signs of the dark bastard elites being really desperate to grab, steal and plunder whatever money that they can from anywhere, anyone. Those signs are very clear. The dark bastards have been starved of their funds, their funny money that they thought that was theirs, but, dammit, that money/wealth is OUR WEALTH ... we want it back!

• We have had unprecedented ET interference / intervention in human affairs in their abilities to blatantly and publicly stop the efforts of the dark bastards to start WWIII. Over 40 separate “Divine” intervention events have happened so far.

• We have the tremendous body of information presented by David Wilcock, whose work and dreams – keep in mind that his source for those dreams is the SAME source that gave Edgar Cayce his information in 14,000+ readings that have historically been proven to be 99% accurate – have strongly and blatantly pushed David to be involved to support the mass arrests.

• And many more signs of the times that support a full unfolding of the positive Timeline One in which the common people in our world don’t just “survive” – they THRIVE! Project Camelot was instrumental in first bringing forth to our world the information about the two key timelines – one a negative one and the other a positive one. The positive one is now very dominant!

• Cosmic timing -- the upcoming Grand Cross on June 5th/6th is an event that will complete the utter and total defeat of the 13,000-year patriarchy that has long dominated and afflicted our world. The Illoonynaughties are the culmination of the patriarchal era. It's time is over. They are done. Stick a fork into those bastards. It's time to bring in the Venusian Goddess and her beauty, compassion, love, healing, empathy, etc, to our world. It's time. Cosmic time.


So, here’s what I suggest with the idea of Bill happily eating his hat:

1) Bill can eat just a bit of his straw hat – just a few bites well chewed and swallowed, assisted by good-ole raw milk. Leave most of the hat uneaten.

2) To record this eat-the-hat event on You Tube; Bill can then post it to our delight on Avalon.

3) For Bill to put his uneaten hat on eBay for auction and let’s have a fun bidding war for that hat! Bill is famous ... so that hat could go for a good chunk of money, I think.

4) Then Bill could put that money that’s gained from the sale of the hat to something positive and useful ... feel free to share your ideas of what Bill ought to do with that hat money.


When I was treating Bill to a dinner back in early 2011, someone recognized Bill and was very excited to meet him like a celebrity. That was fun to see. I love Bill's energy and sincerity in his mission to help our world become free again.


I’ve known Bill for a long time and I’m honored to have served him in working with him in the production of the many transcripts that are on the Project Camelot site. Here’s the link for those transcripts:


http://projectcamelotportal.com/transcripts.html


I only did the team coordinating and editing on many of the transcripts, but those transcripts would not have happened at all without the backup coordinator, who is a member of Avalon, but this person likes to be incognito, as this person is very secure in who this person is -- so a shout-out to this person's critical role in those transcripts! And the transcribers themselves have been awesome in their gritty, hard work in getting the transcripts done. I'm a nearly deaf guy, so I'm utterly helpless without the transcribers and my backup coordinator.


So, the point is -- it was a team effort.


Likewise with the mass arrest scenario -- it's a team effort.


Bill and David have long had differences in their approaches to how to deal with those dark bastard elites – and those differences are in play here in the “Drake Drama” with Bill being fairly convinced that the whole mass arrest hoopla is misdirection and with David being in full support of the mass arrests of the dark bastards.


But let’s not misunderstand Bill – he’d LOVE to have the dark bastards arrested and for our world to have peace returned world-wide, to have the free energy devices released and many, many more things. Bill would absolutely love that!


But Bill has seen and experienced the persistent, relentless and brutal dark side of the dark bastard Luciferian elites for so damn long that I cannot blame him for thinking that this mass arrest hoopla is just yet another misdirection, another game, another false hope that’s really hope-killing dope for the masses. I can’t blame Bill at all for thinking that way. He's seen it happen over and over and over again.


Once we win our world back and are on the mend, world-wide, I can see Bill being a very happy camper – literally, as he’s a skilled mountaineering man – out there climbing up some mountain somewhere with joy in his heart that the dark bastard elites will have been finally defeated by our own human house-cleaning that we will have done, assisted by the ETs, of course. Bill's job will be done.


Impossible Dream Accomplished.


Bill Ryan has played a huge role in this awakening of our world through the original Project Camelot website and Project Avalon, so I take my hat off to Bill ... but I won’t let him eat my hat! :hat:


And I want to thank Bill for creating the Avalon forum that’s, hands-down, the best forum on the Internet. I love this forum and the people in it.


So, to Bill: Thank you, Sir!


So this mass arrest effort has been a team effort, so even though we have many positive signs of positive movements towards the final defeat of the dark bastard elites, we cannot afford to back off the pressure -- it's time for a full-court press and nail them!


~Mozart

[OnyxKnight]

I'm siding with Bill on this.

Should I be eating my pink(ish) underpants?

But this is a another bet, separate from yours with Bill. If you lose, you eat your socks!

Along with what you had to bet with Bill.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I see some people missing from that list. Hillary Clinton, Karl Rove, George Soros, Justin Bieber....

[markoid]

I see some people missing form that list..... Justin Bieber....
Excellent!!...:pound:

[indigopete]

Avalonians,
information presented by David Wilcock, whose work and dreams – keep in mind that his source for those dreams is the SAME source that gave Edgar Cayce his information in 14,000+ readings that have historically been proven to be 99% accurate

~Mozart

One thing you can be sure of, Mozart, is that the cabal will remain in place as long as this kind of complacent, delussional thinking prevails. If David Wilcock's dreams have any bearing on reality, then so do those of the other 7 Billion in this world so you might do well to take those into account also.

I feel a bit like telling my daughter that there's no Santa Claus saying this so I apologise if I puncture anyone's balloon, but it has to be said.

There are not going to be any "mass arrests" a la Wilcock / Drake. Not this week, next week or anytime soon. It doesn't a rocket scientist to deduce that. The "group that's not a group" is fiction and even in that fictional world they are not even in control of a single broadcasting network or station (by Drake's own admission).

This is Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the joint cheifs of staff . . . http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/world/americas/new-military-chief-faces-economic-challenges.html?_r=1&ref=jointchiefsofstaff

Gen. Dempsey and his colleges have not commissioned Drake to promote the "Mass arrest" agenda and they are not about to "knock themselves out" and run amock arresting the very people that they've spent their lives clawing up the ladder of seniority to serve.

Although I realise that might be cause for disappointment amongst many, it shouldn't be. As I described in another post, there are plenty of reasons for being optimistic about real change for the better going on in the world.

Pete

[Fred Steeves]

I see some people missing form that list. Hillary Clinton, Karl Rove, George Soros, Justin Bieber....

Justin Bieber??? Is that just for being a stupid pop icon, or have I really missed the boat somewhere on this one?http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/fie.gif

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I'm siding with Bill on this.

Should I be eating my pink(ish) underpants?

But this is a another bet, separate from yours with Bill. If you lose, you eat your socks!

Along with what you had to bet with Bill.


I`m siding with Hat, wtf did Hat do deserve this?? Hat had no say whatsoever in this bet!!

Getting eaten alive on Youtube? You people have no compassion or moral compass?

1. Well oposite to what i said above, eating just a small portion of Hat is kinda cheap and a waste of some good Hat, when eating Hat one should eat the whole Hat and thank and appriciate Hat for its loyal years of service and giving its life to sustain another life.( To live and fight another day)

2. Does Hat get interviewed before being eaten on youtube? What is the protocol here, does Hat get an opportunity to speak its mind on camera( Hat has seen and heard things beyond all imagination first hand!!)

3. Selling Hat to a new owner sounds like slavery to me, FREE HAT, FREE HAT, must consult Marcus Garvey`s spirit about what to do here.

4. When Hat does get sold, it would be nice if the money would be donated to the Avalon pub, so we can at least toast to Hat for his sacrifices made during many years of being of service and being stuck on someone`s sticky head.

A TOAST TO HAT.

[andrewgreen]

Its like a chess match and if you tell someone your moves before you make them you become easy to stop. If the good guys on our side are actually shouting out their moves it suggests they are not very good players.

Lets hope this isn't our actual plan and the people shouting out aren't our real players. As to the prospect of it actually happening................

[Humble Janitor]

I'm betting that no one is arrested by September 30th.

Sorry, I don't buy this malarkey that Wilcock and Fulford are pushing anymore.

Want it to be true regardless. There are people who deserve to be locked up on that list.

[Anchor]

Funny thread :)

I hope Bill reads it.

[sdv]

Why end of September? First it was definitely in April (from Drake and endorsed by DW), then there was talk about 30-45 days which took the date to round about end of May, and then the goalposts moved to end of June, and now end of September. Would that be September 2012?

Face it Drake groupies - Bill has already won the bet.

[Unified Serenity]

I want to see the Drake groupies eating humble pie at the end of this bet cycle. We see this dog and pony show every other month, and it's just another reason why we who question all new "stars" see the writing on the wall.

[GoodETxSG]

I love it. I know the bet was over certain people being arrested. I agree the list should have been larger. But before long we would have a list of hundreds. I cannot wait to see the results.

[foreverfan]

Considering how long he's been wearing that hat, it's got to taste really nasty.
Man oh man... Does he get some salsa or dip with that. Can he cook it into tortillas?
Imagine the ingestion, heartburn, diarrhea... the toxins alone might kill him.

http://projectcamelot.org/bill_anglo_saxon_million_screenshot.jpg

[Mozart]

1) Yes, I'll eat a part of a dirty sock, sure. One dirty cotton sock with little pieces cut from it -- no way in hell could I tear that sock with my teeth! And not a whole, eff'n sock, let alone a bunch of socks! And that's only if I lose this bet, which I won't.


2) The list of people on that list of 19 people is the original list that Dennis Leahy and Paul worked out, so I went with that list. Many, many people surely do belong on that list, including that teeny-bopper pop icon Beiber, lol.


3) The date -- Sept 30th -- was a date that was worked out between Dennis and Paul, so I went with that date, too. The mass arrests will happen way, way before that.


4) The hat that Bill will eat is a straw hat -- no way will I push him to destroy his favorite leather "Indy Jones" hat -- that's his precious trademark hat. He was wearing that hat when I met him and took him out to dinner. That hat ought to be in the Smithsonian Museum.


Thousands of people will be arrested -- most of them in the US.


The dark bastards have had their critical DUMB hidey-holes destroyed, so hiding underground is not an option. Their off-planet space craft have been quarantined, so they cannot escape from the planet. They cannot hide anywhere on Earth because of the advanced systems of detection that THEY developed to track people, because of the alert citizens around the world who would give tips as to where they are and because of ETs who will assist us by telling us where they are.


Very very few, if any, of the dark bastard elites will get away with it here in the physical ... and none certainly won't get away with it in terms of karma.


~Mozart

[gripreaper]

I`m siding with Hat, wtf did Hat do deserve this?? Hat had no say whatsoever in this bet!!

Getting eaten alive on Youtube? You people have no compassion or moral compass?

Well, if the hat feels it has been ripped off, all it has to do is send a Notice and Declaration, complete with an Affidavit and a request for Admission's to the "color of law" elite bastards at the Hague and tell them that you don't want to play anymore... and they will surely back off and run scared with their tail between their legs, even though they own everybody and everything, right?

And when you go to arrest them, I'm pretty sure they'll just raise their hands in the air and surrender, even though they have the technology to know what you are thinking way before you act. Anyways, since there has been such a huge awakening of the humans on planet earth, they wont be able to find any greedy heartless mercenaries who will protect them :rolleyes:

[mountain_jim]

It's bound to taste better and go down easier than a boiled shoe. :)

(but this shows the value of filming the event for posterity)





The title says it all. German film director Werner Herzog had made a bet with fledgling director Errol Morris that, if Morris made a film, Herzog would eat his shoe. Morris went on to film 'Gates of Heaven', so Herzog kept his promise. While eating the boiled shoe, Herzog carries on a dialogue with the film premier audience on film, art, and life. (I don't own anything. The video is here for educational and cultural purposes.)



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[conk]

Eating hats? Shouldn't this thread be in the Alternative Health section?

Doctor: Here son, eat two top hats and a beret and call me in the morning.

My bet is with Bill. No straw will sulley his clean, raw milk.

[GK76]

Due to the age of at least 5 of the listed it's more than likely that the quota won't be met. This and the fact that those listed are high profile and most likely will be forced to change sides or at least will be arrested last to avoid mass disturbances and hate mobs... it seems that Bill has made a very safe bet and the hat can breathe a sigh of relief. :)

[ulli]

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/hsc1651l.jpg

[Wind]

This is going to be hilarious.

I totally believe that Bill is right, but things like this just make me smile. :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Eating hats? Shouldn't this thread be in the Alternative Health section?

Doctor: Here son, eat two top hats and a beret and call me in the morning.

My bet is with Bill. No straw will sulley his clean, raw milk.

Nothing of the above mentioned will take place is my best guess too, we are taken for yet another wild ride, a soon as someone new with this kind of info/ disinfo pops up he will be shredded here, i sure would like to believe in major change and justice( whatever the hell that may mean), but realisticly i am not seeing this happen any time soon. If it does i will be brave too and eat a completely innocent chocolate easter bunny. ( who really really exists too as we all are aware off). By the way do you get a confirmation receipt when you sent something to a court with the autograph of some unsuspecting of contents employee on it?

[Shamz]

For me the real Question is -- Who will arrest them ?? Police ?? Military ??
which is already in their hands ???

Tom - Dick and Harry don't stand a chance against them -- We all know whats happening in Syria.

Anyways - even if all these arrests have been made... people will not change for good automatically... people will have to do some work to raise their vibrations...

For all we know -- these people will be replaced by new ones... and general population might not see anything different. We have to awaken ourselves -- and not expect others to do it for us.

Love and Peace always

[peace]

Hi Mozart,

Reminds me of the talk we were having on the the thread "A prediction about Wilcock," looks like we have some dates now (as the OP notes there). Not trying to divert, I'm fascinated at this point with the material.

I respectfully disagree (but I think you knew that) that Bill will eat his hat. Though I think it's time for maybe a new one, his hat will stay firmly on his head.

[qbeac]

Hi, I am not sure what is going to happen, but if I had to bet, I would bet that:


Bill Ryan will not win the bet.

My opinion so far is that Drake & Co. are for real, that they are serious and telling the truth, and that they are going to be able to arrest the corrupt elite. I also think Bob Dean is correct in what he told Kerry Cassidy in his last interview with her: that the future of humanity is glorious.

But we’ll believe it when we see it. In other words: Drake & Co., please, give us proof that what you say is true. Thanks!

In the meantime, the little people like us, let’s do all we can to support Drake & Co., and let’s hope they can do what they say they want to do.

P.S. Mozart, ¿could you open a Poll in this thread (or in another one) to see what the rest of the people think about this subject? For instance: 1) Mass arrests of the elite will take place. 2) The opposite… etc.

[EnergyGardener]

Nice job Mozart.

It's happening. So have him create a hat made out of corn tortilla, similar but larger than those made for salads. Bill can wear it in the morning, then eat it over lunch.

We wouldn't want Bill to get heartburn or worse.:no:

Do we have compassion or what?:cool:

EnergyGardener

[Kimberley]

Thank you Mozart! I am holding the vision of Bill eating his hat and looking forward to it!

YvonneG asked me to post this and I think this is a great place to post it first....

Some of us are acting "as if" and creating our beautiful new world today.... Be the change you hope to see.

PLEASE HELP MAKE THIS VIRAL!

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

5-5/6-2012


kOc-7KK2v2k

S1Thms2mXEY

http://www.sophialove.org/be-the-change.html

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

Posted by Cobra at: http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/

MAKE THIS VIRAL!

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

5-5/6-2012

It is time to take action! It is time to take the destiny of our world in our own hands! Therefore we will meet in groups large and small, as individuals and couples, at the exact time of full moon this May. Millions of us will gather and visualize the liberation of our planet from the tyranny of the central bankers so that for the first time in our history we will have the chance to create our own destiny as free citizens of the Earth.

There is a plan, conceived by positive people in the military, supported by civil authority, to arrest the members of the banking Cabal for their crimes against humanity. Our visualization will support this plan, so that it manifests as soon as possible, as non-violently and smoothly as possible. We will support brave heroes that will carry out this plan. Something like this has never happened on this planet before. This is our chance to be a part of it!

Our mass effort on this day will be the trigger that will activate the plan so that it may come to its fruition. Our visualization on that day is our declaration of freedom and independence. Make this viral! Share it worldwide!



We will all be doing this visualization at the same time, the moment of full moon, which comes this May 5th/6th. Exact times for different time zones are:

8:30 pm PDT May 5th (Los Angeles)
9:30 pm MDT May 5th (Denver)
10:30 pm CDT May 5th (Houston)
11.30 pm EDT May 5th (New York)
4:30 am BST May 6th (London)
5:30 am CEST May 6th (Paris)
11:30 am CST May 6th (Beijing)
12:30 pm JST May 6th (Tokyo)
1:30 pm AEST May 6th (Sydney)

Instructions:

1. Relax your mind and body by watching your breath for a few minutes.

2. Visualize civil authority arresting central banking criminals such as Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and other members of this Cabal such as Henry Kissinger, etc. Visualize this process taking place worldwide peacefully and smoothly .Visualize the world finally being free from financial slavery, free from all evil dictators and corrupt politicians.

3. Visualize bright new future for humanity, with new and fair financial system put into place, with all debts canceled, prosperity funds for humanitarian projects released, advanced technologies introduced, ecosystem healed and human beings finally being free from all oppression.


Disclaimer: the date of this meditation (May 5th & 6th) is most likely NOT the date when these mass arrests will be taking place.

More information about the mass arrests:
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/freedom-reigns-mass-arrests-for-cabal_9155.html

Updates about the World Liberation Day:
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/
Posted by AMERICAN KABUKI at 11:10 PM0 comments Labels: Banker Arrests, Cabal Arrests, Mass Arrests, World Liberation Day

[Menkaure]

Nothing will happen! I've said it before, people make all kinds of claims. "This is gonna happen on the 5th".... Nothing. "The ships will land friday"... Nothing. ETC... ad nauseoum.... Talk about the boy who cried Wolf. I want something big to happen, I really do but nothing ever develops and the same people backpedal and pick a new date. I'm beginning to think that 2012 theories are also a bunch of Mule Muffins. Show me SOMETHING!

[Carmody]

Although I'd like to see Bill eat his hat and I'd like to believe that Bill would also like to eat it..... I have yet to see a single credible arrest or a single credible body count of any kind, regarding this matter..

This, after many years of predictions and stories. Years, regarding this one angle or direction. Never mind the many years of prior stories and predictions.

I continue working on my own efforts and directions. As everyone else should (their own efforts), regardless of what they hear.

[percival tyro]

Who will authorise the arrests and which body will be authorised to make the arrests?.

[norman]

Considering how long he's been wearing that hat, it's got to taste really nasty.
Man oh man... Does he get some salsa or dip with that. Can he cook it into tortillas?
Imagine the ingestion, heartburn, diarrhea... the toxins alone might kill him.

http://projectcamelot.org/bill_anglo_saxon_million_screenshot.jpg

HahA, Bill didn't say he wouldn't wash it first !

I tend to think his hat covered head is pretty safe, but if he loses this bet I'll be there cheering with the rest of you.

[Alan]

Mozart, it would only seem fair for you to offer to do something in the event that you lose.

What do you say?

[Kimberley]

Nothing will happen! I've said it before, people make all kinds of claims. "This is gonna happen on the 5th".... Nothing. "The ships will land friday"... Nothing. ETC... ad nauseoum.... Talk about the boy who cried Wolf. I want something big to happen, I really do but nothing ever develops and the same people backpedal and pick a new date. I'm beginning to think that 2012 theories are also a bunch of Mule Muffins. Show me SOMETHING!

Disclaimer: the date of this WORLD LIBERATION DAY meditation (May 5th and 6th) is most likely NOT the date when these mass arrests will be taking place.

[StarDust]

I have some savory BBQ sauce and a nice cold beer to help Bill wash it all down;)

[Bill Ryan]

I`m siding with Hat, wtf did Hat do deserve this?? Hat had no say whatsoever in this bet!!




Funny thread :)

I hope Bill reads it.

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

:)

[aranuk]

Bill if you think that there is absolutely no chance at all for The Drake Plan to work, what can be done otherwise to oust those elite bastards?

Stan

[applecrusher1992]

Thank you Mozart! I am holding the vision of Bill eating his hat and looking forward to it!

YvonneG asked me to post this and I think this is a great place to post it first....

Some of us are acting "as if" and creating our beautiful new world today.... Be the change you hope to see.

PLEASE HELP MAKE THIS VIRAL!

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

5-5/6-2012


kOc-7KK2v2k

S1Thms2mXEY

http://www.sophialove.org/be-the-change.html

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

Posted by Cobra at: http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/

MAKE THIS VIRAL!

WORLD LIBERATION DAY

5-5/6-2012

It is time to take action! It is time to take the destiny of our world in our own hands! Therefore we will meet in groups large and small, as individuals and couples, at the exact time of full moon this May. Millions of us will gather and visualize the liberation of our planet from the tyranny of the central bankers so that for the first time in our history we will have the chance to create our own destiny as free citizens of the Earth.

There is a plan, conceived by positive people in the military, supported by civil authority, to arrest the members of the banking Cabal for their crimes against humanity. Our visualization will support this plan, so that it manifests as soon as possible, as non-violently and smoothly as possible. We will support brave heroes that will carry out this plan. Something like this has never happened on this planet before. This is our chance to be a part of it!

Our mass effort on this day will be the trigger that will activate the plan so that it may come to its fruition. Our visualization on that day is our declaration of freedom and independence. Make this viral! Share it worldwide!



We will all be doing this visualization at the same time, the moment of full moon, which comes this May 5th/6th. Exact times for different time zones are:

8:30 pm PDT May 5th (Los Angeles)
9:30 pm MDT May 5th (Denver)
10:30 pm CDT May 5th (Houston)
11.30 pm EDT May 5th (New York)
4:30 am BST May 6th (London)
5:30 am CEST May 6th (Paris)
11:30 am CST May 6th (Beijing)
12:30 pm JST May 6th (Tokyo)
1:30 pm AEST May 6th (Sydney)

Instructions:

1. Relax your mind and body by watching your breath for a few minutes.

2. Visualize civil authority arresting central banking criminals such as Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and other members of this Cabal such as Henry Kissinger, etc. Visualize this process taking place worldwide peacefully and smoothly .Visualize the world finally being free from financial slavery, free from all evil dictators and corrupt politicians.

3. Visualize bright new future for humanity, with new and fair financial system put into place, with all debts canceled, prosperity funds for humanitarian projects released, advanced technologies introduced, ecosystem healed and human beings finally being free from all oppression.


Disclaimer: the date of this meditation (May 5th & 6th) is most likely NOT the date when these mass arrests will be taking place.

More information about the mass arrests:
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2012/04/freedom-reigns-mass-arrests-for-cabal_9155.html

Updates about the World Liberation Day:
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/
Posted by AMERICAN KABUKI at 11:10 PM0 comments Labels: Banker Arrests, Cabal Arrests, Mass Arrests, World Liberation Day


I wonder if there is a plan whether mass visualization is a big part of their success. If they do have a decent size group of people and they have thousands of people visualizing this future then that might help bring us into a new timeline that would have the banisters arrested. People who are less likely to believe it will not be a part of the change and those that are will realize this reality. If this is true then one Bill will be right in one timeline and wrong in the other and therefore eat his hat anyway.

[foreverfan]

Bill has read it... and has reassured his hat that it's in no danger whatsoever.

http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/ketchup-plastic-bottle-lg.jpg

[tenacity1]

As positive thought affects positive action, I am dismayed to see so many on here being cynical about Drake. Who knows what will happen? I only know that if it doesn't we are all in a very deep swamp. I choose to be hopeful even as I also discourse with a cynical side I have myself. I think the elite are counting on folks not having any hope left. They've been masters of Machiavellian manipulation for decades.. don't you think that the same guys who could murder a president would know how to sow the seeds of discontent. Black ops always infiltrates movements. Always.. Look at Charles.. he wasn't privy to Ets he was a pawn of rich heartless men who I feel sorry for. I wouldn't want to face my death with their karma on my soul. It might behoove some of you to read the files that have been released about J Edgar Hoover. To this day I am certain that the back to the landers I was part of would have made good ground towards changing things had the nation not had real manipulation of our attitudes going on and self absorbed became the watchword of the eighties. With respect because I know Sagitarians can sound harsh when we're just being blunt. Peace ya'll and btw I am not saying I don't have my decidedly cynical days..

[kreagle]

I'm betting that no one is arrested by September 30th.

Sorry, I don't buy this malarkey that Wilcock and Fulford are pushing anymore.

Want it to be true regardless. There are people who deserve to be locked up on that list.

I'll have to say that I agree with you.

[Fred Steeves]

I'm kind of curious about the timing of this "World Liberation Day". Now maybe I'm just one of those weird numbers guys, but why5/5/2012? Add the 2012 together as the third unit and you get 555. The Washington Monument is 555 feet tall. Coincidence? I think not.

Knowledge, numerology, ley lines, energy, etc., are neither light nor dark, it simply depends on the intended use of such. Fire is an excellent example. So my question is what is the underlying intent of this 555 event. People can say "well we all come with positive intent, so there you go". I say not so fast. People take holy communion with good intent also, and most of us should know what that act really represents, and where that energy really flows to.

No rotten tomatos please, just asking the question. Has anyone else considered this? It seems to nestle in nicely with the Drake rage as well.

[NancyV]

I'm kind of curious about the timing of this "World Liberation Day". Now maybe I'm just one of those weird numbers guys, but why5/5/2012? Add the 2012 together as the third unit and you get 555. The Washington Monument is 555 feet tall. Coincidence? I think not.

Knowledge, numerology, ley lines, energy, etc., are neither light nor dark, it simply depends on the intended use of such. Fire is an excellent example. So my question is what is the underlying intent of this 555 event. People can say "well we all come with positive intent, so there you go". I say not so fast. People take holy communion with good intent also, and most of us should know what that act really represents, and where that energy really flows to.

No rotten tomatos please, just asking the question. Has anyone else considered this? It seems to nestle in nicely with the Drake rage as well.
Fred, I thought they chose 5/5 for "World Liberation Day" because it's my birthday and my grandsons! I was getting sort of tired of just celebrating Cinco de Mayo (Mexican liberation day) so they created a more important liberation day my grandson and I can celebrate on our birthday. He will be 5 and I'll be 65 on 5/5.
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[Space_Ace]

I give it a 75% chance of mass arrests this year. I have no idea what will happen if we don't see mass arrests this year, but it probably will be bad. Perhaps either ascension will be canceled and nothing happens for 2012 or most of us will "die" and have to repeat this experience in our next life on another Earthlike planet for another shot at ascension. Fail the test and simply repeat in still another lifetime. Let's hope we can pass the test this time around! :)

[Sebastion]

And a rousing high five to you and yours NancyV! Much happiness to you! lol




I'm kind of curious about the timing of this "World Liberation Day". Now maybe I'm just one of those weird numbers guys, but why5/5/2012? Add the 2012 together as the third unit and you get 555. The Washington Monument is 555 feet tall. Coincidence? I think not.

Knowledge, numerology, ley lines, energy, etc., are neither light nor dark, it simply depends on the intended use of such. Fire is an excellent example. So my question is what is the underlying intent of this 555 event. People can say "well we all come with positive intent, so there you go". I say not so fast. People take holy communion with good intent also, and most of us should know what that act really represents, and where that energy really flows to.

No rotten tomatos please, just asking the question. Has anyone else considered this? It seems to nestle in nicely with the Drake rage as well.
Fred, I thought they chose 5/5 for "World Liberation Day" because it's my birthday and my grandsons! I was getting sort of tired of just celebrating Cinco de Mayo (Mexican liberation day) so they created a more important liberation day my grandson and I can celebrate on our birthday. He will be 5 and I'll be 65 on 5/5.
:dance3:

[marique3652]

Eating hats? Shouldn't this thread be in the Alternative Health section?

Doctor: Here son, eat two top hats and a beret and call me in the morning.

My bet is with Bill. No straw will sulley his clean, raw milk.

Nothing of the above mentioned will take place is my best guess too, we are taken for yet another wild ride, a soon as someone new with this kind of info/ disinfo pops up he will be shredded here, i sure would like to believe in major change and justice( whatever the hell that may mean), but realisticly i am not seeing this happen any time soon. If it does i will be brave too and eat a completely innocent chocolate easter bunny. ( who really really exists too as we all are aware off). By the way do you get a confirmation receipt when you sent something to a court with the autograph of some unsuspecting of contents employee on it?

I agree with you on this Plumber ot Beast. I also feel like we are invited to be taken for another ride, but I refuse to get on that bus. I guess I don't believe things too easily, and need a lot of tangible first hand proof of stuff, or maybe my imagination is just not that convincing to me, lol. I don't believe 8/10ths of what I read on new age sites and channelings from alleged benevolent aliens or assended masters and other figures that are revered that may and or may not exist, and have very little esteem for broadcast news either for that matter due to not knowing what spin they have put on an event, etc. lol. I also love chocolate and would eat chocolate but not a hat.. I just don't see the predicted people being arrested. Guess I am a doubting Thomas. Glad to know there are other doubters here.

[Bill Ryan]

I give it a 75% chance of mass arrests this year. I have no idea what will happen if we don't see mass arrests this year, but it probably will be bad. Perhaps either ascension will be canceled and nothing happens for 2012 or most of us will "die" and have to repeat this experience in our next life on another Earthlike planet for another shot at ascension. Fail the test and simply repeat in still another lifetime. Let's hope we can pass the test this time around! :)

Ascension is not being organized by some cosmic committee who might cancel it due to some unforeseen circumstance! The very idea is ludicrous. I am still laughing.

I have two hats. I got a new one last September:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_two_hats_sm.jpg

If any kind of Ascension occurs -- ever -- (other than per Inelia’s definition of it as “expansion of awareness”), I will eat the other one.

I’m aware that some members will now look forward to my eating them both at once, but this will never happen. Both hats are quite safe.

Please, guys, be more intelligent. No disrespect intended, genuinely. Ascension (either as in rapture or some kind of interdimensional transmogrification) will not happen, and neither will any mass arrests. Reality is both tougher and more complex than that. Many people here are deluding themselves with wishful thinking. Although understandable, there are no easy ways out.

A huge amount of hard work remains to do, and this will take a number of generations before this planet becomes more like the one it should always have been. There are no simple fixes.

If you believe that there are, the simple truth is that you are buying into a seductive delusion. There — I said it.

:)

[RMorgan]

Thank you 1.000.000 times Bill!

I just hope people here don´t start calling you a reptilian, secret agent, a payed shill or anything else like this, only because you´re listening to the voice of reason!

That´s one of the reasons your active participation on this forum is so necessary these days!

Cheers,

Raf.

[sdv]

And what I have come to understand for myself is that ascension is not about expanding consciousness, moving into another dimension, and so on. It is about awareness.

It's kind of like living in this huge mansion with a huge garden, surrounded by (get what I mean) and only occupying a small part of it. I can wait for someone to come along and take my hand and lead me out of the basement (or whichever part I am occupying), or give me permission to leave the basement, or even tell me that the basement is not all that there is, or stay in the basement while I believe that above and beyond there is more ...

Or ...

I can be an explorer and an adventurer and go and find out about and enjoy all of it.

It sounds vaugely theoretical, but it is actually quite practical (and if I want to be a wimp and stay in the comfortable sitting room in front of the fire when it is raining that is ok too, but I do need to be honest that it is my choice!)

[gripreaper]

Bill's hat can get remedy, can it not? If his hat is aggrieved because it has had it's assets absconded with and misappropriated causing the hat to feel enslaved, then the hat can just send a Notice to the corrupt elite bankster's global tribunal (The Hague) and tell the tribunal that there will be an inquisition if they don't knock it off and play nice like they said they would way back when the hat agreed to be a fixture on top of Bill's head.

Of course, the tribunal has been in place for thousands of years, and has murdered and performed mass genocide on anyone who went against it's mandates, although the hat is really a "good guy" and has great integrity, it is a fiction and is therefore the only one who can operate in commerce, even if it has benevolent ET/ED'd backing it up, as well as all the rest of the good guys in the military and local law enforcement, although it's not organized into any kind of group or anything.

So, the hat feels like it is doing the right thing and is on the right course for mankind and his liberation from slavery, even though the hat has acquiesced to being on Bill's head for all these years, as can be plainly seen by looking at the photo document submitted in this thread. This is the adhesion which presumes to make Bill and his hat one in the same, when in commerce they are not. This photo document is believed to be authentic, although there is no certified, notarized and witnessed declaration from Bill as to it's authenticity, there is enough circumstantial evidence to support and corroborate a high probability as to it's authenticity, and therefore the adhesion between the fiction and the real man should be assumed to be real?

Nevertheless, arresting those in the lower to mid tiers of the power pyramid would certainly get Bill and his hat excited, yet it would also excite the elite power brokers who are at the very apex of the capstone of the power pyramid, who no one has ever seen or met, who own and control everything and have an agenda of complete control, who have full control of the occult sciences, all of the stellar space technology, all of the corporations and means of production, as well as all of the prime real estate and natural resources of the planet, as well as all of the governments and military's, everything that the hat's owner needs to survive.

So, in the ensuing chaos, as the hat's owner is trying to survive with all of it's sustenance cut off, as the hat is being offered up as a sacrificial lamb, as the hat is recognized as a symbol for the transformation into a changed system, we get to witness the shuffling and restructuring of the power pyramid into a global system, while the very apex of the capstone remains intact.

I think this is an unfair and inappropriate fate for the hat, since the hat has come to symbolize all that is true and honest and correct about the empathic nature of mankind, and it's "archetypal" symbolism should not be sacrificed to bring forth the agenda of the elite, under the guise of freedom and liberty, no matter how benevolent the arrests appear and or how glorious the new system being offered to us appears!

The hat may get eaten because it is the only available source of protein, due to the control mechanism in place, and the attempt by the power brokers to stop any rebellion against the status quo. I think the hat is being used as a subversive tool to fulfill an agenda which has been in place for thousands of years, and I just don't think it's fair to make the hat the catalyst for such a nexus of change, an energetic condition which we have not seen in 26,000 years. How could the hat have possibly known all of the implications of such a gargantuan transformation? Where's the full disclosure?

I think maybe the hat should get ahold of Winston Shrout and find out what paperwork it needs to file to protect itself and to secure it's proper place on top of Bill's head, and that any attempt to force the hat against it's will should be "stayed" via a "cease and desist" declaration sent to those who are on the opposite end of the arrest bet, asking them to provide a proper affidavit of the complete truth, answering to all of the requests for admissions submitted to them, and to respond within 21 days, or they are acquiescing to that which is presumed to be true by the hat.

Unless those who are attempting to abscond with the hat are able to show with cause, that the original conditions of the original contract have been breached, supported by evidence which can be submitted as exhibits into a judicial procedure of proper jurisdiction, agreed upon by both parties, and their claim can be substantiated and adjudicated by a grand jury of the hat's peers, they should be restrained from proceeding and all of their unsubstantiated claims should be denied.

[Bill Ryan]

Thank you 1.000.000 times Bill!

I just hope people here don´t start calling you a reptilian, secret agent, a payed shill or anything else like this, only because you´re listening to the voice of reason! That´s one of the reasons your active participation on this forum is so necessary these days!

No, but Space_Ace did call me, and others, either a disinfo agent or a brainwashed fool. :)


Excellent post, Dennis Leahy! Those "debunking" Drake are either disinfo agents or brainwashed fools who don't realize that if mass arrests don't happen, we obviously can't win our freedom. It's far worse to not even try than try and fail. If we don't try, we automatically fail anyway!

I might have to come out of semi-retirement (a partial joke -- I've not interacted much publicly for the last year or so, but I have not been idle) -- to add some much-needed checks and balances against the proliferation of delusion, wishful thinking and near-hysteria that's been endemic since this time last year.

[Alan]

I might have to come out of semi-retirement (a partial joke -- I've not interacted much publicly for the last year or so, but I have not been idle) -- to add some much-needed checks and balances against the proliferation of delusion, wishful thinking and near-hysteria that's been endemic since this time last year.

Yes, PLEASE do! This ship needs it's captain, and it is foundering without one!

[CeltMan]

Well, all this makes me realise that I really Should start my latest business venture.

Namely, manufacturing 'pasta hats'

This appeals to the humanitarian in me, who would not wish to see so many folk perish by choking on a hat made of: leather, cloth, straw etc

From conversations I have had, there seems to be a big market in these 'pasta hats' of mine?.....;)

P.S. Launch date, -pasta hats will be available for purchase on 1st January 2013 (thus giving ample time for 'things to be proven//manifested')

[Lefty Dave]

Thanks, Bill, for your valued posts...and I for one will help you eat those hats...if that glorious day ever comes !!!!!!!!!

[transiten]

OMG!

I'm calling the police because i saw a stray dog, i looked the telephonenumber up and there was this test: "How smart are you? How many triangles do you see? And then i see your triangle avatar CeltMan and after 7 months i just had a clear diagnosis of Lymedisease 2 hours ago.

I just now lost my temper and cursed and hung up on the last policeman i talked to since he acted extremely strange and cold while the first one took all the details about the dog, the time and place and then connected me to this strange person?

I'm very interested in the questions discussed in this thread but don't have the energy to debate, i just have to take care of my health...."healthy body mind spirit"

And so i called the police again to report about what just happened and there was this extremely kind and understanding woman and i said i don't like myself when reacting with "Go to hell" and she said she perfectly understood, she took the info again about the dog and said she would try to pass the information to the right place. Before hanging up she said "Take care" and i said thanks a lot, it would have been horrible to end with the last call.

And of course FEAR the word i find at the bottom of your post has been my main feeling for several months now because of my strange healthproblems, and please don't tell me now i shouldn't feel fear because "then i'm just feeding the negs." It's perfectly all right to be fearful. Without fear no courage. Total fearlessness doesn't exist on planet earth and should not be a healthy state of mind.

Courage is when you do what you feel is right and coming from the heart, even if you are afraid.

How on earth/in heaven is this connected with this thread? Am i on the right or wrong place or both?

[conk]

How can we ascend when we are already there? There is no place or dimension to ascend to if we are it. As Bill said, expansion of awareness and remembering who we are.

[Alan]

How on earth/in heaven is this connected with this thread? Am i on the right or wrong place or both?

wrong place

[transiten]

How on earth/in heaven is this connected with this thread? Am i on the right or wrong place or both?

wrong place

No alamojo, if you read my post through you will realize your puppy dog tells me it is the RIGHT place...............Thanks Universe for this synchronicity...............

[transiten]

Well, all this makes me realise that I really Should start my latest business venture.

Namely, manufacturing 'pasta hats'

This appeals to the humanitarian in me, who would not wish to see so many folk perish by choking on a hat made of: leather, cloth, straw etc

From conversations I have had, there seems to be a big market in these 'pasta hats' of mine?.....;)

Hello again, my above dog and police post should have been connected with this one of course, forgot to click "Reply with quote". never mind i'm talking to myself anyway, hopefully my Higher Self................

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I might have to come out of semi-retirement (a partial joke -- I've not interacted much publicly for the last year or so, but I have not been idle) -- to add some much-needed checks and balances against the proliferation of delusion, wishful thinking and near-hysteria that's been endemic since this time last year.

Bill, Thank you very much. I know your time is precious, but Avalon does need your hand at the wheel.

Everyone, if you enjoy this place please donate a few bucks to make it easier for Bill to spend time here. Even just a few dollars from each person would make a big difference.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Please, guys, be more intelligent. No disrespect intended, genuinely. Ascension (either as in rapture or some kind of interdimensional transmogrification) will not happen, and neither will any mass arrests. Reality is both tougher and more complex than that. Many people here are deluding themselves with wishful thinking. Although understandable, there are no easy ways out.

A huge amount of hard work remains to do, and this will take a number of generations before this planet becomes more like the one it should always have been. There are no simple fixes.

If you believe that there are, the simple truth is that you are buying into a seductive delusion. There — I said it.

:)

Don't be too hard on em, Bill. Our friend David Wilcock has made a case for a miraculous ascension just around the corner and he is a convincing speaker.

I think the important thing here has always been to keep working. Keep working on yourself and your world. The danger of the ascension message is that everyone will just relax because the cavalry is already on the way. As I think it was you yourself who said, "We ARE the cavalry."

No one can attain liberation and enlightenment for us. We still have to make the journey no matter what happens to our world; be it apocalypse or ascension.


edit: My pledge is that if there is a zombie apocalypse, I will eat Bill and both his hats.

[lunaflare]

enough of the hat remarks....these are becoming like bad, bad tv re-runs
have we not learned from setting our hopes on dates/predictions?
this paradigm shift (expanded awareness from our human perception) is about unlearning ALL these programmes.
we are returning to states of inner self reliance.
agreed: no mass arrests, no sudden ascension to "save the day". no tv set to explain the situation, nor to guide nor to inform
we are the system. thus we change the system/the world/the reality by what we choose to create and let go (of)

the name drake is a tribute to draconian or dragon race, yes? not necessarily nefarious, i may add
what is the significance of this code name?

[CeltMan]

Hello Transiten,

Not sure what you are trying to say here, is it that my avatar has given you inspiration? In that case I am pleased for you.

I do not wish to take this thread off topic, although I think I see your connection.

'If we all strive to achieve an ideal balance of a 'healthy body mind & spirit', then we will be ok as a species.'

Speaking personnaly, I am very much a work in progress, but this thread + another has inspired me to post a relative thread ('You Can Make a difference')

Sorry to read of your diagnosed illness, hope you can soon get effective treatment.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Eating hats? Shouldn't this thread be in the Alternative Health section?

Doctor: Here son, eat two top hats and a beret and call me in the morning.

My bet is with Bill. No straw will sulley his clean, raw milk.

Nothing of the above mentioned will take place is my best guess too, we are taken for yet another wild ride, a soon as someone new with this kind of info/ disinfo pops up he will be shredded here, i sure would like to believe in major change and justice( whatever the hell that may mean), but realisticly i am not seeing this happen any time soon. If it does i will be brave too and eat a completely innocent chocolate easter bunny. ( who really really exists too as we all are aware off). By the way do you get a confirmation receipt when you sent something to a court with the autograph of some unsuspecting of contents employee on it?

I agree with you on this Plumber ot Beast. I also feel like we are invited to be taken for another ride, but I refuse to get on that bus. I guess I don't believe things too easily, and need a lot of tangible first hand proof of stuff, or maybe my imagination is just not that convincing to me, lol. I don't believe 8/10ths of what I read on new age sites and channelings from alleged benevolent aliens or assended masters and other figures that are revered that may and or may not exist, and have very little esteem for broadcast news either for that matter due to not knowing what spin they have put on an event, etc. lol. I also love chocolate and would eat chocolate but not a hat.. I just don't see the predicted people being arrested. Guess I am a doubting Thomas. Glad to know there are other doubters here.

So, you are also still waiting for the stretch limo`s to take some chosen ones up to their space ship for a luxury work/recreation trip?

You know, its not i dont want to believe in change for the better, because i really do and i would like to see this happen rather sooner then later.

I too want to see the people responsible for this global control system rounded up and be done with them so we can make a nice fresh clean start and build ourselves a healthy and just society where everybody of any race creed and color gets an equal chance to make something out of all this.

I absolutely have a dislike for people who just keep going on and on how evolved they are themselves and icecold declare that everything is a spirituel lesson( which i think is true) but its very very hard to explain to people who are actually fighting a real fight for survival ( the two or less dollar a day people of this world) and proclaiming our cosmic family will drop out the the sky and everything will be just f@cking peachy i a month or so.

I have NO problem with the concept of an extended cosmic family( seems pretty clear to me) in the vastness of the many many universes that exist next to or simultaneous with ours, and we are most defenitely not on top of the food/mind/ spiritual chain in any universe when i see we cant even keep this tiny spaceball in order.

Something is very wrong on this planet, Thats what i do know, i cant even start explaining why i just laugh at all of this which is actually no laughing matter at all, but staying sane requires this( in my case) because holy f@cking sh!tballs, this PA arena may have the highest number of smart people on the internets but nevertheless we are preyed upon by people with less then good intentions and have a serious stake in slowing down progress for the human and all others for that matter. If those people are influenced by outside forces( whathave you, i am sure you can think of a few sorts who`s names get flung around here like gummibears) Archons, Lizzys, greys, and just plain old annoying cranky bitter powerhungry mofo`s with a psychological make up resembling borderline psychpaths, it does not matter, it is nice to identify your enemies so you can keep them close to you or at arms lenght. Knowing who they are and what they put us through is not enough, they have to split and get the hell outta here, unfortunately they have the guns and the numbers we have might just not be enough ( when the fast majority of these numbers are snoring away with asses grown to their couches and balancing two of more cans of beer of sugar dense **** on their respective bellybuttons.

O yeah and then theres this, FUKUSHIMA, this is going wrong and EVERYTHING is done to distract us from this fact, i hope i get to speak to real actual upright walking people instead of odd gurgling foureyed puddles of formerly known as sapiens, eyes on the ball please and the ball is a molten reactor. Hiding for cover in the streetcurbs or onder your schooldesks will not do the trick this time.

Cheers.

[kcbc2010]

lol - what a funny thread. The thing that strikes me is how a lot of this sounds like how a lot of Christians are just waiting for the rapture. It's going to happen. Any day. Soon. You need to be prepared. Have you shared the "truth" with your friends/family? (Notice how the language sounds so similar).

Anyway, I don't think anything is guaranteed. I'm glad Bill is practical about all of this because I know I get sucked up into the emotionalism of hope. Hoping for a better future is a good thing to do, but we can't be just focused on the goal of "getting out of here". I find myself wanting what David/Ben say to be the truth and that - soon - all these bad people will be put away and -soon- we'll be free and -soon - we'll live in peace. However, we can't stop living because - soon - hasn't happened yet.

I don't think they are trying to mislead anyone, but I also know that chessboard is so much bigger than what I can see and that there are a lot of pieces that need to come together for something that big/elaborate to happen. I'm hoping that I'm just a bit paranoid about Chicago/London/the US election, but there are seeds that have been planted which have nothing to do with "peace on Earth and goodwill towards men". (for lack of a better way to say it at the moment).

[Carmody]

I might have to come out of semi-retirement (a partial joke -- I've not interacted much publicly for the last year or so, but I have not been idle) -- to add some much-needed checks and balances against the proliferation of delusion, wishful thinking and near-hysteria that's been endemic since this time last year.

Yes, PLEASE do! This ship needs it's captain, and it is foundering without one!

I'm not trying to be contrary, but the essence of the problem is that there is a disconnect between people's given personal danger, in the realized and real sense, vs their actions.

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship.

The rest want to read about all those 'jolly good' actions in far away wars, by the given sea captains and boats that are in those far away wars in strange countries. They want to sip their tea and read, then go about their curd chewing.

Essentially, a large potion of the human mechanism's design, is about continuance, or living, as it where. And that specifically involves repetition, without interference, in a comfortable environment that has soft corners and no sharp changes.

On the basic human body as a carrier and avatar level, that is the interface point of existence in a body, the continuation mechanism aspect is like a slow continual bit of masturbation that the system's inbuilt drives utilize as a deep desire-reward system, so the body can stay alive and continue to carry a spirit within.

A good portion of the unrealized autonomous drive systems, it be.

Not realizing this single point is a good part of what is killing us, on all fronts.

Returning to the original point, is that no further sleeping can be allowed, no self masturbation of the deep drives on the unrealized autonomous levels can be tolerated.

One must be the fully aware captain of their own ship.

All while living in the understanding that one's own existence is tied so deeply to these internal systems that all thought and contemplation, all data of any kind, is processed through the various channels that also control this desire-reward-fear-love-pleasure system, and thus 'all', within the given being, is manipulated/colored/shifted via the internal autonomous drive systems.

Realizing this is key to fixing it.

Living it every day, in every moment, never slipping into any aspect of sleeping, of being unaware. Never allow autonomous integration with the body -to be back in charge.

Never sleep. Ever.

So, in essence, no captains, captains.... are for people who sleep, people who do not understand what they are.

[donk]

Coming out of court today, "winning" as it were--in a charge against my special lady friend's ex, where he took a plea forcing him in to the counseling/anger mangement/probation I wanted him to get...coming out of the building I was sorely dissappointed that it did not come to trial.

Not because the "truth" was irrefutable, regardless of any lawyer tricks and lies told in his defense, not because I surely could have punished--and worse for this control-freak obbsessed over image: embarrass him--more harshly, or proven to be "right"...aspects that dissappointed my girl. What I was dissappointed about was missing the opportunity to show everyone in the room, my girl most importantly, followed by the ex, then the lawyers and judges and everyone else...to show to the world--right & wrong, our (the American public) idea of "justice", the system of reward/punishment--doesn't matter to me, and once I could let go of that, it set me free. And I want to figure out how to get others at least see that they have the choice to find this liberation from the slave/control mentality.

I had already won, just by the fact that the dude had to show up. The fact he blew a wad on his lawyer, and he had to feel some of the sh!tty feelings he constantly put on his wife for over a decade--was icing on the cake on the ego justice level. But that is not satisfactory to me. The ultimate victory for me would have been for him (and my girl) to see that there are consequences to your actions, and the more you resist taking responsibility--and worse, try to force it on someone else, lie or loophole or negotiate your way out of it--the more it is all going to come back on you.

I had been on the path of killing this dude with kindness, going out of my way, not just for his kids, not just to make my life and relationship easier, and not just for hopes he'd return the favor...for the first time in my life I found someone who made themselves an "enemy", and I was in state of mind to live the truth--that you should love them. I found I am able to love anyone & everyone, or at the least--not hate.

And as time went on, and his self-absorbed @ss watched me and his ex get happier and happier, as his abusive, control freak, borderline-personality disorder became unbearable, I found the correct point in his escalation on his war of hate on his baby's mama where I needed to step in and protect my family...there was no reasoning, no way to get him to see hurting me and his ex was hurting his kids and himself.

So all I had to do was get him to redirect his rage and victim mentality on to me, who faced it without fear--I encouraged him to act on his terrible emotions, and just as I expected, it came out in an assault that I could use to get the only protection from him that he understood and respected: the authority/control structure...aka the police and justice system.

So back to the point: to him, and most (myself included, a couple years ago), court is about winning and losing. Arguing two sides, enemies seeking justice, judgment given. That's what I really felt reading through this thread. Yes, I would get a certain satisification with those Schmucks being frogmarched outa their mansions and estates and put on trial and thrown in a cage. It needs, to happen, for the good of humanity, for all life on earth, for that matter. But if it is done in the same old way, where very few people see beyond the emotional attachment to whatever beliefs they have about right and wrong (not to mention, those particular people), they are jsut going to be replaced as some have mentioned, and nothing will change except for the faces.

At least not unless some sort of "truth & reconcilation" comes about--and not in some stuffy friggin BAU courtroom or assmebly or whatever way...it has to be done in a way that resonates with the masses, maybe even with some of the perps themselves (dare to dream) see the true implications of what of they have done. And see where the real power/evil/whatever we are seeking justice for comes from: These are individual beings, making at least more-informed-than-most conscious decisions...the more important thing than punishing them is to see WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID, HOW, AND WHY.

Make sure that reality is exposed, openly revealed...cuz I really don't think the ends justify the means. What happens once they're locked up? We get vindicated, our egos stroked, justice served, our comeuppance...all to me jsut a bunch of B.S. What in reality do we gain? These creatures are no longer able to harm others...or the world. That is real, that is what is important. And that, is what I fear will get lost on those not as informed and enlightened. I feel that mass arrests is just strengthening the root of everything that is wrong with those arrested (and their actions/choices), unless there is a mass reckoning. If this stuff does come to pass, how can we possibly hope to get the 99% of the population that wouldn't give stuff like Avalon a second look to see it as anything other than "duh...WINNING?"

Cuz if people like us (and not even all of us, apparently) are the only ones that get that point--what really changes?

Sorry for the lengthy stream-of-consciousness venting, I am just spewing thoughts on the page in between trying to get the min done here at the cracker factory, but I have an idea I hope someone here can rescure from my ineloquent nonsense...I didn't want to "win" today, I don't want to "win" this battle. I needed to be protected from a selfish hurtful being trying to impose their will on me, who only responds to the control structure. I had to use the authority and structure I despise to force him to take the consequences of his actions--but how the eff do you get him take RESPONSIBILITY?? Isn't that what is important?

Tom Robbins wrote somethign to the effect of: "I believe in everything---nothing is sacred....I believe in nothing---everything is scared" I believe that 19 out of 19 will be arrested, and that 0 out of 19 will be arrested, depending on the intention behind the last I hear. I do believe our intentions, our consciousness, can manifest anything, that we may be that powerful--so if so, are we focusing it in the wrong direction? Aren't we feeding the slave mentality that we so desperately want to be free of by fantasizing the eye-for-an-eye "justice" the creators of the system put in place.

Again I apologize for being so all over the place--but I believe "it is all a big blanket", all interconnected, needed to work out my thoughts on the personal level and apply to the big picture (as above, so below)...I appreciate the patience of anyone that bothered to make this far, and would appreciate it more if anyone who hears me could help me communicate the thought i am trying to share.

[transiten]

:grouphug:
Hello Transiten,

Not sure what you are trying to say here, is it that my avatar has given you inspiration? In that case I am pleased for you.

I do not wish to take this thread off topic, although I think I see your connection.

'If we all strive to achieve an ideal balance of a 'healthy body mind & spirit', then we will be ok as a species.'

Speaking personnaly, I am very much a work in progress, but this thread + another has inspired me to post a relative thread ('You Can Make a difference')

Sorry to read of your diagnosed illness, hope you can soon get effective treatment.

Thankyou CeltMan,

Well your avatar" healthy body mind & spirit" either is something awaiting me and All Of Us or (hopefully not) a bad joke, but all the same a strong synchronicity esp together with the "TRIANGLE" sync.

Now i don't know whether you guys in this thread pay attention to synchronicities or not. Anyway David Wilcock does which doesn't mean that all synchronicities are a sign you are on "The right path". It can actually be quite the opposite as i have experienced the hard way in my own life. It shows you are in contact with the "collective unconscious" "the source field" and that might be a tricky thing also.

You've got to decide for yourself whether this is something positive or negative. And sometimes one has to "go through" something negative to come to something positive. and we just don't know until after the events have played out/manifested and then you hopefully learned something and expanded your consciousness.

So for me in that sense i have taken a step back from this topic and the forums since i realize i don't have enough information to make up my mind and my weakened mental/emotional state has coincided with all this so i try to do my best in this situation and focus on my immediate surroundings: My family, my friends, my allotment and my health.

Only time will tell whether Bill will have to eat his hat or not, and i thank you all for your research and engagment which allows me to pop in now and then to keep me updated

[araucaria]

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship.
[...]
So, in essence, no captains, captains.... are for people who sleep, people who do not understand what they are.

Yes, and a while back it was teachers with Lord Sid and his followers...

Carmody, you wrote on another thread that David Wilcock's high profile exposed him to disinformation. This of course also applies to our good friend Bill Ryan, whose recent low profile is therefore a good thing :)

I read somewhere else on this forum that Cliff High dismissed DW's work because he accepted Dan Burisch's testimony. This of course also applies to our good friend Bill.

So when Bill dismisses DW, we have two captains on the same ship issuing contradictory instructions. This is only disturbing to those who need a captain figure.

Captains are a thing of the past. On a lighter note, when I was a ten-year-old schoolboy, we read the following poem about a captain called... Drake (Sir Francis Drake, who defeated the Spanish Armada) and who promised to come back from the grave:




Henry Newbolt, Drake's Drum

DRAKE he's in his hammock an' a thousand mile away,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?)
Slung atween the round shot in Nombre Dios Bay,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe.
Yarnder lumes the island, yarnder lie the ships, 5
Wi' sailor lads a-dancin' heel-an'-toe,
An' the shore-lights flashin', an' the night-tide dashin'
He sees et arl so plainly as he saw et long ago.

Drake he was a Devon man, an' ruled the Devon seas,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?), 10
Rovin' tho' his death fell, he went wi' heart at ease,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe,
"Take my drum to England, hang et by the shore,
Strike et when your powder's runnin' low;
If the Dons sight Devon, I'll quit the port o' Heaven, 15
An' drum them up the Channel as we drummed them long ago."

Drake he's in his hammock till the great Armadas come,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?),
Slung atween the round shot, listenin' for the drum,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe. 20
Call him on the deep sea, call him up the Sound,
Call him when ye sail to meet the foe;
Where the old trade's plyin' an' the old flag flyin',
They shall find him, ware an' wakin', as they found him long ago

[Mozart]

I want to say something to those who think that David Wilcock and Drake are full of **** with regards to the pending mass arrests.


They have made it very clear a number of times that they have a TON of information that would fully prove to the public that The Plan that was planned by certain people in the military really does exist and that the people involved really are planning to move forward to arrest the perpetrators of the evil Cabal.


But if either Wilcock or Drake released any of that information, they could totally jeopardize the plans for the mass arrests to happen. The military has made it clear that they won't move until the "T"s and the "I"s are crossed with the new financial system full functional and ready to step into the giant shoes of world-wide financial management that will have been forcefully vacated by the Federal Reserve.


David has personally assured me in emails that they have not released a TON of information that would prove, beyond doubt, that these mass arrests are not only being planned, but that they are doing a ton of tactical positioning to get ready to do this very complicated project.


There are so many signs from all over that the mass arrests will happen. Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


CEOs have been jumping ship in the last few months at an eight-fold increase of the rate of them jumping ship. Eight-fold!


And more.


This year will NOT be the same old ****; it's NOT going to be any business as usual; it's NOT going to see any continuation of the domination/power of the goddamn dark bastard elites having sway over us in the world any longer.


I'm on the 24-hour alert list that the Freedom Reigns site has, so I'll certainly send out an alert once I get it and I hope that I'd be right at my computer as soon as that alert gets sent out.


I'm going to find a way to catch and preserve lots of crow to send out to you guys who don't think that the mass arrests would happen ... or I may eat that crow as well ... who knows? But all the signs in the world are pointing strongly towards the mass arrests happening.


FWIW,


~Mozart

[etm567]

OMG!

I'm calling the police because i saw a stray dog, i looked the telephonenumber up and there was this test: "How smart are you? How many triangles do you see? And then i see your triangle avatar CeltMan and after 7 months i just had a clear diagnosis of Lymedisease 2 hours ago.


Won't the dog be put down, most likely?

[Bill Ryan]

Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


Who and where?

Please post links and references for us. Many thanks -- that would be really helpful.

[Carmody]

[QUOTE=alamojo;481159]

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship.
[...]
So, in essence, no captains, captains.... are for people who sleep, people who do not understand what they are.

Yes, and a while back it was teachers with Lord Sid and his followers...

Carmody, you wrote on another thread that David Wilcock's high profile exposed him to disinformation. This of course also applies to our good friend Bill Ryan, whose recent low profile is therefore a good thing :)

I read somewhere else on this forum that Cliff High dismissed DW's work because he accepted Dan Burisch's testimony. This of course also applies to our good friend Bill.

So when Bill dismisses DW, we have two captains on the same ship issuing contradictory instructions. This is only disturbing to those who need a captain figure.

Captains are a thing of the past. On a lighter note, when I was a ten-year-old schoolboy, we read the following poem about a captain called... Drake (Sir Francis Drake, who defeated the Spanish Armada) and who promised to come back from the grave:




Henry Newbolt, Drake's Drum

DRAKE he's in his hammock an' a thousand mile away,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?)
Slung atween the round shot in Nombre Dios Bay,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe.
Yarnder lumes the island, yarnder lie the ships, 5
Wi' sailor lads a-dancin' heel-an'-toe,
An' the shore-lights flashin', an' the night-tide dashin'
He sees et arl so plainly as he saw et long ago.

Drake he was a Devon man, an' ruled the Devon seas,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?), 10
Rovin' tho' his death fell, he went wi' heart at ease,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe,
"Take my drum to England, hang et by the shore,
Strike et when your powder's runnin' low;
If the Dons sight Devon, I'll quit the port o' Heaven, 15
An' drum them up the Channel as we drummed them long ago."

Drake he's in his hammock till the great Armadas come,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?),
Slung atween the round shot, listenin' for the drum,
An' dreamin' arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe. 20
Call him on the deep sea, call him up the Sound,
Call him when ye sail to meet the foe;
Where the old trade's plyin' an' the old flag flyin',
They shall find him, ware an' wakin', as they found him long ago

i was heavily targeted with disinformation a while back.

i was given a story, that no matter how it was to be communicated, would have had potential to be the trigger point or the back story for starting up major issues in the middle east.

I'm thinking that it would be expected for me to communicate this story via a few given channels. this, due to me having built up my capacity for delivering good information, as a person in good standing.

The problem is that the information was a war starter if it was good..and a war starter if it was bad. This, again, with regard to providing a solid believable backdrop.

Thus the transferring of the 'story' was bad, in ANY form of transfer or communication--whatsoever.


It was shaped to be explosive irregardless of how it could be interpreted.

Then.... a body was provided to give structure to the story, the body was delivered on the international/global level.

This story, even a trickle or an idea, was not shared, not with anyone. Not a single freaking hint. Too freaking dangerous.

And that is all anyone will ever hear about it, until well after it has no coin on the world stage.

[transiten]

OMG!

I'm calling the police because i saw a stray dog, i looked the telephonenumber up and there was this test: "How smart are you? How many triangles do you see? And then i see your triangle avatar CeltMan and after 7 months i just had a clear diagnosis of Lymedisease 2 hours ago.


Won't the dog be put down, most likely?

Excuse my bad English, i don't think it was a "stray dog" (we don't have those in Sweden actually) but a dog that most likely had lost his/her owner or maybe run away....don't know if there's some symbolism here also????

[Carmody]

mms stands a good chance of being capable of curing lyme disease, IIRC.

[Paladin14]

relevant,
pasted from http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/

Obama Rejoins ICC, US No Longer “Rogue” State

American War Criminals Now Subject To Laws US Enforces on Others



By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor



In a surprise move, President Obama signed an executive order rejoining the International Criminal Court, an organization established originally by the United State to enforce international law and punish war criminals.

The US left the court under Bush in order to protect those responsible for kidnapping, drug running and torture. They may now be arrested, even if American office holders or members of the military or CIA, which, oddly enough, many of those responsible for such heinous crimes are.

Almost all facing prosecution are, curiously enough, members of the Republican Party and are trying to spin a return to freedom and justice as America giving up rights. The only right sacrificed are the rights some of the 1% and key officials had to murder, rape, steal and run drugs.

They may now be arrested under the same laws that applied to Gaddafi, Saddam and other “war criminals” that America has seen fit to bring to justice.

A careful read of one of the trickiest documents I have ever seen limits arrests of US elected officials as long as they are in office. Language protecting the military is less clear if not clear at all.

In doing so, Obama even puts himself at risk but the risk is far higher to Ashcroft, Gonzales, McCain, Lieberman, Bush (all), Cheney and a list of war criminals who may number in the thousands.

As to how far the ICC is willing to go is questionable. The organization tends to arrest only those of dark skin or targets of American foreign policy.

Perhaps that will change with the Arab Spring and elections in Europe which has gotten rid of some and may eventually remove nearly all the old leaders, most of whom are potential suspects in war crimes.

When we see Interpol put the cuffs on McCain and Lieberman and “perp walk” them out of the Senate, we will know we may get America back.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I want to say something to those who think that David Wilcock and Drake are full of **** with regards to the pending mass arrests.


They have made it very clear a number of times that they have a TON of information that would fully prove to the public that The Plan that was planned by certain people in the military really does exist and that the people involved really are planning to move forward to arrest the perpetrators of the evil Cabal.


But if either Wilcock or Drake released any of that information, they could totally jeopardize the plans for the mass arrests to happen. The military has made it clear that they won't move until the "T"s and the "I"s are crossed with the new financial system full functional and ready to step into the giant shoes of world-wide financial management that will have been forcefully vacated by the Federal Reserve.


David has personally assured me in emails that they have not released a TON of information that would prove, beyond doubt, that these mass arrests are not only being planned, but that they are doing a ton of tactical positioning to get ready to do this very complicated project.


There are so many signs from all over that the mass arrests will happen. Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


CEOs have been jumping ship in the last few months at an eight-fold increase of the rate of them jumping ship. Eight-fold!


And more.


This year will NOT be the same old ****; it's NOT going to be any business as usual; it's NOT going to see any continuation of the domination/power of the goddamn dark bastard elites having sway over us in the world any longer.


I'm on the 24-hour alert list that the Freedom Reigns site has, so I'll certainly send out an alert once I get it and I hope that I'd be right at my computer as soon as that alert gets sent out.


I'm going to find a way to catch and preserve lots of crow to send out to you guys who don't think that the mass arrests would happen ... or I may eat that crow as well ... who knows? But all the signs in the world are pointing strongly towards the mass arrests happening.


FWIW,


~Mozart

Mozart, i have the utmost respect for the information you put out for public scrutiny, i mean that, and in no way i say David is full of it ( how could i, he has done much more work, about 99% then i ever did), nevertheless ANYBODY can be taken for a ride knowing or unknowing.

I am happy to hear there is still much information kept on the wraps wich is to be revealed in the hopefully near future, but you can not expect from anybody ( we are probably all disappointed this sh!t is taken so frigging long) to go with the latest hot news, we had some news lately ( since Charles) and it all went south and or nothing came to pass.

You are not dealing exclusively with none believers, i do not blame anybody for being disappointed, the last 1.5 years took a serious toll on people, just keep that in mind.

If en when this massive possible change eventually does happens 70% of avalonians will eat hats, if not hats will be on sale for dump prices.

[Mozart]

Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


Who and where?

Please post links and references for us. Many thanks -- that would be really helpful.


http://www.news-us.org/doc/GlobalMassResignationsList_Arrest_120416.pdf


This list has apparently not been updated for the month of April, so, hopefully, the pace of arrests will have stepped up.


But it's so eff'n hard to really track these arrests, given that the bloody-bastard MSM will barely cover these arrests anywhere.


I found this cool video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKhTUU35X4


Make it go viral. It's a good one, and best of all, it has typed-in captions and no narration, so anyone can follow it, especially a nearly deaf guy like me.


Oh, David Wilcock also said that 2 or 3 dates for the mass arrests have already been postponed for various reasons, plus that the good guys in the military are getting anxious about the delays of the mass arrests.


~Mozart

[indigopete]

The military has made it clear that they won't move until the "T"s and the "I"s are crossed with the new financial system full functional and ready to step into the giant shoes of world-wide financial management that will have been forcefully vacated by the Federal Reserve.

I don't know what planet you're living on - it's not this one. Don't you think a new world financial system would require a bit of co-operation from those that need to implement it ? (i.e. The cictizens of the world concerned with trade, finance and equity). It's kind of like trying to build a new ship while your still in the existing one. You talk as if it's a walk in the park - just "cross the t's, dot the i's and drop the new financial system in". A "drag & drop" world financial system that can be prepared in secret, then popped in when ready.


There are so many signs from all over that the mass arrests will happen. Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.

No they're not. I live in Europe and there are no more arrests than usual and the ones that are are not of "cabal" members - they're of students protesting against austerity measures.

A significant number of Rupert Murdoch's editors and senior journalists have been arrested - that was due (amongst other things) to members of the public boycotting companies like EasyJet who advertised in his Newspaper and forcing the whole privacy invasion scandal into the public arena.


CEOs have been jumping ship in the last few months at an eight-fold increase of the rate of them jumping ship. Eight-fold!

I think your possibly just saying that because you've heard other people saying it. i.e. you're being a "repeater". Have look at the actual individual resignations and their circumstances. Then ask yourself if it looks like a given individual resigned his post because of an impending 'purge' of the cabal or for the reasons given. I have done that and wasn't very impressed. The last 3 years have seen unprecedented financial chaos - it's inevitably lead to a lot of shake-ups in a lot of companies - but people are not jumping ship en-masse. Furthermore it's middle manager "nobody's" that are cited by most "ship jumping" lists. All the usual suspects who are responsible for operating the main arteries of the world financial system are quite happy at their posts and are staying.


But all the signs in the world are pointing strongly towards the mass arrests happening.

When are they happening ? If people in the military are so disillusioned why haven't they just left their jobs ?

Why don't you ask about CBS ? CBS is supposed to have "broken from the cabal". Have you gone and looked at their news stories for evidence of this ?

Mr Drake seems like a pretty honest guy to me, but he said the other day that they basically (paraphrasing) hadn't significantly penetrated any of the broadcasting stations. (Maybe they're planning to supplant all media management when the arrests happen, but if that's the case, why allude to trying to influence them at this time ?)

Jees, I feel like a J-REFFer making all these point-by-point challenges and there is no group I can stand less than J-REFFers, however the total histerical wishfull-thinkingness of the mass-arrest case is just so embarrassingly apparent that I can't help myself. It wouldn't be so bad if people did a bit more objective digging into everything instead of just sitting back and waiting (endlessly) for everything to happen (Kerry's interview with Keith Scott is a great start I think).

Pete

[RMorgan]

Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


Who and where?

Please post links and references for us. Many thanks -- that would be really helpful.


http://www.news-us.org/doc/GlobalMassResignationsList_Arrest_120416.pdf


This list has apparently not been updated for the month of April, so, hopefully, the pace of arrests will have stepped up.



Hey Mozart,

This list looks more like a resignation list, not an arrests list.

This list is interesting, but unless compared to other resignations that occurred on the past years, it doesn´t means nothing, statistically.

If, for example, we had other lists of resignations from the past ten years, and the above list is at least 25% above average, then we would have something that´s worth a serious study.

Cheers,

Raf.

[ThePythonicCow]

Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


Who and where?

Please post links and references for us. Many thanks -- that would be really helpful.

Searching for the word "arrested" in recent posts by Sabrina yields the following:

Some 21 arrested in the Murdoch-Sun-Fox-News scandal http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=457880&viewfull=1#post457880
Increase that estimate to 45 arrested in the Murdoch-Sun-Fox-News scandal http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468865&viewfull=1#post468865
Approximately 20 bankers arrested world wide between Oct 2011 and Mar 2012 - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=460686&viewfull=1#post460686
British FX trader Alex Hope - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=461327&viewfull=1#post461327
In March 2011, Rome broker Gianfranco Lande - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=462027&viewfull=1#post462027
10/26/11 (INDIA) Beed District Bank (Coop Bank) CEO B S Deshmukh - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
10/26/11 (INDIA) Beed District Bank (Coop Bank) former CEO A N Kulkarni - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
2/02/12 (VENEZUELA) Banking Crisis Arne Chacon - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
2/03/12 (UK) UBS London trader, Kweku M. Adoboli - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland Sr Equities Trader Jason Edinburgh - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland director equities bus. Vincent Walsh - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
2/16/12 (UK) Marex Spectron senior trader Michael Elsom - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468238&viewfull=1#post468238
April 13, 2012 Mongolia Former President N.Enkhbayar arrested - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=468855&viewfull=1#post468855
04/16/2012 Daniel Cristinus Gunawan, head of treasury at Jakarta Bank Mayapada Srijaya branch - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=469564&viewfull=1#post469564
04/16/2012 Italian Valter Lavitola, businessman and publisher on various charges of bribery and fraud http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=470271&viewfull=1#post470271
Dr. Michael Herzog Arrested By German Authorities (dubious, in my view, WhiteHatsReport) - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=477696&viewfull=1#post477696
04/29/2012 manager of Gold Consult Micro-Finance Limited, Ebenezer Inkum on charges of defrauding clients - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41059-Massive-Bank-and-High-Profile-Resignations-Across-the-World&p=477745&viewfull=1#post477745

Summary - a few dozen Fox-Sun-News employees, and several dozen bankers and financiers (none of the highest level CEO's) world wide.

In my estimation, the arrests of some second level bankers and financiers is to be expected (even more than this, actually) given the very large bubble of financial fraud that has just (in the last 4 years) broken. Such is typical following financial bubble burts.

[foreverfan]

Wilcock is still fighting back. Just as an observer... perhaps Bill should get some steak sauce.

[Mozart]

CEOs have been jumping ship in the last few months at an eight-fold increase of the rate of them jumping ship. Eight-fold!

I think your possibly just saying that because you've heard other people saying it. i.e. you're being a "repeater".




Pete,


Thank you for your response and your very-well-crafted post. It was so easy to read! You made good points in your post.


No, it's not hear-say. My "eight-fold" statement stems from the SEC record of the resignations of CEOs in the USA. Not guess work, not hear-say; FACT.


Here's a paste of from the OP of a thread that I started some time ago:




Anyway, corporate burnout has always happened in the corporate world, so people leaving corporations has always happened at the rate of about 2,000 resignations per quarter, per the EDGAR stats in the SEC, which requires corporations to file paperwork for every single resignation of CEOs and CFOs in corporations.

So, in lieu of an inserted graph, I'm going to have to make-do.

The average CEO/CFO resignations has been 2,000 per quarter for many years, ok?

Each "X" represents 400 resignations, ok?

1st Quarter 2011
XXXXX (2,000

2nd Quarter, 2011
XXXXX (2,000)

3rd Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX (4,000)

4th Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX (7,000)

1st Quarter, 2012
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX (16,000)


So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.




It's fact, not fiction. There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?


Edit: Welcome to the forum, Pete, btw.


~Mozart

[Seikou-Kishi]

If Bill Ryan eats his hat, I'll craft him a new one from only the finest unicorn hide.

I'll even replace the raw milk, but I cannot guarantee it's condition after shipping.

[foreverfan]

Mozart is singing the "Bill Eat You Hat" blues. Love Ya Billy!!! ;)

[gripreaper]

This ship needs it's captain, and it is foundering without one!

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship

Then this is appropriate considering all the talk about "Admiralty/Maritime Law" and how it applies to the commercial realm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MYsii4DZY

Hang in there Mozart. I'm listening to David Wilcock interview Winston Shrout, and it's obvious Wilcock is totally lost when it comes to this topic, and Winston is not being very clear either. Looks like I may have to do that post I've been talking about.

[indigopete]

Mozart -


No, it's not hear-say. My "eight-fold" statement stems from the SEC record of the resignations of CEOs in the USA. Not guess work, not hear-say; FACT.

No problem - I accept the figures. All I'm saying is that "mass-arresters" go raking up every single record of any kind of resignation, regardless of the circumstances, and "claim" it as a statistic.


There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?

Yes. For a start Europe is majorly * Bust *. Politicians are unable to own up to that fact but people working in the industry know that we are facing a huge timebomb - not Drake's crusaders - just a huge mountain of apocalyptic debt.

There is also an element of genuine "clearout" going on - but again - it's not Drake's crusaders that are causing it but simply regular pressure from grassroots public who are fed up with corruption (the News Corp acse is a possible example of that).

[gripreaper]

@ indigopete:

In order to close the quote, you need the forward slash. [/quote] You can hit "edit post" and go back and fix it.

Welcome to the forum by the way.

[indigopete]

In order to close the quote, you need the forward slash.

Thanks gripreaper. And thanks for the welcome ! (By the way, how do you get a smiley - I can't find just a regular smile on the emotions menu. [May be a personality defect I have])

[Anchor]

enough of the hat remarks....these are becoming like bad, bad tv re-runs

Why not? They are precisely on topic.

I'm still laughing at the idea of making pasta hats so that it is easier for people to eat them.

[ThePythonicCow]

I'll even replace the raw milk, but I cannot guarantee it's condition after shipping.
I'd suggest shipping the cow - let it be milked locally - but that would be rough on the cow.

Best to find a local cow.

[Mozart]

Hang in there Mozart. I'm listening to David Wilcock interview Winston Shrout, and it's obvious Wilcock is totally lost when it comes to this topic, and Winston is not being very clear either. Looks like I may have to do that post I've been talking about.




Gripreaper ~


I'm about to get my transcript team onto the project of transcribing this interview that you mentioned.


I'm eager to see your comments on the interview, if you feel like sharing. I hope that Shrout would share accurate information on this topic.


I found Shrout's webpage: http://www.wssic.com/index.html


I have not yet gone through his site to check out his info; I will do so as soon as I get my initial email out to launch our upcoming Project Shrout transcript work. I hope that this interview would be worth transcribing.


~Mozart

[Carmody]

enough of the hat remarks....these are becoming like bad, bad tv re-runs

Why not? They are precisely on topic.

I'm still laughing at the idea of making pasta hats so that it is easier for people to eat them.

I dunno..raw uncooked pasta can be pretty hard on the gutty-wuts.

As for the rest, as Cubu Goding Jr said in the film 'Jerry Maguire', "Show me the money".

I will admit to noting that the comments sections in most on line newspapers and magazines I've seen..have the comments seeming to turn wholly against any hidden agendas, lies, fabrications and NWO plans. This...on any front, on any subject.

[transiten]

[QUOTE=lunaflare;481212]enough of the hat remarks....these are becoming like bad, bad tv re-runs

Why not? They are precisely on topic.

I'm still laughing at the idea of making pasta hats so that it is easier for people to eat them.

Carmody said: I dunno..raw uncooked pasta can be pretty hard on the gutty-wuts.

transiten answered: Well Bill could just cook the pasta hat then!

Gosh! This is the second time my other computer starts itself within 5 minutes apart!!!! Normally i have to stick in a screwdriver to push the button that is stuck....what's happening here???? Any electrician around for explanation or is someone pulling my leg from the other side/dimension?

[WhiteFeather]

For me,,,,Im consciously sending out my intentions that all these arrests will become a reality in my vortex. Within our Thoughts lie powerful suggestions. What we think we become. Ill get my handcuffs ready, just in case. Hey You never know.

http://www.bartcop.com/bush-handcuffed607.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KPMuH6q0p7E/SGozmPt_8YI/AAAAAAAAADY/MofZxx1zaRU/s400/handcuffedSlickWillie.gif

Dont they look great with silver bracelets on Peeps? : )

Awaiting an arrest warrant for Larry Silverstein leaseholder of WTC 7.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/19/news/photos_stories/cropped/larry_silverstein--300x300.jpg

Lucky Larry Silverstein is next to go and spend the rest of his life behind bars, that cockaroach.

[Alan]

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship.

Yes, perhaps the captain/ship analogy is inappropriate here -- the captain of a ship generally barks orders, and the crew/passengers are obliged to blindly obey.

What this board needs, IMO, is leadership, and it has been lacking in Bill's absence. I hope this is not offensive, it is not my intent.

[gripreaper]

People want captains, in order to have the captains tell them what to do on the given ship.

Yes, perhaps the captain/ship analogy is inappropriate here -- the captain of a ship generally barks orders, and the crew/passengers are obliged to blindly obey.

What this board needs, IMO, is leadership, and it has been lacking in Bill's absence. I hope this is not offensive, it is not my intent.

Uh, the ship is the conveyance, and the cargo is the asset which must be manifest once the ship is "berthed" at the dock. If there is a discrepancy between the contract and the actual delivery, then the ship is "tied up" to the dock and cannot leave port until the dispute is resolved. The ship becomes the surety for the discrepancy in the contract and is therefore, since it cannot leave and is tied up, "liened" against the dock.

If the ship never arrives at it's "berth" when it is expected, after 7 years it is assumed to be "lost at sea" and the cargo is presumed to be dead.

Now apply this to commerce and Admiralty and see if it begins to make sense.

A captain and his crew need to have a high degree of solidarity in order to survive, as the sea can deal out atrocious circumstance, and so can pirates. The ship is a nation unto itself when it is at sea, and therefore mutinies can be deadly to the entire crew should solidarity be lost.

[DouglasDanger]

I have two hats. I got a new one last September:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_two_hats_sm.jpg
Both hats are quite safe.

Okay sorry Everyone but I have to be honest and tell New'hat and Bill something, The way Hat is tipped slightly on its brim in the picture on the left, it is giving New'hat the stink eye or "your time is near its end " look.
You see I recieved an Email from Hat not long ago when New'hat entered the sceen. Hat became quite jellous of New'hats fresh light tan and the way its brim is so firm and perky. Hats demands where like an old dog eyeing the new pup of the pack, to give New'hat an offer it could not refuse..
If in the future Newhat isn't anywhere to be found, It was an inside Job! Hat is guilty! Hat may have even set this entire thing up just so New'hat could get eaten...Who knows how far hat will go to off New'hat..
I refused Hats offer Bill, one peach pie, I work for a minimum of 2, But I can not promiss Hat has not contacted anyone else... ;)


(( I just had to!! :p,))

[Ernie Nemeth]

Well my hat is off to you all.

QN-p4mUbq6k

Bill, if you don't get to eat it, let's at least dance round it. Ole!

I vote it won't happen, though. Because:
It only takes one little change in technology and we won't even care who gets arrested.

[readytogo]

I'm kind of curious about the timing of this "World Liberation Day". Now maybe I'm just one of those weird numbers guys, but why5/5/2012? Add the 2012 together as the third unit and you get 555. The Washington Monument is 555 feet tall. Coincidence? I think not.

Knowledge, numerology, ley lines, energy, etc., are neither light nor dark, it simply depends on the intended use of such. Fire is an excellent example. So my question is what is the underlying intent of this 555 event. People can say "well we all come with positive intent, so there you go". I say not so fast. People take holy communion with good intent also, and most of us should know what that act really represents, and where that energy really flows to.

No rotten tomatos please, just asking the question. Has anyone else considered this? It seems to nestle in nicely with the Drake rage as well.
I have the same question going around in my head. But, I have decided to participate anyway in the hopes that it will bring about the energy necessary to push the housecleaning into action. At least, it is something that "I" can do.

[Wookie]

I'm wondering, with all the foresight like: looking glass, remote viewing, trained psychics, ET/ED contact, occult knowledge and rituals if this list of people would not have prebuilt their luxury prisons. To protect said super villains from the unwashed masses there secure underground and orbital prisons should be self contained and capable of enduring all imagined outside threats. Imagine with me that you "know" that this toilet bowl we have let our home be turned into is about to be flushed. Now lets really work those imagination muscles and pretend that we know 99% of the worlds population is just about ready to show up at our front doors with torches and pitchforks. We need to get to our under ground bases in preparation for the upcoming dawn of a new age. But if we all pack up at once the hordes will notice and lash out. Que the media circus, Que the lack of real, honest, and useful information about what is really going on because in would interfere with the trial. Let the puppets believe we are being arrested for our crimes. This will effectively pacify the majority and allow the relocation of our friends and family with little to no resistance.

Will the act of eating hats become the new graduation tradition or is the loss of raw milk another lesson to be learnt.....again because we failed last time...and a few times before that. I'm ready for the next lesson and I believe more and more souls are ready so onward fellow earth dwellers lets all learn something new.

Peaceful Journeys with Love Wookie

[sygh]

CEOs have been jumping ship in the last few months at an eight-fold increase of the rate of them jumping ship. Eight-fold!

I think your possibly just saying that because you've heard other people saying it. i.e. you're being a "repeater".




Pete,


Thank you for your response and your very-well-crafted post. It was so easy to read! You made good points in your post.


No, it's not hear-say. My "eight-fold" statement stems from the SEC record of the resignations of CEOs in the USA. Not guess work, not hear-say; FACT.


Here's a paste of from the OP of a thread that I started some time ago:




Anyway, corporate burnout has always happened in the corporate world, so people leaving corporations has always happened at the rate of about 2,000 resignations per quarter, per the EDGAR stats in the SEC, which requires corporations to file paperwork for every single resignation of CEOs and CFOs in corporations.

So, in lieu of an inserted graph, I'm going to have to make-do.

The average CEO/CFO resignations has been 2,000 per quarter for many years, ok?

Each "X" represents 400 resignations, ok?

1st Quarter 2011
XXXXX (2,000

2nd Quarter, 2011
XXXXX (2,000)

3rd Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX (4,000)

4th Quarter, 2011
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX (7,000)

1st Quarter, 2012
XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX (16,000)


So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.




It's fact, not fiction. There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?


Edit: Welcome to the forum, Pete, btw.


~Mozart

I'm thinking it has a little to do with this:

"Arnold wrote to investors that he was bowing out to “pursue other interests,” according to The Daily Mail. Past hedge fund managers who’ve shuttered their businesses, however, have done so for a variety of reasons, including the requirement that they register their firm with the SEC, the NYT reports."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03/john-arnold-enron-retires_n_1475574.html

[foreverfan]

http://www.stjohnte.com/images/eat-hat-cropped.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rKKexGdPjI

[sygh]

For me,,,,Im consciously sending out my intentions that all these arrests will become a reality in my vortex. Within our Thoughts lie powerful suggestions. What we think we become. Ill get my handcuffs ready, just in case. Hey You never know.

http://www.bartcop.com/bush-handcuffed607.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KPMuH6q0p7E/SGozmPt_8YI/AAAAAAAAADY/MofZxx1zaRU/s400/handcuffedSlickWillie.gif

Dont they look great with silver bracelets on Peeps? : )

Awaiting an arrest warrant for Larry Silverstein leaseholder of WTC 7.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/19/news/photos_stories/cropped/larry_silverstein--300x300.jpg

Lucky Larry Silverstein is next to go and spend the rest of his life behind bars, that cockaroach.

Where did these pic some from? Are they touch-ups?

[Dennis Leahy]

Please, guys, be more intelligent. No disrespect intended, genuinely. Ascension (either as in rapture or some kind of interdimensional transmogrification) will not happen, and neither will any mass arrests. Reality is both tougher and more complex than that. Many people here are deluding themselves with wishful thinking. Although understandable, there are no easy ways out.

A huge amount of hard work remains to do, and this will take a number of generations before this planet becomes more like the one it should always have been. There are no simple fixes.

If you believe that there are, the simple truth is that you are buying into a seductive delusion. There — I said it.

:)
No one can attain liberation and enlightenment for us. We still have to make the journey no matter what happens to our world; be it apocalypse or ascension.
Mixing "ascension" into the Drake/hat smoothie conversation is, well, a different matter - and I'm mostly with Bill on that. I'd go a bit further and say that whatever the capability of 'ascension' is, that humans have been doing it for millennia - it isn't restricted to those alive on Earth right now.

As far as the 'seductive delusion' I'd like to hear someone tell me exactly what it is we're being seduced from.

Those who are more aware are still turning on lights for those who are less aware - this goes on unabated. We haven't skipped a beat, have we?

Those who have made a commitment to building community, the 'ground-up' approach to solving as much of the mess as we can on a community level is actually picking up steam, so that focus is better than it was.

No one in activism has a clue about how to accomplish anything on a top-down level, so, unfortunately, Monsanto rolls on, banksters continue loading gold with bulldozers, 9 million more US homes are slated for foreclosure this year alone (to add to the previous 11 million), no one can touch Big Pharma, and they continue their insidious plans to make natural remedies illegal to further herd us towards pharmacological lifelong maintenance dosages disguised as medical "solutions." The education system in the USA will produce millions more of the most servile, insipid, vapid, video addicted, NASCAR watching, McPoison eating, psychotropic swallowing, flag waving, racist, intolerant, corporate-enabling, Black-Friday-stampeding miscreants the world has ever known.

We got nothin'. Worse, we got nothin' in the works!

If you are even half-awake, you have to see that we have no plan, no strategy, and thus no chance of touching the Dark Cabal or even several layers of management down from them. Some of us will get more and more selfish, more hermit-like, more isolated, and will ignore the plight of others. Some of us will do our best to grow the community movement, which is awesome but has no bearing on even slowing down the Cabal's darkest activities.

In short, Drake is NOT drawing us away from anything! If Drake's associated patriots get quietly snuffed, or fail in a blaze (that would be labeled as an 'attempted coup'), or if it was never real and fails to materialize at all... it changes nothing. We are exactly where we were - devoid of any plan or strategy to deal with the Cabal.

People joke and say US citizens won't rise up until they try to take away the beer...or guns, and from what I see, that's about right. Activists will keep on screaming at the castle walls, with exactly the same outcome as the last decades and decades of screaming at the castle walls.

Any of you who believe Drake is a "distraction", well, I won't call you names, I'll ask you to explain just exactly what Drake is distracting us from. I'm doing exactly the same amount of work on my own spiritual development and work in community as I would if Drake had never appeared.

So, if, as I contend, Drake is NOT a distraction from anything meaningful (especially if you're talking about the BIG problems, the genocide, ecocide, banksterism stuff), and if, as I contend, alerting citizens that something is going to happen (mass arrests) that may look like a military coup is strategy is not the same as broadcasting your whole plan, why the dire warnings that "we are being deluded?" So what if we are? You get to be the "I told you so!" chorus and rub our noses in poop and feel superior, right? Good for you! Great fun! After listening to Drake, I think there will be an attempt and I am willing to risk a stinky face to tell you what I think.

As far as I can tell (since I'm not a "militia" member), I'm asked to do nothing but tell some folks that a group of patriots say they are getting ready to perform mass arrests of bad guys, and do the exact same storage of a bit of necessities that everyone should have had anyway (it was called a 'larder' in days past, and we are idiots for ever abandoning the concept.)

Really, I'm as tired of the dire warnings as the folks that think this is all BS are tired of people "supporting" Drake or even those of us suggesting it is not an impossible scenario.

Whiskey_Mystic, if someone clears the snow off my driveway to allow my car to get through, or takes out the trash for me, they most certainly have provided a bit of (minor) liberation for me. However, in the spirit of what you wrote, I agree, no one can do my spiritual work, period. I don't even want someone to do that. It would be cool if Drake's friends could take out the trash. There will still be plenty of work to do even if they do that, and 100% of the spiritual work will remain no matter what.

Dennis

[gripreaper]

I thought there was a galactic council that got together after we set off some nukes back in the 40's and decided to lift the quarantine and come in here and intercede on our behalf and keep us from totally annihilating ourselves because the alien elite who came here thousands of years ago and boinked our women created a hybrid slave race and they needed to be stopped and were not allowed to rejoin their space brothers cause their bloodline was no longer pure, so they have been trying ever since to purify their bloodline and get off this planet while using all of us to do their bidding, and now they are virtually done with us and want to kill all of us before they leave and rejoin their comrades while we get to ascend and be saved from this nefarious intervention which we learned a lot from but did not consciously agree upon

And David Wilcock is the liaison, which all of the galactic councils, as well as all of the benevolent good guys on the planet agreed to let him spearhead the greatest transformation this planet has ever seen, the completion of the 26,000 year precession of the Equinoxes, as we all ascend into 5th dimensional consciousness and transform into the new earth on December 21st, 2012. So you better hurry up and get your house in order before the big day.

The timeline is assured and there is nothing we can do about it. Am I wrong about this? ;)

[foreverfan]

I'm tripping on Hopium....

[lelmaleh]

This is hysterical!

[araucaria]

Leadership is a useful notion if we mean a plurality of experienced hands working bottom up rather than top down as an autocrat would. We need no more great helmsmen.

This is not an arrest story, but here in Europe we have a new twist to the Jérôme Kerviel case. This is the 'rogue trader' who lost 5 billion euros for his bank Société Générale. He has now taken his employer to court for tampering with the illegal tapes they made of their interviews with him. There is a definite chance that something will come of this.

In 2010 he was jailed for five years and ordered to pay back the billions although he claimed he was just doing his job. He has also appealed this sentence.

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/04/27/kerviel-porte-plainte-pour-faux-et-usage-de-faux-contre-la-societe-generale_1692533_3224.html

[markpierre]

So, if, as I contend, Drake is NOT a distraction from anything meaningful (especially if you're talking about the BIG problems, the genocide, ecocide, banksterism stuff), and if, as I contend, alerting citizens that something is going to happen (mass arrests) that may look like a military coup is strategy is not the same as broadcasting your whole plan, why the dire warnings that "we are being deluded?" So what if we are? You get to be the "I told you so!" chorus and rub our noses in poop and feel superior, right? Good for you! Great fun! After listening to Drake, I think there will be an attempt and I am willing to risk a stinky face to tell you what I think.

Dennis


Thanks bro. I don't mind a stinky face either, but I don't really have anything to assert. If nothing else there's a power in bracing for tough times ahead in determination instead of the hopeless helpless depression and fear that makes you not want to bother.

If it's all a fraud then it's little more than insulting a corpse. Maybe a way of routing out more innocent potential terrorists from the herd.

We can all sit around in the internment camps and bitch about Drake and the enthusiasm he inspired.

[music]

I see some people missing from that list. Hillary Clinton, Karl Rove, George Soros, Justin Bieber....

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k543/music432/302087_245610358820049_100001132607086_635686_27338389_n.jpg

[araucaria]

In order to close the quote, you need the forward slash.

Thanks gripreaper. And thanks for the welcome ! (By the way, how do you get a smiley - I can't find just a regular smile on the emotions menu. [May be a personality defect I have])

For an ordinary smiley :) just press a colon followed by )

For a wink use a semicolon + ) ;)

Other smileys can be typed in on your word processor by putting the relevant word between colons (no spaces) e.g. : rapture : without the spaces produces

:rapture:

[CeltMan]

[QUOTE=Anchor;
I'm still laughing at the idea of making pasta hats so that it is easier for people to eat them.[/QUOTE]

Hi Anchor,

Perhaps you or other good folk can advise here?

I am trying to decide whether to just do 'one size pasta hat fits all'?

+ any ideas on 'flavours'? e.g. spicy, curry, smoky bacon(could be appropriate!!), cheese & onion, salt &vinegar, prawn cocktail???

------------------

Seriously though, I do concur with what some have said about 'people needing a leader figure'

Cannot see why a lot of people feel the need to 'give their power//allegiance to another'?

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Bill is needed here. You can´t mistake real leadership with the tyrannic model of leadership we currently have and are used to.

A good leader serve others as a mission, differently than a boss, who just give orders.

A good leader is a teacher, a guide, a friend.

If people didn´t need guidance, why they would be here, at Project Avalon, in the first place?

If people didn´t need leaders and guides, why so many are following Drake, Fullford, Wilcock and other similar persons?

The world is a mess. It´s normal to get lost sometimes and a person who´s not so lost can be very helpful to clarify things.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Chrononaut]

Talking about eating hats?
Well I don't know if this is fake or not..
But if this individual are telling the truth it would be possible that we gonna see a domino effect
very soon. Because Dr, Michael Herzog is a important link to the black hats in higher places.

Quote from the White Hats Report:


The White Hats Report..
Reporting What The Main Stream Media Refuses To Report:

Dr. Michael Herzog Arrested By German Authorities – Has Great Voice, Sings Like A Pro.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jmnPH-ZwC6k/TyIVIr-ogpI/AAAAAAAAAFA/YQmcSaXFd9U/s1600/herzog-1.jpg



THE PAST FOURTEEN DAYS

Please recall the winner-takes-all media confrontation between the White Hats Reports #35, #38 and #39 and a well known International Hedge Fund wherein Dr. Herzog tried to use a namesake as a front, hired some high priced legal muscle and used the well known fund to shield himself and his fraudulent activities for the beneficial interest of Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush.

More: http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2012/04/april-27-2012-white-hats-report-40.html

If I miss something, you let me know.

Best regards,

Chrononaut

[Seikou-Kishi]

For me,,,,Im consciously sending out my intentions that all these arrests will become a reality in my vortex. Within our Thoughts lie powerful suggestions. What we think we become. Ill get my handcuffs ready, just in case. Hey You never know.

http://www.bartcop.com/bush-handcuffed607.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KPMuH6q0p7E/SGozmPt_8YI/AAAAAAAAADY/MofZxx1zaRU/s400/handcuffedSlickWillie.gif

Dont they look great with silver bracelets on Peeps? : )

Awaiting an arrest warrant for Larry Silverstein leaseholder of WTC 7.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/02/19/news/photos_stories/cropped/larry_silverstein--300x300.jpg

Lucky Larry Silverstein is next to go and spend the rest of his life behind bars, that cockaroach.

I think if some powerful spiritual entity turned to Bill and said 'eat your hat and I'll arrange it' he'd eat his hat :D

[Alan]

Hey folks,

Bill is needed here. You can´t mistake real leadership with the tyrannic model of leadership we currently have and are used to.

A good leader serve others as a mission, differently than a boss, who just give orders.

A good leader is a teacher, a guide, a friend.

If people didn´t need guidance, why they would be here, at Project Avalon, in the first place?

If people didn´t need leaders and guides, why so many are following Drake, Fullford, Wilcock and other similar persons?

The world is a mess. It´s normal to get lost sometimes and a person who´s not so lost can be very helpful to clarify things.

Cheers,

Raf.

THANK YOU. Much better said than I could have....

[Alan]

Seriously though, I do concur with what some have said about 'people needing a leader figure'

Cannot see why a lot of people feel the need to 'give their power//allegiance to another'?

You don't seem to understand what "leadership" means, it certainly doesn't require giving power or allegiance.

Without leadership, lots of info is being shared on this forum, and the VAST majority of it is disinfo/BS. Sadly, there are many well-meaning but gullible folks hanging out here.

The ship is not progressing in any meaningful direction at the moment.

[cloudno7]

still thinking of money/wealth/sharing of wealth/ getting back all the money?????

Fulford says some 80 trillion $ will be shared.. whats the point???? Some one will be arrested... what happens next? A new financial system... how good it will be? it will happen in 2012, dec 21... why not now? Some one gets dreams and gets a message ... Credibility? Will other living beings (bacteria, virus, fungi, plants..... ) ascend to higher dimensions??? Why only we?

why don't we have Co-operation instead of competition. There are illogical boundaries. When you look at earth from space you don't see any boundaries, we see them only in maps. I hate anthropocentric universe ... I don't think we are special in any sense. The food we eat is digested by glut flora, we depend on plants & animals for everything, we don't exist w/o sun, we don't know what is light, we don't whether the stars that are out there are there or not, No idea why we die, .......... despite all this and countless things we still consider "humans are special"

We think nature is beautiful, awesome, inspiring etc ... try living in a remote place from all the comforts for a week. You will figure it out it is harsh, uncompromising and "impartial" (rich, strong, weak,
tall, fat... it doesn't bother) and if you don't know how to survive you will be dead.

Free Energy... Yes and no. It does exist but I have no idea how to tap it. But i won't wait for someone to reveal it... i do my own research. Like Virtual Particles, Casimir Effect, etc.

Magic... Hocus pocus.. something happened. I still ask how it happened? why it happened ? why only hocus pocus why not hacus picus? why does the atoms react to such words? why only to those words? what is sound (no one knows)? How did they figure out that it happens to only those words?? there are infinite no.of combinations??

Why am i not getting divine messages??? why only selected?? why not everyone gets it?, that will settle everything whats the need of messenger? To animals get messages too? Why am i not able to see Ultra violet rays that bees can see? where did language comes from?? In this hugeeeeeee universe why are we special? what happened before 10000 years ago or even befre that? why is this year 2012? why do animals extinct? why aliens come to USA only??

I got too many questions :(... and i don't settle for vague answers, approximations and assumptions

“Instead of filling a gap by guesswork, genuine sci- ence prefers to put up with it; and this, not so much from conscientious scruples about telling lies, as from the consideration that, however irksome the gap may be, its obliteration by a fake removes the urge to seek after a tenable answer.”—E. Schrodinger, Nature and the Greeks

Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth. Truth about everything. "everything".... Who we are? what and why is this universe all about? what are we made of? what is life? Rest assured is unnecessary info.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is suffering and We are suffering very badly :(. I wrote too much. I am sad.

[RMorgan]

couldno7,

A man who says that 80 trillion dollars will be shared with the whole population is a man who understands absolutely nothing about economy.

If something like this happened, it would cause such a huge inflation problem, that all this money would worth less than toilet paper.

This is one of the most pure pieces of incoherence I´ve ever read, but coming from Fulford, it doesn´t surprise me at all.

Cheers,

Raf.

[CeltMan]

Seriously though, I do concur with what some have said about 'people needing a leader figure'

Cannot see why a lot of people feel the need to 'give their power//allegiance to another'?

You don't seem to understand what "leadership" means, it certainly doesn't require giving power or allegiance.

Without leadership, lots of info is being shared on this forum, and the VAST majority of it is disinfo/BS. Sadly, there are many well-meaning but gullible folks hanging out here.

The ship is not progressing in any meaningful direction at the moment.

========

Just hate when some smart ass tries to misinterpret & twist what i am saying.

For the record fella, I am well aware what leadership means & entails. (from your comments, a lot more than you ever will!)

To expand, not that it should be necessary, I was referring to people who seem to want to worship any figurehead who pops up.

There is nothing wrong with admiring an individual for what they have achieved .

There was a case not so long ago here where a strange guy came on here claiming to be a guru. He gained an instant following--from a minority here....before he was exposed for what he was. ("My name is .....")

It is only Your opinion 'that the ship that is P.A. is not progressing in a meaningful direction'

Thankfully NOT an opinion shared by the majority here.

If you feel that way, why are you here at all?!

[Hervé]

[...]

all this money would [be] worth less than toilet paper.

[...]

Cheers,

Raf.

Now I understand Drake's recommendation to hoard toilet paper... it's the new currency!


:jester:

[Fred Steeves]

So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.




It's fact, not fiction. There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?


O.K., please allow me to intruduce myself, and play devil's advocate with that one.

Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".

My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.

Anyone with any shred of independence and self thinking is being systematically rooted out. My wife is redlining on being on borrowed time. It seems though they prefer to let people see the writing on the wall, and then become miserable enough to finally leave on their own. On the other hand, if you play ball and keep your nose in a brown state, you fare well, even if you are worthless.

Her daily stories about how new management is working, the mandatory ridiculous classes, sensitivity training, Human Resources, etc., all smack of Tavistock tactics.

So, give the devil his due, and tell me this is also a very likely explanation for people grabbing whatever they can from their stock plans and 401K's, and running for cover. Things are not necessarily as they seem.

Cheers,
Fred

[RMorgan]

O.K., please allow me to intruduce myself, and play devil's advocate with that one.

Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".

My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.

Anyone with any shred of independence and self thinking is being systematically rooted out. My wife is redlining on being on borrowed time. It seems though they prefer to let people see the writing on the wall, and then become miserable enough to finally leave on their own. On the other hand, if you play ball and keep your nose in a brown state, you fare well, even if you are worthless.

Her daily stories about how new management is working, the mandatory ridiculous classes, sensitivity training, Human Resources, etc., all smack of Tavistock tactics.

So, give the devil his due, and tell me this is also a very likely explanation for people grabbing whatever they can from their stock plans and 401K's, and running for cover. Things are not necessarily as they seem.

Cheers,
Fred

Hey Fred,

( If feel like Barney, from the Flintstones whenever I say that!) :)

Thanks for your input. I agree with you 100%.

I´ve even written a thread exactly about it a few days ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44386-Be-careful-with-what-you-wish

Cheers,

Raf.

[9eagle9]

I shared a similar experience but I won't reiterate but difference being it was a company that was spirituality based, hosting all sorts of 'informed' new aged gurus who just let that **** walk right in the door in spite of all their 'enlightenment'.. Same tactic, let them become so miserable the employees fled the company. Don't have to pay un-enjoyment that way.

Predictably enough half the office initially rallied round the battle axe (who began plotting whom would be cut off at the knees six weeks before her start date.)
because some 'change' was needed. I held my position that'd she'd have the company on its knees along with everyone else so I was the first to go.

No one is safe from that sort of thing no matter what company not even the 'enlightened' ones. Espeically the enlightened companies because they think everyone that intrudes on their doorstep is going to look out for them.













So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.




It's fact, not fiction. There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?


O.K., please allow me to intruduce myself, and play devil's advocate with that one.

Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".

My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.

Anyone with any shred of independence and self thinking is being systematically rooted out. My wife is redlining on being on borrowed time. It seems though they prefer to let people see the writing on the wall, and then become miserable enough to finally leave on their own. On the other hand, if you play ball and keep your nose in a brown state, you fare well, even if you are worthless.

Her daily stories about how new management is working, the mandatory ridiculous classes, sensitivity training, Human Resources, etc., all smack of Tavistock tactics.

So, give the devil his due, and tell me this is also a very likely explanation for people grabbing whatever they can from their stock plans and 401K's, and running for cover. Things are not necessarily as they seem.

Cheers,
Fred

[frozen alchemy]

Funny initial post which has sorta devolved into something serious and almost sinister, in it's way. We're in big trouble here on this little blue ball and I really don't think an Edgar Cayce wannabe reincarnate and a Vietnam vet good 'ol boy, not to mention Tolec and the Andromedan Council, are gonna save us.

Ya know, if I were a (relatively soul-less) senior level banking or political executive, and I'd been making six or seven or more figures for Lo These Past Decades, and the economy was now gone completely to **** and there was now completely, OBVIOUSLY, solidly no hope of a recovery, and what with Fukushima blowing off enough lethal radiation to poison an 9 Foot Draconian Warrior, I'd be giving my notice too, and hightailing it down to the southern hemisphere to some nice resort type town as far away from the Japanese tradewinds as possible.

If even THREE, count 'em, 3! of anyone on this list is arrested, given a perp walk in full view of the Fox News Channel cameras, and denied bail with multiple charges of financial irregularities and mass murder alleged (except for Justin Bieber, I don't think his music has actually killed anybody...), I'll personally buy everybody on this board a nice new Pasta-Hat. With a helpful jar of sundried tomatoes...

[Lost N Found]

Bill, first of all, I thank you for structuring this forum, I have followed you somewhat on Project Camalot and think you are a very positive person. I only have one thing to say here, Please don't eat the hat, eat something nastier. I rather like the hat and you can send it to me after you eat something nastier.

[wynderer]

after the Patriot Act was passed in the USA -- 500 plus pages totally trashing our Constitution -- i learned that most of my fellow citizens either did not care or were too afraid to even think about it

after this, i came to the conclusion that my countrymen & women would not wake up until 1) their wallets --$$$- -- were affected , & 2) when their bellies were affected [coming soon]

this seems to apply to humanity at large

i personally would much rather see the satanic pedophile network brought down -- going after the bankers & CEOs is just lopping some branches off the tree

[DreamsInDigital]

Now take the Patriot Act and compare it to The Nazi Constitution. Almost word for word replicated.

[Chester]

Arrests are starting to happen in Europe, I hear, so it's starting.


Who and where?

Please post links and references for us. Many thanks -- that would be really helpful.

Herzog is an interesting one... justonearrested

[Chester]

Talking about eating hats?
Well I don't know if this is fake or not..
But if this individual are telling the truth it would be possible that we gonna see a domino effect
very soon. Because Dr, Michael Herzog is a important link to the black hats in higher places.

Quote from the White Hats Report:


The White Hats Report..
Reporting What The Main Stream Media Refuses To Report:

Dr. Michael Herzog Arrested By German Authorities – Has Great Voice, Sings Like A Pro.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jmnPH-ZwC6k/TyIVIr-ogpI/AAAAAAAAAFA/YQmcSaXFd9U/s1600/herzog-1.jpg



THE PAST FOURTEEN DAYS

Please recall the winner-takes-all media confrontation between the White Hats Reports #35, #38 and #39 and a well known International Hedge Fund wherein Dr. Herzog tried to use a namesake as a front, hired some high priced legal muscle and used the well known fund to shield himself and his fraudulent activities for the beneficial interest of Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush.

More: http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2012/04/april-27-2012-white-hats-report-40.html

If I miss something, you let me know.

Best regards,

Chrononaut

Thank You - some one who is actually paying attention to the reality unfolding... it only takes one or two cards for the whole house of cards to crumble.

Also, any one ever seen a ponzi scheme that didn't have its day of reckoning?

Anyone ever consider that there's no solid line between the ones who get to live and the ones who die in the plan to reduce the world to 1/2 billion people? Anyone ever consider some of the "born in" and "sucked in" might have just enough of their soul left that they may suddenly look at a photo of their children and pull forth something within and hold on to that secretly such that if the day the first few cards are indeed pulled, they are ready to turn on their masters?

Its not so hard to see it... something has to give and it doesn't have to be generations down the line.

[onawah]

Hey Fred, Alex Collier said that the first wave of replacements would not be any better than the ones they replace, and that it wouldn't be until year's end that the bad eggs would be cleared out of the nests and the white hats would be put in place.
Kind of like the process of letting all the scum surface to the top of the pot so that it can be skimmed off-- it will become more and more evident who the scummy ones are, and so exposing them for what they are will be easy.
There is no way for us to know the veracity of that at this point, of course, but I think he did issue that warning in hopes of preventing unnecessary disillusionment and disappointment, and I, for one, am going to accept that gift from him and reserve my judgement on this issue until year's end, or March of 2013, at least, which some have said would be the time when it would be more evident how things have changed.
Meanwhile, I think there are certainly better things to do than endlessly speculating.










So, this is a MASSIVE jump in the corporate resignations. Did corporate burnout suddenly jump EIGHT-FOLD in just a few months? 800%?

No.




It's fact, not fiction. There is SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY going on in the corporate world. Way above and beyond normal corporate burnout. Can anyone point out any key cause(s) of this phenomenon to be happening?


O.K., please allow me to intruduce myself, and play devil's advocate with that one.

Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".

My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.

Anyone with any shred of independence and self thinking is being systematically rooted out. My wife is redlining on being on borrowed time. It seems though they prefer to let people see the writing on the wall, and then become miserable enough to finally leave on their own. On the other hand, if you play ball and keep your nose in a brown state, you fare well, even if you are worthless.

Her daily stories about how new management is working, the mandatory ridiculous classes, sensitivity training, Human Resources, etc., all smack of Tavistock tactics.

So, give the devil his due, and tell me this is also a very likely explanation for people grabbing whatever they can from their stock plans and 401K's, and running for cover. Things are not necessarily as they seem.

Cheers,
Fred

[ThePythonicCow]

Herzog is an interesting one... just one arrested
I have been unable to find any confirmation of the alledged arrest of Michael Herzog, that doesn't originate from a White Hats Report.

My fellow mod christian was unable to confirm the related alledged German court case numbers.

As I stated last week, I am wagering that this Herzog arrest report is fictional.

[araucaria]

Bill, first of all, I thank you for structuring this forum, I have followed you somewhat on Project Camalot and think you are a very positive person. I only have one thing to say here, Please don't eat the hat, eat something nastier. I rather like the hat and you can send it to me after you eat something nastier.

You're right, we don't want Bill eating the hat. I knew a dog that ate a slipper and died of cancer. After moving to the southern hemisphere before Fukushima ever happened, it would be inconsequential of him to put his health at risk like that.

I suggest as an alternative punishment for Bill's thanking people for posting let's say unkind remarks about his friend DW a couple of glasses of champagne, which should be enough to give him a nice little hangover to mark this unlikely occasion that we are going to make happen. ;)

[Tommy]

Assuming this is the same Michael Herzog, then this is the latest mainstream news I could find on the man:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/05/04/israel-is-not-being-deligitimized/

They allude to things that might be relevant to the topic:

In its worst manifestation the crazed anti-Israel lunatic fringe sometimes takes out an arrest warrant against an IDF officer for crimes against humanity or some such nonsense. This is serious, and ways need to be found to stop this ugly move on the part of the fringe. But aside from the arrest warrants, their impotence to do anything whatsoever to undermine or delegitimize the state of Israel is not threatening.

Don't know what to make of all this, but it certainly does not sound like he "is arrested". I suggest reading the source. If I am for some reason referencing the wrong person here (or you suspect so) please check the data and report.. I am not taking a stance in all of this, frankly I think it is (generally) to much "he said she said" on this very topic.

All I can leave you all with is a big "hmmm..."

Happy hunting :)



Herzog is an interesting one... just one arrested
I have been unable to find any confirmation of the alledged arrest of Michael Herzog, that doesn't originate from a White Hats Report.

My fellow mod christian was unable to confirm the related alledged German court case numbers.

As I stated last week, I am wagering that this Herzog arrest report is fictional.

[The Truth Is In There]

mozart, your list of what "we have" is quite impressive but the way i see it all you really have right now is the believe that what you've been told you have is true. while i'm not a die hard skeptic like bill and am inclined to believe in stuff that can't be seen, there should be at least something pointing in that general direction.

however, what i do see is a completely different picture of the world without most of the "positive" events people like wilcock, drake and fulford are foretelling. i'm not against spreading love & light and so-called positive vibrations, to be sure, but in this i'm siding with bill, simply because almost nothing that can actually be seen is pointing in that "mass arrests" or "ET intervention" direction while quite a lot is pointing towards things like "fukushima-ELE", ww3, an epidemic of physical and psychological diseases and lots of other commonly called "negative" things.

nevertheless it makes sense to focus on what one wants to experience and not what one doesn't (something most people do, unfortunately, and a view people like alex jones or david icke promote by focusing on the "negative" stuff). so while i don't believe you're right i hope you are. (hope is a bitch)

i'm convinced that in the long run all will be well for everyone concerned but i don't believe that it's going to happen through man-made events. imo the only solution to the mess we're in is a celestial event (solar, most likely) and by extension a terrestrial event that will wipe the slate clean (pun intended).

[ThePythonicCow]

Assuming this is the same Michael Herzog, then this is the latest mainstream news I could find on the man:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/05/04/israel-is-not-being-deligitimized/
Interesting possibility, that this Brig. Gen. Michael Herzog might be the one purportedly arrested - thanks.

[Space_Ace]

I will just say that I am learning all I can about 2012 and remaining optimistic. I predict 75% chance of mass arrests this year. Some will predict higher, others lower. Time will tell(few more months) what exactly is going to transpire. We know very little and all of us have our own theories and beliefs. There is only one version of the truth and that remains to be seen. Drake has said more stuff, but I can't find any transcripts. Who knows where I can find them?

[Chester]

Herzog is an interesting one... just one arrested
I have been unable to find any confirmation of the alledged arrest of Michael Herzog, that doesn't originate from a White Hats Report.

My fellow mod christian was unable to confirm the related alledged German court case numbers.

As I stated last week, I am wagering that this Herzog arrest report is fictional.

Thanks Paul - I fell for it perhaps

[Maia Gabrial]

Since we're all manifesting things more rapidly than ever, I'd say KEEP ON VISUALIZING THE ARRESTS! They will happen.
But I don't want Bill to eat his hat. Maybe a good meal... :becky:

[nomadguy]

Surely that Hat is well seasoned by now. A Super food hat :hat:
Or maybe its more like lambis bread. whos knows, we all have a taste of our own foot now and again, what is the big deal?

as to The underlying subject and all that jazz, :evil::flypig::cantina::crazy_pilot::spy::gaah:
IMO- all of this proof that what we are seeing around us, is the unveiling of what is and has been in place already.
And I liken the idea of following predictions to be about a good idea as eating ones own hat.

[ThePythonicCow]

Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".
That Celente guy does have a way with words :).


My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.
Very helpful ... thanks!

[frozen alchemy]

It probably goes without saying, but one of the significant problems here is that, we've all been indoctrinated to think that the 'real' news comes from certain sources that have long since been taken over by the government and various power cabals. So, it used to be, if Walter Cronkite* said it happened, well then by golly, it happened and exactly as Walter said it did.

So now we're all waiting for the mass arrests, the ETs, and all the rest to show up on the news, and it may never be broadcast even if we see it with our own eyes and know it to be true.

How does one parse out this little bedeviling conflict of known and unknown? At this point all we can do is get on line (a form of electronic mass telepathy, BTW) and read what everyone else says, and try to make sense of it all. More facts and a lot more chaff, too..

*Little aside that's fun: Back in the day when it was announced on CBS News that 'Walter was on assignment', he was really on his sailboat taking a vacation.
The name of the sailboat was 'Assignment'. :)

[qbeac]

Hi Bill, even if you lose the bet (and I hope so), I wouldn’t want you to eat your hat, but I am curious about your reasons to believe the elite arrests won’t happen. Why do you think David Wilcock and Drake & Co. are wrong or have been fooled? Why?

In any case, if the elite are not arrested, and if the Electrical Engineer Pedro Gaete is right (I mean what he explains about the elite’s capacity to provoke artificial earthquakes, etc., see links below), there are good reasons to believe the elite might attempt to provoke a huge earthquake (or even cataclysm) on Dec-12. And this is not a joke, see these two links and judge it by yourself:


Post 1. The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--

Post 17, pag. 1. The elite might have the means, motive and opportunity to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--&p=481379&viewfull=1#post481379

So, in case Pedro Gaete was right, it seems to me the wisest and healthiest thing to do would be to arrest the elite ASAP, don’t you all think so?

And what can we (regular people) do about it? Well, everything we can think of, for instance: spreading the word, supporting David Wilcock, Drake & Co., Neil Keenan, Keith Scott, the good guys at the Pentagon, the Federal Marshals, the Sheriffs, the patriots, etc., and anybody who sincerely is trying to work towards that goal.

Btw, I just listened to the interview of Kerry Cassidy to Keith Scott, and Keith seems to be sincere and credible.

[RMorgan]

Hi Bill, even if you lose the bet (and I hope so), I wouldn’t want you to eat your hat, but I am curious about your reasons to believe the elite arrests won’t happen. Why do you think David Wilcock and Drake & Co. are wrong or have been fooled? Why?

In any case, if the elite are not arrested, and if the Electrical Engineer Pedro Gaete is right (I mean what he explains about the elite’s capacity to provoke artificial earthquakes, etc., see links below), there are good reasons to believe the elite might attempt to provoke a huge earthquake (or even cataclysm) on Dec-12. And this is not a joke, see these two links and judge it by yourself:


Post 1. The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--

Post 17, pag. 1. The elite might have the means, motive and opportunity to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44492-The-Elite--s-Secret-Plan-to-Artificially-Provoke-Dec-2012-Cataclysm-Revealed--&p=481379&viewfull=1#post481379

So, in case Pedro Gaete was right, it seems to me the wisest and healthiest thing to do would be to arrest the elite ASAP, don’t you all think so?

And what can we (regular people) do about it? Well, everything we can think of, for instance: spreading the word, supporting David Wilcock, Drake & Co., Neil Keenan, Keith Scott, the good guys at the Pentagon, the Federal Marshals, the Sheriffs, the patriots, etc., and anybody who sincerely is trying to work towards that goal.

Btw, I just listened to the interview of Kerry Cassidy to Keith Scott, and Keith seems to be sincere and credible.

Dear qbeac,

Allow me to try to answer some of your questions. I´m pasting something I´ve posted on another forum, as a reply to a similar question.

Do you know that when they take a bunch of animals from a zoo, who are used to live in a cage for years, and then release them in nature? You know, they don´t have a clue about what to do, how to behave, what to eat and these sorts of things.

We´re animals as well and we behave exactly the same. We live in this cage for so long, that we don´t actually know what to do. We´re all clueless about what we should do, so we push the responsibility to others.

The huge majority of us just can´t live without the help of the system, without computers, cars, packed food and these things.

We live a symbiotic relation with the system. They supply us with everything we "need", and we give them what they want.

The problem is that they want much more that we can give, and we think we need much more things than we actually need.

We´re just like a computer program. We´re just not programmed to live outside this cage, we don´t know how to remove this cage and most of us don´t even want the cage to be removed.

You know, life outside the cage can be pretty hard. Can you imagine yourself hunting for food, making your own cloths, building your own shelter?

It´s so comfortable to live in this cage, that most people don´t actually care, because they are too lazy to get their hands dirty and actually do things.

So, the people of this world will actually do everything they can to keep living in this cage for as long as they can; it doesn´t matter the consequences.

The biggest problem is that we want to change things, but we don´t want to abdicate of our comfort!

You know, we expect someone to magically fix this situation, while at the same time, completely preserve our life style and modern life conveniences, but doing both is impossible.

Using the cage metaphor, we want the cage to be removed, but we don´t want to abdicate of the comfort of living in the cage! Now, how is that possible?

If we want to change things, that´s very simple! Stop consuming! Go live a self-sufficient life style, Thoreau style, no tv, no electricity, no fuels, no computer; stop supplying the system with your money and stop taking ANYTHING from the system!

Looks simple right? But it´s not. People don´t want a this life style, because it´s too laborious.

Unfortunately, my friend I know why people want so badly for a miracle to save us. Because we know we wont save ourselves, and if no one else saves us, we know we´re doomed.

I really hope for a miracle, but I don´t believe in miracles.

Cheers,

Raf.

[frozen alchemy]

So Raf, what you're saying is that H.G. Wells' 'The Time Machine' describes us now. Most of us are the Eloi, simple minded children who are fed, housed and clothed for free and are then used as food for the Morlocks?

Sounds about right. I wonder what Wells knew back then; he certainly was prophetic.

[MMA_Fan]

Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.

http://consciouslifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Benjamin-Fulford.jpg

Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;
http://insidereel.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/alan-look-hangover-ii.jpeg?w=810

[araucaria]

Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.

http://consciouslifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Benjamin-Fulford.jpg

Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;
http://insidereel.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/alan-look-hangover-ii.jpeg?w=810

I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day :)

[MMA_Fan]

I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day :)

I was joking :p

[araucaria]

I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day :)

I was joking :p

I should hope so too. But it is no joking matter imho, that's all.

Edit : It is even less of a joke when you consider the other side of the coin, namely the façade of respectability we get from those who are really up to no good.

[gripreaper]

Quite frankly I'm still worried about the hat, even though it is just an inanimate object.

But is it fair to say that anything in the universe is inanimate? Aren't we all made of the same stuff and all one in "all that is" in the cosmos? And who am I to objectify the hat? If we are in fact moving towards unity consciousness, is not the idea to magnify the things which bring us together, and not continue the divisiveness which has plagued our planet since the elite power mongers severed the Feminine energy from the matrix and turned our reality into the Patriarch?

The hat has been a fixture on Bill's head for as long as I can remember, and now Bill tells us he bought a new hat last October? Why would he do that? Is Bill anticipating eating one of his hats, and therefore bought a new hat in anticipation? And has it been specified which hat he will eat and which hat he will keep? Maybe Bill is objectifying one of the hats and favoring the other which would lead me to believe that it may be difficult for some of the rest of us to fully know the potential fates of either of the two hats.

And besides, there are other energetic imprints which have been associated with the old hat as well, at least the older one has been many miles and visited many continents, and has first hand knowledge of the evolution of Bill's journalistic chapter of his life, and the hat has seen many of the souls who have poured their heart out to bring us the truth and expose the lie, and the hat has witnessed many of these encounters. What does the new hat have to offer which could point to the new paradigm which we are shifting into? Can the new hat act as a guide and become the new archetype, and symbolize the great transformation of the ages we are now in, and do it with honor and integrity, as the old hat has done?

Surely we should know these things before we go out and purchase salsa, marinating sauces, herbs and spices and other condiments, should we not?

[9eagle9]

He actually looks more like my brother in law Rob after he's had a few. Not a judgement just the way it is.


Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.

http://consciouslifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Benjamin-Fulford.jpg

Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;
http://insidereel.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/alan-look-hangover-ii.jpeg?w=810

[Sloppyjoe]

Nothing will happen. Regardless of how much evil they have done in this world it's all for a purpose, people come into this life playing a role for a reason, whether good or evil. This world we live in will always be in duality of good and evil, it's supposed to be so that we can learn and eventually move onto the next phase, whatever that may be. So just as john lear says, learn to live your life without hate greed and envy and you will be fine. It's easier said than done but truthfully people come back and fourth to this world until they get it right, and they have eternity to do it. So just enjoy what you have and who you are, and always strive to become a better person, for it will pay off in the end.

[161803398]

Its all just to pump people up and then deflate them. Typical PTB tactic.

[161803398]

Drake - Draconis - Dragon. When the Christian knights came they killed the Dragons. It's now the end of that 2K year cycle that the Theosophists talk about: the end of the age of Christianity and the beginning of a new age of heroism. Its very poetic but, in real life, would his name be so perfect for the job. (ok, and this is a joke, I think, but Drake is also a male duck and remember Leda and the Swan, anyone?).

Or, as it sometimes seems, this is all a familiar play staged for our enlightenment: an unforgettable history lesson entitled The Real Reasons behind the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire or Why the Germans really couldn't stop the Rise of Nazi Germany.

Anyway, that list isn't long enough:

"In 1946 the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal concluded that without IG Farben the Second World War would simply not have been possible. The Chief Prosecutor, Telford Taylor, warned: "These companies, not the lunatic Nazi fanatics, are the main war criminals. If the guilt of these criminals is not brought to daylight and if they are not punished, they will pose a much greater threat to the future peace of the world than Hitler if he were still alive."

http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-firms-mobile/11153-bayer-a-history

[EnergyGardener]

Mozart,

I appreciate your constructive purpose for this thread, and the attempt (including my own) to let Bill off the hook for dissing Drake, Ascension and the very idea that the US and other Millitaries have had enough of the "Sellout" of humanity and are doing the right thing as we speak to remove the CABAL, render justice and help usher in humanity's freedom.

However, after reading Bill's posts and all of those that thanked / supported his responses, and now, Drake's recent response to PA and PC, I further appreciate the loss of respect for leadership for once well thought of entities. The concern of anyone's eating of hats made of corn, pasta, straw or felt is no longer my concern whatsoever. I have much more important issues to concern myself with.

[tenacity1]

any direction to those reply posts you mentioned .I'm not one to have the time to wade thru reams of posts

[EnergyGardener]

any direction to those reply posts you mentioned .I'm not one to have the time to wade thru reams of posts

He posted five times on this thread; you could have found them all if you had simply flipped through 5 pages instead of asking me to do that for you.

I'm not one to do another's work for them such as this.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

It's now the end of that 2K year cycle that the Theosophists talk about: the end of the age of Christianity and the beginning of a new age of heroism.

Tangent Warning.

If you don't mind me saying, it is the end of the era of the great teachers and gurus and the beginning of the era of the teacher within. The wisdom within will now take precedent over looking outside of ourselves for ultimate wisdom.

[PHARAOH]

As time appears to pass, looks like Mozart will be doing the eating. It won't be Bills hat either. :attention:

[kooky]

Well...things don't quite work that way. On one hand many people that ETs/Reptilian/Greys are all running the world. They can do whatever they like, appear at will, abuct you, kill you and these people in power are all satanists and they do weird things behind closed doors. But we need to
arrest them.

Arrest them? That is something that the police do, the police are the authorities at the lowest level. At a human level lets say. Do you see where I'm headed? On one hand you say lock them all up! We want freedom, we don't wanna pay mortgages and live in debt, we don't want our foods poisioned, we don't want this we don't want that, we wanna go to the stars! But your way of solving that is by putting those in charge in jail. If things really go that far and we do indeed take over and get true freedom and everything else with it......do you really believe there will even be such a thing as jails or even a police force? If you're all gonna unite to take the globalists down, it's all or nothing. You can't pick and choose which parts of society you want to keep and what parts you don't. If they really are working for evil entities do you really think locking them up is gonna do any good? If that was all real then I'm sure these entities would easily get them out of jail and then really show themselves to humanity and what they can do. But then the good ETs are preventing that I hear!

Well there is the funny thing. I think people would be quite happy with that happening and seeing it happening. Even if they didn't get everything else they wanted along with it I think if you turned the TV on tomorrow and there was some kind of widespread disclosure on the news or mass sighting or even through the official channels they announce alien life exists! Whether it was real or fake or what the intentions would be behind showing people that out in the open, most people would find that cool. Seeing real live aliens and saucers flying around. They would easily drop any gripes they had. Just like most people right now are being screwed around by the system or they have no money, if you stop screwing them around or give them money they will shut up. The system isn't fair by any means but if you give people enough to live WITHIN it then they're happy enough.

So when it comes to David Wilcock or any other person that claims to have news or knows what is going on behind the scenes...you need to take it with a grain of salt or if you're gonna invest all your time into them and buy their products and buy their books then please realise that they can only do that because nothing has been disclosed to the public. That's not to say what they are saying isn't true but I promise you that if any kind of disclosure happened tomorrow, if people saw aliens or flying saucers, real ET or man made they would drop this forum like a hot potato. Just seeing it for real with their own eyes is all most people want. Of course people have dreams, don't we all? I dreamed this, I dreamt that and of course they can get away with it because nothing can be proven one way or the other and since there is no evidence of ETs being real, of course they can tell you about them meeting aliens and being given information and going on spaceships. Of course most of that stuff can be pulled apart within minutes but what you end up with is a group of people, a small part of society all feeding each other what they want to hear. David Wilcock is a bit like a celebrity to you, as are most witnesses. They do the talking, they tell you what you want to hear, it's nice to hear, some of you take it serious and have some dreams and believe the dreams to be real. You talk about it every day, you're feeding the illusion that it is real. And this thread is a follow up to that, the idea that all these high power players will be arrested and put into jail is feeding the illusion of what you all want to happen. If it doesn't happen this year well......that's not to say it wont happen next year and I'm sure these whistleblowers will give the reason why, maybe there was a war underground that no one heard or maybe it was out in space or there will be some reason.

What you have is many people with a set way of how things need to be done, how the world needs to be, how things SHOULD be but no one really does anything. It's like going to these UFO conventions and exopolitics events. I can imagine most people going to these things do have good intentions, I probably would do if I went and listened to Bob Dean and Richard Dolan and Richard Hoagland and you probably feel good afterwards and determined and they're selling books and you're buying them and I'm gonna find out the truth! I'm gonna spread the word! Then after a few days that wears off, you've had a good time, you've met some nice people but you're not doing what you set out today and you're out of pocket money wise. Guys like Richard Dolan and Richard Hoagland have done their job and have your money in their pocket. It's not really they win/you lose but they never claim to work miracles and fight for humanity, they just research and pass on information, charging you for that. Not that there is anything wrong with that but what happened to all that confidence and good nature you had to change the world?! It's gone. It's like going to a film or a music concert or something, you could see a singer on stage, thousands of people going crazy for them and you walk out of there feeling good and you think I wanna do something like that, I wanna make lots of money I wanna do something I love. But the feeling goes after a day or so and you're back at the job, back to paying bills, back to normal life.

It's all well and good hearing what you want to hear and telling others what they want to hear but there is also a lot of people who wont go and make a difference, they wont go and expose the criminals, they wont go and make that career changing choice to go and live the dream. They wont rock the boat. But it's up to all of you, look at Benjamin Fulford. He's talking to you. he isn't saying I'm here to do this and that and I'll do it alone, there's a reason he's talking to a camera, whether it's lies or truths he's saying he's telling you because he wants all of YOU to help make things right. Just like Dolan and Hoagland, they spend years getting the information and putting it together but if you want the truth on UFOs or what is on the Moon? Well you need to do that yourself. They never claimed to find out the causes or change the world, they just got the information together. As long as their bills are paid and there is food on the table they couldn't care less. One of the reasons why I said Dolan would never go to Gillilands Ranch, if it was all real then the last thing he would want is to see it for himself, UFOs zipping all over the place. No no, he's quite happy speculating. Do you see what I mean? Anything that happens in this world is down to all of you. You're on your own.

[Sirius White]

Bill Ryan, I'm glad you got your sharp sense of discernment goggles on.

We will ride this out brother.

We see things very similarly. You remember why you were born, the light protects you.

[mosquito]

.....

Do you know that when they take a bunch of animals from a zoo, who are used to live in a cage for years, and then release them in nature? ...

Raf, you are soooooooooo spot on with this summary.

I'm hoping/praying for the strength to take those steps, not just for me, for all of us.
.

[Mozart]

As time appears to pass, looks like Mozart will be doing the eating. It won't be Bills hat either. :attention:


Bill will eat his hat. ... :yo:

[Whiskey_Mystic]

As time appears to pass, looks like Mozart will be doing the eating. It won't be Bills hat either. :attention:


Bill will eat his hat. ... :yo:

Tenacious little monkey, aren't ya?

[Mozart]

Tenacious little monkey, aren't ya?




:chess: ... :hat:

[Butangeld]

The military has made it clear that they won't move until the "T"s and the "I"s are crossed with the new financial system full functional and ready to step into the giant shoes of world-wide financial management that will have been forcefully vacated by the Federal Reserve.

I don't know what planet you're living on - it's not this one. Don't you think a new world financial system would require a bit of co-operation from those that need to implement it ? (i.e. The cictizens of the world concerned with trade, finance and equity). It's kind of like trying to build a new ship while your still in the existing one. You talk as if it's a walk in the park - just "cross the t's, dot the i's and drop the new financial system in". A "drag & drop" world financial system that can be prepared in secret, then popped in when ready.

If I'm not mistaken, the new financial system is called BRICS - stands for Brazil Russia India China South-Africa. Wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_BRICS_summit#Development_bank
They say that "...not meant as a sign of abandonment of existing global financial institutions..." but if the current system collapses - and I don't see what else the current system can achieve by continuing to print money, then this would be a prime candidate for the ready-made replacement.

[Mozart]

[

If I'm not mistaken, the new financial system is called BRICS - stands for Brazil Russia India China South-Africa. Wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_BRICS_summit#Development_bank
They say that "...not meant as a sign of abandonment of existing global financial institutions..." but if the current system collapses - and I don't see what else the current system can achieve by continuing to print money, then this would be a prime candidate for the ready-made replacement.


Butangeld ~


You are not mistaken, bro. You got it.


It is not only the BRICS who are standing up against the Federal Reserve bastards, it's the 143+ nation alliance that is also standing up against the Fed.


~Mozart

[Mozart]

*SIGH*


I had hoped that it would not come to this, but Bill Ryan won this bet that he had with me, fair and square. His famous hat is safe.


So now I need to pay up, yes?


How do we do this, Bill? There are raw milk places there in England ... oh, wait, Ecuador, so how do we do this? I want to honor my end of the bet by getting you raw milk, somehow. There had better be raw milk available in Ecuador.


And as you all know, David Wilcock has come out with a new post...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1085-2012freedom

... in which he indicates that his dream data is strongly supporting -- even stronger than any dreams that he's had about ANY event -- the idea that the Cabal will fall, eventually, likely by the end of this year.


Well, I sure as **** hope that David is right.


But in any case, I need to make-good on my losing bet with Bill.


~Mozart

[Anchor]

Just do what the channelers do - move the deadline :)

[gripreaper]

Mozart,

I don't think there is anyone here at Avalon who would disagree with you that the cabal needs to come down. There are many threads here discussing how to be prepared for this paradigm shift, both personally and collectively.

I think where the chasm lies is: how this would occur and in what timeframe.

Those who prognosticate timeframes are generally wrong, and how to bring the cabal down by arresting them and indicting them in their own judicial system has also proven to be wrong.

For heavens sake though, in the last few weeks, a GFL channel has admitted to being duped, while David admits he was headed down the wrong road, and the Drake cheerleaders have been very quiet. So, it's encouraging to witness the shift in consciousness away from the psy-ops and distractions, to what we need to do, which is to go within and internally commune with our soul sparks and take counsel from our inner being, while preparing to provide for our own basic needs at the local level, and moving away from supporting the corporatocracy.

NO MORE TIMELINES, OR END DATES, OR CHANNELING TO TELL US WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OR HOW TO GO ABOUT MAKING THINGS HAPPEN

WE ARE CREATORS AND WE WILL CREATE THAT WHICH WE COLLECTIVELY WANT.

I see progress, I see the energies shifting. I'm encouraged.

[wobbegong]

Thanks for this thread Mozart, I think it was great how you managed to make it interesting and funny at the same time. This shows how even if we don't always agree, we can still share a smile. You also declared the outcome in a most honorable way:-)
p.s. not even Italy's ex premier (not on the list) got arrested...something definitely went wrong:-)

[Bill Ryan]

There had better be raw milk available in Ecuador.


I already have raw milk delivered to my door. (Really!)

:)

Yes, just maybe the alternative community is learning.


The channelers are (or should be!) worrying whether their information is all a psy-op. (It mostly is.)
Anyone who talks about Ascension (as in some magical, inter-dimensional, beam-me-up-Scotty-and-get-me-outta-here) will sooner or later realize that nothing like this is going to happen. (We have to take responsibility for our own mess, folks. Do you really think that when you came here, or returned here, this lifetime -- this was a mistake?)
Anyone who thinks that 21 December this year will be anything other than a relatively normal day will also be sorely disappointed. (It may take several generations before we see the results of the growing wave of major awareness change on the Planet. This is a marathon... not a sprint.)

[Dennis Leahy]

Mozart, what exactly was your bet with Bill? I know Bill was going to eat his hat, how about you?

As an aside, I paid up on my lost bet with Paul quite a long time ago. My bet was raw milk. I conceded when Drake said he was going to start a lawsuit. I knew he was F.O.S. (medical term: constipated) when he flipped out.

Dennis

[mosquito]

Well done Mozart for conceding defeat, kudos to you bro'.

Whatever it was that YOU were supposed to eat, I vote you be forgiven for having the guts to admit you lost ;)

[Brizil]

There had better be raw milk available in Ecuador.


I already have raw milk delivered to my door. (Really!)

:)

Yes, just maybe the alternative community is learning.


The channelers are (or should be!) worrying whether their information is all a psy-op. (It mostly is.)
Anyone who talks about Ascension (as in some magical, inter-dimensional, beam-me-up-Scotty-and-get-me-outta-here) will sooner or later realize that nothing like this is going to happen. (We have to take responsibility for our own mess, folks. Do you really think that when you came here, or returned here, this lifetime -- this was a mistake?)
Anyone who thinks that 21 December this year will be anything other than a relatively normal day will also be sorely disappointed. (It may take several generations before we see the results of the growing wave of major awareness change on the Planet. This is a marathon... not a sprint.)


Bill, you mentioned earlier that you would leave the U.S. due to things to come. I think you still believe this after reading some of your recent posts. Do you believe things will stay calm in the U.S. until 2013?

[foreverfan]

Wilcock will live to lie to us another day!

[Strat]

Yeah, if those folks are arrested I will buy you all new hats of your choice regardless of the cost. Also a round of drinks.

[gripreaper]

Yeah, if those folks are arrested I will buy you all new hats of your choice regardless of the cost. Also a round of drinks.

If the cabal is arrested, you wont need to buy us all hats because we will all be rich with the release of the prosperity funds and hats will be free! :p

[ThePythonicCow]

As an aside, I paid up on my lost bet with Paul quite a long time ago. My bet was raw milk.
The milk was yummy - thanks!

[Ultima Thule]

Much appreciation to Mozart and Bill!

Have you people taken notice to how all the BIG dates and deadlines are relatively far in the future, months ahead to say the least. This seems to create "enough" time in our minds for big changes to happen - never mind how unpropable they seem. This pattern seems to lure us into hoping something to happen and not acting in our lives. If someone would say that Barack Obama & co will be arrested today, no-one would believe it.

UT

[HaveBlue]

Surely if even one person on that list was arrested it would be worthy of a hat eating. If those that have the jobs of arresting those worthy of being arrested actually did the job the public pays them for and expects them to do they would indeed already been arrested quite some time ago.

Why attack Drake over it? Is he not a man of courage and integrety? Is he not doing enough to help educate the public? Are you going to call us 'Bill Ryan groupies' next simply because we are members of the Avalon forum? Please let us all know where we can hear your superior efforts and broadcasts so we can become whateveryournameis groupies too.

[nonesuch]

Who needs the mainstream press to confuse or mislead us. We have David Wilcock and Greg Giles (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50407-GFL-channel-Greg-Giles-admits-he-was-scammed)...two entertainment professionals who are 'mixing things up,' starting now.

David sees the light and abruptly changes course from white-knuckling his Divinely ordained pursuit of The Cabal and their inconveniently dangling arrests to stepping out for a merry trot down Candy Cane Lane that winds its way to this month's sugary dreamtime provisions. In the meantime, Greg Of The Dark switches from channeling admitted liars from G-Fed to live-purging his equivocating, autobiographical nightmare directly from the self-important loudmouths du jour in his head.

Both writers seem nuts to me, but at least David is running the good race in a face-saving sprint back to the starting block. Yay, team Wilcock! Giles forgot to set his alarm, overslept and was disqualified. L-O-S-E-R.

Don't worry about my unpositive thoughts gumming up either man's end-time predictions or productions. Both bloggers have outsmarted lighter weight remarks than these by banning publication of any comments they consider 'negative'. They lifted this tactic directly from a bedtime story in which the Light won by outlawing all shadows...or at least by promising to take them to court someday!

If I were posting this to either man's site, my words would dissolve, invisible against a cloud-free sky aflutter with anthropomorphic, cartoon bluebirds draping triumphal rainbows from horizon to horizon until the starships burst into view. On Greg's site the rainbows would be portrayed by caustically dyed chemtrails but delete the accompanying sound file of asthmatic wheezing and you'd be watching the same sweet movie.

Under pressure from a demanding fan base, both Wilcock's and Giles' highly flexible values and 'just-like-real' clarity have risen to the occasion and are demonstrating some serious pandering leadership for a New Age!

And, like Dame Edna, I mean that in the most loving way. I really do. No thank you buttons or applause, please. Just throw money.

[Mozart]

I already have raw milk delivered to my door. (Really!)




Hey Bill Buddy,


Well, that's awesome that you are having raw milk delivered to your door. Man, I'm living in the wrong, damn country! I used to deliver milk to homes in my own biz, but it was all pasteurized milk, though.


Anyway, how about if I send some money to the guy who delivers your milk? Like through PayPal? How often do you get your milk? We never did discuss how much milk or how much money that I'd send if/when I would lose this bet.


So I lost the bet, now I need to honor my end of this deal.


~Mozart

[humanalien]

Arrest isn't good enough for those nwo types. They can
always pay a bond and get out of jail, only to have all
charges dropped against them later. That is how the
game is played.

Make the people think that head are rolling but in reality,
nothing ever changes.

[Carmody]

A fundamental that any warrior knows, that all animals 'in conflict' inherently know..is that discombobulating the opposite or counter in the given confrontation, is essential to any attempt to 'win' a situation.

That the discombobulation comes from within the given counterpart in the given battle or situation, and it is not issued from the given other side.

Thus, getting bent, in ay way, from or within any of this, weakens one's thoughts and capacity to balance and get out of such situations.

Seek detachment, as they say.

And if I incite you via tossing my mud or badly issued mental farts on this forum or this thread, I'm doing both you and myself, a terrific disservice (I'd be reflecting like a nervous monkey)... and I would be part of the problem, I'd be aiding the problem.

:p :)

[Bill Ryan]

I already have raw milk delivered to my door. (Really!)



Hey Bill Buddy,

Well, that's awesome that you are having raw milk delivered to your door. Man, I'm living in the wrong, damn country!

Yes, you may be!


I used to deliver milk to homes in my own biz, but it was all pasteurized milk, though.

Anyway, how about if I send some money to the guy who delivers your milk? Like through PayPal? How often do you get your milk? We never did discuss how much milk or how much money that I'd send if/when I would lose this bet.

So I lost the bet, now I need to honor my end of this deal.

You're being very honorable indeed. But I'm not sure if this modest Ecuadorian farmer has a PayPal account(!).

Only if you really insist!! -- you could send me $5 and I could then buy a gallon and a half of extra milk from him, courtesy of your generosity... and have some fun trying to explain to him and his wife what this bet is all about.

:)

[M6*]

Leave him on there!....We are in a house cleaning mode;-) M6*

[Mozart]

Only if you really insist!! -- you could send me $5 and I could then buy a gallon and a half of extra milk from him, courtesy of your generosity... and have some fun trying to explain to him and his wife what this bet is all about.



Yes, I really insist. $5 buys a gallon and a half of RAW milk? And gasoline is just a buck-48? Jeez. I really am in the wrong, damn country.


But the problem with my being in Ecuador is that I'm nearly deaf, so I'd have a hell of a hard time adjusting to the foreign language spoken there, plus I'd have to keep my hearing aid off most of the time, as I'd be sweating too much down there. I gotta be where it's cold/cool, like Canada -- so I'd have to wait for the Cabal to fall before I'd move to Canada.


I'd like to pay $15 via PayPal, then you can gift that farmer that money and ask for, say, a gallon and a half, then leave the rest to him as my tribute to his sincere efforts to farm/deliver the valuable, blessed raw milk.


At the moment, I have zero in my PayPal, so I gotta sell some things on eBay, then I'll send you the money -- why don't you send me your eBay name via email to me?


~Mozart

[SilentFeathers]

There had better be raw milk available in Ecuador.


I already have raw milk delivered to my door. (Really!)

:)

Yes, just maybe the alternative community is learning.


The channelers are (or should be!) worrying whether their information is all a psy-op. (It mostly is.)
Anyone who talks about Ascension (as in some magical, inter-dimensional, beam-me-up-Scotty-and-get-me-outta-here) will sooner or later realize that nothing like this is going to happen. (We have to take responsibility for our own mess, folks. Do you really think that when you came here, or returned here, this lifetime -- this was a mistake?)
Anyone who thinks that 21 December this year will be anything other than a relatively normal day will also be sorely disappointed. (It may take several generations before we see the results of the growing wave of major awareness change on the Planet. This is a marathon... not a sprint.)


A wise post for a guy with a funny hat.....

[Davidallany]

I'd like to pay $15 via PayPal, then you can gift that farmer that money and ask for, say, a gallon and a half, then leave the rest to him as my tribute to his sincere efforts to farm/deliver the valuable, blessed raw milk.


At the moment, I have zero in my PayPal, so I gotta sell some things on eBay, then I'll send you the money -- why don't you send me your eBay name via email to me?
That is very kind of you Mozart. I have forgotten to donate lately, to the sanest place on Earth that I know of. So I too will follow your example and donate with some of the little money that I have. Let us all do the same more often.

[HaveBlue]

When it is documented fact that PayPal panders to the governments of the world but particularly the United States by refusing to process payments of people and websites that expose the crimes of the said govts we have a personal responsibility to boycott paypal ourselves.

You have only two choices. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. There is no fence sitting. It is simple. Decide what you stand for now. Or soon you will be on your knees begging PayPal to process your order from Monsanto so you can get your terminator seeds to grow food or some very similar scenario.

These corporations only have power because you who give it to them.

About 3 years ago or so the mid day news came on the radio how the directors of New Zealands biggest power company Contact Energy had had a board meeting and decided that there would be no payout for shareholders this quarter but that $1500 was not enough pay for the hour and a half the directors spent talking about such things.

I immeadiately got on the phone to change power companies. I asked the lady on the call centre end if their phones were running off the hook yet. She said no to which i replied, good, I'm getting in early because they are about to!

And indeed they did. myself and 30 thousand other customers made the same phonecall as the news spread onto the 6pm and late news shows.

About 3 or 4 months later I got a call from a contracted company asking me if i wouldn't mind saying why I left Contact Energy and would I like to come back!

I told the lady that indeed I would tell her why I left and would never come back. I told her about the news show and she tried to actually deny it! Can you believe that! She said 'I don't think that is what happened'.!!! I replied, Lady, I don't think that is what happened, I KNOW it is what happened because I heard it with my own ears and it was the chairman of the board himself that said it, and not just some reporter saying it.

The lady on the other end of the phone said, OK bye. Just like that- gone! She would spend no more time on 'this one'. Maybe better luck with hopefully a less informed one next call.

Moral of the story (and it really is a 'moral') Never think you are 'just one person' and what difference can I make. Because 30 thousand of us all took the same action at the same time that chairman of that board did not stay chairman or even on that board for very long!

The profits from 30 thousand customers is considerable you see, especially is a country the size of NZ. It was at exactly the same time that the Prime Minister was on the news telling us all how we would have to 'tighten our belts' as a country together and the usual BS that PMs spout.

We, and that means YOU owe it to your family, yourselves but especially your children since they are the ones that have to put up with this BS if you do nothing about it, to choose wisely and consider and find out where every penny you spend goes.

Do not buy a product or service just because it is the cheapest or even the best. Find out where your money is going and what you are supporting before you part with it.


I am now with Trustpower as far as electricity goes and they are not the cheapest either by a very small amount but the profits go back into the community and run rescue helicopters etc...and paying slightly more than I could pay elsewhere is quite OK with me. At least it is not going into the already bursting at the seams pockets of greedy 'directors' who want in under 2 hours what takes most people 2 weeks or more to earn by doing real work, toil, labour, actually producing something.

Know that when you go to McDonalds to shovel that overpriced rubbish down your throats that the boss of that empire is a regular at Bohemian Grove. That is just one example of the new world order that you are likely supporting unless you make a concious effort not to be.