Killing For The Sake Of Killing, Teaching The Uninformed, And Feeling Great!

[seantimberwolf]

Hello friends.

Today i had an enlightning experiance.
While i was in the kitchen with my mother she saw an aphid (tiny fly)
It was on the Basil herb we have on the window, she went to kill it and i stopped her.

Something came over me and i was able to explain my reasoning in a manner she understood and was quite touched by.

I explained to her that she was about to kill for the sake of killing, that in her act she was knowningly about to carry out a small but significant act, maybe not on the material world but inside her mind and soul.
That even though it may insignificant to her, its part of natures plan and the earth mother does not create without cause.
That she should take a look at the bigger picture, that small fly has a purpose and it harms her in no way, i said this:
"look around you, is this creature affecting your world in a negative way?"
"does it infringe on you, does it destroy anything"
She then looked puzzled but understood i then told her that to kill this creature that only lives for a few days if that, is a violation of nature, its purpose is taken.
It costs her more energy to kill it, than to let it do its thing then die natural.

What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?
Does that mean we should do it, or does it mean we should protect the world and our life.
We are all linked, when you kill the spider in the corner of the room you kill a creature of purpose.
When you kill a dady long legs you kill a creature who only lives a day,
These are things we need to consider, if you can refrain from killing an aphid, then the idea of killing a Rhino because it has a cool looking horn is the ultimate violation of nature in my eyes and the world we should love.

Just wanted to share this with you friends, coincidently after i expalined this i stood there in the kitchen after she went into another room and out of nowhere there was loud clear birdsong outside and it felt like the earth mother recognising i understood.

It felt amazing stay strong friends and please think about the little creatures who make our world beautifull beyond belief!!

SeanTimberwolf

[wynderer]

thank you, Sean

i took a walk yesterday & -- i swear -- all the birds along the way were definitely wanting me to see them & hear their songs -- even normally shy birds would fly in front of me & sit in branches in full view

i thanked each for their beauty & their wonderful gifts of song

wyn


Hello friends.

Today i had an enlightning experiance.
While i was in the kitchen with my mother she saw an aphid (tiny fly)
It was on the Basil herb we have on the window, she went to kill it and i stopped her.

Something came over me and i was able to explain my reasoning in a manner she understood and was quite touched by.

I explained to her that she was about to kill for the sake of killing, that in her act she was knowningly about to carry out a small but significant act, maybe not on the material world but inside her mind and soul.
That even though it may insignificant to her, its part of natures plan and the earth mother does not create without cause.
That she should take a look at the bigger picture, that small fly has a purpose and it harms her in no way, i said this:
"look around you, is this creature affecting your world in a negative way?"
"does it infringe on you, does it destroy anything"
She then looked puzzled but understood i then told her that to kill this creature that only lives for a few days if that, is a violation of nature, its purpose is taken.
It costs her more energy to kill it, than to let it do its thing then die natural.

What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?
Does that mean we should do it, or does it mean we should protect the world and our life.
We are all linked, when you kill the spider in the corner of the room you kill a creature of purpose.
When you kill a dady long legs you kill a creature who only lives a day,
These are things we need to consider, if you can refrain from killing an aphid, then the idea of killing a Rhino because it has a cool looking horn is the ultimate violation of nature in my eyes and the world we should love.

Just wanted to share this with you friends, coincidently after i expalined this i stood there in the kitchen after she went into another room and out of nowhere there was loud clear birdsong outside and it felt like the earth mother recognising i understood.

It felt amazing stay strong friends and please think about the little creatures who make our world beautifull beyond belief!!

SeanTimberwolf

[seantimberwolf]

Thank you Wyn, sometimes it does feel like we are being invited BACK into there world, and i say that as we once lived amoung them :)
The great mother surrounds us, its up to us to hear her song!

[Carmen]

Ah, seantimberwolf, in my humble opinion this is one of the milestones of your journey of going home. I to, had this milestone as I guess many others here have.

A pause, a reflection, a knowingness of the sacredness of life.

[seantimberwolf]

Ah, seantimberwolf, in my humble opinion this is one of the milestones of your journey of going home. I to, had this milestone as I guess many others here have.

A pause, a reflection, a knowingness of the sacredness of life.

Thank you Carmen i really appreciate that comment, i have always loved nature and have always respected her and felt her, but today i just wanted to make someone aware of the balance you know?
of the reason we should care more. :)

SeanTimberwolf

[Taurean]

No matter how hard I try, I cannot show the same mercy towards Wasps, who's sole purpose in their life appears to be terrorising Humans and consuming Aphids.

[seantimberwolf]

No matter how hard I try, I cannot show the same mercy towards Wasps, who's sole purpose in their life appears to be terrorising Humans and consuming Aphids.


HA HA HA this is true, although i dont kill them, it is purely down to the fact they scare me, and i dont want there friends and family comming after me !

[conk]

I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

[jorr lundstrom]

Today a deer, young male came out of the forrest 100 feet from Maria
and me, we were sitting on our front stair drinking coffee and tea. It was eating
weeds and grass. I spoke with it and waved to it. It just ignored us. One
of our cats tried to impress the deer, pretending to attack it and tried to
look really big. The deer just looked at it, but once it lowered his head
and pretended an attack on the cat. They seemed to be playing,
I told Maria, that I would have big
difficulties shooting that deer. She said, lucky you, you dont have to, we
have food enough, if we had been starving it had been a different situation.
If one is in real need I might have been forced to kill it.
It was a magic moment lasting for half an hour. LOL


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All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Sidney]

I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.:spider:

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I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.

[conk]

I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.:spider:

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I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.but they are not superior! They just currently have the advantage. ;)

[Sidney]

I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.:spider:

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I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.but they are not superior! They just currently have the advantage. ;)

You are so right , very good point conk.!!

[Borden]

Sean, you beauty!

That is exactly how I see it. Tiny folk are an expression of life, of spirit, and not only do I never kill them, I spend energy on helping them out of scrapes they are not clever enough to fathom. Like my bath-tub, for instance. I've only ever been stung once by a wasp, and it was in late summer when they're tired and sluggish. This little guy stung me on the hand, which I'd rested where I sit at the computer without knowing he was there. When I realized what had happened I saw that it was completely self-defence, not attack. He ended up sitting next to my coffee mug and even crawling over my hand, and he was completely cool with that. He wanted the warmth and we understood each other.

(p.s. Starchild111, a black widow? That was pretty damned brave of you! Not sure what I would do in that circumstance.)

[wynderer]

I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

sprinkle cayenne pepper around where they come in & out

& talking, respectfully, to them -- a good chance to develop your telepathic abilities -- they do listen -- & have so much to teach us

i have had WAY more Animal friends than Human -- tho Humans are actually Animals also

[Debra]

Lovely post STW,

reminds me the first time that I consciously paid greater attention to the little ones - after years of panic because someone told me that bugs and such were not welcome - I went to a buddhist retreat for a few days and one lunch hour, with a monk sitting close by, a mosquito came to rest on my hand as I was eating a bowl of soup.

At the moment, it was like hyper reality switched on, that mozzie was suddenly so important, and what is more, it was communicating with me! I looked over at the monk and he half grinned at me.

Usually after 3 seconds, the stingers were already in. This time, I said, you and me, we are just spending time together, yes? And I trust you right now, there is going to be no biting.

And damn, it stayed with me for about 5 minutes as I slurped on some more soup. And off it went.

[Davy]

Thanks Sean so True,,,, I have learned that lesson and am very conscious of all creatures big and small we are all part of one and should have respect for all creatures, I'm sure everyone's heard the saying she or he wont even harm a fly,,, well that has become me, lol. And I feel like a better person for it. I think it is part of being awake and living life in a conscious state of mind being accountable for my actions every second of the day... you protected the small aphid and enlightened your Mother as well.

[Alekahn]

Thanks Sean for opening up dialogue about this facet of our relations with the Earth.
Many of us are awakening to this necessity and are finding new ways of responding to the animal kingdom in all of its stunning diversity. I laughed about the ants...in the same place here with that and carpenter bees (which are generally very gentle, yet destructive). Crafting a new relationship with all winged creatures is a continual practice for me in particular...especially when dealing, on a daily basis with creatures which can potentially kill us and/or impart powerful, viral toxins into our bloodstream. Venom, as it is sometimes called.

Then there are hornets, to which this body is...highly allergic. Lately for me, a meaningful test has come about through this wondrous creature, the Copperhead. I have trapped 13 in the past three years, 3 so far this spring. Most folk in these mountains unquestionably, without hesitation shoot them, for where you find one, you will find eventually a family of them. I cannot and will not however...thus hours of effort to humanely, with reverence, awe and significant frustration at times, relocate them. Trapping and releasing wasps, snakes (et al) is part of my "average" day now. A potent meditation it has become and is. For those with the responsibility of protecting young children and animals, matters become more complex, I do understand and is another worthy conversation. Teaching and raising our young of this reverence and respect for all life is critical at this point

I also concur about speaking to all creatures. I had a sister years ago who talked to wasps and if she asked them to move on to a new dwelling, within 24-48 hours, they were gone. No sprays, no chemicals, no killing. An agreement of mutual respect. I now attempt to do the same and can attest, it works some/much of the time, to the degree and level our awareness and understanding of our magical environment grows. Challenges and lessons clearly remain however...an ongoing process it is. I am grateful for the webs and nests of all sentient life...and there is no fear or enmity.

Sometimes, we humans, these fragile vehicles...
get bit on our evolutionary path. ;)

Peace all.

This is a juvenile with the yellow tail still visible...beautiful!
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[wynderer]

what a nice thread -- i feel safe here (:

i have a conviction in my heart that if & when the Shift comes, only those who are willing to live in non-violence , in peace, w/ALL living beings will make the Shift to 5D -- the Souls of Mother Earth & all the other created forms of life here will lead the way

wyn


Thanks Sean for opening up dialogue about this facet of our relations with the Earth.
Many of us are awakening to this necessity and are finding new ways of responding to the animal kingdom in all of its stunning diversity. I laughed about the ants...in the same place here with that and carpenter bees (which are generally very gentle, yet destructive). Crafting a new relationship with all winged creatures is a continual practice for me in particular...especially when dealing, on a daily basis with creatures which can potentially kill us and/or impart powerful, viral toxins into our bloodstream. Venom, as it is sometimes called.

Then there are hornets, to which this body is...highly allergic. Lately for me, a meaningful test has come about through this wondrous creature, the Copperhead. I have trapped 13 in the past three years, 3 so far this spring. Most folk in these mountains unquestionably, without hesitation shoot them, for where you find one, you will find eventually a family of them. I cannot and will not however...thus hours of effort to humanely, with reverence, awe and significant frustration at times, relocate them. Trapping and releasing wasps, snakes (et al) is part of my "average" day now. A potent meditation it has become and is. For those with the responsibility of protecting young children and animals, matters become more complex, I do understand and is another worthy conversation. Teaching and raising our young of this reverence and respect for all life is critical at this point

I also concur about speaking to all creatures. I had a sister years ago who talked to wasps and if she asked them to move on to a new dwelling, within 24-48 hours, they were gone. No sprays, no chemicals, no killing. An agreement of mutual respect. I now attempt to do the same and can attest, it works some/much of the time, to the degree and level our awareness and understanding of our magical environment grows. Challenges and lessons clearly remain however...an ongoing process it is. I am grateful for the webs and nests of all sentient life...and there is no fear or enmity.

Sometimes, we humans, these fragile vehicles...
get bit on our evolutionary path. ;)

Peace all.

This is a juvenile with the yellow tail still visible...beautiful!
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my favorite music video for the Animals

'No To Violence' by Supersoul Connection , a Slovenian band

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[seantimberwolf]

Great feedback guys, really loving this thread, it's so warm and is needed as off late, it seems the earth spirit understands us.
We are off her after all

SeanTimberwolf

[conk]

Once upon a time.....;)...........I was very depressed. I had divorced, was broke, alone, and had been betrayed by someone close. Often I would sit on the back porch and just stare at the trees or walk around and around the yard in barefeet. On one of my trips around the yard I spotted a tiny squirrel perched on a low tree limb. As a little test I walked toward him, seeing how close I could get before he ran up the tree. To my delight he allowed me to walk directly up to him, with inches. "Hey little buddy, where's your mother"? His head twisted sideways as if to listen intently. As I said a few more things to him he sprang off the tree on to my shoulder. Gasp! For a second I thought he was attacking me, but instantly realized it was much more. He needed a friend too. I walked back to the porch and he stayed with me. Next we went into the kitchen where I shared some raw pecans. The little bugger really like those! After quite a few nibbles he scampered back up my arm. "I HAVE A PET SQUIRREL"! My cousin came by and begged me for him. As my cousin lived in a country setting it seemed more appropriate for it to live there, so I gave in. He stayed with us for many years. Will never forget that furry friend, he showed up when I really needed a smile. He helped change my attitude and over the next few weeks my depression lifted and has not returned. Most wonderful experience.

[Alekahn]

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[wynderer]

Hi Alekahn -

imo, the Dalai Lama is just another head of a big power-structure control 'religious' org -- another of our spiritual celebs, like the Pope

in Doug Boyd's bio of Rolling Thunder, a bunch of folks were all in a pond or lake -- the mosquitos were swarming around everyone else's heads & biting them -- D Boyd saw that they were not biting R Thunder -- asked him 'how?' --

the answer was about some state of consciousness, kind of hanging out there w/the mosquitos

old saying : Actions speak louder than words....

wyn




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[huyi82]

no matter how much i try i can't help but kill those horrible bugs, i am disgusted and afraid of all bugs, on top of that the fact that flies feed on poo and then land on your food urgh :( wasps are the worse i run away from the sight of them, if there is one in my apartment i open the window and try to coax it out, i try to be patient and tell it to go away, spiders i get a cup and throw them outside even big ones, i am scared of them but i pick up courage and just show them the way, it's not easy though.

i don't know if anyone has seen the next karate kid when that girl is shunned by the buddha monks about her killing a fly and she later learns not to kill them, i love that scene.

[Debra]

There is this gifted woman in Florida. Her name is Catherine Ceci. She is an animal communicator. She talks to animals that humans are having problems with -- and her results are spot on. She asks them, what their story is. Here are a few examples:

http://1spirit.com/spiritofhorses/stories.html

Some like the Attention...

At a county horse show where I was giving "mini" sessions for the barrel racing horses, a small gelding with curious eyes pushed his way in front of the crowd! Concerned something was wrong, I asked him if he was okay. He communicated he was quite happy being a barrel racing horse and loved his owner, that he just wanted to make sure he got his turn to talk like all the other horses!

Likes...

Mimi, a terrier in Hong Kong was a little confused at first, then settled down and communicated "her story". ( Nov. 2000 issue of Canine World Magazine interview) She communicated her favorite food is eggs!

Missing a Friend

Blaze said "his story" was that he was missing a friend and specifically, a horse that was a paint. His owner said they use to have a paint horse there with Blaze. We talked about some ways to help Blaze feel more secure and troubleshooted some equipment being used with Blaze.

Subject of Tallahassee Democrat - March 98

Anonda is a cockatoo, a beautiful and eloquent bird. When I asked him what his "story" is... he communicated he had been "abandoned at birth." He also said he was "sick a lot." His owner, Debbie, said he had been hatched with the assistance of humans, and not his mother, and that Anonda has had a lot of health issues. This is a good example of how the Animals and Birds have such early memories affecting their lives in the present.

Likes and Dislikes

BB, an Arabian gelding that lives on the East coast of FL was a little hesitant to talk. Finally, he communicated that he had some feelings of resentment towards the children that were riding him. I asked his owner and she said that he had been giving rides to some children and did seem annoyed. A good natured soul, BB seemed to like being a horse (I was privileged to have him take me for a trail ride after our session!) but the unpredictable actions from the children were beginning to wear on his nerves. Also he communicated he was in need of his teeth to be checked - which his owners have done and the problem was resolved.

Painful Past...

Brandy looked good, athletic and strong. When I asked him, "What is your story?" He communicated that he had been "hit around the head with a whip by a trainer." He also communicated feelings of confusion about "being in this world" and what "humans want from me." By listening to his story, his owner was able to respond to his feelings. Like putting together a "puzzle" as I call it. We combined the information from the session with practical information to help Brandy heal from his painful past.

Likes and Dislikes...Lucky horse!

William, a beautiful bay, said "his story was that he did not like women! Lucky for him his owner is a wonderful man who loves him dearly!

[WhiteFeather]

Hello friends.

Today i had an enlightning experiance.
While i was in the kitchen with my mother she saw an aphid (tiny fly)
It was on the Basil herb we have on the window, she went to kill it and i stopped her.

Something came over me and i was able to explain my reasoning in a manner she understood and was quite touched by.

I explained to her that she was about to kill for the sake of killing, that in her act she was knowningly about to carry out a small but significant act, maybe not on the material world but inside her mind and soul.
That even though it may insignificant to her, its part of natures plan and the earth mother does not create without cause.
That she should take a look at the bigger picture, that small fly has a purpose and it harms her in no way, i said this:
"look around you, is this creature affecting your world in a negative way?"
"does it infringe on you, does it destroy anything"
She then looked puzzled but understood i then told her that to kill this creature that only lives for a few days if that, is a violation of nature, its purpose is taken.
It costs her more energy to kill it, than to let it do its thing then die natural.

What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?
Does that mean we should do it, or does it mean we should protect the world and our life.
We are all linked, when you kill the spider in the corner of the room you kill a creature of purpose.
When you kill a dady long legs you kill a creature who only lives a day,
These are things we need to consider, if you can refrain from killing an aphid, then the idea of killing a Rhino because it has a cool looking horn is the ultimate violation of nature in my eyes and the world we should love.

Just wanted to share this with you friends, coincidently after i expalined this i stood there in the kitchen after she went into another room and out of nowhere there was loud clear birdsong outside and it felt like the earth mother recognising i understood.

It felt amazing stay strong friends and please think about the little creatures who make our world beautifull beyond belief!!

SeanTimberwolf

You are entering the realm of One bro. And Kudos to you.

True Story: While painting at my friends house he spotted a mosquito on the wall i was rolling out. He said to me kill it quick. I grabbed it by its wing and released it outside. You had to see the reaction on his face. I became a vegetarian over 2 years ago. This has helped me in realizing we are all connected to everything.

[Fred Steeves]

What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?

Hiya Sean, outstanding post! You say you're "only" 25 years old? Wow, makes me shake my head at meself to think back on the main two things generally on my mind when I was 25... One of the two washttp://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/drink.gif(LOL)


I'm most happy to see the re-enforcements bringing up the rear my friend. You're opening heart is most needed around and about. Please proceed with what you came here to do.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[ThePythonicCow]

sprinkle cayenne pepper around where they come in & out
The key for me has always been finding where they come in and out. I just watch for a few days, tracing backwards their paths, until I find the entrance. Then I close the "door" -- seal the crack or whatever.

Of course, in some homes, this would not be practical, such as for example the 11 room century old farm house I lived in as a young child ... a thousand times too many "doors".

[UnrealDreams]

Sean, thank you for sharing this. You have turned the corner and there is no going back now. You are on the path to enlightenment. When you see a tiny little helpless bug as an equal, and just as worthy of life as any of us, something happens inside. It is the most beautiful thing in the world. It is Oneness defined.

I refuse to kill anything anymore, for killing is what I despise most of all in this world.

This reminds me of my soon to be father in law. He is a wise man, who was sitting at his workbench in his garage and I noticed a quite large wasp nest directly above him on the inside of the garage door(the door was rolled up). I said "there is a wasp nest above your head" and he replied. "Yes, I saw that. They won't bother you as long as you don't bother them." He continued what he was doing, and paid them no attention. He is connected to nature in a unique, beautiful way.

I believe fear is a big factor. Most people who kill bugs are afraid of these tiny little creatures. Normally sane people become killers because of this fear. Not that I blame them, they have been programmed to fear, and to kill, and the rampant use of pesticides make it "socially acceptable". But, just think of how insane it is to be afraid of a small bug.


Much love-

[Limor Wolf]

Good energies around here, can I come in and add my own wasp story? :-)

A couple of month after my wake up call (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13633-Our-x-factor)I found myself spending every waking minute near the internet digging for as much information as I could put my virtuall hands on. The extraterrestrials subject was hot on the menu at that time (and since) , it was a revelation and I kept reflecting on how the average person on the street would react when they find that there are 'others' quite more advanced than we... (surprsingly, I kept imagining such a scenario when I was a child and became vegetarian, I thought that it will be a good karma and learning experience. must confess, I still do..)

It was in the middle of a cold winter and I kept the windows shut for three days in a row, when I kept rolling the thought in my mind - "how would I feel if a craft was to land right now and start communicating with me.." It sounded quite o.k when I visioned it, but what if it happened for real?
within two short seconds, no time to say 'Robinson Crusoe' ... a HUGH wasp appeared from nowhere, from right behind the computure. we are most familiar with wasps here in the middle east, but that one was more like a beast... I never saw such a size... it had black and yellow stripes.

http://www.altnation.com/forums/attachments/television/70939d1210547782-doctor-who-spoilers-remainder-series-2.jpg


I could not help it, I stifled a scream and run out of the room. it took me a few seconds to get the message behind it. I wanted to know what it would feel like being face to face with something of the unknown.. back then, I recieved many of 'those' kind of examples, I felt ashamed of myself, went back into the room, gave thanks and appologised, I immediately felt love and respect towords this unexpected giant guest. I then found it disappeared.. it might be that it flew out of the window through the crack I managed to open right before escaping on my life, I don't know..

I find it very relieving to be in the company of like minded, I do not Kill, I walk cautiosly and mind my steps. when in a warm sunny day outside, I am asking 'whoever' to please not allow me to kill ants or other living beings by accident. Of course I do... but my head is mostly down instead of forward, I will probably kill a neighbor one day, due to not seeing them. ha

My best animal friend was a guinea-pig, but there's a limit to a confession one can make on such a public forum ;) , so , I will leave it at that

anyway, wonderful thread. Thank you Sean and everyone~

[wynderer]

2 Animal stories before i respond to Limor's post w/an off-topic thought

the first is one i read somewhere [True Story] : A man who lived in a cabin alone in a remote wilderness area heard something at his door during a cold blizzardy winter --when he opened it, a very old wolf was standing there --the wolf slowly limped into the cabin to the fireplace, where he sank to the floor -- he was dying, & did not want to die alone -- perhaps all his pack, his tribe, had been killed by those horrible humans who chase wolves w/helicopters until they are exhausted, & then shoot them -- the man sat w/him as he died

my other story is personal -- i was living in the hills & hollers of West Virginia -- someone had told me about a 'short cut' road to the nearest town -- it had obviously not been used for years, so i was driving slowly along, trying to protect the car's shocks

up ahead i saw an animal confidently trotting towards the car -- i thought he was a dog at first -- as he came closer, i saw that he was a fox, a silver fox

i stopped the car, & the fox came right up to my window [open] 7 looked happily at me

i said, 'You can't be doing this! Many other humans will try to shoot you on sight! You have to stay hidden from us at all times!'

the fox seemed to consider this, reading my eyes, & then turned & walked into the brush & woods at the side of the road & disappeared

[off-topic to Limor] -- Limor, the wasp you describe does not sound like a regular wasp to me -- some ETs assume 'insectoid' forms -- & your not being quite clear on when & how it went away/disappeared -- i have noticed that often w/my UFO sightings, i don't remember when they disappeared


Good energies around here, can I come in and add my own wasp story? :-)

A couple of month after my wake up call (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13633-Our-x-factor)I found myself spending every waking minute near the internet digging for as much information as I could put my virtuall hands on. The extraterrestrials subject was hot on the menu at that time (and since) , it was a revelation and I kept reflecting on how the average person on the street would react when they find that there are 'others' quite more advanced than we... (surprsingly, I kept imagining such a scenario when I was a child and became vegetarian, I thought that it will be a good karma and learning experience. must confess, I still do..)

It was in the middle of a cold winter and I kept the windows shut for three days in a row, when I kept rolling the thought in my mind - "how would I feel if a craft was to land right now and start communicating with me.." It sounded quite o.k when I visioned it, but what if it happened for real?
within two short seconds, no time to say 'Robinson Crusoe' ... a HUGH wasp appeared from nowhere, from right behind the computure. we are most familiar with wasps here in the middle east, but that one was more like a beast... I never saw such a size... it had black and yellow stripes.

http://www.altnation.com/forums/attachments/television/70939d1210547782-doctor-who-spoilers-remainder-series-2.jpg


I could not help it, I stifled a scream and run out of the room. it took me a few seconds to get the message behind it. I wanted to know what it would feel like being face to face with something of the unknown.. back then, I recieved many of 'those' kind of examples, I felt ashamed of myself, went back into the room, gave thanks and appologised, I immediately felt love and respect towords this unexpected giant guest. I then found it disappeared.. it might be that it flew out of the window through the crack I managed to open right before escaping on my life, I don't know..

I find it very relieving to be in the company of like minded, I do not Kill, I walk cautiosly and mind my steps. when in a warm sunny day outside, I am asking 'whoever' to please not allow me to kill ants or other living beings by accident. Of course I do... but my head is mostly down instead of forward, I will probably kill a neighbor one day, due to not seeing them. ha

My best animal friend was a guinea-pig, but there's a limit to a confession one can make on such a public forum ;) , so , I will leave it at that

anyway, wonderful thread. Thank you Sean and everyone~

[modwiz]

I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

Try putting some peppermint oil along their tracks. Room freshener and deterrent for the ants. Dilute it in alcohol and put into a small bottle with a sprayer. 5-10 drops per oz. of alcohol should be sufficient.

Your remorse is a good thing. It is killing without remorse that is what is truly soul deadening.

[wynderer]

Your remorse is a good thing. It is killing without remorse that is what is truly soul deadening.

this reminds me of the first USA Animal Rights March in D.C. in the early '90s -- Christopher Reeves was one of the speakers [before his accident] -- he stated that he believed that some 'experimentation' on Animals in labs were necessary -- he was booed from the stage

[modwiz]

Your remorse is a good thing. It is killing without remorse that is what is truly soul deadening.

this reminds me of the first USA Animal Rights March in D.C. in the early '90s -- Christopher Reeves was one of the speakers [before his accident] -- he stated that he believed that some 'experimentation' on Animals in labs were necessary -- he was booed from the stage

I would have booed him too. We do not have the right to torture animals so that we may somehow mitigate our karma.

As a quick tangent: 9eagle9 has horses fall on her with some relative frequency. For her it's another day with the horses.

This is a good thread as it nourishes our compassion as we discuss our fears that lie at much of the behavior behind mindless killing. Cleansing and nourishment are good partners in health.

[huyi82]

I believe fear is a big factor. Most people who kill bugs are afraid of these tiny little creatures. Normally sane people become killers because of this fear. Not that I blame them, they have been programmed to fear, and to kill, and the rampant use of pesticides make it "socially acceptable". But, just think of how insane it is to be afraid of a small bug.


Much love-

i try my best to overcome that fear, but becasue we have been programed to think it's normal to kill we do it without thought or remorse.

Zebra, thank you for the pet psychic stories, i always enjoy reading them :D

[wynderer]

i did not know that fear was behind all the killing of all kinds of Animals here-- i thought Humans were just cold-hearted

& fear is certainly not behind the 'factory-farming'

[Maia Gabrial]

Hope you don't mind my sharing an interesting story....

Several years back, my daughter went to deer camp with her husband and was taught all the rudiments of hunting and tracking deer. After sitting quietly in the bushes waiting for a deer or buck to come along, she got so frustrated that she spoke to "The Great Spirit" wanting to see one. Not more than a few minutes later, the biggest buck came out of nowhere. She said he had like 18 points. I guess that's huge. Anyway, she sat in awe of him as he seemed to pose for her. First showing one side of him and then turning to show the other side. When she finally came to her senses, she went for the rifle, but it had gone that quick. The thing is her request was to ONLY see one....

I love telling that story.... :becky:

[Fellow Aspirant]

I try to avoid killing bugs that find themselves inside my home - although I'm not too sure that carrying spiders outside so that they can be launched off the front porch is really much of an improvement for them.
I WILL put the soap/water mix to the aphids that infest my plants, though, cause they WILL kill my plants. There's just no way to remove the aphids. It's complicated.

That said, I would like to share with you a link to a wonderful little vid of what happened when a small pack of young cheetahs came across a young antelope. Those Brit cameramen/women are just the best! Here ya go, enjoy ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246886/Pictured-Three-cheetahs-spare-tiny-antelopes-life--play-instead.html

[conk]

I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

Try putting some peppermint oil along their tracks. Room freshener and deterrent for the ants. Dilute it in alcohol and put into a small bottle with a sprayer. 5-10 drops per oz. of alcohol should be sufficient.

Your remorse is a good thing. It is killing without remorse that is what is truly soul deadening.I will try the peppermint. The ants howled with laughter at my cayenne pepper attempt. They seemed to get excited by it and would run in circles around it. Others will dart back and forth across it. They were either mocking me or getting a thrill. This morning I found 1,000,000 (maybe a few less) of them in a sealed! honey jar. so upset, as this was Manaku honey from New Zealand. How do the little buggers get in there?!?!?

[wynderer]

or, if there's just a few of them, you could leave them alone & let them do their gathering work in peace