View Full Version : sharing my frustration about all these 'endless waiting' for REAL CHANGES to happen!
(*please forgive for my cussing words...it's just that I'm being VERY honest with my feelings & thoughts today when posting this!..*)
seriously, when will all of this start to REALLY HAPPEN?
damn....you don't know how I'm sooo f*cking tired of waiting SO damn long for the REAL, RADICAL CHANGES to happen!
this world is so f*cked-up, and I'm becoming such a misanthropy and can't relate to society anymore these days!..
I hate NOT the planet, but the real-world and its 'mundane, dry' , bloody money/profits-seeking vultures, and ignorant SOCIETY these days!...
when?...when?....when?...
is it real?...or not?
is it all real?...or just a bunch of invented 'creative' B.S/nonsense/wishful-thinking/fantasy?..
that's all there is in my mind these days...
Space_Ace
3rd May 2012, 08:33
95% of people believe "nothing" will happen in 2012, it will be just another regular year. We are awake and either believe or "know" that very positive change will occur very soon. Mass arrests have been delayed again to June, but we keep waiting and hoping! :)
Tarka the Duck
3rd May 2012, 09:02
I wonder....Is it possible to be "awake" and yet remain undecided-bordering-on-disbelief when considering the list of events that have been forecast :confused:
We are awake and either believe or "know" that very positive change will occur very soon
tenacity1
3rd May 2012, 09:11
I often wonder what the govt sprayed on folks to make them wait for something to happen rather than participating in change. It's as if all these scared little mice afraid to stick their necks out. No one here per se.. just a general observation about society as a whole. Television is the worst thing ever invented.it makes folks watchers not doers. Frankly as someone with serious challenges to affecting change in the physical realm, I am dedicated to at least hoping for positive change and doing what I can when I can.
Sunfeather
3rd May 2012, 09:12
To me that's a very understandable frustration, amplified by the Grand Trine of Sun, Mars and Pluto occurring yestreday (2nd May 2012). In my personal opinion (considering that opinions are akin to Gt Spirits fingernails, requiring regular trimming) the time for new age philosophising is long over and the requirement now is to actively be engaged in creating and delivering the solutions that our collective growth and healing have shown us, independently and regardless of any external authority. That as an awakening collective we move beyond telling each other how wonderfully awake we are and begin acting for the solutions that we see are viable and relevent, be it in education, energy, art, economy, culture, law, exopolitics..... It is up to us to create the change beyond demanding or waiting for it. Of course it remains important to keep an eye on the dysfunctions of the human collective, as understanding current reality is requisite to birthing any vision, however our actions now make the difference and the more we find the way of acting together the better. I have created a website specifically to this intent. It has only been on-line since March and I am shocked that in these early days of it, the most visits and engagement the site seems to receive is from the US Govt. (They must be concerned). The site is created to bring focus and awareness to the actions I am suggesting it is our responsibility to activate. I would so love to see engaged people contributing to the site and I will network promotion of the 'life positive' solutions posted there. Have a look and let me know what you think... the address is http://www.gfc.uk.net ~
tenacity1
3rd May 2012, 09:25
Sunfeather.. wonderful rational down to earth post. I too understand folks frustrations. What I don't understand is how we all got to this place of endless debate without action. I'd comment on the "awake " community here in my little "neck" of the woods(Asheville) but they are so insular only folks born into their group can understand their drift. We've allowed culture to divide us for too long. Doesn't matter what ones beliefs are, we are all on the same small planet and we have to find ways to get along . More than anything else..I am going to try and keep cynicism and negativity at bay. Visualizing peace and healing I am hoping this all transpires because if it does, I'll no longer have a physically disabled body and will be able to do far more than I am able to now. Who wouldn't hope for better days in my circumstances. Love to all
RMorgan
3rd May 2012, 13:35
Hey Niki,
I used to be frustrated about this as well, but I´m not anymore.
Looks like it´s part of the game.
Since the beginning of recorded human history, people are always waiting for something.
I´ve been part of this forum for some time now, and people are always waiting for something as well.
People wait for dates, prophecies, nibiru, mass arrests, etc...Then, when nothing happens, people don´t really care about changing their waiting objective to another thing and so on, forever and ever.
I guess this is part of human nature. Most of the time, people just prefer to keep waiting forever than to actually get up and do something.
By the strategic point of view, this is a damn good strategy!
"Give them something fantastic to wait for, and they will keep living in fantasy! They will never wake up for reality and do something", got it?
In my opinion, TPTB are the responsible for constantly feeding us with fantastic prophecies and fake hope, to distract us from the real deal. It´s been working very well so far.
Once people realize that nothing is coming to save us from ourselves, will be the day history will change for good.
Things are so messed up right now that, for some, the very concept of being "awaken" is exactly the opposite; to be dragged into a world of fantasy, false hope and self-indulgence.
Cheers,
Raf.
ljwheat
3rd May 2012, 15:36
Niki, IMHO, your frustration is very valid, and justified, its like being caught up in what everyone else is doing on the road, there moving fast sliding in and out of traffic, cutting each other off and passing on the frustrations caught in the fast pace of (me first mentality).
Or its like going to a block party down town, and all these venders show up selling there wares rapped around the main event. So many choices to pick from, all leading you away from the main event.
Looking for a program to how all the scheduled events of the show, names, and times and what order there to occur, in our society this is the norm and looked for, then all the scammers show up too and pedal their wares as well confuse sing the party even more . In other words what happens here on this forum a lot is the term OFF TOPIC staying focused on the end of this full turning the orbit of our solar system around the milky way. That orbit’s the central sun or core of our galaxy. We have come full circle once again and are back were we were 26,000 years ago and what took place back then sent us back into hunting and gathering for thousands of year’s and are just now getting back on our collective feet once again.
Its all history, and what evidence do we have to draw on from then? What remains after 26,000 years? Stay grounded and bring this knowledge forward, not theory’s, focus on facts, geological records, strata ice records, or recorded in stone.
Apparently this is what governments of the world are spending hundreds of trillions of dollar’s on and not talking to us about. Its what there not talking about we should be digging up not what vender wants to sell you that’s causing all the confusion,.
Unless you have a way to jump off this planet and stand on the side line to watch what happens when we reach the point on this rid that sent mankind back 25,999 years and 7 month then we will all find out what happens first hand anyone care to chisel a recording of it in stone that will last another 26,000 years to let the future civilization know what to expect? Or like the last time they said screw them let them find out for them selves our governments are not saying anything to them then either.
Like a roller coaster ride when they got to the end of the ride it ended in disaster, we are on the same roller coaster they were on, dose anyone know if the end of the ride was ever fixed? Any one check with maintenance?
The governments are doing just that, and throwing a lot of money at it, and there scared s---less, why else are they spending hundreds of trillions of you money at it? Looking for a fix or a place to hide? The one destination that’s not a production is the end of this ride around the milky way. IT’S A DESTINATION. Unless you jump ship. Good luck with that on a string budget, or fixed income they have set up for all of us, none need to know people.
Why do you think they keep killing, inventers, whistle blower’s, and prophets. Or people have to write fact under a title of fiction just to get it published. One good one is “the origins of men, Forbidden Archeology”
Critical thinking, needs critical facts, and staying on critical subject or just staying on topic,. Following all this other horse pucks, and scammers looking for a quick buck or a fanatic standing on the street corner the end is near Jesus saves.
Stay here and now, focused on the breath your going to take next, with eye’s wide open and enjoy the ride its almost done, is this not why you birthed on this planet at this time to do. “Too Observe “?
Enjoy the moment that’s all you have no matter what ride your on or into. Relax its OK.
John XXX :cool:
hectorlca
3rd May 2012, 15:57
I think we lose sight of all the things that are happening that are positive. We keep getting distracted by announcements, prophesies and wishful thinking.
2012? I don't buy it.
Why do we keep expecting a Tsunami when the slowly rising tide will have the same effect?
I understand we want things now, but if we don't see them happening, we shouldn't lose hope and get into the mindset that they will never happen.
The tide of consciousness is rising slowly but surely and it will wash the old away until only the new is left. Indeed this process of renewal is the unstoppable inertia of the wisdom that new humans bring into the earth.
Stop hoping, but don't be hopeless.
Stop living in the future, be here, now.
hector
ljwheat
3rd May 2012, 17:26
Here is a coast to coast interview of Michael Cremo, who co-authored forbidden Archeology, the origins of men. http://youtu.be/GUpKwmkJEqA we are billions of years old, and we’ve been threw this many times. Very interesting.
GUpKwmkJEqA
thanks for all the comments so far, I truly appreciate them!
but see, the thing is: is the "Change" just only happening in these recent 2012-ish times,
or that it has always happened along human's history, but it's just been somehow stressed, emphasized, and laser-focused more in this year? (even for the 'cheap, dirty, worldly' purpose of using this opportunity to sell 2012 books/literature/popularity stuff??..)
*had my shares of doubts & skepticism as usual, since I've been transformed into such a jaded, cynical person recently because of the current reality/world/society I'm in..*
Sunfeather
4th May 2012, 11:33
There is incredible focus of energy in these times on a vast scale. The precession of the equinox's (approx 26,000 yr cycle) forms a 'holy cross' in the relationship of earth axis/solar system plane and galactic plane, and the Mayan Great Round 5,125 yr cycle (one fifth of approx 26,000 yr cycle) completes this winter solstice, both feature the close alignment of Galactic center to winter solstice sun (3 degree conjunction that starts to move away after this winter solstice). The extent of speculation around these huge cycles have led to extensive fantasy, but when viewing change over long periods of time (even the last 30 yrs where galatic center alignment has been in effect, and will be for 30 yrs hence) change is happening very fast. A winter solstice is a time of greatest darkness, spring comes, but the emergence of new leaves is slow.. Change is accelerated these days and our ability to communicate is radically different now to what it was even 15 years ago.. Hold tight, keep your own intent for beauty and wonders can unfold. Our greatest challenge is to accept that a Universal perspective is different to our human perspective and currently we tend to want immediate results.
Unified Serenity
4th May 2012, 12:13
The pressure you are feeling for the massive need to have substantive change is all programmed. I have spoken of what I believe is happening in our world by the elites and they have done this throughout known history and I would wager it (The system and methods) go back a lot further than that. You use different things to organize people at different times based on how large the group is, how easy it is to manage, and what level of survival mode you are in at the time.
So, there was this big cataclysm and bam we are at start point zero year again. There may be some hold over people of the elite class left and they horde the "sacred" information which will give them extraordinary power as they help organize the new world to their liking. There is nothing left basically and we are scattered about eeking out subsistance living. Maybe there are aliens/foreigners and they visit some and help, but for the most part we are on our own and sadly we are pretty ignorant on how to rebuild. But. little by little small clans form and gather for security. Eventually a Chief is made and we get our first small government going, I mean really small like 10 people. It' builds little by little and then the little groups merge and build up.
Nature religions start because man is so close to nature it seems natural (haha) to focus on rain, sun, etc for survival and give it some spiritual significance. Eventually a pretty large group forms and there are many, I mean hundreds of different spiritual teachers and respected leaders, but it's a power struggle as always and so, wars start. The best way to get control is to consolidate and that is easiest without so many competing systems. So, we built it up, and we fight and it gets torn down, and a new system is presented by the one who won the fight and it gets built up. This is happening all over the world and real power brokers (Families) realize that to stay in power you have to control everything and the ultimate control so no one can challenge you is to control the whole world.
Each time new area is discovered, the power elites fight over it, build it up, tear down and consolidate. So now, we have full knowledge of the land of the earth, knowledge of the resources within the earth, and about 13 main families fighting to control it all. There is one main family at the very tip top, and they have a special relationship with one of those foreigners / aliens. They have a whole new systems to move us in and control us. Man is property to them. We are like cattle and they want to leverage our creative and productive ability all while having to do the most minimal things to keep us in our pen or zoo. When it's small groups then direct physical power is enough. Kill the upstart who challenges you and the rest get into line. But when there are a lot of people that gets harder to do, so you create different political means and give them the idea they are helping guide their future, but they really are not because you always control who is ultimately the figure head of the group through bribes and intimidation.
Well, the ultimate reality was that we need to be all one spirituality. They've gotten rid of thousands of spiritual systems throughout the ages via conquest and promoting an amalgimation of spiritual ideas under smaller and smaller "god heads". Now, they want it all under one New Age God and have done their best to tear down the one they had previously built up which was Christianity. This system worked well to combine lots of spiritual systems but it's too limiting and there are still a few hold out systems which must be absorbed, and any that refuse will be wiped out. So, as more and more people look for this new enviromental Goddess worship system and metaphysics they also tie it into the political system. There will not be a couple super rich nations but all will be on the same level, poor.
The people must be made dependent upon the government by promoting equality and oneness while they are taught about wasting resources and abusing the earth. So, we will all learn to worship the earth, stop using fossil fuels, and many other modern conveniences. We will have designated zones to live in and the other areas called "Green zones" will be for nature. They will be vast and no one can travel through them without permission which means you are stuck in your zone. Oh, there will be lots of entertainment and hype to encourage clean living and prizes awarded for those who set the best example.
It's all sort of like a huge modern zoo where the living space is vast enough the animals don't know they are in a prison /zoo. The hard part right now is we are not really there yet, and some of us see what's happening. We have watched our industry get destroyed. We have watched companies pollute the earth (it's intentional folks to brainwash people to hate big business and it's profitable so they did it), we have economic disaster and they are robbing the working class people blind so that now it's common to hate the upper class which is planned so no one can be upper class and we will all be miserable together. Destroy the environment, Destroy the economy, Destroy and destabilize social structure and keep us fighting and watch the crisis loom. They have a new zoo for us folks, but we have to want to leave the old one. It's taken them decades to change us from believing in ourselves to depending on someone else to save us.
All these events are planned. They launch trial "balloons" to see how ready we are. Depending on the push back they know where to tweak their efforts. They have to get us to just the right breaking point and then cause the massive chaos and crisis. Within six weeks approximately, we will be so desperate for order that the properly placed agents whispering in ears as they have always done will drive us like a herd of cattle to the target zone, and we will feel safe in our new zoo.
Don't worry!! The day u die will be quite an event! ....so something will happen :-)
christian
4th May 2012, 13:02
These days I often feel the urge to stand up, raise my fists and shout "humanity". Feels electric.
I feel an absolute confidence, not that something particular happens, but that humanity is gonna make it overall.
I feel the passion and enthusiasm of a race, that is in the process of awakening after a long time and that is eager to make use of its higher innate abilities.
Humanity!
Sidney
4th May 2012, 14:03
Hi Niki, You are not alone. I have gone through so many stages of awakening, waiting, hoping, being angry, being frustrated and pissed-off,depressed,withdrawn etc.etc.etc. The thing is, this is 2012, and it is not a normal year. I am 50 years old, and I have never seen weather behave the way it has been. Between the solar activity and the geo-engineering(chemtrailing), the climate is thoroughly F***ed UP. The ground didn't freeze this past winter, first time in my life this has happened. I have day-lilies in bloom (normally a July 4 occurrence. ) Things are happening, but the reality is that 90% or more of the population is eitherr still sleeping or to fearful to talk about it. It being everything we talk about here on PA. The weather is fake, the stars are fake, the news (mainstream) is fake, and the truth is, most of the people ON the news are fake, either clones, or hybrids, or alien, or controlled. We are living in a SCI-FI world, without the fiction part. I too keep waiting to see if there is any change locally, in my little neck of the woods. I have said it before, and I will say it again. It took centuries for this world to get this screwed up, the positive changes will take many years to occur. Especially the judicial system. Have you ever had to sue someone? even domestic courts takes FOREVER to get things done.
I think we all just have to find something in our daily lives that makes us happy, even if its only for an hour or 5 minutes, so that we can experience something positive every day, while being surrounded my corruption and crime.
Point is though, you are not alone in your frustrations. We are all in it with you. For what its worth you can take comfort in that.!:cantina::tea::grouphug:
Eagle Eye
4th May 2012, 15:04
The lessons I've learned this last two years 2011-2012 were the greatest lessons of all my life. Something big has already happend for me and I'm very satisfied of my new path. If you want a change than start searching inside you , not outside. I have said before I don't think will be mass ascension or dimensional shift because mass aren't even aware if that exists but individual shift will happen for sure ( not in a second but will happen).
Tenzin
4th May 2012, 16:44
Please don't wait...
Start working on getting prepared, if not spiritually, then mentally. Act.
If nothing happens, at least you have spent quality time working on something you won't regret when you draw your last human breath. :)
Peace of Mind
4th May 2012, 16:48
IMO, the issue is money. When you have little of it… you are more likely to be aware of the injustices in society. However, through my observations…when a person comes into enough money to sustain their own…they create a comfort bubble for themselves and will become very reluctant to venture outside of it…much less do anything to burst that little bubble.
I’ve seen/known people to be very vigilant and outgoing for humanity… but when someone offered them an undisclosed amount of cash…they fell back and watch the world fall around them. It’s sad because they don’t realize the world will eventually collapse on their bubble in due time. The money was just a way to hush them up until they are alone and vulnerable enough to be dealt with later.
We just need to stop becoming selfish people waiting for someone else to do our work. This will only keep you out of the game…you can’t affect the game if you’re not a player in the game. There really are no easy ways out of this…it’s can only be easy when we all decide to get involved. OWS and other demonstrators around the world can’t do this alone, but imagine how far ahead we will all be if we all joined in…
Waiting around and not knowing exactly what we’re waiting for will only get us what we have now…nothing. What else is there to be expected? We are just being con to stay inactive. The more we indulge in info that does absolutely nothing (other than create fear and disempowerment) we will remain in check. We are getting exactly what we deserve, nothing more nothing less.
Peace
Airwooz
4th May 2012, 18:00
HAHAHAHA!!!!~yeah I feel the same way, to be honestly after spending many energy and times on wating for the massive arrested, economy collapse, solar flares, starship descend, offcial disclosure, consciousness transform, man made earth quake, disastrous flood, planet X, false flag ET attack, possible Iran or North Korean nuclear war, and all that, I am totally out of my mind, I can't no longer stay calm, all those theories seems so convinced and overwhelming, but nothing major happens, iam starting to think that we are far away from the real transforming point. When you look back to the old time , people always thought that they were in a critical period where close to the end time. Maybe It's just all illusions.
Fredenit
4th May 2012, 19:45
Hello there,
The problem we have is knowing why we are here to begin with, what has brought us to this place we call home, though it is temporary, If I tell you that we come here pre-planned, with a special purpose that we agree to carry out, and in doing so we make advancements to the spirituality of Humanity.
Now, when we cross from our Ancient Home and through the vail of birth, we start life here with regards to our memory, with a clean sheet. Yet when we develop into young adults we start to get curious as to why we are here, this is a natural need to know, and it is what we should be doing, it is an instinct, it is planted into our subconscious inner self before our birth so that we can start to develop that thought /knowing by developing the faculty that is holding it, as the faculty develops we get insights as to why we came here, and slowly being guided to and through our purpose. But the normal response that we have, is been misguided into accepting, what we "believe" we are here for is to have a good time, live it up, develop a consumer must have mind set.
We are selling ourselves down the river by leaving undone those things that should be done, and in the mean time, Humanity is floundering when instead it should be getting valued direction. If we really care for the survival of Humanity in the Greater Community of the Universe, which is where we are heading, then we need to take a different approach with regards to our input.
If you want to learn how to find your purpose in this life then the solution is not that difficult, start practising the Steps to Knowledge, this highly acclaimed literature can be obtained free from here :- http://newmessage.org
Nedsiz
4th May 2012, 20:12
I'm personally looking forward to May 20th (the eclipse) and June 20th (summer solstice). I have a feeling something important will happen soon, perhaps on the two days. Follow your intuition! :p
EnergyGardener
4th May 2012, 20:24
Perhaps try to look at it this way: These are still the good ol' days.
When things happen, banks shut down, people panic, real information is released, and then we meet our ET families in that dimension—this part will be over. The homes and cars we still make us of will quickly become nostalgic, relics of museums of our darker past. Realize too that this forum and most electronic forms of communication will too soon pass.
So, while we revile the selfishness and greed of our past and short present—not to mention suffering, let's appreciate that few can read our minds, that we can close a door for privacy from other humans, for just a bit longer....
Chester
4th May 2012, 22:41
I wonder....Is it possible to be "awake" and yet remain undecided-bordering-on-disbelief when considering the list of events that have been forecast :confused
Yes it is possible
crosby
5th May 2012, 01:16
I wonder....Is it possible to be "awake" and yet remain undecided-bordering-on-disbelief when considering the list of events that have been forecast :confused
Yes it is possible
so it is possible? hmmmm! and i thought that i just wasn't awake yet.
regards, corson
Alex Laker
5th May 2012, 03:46
This is the lesson. It's up to you. You don't just get born, and '****' happens. What the '****' is the point in that?
apokalypse
5th May 2012, 03:55
yesterday i read news article on Australian Budget, they going to cuts on welfare and force parents go back to work so they can save $700 million in savings which make my blood Boiled..i just don't understand why these sheep still rejected the ideas and the things that we talked about so call on Conspiracy field...i went around different forums saw their comments just shock me how fall asleep they are. it seems these sheep forgot about Australia give IMF $7billion to save the economy.
i'm really frustration with these sheep they are so freaking brainwashed...at least why can't realise with current system is broken can't be fix anymore but need to replace, we see same problem every freaking year with Budget cuts-infrastructure -unemployment-economy crisis and these sheep still haven't figure that out what's the real issue are. the system isn't about quality of life of individual human being but for a group who hold the power.
today i come to realize is time to stop for anything to happen after saw this thread but do what we can to awake our fellow human by inform them what's really going on and come up with our own solution not TPTB solution.
Paranormal
5th May 2012, 06:08
I'm scared of the day "it" happens. I don't feel "ready" and I think I need more time to grow spiritually. Hopefully, I can in-part "be the change" myself that we're all waiting on.
IMO, the issue is money. When you have little of it… you are more likely to be aware of the injustices in society. However, through my observations…when a person comes into enough money to sustain their own…they create a comfort bubble for themselves and will become very reluctant to venture outside of it…much less do anything to burst that little bubble.
I’ve seen/known people to be very vigilant and outgoing for humanity… but when someone offered them an undisclosed amount of cash…they fell back and watch the world fall around them. It’s sad because they don’t realize the world will eventually collapse on their bubble in due time. The money was just a way to hush them up until they are alone and vulnerable enough to be dealt with later.
We just need to stop becoming selfish people waiting for someone else to do our work. This will only keep you out of the game…you can’t affect the game if you’re not a player in the game. There really are no easy ways out of this…it’s can only be easy when we all decide to get involved. OWS and other demonstrators around the world can’t do this alone, but imagine how far ahead we will all be if we all joined in…
Waiting around and not knowing exactly what we’re waiting for will only get us what we have now…nothing. What else is there to be expected? We are just being con to stay inactive. The more we indulge in info that does absolutely nothing (other than create fear and disempowerment) we will remain in check. We are getting exactly what we deserve, nothing more nothing less.
Peace
I am convinced REAL CHANGE will only happen when things happen to REALLY shake the worldwide money paradigm. Even if this means millions or billions losing their savings or money. Can humanity live with that prospect? NO they can't. Jesus asked the rich young man that same question two thousand years ago, and that rich young man could not answer him.
I am acquainted with one rich guy who just went and bought some new SUVs recently, even though he is well aware of the existence of the "Illuminati"....(he himself told me he knew what the pyramid behind the US dollar meant, among many other things). This guy is a multimillionaire and his excuse is he wants to start enjoying his life....because he was probably working too hard previously. :rolleyes:
I'm concerned that all this "Illuminati awareness" has been turned into some sort of entertainment fest. There are actually MANY people that are already secretly aware of the Illuminati, but the thing is, they don't do anything to oppose them.
The real change likely would be the release of new "hidden" technologies. If anyone wants to pin their hopes on anything, (and fight for).... it is this, and this alone. This is the only thing that can alter the current money matrix that is gripping the entire world from progressing.
If there is anything you all should be spreading, it is this knowledge, and the awareness that governments and business are busy suppressing it for their own ends.
If the numbers can build up to hundreds of millions, then I think it is plausible to imagine real change....for once.
Bollinger
5th May 2012, 07:38
I think that as we go through life our opinions and demeanours swing sometimes with great amplitude in different directions.
My current position on the “waiting for things to happen” theme is that it says more about the “waiter” than whatever change is being anticipated. Just go back in history and you will see that this age is no different from any other. People are always waiting for things to change for the better and always the culprit is some external force wielded by powerful entities having a field day at our expense. We accuse them of all sorts of calumny because we know such people do exist but that doesn’t necessarily prove that they are doing what we think they are doing.
There is no need to get frustrated or become agitated because things aren’t happening fast enough. Even if you go back just a few years, we had similar predictions of mass arrests or whatever other Shangri-La was being promised by various factions in the alternative community and they never actually materialised. The next big prediction in the calendar is the end of 2012. But there have been many such events that have come and gone and we’ve seen people backtrack or find all sorts of excuses for their predictions not coming true. Don’t you think there is a pattern here?
Why can it not simply be the case that this is how it is? It might get better or it might not? We are very volatile and unpredictable creatures. We are selfish and compassionate all at the same time. One day we can be loving and kind but the next we can be callous. To assume that “this is wrong” is like saying the sun is too hot or too cold. In other words, we all have our own barometers with which to measure and judge what we see and experience. Why should we expect to record the same readings?
Now I’m not going to sit here and accuse anyone of impropriety but it does certainly look as though not all folks in the alternative community are in it to “save or inform the world”. Some are there to sensationalise or draw attention to themselves by burying us in masses of regurgitated detail which on the surface looks credible until whatever prediction or meaning is sold to us passes its sell-by date. Then we go on to the next thing and of course this brings frustration to those who put too much faith in it.
As in the famous song; what will be, will be. If tomorrow a 300 foot wall of water surges towards our homes and the end is mere seconds away, does it any of it really matter? No. But since no such sign of it happening exists in the real world, what use is it worrying about it? Just relax and enjoy what little pleasure this world affords us and try and contain the disproportionate amount of pain that must flow before our time is up. I find that asking why or when is very natural but at the same time, very futile because it has been proven to us too many times that nobody actually knows. It’s one of the many anomalies of life.
apokalypse
5th May 2012, 08:28
talk about change but who going to change and what we waiting for? we waiting on et/ed to save us or so call some group like White Hats to save humanity? how about one of Drake groups save human? time and time again human have suffer from this crap with the save when they playing Problem-Reaction-Solution Game...Human on earth need to wake up and take responsibility.
ljwheat
5th May 2012, 13:07
This particular song came to mind, as I’m sitting here in my tin can, floating fare above my EGO, wondering if anyone can here me as I feel this world floating, floating, away yyya‘. As the photon belt is starting to change me in a very particular wayyyya’
EGO to Maj Tom, EGO, to Maj Tom the circuits are dead, can you hear me Maj Tom, fare , fare above this physical tin can.
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You are the tin can, no one is in there with you, floating above the world. and the world is still blue. as the EGO (ground control) wants to maintain its control.
John XXX :cool:
I think that as we go through life our opinions and demeanours swing sometimes with great amplitude in different directions.
My current position on the “waiting for things to happen” theme is that it says more about the “waiter” than whatever change is being anticipated. Just go back in history and you will see that this age is no different from any other. People are always waiting for things to change for the better and always the culprit is some external force wielded by powerful entities having a field day at our expense. We accuse them of all sorts of calumny because we know such people do exist but that doesn’t necessarily prove that they are doing what we think they are doing.
There is no need to get frustrated or become agitated because things aren’t happening fast enough. Even if you go back just a few years, we had similar predictions of mass arrests or whatever other Shangri-La was being promised by various factions in the alternative community and they never actually materialised. The next big prediction in the calendar is the end of 2012. But there have been many such events that have come and gone and we’ve seen people backtrack or find all sorts of excuses for their predictions not coming true. Don’t you think there is a pattern here?
Why can it not simply be the case that this is how it is? It might get better or it might not? We are very volatile and unpredictable creatures. We are selfish and compassionate all at the same time. One day we can be loving and kind but the next we can be callous. To assume that “this is wrong” is like saying the sun is too hot or too cold. In other words, we all have our own barometers with which to measure and judge what we see and experience. Why should we expect to record the same readings?
Now I’m not going to sit here and accuse anyone of impropriety but it does certainly look as though not all folks in the alternative community are in it to “save or inform the world”. Some are there to sensationalise or draw attention to themselves by burying us in masses of regurgitated detail which on the surface looks credible until whatever prediction or meaning is sold to us passes its sell-by date. Then we go on to the next thing and of course this brings frustration to those who put too much faith in it.
As in the famous song; what will be, will be. If tomorrow a 300 foot wall of water surges towards our homes and the end is mere seconds away, does it any of it really matter? No. But since no such sign of it happening exists in the real world, what use is it worrying about it? Just relax and enjoy what little pleasure this world affords us and try and contain the disproportionate amount of pain that must flow before our time is up. I find that asking why or when is very natural but at the same time, very futile because it has been proven to us too many times that nobody actually knows. It’s one of the many anomalies of life.
the thing is,
sometimes I feel that human's Imaginations' world/universe is much much more interesting than this mundane, dull, "Law-and-Order" like, all-about-money/profits real world we're living in.
there is no denying that after knowing about all these spiritual, 'Truth'-seeking, and 'other-worldly' things often mentioned in this great PA forum,
I (& I'm sure many others here) have felt that this so-called "3D reality" we're living in (if it's indeed any true and not some made-up cunning B.S/nonsense as usual..) has become sooo dull, bland, and I even lack any interest nor motivation of "Success" whatsoever in this '3D reality/real-world'!
there is no denying that there are hundreds and thousands of Arts, sci-fi, games, movies, drawings/paintings out there that are FAR much more interesting than this current 'reality/real-world' we're living in, often with all its suits and ties and bags of cash and money and business papers... seriously,...and you're here saying that I (we) all should just be 'que sera sera' and "ENJOY our lives" in this kind of mundane real world??... no, I for one will honestly admit that I can't stand it any longer!
Even my own personal quest for Truth and the 'deeper things' have led me to eventually come into a conclusion that:
SO damn great is human's world/universe of Imaginations, that not even 'god' can make our rich, sometimes even super-vivid & imagery & fantasy Imaginations conform to Him/It !..
that even if let's say all these 2012 and Mayan calendar, mass arrest, Disclosure, Higher shift of Dimensions, etc, is turning to be just a bunch of 'dirty' human's made-up hoaxes and B.S ,
then at the very least I'll take quite a calming consolation, that soon or later, someday in the future, we will surely have the KEY (ie: technology, etc) to unlock our imaginations, heck, even to make us LIVE inside our lush, vivid human's Imaginations,...and thus creating our own 'Matrix' (or universe) , so to speak!
I'm just basically f*cking tired and hate living in this 'real-world' anymore... everything (except for some few still nice things like Arts, Science progress, philosophy, Nature wonders, good humans/people, etc) just already become so dull, bland, dry, mundane, boring, nothing interest me much, everything just seems do damn LIMITED! ....and these all make me feel like I'm an alien and my home is not of this world... I truly just honestly feel like I don't belong here, anymore!
UnrealDreams
6th May 2012, 12:33
Hi Niki, I understand your frustration. I would like to suggest that you take control over your own life right now. Do not worry about what the Elite are doing. Do not worry about "mass arrests". YOU are the change you are seeking. YOU are the source of fulfillment in your life. You have all the tools to make your life content and happy without any outside interference.
A great method of minimizing your frustration over these events is to have very low expectations of others, and very high expectations for yourself.
I hope this helps-
Peace and love,
Jeff
Rogerc
6th May 2012, 13:13
I think it started with Revelations in the bible - keep 'em worried they're easier to control.
'It's clouds illusions I recall, I really don't know clouds at all........"
HAHAHAHA!!!!~yeah I feel the same way, to be honestly after spending many energy and times on wating for the massive arrested, economy collapse, solar flares, starship descend, offcial disclosure, consciousness transform, man made earth quake, disastrous flood, planet X, false flag ET attack, possible Iran or North Korean nuclear war, and all that, I am totally out of my mind, I can't no longer stay calm, all those theories seems so convinced and overwhelming, but nothing major happens, iam starting to think that we are far away from the real transforming point. When you look back to the old time , people always thought that they were in a critical period where close to the end time. Maybe It's just all illusions.
Even my body feels alien to me anymore
human activity leaves me uninterested, confuses me at best,
including art, science and ideology of any kind
and the mundane part is almost unbearable, i don't even want to eat anymore.
Worse is when somebody prompts to live life, take control, be the best you can
and all those sort of all is well kind of attitude
when every morning i wake up and see the day light i feel blind and i don't know how
i end up here in this dark place seeking that narrow corridor back home
but can't find it anywhere.
Rogerc
6th May 2012, 23:02
Even my body feels alien to me anymore
human activity leaves me uninterested, confuses me at best,
including art, science and ideology of any kind
and the mundane part is almost unbearable, i don't even want to eat anymore.
Worse is when somebody prompts to live life, take control, be the best you can
and all those sort of all is well kind of attitude
when every morning i wake up and see the day light i feel blind and i don't know how
i end up here in this dark place seeking that narrow corridor back home
but can't find it anywhere.
Wow you're in a dark place friend.
I don't know whether this will help. but it's my experience anyway.
I came to the conclusion that I am a part of this universe, inseparable and wholly.
For whatever reason I am here.
I look around me every day and see creation around me and embrace it as a part of me. My atoms came from the same source as a bird, a tree and everything. I will die and become a part of the whole again.
For some reason I or have been put here in this form for a mere instant in the scheme of things.
This leads me to believe that human activity is merely a play and regardless of doomsayers or varying philosophies all is well.
As the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius said on his deathbed, " Who am I to complain of having one part in a three act play - just to have been is suffice - life is just life's longing for life itself".
That thought makes it easier for me to remain relatively safe in this place.
cheers and love rogerc
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