Oh really? Mass arrests? Mass bank flops? A thread for evidence / proof

[OnyxKnight]

The title is clear.

I have not seen evidence of this other than from the mouths of B.Fullford and David Wilcock, that guarantee that this is what's happening.

I checked that about the banks, and its not how they say they are, so feel free to show me otherwise. I'm counting on you - those who support them - you know who you are, you are present in every thread about them.

This is a thread where you can verify these claims, and if you want - ALL of the claims these two guys make. Or refute / debunk them. Whatever you like.

I'm sure others are sick and tired of verbal reassurance, and need something to confirm what they read. And I for one, have been reading David Wilcock long enough that I finally am asking the naughty questions.

Go ahead, make them proud! Or me proud! :)

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

From now on, my only reply to such kind of threads will be this one:

These guys have been around for years, making various bold claims and promises. Show me a single claim or promise made by them, that actually happened, and I´ll believe them.

Just one, with enough evidence to prove it.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

The title is clear.

I have not seen evidence of this other than from the mouths of B.Fullford and David Wilcock, that guarantee that this is what's happening.

I checked that about the banks, and its not how they say they are, so feel free to show me otherwise. I'm counting on you - those who support them - you know who you are, you are present in every thread about them.

This is a thread where you can verify these claims, and if you want - ALL of the claims these two guys make. Or refute / debunk them. Whatever you like.

I'm sure others are sick and tired of verbal reassurance, and need something to confirm what they read. And I for one, have been reading David Wilcock long enough that I finally am asking the naughty questions.

Go ahead, make them proud! Or me proud! :)

How dare you demand evidence ! ? You are so NEGATIVE! Haters gonna hate!

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/wink-happy-16.jpg

[Operator]

Well I am skeptical about this too. What surprised me though is the fact that apparently the USA
recognizes the ICC in the Hague again (as signed for by Obama).

That is at least one step in the right direction ... (although I have my doubts about ICC too).

[Operator]

Could it be that to relieve the pressure mentioned in this thread DHS Informant: ‘We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War’ (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44716-DHS-Informant---We-Are-Preparing-For-Massive-Civil-War--) some steps on hope are drip-wise released ?

[pilotsimone]

I'm sure others are sick and tired of verbal reassurance, and need something to confirm what they read.

No amount of reassurance or confirmation is going to make any of us feel in control of this situation we find ourselves in right now.

Hanging on the words of any of these researchers (like they matter)...trying to prove their 'rightness' or 'wrongness'...is why you see so much suffering and hand-wringing here at PA.

Wilock, Fulford, Drake...they are servants, not leaders. My suggestion would be to stop giving them so much of your power. It'll drive you crazy.

If the arrests happen, they happen. If they don't, they don't. I see no good reason to be dependent on this happening or not happening.

[sirdipswitch]

You are right on the money in my book. I could not complete listening to the interveiws they did with Kerry and Bill. I went to Devine Cosmos, and couldn't get through much of that either. It all just made me wonder what these guys are smokin. Same with Drake and his fiasco too.

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[Arpheus]

I'm sure others are sick and tired of verbal reassurance, and need something to confirm what they read.

No amount of reassurance or confirmation is going to make any of us feel in control of this situation we find ourselves in right now.

Hanging on the words of any of these researchers (like they matter)...trying to prove their 'rightness' or 'wrongness'...is why you see so much suffering and hand-wringing here at PA.

Wilock, Fulford, Drake...they are servants, not leaders. My suggestion would be to stop giving them so much of your power. It'll drive you crazy.

If the arrests happen, they happen. If they don't, they don't. I see no good reason to be dependent on this happening or not happening.

Couldnt agree with you more,its all smoke and mirrors folks,we cant fight the fire while feeding the flame its not productive at all and thats not how nature works.

[Hervé]

Me think that if Charles/Atticus/Stephen had copyrighted/patented/trademarked his recipe for untasteable/untestable pudding... he wooda be' in clover by now!

[foreverfan]

Oh yea... some people in the Military may disagree with you. :usa2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0QY1ZJFC4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zWRiNRWjnQ

[Hervé]

Well I am skeptical about this too. What surprised me though is the fact that apparently the USA
recognizes the ICC in the Hague again (as signed for by Obama).

That is at least one step in the right direction ... (although I have my doubts about ICC too).

Worth repeating here as well:

As I posted on another thread:

From good ole' Doc John Coleman in his "Committee of 300 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_committee300.htm#menu)" book:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png We are close to the point where the United States will send its military Forces to settle any and all disputes brought before the United Nations. Departing Secretary General Perez de Cuellar, heavily laden with bribe money, was the most compliant U.N. leader in history in granting demands of the United States without discussion. His successor will be even more inclined to go along with whatever the U.S. government places before him. This is an important step along the road to a One World Government.

The International Court of Justice at The Hague will be used in increasing measure in the next two years to settle legal arguments of all types.

It is of course the prototype for a One World Government legal system that will supplant all others. As for central banks, essential in the planning of the New World Order, this is already very much a fait-accompli with the Bank of International Settlements dominating the scene at the close of 1991. Private banks are fast disappearing in preparation for the Big Ten banks that will control banking the world over under the guidance of BIS and the IMF. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

[9eagle9]

People in the US should stop joining the military and stop re-enlisting. In 4 to 6 years time what will the US have to invade anyone with? Granted there's auto-military and machinated soldiers but the point is.....

[Operator]

From good ole' Doc John Coleman in his "Committee of 300 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_committee300.htm#menu)" book:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png We are close to the point where the United States will send its military Forces to settle any and all disputes brought before the United Nations. Departing Secretary General Perez de Cuellar, heavily laden with bribe money, was the most compliant U.N. leader in history in granting demands of the United States without discussion. His successor will be even more inclined to go along with whatever the U.S. government places before him. This is an important step along the road to a One World Government.

The International Court of Justice at The Hague will be used in increasing measure in the next two years to settle legal arguments of all types.

It is of course the prototype for a One World Government legal system that will supplant all others. As for central banks, essential in the planning of the New World Order, this is already very much a fait-accompli with the Bank of International Settlements dominating the scene at the close of 1991. Private banks are fast disappearing in preparation for the Big Ten banks that will control banking the world over under the guidance of BIS and the IMF. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png



Just what I thought ...

This book is still on my reading list.

What I am wondering though is "Secretary General Perez de Cuellar" ended his term as Secretery General on 31 December 1991.
Since "His successor" is not mentioned by name ... how old is this book actually ?

I ask this in particular to find out when this "in the next two years" would be ...

It looks like my feeling could be right and that the ICC is becoming more and more like a puppet show only to uphold an
international public image of justice.

[Hervé]

[...]

Just what I thought ...

This book is still on my reading list.

What I am wondering though is "Secretary General Perez de Cuellar" ended his term as Secretery General on 31 December 1991.
Since "His successor" is not mentioned by name ... how old is this book actually ?

I ask this in particular to find out when this "in the next two years" would be ...

It looks like my feeling could be right and that the ICC is becoming more and more like a puppet show only to uphold an
international public image of justice.

It's been published in 1991... shows that the the cabal is behind schedule on a number of events. So, now, they are in a hurry and therefore bound to make mistakes since the Fed Reserve contract expires in 2013.

[Operator]

It's been published in 1991... shows that the the cabal is behind schedule on a number of events. So, now, they are in a hurry and therefore bound to make mistakes since the Fed Reserve contract expires in 2013.

Aha !! thanks. I have similar thoughts here.
I am not so much afraid of the cabal being successful ... I am more afraid that one of their mistakes might hurt a lot of people ... ;)

[kreagle]

Hey mate,

From now on, my only reply to such kind of threads will be this one:

These guys have been around for years, making various bold claims and promises. Show me a single claim or promise made by them, that actually happened, and I´ll believe them.

Just one, with enough evidence to prove it.

Cheers,

Raf.

RMorgan,

I'm surprised that "anyone" pays any attention to these characters. With a "track record" that they've accumulated I would think that an intelligent person would know better.

And my advice to everyone else is to certainly not wait for one of them to get "lucky" and "slip up" and get something right, for a change, ......and....."then" to proclaim them to be great soothsayers, etc.

(point)

Even a "broken clock" is right,....."twice each day"!!

[Cognitive Dissident]

How about we only post known facts on this thread?
There is no Fed "contract" and it will not expire in 2013! Please...
As I posted elsewhere, this ICC stuff is nonsense too.
Did the US rejoin the ICC or not?
The only source I can find is Veterans Today.
This would be all over the MSM if true.
But it isn't, so probably false.

[Hervé]

How about we only post known facts on this thread?
There is no Fed "contract" and it will not expire in 2013! Please...
[...]

All right, then, what's your "known facts," credible source, etc... on that one?

[Hervé]

How about we only post known facts on this thread?
There is no Fed "contract" and it will not expire in 2013! Please...
[...]

All right, then, what's your "known facts," credible source, etc... on that one?

All right, I'll help you... your answer is here: http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21/the-federal-reserves-non-existent-99-year-charter-set-to-expire-in-2012/



According to Section 4, part 2 of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913, it says of each of the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks:
“To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.“
Since the Federal Reserve Board’s site (http://federalreserve.gov/) shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, their 20-year charter must have been extended.
A 20-year charter was also granted to the First and Second Banks of the United States, and both had their charter terminated. Yes, there was a time when privately owned central banks had time-limited charters, and for good reason, due to the havoc they caused.
12 U.S.C. § 341 : US Code – Section 341 (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/12/3/IX/341): General enumeration of powers shows:
“Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.“
Again, since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, this provision was either changed with some other time limit, or was never changed.
In fact, it was never changed, and, therefore, their charter doesn’t expire in 2012, and there was never a 99-year charter for the Federal Reserve.

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Therefore the strategy of going after the 12 banks simultaneously since Congress won't lift a finger or an eyebrow....

[Eagle Eye]

I would like to see some reptilian in jail LOL

[Straker]

I have to admit, I haven't seen any evidence of mass arrests of any secret banking cabal, just a truck load of resignations.

However I will give it the benefit of the doubt and hope there is some truth to it.

What is certain however, is that you cannot fix a liquidity problem with more debt, so sooner or later, depending upon how big the money printing balloon is going to get before it pops, will determine the size of the implosion of all of our standards of living as we know them.

Straker

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

From now on, my only reply to such kind of threads will be this one:

These guys have been around for years, making various bold claims and promises. Show me a single claim or promise made by them, that actually happened, and I´ll believe them.

Just one, with enough evidence to prove it.

Cheers,

Raf.

RMorgan,

I'm surprised that "anyone" pays any attention to these characters. With a "track record" that they've accumulated I would think that an intelligent person would know better.

And my advice to everyone else is to certainly not wait for one of them to get "lucky" and "slip up" and get something right, for a change, ......and....."then" to proclaim them to be great soothsayers, etc.

(point)

Even a "broken clock" is right,....."twice each day"!!

Hey mate,

Exactly!

Some people here are new to this game, and don´t remember that, much before this online mass arrests story, these folks were claiming MANY other big things that NEVER came to happen. If you´re new to this thing, research ELENIN here, just to have a glimpse.

Some others are old to this thing, but seem to have fish like memory, and instantly forget their broken promises and claims at the moment they make a new, and even more fantastic claim!

If broken promises was a crime, these folks would be in jail for life.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Butangeld]

I too prefer evidence to promises. I have been reluctant to speak of this plot widely.
Today I found this though: "Geithner arrested 116 major bank resignations..."
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=18729
It is at least some evidence.

[Rantaak]

You are right on the money in my book. I could not complete listening to the interveiws they did with Kerry and Bill. I went to Devine Cosmos, and couldn't get through much of that either. It all just made me wonder what these guys are smokin. Same with Drake and his fiasco too.

love and peace
sirdipswitch

They are smoking tryptamines.

[peace]

dates will come and go ... no arrests.

wilcock, et al., will say "we were saved at the last minute, you heard it here first"

the "mountains" of documents will never appear

the threats against pc/pa and pending lawsuits won't happen (didn't know you could be sued for opinion).

just another charles/serpo/ etc., etc.

sorry: i know the OP is about evidence, proof, this is just a prediction. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43911-A-prediction-about-Wilcock

[9eagle9]

While I'm dubious about the mass arrests the banks failing is not far off. We see it already or at least there's evidence of that. The rest of it....

(snort)

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I didn't get the grist from the rumor mill about suing PA and PC, anyone care to elaborate?

[peace]

While I'm dubious about the mass arrests the banks failing is not far off. We see it already or at least there's evidence of that. The rest of it....

(snort)

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I didn't get the grist from the rumor mill about suing PA and PC, anyone care to elaborate?

i'll take a stab: apparently drake and ms. cassidy got into it as he threatened to sue pc over comments made there when really he was upset over a thread HERE. she swatted the fly away, insisting in a kind of "go right ahead" fashion that trying to sue people on an internet forum is fairly silly. it's in one of the longer 'drake' threads here.

[9eagle9]

The more Drake the Dragon lets his dragonfly down in public the more inclined I am to know he's not a dragon blood at all.

[peace]

i could be wrong but it might've been because of this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44252-Who-is-DRAKE-The-Loyal-Order-of-the-Royal-Dragon

[Arrowwind]

I too prefer evidence to promises. I have been reluctant to speak of this plot widely.
Today I found this though: "Geithner arrested 116 major bank resignations..."
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=18729
It is at least some evidence.

this video is not proof that Geithner was arrested. It proves nothing except suspicion... and theres plenty of that to go around.
Wilcox has not been right about one dam thing as far as I can see... but he's really good at mounting a sense of dire urgency to sell his books... Its no wonder those folks at Virginia Beach threw him out on his can... and then when what ever he was predicting does not happen he writes it off as a change in circumstance or that things were fixed for us.

If he really wanted to spend time talking about issues that will afford people a true heads up he would focus every living breath on Fukashima.

Wilcox is pure BS.

[Black Panther]

I'm going to a presentation of David Wilcock friday
and saturday I have a workshop too. I'll look him
right in the eyes and ask him about the mass arrests ;)

No one can fool me :cool:


My suggestion would be to stop giving them so much of your power. It'll drive you crazy.

If the arrests happen, they happen. If they don't, they don't.
I see no good reason to be dependent on this happening or not happening.

I haven't much looked into the whole Drake story. I agree with pilotsimone.
I don't like predictions, for example "the end of the world predictions",
"predictions of UFO landings all over the world" or "predictions of the mass
arrests" as in this case. Don't say it's all bullock, but I like to live in
the now. What will happen will happen. It's a shame those predictions
rule our lives, because we will feel bad if nothing happens.

[sdv]

If he really wanted to spend time talking about issues that will afford people a true heads up he would focus every living breath on Fukashima.

Am still trying to get my head around the Fukashima issue, and would really appreciate determined 'kicks in the pants' from you, often!

[Butangeld]

I too prefer evidence to promises. I have been reluctant to speak of this plot widely.
Today I found this though: "Geithner arrested 116 major bank resignations..."
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=18729
It is at least some evidence.

this video is not proof that Geithner was arrested. It proves nothing except suspicion... and theres plenty of that to go around.
Wilcox has not been right about one dam thing as far as I can see... but he's really good at mounting a sense of dire urgency to sell his books... Its no wonder those folks at Virginia Beach threw him out on his can... and then when what ever he was predicting does not happen he writes it off as a change in circumstance or that things were fixed for us.

If he really wanted to spend time talking about issues that will afford people a true heads up he would focus every living breath on Fukashima.

Wilcox is pure BS.

True, that clip is from Fox News, and they don't have an ongoing relationship with the truth. It is still interesting though that they'd make up such a story as this one though, given the topic in this thread.

I'm not about to run away with the idea that our blond haired friend, with the really quite bad guitar playing, has got it all worked out, but I do take all at face value to begin with. For me, I don't enjoy too much suspicion in my world. Rather keep it simple. I enjoyed his book the Source Field, found lots of unexpected eastern bloc science, plenty to further research. I don't think he is a total *&&% - make your own label here - he does work hard and so by default I will always respect that.

Maybe he is just trying to sell books. Maybe they all are. Maybe I should ask myself why I like reading these kinds of books. I won't believe that Dave is reporting a world changing event until actual events are occurring, but he's got me hooked right now.

[Unified Serenity]

I'm going to a presentation of David Wilcock friday
and saturday I have a workshop too. I'll look him
right in the eyes and ask him about the mass arrests ;)

No one can fool me :cool:


I understand what you mean about looking someone in the eye and knowing if they are lying to you. The only problem is if they believe the lie is true, then they read as true! Anyone can beat a lie detector machine if they know how to make their brain believe what comes out of their mouth. It's the trait of a sociopath imho.

When I studied criminology and specifically sociopaths we discussed how hard they are to detect. Yes, I am raising the suspicion that DW is a sociopath. There are certain characteristics that have to be met to be a sociopath. For instance, all sociopaths are pathological liars, but not all patholigical liars are sociopaths. They are narcisistic, but not narcissists are sociopaths. They can never admit blame or take responsibility when caught. They are perfect chameleons. In fact, you could have the worlds 10 most renowned psychiatrists in a room with 10 people and tell them one of the ten is a sociopath. After four hours the 10 psychiatrists would not identify him. They are just that good at hiding themselves. It takes discernment and a lot of time watching them, reading what they say, hearing them speak to identify characteritics. Sadly, most sociopaths are set by the age of 4, and there is no known "cure". They have delusions of grandeur, they are charismatic, and highly intelligent. Not all sociopaths are evil in the sense of a Ted Bundy. I happen to think some of our best leaders have possibly been sociopaths, but just don't cross them. They are very self serving, driven, and don't take challenges to their reputation well.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I'm going to a presentation of David Wilcock friday
and saturday I have a workshop too. I'll look him
right in the eyes and ask him about the mass arrests ;)

No one can fool me :cool:


I understand what you mean about looking someone in the eye and knowing if they are lying to you. The only problem is if they believe the lie is true, then they read as true! Anyone can beat a lie detector machine if they know how to make their brain believe what comes out of their mouth. It's the trait of a sociopath imho.

I am certain that DW believes what he is saying. I see no evidence of sociopathic behavior.

I think we are getting carried away here.

[Arrowwind]

I'm going to a presentation of David Wilcock friday
and saturday I have a workshop too. I'll look him
right in the eyes and ask him about the mass arrests ;)

No one can fool me :cool:


I understand what you mean about looking someone in the eye and knowing if they are lying to you. The only problem is if they believe the lie is true, then they read as true! Anyone can beat a lie detector machine if they know how to make their brain believe what comes out of their mouth. It's the trait of a sociopath imho.

I am certain that DW believes what he is saying. I see no evidence of sociopathic behavior.

I think we are getting carried away here.

Yes, perhaps he truly is delusional.

[NewFounderHome]

Well we still don't seem to see any real proof up front.
No bla bla, book selling, money story or rating on a website.
No real proof. There is a lot of talk. Are all these stories to win time or keeping us busy running in round or some other purpose.
A lot's of date's and times have been told and did pas by with no results.
Well this will give some good reading, new stories to come.

Peace and love to you all.

[seigiarchon]

dates will come and go ... no arrests.

wilcock, et al., will say "we were saved at the last minute, you heard it here first"

the "mountains" of documents will never appear

the threats against pc/pa and pending lawsuits won't happen (didn't know you could be sued for opinion).

just another charles/serpo/ etc., etc.

sorry: i know the OP is about evidence, proof, this is just a prediction. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43911-A-prediction-about-Wilcock

reminds me of the blossom goodchild thingy a few years back.. :pound:

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I'm going to a presentation of David Wilcock friday
and saturday I have a workshop too. I'll look him
right in the eyes and ask him about the mass arrests ;)

No one can fool me :cool:


I understand what you mean about looking someone in the eye and knowing if they are lying to you. The only problem is if they believe the lie is true, then they read as true! Anyone can beat a lie detector machine if they know how to make their brain believe what comes out of their mouth. It's the trait of a sociopath imho.

I am certain that DW believes what he is saying. I see no evidence of sociopathic behavior.

I think we are getting carried away here.

Wilcock has changed.. in more ways than one.. in more things than one..

[peace]

having a fancy degree ;) and some years of clinical experience and i think it's unfair to say sociopath. i have never met the man, but i do feel it's unfair. just meeting the man wouldn't prove i knew a damn thing about him, either.

i don't really back any of his ideas, and on PA i'm a pretty loud critic of the man. i do read his site and i've read his, probably self written, bio. there's A LOT in there if you read between the lines, just a damn ton.

i have a pretty good idea of what i'd ask him if we were in a 1-on-1 session, and think like JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE PLANET, he's dealing with some hurt, somewhere in there. and some of this hurt, that we all have, is manifested in different ways - some people say, "i don't want others to hurt, i'm going to help" (read between those lines, eh?) and some do damage overtly and not.

i feel he is unknowingly doing damage *raising a lot of false hope in people, telling them the sky is falling, giving no ''bang for the buck" and in a few month from now there will be another big story, reported as it happens at divine cosmos, exclusively*; but that doesn't me sociopath. i don't think he's a tool of some dark cabal, spreading dis info. i don't believe in any sort of dark cabal anyway. i believe there are dis info agents, but the things they work with are much more subtle and much more lasting then some guy with a website.

i'm not going to go into just what i think hurt him, but again, he's tipped his hand on more than one occasion. degree/experience excluded, i think people could see it. he would probably be the first to admit it, as he often talks about his emotions.

it irked me very much when he cried on air. i'm around people 1-on-1 that cry, if not daily, weekly. his seemed false. i slammed him for it, and got in trouble with the mods; as i should have. but again, that doesn't mean sociopathic.

anyway - what does it matter what i think? i'm slowly coming around to the idea that he's harmless, other than the fact that i feel too many people buy into these ideas and are distracted (SELF INCLUDED - no the buy in, the distraction).

but let's save the diagnosis shall we? or not, we are each allowed an opinion!

we all have something, whether we admit it or not. ego sucks. we are a weird species. :pound:

[Whiskey_Mystic]

anyway - what does it matter what i think? i'm slowly coming around to the idea that he's harmless, other than the fact that i feel too many people buy into these ideas and are distracted (SELF INCLUDED - no the buy in, the distraction).

but let's save the diagnosis shall we? or not, we are each allowed an opinion!

we all have something, whether we admit it or not. ego sucks. we are a weird species. :pound:

Aint that the truth, sister? We've all got our stuff. Every one of us is a weirdo. Whether or not I agree with everything he says, David has some qualities that I admire. Most people do.

And as far as what does it matter what you think? We are your Avalon family. This is the place where what you say matters. Whether people agree or not it matters. And the parts where you agree with me, those parts matter even more.

Suntory Times.

[Wind]

Even though I don't believe these arrests I really hope they would occur because the thought of Bill eating his hats makes me laugh out loud. Every single time.

[Black Panther]

anyway - what does it matter what i think? i'm slowly coming around to the idea that he's harmless, other than the fact that i feel too many people buy into these ideas and are distracted (SELF INCLUDED - no the buy in, the distraction).

but let's save the diagnosis shall we? or not, we are each allowed an opinion!

we all have something, whether we admit it or not. ego sucks. we are a weird species. :pound:

Aint that the truth, sister? We've all got our stuff. Every one of us is a weirdo. Whether or not I agree with everything he says, David has some qualities that I admire. Most people do.

And as far as what does it matter what you think? We are your Avalon family. This is the place where what you say matters. Whether people agree or not it matters. And the parts where you agree with me, those parts matter even more.

Suntory Times.

It's easy to judge others. Especially famous people. No one is flawless.
Imo we can learn from everyone and by connecting the dots we create
our own world / reality.

[wynderer]

he's a faithful servitor, tho


The more Drake the Dragon lets his dragonfly down in public the more inclined I am to know he's not a dragon blood at all.

[tenacity1]

I'm sure others are sick and tired of verbal reassurance, and need something to confirm what they read.

No amount of reassurance or confirmation is going to make any of us feel in control of this situation we find ourselves in right now.

Hanging on the words of any of these researchers (like they matter)...trying to prove their 'rightness' or 'wrongness'...is why you see so much suffering and hand-wringing here at PA.

Wilock, Fulford, Drake...they are servants, not leaders. My suggestion would be to stop giving them so much of your power. It'll drive you crazy.

If the arrests happen, they happen. If they don't, they don't. I see no good reason to be dependent on this happening or not happening.
Exactly.. I'm going to be living with hope and love no matter who says what. I just cannot get behind fear porn.. there are documentations on the fReedom reigns website.. I hope it's for real. However, I'm still going to try and be a person of peace. I don't have the time to give others what they want. I've got a garden to tend. Peace be with you all. Being hopeful doesn't mean anything more than that..I am hopeful quite simple really.

[KiwiElf]

The time will come - regardless of what we individually or collectively believe - when we will all be facing the red or blue pill scenario - for "real".

The problem is,... which one is "real"? ;)

[swoods_blue]

I think Wilcock has done an incredible amount of research over the years, and find his efforts to be earnest. I appreciate that he works hard to connect dots, and to lay those connections out for others. His dissection of the illuminati rituals contained within past Super Bowls and Olympics shows are well worth reading.

I think he runs aground by trying to predict future events, and his occasional self-promotional tone doesn't sit very well with me. He has too many sources who are not only unnamed, but who aren't even described in vague terms. No pseudonyms or indentifiers of any kind, such as "a major bank vice-president" or such. And if there have been "mass arrests" or anything of that nature, I have yet to see them. And nobody has posted anything here, either.

That's not to say there haven't been odd resignations or other events over the years -- there certainly have been. But "mass" means more than one, or three, or a dozen.