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christian
6th May 2012, 21:29
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlDVRQIgAVw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmHeUtPYII
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o42OMkniiXY
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SUpcSlwkrI
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdNEJ0vX1Nk
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4JYIprFRPY
(overall length: 1h 22min)

The bullet points:

Obama is a good guy at heart but gets sabotaged by powerful interests around him, soon Obama will speak in favor of mass arrests publicly, the initial arenas for that will be the G8 summit in Camp David (May 18-19) and the NATO summit in Chicago (May 20-21)
NDAA (http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-ndaa-signing-statement-i-have-the-power-to-detain-americans-but-i-wont/) is there to have a legal basis for the military to conduct the mass arrests -- of the cabal
The National Defense Resource Preparedness Act (http://www.infowars.com/martial-law-obama-issues-executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness/) is there so there will be no chaos in the public infrastructure during the mass-arrests -- nevertheless he says be prepared, because basic amenities might not be available for some time
US joining the ICC again (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/) makes the liens lawsuit (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) from Neil Keenan against the Federal Reserve a success
The list of people to be arrested is full of suprises when it comes to who's on it and who's not on it
What happens with the next US elections is something nobody will expect



What a peculiar perspective. He's also sending a message of support to Drake, whom he obviously sympathizes with, but Drake did not make similar statements about Obama and the tyrannical legislation in the NDAA and NDRPA, did he? Right now I see no evidence, that would support Bill's claims, apart from channelings from the Galactic Federation of Light etc., that since a long time said, that Obama is indeed a blessing for humanity. We'll see what happens on the NATO and G8 summit and if Bill Brockbrader is being mind-controlled and/or fed disinfo.

:yo:

gripreaper
6th May 2012, 21:43
I smell a rat. I don't like it one bit. Can't put my finger on it and contextualize it, it's just energetic at this point.

Bryn ap Gwilym
6th May 2012, 21:44
Hasn't Brockbrader been exposed as a channeller & a follower of the GFL?
Surely, anyone who is a product of George Van Tassel & the Theosophical Society can not be taken seriously?


Brockbrader = diversion
Drake = diversion
Mass arrests = diversion

How many more months / years will these stories be stentched out?

Note;
A strange sound coming from the videos.

AlternativeInfoJunkie
6th May 2012, 22:08
We shall see... I don't trust the idea that the NDAA was passed to help the mass arrest scenario. Unless of course we are talking about the mass arrest of innocent civilians falsely accused of supporting terrorism. I had been liking bill (brockbrader) lately but I don't know about this.

Dorjezigzag
7th May 2012, 00:02
Surely, anyone who is a product of George Van Tassel & the Theosophical Society can not be taken seriously?

It can be very strongly argued that the theosophical society has lost its way, but to argue that anyone who is a product cannot be taken seriously is in my opinion a gross overstatement.
Here are some famous names who were influenced.

WRITERS

Lyman Frank Baum , American author of The Wizard of Oz and other children’s stories (1851 –1919)

Mohini Chatterji , on the Gita, Vivekachudamani, etc. (1858 –1936)

James Henry Cousins (1873 – February 20, 1956) was an Irish writer, playwright, actor, critic, editor, teacher and poet. He used several pseudonyms including Mac Oisín and the Hindu name Jayaram.[1] Cousins was significantly influenced by Russell's ability to reconcile mysticism with a pragmatic approach to social reforms and by the teachings of Madame Blavatsky. He had a life-long interest in the paranormal and acted as reporter in several experiments carried out by William Fletcher Barrett, Professor of physics at Dublin University and one of the founders of the Society for Psychical Research. He also wrote widely on the subject of Theosophy and in 1915 Cousins travelled to India with the voyage fees paid for by Annie Besant the President of the Theosophical Society. (Source: wikipedia)

Robert Duncan (January 7, 1919 – February 3, 1988) was an American poet and a student of H.D. and the Western esoteric tradition who spent most of his career in and around San Francisco. Though associated with any number of literary traditions and schools, Duncan is often identified with the poets of the New American Poetry and Black Mountain College. Duncan's mature work emerged in the 1950s in the literary context of Beat culture. Duncan was a key figure in the San Francisco Renaissance. Duncan was born in Oakland, California, as Edward Howard Duncan Jr. His mother, Marguerite Pearl Duncan, had died in childbirth and his father was unable to afford him, so in 1920 he was adopted by Edwin and Minnehaha Symmes, a family of devout Theosophists.(Source: wikipedia)

William Butler Yeats , Anglo-Irish poet and playwright (1865 –1939)

George W. Russell (Æ) , Irish poet, painter, and agricultural expert (1867 –1935)

Talbot Mundy (1879 –1940)

Sir Edwin Arnold, British author of The Light of Asia and The Song Celestial

Lewis Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), author of the Alice books, Sylvie and Bruno, etc. (1832 –1898)

Kahlil Gibran (cf. Prophet : the life and times of Kahlil Gibran / Robin Waterfield. (New York : St. Martin's Press, 1998), p. 225.)

Sir Henry Rider Haggard, English novelist, King Solomon’s Mines, She, etc. (1856 –1925)

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, British author of Sherlock Holmes stories, Spiritualist (1859 –1930). His theosophical interests are debatable. He looked into theosophy and was in touch with the Blavatsky Association about the Hodgson Report.

Maurice Maeterlinck , Belgian Symbolist poet, playwright, and novelist, awarded the Nobel Prize in 1911 (1862 –1949)

Algernon Blackwood , writer on the supernatural and mystery tales (1869 –1951)

Jack London , American novelist (1876 –1916)

E. M. Forster , English novelist, Passage to India, etc. (1879 –1970)

James Joyce , Irish novelist, Ulysses, Finnegans Wake (1882 –1941)

D. H. Lawrence , English novelist, The Plumed Serpent, etc. “a religious writer who did not so much reject Christianity as try to create a new religious and moral basis for modern life” (1885 –1930)

T. S. Eliot , Anglo-American poet and critic (1888 –1965)

Henry Miller , Bohemian autobiographical novelist (1891 –1980)

John Boyton Priestley , English novelist and playwright, Time and the Conways, I Have Been Here Before, An Inspector Calls (1894 –1984)

Thornton Wilder , American novelist and playwright, The Cabala, The Bridge of San Luis Rey, Our Town, The Matchmaker [ > Hello, Dolly!], The Skin of Our Teeth (1897 –1975)

Kurt Vonnegut , Jr., American author of satirical novels of social criticism (b. 1922)

Sir Thomas (Tom) Stoppard , Czech-born playwright of intellectual drama, e.g. Arcadia (1993), which brought together Fermat's Last Theorem, chaos theory, landscape architecture, and Lord Byron; also Indian Ink about Indian independence and Theosophists (b. 1937)
ARCHITECTS

Claude Bragdon , American architect and author (1866 –1946)

Walter Burley Griffin , American architect and city planner, who worked in F. L. Wright’s studio and who designed the plan for the Australian capital, Canberra (1876 –1937)
SCIENTISTS AND INVENTORS

Sir William Crookes , theoretical physicist and inventor of the prototype of the TV tube and fluorescent lighting (1832 –1919)

Thomas Edison , American inventor of the electric light, phonograph, etc. (1847 –1931) (cf. The Theosophist, August 1931, p. 657)

Rupert Sheldrake , British biologist and proposer of morphogenetic fields. (b. 1942)

Alfred Russel Wallace , naturalist who developed a theory of natural selection independent of Darwin, excepted higher mental capacities from the theory, a Spiritualist (1823 –1913). His theosophical interests are debatable. “I have tried several Reincarnation and Theosophical books, but cannot read them or take any interest in them. They are so purely imaginative and do not seem to me rational. Many people are captivated by it. I think most people who like a grand, strange, complex theory of man and nature, given with authority- people who if religious would be Roman Catholics.” quoted from William Brock, William Crookes (1832–1919) and the Commercialization of Science, 2008 (originally in Marchant’s 1916 biography of Wallace - it comes from an 1897 letter by Wallace).

Camille Flammarion , French astronomer (1842 –1925)

Baroness Jane Goodall , scientist working with chimpanzees, Theosophical connection acknowledged in her recent book Reason for Hope (b. 1934)
Psychologists

Roberto Assagioli (Venice, February 27, 1888 - Capolona d'Arezzo, August 23, 1974) was an Italian psychologist, humanist, and visionary. Assagioli founded the psychological movement known as psychosynthesis, which is still being developed today by therapists, and psychologists, who practice his technique. His work in the field of psychology concentrated on spiritual needs, pertaining to the will and Ego. (Source: wikipedia)

William James , philosopher and psychologist

Carl Gustav Jung , founder of analytical psychology (1875 –1961). Was not interested in Blavatsky, Leadbeater or Besant, but was in frequent contact with G.R.S. Mead - after the latter had left the T.S. in 1909.

Ian Stevenson , Professor of Psychiatry, University of Virginia and leading investigator of reported cases of reincarnation. Probably influenced by his theosophical upbringing.
Painters and other Artists

Rukmini Devi Arundale: Revitalized Indian arts, especially dance and music. In her case membership of the Theosophical Society meant international contacts which made it possible for her to learn western dance and music, which in turn gave her the training necessary to breath new life into Indian dance. The way she ended up doing what she did is unthinkable without the contacts the Theosophical Society gave her.

Hilma af Klint , abstract painter. (cf for instance The Theosophist July 2006, p. 385-389)

Piet Mondriaan , Dutch painter, leading exponent of “de Stijl” whose “neoplastic” style profoundly influenced modern art, architecture, and graphic design (1872 –1944) Member of the Theosophical Society

Beatrice Wood , artist, ceramicist (1893 –1998)

Paul Gauguin , French post impressionist, primitivist painter (1848 –1903)

Vassily Kandinsky , Russian founder of nonobjectivist art (1866 –1944) Influenced by theosophy, not a member.

Gutzon Borglum , monumental sculptor of the Mount Rushmore presidential heads and painter of a portrait of Blavatsky 1867 –1941)

Charles Rennie Mackintosh , Scottish art nouveau architect and designer (1868 –1926)

Paul Klee , whimsical Swiss artist of Der Blaue Reiter and the Bauhaus School (1879 –1940)

Nicholas Roerich , Russian mystical artist, friend of Henry Wallace (1874 –1947)

Harris, Lawren , Canadian painter was a member of the Toronto Lodge of the Theosophical Society in Canada. (October 23, 1885 – January 29, 1970)

Alex Grey. It seems unlikely this painter was influenced by the Theosophical Society, but he certainly sympathises with it as his link page testifies.
Musicians

Cyril Scott , composer and author (1879 –1970)

Gustav Mahler , symphonic composer (1860 –1911)

Jean Sibelius , Finnish musical composer inspired by the Kalevala (1865 –1957)

Alexander Nikolaievitch Scriabin , Russian composer, “Theosophical ideas similarly provided the basis of the orchestral Poem of Ecstasy (1908) and Prometheus (1911), which called for the projection of colours onto a screen during the performance,” (1872 –1915)

Elvis Presley , American rock and roll musician (1935 –1977)

Ruth Crawford-Seeg - composer

Dane Rudhyar - composer

Alexander Scriabin - composer
Actors

Florence Farr , actress, Golden Dawn, etc. (1860 –1917)

Dana Ivey , Broadway, screen, and TV actress

Shirley MacLaine , American film actress (b. 1934)
Politicians

Annie Besant , president of the Theosophical Society, prominent activist for the independence of India (was already an activist for many causes before she became a member of the Theosophical Society). Popular lecturer on many themes. Her popularity did a lot to enlarge the membership of co-freemasonry (which accepts men and women). Education in India for boys and girls (continuing the work started by H.S. Olcott, first president of the Theosophical Society)

Allan Octavian Hume , British administrator in India, one of the founders of the Indian National Congress (1829 –1912)

Alfred Deakin , framer of the Australian Federation and Prime Minister of Australia, 1903 –4, 1905 –8, 1909 –10 (1856 –1919)

Hernández Martínez , President of El Salvador (1882 –1966)

Henry Wallace , Vice President of the United States (1888 –1965)

Jawaharlal Nehru , first Prime Minister of India, 1947 –64 (1889 –1964) Ferdinand T. Brooks, a young theosophists, tutored Nehru as an adolescent. Nehru acknowledged in his autobiography that “ F.T. Brooks left a deep impress upon me and I feel that I owe a debt to him and to Theosophy. ” (Theosophical History Vol. VII, Issue 3, July 1998)

George Lansbury , leader of British Labour party, 1931 –5, (1859 –1940)

Mohandas K. Gandhi , Indian patriot, framer of satyagraha (1869 –1948) Gandhi certainly knew Annie Besant, had great respect for her, and the version of the Bhagavad Gita that first acquainted him with Indian philosophy was her translation. In his autobiography he describes his early acquaintance in London with Theosophy and the Theosophical Society. The two “brothers” he mentions there are almost certainly the Keightley uncle and nephew, whom others have mistaken for brothers as they were so close in age. His contribution: a reformulation of Hinduism into a passive activism. Contributed significantly to the independence movement in India and the breakdown of the castesystem.
Feminists

Clara Codd , A feminist who was imprisoned in England.

Matilda Joslyn Gage , American feminist and coauthor with Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony of the History of Woman Suffrage (1815 –1902)

Gloria Steinem , American writer and feminist, editor of Ms., Theosophical influence acknowledged in an interview in Jewish News (b. 1934)
Religious Figures

Guy Warren Ballard (July 28, 1878 – December 29, 1939) was an American mining engineer who became, with his wife, Edna Anne Wheeler Ballard, the founder of the "I AM" Activity. Ballard was born in Burlington, Iowa and married his wife in Chicago in 1916. Both Edna and Guy studied Theosophy and the occult extensively.(Source: Wikipedia)

Alice Ann Bailey (June 16, 1880 – December 15, 1949), known as Alice A. Bailey or AAB, was an influential writer and teacher in the fields of spiritual, occult, esoteric healing,astrological, Christian and other religious themes. In 1915 Bailey discovered the Theosophical Society and the work of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (Bailey, pp 134–136). Theosophical Society states that Bailey became involved in 1917. Theosophist Joy Mills states that in 1918 she became a member of the Esoteric Section of the society. (Source: Wikipedia)

Paul Brunton, (1898-1981) Author of A Search in Secret India, the book that made Ramana Maharshi well known. (source) Brunton was a member of the TS only for a short while, but the biography by his son reveals that he shared many of the more obscure ideas from the Secret Doctrine. [More about Paul Brunton and his books]

Bhagwan Das (January 12, 1869 - September 18, 1958) was an Indian theosophist and public figure. For a time he served in the Central Legislative Assembly of British India. He became allied with the Hindustani Culture Society and was active in opposing rioting as a form of protest. As an advocate for national freedom from the British rule, he was often in danger of reprisals from the Colonial government. Born in Varanasi, India, he graduated school to became a deputy in the collections bureau, and later left to continue his academic pursuits. Das joined the Theosophical Society in 1894 inspired by a speech by Annie Besant. After the 1895 split, he sided with the Theosophical Society Adyar. Within that society, he was an opponent of Jiddu Krishnamurti and his "Order of the Star in the East". Das joined the Indian National Congress during the Non-cooperation movement and was honoured with the Bharat Ratna in 1955. With Besant he formed a professional collaboration which led to the founding of the Central Hindu College, which became Benaras Hindu University. Das would later found the Kashi Vidya Peeth, a national university where he served as headmaster. Das was a scholar of Sanskrit, from which he added to the body of Hindi language. He wrote approximately 30 books, many of these in Sanskrit and Hindi. Das received the Bharat Ratna award in 1955. (source: wikipedia)

Anagarika Dharmapala , a leading figure in the Buddhist revival (1864 –1933)

Gerard Encausse (July 13, 1865 - 25 October 1916), whose esoteric pseudonym was Papus, was the Spanish-born French physician, hypnotist, and popularizer of occultism, who founded the modern Martinist Order. He joined the French Theosophical Society shortly after it was founded by Madame Blavatsky in 1884 - 1885, but he resigned soon after joining because he disliked the Society's emphasis on Eastern occultism. In 1888, he co-founded his own group, the Kabbalistic Order of the Rose-Croix. That same year, he and his friend Lucien Chamuel founded the Librarie du Merveilleux and its monthly revue L'Initiation, which remained in publication until 1914. (source: wikipedia)

Violet Mary Firth Evans, born Violet Mary Firth (December 6, 1890 – January 8, 1946) and better known as Dion Fortune, was a British occultist and author. She was born at Bryn-y-Bia in Llandudno, Wales, and grew up in a household where Christian Science was rigorously practiced. She reported visions of Atlantis at age four and the developing of psychic abilities during her twentieth year, at which time she suffered a nervous breakdown; after her recovery she found herself drawn to the occult. She joined the Theosophical Society and attended courses in psychology and psychoanalysis at the University of London, and became a lay psychotherapist at the Medico-Psychological Clinic in Brunswick Square.(source: wikipedia)

Manly Palmer Hall (March 18, 1901 - August 29, 1990) was a Canadian-born author and mystic. He is perhaps most famous for his work The Secret Teachings of All Ages: An Encyclopedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy, published in 1928 when he was 27 years old. (Source: wikipedia, which does not mention him being a theosophist, but does list him under 'Canadian Theosophists' and 'American Theosophists')

Max Heindel - born Carl Louis von Grasshoff in Aarhus, Denmark on July 23, 1865 - was a Christian occultist, astrologer, and mystic. In 1903, Max Heindel moved to Los Angeles, California, seeking work. After attending lectures by the theosophist C.W. Leadbeater, he joined the Theosophical Society of Los Angeles, of which he became vice-president in 1904 and 1905. He also became a vegetarian, and began the study of astrology, which gave him the key to unlocking the mysteries of man's inner nature. He founded The Rosicrucian Fellowship in 1909/11 at Mount Ecclesia, Oceanside (California).(source: wikipedia)

Alan Leo, born William Frederick Allan, (Westminster, 7 August 1860 - Bude, 30 August 1917), was a prominent British astrologer, author, publisher and theosophist, and is considered by many to be the father of modern astrology. Leo, who took the name of his sun-sign as a pseudonym, founded the Astrological Lodge of the Theosophical Society in 1915. He is credited as being one of the most important astrologers in the 20th century because it appears that his work had the effect of stimulating a revival of astrology in the west after its general downfall in the 17th century. Leo was a devout Theosophist and he worked many of religious concepts such as karma and reincarnation into his astrology. He used the Theosophical Society’s vast international connections to publish, translate and disseminate his work across Europe and America and it was in these countries that astrology began to be revived.(source: wikipedia)

Venerable Balangoda Ananda Maitreya (August 24, 1896 - July 18, 1998), 'one of the leading figures of contemporary Buddhism, not just in Sri Lanka but throughout the world' (see: Chapter 9 in 'Buddhism Transformed: Religious Change in Sri Lanka', by Richard Gombrich and Gananath Obeyesekere).

G.R.S. Mead : introduced Gnosticism to popular knowledge in England and probably the world.

Alexandra David-Néel born Louise Eugénie Alexandrine Marie David (born in Saint-Mandé, Val-de-Marne on 24 October 1868, and died in Digne-les-Bains, on 8 September 1969) was a Belgian-French explorer, anarchist, spiritualist, Buddhist and writer, most known for her visit to Lhasa, Tibet, in 1924, when it was forbidden to foreigners. David-Néel wrote over 30 books about Eastern religion, philosophy, and her travels. Her teachings influenced beat writers Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, and philosopher Alan Watts. Born in Paris, she moved to Elsene at the age of six. During her childhood she had a very strong desire for freedom and spirituality. At the age of 18, she had already visited England, Switzerland and Spain on her own, and she was studying in Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society.(source: wikipedia)

Christmas Humphreys , English introducer of Buddhism to Westerners (1901 –1983). On Christmas Humphreys work as a judge. Christmas Humphreys: an article for the Canadian Theosophist.

Dr Walter Gorn Old (born 20 March 1864, at 2:06 a.m. LMT in Handsworth, England; died 23 December 1929 in Hove, England) was a notable 19th century mystic and astrologer, better known as Sepharial. An eminent English Theosophist, Sepharial was a well-known and respected astrologer in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and wrote numerous books, some of which (particularly those on numerology) are still highly regarded today. He was editor of "Old Moore's Almanac", which is still published in the 21st century. In 1887 at the age of just 23 was admitted to the "inner sanctum" of the Theosophical Society. He was in fact one of the founder members of the Theosophical movement in England. Madame Blavatsky (whom he lived with until her death) called him "The Astral Tramp" because of his nightly explorations into the astral plane (Ref: Kim Farnell's book).

D.T. Suzuki , Brought Zen-Buddhism to the West. It has recently come to light that not only was his wife a central figure in the (small) theosophical scene in Japan, he himself was a member of the Theosophical Society when he lived in Japan. (Theosophical History Magazine, article by Adele Algeo)

H.S. Olcott , founding president of the Theosophical Society: Education in Sri Lanka and India, Composition of the Buddhist Catechism, Started a newspaper in Sri Lanka for the Sinhalese people. 'Sarasavi Sandaresa' [cf www.buddhistchannel.tv february 17th 2006], Buddhist flag (organization of committee and significant input in the final design)

Walter Yeeling Evans-Wentz (February 2, 1878 – July 17, 1965) was an anthropologist and writer who was a pioneer in the study of Tibetan Buddhism. He was born in Trenton, New Jersey, and as a teenager read Madame Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine and became interested in the teachings of Theosophy. Evans-Wentz is best known for four texts translated from the Tibetan, especially The Tibetan Book of the Dead. Evans-Wentz credited himself only as the compiler and editor of these volumes. The actual translation of the texts was performed by Tibetan Buddhists, primarily Lama Kazi Dawa-Samdup (1868–1922), a teacher of English at the Maharaja's Boy's School in Gangtok, Sikkim who had also done translations for Alexandra David-Neel and Sir John Woodroffe. Evans-Wentz was a practitioner of the religions he studied. He became Dawa-Samdup's "disciple" (E-W's term), wore robes and ate a simple vegetarian diet. He passed his final twenty-three years in San Diego, and provided finanancial support to the Maha Bodhi Society, Self-Realization Fellowship, and the Theosophical Society.(source: wikipedia)

William Wynn Westcott (17 December 1848 – 30 July 1925) was a coroner, ceremonial magician, and Freemason born in Leamington, Warwickshire, England.[1]. He was a Supreme Magus (chief) of the S.R.I.A and went on to co found the Golden Dawn. Wescott co-founded the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn with Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers and William Robert Woodman in 1887, using the motto V.H. Frater Sapere Aude. Around this time, he was also active in the Theosophical Society. (source: wikipedia)
MISCELLANEOUS

Alonzo Decker (?? –1956), co founder of Black & Decker manufacturing company, joined T.S. in America April 3, 1929, member until his death.

General Abner Doubleday , legendary father of baseball (1819 –1893)

Maria Montessori , educator and founder of Montessori Method, based on a belief in the child’s creative potential, drive to learn, and right to be treated as an individual (1870 –1952)
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/influence-theosophy.html

truth4me
7th May 2012, 01:26
I just can't buy into the "Obama is a good guy stuff". I mean "if" Presidents are put in office by TPTB then how can he really be a good guy? I seriously think he is a clone. Again I say look at this and decide for yourself.
http://vimeo.com/6747788

Alex Laker
7th May 2012, 01:43
Bill Brockbrader trying to get a slice of the latest alternative media pie? Well Bill Would.

:rolleyes:

GoodETxSG
7th May 2012, 02:12
I like this more intellectual and approach that is not one of panic and fear. Be prepared and have all the staples you need to survive... have some silver/gold... just be able to ride out the "Storm"... just be prepared and pray and meditate on the best but be ready for the past. I like what he says, if all of this turns out to be BS... guess what... worse case scenario you have plenty of food and supplies that you can use anyway. It is better to HAVE IT and not need it thant to NEED IT and not have it!

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I just can't buy into the "Obama is a good guy stuff". I mean "if" Presidents are put in office by TPTB then how can he really be a good guy? I seriously think he is a clone. Again I say look at this and decide for yourself.
http://vimeo.com/6747788

I hate to burst bubbles for people... but NO, OBAMA is NOT a good guy... none of them are. He has some crazy dirty secrets of his own. Do not get caught up in the political party stuff or hero's... they will always let you down.

EVERYONE should get their HAM Radio operator license... Good luck.

intruth
7th May 2012, 02:46
I don't understand why Brockbrader has been thrown into this role. Drake can do it all. He has more credibility as far as I'm concerned. Why is Eva Moore involved? Her involvement seems unnecessary. I have nothing against Brockbrader. I think he seems sincere. Be interesting to see what Drake has
to say about Bill's info.

ThePythonicCow
7th May 2012, 03:00
I don't understand why Brockbrader has been thrown into this role.
Just more pot (or some other word, starting with 's') stirring, I presume.

The ease with which forums such as this can be immersed in such divisive and distracting conflict is a tad discouraging.

Cognitive Dissident
7th May 2012, 03:58
Hang on!
Did the US rejoin the ICC or not?
The only source I can find is Veterans Today.
This would be all over the MSM if true.
But it isn't, so probably false.
My take: Brockbader blowing smoke. Drake, likewise.

spiritguide
7th May 2012, 04:15
The future will tell the story and this could be looked at as the beginning of the education coming forth. Best to care for self and others and stay out of the way. Fore-warned is being fore-armed.

jorr lundstrom
7th May 2012, 12:41
Im not commenting on the content of those videos.

But it sure looks as Eva actually is Bills handler.

She is the one who is behind the steeringwheel

through this so called interview.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

jackovesk
7th May 2012, 17:21
The bullet points:

• Obama is a good guy at heart but gets sabotaged by powerful interests around him, soon Obama will speak in favor of mass arrests publicly, the initial arenas for that will be the G8 summit in Camp David (May 18-19) and the NATO summit in Chicago (May 20-21)

What a LOAD of (Utter Crap) Bill Brockbrader..! :bad:

Obama should be one of the 1st to be arrested..! :lever:

The BS/Disinfo just keeps a flowin...:faint:

Wind
7th May 2012, 17:50
I don't think this mass arrest thing is completely disinfo, but it's mostly false hope. That doesn't mean that there wouldn't be light in the end of the tunnel... Because there is! This planet and we as a human species are going a transition right now. There will be a Golden Age very soon, that's the part where David Wilcock is totally right.

StarDust
7th May 2012, 18:11
I just can't buy into the "Obama is a good guy stuff". I mean "if" Presidents are put in office by TPTB then how can he really be a good guy?

You're assumption is based on the previous capacity of the cabal to steal elections by rigging them. This is how "W" was elected both times. This power was stripped away in 2006 and thus the 2008 election did not end up the way that "TPTB" intended. If so, Hillary Clinton would currently be president; as she was chosen due to her allegiance to the cabal and was the ONLY reason why Clinton won the New Hampshire primary that year.

The election of Obama was a surprise to TPTB and this is why he is still being pursued with regard to his legitimate right to be president via his birth certificate and other means. Most people are not aware, but the whole "birther" thing was started by Hillary Clinton's camp, not the republicans.

And since most people posting on this thread have no actual experience with the Executive branch (aside from an intentionally vague civics lesson in grade school), I thought this post I submitted on another thread bared repeating.


[QUOTE=foreverfan;483287]I'm worried because Bill Wood just said that Obama is not a bad guy. WTF? Alex Jones, where are you on that one. :ohwell:

I don't belive Obama is intrinsically a "bad guy" either.

Politics and ideologies aside, his heart was in the right place until he found out what his job actually was. This occured the moment he stepped off the inaugural podium. Inside reports were that Obama became physically ill once his family was threatened if he didn't play ball within reason. I think this is why he has become noticeably center right since he took the oath of office.

In spite of how most people perceive it, the presidency is NOT a monolithic position and no presidential election has represented a true "choice" by the people since Kennedy was in office. JFK was a man of principle and look where that got him.

I was working in the White House when Vince Foster was found dead during Bill Clinton's first term as president. The "suicide," as it was reported, just didn't add up. My intuition at that time told me that it didn't pass the smell test and it became blatantly obvious to me that "the powers that be" within that institution had their own way of keeping those in line that might stray from the grand plan of the puppet master.

Although it is not apparent to outsiders, the office has become the ultimate puppet show by virtue of those who surround the president and have never run for office; yet have the ability to pull the strings of power. This aspect of our government is intentionally non-transparent.

StarDust
7th May 2012, 18:16
[QUOTE]Obama should be one of the 1st to be arrested..! :lever:


If you have actual physical proof that Obama actually broke a law, then you should submit your case before the courts when all of this goes down. Otherwise, your conjecture based on "how you feel about him" is baseless and thus no crime has been committed.

Bryn ap Gwilym
7th May 2012, 18:42
Dorjezigzag

Hi

Was there some sort of trigger in what I said that set you off?
Instead of you addressing the op, you posted a lengthly list of very dodgy people like Alice Ann Bailey to back up The Theosophical Society.

GoodETxSG
7th May 2012, 18:56
People still cling to the "HOPE" and "CHANGE" messages from politicians... when will you realize that only crooks and psychopaths’ have what it takes to BE ALLOWED into office. Our votes really are not "Counted" fairly and our representatives do not really "Represent" us... they only feign it when it is election time.

Do any of you really expect any real change from politicians? Have we learned nothing at all?

Especially after all of the hope and change BS from the last Presidential election, people show blind faith as if Politics is some sort of religion that they are completely loyal to.

Kimberley
7th May 2012, 19:34
I for one concur that Obama serves the light and It was not Bill Wood or anyone else that brought me to feeling that way. It is my own personal feeling. The those with no power (TWNP) wanted Hillary to be president..however the mass collective was way stronger than TWNP could combat with rigged voting machines and such.

It was easy to squeak George W in for a second term because the mass collective was still divided closely enough, however the mass collective had a lot of unconscious knowing that Obama "might" be able to do something. And TWNP knew that so they decided to go with Obama, knowing that when he was elected they would sit him down and show him the tapes of the JFK assassination and tell him this will be you if you do not play by our rules...and of course his whole family was threatened also...

I am still expecting that Obama is going to have an opportunity to speak freely when it is safe to do so... And I will admit that of course I have no proof..and that You may say that I'm a dreamer and I am proud of that and I dream of the mass arrests, and ET disclosure, and Obama being able to speak his truth with out being killed, and the end of big pharma, and the release of free energy technologies, etc but I am not the only one (dreamer) and I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one.


Here are a few other people that have the same dream.....

“Let Us ALL Serve the Light”, by KP, and “Periodic Reminder that President Obama Serves the Light”, by Steve Beckow
Posted on May 5, 2012

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/let-us-all-serve-the-light-by-kp-and-periodic-reminder-that-president-obama-serves-the-light-by-steve-beckow/

this is only an excerpt:


As I view all of this, the Light is “winning”. It has to. It is “winning” because we are, each one of us, operating more and more from our Light selves, and from an awareness that we each are Light beings. More and more are learning to view everything from their Light selves, their Energy selves, with their Light Eyes and Light Ears and Light Senses all turned “on”, and attuned to the messages they receive from the Light (Higher Senses). And this message here is coming via my Light (Higher) senses.

The one who is currently playing the role as President, living in the White House, is one who was chosen eons ago, and trained for eons, to come into that role, at exactly this time. No one else could do that job. Whether the physical body was born here, or born there, or traveled to Mars, or to Venus, or to Andromeda, matters not. This being was placed here, by choice, to do this job: to initiate the final steps that bring this entire planet out of the darkness of duality, and into the freedom of the Light.

That’s what I am doing. And that is what he is doing.

Much love to us ALL!!
XLgYAHHkPFs

Earth Angel
7th May 2012, 19:38
I am with you all the way Kimberley! yes you may say I am a dreamer too but I am happy to be so!

Arrowwind
7th May 2012, 19:39
My son has a smile just like that. Obama is a performer surely. The photo op reigning supreme

Kimberley
7th May 2012, 19:45
People still cling to the "HOPE" and "CHANGE" messages from politicians... when will you realize that only crooks and psychopaths’ have what it takes to BE ALLOWED into office. Our votes really are not "Counted" fairly and our representatives do not really "Represent" us... they only feign it when it is election time.

Do any of you really expect any real change from politicians? Have we learned nothing at all?

Especially after all of the hope and change BS from the last Presidential election, people show blind faith as if Politics is some sort of religion that they are completely loyal to.

What is wrong with HOPE or CHANGE??? And how can you make a blanket statement about anything in any way? Including
only crooks and psychopaths’ have what it takes to BE ALLOWED into office

I do agree that the majority of politicians are
only crooks and psychopaths’ have what it takes to BE ALLOWED into office but not ALL!!

And I will continue to EXPECT (not hope) EXPECT change!!! And It is not going to come via any president of the US or or some ET saviors, or ANYONE...It comes from within each and everyone of us!! BE THE CHANGE!!!

Some of us are acting "as if" and creating our beautiful new world today.... Be the change you expect to see.

Fundy Gemini
7th May 2012, 19:51
Okay - this is getting VERY MUDDY now!

One would expect COINTEL but now that Brockbrader is telling folks Obama is 'good' and working with them. ... either he is telling truth, or has been comprimised. ...

Read This - The Psy-ops begins, and effectively so now with the Brockbrader bombshell -

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5923

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_USA/120504.Hagmann.warning.html


Drake (not Brockbrader) needs to verify this Obama material and let us know.... I find it VERY SUSPICIOUS that somebody would suddenly deal with Brockbrader rather than Drake on this and ask him to put out the starement????

christian
7th May 2012, 20:38
Obama should be one of the 1st to be arrested..! :lever:

If you have actual physical proof that Obama actually broke a law, then you should submit your case before the courts when all of this goes down. Otherwise, your conjecture based on "how you feel about him" is baseless and thus no crime has been committed.

How about waging wars without congressional approval (http://www.infowars.com/coup-detat-pentagon-obama-declare-congress-ceremonial/)?

Or becoming the chairman of the UN security council (http://www.infowars.com/has-president-obama-the-constitutional-lawyer-committed-open-treason/) during his presidency violating article 1 section 9 clause 8 of the Constitution?

Or the signing of the NDAA (http://www.infowars.com/ndaa-is-a-hoax-you-cant-legalize-tyranny/)?

-------

In my opinion, if Obama is really a lightworker, he could just speak out about what's rotten, could endorse Ron Paul and could wait for the bullet and/or some torture for him and his family. Our 3d lifetime is limited anyways, but doing a significant thing ripples out into infinity. If he is really concerned about the souls of his family, he should know, that they are immortal and that being a puppet for the cabal won't help them much. Being an instrument for murderous scumbags is torture already anyways.

But maybe there is a bigger plan in the works, that I just cannot fathom right now, I'm always glad to be proven an idiot if that goes along with an unexpected positive turn in the big picture...

Fred Steeves
7th May 2012, 20:51
Once again, we find ourselves seeking comfort and answers anywhere from petty politicians, to the latest version of "Alternative Media Idol". The answers lie a bit closer to home folks, and they are infinite in their potential.

Cheers,
Fred

RMorgan
7th May 2012, 20:57
Once again, we find ourselves seeking comfort and answers anywhere from petty politicians, to the latest version of "Alternative Media Idol". The answers lie a bit closer to home folks, and they are infinite in their potential.

Cheers,
Fred

Hey Fred,

You outperform yourself on every new post!

Hahahahahaha!!! Alternative media Idol !!!!!! What a show!! :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Fundy Gemini
7th May 2012, 21:43
Well I respectfully disagree -

This is not David vs Goliath. ..
This David vs. an ARMY of Goliaths!

If you think individuals working separately instead of together are actually going to overcome a several hundred year Oligarchy using simply numbers against every resource on earth. .. well I think that would be incorrect.

Yes, people will rally around a good plan of action. One that makes a modicom of sense... do you have one?
There's only one on the table that I know of (and if we're not all being played for fools, it's a good one) What was Plan B again? right...

christian
7th May 2012, 22:08
Yes, people will rally around a good plan of action. One that makes a modicom of sense... do you have one?

I have a good plan, people taking back their dignity and self-responsibility and working together and stopping to be slaves of a ruthless cabal of murderers.

I don't see the majority of the people rallying yet though...

WhiteFeather
7th May 2012, 22:09
Hasn't Brockbrader been exposed as a channeller & a follower of the GFL?
Surely, anyone who is a product of George Van Tassel & the Theosophical Society can not be taken seriously?


Brockbrader = diversion
Drake = diversion
Mass arrests = diversion

How many more months / years will these stories be stentched out?

Note;
A strange sound coming from the videos.

Hey Im a big fan of some awesome channelers. 3 to say the least.

1. Jane Roberts - The Seth Material A must read channeled material.

2. The Law of One Books/Ra Material - by L/L Research (Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty) Awesome Channeled Info.

3. Many of Dolores Cannons books are channeled materials. Read one when you get a chance. Keepers of The Garden is one of my favs.

Channelers are people too.

christian
7th May 2012, 22:19
To demonize channeling per se is like demonizing verbal articulation per se or breathing air or walking.

I wanna add "Course in Miracles", "Handbook for the New Paradigm", "The Divine Iliad", "Bringers of the Dawn" and "Spiritual Laws and Lessons of the Universe" to that list.

Anyways, I'm 100% sure that a substantial amount of channeled material is disinfo. Simply must be. If all channelings were true, it would be way too easy, one would just have to do what the channelings say and never use any discernment or make personal choices or take responsibility.

I like what "the Pleiadians" through Barbara Marciniak said "if you just believe everything we tell you, you are our fools", and that was given in the context of "we want to nudge you to do good things, that seems more practical to us than just telling the truth, because what would that be worth, if you couldn't properly act upon it". Discernment is key.

StarDust
7th May 2012, 22:25
Christian,

Barbara Marciniak's work is excellent and yes, discernment is absolutely key in any educational process.

Dorjezigzag
8th May 2012, 00:12
To demonize channeling per se is like demonizing verbal articulation per se or breathing air or walking.
This is so true, too many people want to see things as either black or white.

Many people look down on channelling but there is a long tradition back to Ancient Egypt and Greece with their oracles, indeed often a witch doctor or Shaman will invoke a an entity, spirit, ancestor, animal, energy, etc, etc who will speak through the shaman and share knowledge to those that need it.

In Tibet and throughout the greater Himalayan region, oracles have, and continue to play, an important part in revelation, religion, doctrine, and prophecy. In Tibet, the Nechung Oracle and other oracles on occasion, have also played principal roles assisting governmental decision-making and providing intelligence on pressing matters of state, and perhaps most importantly aid in the provision of security for the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet.

There are a number of oracular traditions within the Himalaya of which the Nechung is but one. The word "oracle" is used by Tibetans to refer to the spirit, deity, or entity that temporarily (or various styles of periodic or ongoing possession depending on the tradition) possesses enters those men and women who act as media between the phenomenal natural world and the subtle spiritual realms. These media are, therefore, known as kuten, which literally means, "the physical basis". Post-possession the medium may require protracted convalescence.

The tulku of the institution of the Dalai Lama, consults the oracle known as the Nechung Oracle, which is considered the Official State Oracle of the government of Tibet. The Nechung was formerly a Nyingma tradition. He gives a complete description of the process of trance and possession in his book Freedom in Exile.

Some are frauds, some are not. Some are perhaps misled by entities, but some can provide valuable and inspiring knowledge. In the words of the medicine man from the movie Little Big Man, sometimes the magic works, sometimes it doesn't

KiwiElf
8th May 2012, 01:18
Okay - this is getting VERY MUDDY now!

One would expect COINTEL but now that Brockbrader is telling folks Obama is 'good' and working with them. ... either he is telling truth, or has been comprimised. ...

Read This - The Psy-ops begins, and effectively so now with the Brockbrader bombshell -

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5923

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_USA/120504.Hagmann.warning.html


Drake (not Brockbrader) needs to verify this Obama material and let us know.... I find it VERY SUSPICIOUS that somebody would suddenly deal with Brockbrader rather than Drake on this and ask him to put out the starement????

Drake was asked this question (below) in the more recent second audio from Freedom Reigns/Wolfspirit Radio Archive (I would recommend listening to both recordings in their entirety - there is more than enough "drama" occurring over on the other threads from listeners taking information out of context and twisting meanings ;)) he also addresses other questions raised in this thread):

2012-05-06B-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part2.mp3


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

At 28:50:

"Q. Can you clear up who Obama is: good guy or bad guy?

Drake: [Chuckles] ahhhh, he might be a "switcheroony"

Debra
8th May 2012, 01:41
To demonize channeling per se is like demonizing verbal articulation per se or breathing air or walking.

I wanna add "Course in Miracles", "Handbook for the New Paradigm", "The Divine Iliad", "Bringers of the Dawn" and "Spiritual Laws and Lessons of the Universe" to that list.

Anyways, I'm 100% sure that a substantial amount of channeled material is disinfo. Simply must be. If all channelings were true, it would be way too easy, one would just have to do what the channelings say and never use any discernment or make personal choices or take responsibility.

I like what "the Pleiadians" through Barbara Marciniak said "if you just believe everything we tell you, you are our fools", and that was given in the context of "we want to nudge you to do good things, that seems more practical to us than just telling the truth, because what would that be worth, if you couldn't properly act upon it". Discernment is key.



MAJOR BUMP :bump2:

Christian, your words are way beyond your years - I could say this for many in your age range, there are some truly wonderful light bearers emerging from your generation.

I don´t necessarily agree with everything you say but (the above) I do. Sincerity, passion and a great moral compass. Thank you again.

Zebra

jackovesk
8th May 2012, 02:50
Obama should be one of the 1st to be arrested..! :lever:


If you have actual physical proof that Obama actually broke a law, then you should submit your case before the courts when all of this goes down. Otherwise, your conjecture based on "how you feel about him" is baseless and thus no crime has been committed.


I for one concur that Obama serves the light and It was not Bill Wood or anyone else that brought me to feeling that way. It is my own personal feeling. The those with no power (TWNP) wanted Hillary to be president..however the mass collective was way stronger than TWNP could combat with rigged voting machines and such.

It was easy to squeak George W in for a second term because the mass collective was still divided closely enough, however the mass collective had a lot of unconscious knowing that Obama "might" be able to do something. And TWNP knew that so they decided to go with Obama, knowing that when he was elected they would sit him down and show him the tapes of the JFK assassination and tell him this will be you if you do not play by our rules...and of course his whole family was threatened also...

I am still expecting that Obama is going to have an opportunity to speak freely when it is safe to do so... And I will admit that of course I have no proof..and that You may say that I'm a dreamer and I am proud of that and I dream of the mass arrests, and ET disclosure, and Obama being able to speak his truth with out being killed, and the end of big pharma, and the release of free energy technologies, etc but I am not the only one (dreamer) and I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one.


Here are a few other people that have the same dream.....



Dream On or Should I quote the 'Title' of one of the Doobie Brothers Classics - "What a ???? Believes"..!

A Little dose of Sheer 'Commonsense & Reality' has alot more Power to Effect an Outcome if Lawfully acted upon, rather than (Dreaming or Wishful Thinking)...

To Dream is to Dream (Nothing more - Nothing less) to Actually do something about it before its 'All Too Late' will be the real test...:)

Wake Up Obamarites he is helping DESTROY your Country to the point of the only (Mass Arrests) you will see will be ones carried out by the Dept. of Homeland Security, TSA & Police during the upcoming Civil War against the 'American People' who still believe in 'Liberty & Freedom' and the Constitution..!

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/ob1splash2.jpg

http://endthelie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Obama-is-the-real-terrorist-300x162.jpg http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/index.jpeg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/11/15/1226195/184786-obama-best-quotes.gif

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/obamworkdonesplash.jpg

...and Finally Kimberely & StarDust

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/1/7/3/4/7/5/Obama-is-a-Muslim-sympatihizing-traitor-24335891263.jpeg

sygh
8th May 2012, 03:00
Let me get this straight, Obama is working with who??? He's a switch-hitter? What? The same guy who, not only sat in but headed the UN Security Council while President of the US??? Etc???

Why do I think coff, coff, choke -this is crap?

So, everyone is gonna get what they want, no matter what actually happens, right?

WhiteFeather
8th May 2012, 03:01
To demonize channeling per se is like demonizing verbal articulation per se or breathing air or walking.

I wanna add "Course in Miracles", "Handbook for the New Paradigm", "The Divine Iliad", "Bringers of the Dawn" and "Spiritual Laws and Lessons of the Universe" to that list.

Anyways, I'm 100% sure that a substantial amount of channeled material is disinfo. Simply must be. If all channelings were true, it would be way too easy, one would just have to do what the channelings say and never use any discernment or make personal choices or take responsibility.

I like what "the Pleiadians" through Barbara Marciniak said "if you just believe everything we tell you, you are our fools", and that was given in the context of "we want to nudge you to do good things, that seems more practical to us than just telling the truth, because what would that be worth, if you couldn't properly act upon it". Discernment is key.

Christian thanks for that. Bringers of the dawn is some most amazing channeled materials as well. Barbaras work is fantastic.

Kimberley
8th May 2012, 03:02
Ya know what jackovesk I love you and I view you as a barnical on the but of progress!!! And love you for that role you play!!
Thank you!!!

And I am beyond hope I am in expectation which is beyond HOPE and it is working perfectly for me and I love it and you!!! I have a grand life and you can also when you believe in it!!!

I can not believe for you I can only believe for me and my belief IS working so very beautifully!!!

WHOOO HAAAAA!!!!!
Love us ALL!!!!

:grouphug:

WhiteFeather
8th May 2012, 03:05
Obama is just a school hall monitor peeps. The 27 layers above him call all the shots. Hope this helps.

Unified Serenity
8th May 2012, 03:17
Obama is just a school hall monitor peeps. The 27 layers above him call all the shots. Hope this helps.

He is still the mouth piece. He could decide to do something noble and act for American's rights and freedoms, but he does not. He is making money, he is living the life of a king, and he has no plans of standing up to his owners. Why would anyone re-elect him when they could vote for Ron Paul?

christian
8th May 2012, 03:18
Obama is just a school hall monitor peeps. The 27 layers above him call all the shots. Hope this helps.

Right now you're perfectly right. All the globalist minions can make a choice to step out of line and speak out and act differently. The success of such an undertaking would be limited of course, not least by the then shortened life expectancy. But it would definitely add to the overall momentum.

sygh
8th May 2012, 03:29
Ha-hummm.... have you been here for the last 2-3 years? Snap outta it. Unbelieveable. Nope, nada chance. Zero. Ziltch. Will ya vote for him now that he is "possibly" a switch-hitter? Come on.
So let me get this straight, Obama is gonna over-throw himself? NO, he's gonna go after the bad guys. Just went back and looked at some of the words he used to get elected. One of those words was... "UNITY". Ummmm... I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, I was thrilled to see a black American finally become the President of the United States. I'm just sorry he's torn the US apart like he has. And before you say something to me about the Republicans having something to do with that... ummm yup, I agree.

No. no way.

Kimberley
8th May 2012, 03:55
Ha-hummm.... have you been here for the last 2-3 years? Snap outta it. Unbelieveable. Nope, nada chance. Zero. Ziltch. Will ya vote for him now that he is "possibly" a switch-hitter? Come on.
So let me get this straight, Obama is gonna over-throw himself? NO, he's gonna go after the bad guys. Just went back and looked at some of the words he used to get elected. One of those words was... "UNITY". Ummmm... I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, I was thrilled to see a black American finally become the President of the United States. I'm just sorry he's torn the US apart like he has. And before you say something to me about the Republicans having something to do with that... ummm yup, I agree.

No. no way.

Darn I wish all you guys/gals could get it.... The whole political game is about DIVIDE & CONQUER it is just like baseball/football/soccer/ all sport teams/ dancing with the stars..etc... all pitted against each other to DIVIDE, & CONQUER!!

And that is all a rues, a sham, a game, to keep you controlled and laden down, divided. NOT UNITED!!!! Please stand in Unity not in division! And when you/we do we are victorious!!!!

Please stop judging anything as "right" or "wrong", "good' or "bad", "Heaven" or "Hell".. that is the big judgement that we need not judge!!! Judge NOT!!!!!

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

jackovesk
8th May 2012, 03:55
Obama is just a school hall monitor peeps. The 27 layers above him call all the shots. Hope this helps.

Correct WhiteFeather...:yes4:

As you may well be aware the PTW have been planning this 'Economic Tyrannical Collapse/Civil War' for Decades and have many alternative Plans to fall back on...

...and if you really think about it...their 'Patsy &/or Ultimate FALLGUY' is and always was the Illegitimate Kenyan born Barry Soetoro A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama ...

I'm not really into predictions, but this is the PTW 'Trump Card' in the 'Illuminati Card Game' that will be acted upon should all else fail...

http://media.adamdodson.org/var/resizes/Illuminati-Card-Game/backlash.png?m=1276952997


This card may be played at any time. It requires an action by some group with at least one alignment in common with the target, other than Fanatic!

Any one change in the targets alignment, Power or Resistence due to a Plot card is undone and returns to its original value. Remove the link and Discard that Plot card. This does not effect changes made by a NWO card.

christian
8th May 2012, 04:32
The whole political game is about DIVIDE & CONQUER it is just like baseball/football/soccer/ all sport teams/ dancing with the stars..etc... all pitted against each other to DIVIDE, & CONQUER!!

And that is all a rues, a sham, a game, to keep you controlled and laden down, divided. NOT UNITED!!!! Please stand in Unity not in division! And when you/we do we are victorious!!!!

Please stop judging anything as "right" or "wrong", "good' or "bad", "Heaven" or "Hell".. that is the big judgement that we need not judge!!! Judge NOT!!!!!

It's quite a challenge. Being unified, but still diverse. Not judging, but still making decisions. Trying to get it right when making an effort to fathom the realm beyond right and wrong...

David Trd1
8th May 2012, 04:47
Yes, people will rally around a good plan of action. One that makes a modicom of sense... do you have one?

I have a good plan, people taking back their dignity and self-responsibility and working together and stopping to be slaves of a ruthless cabal of murderers.

I don't see the majority of the people rallying yet though...

I would tend to agree with that one.The ''Cabal'' only have their power due to our acquiescing.

Peace.

Lost Soul
8th May 2012, 05:32
Amazing how some here still quaff heavily of the Kool Aid.

christian
8th May 2012, 05:52
Kool Aid comes in many flavors.

y4FAXsUJcm0

modwiz
8th May 2012, 06:11
Yes, people will rally around a good plan of action. One that makes a modicom of sense... do you have one?

I have a good plan, people taking back their dignity and self-responsibility and working together and stopping to be slaves of a ruthless cabal of murderers.

I don't see the majority of the people rallying yet though...

Your plan sounds very much like mine, Christian.

I like it too. :thumb:

modwiz
8th May 2012, 06:21
I don't understand why Brockbrader has been thrown into this role. Drake can do it all. He has more credibility as far as I'm concerned. Why is Eva Moore involved? Her involvement seems unnecessary. I have nothing against Brockbrader. I think he seems sincere. Be interesting to see what Drake has
to say about Bill's info.

I am glad to have someone like Drake creating a powerful thought form. As for him doing it all. I really do not know what you mean by that short sentence but I will let you know it rolls a little funky, IMO.

What we, as a collective have to say, what we think and what we are going to do to assist this process is crucial to the success of this paradigm shift. Waiting for others opinions will get us nowhere. The soup is on, but not yet at a boil. Time for us to get our bowls and spoons ready. Cold soup is not an option.

If I were one of the brave ones who will actually be stepping into harms way to begin this process, I would want to be looking at a more mature and responsible population than is in evidence currently. People are waking up, but waiting till as many as possible are ready until waiting is no longer possible sounds very prudent to me. I am not impatient to see this done right.

StarDust
8th May 2012, 07:19
[QUOTE=jackovesk;483629]Obama should be one of the 1st to be arrested..! :lever:

If you have actual physical proof that Obama actually broke a law, then you should submit your case before the courts when all of this goes down. Otherwise, your conjecture based on "how you feel about him" is baseless and thus no crime has been committed.


Alex Jones & InfoWars…REALLY?

OK,



How about waging wars without congressional approval (http://www.infowars.com/coup-detat-pentagon-obama-declare-congress-ceremonial/)?

With regard to starting wars without congressional approval…that "habit" started sometime around the Korean War. This is hardly news. I don't agree with the tactic, but seems to be accepted as standard practice. And if it is so egregious, then the "buck stops with congress". All they have to do is not approve the money for it. But no, they approve the budgets and thus approve of the "conflicts" by de facto consent.



Or becoming the chairman of the UN security council (http://www.infowars.com/has-president-obama-the-constitutional-lawyer-committed-open-treason/) during his presidency violating article 1 section 9 clause 8 of the Constitution?

Since the constitution is a living breathing document, it can (and has in time) been interpreted both narrowly as well as broadly. This is a bit of a stretch since the "body" that granted Obama the office of chairman is neither a "King, Prince, or foreign State.” The UN does not clearly fit any of those categories. If the supreme court finds that this violates the constitution, then Obama should resign his position within the UN.


Or the signing of the NDAA (http://www.infowars.com/ndaa-is-a-hoax-you-cant-legalize-tyranny/)?

First of all, signing statements are not law. Secondly, Title X, Subtitle D, entitled "Counter-Terrorism." In particular, sub-sections 1021 and 1022, which deal with detention of persons the government suspects of involvement in terrorism, have generated controversy as to their legal meaning and their potential implications for abuse of Presidential authority. Ultimately, this is for the courts to work out and they will. The patriot act has been watered down through the courts and this will too, in time.


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In my opinion, if Obama is really a lightworker, he could just speak out about what's rotten, could endorse Ron Paul and could wait for the bullet and/or some torture for him and his family. Our 3d lifetime is limited anyways, but doing a significant thing ripples out into infinity. If he is really concerned about the souls of his family, he should know, that they are immortal and that being a puppet for the cabal won't help them much. Being an instrument for murderous scumbags is torture already anyways.

But maybe there is a bigger plan in the works, that I just cannot fathom right now, I'm always glad to be proven an idiot if that goes along with an unexpected positive turn in the big picture...


You need to adjust your expectations for every light worker and especially the one who currently resides in the oval office. He is doing the best he can in spite of it not meeting your need for a superhero at the helm. Time will prove both Brockbrader and Obama to be one the side of the people. Of this I am very certain.

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[QUOTE=Fundy Gemini;483787]
Yes, people will rally around a good plan of action. One that makes a modicom of sense... do you have one?

I have a good plan, people taking back their dignity and self-responsibility and working together and stopping to be slaves of a ruthless cabal of murderers.

I don't see the majority of the people rallying yet though...

Although I believe in the things you mention, that is an ideology, not a plan. A plan is actionable and requires cooperation amongst many groups which seems to be an inherent part of "The Plan".

Vitalux
8th May 2012, 11:26
Bill Brockbrader's take on mass arrests

Speaking of arrests

Wasn't this the 25 yr old guy that was arrested and charged and convicted for raping a 12 year old girl?
Isn't this the same guy that is now on a National sex offenders list?
Wasn't this the same guy that served 10 years in a military prison mental ward?
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http://www.offendex.com/fullsize/67/13/6713bfbfc63209d89cc1b7993de77f50978c597b.jpg

Unless of course it was completely consensual sex with that child, and the police were out to get him:twitch:

StarDust
8th May 2012, 16:38
[QUOTE]Wasn't this the 25 yr old guy that was arrested and charged and convicted for raping a 12 year old girl?

It is clear that you have not heard his early interview with Kerry Cassidy. He goes into great detail how he was essentially framed by the US Military on trumped up charges to get him to play their game.

You don't need to believe him, but defaming his character is a ploy of the cabal and is not essential to the message of what is happening in this world and how we proceed forward within it.

I do acknowledge that if you prefer a myopic view of things, that is a valid choice that is most likely necessary for you on your path.

Alie
8th May 2012, 16:56
The whole political game is about DIVIDE & CONQUER it is just like baseball/football/soccer/ all sport teams/ dancing with the stars..etc... all pitted against each other to DIVIDE, & CONQUER!!

And that is all a rues, a sham, a game, to keep you controlled and laden down, divided. NOT UNITED!!!! Please stand in Unity not in division! And when you/we do we are victorious!!!!

Please stop judging anything as "right" or "wrong", "good' or "bad", "Heaven" or "Hell".. that is the big judgement that we need not judge!!! Judge NOT!!!!!

It's quite a challenge. Being unified, but still diverse. Not judging, but still making decisions. Trying to get it right when making an effort to fathom the realm beyond right and wrong...

I LOVE MUSICALS, THEATER, BEHIND THE SCENES footage. And it's the backstage stuff that we must remember here.

So, what makes these stories so entertaining? The characters. And it's the skilled actors who make it so that we can't tell their characters from their real self.

So unity could be that all of us souls just watch from behind the scenes as the play is unfolding. We can enjoy the characters .... they're fascinating, aren't they?

intruth
8th May 2012, 17:14
Stardust in #16 said:

In spite of how most people perceive it, the presidency is NOT a monolithic position and no presidential election has represented a true "choice" by the people since Kennedy was in office. JFK was a man of principle and look where that got him.

I was working in the White House when Vince Foster was found dead during Bill Clinton's first term as president. The "suicide," as it was reported, just didn't add up. My intuition at that time told me that it didn't pass the smell test and it became blatantly obvious to me that "the powers that be" within that institution had their own way of keeping those in line that might stray from the grand plan of the puppet master.

Although it is not apparent to outsiders, the office has become the ultimate puppet show by virtue of those who surround the president and have never run for office; yet have the ability to pull the strings of power. This aspect of our government is intentionally non-transparent.[

Well said! :nod:

Sunlite
8th May 2012, 18:02
I don't visit here often and never post but it seems to me that there are 2 divisions here, just like everything else in the 3rd dimension, and that is those who talk of conspiracy and our gloom and doom just over the horizon based on no facts except "insiders say." The other division is opposed to this saying Obama is good, ET's will at some point protect us, Truth (or the fairy Godmother) will prevail all based on channeling or those with psychic talents who "KNOW" things we cannot. Therefore neither camp has any proof and it all depends on where each one of you want to put your energy and "believe." Is anyone just changing themselves from within? If so would any of us have enemies or us against them? Who stops watching the gruesome movies put out or the crazy citcoms/reality shows?

Who stops watching CNN, or even coming here to take some space, eat well, walk in nature and begin to feel safe and let their own inner guidance speak to them?

I have said enough and I rest my case.

Sunlitre

ceetee9
8th May 2012, 18:09
You're assumption is based on the previous capacity of the cabal to steal elections by rigging them. This is how "W" was elected both times. This power was stripped away in 2006 and thus the 2008 election did not end up the way that "TPTB" intended. If so, Hillary Clinton would currently be president; as she was chosen due to her allegiance to the cabal and was the ONLY reason why Clinton won the New Hampshire primary that year.

The election of Obama was a surprise to TPTB and this is why he is still being pursued with regard to his legitimate right to be president via his birth certificate and other means. Most people are not aware, but the whole "birther" thing was started by Hillary Clinton's camp, not the republicans.With all due respect Stardust, please explain to me how TPTB were capable of rigging the Bush elections (and, no doubt, many other elections), but miraculously had their powers stripped away in 2006? Where's the proof? If TPTB have Hilary (the Clintons) in their pocket (and I don't doubt that they do), why would it be hard to believe that they couldn't have Obama in their pocket as well? It sounds to me like you believe TPTB are all (or mostly) conservatives. If that were the case why would we still be losing our rights and freedoms, continuing to stick our noses in more country's business, and be in far worse shape financially than we were before Obama took office? How would TPTB have the power to manipulate the President and our government and still give a damn who won the election?

Sunlite
8th May 2012, 19:04
Stardust,

Clinton did not win the election in NH...It was stolen! Dennis Kucinich paid for a recount, not because he lost but because he smelled a rat since Obama was ahead in the polls 13%. Even the exit polls were showing 13% and you could see how that suddenly went down. The CNN and MSNBC broadcasters were speechless and could not understand what happened. The only story they could conceive (or give publicly) was that her show of tears at a local cafe the previous day must have carried her.. How ridiculous was that. So, I followed the recount and the person who ran the machines was a felon, could not be found and neither could the memory card. It only takes 30 seconds to change the machine by the way. The ballot boxes had been ripped open (and this was shown) and then retaped on the voting machines with paper. The attorney general had an indictment sent to a political official, whose name now escapes me. Now, not one word of this was ever mentioned on any local or cable news station. Talk about TPTB covering their tracks!! I followed all of this and was quite enraged at the time of how they got away with this but of course unless you followed this as I did, it was not let out.....So Obama would have won but it was stolen. It was the Diebold machine systems owned by the republican party of a large corporation.
Sunlite

Fundy Gemini
8th May 2012, 20:16
Okay - this is getting VERY MUDDY now!

One would expect COINTEL but now that Brockbrader is telling folks Obama is 'good' and working with them. ... either he is telling truth, or has been comprimised. ...

Read This - The Psy-ops begins, and effectively so now with the Brockbrader bombshell -

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5923

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_USA/120504.Hagmann.warning.html
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Drake (not Brockbrader) needs to verify this Obama material and let us know.... I find it VERY SUSPICIOUS that somebody would suddenly deal with Brockbrader rather than Drake on this and ask him to put out the starement????

Drake was asked this question (below) in the more recent second audio from Freedom Reigns/Wolfspirit Radio Archive (I would recommend listening to both recordings in their entirety - there is more than enough "drama" occurring over on the other threads from listeners taking information out of context and twisting meanings ;)) he also addresses other questions raised in this thread):

2012-05-06B-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part2.mp3


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archive/download.php?id=Freedom_Reigns

At 28:50:

"Q. Can you clear up who Obama is: good guy or bad guy?

Drake: [Chuckles] ahhhh, he might be a "switcheroony"



I'm not taking anything out of context -
I have already listened to that interview, and heard what Drake said, and more importantly what he did not say.

What I am asking for is a clear statement from him that came from HIS OWN insiders, who can confirm the information, because quite frankly I don't trust it.

It doesn't add up that Brockbrader would suddenly be given information to pass on as a spokesman - rather than Drake? Further, Drake in previous interviews clearly was NOT an Obama supporter, so there is a disconnect.

WHY is this important?

Because if you actually check out the links I provided this whole movement is now being sold to the public as an Obma instigated NWO agenda, revolution! NOT exactly what we had in mind is it? Read it. ..

So yes, I'm confused!

I KNOW Drake, Brockbrader and all who are following are trying to do the right thing, but like I said, things are getting muddy. My feeling is that Brockbrader is being USED to plant disinfo in order to corroborate more disinfo (see below quoted material) -

Why create the confusion? to DIVIDE the take-over camp, to CONFUSE any troop support there might be, and to encourage an energetic & bloody resistence on the "arrest day" if it should actually get accomplished.

These people play dirty folks, why would you expect less? *IF* Obama was a good guy, WHY would he not continue to work quietly in the background to facilitate the peaceful take-back of the country, and then let you know about his involvement AFTER the fact?

Psy-ops? Double-con? Sting? I don't know, but to be ridiculed for wondering is a real disappointment, because to think this take-back would occur without any response or counterpoint from TPTB is insane.

- so read carefully, and then consider what damage has been caused by aligning the Drake material with Obama. ..

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5923



From article: Obama Re-election Revolution Style. ..

The planned end-game -

Does Obama look worried about the upcoming elections? Look at his lavish vacations, his limited work schedule, and those with whom he is working.  This is a very dangerous man who has, as his closest advisors, people who have orchestrated the revolutions of the 1960′s.

They know the “trigger points” in  America.

The Obama administration, including his czars and along with his closest Progressive supporters, are planning a manufactured insurgency against America.

He is using the media to his advantage to garner both sympathy and support for his unfinished goals. He is desperately seeking a way to remain in office, even if it means the surreal prospect of an indefinite postponement of elections – if it can be pulled off.

So far, he’s got the support of the majority of the DHS “brass” behind him, according to my source. “They’re power hungry, and they want to remain in charge,” stated this source.

The “surreal” aspect of suspended elections won’t look so surreal when you see any or all of the “trigger points” take place in the not-so-distant future. “The end-game plan for America is its destruction as a Constitutional Republic, with the assistance of the agencies under the umbrella of the DHS.”

My source stated one more thing that seemed to tie things together. He urged me to recall the quote by made by Henry Kissinger who was speaking at a Bilderberg meeting at Evian, France, on 21 May 1992:

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

That threat need not be from beyond. All it might take is a world of starving, broke and desperate people.

StarDust
8th May 2012, 21:04
[QUOTE]Clinton did not win the election in NH...It was stolen!


You misinterpreted what I was saying, as that was my point. It represented the last time an election (albeit a primary) was stolen on the side of the Dems by the hand of the cabal. This glitch resulted in Clinton's fake win in the N.H. primary. It was a slip up by 'liberation forces' but did not cause irreparable harm since Obama finally won in a fair election.

What I didn't touch on was how. Off Planet resources were utilized to help correct this issue, which is why the Repubs. were shocked at the result of the 2006 election. The 2006 election cycle was a landslide that was not expected by the cabal.

StarDust
8th May 2012, 21:15
[QUOTE]...and Finally Kimberely & StarDust


It's not about "Hope" and "Change." It's about reading energies and not getting caught up in perception which is manipulated to suit your ideological prism. I'm not here to defend any politician, just here to advance the movement for a new paradigm.

Maia Gabrial
8th May 2012, 21:25
Note;
A strange sound coming from the videos.

The noise was VERY annoying!
I'm not sure what to think about Brockbrader anymore.... However, I do understand how discrediting someone works as a means to prevent them from getting the truth out.....

Vitalux
8th May 2012, 22:27
[QUOTE]Wasn't this the 25 yr old guy that was arrested and charged and convicted for raping a 12 year old girl?

It is clear that you have not heard his early interview with Kerry Cassidy. He goes into great detail how he was essentially framed by the US Military on trumped up charges to get him to play their game.

You don't need to believe him, but defaming his character is a ploy of the cabal and is not essential to the message of what is happening in this world and how we proceed forward within it.

I do acknowledge that if you prefer a myopic view of things, that is a valid choice that is most likely necessary for you on your path.

Please bear in mind, that I am actually coming out like this in Avalon to serve as a vehicle to others, that one should not be crucified by other members when one points out the obvious truth.

I do care very deeply about this community and respect it's membership.

It is not a very good thing for any community forum if there is no allowance for people to speak the truth as we perceive it.

The early postings was made based on facts and truths.
Just because it bothers you to read or hear the truth, should not reflect on others to speak about it.

I hope this community never exist on only being able to say, what others only want to hear.

After all, isn't that human characteristic of " Only wanting to hear, what we want to hear" part of the problem that has caused the world so much pain, suffering, corruption and division?

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSA1RPVlqFaoQGxzA_klFOnAJb1gGh82WQqYavztg3htLSszlv5

Rantaak
8th May 2012, 23:09
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlDVRQIgAVw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmHeUtPYII
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o42OMkniiXY
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SUpcSlwkrI
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdNEJ0vX1Nk
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4JYIprFRPY
(overall length: 1h 22min)

The bullet points:

Obama is a good guy at heart but gets sabotaged by powerful interests around him, soon Obama will speak in favor of mass arrests publicly, the initial arenas for that will be the G8 summit in Camp David (May 18-19) and the NATO summit in Chicago (May 20-21)
NDAA (http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-ndaa-signing-statement-i-have-the-power-to-detain-americans-but-i-wont/) is there to have a legal basis for the military to conduct the mass arrests -- of the cabal
The National Defense Resource Preparedness Act (http://www.infowars.com/martial-law-obama-issues-executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness/) is there so there will be no chaos in the public infrastructure during the mass-arrests -- nevertheless he says be prepared, because basic amenities might not be available for some time
US joining the ICC again (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/03/obama-rejoins-icc-us-no-longer-rogue-state/) makes the liens lawsuit (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1047-liens) from Neil Keenan against the Federal Reserve a success
The list of people to be arrested is full of suprises when it comes to who's on it and who's not on it
What happens with the next US elections is something nobody will expect



What a peculiar perspective. He's also sending a message of support to Drake, whom he obviously sympathizes with, but Drake did not make similar statements about Obama and the tyrannical legislation in the NDAA and NDRPA, did he? Right now I see no evidence, that would support Bill's claims, apart from channelings from the Galactic Federation of Light etc., that since a long time said, that Obama is indeed a blessing for humanity. We'll see what happens on the NATO and G8 summit and if Bill Brockbrader is being mind-controlled and/or fed disinfo.

:yo:

Indeed, we shall see. My trust for Brockbrader is long gone, though I find that these bullet points resonate well with me. A possibly related tangent: these announcements appear to be happening around the time of a solar eclipse (May 20).

Oh well. My opinion is that the pyramid must inevitably become a cube.

KiwiElf
8th May 2012, 23:25
Note;
A strange sound coming from the videos.

The noise was VERY annoying!
I'm not sure what to think about Brockbrader anymore.... However, I do understand how discrediting someone works as a means to prevent them from getting the truth out.....

The "sounds" reminded me of the beeps & bleeps from the bridge of the ENTERPRISE in the original STAR TREK ;)

StarDust
9th May 2012, 00:48
[QUOTE]Please bear in mind, that I am actually coming out like this in Avalon to serve as a vehicle to others, that one should not be crucified by other members when one points out the obvious truth.

I do care very deeply about this community and respect it's membership.

It is not a very good thing for any community forum if there is no allowance for people to speak the truth as we perceive it.

The early postings was made based on facts and truths.
Just because it bothers you to read or hear the truth, should not reflect on others to speak about it.

I hope this community never exist on only being able to say, what others only want to hear.

You are welcome to your opinion, but there is nothing obvious about your truths and they certainly do not bother me. If you wish to be distracted by what is essentially trivial information, then that is your choice. This is not about you or the degree to which you you care for your community. My only concern is for the the evolution of people on this planet in its totality. Sidetracking this thread with your character issues with a single man is a moot point from my perspective. You are welcome to shoot the messenger, but that does not weaken the message.

StarDust
9th May 2012, 01:02
Darn I wish all you guys/gals could get it.... The whole political game is about DIVIDE & CONQUER it is just like baseball/football/soccer/ all sport teams/ dancing with the stars..etc... all pitted against each other to DIVIDE, & CONQUER!!

And that is all a rues, a sham, a game, to keep you controlled and laden down, divided. NOT UNITED!!!! Please stand in Unity not in division! And when you/we do we are victorious!!!!

Please stop judging anything as "right" or "wrong", "good' or "bad", "Heaven" or "Hell".. that is the big judgement that we need not judge!!! Judge NOT!!!!!

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

Precisely! However, I do acknowledge the usefulness/need for polarity within 3rd density and its requirement for learning. What most don't realize or can't fathom at this point is that is is no longer a useful paradigm as Gaia progresses into her new state of consciousness. This is why I don't generally waste my time with politics these days; after studying the topic for many thousands of hours over a 20 year period. The new paradigm will deliver real leaders who are transparent and accountable to "We, the People." No understanding of this process is required as time will reveal this as the new way that peaceful people govern themselves. Although the pro/anti Obama camps make for good debate, it's really important to absolutely NOTHING moving forward.

the_vast_mystery
9th May 2012, 01:59
Please bear in mind, that I am actually coming out like this in Avalon to serve as a vehicle to others, that one should not be crucified by other members when one points out the obvious truth.

Serve what, serve whom, serve how? Do you like spouting vague platitudes hoping it will engender people to you? Do you think that was being crucified? Obvious truth? According to whom and how? Do you have, you know, this thing called evidence which would actually make what you say true and not just your own interpretation of Bill's interview?


I do care very deeply about this community and respect it's membership.

Obviously not enough to do your own due diligence and research what you were saying and provide proof before making a very poor attempt at character assassination. Not to say that Bill Wood's testimony by itself means an awful lot, but your testimony as an anonymous person on the internet means even less than that. And yet you proclaim you're here to serve the community? By doing what? Posting a sympathy image of a little girl and Bill Wood together in hopes that people will subconsciously make some sort of molester connection and therefore distrust, what, just about everything he's said?


It is not a very good thing for any community forum if there is no allowance for people to speak the truth as we perceive it.

You are ABSOLUTELY allowed to, and I am allowed to within the rules challenge what you say as well. No, you don't get to say "Hey look guys, he's a pedophile!!11" and face no challenge anymore than I am free to say there's some vast Jewish conspiracy that's keeping Germany down (Hint: Rhetoric that led to WWII, in short, no, unsubstantiated rumors should never be allowed to go unchallenged as it creates a toxic social environment that can be violent and hostile to our fellow human beings when they have not actually done anything wrong.)


The early postings was made based on facts and truths.
Just because it bothers you to read or hear the truth, should not reflect on others to speak about it.

Just because you say it is the truth does not make it the truth. You are typing words into a computer which are being read by other human beings. You have established in no certain way why you are correct or why word one from your keyboard should be trusted anymore beyond the next person. Truth can be personal in that it can reflect personal meanings we assign to things in life but there is absolutely a more objective level that governs how the Truth operates otherwise we would not have modern science. So what you're doing right now? You're making a bunch of vague mystical sounding statements in hopes that by appealing to the climate here that people will innately trust you without verifying anything you say or do. This combined with the fact that you posted the sympathy image of that little girl, which you might not be aware of it but yes that is all about subliminal messaging...tends to indicate you're making a post pretty clearly to advocate for your own point of view.

Everyone's entitled to do this, but please, please do not feign that this is somehow a service being rendered nor that you are in any way shape or form a representative of some objective truth. You are a person making a claim, the only reason Bill has even a little more credibility than you (Hint: he's not doing so well right now either) is because he was willing to reveal his full identity and face on Camera for multiple interviews. This at least shows he's serious about what he believes if he's willing to put that much out there. You on the other hand are coming to the table with even less than him; which especially if you are somehow in the know of the "Truth" then you should easily be able to produce court documentation verifying what you're saying. Yet instead you post a couple of images and a pretty cheap shot commentary meant to drive home what you want people to believe. This does not exactly make for a sparkling record as far as you being who you say you are. ;)


I hope this community never exist on only being able to say, what others only want to hear.

After all, isn't that human characteristic of " Only wanting to hear, what we want to hear" part of the problem that has caused the world so much pain, suffering, corruption and division?

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSA1RPVlqFaoQGxzA_klFOnAJb1gGh82WQqYavztg3htLSszlv5

No, you're not getting it. Repeating a rumor is not spreading the truth, it is repeating a rumor in hopes people will believe it is true. "The Truth" requires supporting evidence for it to be true and repeating a rumor is all about manipulating people into supporting you and your beliefs. You good sir/madame, are projecting and not too skillfully either. Now, notice how everything I've said is in regards to how you presented your argument inside your post? It may in fact be true that Bill Brockbrader did do something horrible, but without providing even a shred of credible evidence you are doing worse than adding nothing to the discussion you are poisoning the well (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html) and making it that much harder for anyone else to talk about anything meaningful now that you've dragged the specter of pedophilia into the discussion for no other reason than (You got a good feeling he's a pedo!) You do realize people have died because of such false accusations?

Your choice of words should reflect your actions, in this case I recommend considering the way you presented yourself to avoid this sort of situation in the future if it bothers you. ^_^ P.S. this is not me crucifying you, this is me pointing out how your entire post makes no rational sense, me crucifying you would be a lot longer and contain more than a few curses.

sygh
9th May 2012, 02:14
Ha-hummm.... have you been here for the last 2-3 years? Snap outta it. Unbelieveable. Nope, nada chance. Zero. Ziltch. Will ya vote for him now that he is "possibly" a switch-hitter? Come on.
So let me get this straight, Obama is gonna over-throw himself? NO, he's gonna go after the bad guys. Just went back and looked at some of the words he used to get elected. One of those words was... "UNITY". Ummmm... I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, I was thrilled to see a black American finally become the President of the United States. I'm just sorry he's torn the US apart like he has. And before you say something to me about the Republicans having something to do with that... ummm yup, I agree.

No. no way.

Darn I wish all you guys/gals could get it.... The whole political game is about DIVIDE & CONQUER it is just like baseball/football/soccer/ all sport teams/ dancing with the stars..etc... all pitted against each other to DIVIDE, & CONQUER!!

And that is all a rues, a sham, a game, to keep you controlled and laden down, divided. NOT UNITED!!!! Please stand in Unity not in division! And when you/we do we are victorious!!!!

Please stop judging anything as "right" or "wrong", "good' or "bad", "Heaven" or "Hell".. that is the big judgement that we need not judge!!! Judge NOT!!!!!

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

Did I not say that in my post? Divide and conquer. Yes, it IS all part of the political game. 9-11 and the never ending "War of Terror" stands out as a gaping example of such. Order out of Chaos, bla, bla, bla, Oh, I more than get it. Obama has not brought us together; he has divided the nation. Black against white, rich against poor, men against women, etc... and he is the front man for those who reqlly hold the power, etc, etc, etc... is Obama's birth certificate real, is he Muslim, is he a communist, etc... bla, bla, bla... And is he doing all of this? No. Is he a Free Mason, yes. I see it every day.

Are ya gonna be a part of it, or not? Are ya gonna play or, are you not gonna play? Not going to play. OK. Not playing is playing. Gotta have TP, gotta have beans and rice. Gotta have clothes. Bought anything recently? Got an IPod? Eating GMOs or growing your own?

No offense, before you jump, read. Now, I too could say something that makes everyone feel good like it's all going to work out sooner or later, and so I did. Honestly, mother earth will probably have more to say in that matter than either Drake, or Ben.

I am well aware this was planned. And as far as I'm concerned, unless we start restoring our natural resources, because I've lived long enough to know what happened to them, IMHO, we're screwed.

StarDust
9th May 2012, 02:23
the_vast_mystery,

Well stated rebuttal to Vitalux's arguments.

WhiteFeather
9th May 2012, 11:59
Obama is just a school hall monitor peeps. The 27 layers above him call all the shots. Hope this helps.

He is still the mouth piece. He could decide to do something noble and act for American's rights and freedoms, but he does not. He is making money, he is living the life of a king, and he has no plans of standing up to his owners. Why would anyone re-elect him when they could vote for Ron Paul?

When Obama was sworn in to office. He got the special conversation from the upper layers who are in control. Thats why puppets dont speak. Hope this helps. Unified S.

jackovesk
9th May 2012, 12:52
...and Finally Kimberely & StarDust


It's not about "Hope" and "Change." It's about reading energies and not getting caught up in perception which is manipulated to suit your ideological prism. I'm not here to defend any politician, just here to advance the movement for a new paradigm.

What a Load of Absolute "StarDust"....

Please feel free to read this nonsense again...


It's about reading energies and not getting caught up in perception which is manipulated to suit your ideological prism

New Paradigm, what New Paradigm...?

The only thing the World needs, is the 'Truth'..!

Spirituality = Truth & Truth = Spirituality

Ideological Prism..? :pound:

Wrap your mind around that one StarDust...:)

Maia Gabrial
9th May 2012, 14:24
The "sounds" reminded me of the beeps & bleeps from the bridge of the ENTERPRISE in the original STAR TREK

It did kind of sound like that, but it reminded me more of a frequency that affects the dna....

9eagle9
9th May 2012, 15:53
The Theophysical Societies downward spiral in the last half century can be firmly placed on the power of New Age bull**** as pumped out by the ptb and otherwise maintained by the sheeple who lap it up.

Used to be a source of thoughtful philosophy and esoteria, granted there's some real odd balls and questionable personalities in the mix.

Now it's different.

9eagle9
9th May 2012, 16:05
Brief Commercial Interruption and a bit of a poll for a moment of truthful and authentic (if not seemly) self reflection....

Ever read the posts in threads like these and find yourself thinking "Omg are you about a dumb b**ch or dumb B*ast*rd, or what?" as you read through the some responses?

(raises hand in silent confession)

Since this whole Wilcocks, Drake, Bill & Bill & Ben (on Capitol Hill) horse and pony show started that sort of expression (although mostly unexpressed) has become like a daily inner mantra for me and I find it discouraging.

Dis-Courage.

En-Courage

What interesting words.

So with that....

carry on.

StarDust
9th May 2012, 18:06
[QUOTE]New Paradigm, what New Paradigm...?

The new paradigm that is the connected to the evolution of 4th Density Gaia expanding consciousness for ALL her inhabitants that will tap into intelligent infinity and permit Gaia (and her inhabitants) a rightful place as a galactic citizen; an event that is so singularly unique that beings from across the multiverse/planes/realms/etc. have come forward to watch as this unfolds.

This represents the PRIMARY reason why 3rd Density earth has not experienced the negative path. This, in turn, has paved the way for light forces to help reclaim the earth for her people; so they can reconnect with their devine natures and grow as sovereign people within the galactic community. In turn, it has also paved the road for "The Plan" and permitted good people like Drake/Wilcock/Kettler/etc. to take their roles as spokespeople for the new paradigm.

If you can't see that unfolding, then you have yet to open your eyes!

Until you step out of YOUR OWN TRUTH and realize that it IS NOT universal, you will never see the big picture until it is upon you. Stay within the political quagmire if you wish. It is a valid choice if you deem it necessary for your own growth.

As I stated, I'm not here to defend any politician. Based on your highly charged emotional response, it is evident that you have much skin in that game which represents your ideological prism; since you have gone to great lengths to pictorialize your political ideology. Posting pictures that demonstrate your fear is self disempowerment by providing those thought forms a shared reality by agreement. In this case, the pictures you've posted speak 1,000 words as a direct reflection of self.



[QUOTE]Spirituality = Truth & Truth = Spirituality


Did you get that one out of a fortune cookie?


For those who have actually been paying attention in class...

YOUR Truth = YOUR Perspective = YOUR Shared Reality & Spirituality is merely a path of discovery to regain the understanding of The LAW of ONE!

nMPXlyliLYM

Wrap your head around that!

Jeffrey
9th May 2012, 18:36
The Theophysical Societies downward spiral in the last half century can be firmly placed on the power of New Age bull**** as pumped out by the ptb and otherwise maintained by the sheeple who lap it up.

Used to be a source of thoughtful philosophy and esoteria, granted there's some real odd balls and questionable personalities in the mix.

Now it's different.

John Dee, Crowley, Blavastky/Bailey, and look this one up - James Hurtak ... New Age propaganda is a poisonous rose.

MIMICRY --> looks good, smells good, "resonates" <-- WHAT IS TELLING YOU THAT?

People CRAVE McDonalds.

Hearts resonate and stomachs grumble.

DECEPTION IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

People eat it up, and ASK FOR MORE.

The parasite wants more, the program wants more.

TALK ABOUT A TRAP.

The conspiracy IS the conspiracy.

9eagle9
9th May 2012, 18:44
It is a means of educating yourself as to what is going on , how it is achieved, and what to look out for.

I never said it was a belief system that someone had to adhere by or excused it as harmless. It's a source of information. good, bad or indifferent.

Know your enemy.

The new age bull**** blurred that sort of information, either revering it to the point where certain topics became a sort of belief system or vilifying it to the point that people were not inclined to educate themselves.

Oooo don't talk about the Theophysical Society its dawk.

Knowing what one may percieve of as dark is more illuminating than being blinded by the light.



The Theophysical Societies downward spiral in the last half century can be firmly placed on the power of New Age bull**** as pumped out by the ptb and otherwise maintained by the sheeple who lap it up.

Used to be a source of thoughtful philosophy and esoteria, granted there's some real odd balls and questionable personalities in the mix.

Now it's different.

John Dee, Crowley, Blavastky/Bailey, and look this one up - James Hurtak ... New Age propaganda is a poisonous rose.

MIMICRY -- looks good, smells good, "resonates" -- WHAT IS TELLING YOU THAT?

People CRAVE McDonalds.

Hearts resonate and stomachs grumble.

DECEPTION IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

People eat it up, and ASK FOR MORE.

The parasite wants more, the program wants more.

TALK ABOUT A TRAP.

The conspiracy IS the conspiracy.

jackovesk
10th May 2012, 01:56
New Paradigm, what New Paradigm...?

The new paradigm that is the connected to the evolution of 4th Density Gaia expanding consciousness for ALL her inhabitants that will tap into intelligent infinity and permit Gaia (and her inhabitants) a rightful place as a galactic citizen; an event that is so singularly unique that beings from across the multiverse/planes/realms/etc. have come forward to watch as this unfolds.

This represents the PRIMARY reason why 3rd Density earth has not experienced the negative path. This, in turn, has paved the way for light forces to help reclaim the earth for her people; so they can reconnect with their devine natures and grow as sovereign people within the galactic community. In turn, it has also paved the road for "The Plan" and permitted good people like Drake/Wilcock/Kettler/etc. to take their roles as spokespeople for the new paradigm.

If you can't see that unfolding, then you have yet to open your eyes!

Until you step out of YOUR OWN TRUTH and realize that it IS NOT universal, you will never see the big picture until it is upon you. Stay within the political quagmire if you wish. It is a valid choice if you deem it necessary for your own growth.

As I stated, I'm not here to defend any politician. Based on your highly charged emotional response, it is evident that you have much skin in that game which represents your ideological prism; since you have gone to great lengths to pictorialize your political ideology. Posting pictures that demonstrate your fear is self disempowerment by providing those thought forms a shared reality by agreement. In this case, the pictures you've posted speak 1,000 words as a direct reflection of self.




Spirituality = Truth & Truth = Spirituality


Did you get that one out of a fortune cookie?


For those who have actually been paying attention in class...

YOUR Truth = YOUR Perspective = YOUR Shared Reality & Spirituality is merely a path of discovery to regain the understanding of The LAW of ONE!

nMPXlyliLYM

Wrap your head around that!

You 'New Age' types always love to overcomplicate things with (Gobble-De-Gook)...:faint:

Whereas, if you were as Spiritual as you would lead others to believe, you would of totally understood the point in my own words I was trying to convey...

Spirituality = Truth & Truth = Spirituality


Based on your highly charged emotional response, it is evident that you have much skin in that game which represents your ideological prism; since you have gone to great lengths to pictorialize your political ideology. Posting pictures that demonstrate your fear is self disempowerment by providing those thought forms a shared reality by agreement. In this case, the pictures you've posted speak 1,000 words as a direct reflection of self.

What I really dislike is people whose Ego allows them to be all 'High & Mighty' and try to pigeon hole others without even bothering to understand them and/or rationalising their POV..!

If you were as Spiritually evolved as you let on, you would have understood that..!

As for your Ego trying to pass off the 'Fear' concept onto another, IMHO just proves it...:yes4:

...and reminds me of an Evangelical Preacher who is more concerned about the Doctrine rather than the 'Truth'...

New Age rhetoric is nothing more than 'Group Speak'..!

When you get closer to understanding 'True Spirituality' the conversation may evolve...

Until then, I'll leave you to it...:)

UnrealDreams
10th May 2012, 02:06
What a peculiar perspective. He's also sending a message of support to Drake, whom he obviously sympathizes with, but Drake did not make similar statements about Obama and the tyrannical legislation in the NDAA and NDRPA, did he? Right now I see no evidence, that would support Bill's claims, apart from channelings from the Galactic Federation of Light etc., that since a long time said, that Obama is indeed a blessing for humanity. We'll see what happens on the NATO and G8 summit and if Bill Brockbrader is being mind-controlled and/or fed disinfo.

:yo:

Thanks for this Christian. I just want to say that anyone channeling the GFOL should beware of deception. That is my message.

StarDust
10th May 2012, 03:06
jackovesk,

Salamat Gajun! Selamat Ja!