PSCINET Updates

[kk4aei]

Per the request of one of the Avalon admin blokes, a new thread is made available for updates in lieu of PMs, aside from updates posted external to this forum at http://pscinet2012.blogspot.com and other web sites.

More to follow as the availability of additional information and analysis dictates. One item that shall be put to rest NOW is the rumor about high level politicians being arrested in D.C...

FALSE.

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AT THIS POINT, DIVINE INTERVENTION THROUGH US IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AHEAD STRATEGY TO IMPLEMENT...WE NEED TO "PRAY EMPOWERMENT" TO THOSE INVOLVED FOR THIS INITIATIVE TO SUCCEED. WE WILL JOIN THE FREEDOM REPUBLIC CALL ON FRIDAY TO INITIATE A PRAYER/MEDITATION/FASTING VIGIL UNTIL THIS SPIRITUAL DEADLOCK IS BROKEN ONCE AND FOR ALL.

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UPDATE 2012-05-10 @ 1:20 p.m.: SOURCE MENTIONED BELOW WAS INVALIDATED...TO DATE, NO SOLID CONFIRMATION THAT THE DOCUMENTATION TO REESTABLISH A FREE REPUBLIC IS WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

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UPDATE 2012-05-10 @ 12:20 p.m.: SOURCE INDEPENDENT OF DRAKE AND FREEDOM REIGNS IS STATING THAT DOCUMENTATION WAS IN FACT RECEIVED BY THE HAGUE AND A COPY IS IN THE RIGHT HANDS ON OUR SIDE OF THE POND...MORE TO FOLLOW.

THE WHOLE SITUATION IS RATHER SQUISHY TO BE BLUNT. NO PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL'S STORY HAS BEEN CONSISTENT SINCE THIS DRAMA BEGAN TO UNFOLD A FEW WEEKS AGO...WHETHER THAT'S BY DESIGN OR BY MISTAKE IS UNKNOWN. UNKNOWNS ARE PILING UP ON TOP OF UNKNOWNS. NOT HELPFUL...THIS CONFUSION IS LIKELY INTENTIONAL BY ONE OR MORE OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

Best timeline available based on current info is a global market collapse beginning in the July-August timeframe (it doesn't happen overnight...) with the collapse of the derivates market as the trigger, by design, based on internal bankster memos dating from at least 30-35 years ago. Global market collapse is to be followed by an uptick in chaos resulting from the cost of living going through the roof, beginning in earnest in the September-October timeframe. Major disclosures/arrests will rachet up during the same period, with a tipping point expected sometime around the end of the year. Disruptions in infrastructure may begin as early as October, the severity of which (or lack thereof) remains indeterminate...depends on how well people organize between now and then. The Middle East will destabilize in the September-October timeframe, prior to 2012 elections. The degree of instability remains indeterminate.

Nothing major is expected to transpire between now and the end of June...otherwise, our contacts would be strapping it up for gameday as we speak. They're not...sorry.

As far as major Earth changes are concerned, keep an eye on the magnetometer readings available at the bottom of http://pscinet2012.blogspot.com. Some sort of magnetic excursion is expected within the next 12 months. Backup web sites are http://psci2012.blogspot.com and http://kk4aei.blogspot.com. If all Google sites crash, then we'll post daily updates on forums and Facebook...assuming forum access is available at a time Google servers are down, which is unlikely, as it would take a MAJOR disruption to knock Google offline.

Our network was independently tracking longitudinal energy decline until late summer 2011. Right before it dropped below EM field levels (when it became 'hidden in the noise'), there was significant disruption in readings from one day to the next. It was at that time that the entire planet experienced a quantum shift...basically a hard reset from a quantum perspective, which is why events that were expected to transpire since last summer have NOT transpired. There are instances where these events did not transpire as expected since last summer. Specifically, WWIII did not occur around the end of last year as predicted, and a couple items in February did not transpire. For all practical purposes, we might as well be on a different planet now...pretty much EVERYTHING has shifted.

There is a government already in place, one that humanity will become aligned to as we collectively evolve beyond our current state. The arrival of Superconsciousness may transpire as early as 2017. It is this manifestation of Consciousness that was never identified using the time portal technologies, primarily because they were looking in the wrong direction; however, no matter where they observed, it would have been impossible to "see" our inevitable outcome...which was by Intelligent Design.

Any technology that utilized longitudinal energy had a 'blind spot' from mid-2011 to mid-2013 due to the decline and null in longitudinal energy during that timeframe.

Stockpile emergency supplies that can be consumed in the event that this whole 2012 scenario is a false alarm (which it's not...). That way you won't feel stupid as you're emptying your piggy bank to buy emergency supplies now when consumable and other emergency items are still affordable. Having some silver coins on hand wouldn't hurt, either. Silver is under $30/ounce this week. Go to www.gainesvillecoins.com for the best deals on silver. Gold is difficult to barter with...better stick to silver.

"PSCINET" stands for Potomac Sustainable Communities Initiative Network, or Potomac Spiritual Consciousness Initiative Network...or nothing at all. It's not an official organization, just a name coined to a group of people who talk to each other...some frequently, some infrequently. Member(s) of PSCINET can be found on occasion in the Avalon chat room and on Facebook.

From a trusted colleague (message received ~2 weeks ago):
Impression from yesterday's brief for the visiting Deputy Secty DHS: the entire world is a marketplace for the "American Way of Life" (by their typical militaristic mindset definition) and hubristically, it's our way or the highway. And there's no evidence of an awakening to the fact that (if we're going to play by the rules we ourselves say or pretend are important) we're busted and have got to pull in our horns. I saw this in an article earlier in the week: that a foreign policy advisor of Romney's, Richard Williamson, said "The world is better off when the U.S. takes the lead. We should not be playing 'Mother May I?' about sanctions on Iran and relations with China and Russia." This guy "..has held myriad diplomatic (sic) posts in past GOP administrations." Coercive big-headedness of this magnitude is unhealthily out of touch with the world today and we will suffer in the reckoning if these (explicative) continue to be given rein. But at this point, perhaps the only question is: tilt at windmills like Don Quixote or, Candide-like, find some out of the way place in which to keep one's head down?

We are supportive of the efforts of Drake Bailey & crew, Kerry Cassidy & crew, Bill Ryan & crew, David Wilcock & crew, Bill Brockbrader & crew, Steven Greer & crew, Lindsey Williams & crew, James Gilliland & crew, Drunvalo Melchizedek & crew, Miriam Delicado & crew - whoever it is that you identify as providing valid, helpful information to the public that will result in the upliftment of the masses over the next 12 months. Nobody gets it right all the time. Nobody is perfect. Treat people as you would like to be treated, as if it were a special holy day where respect is expected. Treat people as if they were members of your own family, because they are...even if they're screwing everything up. They're still family...however, with that said, it is not recommended to place any particular individual on a pedestal.

Consider the content in these updates as no more than 80% correct at any given time. Please provide as much information as possible when discussing relevant issues, in order to help fellow forum members conduct their own independent research. These PSCINET updates are the best representation that our group is capable of providing of what is happening in real time behind the scenes. The author of today's content does not officially represent any group or serve as its spokesperson. Forum feedback will be used to help clarify and correct future updates. This is not an anonymous post. If you want to know more details beyond what is posted, call Nora at 202-905-0530 (Skype pscinet) after 4 p.m. EST weekdays, or anytime on the weekend. You would think posting personal information is a crazy thing to do, but we are astonished at how few people followup to independently investigate this information. Additional contacts can also be provided upon request, depending on the situation under inquiry. We are just a group of people like you. Collectively, humanity has all the answers we need to move forward. It is recommended to organize your own groups in order to validate/invalidate this and other content, rather than take anything on faith. It takes a lot of hard work to see things as they are, in order to know what to do and what not to do, but it's worth the effort.

While members of the Avalon forum have presented many intelligent issues and arguments in an impressive fashion, the emotional element remains too much of a distraction. Therefore, no public responses to PSCINET posts will be made from this kk4aei account, only PMs and phone calls upon request.

As an aside, the avatar for the 'kk4aei' handle is a picture of the yacht America. We threw together a fun little 12 minute video about freedom - go to http://wonksmedia.com/ to watch - web site still under construction.

[kk4aei]

This is a separate post because ET stuff cannot be independently validated through conventional channels. One colleague recently mentioned how her ET contact stated how there is the possibility of a download of information to people in order to expedite the awakening of the masses, in the event that a shot in the arm is necessary for humanity to remain on a positive timeline. The downside to this approach is that there will be a small fraction who become "psychological casualties" as a result - those who simply cannot adapt to the new knowledge instilled to them. The ETs are just giving people the truth about their origin and how we fit into the big picture in the universe...but for some, that will be too much to handle.

Based on the previous PSCINET post regarding the freedom initiative, it is more likely than not that rather extreme measures will have to be taken. Our colleague provided this information prior to reading the book, ET 101, which outlines this scenario. See http://www.et101.net/ to review the contents of this ~20 year old book.

Just when it seems that all is lost, some stunt like this 'ET data dump' will turn the tide...and this is not the only trick in the bag of tricks the ETs have up their etheral sleeves, as suggested by other web sites that also discuss ET related matters. This will be one of many posts regarding ET activities, and will remain separate from the 'conventional' content posted above since this content is pretty much impossible to independently validate.

We are considering scheduling an ET contact event an hour or so outside L.A. during the first week of June, and a second ET contact event about four hours from D.C. the week of July 4th. Interested parties can contact us via email at kk4aei@wonksmedia.com or via the contact information provided in the initial PSCINET post for more information and to participate. Both gatherings will be free of charge...an excellent opportunity to discuss various topics from the forum. These two events are similar to what is described online at www.eceti.org and www.cseti.org.

We do not expect a significant uptick in large-scale ET contact events until the latter part of 2012, aside from the unique scenario mentioned in the first paragraph of this post.

[kk4aei]

Democracy Is Self-Government...a must read:

http://www.word-foundation.org/PDF/DISG.pdf

[kk4aei]

PLEASE EMBED THIS VIDEO OF INELIA BENZ INTO SOME OF THE AVALON THREADS:

https://vimeo.com/41953359/


http://vimeo.com/41953359/

THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT IN THE U.S. IS HINDERED BY FEAR AND IGNORANCE...THIS SIMPLE MEDITATION EXERCISE SOLVES THE FEAR PART OF THE EQUATION.

Fear is the fuel that drives the forces that prevent people from becoming empowered, and is compromising the freedom movement. Prayer and meditation are required to overcome darkness.

[EnergyGardener]

kk4AEI

Thank you for your service.:usa2:

[kk4aei]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Even as the Air Force searches for the reason pilots are getting sick flying the F-22, a new mystery about the troubled stealth fighter jet has come to light: Why are mechanics on the ground getting sick in the plane as well?

The Air Force has been looking into a number of reports that pilots experienced "hypoxia-like symptoms" aboard F-22s since April 2008. Hypoxia is oxygen deficiency.

The Air Force reports 25 cases of such systems, including 11 since September, when the service cleared the F-22 fleet to return to flight after a four-month grounding.

The fleet was grounded in May 2011 so the service could check the hypoxia reports, but the order was lifted in September under a "return to fly" plan, with equipment modifications and new rules including daily inspections of the life-support systems.

"Early on in the return to fly we had five maintainers that reported hypoxia symptoms," Gen. Daniel Wyman, command surgeon for the Air Combat Command.

The maintainers are mechanics on the F-22's ground crews who sometimes have to be in the cockpit while the jet's engine is doing a ground run.

"The maintainers, when they are doing their ground run, are not on the mask, they are in the cockpit," Wyman said.

The problem with maintainers getting sick while on the ground throws a wrench into some of the theories about why at least 25 pilots have suffered hypoxia symptoms.

Sunday, two F-22 pilots told CBS's "60 Minutes" that they would not fly the jet any more.

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Quantum resonance based technologies can transmutate virtually any material into any other material or into energy. This is somehow being applied to the space around aircraft, such that oxygen is being transmuted into some other airy substance...makes it hard for military personnel to breathe, apparently affecting their ability to engage in combat.

Welcome to 2012...

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Even as the Air Force searches for the reason pilots are getting sick flying the F-22, a new mystery about the troubled stealth fighter jet has come to light: Why are mechanics on the ground getting sick in the plane as well?

The Air Force has been looking into a number of reports that pilots experienced "hypoxia-like symptoms" aboard F-22s since April 2008. Hypoxia is oxygen deficiency.

The Air Force reports 25 cases of such systems, including 11 since September, when the service cleared the F-22 fleet to return to flight after a four-month grounding.

The fleet was grounded in May 2011 so the service could check the hypoxia reports, but the order was lifted in September under a "return to fly" plan, with equipment modifications and new rules including daily inspections of the life-support systems.

"Early on in the return to fly we had five maintainers that reported hypoxia symptoms," Gen. Daniel Wyman, command surgeon for the Air Combat Command.

The maintainers are mechanics on the F-22's ground crews who sometimes have to be in the cockpit while the jet's engine is doing a ground run.

"The maintainers, when they are doing their ground run, are not on the mask, they are in the cockpit," Wyman said.

The problem with maintainers getting sick while on the ground throws a wrench into some of the theories about why at least 25 pilots have suffered hypoxia symptoms.

Sunday, two F-22 pilots told CBS's "60 Minutes" that they would not fly the jet any more.

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Quantum resonance based technologies can transmutate virtually any material into any other material or into energy. This is somehow being applied to the space around aircraft, such that oxygen is being transmuted into some other airy substance...makes it hard for military personnel to breathe, apparently affecting their ability to engage in combat.

Welcome to 2012...

Hi

It would be interesting to see just how bad their bodies are being deprived of oxygen & if any have developed Polycythaemia (pa).

[kk4aei]

See attached pics. We have established a PSCINET Spiritual Ascension Center in Valley View, VA. If there is an individual who would like to live at this location rent-free in exchange for part-time assistance with this initiative, please contact Nora at 202-244-2932 or via email kk4aei@wonksmedia.com. Events will begin Memorial Day weekend, with the video e-vite for the event posted to https://vimeo.com/42070782.

You may repost this and all other information found in this thread. Please note that this is not affiliated with Inelia Benz. Also, there will be no monetary transactions associated with this initiative. If you are interested in making donations towards this type of initiative, please send them directly to Inelia Benz via her web site - www.ascension101.com.

Interactions with the public will be primarily online events at no charge (via live Internet feed at http://justin.tv/altenergy) originating from this location, with occasional events held on site on roughly a monthly basis, also at no charge. We will be testing the live Internet feed during Memorial Day weekend.

[mountain_jim]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Even as the Air Force searches for the reason pilots are getting sick flying the F-22, a new mystery about the troubled stealth fighter jet has come to light: Why are mechanics on the ground getting sick in the plane as well?

The Air Force has been looking into a number of reports that pilots experienced "hypoxia-like symptoms" aboard F-22s since April 2008. Hypoxia is oxygen deficiency.

The Air Force reports 25 cases of such systems, including 11 since September, when the service cleared the F-22 fleet to return to flight after a four-month grounding.

The fleet was grounded in May 2011 so the service could check the hypoxia reports, but the order was lifted in September under a "return to fly" plan, with equipment modifications and new rules including daily inspections of the life-support systems.

"Early on in the return to fly we had five maintainers that reported hypoxia symptoms," Gen. Daniel Wyman, command surgeon for the Air Combat Command.

The maintainers are mechanics on the F-22's ground crews who sometimes have to be in the cockpit while the jet's engine is doing a ground run.

"The maintainers, when they are doing their ground run, are not on the mask, they are in the cockpit," Wyman said.

The problem with maintainers getting sick while on the ground throws a wrench into some of the theories about why at least 25 pilots have suffered hypoxia symptoms.

Sunday, two F-22 pilots told CBS's "60 Minutes" that they would not fly the jet any more.

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Quantum resonance based technologies can transmutate virtually any material into any other material or into energy. This is somehow being applied to the space around aircraft, such that oxygen is being transmuted into some other airy substance...makes it hard for military personnel to breathe, apparently affecting their ability to engage in combat.

Welcome to 2012...

What do you think of the information that Duff of Veterans Today provides?

He referenced the F22 in his 'intel dump May 9th' , and says his info comes from 'intelligence sources' and not the internet.

Other scary stuff concerning WMD sales, submarines, missiles, etc. mentioned here. He mentions the earlier ceased ship with weapons on way to China and how that has been 'scrubbed' from the Internet now.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/09/intel-dump-may-9-2012/



am starting with Indonesia with a strange story, my end is based on conversations with one foreign agency and one domestic source.

A Russian Sukhoi aircraft, a twin engine jet carrying diplomats, “dignitaries” and reporters has “disappeared,” assumed “crashed” in Indonesia.

The new Sukhoi was, until today, considered the future of Russian commercial aviation.

Sources confirm that the plane was commandeered, those on board kidnapped and the plane stolen or destroyed, no way of confirming. Our VELA system failed to detect a crash, the satellite system that detects even the smallest missile launch and any air crash. They saw nothing. What we heard from news reports was “round up the usual suspects.” From the 1941 film, “Casablanca:”

The key issue is Sukhoi. Here is the back story with some unconfirmed issues included.

Sukhoi makes the best fighters in the world. They have a model designated the “41″ that you won’t find anywhere, not the T-50 or “47″ prototypes. It is consider a threat as is the Sukhoi company, formerly the Sukhoi “Bureau” of the Soviet Union.

Sukhoi has become a potential target, most easily and safely a financial target because of failures in, not just the software coding of the F 35, America’s “world airplane” but more seriously, failures in the F 22 program which is slowly killing its pilots.

Some are showing signs of “black lung” from what seems to be an unrepairable oxygen system, even after the planes were grounded for some time, the other a more serious health problem I am unable to discuss here. I have put this much here at the request of the F 22 pilots who face insane repercussions for attempting to fix a plane they have come to love.

[kk4aei]

About halfway down the page, you'll find the following:

"The upcoming Eastern SWIFT bank transaction system is almost ready for prime time, its development in progress. The Chinese will take the lead position, taking the flack, pushing the process, which will not resemble the current SWIFT system in the flow vehicle."

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article34568.html

Simply stated, it appears that China will be calling the shots on the global economic front once the dust settles...whenever that is.

Also worth noting is the following:

"France will trigger the disruption process."

Keep an eye on the CAC 40 - http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CAC:IND - once that drops below 2000, it's time to katy bar the door (google it). This last sentence contradicts Lindsey William's interview summarized below; however, Mr. Williams specifically mentioned the CAC 40 as an indicator of when the euro would collapse.

[kk4aei]

Listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ESnDhAtspS4 - notes are provided below:

Collapse of All Fiat Currencies - Currency collapse will be worldwide and essentially simultaneous (completed within weeks of initial collapse activity)
1. “Barring Divine Intervention,” the derivatives market will initiate the global financial collapse
2. Ignore stock market, euro, Greece – irrelevant in terms of when collapse will transpire
3. Whenever you begin to see a crack in the derivatives market, derivatives activity will be used to initiate currency wars which began on April 14th – China announced they would float their currency relative to the dollar
4. When trade wars develop to protect currencies, interest rates will rise – ensure your paper assets are converted to tangible assets such as gold and silver by that time.
5. Price spikes will become evident by October in the U.S. (six months from April timeframe)

By the end of 2012, the dollar will be dead.

YOU MUST SECURE YOUR ASSETS:
• Get out of paper assets (stocks, bonds, retirement funds, etc.)
• Buy physical gold/silver – price of gold will exceed $3000/ounce, and silver $75+/ounce
• Buy tangible assets (such as emergency supplies)

There is dissension amongst the elite as to how to implement the New World Order. The elite are afraid of the masses waking up. This information is consistent with the 'October Surprise' timeline as presented above. The elite WILL BE DEFEATED.

[kk4aei]

The conference call has concluded. There is a small group of people who run the show during these calls, and dissent within the group is overtly criticized and is no longer tolerated. Based on this last call, the group midset essentially identifies people as either pro-Drake or an outsider.

Whether or not the PUBLIC NOTICE documentation was received by the Hague and is available for public review is being investigated independently of this core group. Public notices are made PUBLIC; otherwise, they are NOT public notices, and as a result hold no legal or lawful bearing on whatever issue the notice is supposed to address.

A response from the individual investigating the matter independently of this core group should have a response from the Hague by the end of May. This individual delayed submitting the request in order to investigate the issue from within the membership of the Nation States, in an attempt to keep the peace between members of the group, and the results of his investigation were inconclusive; otherwise, a response could have been received from the Hague as early as the end of next week.

We can state with certainty that the public disclosure of mass arrests by the end of June is patently false. While humanity is in fact on a positive timeline, do NOT take it on faith that this transition will be a walk in the park, as specifically delineated by 'those in the know'. You need to prepare for difficult times ahead, knowing that the end state will be worth the suffering required for humanity to make it across the finish line.

Something big is planned for this fall; however, the documentation from this group will not serve as the catalyst for the 'October Surprise'.

[ThePythonicCow]

About halfway down the page, you'll find the following:

"The upcoming Eastern SWIFT bank transaction system is almost ready for prime time, its development in progress. The Chinese will take the lead position, taking the flack, pushing the process, which will not resemble the current SWIFT system in the flow vehicle."

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article34568.html
Jim Willie, CB - I haven't read him in ages - great read - thanks.

Someday I hope to learn what that "CB" stands for :).

[mountain_jim]

About halfway down the page, you'll find the following:

"The upcoming Eastern SWIFT bank transaction system is almost ready for prime time, its development in progress. The Chinese will take the lead position, taking the flack, pushing the process, which will not resemble the current SWIFT system in the flow vehicle."

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article34568.html

Simply stated, it appears that China will be calling the shots on the global economic front once the dust settles...whenever that is.

Also worth noting is the following:

"France will trigger the disruption process."

Keep an eye on the CAC 40 - http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CAC:IND - once that drops below 2000, it's time to katy bar the door (google it).

An intense article explaining much that is going on financially right now.

The evidence the White Hats provided this week of supposed huge illegal money transfers backed by fraudulent non-existent gold included SWIFT system transaction report copies. Got the House of Lords to take a look, but Ron Paul and the Congress still apparently not ready to look into their evidence against the FED.

[TargeT]

"The maintainers, when they are doing their ground run, are not on the mask, they are in the cockpit," Wyman said.

The problem with maintainers getting sick while on the ground throws a wrench into some of the theories about why at least 25 pilots have suffered hypoxia symptoms.
..

Just "verified" this with a crewcheif buddy of mine in the F-22 program, when I asked him he said:

"I can't say much. That is my area of speciality. I have been on investigation boards. data collection teams etc... cant say much more than that.

everything you see or read is about 1-1.5 months behind what is acttually happening"

Not sure what that means, I haven't read anything personally....

"before the media gets a hold of it. they word a lot of stuff wrong etc also, make stuff seem as its not also"

I also asked about the ground crew sickness spesificaly

he said:

" there have been rumors, although I have never seen offical reports or confirmed cases, so to speak"


I guess that is sort of confermation?

[kk4aei]

Maybe it's the Avalon administrators who can be cloaked when reviewing messages (?) - see attached. The bottom screenshot taken first lists two members browsing this thread, but kk4aei is the only handle listed. The top screenshot taken a few minutes after the first screenshot lists two handles, but three members are are listed as browsing this thread. Either there is a glitch in the system or someone wants to keep a low profile.

Hmmmm.......

[ThePythonicCow]

Maybe it's the Avalon administrators who can be cloaked when reviewing messages (?) - see attached. The bottom screenshot taken first lists two members browsing this thread, but kk4aei is the only handle listed.Any member can be cloaked. Go to your General Settings page and enable Invisible Mode (the first setting of many on that page.) To find your General Settings page, click on "Settings" near top of most pages, then click on "General Settings" part way down menu on left.

[WHOMADEGOD]

Hold on just a minute here, I do not beleive anyone who charges for light work especially extortionate
amounts for "services" to the light, Inelia does, therefore this is false.

Please convince me otherwise?

Acension 101 course $99
Working through Fear $54

I have recently been passed a lot of spiritual information from another Avalonian for free.

This makes me angry and sad when I see exploitation like this, I call BS!
If the maintenance of a website needs funds it should rely on donations as thiz site does
and if you need more funds then charge a minimal amount say five dollars at most.

Pleaee do not be suckered in here, if she is who she thinks she is she would know better.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Hold on just a minute here, I do not beleive anyone who charges for light work especially extortionate
amounts for "services" to the light, Inelia does, therefore this is false.

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I have a Teacher. I pay my Teacher. It is an honor to support Her work and mission. If I do not pay my Teacher, she has to go get a job to support herself. Then she does not have the freedom to Teach.

People willingly pay their TV company, their drug dealers, and their whores before they will value their teachers enough to support them. No wonder our society is so messed up.

If you do not value Inelia's teachings, then do not pay for them. Every teacher is not for every student. Inelia is not for me. That does not make her evil or exploitive.

Please see my old thread here-

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19126-The-Ethics-of-Charging-Money-for-Information-Guidance-or-Teachings

[WHOMADEGOD]

I have a Teacher. I pay my Teacher. It is an honor to support Her work and mission. If I do not pay my Teacher, she has to go get a job to support herself. Then she does not have the freedom to Teach.

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Good for you.

Those who are, connected know they will be looked after and the universe responds, but to put a price
on services is something completely different. I agree in monetry exchange to allow for gifted souls to exist
with the freedom to teach, but this exchange is a personal one, not something you can put a price to.

Didnt appreciate the venom either in your response, you may need a different teacher.

Blessings

Mark

[the_vast_mystery]

This is why it's tricky figuring out who's a scam artist and who's not. People still have to eat, so charging money itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. (But if their rates compare to those of the Church of Scientology, they're probably a scam. ;p) This is why I stick predominantly to free materials though.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Good for you.

Those who are, connected know they will be looked after and the universe responds, but to put a price
on services is something completely different.
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Mark,

It could be that the venom that you perceive in my post isn't even there. But that's something no one can decide for you.

:Edited:

I have decided on a stronger response.

I am actually offended by your insulting my practice and saying "blessings" in the same post. Now who is being false?

It is common on Avalon for people to quickly attack anything they even remotely perceive to be in disagreement with them. It is high time that everyone on Avalon grew up and started taking responsibility for their own reactions. Not every situation is something that you need to "win".

Not everything that everyone says is intended to tear you down or make you feel silly.

This has been a public service announcement paid for by the Coalition For a Better Avalon.

[ThePythonicCow]

This thread is for PSCINET Updates, not for an extended debate over Inelia's fees.

:focus:

[WHOMADEGOD]

Agreed Paul.

I regret both those posts.

WM, this is the second time you have responded agressively to me, my original post was not to you,
I will not be bullied by you but I am also man enough to admit i was non constructive and personal.

I do not have the luxury of a teacher, I guess I am not ready and I guess it shows.

Please may this post continue in its original spirit, this was no attempt to derail.

Consider this a tempory glitch in the matrix, that and little sleep to boot.

Sincere blessings

Mark

[kk4aei]

Reply from a colleague:

Thanks for the followup.

If it (article on quantum attack) is 1 1/2 months behind "reality" (when events actually transpired) that puts it back then into the window that the other commercial pilots were reporting smoke, strange smells, getting ill, stewards and stewardesses going whacko with what looked like anxiety attacks.

It could be satellite based or ground based if mobile, as the reported locations of the various attacks have been both Europe based and while over the US.

Appears to correspond to dictator Putin's new "psi war" "we will bury you" statements.

The symptoms reek of a quantum attack weapon, microwave driven.

If it is very wide spread in "regions" and not just small fly thru zones, I would suspect MF or VHF carriers are being used for the quantum beam.

[Chester]

Reply from a colleague:

Thanks for the followup.

If it (article on quantum attack) is 1 1/2 months behind "reality" (when events actually transpired) that puts it back then into the window that the other commercial pilots were reporting smoke, strange smells, getting ill, stewards and stewardesses going whacko with what looked like anxiety attacks.

It could be satellite based or ground based if mobile, as the reported locations of the various attacks have been both Europe based and while over the US.

Appears to correspond to dictator Putin's new "psi war" "we will bury you" statements.

The symptoms reek of a quantum attack weapon, microwave driven.

If it is very wide spread in "regions" and not just small fly thru zones, I would suspect MF or VHF carriers are being used for the quantum beam.

This suggest then that what may have been considered "divine intervention" by ETs or EDs is possibly a man made weapon... Thanks

[TargeT]

If it is very wide spread in "regions" and not just small fly thru zones, I would suspect MF or VHF carriers are being used for the quantum beam.

my post is from a crew cheif in Alaska.

[the_vast_mystery]

Reply from a colleague:

Thanks for the followup.

If it (article on quantum attack) is 1 1/2 months behind "reality" (when events actually transpired) that puts it back then into the window that the other commercial pilots were reporting smoke, strange smells, getting ill, stewards and stewardesses going whacko with what looked like anxiety attacks.

It could be satellite based or ground based if mobile, as the reported locations of the various attacks have been both Europe based and while over the US.

Appears to correspond to dictator Putin's new "psi war" "we will bury you" statements.

The symptoms reek of a quantum attack weapon, microwave driven.

If it is very wide spread in "regions" and not just small fly thru zones, I would suspect MF or VHF carriers are being used for the quantum beam.

Okay, now this doesn't make sense. If it was a "Quantum attack" which itself is a very vague term, then it would not be a "beam" that would be being fired. It would be some sort of high power device in a remote location that would make use of entanglement to agitate its target area. The primary advantage to operating on a quantum level is nonlocality which allows you to affect particles over vast distances in an assumed untraceable way. In mainstream news we just had a report of entanglement functioning at a range of up to 97 KM, and I can only imagine what black project tech is at. Of course, this itself makes a huge number of assumptions about what the tech actually would be. However I'd hazzard a guess that if you had a way to entangle portions of the target's brain and/or nervous systems (central/autonomous) you could wreak havoc at a distance and turn just about anyone into a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. But then the question is what would they be entangling, targeting, and how could they affect it?

Too many questions, not enough data to answer.

[kk4aei]

"Yes, it's very much up in the air. The co-creative process of "what is going to happen" is so infused with the human addiction to drama, that it might take lots of terrible happenings while it shifts, but we also have a huge number who want it to be smooth. Let's get people conscious first."

The comments in italics above were in response to the following:

You've probably run across the whole Drake / Freedom Movement, and some of the drama that's unfolding in that arena. We have been actively researching to determine just how bumpy this ride is going to be for humanity. Physical Pole Shift? Magnetic Pole Shift?...or just a magnetic pole excursion?

Research has concluded that humanity will have to contend with at least a magnetic pole excursion, resulting in loss of grid power for an indeterminate period of time. People within the freedom movement remain largely divided on who to believe, what to do, etc. This division seems to have the effect of perpetuating fear/uncertainty within the freedom movement, reflective of what is also observed in the Middle East.

Our colleagues within the military and those who remain connected to the people working behind the scenes suggest that this fall will begin the most disruptive period of our collective transition.

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From another source:

"Our glances down the timeline suggest that there is a possibility that the NWO will 'appear to win', but it will in fact be only a last grasp before the whole thing collapses under its own dead weight. I am not very concerned about all the attempts they are making now. They have already lost and they know it, but they're trying desperately to convince everyone else that they're winning, just to try to get us to manifest a win for them out of fear."

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The problem with finding a way ahead strategy for raising consciousness is the tendency of people to centralize any initiative/project around a central core of people and/or one individual, rather than keeping activities decentralized. This struggle will continue until people learn/choose to come from within, as that is the only way to raise consciousness effectively. Joining a group or movement will by design limit one's ability to affect change through such an organization. This is primarily why the freedom movement as it is currently structured will fail to fulfill the objectives as outlined in their public notice (see attached).

In other words, our modern civilization will continue its decline until people learn/choose to come from within.

A shift from this terminal phase of decline in which we find ourselves to a new phase of our collective existence signifying the beginning of a new civilization will become evident within the next 12 months. Debate abounds as far as exactly when this new phase shall begin, though that point is largely irrelevant. Until a critical mass of people learn/choose to come from within, humanity will remain firmly entrenched within the "old civilization" mindset. Therefore, "let's get people conscious first," and address other issues once consciousness has been raised and a sufficient number of people come from within.

By coming from within, one can literally reprogram the matrix without having to organize events, talk to people, etc.

This is the approach that the author of this post has chosen to pursue.

Others are welcome to continue this thread as they see fit, as this will be the last post from this author to this particular thread.

Peace be within you.

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[the_vast_mystery]

What type of consciousness raising are you describing? Because unless the couple hundred thousand or so people who visit New Age or UFOology websites are able to meditate and magically change the entire conscious attitude of the remaining six billion plus humans on Planet Earth then it is fallacious to expect this to happen minus hard evidence. The sad fact is that you simply can't reach the majority of people without something more than your word. It is entirely unreasonable to expect a human to take such a leap of faith when the world is so orderly and dictated and has been for so long. People should not be faulted for having a "Seeing is believing" attitude, it was beaten into them over generations of failure and cruelty.

[araucaria]

The truth is that we don't know how many it takes to adopt the 'believing is seeing' attitude so that the rest can see and believe.

Just do it :)

[Chester]

The truth is that we don't know how many it takes to adopt the 'believing is seeing' attitude so that the rest can see and believe.

Just do it :)

That's the way I see it... when I focus on others in measurement of how much they are awakened, I am in judgement and wasting my time and energy and always end up getting frustrated by their "not getting it" (as if what I know is so special anyway). Thanks to lots of good posts on this forum, I have been adjusting my approach to a.) being positive and b.) just being.

I am amazed at how much and how fast others around me are changing (just kidding there). My point is that when I just be a positive, caring me without any expectation of others, others seem to be much more positive as well and I have found they are much more open to the information I think I possess.

I just hope I meet some more satanists so I can be this new, infectious me around some of them because that's the folks who in my humble opinion the consciousness changes most need to come from.

[charlesgilbertwright]

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