Is the Rothschild family being wrongly blamed?

[Neptun]

I have talked with several Rothschild family members and I had a longer debate with one today, that is in the inner circle of the family. I'm starting to become friends with the person.

What is very strange is that nearly all of them I have talked with are extremely nice and kind people. I can sense they have good hearts, what is weird, because I am on-board with the reptilian satanic theories and have always been uneasy with the Rothschild family and thought they eat children etc.

When I began to get in contact with them it felt like I was going to confront the Devil family themselves.

The Rothschild said the family are not saints and yes they founded both sides in the war to survive. But the person had never heard talks about population reduction and would highly doubt the family was part of that, because of the Jewish history with the Nazis and if the population reduction agenda is true, the person will be part of the 90% and fight against it.

I'm beginning to think that the Rothschild family may only be bad guys light and not New World Order Nazis and they are probably being framed by other more powerful Elites to take the blame?

Yes they do Fractional Reserve banking etc. (Bad guys light)

Those calling for population reduction are not Rothschild family members. I have never seen them publicly call for it.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-population-reduction-agenda-for-dummies.html

Maybe we can get the Rothschild family on our side and fight the Nazi Elites. The Rothschild person also wants freedom and peace for humanity.

[Eagle Eye]

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[RMorgan]

I have talked with several Rothschild family members and I had a longer debate with one today, that is in the inner circle of the family. I'm starting to become friends with the person.

What is very strange is that nearly all of them I have talked with are extremely nice and kind people. I can sense they have good hearts, what is weird, because I am on-board with the reptilian satanic theories and have always been uneasy with the Rothschild family and thought they eat children etc.

When I began to get in contact with them it felt like I was going to confront the Devil family themselves.

The Rothschild said the family are not saints and yes they founded both sides in the war to survive. But the person had never heard talks about population reduction and would highly doubt the family was part of that, because of the Jewish history with the Nazis and if the population reduction agenda is true, the person will be part of the 90% and fight against it.

I'm beginning to think that the Rothschild family may only be bad guys light and not New World Order Nazis and they are probably being framed by other more powerful Elites to take the blame?

Yes they do Fractional Reserve banking etc.

Maybe we can get the Rothschild family on our side and fight the Nazi Elites. The Rothschild person also wants freedom and peace for humanity.

Well mate...Who knows?

There was a guy who used to work in my father´s farm. He was one of the kindest persons I´ve ever met. He was a very hard working helpful man.

Then, one day, literally an army of police officers dropped by, including two helicopters, and arrested him.

He was searched by the police, for murdering his wife and two kids with a sickle.

So, even pretty bad persons can act nicely, but actually no one knows what´s going on inside their minds.

Be careful with those folks mate. Have no doubt that they are experts in the art of seduction.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Cartomancer]

Is this a joke? Are you serious? Have you actually read anything about these people? I'm sure they are going to run out tomorrow and give away all their money and end the fractional reserve banking system.

Did you stop to think that the dollar bill you are using for your avatar is somewhat controlled by these people? These folks control some of the banks that print and distribute US currency under the guise of the "Federal" reserve which is not part of the government. They manipulated my government into doing this and are using every advantage they can to degrade our economy and way of life. Meanwhile I'm sure they are just a bunch of hyper sensitive humans beings who care about us.

What a bunch of sweethearts these people must be deep down. Wake up bro.

[Neptun]

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Is this a joke? Are you serious? Have you actually read anything about these people? I'm sure they are going to run out tomorrow and give away all their money and end the fractional reserve banking system.

Did you stop to think that the dollar bill you are using for your avatar is somewhat controlled by these people? These folks control some of the banks that print and distribute US currency under the guise of the "Federal" reserve which is not part of the government. They manipulated my government into doing this and are using every advantage they can to degrade our economy and way of life. Meanwhile I'm sure they are just a bunch of hyper sensitive humans beings who care about us.

What a bunch of sweethearts these people must be deep down. Wake up bro.
I wrote they are bad guys light and yes they are doing Fractional Reserve Banking what is a ponzi scheme, but I'm not so sure they are behind the New World Order population reduction agenda?




Well mate...Who knows?

There was a guy who used to work in my father´s farm. He was one of the kindest persons I´ve ever met. He was a very hard working helpful man.

Then, one day, literally an army of police officers dropped by, including two helicopters, and arrested him.

He was searched by the police, for murdering his wife and two kids with a sickle.

So, even pretty bad persons can act nicely, but actually no one knows what´s going on inside their minds.

Be careful with those folks mate. Have no doubt that they are experts in the art of seduction.

Cheers,

Raf.


With all due respect I'm pretty good at detecting if people are bad guys or not. I'm so good at it, that I can filter out many scam artists, when I work with business deals. There are many of them and they are extremely creative.

[RMorgan]

With all due respect I'm pretty good at detecting if people are bad guys or not. I'm so good at it, that I can filter out many scam artists, when I work with business deals.

Hey mate,

Well, I´m pretty good in this as well.

However, It doesn´t matter how good you are in detecting people´s intentions, there are always people who might be better than you in disguising their intentions.

Just like an athlete, the excess of self-confidence always can lead someone to defeat.

All of us should learn to live with the idea that our perceptions are not accurate and can deceive us a lot of times.

I´m no saying that those guys are good or bad. I´m saying that the evidences we currently have are pretty conclusive against them.

Anyway, maybe you should ask him about these videos:

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Cheers,

Raf.

[Neptun]

With all due respect I'm pretty good at detecting if people are bad guys or not. I'm so good at it, that I can filter out many scam artists, when I work with business deals.

Hey mate,

Well, I´m pretty good in this as well.

However, It doesn´t matter how good you are in detecting people´s intentions, there are always people who might be better than you in disguising their intentions.

Just like an athlete, the excess of self-confidence always can lead someone to defeat.

All of us should learn to live with the idea that our perceptions are not accurate and can deceive us a lot of times.

Cheers,

Raf.

I'm a former Narcissist and my personality was based on manipulation. It is very very hard to manipulate me without I know it. I also have an open heart and can feel energies if people are on the dark or divine love side. The dark ones feel different. There is a parasitic energy to them and I feel uneasy speaking with them.

[Billy]

This is about the old saying of not tarring everyone with the same brush,

I have many Rothschild family members as friends in FB mostly from a much younger generation, I chat with them and they do not agree with the older family members who are in control of banking and worldy matters. They are open, spiritualy awake and just as confused as all the rest of us.

Never tar everyone with the same brush, Do not throw out all the good fruit because of a few bad apples in the basket Etc.

peace

[Neptun]

billyjim

Yes they are super spiritual and lovely, what is strange to experience, when I have seen them as baby eating reptilians.

I was also told the new generation are different and very kind.

It makes sense, that the NWO will blame the Rothschild for everything to avoid being blamed.

It is like the Ouroboros. The snake that eats its own tail. The bad guys light are the first to be eaten:
http://billedeupload.dk/images/RwaX.jpg

[Cartomancer]

I guess it is important to empathize with people who are different from us or are in another social class. I see what you are saying there. I just wish all of these foreign banks would get out of my country and let us go back to a gold based monetary system. They have made slaves out of all of us here. They shipped all of our industry overseas and left us nothing but jobs "servicing" each other.

Why don't you ask your friend if they have any plans to give us our money back? What do you think they will say then?

[Neptun]

I guess it is important to empathize with people who are different from us or are in another social class. I see what you are saying there. I just wish all of these foreign banks would get out of my country and let us go back to a gold based monetary system. They have made slaves out of all of us here. They shipped all of our industry overseas and left us nothing but jobs "servicing" each other.

Why don't you ask your friend if they have any plans to give us our money back? What do you think they will say then?

We talked about peace and forgiveness and I was told the public doesn't want that. We are all kind of a mirror of each other. If the public is in denial of truth and will not take back their freedom and stop lying to themselves, then they are begging bad guys to take advances of them.

If we can get the Rothschild on our side they could support humanity get freedom and peace.

I will have to wake the Rothschild fully up to the New World Order agenda and it will be interesting what happens next. In a way they are living in a prison illusion too, just as the public does. That is why it is so powerful to become friends with the "enemy".

[Space_Ace]

1. How do you know he's a Rothschild?(apparently the top 1 of 13 elite bloodlines) He could be a clone or one of their minions.
2. Have you asked why humanity(especially men) has been oppressed for thousands of years?
3. The elites probably see value in you being a narcissist and want you to work for them, once they are done with you, game over.
4. If this "Rothschild" doesn't have genocide in mind, they simply determined that 7 billion slaves(vs. half billion) are worth more alive than dead.
5. Those elites are world class liars and manipulators and will tell you whatever you want to hear then screw you over for any reason they feel like.
6. I am curious if you have learned anything about when we can see mass arrests, nesara, disclosure, ascension?
7. Good luck, I guess you don't fear torture and death. Yes, alot of people have been brainwashed but that's because of the elite's lies.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

I know about the New World Order population reduction agenda. I have talked with several that are working for this agenda. What I'm saying is that the Rothschild family may not be in favor of the population reduction NWO agenda but only are Fractional Reserve Banking scam artists(bad guys light)?

The Rothschild told me they supported both sides in the war to escape. That is bad but not as bad as being a population reduction NWO Nazi.

[RMorgan]

RMorgan,

I know about the New World Order population reduction agenda. I have talked with several that are working for this agenda. What I'm saying is that the Rothschild family may not be in favor of the population reduction NWO agenda but only are Fractional Reserve Banking scam artists(bad guys light)?

The Rothschild told me they supported both sides in the war to escape. That is bad but not as bad as being a population reduction NWO Nazi.

Hey mate,

I don´t know much about this subject.

All I know is that you can find a lot of info on the web, including videos and interviews with people who also met the with some Rothschilds, saying that they have direct link with de-population plans and micro-chipping the whole population. (like videos posted on thread #6)

If you dig enough on the web, I bet you´ll find very compelling evidence as well.

Do your research and I´m sure you´ll have a lot of things to discuss next time you chat with your friend.

By the way, anyone who supports both sides on a war is considered a double-agent and war criminal under the eyes of the law. These folks aren´t under arrest just because they are very powerful and the law can´t touch them.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

The Youtube you wrote about is Aaron Russo the Hollywood producer that had been friends with Nick Rockefeller. Rockefeller and Rothschild are not the same family. Yes the Rockefellers are eugenics New World Order population reduction Elites.

I have done my research intensely the past 11 years and I speak with the other side to understand the "enemy" better.

I'm a hardcore truthseeker.

Yes lending money to both sides in a war is bad. But not as bad as being a New World Order 90% population reduction Elite. They are bad guys light.

[RMorgan]

RMorgan,

The Youtube you wrote about is Aaron Russo the Hollywood producer that had been friends with Nick Rockefeller. Rockefeller and Rothschild are not the same family. Yes the Rockefellers are eugenics New World Order population reduction Elites.

Oh! Sorry mate!

My mistake here. I´ve just made a confusion with family names! :)

That´s the result of doing so many different stuff simultaneously. :)

Anyway, despite my mistake, both Rockefellers and Rothchilds have a very very close relationship.

Well, anyway, if you like David Ike, he has some very interesting things to say about the Rothschilds

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Some other interesting readings about the relationship bwteen the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm

http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to MI5, Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, CFR, et. al.

"Victor Rothschild, who worked for J.P. Morgan & Co., and was an important part of MI5 (British Intelligence). Victor Rothschild was also a communist and member of the Apostles Club at Cambridge.45 Lord Rothschild was one of the original members of Rhode’s Round Table group which developed into the CFR. It was the Rothschilds who had financed Cecil Rhodes, beginning in Africa. The Rothschilds’ have several agents which their money got started and who still serve them well, the Morgans and the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were Marrano Jews. The original Rockefeller made his money selling narcotics, (they weren’t illegal then). After acquiring a little capital he branched out in oil. But it was the Rothschild capital that made the Rockefeller’s so powerful. "They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (railroads) and Andrew Carnegie Steel."

Cheers,

Raf.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

Sure the Elite are doing business together, that is no secret. Yes the Rothschild and Rockefellers are both part of the ponzi Fractional Reserve Banking scam. BUT I have never seen evidence that Rothschild are interested in creating a 1 world government and kill 90% of the world population.

Even Hither blamed the Rothschild family:
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Why would the New World Order Hitler agent blame the Rothschild family?

Maybe because the NWO are Nazis?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[Space_Ace]

Neptun, you didn't see my reply. I will send in PM and repost.

1. How do you know he's a Rothschild?(apparently the top 1 of 13 elite bloodlines) He could be a clone or one of their minions.
2. Have you asked why humanity(especially men) has been oppressed for thousands of years?
3. The elites probably see value in you being a narcissist and want you to work for them, once they are done with you, game over.
4. If this "Rothschild" doesn't have genocide in mind, they simply determined that 7 billion slaves(vs. half billion) are worth more alive than dead.
5. Those elites are world class liars and manipulators and will tell you whatever you want to hear then screw you over for any reason they feel like.
6. I am curious if you have learned anything about when we can see mass arrests, nesara, disclosure, ascension?
7. Good luck, I guess you don't fear torture and death. Yes, alot of people have been brainwashed but that's because of the elite's lies.

Furthermore: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/05/fulford-receives-threat-from-british.html

Fulford explains that the crossword contains a threat to attack Japan with a five kiloton nuclear weapon, and that the threat is linked to the G5 Rothschild banking cartel.

[Neptun]

Space_Ace,

I didn't answer you first time because I can see you have already made up your mind.

What is your defends regarding all the children you have raped. (same kind of question style)

[Hervé]

Something else to consider when attempting a view of the "Big Picture":

Note: In the following, substitute Markabians with "Lizzies" and "Xenu" with the one not to be named... and one can get a pretty accurate picture of what's going on.



[...]

The Markabian Gambit
About 250 years ago, the off-planet Markabians got into the act in a big way (there had been earlier attempts by them) by authorizing secretly (without Grand Council approval) a take-over project to get control of Earth and when it became acceptable in the Galactic Community, to have it annex itself to the Markabian system as the 8th major planet. Their clandestine agent, the infamous Xenu (see Sector Ethics Order 1A (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob20.htm) for details), took the body of Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the "Illuminati", a super-secret society which went about taking over other power groups by infiltration and economic coercion. The first big advance that was made was Xenu's take-over of a body in the Rothschild banking family so that after the War of 1812, the Illuminati became very wealthy and could in fact control many economic lines.

A succession of taking key power-point bodies into the 20th Century and expanding secret-society influence has resulted in the control of the groups listed in Sector Operations Bulletin No 18 (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob18.htm#groups).


In the last 50 years, 200,000 Markabian "junior executives" have been clandestinely immigrated to Earth (again without Grand Council approval) to assist Xenu and his conspirators in the planetary take-over. They have taken over bodies of the key "insiders" of high-finance, banking, politics, industry, and the "secret societies" previously mentioned. Markabians are recognizable by their spiritual "blackness" and their "black-beam" flows. Also a lust for status and control and for enforcing "conformity" on others are typical Markabian characteristics.


There is also the mandatory mind-control programming and the creation of various types of alters running rampant with bloodlines; see this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=485533&viewfull=1#post485533 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=485533&viewfull=1#post485533)

So, between sockpuppets, amiable alters and/or combinations of both... take your pick.

[Neptun]

Amzer Zo,

I have just finished a book about Scientology. The Xenu or Xemu is part of the OT III level(Operating Thetan level III) in Scientology. They believe there is a dark being living in a vulcano and they have to "clear" the entire planet- and make money with the Scientology church - to save humanity.

I don't believe that stuff and think Scientology is a scam cult.

[RMorgan]

Hi again mate,

Well, from my perspective and from the law perspective anyone who is an accomplice of a crime is also a criminal.

If you can´t see that, well, then you have a very peculiar way of seeing things.

Please, just read these articles or better, print them and discuss it with your friend:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm

http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm

These folks were and still are partners in so many crimes against humanity.

They are behind probably all big corruption schemes in recorded history.

"Referring to James Rothschild, the poet Heinrich Heine said: "Money is the god of our times, and Rothschild is his prophet."

"There is but one power in Europe and that is Rothschild." 19th century French commentator.

"Rothschilds' favorite saying who along with the Rockefellers are the major Illuminati Banking Dynasties: "Who controls the issuance of money controls the government!" "

"Nathan Rothschild said (1777-1836): "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." "

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: "The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

To sum up, these folks own the world.

Basically, they have created this system that we´re all fighting hard to destroy.

They are my enemies.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

They are bad guys LIGHT. It is allot different to be working towards wiping out 90% of world population than "only" make money out of thin air like Bernie Madoff.

Is Bernie Madoff worse than Hitler?

Bad guys come in different levels.

[RMorgan]

RMorgan,

They are bad guys LIGHT. It is allot different to be working towards wiping out 90% of world population than "only" make money out of thin air like Bernie Madoff.

Is Bernie Madoff worse than Hitler?

Hey mate,

How many lives do you think they have destroyed in order to accumulate so much money and power?

These folks are mass murderers. Period.

Raf.

[Space_Ace]

Space_Ace,

I didn't answer you first time because I can see you have already made up your mind.

What is your defends regarding all the children you have raped. (same kind of question style)

Others are asking the same kind of questions. How do you even know that guy was a Rothschild in the first place? Also every alternate news source places the Roths as the top elites.

Anyone else can answer those questions:

1. How do you know he's a Rothschild?(apparently the top 1 of 13 elite bloodlines) He could be a clone or one of their minions.
2. Have you asked why humanity(especially men) has been oppressed for thousands of years?
3. The elites probably see value in you being a narcissist and want you to work for them, once they are done with you, game over.
4. If this "Rothschild" doesn't have genocide in mind, they simply determined that 7 billion slaves(vs. half billion) are worth more alive than dead.
5. Those elites are world class liars and manipulators and will tell you whatever you want to hear then screw you over for any reason they feel like.
6. I am curious if you have learned anything about when we can see mass arrests, nesara, disclosure, ascension?
7. Good luck, I guess you don't fear torture and death. Yes, alot of people have been brainwashed but that's because of the elite's lies.

Furthermore: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/...m-british.html

Fulford explains that the crossword contains a threat to attack Japan with a five kiloton nuclear weapon, and that the threat is linked to the G5 Rothschild banking cartel.

[Hervé]

Amzer Zo,

I have just finished a book about Scientology. The Xenu or Xemu is part of the OT III level(Operating Thetan level III) in Scientology. They believe there is a dark being living in a vulcano and they have to "clear" the entire planet- and make money with the Scientology church - to save humanity.

I don't believe that stuff and think Scientology is a scam cult.

Too much confusion on the subject by not differentiating between the applied philosophy, the official organized church of Scientology -- which, I agree has become a money ponzi scheme cult -- and the independents, freezoners and Ron's org fellows. All of the latter vouching for the benefits obtained through the proper application of the applied philosophy.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

They are bad guys LIGHT. It is allot different to be working towards wiping out 90% of world population than "only" make money out of thin air like Bernie Madoff.

Is Bernie Madoff worse than Hitler?

Hey mate,

How many lives do you think they have destroyed in order to accumulate so much money and power?

These folks are mass murderers. Period.

Raf.

It goes both ways. People allow to be manipulated too so the finger can't only be pointed at them.

The Rothschild told me they are not saints but the person had never heard of the population reduction thing mentioned in the family.

What is worse working towards a 1 world fascist dictatorship and wipe out 90% of the public or scamming them by blowing up the economy and make money out of thin air?

Rockefellers are hardcore bad guys compared to Rothschild bad guys light.

[xeon]

The Rothschilds are the hidden hand behind world affairs over the past few hundred years at least. They are only interested in money and controlling the scenes from behind.

I think you have a wrong idea about what NWO means. To me, NWO does not necessarily mean population reduction; it also means enforcing a state of misery over this planet, and witholding the human race from progressing. The Rothschilds are very good at that.

Modern day Pharisees, and the Bible (of all books) makes no bones about the punishment that awaits them. The Bible also has this riddle...."Unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven". Note the Pharisees were the Jewish leaders of the day, and mostly good men.

Simple stuff to understand, really. As for the younger Rothschilds that you think are so good, ask them a simple question - Are they willing to sacrifice their comfortable lifestyle of wealth to fight their evil older relatives and bring about REAL significant improvement in the current world situation with no strings attached? Actions always speak louder than words....

[wynderer]

i see no one is supplying you w/quotes/facts re the Rothschilds' being on board w/the pop reduce agenda

i'm about to leave the forum -- have other things on my plate right now -- so i'll speak plainly -- i think there is anti-Semitism here --Pearl S Buck suggested that others are jealous of the Jews because they are God's favorite --the Rothschilds seem to be pretty good at making money, &, as money is so important to y'all, i think you do get jealous

re the Rockefellers -- i was living in West Virginia when Jay Rockefeller was 1st elected governor there [claiming the state as his little fiefdom] & went to his inaugural ball -- saw a recent photo of him & was surprised by how Reptilian he looks these days

[Space_Ace]

It goes both ways. People allow to be manipulated too so the finger can't only be pointed at them.

The Rothschild told me they are not saints but the person had never heard of the population reduction thing mentioned in the family.

What is worse working towards a 1 world fascist dictatorship and wipe out 90% of the public or scamming them by blowing up the economy and make money out of thin air?

Rockefellers are hardcore bad guys compared to Rothschild bad guys light.

I did not allow myself to be manipulated and I am sure neither did most victims. They were brainwashed, including my parents. Again, the Roths are fine with 7 billion slaves.

[Neptun]

The Rothschilds are the hidden hand behind world affairs over the past few hundred years at least. They are only interested in money and controlling the scenes from behind.

I think you have a wrong idea about what NWO means. To me, NWO does not necessarily mean population reduction; it also means enforcing a state of misery over this planet, and witholding the human race from progressing. The Rothschilds are very good at that.

Modern day Pharisees, and the Bible (of all books) makes no bones about the punishment that awaits them. The Bible also has this riddle...."Unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven". Note the Pharisees were the Jewish leaders of the day, and mostly good men.

Simple stuff to understand, really. As for the younger Rothschilds that you think are so good, ask them a simple question - Are they willing to sacrifice their comfortable lifestyle of wealth to fight their evil older relatives and bring about REAL significant improvement in the current world situation with no strings attached? Actions always speak louder than words....

The person did not deny their family was involved with governments. Please understand they are living in the Matrix of illusion too, so I have to wake them up first to the entire New World Order agenda.

The person said over and over again that humanity are cruel and do not want peace.

It goes both ways. People have to take back their powers and the Rothschild and other families have to support humanity and not manipulate so much. I'm sure when I wake this person up, then the person will support humanity!

[Neptun]

wynderer,

I have noticed Israel and Jews are being blamed allot by the disinfo agents on the internet. When I show another side of Israel and expose the "Palestinian" lies I will often be attacked. Why is that? It is most likely by intense programming by TV and other sources.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42980-A-differen-perspective-on-the-Israel-situation&p=463138&highlight=pallywood#post463138

Space_Ace,

It is so easy to forget the bigger picture when you have access to a money printing machine. Everybody does it in "the top".

But it is another ballgame to set up a world Luciferian dictatorship and kill 90% of the public.

[RMorgan]

What is worse working towards a 1 world fascist dictatorship and wipe out 90% of the public or scamming them by blowing up the economy and make money out of thin air?

Rockefellers are hardcore bad guys compared to Rothschild bad guys light.

Hey mate,

You´re using bad logic here.

There´s no way to compare two terrible things.

Would you rather die eaten by a shark or attacked by a lion? What´s worse?

Would you rather be visited by Jason or Freddy Krueger? ;)

Who is a better person, a rapist or a murderer?

Would you rather die as part of a depopulation plan or by the hands of a tyrannic dictatorship?

Both systems would consequently lead to the deaths and oppression of millions of persons on this Planet.

With all due respect, I´m starting to believe you are blinded by your fascinating new friend. Be careful.

Again, these folks are mass murderers and criminals. That´s it.

Anyway, if you want to be best friends with anyone you want, it´s your choice.

Even bad persons like Hitler or George W Bush have/had best friends; just be aware of the consequences, because choosing the right friends can be decisive in our lives.

Over and out.

Raf.

[Neptun]

RMorgan,

It is not bad logic.

If you had $100M dollars and you could make big profit by putting them in a program and having them in a bank account for some time to generate risk free profit and it was normal, at your social level, then you wouldn't understand the bigger picture, that you are helping blowing up the economy. I had to convince the Rothschild that Fractional Reserve Banking is a scam.

If however you are working together with scientists to find ways to reduce world population with 90% and go to some secret human sacrifice rituals to blow off steam, then you are on a much higher level of the bad guy scale.

That is worse than Hitler that "only" toke out 6M Jews. The hardcore bad guy Elite are planing to take out billions of people.

[nearing]

I'm a former Narcissist and my personality was based on manipulation.

Are you saying that you used to have Narcissistic Personality Disorder? I'd so, please explain how you came to change your personality.

This is fascinating.

[RMorgan]

RMorgan,

It is not bad logic.

If you had $100M dollars and you could make big profit by putting them in a program and having them in a bank account for some time to generate risk free profit and it was normal, at your social level, then you wouldn't understand the bigger picture, that you are helping blowing up the economy. I had to convince the Rothschild that Fractional Reserve Banking is a scam.

If however you are working together with scientists to find ways to reduce world population with 90% and go to some secret human sacrifice rituals to blow off steam, then you are in a much higher level of the bad guy scale.

That is worse than Hitler that "only" toke out 6M Jews. The hardcore bad guy Elite are planing to take out billions of people.


Hi,

For personal reasons, this is my last reply on this thread. I hope you understand that.

Just for your information, if these folks had invested half of what they invested in wars, to solve the most important problems in this world, they could have ended all hunger and basically fixed all major worldwide problems we´re facing right now.

By the way, they are basically directly responsible for all global problems we are facing and which will probably lead humanity to extinction if nobody stops them.

They have the money and power to change the world for good, but they have chosen to destroy the world and society as a whole. Now, how bad is it?

They are a bunch of selfish and greedy bastards.

These folks have enough money to supply generations with a very comfortable life style, but they only want more and more, and don´t care about the consequences.

From my point of view, this guy didn´t chose you, with your narcissistic personality, by coincidence, and you´re psychologically compromised by now.

To sum up, you´re blind.

I often don´t take things to this direction, because I´m mostly a down to earth man, but I´m sensing a very bad energy coming from you and from this thread as a whole.

With all due respect, I gently ask you to put me in your ignore list, since I´ll be doing the same from my side.

I don´t mean to offend you, but your point of view about this subject is totally myopic and irrational.

Well, I´m a member here for quite some time and, just for you to have an idea on how serious I think this thread is, you´re the first member I´m adding to my ignore list.

Take care.

Rafael.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Neptum, let me see if my powers of deductive reasoning are serving me well here. Just assuming the Rothchild's funding of all sides in WW2 was their one and only foray into the war arena, and they never played the war game before or after that,(a hard one to swallow but o.k.) do they not still have the blood of atleast 70 some million people worldwide? And the cascading events since that are happening to this very day?

Let's take this logic further on it's course of reasoning. If one is willing to unleash hell on earth like that once, would they not then be disposed to doing it again if it suited their needs?

It is stated over and over again that control and power are the ultimate aphrodisiac, and psychopaths are especially drawn to this addiction, like flies to sh!t. If one is psychopathic and control freak enough to spark even one world war, and proceed to also strangle and enslave the world through their banking scams, they will not only stop at nothing to maintain that control, but will also derive ecstatic pleasure at gaining more, and more, and more, and more, and......

Have I just been out in the hot Florida sun too much already this summer, or does this sound like a reasonable way to see this?

Cheers,
Fred

[Flash]

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Is this a joke? Are you serious? Have you actually read anything about these people? I'm sure they are going to run out tomorrow and give away all their money and end the fractional reserve banking system.

Did you stop to think that the dollar bill you are using for your avatar is somewhat controlled by these people? These folks control some of the banks that print and distribute US currency under the guise of the "Federal" reserve which is not part of the government. They manipulated my government into doing this and are using every advantage they can to degrade our economy and way of life. Meanwhile I'm sure they are just a bunch of hyper sensitive humans beings who care about us.

What a bunch of sweethearts these people must be deep down. Wake up bro.
I wrote they are bad guys light and yes they are doing Fractional Reserve Banking what is a ponzi scheme, but I'm not so sure they are behind the New World Order population reduction agenda?




Well mate...Who knows?

There was a guy who used to work in my father´s farm. He was one of the kindest persons I´ve ever met. He was a very hard working helpful man.

Then, one day, literally an army of police officers dropped by, including two helicopters, and arrested him.

He was searched by the police, for murdering his wife and two kids with a sickle.

So, even pretty bad persons can act nicely, but actually no one knows what´s going on inside their minds.

Be careful with those folks mate. Have no doubt that they are experts in the art of seduction.

Cheers,

Raf.


With all due respect I'm pretty good at detecting if people are bad guys or not. I'm so good at it, that I can filter out many scam artists, when I work with business deals. There are many of them and they are extremely creative.

1. Some may be good people.
2. They are not all good for sure.
3. The best psychopaths are the most charming people one will meet in a lifetime. It does not show up, this is why it is soooo dangerous.
4. I met someone who was the gentlest of souls, almost meek. Well, he had police surrounding this work building and was taken out with shackles as an armed serial rapist.
5. I did also meet extremely wealthy people that were basically good.
6. Money makes you look good. Manipulation at higher levels is rampant and an art of living. Once through that, some may still remain good, but the number is sharply reduced through their kind of education (on how to manipulate) and through most probably genetic factors.

[bearcow]

Well, from my perspective and from the law perspective anyone who is an accomplice of a crime is also a criminal.

From this point of view, we all are criminals. Nobody in this world is 100% pure, there are no victims.

In the future, humanity may have to make a choice between the lesser of multiple unsavory factions and side with them. The USA sided with Stalin to defeat Hitler, remember?

The elite fill a role in the karmic and cultural dynamics of the human race. Despots do not come about solely by the strength of their own will.

The Rothschild family are for sure power brokers who have gotten their hands very dirty over the course of history.

The question is, which of the elite families/factions vying for power today is the lesser evil?

[Neptun]

It is so easy to judge them and say they are scum of the earth. But what are we doing ourselves?

Why were Bush and Obama elected? Why are so many people in denial and attack those that want to stop the NWO?

Why do people sign up to fight the globalist imperialistic wars?

Why are people going along with all the lies the Elites spew regarding the Arabic Spring, Climate change etc.

If we have to defeat the Luciferian conspiracy, we need to face all the evils we are part of and forgive ourselves and the Elite.

I know hate and anger are more trendy than forgiveness and love.

[christian]

I have talked with several Rothschild family members and I had a longer debate with one today, that is in the inner circle of the family. I'm starting to become friends with the person.

What is very strange is that nearly all of them I have talked with are extremely nice and kind people. I can sense they have good hearts, what is weird, because I am on-board with the reptilian satanic theories and have always been uneasy with the Rothschild family and thought they eat children etc.

It's always mentioned by people who as children grew up in families, where parents were involved in satanic rituals etc., that during the day their parents were absolutely nice people, pillars of their local or even bigger society -- then at night they'd do the most horrendous stuff. I reckon you met those guys during their "daytime" phases. Or you met some of the family members, who actually are not involved in satanism etc., I think it's possible, that there are some of them, who are not and don't want to be part of this.

Reminds me of Aaron Russo's story, he met one of the Rockefeller's and liked him, it was an intelligent and well behaved man, he said. Russo was then offered to be part of the Council on Foreign Relations and got told the real agenda and said he doesn't want to be part of that at all.

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[write4change]

My own father fits this definition and on a whole I have nothing to say about him because as I was taught if you have nothing good to say better to say nothing. My extended family all said my father was a street angel and a house devil, as was his father. That is how this stuff gets passed down.

[cloud9]

In my humble opinion, anybody who has so much money they and their families can live generations without the need to work or worry about paying their mortgage (as a figure of speech) and can't see the billions of human beings around the world struggling to survive, they don't have compassion in their hearts, they have no feelings...
Just ask yourself this: If you were filthy rich, the richest in the world and saw people suffering after an earthquake with no homes, no food, no nothing... would you feel the impulse of helping them? Would you wish the earthquake would have killed them instead?

How come regular folks who are also struggling to survive do feel the desire to help others? How can somebody in this time and age live unaware of the needs of so many human beings? How can they keep on accumulating knowing that the more they have the less others have?

[nearing]

In my humble opinion, anybody who has so much money they and their families can live generations without the need to work or worry about paying their mortgage (as a figure of speech) and can't see the billions of human beings around the world struggling to survive, they don't have compassion in their hearts, they have no feelings...
Just ask yourself this: If you were filthy rich, the richest in the world and saw people suffering after an earthquake with no homes, no food, no nothing... would you feel the impulse of helping them? Would you wish the earthquake would have killed them instead?

How come regular folks who are also struggling to survive do feel the desire to help others? How can somebody in this time and age live unaware of the needs of so many human beings? How can they keep on accumulating knowing that the more they have the less others have?

Because they have no empathy. Having no empathy is a symptom (official and documented) of Narcissitic Personality Disorder.

Watch this video to understand:

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[Seikou-Kishi]

The Rothschild family is just playing the role they've been given, or taken. Their job is to show us what we're not. By no means does that mean we should stand by and tolerate their evil actions, but we should move the focus away from them and what's wrong with them to us and what's right with us. They provide a contrast by which we see ourselves, and what contrast.

They're really not the point, and because they're not the point it doesn't really matter if it's a case of mistaken identity. I suspect not, but then it's not about them.

In any case the Wizard of Hannibal drafted a magical incantation of banishment for such boogeymen:

"Devil follow corpse, cat follow devil, warts follow cat, I'm done with ye!"

[SKAWF]

NO, they are not being wrongly accused.

they are at the top of the pile.

to say (i'm paraphrasing)
'well okay funding both sides in a war is bad........'

lets just stop and examine that....

how 'bad' has it been for iraq, afghanistan, and the countless other smaller countries that have been decimated by those wars?

what about WWII, and WWI?, millions dead.
lets also not forget that war was supposed to reduce the population,
but was'nt good enough to achieve the objective, so all the other methods were researched, planned, and have been deployed.

what about having the jews and muslims mutually destroy each other in WWIII?,
just so you can introduce a new world order.

i'm sure i could come across as being as nice as pie,
if i was completely detached from the horror that i was paying others to do on my behalf.
i might not even have to plan it.

i could just tell people what the aim was, and let them take care of it for me.
i wouldnt even have to know how it was done.

i say arrest all of them for crimes against humanity, and then work out who is innocent.

ive only gone into one facet of it all. the wars. there is so much more that it would take days possibly months to go through.

so yeah, funding both sides of a war is 'bad', murderous you might say.
and if they are at the top of the pile, and more than one person has planned all this, knowing that the cost would be massive losses of human life,
then as far as i'm concerned, thats conspiracy to commit mass murder.

and for what... control over the world. lock em up for the rest of their natural lives.

[Mandala]

Also the lie is different at every level. There is a good chance that not every Rothchild knows everything. My Gramps was a 32nd degree Mason, he didn't know what the exclusive inner circle Masons know.

Are the ones you speak of cousins or (ie) sons of the prominent ones?
I have met first cousins with the last name Johnson, as in President Lyndon Johnson in the US. They were considered "lesser relatives", never invited to the ranch or White House. Never invited over, not on any guest list. But, they sure did throw the name around a lot.

[Hervé]

I don't know if any of you ever read any of Siberia9's posts but if you didn't, you should.

here is one amongst others about the royals:


Come on guys, dont fall for the magick. This guy didnt write anything, famous people never do, they have people do it for them. They dont need the money so its about getting further in your head, no thanks. These people want to save the beautiful planet and THEIR resources from YOU the filthy sims (simians, monkeys) thats what they call you. To them you are not the same race as them, they despise you, you are their cattle. Do not fall for the fancy words and fake smiles.

These people are not what you think they are. They are the Mayors of the Castle, put in to power by the Vatican through the Donation of Constantine, a fraudulent document. They are frauds, and do as they are told. I am related to many of the Royal family's myself, the old and the new. Im not proud of it, and I dont claim to know everything, but it has given me an understanding, and I am telling you they are not on your side, and you should not give them you energy. For example, if a child killer moved onto your block would you talk about his cool accent and how nice his garden is? Dont fall for the mind control spell, look beyond it and see the beast that stares at you.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Also the lie is different at every level. There is a good chance that not every Rothchild knows everything. My Gramps was a 32nd degree Mason, he didn't know what the exclusive inner circle Masons know.

Are the ones you speak of cousins or (ie) sons of the prominent ones?
I have met first cousins with the last name Johnson, as in President Lyndon Johnson in the US. They were considered "lesser relatives", never invited to the ranch or White House. Never invited over, not on any guest list. But, they sure did throw the name around a lot.

I would agree. In fact I'd say that not a single Rothschild knows everything. If we can see them, they're small fries.

[bearcow]

who is it that pulls the trigger? Rothschild?

who is it that builds the bombs? Rockefeller?

who is it that rapes the villages? Cheney? (bad example, lol)

if we took the elites away would people stop building bombs, peddling drugs, selling out their fellow man for a buck?

would wickedness disappear from the hearts of man?

Food for thought: perhaps some of the elites who wish to play the game in order to create a worthwhile future play it like a chess board, work with the pieces set on the board as they are, not as they would hope it to be, and will sacrifice a pawn to save the king or queen as it were.

the world is not black and white

[wynderer]

my oops -- i don't really read stuff about the bloodline families -- but this is fromHouman's thread

Tavistock, England--This has been the primary programming center for England. The Rothschild programmers work out of Tavistock. A large number of slaves in America have been programmed there. Tavistock has been doing mind-control since before W.W.II. Under the supervision of London’s W Board & 20 Committee MI6 and MI5’s Section BIA ran double agents and mind-controlled spies/couriers during W.W. II. MI6 has had an office at Century House, No. 100, Westminster Bridge Road. MI5 offices have been in part on Curzon St. MI5 has operated behind a number of fronts, incl. their fake travel agency Casuro Holidays. MI-5’s address for mail is Room 055, The War Office, London. Special Intelligence Service (SIS) dealt with all types of mind control. Tavistock was under SIS. The British government has had their own telephone exchange with a 222 prefix, which was later linked to another secret exchange YTAN. Outsiders could dial 222 8080 to get into the secret govt. exchange.

[East Sun]

Remember, white is black and black is white, right is wrong and wrong is right. Just like the Masons the Jesuits, the Illuminati and all secret societies they have agendas that have been in operation for a long time. They are connected at the top while those lower on the pyramid don't know half of what's going on. I know masons who would be devastated if they knew about their leaders connection with the Jesuits.

In speaking with any of them I'd be very reserved and play dumb (not hard for me for some reason) and listen well. If any offer to join them was made I'd graciously find I had other plans and be on my way.

I saw a video last year about one of the Rothschild family being found dead in a bathroom. He was young and clearly not aggressive and not cut out for their game. His death was suspect.
That's all I know about that.

[SilentFeathers]

Maybe we can get the Rothschild family on our side and fight the Nazi Elites. The Rothschild person also wants freedom and peace for humanity.

If your Uncle Bob burned you with a cigarette lighter every time you fell asleep would you still love him and think he didn't mean it in the morning when you woke up and seen him eating your brother and sister for breakfast???

[Maia Gabrial]

I think that there's a pyramid system within this family, too. Only the top members of the family are the true controllers. Not all of them are bad, it's true; but the evidence has been stacking up overwhelmingly against them. You won't find many who have warm fuzzy feelings about this particular family....
Which begs the question why are YOU trying to convince us?

[Lettherebelight]

Remember Svali? Probably one of the most chilling but real testimonies I have heard. Here's what she had to say about these people...

"These bases are used intermittently to teach and train generational Illuminati in military techniques, hand- to- hand combat, crowd control, use of arms, and all aspects of military warfare. Why? Because the Illuminists believe that our government, as we know it, as well as the governments of most nations around the world, are destined to collapse. These will be planned collapses, and they will occur in the following ways:

The Illuminati has planned first for a financial collapse that will make the great depression look like a picnic. This will occur through the maneuvering of the great banks and financial institutions of the world, through stock manipulation, and interest rate changes. Most people will be indebted to the federal government through bank and credit card debt, etc. The governments will recall all debts immediately, but most people will be unable to pay and will be bankrupted. This will cause generalized financial panic which will occur simultaneously worldwide, as the Illuminists firmly believe in controlling people through finances."

Sorry, here's the link to European families...

http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/the-european-roots-of-the-illuminati-2/

[modwiz]

Is this a joke? Are you serious? Have you actually read anything about these people? I'm sure they are going to run out tomorrow and give away all their money and end the fractional reserve banking system.

Did you stop to think that the dollar bill you are using for your avatar is somewhat controlled by these people? These folks control some of the banks that print and distribute US currency under the guise of the "Federal" reserve which is not part of the government. They manipulated my government into doing this and are using every advantage they can to degrade our economy and way of life. Meanwhile I'm sure they are just a bunch of hyper sensitive humans beings who care about us.

What a bunch of sweethearts these people must be deep down. Wake up bro.

This is the guy who started his posting career by saying the Israeli's were victims of Palestinian propaganda. This is a person who has unique views for a forum like this.

[tenacity1]

Neptun, you didn't see my reply. I will send in PM and repost.

1. How do you know he's a Rothschild?(apparently the top 1 of 13 elite bloodlines) He could be a clone or one of their minions.
2. Have you asked why humanity(especially men) has been oppressed for thousands of years?
3. The elites probably see value in you being a narcissist and want you to work for them, once they are done with you, game over.
4. If this "Rothschild" doesn't have genocide in mind, they simply determined that 7 billion slaves(vs. half billion) are worth more alive than dead.
5. Those elites are world class liars and manipulators and will tell you whatever you want to hear then screw you over for any reason they feel like.
6. I am curious if you have learned anything about when we can see mass arrests, nesara, disclosure, ascension?
7. Good luck, I guess you don't fear torture and death. Yes, alot of people have been brainwashed but that's because of the elite's lies.

Furthermore: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/05/fulford-receives-threat-from-british.html

Fulford explains that the crossword contains a threat to attack Japan with a five kiloton nuclear weapon, and that the threat is linked to the G5 Rothschild banking cartel.

some folks are just gullible and will say and do anything to hang out with those who have money.. Trust the Rothschilds?.. I'd rather have a lobotomy without anesthesia. we are in this mess in America and the world because of the worship of the wealthy.. plain and simple.. Real wealth comes from the soul..

[kcbc2010]

It is so easy to judge them and say they are scum of the earth. But what are we doing ourselves?

Why were Bush and Obama elected? Why are so many people in denial and attack those that want to stop the NWO?

Why do people sign up to fight the globalist imperialistic wars?

Why are people going along with all the lies the Elites spew regarding the Arabic Spring, Climate change etc.

If we have to defeat the Luciferian conspiracy, we need to face all the evils we are part of and forgive ourselves and the Elite.

I know hate and anger are more trendy than forgiveness and love.


Neptun - just an FYI. I decided I'm going to use your last line as my FB status today. Love it. You are so right on about that.

[nearing]

Is this a joke? Are you serious? Have you actually read anything about these people? I'm sure they are going to run out tomorrow and give away all their money and end the fractional reserve banking system.

Did you stop to think that the dollar bill you are using for your avatar is somewhat controlled by these people? These folks control some of the banks that print and distribute US currency under the guise of the "Federal" reserve which is not part of the government. They manipulated my government into doing this and are using every advantage they can to degrade our economy and way of life. Meanwhile I'm sure they are just a bunch of hyper sensitive humans beings who care about us.

What a bunch of sweethearts these people must be deep down. Wake up bro.

This is the guy who started his posting career by saying the Israeli's were victims of Palestinian propaganda. This is a person who has unique views for a forum like this.

On other forums I have been a long time member of, these people with unique views are called trolls or worse, shills.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

I think Neptune, that you are being manipulated by a master sociopath. That is one of their number one traits, to catch and reel in their victims by mimicking true human emotion and creating a trust with with their prey. They are predators. You've probably got this guy jumping for joy and rubbing his hands together knowing that you are trying to clear his family name on an alternative forum.. I'd watch it. When he's done with you and your part- you might be done too. Sociopaths and psychopaths are the exact same thing. I think youd be wise to cut ties and walk away while you still have a chance. Perhaps, Neptun, are you just pretending that you are "friends" with this guy... Or are you a Rothschild yourself and just trying to pose as one of us?
Makes me wonder..

[Mulder]

Don't be fooled by "nice" behaviour, Psychopaths know how to be woolves in sheep's clothing. Anyway, is forcing millions of Greeks, etc. into Austerity what a "nice" person would really do? I think NOT.

[enfoldedblue]

I read very quickly through the responses in this thread, and I didn't see any direct mention of programming. If this was mentioned and I missed it sorry. From what I have read disassociation is very important and is a quality that has been developed and nurtured in these families for many generations. The reason this is so important is that it allows compartmentalized aspects of the personality to be developed. Compartmentalized aspects of personality allow for a ‘front mask’ aspect that has NO IDEA what the back parts are up to. When you are speaking to the ‘front mask’ you are connecting with the friendly, socially acceptable, aspect of the personality. This part truly HAS NO IDEA of the other ‘hidden aspects’ and generally is provided with very little information regarding the overall family plan. However, when removed from public or inappropriate social settings the dark aspects of the personality can come to the forefront. These aspects know exactly what is going on and it is here that the family secrets are kept. This is one of the reasons these people have been able to maintain such a high level of secrecy and thrive.

[tenacity1]

I think Neptune, that you are being manipulated by a master sociopath. That is one of their number one traits, to catch and reel in their victims by mimicking true human emotion and creating a trust with with their prey. They are predators. You've probably got this guy jumping for joy and rubbing his hands together knowing that you are trying to clear his family name on an alternative forum.. I'd watch it. When he's done with you and your part- you might be done too. Sociopaths and psychopaths are the exact same thing. I think youd be wise to cut ties and walk away while you still have a chance. Perhaps, Neptun, are you just pretending that you are "friends" with this guy... Or are you a Rothschild yourself and just trying to pose as one of us?
Makes me wonder..
what he said times two... I live in a town where the rich of that ilk have their tentacles in everything and I mean everything. You talkDark Cabal and this town has it all. Yet, if I told you the name of it, you'd say "oh there are so many good folks there" Yes there are but they are GUTLESS when it comes to standing up to the rich.. I'd rather have my teeth drilled without anestesia than ever trust those people.. I don't hate them.. I don't fear them..BUt trust them.. NAW

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm thinking that Neptun is a Rothschild and a shill....

[bearcow]

I'm thinking that Neptun is a Rothschild and a shill...

any evidence to support your claim?

[Cidersomerset]

Of Course all corporate families have spin doctors ....

The Queen has the conservative Party and other lackys

and Hitler had Goebbels etc...

So not all Rothchilds maybe meglamaniacs

Of Course all corporate families firms needs PR after all....


This Story is on the BBC News Site...

16 May 2012 Last updated at 10:02

The Wildlife Trusts celebrate centenary year
By Daniel Boettcher Environment Correspondent
A rare red squirrel sitting on a branch at Brownsea Island Nature Reserve A red squirrel at Brownsea Island Nature Reserve
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The movement that led to the formation of the Wildlife Trusts is 100 years old on Wednesday.

Banker and naturalist Charles Rothschild bought Woodwalton Fen in Camridgeshire in 1910, founding the Society for the Promotion of Nature Reserves on 16 May 1912.

16 May 2012 Last updated at 10:02Share this pageEmailPrint172ShareFacebookTwitterThe Wildlife Trusts celebrate centenary yearBy Daniel Boettcher Environment CorrespondentA rare red squirrel sitting on a branch at Brownsea Island Nature Reserve A red squirrel at Brownsea Island Nature ReserveContinue reading the main storyRelated StoriesNature boost for 12 English sitesProtected areas 'failing species'The movement that led to the formation of the Wildlife Trusts is 100 years old on Wednesday.Banker and naturalist Charles Rothschild bought Woodwalton Fen in Camridgeshire in 1910, founding the Society for the Promotion of Nature Reserves on 16 May 1912.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18013101

[Cidersomerset]

Just seen this a message to the UK government to sell its stakes in our bailed out Banks at a loss..

I wonder who would buy up the cheep shares we paid for ????

Government should start cutting bank stakes - Rothschild banker...

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20127/r.jpg


(Reuters) - Government should sell part of its stakes in state-backed lenders Lloyds and Royal Bank of Scotland at a loss to kickstart a disposal process that should see investors pay more at later offerings, a senior Rothschild banker told lawmakers.

"It is a good strategy to start a disposal programme with the first tranche at the lowest price," Adam Young, joint head of equity advisory at Rothschild, said on Tuesday.
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"The loss is worth taking today because it is part of a programme," he told the Treasury Select Committee, which was taking evidence on the potential disposal of government stakes in Lloyds and RBS.

Britain is sitting on a loss of over 25 billion pounds ($40 billion) from its 45 billion pound rescue of RBS in 2008. It also faces a 12 billion pound loss on Lloyds after pumping in 20 billion to save that business.

Young said there was concern among investors that RBS senior management could be hounded out by media and public fury over pay rewards before restoring the bank to health.

RBS chairman Philip Hampton and chief executive Stephen Hester waived their 2011 bonuses after politicians from across the board called on them to refuse the awards.

Robert Talbut, chairman of the Association of British Insurers, told the committee he too was worried by the furore that surrounded Hester's pay award and the perception of government interference in general.

"The company is still susceptible to being run as a political football. That perception is there," he said. "Its ability to retain a commercial management team is going to be severely inhibited if they (RBS management) do not believe they are going to receive a significant market rate."

Britain has held talks to sell part of its 82 percent stake in RBS to Abu Dhabi investors although a sale was not imminent, sources told Reuters in March.

(Editing by Dan Lalor)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/15/uk-rbs-treasury-idUKBRE84E0GG20120515


Two side of the family....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSABlTX8xgsNxauVz55-CS1tPP7DJM3HPpsNxmJ2ttObDXKbx83dQ

The Rothchild family one of the richest of all time !!!

[Cidersomerset]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eno8NXaEoxA/S9zaEk85PYI/AAAAAAAAB5I/SQW5HPa7daU/s640/bullingdon_members_osborne_rothschild.jpg

STUDENT PALS: Osborne (left) and Rothschild became friends in the Bullingdon Club at Oxford Uinversity

Future UK government leaders such as David Cameron and Shadow Chancellor, George Osborne, may have been filmed using drugs and engaged in Sadomasochism and other acts which Hawks’ CAFE alleges could be used to extort official policy from these individuals while they are in positions of power.


Bearing in mind the above post ...Osbourne is Chancellor of the Exchequer (JOKE !!)

Nathanial Tipped for the top in the Banking dynysty!!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_03/rothschildDM0104_228x300.jpg

Nat Rothschild - the 35-year-old scion of the wealthy banking dynasty, one-time black sheep of the family, and now a rising star in his own right.
Earlier this month, the New York Times highlighted his extraordinary metamorphosis from playboy to hedge fund prince, and tipped him as "a kingmaker in his own right, and an investor who some say may become the richest Rothschild of them all".
An extravagant assertion - but not without some plausibility. Rich-list compiler Philip Beresford says: "He has been on my radar for some time. He jets around the world empire-building, keeping in touch with his deals via the latest satellite communications. He has the years on his side and the right connections.
"What he needs is one of those historic opportunities like the ones seized by his ancestors. If he gets that golden moment, he could be the richest one of his generation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-446056/The-richest-Rothschild-all.html

There maybe something to this Rothchild Conspiricy ...IMHO ..LOL..Steve..

[seehas]

the name rothschild is spread all over europe and the familytree is huge, im pretty sure most of them are nice people and sheeps themselfs, but there are also a few that got into these places at a very young age and they definitly know what is going on ... one name to mention "david baron de rothschild" son of guy rothschild the great-great grandson of German Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1743–1812), who founded the family's banking in the 18th century.

bad sound but interesting interview check minute 4:00 !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cojZ-FyA3o


but remember, its not the name that makes someone good or bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ren%C3%A9_de_Rothschild

this familytree shows the beginning and the root.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TPENtxv9PDI/AAAAAAAAAIc/fsXh4J60J04/s1600/img0335d555boumsg.gif

another interesting thing i found out after checking familymembers in wikipedia is that many of them got maried to cousins.


also stuff like this seems pretty common :

"Georges Pompidou, who would later become President and Prime Minister of France, was recruited by Guy de Rothschild from a job as a teacher, and worked for him from 1953 to 1962, during which time he became the general manager of the Rothschild bank."

[joedjemal]

Neptun, the collapse of the fractional reserve ponzi scheme is exactly the thing that's going to cause the cascading systems failure that's going to kill those 90%.

They created a fundamentally unsustainable system to benefit themselves and its end will kill billions. How can that be bad guy light? And how can you be a former narcisist? It's a lifelong genetic condition.

If they're sociopaths they won't be capable of seeing themselves as in the wrong in any case. Sociopaths rationalise everything bad they do so it's someone else's fault. It's the way they're wired.

[witchy1]

I wasnt going to even answer - but ...........

" ......We talked about peace and forgiveness and I was told the public doesn't want that. We are all kind of a mirror of each other. If the public is in denial of truth and will not take back their freedom and stop lying to themselves, then they are begging bad guys to take advances of them....." what do you suggest we do - kill them to prove we are worthy of life?

and then you say "The Rothschild person also wants freedom and peace for humanity" - sure - once the population has reduced.

The first part is exactly what I would expect a rc to say - They are so far removed from the real world living in their ivory towers - they actually beleive their own propoganda probably since they were brainwashed from birth - they only spout this to justify what they are doing!!!!!! Say it for long enough then you beleive it. The real world in actuality is nothing like they imagine. (and imagine they can only do, because they are not living in the conditions they created for us)
They are a very sick and deluded line of (insert own word here). They alone have enough money to end world poverty and erradicate disease educate all persons provide free energy and much more and they choose to do absolutely nothing about it? That makes them non human to me - Think about it!

"The Rothschild told me they are not saints but the person had never heard of the population reduction thing mentioned in the family." read agenda 21 and fast!
"Why were Bush and Obama elected? " They weren't!
"Why do people sign up to fight the globalist imperialistic wars?" its called brainwashing (helps to be in a depression at the time or under despotic regeime) - remember it was old Mrs Rc who said "if my sons didnt want a war, there would be none"
"and forgive ourselves and the Elite" not a snow balls chance in hell
"It is so easy to judge them and say they are scum of the earth. But what are we doing ourselves?" What exactly do you mean - what are we doing. They are the scum of the earth - a pestilence and a plague who happen to own 90% of the planets wealth. They are the controllers ! The rockers are minions in comparison
"Why are people going along with all the lies the Elites spew regarding the Arabic Spring, Climate change etc" - Who said we go along with it?

"When I began to get in contact with them it felt like I was going to confront the Devil family themselves" OK, so what prompted you to confront them? How did you get access to the inner circle of the most powerful family on earth? Befriend them on fb? randomly ring them for a chat? That in itself is no mean feat.

"I'm a former Narcissist" which rehabilitation program did you enrol in to defeat this personality trait?

Neptun, you really need to justify what you say, give some background and prove what you say is true. Invite whoever it is here, let us ask some questions directly. Id stake my left testicle on the fact that they wont - they dont like the public and dont see why they should justify their action to us plebs. Ask them what the master plan is and come back and let us know so we can prepare. If you can give us something tangible the responses might be more palatable!

[Cidersomerset]

Quote another interesting thing i found out after checking familymembers in wikipedia is that many of them got maried to cousins.

also stuff like this seems pretty common :

"Georges Pompidou, who would later become President and Prime Minister of France, was recruited by Guy de Rothschild from a job as
a teacher, and worked for him from 1953 to 1962, during which time he became the general manager of the Rothschild bank."
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More inbreds ..... Just like royalty ....must be something to do with their 'Annunaki ' blood lines...LOL..Steve

[mexrph]

The Rothschild family financed the South during The Civil War. They wanted to break up our country into several smaller countries and play the same game that they were playing in Europe with the Napoleonic Wars. They also tried to put in a Federal Reserve Bank, but Lincoln stopped them on both counts, for which he paid for with his life. The Rothschild Banking Cartel is one of the most evil forces on the planet. Read some honest history, my friend.

[Mandala]

Are there only ~3 girls in that tree?

[Strat]

Hi, I am curious how you managed to meet with several Rothschild members?

I know you're getting blasted here and I'm not here to do that. I am genuinely curious.

[tenacity1]

the marrying the cousins thing isn't uncommon.. in the distant past before both branches of my family came to America in the early mid and late 1600's they all had married their first cousin for eons and continued to do for years.. When I found out it really explained a few warped relatives. Both branches of my family are mentioned in the 1898 Brief History of the English peoples .the best thing I can say about them.. thank God they lost their money.. they never lost their pretensions . Thank God I left home at 13 and did not grow up to be like them.
I loved what the poster said about how can they sleep at night with all that money.If I had that much I'd do what she/he suggested.. find lots of folks to empower.. I cannot stand to see others suffer and havn't been able to since I was a small child.. Watching the civil rights movement on TV while my Freemason Grandfather called them names was painful.. Those people who have that much money are just horribly insecure..one has to feel sorry for them.To think your life is delineated by money rather than what is in your heart and mind is such a shallow path

[UnrealDreams]

David Icke has been exposing them for years. If you haven't read the first link below, you should. Every evil act in this world committed by governments points directly back at the Rothschilds.


... ROTHSCHILD ZIONISM
But to understand the financial crisis, 9/11 and so much more, it must be spoken constantly. As we begin a new year, amid ever-gathering global tyranny, this information is vital for everyone to know.
link: http://www.davidicke.com/articles/political-manipulation-mainmenu-72/42734-they-dare-not-speak-its-name-rothschild-zionism

Great David Icke video here exposing the scumbags: http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/53211-david-icke-the-bloody-rothschilds

[sigma6]

Wow, I just find it kinda creepy that we got someone on this site proposing the idea that we should all feel sorry and have compassion with the spawn of Rockefellers.

People who are responsible for all the misery, and suffering and ignorance and poverty in the world... as a direct result of their influence over the economies of all the countries in the world... behind all the wars going back to Wellington & Napoleon... millions of deaths... and they did all this just to "survive"? (survive as what?)... one of the biggest kingpins and influences in the private banking cartel system, as we know it today...

Trying to swallow my disgust. Ship of fools.

[SnowyOwl]

The Rottenchild fanily is an opportunist, egocentrical and non-empathic family. History is the proof.

[Cidersomerset]

Well they have a nice portfolio of family homes !!


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[Chester]

I have talked with several Rothschild family members and I had a longer debate with one today, that is in the inner circle of the family. I'm starting to become friends with the person.

What is very strange is that nearly all of them I have talked with are extremely nice and kind people. I can sense they have good hearts, what is weird, because I am on-board with the reptilian satanic theories and have always been uneasy with the Rothschild family and thought they eat children etc.

When I began to get in contact with them it felt like I was going to confront the Devil family themselves.

The Rothschild said the family are not saints and yes they founded both sides in the war to survive. But the person had never heard talks about population reduction and would highly doubt the family was part of that, because of the Jewish history with the Nazis and if the population reduction agenda is true, the person will be part of the 90% and fight against it.

I'm beginning to think that the Rothschild family may only be bad guys light and not New World Order Nazis and they are probably being framed by other more powerful Elites to take the blame?

Yes they do Fractional Reserve banking etc. (Bad guys light)

Those calling for population reduction are not Rothschild family members. I have never seen them publicly call for it.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-population-reduction-agenda-for-dummies.html

Maybe we can get the Rothschild family on our side and fight the Nazi Elites. The Rothschild person also wants freedom and peace for humanity.

I am certain David de Rothschild is one of the coolest cats on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mayer_de_Rothschild

I would definitely hang out with that guy but that's just me... how many folks have crossed on foot BOTH poles?

Most human beings have a terrible habit or imposing guilt bases on associations. That is why I personally have stopped assuming so much of what one can read on the internet from this lovely alternative crowd (of which I am one) is guaranteed to be true.

Still, there are things going on around this planet which my intuition meter gets pegged and so I have my suspicions about some of the matters purported on sites such as this.

Still, I found that keeping my feet on the ground and not jumping on the band wagon of others is a wise way to be. And also, my problem is that I love everyone anyways - even people who bug the hell outa me.

[Prodigal Son]

While I have no doubt that the globalist elite have been employing many different methods of population reduction, and they have indeed killed millions and possibly billions, the cold hard truth is that it is just not working. From the PrisonPlanet link on the first page of this thread....

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-population-reduction-agenda-for-dummies.html


We have compiled a compendium of evidence to prove that the elite have been obsessed with eugenics and its modern day incarnation, population control, for well over 100 years and that goal of global population reduction is still in full force to this day.

What a riot! So let's have a look at just the last 60 years....

https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world%20population%20chart

The chart shows that world population had grown from 3 billion in 1960 to 7 billion in 2011. So whatever the elite population reductionists are doing, it is like trying to bail out of the Titanic with a shot glass.

I am of the opinion/belief system that ultimately, there are forces and processes at work here on earth that transcend the globalist mafia and their agenda. They are in the business of Anti-evolution while the rest of us are in the business of evolving into Gods. They provide the resistance, without which there could be no evolution. There are on a leash, and that frustrates the hell out of them.

So, I like Edgar Cayce's revelation that world population is being ALLOWED to grow to such extremes in order to accommodate the reincarnation of billions of souls from Atlantis/Lemuria et al at this time because of the "shift", the quantum leap that mankind is in the process of taking right at this very moment in time. It is up to us as a collective soul group to take it to the next level. The dark cabal are just unwillingly participating in the will of God by serving their own interests the way they do.

As for the Rothschilds, I'm sure they are very "nice". It should be pretty well known by now that the greatest evildoers among them are also the worlds greatest philanthropists. It's part of their twisted religion/belief system. They are extremely gifted at coming off as benevolent and hiding their agenda. After all, they don't even have to act, because they honestly believe that the world can't survive without them and they are doing all of us a favor. Just the fact that they acknowledged the family funding both sides of war says it all. And the reason was for their "survival"? How amusing. Their "survival" kills hundreds of millions and injures hundreds of millions more, while making life a living hell for everyone. But they always find a way to justify these things.