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Alex Laker
15th May 2012, 02:17
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?

Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...

But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.

Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?

We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.

Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?

I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.

In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.

RMorgan
15th May 2012, 02:28
Hey Araxes,

Nice question.

I believe that high level telepathy can actually be done in such way that one can choose if he wants to make the "conversation" available to everyone or keep it private.

Cheers,

Raf.

Hervé
15th May 2012, 02:29
Intresting for me to realize how deep the PTB programming runs within the minds of individuals... the mind boggles!

So, let me give a different perspective: it's not a matter of evolution, it's a matter of appropriate, effective practice.

See this page to get started on it: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm

Happy learning!

Anchor
15th May 2012, 02:31
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?

Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...

But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.

Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?

We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.

Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?

I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.

In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.

Yes I am :) (me and wife have times of telepathy - doesn't bother me or her in the slightest)

Also if you are not comfortable with it, it doesn't happen, not naturally anyway - evolution is cool like that - it respects our distorted ego's as necessary.

Problems start when people start to force the issue - either through distorted approaches to spiritual practises or via dodgy technology.

Maia Gabrial
15th May 2012, 02:39
As I understand it, there NEVER has been privacy for us. It's just another illusion we have. We are watched and monitored every moment of our lives by many beings, so those who think that what they're doing in secret dark places, behind closed doors, violating another person or performing a vile human sacrifice underneath the Vatican, they're only fooling themselves.

Maybe if people realized that they're always being watched that they may take the time to act, say or think better thoughts.... THEY'RE WATCHING!

the_vast_mystery
15th May 2012, 02:54
I'm of a mixed bag, on one hand I'd be very hesitant to open my mind to your average person because with how much sexual demonization still exists in society. I know that there are a lot of people who if they could see every thing I think, rather than just what I do, would probably be revolted and want to burn me at the stake. But then again, on the other hand if they saw everything that preceded it they might actually be more understanding and less judgmental. I just know I'm very careful who I allow to handle my baggage lest they decide to chuck me out the window with it! :p

Alex Laker
15th May 2012, 03:01
I'm of a mixed bag, on one hand I'd be very hesitant to open my mind to your average person because with how much sexual demonization still exists in society. I know that there are a lot of people who if they could see every thing I think, rather than just what I do, would probably be revolted and want to burn me at the stake. But then again, on the other hand if they saw everything that preceded it they might actually be more understanding and less judgmental. I just know I'm very careful who I allow to handle my baggage lest they decide to chuck me out the window with it! :p

Ha! We're all so... human... :biggrin:

animalspirits
15th May 2012, 09:02
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?

Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...

But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.

Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?

We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.

Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?

I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.

In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.

I speak telepathically with not only the species of Earth but those that are not of Earth (Alien). I am 72 y.o. and have had the ability to do this for as long as I can remember. For me, it is actually a more normal means of communication than speech.

I have never felt that communication at this level is an intrusion on my personal space as I am able to block it if I want to.

Also, I am not afraid of it. I believe it is the fear of this type of communication that makes Humans shy away from perfecting it as a means of communication.

If one wants to communicate with Alien species or other species on Earth, one must be able to do it telepathically because that is how they communicate.

Telepathy also allows for the use of phases/ideas/words that we do not have in the oral Human language...so it provides for a much more diverse and complete means of communication.

I have never attempted to invade the personal space of another species in order to know what they are thinking. IMO, that would be a grave intrusion into the other species' personal space. I believe that in this day and time there is far too much intrusion and lack of respect for the personal space of all species.

Debra
15th May 2012, 09:52
Telepathy is a natural thing. I think the more that people accept that their sudden thoughts about someone, or the feeling that thoughts are coming from someone is telepathic communication - then maybe we can really progress into accepting that transparency is both necessary and unavoidable.

However, if someone attempts to manipulate your thoughts, that is different - invasive.

Also, I think we have a function that we already use, and that is to put a personal, shield around ourselves, so we can have privacy too - or just to have a rest from the noise of the world and other dimensions. Animalspirits explains this quite well.

I am quite sure that I have had very strong telepathic communication between myself and people living 1000s of miles away. Always a lovely thing, and then to prove as well. Whenever I am in some distress, for example, there are key people who will be contacting me within hours. And I mean all of the key people in my life will contact me at these times.

I am also ''hearing'' more ''voices'' in my day to day. And I have started to accept this .. as ''others'' coming in ... their advice has been pretty sound too. When I tune in, I always ask for higher beings, those who have care for my highest good, to enter only. I have only discerned that I was in ''a conversation with ETs'' a couple of times. Most of my telepathic exchanges otherwise are with spirits passed, family members, and I think guides - still would like to know who they are.

I am still trying to work all of this out.

Nice thread,
Zebra

Fred Steeves
15th May 2012, 10:01
Hi Araxes, I think being telepathic is our natural state of being, like many other things we've forgotten. Seems like it's time to start remembering again, so hell yes I'm all for it.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Cheers,
Fred

Kindred
15th May 2012, 10:09
YES... When it happens, I will feel that 'It's About Time!"

I Also feel The Reason we, as a species, has been having all these problems is Because we Cannot communicate effectively. With telepathy, this communication barrier is broken. No one could tell a lie, or be deceitful, as their deception or malfeasance could not be hidden.

Think of a World where Truth is All that is Known...

I Cherish this Thought!

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

joedjemal
15th May 2012, 10:10
I've experienced telepathy quite frequently. Sometimes it's subtle but sometimes, with some people, it's full on and conscious level. You can send and receive anything you can think like images, moving or still, music and other sounds, tactile sensations and smells and even completely abstract non verbal concepts that can't be communicated any other way like the visualisation of 4d objects or complex numbers for example. From my own experience the other person only hears what their partner wishes them to hear but it requires a level of internal discipline to keep it all clear. I try not to allow random thoughts in my head in any case but before I had that level of discipline I wasn't comfortable with telepathy.

It doesn't bother me now but there's no one in my life at the moment who can do it, they don't turn up often.

modwiz
15th May 2012, 10:58
Lack of telepathy came about when we sought to deceive. The privacy of our inner sanctum is not violated by telepathy which is at a personal layer deeper than the one that is shared in telepathic communication. It is like the difference between a porch and the inside of the house. Problems arise when we want to deny or affirm the existence of a porch chair that is, or isn't, there. How we got to this deceptive place as common practice is another story. The native psychism of our species is assaulted and made invalid by our rearing.

To answer the question of the OP. To be honest, not completely, but only because of the frightful ignorance that creates lack of comprehension of the ways and morals of more enlightened minds. 9eagle9 and Jorr Lundstrom come to mind for me. They are often taken to task for their forward thinking opinions. Telepathy would not change this dynamic.

So, the basic answer to the OP is yes or no. The reasons for either are the story of how we, as a planetary people, got to the place we find ourselves currently.

panopticon
15th May 2012, 11:23
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?
Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...
But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.
Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?
We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.
Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?
I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.
In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.

G'day Araxes,

Excellent post and thread!

I say what I mean and mean what I say so no worries about being "caught out" in a lie though omissions and "white lies" are a general "sin" of any well meaning person under certain circumstances (yes, I will say "that tastes wonderful" if it would hurt my 83 year old Mothers feelings to say otherwise). So, though telepathy may make it harder to not hurt my Mothers feelings about her consommé and nigh on impossible to throw a surprise party, in general I view I would have little trouble with the experience.

In relation to telepathy being used in general surveillance or invasion of privacy.
When people walk down the street they don't see or hear everything. Our perception is filtered by various factors that effect the way we see and interact with the world. I am not saying that we don't perceive everything on a subconscious/instinctual level rather that we are unable to consciously process the amount of information that our senses gather.

I don't think there would be any difference in telepathic/empathic perception. Yes, we would perceive the whole, but the level of conscious perception (or maybe "usable memory" would be better) of that whole would be limited, by our nature, and as a result reflective of our own understandings (ie we would still only "see" what we wanted to "see").

Interpersonal relations would be less manipulative as the conscious actions (or omissions) of an individual would be easier spotted (eg "games" played by individuals to control others) however this would not necessarily be the case with compulsive, habitual, pathological or chronic liars. Nor for that matter in the case of psychopaths who may not present immediately as liars, though their propensity for manipulation may well be easier spotted.

The need for the written word would still exist (unless telepathic communication is not limited by spatial and/or temporal factors, which I think would make the entire experience too over powering and render the individual non-responsive/autistic) so as to be able to convey information over both distance and time. I often read the writings of great minds from the past and telepathy would not assist in this nor in conveying my impressions/understandings to others without a certain physical proximity. Of course the distance factor may not be as relevant when the individuals are closely acquainted and directed communication may be possible in this instance (under certain circumstances) but still the general transference of information to an "unknown other" would be problematic if not impossible.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

PurpleLama
15th May 2012, 11:40
I would suggest that the need for secrets and deception is what shut down our collective telepathic abilities, but it is the continuing need to keep secrets from and to deceive ourselves that keeps said paradigm at bay.

Wind
15th May 2012, 11:41
I'm looking forward to it.

WhiteFeather
15th May 2012, 12:10
Im willing to try anything and yes i feel i might be comfortable. Besides I have a NY accent and wouldnt mind losing it to telepathics if so.
We should be able to try it out for the first 30 days and see if it works for us. If it doesn't we can return it perhaps.
I'm all for it. Our friends from the stars utilize this technique and it works for them.

huyi82
15th May 2012, 12:11
i hardly get the telepathic messages but i do get esp with people i am close with, they will project something in thier mind and i will feel. it and feel what they are thinking and then a few moments later they will say what i heard them say in thier head happens all the time, one time my best friend projected a thorght that he wanted a snickers bar i mistook the thorght as my own and went to the shop to buy one as the urge was so strong, when he visited me you know what he had in his hand? you guessd it :)

ive done esp tests with my best friend too and they were 100 perfect no mistakes every picture he was visuaizing i saw very clearly jn my mind we were both taken back by it i knew thenn we have a spiritual connection, a very strong connection that even i couldnt understand.

huyi82
15th May 2012, 12:16
Im willing to try anything and yes i feel i might be comfortable. Besides I have a NY accent and wouldnt mind losing it to telepathics if so.
We should be able to try it out for the first 30 days and see if it works for us. If it doesn't we can return it perhaps.
I'm all for it. Our friends from the stars utilize this technique and it works for them.

all i can say is be careful what you wish for, thankfully i cant read peoples minds at will they can only project a thorght that is strong with them at the time but if i had this gift 24/7 it would drive me mad knowing what everything is thinking all at once, has anyone watched the xmen films when professor X puts that helmet on and he can hear every thought from every human that is what it would feel like to have such a power.

Seikou-Kishi
15th May 2012, 12:31
Ha! I'd be fine with telepathy, it's everybody else who'd have the problem. I'd be designated a municipal mental health hazard. Perhaps I flatter myself lol.

joedjemal
15th May 2012, 12:41
Im willing to try anything and yes i feel i might be comfortable. Besides I have a NY accent and wouldnt mind losing it to telepathics if so.
We should be able to try it out for the first 30 days and see if it works for us. If it doesn't we can return it perhaps.
I'm all for it. Our friends from the stars utilize this technique and it works for them.

all i can say is be careful what you wish for, thankfully i cant read peoples minds at will they can only project a thorght that is strong with them at the time but if i had this gift 24/7 it would drive me mad knowing what everything is thinking all at once, has anyone wqtched the xmen films when that guy in a wheelchair puts that helmet on and he can hear every thought from every human that is what it would feel like to have such a power.

That happened to me when I was 14, it was horrible. It was also my first experience of it. I didn't experience controlled telepathy until about 15 years later. It was with a woman called Helen. We were at a party right at the beginning of the evening before either of us had had a drink (I drank in those days) I said to her in my head "hello, I'm Joe" and much to my surprise she answered me the same way. We had a mental conversation for a while then she came over and said in words "hi Joe". I hadn't been sure I wasn't imagining it until that moment so I asked her if it was real and what she thought about it. She said it was a bit scary but interesting. We became good friends for a while and it happened many more times but then she met someone and went offto have kids and I never saw her again.

When you can hear everyone at once it's like being in a stadium where all the people with the loudest and most painful feelings are screaming their heads off. You soon learn to silence it. I did anyway.

EnergyGardener
15th May 2012, 12:43
Good thread and question, Araxes.

How long would a human survive in a world if everyone openly insulted and inappropriately flirted with their mates?

How long would an unprepared human survive in a telepathic world?

Is that the reality beyond the third dimension?

Is that but one of the reasons those intending to ascend/evolve beyond the third dimension must prepare their hearts and minds for all thoughts: Sent and Received?

Is that preparation a requirement to survive, or perhaps even, to ascend/evolve beyond the third? What percentage of humans are prepared for that right now?

777
15th May 2012, 12:45
I would be more than comfortable with it. I have times with my other half where it happens and we're both comfortable with it. I think it's a natural step in our soul progression that should be welcomed.

DreamsInDigital
15th May 2012, 12:56
I think this is a great thread. I started out with some other psi abilities, but when it came to telepathy. I started learning that with my pony she was / is my mentor and was the one that taught me originally. Then from there I learned to communicate telepathically with other horses. And, made the leap from there to transdimensional telepathy with my group of ET/EDs that I now communicate with daily.

One thing Alex Collier (another contactee) said about telepathy is that there are no secrets with telepathy. He's right, there are none. Not in the sense that they will read your mind without your permission or against your will. More like they can intuitively/empathically sense that you're hiding something or not being honest. And, that has been my experience also with the ones that I communicate with. It's like you just (or they just) know when someone is being deceptive.

I am perfectly comfortable with Telepathy, I almost prefer it over voice communication, it's certainly easier for my brain.

huyi82
15th May 2012, 12:57
That happened to me when I was 14, it was horrible. It was also my first experience of it. I didn't experience controlled telepathy until about 15 years later. It was with a woman called Helen. We were at a party right at the beginning of the evening before either of us had had a drink (I drank in those days) I said to her in my head "hello, I'm Joe" and much to my surprise she answered me the same way. We had a mental conversation for a while then she came over and said in words "hi Joe". I hadn't been sure I wasn't imagining it until that moment so I asked her if it was real and what she thought about it. She said it was a bit scary but interesting. We became good friends for a while and it happened many more times but then she met someone and went offto have kids and I never saw her again.

When you can hear everyone at once it's like being in a stadium where all the people with the loudest and most painful feelings are screaming their heads off. You soon learn to silence it. I did anyway.

yep, you have to switch it off or it would if drive you mad the worse case scenario locked up in a hospital for a very long time, my mother was unfortunately put away in hospital for that reason she could see and hear stuff that i couldn't see myself it was heartbreaking to see her suffer like that.

also same with my best friend, i don't talk to him anymore and i haven't seen him for years, i really miss him but what can you do, you just have to get on with life.

huyi82
15th May 2012, 13:08
Good thread and question, Araxes.

How long would a human survive in a world if everyone openly insulted and inappropriately flirted with their mates?

How long would an unprepared human survive in a telepathic world?

Is that the reality beyond the third dimension?

Is that but one of the reasons those intending to ascend beyond the third dimension must prepare their hearts and minds for all thoughts: Sent and Received?

Is that preparation a requirement to survive, or perhaps even, to ascend beyond the third? What percentage of humans are prepared for that right now?

no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.

i think maybe this is the reason we have to prepare for this assention into 4D but i doubt a lot of people will be ready for it which is sad.

modwiz
15th May 2012, 13:23
Good thread and question, Araxes.

How long would a human survive in a world if everyone openly insulted and inappropriately flirted with their mates?

How long would an unprepared human survive in a telepathic world?

Is that the reality beyond the third dimension?

Is that but one of the reasons those intending to ascend beyond the third dimension must prepare their hearts and minds for all thoughts: Sent and Received?

Is that preparation a requirement to survive, or perhaps even, to ascend beyond the third? What percentage of humans are prepared for that right now?

no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.

i think maybe this is the reason we have to prepare for this assention into 4D but i doubt a lot of people will be ready for it which is sad.

You may not be one of them, bit millions of people pay for basic cable and go to the movies. The sickness you address here is the meat and potatoes of news, movies and investigative reports. People love this slop.

As for 4-D, every part of our being is already there. Only our physical part is in 3-D. The fact that people hold onto old emotional wounds and traumas is proof of not being ready for 4-D. These wounds could be resolved in days, if not minutes. It is a matter of will, foregiveness, emotional maturity and not needing a wounded victim persona to use for excuse making.

I am sure most would agree they would heal a broken leg in a minute with their mind/will if it could be done. Why do people persist on not healing their emotional wounds and traumas? There are no valid reasons, just excuses. The only valid reason might be bad DNA and then sterilization would be in order.

How's that for some hard thoughts to ponder?

Billy
15th May 2012, 13:28
No more deceit, no more lies, no more child abuse, no more children being kidnapped. no more hidden corruption. We would be able to tune into the warmongerers making plans for more destruction on earth and say :stop: :nono:

bring it on

peace

EnergyGardener
15th May 2012, 13:43
Good thread and question, Araxes.

How long would a human survive in a world if everyone openly insulted and inappropriately flirted with their mates?

How long would an unprepared human survive in a telepathic world?

Is that the reality beyond the third dimension?

Is that but one of the reasons those intending to ascend beyond the third dimension must prepare their hearts and minds for all thoughts: Sent and Received?

Is that preparation a requirement to survive, or perhaps even, to ascend beyond the third? What percentage of humans are prepared for that right now?

no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.

i think maybe this is the reason we have to prepare for this assention into 4D but i doubt a lot of people will be ready for it which is sad.

The other questions:

If cleaning-up one's thought is a requirement to exist beyond the third, and if the Earth is leaving the Third:

Is the effort of the pure heart the deciding and separating factor, that must be accomplished by the conscious will and effort of each and every soul? Is that but one of the purposes of karmic cleansing, babtism and other means of releasing guilt to self and others—So that, the unprepared will remain in the 3rd (on a lower dimension Earth or elsewhere) to continue to sort things out, while those that are prepared are "substantially" separated from the presence, thoughts and deeds of those that yet haven't?

Or, will our Earth, Sun, Galaxy, Universe and all ET, ED and T's together raise all vibrations, causing humans with negative thoughts to instantly evolve with downloaded knowledge and understanding, to lose the illusion and purpose for negative, selfish and envious thoughts and deeds, to therefore, from that point on—generate only good ones?

Perhaps the answer/s involves both and in between the two options above: Perhaps those that work at it evolve to the fifth, those that do not evolve to the fourth. As, for the extremes that remain at the third (and the fourth) in the far reaches: I do not believe it is possible—or wish—for those that have perpetuated so many crimes against humanity, to get a free pass to automatically move on with those that have not worked at either (perhaps to the fourth) and those that worked hard to accomplish the evolved result (to the fifth).

Nerge
15th May 2012, 14:05
I think this is a great thread. I started out with some other psi abilities, but when it came to telepathy. I started learning that with my pony she was / is my mentor and was the one that taught me originally. Then from there I learned to communicate telepathically with other horses. And, made the leap from there to transdimensional telepathy with my group of ET/EDs that I now communicate with daily.

One thing Alex Collier (another contactee) said about telepathy is that there are no secrets with telepathy. He's right, there are none. Not in the sense that they will read your mind without your permission or against your will. More like they can intuitively/empathically sense that you're hiding something or not being honest. And, that has been my experience also with the ones that I communicate with. It's like you just (or they just) know when someone is being deceptive.

I am perfectly comfortable with Telepathy, I almost prefer it over voice communication, it's certainly easier for my brain.

If you have any tips for developing this then please share. :)

I've tried visualising intentions etc to my cats but I'm not sure how effective I am - sometimes they seem to move where I ask but whether that's a fluke or not I don't know - or most likely them taking pitty on my feeble attempts to communicate via thought. :)

When it comes to my partner, we do seem to be having more situations where we're thinking the exact same thing, at the same time, and not simply due to a trigger that we've both just seen. She was thinking about something random the other day and I asked her if it was 'X' and it was - which was a pretty random subject for her to be thinking about for me to just guess but there you have it.

Often I've had the thought in recent years of "this would be so much easier and faster to just telepathically get this thought or conversation across right now" - in the sense that speaking out loud is so very slow and limited - or perhaps I'm just being lazy! ;)

Arrowwind
15th May 2012, 14:14
Aye! I'd have great fun!

Carmody
15th May 2012, 14:24
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?

Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...

But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.

Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?

We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.

Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?

I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.

In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.

It does not quite work that way... even in the spaces where density is different. Where intellect and will form reality and matter is the lesser component.

In those spaces polite distance is the norm, and minds do not integrate willy-nilly, without invite or agreement in both/all parties. Individualism is the deal but in a far lesser level than it is here, in a place where matter is the highest density and will and individualism are the weaker components. Matter/particle are 'individual' here but as they are the more primary component, then it is more automatic.

Now, to understand the bardo and the animalsm, the violence of what we might call satanism, or that of Typhon, the 1000 eyed beast of the hells. Does it make a bit more sense now? individualism with out reason and caring, that slips into a violent and enforced collective, based on residual (untamed, originated from the avatar-body) fears that are exacerbated?

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There is an intermediate stage where will and energetic connection of the individualism, or AWARENESS.... is the extension of capacity and ability to form or hold reality.

Knowing stills the fears, but the animal fear that has collected ...desires you to remain in ignorance, this...in order for it to be alive. One of the lessons we need to learn the most, the dangers of such things. Thus, it is prominent.

Thus, individualism is to be entertained to the fullest in this space (here, now), but compassion aids the coming, it is a major component of the forming of awareness in this space (here, now). The 3d reality, the animal box, the avatar one occupies.. with an autonomous 'training wheel' duality mind aspect as part of the avatar one occupies, that is the beginnings ---of learning.

Individualism outside of regionalism, nationalism, religion, or any other collective mindset that is outside of the extension and expansion of one's individual growth in the ares of compassion and intelligence, ie, awareness.

Only in that way, can one have individualism that can handle other individuals in a dimensional space that has thought and will as the major components over that of matter.

If here, in this space, we learn no real form of compassionate individualism and growth of mind/self/awareness, but stray into the animal side of collectivism, be it fascism, fascistic originated socialism, repressive regimes, etc, we learn it's opposite. Animal originated and careless, mindless vicious capitalism is also such a danger. Ie, individualism with no social repercussions is 'insanity' as well (extreme capitalism could be called: brutal feudalism -with money).

However, learning the reflection or learning the dangers of the collective as a hive (animal body/avatar training wheels that are getting out of control) is ALSO key to knowing the difference of one over the other. One must learn by being and doing, in order to know the value in not being those things.

See these things as they are; Lessons on how not to be, lessons that must be lived before their dangers are truly cognated (understood) as being the insanity and incorrectness that they are.

To live (in a mental state that cannot understand anything else-while it is being lived, to make it full and as real as is possible) the kinds of incorrectness that will fail in being a workable environment in a universe, a place where thought and will are the primary driving forces.

That is the place you really come from, and this 3d time based world and universe is a place of lessons, lessons of this nature, that are being learned.

And learned to the fullest they will be.

Carmody
15th May 2012, 15:04
No more deceit, no more lies, no more child abuse, no more children being kidnapped. no more hidden corruption. We would be able to tune into the warmongerers making plans for more destruction on earth and say :stop: :nono:

bring it on

peace

the universe does indeed direct us into the animal based gauntlet. It always turns us toward the wall of the self/body/avatar...that we must overcome. We are directed into having to face the wall of avatar based self that we need to overcome or see for what it is. All the 'evils' of the world..for one reason alone.

So, if we wish it, we will it, we do it. Thus we need to, as they say...put our backs into it.

Individually, in some form of a committed totality.

DreamsInDigital
15th May 2012, 15:32
If you have any tips for developing this then please share. :)
I'm still trying to figure out how to form some tips for people that want to develop it. Being my first teacher for this is a pony, and then I had a lot of experiences with horses, then made the leap from there to 5D off worlders. I think my best advice is think of the ability like a muscle the more you use it the stronger it gets, but you have to also mix in the concept of water and emotions, just letting it flow. And, figuring out the proper balance, if you push to hard it wont work, and if you don't put enough energy behind it. Then nothing will happen.

If you can find a friend that is already telepathic to help mentor you and do some "exercises" even better. I know one book that helped me initially (not so much with telepathy, but in general with psi abilities) is a book called "Heaven and Earth: Making The Psychic Connection." by James Van Praagh. Trusting in your self and your abilities, and also trusting the information you receive, learning to determine what is your own thoughts and what comes from outside sources is also important.

My first telepathic experience that I'm consciously aware of (and I'm sure there were many others, just I either don't remember them or didn't recognize them as telepathy). My mother, my pony and I were in a large grass meadow behind the stables where I had boarded her at the time. Mom and I were standing and talking while my pony grazed, I had her by her lead rope but was barely holding on. And was just looking around for the most thickest greenest patches of grass as I know those are my pony's favorite. I saw one and told Mom that would likely be her next spot. A few moments later, in my mind I got the image of that patch of grass, and right after my pony went to that patch and started munching on it. I asked my human mentor that's a horse behaviorist about the experience, and he explained to me what it was, and gave me some exercises to work on with my pony, and it went from there. As they say, the rest is history.

You can work on exercises with your partner, practice just sending and receiving. Try words first, then when you get those ...move onto symbols and images. That was one of the exercises that Gawani my mentor gave me to work on with my pony. More though with her, it was for me to just think what I wanted her to do and get to the point where I was literally "riding with my mind", the ultimate unity and bond with a horse or pony, to be so connected that becomes second nature and cues become literally invisible. It took time, not on her side because my pony wanted more than anything to communicate with me on much deeper levels, what took time for me was trusting my self and my ability and learning to notice/recognize what was mine and what was her's. And, not second guess any of it.

Maia Gabrial
15th May 2012, 15:42
no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.


IF people knew that their thoughts were open to everyone, WOULD they have those horrible thoughts to begin with? I mean EVERYONE would know what's going through their minds....

I honestly feel the race being telepathic would a good deterent... Even though it wouldn't be necessary, those with that kind of thinking would probably find themselves in re-education programs set up just for that....

pugwash84
15th May 2012, 15:55
If they knew that people knew what they was thinking maybe they wouldn't think that way. There would be no secrets, no fighting, no war and no deceit as everyone would be in the know. BUT there would be no quiet place to contemplate personal thoughts. Would it be like a Borg Collective? Maybe.....

Maia Gabrial
15th May 2012, 16:41
yep, you have to switch it off or it would if drive you mad the worse case scenario locked up in a hospital for a very long time, my mother was unfortunately put away in hospital for that reason she could see and hear stuff that i couldn't see myself it was heartbreaking to see her suffer like that.


huyi82,
It's sad that people, especially your mom, are made to feel that "hearing" things is abnormal or a sign of psychotic behavior. IMO it's NOT! We share a world with many lifeforms who are just outside of our visual range. They've always existed there. It's only now that increased energies are helping people "see" beyond this reality. Instead of freaking out, people should accept the fact that this is normal to life.

Your mother was unfortunate in that she was victimized by the same system that wants to hide all things from us. If there had been someone there to reassure her, hospitalization would have been unncessary. I'd say that your mother IS a gifted woman to be able to see (clairvoyance) and hear (clairaudience) beyond the norm. She still is....

But there might have been something else that played out in her life. I'm only suggesting, huyi82.....FYI. She may have been a targeted individual for electronic harassment by scumbags, probably black ops.... No one knows what the criteria is for choosing people, but there is nothing coincidental about it.... You'll constantly hear voices making horrible suggestions to harm yourself or others; saying humiliating or degrading things about you and they never let up until you finally give in.... Pathetic that this happens.

If you go to James Horak's blogspot: http://www.emvsinfo.blogspot.com

there are 2 articles by a woman named Lily Morgan who was a TI because of someone she met. Her story is shocking, but worth reading. Maybe if you read about HER horrible ordeal, it maybe similar to your mom's..... Knowledge and awareness are good steps in fighting this type of harassment. Not all of them, just some of them.....
Thank you for sharing your mom's story....

EnergyGardener
15th May 2012, 16:44
If they knew that people knew what they was thinking maybe they wouldn't think that way. There would be no secrets, no fighting, no war and no deceit as everyone would be in the know. BUT there would be no quiet place to contemplate personal thoughts. Would it be like a Borg Collective? Maybe.....

That is one of my questions: Does one have the option to think without being listened to—at least privacy from those on the same dimension?

If not, then (speaking for myself) I still have some reprogramming to do.

Alex Laker
15th May 2012, 16:48
So we have the division between empathy and telepathy. Responsible telepathy first requires you to develop your empathic abilities, with both being states of mind. We need to let go and exude openness. Under the pretence that there are no secrets, there would be none.

With empathy, I think, all bad thoughts would have shared responsibility, because we instantly realise that we are capable of thinking the same thing, and because we are human and have instincts which turn into thoughts we often cannot control or surpress. There should be no embarassment about being human.

It is remembering who you are within yourself, and remembering we are all fundamentally the same, which allows you to understand and empathise with those around you. You must be comfortable with yourself to be comfortable with telepathy.

And actually, it's a very egoistic question I have asked. I am asking how does it affect your self to realise that your self is not necessarily separate from the consciousnesses of others? On a human level, the ego likes privacy, and the question that anyone should have the right to violate that is horrifying.

I think it is programmed into us to accept that we should keep secrets. Governments and corporations crave our secrets because they use them to control us. But really, this is a kind of vicious circle which traps us into thinking we need to avoid harmonious, open social interaction altogether. By being limited to words alone we cannot adequately unite ourselves into the counteractive force we know we could be.

EnergyGardener
15th May 2012, 16:54
So we have the division between empathy and telepathy. Responsible telepathy first requires you to develop your empathic abilities, with both being states of mind. We need to let go and exude openness. Under the pretence that there are no secrets, there would be none.

With empathy, I think, all bad thoughts would have shared responsibility, because we instantly realise that we are capable of thinking the same thing, and because we are human and have instincts which turn into thoughts we often cannot control or surpress. There should be no embarassment about being human.

It is remembering who you are within yourself, and remembering we are all fundamentally the same, which allows you to understand and empathise with those around you. You must be comfortable with yourself to be comfortable with telepathy.

And actually, it's a very egoistic question I have asked. I am asking how does it affect your self to realise that your self is not necessarily separate from the consciousnesses of others? On a human level, the ego likes privacy, and the question that anyone should have the right to violate that is horrifying.

I think it is programmed into us to accept that we should keep secrets. Governments and corporations crave our secrets because they use them to control us. But really, this is a kind of vicious circle which traps us into thinking we need to avoid harmonious, open social interaction altogether. By being limited to words alone we cannot adequately unite ourselves into the counteractive force we know we could be.

Araxes,

Perhaps it is easy to let go of privacy if there is no further purpose for it.

Alex Laker
15th May 2012, 17:01
So we have the division between empathy and telepathy. Responsible telepathy first requires you to develop your empathic abilities, with both being states of mind. We need to let go and exude openness. Under the pretence that there are no secrets, there would be none.

With empathy, I think, all bad thoughts would have shared responsibility, because we instantly realise that we are capable of thinking the same thing, and because we are human and have instincts which turn into thoughts we often cannot control or surpress. There should be no embarassment about being human.

It is remembering who you are within yourself, and remembering we are all fundamentally the same, which allows you to understand and empathise with those around you. You must be comfortable with yourself to be comfortable with telepathy.

And actually, it's a very egoistic question I have asked. I am asking how does it affect your self to realise that your self is not necessarily separate from the consciousnesses of others? On a human level, the ego likes privacy, and the question that anyone should have the right to violate that is horrifying.

I think it is programmed into us to accept that we should keep secrets. Governments and corporations crave our secrets because they use them to control us. But really, this is a kind of vicious circle which traps us into thinking we need to avoid harmonious, open social interaction altogether. By being limited to words alone we cannot adequately unite ourselves into the counteractive force we know we could be.

Araxes,

Perhaps it is easy to let go of privacy if there is no further purpose for it.

Then those are the questions, my friend. Are we ready to accept that there is no privacy, in light of the fact we have less and less in the modern world. Does this mean there is no further purpose for it?

joedjemal
15th May 2012, 17:21
If they knew that people knew what they was thinking maybe they wouldn't think that way. There would be no secrets, no fighting, no war and no deceit as everyone would be in the know. BUT there would be no quiet place to contemplate personal thoughts. Would it be like a Borg Collective? Maybe.....

My experience suggests it's not like that. You seem to need some pretty solid inner discipline before you can do it and a big part of that discipline are the ethical rules that go with it. It was made absolutely clear to me that you don't go round casually reading the thoughts of others (or remote viewing them either). You just don't do it. Why would I want to know in any case? I spend a great deal of effort silencing my own thoughts. Why would I want to clutter my mind with the thoughts of others? It would pull me off my developmental path to start breaching those rules and I've put in far too much effort to get to the point I have to want to do that.

Sometimes bits and pieces drift in but you can silence them just like your own thoughts. Who could read a silent mind?

Limor Wolf
15th May 2012, 17:31
[QUOTE]no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.

IF people knew that their thoughts were open to everyone, WOULD they have those horrible thoughts to begin with? I mean EVERYONE would know what's going through their minds....


I wonder if that is a good enough reason not to think those thoughts? just because everyone else can tap into it...

Telepathy will require from us the maturity and developement of the soul, and I feel our human being's ability for telepathy will probably increase simultaneously with our own expanded awerness. we are developing with the guidance of the divine order in the universe and it will be available to us at the right time, not one minute before (so, hopefully you will not need to encounter too many poluting thoughts).

The most wonderful thing about telepathy for human beings can be the possibility to unite and 'fly' in the same direction. Animals do it. insects and birds share the same collective mind frame whenever they need to 'take a turn'. if they can at the same time keep their individual expression, than we will be able to do the same just as well.

Maia, we don't know what is happening in the grand universe outside our little planet area, we heard that most of the beings are communicating via telepathy . but it does'nt necessarily mean that there are no wars out there. I would not bet on that. we use the primitive way for our battles, trying to 'surprise' our enemies with the most modern weapons, all kinds of war tactics etc. but,telepathy will not necessarily prevent wars, it will simply divert the tactics into a more sophisticated ones. we, at this time are so much prone to mind control, because of our inability to have any distinction between our own thoughts and ones from an outside origion planted in our minds. Hopefully, communicating via telepathy might change all that, but the main thing is our maturity and spiritual development collectively. Than we will certainly be ready and will welcome it as a natural step in our human evolution.

Selene
15th May 2012, 17:32
That is one of my questions: Does one have the option to think without being listened to—at least privacy from those on the same dimension?

If not, then (speaking for myself) I still have some reprogramming to do.

Yes, of course you can think without being listened to. It's what we commonly call being "lost in thought" or "deep in thought" - that state of wandering deeply and abstractly into your own mind. At that level, external communication requires much, much more highly advanced 'receiver' skills on the part of any observer - and protocol dictates that others not intrude on you there.

You can also learn to 'stop your thoughts' by literally ending whatever train of thought (or emotion) you are on. That requires some mental training, of course, but it is quite easy eventually, although rarely in practice invoked because it can feel like holding your breath too long! A good alternative is to quickly focus on some other thought or idea, but it can be like the "try not to think of an elephant" problem. LOL All these skills are part of your natural mental development as you improve your focus and concetration skills. Meditation, of course, is an excellent teacher.

I hope this is helpful.

Cheers,

Selene

huyi82
15th May 2012, 19:38
huyi82,
It's sad that people, especially your mom, are made to feel that "hearing" things is abnormal or a sign of psychotic behavior. IMO it's NOT! We share a world with many lifeforms who are just outside of our visual range. They've always existed there. It's only now that increased energies are helping people "see" beyond this reality. Instead of freaking out, people should accept the fact that this is normal to life.

Your mother was unfortunate in that she was victimized by the same system that wants to hide all things from us. If there had been someone there to reassure her, hospitalization would have been unncessary. I'd say that your mother IS a gifted woman to be able to see (clairvoyance) and hear (clairaudience) beyond the norm. She still is....

But there might have been something else that played out in her life. I'm only suggesting, huyi82.....FYI. She may have been a targeted individual for electronic harassment by scumbags, probably black ops.... No one knows what the criteria is for choosing people, but there is nothing coincidental about it.... You'll constantly hear voices making horrible suggestions to harm yourself or others; saying humiliating or degrading things about you and they never let up until you finally give in.... Pathetic that this happens.

If you go to James Horak's blogspot: http://www.emvsinfo.blogspot.com

there are 2 articles by a woman named Lily Morgan who was a TI because of someone she met. Her story is shocking, but worth reading. Maybe if you read about HER horrible ordeal, it maybe similar to your mom's..... Knowledge and awareness are good steps in fighting this type of harassment. Not all of them, just some of them.....
Thank you for sharing your mom's story....

yeah it is sad becasue my mother was the one who set me on my spiritual path, my mother is the reason i can see and hear thing others can not, but her gift just took over her life and drove her over the edge, she meditated every day and spoke of the ascended masters, but i just don't know what happened she started to say demons wanted to harm me in her home and screamed at them in front of me, she was beyond help and i had to do something to help her, but ever since she has come out from the hospital shes a different person, she no longer meditates, no longer speaks with wise words but instead talks of christian roman catholics (matrix fake religion), it's not in her nature for her to talk like that, i've lost my mother so i feel alone when it comes to my spiritual awakening, she was the only person i could openly talk about my spiritual problems and i don't have that anymore, only people here would understand that.

as a child my mum said her family was a roman catholic and she said she didn't fit in that is when she turned to the spiritual path, and i always feel guilty for diverting her spiritual path but what else could i have done to help her? she has been like this her whole life fighting with something my mum could see but i could not was difficult, when she screamed at them she looked like she was have a genuine argument with something but i had no idea what it was.

the main thing is she is well now, but shes just not the same, i guess you can't have it both ways, i've tried mentioning meditation to her but she just says pray to jesus christ and i get so confused. :( can anyone recommend me anything that will bring back her spiritual beliefs without them going overboard and overwhelming her?

interesting website, especially about this part:


Mind Rape
When Mind reading and mind control are used against a person it is sometimes refered to as mind rape. The reason is that in general mind reading is not used to observe but instead to control a person in illegal ways or to inflict maximum damage (including death) to a person. Mind rape occurs whenever one's brain feels as though it has been assaulted viciously by some event or thing in reality and when someone can convince and manipulate someone’s thoughts and therefore their actions.


my mum repeatedly said she was violated by something, they were violating her bits she used to scream and shout about this :( some creepy stuff, if this electromagnetic attacks were attacking my mother and trying to get to me according to what she said, why target her? only explanation is becasue of her gift they didn't want her to be spiritually awoken so they did horrible things like this to her, if i didn't intervene she would have died if this article was true or something really bad.

EnergyGardener
16th May 2012, 13:37
huyl82,

Wow, what an experience and education you've had. I am sorry for you and your mother.

Perhaps this is buzzkill for the thread; but I am hoping others put their thoughts into their preparation and readiness for telepathic communication.

EnergyGardener

meat suit
16th May 2012, 20:51
great thread Araxes,

I started a thread in march on how to do telepathy: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43068-Telepaths-how-do-you-do-it
havent got very far yet... so, thanks Amzer Zo for that link... I am looking into that..



Intresting for me to realize how deep the PTB programming runs within the minds of individuals... the mind boggles!

So, let me give a different perspective: it's not a matter of evolution, it's a matter of appropriate, effective practice.

See this page to get started on it: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm

Happy learning!

lisa108
16th May 2012, 21:19
If we all communicated by telepathy life would me much easier. It would be great ! We would understand what is intercommunication between all beings on earth, including the vegetal and animal world. I love this idea, no more liars, transparency, more love.....

Sidney
16th May 2012, 21:39
The replies come in other forms.

Hervé
16th May 2012, 22:53
There is another facet to this abiltiy which stems not so much from individuals with the affinity to reciprocally perform such but from people who fear that their mind and intentions could be laid bare...

And Europe got the Inquisition...

More recently, most kids who exhibited a potential for psychic abilities were raked out of the population by CIA and MI6 (same behind the then "Iron Curtain") to spy on theses organizations' perceived or imagined enemies... and word class chess players started to complain about paranormal interferences... All the while, these same abilities were ridiculed for the larger public consumption.

From someone who's been there, done that... Ingo Swann in his book "Penetration (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_telepathy.htm)":




As I have discussed in other writings, I have always been interested in Psi phenomena, and beginning in 1970 it chanced that opportunities to extend that interest in depth were made available. Anyone with more than a mere superficial interest in Psi phenomena must of course encounter the rather smelly morass of social resistance whereby the authenticity of those phenomena are methodically deconstructed, thus suspending them in doubt.

This social resistance, even if smelly, has largely been successful in destroying all concerted approaches to Psi phenomena. This success is specifically active within high strata of societal power, and which strata are otherwise entirely disinterested in what lesser mortals DO experience along these lines. Why it is that governing societal factors need to deconstruct the provable existence of at least some vital Psi phenomena is therefore something that needs to be examined and understood.

Along these lines of inquiry, the existence and methods of the machinations against Psi development can easily be brought to light. But the reasons that govern the implementation of the machinations none the less remain obscured.

Thus, the societal resistance to Psi breaks neatly into two aspects:

· to prevent Psi development
· to keep obscure the actual reasons for doing so

One reason for the blanket suppression which has been offered up by many before me is that effective formats of Psi would disturb any number of social institutions. Those institutions would feel “threatened” by developed formats of, say, telepathy, which might thereafter be utilized to penetrate their secrets.

[...]

As it happened, however, the events described in Part One of this book occurred beginning in 1975. These are the events I can’t prove. None the less they made somewhat visible another possible aspect that might be factored into the odiferous suppression of Psi that was already familiar to me.

This aspect required that I introduce two unusual terms: Earth-side and Space-side.

These refer, of course, to Earth-side intelligence and Space-side intelligence. The central hypothesis of this book is that if developed Psi potentials would be an invasive threat to Earth-side intelligences, then developed Earth-side Psi would also be a threat to Space-side intelligences. After all, in that telepathy, for example, is invasively defined as reading minds, the distinction between reading Earth-side minds and Space-side minds would be very narrow.

The only real problem in considering this is whether or not Space-siders exist.

[...]

In accumulating this information package, it became possible for me to make the following and quite basic observation, an observation that is easy enough to substantiate.

Telepathy is the most forbidden element of Earth-side consciousness. Indeed, so forbidden that Science would rather accept reincarnation, the existence of the soul, and life after death - PROVIDED those situations DID NOT include any telepathic possibility.

[...]

The work (in developing remote viewing) was largely funded by the U.S. intelligence agencies. Because of this, many Washington types and many noted scientists visited SRI. Very many of them met only with my colleagues, and refused to meet little Moi, so much so that they would not even take lunch with me.

The reason: “Jesús, he can read my mind! I can’t let him get anywhere near me.”

This quote is NOT paraphrased. One of the amusing aspects of this is that IF telepathy is what it is, then one not needs to be in the proximity of a telepath in order to have their mind penetrated. Another amusing aspect is that the funding agencies did sponsor the secret developmental work in remote viewing (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_visionremota.htm) - somewhat on the grounds that it penetrates things, not minds.

This is to say that remote viewing pertains to penetration of “physicals,” not to penetration of “mentals.” In any event, the principal reason why ALL formats of Psi research are marginalized, treated to energetic diminishment, or suppressed altogether is that those formats do include potentials too near the hated and unwanted telepathic faculties. So, the whole barn of psychic research must be burnt down as quickly as possible, making sure that the telepathic horses don’t escape.

There is one notable exception to this, and one utilized for creative cover-up purposes. This exception involves the discovery of approaches to telepathy most noted either for the fact that they DO NOT work, or because they serve to disorient and defeat approaches that MIGHT work. Thus, the concept that telepathy is a mind-to-mind thing involving a sender and a receiver has been given extraordinary publicity - and has in fact become the principal Earth-side cultural model for it.


Intellectual phase-locking into this non-productive model is so intense and so widespread that Earth-siders literally cannot think of telepathy in any other way. With the exception of some few experiments in the former Soviet Union, and in the Peoples Republic of China, the sender-receiver model has not yielded anything more than slightly above-chance results.

Sesan
16th May 2012, 23:43
If humans evolved to a level where we are able to telepathically and empathically communicate, would you be comfortable with people knowing such an intimate level of knowledge about you just by being in your presence?

Sometimes I feel like I could make everyone just understand if I could transfer all my thoughts to their mind and just say there you go - make of me what you will. It feels like it would be a huge relief in many ways...

But what is it that makes us afraid of such a concept? We keep secrets because we lack the trust that those who we reveal them to will not judge us. That is because we know that they do not (or do not know that they) possess empathy.

Would telepathic communication still be voluntary? Rather, mind-reading is a violation on all levels. But an exchange of empathy where two people come together, and instantly know that they can trust one another with all their thoughts and feelings would be an ultimate form of communication. Of course, then, what would make us separate?

We constantly go on about government invasion of privacy this, intelligence agency monitoring this, and we deplore the the use of our 'data' being used by companies. However, these are organisations which lack empathy, nor can we empathise with them.

Has anybody experienced telepathic communication with an extra-terrestrial entity? Was it as if it was reading your mind without your consent? Or did you have some level of control?

I think in the progression of the human race, we have already seen a huge development in empathic communication from only a generation ago. The level of tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles is far higher, for example.

In a way, the Internet has given us this place where all the thoughts of the world are accessible in a given moment. We no longer have to make prejudices based on assumptions or hearsay. It is increasingly rare that we are confronted with unusual cultural situations.


I personally believe that we all have this ability although most of us have forgotten how to use it. I would hope that there would be different levels of telepathic communication, similar to talking loudly or whispering. Perhaps we could choose to talk intimately to only one person if we so desired, or to include as many as one wanted in the coversation.

I have experienced what I would call a 'thought message' from a woman a few years ago. She actually answered a question that I asked her with-out speaking. I heard the word 'yes' in my head, right between my eyes. Sounds weird I know. Probably one of the most exhilarating things I have ever experienced.

I do hope that we will once again have this ability. I'm hopeful.
Sesan

eileenrose
17th May 2012, 05:50
re: "being telepathic".

I'm already empathic and perhaps......sometimes telepathic.
usually I know what numbers people are thinking (helps when buying things).

People just arn't that interesting....otherwise...to me....to want to know their thoughts.
I just use the ability to help people heal/balance within.

pugwash84
17th May 2012, 08:43
Me and my Mum have a connection, she knows when I am upset or in pain and I know the same for her. When I used to live with my Mum she used to find it uncomfortable at times because I knew when she was doing something sneaky. I remember I used to hate Bisto gravy and she was trying to sneak it into the cupboard hoping I wouldn't notice and I shouted to my Mum that I didn't like it and I think things like this was annoying to her.
Also I remember sitting next to my Mums friend and I felt the feeling that he wasn't quite right and I told him to get out and that he was bad. My Mum went mad at me and said sorry to him and he went but then a few years later he was found trying to sweet talk a young girl into bed. Also I was sat next to someone and I didn't know who it was and I burst into tears and everyone looked at me as if i was a looney because there was no apparent reason that I was crying it's because the person sat next to me was so sad on the inside but they wasn't showing it, I could just feel it. So it is a mixture of speaking my mind and knowing things and some people find this uncomfortable which I can understand but sometimes knowing things like if someone is upset and they don't want people to know can be a burden.

Star Tsar
17th May 2012, 08:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h_OmWCFZvXQ

huyi82
22nd May 2012, 22:15
Me and my Mum have a connection, she knows when I am upset or in pain and I know the same for her. When I used to live with my Mum she used to find it uncomfortable at times because I knew when she was doing something sneaky. I remember I used to hate Bisto gravy and she was trying to sneak it into the cupboard hoping I wouldn't notice and I shouted to my Mum that I didn't like it and I think things like this was annoying to her.
Also I remember sitting next to my Mums friend and I felt the feeling that he wasn't quite right and I told him to get out and that he was bad. My Mum went mad at me and said sorry to him and he went but then a few years later he was found trying to sweet talk a young girl into bed. Also I was sat next to someone and I didn't know who it was and I burst into tears and everyone looked at me as if i was a looney because there was no apparent reason that I was crying it's because the person sat next to me was so sad on the inside but they wasn't showing it, I could just feel it. So it is a mixture of speaking my mind and knowing things and some people find this uncomfortable which I can understand but sometimes knowing things like if someone is upset and they don't want people to know can be a burden.

you are a empath, and can feel other peoples feelings, there is a episode in charmed that i like that explains what a empath has to deal with every day, especially if your 6th sense is very strong, it's hard being around people who are emotional, that's why i would never go near a criminal or a mentally disturbed person as you would know what they are thinking, and in your case you would feel what they are feeling which would be even worse as it's overwhelming.


huyl82,

Wow, what an experience and education you've had. I am sorry for you and your mother.

Perhaps this is buzzkill for the thread; but I am hoping others put their thoughts into their preparation and readiness for telepathic communication.

EnergyGardener

thanks for your kind words, i had to deal with her mental problems for such a long time so it wasn't easy, i have experienced good and bad things with my mum being the way she was in the past.



The thing is, I can telepathically communicate to them , and I get a response with flashing lights, or several flashes of light. With my animals, when I "think at them" they immediately turn, look at me, and come and jump up to my lap just as if I had called them out loud. In either case though, I am not able to "hear" any type of vocalizations in my head or anything of that sort. The replies come in other forms.

animals can't speak so it's totally normal for images or sounds to appear in your 3rd eye when you try to communicate with them, this is the only way they can communicate with you, like for example, before my pet cat nightshade came into my life, she would appear in my dreams every night showing images on how she wanted me to adopt her (be her mummy) she didn't speak, she just used images to get her point across, the cat i have now if i tell him in my mind to go and use the litter tray, a couple of seconds later he will go and use it, it's how you communicate with your pets visually, not with voice which they cannot understand.

Maia Gabrial
23rd May 2012, 00:38
yeah it is sad becasue my mother was the one who set me on my spiritual path, my mother is the reason i can see and hear thing others can not, but her gift just took over her life and drove her over the edge, she meditated every day and spoke of the ascended masters, but i just don't know what happened she started to say demons wanted to harm me in her home and screamed at them in front of me, she was beyond help and i had to do something to help her, but ever since she has come out from the hospital shes a different person, she no longer meditates, no longer speaks with wise words but instead talks of christian roman catholics (matrix fake religion), it's not in her nature for her to talk like that, i've lost my mother so i feel alone when it comes to my spiritual awakening, she was the only person i could openly talk about my spiritual problems and i don't have that anymore, only people here would understand that.


Huyi82,

I don't doubt she saw them. Anyone who denies the existence of these dark beings is only fooling themself. These same people may not even realize that they're being victimized by them....

Her only failure was that she DIDN'T know how to handle them. Some people would roll their eyes at this, but LOVE really scares these dark beings. Talk to them as you would any living person with compassion and pure good will. Feel sorry for them. I guarantee you they will go away.... LOVE IS YOUR STRENGTH AND SHIELD. Try to get them to look at the light in the distance that they fear so much. You can hear them scream in terror because these are beings who have forgotten that they're divine beings who are loved as much as any of us.

They're very familiar with hate, fear, violence and all negative emotions. It's foolish to direct any of that at them, because it only feeds them. They like it and thrive on it. But alittle bit of LOVE and COMPASSION sends them screaming in terror... How empowering is that? Makes sense, doesn't it? This I can speak from experience....

On the other hand, Electronic Harassment is something you have to learn to recognize. It's diabolical. If it's coming from people using technologies, then maybe directing your anger at them would would be more productive....I'm not saying you can overcome all of these technologies, but learn to recognize the difference between organic and inorganic voices....

Whatever they did to your mom didn't do her any good. Drugs and brainwashing open her mind to more of the same terror. Worse is that possession is more likely to happen. Just another doorway for them to enter. The system AND religion is not designed to help anyone, only control them..... Maybe you should slowly expose your mom back to the fact that she was right about them all along. The only thing she did wrong was fight negative beings with negativity. Explain to her that the most powerful weapon she has is LOVE. Not the LOVE of someone else. Her own.... It's the same as showing love and compassion for our fellow man.... Only the dark ones are more lost in their illusions.... I feel sorry for them....

jorr lundstrom
23rd May 2012, 01:03
Yes


All is well


Jorr

PHARAOH
23rd May 2012, 12:19
I know we already exercise this capability. We must realize the triggers that have been implanted in our minds over the years, have short circuited this ability. Ask yourself; how many times did you know someone was lying or being deceptive and your mind told you, "you shouldn't think like that", or "don't be that way, your judging", or "you have to trust people". There are too many to name but I know you get the point. This is what is known as "PSYCHIC SELF DEFENSE" We have been programmed not to do so in order to fit in.

Telepathic communication will force us all to look internally and be truthful with ourselves which will lead to true freedom. Knowledge is Power, Power is Truth and the Truth will make us Free!!! :wizard:

<8>
23rd May 2012, 14:25
Hello and thanks for a great subject


Would you be comfortable with telepathic communication?

Yes, because I know who I am.

I don't believe in the conditioned thoughts and emotions I have gathered as information.
My mind is very quiet now and I feel very peaceful.


My view on Telepathy

Telepathy is when you are aware of information you receive, And how do we handel our information right now?.
All information is thoughts and emotions, So most likely you have to put your attention, On a person to pick up that one's information.
Because as we get information through our senses, we also send out information as thoughts and emotions all the time.
So are you able to put your attention on a person and pick up the thoughts and emotions, you would hear and feel everything.

Now, would the person you put your attention on, notice that you are listening?
Not necessarily if you are just listening, but if you put your attention with a though and a emotion.
for example: hello father it's so good to see you, then the person would most likely receive your thoughts and emotions.

The background noise most people carry around with, is the information they have gathered throughout life.
When people think, they are not aware of the old information. Who comes as suggestions through your mind as thoughts and emotions.
Instead people think they are actually thinking that information up, and by doing so, they suffer emotionally.

I see people here who think you can hide your thoughts or that you might have inner+inner thoughts.
That you can keep private from telepathy, that thought is just the ego mind.

If you would get everyone's information around you involuntary into your mind, it would be to much to handel.

I have not yet met a person with telepathy, so no one really knows.
But this is my view on this subject now.

P.s...Only the ego mind would fear telepathy, If your mind is quiet what is there to fear??


..8..

huyi82
26th May 2012, 14:27
yeah it is sad becasue my mother was the one who set me on my spiritual path, my mother is the reason i can see and hear thing others can not, but her gift just took over her life and drove her over the edge, she meditated every day and spoke of the ascended masters, but i just don't know what happened she started to say demons wanted to harm me in her home and screamed at them in front of me, she was beyond help and i had to do something to help her, but ever since she has come out from the hospital shes a different person, she no longer meditates, no longer speaks with wise words but instead talks of christian roman catholics (matrix fake religion), it's not in her nature for her to talk like that, i've lost my mother so i feel alone when it comes to my spiritual awakening, she was the only person i could openly talk about my spiritual problems and i don't have that anymore, only people here would understand that.


Huyi82,

I don't doubt she saw them. Anyone who denies the existence of these dark beings is only fooling themself. These same people may not even realize that they're being victimized by them....

Her only failure was that she DIDN'T know how to handle them. Some people would roll their eyes at this, but LOVE really scares these dark beings. Talk to them as you would any living person with compassion and pure good will. Feel sorry for them. I guarantee you they will go away.... LOVE IS YOUR STRENGTH AND SHIELD. Try to get them to look at the light in the distance that they fear so much. You can hear them scream in terror because these are beings who have forgotten that they're divine beings who are loved as much as any of us.

They're very familiar with hate, fear, violence and all negative emotions. It's foolish to direct any of that at them, because it only feeds them. They like it and thrive on it. But alittle bit of LOVE and COMPASSION sends them screaming in terror... How empowering is that? Makes sense, doesn't it? This I can speak from experience....

On the other hand, Electronic Harassment is something you have to learn to recognize. It's diabolical. If it's coming from people using technologies, then maybe directing your anger at them would would be more productive....I'm not saying you can overcome all of these technologies, but learn to recognize the difference between organic and inorganic voices....

Whatever they did to your mom didn't do her any good. Drugs and brainwashing open her mind to more of the same terror. Worse is that possession is more likely to happen. Just another doorway for them to enter. The system AND religion is not designed to help anyone, only control them..... Maybe you should slowly expose your mom back to the fact that she was right about them all along. The only thing she did wrong was fight negative beings with negativity. Explain to her that the most powerful weapon she has is LOVE. Not the LOVE of someone else. Her own.... It's the same as showing love and compassion for our fellow man.... Only the dark ones are more lost in their illusions.... I feel sorry for them....

great post i will tell her that, she just didn't have the willpower to fight them off and i felt helpless to be able to do anything for her.

unicorny
29th June 2012, 10:01
Good thread and question, Araxes.

How long would a human survive in a world if everyone openly insulted and inappropriately flirted with their mates?

How long would an unprepared human survive in a telepathic world?

Is that the reality beyond the third dimension?

Is that but one of the reasons those intending to ascend beyond the third dimension must prepare their hearts and minds for all thoughts: Sent and Received?

Is that preparation a requirement to survive, or perhaps even, to ascend beyond the third? What percentage of humans are prepared for that right now?

no, normal sheeple deeply asleep people wouldn't be able to survive if this ever happened, just imagine people with nasty thoughts such as murderers rapists and psychopaths, i wouldn't want their thoughts polluting my mind with sickening images of violence, wars would have to stop becasue everyone would know everyones move before they even acted upon it, it would be completely pointless.

i think maybe this is the reason we have to prepare for this assention into 4D but i doubt a lot of people will be ready for it which is sad.

Great thread,
I have to say I think it would be a great thing and a very positive leap forward for humankind, perhaps there would be a difficult period of transition where people were projecting negative thoughts, but a lot of fear imho comes from a lack of honesty trying to be something we are not or trying to be something that is not us. I think if this frailty could be laid bare by telepathy it would lead to a much greater acceptance from those around us and ourselves to be true to ourselves. we couldn't kid ourselves about who we are or what we want because those around us, would say much like an empathic true friend might "you might think that that is the correct decision, but thats not really what you want or feel is it".

The psychopaths that are running goverments and corporations would be immediatly shown for what they are and kids would grow up never feeling the need to lie - sounds glorious to me :)

mahalall
30th June 2012, 01:25
Would you be comfortable with Telepathic Conversation? (thankyou for the threading question)

Expansive awareness and conversations within the stream of late has drawn some reflective conclusions about the nature and depth of telepathic conservation; one being that it is beyond comfort.

For when in the state of pure connection it is not consumed with the congested, cognitive battling fight of craving and aversion that is the pursuit of conditioned comfort. It just accepts the state as is, and energy smiles on and beyond.

ernesto
2nd July 2012, 01:05
Yes, that would be perfect in my opinion. Liers would get in problems!
Ernesto