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Kabaraz
15th May 2012, 06:24
Most people don't know they can literally "fix their face" and acquire golden-ratio symmetry (which improves many aspects of health), because most people don't know the lack of symmetry is caused by nutritional deficiencies and poison. Asymmetry and deformed facial structures are not genetic. I am trying to create awareness for a little-known therapy that has totally changed my life and a everyone's who I've helped by sharing this information.

I wrote an article about it on my site, all of my information is free and I don't even have advertisements.

http://breakthematrix.org/therapy/endonasal

My goal is to share information freely that breaks you from the chains of reliance on other people for products and services.
(p.s.) there might be a better thread for this, but site would only allow me to post in general forum

meat suit
15th May 2012, 08:24
thats interesting stuff Kabaraz,
I have used cranial osteopathy years ago to fix a lot of stuff, this sounds similar.
did your teeth re-align too?
what does the device look like? please pm me if you dont want to post it here.

cheers

meat

Kabaraz
15th May 2012, 17:00
Yes, it expanded my palate significantly over the past 9 months :) If you look at pictures of people who were never on the Western diet (I have Weston Price's book with all the pictures free on that article) you can see how wide their smiles and expansive their teeth. Mine look more like that now. I can explain a lot more of the background, how to construct the device (simple), and how to do everything if you send me an email. Contact info is on the site.

It saddens me that more people don't know about this, we wouldn't have to do all the wisdom teeth removals, would wipe out 90% of what orthodontists do - people could live a much healthier happier more beautiful, pleasurable and rewarding life. Oh well, that's the nature of this game I think...challenge. Such a house of cards.

noprophet
15th May 2012, 18:27
Interesting, I see you didn't go into any explicit detail if the method in your article.

Maybe you could outline the specifics in this thread?

I think the process might be worth discussing.

Kabaraz
15th May 2012, 19:41
Actually, this would be a good opportunity to discuss the theory/idea behind the therapy (why and how it works). There's some medical literature that I don't have access to, but much of it is on cranial-sacral which is sort of a similar therapy (although imo iit's a little bit useless to be totally blunt).

At some point I'd like to create a forum for my site, so people can discuss this as you're requesting. People could post their testimonials and discuss the different therapies, dietary practices, and contribute information that has helped them the most...but it will cost me a lot more money so I'm trying to ensure my site actually gets some views first.

Kabaraz
18th May 2012, 21:40
So this is my understanding of how it works, I won't go into explicit detail on what to do on this thread however, you'll have to contact me through my site if you're curious:

As the theory goes, trauma (nutritional, emotional, physical) creates adhesions in the connective tissue (dura mater specifically), and the skullplates become gradually misaligned/distorted. With every squeeze of the sphygmomanometer, the balloon inflates into the sphenoid bone and causes subsequent movement in the articulating skullplates. The movement of the sphenoid and skull-plates is thought to be immediate, however the connective tissue adhesions begin to loosen overtime and this creates further change after the treatment. This is why people sometimes notice changes during resting periods (non-treatment days).

You are essentially moving the sphenoid out of its distorted, misaligned position which very slightly "rattles" the skullplates (also distorted/misaligned) and this gradually loosens "the wrinkles" in the connective tissue. This process is extremely gradual.
The "unwrinkling" of the connective tissue brings the skull/face back to its optimum shape. It's normal position. This picture will help you visualize the anatomy.
http://vetsci.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/meninges1.jpg


This loosening can be thought of as an "unwinding" of the trauma that has pushed the skull/facial bones into their abnormal positions (asymmetry in the face/skull, sunken eyes, narrow face etc). So in essence what you are doing is returning your skull to its ideal function, you're loosening it and allowing it to return to its optimal, normal, "base-line" state. Ultimately the golden ratio is the goal if you want to look your best and function your best, but for that much change you will probably be looking at a minimum 6 months of therapy, probably 1 or 2 years (considering how incredible it is what you're doing, this isn't a long time). Some people believe you have to do more than just this (NCR or whatever) to perfectly achieve that goal.

I wonder if there are any medical practitioners or people who have a lot of knowledge about anatomy/physiology on this forum? I would love to have some help obtaining more details and making revisions to my theory. The doctors aren't much help. I think if the lid was totally blown on this it'd be forced into the big pharma medical journals and the house of cards would have even shakier foundation to stand on.

MessiahMews
19th May 2012, 10:55
I am working on that now.

I had NCR done (one session of 4 treatments) by Dr. Hillary Lampers, ND.

I'm current saving up for my 2nd session.

I've had several accidents such as being kicked in the face at age 4 by a horse, god awful dental work perpetrated upon me by ignorant parents who is at fault for RUINING my teeth, lack of nutrition as a child, falls, accidents, etc... As a result, my face and palate were already collapsing. We see this everyday in middle aged people too.

Now, I'm not a beauty by any means and these pictures are not glamour shots, but there are CLEARLY differences. The doc's photographer and assistant told me to look serious in them, so I'm not pissed off and mad as the pics look.

http://digitalangeldonnadj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/6997465938_a3b3da8682_z.jpg

The results from first session were... a straighter nose (nose job anyone?), cheeks more pronounced (face lift?), eyes are finally lined up, although the right eyebrow is still a little drooped, the shoulders are better and no more rounded shoulders, the neck is straighter (I still have a neck even at my age), and the pain in the spine much lessened. I had some slight scoliosis, which I probably still have some of it, but things are much better. I still have a tad of left sided occiput pains, but they come and go instead of being constant. After another session, they should be totally resolved.

I intend on 4 sessions at least, and perhaps a yearly maintenance.

My teeth are basically screwed unless the stem cell tech for regrowing/regenerating teeth comes to light, AFTER the fall of the ADA, FDA, AMA, and all other alphabet soup agencies that are in cohoots in keeping these technologies from us.


Most people don't know they can literally "fix their face" and acquire golden-ratio symmetry (which improves many aspects of health), because most people don't know the lack of symmetry is caused by nutritional deficiencies and poison. Asymmetry and deformed facial structures are not genetic. I am trying to create awareness for a little-known therapy that has totally changed my life and a everyone's who I've helped by sharing this information.

I wrote an article about it on my site, all of my information is free and I don't even have advertisements.

http://breakthematrix.org/therapy/endonasal

My goal is to share information freely that breaks you from the chains of reliance on other people for products and services.
(p.s.) there might be a better thread for this, but site would only allow me to post in general forum

songsfortheotherkind
19th May 2012, 14:05
So this is my understanding of how it works, I won't go into explicit detail on what to do on this thread however, you'll have to contact me through my site if you're curious:

I am really curious about this, as I had repeated head trauma as a child, my nose has been broken at least 17 times and my jaw had to be rebuilt at an early age. I'll send you an email to discuss more *and* it would be good to talk about it here too- I'm having good results from osteo work, I've had relief from cranio-sacral work *and* I know that my sphenoid causes me all kinds of grief, it often juts out so far under my left ear that I can clearly feel it. I know about the relationship between the sphenoid and anxiety, that would be good to explore more here.

Good topic. Thanks for sharing.

Kabaraz
19th May 2012, 15:30
messiahmews, thanks for your testimonial, I'm glad to hear you're doing something about it! it's too bad the doctors charge so much money but I totally understand people wanting to go in to see them :) I did that 28 times (7 sessions) after-all. And if you ask them about self-treatment, they'll tell you it could be dangerous and cite the one or two cases where people self-treated in some (idiotic) way.

if you guys were to see what I looked like prior to treatment face-on, and what I look like now after treating myself for 9 months, you'd be blown to smithereens. I'm almost unrecognizable. unfortunately I'm unwilling to post my face on the internet at this point. I'll probably make a youtube video in a few weeks or months.

http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com

Check out "patient zero's" testimonial down at the bottom of the page. Pretty amazing huh? He used a face-pulling device which is a similar practice to NCR (except more intense, more work, and with more risk than you'd have with a simple inflation), developed by one of Dr. Howell's defectors.

I know people who are going that route in addition to the endonasal balloons. It's all good.

Kabaraz
19th May 2012, 15:52
MessiahMews, I almost forgot to tell you!

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003556.html
Apparently you can regrow your teeth with ultrasound. Seriously look into this.

I firmly believe we have the technology and innovation today to solve any problem with our bodies if you look hard enough for the solution.

MessiahMews
19th May 2012, 22:01
Yes, thanks! I have that TMJ page saved and linked to from my sites. I think that's Plato's site. Kevin Courtois posts about doing that in his orgoneproducts.org blog. He too, seems to stay updated with the latest tech and cutting edge stuff. Dr. Hillary Lampers said she was trained in the helmut face pulling device, but did cautioned that one has to be very careful in doing it.

The missing teeth is problematic for me, so that's why I can't do this unless a miracle happens and I get ALL my teeth back. I have a friend that has dental implants who is considering NCR, and Hillary said that she can do NCR on people who have implants. I really don't want to do those, because my father developed cancer after a couple of years that his implants were put in. I'm hoping in July to go for my second session. June would be better, but I have to save the money for gas and lodging, so it's more than what most people would pay, because Hillary is the next state over on either side of us.


messiahmews, thanks for your testimonial, I'm glad to hear you're doing something about it! it's too bad the doctors charge so much money but I totally understand people wanting to go in to see them :) I did that 28 times (7 sessions) after-all. And if you ask them about self-treatment, they'll tell you it could be dangerous and cite the one or two cases where people self-treated in some (idiotic) way.

if you guys were to see what I looked like prior to treatment face-on, and what I look like now after treating myself for 9 months, you'd be blown to smithereens. I'm almost unrecognizable. unfortunately I'm unwilling to post my face on the internet at this point. I'll probably make a youtube video in a few weeks or months.

http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com

Check out "patient zero's" testimonial down at the bottom of the page. Pretty amazing huh? He used a face-pulling device which is a similar practice to NCR (except more intense, more work, and with more risk than you'd have with a simple inflation), developed by one of Dr. Howell's defectors.

I know people who are going that route in addition to the endonasal balloons. It's all good.

MessiahMews
19th May 2012, 23:18
I know about that too, and plan to buy a unit from eBay since I have the specs. I was told that if a whole tooth is missing (meaning the root is gone from pulling) that it won't regrow unless I still have the root. On my missing teeth, I no longer have the roots. On my damaged teeth, the roots are still intact, so I definitely plan to repair those too.

I'm taking the Youngevity colloidal minerals, Angstrom Minerals Bone Support (nano minerals), monosodium phosphate from Tooth Soap (also Gerald Judd protocol), Sodium Ascobate (Vit. C), Osteo FX Plus (Youngevity) Orgono G5 Silica, and the G5 gel.

My idiot parental units had my teeth ruined at a young age, as the mercury fillings and root canals damaged my mouth and teeth. They totally drill nearly the whole teeth for mercury. Plus the kick in the face at age 4 damaged tooth buds, so some just didn't grow.

One of my sisters, who NEVER had dental work as a child, has the most perfect and beautiful teeth in the family. She also has a wide palate with a 10 tooth smile. However, her lower jaw is slightly underdeveloped and they said she had an overbite when actually it is a jammed in jaw.

But yes! We're definitely going to get the Ultrasound! They have them on both Amazon and eBay.


MessiahMews, I almost forgot to tell you!

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003556.html
Apparently you can regrow your teeth with ultrasound. Seriously look into this.

I firmly believe we have the technology and innovation today to solve any problem with our bodies if you look hard enough for the solution.

songsfortheotherkind
20th May 2012, 04:11
Does anyone know of any Australian ortho's into these techniques? I'd really like to get my youngest kids into this while they're still small and help my older ones fix the damage dentists have done.

Kabaraz
20th May 2012, 16:26
Does anyone know of any Australian ortho's into these techniques? I'd really like to get my youngest kids into this while they're still small and help my older ones fix the damage dentists have done.


I don't think there are any. :( A lot of people travel from Australia to the U.S., or Hawaii to get treated or get their kids treated.

@Messiah Mews
That's awesome you're doing the ultrasound. Could you link your website? I'd love to know how it works for you. If it's successful I can put your testimonial on my site and write an article about it sometime.


I have a friend that has dental implants who is considering NCR, and Hillary said that she can do NCR on people who have implants. I really don't want to do those, because my father developed cancer after a couple of years that his implants were put in. I'm hoping in July to go for my second session. June would be better, but I have to save the money for gas and lodging, so it's more than what most people would pay, because Hillary is the next state over on either side of us.

I didn't want to say this but Dr. Hillary was actually the very first doctor I saw a few years ago for NCR (saw Dr. Howell's daughter later). She's one of my favorite people, great energy... I always felt so good coming into her clinic. But, she was the one who convinced me that self-treating was dangerous. So while I am eternally grateful to her, and I think she's a wonderful Doctor - if I had believed her for all these years I wouldn't be anywhere as healthy, functional, attractive and in the great relationship I'm in today. And I don't think she's being dishonest - she really believes it's dangerous because she once had a patient and their friend who harmed themselves. I'm sure she's told you this story too.

I wrote that article on NCR/FCR/BNS in part because I want to empower people to do this themselves. Once you start doing it yourself, you realize you can do it as many times as you want in your own home, in 1 minute, and to achieve the same results with doctors isn't even faster or better as far as I'm concerned, it's just more comforting and perhaps safer if you're clueless and unsure what to do. Proprioceptive testing and bodywork are NOT necessary I can say with absolute conviction, but they ARE a very convenient innovation for doctors to charge $150-300 per hour and for Dr. Howell to slap a moneymaking trademark on the therapy.

I would have had to spend literally $30,000+ to get the results I've gotten today. I am still in debt and have no money in large part because of the borrowed $5000+ I spent on NCR treatments and gasoline while I was also a student, which is another reason I created this website.

So, consider what I'm saying and why I'm here. I want people to do what they're comfortable with but I also want people to think deeper about this.

If you live near a doctor, have kids you want treated, and if you have a lot of money, by all means GO for it - it's a great decision. But if you'd travel all the way from Timbuctoo, scrounge together your savings and pay thousands for hotels and 4 treatments, that's when you should very seriously consider the alternatives.

MessiahMews
22nd May 2012, 00:02
I'll PM you my website once I get an ultrasound device. I haven't put links because of the Avalon rules of linking websites.

I can tell you what supplements I'm using though, without linking. And you all can look them up.

G-5 Organic Silica
Angstrom Nano Minerals Bone Support
Youngevity's Majestc Earth Colloidal Minerals
The Cod Liver Oil capsules (the one listed in the TMJ Article) The company is no longer making those either. I still have some left.
Monosodium Phosphate ala Gerald Judd
Vitamin C in the form of Sodium Ascorbate
Osteo FX Plus by Youngevity when hubby orders it.
Vitamin D3 from Biotics Research (I buy locally from chiropractor)



Does anyone know of any Australian ortho's into these techniques? I'd really like to get my youngest kids into this while they're still small and help my older ones fix the damage dentists have done.

@Messiah Mews
That's awesome you're doing the ultrasound. Could you link your website? I'd love to know how it works for you. If it's successful I can put your testimonial on my site and write an article about it sometime.


I have a friend that has dental implants who is considering NCR, and Hillary said that she can do NCR on people who have implants. I really don't want to do those, because my father developed cancer after a couple of years that his implants were put in. I'm hoping in July to go for my second session. June would be better, but I have to save the money for gas and lodging, so it's more than what most people would pay, because Hillary is the next state over on either side of us.


I would love to do myself, but I really don't trust myself, nor know what I'm doing. And also my hubby would hit the roof if I tried it on myself. lol

My grown daughter could use it too. Thankfully, she has all her teeth, but she does have a sunken in mouth (thank you ****ty genetics!), and I'd love for her palate to come forward. Unfortunately, she's 31 and probably won't do it. However, I'm sending my pics to her, so she can see for herself.

Seikou-Kishi
22nd May 2012, 00:26
Presumably this applies in 'standard' cases, and not in cases such as birth/formative defects? Does it work the other way around? 'Cos my face is almost completely symmetrical and I'm prone to eating crap lol

Kabaraz
22nd May 2012, 01:16
@MessiahMews
Interesting supplement regimen, will look at those. You can't link websites here?? :| Well I totally understand if that's what you feel more comfortable doing, she is a really great doctor and you're in good hands.

@Seikou
it does apply to birth/formative defects if they relate to the bones. people with Down Syndrome make extremely significant recoveries and improvements beyond what most in the medical community consider ever possible. here's one testimonial:

"Dear Dr. Howell,

As all parents of Down’s Syndrome (DS) children know, at birth our babies do not look dramatically different from "well" newborns. But as the months and years go by, they develop very slowly and begin to resemble each other more than their parents. Speech, gross and fine motor skills tend to be especially slow to develop.

My DS daughter April, now eight years old, was clearly headed down that road, despite my doing many therapies, programs and natural healing modalities with her. High functioning relative to other DS children, she still had the facial characteristics, droopy posture and slurred speech typical of our kids.

For the past year and a half, however, things have shifted on every level in April as she is blessed to receive NCR® treatments from Dr. Dean Howell every three months. April's posture has straightened to near perfect and as a result she excels in her gymnastics practice and skis downhill solo with control from the top of the mountain!

Oh, there have been and continue to be so many desirable changes, both dramatic and subtly cumulative, I don't know where to begin. April's speech is now extraordinarily clear, her thought processes complex. Her natural sense of whimsy can now shine. At last we get to hear her ideas and feelings as she can truly carry on complete conversations.

Her lower jaw no longer projects excessively forward. You might not even recognize her as a Down’s Syndrome person. She no longer has the flat face characteristic of DS people. As the bridge of her nose has come out and we see cheekbones emerge, her eyes have rounded and relaxed into a more natural place. Her lower jaw no longer projects excessively forward. You might not even recognize her as a Down’s Syndrome person.
NC® will definitely continue to be part of April's life adventure for years to come.

Thank you, Dr. Dean Howell (and Hillary), for helping to awaken my daughter to her true self. "

MessiahMews
22nd May 2012, 02:59
Yeah, when I signed up for the forum here, I had to read the rules and that we couldn't put our websites and links, including putting them in our signatures. However, since you asked, I'll PM it to you.

The supplements listed are just for my teeth alone. I take other supplements for other things too. We take alot of stuff here, plus eat organic and as clean as possible.

I thank you for this fantastic thread, as it's one of the very few modalities out there that's actually allowed.


@MessiahMews
Interesting supplement regimen, will look at those. You can't link websites here?? :| Well I totally understand if that's what you feel more comfortable doing, she is a really great doctor and you're in good hands.

eileenrose
22nd May 2012, 04:30
I do cranial sacral on myself (re: topic of the thread....achieving facial symmetry).
Recently, (this is after years and years of self practice), I've moved energically into my nasal region as well. Though I use intention, slight finger presence (not really pressure) to accomplish this and spirit provides the rest. I specifically let intention do the work...I don't use anything else to accomplish this. It isn't really anything than can be taught (if someone is thinking that...about how I am doing it).

The benefits is more releasing of past energies. I havn't gotten so far that I am seeing large number of outward manifestations (ie. physical results). ...just emotional releases currently.

Still lots of stuck energies in the jaw, some in the teeth and huge unknown quantities (of negatively charged results...ie karma) in my forehead/frontal lobe region....which expands into the back of my neck (which is very stuck indeed...I assume the most...but I don't know that for sure....at this juncture).

hard to talk about in written form.

Kabaraz
22nd May 2012, 17:28
Ahh yes I am somewhat familiar with energetic sphenoid movement actually. I used to live near a practitioner. She has a website, ehealing.us or something... maybe you'd find what she's doing interesting.

Is this essentially what you're doing?

eileenrose
23rd May 2012, 04:17
Ahh yes I am somewhat familiar with energetic sphenoid movement actually. I used to live near a practitioner. She has a website, ehealing.us or something... maybe you'd find what she's doing interesting.

Is this essentially what you're doing?

Interesting work (I quickly checked it out).
I am all self taught...ie. I just do what works to release tension/pain and don't care how I am doing it.

I did, 17 years ago take a 3 weekend class to learn cs basics.

The rest is me (now).

I'm not using a methodology...that would be too restrictive (for what I do)....as I use physical release to help manifest emotional pockets of held pain syndromes (a different purpose than most practioners...who don't usually do clearings, with their practices, in order to become enlightened).

They want physical results...and I don't care about physical results....just releasing the mechanism holding the pain in place...ie the emotional triggers.

As once you realize that the symptoms keep returning, no matter how many times you get it healed, you wake up to the fact you are doing it to yourself (in order to wake yourself from your dream like sleep).

does that help?

Kabaraz
24th May 2012, 01:36
Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused :) haha.

I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.

eileenrose
24th May 2012, 03:18
Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused :) haha.

I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.

Yes, we all think we know what pain indicates....something out of place, broken, needing healing and so on.

But, when you keep getting sick, you dig down deeper (as I have), not really from choice, more from survival.

Just saying, underneath the pain you are experiencing from your accident, is karma.

karma is, to me anyway, about healing our past, seeing our judgements and clearing (letting go, releasing emotional trauma).

It is an evolving process.

So it isn't 'just pain' or 'an injury'. That is the western mentality about health. Not really mine (any longer).


...
No way to explain this simpler.
Just saying, the more time I spent learning cranial sacral therapy, the more in tune with myself I became.

fathertedsmate
24th May 2012, 19:02
stand in front of the mirror , draw 3 imaginary lines on face, 1 down middle of nose (vertical),1 across eyes (horizontal) 1 across mouth, slight smile, if the mouth is up on one side,look at height of ears,you will find that ear on same side as mouth rise is higher than the other side,if you have ringing in the ears this one is the loudest, if this is the case, you have a mouth full of metal,

Kabaraz
27th May 2012, 04:14
Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused :) haha.

I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.

Yes, we all think we know what pain indicates....something out of place, broken, needing healing and so on.

But, when you keep getting sick, you dig down deeper (as I have), not really from choice, more from survival.

Just saying, underneath the pain you are experiencing from your accident, is karma.

karma is, to me anyway, about healing our past, seeing our judgements and clearing (letting go, releasing emotional trauma).

It is an evolving process.

So it isn't 'just pain' or 'an injury'. That is the western mentality about health. Not really mine (any longer).


...
No way to explain this simpler.
Just saying, the more time I spent learning cranial sacral therapy, the more in tune with myself I became.


Right! I agree. A huge part of my emotional development has been about "undoing" what I feel was done to me when I was extremely young. It's part of what convinces me that this is "my last life" in this world the way it is. In human history, did so many humans really spend their whole lives undoing trauamas? Only in the modern age are we so inundated with so many layers of programming..with so many substances that lower our consciousness and awareness. Anyway, that's really interesting. I suppose i need to give cranial sacral more credit, but I often focus on the physical because it's the most tangible. Thanks for your contribution

eileenrose
27th May 2012, 06:33
I will say my version of cranial sacral has little to do with the classes I took.

I find, in general, the only way to learn a new skill set, like a healing technique, is to take as many classes in it (or participate in some way with the information, ...read about it, interview individuals who do it...etc.) as I feel like, try it out (until mastered...or stops working or doesn't work well enough to be useful...), then let it go.

In time, it comes back, from a more real place (from within).

At least that is how it works (for me).

So, to stand corrected (or be even more accurate in my assessment of what I am doing, with my nose...and my entire being-ness), the version of cranial I use has little to do with the strategy imposed on me by the person who taught me to use it. I kept what worked, disgarded the rest (though I keep checking back,...in my memory....when I need something new....as that is where I store my 'information).

Hope that is helpful...
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Kabaraz
29th May 2012, 19:32
thats interesting stuff Kabaraz,
I have used cranial osteopathy years ago to fix a lot of stuff, this sounds similar.
did your teeth re-align too?
what does the device look like? please pm me if you dont want to post it here.

cheers

meat

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MessiahMews
8th August 2012, 19:45
From NCR session 2 by Dr. Hillary Lampers.

More cheekbone prominence, palate moved forward some more, upper and low teeth meet now, and I unwinded enough and gained an inch in height.

http://digitalangeldonnadj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/557952_393968130670879_1107073501_n.jpg

http://digitalangeldonnadj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/616823_394650253936000_377388206_o.jpg

Kabaraz
19th August 2012, 13:30
Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome." I can't afford the book, but people are constantly emailing me that they discovered NCR/endonasal therapy through that book and I'd like to find out what this book is on about.

wynderer
19th August 2012, 13:54
hi Kabaraz -- there is some interesting info/speculation on Duncan O'Finioan's blog re those w/'alters' installed [via cruel MK Ultra methods] having completely assymetrical faces

Kabaraz
19th August 2012, 17:38
I've seen that actually, there's definitely something to it. It isn't the facial symmetry that he's referring to but the asymmetry of expression between the two sides of the face... mainly in the eyes. I know that in mind control victims, their left eye tends to squint on a constant basis. Simon Cowell is one good example of this.

The CIA also according to Fritz Springmeier developed a technique to give someone a concussion in the proper area which can create the correct dissociation needed to program the personalities.

What's REALLY interesting is that this technique - neurocranial restructuring or whatever you want to call it - has been known to trigger a switch in mind control victims. I had a doctor who treated me that told me a story about a 50 year old woman who came in to see her for NCR. When the balloon was inflated, the woman immediately became a 5 or 6 year old girl, crouching in the corner, crying, scared and talking in a childlike high-pitched tone. Her husband took her away and convinced my doc that it was just some old PTSD and nothing to worry about. She never came back for further treatment, but when my doctor saw her 3 years later she had completely changed, and was suddenly extremely beautiful with no wrinkles and no facial asymmetry. Her posture and everything had improved.

My doctor had no knowledge of mind control, and I didn't bother to impart upon her this information.

To sum up, if you ever want to find out if someone is under mind control... stick a balloon up their nose and squeeze. LOL :rolleyes:

ThePythonicCow
19th August 2012, 17:42
Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome."
If you are referring to Jerry Tennant's "Healing is Voltage", you might find his videos on Youtube informative as well.

Last week, I put together an 87 minute Youtube playlist of his best lecture on this subject, at Dr. Jerry Tennant "An Understanding of How the Body Works" (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCBA8FD0F6CB661A2&feature=mh_lolz). Give that a try.

I just got the book, and haven't read it yet. Tennant seens to know his stuff; I'm impressed.

music
19th August 2012, 21:21
Thanks for posting, interesting stuff. Weston Price (whom you mentioned earlier) is generally spot on the money in my experience. I have also had nothing but success with osteopathy for myself and children. You may find this exchange from this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47636-Dalai-Lama-Supports-2045--s-Avatar-Project) post interesting in light of facial symmetry, as it also has bearing.


music:
Thanks ulli, it is ALL about the (re)unification of the poles. Developing linkages in the corpus collosom so that left and right hemispheres of the brain are united is essential. There are some good techniques for those of us who can't dance Imagining the letters of the alphabet rising in one hemisphere and setting in the other, then vice versa is good. Then visualise numbers doing likewise, then the alphabet and numbers backwards, and then the rising and setting of the moon and the sun. As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain. Extreme differences in eyes are evidence of personality destruction and reconstruction, think of Manson and the James Holmes. Informed readers may also wish to look at images of Inelia Benz with this in mind.

Hemispherical union is merely a first step though. Our goal is to unite the masculine and the feminine within our hearts. Union is truth and Love. Try taking masculine energy through the crown, and feminine energy through the root. Combine these within the heart. The lower chakras are analogues of the 3 physical dimensions, the throat is the gateway to higher dimensionality, and the other two higher chakras are analogues of "as above". The heart is the place where the lower and higher dimensions meet within the body, this is where union takes place. and that is without even getting into the high heart, nasal or any of the transpersonal chakras! Chakras are best worked in tandem, look for colours that are opposites on the colour wheel - these are the power pairs e.g. sacral and throat (orange and blue). Sacral and throat are probably the two most important chakras in the "ascension" process, for without proper functionality of these two, we can only fool ourselves with ersatz (ego-based) awareness. Another way of saying this is that without these two chakras working we can not truley connect with higher consciousness. That is why these are the two chakras that are most under attack in todays world. Well, the pineal is equally under attack mainly through fluoridation, but the sex/psychology/magic/unconsciousness/fear foundation of the sacral chakra is the prime target.




Tarka the Duck: Oooo er...uncomfortable flashback to the 16th century when any kind of skin blemish or physical deformity was said to have been the devil's mark and sufficient evidence to put someone on trial as a witch...

We all have assymetical faces don't we? Some more than others - never heard about this outer asymmetry being "corrected" through inner work! Some (not all of course) of those held up to be an example of great classical beauty (models, actresses) often have very symmetrical faces


Haha, I can see how you might see that. Yes, our faces are assymetrical, but I probably didn't make it clear that I was really talking about the eyes especially. We habitually relate to each other "mask" eye to "mask" eye, and we feel uncomfortable when we are "true" eye to "true" eye. This is natural, and to be expected with physical existence. When we become aware we can relate in truth and know that truth is our nature. This changes the way we view our environment, and so the mask we show changes, becomes more aligned with our inner truth. The subtleties of the human eye are amazing. Wildly different eyes are so not primarily by their physical difference, but by the differences in the divine spark within. In mind-controlled people the distance is so great that the connectivity between mask and truth is weak or severed.

Kabaraz
20th August 2012, 02:26
Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome."
If you are referring to Jerry Tennant's "Healing is Voltage", you might find his videos on Youtube informative as well.

Last week, I put together an 87 minute Youtube playlist of his best lecture on this subject, at Dr. Jerry Tennant "An Understanding of How the Body Works" (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCBA8FD0F6CB661A2&feature=mh_lolz). Give that a try.

I just got the book, and haven't read it yet. Tennant seens to know his stuff; I'm impressed.

This is absolutely fascinating. He is temporarily adjusting and modulating the sphenoid with electricity! (ouch, $2000 device) I had no idea that was possible, and it seems he doesn't know you can adjust the sphenoid by physically nudging it? If he writes about that in his book, let me know.

The other amazing thing he observed is that the voltage is low in areas of chronic pain and inflammation. He uses the device to restore electrons and electricity to that area of the body. Funny enough this is exactly why Earthing/grounding works...

It's like he's doing the exact same things I've discovered to be so powerful... except in a more minor, isolating, temporary way through a technology rather than something a bit more holistic and organic (earthing/grounding and physically adjusting the sphenoid).

But he clearly has observed the positive effects and knows about the pumping of cerebrospinal fluid, he has taken a whole different modality to treat the same conditions. Fascinating...

The guy needs the hair regrowth shampoo by the way, LOL :o

ThePythonicCow
20th August 2012, 04:02
But he clearly has observed the positive effects and knows about the pumping of cerebrospinal fluid, he has taken a whole different modality to treat the same conditions. Fascinating...
At first glance, his book is similar. He finds unique ways, usually including some business opportunities for himself, to do "the exact same things" that you and others have been discovering are so powerful.

I like his home spun explanations ... but find his promotions a bit greasy.

Kabaraz
22nd August 2012, 01:25
1000% agree Paul.

Somebody posted this in the David Icke forum and I think it's relevant to this thread, might help some people:

I've looked into this treatment and it has some advantages and disadvantages compared to neurocranial restructuring/endonasal balloon therapy. One of the biggest advantage is that it's only $250 and only requires one treatment, compared to the NCR docs who charge at least $500, most of them $700-1000. Next biggest advantage is results happen faster. Disadvantage is it won't restructure the face/skull as much and it doesn't offer continuous benefits (i.e. you can't keep treating). It's a one time deal.

"Hi guys, my family and I recently had the Atlasprofilax treatment over the weekend and I would love to share with you my experience.

The Atlasprofilax treatment(i'll now refer to as just the treatment) is a method of correcting the position of your Atlas, the top bone in your spine. The atlas is reportedly out of place from birth/before birth(children born through C-section have been apparently been observed to have their atlas out of place). This can cause a myriad of problems from neck ache to sciatica, from depression to an out of control temper, digestion problems and concentration.

Flexibility problems, joint pain, poor immune system, poor eye sight even blindness. Still the list goes on, I couldn't justify not using a new paragraph! But on a serious note, there seems to be a benefit to having this treatment for every human being sharing this planet(Sounding like a hippy is not a side effect, don't worry).

As I can see, the treatment works in 2 ways. 1st by allowing the spine to go back to it's original and the bodies prefered position. Imagine hanging a chain from the top link down, if you turn the top link the rest of the chain will turn too. If you turned the lower links back into the old position before you turned the top link, they will inevitably begin to turn as soon as you stop holding them. Unfortunately almost all work done on the spine is started in the wrong way, for the spine to be in it's correct position, the 1st Cervical vertebrae must be in place, otherwise any work done on the spine will give at best only temporary relief.

The 2nd way in which the treatment works is by taking any possible unwanted pressure on your nerves right from the top of your spine 1st. Seeing as information from the brain must travel from the brain and down through the nerves in your spine, it makes perfect sense to treat this area before attempting much else on the lower. Taking pressure off the trapped nerves allows them to function properly. This means you can experience pain relief which is usually instant, noticable seconds after the Atlas is corrected! Improvements in all of your senses would not be unusual, 3 days after the treatment I cannot believe how sharp my hearing and eyesight have become and my wife no longer needs her glasses to read! Apparently her hearing has not improved as she still doesn't listen to anything I say...

There are so many benefits and reasons to have this treatment it can seem unreal when someone speaks about it. Any skepticism I held before hand has been put to rest.

Personally I have experienced the following;

Neck Pain - gone
Back pain, around the spine - 60% better
Back pain, muscular, old injuries etc - 60% better
Increased range of movement in my neck
Joint pain - gone! Feels like all my joints have been oiled!
Morning headaches, completely gone
Improved vision
Pain behind right eye - gone
Waking up much earlier and feeling much more refreshed.
Feeling happier! I feel fantastic physicaly and emotionaly!
Less stress and much better stress management, this feels fantastic
improved digestion and much better bowel movements
Better breathing, through better posture my organs have more space!


There are other things but these are certainley the major benefits I have experienced so far. I am also aware of old injuries as a dull ache while they're healing, this is nothing compared to how uncomfortable I can be simply sitting down or trying to get to sleep. I have slept like a baby since I have had this treatment!

I am an athlete and I will be returning to training tomorrow after a short break due to illness (that has cleared up since having the treatment) and I cannot wait to see and feel the changes in my workouts.

I feel like I've been typing forever so I'll just put this information out there and hopefully it will benefit others, I'll try to answer any questions, feel free to post them here so others can see the answer but if you would prefer just send me a private message

www.atlasprofilax.com - the official website of the treatment, some background of the treatment etc and lists of practitioners"

Swan
24th August 2012, 10:14
Thanks! Booked a session this Tuesday!

MessiahMews
21st September 2012, 23:41
"Hi guys, my family and I recently had the Atlasprofilax treatment over the weekend and I would love to share with you my experience.

The Atlasprofilax treatment(i'll now refer to as just the treatment) is a method of correcting the position of your Atlas, the top bone in your spine. The atlas is reportedly out of place from birth/before birth(children born through C-section have been apparently been observed to have their atlas out of place). This can cause a myriad of problems from neck ache to sciatica, from depression to an out of control temper, digestion problems and concentration.

Flexibility problems, joint pain, poor immune system, poor eye sight even blindness. Still the list goes on, I couldn't justify not using a new paragraph! But on a serious note, there seems to be a benefit to having this treatment for every human being sharing this planet(Sounding like a hippy is not a side effect, don't worry).

As I can see, the treatment works in 2 ways. 1st by allowing the spine to go back to it's original and the bodies prefered position. Imagine hanging a chain from the top link down, if you turn the top link the rest of the chain will turn too. If you turned the lower links back into the old position before you turned the top link, they will inevitably begin to turn as soon as you stop holding them. Unfortunately almost all work done on the spine is started in the wrong way, for the spine to be in it's correct position, the 1st Cervical vertebrae must be in place, otherwise any work done on the spine will give at best only temporary relief.

The 2nd way in which the treatment works is by taking any possible unwanted pressure on your nerves right from the top of your spine 1st. Seeing as information from the brain must travel from the brain and down through the nerves in your spine, it makes perfect sense to treat this area before attempting much else on the lower. Taking pressure off the trapped nerves allows them to function properly. This means you can experience pain relief which is usually instant, noticable seconds after the Atlas is corrected! Improvements in all of your senses would not be unusual, 3 days after the treatment I cannot believe how sharp my hearing and eyesight have become and my wife no longer needs her glasses to read! Apparently her hearing has not improved as she still doesn't listen to anything I say...

There are so many benefits and reasons to have this treatment it can seem unreal when someone speaks about it. Any skepticism I held before hand has been put to rest.

Personally I have experienced the following;

Neck Pain - gone
Back pain, around the spine - 60% better
Back pain, muscular, old injuries etc - 60% better
Increased range of movement in my neck
Joint pain - gone! Feels like all my joints have been oiled!
Morning headaches, completely gone
Improved vision
Pain behind right eye - gone
Waking up much earlier and feeling much more refreshed.
Feeling happier! I feel fantastic physicaly and emotionaly!
Less stress and much better stress management, this feels fantastic
improved digestion and much better bowel movements
Better breathing, through better posture my organs have more space!


There are other things but these are certainley the major benefits I have experienced so far. I am also aware of old injuries as a dull ache while they're healing, this is nothing compared to how uncomfortable I can be simply sitting down or trying to get to sleep. I have slept like a baby since I have had this treatment!

I am an athlete and I will be returning to training tomorrow after a short break due to illness (that has cleared up since having the treatment) and I cannot wait to see and feel the changes in my workouts.

I feel like I've been typing forever so I'll just put this information out there and hopefully it will benefit others, I'll try to answer any questions, feel free to post them here so others can see the answer but if you would prefer just send me a private message

www.atlasprofilax.com - the official website of the treatment, some background of the treatment etc and lists of practitioners"

Yes, I did that too back in Oct of 2006. Did it again in 2009. It helped alot, but it didn't fix the rest of my problems permanently and STILL my Atlas didn't stay in place, even after two times. It was done by Ranan Shahar. The second time was different due to him changing it and called it AtlasEvolution. http://www.AtlasEvolution.com

After two more NCR sessions, I'll wait for Ranan to come back to our area and get another Atlas session done. With improved cranial/facial shape and the Atlas being in place, I should be doing very well by then. I wanted to do it before NCR for the third time, but figured I would get done with NCR four sessions first, wait awhile for things to settle and then do it again.

I remember after the initial AtlasPro, I started dropping weight for no reason. I lost 25 lbs, and believe me, I needed to lose that extra weight. My local chiropractor said it was probably because of giving more room for the hypothalamus gland to function properly. I've read the NCR allows the pituitary gland to function correctly too.

MessiahMews
20th April 2013, 08:02
3rd Session (November 2012)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4819/13196943124263361009512.jpg


4th Session (March 2013):

http://digitalangeldonnadj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/8583152815_9760bb4a6b_z.jpg

MessiahMews
24th August 2013, 08:12
For Those of You That Can't Find an NCR Doctor Close to Your Area

I found out about Advanced BioStructural Correction™ from Dr. Ben Eversage, who is an NCR doctor from Maine. http://www.dreversage.com/
It was in his links page, and I asked him about doing this along with NCR.


Re: Advanced Biostructural Correction on your Links page...
From: Ben Eversage <eversage@...>
To: services4health <services4health@...>
Date: Sun, Apr 21, 2013 7:26 pm
Yes, I do ABC and NCR; they fit well together. I also might recommend Alphabiotics. The three of them together would unwind about any injury and remove any meningeal adhesion.

and....


Re: Advanced Biostructural Correction on your Links page...
From: Ben Eversage <eversage@...>
To: services4health <services4health@...>
Date: Sun, Apr 21, 2013 8:14 pm
Here it is my friend - you will find a list of practitioners there as well.

http://alphabioticinfo.com

Let me review why I feel all three are a great combination:

1. NCR unlocks the cranium, corrects head shape, re-establishes CSF flow and proper brain functioning
2. ABC breaks up meningeal adhesions and corrects anterior vertebra thereby unwind the spine and correcting postural misalignment
3. Alphabiotics is a miracle and switches the brain on to the alpha brain wave state bringing positivity, joy and blissful functioning

And after ordering the free DVD on the First Rib Maneuver, I looked further and found out that they have their own Endonasal Cranial training and some practitioners listed.

ABC™ Endonasal Cranial

ABC™ aka Advanced BioStructural Correction™
http://www.meningealrelease.com/
http://www.abcmiracles.com/

http://www.meningealrelease.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84&Itemid=120
http://www.subiacochiropractic.com/page/momentum

Provider Map: http://www.meningealrelease.com/index.php?option=com_webmapplus&view=webmapplus&category=1&Itemid=37
* Certification in ABC™ EndoNasal Cranial Correction is displayed with star a in the flag and in the "Level" column below.

http://www.meningealrelease.com/index.php?option=com_jumi&fileid=3&Itemid=62
ABC™ Endonasal Cranial Seminar - Two-day seminar that teaches how to correct and align the cranial bones with ABC™ endonasal methods, without any nasty side effects. - $1200

Note: ABC™ Practitioners are eligible for a 10% discount ($1080) & Certified ABC™ Practitioners are eligible for a 25% discount ($900) Students and Retirees are eligible for a 50% discount ($600)
Packages combining advanced seminars with endonasal seminars are also available and include discounts for certified practitioners, as well as additional savings when bought as a package.

Click here to get a Free DVD that shows you how to do the First Rib Maneuver™ on yourself and your patients.
http://www.meningealrelease.com/index.php?option=com_rsform&Itemid=55
*I ordered one for my local chiropractor, myself and my daughter, since she's majoring in physical therapy.

What is Endonasal Cranial Correction?

The balloons (finger cots are the balloons in use) are inserted through the nostril into the one of the six nasal conchae, depending upon which is appropriate to move what part of the sphenoid bone and skull.

The balloon is inflated which causes it to press against the contacting bones. As the balloon enlarges, the pressure separates the bones, moving them into a better position.

Background

"Endonasal balloons have been used in treatment since the early 1930s. These older treatment approaches were valuable but generalised. The ABC endonasal correction is more specific and correcting only the bones that the body can't self correct.

When do we do it?

It is usually done after an ABC protocol as the body is a single synchronised functioning unit. When the bones of your cranium are not correctly aligned, it will affect your body all the way doen to your toes.
However there is no exact order as there are vast variations in what can happen, in what order and what is mechanically dependent upon what.

The ABC practitioner uses a synchronised test to determine which one of the six nasal conchae requires the correction.

Who can it be done on?

Anyone including children and older patients.
However there are contraindications for people with cancer, infections, fractures and the like in the head.

The Benefits

Here is a partial list of conditions that may be treated or improved effectively with EndoNasal correction by ABC:

Breathing disorder, Autism, Depression, Concussion and other head injuries, Ear infection, Headaches, Lymphatic circulation, TMD or TMJ disfunction, Stress and Bruxism, Structural problems, Sinusitis, Sleep apnea, Snoring, Sinus disorders, Vertigo and other balance problems.

I have now had TWO Advanced Biostructural Corrections from Dr. Jerry Porter, DC

I will be continuing with this AND the NCR, which I have another NCR session coming up soon (6th Session) with Hillary Lampers, ND

My husband and I BOTH now know how to do the First Rib Maneuver™ on each other. Next time, we will learn how to do ourselves. It's real easy to test and to do and test again afterrwards to make sure it was done right. Piece of cake. We are SO going to take the Entire ABC course including the Endo Nasal Cranial.

http://www.advbiostructuralcorr.com/old_site/rib_maneuver.htm
http://www.abcmiracles.com/First%20Rib%20Page.htm
http://www.meningealrelease.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=4


Dr. Jerry Porter (Washington) -- After treating a woman for less than a month with Advanced BioStructural Correction™ she went to a health club where they tested her breathing. She had 99% of her Vmax on the spirometer. (Vmax is the maximum volume of air your lungs should be able to take in for your size -- average person has 60% good is considered 80%). The personal trainer was astonished "No one has 99% of their Vmax". Your breathing will improve immediately too.

Okay, so I asked an NCR doctor who is also an ABC doctor about EndoNasal Cranial vs NCR. Here's what he said...


Well Donna you've asked the million dollar question. Years ago Jesse and Dean Howell met. Jesse helped Dean work out the testing points for determining what channel to put the balloon in. Jesse also took Dean's NCR course. A couple of years ago, Jesse took what he learned from Dean and incorporated it into ABC endonasal. They are the same as far as the testing, balloon insertion and inflation and result. The only difference is that NCR prepares the patient with soft tissue body work and ABC prepares the patient with the ABC adjustment.

Now we can be assured that those who want to have it done can also choose from an ABC practitioner, if there are no NCR docs or practitioners in your area.

MessiahMews
23rd January 2014, 08:50
Okay, here is a before and after picture of me. The after is after 6 NCR sessions with Hillary Lampers, ND.

The biggest difference is around my mouth area, where I had palate (maxilla) collapse, and afterwards it has come forward, plus my jawline is more forward.

http://static.dailystrength.org/groupfiles/2/2/9/1/10001922/g_1921247245.png